Time Nick Message 00:03 VanessaE actually you three have done really nicely with that mod 00:03 VanessaE modpack* 00:04 jojoa1997 hi 00:04 Evergreen Oh, thank you VanessaE 00:04 VanessaE hi jojo 00:04 Evergreen Really, I haven't done too much on it. I need to get myself motivated to work on it 00:05 Evergreen Is there an api document in plantlife? I'd like to see it 00:05 jojoa1997 Evergreen i find motivation a hard thing to do when i am tired and have a good book to read. 00:05 jojoa1997 00:05 jojoa1997 oops and also when i am playing games 00:05 Evergreen ^true 00:06 VanessaE yes there is 00:06 VanessaE plantlife/API.txt :) 00:06 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/master/API.txt 00:08 jojoa1997 can anyone help me with git --config push.default matching 00:09 VanessaE not sure what that is 00:09 jojoa1997 happens when i do git push 00:11 VanessaE no clue 00:24 thefamilygrog66 stupid catchas 00:24 VanessaE hi 00:24 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks! 00:24 thefamilygrog66 took me three times typing in gibberish to get in here this evening 00:25 thefamilygrog66 and I'm STILL a spambot 00:25 VanessaE why not use a regular IRC client? 00:25 thefamilygrog66 lazy? 00:25 VanessaE heh 00:25 VanessaE get hexchat. 00:26 thefamilygrog66 I'm guessing I can't use Empathy for IRC... 00:27 VanessaE no clue 00:27 VanessaE never used that 00:27 thefamilygrog66 it's included with my ubuntu 00:28 VanessaE oh right 00:28 VanessaE well in that case use xchat 00:28 VanessaE which you probably already have 00:28 VanessaE I forgot you use ubuntu :) 00:28 thefamilygrog66 sudo apt-get install xchat 00:28 VanessaE +2 00:29 VanessaE xchat2 I think is the package name 00:29 thefamilygrog66 not included with this one 00:29 VanessaE huh 00:29 VanessaE well a quick apt-get will remedy that :) 00:29 thefamilygrog66 I'm running Zorin, cause I'm kinda windows-centric, you know 00:29 VanessaE I use XFCE :) 00:30 VanessaE zorin is a fork of ubuntu? 00:30 thefamilygrog66 yes, skinned with various OS choices 00:30 VanessaE ah 00:30 thefamilygrog66 e.g. win 7, xp, os10, etc 00:31 thefamilygrog66 unable to locate package xchat2 00:31 VanessaE ok try without the '2' then :) 00:32 thefamilygrog66 way ahead of ya, haha 00:33 thefamilygrog66 let's try this out 00:34 thefamilygrog66 is this thing on? 00:34 thefamilygrog66 testing 00:34 kaeza no 00:35 thefamilygrog66 damn 00:35 * thefamilygrog66 kinda misses the captchas 00:37 VanessaE it works :) 00:37 thefamilygrog66 apparently! 00:37 VanessaE once you get used to it, you'll curse the notion of using a browser to get onto chat :) 00:37 VanessaE you should register your nick also 00:38 VanessaE /ns help register 00:42 thefamilygrog66 -NickServ- thefamilygrog66 has now been verified. 00:42 * thefamilygrog66 is official 00:43 VanessaE now, Xchat -> Network List -> Freenode -> plug in your nickserv password there 00:43 thefamilygrog66 I have a hankering for online trivia, for some reason 00:45 thefamilygrog66 that trivia channel was lame 00:47 VanessaE heh 01:11 thefamilygrog66 .ping 01:12 VanessaE pong 01:12 thefamilygrog66 my ping was really slow on the trivia channel I was just on 01:12 thefamilygrog66 >1 second 01:13 thefamilygrog66 where's freenode located? 01:13 VanessaE not sure 01:13 VanessaE all over, I guess 01:14 VanessaE depends on which server you actually got on the rotation 01:14 thefamilygrog66 I see 01:14 thefamilygrog66 I'm guessing it's not in Canada, eh 01:15 Exio4 thefamilygrog66: there are servers in the US and there are servers in europe 01:15 Exio4 it isn't a single-country based network 02:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyIXOL2bsQI 02:38 VanessaE !title 02:38 MinetestBot VanessaE: 【東方MMD】ミニチャイナな華扇ちゃんでGet Up & Move!! - YouTube 02:39 kaeza dat title 02:39 NekoGloop >can display japanese characters but not & 02:39 VanessaE heh 02:41 arsdragonfly touhou fans here? :-P 02:41 * NekoGloop is the only touhou fan here 02:41 VanessaE noe 02:42 NekoGloop these people are too lame for touhou 02:42 VanessaE :P 02:53 thefamilygrog66 what the hell is a touhou? 02:54 VanessaE no clue 02:54 thefamilygrog66 yay, found time stamps 02:54 VanessaE the only japanese I know is Lolita and Sukiyaki :) 02:54 thefamilygrog66 akira 02:55 VanessaE that too 02:55 VanessaE (I wasn't counting anime in general :P ) 02:55 thefamilygrog66 I like J-Horror 02:55 thefamilygrog66 video games mainly though 02:57 thefamilygrog66 any freenode channel recommendations, aside from this one of course? 02:58 VanessaE Depends on how technical you wanna get :) 02:58 arsdragonfly #ubuntu if you find this channel mostly dead 02:58 VanessaE ##minebest is Oldcoder's channel, then there's #minetest-technic for code talk about that mod, and #minetest-dev for core engine talk 02:58 thefamilygrog66 cool 02:58 VanessaE you can also try irc.inchra.net #minetest , which is the channel for Kaeza's, ShadowNinja's, and my servers. 02:59 VanessaE (connected to the servers' chats via the IRC mod) 02:59 thefamilygrog66 is it possible to connect to more than one irc server using xchat? 02:59 VanessaE sure 03:00 VanessaE just open the server list again and connect to another server 03:00 kaeza I don't think Inchra is in xchat's list though 03:00 VanessaE it'll connect to as many servers and/or channels as you want. 03:00 VanessaE no, it isn't 03:00 VanessaE you'll have to add that one 03:02 thefamilygrog66 hmm it didn't like irc.inchra.net 03:02 kaeza oh, irc.inchra.net is down afaik 03:02 kaeza use horus.inchra.net 03:04 thefamilygrog66 that worked 03:17 VanessaE bbl, bedtime 03:17 VanessaE night all 04:05 stormchaser3000 hi 04:06 stormchaser3000 :( 04:06 Menche hello 04:06 stormchaser3000 hi 04:08 stormchaser3000 i am on menche.us 04:08 stormchaser3000 with an updated client 04:54 ndjdjksisksk ok just a sec 04:54 ndjdjksisksk i am stormchaser3000 04:55 stormchaser3000 hi 04:55 stormchaser3000 lol 05:01 stormchaser3000 hey dark are you on 05:02 stormchaser3000 darkrose? 05:02 Menche she's on #minetest-classic 05:02 stormchaser3000 oh ok 05:03 VanessaE hi 05:03 VanessaE can't sleep :-/ 05:03 stormchaser3000 :( 05:03 stormchaser3000 that is not good 05:03 VanessaE eh, it's a thing with me sometimes 05:04 stormchaser3000 me to 05:04 VanessaE too* 05:04 arsdragonfly it's 13:04 here now,and I'm feeling tired after lunch :-( 05:05 stormchaser3000 tit's 12:05 here AM 05:05 VanessaE 1:05a here 05:05 stormchaser3000 oh lol 05:05 stormchaser3000 sam etimezone 05:05 stormchaser3000 same* 05:06 stormchaser3000 time zone* 05:07 stormchaser3000 hi 05:11 * Menche is playing Candy Box 2 05:13 stormchaser3000 lol 05:51 sandman Can anyone recommend an easy way to remove all unused objects in a world? 05:53 Menche the /clearobjecs command will remove all objects 05:53 Menche /clearobjects rather 05:53 Menche typo 05:53 NakedFury it can crash servers 05:53 Menche it may take a while, depending on the size of the world, and will freeze the server while working. 05:59 VanessaE bbl 06:15 nore hi all 06:26 arsdragonfly sandman:use the latest builds to run that command. 0.4.7 stable has a heavy memory usage on /clearobjects 06:35 sandman It sounds like it clears all objects. I just want to clear unused ones 06:36 Menche what do you mean by "unused"? 06:38 sandman Well, I enabled a mod that created a bunch of objects. I've since disabled said mod. Now there's a bunch of "unused node"-type messages and blocks around 06:38 sandman I'd like to remove them =) I don't really want to re-make the world, as I've put a lot of work into it since my last backup 06:39 sandman Trying to make Neuschwanstein Castle =) 06:41 Menche oh, unknown nodes 06:41 Menche the term "object" usually refers to an item without a fixed location, like a dropped tool, player, or mob. 06:42 Menche I think someone made a mod that has an ABM that can be configured to remove unknown nodes 07:09 kaeza this one perhaps? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2777 08:17 sfan5 hi everyone 08:18 sfan5 !seen jordach 08:18 MinetestBot sfan5: jordach was last seen at 2013-10-24 20:25:56 UTC on #minetest 08:19 nore hi sfan5 08:37 kaeza hi sfan 08:43 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy (or should that be grumpy?) Sourest Day! :-D 10:02 Dan_D I know that there was someone who had a server which had turrets, if I remember right they only shot at people who weren't the placer. Can the person who made that adaption please look at my turret code in the camo_modpack, and tell me how to change ot so that is also the case with my turrets, and also the intruder alarm? Thanks. 10:05 Dan_D I would be grateful. 10:13 Dan_D Anyone? 10:16 arsdragonfly ? 10:19 Dan_D 'D> I know that there was someone who had a server which had turrets, if I remember right they only shot at people who weren't the placer. Can the person who made that adaption please look at my turret code in the camo_modpack, and tell me how to change ot so that is also the case with my turrets, and also the intruder alarm? Thanks.' 10:20 arsdragonfly IIRC turrets in landrush server occasionally soot their owners 10:20 arsdragonfly *shoot 10:21 Dan_D But on mine they shoot any player ever 10:21 Dan_D And chances are, kill them 10:21 Dan_D The only escape is to nowwhere near them,defeating the point 10:22 Dan_D Oh well, at least I got the ownership thing where they are only dug by their owners 10:22 Dan_D Bye then 11:47 Wuzzy In an ABM, there is a parameter called “func” and this shall be a function with some parameters. There is also a parameter “node” mentioned — what exactly is this parameter supposed to mean? 11:49 Wuzzy Is this just the usual node definition or something else? 11:51 Wuzzy Never mind, I just found it out by myself. :P 12:26 Evergreen 'Ello everyone 12:28 reactor o/ 12:28 reactor Evergreen: why aren't you deciduous instead? 13:11 sfan5 plol! I crashed our router by sending 4032 A's into a field that was supposed to have maximum 64 chars 13:39 reactor ? 13:39 reactor sfan5: what kind of router? 13:40 reactor Consumer-grade or normal? 13:40 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:44 reactor Hello PlizAdam. 14:10 reactor john_minetest: hell. I hope you're "everybody else", too. 14:13 reactor lol @ the 'exploded' comment 14:14 reactor What are the species? 14:14 sfan5 reactor: define "consumer-grade" 14:14 reactor Eh. 14:15 reactor sfan5: that ones sold in so called "computer shops" 14:15 sfan5 well 14:15 reactor that almost always implies "crappy" 14:16 sfan5 its' this one http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/t-com/spw303v 14:16 sfan5 s/s'/'s/ 14:16 reactor For instance, my modem won't attempt to reconnect ADSL line if it's dropped. Because it's crap. 14:16 reactor You have OpenWRT on it? 14:17 reactor That might make it better. 14:17 reactor I would try to install it here, if not for ADSL support. 14:17 sfan5 no, I don't have openwrt 14:17 reactor Oh. 14:21 reactor SpaceCore: you're not going to space. 14:22 reactor john_minetest: btw, how's that dude without internet access? 14:22 SpaceCore reactor: :< 14:22 reactor john_minetest: they whitelist _destination_ ports? I could map it to port 80 eh. 14:22 reactor SpaceCore: >:( 14:23 reactor john_minetest: we don't need to know outgoing port 14:23 reactor john_minetest: if they whitelist, they should whitelist destination server ports 14:23 reactor not clients' ports 14:23 reactor because clients ports vary 14:24 reactor Okay, tell me your version. 14:24 reactor Dude. 14:25 reactor _outgoing_ ports are widely randomised 14:25 reactor they might even not match between programs using the same protocol 14:26 Warr1024 most stateful NAT routers I've seen will create the necessary reverse mapping for UDP traffic from a random source pot. 14:26 Warr1024 s/(..)$/r$1/ 14:28 reactor Kernighan, Ritchie. The C Programming Language 14:29 PilzAdam bbl 14:38 zat NSFW: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1379749_600372896693555_526708536_n.jpg 14:39 * Evergreen is back 14:39 reactor zat: quantum mechanics. 14:39 zat portals are for fap 14:39 reactor Evergreen: I will make you become deciduous. 14:40 reactor zat: I mean, according to quantum mechanics, object of observation is affected by observer 14:40 Evergreen Never! I will always be an evergreen tree 14:41 reactor Evergreen: choose: defoliants or napalm? 14:41 reactor s/nts/nt/ 14:42 zat reactor: fap fap fap 14:42 Evergreen No 14:42 * Evergreen falls over on top of reactor 14:42 reactor zat: whatever you're into, mate. 14:42 Evergreen It was worth it 14:42 reactor Ooch! Aw! It wasn't! 14:42 reactor This sucked! It wasn't! 14:42 reactor Bunghole. 14:43 reactor s/Oo/Ou/ 14:45 Evergreen plol 14:46 Evergreen why are you so bent on taking my leaves? :P 14:47 reactor Because. 14:47 reactor Idk. 14:47 reactor I'm an analytical kind of person. I like taking things apart rather than putting them together. 14:49 reactor And that. 14:49 reactor So I'm taking you apart, Evergreen, to build my own tree. 14:49 reactor Hope you don't mind. 14:49 Evergreen Just get a sapling 14:49 * reactor cranks up the chainsaw 14:50 * Evergreen gives reactor a sapling 14:50 Evergreen Now wait about 20 years 14:50 * reactor saws john_minetest apart. 14:51 reactor For reverse engineering. 14:51 reactor Now I can build my own john_minetest, I guess. 14:51 reactor Evergreen: thanks, mate. 14:52 * john_minetest takes apart reactor 14:53 reactor You couldn't. You were already dead. 14:54 reactor OldCoder: why don't you upgrade and become NewCoder? 14:54 reactor I didn't say I have. 14:54 reactor had* 14:55 OldCoder Hi! 14:55 reactor Hello. 14:55 OldCoder reactor, It is... actually an interesting thought 14:55 Warr1024 how old do you have to be to be an OldCoder around here anyway? 14:55 reactor NewCoder: why don't you downgrade and become OldCoder? 14:55 NewCoder Warr1024, It is relative. reactor I will, later. 14:55 NewCoder reactor, thank you for the thoughts. 14:56 reactor Nothing. 14:56 Warr1024 hell, I might be an OldCoder of sorts myself. 14:56 reactor john_minetest: how does it feel like, being dead? 14:58 reactor !title 14:58 MinetestBot reactor: The Beatles - She said she said - lyrics HD - YouTube 14:58 reactor Good. 14:59 reactor I finally see someone who has good taste. 15:00 reactor I have no flash at the moment -_- 15:01 reactor (I'm deprecating it in the future, anyway) 15:01 reactor Yes. 15:01 reactor Getting rid of. 15:01 reactor As in, using chainsaw upon. 15:02 reactor And burying in outdoor shitter. 15:02 reactor Part by part. 15:03 reactor bloody flash is everywhere 15:04 reactor it's probably more painful 15:04 Warr1024 A chainsaw's combat value is primarily theatrical. 15:04 reactor Warr1024: it is. 15:05 reactor john_minetest: how about knives vs that clothing? 15:05 reactor Warr1024: it's probably good if you're trying to scare off a bunch of unarmed rednecks. 15:05 reactor oh 15:07 reactor Also, a saw that is powerful enough will cut through the cloth. 15:08 reactor (c) Wikipedia 15:09 reactor Warr1024: it's also good for executing dangerous people. 15:10 reactor Would make the punishment gorier and more painful, scaring those who are going to commit same kind of crimes. 15:11 Warr1024 Chainsaws are OK for slow-moving zombies. Axes are preferred for fast-moving ones. 15:11 reactor Heh. 15:12 reactor Good point. 15:12 Warr1024 The benefit of using a chainsaw on the slow-moving ones is saving your stamina. Swinging a axe repeatedly is exhausting. 15:12 reactor "Wendy! Stop swinging the bat!" 15:13 reactor john_minetest: btw, facility? 15:14 reactor mk 15:15 reactor It takes many hours of training to learn operating them. 15:15 Jordach A sword is only as good as the wielder 15:15 reactor They're usually rather blunt. 15:15 Jordach a light sword will do no damage 15:15 Evergreen Oh hey Jordach 15:15 reactor john_minetest: if you decapitate it, it won't 15:16 Evergreen Imo, I think I would go with a medium length blade in an apocalypse 15:16 reactor john_minetest: but its bodily fluids might be infectious 15:16 Evergreen very sharp of course 15:16 Warr1024 someone needs to invent a sort of wind-up spring-loaded blade specifically for zombie decapitation. 15:16 NewCoder Sounds efficient 15:16 Warr1024 requiring less skill than manual blades, and without the ammo limitations of a shotgun. 15:16 Warr1024 this could be a very lucrative patent. 15:17 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/MCAdg 15:17 Jordach gold 15:17 Jordach Evergreen, hey 15:17 reactor john_minetest: if it's moving fast enough 15:18 reactor john_minetest: depends entirely on the operator 15:18 reactor Most people don't have necessary muscle. 15:18 Warr1024 chainsaws also require fuel. Hard to mix gasoline and 2-stroke engine oil in the correct proportion when dozens of undead are shambling your way... 15:18 IceCraft hi 15:20 Jordach john_minetest, a better option is bullets 15:20 Jordach lots and lots of bullets 15:20 Jordach effective, clean 15:21 reactor john_minetest: I've agreed to that above. 15:21 reactor Jordach: it's hard to aim. 15:21 Jordach john_minetest, a sledgehammer with a broadsword is good, you've got the weight of the sledge, and the slice of a sword 15:22 reactor Beside, guns need to be kept clean. 15:22 Jordach (eg, stick em together) 15:22 reactor In an apocalyptic situation, it'll be hard to find gun maintenance things. 15:22 reactor Jordach: that would also get you tired fast. 15:23 Jordach reactor, not if you're strong 15:23 reactor john_minetest: as in? 15:23 reactor Why do they clean AK's every time they've been shot? 15:23 reactor s/shot/fired/ 15:23 Jordach btw, an ak is the most effective in a zombie apocalypse btw 15:23 reactor john_minetest: also, they're gas-operated. 15:24 Warr1024 just because you can fire a gun full of mud doesn't make it a good idea. 15:24 reactor john_minetest: so they totally need to be cleaned often 15:24 reactor they do 15:25 reactor they do, but they won't last long 15:25 reactor of course you can fire it muddy in emergency 15:25 sfan5[Mac] meow 15:25 reactor but you can't expect it wor work every time 15:25 reactor sfan5[Mac]: bark! 15:25 sfan5[Mac] meow! 15:25 reactor "me owns" 15:25 * Jordach pets sfan5[Mac] 15:26 * sfan5[Mac] purrs 15:26 sfan5 woops.. 15:26 reactor whoops 15:26 reactor john_minetest: not a long time 15:26 reactor probably a magazine 15:26 sfan5[Mac] meow 15:27 reactor and it's worn as hell 15:27 sfan5[Mac] imma kitten 15:27 reactor because mud is abrasive 15:27 reactor true 15:27 reactor but eh. 15:27 reactor I wouldn't fire a gun full of dirt just because. 15:28 Jordach btw, don't hide in a bunker 15:28 Warr1024 unless your target were highly succeptible to dirt damage. 15:28 Jordach ha 15:28 Warr1024 then a gun full of dirt would be your best option. 15:29 Jordach john_minetest, no emergency escape and a one way entrance 15:29 reactor Jordach: right... let's all die under bombs 15:30 reactor Jordach: or from radioactive dust 15:30 Jordach john_minetest, a backup (large crawlable vent) would be good to hide in 15:30 Jordach because afaik, zombies cant crawl 15:31 reactor or if they've fallen 15:31 Jordach but the ones that broke through will probably be standing 15:32 reactor in a real situation, yes 15:32 reactor because I don't think real zombies would be able to use items 15:33 reactor idk 15:33 reactor they have to be deteriorated to the point reasoning doesn't work 15:36 reactor otherwise they would not attack everything that moves 15:36 reactor Calinou: o/ 15:38 Calinou hi :) 15:39 reactor mk 15:39 Jordach VanessaE, nice post ;) 15:40 Jordach john_minetest, have you been playing 7 days to die by chance 15:41 Calinou desktop now on xubuntu 13.10 :) 15:41 Jordach did you mean: OS X 10.9 :P 15:41 Calinou I used command line upgrade, no issues, had to fix the sound indicator like on netbook though 15:41 Jordach it;s a free upgrade 15:41 Calinou but the OS isn't free :phoronix rolleyes: 15:42 reactor Oh come on. Ubuntu. 15:42 Jordach and neither is your computer parts 15:42 Jordach so open source isnt true open source 15:42 Jordach just because of the hardware 15:42 Jordach (RMS would be shitting bricks :P ) 15:42 FreeFull I've been having much luck with æłeđø→ħ« as my OS 15:43 Jordach todays xkcd: the monty hall problem 15:43 Jordach i'd take the goat over the car 15:43 Jordach because i don't like mowing the lawn 15:43 reactor john_minetest: RMS? 15:44 Warr1024 root mean squared 15:44 Calinou reactor: xubuntu ;) 15:44 FreeFull Republik Maluku Selatan 15:44 reactor 21:43 < john_minetest> RMS uses a computer with free hardware. 15:44 Calinou it's recognized by canonical but is non-commercial, and community-developed 15:44 reactor Oh 15:44 reactor john_minetest: what is that computer? 15:44 Jordach Evergreen, beep boop beep 15:45 Calinou john_minetest: free hardware would be free CPU/GPU/RAM and all that 15:45 reactor Yes. 15:45 reactor He probably meant he got them for free, and that's it.\ 15:45 Calinou yey, TF2 and trackmania still work 15:45 Evergreen Jordach, bop beep boop 15:46 Evergreen trackmania ftw 15:46 Jordach Evergreen, you should know what i mean :D 15:46 reactor Mkay. 15:47 markveidemanis Hi 15:47 reactor markveidemanis: o/ 15:48 reactor john_minetest: ? 15:48 reactor john_minetest: cracked or legal? 15:48 reactor Oh. Pardon. 15:48 markveidemanis lol 15:48 markveidemanis all mine are 15:48 Jordach some of my discs are 15:48 reactor Uh. Okay. 15:48 Warr1024 RMS definition of "Free Software" includes all software that runs on any microprocessor on the machine, including the BIOS (which runs on main CPU) and any device firmware (that runs on device processors). Does NOT include full specs for the hardware, beyond what its software interfaces. 15:49 markveidemanis What are you paying for? 15:49 markveidemanis A stream of electrical pulses 15:49 reactor I don't play games for enough time to consider buying any. 15:49 markveidemanis im gonna buy minetest soon 15:49 reactor :) 15:49 markveidemanis No, il pirate it 15:49 Warr1024 is it even possible to pirate minetest? 15:50 markveidemanis It is 15:50 markveidemanis Get a cracked client 15:50 Warr1024 ha 15:50 markveidemanis Thats all im going to say 15:50 Warr1024 Is MT GPL or a more permissive license? 15:50 reactor submissive license 15:51 Warr1024 if it's GPL, you can "pirate" it by distributing a modified version without source. 15:51 markveidemanis Could someone help me with the spawn on my legit server in minetest 15:51 reactor markveidemanis: use hammer. 15:51 markveidemanis Hammer 15:51 Warr1024 I'm a fan of MIT or ISC. 15:51 Warr1024 I like ISC's wording better, but MIT seems to be much more popular, and thus easier to interoperate. 15:52 Calinou Minetest is LGPL for code and CC BY-SA strictest for art 15:52 Warr1024 I think zlib, apache, MIT, ISC, and BSD 2-clause are all very similar? 15:52 Warr1024 ah, so distributing a cracked MT might not be piracy. 15:53 Warr1024 unless the "crack" is tightly integrated into the original code. 15:53 Warr1024 Is it just me, or didn't you used to be able to make charcoal by cooking logs in a furnace? 15:54 Warr1024 yeah, I allow commercial reuse of my code too. 15:55 Warr1024 not so much to encourage commercial adoption as from lack of giving a damn. 15:56 FreeFull Warr1024: I think charcoal might have gotten taken out, not sure 15:56 Warr1024 aw 15:56 FreeFull SDL went from GPLv2 to zlib when it went from 1.x to 2.x 15:57 FreeFull Actually, not GPLv2, but LGPL 15:57 reactor What? He uses firefox? 15:57 reactor For IRC? 15:57 reactor That's so lame. 15:57 FreeFull The LGPL has some restrictions that makes static linking SDL into your program legally iffy. zlib is more permissive 15:57 FreeFull reactor: Chatzilla isn't that bad 15:58 Jordach like the local bitch 15:58 reactor It is. 15:58 Calinou people talking about Minetest in #defocus, seems legit 15:58 reactor Because the last thing IRC needs is GUI. 15:58 Jordach Calinou, say #minetest NOW 15:58 Calinou done 15:58 Jordach also: pastie logs 15:58 Calinou you're not in #defocus? thought you were 16:00 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115642#p115642 16:02 Warr1024 anyone know if there's an existing hook for when one of a node's neighbors gets updated? 16:29 VanessaE hi 18:06 kaeza evenings 18:10 PilzAdam hey 18:13 Jordach OH SWEET FUCKING JESUS 18:13 Jordach BEST DLC EVER 18:14 Jordach HOLY SHIT - the endling of Saints Row 4 is awesome 18:14 Jordach (the DLC anyways) 18:14 Evergreen ^ For what game? ;) 18:14 Evergreen ninja'd 18:14 Jordach you RIDE A VELOCIRAPTOR 18:14 PilzAdam apparently it breaks your capslock key too 18:16 Jordach ctrl + backspace crashes quassel 18:21 Jordach Evergreen, server will stay down for an hour, jordach@/Firebomb/ is overheating 18:22 Jordach and i need a break :D 18:25 Jordach brb 18:38 thexyz then why you no have linux? 18:40 PilzAdam "If you came here because http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2876, please note that this is not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Wikipedia contributors." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest 18:43 thexyz lol fug them 18:44 thexyz stupid deletionists 18:44 PilzAdam there are still Minetest articles in the german, russina, french and chinese wikipedia 18:44 PilzAdam *russian 18:45 thexyz aaaand now check the russian page 18:45 Warr1024 If that's the way they wanna play it, someone should delete the page for "Wikipedia" on the Minetest Wiki. :-) 18:46 PilzAdam there is a big red box at the top 18:46 thexyz Warr1024: "not notable" 18:46 thexyz I like the idea though 18:46 Warr1024 thexyz: noted. 18:48 thexyz Warr1024: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wikipedia 18:50 Warr1024 nice 18:50 thexyz that'll show them! 18:50 Warr1024 so what does "notable" mean anyway? 18:51 Warr1024 I can't imagine that they're disputing one's ability to note minetest... 18:51 thexyz it's a buzzword 18:52 JackGruff buzzword is a buzzword 18:54 thexyz and then it'll be deleted again; moreover there's one page in user namespace 18:54 Warr1024 So I guess minetest is notable, only not to English speakers? 18:58 thexyz john_minetest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest 18:58 Jordach hand me a few servers, a few wordpresses -- i could in theory make a shit ton of fake content in an hour 18:59 Jordach ...notable now assholes? 18:59 thexyz wow so much hate 18:59 Jordach all i can see in that discussion is this guy saying it doesnt meed standards: when i read the page it was fine 18:59 Jordach (the rubenwardy page) 19:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, note that the german article is a translation of the english one 19:03 Jordach i've found 6 minetest reviews 19:05 PilzAdam or we get Minetest really popular, but wont re-create the wikipedia article 19:05 PilzAdam then everyone who wants to read about the famous Minetest in wikipedia wonders why its not notable 19:06 Jordach +1 19:06 Jordach then let the shit storm happen 19:07 Jordach how about we release 0.4.8 19:07 Jordach (c'mon, im bored of fuckin waiting) 19:07 PilzAdam while (minetest.getPopilarity() < over 900) sleep(50); endwhile 19:07 PilzAdam -typo 19:08 khonkhortisan getPopilarity: not declared 19:08 Warr1024 Jordach: just play the git version :-/ 19:08 khonkhortisan We source downloaders don't care about releases 19:08 PilzAdam well, in theory there are people downloading stable release sources 19:09 Warr1024 it's tricky 19:09 PilzAdam there is a reason why we tag releases 19:09 Warr1024 if you're writing a mod, you need to track the latest dev head to make sure that there aren't breaking changes coming in the next rlease 19:09 Warr1024 but players on non-build-from-source platforms (*ahem* windows *ahem*) will generally stick with releases. 19:09 PilzAdam generally you can say that the API will never break 19:10 PilzAdam if you find a case where it is broken, feel free to start a shitstorm at #minetest-dev 19:10 PilzAdam (forward compatibility, that is) 19:10 Warr1024 I haven't seen any really blatant breakage 19:11 Warr1024 but then again, writing a mod for the old release means you can't play with the new upcoming features :-) 19:12 Warr1024 though I guess I might be thinking more about a port maintainer than a mod author. 19:15 Warr1024 one thing I've noticed that a certain other digging-themed game has that doesn't feel as smooth in MT is inventory management. 19:15 Warr1024 the slots feel small, and the gaps between too big, so I occasionally drop stuff between and it doesn't register 19:16 Warr1024 and I find myself wishing I could shift+click or ctrl+shift+click to move between inventories. 19:17 Warr1024 Is there any reason why something like that can't or shouldn't be added, or is this a "contributions welcome" sort of area? 19:18 thexyz yay! 19:18 PilzAdam we always have the challenge to make it reasonable in the API 19:18 thexyz it's the time to make another "contributions welcome" fork! 19:19 PilzAdam I was thinking about a "move-to" field in the list element in the formspec 19:19 Warr1024 I guess I'll have to play with formspecs a bit more. 19:20 PilzAdam Warr1024, Id recommend brainfuck, its easier 19:20 Warr1024 ha 19:20 PilzAdam the only thing on earth that is worth than formspec strings is json 19:21 Warr1024 I guess it sort of depends on whether we do this as a client-side thing (user shift-clicks, and the client translates it into a series of click-to-move actions) 19:21 Warr1024 or if it's purely a server-side thing (shift-click is sent to server, server resolves the actions in terms of inventories instead of formspec elements, then sends updated content t oclient) 19:22 sfan5 wow 19:22 Warr1024 I'd hope that at least making it easier to drop items into an inventory slot, and harder to miss and hit the spaces between, shouldn't be too hard... 19:22 PilzAdam this brings us to the point that we need better prediction of inventory movements and crafting in the client 19:22 SmugLeaf 15:35:34 < Jordach> my dad shot down a pigeon and there's an advert in the UK called funky pigeon where he rides a purple motorcycle; hilarity ensues: 19:22 SmugLeaf DAT MOPED 19:22 Warr1024 you are rapidly taking this conversation over my head, PilzAdam :-) 19:22 sfan5 I think that were the most platforms I ever built one thing for... (just released vesion 0.1.9 of my spk format) 19:22 Jordach SmugLeaf, dat copy 19:23 SmugLeaf woah I was scrolled up 19:23 SmugLeaf like 19:23 SmugLeaf shit 19:24 PilzAdam Warr1024, Id rather point you to these todo-things in that area now, rather when you wasted some actual time on coding a useless thing :-) 19:24 Warr1024 true dat 19:24 Warr1024 is there some master wishlist? 19:24 Warr1024 or is github issues the best place to dig? 19:24 sfan5 github issues 19:25 PilzAdam the github issue tracker is quite arbitrary 19:25 PilzAdam random people can write random things in there 19:25 PilzAdam !dev todo 19:25 thexyz lol no 19:25 thexyz stupid useless bot 19:26 jojoa1997 hi 19:26 MinetestBot sfan5: FIXME! 19:27 Miner_48er john_minetest kingArthur 19:27 VanessaE anyone who grants interact by default is just asking for trouble.... 19:28 Miner_48er no have to register on there website 19:28 VanessaE their* 19:28 PilzAdam Im actually quite curious how a pilztest survival server would work with interact by default on a server 19:29 eythen king-arthur isnt for fun??? ;) wierd ... well king-arthur's server builds stay ;) 19:29 PilzAdam are griefers patient enough to break nodes in pilztest? 19:29 PilzAdam I mean, it takes about 5 minutes to be able to break dirt 19:30 VanessaE john_minetest: you're welcome to build in any style you want on my servers of course. 19:30 PilzAdam .... and I still need a real name for pilztest 19:30 Warr1024 pilztest isn't a real enough name? :-) 19:34 Jordach john_minetest, MT nostaligia 19:34 Jordach i built something like that there :P 19:34 Jordach vanessae.mine.bz 30002 19:35 Jordach john_minetest, i'd help out, if my vps fucking arrived 19:36 kaeza MT Nostalgia is pretty light 19:36 kaeza tries to emulate 0.3.x gameplay 19:37 Calinou .... and I still need a real name for pilztest 19:37 Calinou mushroomtest 19:37 thexyz +1 19:38 Jordach boringtest :D 19:39 PilzAdam Testtest 19:39 VanessaE heh 19:39 * Jordach keeps waiting for the VPS 19:39 Jordach then it's time to setup VNC and xfce 19:40 Jordach and iceweasel *sigh* 19:40 thexyz xfce on vps? wat 19:40 Jordach thexyz, it works for me 19:40 thexyz fuck 19:40 thexyz fuck 19:40 PilzAdam windows user needs gui 19:40 thexyz well, that'll be hilarious 19:41 Jordach PilzAdam, im a lazy person, and a lazy person gets things done fastewr 19:41 Jordach faster* 19:41 thexyz lol 19:41 thexyz you don't even 19:41 PilzAdam Jordach, CLI is faster than GUI 19:41 thexyz you don't have an idea how wrong you are 19:41 thexyz or you're trolling 19:41 PilzAdam generally, no exception 19:41 thexyz (which I doubt, tbh) 19:42 thexyz hmmm.. okay, Jordach, what do you plan to use it for? 19:42 Jordach minetest. 19:42 thexyz lol 19:42 thexyz okay, and why do you need xfce? also, what specs does it have? 19:44 thexyz Jordach: ^ 19:46 thexyz don't pretend you aren't here 19:47 sfan5 MinetestBot: FIXYOU! 19:49 MinetestBot sfan5: give me the ability to do that! 19:50 sfan5 MinetestBot: read a python tutorial and then fix yourself 19:50 sfan5 !dev TODO 19:50 sfan5 hm :-/ 19:51 stormchaser3000 hi 19:51 stormchaser3000 hi 19:51 stormchaser3000 lol 19:51 sfan5 what is wrong with you? 19:52 sfan5 what is wrong with you? 19:52 sfan5 lol 19:52 stormchaser3000 lol 19:52 stormchaser3000 spams lol 50000 times and gets kicked by shadow bot 19:52 sfan5 haha 19:53 stormchaser3000 lol 19:53 PilzAdam its funny how 50% of the conversation consists of "lol" 19:53 PilzAdam its funny how 50% of the conversation consists of "lol" 19:53 PilzAdam lol 19:53 stormchaser3000 lol 19:54 sfan5 no 19:54 sfan5 no 19:54 sfan5 lol 19:54 stormchaser3000 ok what server 19:54 stormchaser3000 ok what server 19:54 stormchaser3000 lol 19:55 PilzAdam john_minetest, I thought about a flashmob in a server once 19:55 PilzAdam but I think there arent enough people 19:55 thexyz okay, for one moment I thought something weird happened to my irssi 19:55 stormchaser3000 that woul dbe awesome 19:55 stormchaser3000 would* 19:55 stormchaser3000 be* 19:55 sfan5 hahaha 19:56 PilzAdam wow, 100 people here 19:56 PilzAdam (we just ignore the 3 bots ;-)) 19:57 sfan5 !devwiki test 19:57 thexyz seriously? devwiki instead of dev? 19:58 thexyz and the reason is..? 19:58 sfan5 you can use !dev !devwik or !devwiki 19:59 stormchaser3000 hmm sfan i am going to join you rsurvival server 20:00 stormchaser3000 oh wait is it up? 20:00 sfan5 nope, I deleted it 20:00 stormchaser3000 i can't fin dit on the list 20:00 stormchaser3000 :( 20:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, +1 20:00 stormchaser3000 i could tell 20:00 stormchaser3000 sorry bu tthat server lagge a lot 20:01 stormchaser3000 it woul take me 1 minute to load 1 chunk of land 20:01 stormchaser3000 and the hunger games server lagges raely badly to 20:02 stormchaser3000 hmmm server 20:02 stormchaser3000 lol redcrab.suret.net port 30401 20:02 sfan5 stormchaser3000: maybe it is your internet 20:03 sfan5 the hunger games server is hosted with 1,6MB/s down and 160KB/s up 20:03 stormchaser3000 good point i have 14.7 kb a sec internet 20:03 sfan5 then it is your internet 20:04 thexyz > 160KB/s up 20:04 thexyz nigga 20:04 proller sky ready for anything 20:04 thexyz sky server is pretty fun, actually 20:05 stormchaser3000 i am logging in to redcrab.suret.net with prolers client 20:06 sfan5 "proler" 20:08 proller thexyz, * now with cave trees ;) 20:10 proller peoples requesting more cave life, like glowing mushrooms 20:11 proller now too dark by default 20:12 stormchaser3000 ok proller 20:12 sfan5 glowing mushrooms <3 20:12 sfan5 !devwiki TODO 20:12 MinetestBot "Configure button is totally broken" - http://dev.minetest.net/TODO 20:12 sfan5 why does this work now? 20:13 stormchaser3000 the only server i cannot get on with your fork is kaeza's survival server 20:14 kaeza pong 20:14 stormchaser3000 oh ans kaeza am i banned from your server i cannot get on 20:15 stormchaser3000 it disconnects me 20:15 kaeza hm? 20:15 VanessaE if you were banned, it would tell you so 20:15 stormchaser3000 and then my internet glitches up and i hav eto restart my computer 20:15 VanessaE your OS is busted. 20:15 VanessaE fix it. 20:15 stormchaser3000 no it never tells me about being abnned 20:15 VanessaE your OS is busted. 20:15 VanessaE fix it. 20:15 stormchaser3000 good point it is 20:15 stormchaser3000 i am using windows 8 20:16 Jordach stormchaser3000, your internet speed is your problem 20:16 Jordach minetest needs way more than 15kb 20:16 stormchaser3000 (it glitches like f***ing crud) 20:17 stormchaser3000 i want to install linux 20:17 sfan5 then do that 20:17 stormchaser3000 i sthere a way to do that 20:17 stormchaser3000 i don't kno whow to 20:17 stormchaser3000 ima download linux ubuntu when i get to 20:17 stormchaser3000 aka like tomarow 20:18 sfan5 use xubuntu it is way better than ubuntu 20:18 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friend.™ 20:18 stormchaser3000 when my internet speeds up to like to like 500 something kb a asec 20:18 stormchaser3000 second* 20:19 stormchaser3000 hmmmi will lobrb 20:19 stormchaser3000 brb 20:19 stormchaser3000 sorry 20:19 stormchaser3000 my laptop is almost out of battary 20:19 iqualfragile lulz 20:19 iqualfragile 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=65535 ttl=50 time=31.0 ms 20:19 iqualfragile 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=26.2 ms 20:20 Jordach i smell a netbook 20:20 Jordach NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 20:21 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 20:21 sfan5 YES! 20:21 sfan5 PilzAdam: fixed !devwiki 20:22 VanessaE iqualfragile: great, now the Googleplex has your IP address :P 20:25 * MinetestBot meows at Jordach 20:28 stormchaser3000 ok back 20:29 stormchaser3000 sfan how do i install xubuntu 20:30 VanessaE burn the image to a USB stick, boot, click "Install Xubuntu", use some common sense when answering questions. 20:30 sfan5 go into control panel -> system and look if you see 64-bit there 20:30 VanessaE 30-45 mins later: done! 20:30 stormchaser3000 i know 20:30 VanessaE oh, wubi? :P 20:30 stormchaser3000 i use a 64 bit system 20:30 stormchaser3000 i have an acer i3 core 20:30 stormchaser3000 64bit laptop 20:30 sfan5 stormchaser3000: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.10/release/xubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso 20:31 sfan5 burn that to a dvd and boot from it 20:31 sfan5 use http://cdburnerxp.se/en/home if you don't have a program to burn dvds 20:34 stormchaser3000 i don't have any dvds 20:34 stormchaser3000 :( 20:34 stormchaser3000 i have cds 20:34 VanessaE write the image to CD then 20:34 stormchaser3000 ok 20:34 VanessaE if it'll fit 20:34 stormchaser3000 when i get home 20:34 stormchaser3000 i am in a car right now 20:34 VanessaE use the "alternate" install image if you have to 20:35 VanessaE are you driving? 20:35 stormchaser3000 no 20:35 VanessaE ok 20:35 stormchaser3000 my mom is 20:35 sfan5 stormchaser3000: do you live in US or UK? 20:35 stormchaser3000 us 20:35 sfan5 hm 20:36 sfan5 the us mirror isn't updated yet 20:36 sfan5 get µTorrent and use http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/saucy/release/desktop/xubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent 20:36 Calinou xubuntu :D 20:36 stormchaser3000 ok so i use utorren tto download 20:40 pitriss sfan5: I got some idea.. Is possible to do that favorite list will remember also nickname last used on server? 20:40 sfan5 post that on the forum or talk about it in #minetest-dev 20:41 pitriss ok.. 20:41 roguejedi79 Recently installed rubenwardy's food mod on my server. Can not seem to find any recipe guides. Can any one point me in correct direction? 20:42 sfan5 !google food mod rubenwardy site:forum.minetest.net 20:42 sfan5 !g food mod rubenwardy site:forum.minetest.net 20:42 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2960&p=2 20:43 roguejedi79 Yes. Found that. Can't find recipe guide within the posts though 20:43 Evergreen He hasn't made it yet 20:43 Evergreen According to the topic 20:43 sfan5 roguejedi79: try reading the lines containing "register_craft" here https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/blob/master/init.lua#L125 20:44 VanessaE I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person who does good, comprehensive crafting guides for her mods... 20:44 Evergreen I do. :P 20:45 Evergreen I go to the trouble of taking a screenshot of every crafting recipe and crop it in gimp (plus some editing) 20:45 VanessaE ok you and I then :) 20:46 roguejedi79 That helps. What about a graphical guide for combining ingredients? 20:47 Evergreen IT appears he hasn't made one yet 20:47 Evergreen People: Be sure you have screenshots of all your crafting recipes before you post the topic 20:48 kaeza roguejedi79, see craft_guide or unified_inventory 20:48 Evergreen ^ 20:48 VanessaE Evergreen: and be sure you describe what goes into the recipe! 20:48 VanessaE not everyone can tell what each icon is 20:48 Evergreen I'll go ahead and do that 20:50 kaeza sfan5, maybe a !fs (forum search) command could be added that is the same as !g except it automatically adds site:forum.minetest.net ? 20:51 sfan5 notabadidea.tga 20:51 kaeza (assuming there is none already) 20:51 sfan5 no 20:51 sfan5 we have 20:51 sfan5 !sfu celeron* 20:51 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 355 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2 20:51 MinetestBot Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 | id: 2834 20:51 sfan5 but that search users 20:52 Warr1024 it seems as though you can place a node into another node of the same type, if they're buildable_to,and it destroys the node you're replacing, consuming one from your inventory. 20:53 Warr1024 doesn't it seem as though the default behavior should be to refuse to replace the node in question if the node type is already the same as the one you're replacing? 20:53 kaeza Warr1024, that depends 20:53 Warr1024 like, I have wheat seeds 20:53 Warr1024 I right-click on some farm land and plant one 20:53 kaeza grass is 6 nodes or so actually 20:53 Warr1024 then, if I mis-click and replace the original one, it wastes a seed. 20:53 VanessaE kaeza: I think he means if get_node().name == itemstack.name 20:54 Warr1024 yeah 20:54 VanessaE (well, that's not syntactically correct) 20:54 Warr1024 even if you wanted to "reconfigure" the node, e.g. with the grass having different heights, it would be nice if it didn't destroy one. 20:54 kaeza VanessaE, I got that part 20:54 MinetestBot jmf Member 161 posts, registered on 2012-11-05 | id: 3464 20:55 kaeza but when you place grass (for example), it randomly picks one if grass_1 grass_5 (or so) 20:55 MinetestBot kaeza Moderator 1,369 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279 20:55 kaeza s/if/of/ 20:55 Warr1024 kaeza: you mean the node names are different, and that's not juse a param? 20:56 Warr1024 well, maybe matching node_name could be the default logic, and special code could be used for interchangeable stuff like grass... 20:56 kaeza Warr1024, I mean that some nodes/items use special handling to "place" themselves 20:56 kaeza it's doable of course 20:56 Warr1024 maybe this isn't so much an issue in MT as in the farming mod in MT_game... 20:57 Warr1024 where else is buildable_to used? 20:57 Warr1024 liquids aren't really a great example, since you can't directly pick them up. 20:58 PilzAdam bye 21:01 kaeza Warr1024, simply add a check in grass' on_place to not replace the node if it matches "default:grass_[1-5]" 21:01 kaeza same for seeds 21:01 Warr1024 yeah, I'd have to do that for all the buildable_to plants in farming and submit a pull req. 21:33 iqualfragile VanessaE: luckily i do not have a static one ); 21:43 Jordach i havent seen THAT JS for some time 21:43 Jordach finally found somewhere where dragging over text doesnt highlight it 21:46 Jordach > kaeza Moderator 21:46 Jordach wut 21:47 Jordach oh, Menche too 21:47 Jordach Menche, kaeza: welcome to the club :P 21:47 kaeza o/ 21:57 Jordach hello Evergreen 21:57 Evergreen hey 21:57 Jordach my internal batteries are going 21:57 Jordach running near 10% 21:58 Jordach -!- System life: Est. time remaining: 2hrs 6min 22:14 kaeza > is at home 22:14 kaeza > uses laptop 22:14 kaeza > bitches about battery life 22:38 Peacock how do i download the engine source with an unpulled pull? (#960 specifically) 22:39 VanessaE Peacock: clone git master first, then do, git pull
22:41 VanessaE in that case, git pull git@github.com:celeron55/minetest.git set_sky 22:41 Peacock so in the terminal i would do..: 22:41 VanessaE should do it. 22:41 Peacock clone git minetest:master 22:41 Peacock then 22:41 VanessaE then cd minetest; git pull git@github.com:celeron55/minetest.git set_sky 22:41 Peacock aiight lemme try that now 22:41 Peacock will it create a new folder? (should i rename my current minetest folder?) 22:42 VanessaE it'll add that branch to your local copy and merge it into git master, locally only 22:42 VanessaE then you just build (and perhaps install) it as usual 22:43 Peacock :/ bash: clone: command not found 22:43 Menche git clone, not clone git 22:43 Peacock ah lol 22:44 Menche git clone git://github.com/minetest/minetest 22:44 Peacock there we go :) 22:46 Peacock ugh, got some sort of RSA key error when doing git pull :/ 22:46 VanessaE then use https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git 22:47 VanessaE git pull https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git set_sky 22:47 Menche isn't the ssh protocol mainly for if you want to push commits? 22:47 Peacock aiight, nano opened up in the terminal, do i write out and exit or am i supposed to change something? 22:47 VanessaE it works both ways. 22:48 VanessaE Peacock: it gave you a merge commit? 22:48 Menche with a commit message for the merge? should probably just save and exit 22:48 VanessaE just save/exit. 22:48 Peacock says merge branch 'set_sky' ... yeah 22:49 Peacock aiight, i think it's done lol 22:49 Peacock jesus, learning mandarin would be more fun lol 22:49 VanessaE ok, now build/install as usual. 22:51 Peacock *is building* gonna see if i can make a space game with a real nice star map background 22:51 VanessaE Peacock: I believe jojoa1997 once asked for a nice moon-based server :) 22:51 Peacock well moon is still ground level, so gameplay would be more or less the same :/ 22:52 Peacock was thinking of neutralizing the mapgen by setting all the aliases to air, and using paramats asteroid mapgen 22:52 VanessaE well, it could be eternal daytime with a black sky, low gravity, and nothing but regolith to work with :) 22:52 VanessaE you don't have to do that, just set it to singlenode. 22:52 VanessaE afaik that single node is air by default. 22:53 Peacock besides isn't there already a moon game? i thought i saw something on the forums for that 22:53 VanessaE idk 22:53 Peacock singlenode air mapgen? 22:53 Peacock that might be easier on the CPU 22:53 VanessaE yep. 22:53 Peacock how does one setup singlenode? 22:54 VanessaE you just select it when you create the world. 22:54 VanessaE instead of v6 22:54 Peacock and air's the default? sounds e-z enough 22:54 VanessaE I think so 22:54 Evergreen Yeah, it is 22:55 Peacock foor space though i'd have to make typical air drownable, and add a similiar oxygen node 22:55 Peacock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_space_habitat 22:56 NakedFury I got a new space game. Space Engineers 22:57 NakedFury really fun to make a voxel ship and crash it 22:58 Peacock this one? v 22:58 Peacock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3b9e_KWO-I 22:58 NakedFury yup 22:58 Peacock looks pretty cool 22:58 NakedFury still early alpha. I can build small or big ships 22:58 NakedFury and crash them 22:59 NakedFury for now only creative mode so blocks are built instantly 22:59 Peacock are they giving away the alphas? dont feel like paying for another might-never-be-finished game lol 22:59 Menche i've tried starmade. it's fun, but difficult to get the player facing in the right direction to build stuff. 22:59 NakedFury no. pay $15 23:00 Menche has different planets 23:00 NakedFury starmade is also fun 23:00 Peacock yeah fuck that lol alot of alpha games asking for money don't get finished lately 23:00 Menche it's free of charge iirc 23:00 NakedFury starmade was being sold for like $3 23:01 Menche doesn't look like it 23:02 NakedFury this game is still free to play. Buying the game is a pre-purchase of the full game. 23:02 NakedFury its $6 now. 23:02 Peacock i'd be interested in buying either game if they were actually finished 23:03 Menche wonder if something like that could work in minetest. convert the ship to entities and attach them to each other, then attach the player to the cockpit? 23:03 NakedFury http://www.pcgamer.com/gallery/14-space-games-you-should-be-excited-about-right-now/rodina/ 23:03 Peacock are you nuts? lol converting all the nodes to entities 23:03 NakedFury that would be awesome menche 23:03 Menche probably be too slow? 23:03 NakedFury minetest doesnt need more entities problems. 23:04 Peacock would probably kill your CPU in singleplayer, never mind many people flying around doing battle :P 23:04 NakedFury its already bad 23:04 Menche and put some really low limit on the number of nodes in it :p 23:04 Peacock what would make more sense is to use vmanip to remove the ship to subspace 23:04 Peacock subspace would be a layer of the map totally cut off from the rest 23:05 Peacock you could fake travel that way 23:05 Peacock but still, the map in all is still only 60km from end to end, do you really need warp speed for that? 23:06 Menche even fast move would take a while to go that distance 23:06 Menche I remember holding down we for a few minutes to cross a 2km tunnel on redcrab's server 23:07 VanessaE a human can run rather fast though in-game - like 72 km/h or so 23:07 Menche lol 23:08 Menche of course the problem with going really fast is that the blocks may not load that fast 23:09 VanessaE on simpler servers, they can 23:09 VanessaE the base mapgen is really fast now 23:09 Menche but if you add some sort of warp vehicle thing to go, say 3 times fast_move speed, they may not 23:10 VanessaE that much is true, but if it's warp, then you'd more or less just be teleporting :) 23:10 VanessaE at warp 1 you'd still cross the map in like 0.2 sec 23:10 Peacock dunno, with the minetest engine is best to aim for the attainable: building bases and colonies, and *small* transit vehicles 23:11 VanessaE a portal or warp effect that allows you to jump between servers should be easy to make 23:11 Peacock trying to convert a bunch of nodes to entities may work for airship mod, but you can't build giant ships with that 23:11 Menche between servers? now that would be cool. 23:11 Peacock inter-server teleportation would be cool yeah :-) in the meantime we fake it with layered realms 23:12 NakedFury connect different servers together into a super server 23:12 NakedFury have 1 acting as the central HUB 23:12 Menche supplement the serverlist with a metaserver 23:12 NakedFury that is done in Minecraft for a server that has many game modes 23:12 Peacock easier might be : to run several maps on the same server 23:13 Peacock then you'd have teleport(mapname, pos) 23:13 Peacock inter-server teleportation breaks down one of the servers changes addresses/ports or is down 23:13 Peacock *when one 23:14 Peacock then you could use voxmynips to remove a 'ship' from one map to place on another map, on the same overall server 23:17 Peacock would also help the fast moving of ships if you could give different nodes a unique name/identifier, so you wouldn't have to check against blueprints, origin/destination reference pos's, 23:17 Peacock like a ship registry 23:32 Peacock Not bad: http://s18.postimg.org/y9lqil5nd/screenshot_4059386426.png 23:35 Menche cool 23:35 VanessaE very nice 23:40 Peacock though i might propose in addition to skybox, a "wraparound" type, cuz skybox takes 6 square textures like nodes 23:41 Menche wasn't skybox already supported? 23:41 Peacock #960, unpulled yet but im testing it now 23:41 Peacock so far so good 23:41 Menche thought i remembered skybox textures before. was that before the sun/moon maybe? 23:41 VanessaE Menche: back in 0.3.x 23:41 Peacock ancient minetest version yeah 23:46 dumdidum hello, one question :) are all ores from the more ores mod merged into minetest_game? i thought i ask befor i start searching for tin ^^ 23:49 Menche i think everything except tin 23:49 Menche bronze is copper + steel i believe 23:51 stormchaser3000 hi 23:51 dumdidum yes, bronze is copper and steel 23:51 stormchaser3000 what servers are you all playing on 23:56 NewCoder anunakki, Hi!! 23:56 * NewCoder dances to see anunakki