Time Nick Message 00:09 Peacock morning! 00:14 Peacock lively as ever :P 00:14 * Peacock spikes the punch 00:23 Peacock family values "Police arrest son in murder of New Brunswick businessman Richard Oland" 01:10 Megaf ShadowNinja, what channel is that? #minetest@InchraNet 01:10 Megaf is it official? 01:10 us{0gb Not official, no, but it has several Minetest servers linked to it. 01:10 us{0gb So chatting in that channel reaches people in-game. 01:11 VanessaE in those servers so-connected, yeah 01:32 Megaf kaeza, hm, the mod didnt work here 01:32 Megaf server wont startup 01:32 kaeza which OS? 01:32 Megaf Linux 01:32 Megaf but i didnt follow the instructions 01:32 Megaf I did cmake . and then make 01:33 kaeza can you pastebin the error? 01:33 Megaf then copied the irc folder to the mods folder 01:33 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65550/ 01:34 kaeza huh? O_o 01:34 kaeza that is weird 01:34 Megaf $ ls ../games/minetest_game/mods/irc/ 01:34 Megaf API.txt botcmds.lua callback.lua chatcmds.lua config.lua ftp.lua hooks.lua http.lua init.lua irc libluasocket.so LICENSE.txt ltn12.lua messages.lua mime.lua player_part.lua README.txt smtp.lua socket.lua tp.lua url.lua util.lua 01:35 kaeza oh wait... 01:36 kaeza cd minetest-irc ; git submodule update --init 01:36 kaeza then make and copy again 01:36 Megaf so we really need that gitty thing? 01:36 Menche Yes. 01:36 Megaf well, gonna leave that for tomorrow then 01:36 Megaf ran out of time 01:37 Megaf good night folks, thanks for everything 01:37 kaeza if not you'll have to download the extra stuff separately 01:37 kaeza aww :( 01:37 kaeza good night :) 01:37 Peacock weird, i just got a wrong password error eventhough i didn't set one for my test map lol 01:39 Peacock lol http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/198/592/halolz-dot-com-minecraft-steves-backpack.jpg 01:40 VanessaE ha! 01:40 Menche Sam has an even bigger backpack, with 99 to a stack instead of 64 01:41 Peacock jesus lol 01:41 Peacock i always thought it was weird though that hte player inv is as big as the chest's, is the game implying im that fat? 01:41 VanessaE and that's without the bags mod :P 01:41 VanessaE with, multiply that by roughly 21 01:42 Peacock lol why not just play creative if people wanna carry everything around? 01:43 khonkhortisan I'd like to see a backpack mod that adds nodes like that to the character 01:43 VanessaE hah 01:43 Peacock lol thats alot of entities 01:44 VanessaE while probably doable, it's also fucking insane :D 01:44 khonkhortisan I can imagine people strolling the streets with these giant things behind them 01:45 Menche have to dump stuff to go through a door or narrow opening 01:46 Menche spam 'Q' -> entire backpack reduced to one nodeful of little spinning object stacks 01:46 khonkhortisan that's version two, where the backpack squishes into a bottleneck with the items rearranging themselves as you go through the doorway 01:46 Menche -> break mouse picking it all up 01:47 khonkhortisan Then when you go through a door placed sideways on a cliff, half the backpack is on each side, holding you up 01:48 Menche if you walk off a cliff you are left hanging helplessly to your massive backpack 01:49 VanessaE suddenly: item_drop ;) 01:49 khonkhortisan Then there would be a trap where there's this giant hole in the ground, that funnels down so the only way to get through it is to drop all your stuff, but there's a filter at the bottom that catches players, so someone can steal from you 01:50 Menche how hard would it be to make the player's speed slower for each filled inventory slot? 01:50 Menche to simplify things, only solid nodes would be counted 01:51 Menche when the inventory is filled, your are so encumbered you can no longer mine more 02:00 khonkhortisan So you'd mine until you couldn't anymore, and drop something every once in a while, or you'd fill a few slots with non-solid nodes so it won't fill up completely 02:01 Peacock well you'd think with a full inventory players would lose some HP from lugging all that stuff around :P 02:02 Peacock i did some landscaping and carrying dirt and rolls of grass around as helluva more tiring than other jobs carrying smaller things around 02:07 ShadowNinja Menche: I beleive you can use set_physics_override. 02:52 jajafreak yo 02:52 jajafreak hello 03:56 paramat captcha was 'oweesin position' 03:59 paramat *tumbleweed* 04:00 paramat *desolate wind* 04:03 VanessaE heh 04:04 paramat aha a human! 04:04 VanessaE BOO! 04:05 Peacock this place is always desolate nightime EST lol 04:07 paramat ive been wondering if there is performance advantage to not having 2 textures on the side of grass nodes (default_dirt^default_grass_side) but just a new single texture ... ? 04:08 Peacock thats what ive been doing for awhile 04:08 * paramat has suggestions in store for minetest game =/ 04:08 VanessaE I need testers. Anyone feel like testing stuff for me? :) 04:09 us}0gb VanessaE: It depends. I'm exhausted, so only if it's not a huge effort. 04:09 * us}0gb can't go to sleep and might as well do something 04:09 VanessaE us}0gb: I just need someone to pull the latest HDX and the latest git of minetest and try a sign-on test for me. 04:09 VanessaE HDX 256 or 512 requried. 04:10 Peacock cant, working on a glass computer http://s21.postimg.org/6fi58cqh3/screenshot_1336300378.png 04:10 paramat ah that counts me out, dont understand :) 04:10 us}0gb VanessaE: I don't think my system can even handle that. But I can try. 04:11 paramat nice poot 04:11 VanessaE paramat, us}0gb, clone this: git@github.com:VanessaE/hdx-512.git or this git@github.com:VanessaE/hdx-256.git 04:12 us}0gb Okay, downloading that and compiling Minetest .... 04:13 VanessaE us}0gb: you use us_0gb as an in-game nick, right? I forget 04:13 us}0gb I use 0gb_us, but my password was lost due to a misunderstanding. 04:14 us}0gb I'll find a new name. 04:14 VanessaE it's okay 04:14 VanessaE it doesn't matter what, I just need to know ahead of time 04:17 Peacock the computer is supposed to control forcefields, shields and power distributors, so far it's been a PITA just getting it to look right lol 04:18 us_0gb Sorry, laptop battery died. 04:19 us_0gb I wonder if that damaged my compiling Minetest .... 04:19 VanessaE you'll probably wanna make clean, yeah 04:20 Peacock lol 04:20 us_0gb Whenever I use "make clean", it doesn't clean it properly, and then "cmake" fails on me. 04:21 VanessaE weird 04:22 Menche rm -rf ./* && git reset --hard 04:22 VanessaE that works too 04:22 us_0gb The computer says it will take two hours to download that texture pack. That should give me time to find a name, ha ha. 04:22 VanessaE lol 04:23 VanessaE just use us_0gb if you don't mind. it's important :) 04:23 VanessaE for this particular server I mean 04:23 us_0gb Fine, fine. 04:24 * us_0gb grumbles about his name being mangled 04:24 VanessaE heh, this ain't permanent :_) 04:24 Peacock is it normal that use_texture_alpha on plain nodes makes it completely invisible? for nodeboxes and glasslike drawtypes it's fine 04:24 us_0gb You're erasing this world? 04:25 us_0gb Minetest is all set. 04:25 VanessaE us_0gb: not exactly. this is a backup copy of the current Realtest world, but it won't persist beyond these and a few more tests 04:25 us_0gb Or it isn't set ..... No such file or directory. 04:25 * us_0gb checks manually 04:26 us_0gb Minetest is missing. Minetest Server is not. 04:27 us_0gb Fixing ... 04:27 VanessaE make sure it can find irrlicht 04:27 paramat P, no idea :) 04:27 VanessaE otherwise it acts...weird. 04:28 us_0gb Hold on, I need to look up Minetest's Git file address. 04:31 us_0gb While I'm waiting for these downloads .... What are we looking for in your world? Missing textures? 04:31 paramat Peacock, i just tried normal drawtype for comet atmosphere and the comet itself disappeared 8/ 04:32 Peacock thats what i thought 04:32 Peacock yar mateys! we found ourselves a bug! 04:38 * us_0gb is worried his battery will die again 04:38 VanessaE us_0gb: a client crash. 04:38 VanessaE I wanna see if this test crashes or hangs your client. 04:39 paramat not a bug in my case, the meshes are not created because the comet plus atmosphere is considered solid (?) occlusion culling? 04:40 us_0gb Heads up: it will. But for graphics card reasons, most likely. 04:40 * us_0gb would love to be proved wrong though 04:41 us_0gb Compiling .... 04:41 Peacock *evil grin* force fields http://s7.postimg.org/nzvmxppmj/screenshot_1338184445.png 04:42 us_0gb Ha ha, nice. 04:42 paramat nice lights too 04:44 Peacock well the lights are pretty basic neons, though all the power items receive energy wirelessly 05:14 hoodedice *Typos* 05:14 hoodedice So, the online mod repo in the newest minetest build 05:15 hoodedice Where's it at? 05:16 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ 05:16 hoodedice And only the mod uploaders can add description, images blah blah? 05:17 VanessaE I think so, been a whike since I used it 05:17 VanessaE whikle* 05:17 VanessaE WHILE***** 05:17 hoodedice *Keyboards* 05:19 paramat mmm ... ive tried atmosphere nodes with alpha from 0 to 254, seems to make no difference, perhaps this is why texture alpha is used 05:21 hoodedice Hmm, on the realtest server in the newbie housing area... 05:21 hoodedice I've found a guy hogging two houses 05:21 hoodedice Like this: GFgang1's home, and GFgang2's home 05:21 hoodedice =.= 05:22 VanessaE two separate players, allegedly. 05:22 hoodedice and GFgang3 too 05:22 hoodedice XD 05:22 hoodedice Make that 3 05:23 hoodedice And he doesn't look like a newb either: Joiner table, scripting table 05:23 hoodedice ... 05:24 VanessaE I think there are four players. GFgang{1-3} and I forget the other nick 05:25 Peacock p the difference between alpha and use_texture_alpha has always confused me too lol 05:25 Peacock i always assumed alpha was for liquids and use texture alpha for everything else 05:32 VanessaE meh .. bbl. bedtime for me 06:03 Peacock diggable = false also doesn't seem to be working (nodebox forcefield node) 06:49 hoodedice RealTest players? 06:51 hoodedice Sokomine 07:14 hoodedice hey corner 07:14 VanessaE hey cornernote 07:14 VanessaE welcome back? 07:17 hoodedice How come only Adam has a working v7? 07:17 VanessaE he probably has the biome mod that goes with it 07:19 hoodedice And why isn't this biome mod distributed with the latest minetest v7? 07:19 VanessaE I'm not sure 07:20 hoodedice Why do I ask so many questions? 07:22 VanessaE heh 07:26 OldCoder mrtux, cornernote wb 07:26 OldCoder hoodedice, is that recursive? 07:26 OldCoder No... I guess not 07:27 hoodedice !g recursive 07:27 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion 07:28 VanessaE woulda been funnier if the bot has said "just google it." 07:28 VanessaE :) 07:29 VanessaE had8 07:29 VanessaE had** 07:29 hoodedice XD 07:30 hoodedice Math on Wikipedia.... 08:05 hoodedice Jordach ^.^ 08:12 VanessaE bbl 08:14 Jordach hai thar 08:17 Jordach okay, thee we go 08:17 Jordach ugh, my mouse pointer has corrupted via X11 08:18 Jordach okay, it's gone 08:18 Jordach re-logging was the answer 09:10 paramat Peacock, vrealm mod http://i.imgur.com/IurtzgP.png 09:15 Jordach fuck 09:16 Jordach hit an run by paramat 09:19 Peacock looks cool but without shifting gravity you can't do much 09:35 Jordach and lighting too 09:38 * Jordach spotted something 09:38 Jordach 03>cornernote 09:38 Jordach 03>irc 09:38 Jordach 01dafuq 09:38 Peacock LOL Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Vanishes, Taking £2.5m of Coins With It 09:39 Peacock "buuut buuuut.... bitcoin is not a scam!" XD 09:39 Jordach haha 09:39 Jordach there's no point with bitcoin: too many people are interested in it 09:39 Jordach and the asic miners just piss everyone off 09:40 Peacock i do my banking through *regulated* banks 09:40 Jordach so really it's a contest of who can throw the most money at the wall for pointless non-existent money 09:41 Peacock seriously, if i wanted to make money with BTC, i wouldn't try raising funds, i'd open an exchange XD 09:41 Jordach yeah 09:41 Jordach or open a bar that uses it 09:41 Peacock "you just got madoff'd" XD 09:42 Peacock well no because in a bar people expect something in return for their BTC's 09:42 Jordach Peacock, open up a place where bitcoin is money: people will come 09:42 Jordach Peacock, then you sell that BTC 09:42 Jordach = clean profit 09:42 Peacock tell the rubes they can get rich "investing" on your exchange, and in a few months claim you were hacked, and there you go, free money 09:43 Peacock the thing with anti-establishment types is that they think they're smarter than everyone else, which makes it that much easier to take advantage of their stupidity lol 09:44 Jordach lol 09:45 * Jordach noticed that the keys on his mechanical kb are super strong 09:45 Jordach i can't even pull them off 09:45 Jordach it won't budge :P 09:45 Peacock kb ~= kilobyte? 09:46 Jordach keyboard 09:47 Jordach is proller trolling as troller 09:47 Peacock proller == troller 09:49 Jordach we know 09:49 Peacock we, theres other people here? lol 09:49 Peacock been quiet all night 09:51 Jordach heh 09:51 Jordach we as in we *all* know that troller = proller 09:53 troller Jordach, also prolling as proller 09:54 Peacock one other funny thing i noticed, this time on the forums: seems half the people still active there these days are either devs or moderators lol 09:54 Peacock this one thread had nothing but one or the other posting lol 09:55 Jordach troller, hah! 09:55 Jordach Peacock, we're missing that *survival* element 09:55 Jordach that's why 09:56 Jordach (which is what the main site actually says, yet the game is biased towards building) 09:58 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Kindness Day! :-D 09:58 Peacock well tbh theres just not that much going on on the forums lately :P 09:59 Jordach that's a /amsg alright 09:59 Jordach JamesTait, /amsg ftw? 10:02 JamesTait Jordach, good gracious no! I have to make some kind of a manual effort! ;) 10:13 Megaf folks, my server still crashing 10:13 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65584/ 10:20 kaeza Megaf, update farming_plus 10:20 kaeza also mornings 10:20 Megaf kaeza, I got it yesterday 10:20 Peacock can't find the latest version of "mornings" :S 10:20 Megaf good morning kaeza Peacock 10:21 kaeza Peacock, lol 10:21 kaeza Megaf, are you using Minetest stable? 10:21 Megaf kaeza, nope, I got everything again yesterday 10:22 Megaf lastest master branch of everything 10:25 kaeza Megaf, grep '\bhoe_on_use\b' -R games/minetest_game/ 10:26 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65587/ 10:27 kaeza moreores 10:29 Megaf What do you mean with that? 10:29 Megaf I see 10:31 * Jordach prepares to "force" Calinou into using farming.hoe_on_use 10:34 Peacock you wanna force calinou to use a hoe? 10:34 Peacock make sure he's got protection 10:35 Jordach ...land protection! 10:37 Jordach WOW JESUS CHRIST 10:37 Peacock another use for rubber trees right there lol 10:37 Jordach f.lux is spinning my cores to 100% 10:37 Peacock f.lux? 10:44 Jordach would ya look at that: http://i.imgur.com/VX4Ajfm.png 10:46 Jordach my internal fans haven't silenced since flux started 10:46 Peacock and i bitch about 3% cpu usage lol 10:47 Jordach Peacock, it was draining my system (the windows version actually works) 10:51 Peacock "f.lux fixes this: it makes the color of your computer's display adapt to the time of day, warm at night and like sunlight during the day." 10:51 Peacock such hippie bullshit lol i wonder what else it's using your CPU for 10:53 Peacock personally i can't stand warm white any time of day lol 11:09 Peacock LOL "British police say a spy whose naked, decomposing body was found inside a padlocked gym bag in his apartment likely died in an accident with no one else involved." 11:09 Peacock he must have slipped and broken his neck while falling into the bag XD 11:23 Jordach then *who* locked said bag 11:27 Peacock the padlock just clicked on it's own when he fell in (naked), obviously 11:33 Jordach a spy wouldn't magically die 11:33 Jordach someone probably killed him 11:34 Jordach because locks don't lock themselves 11:39 Peacock obviously lol im guessing whatever he was supposed to infiltrate, it didn't work :P 11:39 kaeza Jordach can't sarcasm 11:42 Peacock you mean he was taking me seriously about the slipping and the padlock closing on it's own? 11:42 Peacock lol 11:43 Peacock you gotta wonder why they even bother to print such a story though, who would buy it? lol 11:43 Peacock http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-spy-bag-probably-died-accident 11:44 Peacock http://cdn.meme.li/i/pkhvs.jpg 11:44 Jordach and the cops were told by the secret service that it was an accident 11:46 Fadi 10 01Hey guys10 01how do I make my block just appear as an item10 01the wiki doesn't really explain much01 11:47 kaeza Fadi, what do you mean exactly? 11:48 Fadi minetest.register_node registers my item as a block 11:48 Fadi like I want to create my own charcoal 11:48 kaeza register_craftitem 11:48 Fadi oh 11:48 Fadi thanks 11:50 Fadi hmm now my texture won't appear 11:51 Fadi I'm using tiles = {""}, 11:52 Fadi oh nevermind I saw it in the wiki 11:52 Fadi it's inventory_image :) 12:06 GNADev|zRokh hi 12:06 Jordach SHIT RUN 12:06 GNADev|zRokh shut up Jordach, im not in the mood 12:06 Jordach ...that's what she said 12:07 Peacock shouldn't that be, running shits? 12:07 GNADev|zRokh yeah, when she was in bed with you 12:07 GNADev|zRokh but srsly....... imma get to the point: how do i know when i'm in love? 12:08 Jordach this is seriously off topic 12:09 GNADev|zRokh ok, don't answer..... 12:09 * GNADev|zRokh smells a forever alone guy 12:09 Peacock if it's your first or second cousin, it's not love, it's incest 12:09 Peacock and illegal in most states 12:09 GNADev|zRokh it is not my cousing nor is it any of my relatives... 12:10 GNADev|zRokh it's a girl i met years and years ago... 12:10 Peacock then i think that's called stalking 12:10 GNADev|zRokh ok, that's it, fuck you and that's it... 12:10 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, i happen to have a girlfriend 12:10 Peacock that's not love either 12:11 Jordach ...you should see what she makes me do most of the time :( 12:11 GNADev|zRokh srsly peacock... guess you'r name rlly says alot of you: you have a pea sized cock... 12:12 Peacock why all the interest in fucking me and knowing my size? 12:12 GNADev|zRokh it's hard listening to truth, isnt it... 12:13 Peacock jordach well my wife doesn't *make* me do anything, but if i let her cook, i'll have food poisoning and a four-alarm fire so... lol 12:14 Jordach Peacock, hah 12:14 Jordach im told off like a dog 12:14 GNADev|zRokh like a dog? nigga, you are a bitch 12:14 Peacock you're supposed to train her, she's the [word for female dog] 12:15 Fadi is it minetest.add_item to have specified blocks spawn in the world? 12:16 Peacock minetest.add_node 12:16 Jordach oh i can submiss her Peacock - she's a dirty bitch! 12:16 Fadi aha, thanks 12:16 Peacock well i didn't say dirty, and i dont really need to know what would make her so lol 12:18 Fadi I'm trying minetest.add_node({x=0, y=10, z=0}, "frismod:friswood") it's not working 12:19 Peacock minetest.add_node({x=0, y=10, z=0}, {name="frismod:friswood"}) 12:19 Fadi aha, my bad thanks 12:19 reactor 3DPABCTBYNTE 12:19 kaeza WAT 12:21 kaeza on a related note, I'd swear set_node worked with plain node names before 12:21 kaeza as Fadi wrote 12:23 Peacock really? 12:23 Peacock possibly 12:23 Peacock i learned this shit like 2 or 3 years ago lol 12:24 Peacock still use add node lol and have stubborn habit of doing minetest.env: instead of minetest. lol 12:24 kaeza it doesn't seem to work that way anymore 12:24 kaeza maybe I'm mistaken, dunno 12:24 Peacock well for me whatever works 12:29 Peacock "Politicians Wilders and Le Pen meet today to discuss plans for a right-wing populist faction of #EU Parliament" ... tea party coming to the eu lol 12:36 Jordach yup, fucking Wool is nearly 2 years of age now 12:37 Peacock wouldn't you get ropeburn from fucking wool for two years? 12:37 Jordach dammit Peacock 12:38 Jordach interesting datapoint: it's even in minetest-classic 12:38 reactor nothing is worse than fucking bones. 12:38 Peacock well mt classic backports the good shit 12:38 GNADev|zRokh kaeza, look at the pm 12:38 Jordach oh, and DM's too 12:39 Peacock i dont miss those lol 12:39 Peacock one of my first maps, while i was working a big building, a DM got to the surface and wrecked the rest of the town lol 12:40 Jordach owch 12:40 Jordach [12:05:27] YEah, one destroyed the top of my 500 tall stone tower 12:40 reactor DM? 12:41 Jordach they're the biggest PITA in Simple Mobs, MOBF and 0.3.X 12:41 Jordach you do not know the pain of dying to one 12:41 Peacock Bronx, 1970s, "DM was here" http://thenamesplissken.webs.com/urban_dk2.jpg 12:42 Peacock oh please, you die of lag before the mob every does much damage XD 12:42 Peacock *ever 12:42 reactor What the hell is DM? 12:42 Peacock Dungeon Mistress 12:42 reactor Oh. 12:43 reactor You're into BDSM? 12:43 Peacock that's a masochist 12:45 Jordach reactor, i thought everyone knew ;) 12:45 reactor I see. 12:45 reactor Would you like to talk about that? 12:45 Jordach aw hell no 12:46 reactor Does something make you uncomfortable to talk about that? 12:46 * Jordach wants to sort his inventory out 12:46 reactor Your inventory? 12:46 Jordach minetest @ VE-Survival 12:47 kaeza reactor, the joke about imitating ELIZA is getting old and boring, care to renew a bit pl0x? kthxbai 12:47 reactor You're old. 12:47 Peacock wtf is eliza? lol 12:47 reactor And aighty. 12:48 kaeza Peacock, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA 12:48 Peacock ELIZA was written at MIT by Joseph Weizenbaum between 1964 and 1966. 12:48 Peacock that's older than i am lol 12:49 Peacock oddly enough, chatbots haven't gotten much better since 13:07 Megaf I think my RPi server is back 13:08 reactor Good. 13:09 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001 13:09 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (415ms) 13:10 Megaf megaf@RaspberryPi:~$ uptime 13:10 Megaf 11:10:33 up 28 days, 14:57, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.10 13:11 reactor Megaf: they give no-ip.org hosts for free? 13:11 reactor Last time I tried, only .biz onese were free -_- 13:12 dafull97 Megaf, RPi server back? 13:16 thexyz how's no-ip better than freedns.afraid.org? 13:18 dafull97 i think no-ip isnt that good, considering they log all traffic out of your server =/ 13:22 dafull97 as i see freedns dont look like they do, =/ 13:23 Jordach there's no reason to be afraid of afraid.org 13:24 reactor dafull97: I would call bullshit on that. 13:24 reactor How can a site providing DNS monitor your traffic? 13:25 thexyz hm... no-ip's free plan sucks it seems 13:25 dafull97 i have no clue, but i am assuming through there client you have to download for it to work? 13:25 reactor You're clueless. 13:25 reactor The client is not mandatory. 13:25 reactor There are open alternatives to it. 13:25 dafull97 really? 13:25 thexyz and freedns' free plan shares your domain with the rest of the world 13:25 reactor inadyn(1) 13:25 dafull97 i always thought it was require 13:26 dafull97 and why call names? 13:26 reactor Sorry. 13:26 reactor It's sickening to listen to some people. 13:27 dafull97 you should honestly go play in traffic, your the only one that has been a jerk since i have joined #minetest 13:27 thexyz it's sad 13:27 thexyz it's sad that no op gives a shit about rules written in the /topic 13:28 Peacock well if you kick one of the two, you're left with one person talking to themselves lol 13:28 reactor I can not stand trying to be nice to people one can not stand. 13:28 reactor It was nice talking to you, dafull97. 13:29 dafull97 thexyz, it is... listen to him he always talks down to me look in the logs 13:29 thexyz Peacock: but the quality of conversation will improve which is good 13:29 dafull97 reactor, by calling someone clueless? 13:29 reactor Besides, I do know better what I should. 13:31 dafull97 reactor, what are you meaning by this - there are several interpretations 13:31 reactor Peacock: ...until that person notices the opponent has been removed. 13:32 Peacock i say grab some popcorn and take bets on who makes who cry first :P 13:32 thexyz http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/ 13:32 thexyz peace 13:33 dafull97 thexyz, who said bullying? he just talks to me like... crap. 13:33 pitriss reactor: put dafull97 into ignore or do it like i do.. just don't read his messages 13:33 reactor pitriss: I just did that. 13:33 reactor 19:28 < reactor> It was nice talking to you, dafull97. 13:34 dafull97 -_- .... i am like minetest IRC less and less 13:34 pitriss reactor: okay;) 13:34 thexyz dafull97: I just thought that's related. 13:34 Peacock the best example they can come up with lol http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/images/2.jpg 13:34 Peacock anyone running a font that big deserves at least a little teasing lol 13:35 reactor Yes. 13:35 Peacock "Bullying on IRC is a very serious problem and can not only depress people but even drive them into suicide! " how do such people deal with real life? 13:35 pitriss Peacock: +1 13:35 reactor The sad part about such people as dafull97 is they make me look like a jerk. 13:36 reactor Peacock: exactly. 13:36 dafull97 reactor, i am not trying to... 13:36 pitriss Peacock: such ppl should stick with facebook.. 13:36 Peacock naw just saying, ive had some much shittier bosses/coworkers than the types i've had to put up with on IRC, and it hasn't driven me "into" suicide (shouldn't that be *to* suicide?) 13:36 reactor Yeah really. 13:36 pitriss dafull97: he put you into ignore.. is pointless to write to reactor 13:37 dafull97 pitriss, ok thx 13:37 reactor I'm sorry, but that's the only way to deal with people like you, dafull97. 13:37 Peacock besides "bullying" on IRC is often a two way street, people take it and dish it out at the same time 13:38 dafull97 pitriss, please relay this message to him.... " i am not trying to make you seem that way... i was trying to hold a convo... maybe a misunderstanding? 13:38 thexyz dafull97: I see. There should be something done about how this channel is operated. I feel like ops don't give a single shit anymore. I don't understand then why are they even ops in this case. 13:38 Peacock heh, playing telephone now 13:38 pitriss dafull97: sorry i'm not proxy server 13:39 thexyz maybe ops should be voiced? to at least know who's who 13:39 Peacock we have more moderators than ops, and the boards get less action lol 13:39 Peacock op some of the moderators and make sure all the timezones are covered 13:40 dafull97 pitriss, thx anyway... 13:40 dafull97 thexyz, i do... they should do somthing anyway 13:40 thexyz Peacock: what about the boards? all reports get processed 13:41 Peacock naw just saying, more moderators than ops, but irc is busier, so maybe op some of the mods 13:41 Peacock just a thought 13:42 Peacock unless they already are, i know jdach and kaza were around most of the night 13:42 thexyz there are more ops than moderators actually 13:43 thexyz /msg ChanServ access #minetest list 13:43 Peacock really? damn lol where they at 13:51 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=117951#p117951 13:52 Peacock before helping him with MT we should show him what a caps lock key looks like XD 13:54 dafull97 LOL, Peacock 13:54 Jordach mauvebic for Moderator 13:54 Peacock jordach i already said i'm not a masochist 13:54 Peacock wait, did the guy reply to and quote himself? lol 13:55 Jordach [off] ...tell that to Vanessa'E 13:57 reactor o/ AspierMint 14:00 dafull97 troller is proller? 14:00 troller proller is troller 14:01 dafull97 dang i didnt know that 14:01 dafull97 i liked proller, troller was annoying at times =P 14:01 dafull97 well same people hhaha 14:04 AspireMint \o reactor 14:04 Peacock regeneration time, ttyl 14:04 reactor I am not waiting to receive your limp penis. 14:07 Fadi 01So I'm trying to get my wood block to form as a tree but I don't know what to use and the wiki isn't really that helpful10 01any ideas?01 14:12 kaeza Fadi, see spawn_tree 14:13 kaeza unless I misunderstood your question 14:14 Fadi I don't want to just spawn a regular tree10 14:14 Fadi but how to form a tree with my block 14:15 EvergreenTree You mean place a block and a tree spawns from it? 14:15 kaeza Fadi, spawn_tree can be used to create tree-like structures with any node 14:25 reactor A tree of bones. 14:30 * Jordach grumbles at firefox 14:30 Jordach it keeps resetting my settings on "do not complain that im closing multiple tabs" 14:30 reactor Jordach: deprecate that crap 14:30 kaeza failfox* 14:30 reactor It won't be long till it becomes more bloated than Windows. 14:31 Jordach it's the one thing that doesnt work 14:31 reactor Yes. 14:35 Jordach new profile image get 14:37 Jordach 03>A Minetest mod that adds Pokémon rods. Currently, they only catch gold lumps. 14:37 Jordach 03Free gold! 14:37 reactor Rods? 14:38 Fadi minetest.register_ore for scattering the ore around and stuff right? 14:38 Jordach Fadi, yup 14:38 Fadi thanks 14:42 * Jordach thinks we need a Magic 8 Ball which MinetestBot can use to resolve situations 14:43 dafull97 Hey guys 14:44 kaeza Jordach, a crystal ball would be useful too 14:44 kaeza hi dafull97 14:44 * Fadi thinks we need an advanced artifical AI to answer mod related questions 14:44 * dafull97 is in ISS 14:45 kaeza ISS? 14:45 dafull97 In School Suspension 14:45 kaeza thought you were on the International Space Station :P 14:45 dafull97 hahaha, lol 14:45 dafull97 meaning that i cannot goto class 14:46 Jordach dafuq - my magic 8 ball's screen is covered in muck 14:46 kaeza because you haven't defined that label! 14:46 reactor Fadi: what are you looking at?! 14:46 reactor I am not an AI. 14:47 Jordach (on the inside!) 14:48 Fadi wb reactor 14:48 Fadi I'm looking at creating a tree using my wooden block 14:48 Fadi the one in my mod that I'm working on 14:49 Jordach Fadi, like a sapling 14:51 sfan5 hi everyone 14:51 kaeza hi sfa 14:51 kaeza +n 14:52 reactor Hi sfan5. 14:53 Fadi Jordach what? 14:55 kaeza Fadi, perhaps if you are more clear in what you mean by "creating a tree" we could help you 14:55 Fadi I can't explain more than that 14:55 Fadi you know in the world generation 14:55 Fadi trees generate with normal wooden blocks 14:55 kaeza I already told you spawn_tree can be used for that 14:55 reactor And? 14:55 dafull97 Megaf, you here? 14:55 Fadi I'd love to know how to change that block to be mine 14:55 Fadi oh 14:56 Fadi I didn't notice 14:56 reactor You should think before you type. 14:56 reactor ...or are you using Winblows. 14:56 Fadi Windblows 14:59 reactor s/\.$/?/ 15:00 Fadi So my stuff is erroring, where can I find this debug.txt? It doesn't appear in my mod folder 15:00 kaeza either in the root of the minetest folder or in bin/ 15:00 reactor In your server's directory. 15:00 Fadi it's in the bin, thanks 15:02 reactor Mkay. 15:07 IceCraft hi 15:08 Jordach hai IceCraft 15:11 Jordach thexyz, are you proud: http://imgur.com/gallery/A0b2WZj 15:12 IceCraft how are you Jordach 15:13 Jordach alright 15:14 kaeza yey Jordach forked fsd 15:15 Jordach phe 15:15 Jordach phew*( 15:15 Jordach accidentially started another quassel 15:15 Fadi btw can mods be read as compiled lua scripts? like .luac 15:15 kaeza Fadi, they can 15:15 Fadi ooh nice 15:16 kaeza but you must still name the init file "init.lua" 15:16 proller Jordach, now you cant buy ever non-alcoholic beer after 23pm 15:16 Fadi ye I noticed when fiddling with it 15:18 Fadi my textures are so awful lol 15:18 kaeza don't know if luajit supports compiled bytecode from plain Lua though 15:19 kaeza so you may run into some problems with that 15:21 kaeza ~> echo "print 'Hello'" > aa.lua ; luac5.1 -o aa.lc aa.lua ; luajit aa.lc # luajit: aa.lc: cannot load incompatible bytecode 15:24 Jordach kaeza, lol, oneliners 15:24 kaeza :) 15:44 dafull97 Megaf, you here? 15:44 dafull97 lol i seen you join just not sure if you are here, here 15:44 Megaf heh 15:45 Megaf Yes I am 15:45 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30003 15:45 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30003 seems to be down 15:45 Megaf oops 15:45 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001 15:45 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (340ms) 15:45 Megaf dafull97, thats my RPi 15:45 dafull97 yay! 15:45 dafull97 lol\ 15:47 dafull97 did you try the https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 <-- Megaf 15:48 Megaf havent had time(another kind of time) yet 15:51 dafull97 ohh, ok... 15:52 reactor Owned? 15:56 Megaf it takes REALLY long to compile Minetest server on a RPi 15:57 thexyz cross compile 15:58 Megaf I'm not sure if I can compile it right that way 15:59 Megaf That did not work for me, even with the same architecture 16:26 harrison i have something to say about the rat in minetest 16:26 harrison the rat which wanders around 16:27 harrison i miss the original rat which was a 2d sprite 16:27 harrison i liked that better than the modern 3d type rat 16:28 ShadowNinja harrison: That is added by simple mobs/mobf. You can revert the appropriate commit if you like. 16:28 ShadowNinja (Or change it manually) 16:29 harrison oh, i am sure that is true. i was just saying. do you agree or disagree with my aesthetic judgement? 16:30 ShadowNinja harrison: I disagree. 16:30 harrison i thought i would be in a minority on this 16:30 harrison it may be nostalgia 16:31 harrison the first time i encountered the (old 2d) rat i followed it and fell in to a cave pit 16:31 ShadowNinja In fact I would like if item entities used the "weilditem"(3D) drawtype instead of "sprite". 16:31 harrison very memorable 16:31 ShadowNinja Heh. 16:32 harrison i suspected it of acting intentionally but then decided it moved randomly 16:32 ShadowNinja In fact ^ was done. But it was reverted, I don't know why. 16:33 harrison i modified it to use a different image and used it with a building script (or code -- i don't think it was lua) to place blocks and build stuff 16:34 harrison i may have a movie of that 16:34 harrison it seems i don't 16:43 VanessaE ShadowNinja: imho dropped items would look 10000x better as a wielditem that rotates like blocks do. 16:44 VanessaE having them always face the camera as sprites do now is very disorienting 16:46 Megaf folks, I compiled the Minetest Client only here on my EeePC 701, it got a Celeron at 630 MHz and a Gig of RAM, 16:46 Megaf surprisingly it runs pretty well 16:47 Megaf problem is, its a small screen, 7" 800x640 16:47 Megaf how can I make the minetest UI smaller? 16:54 ShadowNinja kaeza: You can use "luac -o aa.luac aa.lua && luajit -b aa.lua aa.luajitc" Then check which one is being used by, eg, trying "require('ffi')" in a pcall and using dofile on the appropriate file. But it all blows up if they have a different architechture(Although you could compile for multiple platforms and check env variables, ffi, or something like that). 16:55 ShadowNinja So you *can* make your code really hard to modify, but it won't be any faster and will be very difficult to do well. 16:55 ShadowNinja Fadi: ^ 17:00 Fadi o thanks 17:11 ShadowNinja Fadi: Actually LuaJIT bytecode works on all platforms that LuaJIT supports. And Lua bytecode only has issues with word size I beleive, so three compiled files(Lua32, Lua64, and LuaJIT) aught to do. 17:12 Megaf ShadowBot, kaeza, any idea how to scale down the minetest UI? 17:16 ShadowBot Megaf: No. 17:16 kaeza lol 17:17 kaeza no idea, sorry 17:18 Megaf 15 FPS 17:18 Megaf not bad 17:18 Megaf Debians perfomance is quite impressive on any machine 17:19 Megaf I got 2 fps on a Pentium D with a nvidia 9400, running windows 7 17:22 hoodedice Sokomine 17:29 VanessaE bbl 17:30 Leoneof :d 17:30 VanessaE Fadi: the shortest answer: We don't advocate bytecode, so don't use it. Use open source. 17:30 * VanessaE wanders off 17:31 Jordach Fadi, the best responce you'll get is a mod that will never get to go to the releases section 17:36 hoodedice So... 17:36 hoodedice Anyone knows anything about this Qt? 17:39 Sokomine er, yes, hoodedice? don't have too much time right now 17:41 Jordach nuuuu 17:45 hoodedice Sokomine: I just need DanDucombe's contact details if you have em 17:46 Jordach hoodedice, mods can get user emails 17:46 hoodedice *Psst* You know what to do 17:46 Leoneof hoodedice: Qt? 17:46 hoodedice Qt framework 17:46 Leoneof why you want to know about Qt? is minetest made by Qt? 17:46 hoodedice That thing used in Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS 17:46 Leoneof ha 17:46 hoodedice No, was just asking 17:47 Leoneof join #qt 17:47 hoodedice -.- 17:47 hoodedice I wanted to ask it from a 'can minetest be ported to sailfishos' perspective 17:47 Leoneof ok ok :] 17:47 Jordach btw, got a new skin: http://i.imgur.com/nxvTuyD.png 17:47 Sokomine hoodedice: no, i don't have any. but if you go to any of vanessas servers and say anything on irc, it's very likely he'll listen. you can also go to shadowninjas or kaezas server. they all share the same irc channel 17:48 leo_rockway hoodedice: Qt is C++, Minetest is C++. 17:48 * leo_rockway waves at the channel 17:48 Sokomine i don't know if dan can do that 17:49 hoodedice How do I connect to this 'irc on server'? 17:49 Sokomine better ask such a question on this channel or on #dev, hoodedice. i don't think dan has that knowledge 17:49 Jordach (if anyone's web cache happens to update, my user avatar has changed!) 17:49 hoodedice I wasn't gonna ask dan about Qt lol 17:49 hoodedice something else 17:49 hoodedice leo_rockway: What is that supposed to mean?> 17:50 hoodedice Nice skin Jordach 17:50 Sokomine hoodedice: it's on irc.inchra.net in #minetest. or you just join any of vanessas or shadowninjas or kaezas server 17:50 Jordach interesting fact: i based it from a 3DS game i play 17:51 hoodedice Sokomine: I'm not on ubuntu atm... 17:52 hoodedice Should I connect in-game? 17:53 ShadowNinja Double-posting? How about quintuple-posting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6761 17:53 Fadi Sorry guys and ye thanks for the suggestions, was busy 17:54 hoodedice "can anyone comment please?i like comment's." 17:54 hoodedice roflmao 17:55 thexyz ShadowNinja: and you're irritated by that why exactly? 17:55 thexyz 1 post per month isn't that much, right? 17:55 hoodedice Because the instigator is a 12 yr old? 17:55 Jordach i'm considering moving it to trash 17:55 Jordach anyone else agree 17:55 ShadowNinja thexyz: I'm not irritated, I just found it funny. 17:55 thexyz alright, sorry then 17:56 thexyz I hope some people read my signature 17:56 hoodedice Disagree 17:56 hoodedice You are breaking a 12-yr old's heart 17:56 hoodedice XD 17:56 Jordach well, there's nothing truly contributed 17:57 Jordach and it makes the rest of the forums look untidy 17:57 Sokomine hoodedice: what does that have to do with ubuntu? it's just another irc server :-) you can either connect with a standard irc client to that server/network or join any of the minetest servers that share their chat with that irc channel 17:57 hoodedice Indeed. 17:57 Sokomine plenty of ways to talk there :-) 17:57 hoodedice I don't have an irc client on windows, too lazy to download XD 17:58 thexyz eh; I still feel like that the person who chooses our forum moderators sometimes makes mistakes 17:58 Sokomine how are you talking here then? with such an ugly web interface? 17:58 * Sokomine throws an irc client at hoodedice :-) 17:59 harrison don't tase me bro! 17:59 * Jordach tases harrison 17:59 hoodedice Yes. Ugly web interface 17:59 Jordach you asked for it. 17:59 harrison ow 17:59 ShadowNinja Jordach: I beleive that you should leave it, it isn't causing trouble. 17:59 Sokomine thexyz: hm. there's not that much moderation going on i think. or perhaps i missed something. of course there is the regular spam that's taken care of by the mods, and that's fine 17:59 Jordach ShadowNinja, alright 17:59 thexyz wow, in Russia nexus 5 costs just about twice its price! so cheap 17:59 leo_rockway hoodedice: that you could try compiling Minetest. 18:00 thexyz Sokomine: okay, I'll complain about ops then 18:00 Sokomine hoodedice: there have to be useable irc clients for windows. anything ought to be better than the web interface... 18:00 hoodedice Compiling mietest is a headache which I'm leaving for next to next year 18:00 thexyz it seems that ops don't care about this channel; neither they do anything helpful when there's a conflict going on 18:00 hoodedice I have about 15 days of Windows use remaining 18:00 Sokomine thexyz: poor ops :-) they're no ops most of the time i think... 18:00 hoodedice HI PilzAdam 18:00 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 18:00 harrison 15 too many 18:00 thexyz Sokomine: that's a problem too 18:00 Jordach hello PilzAdam 18:01 thexyz it's hard for a newcomer to know who's op here 18:01 Sokomine ah. ok. so not much use in getting win equipped then 18:01 hoodedice Cause next to next year, I'll be in Year 2 of University 18:01 thexyz maybe they should be always voiced? like in #freenode 18:01 Sokomine that's true, thexyz 18:01 Jordach !voice 18:01 Jordach done. 18:01 thexyz I mean +V or whatever 18:01 Jordach :. 18:01 reactor !title 18:01 MinetestBot reactor: is minetest avalible for the dsi? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums 18:01 thexyz how's that even called 18:01 Jordach oh well, i'll just join and do it 18:01 hoodedice What's that? lemme try! 18:01 reactor MinetestBot: not descriptive enough. 18:01 harrison in #spasim we have a radical allops policy 18:01 thexyz meh, at least pm the bot or something 18:01 hoodedice +!Voice 18:02 hoodedice !voice 18:02 reactor #spasm? 18:02 thexyz no voice for you 18:02 hoodedice lol 18:02 reactor Are you trying to relieve cramps? 18:02 harrison #spasim 18:02 hoodedice I'm dumb then 18:02 Jordach reactor, stop with the ELIZA 18:02 reactor I'm not even doing it now. 18:02 harrison Can you tell me more about that? 18:02 reactor You need to stop thinking I'm going ELIZA on you. 18:03 thexyz wait, you mean reactor is not actually reactor but a bot? isn't that a bit too rude? 18:03 Megaf !voice 18:03 Megaf lol 18:03 reactor I have wo wonder, have you had any repetitive tnoughts beside that lately? 18:03 hoodedice You're dumb too Megaf 18:03 harrison Why do you say that you need to stop thinking I'm going ELIZA on you? 18:04 reactor We were discussing you -- not me. 18:04 reactor Etc. 18:04 Megaf hoodedice, Am I? 18:04 harrison This is fascinating! Do go on! 18:04 hoodedice You no have Voice, Megaf 18:04 hoodedice XD 18:05 ShadowNinja thexyz: I've waited over a week after sending that PM on the forum now... 18:05 reactor I'm not sure I understand you fully, harrison. 18:05 thexyz ShadowNinja: what PM? 18:05 Megaf meh, why do people need more than one core and more than 1000 MHz? 18:06 reactor Megaf: there is never enough processing power. 18:06 * Megaf using a Celeron @ 630 MHz 18:06 harrison Yes, I think we can all agree to that! 18:06 hoodedice Because Minetest. 18:06 reactor Megaf: once you start doing computational physics, you'll realise that. 18:06 ShadowNinja thexyz: The one about the other user on the furum with the "ShadowNinja" username. 18:06 thexyz ShadowNinja: and? 18:06 Megaf hoodedice, I play Minetest here, no problem at all 18:06 reactor Megaf: old machines are fine as personal servers, though. 18:07 hoodedice Ah, forgot the Celeron 18:07 Megaf reactor, heh, then I will use a GPU and OpenCL for that 18:07 hoodedice And maybe you have a GPU too? 18:07 thexyz ShadowNinja: if you want to talk about nickname drop then ask celeron 18:07 thexyz I'm not into politics 18:07 Megaf hoodedice, Intel 915 GMA 18:07 ShadowNinja thexyz: As I said it isn't a drop. 18:07 hoodedice =) 18:07 reactor Megaf: so? 18:07 hoodedice Must be plenty of ram then? 18:07 hoodedice *RAM 18:07 Megaf OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 18:08 harrison Unfortunately, one's lack of interest in politics does not imply that politics is uninterested back. 18:08 reactor E-penis? 18:08 Megaf total used free shared buffers cached 18:08 Megaf Mem: 1001 907 94 0 68 527 18:08 reactor harrison: I heard that one somewhere. 18:08 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, you can talk about this thing to celeron55, you could've started talking already if you didn't complain to me about the terminology 18:08 reactor harrison: been attending philosophy lately? 18:08 harrison No, I did my time long ago. 18:09 reactor Mk. 18:09 hoodedice 1 GB 18:09 * Jordach has noticed why his Mint runs like thunder 18:09 hoodedice Lemme guess: Linux-based OS 18:09 reactor Megaf: I care. 18:09 hoodedice ? 18:09 Jordach hoodedice, that and htop reported something unusual 18:10 hoodedice ?? 18:10 Jordach john_minetest, i don't have swap space 18:10 hoodedice htop? 18:10 leo_rockway hoodedice: think task manager. 18:10 hoodedice oh 18:10 thexyz Megaf: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ 18:10 hoodedice So leo_rockway what does Qt do with C++? 18:10 reactor It's nice to have some swap. 18:10 Megaf Jordach, neither do I 18:10 Megaf no need for that 18:11 leo_rockway hoodedice: Qt is written in C++ 18:11 hoodedice Hmm 18:11 hoodedice So if phone companies say that their phone uses the Qt framework 18:11 hoodedice What does that mean? 18:11 reactor harrison: buzz. 18:11 hoodedice I had a 2 GB Swap 18:11 harrison ? 18:11 leo_rockway it means it's awesome =] 18:12 hoodedice with a 4 GB RAM 18:12 reactor In case of a memory hog, you have some more time to resolve the problem. 18:12 harrison related to fizzbuzz or so? 18:12 hoodedice leo_rockway: : -.- 18:12 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OTK2cML.png 18:12 leo_rockway I really like Qt ^_^ 18:12 hoodedice So, main question 18:12 reactor In normal operation, things not actively used get swapped out to free some RAM. 18:12 Megaf thexyz, I know all that, thanks anyway 18:12 hoodedice How do I make minetest run on a Jolla phone? 18:12 Jordach b-b-b-but speeed 18:13 thexyz Jordach: met oom killer already? 18:13 reactor The hell is clementine. 18:13 Jordach reactor, music player based off of amarok 18:13 reactor Mkay. 18:13 Jordach thexyz, nope 18:13 reactor 34% for a music player! 18:13 Jordach reactor, QT 18:13 thexyz what a waste! 18:13 leo_rockway hoodedice: compiling for that platform. But it would need to be modified for controllers, etc. 18:14 reactor Woah, dude. You're spending irrationally! 18:14 hoodedice God bless the guy who made the OOM killer 18:14 thexyz free ram is wasted ram so what's the problem 18:14 leo_rockway Clementine is a Qt music player that looks just like Amarok 1.4. 18:14 hoodedice leo_rockway: I guess I'll leave that to when I actually learn code 18:14 Jordach reactor, thexyz: blame the KDE guys for a heavy cpu usage 18:14 reactor Heh. 18:14 harrison dreadful sorry, clementine 18:14 thexyz Jordach: why are there so many processes though? 18:15 reactor My whole system takes as much CPU as that clementine, more or less. 18:15 Jordach thexyz, tagreader, library updater 18:15 thexyz s/ram/cpu/g 18:15 leo_rockway I stopped using Amarok because it's a resources hoarder. 18:15 Jordach ^ that 18:15 Jordach but i don't like the others due to not supporting shoutcast - or even worse: crappy library sorting 18:15 leo_rockway I tried Clementine, but it started to get a bit big too. Nowadays I use Cantata, which is a KDE / Qt mpd client. 18:15 thexyz Jordach: do you need all that stuff? 18:15 reactor Men. Library. 18:15 Jordach thexyz, i listen to quite a few web radios 18:16 reactor Who needs metadata if you could just name the files properly? 18:16 thexyz I mean, library and tags 18:16 thexyz lol 18:16 Jordach reactor, the NSA 18:16 reactor Meh. NSA. 18:16 hoodedice I just use stock android music player with viper4android 18:16 leo_rockway Cantata: https://code.google.com/p/cantata/ 18:16 Jordach oh OOHHHH 18:17 * Jordach noticed the bar analyser was eating 20% cpu 18:17 Jordach now it's down to 14.5% 18:17 thexyz leo_rockway: why do I need daemon to play the music? 18:17 leo_rockway thexyz: why do I need a client to play music? 18:17 leo_rockway I play the music, then close the client. 18:18 leo_rockway and the daemon keeps the music playing. 18:18 thexyz hmm.. 18:18 leo_rockway and mpd is super light 18:18 Jordach leo_rockway, clementine does that too :) 18:18 leo_rockway Jordach: I believe Clementine does close-to-systray 18:18 reactor MPD? 18:18 Jordach it does 18:18 thexyz well whatever 18:18 reactor MPD is good. 18:18 leo_rockway reactor: mhm 18:19 Calinou clementine closes to systray 18:19 reactor I use it here, completely automated. 18:19 Calinou even ALt+F4 18:19 leo_rockway Cantata can be completely killed and the music keeps playing because mpd plays it. 18:19 reactor No need to even open the client, it changes playlists for me on appropriate times. 18:19 leo_rockway reactor: neat =] 18:19 reactor I'm a lazy bastard. 18:19 thexyz using it only because it's "light" seems a bit weird to me though 18:19 reactor >:D 18:20 Jordach I just use clementine because it works for me and my listening habits 18:20 leo_rockway thexyz: I wanted to listen to music without needing a small nuclear reactor. 18:20 leo_rockway Amarok got _huge_ 18:20 thexyz leo_rockway: I got it; I got it 18:20 reactor Don't you highlight me. 18:20 pitriss mpd is great piece of software..:) 18:20 Jordach you've all got better hardware than me, i've got a 7 year old Pentium4 :D 18:20 ShadowNinja Most of my list is processes running as root, a number of them kernel processes, and all eating 0.0% CPU and RAM. With about three that use measurable CPU and RAM. (minetestserver running as minetest, and chromium and quasselclient runnins as me) 18:20 reactor The best part of it is it can be run unattended, pitriss. 18:20 leo_rockway and you can control mpd from Android too, if you have Android. 18:21 harrison when i code i don't usually listen to music 18:21 harrison because i concentrate and forget 18:21 pitriss reactor: yeah and possibility to be controlled via scripts:D 18:21 reactor That, too. What I do. 18:21 thexyz ShadowNinja: by the way, I wanted to ask you: how does quassel core compare to, say, ZNC? 18:22 reactor By the way. cron rocks. 18:22 harrison i use quassel client and a remote core 18:22 Jordach you can stick the core into a VPS and leave it 18:22 harrison i recommend it highly 18:22 reactor harrison: it dumps core remotely? 18:22 leo_rockway I use weechat in a tmux session o.o 18:22 kaeza Jordach, you can too with ZNC 18:22 kaeza o hai leo_rockway 18:22 ShadowNinja thexyz: It is better. :-) You have dynamic backlog fetching, stored in a SQL DB. And the core uses very little CPU/RAM on my RPi 18:22 thexyz harrison: it doesn't answer my question though 18:22 leo_rockway kaeza: buenas 18:23 thexyz ShadowNinja: so how does it compare to ZNC? 18:23 reactor Do stick to text-based IRC clients. IRC is probably the last thing that would ever need GUI. 18:23 kaeza como va la vida de casao? :P 18:23 thexyz did you use both? 18:23 Jordach reactor, because nothing changed 18:23 leo_rockway kaeza: todavía no. En marzo. En unos días tengo la entrevista para la Visa. 18:23 harrison we aren't in the answer business. our core strength is obfuscatory rhetorical tropes. 18:23 reactor Jordach: because it's a mature standard. 18:23 Jordach leo_rockway, ##minetest-es 18:23 PilzAdam kaeza, leo_rockway, english please 18:23 ShadowNinja thexyz: Yes, I used to use ZNC. Quessel provides far better integration between client and core. 18:24 kaeza Jordach, PilzAdam: :< 18:24 Jordach kaeza, :> 18:24 reactor leo_rockway: I AM CORNHOLIO! 18:24 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, maybe I'll try it some day then 18:24 reactor DO YOU HAVE ANY TP? 18:24 reactor FOR MY BUNGHOLIO? 18:24 leo_rockway me speako el english 18:24 reactor ARE YOU THREATENING ME? HHHHEHEHEH HHHEHEHEHEH.... HHHHEHEHEEH HHEHEHEHEH YOU MUST GIVE ME YOUR TP! 18:25 kaeza teh duck 18:25 reactor (etc._ 18:25 reactor s/_/)/ 18:25 thexyz ShadowNinja: can it send/receive files via DCC? 18:25 leo_rockway I haven't tried MT in a while. What's new in the last 3 months or so? 18:25 Inocudom The minetest forums being as dead as a door nail is the new norm apparently. 18:25 leo_rockway phoo v.v 18:26 ShadowNinja thexyz: The only downside I have found as of yet is that you can only use clients designed for quassel. But QuallseClient, QuasselDroid, and WoboQuassel are some of the best clients around. 18:26 * Jordach found the best entity dupe ever http://imgur.com/a/ZLcSl 18:26 ShadowNinja thexyz: Yes, although I've never used that functionality. 18:26 Inocudom Freenode.irc, for reasons unknown, is not capable of going to channel #PureZC. 18:26 reactor Inocudom: exactly. Why don't you guys make mailing lists instead 18:26 reactor ? 18:26 ShadowNinja QuasselClient* 18:27 Inocudom That is the chat channel for the PureZC site. 18:27 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, thanks 18:27 Jordach Inocudom, it's an empty channel 18:27 thexyz reactor: because forums are better for what we have 18:27 Jordach same goes for ##PureZC 18:28 Inocudom Did you just go there? On mibbit, it shows some idle people there. 18:28 thexyz and easier for newcomers to understand too 18:28 Jordach strange 18:28 Calinou mailing lists in 2013? heh 18:28 reactor They should G-line mibbit. 18:28 harrison Rachel from Cardholder Services, this is Christopher Wren, the architect. "Pleased to meet you, Mr. Wren." "How do you like the 17th century so far, Rachel?" 18:28 reactor Calinou: what? 18:28 PilzAdam harrison, I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 18:28 reactor Calinou: Forums are the same as mailing lists, but perverted. 18:28 harrison Can you tell me more about that? 18:29 ShadowNinja Mibbit? Didn't they ban that? 18:29 thexyz leave global bans to shitty networks 18:29 reactor Mibbit is a kludge. 18:29 thexyz like efnet <3 18:30 reactor EvergreenTree: o/ 18:30 Inocudom I was there, so apparently not. It can join the #PureZC channel, but Freenode.irc cannot. 18:30 PilzAdam harrison, http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/contact-us 18:30 thexyz > lol we've banned hetzner subnet because we're retarded 18:31 reactor PilzAdam: what's the matter with him? 18:31 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I don't feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://start-irc-bullying.eu/start ;-) 18:31 reactor He seems alright. 18:32 PilzAdam reactor, he posted the same link I posted to other people, which offended me 18:32 harrison harrison: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 18:32 reactor May I have a look at the link? 18:33 Inocudom It looks like the features of proller's next branch are doomed. Everyone seems to hate them. 18:33 harrison prolly 18:33 ShadowNinja reactor: It was banned, and I see no mention of a unban: http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/ 18:34 reactor Good. 18:35 Inocudom I only used mibbit to get to the #purezc channel, since freenode.irc can't (the idle people don't show up with freenode.irc.) 18:35 reactor Those who aren't able to install an IRC client shouldn't probably be here anyway. 18:36 Inocudom What would keep freenode.net from joining #PureZC, even though Mibbit can? 18:36 reactor Different network? 18:37 Inocudom Well, it is supposedly at somewhere known as bladerock.net (or something like that.) 18:38 reactor What's exactly the problem? 18:38 reactor It's not on freenode, so what? Connect to that bladerock.net and join it there? 18:39 reactor What are you, a Windows user? 18:39 Inocudom The #PureZC channel is at irc.bladerock.net port 6667. 18:39 reactor So? 18:39 iqualfragile heh 18:40 Inocudom Apparently, freenode.net can't connect to it. 18:40 iqualfragile Inocudom: are you are windows-user? 18:40 reactor You shouldn't probably be using IRC wlevelith that of comliteracyputer. 18:40 PilzAdam iqualfragile, +are 18:40 ShadowNinja Inocudom: No, of course not. 18:41 iqualfragile * Inocudom are you are a windows-user are? 18:41 Inocudom Yes. My computer came with Windows. 18:41 iqualfragile yeah, looks like it 18:41 reactor Oh. I see. 18:41 reactor That's why. 18:42 pitriss PilzAdam: i want to ask, in your Farming plus mod.. Is speed of growing constant or depend on how long day/night cycle is? 18:42 reactor *yawn* 18:42 Inocudom But www.kvirc.net can connect here? 18:42 PilzAdam pitriss, its constant, it only grows in daylight, though 18:42 Fadi does anyone here do textures? 18:42 reactor Inocudom: you should read manuals. 18:42 Jordach Inocudom, freenode isn't related to bladerock 18:43 reactor Inocudom: and you should defeinitely read more about how IRC works. 18:43 iqualfragile reactor: high five for arrogance 18:43 reactor iqualfragile: pardon? 18:43 reactor What have I said wrong now? 18:43 iqualfragile Jordach: nah, i guess he means the freenode webchat 18:44 iqualfragile reactor: " Oh. I see. That's why." 18:44 reactor Heck, I've only made obvious conclusions. 18:44 iqualfragile yeah, me too 18:44 reactor Oh, that. Well, what's wrong with that? 18:44 iqualfragile nothing 18:44 iqualfragile its just slightly arrogant 18:44 reactor Windows use and stupidity correlate. 18:44 pitriss PilzAdam: ah ok, thanks.. Maybe i will try to modify it to be dynamic..:) On our server we have longer days and plants are growing too fast..:) 18:45 iqualfragile pitriss: have you modified tree growth speed? 18:45 iqualfragile i think its much too fast 18:45 Inocudom I must ask the obvious: why does everybody hate the features of proller's next branch? Some of them could be very useful. 18:45 PilzAdam Inocudom, its not "hate" 18:45 Inocudom Take, for example, the one that reduces server lag. 18:45 iqualfragile Inocudom: "proller's next branch"? 18:45 reactor iqualfragile: arrogant is someone using Windows, not reading documentation when needed, despite being advised otherwise by inherenamesert 18:45 PilzAdam its just that I dont like his "style" of development (i.e. just throw everything in) 18:46 pitriss iqualfragile: not yet, but good idea:) 18:46 reactor PilzAdam: Indian programming? 18:46 PilzAdam reactor, well, proller is russian.... 18:46 iqualfragile (sorry not quite up to date, was studiing) 18:46 iqualfragile reactor: indians are quite good at programming 18:46 reactor PilzAdam: nationality doesn't stop people from programming Indian style. 18:47 reactor iqualfragile: oh yes? 18:47 reactor iqualfragile: illegible code that by some holy effing miracle manages to work? 18:47 iqualfragile reactor: i hope so, most of them have studied (at least the younger ones) 18:48 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxMjk :D 18:48 reactor You've confused the hell out of me. 18:49 iqualfragile Calinou: they should realy stop using ubuntu as testing standard 18:49 reactor iqualfragile: true that. 18:49 reactor Ubuntu is shit. 18:49 iqualfragile let me guess 18:49 iqualfragile archlinux? 18:49 reactor No. 18:49 iqualfragile gentoofreak? 18:49 PilzAdam FreeBSD? 18:49 Inocudom Ubuntu is maintained by a small company in South Africa. 18:49 iqualfragile debianfreedomfag? 18:49 reactor I've been using ubuntu for some years. 18:50 Calinou http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif 18:50 Calinou they use xubuntu sometimes 18:50 Calinou that's cool 18:50 reactor iqualfragile: why are you interested in what I use eh? 18:50 reactor iqualfragile: you have something to tell me? 18:50 Calinou Inocudom: in Isle of Man ;) 18:50 Calinou debianfreedomfag? 18:50 Calinou do not use "gay" as pejorative term 18:50 reactor Why not. 18:50 iqualfragile Calinou: freedomfag is a term on its own 18:51 iqualfragile additional: watch yourself a litle bit southpark and you would know that fag and gay are quite different terms 18:51 thexyz Calinou: you good with laptops? is zenbook prime ux21a good? 18:51 Inocudom It is exciting to see RealBadAngel's progress with the shaders. 18:51 iqualfragile reactor: because i am a leet-haxxor and if you give me your ip i will give you a virus that deletes your hdd 18:51 iqualfragile just give me your ip 18:52 reactor iqualfragile: mike402.no-ip.biz 18:52 reactor iqualfragile: you're welcome. 18:53 reactor It's not IP, but if you'te "leet" enough, you can resolve it. 18:53 NakedFury 127.0.0.1 18:53 Inocudom I found out recently that AssaultCube is not dead. But why do they still cling to the Cube engine when Cube 2 has been out? 18:53 Calinou thexyz: no idea 18:53 iqualfragile NakedFury: thats my man! 18:53 Calinou thexyz: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Zenbook-Prime-UX21A-Ultrabook.83574.0.html ? 18:54 NakedFury Inocudom, because they are fools or just lazy 18:54 iqualfragile NakedFury: in 5 minutes your hdd is deleted 18:55 Inocudom If they move to Cube2, they should make a program that converts the maps for the game to the Cube2 engine. 18:55 NakedFury okay ill play as the worlds greatest detective while you do that 18:55 iqualfragile stfu you will be gone soon!1! 18:55 thexyz Calinou: yea, I've already read all of that 18:55 sfan5 !op 18:56 sfan5 !deop 18:56 kaeza awwww ♥ 18:56 PilzAdam sfan5, no 18:56 iqualfragile Calinou: i have a program here where i enter your ip and then you are dead 18:56 sfan5 PilzAdam, yes 18:56 PilzAdam sfan5, its not voxely enough for this channel 18:57 thexyz you aren't either 18:57 iqualfragile PilzAdam: =:) 18:57 OldCoder "Voxely" ? 18:59 Inocudom What do you guys know about the Typhoon Haiyan? PureZC didn't make a topic about it at all. 19:01 Calinou iqualfragile: DDoS is illegal 19:01 Calinou threatening can get you banned 19:01 pitriss please in minetest.register_abm, interval is in seconds? 19:01 PilzAdam pitriss, yes 19:01 iqualfragile NakedFury: i am saying good bye in advance 19:01 pitriss PilzAdam: thank you:) 19:02 sfan5 Calinou: banned from ? 19:02 Calinou here, or even klined 19:02 sfan5 ah, freenode 19:03 thexyz jokes are illegal 19:03 thexyz don't ever joke 19:03 thexyz people who are in control have no sense of humor 19:04 iqualfragile thexyz: thanks, at least someone understands i am joking 19:04 * away deletes iqualfragile cd drive 19:05 iqualfragile PilzAdam: http://imgur.com/WAM698L 19:05 iqualfragile better? 19:05 PilzAdam no 19:05 kaeza lol 19:05 PilzAdam voxels are 3D IIRC 19:06 kaeza one does not simply please PA 19:06 iqualfragile PilzAdam: that is 3d but it is straight from above!! 19:06 PilzAdam iqualfragile, ah, I love it then 19:06 iqualfragile i knew it 19:06 iqualfragile :D 19:13 thexyz ShadowNinja: well, it's not that bad 19:13 ShadowNinja :-) 19:15 ShadowNinja thexyz: What DB? 19:15 thexyz ShadowNinja: PostgreSQL 19:15 Megaf my netbook, http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshotfrom2013-11-13171023.php 19:15 ShadowNinja Good, that's considered the best one(although I use SQLite). 19:17 sfan5 Megaf: you should try docky 19:17 sfan5 xfce4 with only upper panel and docky is awesome 19:17 Megaf sfan5, that is docky actually 19:17 Megaf in panel mode =) 19:17 sfan5 oh 19:17 sfan5 I have the 'Matte' with 3d mode on 19:17 sfan5 +theme 19:18 PilzAdam Mathe? 19:18 iqualfragile kde with some design 19:18 iqualfragile analysis? *jumps out of window in fear* 19:18 Megaf on my main desktop I use XFCE 4 upper panel only with the docky in 3D mode 19:18 * sfan5 does too 19:18 PilzAdam iqualfragile, Diskrete Methoden 19:18 PilzAdam aka Mathe 1 19:18 thexyz ShadowNinja: what other cool features does it have? 19:18 Megaf here on my netbook I like to ran gnome 19:19 sfan5 my desktop: http://i.imgur.com/n9sTwfF.png 19:20 ShadowNinja thexyz: My favorite is dynamic backlog fetching(infinite backlog!) You also get proper timestamps on messages. 19:20 Calinou -1 for chrome 19:20 Calinou also your wallpaper seems very legit 19:20 thexyz sfan5: I just read reviews for that and everyone agrees it's shit :( wat do 19:21 sfan5 I like it 19:21 thexyz -1 for unreadable fonts on desktop 19:21 thexyz sfan5: novel or anime? 19:21 sfan5 anime 19:21 Calinou looks like some custom Minetest font 19:22 Calinou "novel or anime"? 19:22 thexyz I see 19:22 thexyz Calinou: ? 19:22 sfan5 Do you expect me to read a book? anime is more fun :P 19:22 thexyz yeah reading so hard 19:23 Calinou oh 19:23 thexyz I mean, I'm not reading this weeaboo shit either 19:23 Megaf sfan5, Im going to add the Faenza Icon theme here 19:23 Megaf pretty good icon theme 19:24 thexyz why is Jordach the only voiced OP? 19:24 reactor People talking about icon themes. 19:24 reactor Hah. 19:24 sfan5 can't i change the font color on the desktop D: 19:25 sfan5 s/(.+)/why \1/ 19:25 thexyz lol, dat plot 19:25 thexyz just look at those plots this girl has 19:26 sfan5 every Infinite Statros wallpaper contains plots 19:26 Jordach sfan5 = total wuss 19:26 Jordach MC Patcher 19:26 thexyz sfan5: because you don't need shortcuts on the desktop 19:26 thexyz oh, so that's why 19:27 Calinou I never use desktop shortcuts 19:28 iqualfragile Megaf: sfan5 are we doing a desktop thread? 19:28 sfan5 no 19:28 thexyz I don't either, XFCE just places open windows' shortcuts there 19:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BnIkSzf.jpg 19:28 Jordach ^ mine 19:29 thexyz jpg 19:29 Jordach imgur converts images into jpg if too big 19:30 kaeza repost: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-11%2012%3A37%3A32.jpg 19:30 Megaf heh, people like XFCE 19:30 Megaf thats cool 19:30 thexyz are there any alternatives? 19:31 thexyz kaeza: eh those clocks 19:31 sfan5 yay! bumblebee decided to work 19:31 iqualfragile thexyz: "plot?" 19:31 thexyz yea, those two big fine plots 19:32 thexyz what's your question, actually? 19:32 ShadowNinja thexyz: Also, hover over a image link to show the image. 19:32 sfan5 s/"(.+)"/what is \1/ 19:32 sfan5 I think you can interpret it like that 19:33 iqualfragile thexyz: i can not seem to find those plots you are talking about 19:33 thexyz ShadowNinja: I've already figured it out (after building it with webkit use flag the second time) 19:33 Calinou kaeza: that wallpaper looks MLP-inspired :p 19:33 thexyz iqualfragile: that's no problem 19:33 thexyz iqualfragile: https://yande.re/post?tags=infinite_stratos+ 19:34 kaeza Calinou, ·_· 19:34 thexyz um.. I guess it's only NSFW if you're logged in so.. 19:35 sfan5 what about this? http://www.emptyblue.it/data/wallpaper/InfiniteStratos/11_1205infinite_stratos0224.jpg 19:35 thexyz so much plot 19:35 sfan5 hehe 19:35 * Jordach and EvergreenTree have been filling VE-Survival with TNT 19:36 Jordach okay, that's really bad: 0 ps 19:36 Jordach fps* 19:36 reactor Pwned. 19:40 thexyz sfan5: if you're watching it for plot then I think suggesting you hs dxd is fine as it's got even more plot 19:41 sfan5 hs dxd would fit my genre (while not having selected any 'ecchi' or 'harem' checkbox while searching) but no 19:41 sfan5 I'm also not watching it for plot 19:42 sfan5 in the anime the plot is not as much as my wallpaper 19:42 iqualfragile thexyz: ok, took me some time but iguess i got the plot 19:42 sfan5 -the 19:43 thexyz ShadowNinja: the cool thing is that it works with any URL, not just images 19:43 thexyz sfan5: no? :( 19:43 sfan5 no, not mainly :P 19:44 thexyz hmm.. then I'm not sure 19:44 thexyz what to suggest, that is 19:45 sfan5 http://fansubdb.net/fansubs?n=&t%5B%5D=1&s%5B%5D=1&s%5B%5D=3&ga=0&gna=1&g%5B%5D=1&g%5B%5D=2&gn%5B%5D=8&g%5B%5D=10&gn%5B%5D=22&g%5B%5D=23 19:45 sfan5 look at the genres selected at the side 19:47 iqualfragile dead:beef:cafe:babe 19:47 iqualfragile it worked, i summoned him! 19:47 thexyz Übernatürlich is a nice genre I suppose 19:47 sfan5 heh 19:47 sfan5 well just throw it into google translate de -> ru 19:47 thexyz sfan5: got any list of watched stuff? 19:47 sfan5 yep 19:47 iqualfragile my desktop http://mg.viewskew.com/u/iqualfragile/m/desktop/ 19:48 iqualfragile thexyz: übernatürlich-->supernatural 19:48 thexyz translated it already but thanks 19:48 sfan5 thexyz: http://pastie.org/private/lzlqi5ezvq0jkfi28mxtw 19:48 pitriss PilzAdam: please.. I want to ask.. Is your farming plus counted to run that abm every default ingame hour? (in case of tomatoes, where interval is 50s) 19:48 sfan5 I suppose it's obvious what [...] means 19:49 iqualfragile Yuusha ni Narenakatta Ore wa Shibushibu Shuushoku o Ketsui Shimashita 19:49 iqualfragile wut? 19:49 PilzAdam pitriss, its a more or less arbitrary number 19:49 sfan5 iqualfragile: pretty long title :D 19:50 sfan5 http://fansubdb.net/anime/2358/yuusha_ni_nare_nakatta_ore_wa_shibushibu_shuushoku_o_ketsui_shimashita 19:50 pitriss PilzAdam: ah okay.. thanks 19:50 iqualfragile http://images.fansubdb.net/ce98d33883723798e7f601cbddc7dad535 19:50 reactor You. 19:50 sfan5 john_minetest is not new 19:50 sfan5 :P 19:50 reactor I mean, o/ john_minetest. 19:50 reactor sfan5: I know. Just wanted to mess with him. 19:51 iqualfragile sfan5: ^ 19:51 thexyz sfan5: eh, I think I prefer some other genres 19:51 reactor Please note I do not intend any harm to anyone. 19:51 iqualfragile soo: do you watch any anime outside the tits-genre? 19:51 sfan5 sure 19:52 sfan5 thexyz: which other genres? 19:52 thexyz sfan5: dunno, you can consult the list at http://myanimelist.net/animelist/thexyz but that's pretty entry-level stuff 19:53 reactor Fun fact. A buddy of mine used to watch quite much anime. Now he has sexual problems (ED? I didn't ask him to elaborate). 19:53 thexyz poor guy =( 19:53 iqualfragile fun fact: lots of japan animes use quite a bit of german 19:54 sfan5 define 'use' 19:54 iqualfragile paprika, steins gate, elfenlied, 19:54 thexyz sfan5: but you should watch Steins;Gate 19:54 iqualfragile they use some single words as names for things 19:54 iqualfragile nge is a good example 19:54 iqualfragile sfan5: yes you should 19:54 thexyz paprika <3 19:54 FreeFull reactor: I don't think those two are related 19:55 iqualfragile sele nerv etc 19:55 reactor FreeFull: may or may not be ralted, but these seem to correlate: I know/heard of at least three people with the same problem. 19:55 iqualfragile thexyz: toradora? srsly? 19:56 reactor s/ralt/relat/ 19:56 iqualfragile "träumend" 19:56 thexyz iqualfragile: bestest love story ever told 19:56 sfan5 haha 19:56 iqualfragile was my first anime to be honest 19:56 FreeFull reactor: That's not a very large sample size 19:56 thexyz iqualfragile: toradora? 19:56 iqualfragile yes 19:57 thexyz ah 19:57 thexyz we've released vn translation not so long ago 19:57 thexyz http://toradora.xyz.is/ 19:57 iqualfragile "vn"? 19:57 thefamilygrog66 howdy 19:57 thexyz visual novel, you didn't know? 19:57 iqualfragile no 19:57 reactor Шо маемо то маемо, they say. I wouldn't like to go around polling people with such interests. 19:58 thefamilygrog66 maemo 19:58 iqualfragile reactor: can you translate that to german or english so the majority of people reading this right now can understand it? 19:58 thexyz iqualfragile: alright then 19:59 reactor "Шо маемо то маемо" - Russian for "We have what we have" 19:59 iqualfragile hmm… does not quite seem to make sense to me 20:00 sfan5 thexyz: is Vivired Operation good? 20:00 sfan5 '' Vividred is a bootylicious party with a mix of action porn and, well, softcore porn. '' 20:00 sfan5 lol 20:01 thexyz sfan5: BD version is 20:01 thexyz if you're looking for plot 20:01 sfan5 plot all over the place? 20:02 sfan5 Steins;Gate Ep1 is almost done... brb 20:05 thefamilygrog66 digital "choose your own adventure" books, more or less? 20:06 reactor john_minetest: nope. 20:07 dumdidum where can i find the different seeds? orange, carrot, tomato, pumpkin, ... 20:08 reactor dumdidum: particle accelerator. 20:08 iqualfragile thexyz: i do know what vns are but i did not know that toradora had one 20:08 kaeza Quit: *COFF* 20:08 kaeza dumdidum, /giveme 20:09 iqualfragile sfan5: the first ~ 3 episodes are a bit strange at first 20:09 iqualfragile but it waill all make sense in the end 20:09 iqualfragile s/waill/will/ 20:10 reactor Good night. Rather, goo'd night. 20:10 Fadi Is anyone here free to help me with mod development, like answer a question? 20:11 dumdidum particle accelerator? what do i need for this? 20:11 iqualfragile Fadi: do not ask if you can ask just ask 20:11 Fadi alright 20:11 thexyz iqualfragile: well then go play it 20:11 Fadi so I've created a certain stone for my mod, but in the crafting grid it's not doing what I want it to do 20:11 Fadi like create the sword in my mod 20:11 Fadi it just takes the basic stone propreties 20:12 Fadi well I copy pasted and edited the code of the stone 20:12 iqualfragile thexyz: i do not own an psp and i do not know where to buy -.0 the game 20:12 kaeza Fadi, did you add 'stone=1' to 'groups'? 20:12 thexyz iqualfragile: use an emulator, like PPSSPP 20:12 Fadi in minetest.register_craft ? 20:12 thexyz and google can tell you where to get the game 20:12 kaeza no, in register_node 20:13 Fadi oooh 20:13 Fadi here's what I have 20:13 Fadi groups = {cracky=2, stone=1}, 20:13 Fadi change it to stone=0? 20:14 iqualfragile shouldnt explicit recipies overide implicit ones? 20:14 kaeza Fadi, no, leave it at 1 20:14 Fadi So 20:15 Fadi I just make a new group? 20:15 iqualfragile so 20:15 iqualfragile no 20:15 iqualfragile your new stone is some kind of stone 20:15 iqualfragile so it belongs in the stone group 20:15 kaeza Fadi, are you using latest minetest_game? 20:15 Fadi of course 20:16 iqualfragile Fadi: link to repository? 20:16 Fadi I kinda don't have that yet, I'm new to minetest 20:16 kaeza pastebin the code 20:16 iqualfragile s/minetest/development/ 20:16 Fadi alright 20:16 Fadi y 20:20 iqualfragile john_minetest: vimeo? 20:21 iqualfragile john_minetest: or http://mg.viewskew.com/ 20:22 Fadi so I have no idea what's wrong 20:22 Sokomine hm. i wish signs would tell the reader who last wrote on them - i.e. "this is a great sign (written by xyz)" 20:22 * Sokomine looks hopefully at pilzadam 20:22 Fadi 01http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/99-TTnNkzl4YM02 01blocks02 01and02 01http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/101-HbqrCOlqnf02 01functions01 20:22 FreeFull Do locked signs do that? 20:23 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Poke a homedecor dev about that. 20:23 kaeza pong 20:23 kaeza good idea :P 20:23 Sokomine why? signs are part of default and ought to be improved there 20:23 iqualfragile FreeFull: they tell you who owns them 20:23 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Oh, those signs... 20:23 Sokomine poking a homedecor dev about it might be easier than getting it into minetest_game, that's true :-) 20:23 Sokomine yes. normal signs 20:24 Sokomine they ought to tell who wrote on them. might also help with seeing whose house it may be. or who vandalized a sign 20:24 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Pull request maybe? 20:24 iqualfragile Sokomine: why would that be? 20:24 Sokomine hm. will only work if the idea is approved of i think 20:24 FreeFull I wonder why minecraft doesn't have locked chests 20:24 FreeFull Clearly minetest is superior just in that 20:25 iqualfragile minecraft does not have locked chests? 20:25 Sokomine freefull: while there are some things people from minecraft miss about minetest and complain about, the other way around is certainly equally true. there are some things that are just better in minetest (like the 3x3 crafting grid in the inv, the locked chests, the nodeboxes, ...) 20:26 Sokomine it does not seem to have by default 20:26 Sokomine and on a larger german server, people who played there told me that they don't even use protection because that would be too much work 20:26 iqualfragile yeah, it is a bit annoying with minecraft 20:26 iqualfragile you can either use some kind of standard protection plugin 20:27 FreeFull In minecraft, you're forced to either hide your chest or use a mod 20:27 iqualfragile but that would allow conter-griefing (reserving unrelated pieces of land for yourself) 20:27 FreeFull Of course, without a mod nothing stops someone from digging up your house 20:27 iqualfragile or use som complicated system like towny 20:28 FreeFull Of course, in minetest, if you don't have a protection system, you can place locked chests anywhere 20:28 FreeFull And as long as there is an item inside, nobody but you and the mods can break it 20:29 Sokomine havn't seen much chest spam on servers. if anything, there are chests left after houses where griefed or taken down due to beeing not...worth of keeping 20:29 Fadi so to do a small recap, my crafting is not working and I do not know why, 10 01http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/99-TTnNkzl4YM02 01blocks02 01and02 01http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/101-HbqrCOlqnf02 01functions | thanks for your help in advance02 20:30 Sokomine they can be removed with worldedit after all, and that's something a server ought to have 20:30 Sokomine and regarding the sign: would it be ok for you to have a "...(written by whoever)" attached to the text of the sign in the description? 20:30 kaeza Fadi, ah now I see 20:31 kaeza where do you register your sword? 20:31 Fadi oh I didn't link to the items.lua 20:31 Fadi my bad 20:31 Sokomine or perhaps "player wrote: xyz" 20:31 Fadi http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/100-j1uHjL5f7Q 20:32 iqualfragile Sokomine: or perhaps player thexyz wrote: zyxeht 20:32 kaeza Fadi, try removing the stone group 20:33 kaeza (from the frisstone) 20:33 Sokomine that might be too long, iqalfragile. "iqualfragile wrote: hi" sounds better 20:33 Fadi Alrighty 20:33 Fadi trying it now 20:33 addi or something like "signtext" [edit by playername] 20:33 Fadi aha works now! 20:34 Fadi thanks 20:34 kaeza better: add a whole edit history with diffs Wiki-style! 20:34 * kaeza runs 20:34 iqualfragile that might be too long addi. " hi by adi" sounds better 20:34 iqualfragile kaeza: hg based! 20:34 kaeza Fadi, strange 20:34 kaeza iqualfragile, :P 20:35 Fadi man my textures are so horrible lol 20:35 kaeza that just reminds me I need to add that to my wiki mod 20:35 iqualfragile kaeza: you know we where kidding right? 20:36 gentoo daww 20:37 kaeza Fadi, looks like a bug in craft recipe resolution 20:37 Fadi Should I report it? 20:37 kaeza (group recipe overrides specific recipe) 20:37 Fadi or is it like a bug from my stuff 20:37 * Sokomine hits kaeza with a sign :-) 20:37 iqualfragile pilz 20:37 * kaeza puts a default:nyancat on Sokomine's head 20:37 iqualfragile wtf? pilzadam is ofline? 20:38 iqualfragile its like 21:38 around here 20:38 * Sokomine wonders weather she ought to pat the cat or not :-) 20:38 Fadi That's my time 20:38 * Sokomine sells the nyan cat to the next collector and buys some mese with the money 20:38 iqualfragile Fadi: asl? 20:38 kaeza Fadi, drop a bug report in minetest_game issue tracker 20:39 kaeza or rather minetest 20:39 Fadi asl? wat 20:39 iqualfragile Fadi: yes, minetest, not minetest_game 20:39 kaeza ·_· 20:39 Fadi alrighty 20:39 kahrl Fadi: just a random guess... are those craft definition in a different lua file that you didn't dofile()? 20:39 kahrl +s 20:40 Fadi I did do dofile() in the init 20:41 Fadi simple English would be appreciated lol 20:43 Fadi oi don't you dare ctcp me! 20:44 iqualfragile Fadi: Tunisia? 20:44 iqualfragile wtf? who lives there? 20:44 iqualfragile are you using a vpn? 20:44 Fadi No 20:44 Fadi I actually live there 20:44 Fadi lol 20:44 iqualfragile ah, cool 20:45 iqualfragile thexyz sfan5 anybody watching anime: recommend me one 20:45 iqualfragile beeing borderline-bored 20:45 kaeza boku no pico 20:45 Jordach kaeza, lol 20:45 * kaeza runs 20:46 iqualfragile kaeza: stfu 20:46 * Jordach runs 20:46 * Fadi stares at Jordach 20:46 * iqualfragile chases kaeza 20:46 Jordach :> 20:46 * iqualfragile finds kaezas ip 20:46 * iqualfragile deletes kaezas cdrom drive via haxxorlulz 20:47 kaeza good luck! I'm behind seven prox... o wait 20:47 Fadi he can't do anything with your ip unless it's not dynamic 20:47 iqualfragile Fadi: wtf? 20:48 Fadi wat 20:48 iqualfragile wat.jpg 20:48 Fadi . 20:48 iqualfragile why would it make a difference? 20:48 Fadi oh I thought you found my porn folder for a while 20:48 Fadi oh wat 20:48 Fadi nvm 20:49 Jordach how would an internet stranger find your LOCAL porn folder 20:49 iqualfragile Jordach: didnt i just tell? via haxxorlulz 20:49 Fadi ye l33t1337H4X 20:49 kaeza no one can find my pr0n folder! I put a dot in front of the name! 20:49 iqualfragile kaeza: ^^ 20:50 iqualfragile /home/iqual/ich bin der Geist der stets verneint/Und das mit Recht, denn alles was Ensteht/Ist wert das es zugrunde geht/Drum besser wärs wenn nichts enstünde/So ist denn alles was ihr Sünde/Zerstörung, kurz das Böse nennt/Mein eigentliches Element/P0rn 20:50 kaeza wat 20:50 iqualfragile which is basicly a symlink to /home/iqual 20:50 iqualfragile :D 20:50 kaeza lol 20:57 kaeza Fadi, post a link to the scripts in that report 21:03 Fadi oh 21:03 EvergreenTree VanessaE, Do you have any idea why the logic control units are not allowing pipeworks to connect to an mv grinder? 21:03 Jordach the pipes do not connect to the machine, even when powred 21:03 Jordach Jordach: Hmmm, *tubes* should connect. 21:04 Fadi Edited it kaeza, thanks for telling me I lost track adding more items :p 21:05 kaeza looks good now :P 21:07 EvergreenTree Does anyone have any idea why an mv grinder with two logic control units is not connecting with pneumatic tubes? 21:09 kaeza EvergreenTree, see jordach's reply 21:13 Fadi I finally made a good texture that isn't so shit 21:13 Fadi lmao 21:17 Fadi http://prntscr.com/23yd38 doesn't look that bad eh? 21:18 Fadi ignore the join thingy, it's part of trillian's ingame chat 21:22 iqualfragile Fadi: you could use http://mg.viewskew.com for minetest related picture uploading 21:22 iqualfragile wtf? 21:22 iqualfragile that is faggotish 21:23 iqualfragile they actualy use imgur for the imagehosting 21:24 ShadowNinja lol 21:42 Fadi What license suits "open source, modify with the owner's permission" 21:42 VanessaE EvergreenTree: I would guess the grinders aren't using the pipeworks tubes' autorouting rules. 21:49 EvergreenTree Fadi, I think CC-BY-SA 3.0 or CC-BY 3.0 would fit 21:55 Fadi thanks 21:57 proller Sky server stat: digs: 1640585 places: 933008 21:57 proller respawns: 23673 23:27 KingsleyT just poking around minetest...are NPC's planned to be implemented internally, or just via the mod API? 23:27 Peacock mods most likely 23:27 Peacock they're going to fix entities before hardcoding mobs 23:27 KingsleyT 'fix'? 23:28 Peacock yeah fix 23:28 Peacock c55's already working on the entity duplication thing 23:28 KingsleyT as in there's something wrong with them 23:28 KingsleyT hmm 23:29 Peacock well they do lag public servers to high heavens, unless you have a 6 or 8 core computer lol 23:29 KingsleyT haha, gotcha 23:30 KingsleyT I'm looking at minetest to see if it's guts are suitable to build a project off of 23:36 KingsleyT ..does the engine currently support placing voxels on coordinate planes other than the world coordinates? 23:37 Exio4 more cores don't mean anything because we can't use them at they full power 23:38 VanessaE KingsleyT: explain? 23:38 paramat KT, i doubt it, you after spherical co-ordinates? 23:38 KingsleyT nah, I'm thinking like in games such as Blockade Runner 23:39 KingsleyT where you can build spaceships on a coordinate plane and then fly them around 23:39 KingsleyT where you're actually rotating/translating their coordinate plane 23:39 paramat ah 23:39 VanessaE so earth coords on the ground, and solar/galactic coordinates once you get sufficiently above ground? 23:40 VanessaE that's a no 23:40 * KingsleyT is not sure he is using the right terms, prototyped this himself in unity though 23:41 KingsleyT VanessaE: no, I basically just mean "blocks are put in the 'world coordinates'. Can I put blocks in coordinates other than the world?" 23:42 KingsleyT if not, then too bad :P 23:42 VanessaE I'm afraid I don't understand 23:42 VanessaE blocks are always placed on a regular grid, but entities can move freely. 23:43 KingsleyT right 23:43 KingsleyT but imagine you could make more than one grid 23:43 KingsleyT and rotate that grid however you like 23:43 paramat proller, one more small fix for floatlands needed: new default perlin noise settings for noise1 with spread of 256 instead of 64, i will post an issue at github very soon 23:43 KingsleyT and then choose which grid the blocks aligned to 23:44 KingsleyT you can then make any blocks within that grid a physics object 23:44 KingsleyT and you have a destructible voxel car puttering along the landscape 23:44 KingsleyT :3 23:44 paramat proller, ... oh and octaves increased to 6 and persistence increased to 0.6 23:45 iqualfragile KingsleyT: that would quite certrainly be the wrong way to implement it 23:46 iqualfragile as you would need multiple times the disk space and memory 23:46 iqualfragile bad idea 23:46 KingsleyT iqualfragile: how so? 23:46 KingsleyT the secondary voxel grids would only be as large as the length/width/height of the voxels within them 23:46 iqualfragile but you could think about taking some nodes, simplyfy their physical appeareance (no borders inbetween the blocks) and then turn that into an entity 23:48 iqualfragile KingsleyT: so you would "just" need to save number of voxels*height of the inner grid*width of the inner grid*depth of the inner grid more things 23:48 iqualfragile you can obviously optimize that 23:49 iqualfragile but still: on every move of any construct you would need to copy some thousand nodes from one field to another 23:49 paramat KT, there is a buggy airship mod here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6184 23:49 iqualfragile and (and i guess that is more problematic) recalculate the new surface 23:49 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I think our terms may be getting mixed up 23:50 KingsleyT from what you're describing, I guess i'm saying "have an entity with its own voxel grid that is only as large as the entity's bounds, and allow modification of voxels on that grid as necessary" 23:50 KingsleyT there's no moving/copying/etc of memory needed to move the thing around 23:50 Exio4 something like the "Entity luavoxelmanip" 23:50 KingsleyT only if you're adding or destroying voxels to it 23:50 Exio4 i guess 23:50 KingsleyT *on it 23:51 KingsleyT Exio4: gugglin D: 23:51 KingsleyT aand all I find are irc logs 23:51 Exio4 because it isn't implemented 23:51 KingsleyT hue 23:52 iqualfragile KingsleyT: that will not work 23:52 iqualfragile /would be a lot too complicated 23:53 Exio4 it wouldn't be that complicated if we had a way to do it like he says 23:53 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I made it work, I know exactly how complicated it is :| 23:53 KingsleyT >in C# mind you 23:54 iqualfragile why not just take some voxels and generate an entity from their simplified shape 23:54 KingsleyT iqualfragile: because then they're not modularly destructable 23:54 iqualfragile save the original voxels somewhere in the background 23:54 iqualfragile and you are good 23:55 KingsleyT I can't use redstone/electricity/whatever to power my engines 23:55 iqualfragile no need to create some kind of twisted mix-type 23:55 KingsleyT and have someone chunk grenades at me and blow up my power connections 23:55 KingsleyT as I hastily try to replace them to restore lift as my airship plummets to the earth 23:57 KingsleyT what your saying is like "why have a voxel world we could just make it a single uneditable polygon mesh and save a lot of memory" 23:57 KingsleyT except for entities :B 23:57 iqualfragile actualy polygon meshes are a lot easier editable then voxels 23:57 iqualfragile but never mind 23:58 KingsleyT ...I await the constructive solid geometry mod 23:58 KingsleyT :| 23:58 iqualfragile that will not be possible 23:58 iqualfragile you would need to change something about the engine 23:58 KingsleyT I am joking 23:58 KingsleyT because that's basically what you just said 23:59 iqualfragile but you have allready done that, why not port your c# idea to c for minetest? 23:59 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I'm looking at the minetest source right now 23:59 KingsleyT if it's a desired feature I'll gladly port it