Time Nick Message 00:01 cornernote hi all 00:01 cornernote >> I was flying around in my U.F.O. with a shitload of fuel in my inventory... 00:01 cornernote lovely, great to see its still a child-friendly site 00:12 Pentium44 cornernote, hey! 00:12 Pentium44 long time no see 00:18 cornernote hey Pentium44 00:18 cornernote yeah, i been off doing my own thing for a bit 00:23 VanessaE hey cornernote 00:23 VanessaE welcome back? 00:36 Peacock it's snowing :( 00:39 harrison http://laughingsquid.com/blade-runner-animated-through-a-sequence-of-12597-water-color-paintings-by-artist-anders-ramsell/ 00:39 harrison Peacock: look at how beautiful that is 00:40 harrison & it is very good all the way through 00:41 Peacock http://static1.kefi.co/410/1/Deer_lord-1317.JPEG 00:44 Peacock good lord http://www.failqc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ecope_inserer_jouir_FAIL.jpg 00:44 Peacock worst translation ever 00:44 Peacock enjoy !== jouir... jouir means getting off lol 00:45 harrison quebec wreck! 00:45 Peacock i admit i love coffee, but i dont get off to it lol 00:46 harrison what is wrong with enjoying one's coffee with cream? 00:47 harrison best financial headline ever: 00:47 harrison http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-25/spoiler-alert-godot-never-shows 00:48 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/24/2120231/study-suggests-link-between-dread-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto 00:49 Peacock wouldn't it be funny if bitcoin had been invented by a bunch of drug dealers lol 00:49 harrison well ross ulbricht seems too gormless to invent a cryptocurrency 00:50 harrison the story originates with "two israeli computer scientists" 00:50 harrison perhaps this story has a bearing: 00:50 harrison two jews are walking through a town in the american south 00:51 harrison they pass a baptist church with a sign reading 00:51 harrison atheists! jews! catholics! other heathens! 00:52 harrison convert now to xtianity and we will give you $1000 ! 00:52 harrison they agree that one of them will go in and investigate 00:52 harrison he comes back out a few minutes later 00:52 harrison his friend asks him 00:53 harrison "so -- did you get the money?" 00:53 Peacock hell in the south there was a bank they gave free rifles if you opened an account, nothing surprises me there 00:53 Peacock *that 00:53 harrison "That's all you people think about!" 00:54 Peacock while im usually a fan of inappropriate jokes, they at least have to be funny :P 00:55 harrison that WAS funny 00:55 harrison ok try this one 00:55 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn? 00:55 Peacock ? 00:55 NakedFury funny inappropiate jokes are the best 00:56 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor 00:57 Peacock yeah though theres a difference between funny inappropriate jokes and just blatantly racist/antisemitic/homophobic/misogynistic jokes 00:57 harrison that's what SHE said 00:59 Peacock a good way of telling is knowing whether said group would laught at the joke themselves :P 01:00 Peacock hell though even my korean friends have told me a few jokes about asians i'd never have the balls to say in public lol 01:00 Exio4 pitriss: your desktop is awesome 01:01 harrison you have friends? 01:01 harrison good show 01:01 pitriss Exio4: hehe thanks I love it:D 01:01 Peacock yes, i'm not a full time programmer or geek :P 01:01 harrison touche 01:01 harrison well played sir 01:01 Peacock i also get layed, go out, and have a variety of skills acquired over many jobs lol 01:02 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qliVpGEk0 01:02 Peacock i think anyone who's ADHD is bound to have a wide variety of friends and interests though 01:04 Peacock doing the same things with the same peoples = boring 01:06 harrison you then are an extrovert? 01:06 harrison extroverts suffer boredom, one hears 01:07 Peacock introvert actually :P i just can't suffer boredum and i can't suffer the same people for very long lol 01:07 Peacock most of my friends who are extroverts doing mind going to the same bars with the same set of friends each weekend 01:07 Peacock *dont mind 01:07 harrison i found that if i express my personality too much people don't like it, and if i express it too little i don't like them. 01:08 Peacock i've been told i'm very blunt :P 01:08 Peacock people either hate me for it or love me for it, not much middle ground lol 01:08 harrison did you see the latest film i made? 01:08 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu3swsAqQdw 01:09 harrison tried to appeal to the hardcore club crowd with that one 01:09 Peacock jesus, thats an LSD trip and a half lol 01:10 harrison actually, lsd and ketamine don't act on the same receptors 01:10 harrison lsd: various serotonin receptors incl 5hta2 01:10 harrison ket: nmda receptors 01:11 Peacock haven't touch K in years, never actually found LSD when i was younger 01:11 harrison i myself haven't used k 01:12 harrison yet 01:12 harrison i may have to 01:12 NakedFury I am proud to say I have no idea what K is and no interest in touching it or lsd 01:12 harrison watch the film please it is explanatory 01:12 Peacock ketamine is a horse tranquilizer lol 01:13 harrison Ketamine 01:13 harrison A hydrochloride tranquilizer used in veterinary practice for the sedation of animals and reptiles 01:14 Peacock though humans don't consume it in it's liquid form, its cooked into a powder 01:14 Peacock *its 01:14 harrison people do IM the liquid form Peacock 01:14 harrison you don't get out much i take it 01:14 Peacock thank god i dont like needles then 01:15 Peacock well i left the major city 3 years ago, and there are more bars than clubs here 01:16 Peacock besides kids today are incredibly stupid, doing crack/heroine/meth and krokodil, i dont think i'd be interested in the club scene 01:16 harrison lol well i hardly go out of the apartment myself 01:17 harrison it is not all that safe 01:17 Peacock well with all the crap kids do today you have better chances of getting shot in a club than in the hood 01:17 harrison i used that music to pander to the low instincts of the crowd 01:18 harrison attracting views to the film and popularizing the realtime voxel raytracer 01:19 Peacock besides as i approach my 30's im listening to more jazz and classical and my wife finds me boring for it lol 01:20 Peacock and you wont find many clubs with live dixie or big band lol its mostly that contemporary crap they play in malls and elevators 01:22 Peacock though it's a step up from the salsa they played in malls throughout the 90s lol 01:42 Partmedia anyone know where I can get a hold of PilzAdam? 02:10 marioxcc hi 02:10 VanessaE hi 02:10 marioxcc is it just me or the landrush server is down? 02:10 marioxcc hello VanessaE 02:10 VanessaE it's not showing on the master server list either. 02:10 marioxcc indeed 02:11 marioxcc and the web page shows bogus current user list 02:11 marioxcc for instance, it shows me and i'm not on it 02:11 marioxcc what other server do you recommend? 02:11 VanessaE you could try mine if you want, I think they're okay (I have 5 of them) 02:12 marioxcc ok 02:12 marioxcc i noticed that you made some mods 02:12 marioxcc thumbs up 02:12 VanessaE yes 02:12 VanessaE thanks :) 02:13 marioxcc I'd have used a copyleft license, however 02:13 marioxcc (for the code as well, i mean9 02:13 * VanessaE shrugs 02:13 marioxcc *) 02:13 VanessaE I use whatever works for the situation :) 02:13 marioxcc well, a lot of licenses will do, you still have to pick one from those 02:14 marioxcc for instance, both public domain and GNU GPL are ok 02:15 VanessaE WTFPL is essentially public domain 02:15 marioxcc yes, i know 02:58 ShadowNinja Hmmm, CN has a point. Should that be changed to something like "a bunch of"? Or maybe a different quote? 02:58 Exio4 pitriss: kde3 <3 03:00 Peacock klunky desktop environment 03:01 Exio4 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/26/0014229/driver-arrested-in-ohio-for-secret-car-compartment-full-of-nothing lel 03:01 Peacock just read that five minutes ago lol 03:06 Peacock i just don't bother with owning a car lol between insurance, gas, license fees, etc., at least as a pedestrian i don't have to carry ID 03:15 suntonlain :-) 03:16 VanessaE Exio4: driver arrested for *modifying his car in defiance of state law* 03:16 VanessaE ftfy. 03:16 Peacock well what else would you use hidden compartments for, if not drugs? 03:16 VanessaE additional cargo? 03:17 VanessaE if I ever modded my car, that's precisely what I'd use it for 03:17 Peacock what slashdot also omitted to mention was the cop smelled weed 03:17 VanessaE half the trunk is filled with my subwoofer box. 03:18 VanessaE I always thought slashdot was somewhat above sensationalism :-/ 03:18 Peacock are you kidding me? lol 03:18 VanessaE well they used to be,,. 03:18 suntonlain :-) Good Morning Vanessa E, Good Morning to all 03:18 VanessaE hi 03:19 Peacock even when slashdot talks about bill gate's charitable activities, you get the usual anti-MS vitriol 03:19 VanessaE Peacock: yeah but that's the usual readership noise 03:20 Peacock well i guess it's to be expected with so many unemployed programmers in this economy 03:20 VanessaE heh 03:21 Peacock though in a free software world they'd mostly all be working in call centers as support agents lol 03:22 Peacock dunno, i usually find slashdot comments quite entertaining, but i take them with a grain of salt when it comesto truth and accuracy lol 03:23 VanessaE like one guy there said, at least slashdot mostly moved on from all those stupid memes from old. 03:24 VanessaE (natalie portman, GNAA, goatse, etc) 03:24 Peacock been a while since i saw a reference to those lol 03:24 Peacock but they also changed owners recently if im not mistaken 03:25 Vazon guys is there a porblem with 0.4.8 stable with growth since i updated my server nothing is growing 03:27 VanessaE growing? 03:27 ShadowNinja Vazon: As in trees? Update minetest_game. 03:28 VanessaE depends on what it is that grows 03:29 Vazon the only thing growing is the farming plus mods plants and plant life mod the dirt doesnt grow into dirt_with_grass trees dont grow wheat and cotton dont grow ether 03:30 ShadowNinja Vazon: Update minetest_game. 03:30 Vazon ok where can i find the update? 03:35 ShadowNinja Vazon: Check the downloads page. 03:35 Vazon ok and anyone now why the minetest page is white? 03:36 ShadowNinja Vazon: celeron55 changed the template to a simpler one. 03:38 VanessaE now???? GRRRRR 03:38 * VanessaE throws a 'k' at Vazon 03:39 Vazon why at me :( 03:49 VanessaE "anyone now why" --> "anyone know why" 03:50 Peacock half an hour later :P 03:50 VanessaE :P 03:51 Peacock lol minetest.is_yes(arg) 03:51 Peacock next up minetest.who_is_phone 03:59 Inocudom Cornernote was here today, which is a good thing. 03:59 Peacock he seems to pop in every two weeks 03:59 Inocudom Why did Dan Duncombe leave? 04:00 Peacock he's gone? 04:00 Inocudom Yes, I am afraid so. 04:00 Peacock did he say why? (links) 04:01 Inocudom It is a shame, because he was such a skilled modder. 04:01 Peacock well minetest is pretty good at loosing skilled modders :P 04:02 Peacock i remember a few weeks ago they wanted to implement some stupid rule about forcing people to post mods through forum attachments (why not go full RMS and insist they give up copyrights too) 04:03 Inocudom The only thing I see copyrights being good for is preventing commercial exploitation and preventing theft. 04:04 Peacock at the core, copyright is about preserving the rights of the person creating the content 04:05 Peacock and while open source concepts do make sense for software, mods tend to be more creative than just code 04:07 Peacock all you have to do is compare the number of forks of the engine to the number of forks for each mod and you'll see why contribution works for one but not the other :P 04:07 Inocudom An original creative concept is better forked than modified by somebody else. Every tree needs its trunk. 04:09 Peacock well that's one way of thinking :P if i put alot of time into coming up with something creative or original, id rather others put in as much work themselves if they think they know better 04:09 Inocudom Welcome Kacey. 04:10 Kacey 0.4.8 is released? 04:10 Inocudom Yes, it is. 04:10 Kacey and what is different from 0.4.7? 04:10 Peacock ascii pron 04:10 JackGruff changelog is on wiki, Kacey, google it 04:11 Inocudom New sounds, more bugfixes, better server list, a few other things. 04:11 Kacey JackGruff, im not new here 04:11 Inocudom You certainly should update to it (in fact, I advocate updating to dev builds when possible.) 04:22 Kacey well... that seems broken... 04:22 Peacock lol 04:23 Kacey online mod repository button 04:23 Kacey doesnt seem to want to work 04:24 Kacey ibroke minetest again! 04:24 Kacey space. bar. 04:24 Peacock stick with stable :P 04:24 Kacey i am using stable 04:53 hoodedice ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Failed to create socket" 04:53 hoodedice Proller's dev branch 04:54 hoodedice Anyone? 04:59 OldCoder Hi 04:59 OldCoder Ah 04:59 OldCoder That code is IIRC under heavy development 04:59 Peacock warm apple pie 04:59 OldCoder Hm? 05:00 * OldCoder thinks about food 05:00 Kacey im back 05:01 hoodedice It is 05:02 hoodedice But the author claims to reduce significant server and general lag, and be able to run 50+ mods without any repurcussions 05:02 Peacock Kacey the Gozerian... good evening. As a duly designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension. 05:02 hoodedice XD 05:03 Kacey parallel dimensions dont exist.it is realms, an deach realm is made of 100 planes 05:16 thexyz what happened to the minetest.net main page? it suddenly looks better 05:16 VanessaE celeron55 happened :) 05:17 Kacey oohai VanessaE 05:37 Peacock i must admit, the new minetest.net makes me much less likely to projectile vomit 05:37 Peacock you can use that in the little quotes box if you want 05:38 thexyz sfan5: I remember you having that weird Mac suffix, can you do Minetest builds for os x? 05:53 * VanessaE hides 05:53 RealBadAngel :P 05:53 RealBadAngel hi 05:53 VanessaE hi 05:54 RealBadAngel shaders are rebased, got them? 05:54 VanessaE not yet 05:54 VanessaE url? 05:55 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest 05:56 VanessaE goes in clean. 05:56 VanessaE meanwhile, see #minetest-technic logs 05:56 VanessaE short version: I fixed why pipeworks' tubes weren't autoconnecting to technic devices. 06:00 RealBadAngel which remind me of furnaces issue 06:00 VanessaE well at least the water and lava seem good. 06:01 RealBadAngel and folks complainin bout 1st tier of technic machines 06:01 VanessaE I don't have anything handy to test leaves/plants waving 06:01 RealBadAngel in technic only MV and up should be able to use pipes 06:01 RealBadAngel i mean tubes 06:01 VanessaE yeah 06:02 RealBadAngel so anything below, including regular furnace should be excluded 06:02 VanessaE ok 06:02 RealBadAngel and i saw folks posting fixes to make some stuff work 06:02 RealBadAngel which was already partially working 06:02 VanessaE anyway, see that chan's logs (I assume they exist) and comment there :) 06:03 RealBadAngel ok 06:04 RealBadAngel i wonder how could vbo play together with shaders 06:05 VanessaE it works fine 06:05 VanessaE I use pilz's vbo patch,. 06:05 RealBadAngel got the link? 06:05 VanessaE also, shader glitch: 06:05 VanessaE please don't move the bottom surface of a liquid 06:05 VanessaE keep it aligned to the base of the node 06:06 VanessaE otherwise it z-fights like crazy 06:06 RealBadAngel shit 06:06 RealBadAngel we need water to be redefined 06:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011262013%20-%2001%3a06%3a16%20AM.png 06:06 RealBadAngel all the liquids in fact 06:07 RealBadAngel definition shall be surface + sides and bottom 06:07 VanessaE I think it was decided that liquids shall have no bottom face 06:07 RealBadAngel and shaders should apply to the surface 06:07 VanessaE but the sides should at least not move :) 06:08 RealBadAngel bottom shall be same as sides 06:08 RealBadAngel i just meant full definition 06:08 VanessaE also, flowing liquid shall not flow up and down like the sources do. instead, the highest point only shall move up and down 06:08 VanessaE otherwise you have liquids that sit there spreading backward and then forward if they're poured over land 06:09 RealBadAngel that acutally looks quite nice 06:09 VanessaE it does look nice 06:09 RealBadAngel like sea side 06:09 VanessaE but it moves way too fast with lava 06:09 VanessaE maybe just limit it to water then 06:09 RealBadAngel or apply viscosity 06:09 VanessaE yeah 06:09 VanessaE now about the waving leaves/plants 06:10 VanessaE waving = 1, in the node def? 06:10 RealBadAngel yup 06:10 VanessaE ok 06:10 VanessaE do I add this now or wait? 06:10 RealBadAngel you can add it now 06:10 VanessaE how long until you decide to change it? ;) 06:11 RealBadAngel it definitely wont chage 06:11 VanessaE ok, 06:11 RealBadAngel maybe at some point there will be different possible values 06:11 RealBadAngel but not now 06:11 VanessaE right 06:11 VanessaE ok 06:12 VanessaE how long until this goes to mainstream? 06:12 sfan5 thexyz: I have OS X Maverik in VirtualBox 06:12 VanessaE I don't fancy making those changes only to have to rip them out again 06:12 * Kacey scrolls around to catch up on this conversation 06:14 RealBadAngel im pretty close to finish that part i think 06:15 RealBadAngel whats left: another timer, some small fixes to liquids maybe 06:16 VanessaE ok 06:16 RealBadAngel and i have to ask PilzAdam how could ice wont work for him while its solid node 06:16 VanessaE RealBadAngel: let me check that 06:16 RealBadAngel he posted weird screenshot with blueish box and said thats ice 06:16 VanessaE I saw it 06:17 RealBadAngel ice in mt game is just regular node, no alpha 06:17 RealBadAngel and theres no way to get such effects hes showing 06:17 VanessaE hm 06:17 VanessaE glitch 06:17 VanessaE homedecor frosted glass skylights are no longer translucent. 06:18 RealBadAngel pastebin its definition please 06:18 VanessaE in fact, stained glass nodes are not translucent anymore either. 06:18 VanessaE and I know those haven't been changed in months. 06:18 VanessaE did you take use_texture_alpha into account? 06:19 RealBadAngel alpha_shader can be messed i think 06:19 RealBadAngel but i need def 06:19 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6477553/ 06:19 VanessaE skylight,. 06:19 VanessaE this may be why ice doesn't work for pilz 06:20 * Kacey is considering bring xytest back to life... 06:20 VanessaE ice is opaque for me also. 06:20 RealBadAngel it doesnt use texture alpha in minetest_game 06:20 VanessaE ditto for stained, steel-framed glass e.g. green 06:20 VanessaE oh ok, well maybe his ice is redefined. 06:20 VanessaE anyway, forget that one 06:21 VanessaE clearly use_texture_alpha is not being used :) 06:21 RealBadAngel ok, i will check that out 06:21 VanessaE also please PLEASE fix that z-fighting bug with framed glass 06:21 RealBadAngel after the shaders 06:21 VanessaE ok 06:22 RealBadAngel i wont be messing my own pull for christ sake ;) 06:22 VanessaE ok ok :) 06:22 VanessaE so let's attack the alpha glitch now 06:23 RealBadAngel i will do that togther with 45.01 deg fix for plantlike 06:23 VanessaE make the 45.01 tweak when you fix framed glass 06:23 VanessaE that's a good place for it 06:23 RealBadAngel ^^ninjad 06:23 Kacey what have i missed since i left? 06:23 VanessaE Kacey: everything :) 06:24 Kacey obviously... i come back and "0.4.8 is on the way" 06:24 RealBadAngel you have missed our order, chicken with fries and cold beer please ;) 06:25 VanessaE Kacey: 0.4.8 is out. 06:25 Kacey lol i could give you cold chicken and cold fries with a hot beer. good enough? 06:25 Kacey well, i came back yesterday i think it was... and it wasnt out. and now it is 06:25 RealBadAngel cooked beer is also good, besides we do have winter now, so it fits :) 06:26 Kacey heh 06:26 RealBadAngel but cold fries? noooooo 06:26 VanessaE yup, it's out and already out of date :) 06:26 RealBadAngel oh, cmon just one bugfix ;) 06:26 VanessaE [11-24 17:55] VanessaE, you can say that stable is outdated again 06:27 Kacey hey. cold fries can be good. just not McDonald's fries... 06:27 RealBadAngel but as c55 said it was good for many hours :) 06:28 paramat Peacock, it's possible to scan noise in ungenerated space to locate where an asteroid/comet will be generated. see the search function in uniflat mod :) 06:28 Kacey should i bring xutest back and try to make it work with technic and pipeworks? 06:28 RealBadAngel Kacey, rly? i do have some deep frozen ones in the fridge, wanna some? :) 06:29 Kacey ok. not quite frozen ones, but ones tha thave been cooked and just got cold 06:29 Kacey that have* 06:30 * Kacey will return. for now, sleep 06:31 VanessaE meanwhile, RealBadAngel....light sources work properly (the clamp() thing did its job there() 06:31 VanessaE so just alpha solids don't work right 06:31 RealBadAngel im on it 06:31 VanessaE ok 06:32 VanessaE interestingly, lava doesn't light up the nodes it's on, only the ones next to it 06:33 VanessaE or at least, it seems to darken the nodes it's on. pour some lava on flat ground and watch the edge wave back and forth 06:33 VanessaE you can see a dark, yellowish discoloration on the ground. most noticable with sand 06:33 VanessaE "dark" is the wrong work, it's actually kinda subtle. 06:33 VanessaE word* 06:35 RealBadAngel its a bug or what? 06:35 VanessaE idk 06:35 VanessaE a lighting glitch maybe 06:35 VanessaE it's probably always been there 06:35 RealBadAngel i quess it wasnt visible before 06:35 VanessaE just never noticed it before because the lava didn't move around 06:35 RealBadAngel without waving 06:35 VanessaE yeah 06:36 RealBadAngel i think its common 06:36 VanessaE also: 06:36 VanessaE a water source in hand should be translucent like it is in the world and inventory 06:36 RealBadAngel that surface wasnt supposed to be visible before 06:36 VanessaE right 06:36 VanessaE (I love how the water in-hand waves around :D ) 06:36 RealBadAngel thats actually a glitch 06:37 RealBadAngel i have to turn off shaders before generating inventory and wielded items 06:37 VanessaE the inventory item actually works fine 06:37 VanessaE it's just the item in hand that is opaque 06:38 VanessaE might be related to the solids alpha glitch 06:38 VanessaE as those are opaque in hand also 07:03 * VanessaE wonders if she gave RealBadAngel too much work to do :) 07:04 RealBadAngel hehe, enough for this morning 07:04 RealBadAngel i do have circa 4 spare hours just 07:05 VanessaE bah, this is a 5-minute fix ;) 07:05 VanessaE (if your frame of reference is appropriately set ;) ) 07:11 paramat whoo chilly up here in the floatlands, temp = -32768C 07:12 VanessaE oh my :) 07:12 VanessaE typical Norwegian winter? ;) 07:14 thexyz sfan5: this doesn't answer my question 07:15 RealBadAngel VanessaE, can you check alpha stuff now? 07:15 VanessaE sue 07:15 VanessaE sure 07:16 VanessaE checking... 07:16 RealBadAngel and dont sue me for any possible glitches :P 07:17 VanessaE looks right to me 07:17 VanessaE works in HDX too. 07:17 RealBadAngel i have to fix also another drawtype, framed 07:17 VanessaE no, they're fine 07:17 RealBadAngel it needs also layers displacement 07:17 VanessaE they just have that z-fighting issue w.. 07:17 VanessaE yeah 07:17 VanessaE that. 07:18 VanessaE but wait, there's another glitch with those. 07:18 VanessaE try this 07:18 VanessaE place a couple of framed glass, say green 07:18 VanessaE something you can clearly see the color 07:18 VanessaE now, 07:18 VanessaE place a plant right next to it, say poison ivy, or a flower. 07:18 VanessaE notice that the neighboring colored glass surface disappears. 07:18 VanessaE but the frames stay 07:19 RealBadAngel drawtype bug, it assumes that flower is a solid node 07:19 VanessaE (probably any other node will do, I just chose a plant because that's when I first noticed it) 07:19 RealBadAngel so lists of drawtype fixes keep growing 07:19 RealBadAngel shit ;) 07:20 RealBadAngel sometimes i just hate you, youre too good in finding bugs ;) 07:21 VanessaE lol 07:21 VanessaE I found that bug ages ago 07:21 VanessaE like, months and months ago 07:21 VanessaE I just didn't say nuthin' because I assumed you knew :) 07:22 RealBadAngel ok ok, will be fixed in this planned bunch of drawtype fixes 07:22 VanessaE ok :) 07:22 VanessaE anyway, 07:22 VanessaE the state of the shaders right now is better than git HEAD. 07:22 RealBadAngel if you will find any related to drawtypes write them down, a list maybe 07:22 RealBadAngel im plannin also for that session wirelike drawtype 07:23 VanessaE I expect that list will be, plantlike, nodebox, glasslike, allfaces, allfaces_optional 07:23 VanessaE basically anything you can see through. 07:23 RealBadAngel so write down anything you can find, i will ask for that list after pushin shaders rework 07:24 VanessaE sure 07:24 VanessaE for now, 07:24 VanessaE let's get these damn shaders pushed upstream ASAP. 07:24 VanessaE before they get broken again :P 07:24 RealBadAngel steady, now the timers 07:24 VanessaE right 07:25 RealBadAngel it has to be time_of_day unrelated 07:25 RealBadAngel because of possible altering it, make it flow faster or even stop 07:26 RealBadAngel now i miss minecraft's tick 07:27 RealBadAngel looks like it could be very useful variable in many cases 07:27 VanessaE right 07:28 RealBadAngel but this is shaders unrelated 07:28 RealBadAngel by now i will use system time rather 07:29 RealBadAngel maybe it should be point for another pull 07:30 VanessaE naw 07:30 VanessaE this belongs with your shaders 07:30 VanessaE no one needed it before, and it's related 07:30 VanessaE no point in breaking the two up 07:48 paramat fixed core floatlands turned out bigger than expected :) http://i.imgur.com/8ea8vaU.png 07:51 Jordach Day 2: Stable as 0.4.0 09:14 proller freebsd port updated ! /usr/ports/games/minetest now with rc.d script for auto start server 09:27 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Shopping Reminder Day! :-D 09:29 * Jordach wonders what the difference between indev and v7 is 09:33 proller indev is usable, v7 - not 09:33 Jordach then why isnt indev v7 and v7 v8 09:34 proller because indev is v6++ 09:34 Jordach ;* 09:34 proller and v7 was before 09:34 Jordach proller, v6++ = v7 09:35 proller v6.1 09:35 Jordach you're the one coding C/XX 09:35 Jordach proller, better 09:35 proller v7 is written from scratch 09:44 pitriss hi, please how i can put comment on git repository? 09:44 Jordach only github supports that pitriss 09:44 Jordach you might be thinking of a commit message 09:44 pitriss Jordach: yep i mean that.. 09:45 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478148/ 09:46 Jordach you don't have to explicitly have the add * and remove *, but i use them in case of file name and other file related stuff 09:47 pitriss Jordach: I just wanted to add only proposal of minor change on Celerons new website template code.. So I need clone whole repo to add one small message? 09:47 Jordach pitriss, if there is a pull request on that repo, then make use of it, or state so in -dev 09:50 pitriss Jordach: ok, thanks.. i posted it to dev channel instead of fighting with github page..:) 10:12 kahrl_ I see the bug in Inventory::operator== that PilzAdam was looking for 10:13 kahrl_ if(m_lists[i] != other.m_lists[i]) <-- this line compares pointers (which are always different when different instances of Inventory are compared) 10:14 kahrl_ what is meant is: if(*m_lists[i] != *other.m_lists[i]) 10:27 proller 25km^3 mandelbox now on ipv6 only server 10:27 proller where to get best v7 biode defs ? 10:27 proller biome 10:44 Jordach proller, ask kahrl_ 10:44 Jordach kahrl_, where's the link to the pastebin with biomes 10:44 Jordach (that hmmmm manually made) 10:44 proller maybe in one of hmmmm branches.. 10:53 kahrl_ Jordach: I think I have that link at home 10:56 Exio4 2013-07-06 16:32:36 +hmmmm here are the updated biome and decoration definitions: http://pastebin.com/1kjU5tN7 11:11 proller thanks, this works, but where get treewprob.mts ? 11:12 proller hmmmm http://www.filedropper.com/treewprob - not working 12:00 VanessaE bbl. bedtime. 12:07 iqualfragile VanessaE: i just woke up 12:27 sfan5 thexyz: I don't know.. I could try 12:36 Jordach 2 days and 0.4.8 topic has ~2,600 views 13:05 Jordach hai sfan5 13:08 * Jordach spotted evergreen in forum user list 13:11 Jordach kahrl using webchat 13:11 Jordach gtfo 13:26 Jordach morning hmmmm 13:26 Jordach EvergreenTree, o/ 13:26 EvergreenTree \o 13:27 EvergreenTree wait, cornernote?! 13:27 Jordach he asked to be unbanned 13:32 thexyz sfan5: that'd be awesome 13:53 us^0gb Oh, there's a topic? I missed that. I just noticed the commit. 14:15 harrison Observe the vapid stares and empty gawks of the erstwhile doubters of bitcoin at the current price 14:15 harrison https://www.mtgox.com/ 14:15 harrison see what i did there? 14:18 Jordach now if only i bought bitcoin when it was 50p a btc 14:23 harrison empty gawks / mtgox 14:30 Jordach basically, the people who said bitcoin will flop are now losing money on regular stock markets 14:32 harrison http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/santa-claus-gropes-elf-687432 14:33 harrison Jordach, the important thing is that i the harrison have made another clever pun 14:34 thexyz Jordach: you should buy them now, can't you see they're going up? 14:35 Jordach empty gawks sounds the same as mtgox... 14:35 harrison thus the "pun", if you will 14:47 jojoa1997 hi 14:49 us^0gb Hello! 14:57 proller hmmmm, !!! where get treewprob.mts ? 14:58 Jordach just steal the one from pilzy's pilztest 15:13 BlockMen hi everyone 15:15 Jordach BlockMen, i just attempted to scroll downwards on your mock site 15:16 Jordach also. why are you using the android theme? 15:18 BlockMen Jordach, i took the blue from c55's current design and searched a fitting dark grey 15:18 BlockMen since i dont use android 4 or later i forgot that it uses similar colors :\ 15:19 Jordach i'd suggest a green, because that's what the minetest logo uses primarily 15:20 BlockMen instead the blue? 15:20 Jordach yeah 15:21 Jordach or use the textured logo 15:21 Jordach simpled down a bit 15:23 BlockMen no, green looks good. one sek, i will upload 15:25 BlockMen Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/njgeuf3e9pxxvgl/hp_t3_test_3_3-green.png 15:27 sfan5[Mac] meow 15:30 Jordach better 15:30 Jordach much better 15:37 Jordach feels less droid and more thin 15:37 * Jordach has a bigger screen than BlockMen 15:38 BlockMen i guess many have :P 15:52 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/YhTNaox.png 16:01 Jordach lol 16:04 sfan5 thexyz: minetest does not build on OSX because CMake does weird stuff 16:04 thexyz there was a link to the "working" osx repo 16:04 sfan5 like adding custom scripts that fail to the xcode project 16:04 sfan5 I used that 16:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 16:11 sfan5 hi PilzAdam 16:11 paramat hi 16:13 paramat vertical realm LVM/perlinmap version now at github https://github.com/paramat/vrealm 16:14 sfan5 nice 16:24 PilzAdam I dont like how this guy just releases my code https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7835 16:25 thexyz PilzAdam: that's my mod, can't you read? people know it 16:26 PilzAdam wut? 16:27 thexyz oh that guy was talking about a different mod it seems 16:27 thexyz anyway lol that random 16:28 Megaf why you just dont read the code and see if it really yours? 16:28 thexyz PilzAdam: why do you use minetest.setting_get("remove_items") and tonumber(minetest.setting_get("remove_items")) instead of just tonumber(minetest.setting_get("remove_items"))? 16:28 thexyz Megaf: because that was supposed to be a joke 16:29 PilzAdam eh, maybe because tonumber(nil) fails? 16:29 PilzAdam (why do I use "eh" so often recently?) 16:30 thexyz it doesn't for me 16:30 PilzAdam that code is quite old 16:31 Megaf IMHO that mod is quite useless... I just removed the bones mod 16:31 * BlockMen agrees 16:32 PilzAdam BlockMen, but its like MC! 16:32 BlockMen so?! 16:32 PilzAdam :-p 16:38 Jordach ladies, stop bitching 16:38 * BlockMen thinks Jordach wants join 16:51 reactor Evening. 16:52 Megaf PilzAdam, why does you mobs mod depends on fire mod? 16:53 PilzAdam Megaf, because the DM shoots fireballs 16:53 Megaf PilzAdam, what if theres no fire mod enable? 16:54 PilzAdam then you cant run the mod, since it depends on fire 16:54 PilzAdam if you dont want fire then you should rather use disable_fire=true in minetest.conf 16:56 Peacock whats the difference between disablefire and simply deleting the fire mod? 16:56 PilzAdam Peacock, you cant run Simple Mobs if you delete the fire mod 16:56 PilzAdam disable_fire just removes all fire nodes after some time 16:56 PilzAdam and fire doesnt spread anymore 16:56 Peacock oh ok it doesn't actually disable the fire mod 17:02 Jordach ello Kacey 17:03 Kacey o/ 17:06 Megaf !seem gronx 17:06 Megaf !seen gronx 17:06 MinetestBot Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 22:20:28 UTC on #minetest 17:07 LandMineisBack supppppppppppppp 17:07 LandMineisBack peeps have you missed me?? :D 17:07 PilzAdam helloooo 17:08 LandMineisBack its been months!!! 17:08 LandMineisBack hahah 17:10 LandMineisBack is oldcoder even around anymore 17:10 MinetestBot LandMineisBack: GTFO ASSHAT 17:10 LandMineisBack whaaaaaaa 17:10 MinetestBot LandMineisBack: GTFO ASSHAT 17:11 Peacock damnit jordach, did you forget to pay off the mexican cartels to get rid of him? 17:11 * Jordach slaps Peacock 17:11 LandMineisBack lol 17:11 LandMineisBack yeah like that would happen 17:11 Jordach well, if your channel abuse returns we could have kiwiirc banned from the netowkr 17:11 Jordach network* 17:12 PilzAdam LandMineisBack, hows it going? 17:12 LandMineisBack jordach keep your ideas to yourself 17:12 LandMineisBack no one gives a damm 17:12 LandMineisBack very well pilzadam 17:12 LandMineisBack chillin 17:13 LandMineisBack dealing with RL heeh 17:13 LandMineisBack buts its all good now 17:13 LandMineisBack was deleting some bookmarks and saw the mintest forum lol 17:13 LandMineisBack so decided to come in and see 17:14 PilzAdam I hope you havent deleted the Minetest bookmark 17:14 LandMineisBack nah 17:14 LandMineisBack lol 17:14 PilzAdam we just released a new stable version, 0.4.8 17:14 LandMineisBack just of bunch of youji......i mean google 17:14 LandMineisBack yeah i saw that 17:14 Jordach >minetest 17:14 Jordach >stable 17:14 LandMineisBack so pilz did you ever come to finish that economy game mode? 17:15 PilzAdam the framework is done, but all the prices etc. need to be set https://github.com/PilzAdam/economy 17:15 PilzAdam and Im not really interested in doing that 17:16 PilzAdam Im mainly working on this game now: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 17:16 LandMineisBack nice 17:16 Jordach what. the. fuck. (for some reason formspecs are really slow at actually updating and cause me to move items that i didn't wish to move) 17:17 LandMineisBack whats the difference between that and the orginal mt? 17:17 PilzAdam you mean pilztest? 17:17 LandMineisBack yeah 17:18 PilzAdam it focuses on 2 things: 1) voxels – everything is a full cube 2) survival gameplay – there is hunger (different from MCs, though), mobs and players have a very limited inventory and have to use a backpack 17:19 PilzAdam also getting resources is harder than in mt_game 17:19 PilzAdam its generally a different game, its _not_ based on minetest_game, unlike most other games 17:19 LandMineisBack nice 17:20 LandMineisBack i have conisdered opening anther server but oldcoder isnt around ehehe 17:20 LandMineisBack he is the one that helps me set them up 17:21 PilzAdam I saw him quite active recently 17:23 LandMineisBack yeah? 17:23 LandMineisBack he isnt even in his own irc 17:23 LandMineisBack channel 17:23 LandMineisBack but ill try to see his website hehehe 17:24 PilzAdam he is usually more active at weekends 17:25 LandMineisBack i see 17:25 LandMineisBack well ttyl 17:25 LandMineisBack gotta go eat and do other stuff 17:28 Kacey ishe really gone? 17:29 Kacey is he* 17:30 NekoGloop nah 17:30 Kacey oohaineko 17:31 Kacey SPACE. BAR. 17:31 Peacock space cocktails 17:31 Kacey heh 17:32 paramat Peacock, cornerworld http://i.imgur.com/8nkcJqn.png working towards dyson cube :) 17:32 Peacock nice, doesn't get much more voxely than a cube world 17:33 Kacey paramat, you are either awesome or just plain crazy. maybe both 17:33 Kacey can you walk on the "walls" 17:33 proller paramat, liquid_finite=1 !!!!!! ;) 17:34 paramat Kacey, no gravity and camera direction is fixed 17:35 Kacey aah. someone needs to fix that. that would make fro an interesting game 17:35 Kacey for* 17:37 paramat perhaps c55 will go on to write a more universal voxel engine ... 17:38 paramat cornerworld is done with 2 independant vrealm mods, i let them fight it out in the corner 17:44 paramat Peacock, vrealm LVM is at github 17:44 Peacock i cant imagine trying to use the 6d toilet in the upside-down plane, that would take some marksmanship 17:45 * Jordach gives Peacock a laser sight and scooe 17:45 Jordach scope 17:45 Jordach now try 17:47 Peacock where do i put the laser scope? 17:47 Peacock *laser sight 17:51 paramat lol 17:53 Kacey it would be awesome if each plane had a different "theme" and it were to spread slowly 17:55 paramat yeah 6 different mapgens nice 17:58 paramat Peacock, a video recommendation, beautiful CGI O'Neil colony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiO8CgGiWPM 17:59 Peacock dyson blimp? 17:59 Peacock surface renderings remind me of cities XL 18:00 paramat large screenshots here http://ebruneton.free.fr/rama3/rama.html 18:01 Peacock you gotta wonder if such a thing could ever be built with the resources we have 18:07 paramat found a small MC dyson cube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwBTJA_F5vk 18:07 BlockMen bye everyone 18:12 thexyz why should I call my Linux system GNU/Linux when there's a lot of software written by non-GNU people? 18:19 matsetes Hi! 18:20 matsetes Is it normal that in the dev version the trees does not spawn with leafs? 18:21 Jordach mhm 18:21 matsetes I play an old world with some mods 18:22 matsetes When I switched to the dev version (two weeks ago) the new trees spawn without leafs 18:22 PilzAdam matsetes, your version is outdated 18:22 PilzAdam if you switch to a dev version you have to update at least once a week 18:24 matsetes But this problem is solved? 18:25 matsetes In new versions I mean 18:25 PilzAdam yes 18:25 matsetes Ok, thanks and sorry =) 18:25 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/9fdbc1f4072dcf2296af9bcce6ec92bfa75972ca 18:26 matsetes Perfect, PilzAdam =) 18:34 Jordach nom nom nom, sausage and bacon pizza with stuffed crust 18:36 * Kacey steals Jordach's pizza 18:36 Jordach already eaten it 18:37 Kacey ... 18:38 * Kacey goes back to playing cookie clicker 18:41 Jordach ...candy box 2? 18:42 sfan5 meow 18:42 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Jordach 18:42 Jordach i did find a massive cave system hidden under the spawn of vanessa's survival world 18:43 Jordach and these were hand dug 18:50 Calinou hi 18:50 Calinou I'm playing http://www.etlegacy.com/ 18:59 matsetes PilzAdam, Is it normal that now trees drop less saplings? 19:00 Megaf Calinou, I used to play a lot that game 19:01 Megaf I would play it for 3 days no stop 19:01 Megaf only to have water and to pee 19:01 matsetes Someone can answer me? 19:01 Calinou heh 19:01 Calinou hi matsetes 19:01 Calinou be patient 19:01 matsetes Calinou, Yes, sorry =) 19:02 matsetes Why be patient? 19:05 Calinou not everyone is here on IRC 19:05 Calinou they may be idle 19:05 Calinou if you leave you can't get an answer 19:05 matsetes Oh, I know 19:06 matsetes I wrote to Pilz cause I talked to him some minutes ago 19:06 matsetes But it's a question that can be answered also by other people 19:07 EvergreenTree I don't think the chances have changed any, I'd have to look at the code 19:08 matsetes I think now also leaves far from trees can drop saplings 19:11 EvergreenTree Any leaves can drop saplings 19:11 EvergreenTree on trees or not 19:12 matsetes Before today I've never seen leaves dropping them away from wood 19:15 EvergreenTree They do 19:15 Jordach matsetes, you've been using a very old version 19:16 matsetes When that changed? 19:16 Jordach minetest engine, minetest_game 19:16 matsetes Perhaps I haven't noticed that lately 19:16 EvergreenTree Which version are you using? 19:16 matsetes Now the latest dev 19:16 EvergreenTree ah 19:16 EvergreenTree Which version were you using 19:17 matsetes I used to change it once a month or likely 19:18 matsetes But perhaps I haven't noticed that change =) 19:20 matsetes Well, thanks for all, see you, bye 19:29 PilzAdam ... aaand hes gone 19:29 reactor ? 19:29 * PilzAdam is talking about matsetes 19:29 reactor 01:02 < matsetes> Why be patient? 19:29 reactor Why not be the doctor instead? 19:29 reactor Right, ma 19:29 reactor Oh, he left. 19:30 reactor I'm so fucking slow! 19:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on reactor's head 19:31 Jordach oh look, my braincells have returned 19:31 sfan5 TIL kittens on other peoples head return your braincells 19:31 reactor I am allergic to vertebrates. Keep it away from me. 19:32 * reactor puts the kitten in a jar and starts looking for alcohol. 19:32 reactor Let's preserve it? 19:33 sfan5 no 19:33 sfan5 it's innocent 19:33 * sfan5 grabs the kitten from the jar and puts it on Jordach's braincells 19:33 * reactor starts to fill the room with neurotoxin. 19:34 Kacey why preserve it when we have a KITTEN GENERATOR!!? 19:34 reactor Stop it! I was going to use the kitten for experiments. 19:34 sfan5 noo 19:34 reactor I wanted to test Schroedinger's cat paradox! 19:34 Peacock save the animals, eat a vegan 19:34 reactor Gimme! 19:35 * sfan5 activates the black kitten generator 19:35 reactor Good. 19:35 sfan5 I'm bored, I want to watch animes.. 19:36 reactor The bad news is reality does not exist, the good news is, we now have our own cat graveyard. 19:36 thexyz sfan5: that's a problem 19:36 thexyz sfan5: watch jinrui 19:37 thexyz AOTS 19:37 sfan5 >bread with face 19:37 sfan5 lol 19:37 Peacock Hall & Oats 19:37 thexyz sfan5: that's not the worst thing about this bread 19:38 sfan5 plol 19:38 thexyz sfan5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42u4ytkzAWw 19:38 harrison berndt dat brot 19:38 harrison das brot 19:38 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_das_Brot 19:39 reactor The Policeman's Beard is Half-Constructed. 19:39 sfan5 D: D: D: D: 19:40 thexyz sfan5: it's good you should watch it 19:40 sfan5 maybe later 19:40 thexyz why are you saying you want to watch animes then? if you actually don't want to? 19:40 sfan5 *puts on plan to watch list on MAL* 19:41 thexyz I hoped everyone in this channel expresses their own genuine opinion 19:41 Exio4 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/26/1841244/sex-offender-gets-new-hearing-after-hearing-officer-rants-against-arial-font 19:41 thexyz sfan5: I hope you at least use Taiga 19:41 sfan5 taiga, whats that? 19:41 reactor I hate varibale-spaced fonts. 19:41 reactor s/bal/abl/ 19:42 thexyz sfan5: https://code.google.com/p/taiga/ 19:42 thexyz it's more for Windows though; there it can do more fun stuff 19:42 sfan5 why didn't you tell me before 19:42 thexyz but even in wine it's better than visiting the website 19:42 thexyz sfan5: because you watch shit-tier shows 19:43 thexyz also >being this new 19:43 sfan5 :-( 19:43 reactor !title 19:43 MinetestBot reactor: taiga - A lightweight client for MyAnimeList - Google Project Hosting 19:43 thexyz it's okay, you'll learn over time 19:44 reactor They say, you have to conquer their minds first. 19:44 reactor ^ Food for thought, considering Japanese culture. 19:46 thexyz your hate on animus is quite amusing 19:46 thexyz I should sell all my 0.1 BTC and invest into Litecoin 19:47 thexyz seriously though, I don't understand the point of those alternative currencies 19:48 harrison well, you aren't supposed to understand the plan ... 19:48 harrison until it is too late! 19:48 harrison mwahahaha 19:48 thexyz Litecoin even advertises itself as a currency which "can be efficiently mined with consumer-grade hardware" 19:48 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/24/2120231/study-suggests-link-between-dread-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto 19:49 sfan5 they only created litecoin to get much money themselfs (assuming litecoin is used everywhere) 19:49 thexyz Peacock: bullshit 19:50 thexyz Peacock: even comments in this post say it's bullshit 19:51 thexyz sfan5: so why were you complaining again? 19:51 Peacock dunno, everytime i hear about btc, its always some scam, or drug bust, or disappeared/hacked exchange XD 19:51 thexyz Peacock: because that 19:51 thexyz fug 19:52 thexyz Peacock: because journalism 19:52 thexyz people will read about those things 19:53 Peacock thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked 19:53 thexyz no one is going to read about >xyz bought a pizza with bitcoins 19:53 thexyz Peacock: what? 19:53 Peacock thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked 19:53 thexyz nice can you post it one more time please? 19:54 harrison btc can be useful... certain items are purchasable more ...er... conveniently with btc 19:54 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/12/1553216/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-vanishes-taking-25m-of-coins-with-it 19:55 harrison that isn't the main advantage, of course, the main advantage is moral uprightness andd, and, probity! and clean living...\ 19:55 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/24/0615214/sec-alleges-bitcoin-savings-trust-is-a-ponzi-scheme 19:55 Peacock etc.. 19:55 Exio4 [16:53:10] thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked 19:56 Exio4 Peacock: look at 2001 in argentina 19:56 sfan5 thexyz: I'm not trying to complain 19:56 Peacock thats different, your country defaulted 19:56 thexyz Peacock: perhaps you should stop reading that much slashdot? 19:57 thexyz how much monies is lost every day because of fraud? 19:57 Peacock well you always ask for links anyhow so i thought id just post them upfront instead of arguing ad nauseam 19:58 thexyz the second link is just plain hilarious 19:58 Peacock well i dont know how bad fraud is in other parts of the world, here banks are safer than digital currencies 19:59 thexyz yeees 19:59 thexyz to lost money all you need is cc number, 3 digit code and expiry date 20:00 thexyz and then have fun chargebacking 20:00 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn? 20:02 Peacock 2 more before i hit the sack 20:02 Peacock http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/03/09/0234252/dns-hijack-leads-to-bitcoin-heist 20:02 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/27/156231/bitcoin-exchange-bitfloor-says-it-will-replace-stolen-coins 20:02 Peacock nite folks 20:07 thexyz meh 20:07 thexyz nicely done cherry picking my replies 20:07 thexyz and then leaving 20:08 thexyz "i'll post those two links and leave immediately to look cool" 20:08 thexyz "i don't care about your opinion or anything" 20:09 Exio4 bitcoin has downsides and goodsides like any other currency :P 20:10 Exio4 (is goodsides even a word) 20:10 sfan5 you probably want s/goodsides/upsides/ 20:10 Exio4 there 20:10 Exio4 badsides too 20:13 thexyz yes but some people think it only has badsides and worsesides and even worstsides 20:15 Exio4 people thinks everything 20:17 thexyz maybe I just don't understand some of them 20:18 Exio4 I don't understand him either 20:27 thexyz PilzAdam: wait, launchpad builds don't support gettext? can you fix that? 20:28 PilzAdam no, I dont know how 20:28 thexyz aww 20:29 reactor Markov chain? 20:34 thexyz markov chain what? 20:39 thexyz sfan5: what's your mal profile? 20:39 thexyz OKAY THAT WAS OBVIOUS 20:40 thexyz > mirai nikki 20:40 thexyz > 10 20:41 NekoGloop sup nerds 20:42 thexyz why would you rate this with 10 20:42 thexyz I mean, it wasn't that bad but 20:43 thexyz random random shit happening, random random end 20:43 thexyz put more different random stuff 20:43 thexyz but that's okay 20:44 Jordach thexyz, if anime == "yes" then math.random(1,1000000) end 20:45 thexyz Jordach: this doesn't do anything useful 20:45 Jordach you said that anime is random 20:45 thexyz it should assign a variable or something 20:45 thexyz not all anime is random 20:49 thexyz sfan5: we'll start improving your list 20:49 thexyz boku no pico joke is not fun anymore so start with Koe de Oshigoto! 21:04 TheZenKitteh im trying to setup a server and having all sorts of issues. been absent from minetest for awhile. I compiled the minetest server from git, got the game data from git and when run there's only one error "ERROR[main]: BiomeDefManager::resolveNodeNames: node 'mapgen_water_source' not defined". when connecting, every block is unknown. there doesn't seem to be any textures sent by the server to the client. also the client has some err 21:05 sfan5 which subgame do you use? 21:05 VanessaE ...also the client has some erro....? 21:05 TheZenKitteh subgame? 21:06 TheZenKitteh VanessaE: the client errors are in first message at end 21:07 TheZenKitteh it seems minetest has changed a bit 21:07 * TheZenKitteh getting the config file for show 21:10 VanessaE indeed it has changed, but we need the error messages from debug.txt first. :) 21:10 VanessaE that first one sounds like you're using mapgen v7 or something 21:10 VanessaE a "subgame" or just "game" is e.g. minimal, minetest_game or whatever you're using 21:10 TheZenKitteh all errors are in first message 21:11 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cYkH6jXm 21:11 TheZenKitteh that is the config 21:11 TheZenKitteh with sensitive info removed of course 21:11 TheZenKitteh lol 21:11 VanessaE pastebin your debug.txt 21:11 VanessaE just the last cycle of it of course 21:11 VanessaE from the last -------- Separator --------- to the end 21:12 TheZenKitteh seems I did miss an error 21:12 TheZenKitteh lol 21:12 TheZenKitteh pasting 21:13 PilzAdam bye 21:13 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=skseeFeB 21:13 TheZenKitteh first is server 21:13 TheZenKitteh second is client 21:14 VanessaE ok this one's obvious 21:14 VanessaE you didn't install properly so none of your default textures got installed 21:14 VanessaE in fact 21:14 VanessaE it looks like the whole of minetest_game 21:15 VanessaE you need to make sure your copy of minetest_game is properly-named, stored in the right location, and is not in fact missing its files 21:15 Vazon VanessaE ok in the minetest game the farming hoe when used crashes my server and gives me this code may you be so kind to explain whats wrong :) http://pastebin.com/670u5p8N 21:15 VanessaE Vazon: update your minetest 21:15 VanessaE and minetest_game 21:15 VanessaE and farming_plus 21:15 TheZenKitteh hmm 21:15 VanessaE that error is the result of a change in the farming API 21:15 Vazon i have VanessaE all but the farming plus 21:15 * TheZenKitteh checking to be sure the git clone actually worked 21:16 VanessaE Vazon: it can't be up-to-date if you get that error :) 21:16 Vazon the minetestgame i got from the 0.4.8 link i was given last night .... 21:16 VanessaE TheZenKitteh:what exactly did you clone, and to wherre? 21:16 VanessaE where* 21:16 TheZenKitteh yes it seems the clone didn't complete properly, fixing and re-testing 21:17 VanessaE Vazon: make sure you don't have an extraneous copy sitting somewhere. 21:17 Vazon hmmm let me see but i dont think so 21:17 TheZenKitteh git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git into games/ 21:17 VanessaE TheZenKitteh: no 21:17 VanessaE minetest/minetest_game 21:18 VanessaE celeron55/minetest_game is not current 21:18 TheZenKitteh would explain it 21:18 TheZenKitteh lol 21:18 VanessaE ditto for the engine 21:18 VanessaE always clone from git://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git 21:18 VanessaE (and minetest.git) 21:18 TheZenKitteh dang. means I have to recompile client and server 21:18 TheZenKitteh well I have been absent, last time I was on, the above were correct 21:18 VanessaE yeah, don't use c55's fork, his isn't actually kept up-to-date much of the time :) 21:19 VanessaE you're right, they were 21:19 VanessaE the project has since become slightly more de-centralized 21:20 TheZenKitteh thanks for the info, re-fetching and compiling 21:20 Vazon ooo ok well can i have right link to it plz 21:21 VanessaE git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git and git://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git 21:21 VanessaE well, https:// maybe 21:21 VanessaE you get the point 21:21 Vazon yes 21:21 TheZenKitteh only thing I don't like about compiling is how long it takes lol 21:21 VanessaE TheZenKitteh: a necessary evil :) 21:22 TheZenKitteh I have a script to automate it but it was using the previous git links. now using the ones you suggested 21:22 TheZenKitteh I made it so all I have to do to get a new version is just launch script and wait 21:22 * VanessaE eyeballs her new motherboard and considers tearing the PC apart to install it... 21:23 * TheZenKitteh still using same computer they were using 3 years ago 21:23 TheZenKitteh I believe I have long gotten my $10 out of it lol 21:24 VanessaE heh 21:24 * Kacey is using an asus laptop with windows 8 21:24 TheZenKitteh ewwww 21:24 TheZenKitteh windows 8 21:24 * TheZenKitteh hasn't touched windows in 3 years either 21:24 Kacey it sucks at first, but you kinda get used to it 21:25 VanessaE in my case the upgrade is because of some failing hardware. 21:25 VanessaE oh well, may as well get this done. bbl 21:25 TheZenKitteh ttyl VanessaE :) 21:25 TheZenKitteh Kacey: that can be said for many unpleasant things 21:26 TheZenKitteh sucks at first, but you kinda get used to it 21:36 Kacey should i try to bring xytest back? 21:37 * TheZenKitteh has no idea what that is Kacey 21:37 TheZenKitteh oh and while I'm here, anyone know how to make minetest client use a second soundcard on linux? 21:37 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest 21:38 TheZenKitteh I use usb headsets since I have no external speakers and my normal headphones don't have a long enough cord. 21:39 TheZenKitteh as for the mod Kacey, if you had fun doing it, go for it. 21:44 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn? 21:50 TheZenKitteh harrison: have you been smoking meth? 21:50 TheZenKitteh just kidding lol 21:51 Kacey i have big plans for xytest... i just dont have the coding experience to make them happen 21:51 harrison no it is a riddle are you familiar with the form? 21:51 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn? 21:52 harrison now you ask me "i don't know, when is ...." 21:52 TheZenKitteh nope no idea what you are talking about. however your question reminds me of the snakes coiled around the rod 21:52 * Kacey ssees a weed joke coming 21:52 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor 21:53 harrison i would never joke about weed, such is my distaste 21:53 harrison alexander shulgin himself disliked marijuana 21:54 harrison get it? vase - o - constrictor ? 21:54 harrison see what i did there? 21:55 TheZenKitteh anyone know how to brighten up minetest? its so dark in game compared to minecraft. I can barely see anything even with nearby torches 21:55 harrison ask your gamma 21:55 TheZenKitteh my monitor is as bright as it goes 21:56 harrison what do you call a large african or asian lizard that believes that healing comes through faith alone? 21:56 TheZenKitteh in minecraft there is no lighting issues and can be adjusted. im wondering if such is available in minetest.. a way to make it brighter. 21:56 harrison christian science monitor 21:57 harrison see what i did there? 21:58 Calinou_ TheZenKitteh, only way is to edit source code and recompile 21:58 Calinou_ or increase monitor brightness 21:58 Calinou_ or increase brightness in graphic driver control panel 21:58 TheZenKitteh I believe that should be considered a bug. 21:58 TheZenKitteh its almost too dark to play 22:01 harrison nor would i take the meth of which you speak TheZenKitteh 22:02 harrison unless it was medically necessary 22:02 TheZenKitteh ill smoke weed, maybe some light opiates. all others, nope. 22:03 TheZenKitteh for opiates one must realize they can be highly addictive 22:03 harrison well, peoples receptor neurochemistry varies ... 22:03 harrison so weed may be good for you 22:03 harrison for me it is dysphoric 22:04 harrison opiates for pain is a losing game, one i choose not to play 22:04 harrison ketamine is interesting, i hear 22:04 TheZenKitteh I've never done anything other than caffeine, alcohol, weed, light opiates 22:05 TheZenKitteh oh and nicotine 22:05 harrison coffee is positively healthy 22:05 TheZenKitteh of those, im only addicted to the nicotine 22:07 Calinou_ smoking kills 22:08 TheZenKitteh all sorts of stuff kills 22:08 TheZenKitteh lol 22:08 TheZenKitteh smoking just kills you faster than not smoking (could be debated but won't) 22:12 TheZenKitteh seems excessive to have to place a torch every 3 blocks just to see somewhat 22:12 TheZenKitteh lol 22:13 harrison i can't remember if i posted this link before or not: 22:13 harrison http://www.popsci.com/article/science/how-scientists-are-learning-shape-our-memory?dom=PSC&loc=slider&lnk=1&con=spotless-minds 22:20 Vazon ...grrr why do my players keep log in invisable 22:21 Vazon does anyone have any idea? 22:23 TheZenKitteh if its same issue as I seen long ago, reset their coords to 0,0,0 (worlds/players/playername) 22:23 TheZenKitteh at least that what fixed it back then 22:24 Vazon ok 22:25 Vazon nope 22:32 TheZenKitteh hmm 22:33 TheZenKitteh no wonder no mods loaded 22:33 TheZenKitteh have to enable them manually lol 22:36 harrison mods vs rockers 22:36 harrison quadrophenia 22:36 TheZenKitteh so much has changed 22:36 TheZenKitteh yet seems there still exists invisible players, not enough brightness and who knows what else lol 22:37 TheZenKitteh personally I'd suggest ability to adjust brightness and choose sound card from within a menu in the game 22:37 TheZenKitteh would be two features that would be great imo 22:41 TheZenKitteh lol also an issue that I still experience it seems, no idea the cause. last time I was on and now, if minetest crashes on my computer and I re-launch it, it freezes my computer. only solution I've found is to log out of my session and log back in, so brb 22:46 TheZenKitteh happened again, this time got error and I suspect it's a low memory error or something 22:47 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=k5vWhnKx 22:49 NakedFury was 0.4.8 released? 22:50 fairiestoy http://minetest.net/download <<< says yes 22:51 NakedFury ohh yeah the fresh intoxicating smell of new 23:14 Vazon ....can anyone help me in makeing my players visable 23:45 Vazon .....still need help with invisable players :/ 23:49 iqualfragile Vazon: which version of minetest are you running? 23:49 Vazon 0.4.8 23:49 iqualfragile (please repost the description of your problem, i was not online at that point of time) 23:50 Vazon when some of my server players log in they are invisable no names or anything just when you walk by then you can see the box where the body should be 23:51 Vazon btw its great that i have got to meat you RealBadAngel :D