Time Nick Message 00:22 iqualfragile Vazon: what techniqeu do you use to distribute media to your clients? 00:36 OranginaRouge hello 00:37 OranginaRouge there is no french channel? 00:40 NakedFury I dont think so 00:42 OranginaRouge ok 00:42 OranginaRouge maybe i'll clear enough 00:42 OranginaRouge in fact i just started to play 00:43 OranginaRouge and i don't understand how to use the furnace 00:43 OranginaRouge when i left click, what should i put ? fuel on the left ? if i want glass from sand, how to do so ? 00:44 NakedFury place fuel on the left 00:44 NakedFury then add the blocks you want to smelt on top of it 00:45 NakedFury left side has 2 slots. the top slot is for the block you want to process and the lower slot is for fuel types 00:46 NakedFury all right side slots are for the item just created 00:46 OranginaRouge ok great i'll try 00:46 OranginaRouge thanks 00:46 OranginaRouge ok 00:46 NakedFury no problem 00:46 OranginaRouge then i've seen that we should wait a specific time, depending of things to smelt 00:47 OranginaRouge how to know how much time left? 00:49 NakedFury no idea really. they take longer depending on item to smelt? 00:49 NakedFury truly did not know that then 00:49 NakedFury I do know what you use as Fuel matters since some have more uses than others 00:50 OranginaRouge yes, here we have burning time : http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting 00:51 OranginaRouge ohok 00:52 OranginaRouge oh ok* 00:52 OranginaRouge i just tried, it's ok 00:52 OranginaRouge greeeeaaaaaat ! 00:52 OranginaRouge i like this game ! 00:53 NakedFury its getting better each new release 00:57 OranginaRouge for me it's the first one ! :-) 00:58 OranginaRouge first evening playing it 01:14 * Kacey needs some ideas for xytest... 01:34 * Kacey is out of ideas... 01:34 NakedFury for what? 01:35 Kacey xytest 02:09 NakedFury well what theme do you have for xytest? 02:09 Kacey right now... just decorative stuff 02:09 Kacey and a couple ores 02:09 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest 02:10 NakedFury but what do you plan for it? a sort of fantasy theme for future things or go the RBA tekkit path? 02:10 NakedFury that helps when looking for ideas 02:10 Kacey im thinking just make things that look goodnow, and once i get more experience, make some technical things... 03:34 Kacey *cricket noises* 03:34 Kacey *tumbleweed* 03:35 Inocudom I saw something about RealBadAngel doing a rework of his shaders. 03:37 VanessaE yes 03:37 VanessaE his latest rework works pretty good for me 03:37 VanessaE he's left the sparking/rippling water for later 03:37 VanessaE for now he's working on the base stuff. 03:38 Inocudom Yes, it is important to get the base stuff working first. 03:38 VanessaE waving water, waving grass/plants/leaves, better ighting on light sources, etc. 03:40 Inocudom Out of curiousity, I recently started looking at another open source sandbox game known as Terasology. As it stands, it is still in pre-alpha, but they are attempting multiplayer. 03:41 Inocudom The game does prove that good shaders can work in voxel-based games. 03:42 Inocudom It also proves that mesh nodes are not impossible. 03:44 VanessaE *nod* 03:44 VanessaE RBA gets a lot of ideas from there 03:44 VanessaE shaders-wise 03:44 Inocudom As he should. 03:44 Inocudom The game also has dynamic shadows, but there is no way my computer could run that and Java. 03:46 Inocudom A weakness of the game is that it uses Java, which is somewhat slow and can have security issues. Rarkenn's clone of Minetest will have Java, and a future version of Zelda Classic could. 03:47 Inocudom Colored lightrays seem to be possible in Terasology too, which is hopefull. 03:50 VanessaE maybe 03:50 VanessaE colored light sources are apparently a hard problem. 03:51 Inocudom I learned that PilzAdam plays Terasology sometimes. He even said so in a forum post once. 03:54 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo was on Redcrab's server yesterday. He posted a new Minetest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c553kyFbCg8&feature=share&list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4mHVzA 04:54 RealBadAngel colored lights were already done in the past 04:54 RealBadAngel i even saw video of it 04:54 RealBadAngel but i think that code for it is gone 04:55 VanessaE long gone 05:07 thexyz should try emailing the guy 05:09 VanessaE waste of time. 05:09 VanessaE it's been rather vocally decided that colored light sources will never be added. 05:11 RealBadAngel never say never :P 05:12 VanessaE never. :P 05:34 thexyz ShadowNinja: what's the state of sqlite rollback? 05:35 VanessaE thexyz: I use it, it's insanely fast 05:35 VanessaE but I can't be 100% sure it works correctly. 05:36 thexyz cool beans 05:38 VanessaE on a different note... 05:39 VanessaE today I mourn the death of an old friend - the traditional 3.5" floppy drive. 05:41 VanessaE something cooked the circuitry in my motherboard that handles suspend/resume, and also damaged its SATA ports to some minor degree, forcing me to upgrade the mobo. the new one has no floppy interface. first x86 PC I've ever (re)assembled that didn't have a floppy drive in it. 05:42 * Kacey peeks in 05:44 VanessaE BOO! 05:45 Kacey hi 05:47 * Kacey is thinking of overclocking an xbox 360 for the lulz 05:48 VanessaE oh sure, and get a RRoD that much faster? :P 05:48 Kacey naw. 05:48 Kacey this one is getting JTAG'ed once i get my new one this christmas 05:50 VanessaE gutsy move 05:50 Kacey why do you say that? 05:51 VanessaE because JTAG implies you intend to re-flash the firmware. 05:51 Kacey yeah 05:51 VanessaE not hard to brick the machine, and a 360 isn't exactly cheap 05:52 VanessaE (well, as I define "cheap") 05:52 Kacey if it gets bricked, ooh well. it is as old as a 360 can get 05:55 * Kacey goes back to raging at the cops in gta online 05:57 VanessaE ha 06:00 VanessaE bbl, bedtime 06:15 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1024 06:16 RealBadAngel for those want to try the shaders, it seems to be final version 06:16 RealBadAngel sfan5, are you here? 06:20 sfan5 RealBadAngel: yes 06:20 Kacey nighy all 06:20 Kacey night* 06:23 RealBadAngel sfan5, can you make a build from https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest ? 06:23 RealBadAngel this gonna be propably last test build 06:33 sfan5 sure 06:41 sfan5 RealBadAngel: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-0.4.8-4f246f0-rba-shader-win32.7z 06:48 RealBadAngel sfan5, thx 07:18 VanessaE well that was pointless... as usual. 07:26 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/d8UP08y.png 07:26 hoodedice I was bored. 07:26 hoodedice Don't kill me for liking Metro UI 07:28 thexyz what's this? 07:29 hoodedice NS Newgen 07:32 VanessaE *shudder* 07:33 thexyz are you using xp? 07:40 hoodedice Ah yes 07:40 hoodedice 4 GB is too less of RAM for 7 and 8 is too expensive 07:40 hoodedice (Because it is new) 07:41 hoodedice (See the minetest icon) 07:50 thexyz I thought it runs okay on 4 gb of ram 09:10 VanessaE bbl 09:11 Calinou hi 09:33 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Pins and Needles Day! :-D 09:41 deltib has anyone else noticed re-captchas lately seem to have pictures of people's house number? 09:50 reactor OldCoder: o/ 09:50 thexyz deltib: yes, we're helping the botnet 10:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=119823#p119823 10:50 RealBadAngel told ya that i hate you, right? ;) 10:50 VanessaE lol 10:51 RealBadAngel shaders off before creating inv image 10:51 RealBadAngel i just forgot bout it 10:52 RealBadAngel on the other hand i have no idea why it was workin previously 10:53 RealBadAngel shouldnt from the very start 10:53 VanessaE maybe it never did :) 10:53 VanessaE I only noticed tody 10:53 VanessaE today* 10:53 RealBadAngel me too 10:54 RealBadAngel just after i got build from sfan, added stuff, zipped and uploaded 10:54 reactor RealBadAssGel: how's the science? 10:55 RealBadAngel reactor, do you ask for ban or what? 10:56 RealBadAngel either way gtfo 10:58 VanessaE also, an idea: add a multiplier to the shaders' movement that can be called upon from a node def. 10:59 VanessaE so that e.g. a stiff plant waves less than, say, grass 10:59 RealBadAngel theyre both plantlike 10:59 VanessaE I guess it would need a different shader routine then 10:59 VanessaE nevermind :P 11:00 RealBadAngel on the other hand, lets have basics in 11:00 VanessaE *nod* 11:00 RealBadAngel later on we can fine tune it 11:00 VanessaE fix that distortion-in-the-inventory issue ad push it 11:00 VanessaE and* 11:00 RealBadAngel i will do that later today, after work 11:00 VanessaE ok 11:01 RealBadAngel meanwhile, lets folks test the build 11:01 VanessaE well fix the distortion first 11:01 RealBadAngel i even added there mercury rain as main menu score ;) 11:01 VanessaE it makes it *very* hard to actually test 11:01 RealBadAngel not really 11:02 VanessaE trust me. 11:02 VanessaE it did. 11:02 RealBadAngel just missing visual, or shifted 11:02 VanessaE yup 11:02 RealBadAngel and it only affects inv 11:02 RealBadAngel not the gameplay 11:02 VanessaE which makes it hard to tell items apart when they're shifted all the way off of the inventory slot :) 11:03 RealBadAngel i propably know why was that 11:03 RealBadAngel i changed timer 11:03 RealBadAngel before it started with zero, or close 11:03 VanessaE right 11:03 VanessaE and now it's whatever 11:03 VanessaE so the image will be shifted way over 11:04 RealBadAngel so images were pretty close to what they should be 11:04 RealBadAngel yup 11:04 VanessaE yep, sure enough 11:04 RealBadAngel i will just insert disable shaders before and enable after 11:04 VanessaE I just looked again, they're shifted, but now in a different direction 11:04 VanessaE so it's timer-dependent 11:04 RealBadAngel yeah 11:06 * VanessaE waits for the fix... 11:06 VanessaE ;) 11:08 RealBadAngel not sooner than today's evenin 11:08 VanessaE ok 11:08 VanessaE I gotta get some sleep soon anyway 11:08 VanessaE oh btw: 11:08 RealBadAngel and im goin to work in less than an hour 11:09 VanessaE the new motherboard went in today. works well, but had to back down to 14GB of RAM because of this weird "Sideport" feature the onboard video has. it can suspend properly now, and my SSD actually works fine too. 11:13 VanessaE meanwhile, I'm going back to bed. 11:13 VanessaE third time's the charm.. :-/ 11:13 VanessaE night 11:16 RealBadAngel night 12:08 thexyz sfan5: does tab_playerlist2 work? 12:31 Leoneof why i'm here O_o 12:31 Leoneof :o 12:31 Leoneof :\ 12:31 Leoneof :] 13:18 rubenwardy Hi all 13:18 rubenwardy Started writing this https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7675464 13:18 rubenwardy OS is open survey, and is basically real life maps 13:18 rubenwardy ordinate survey, sorry 13:53 paramat Peacock, hmmmm, dyson cube in progress http://i.imgur.com/zAugq1U.png 13:56 Peacock not bad 13:56 Peacock though i see you're having lighting issues on some of the planes 13:57 paramat yes shadows will be glitchy, we need shadow decay 13:59 paramat shadows will either be glitchy or will completely black out chunks depending on whether you generate upwards or downwards 14:00 Peacock i guess some sort of hourglass figure wouldn't help 14:00 paramat thats why the original vrealm was orientated with south as up, as to be a twilight realm where sun and moon circle on the horizon 14:02 paramat indeed, neither do hills 14:02 Peacock well thats one thing blender does right, you define your light sources yourself in that 14:03 paramat i still like the buggy lightweight MT lighting though 14:05 paramat because i used the same 3D perlin noises for all 4 vrealms here, the biomes and terrain is actually continuous around corners 14:05 paramat just a small test 5x5 chunks :) 14:06 Peacock ive found lighting to be a pain in the ass for the past 3 years lol though admittedly, ive always built very big 14:06 paramat in the corner looking down http://i.imgur.com/NXVgUaO.png 14:08 Peacock i wonder what people would build on those heh, kinda reminds me of vulcan on star trek (09) 14:12 paramat crumbs i must remind people to disable cavegen 8/ 14:13 Peacock yeah when i tried to spawn a life-size DS9 i forgot to turn off the cavegen lol 14:13 Peacock couple of hours of wasted time lol 14:14 Peacock i never could get a full screenshot of that when it was complete, FPS went to 0 long before i could load 2/3's of it 14:28 OldCoder reactor, o/ back. 6:27am here. Headed to office. I will update Pripyat and clone it when you wish. 14:28 OldCoder Other worlds are waiting for interested parties 14:29 reactor Good. 14:56 sfan5 thexyz: no 14:56 thexyz what exactly doesn't work? 14:57 sfan5 http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-11-23#i_3450490 14:59 thexyz hmmm.. 15:13 Megaf Hi all 15:38 Megaf man, there are tons of mods that attempt to index a nil value 15:39 Megaf pyramids and mobs are the latest two I found 15:41 Peacock error logs or it didn't happen 15:41 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/68054 15:41 Peacock which mobs mod? 15:42 Megaf PilzAdam 15:42 Megaf but that may be caused by I change I did in that mod 15:43 Megaf I commented the lines of that fire throwing monster, to disable him 15:43 Megaf because I'm not using the fire mod either 15:43 Peacock so whats on your line 415? 15:43 Peacock can you pastebin the init lua too 15:45 ShadowNinja thexyz: It works well. It gives results in less than half a second on all but the biggest rollback logs (2GB or so), it doesn't hog memory, and the SQLite DB is aproximately a third of the size. (It gets better the bigger the DB is) 15:45 Megaf at line 415 there's something related to fire 15:46 ShadowNinja thexyz: After some review and squashing I think it's ready to merge. 15:46 Peacock so... if minetest.registered_nodes[n].groups.flammable or math.random(1, 100) <= 30 then 15:46 Peacock ? 15:46 Megaf Peacock, lol, I disabled the wrong monster 15:47 Peacock squash is good, artichokes are better 15:48 reactor OldCoder: communist party? 15:48 Megaf PilzAdam told me about the dm monster that uses fire, so I disabled the dirt master 15:48 Megaf in reality, I should have disabled the dungeon master 15:49 Peacock neuter the dungeon master, you'll get a dungeon eunuch 15:50 reactor You could just disable fire. 15:50 OldCoder reactor, Hi 15:50 reactor o/ 15:51 OldCoder reactor, what about communist party? 15:51 reactor 20:28 < OldCoder> Other worlds are waiting for interested parties 15:51 OldCoder Ah! 15:51 OldCoder No; more like "Party Down!" 15:51 Megaf reactor, That's why I did, but when the monster tries to use fire, the server crashes 15:51 OldCoder ^ U.S. Idiom 15:51 reactor ? 15:51 reactor OldCoder: but Pripyat has got none yet, too! 15:51 reactor Megaf: oh! 15:51 OldCoder No parties? 15:51 OldCoder Put cake in there 15:51 OldCoder Is there a Party Mod? 15:52 reactor A cake? 15:52 reactor How about some neurotoxin? 15:52 reactor And incinerators? 15:52 OldCoder Ah well 15:52 OldCoder I suppose Pripyat will not be a Party Town Get Down 15:53 OldCoder Dance With Me Peggy Sue All Night Long 15:53 reactor A party in such a haunted place? 15:53 OldCoder Indeed 15:53 reactor That would be off. 15:53 OldCoder Off is normal sometimes 15:53 OldCoder Hmm 15:53 OldCoder reactor, it will make a fine Halloween World 15:53 reactor john_minetest: EHLO 15:53 reactor OldCoder: when was Halloween? 15:54 OldCoder reactor, It is at the end of October but see the movie "Nightmare Before Christmas" 15:54 OldCoder Christmas can be spooky too 15:54 reactor Okay. 15:55 reactor Well, idk. 15:55 OldCoder http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/nightmare-before-christmas/images/25871934/title/jack-sally-meant-fanart 15:55 Peacock i dont celebrate halloween anymore, one year i went as the naked chef, i got 400 hours of community service :( 15:55 Megaf reactor, Peacock, done, I think I did everything well now 15:55 OldCoder reactor, ^ Jack and Sally will live there 15:55 reactor Megaf: \m/ 15:55 OldCoder john_minetest, Indeed 15:56 OldCoder A bit weak with one plot thread but actually not bad 15:56 reactor OldCoder: I don't know what you mean. 15:56 OldCoder reactor, Jack and Sally are characters from Nightmare Before Christmas 15:56 OldCoder You have created a world that is suitable for them 15:56 OldCoder They are lovers who would be happy to party there 15:56 reactor As you wish. 15:57 reactor I must have seen the film, because I remember something like that. 15:57 reactor A long ago. 15:57 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30003 15:57 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30003 is up (311ms) 15:57 OldCoder http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/246/a/e/jack_and_sally__nightmare_before_christmas_by_blackcatwhitestar-d4vifbh.png 15:58 harrison i liked zero the ghostdog 16:28 reactor OldCoder: so I think it's a good idea. 16:28 reactor But how are you gonna implement it? 16:29 OldCoder reactor, I was half-joking but perhaps in the live copy of the world I could add artwork or skins 16:29 OldCoder skins would work 16:29 reactor mk 16:46 markveidemanis HI 16:51 reactor o/ 16:57 Megaf one more nil value Peacock http://paste.debian.net/68065/ 16:59 Calinou hi 17:03 Megaf Vazon, are you the Vazon I know? Who used to play on my server? 17:03 Vazon VanessaE are you there cuase im needing some asistance 17:03 Vazon Yes i am Megaf :) 17:05 Vazon how are you btw Megaf? 17:06 Megaf Vazon, I'm fine, thanks, And you? My server is doing pretty wel to, I migrated it to London/England 17:06 Megaf Now people have even less lag 17:07 Jordach <3 england 17:07 Vazon well thats good my server was doing great till last night when my linux chrashed and i have lost everything :/ and i need soem help reinstalling it lol 17:07 Vazon some* 17:07 Megaf Vazon, what happened? 17:07 Jordach Vazon, was is a old style disk drive or a new fangled ssd 17:08 Jordach if it's the ssd, there's no hope 17:08 Megaf Linux don't really just crash, unless it's Ubuntu 17:08 Megaf then it will certainly crash 17:09 Megaf I rather use Windows Vista on a Virtual PC virtual machine running on windows ME than use Ubuntu 17:09 Jordach trolololololol 17:09 Vazon well i was going to help MilesDyson on his website so i had to install a few things and then when my computer froze (running like 15 firefox browers, a minetest server and playing on that server cuased it to freeze) so when i tried to restart Ubuntu it wouldnt load i get a error so im going to reinstall it 17:10 Vazon Windows sucks XD and im having t ouse it for the time being 17:10 Megaf Hah, Ubuntu 17:10 Megaf that explains all 17:11 Megaf Vazon, ok, just use a Debian LiveDVD 17:11 Megaf than run fsck on your ubuntu partition 17:11 Jordach >Debian 17:11 harrison ubuntu is a swahili word meaning "i suck" 17:11 Megaf then* 17:11 Jordach >DEBIAN 17:11 Jordach enjoy your stability 17:11 harrison i recommend siduction 17:11 harrison ++sid 17:12 Vazon lol well this will ne a long day failling at installing Debian lol 17:12 Vazon brb 17:12 harrison failling at speling too 17:16 Vazon lol back ....harrison -.- 17:16 harrison i can haz clevvar! 17:18 Vazon i having to deal with all of this crap ...ugh 17:22 Vazon Megaf you mind helping me with this?? 17:22 Megaf Vazon, ok, just use a Debian LiveDVD 17:22 Megaf than run fsck on your ubuntu partition 17:23 Megaf Vazon, Or you formated your PC already? 17:23 Vazon thats what im trying to do lol 17:23 Megaf Vazon, ok, so, you want the link to download the LiveDVD? 17:23 Vazon yes but i dont have a cd to do it on i have to use a flash 17:24 Megaf ok 17:24 Megaf Vazon, insert a usb thumb drive 17:24 Megaf then, with dmesg see what devices it is 17:24 Megaf then, umount it, like umount /dev/sdb* 17:25 Megaf then, curl http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-cdimage/7.2.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.2-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso > /dev/sdb 17:25 Megaf this will download the iso and "burn" it directly to the usb drive 17:25 Megaf IF the drive is /dev/sdb 17:27 Calinou hi Vazon 17:27 Megaf PilzAdam, Hi there 17:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 17:27 Calinou Hah, Ubuntu 17:27 Vazon so put flash drive that click safe eject and burn the iso to rash? 17:27 Calinou that explains all 17:27 Megaf PilzAdam, Im using your mobs mod without fire mod 17:28 Calinou ubuntu hate is justr bad 17:28 Calinou -r 17:28 Vazon hello Calinou :D 17:28 * Megaf glad to find more ubuntu haters here 17:28 Jordach i just use mint and get away from the hate 17:28 Jordach except i use xfce4 17:29 Vazon im still a linux noob i did nt knowhow bad it was :P 17:29 Jordach aww 17:29 Megaf Vazon, or you use the command I gave you 17:29 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/B82D3gR.png 17:29 Megaf or you download the iso first 17:29 Vazon ok 17:29 Megaf and then use like dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb 17:30 Calinou mint is protected from the hate because of ignore 17:30 Calinou ignorance, and because it is "swag" 17:30 Megaf Mint used to be cool 17:30 Megaf and it's an Irish distro 17:30 Calinou made by a french guy who is like "I tried to upgrade and it ate my 15 PPAs! IT SUX" 17:30 thexyz just use ubuntu and https://fixubuntu.com/ 17:31 thexyz it just-fucking-works 17:31 Calinou or xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu 17:31 Calinou they are said to be more stable 17:31 Megaf Calinou, problem with Ubuntu is... Everything 17:31 Calinou too easy to use? 17:31 harrison ubuntu is a swahili word meaning "i suck" 17:31 thexyz no you don't need *buntus 17:31 Megaf Debian 7.2 is as easy to use as Ubuntu 17:32 harrison siduction i tells ya 17:32 thexyz well just install whatever you like 17:32 Megaf and rock solid 17:32 thexyz if you like outdated packages use debian 17:32 thexyz if you like a system which breaks after every update use arch 17:32 Megaf O would say tested and stable packages 17:32 Calinou debian 7.2 is not as easy to use at all 17:32 thexyz if you like to spend hours recompiling libreoffise choose gentoo 17:32 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:32 Megaf Calinou, My grandma uses Debian 7.2 17:32 thexyz if you want a botnet choose ubuntu 17:33 Calinou the install process is clearly longer, the installer doesn't use native resolution, there is NO NON-FREE FIRMWARE by default (except with unofficial ISOs)... 17:33 Megaf so my girlfriend does 17:33 thexyz so many options yet you can't make a choice 17:33 Jordach i can get started with arch, but really cannot be arsed to sort it 17:33 Calinou also they don't support UNetbootin to "burn" the ISO to an USB drive (it's 2013) 17:33 PilzAdam your distro sucks, the one I use is better 17:33 Jordach fuck off kde fanboi 17:33 harrison PilzAdam: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 17:33 thexyz what? you need unetbootin? 17:33 thexyz dd master race right here 17:33 Calinou there is no dd on windows 17:33 Megaf Calinou, whats wrong in using dd to burn the iso? 17:33 Vazon wow i come asking for help and everyoen starts ranting on al lthe linux distros XD 17:34 PilzAdam harrison, what makes you feel like that? 17:34 Megaf Calinou, yes there is man 17:34 thexyz Calinou: there actually is 17:34 thexyz but I get your point 17:34 Calinou not user friendly at all 17:34 thexyz on windows it isn't 17:34 Calinou especially since you need fairly shady windows ports 17:34 thexyz Vazon: just install ubuntu 17:34 harrison Can you tell me more about that. PilzAdam? 17:34 Megaf Calinou, well, let's say idiots can't use dd 17:34 thexyz Vazon: and don't listen to the shit those fanatics say 17:35 PilzAdam harrison, can _you_ tell me more about that? 17:35 thexyz (now I look so smart compared to them!) 17:35 Megaf thexyz, I'm not even a Linux fan 17:35 * harrison winces at the inappropriate language use 17:35 Calinou let's not fight 17:35 Vazon i had Ubuntu and it chrashed and lost everything 17:35 thexyz =( 17:35 Megaf I'm a BeOS/HaikuOS fan 17:35 Calinou it is not due to Ubunt 17:35 Calinou people should stop thinking their is OS the cause and instead THINK properly 17:35 Megaf john_minetest, heh, I did that once 17:35 harrison Vazon, you know that poor sperring as an index to mental demangement 17:35 Calinou this is why dd is unfriendly 17:35 Megaf john_minetest, because after that, I got no system to use 17:36 Vazon what harrison??? 17:36 Megaf Vazon, so, im telling you to use Debian just to fix your Ubuntu 17:36 thexyz john_minetest: why not grub? 17:37 Megaf thexyz, coz GPT, thats why 17:37 thexyz alright 17:37 thexyz *grub2 17:37 Calinou this is also why *buntus are better, you can use them as full OSes 17:37 Calinou you can't with debian 17:37 thexyz and no need to be picky about versions, what I'm talking about is pretty understandable 17:37 thexyz Calinou: what do you mean? 17:38 Vazon the burning whats to go to a disk not the flash 17:38 rubenwardy Windows Bob is the best OS ever! 17:38 Calinou if you need to fix your OS, you can't use a debian install ISO 17:38 Calinou you can with a ubuntu one 17:38 Calinou john_minetest, never had problems with grub here, I always hide it anyway 17:38 thexyz john_minetest: strange, I've never experienced any issue with grub 17:38 rubenwardy I love playing ET: the game on my windows bob computer 17:38 thexyz Calinou: because debian never breaks <3 17:38 Calinou both BIOS/MBR and BIOS/GPT 17:38 Calinou john_minetest, needs another USB drive 17:39 thexyz you should also have sysresccd on you 17:39 thexyz s/also/always/ 17:39 harrison If you are ashamed of your grub Calinou then please do hide it others do not want to have your grub thrust on them. 17:39 thexyz then you did something wrong, it's extremely user friendly 17:39 thexyz harrison: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 17:40 harrison no ur 17:40 thexyz sfan5: do we have a command for this in the bot? 17:40 thexyz like !nobully harrison 17:40 Megaf rubenwardy, heh, windows bob, I had never actually used it 17:40 sfan5 no 17:40 rubenwardy Me neither# 17:40 thexyz john_minetest: and grub2 is just "run grub2-install" 17:41 Vazon btw guys why is Dan Duncombe banned???? im just wonderign cuase i use 1 of his mods 17:41 * harrison wistfully yearns for the01,09 memehopper to appear 17:41 sfan5 Vazon: blanking posts 17:42 Vazon ??? may i ask what that is 17:42 rubenwardy I dont see why they do it. They have nothing to gain, other than annoying everyone. 17:42 thexyz that's when you ragequit 17:42 thexyz and delete everything you've posted on forums 17:42 sfan5 replacing the entire posts content with something like '.' or 'no content' etc. 17:43 thexyz john_minetest: you also piss off mods so I can see the point 17:43 Megaf Im downloading ET Legacy right now 17:43 Vazon o ok i was just wondering 17:43 thexyz john_minetest: moderators 17:43 Megaf lets see how well will it perform on this old lappy 17:43 rubenwardy A more effective way of annoying those who pissed you off is tracking them down and murdering them with a blunt spoon. 17:44 rubenwardy Hi, Jordach 17:44 Vazon O.O ruben 17:44 thexyz rubenwardy: takes too much effort 17:44 thexyz john_minetest: indeed but this still pisses them off (or at least me) 17:45 thexyz TIME TO BUY LTC THEY'RE RISING LIKE SHIT 17:45 Vazon i will jsut wait for VanessaE to help me wit hthis she has helped me with this on more than one occation 17:45 rubenwardy Laptop computer? 17:45 rubenwardy A company? 17:45 thexyz litecoin 17:46 harrison if you had one, john_minetest, maybe you could buy a clue 17:46 thexyz and bitcoin is over 1k$ 17:46 rubenwardy If I had bought a bitcoin a year ago (which I looked at) I would have made £300 17:47 rubenwardy Profit, not turnover 17:47 thexyz and you were laughing at those "retards" spending electricity on useless shit 17:47 harrison yes, and one can observe the vapid stares and empty gawks of the erstwhile doubters of bitcoin 17:47 * harrison wonders if they saw what he did there 17:48 thexyz you've already told us 17:48 harrison empty gawks 17:48 thexyz yes, like the last time 17:48 harrison you try writing fresh material 17:48 Vazon brb guys 17:48 thexyz no offense here 17:48 harrison at least i am quoting myself 17:52 reactor member hopper? 18:00 harrison was it baked in a gas oven? 18:01 reactor Yeah! Bake orange juice! 18:13 reactor harrison: What's the deal with control-[? 18:13 reactor Rather, control-]. 18:13 reactor Isn't it Escape? 18:14 Vazon back 18:14 reactor Uh... wb? 18:17 Vazon wow its quite it now 18:18 Megaf Vazon, so 18:19 Megaf did you manage to boot Debian LiveDVD? 18:19 Vazon no it will not burn to the drive just a cd 18:19 Megaf Vazon, hm, I do that all the time 18:19 Megaf perhaps you missed something 18:19 Vazon it doesnt give me the opion 18:19 Vazon here hold on 18:21 Megaf john_minetest, thats what we are trying to do 18:21 Vazon yes john that is what i am trying to do but the iso will not burn to the usb 18:21 Megaf john_minetest, but perhaps his computer will not allow that 18:21 Megaf ah 18:22 Vazon windows 7 18:24 Megaf Vazon, try this http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable/win32-loader.exe 18:24 Megaf its a debian tool 18:24 Vazon ok what do i do with it lol 18:25 Megaf download that exe and run it 18:25 Vazon running it now 18:25 Vazon begin installer or recover? 18:26 Megaf no idea Vazon, I have never used this 18:26 Megaf Im not a windows user Oo 18:27 Vazon nether am i i hate windows 18:27 Whitemau5 Hello1 18:27 Vazon brb its wanting to reboot 18:27 Vazon White linux chrashed lost everything D: 18:27 Vazon brb 18:27 Whitemau5 OMG 18:28 Whitemau5 linux gaming server?! 18:28 Megaf Whitemau5, yes? 18:29 Whitemau5 oh hey megaf 18:31 Whitemau5 so i was gonna ask since the new update came out: what is new to the game besides the menu format change? 18:33 Megaf anyone whiling to help me test my newest server? Really, just a test, dig some nodes and place some nodes 18:33 Whitemau5 sorry im busy 18:35 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002 18:35 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (553ms) 18:36 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002 18:36 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (115ms) 18:36 Megaf that's a better ping 18:42 Vazon nope didnt work Megaf :/ 18:43 Vazon ok 18:47 Vazon seems to be working 18:49 Vazon its putting alot of files on the flash 18:50 Vazon man this will take a while 18:52 Vazon ok i have my computer to boot with flash already so if i restart will it run? 18:52 Megaf it should run 18:53 Vazon ok 18:53 Megaf and actually I have my OS installed on a usb drive 18:53 Megaf an usb* 18:53 Megaf so I can bring my "computer" with me all the time 19:01 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002 19:01 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (302ms) 19:02 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30000 19:02 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30000 seems to be down 19:02 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001 19:02 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 seems to be down 19:03 dysoco hm I don't like the new website, it's too... white 19:04 Megaf hm 19:05 Megaf at least it looks good on my small screen 19:09 Kacey now we just need a way to switch texture packs in game 19:09 Jordach alright 19:09 Jordach WHO FUCKED WITH THE SITE AGAIN 19:10 Jordach it looked like the windows 8 guy came all over it 19:11 dysoco haha true, or Ice Cream Sandwich 19:12 rubenwardy :P https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7675464 19:12 thexyz Jordach: what happened? 19:12 Jordach i dislike you shitty arch taste in websites 19:13 * sfan5 is confused 19:13 rubenwardy holy crap 19:13 rubenwardy the site is different 19:13 sfan5 the new design is cleaner 19:13 Jordach BULL. SHIT. 19:13 rubenwardy Its ok 19:13 Jordach you make the game appealing to OS X guys; who don't even have SUPPORT. 19:14 dysoco I mean, the previous website looked awesome 19:14 dysoco it had colours and.. life 19:14 sfan5 how is this design more appealing to osx people 19:14 rubenwardy This design lacks personality, but it cleaner 19:14 Jordach sfan5, clean, white, bullshit 19:14 thexyz ooh 19:14 thexyz perhaps you preferred the previous one 19:14 thexyz which had non tiling textures and shit 19:15 thexyz well poor you 19:15 Jordach it tiled for me 19:15 sfan5 can we please stop arguing 19:15 thexyz at least I now can link to minetest.net without facepalming myself 19:15 rubenwardy The old one was very unclean 19:17 Jordach ugh, why do people like the thing that was (almost) made by apple 19:17 thexyz what? 19:17 thexyz white color was made by apple or what? 19:17 Jordach clean design is so fucking simple i can do it in DREAMWEAVER without trying 19:17 Jordach no. even better. NOTEPAD. 19:17 thexyz and what's your point 19:18 thexyz I bet you'd like shit like http://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/ 19:18 thexyz it's not simple and stuff 19:18 sfan5 my eyeeesss.. 19:18 Megaf who made the new site? 19:18 Jordach something with texture 19:18 Jordach something with some colour 19:19 sfan5 sh 19:19 dysoco I mean I can accept this for a blog like http://antirez.com 19:19 dysoco but it's a game, you need images in the homepage 19:19 thexyz anyway I wanted to ask if anyone here has https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1262 lying somewhere 19:20 thexyz Jordach: feel free to live in your web1.0 textured fuckshit with non tiling textures 19:20 thexyz but I'd prefer not to 19:20 Jordach thexyz, ugh, web2.0 refers to social media - gtfo you fuckin sheep 19:21 thexyz no you retard web1.0 refers to whatever I want it to refer to at the moment 19:21 Jordach thexyz, then fuck off, which means use the terms correctly, or go piss on someone elses webdesign 19:22 Megaf O like the style I have chosen to my servers website http://megaf.co.vu/ 19:22 Jordach if you take the principles of arch to heart - then webpages should just have no text, colour or even images, just a $ ~ 19:22 thexyz well your taste in design sucks if you seriously think that what we had was good 19:22 thexyz it was awful 19:22 thexyz starting from that image 19:23 thexyz but your whining won't change anything so chill out 19:23 Jordach you really are catering to people who do appear to have attention span 19:23 Jordach thexyz, oh really 19:24 thexyz to be honest not just yours 19:24 Jordach darkrose did better with http://minetest-classic.com 19:24 thexyz celeron appears to ignore any opinion 19:25 thexyz it looks meh but less meh than what we had so I guess it's okay? 19:30 rubenwardy I dislike mt-classic's design 19:30 rubenwardy blurry images, missmatching colors :P 19:30 rubenwardy Side bars are nice though, and buttons 19:32 Megaf Ok, im disabling nether http://paste.debian.net/68089/ 19:48 rubenwardy Bye all 20:00 Vazon i finally go ubuntu back 20:02 Vazon tiem to find that terminal cod e for the download lol 20:04 Vazon anyone happen to have that on hand? 20:09 Calinou no, I only have that on hoof 20:10 Vazon XD 20:10 ShadowNinja The old site design needed some work, but I liked it a lot better than the plain white one we have now. I also liked the new mockup that BlockMen made. 20:11 Vazon Shadow do you have have link to the minetest download for ubuntu my linux chrashed an im starting fro mnothing lol 20:13 ShadowNinja Vazon: You have to add a PPA. "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable" IIRC. 20:13 ShadowNinja Vazon: Or compile it. 20:13 Vazon aa thanks :D 20:13 Calinou compiling it is better 20:14 Vazon i have no idea how to compile 20:14 Calinou I have a script to do it 20:14 Vazon ok i put that in the terminal wiat next 20:14 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 20:15 Vazon which will run in the terminal Calinou last time i didn that i did both one ran in the terminal other did not 20:15 Calinou don't run both 20:15 Calinou run one of them 20:15 Vazon ok 20:15 Calinou try the non-portable one first? 20:16 Vazon i did 20:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: The stats need a update. 20:17 sfan5 which stats? 20:17 Vazon http://pastebin.com/9wnHpsbZ 20:17 Vazon i got that 20:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 20:18 ShadowNinja Perhaps "~topic add IRC Stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html"? 20:19 sfan5 if you want.. 20:19 sfan5 updated 20:19 ShadowNinja ~topic add IRC Stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 20:19 sfan5 !op 20:19 sfan5 !deop 20:20 ShadowNinja ~topic change -2 s/Logs/logs/ 20:21 dysoco yeah that capitalized L was really harmful 20:22 ShadowNinja dysoco: I know, right! ;-) 20:22 dysoco haha 20:22 dysoco holy crap, I have class in 7 minutes 20:23 sfan5 lol 20:24 Vazon Calin those lines dont work 20:25 Vazon o wait lol 20:28 PilzAdam "Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her." 20:31 Vazon i dont dislike you pilz ..cuase i dont know you that much lol 20:42 harrison I had an dream where i was in 1000 channels conversing all at once like a hybrid of argus and the hydra it was a real epiphany let me tell you 20:42 * ShadowNinja has about 150 buffers... 20:43 Calinou 44 channels here 20:43 PilzAdam 14 in 3 networks here 20:45 ShadowNinja sqlite> SELECT `bufferid` FROM `buffer` ORDER BY `bufferid` DESC LIMIT 1; -> 193 20:46 Vazon .... Calinou the links will not let me type (minetest) in the terminal to start minetest 20:46 ShadowNinja s/buffer/network/ on ^ -> 7 20:46 Calinou Vazon, there is no such thing 20:47 Calinou you can create an alias yourself later, but the script does not do that 20:47 Calinou you have to run the "minetest" binary which is in ~/minetest/bin 20:47 Vazon yes there is before my linux crahsed that is how i started the server and and my game that way 20:48 Calinou you used a packaged Minetest then 20:49 Vazon .... maby VanessaE will now lol 20:49 Calinou will what? 20:50 Vazon will now cuase she is the one who helped me set it up in the first place 20:52 Calinou then you used the PPA 20:53 Calinou Vazon, https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 20:54 Calinou Vazon, what ubuntu version do you use? 20:54 Vazon 12.04 20:55 Calinou deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu precise main 20:55 Calinou Vazon, go to "Preferences > Software Sources" and add that line 20:55 Calinou or, edit /etc/apt/sources.list (as administrator) and put that line at the end of the file 20:56 Vazon ? sorry you lost me bud :/ 20:56 Vazon hold on brb in like 10 20:58 * Calinou facehooves 20:59 harrison catwise, we enjoyed the dawn's concomitant reintermittent disgurgitation 20:59 harrison as if something horrible was being forcibly expelled from a great depth 20:59 harrison in the kitchen 21:00 harrison later my wife stepped in it 21:10 fmcd hi all.. n00b question.. if a server has a mod installed, does the client have to have it also for it to work? 21:10 PilzAdam no 21:10 PilzAdam bye 21:10 fmcd interesting 21:18 Jordach fmcd, the server uploads it to the clients 21:18 VanessaE s/it/its media/ 21:18 Jordach all the clients have to do is stay in the compatible range of the server's networking code 21:18 fmcd if the client already has the mod installed, does the server still upload? 21:19 Jordach yes 21:19 Jordach it might be an older version to the server. or vice versa 21:19 fmcd ok. does the client keep it cached after that for subsequent connects? 21:21 Calinou fmcd, if the client has the mod installed on a local world, it won't be used for cache. 21:21 fmcd ah. thanks 21:21 Calinou however, if the client has already connected, the client caches the media (textures/sounds/models) 21:22 Calinou the cache stays until the user deletes their "cache" directory 21:22 Calinou (they probably won't) 21:27 fmcd good to know 21:31 fmcd is there a server with some mobs on it? i havent seem any so far 21:34 proller Sky 21:34 proller mobf and mobs 21:36 VanessaE my survival, creative, and nostalgia servers have mobs 21:36 VanessaE (mostly on the first) 21:36 proller but doom2 mobs much better ;) 21:40 Vazon VanessaE i need some help.. i need to know how to get it where minetest and minetest servers will run in the terminal i had to restart my linux 21:41 VanessaE Vazon: can you be more specific? 21:41 VanessaE nearly everything can run from a terminal anyway 21:42 Vazon like i open a terminal and i type minetest and it opens the minetest game and if i put in a auto restart code and it will ru na server i nthe terminal i had it set up this way before with the file .minetest but for some reason when i reinstalled my game it all went in to the mientest file 21:55 Vazon can you help me VanessaE? 21:56 VanessaE not really 21:57 VanessaE you just have to run the server with the right arguments and put a & at the end of the line 21:57 VanessaE then close the terminal with ctrl-d or 'exit' 21:57 VanessaE I use a script to keep mine running, which is launched from /etc/rc.local 21:58 Vazon hmm dang i dont want have to be on my server 24/7 21:58 Vazon for it to be up 21:59 VanessaE you don't have to be 21:59 VanessaE you just have to run the background 'minetestserver' process with the right arguments 21:59 VanessaE but your computer has to stay turned on 24/7 if you want the server to be accessible 22:00 Vazon yes i know this i have ran a server for like 5 months now lol 22:12 fmcd anybody running a server on an EC2 instance? 22:12 VanessaE OldCoder does I think 22:12 OldCoder Hi 22:13 OldCoder I used to; but too expensive. I purchased my own complete server. 22:13 OldCoder fmcd, what would you like to know regarding EC2? 22:22 ShadowNinja fmcd: The actual mod (the code) is run only on the server. The media (textures, models, sounds) is downloaded and cached. and the item definitions(there is a tree node with these textures that should render like so...) are re-downloaded every time. 22:23 fmcd i was just wondering if anyone already ran a server on ec2, does it perform well 22:24 fmcd shadowninja: ah ok i got ya.. so the lua scripts control the changing state of the objects within the server and that stuff is sent down to the client at a presentation level 22:25 jojoa1997 hi 22:26 ShadowNinja fmcd: Yes, the server sends packets updating information about nodes and entities. 22:26 ignatenkobrain hi all 22:27 fmcd k.. so you need a bit of power on the server if you have a lot of mobs doing stuff 22:27 ignatenkobrain In minetest I can't use russian language. With minetest --verbose I see "Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 25" and the same. How I can fix this ? 22:29 ShadowNinja fmcd: Yes, mobs don't work terribly well ATM... 22:29 jojoa1997 i suggest that minetest 0.4.9 or 0.5.0 whichever is next should have mob api and biomes via lua 22:31 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: Biomes are WIP, simple_mobs and mobf provide mob APIs. 22:32 jojoa1997 but an api in C++ that are used in lua would be better 22:32 jojoa1997 and i know biomes wip 22:33 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: How so? It will be much smaller in Lua. C++ should only provide the basic functionality needed, which is already done. Entities just need optimization. 23:15 DustinP can i run a server on wi-fi 23:18 pitriss hehe, next time he should search some dictionary for term patience :D 23:23 * ShadowNinja waits for commit report... 23:23 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Rollback fixes and get_node_actions 7433d65d3e 2013-11-27T15:13:06-08:00 http://git.io/WtdSDg 23:23 MinetestBot GIT: alley.marius@gmail.com commited to minetest/minetest: SQLite rollback 1fd9a11e30 2013-11-27T15:13:06-08:00 http://git.io/6nycfw 23:24 ShadowNinja Rollback is 100-1000X faster now. :-) 23:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: Fix the commit order! (Or we can use ShadowBot's GitHub plugin, which shows commits within 5 seconds but requires a webhook entry) 23:46 fmcd is anyone modelling the real world inside a minetest world?