Time Nick Message 00:00 theuniversalbuil well ill tell you what it looked like 00:00 theuniversalbuil it showed the night sky 00:00 theuniversalbuil and i was able to move my hand 00:00 theuniversalbuil but everyhting else did not work 00:00 theuniversalbuil i coudnt walk 00:00 theuniversalbuil and the butttons did not work 00:03 VanessaE hrm 00:03 VanessaE maybe the server crashed? 00:03 theuniversalbuil yeah 00:03 theuniversalbuil idk 00:03 theuniversalbuil hmm 00:29 pitriss theuniversalbuil: something got wrong when landrush crashed.. it was restarted but something is not ok.. As fairiestoy wrote on landrush forum.. 00:29 pitriss i'ts too late here.. night 00:30 theuniversalbuil ok 00:30 theuniversalbuil Thanks pitriss 01:33 VanessaE HDX updated: pipeworks chest and furnace textures added, normalmap support discontinued until the damn normalmapping code gets stabilized and fixed. 01:59 VanessaE another update: moved it back to github, as it's only 344MB without normalmaps. 02:00 kaeza "only" 02:01 kaeza o_o 02:02 VanessaE 2922 files in that dir, so 344 MB is doing pretty good. 02:24 zsoltisawesome Good day! 02:24 VanessaE hi 02:25 zsoltisawesome /) 04:21 theuniversalbuil :-) 04:21 theuniversalbuil :) 04:21 theuniversalbuil :-( 04:22 theuniversalbuil :( 04:32 kaeza ☺ 05:45 VanessaE hi nore, night all 05:47 nore hi 06:32 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3652588818.png 06:33 nore ^ screenshot of 16-bit mesecons decoder+display 06:33 RealBadAngel nice 06:33 RealBadAngel hi nore 06:33 nore hi 06:33 RealBadAngel im in the middle of recovery 06:34 RealBadAngel ive lost my primary hdd 06:34 nore that's a big problem... 06:34 nore have you been able to save your files? 06:34 RealBadAngel thx god ive uploaded most of my work to git 06:34 RealBadAngel ive lost several days of work 06:35 nore you lost the terminal formspec element, haven't you? 06:35 RealBadAngel its on the stick, so no worries 06:36 RealBadAngel what ive lost and missing the most is the fine tuning of water shaders 06:36 nore you keep more backup copies than I do... 06:36 nore and btw, did you look at the errors of shaders? 06:37 RealBadAngel yup, i saw recently the very same ones 06:37 RealBadAngel i got them when trying to run the game with open drivers 06:37 nore and were you able to fix them? 06:38 RealBadAngel by installing propertiary ones 06:38 nore (cause I use the open drivers too, I have problems with the proprietary ones) 06:46 RealBadAngel whats your GPU? 06:47 nore amd radeon HD 7670M, IIRC 06:50 kahrl sudo lshw|grep -C10 "VGA compatible" 06:51 RealBadAngel you have newer one than me 06:51 RealBadAngel so definitely you shall be able to use propertiary drivers 06:52 RealBadAngel mine is 4670 06:52 nore produit: Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series] 06:52 RealBadAngel does M stand for mobile? 06:53 nore yes, I reckon (I have a laptop) 06:53 RealBadAngel lemme ask my uncle 06:54 RealBadAngel ur distro? 06:55 nore debain jessie 06:57 RealBadAngel other, is your xorg 1.12 or 1.13? 06:57 RealBadAngel i had problem with newer distros, with xorg at 1.13 06:58 nore how do you know that? 06:58 nore (the xorg version) 06:58 RealBadAngel ati stopped providing drivers for older cards 06:58 nore ok, I've found 06:59 nore it's Xorg 1.14.3 (so neither 1.12 nor 1.13) 06:59 RealBadAngel http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-determine-kernel-xorg-version-numbers-406535/ 06:59 RealBadAngel so you have to choose another distro to be able to use propertiary drivers 07:00 nore and there it no way it could work without them, is there? 07:00 RealBadAngel im on ubuntu 12.04 atm 07:00 RealBadAngel i saw somewhere a solution, downgrading xorg 07:01 RealBadAngel google for it 07:01 Calinou downgrading x.org is unsupported and tricky 07:01 nore but about the shaders, what is the problem with open drivers? 07:02 RealBadAngel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1171445 07:02 RealBadAngel open drivers doesnt support newer versions of opengl 07:03 RealBadAngel Calinou, yup, its tricky, better install from scratch just a bit older distro 07:03 nore and couldn't the shaders be made to work with old OpenGL versions? 07:03 Calinou OSS drivers support OpenGL 3.1-3.3 if you're installing mesa git and stuff like that 07:04 RealBadAngel with the stuff im messing, its rather not possible 07:06 nore so I won't use shaders, then... (even if they look very cool) 07:06 RealBadAngel whats wrong with 12.04? couldnt you just install that distro? 07:07 RealBadAngel im pretty happy with it 07:07 Calinou well, it has old software but you can't do anything else that's supported :P 07:07 Calinou to use fglrx on an old card 07:07 RealBadAngel ofc i got rid of unity and switched to gnome 07:09 RealBadAngel btw, Calinou, have you seen the water? 07:09 Calinou nope 07:09 RealBadAngel hold on then 07:10 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax48OnXjDTE 07:10 RealBadAngel here u go 07:39 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png 07:39 nore ^ multiplier of 2 8-bit numbers to get a 16-bit number 07:40 nore (no microcontroller nor luacontroller) 07:43 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png 07:43 nore ^ what it looks like from behind 07:50 nore RealBadAngel, have you seen the multiplier? 08:07 RealBadAngel yeah, lookin cool 08:34 JamesTait You got back safely then? 08:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Apple Day! :-D 09:37 nore Wuzzy, for the wiki: 09:37 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png 09:37 nore use that screenshot instead of the old binary adder 09:37 Wuzzy Thank you. 09:38 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png 09:38 nore and that one is the front, FYI 09:38 Wuzzy okay; the screenshots are just a bit large. I guess I JPEG them :P 09:39 nore no problem... 09:39 nore you can change the size too 09:39 nore and I had a few suggestion: 09:40 nore In "Installing texture packs", you should say that for recent versions (0.4.8, 0.4.7-dev), one should just put TPs in the textures/ folder 09:40 nore and then choose that TP in the main menu 09:41 nore and for "How to build your first house", maybe add some screenshots 09:44 Wuzzy hmmm 09:44 nore Wuzzy: "removed hand (is not an item)" -> it is: it is the item "" 09:44 nore in the code: minetest.register_item(":", ...) 09:45 Wuzzy but there is no way to get it with “/giveme”, right? xD 09:45 nore yes, there isn't 09:45 Wuzzy anyways, I should add it back 09:45 nore except throwing out what you got with /giveme 09:45 Wuzzy and what exactly do the screenshots show? 09:45 Wuzzy another binary adder? 09:45 nore look at the second one 09:46 Wuzzy aha 09:46 nore I guess you guessed what it was... 09:52 nore spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115080#p115080 09:52 nore sfan5, VanessaE, are you there? 09:54 Wuzzy nore: Why don’t you do the changes you suggested yourself? :O 09:55 nore I don't know how to write them 09:55 nore and my English is not very good 09:56 nore Wuzzy, no, not ":" 09:56 Wuzzy ?? 09:56 nore it is "", ":" means to ignore naming conventions when registering the node 09:57 Wuzzy argh 09:57 Wuzzy silly me 09:57 Wuzzy totally forgot THAT 09:57 Wuzzy lol XD 09:57 nore (e.g. minetest.register_node(":default:apple") in a mod to cahnge the default apple 09:57 Wuzzy okay that is a good argument 09:57 Wuzzy wait 09:58 Wuzzy you dont need to speak english very well for taking screenshots for “How to build your first house”. :P 09:58 nore I don't know what screenshots to make... 09:59 nore and you should redirect the mesecons page to mesecons.net 10:00 Wuzzy what mesecons page? 10:01 nore the mesecons on the mod list page 10:02 Wuzzy Are you blind? There is a link to mesecons.net on the line. :O 10:02 nore http://wiki.minetest.net/Furnace -> the craft isn't correct, one can make a furnace with 4 stone and 4 desert stone 10:02 nore Wuzzy, then add a page for mesecons (but do not leave a red link) 10:02 Wuzzy Yes, I know it is incorrect 10:02 nore ^ idem for chests, 4 planks and 4 junglewood works too 10:02 Wuzzy You can thank BlockMen for that. 10:03 nore and one can do a pick with desert stone 10:03 Wuzzy I have worked hard for adding group crafts to the wiki but BlockMen reverted all these 10:03 Wuzzy I don’t wanted to start an edit war … 10:03 Wuzzy I mean MOST of the group crafts were reverted 10:04 Wuzzy Look on this page: http://wiki.minetest.net/Category:Stone 10:04 nore and you forgot mese axes 10:04 Wuzzy No I DIDN’T! 10:04 nore it's good like that 10:05 nore minetest.register_tool("default:axe_mese", { 10:05 Wuzzy BlockMen reverted my changes which added the group crafts 10:05 Wuzzy wait, mese axe? 10:05 Wuzzy what are you talking about 10:05 Wuzzy even the crippled [[Axe]] page has Mese axe 10:06 Wuzzy you can craft furnace from ANY combination of stone-like things 10:06 Wuzzy and “stone-like things” is defined as “stone or cobblestone or desert stone or stone brick or desert stone brick” 10:07 Wuzzy See also http://wiki.minetest.net/Groups 10:07 nore the "craft" page has no mese axe, nor diamond axe, nor mese shovel ,etc 10:08 Wuzzy Well 10:08 Wuzzy I don’t very much care about this page 10:08 nore Wuzzy, yes, I know that about the crafting of the furnace 10:08 Wuzzy it seems so redundant 10:08 nore nevertheless, it should be updated (or the recipes removed) 10:08 nore but not d 10:08 Wuzzy besides, I explicitly stated that these are crafting EXAMPLES and not a full crafting guide :P 10:09 nore filled with inaccurate information 10:09 Wuzzy Best would be to remove most crafts from this page 10:09 nore there is almost everything on the page... 10:09 Wuzzy and just leave the instructions 10:09 Wuzzy and really leave just one to three examples 10:09 Wuzzy to get the idea 10:10 Wuzzy in fact, these group pages are made all by be in order to cope with redundancy 10:10 nore that could be good (e.g., a normal recipe, a shapeless recipe, etc.) 10:14 Wuzzy What pisses me off is the fact that BlockMen reverted the edits on the node pages where I added group crafts. Here is the old version of [[Axe]]: Compare this to the current one. 10:14 Wuzzy BlockMen seems to insist on using animations 10:17 Wuzzy Of course I just could respond by reverting BlockMen’s reverts. But this would be an open declaration of edit war, of course. :-/ 10:18 nore I like the old way better 10:18 Wuzzy besides: is BlockMen EVER visible on IRC? 10:18 Wuzzy (I don’t know) 10:18 Wuzzy (thanks :)) 10:18 nore Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115080#p115080 (spam) 10:18 nore !seen BlockMen 10:18 MinetestBot nore: Sorry, I haven't seen blockmen around. 10:18 Wuzzy o_O 10:18 Jordach nore, going going gone 10:19 Wuzzy how far goes MinetestBot’s memory back? 10:19 nore !help 10:19 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 10:19 Jordach i prefer a silly ban message for spammers: spam what lovely spam 10:20 nore until last restart, I reckon 10:20 Jordach wat wat wat wat 10:20 nore Jordach, how far goes MinetestBot’s memory back? 10:21 Jordach three torrents that have been sitting in my list for days has finally started and are on hyperspeed (just my luck; i happen to have shitty luck with the seeders) 10:21 Jordach nore, indefinite 10:21 Jordach or 1 week 10:21 Jordach iirc 10:21 nore so until last time she was restarted, no? 10:21 Jordach pretty much 10:21 nore !seen RealBadAngel 10:21 MinetestBot nore: realbadangel was last seen at 2013-10-21 08:07:51 UTC on #minetest 10:22 nore !seen sfan5 10:22 MinetestBot nore: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-10-20 13:22:25 UTC on #minetest 10:22 Wuzzy !seen Chuck Norris 10:22 MinetestBot Wuzzy: Sorry, I haven't seen chuck around. 10:22 Jordach !seen Jordach 10:22 MinetestBot Jordach: jordach was last seen at 2013-10-21 10:21:36 UTC on #minetest 10:22 Jordach it doesnt count the seen message if you use it on yourself 10:22 Wuzzy You don’t see Chuck Norris, Chuck Norris sees YOU. 10:23 Jordach someone from .hu is giving me 2MB/S 10:23 nore MinetestBot has been restarted yesterday at 11:46 10:23 Jordach im always around 10:23 Hunterz !seen ChuckNorris 10:23 MinetestBot Hunterz: Sorry, I haven't seen chucknorris around. 10:23 Wuzzy Does this mean it forgets everything before that? 10:27 nore Wuzzy, yes 10:28 Wuzzy bummer 10:39 kaeza Jordach, can you unban me from #mt @ inchra ? :3 10:40 Jordach i cannot control ShadowBot 10:40 kaeza derp... 10:40 kaeza ShadowNinja, ^ 10:53 kaeza Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3668162906.jpg 11:00 nore kaeza, how did you get yourself banned? 11:00 kaeza nore, meh 11:01 nore you were saying meh, !talk to much, am I right? 11:01 kaeza actually Rhys 11:01 nore why were you banned, then? 11:05 sfan5 hi everyone 11:06 kaeza hi sfan 11:06 nore hi sfan5 11:19 * Jordach graps Gimp 2.6.12 portable 11:19 Jordach grabs* 11:20 nore Jordach, have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png 11:20 Jordach jesus WTF 11:20 nore what? 11:22 nore what do you think of it? 11:27 Jordach not bad.png 11:27 nore thanks 11:29 Jordach i have minetest, blender, gimp and other games to keep myself busy 11:29 Jordach on a flash pemn 11:29 Jordach pen* 11:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:33 nore hi PilzAdam 11:33 nore have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png 11:36 nore PilzAdam, ^ 11:37 PilzAdam is that by you? 11:37 nore yes 11:38 PilzAdam it would be more impressive if you only used torches, and not the gates 11:38 nore do you want a WE schematic? 11:38 nore torches are too slow 11:38 nore gates are almost instant 11:39 nore with torches, it would take very long to have the output 11:39 nore and they use ABMs, so it wouldn't be possible to keep all of those active at once 11:40 nore it is 101*41*47 11:41 nore so even when standing in the middle some blocks would be too far away 11:42 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/multiplier8.we 11:42 nore here 11:43 nore (the WE scheme is 2MB large...) 11:43 nore PilzAdam, ^ 12:07 nore hi hmmmm 12:07 hmmmm hi 12:07 nore paramat said you added rivers and mountains to mgv7, is that already pushed? 12:08 hmmmm yep 12:08 nore since when? 12:08 hmmmm since about 3-4 months ago 12:09 nore ah, so why did he say that? that's strange 12:09 nore anyway, you said that biome defs needed to be put in minetest_game 12:10 nore why isn't it done now? 12:10 hmmmm because the biomes aren't quite acceptable 12:10 nore what is the problem? 12:10 hmmmm they don't look very good 12:11 nore well, the few people that tried mgv7 said it was awesome 12:11 nore so I don't know what could look bad 12:12 Wuzzy hey nore, I changed the Craftings page yet again. 12:12 nore good 12:13 Wuzzy I got rid of the craftings in it, instead I just posted some links. The redundancy was simply not managable anymore. xD 12:14 nore I like it like it is now... 12:14 Wuzzy great, thanks :-) 12:16 nore hmmmm, have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png 12:17 Wuzzy yes I saw that 12:17 Wuzzy and it is in the mods page 12:17 Wuzzy well, the first image 12:17 Wuzzy I think, one image is enough 12:17 Wuzzy maybe 12:18 Wuzzy hmm is there a mod which looks TOTALLY different than minetest_game? 12:18 Wuzzy (And I don’t mean just texture packs) 12:18 nore you could try technic 12:18 Wuzzy hmm anyways I am too lazy for this now :P 13:58 sfan5 lol, the firmware for the new telekom routers is just a tar package, it even contains a nicely commented bash script 13:59 sfan5 apparently the people who write the firmware use FritzBox! devices in their company 14:03 sfan5 they even included a binary for checksum validation, you could just patch it out 14:03 sfan5 ..which would then allow you to disable the downgrade check in the script 14:04 sfan5 """ addiu $a0, (aChecksumVali_1 - 0x410000) # "Checksum validation failed successful!" """ 14:04 sfan5 what is that.. 14:05 Jordach not bad 14:06 sfan5 it is statically linked, nice 14:06 nore sfan5, you should add memory to MinetestBot (when you restart her, she still knows who she has seen) 14:06 sfan5 apparently it will also just insert a kernel module of your choosing 14:06 sfan5 nore: yes, I should do that 14:07 sfan5 I wish I had a 900V router, it would be rootable so easily... 14:07 nore and btw, have you seen that: http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png ? 14:07 sfan5 yes 14:07 sfan5 I'm currently building 64 byte memory 14:08 sfan5 will be pretty compact 14:08 sfan5 only need addr decoder then it' complete 14:08 nore what size is a memory unit? 14:09 sfan5 physical size? 14:09 nore yes 14:09 nore size for 1 bit 14:09 sfan5 1 bit = 1 node 14:10 nore with luacontroller? 14:10 sfan5 yes 14:10 sfan5 it is actually pretty fas 14:10 sfan5 t 14:10 nore that's cheating... :p 14:12 nore what's the smallest size you can do without it? 14:12 sfan5 dunno 14:13 nore try! 14:13 sfan5 maybe later :P 14:13 nore oh, and about NPCs in mg... 14:13 nore have you a piece of code for that? 14:14 sfan5 no 14:14 sfan5 wow! the telekom even offers the gpl licenses source code for download 14:15 Jordach WAT 14:15 Jordach WAT WAT WAT 14:16 sfan5 they use uclibc 14:23 Jordach can you run minetest on it? 14:23 Jordach :D 14:24 nore sfan5, btw, were you able to run Minetest on Android? 14:24 sfan5 yes 14:24 Jordach wat 14:24 sfan5 I posted a tutorial 14:24 Jordach pics plox 14:24 nore the client? 14:24 sfan5 oh, the client almost 14:24 sfan5 it still fails uncontrollably for no reason 14:25 sfan5 Jordach: minetest would probably work on that, its a mips one 14:25 sfan5 but I don't have it :-( 14:25 sfan5 wait... I'll put up the source for minetest on android 14:30 nore sfan5, is your memory RAM or ROM? 14:30 sfan5 RW ofc 14:31 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/android 14:34 sfan5 to build that you need an android toolchain (preferably the crystax one) with android_native_app_glue.h installed into includes 14:38 jojoa1997 Sfan5 can you build one for me to test? Computer is tied up with somethings 14:38 jojoa1997 Some things* 14:38 sfan5 jojoa1997: it does not work currently 14:38 jojoa1997 :-[ 14:39 sfan5 anyway if you want to run it put the .so at /sdcard/minetest/minetest.so and all data files in /sdcard/minetest/ 14:39 sfan5 http://127.0.0.1/upload/userdata/1/MinetestLoader.apk will then do things for you 14:39 Jordach sfan5, cannt access 127.0.0.1 14:39 Jordach cannot* 14:39 sfan5 grr 14:39 sfan5 everytime 14:39 sfan5 Jordach: s/127.0.0.1/sfan5.duckdns.org/ 14:40 jojoa1997 jojoa1997> is there a list i could copy to my usb of all the programs that are updated with apt-get update? 14:40 jojoa1997 In Ubuntu 14:40 sfan5 !! loading shared library from sdcard won't normally work, you would need to get root and "mount - /mnt/sdcard -o remount,exec" to get it to work 14:41 sfan5 the lib in MinetestLoader.apk has extra space so one can edit the location of the minetest library 14:41 PilzAdam jojoa1997, you could try apt-get -s update >> update.txt 14:41 PilzAdam eh, *upgrade 14:42 jojoa1997 yeah no 14:43 PilzAdam oh, it seems to print the list when you run upgrade first 14:43 jojoa1997 i am using a live usb to backup my files due to some problems with upgradeing ubutnu 14:44 PilzAdam you should learn how to ask questions 14:44 PilzAdam also, -> #ubuntu 14:46 jojoa1997 bbl 14:46 germa hi 14:47 germa sorry, I have lubuntu.... why don't craft wooden doors? 14:48 PilzAdam hi 14:48 PilzAdam can you rephrase that question? 14:50 nore sfan5: http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3682494680.png 14:51 sfan5 that seems pretty compact 14:51 nore 64B memory, with 32 registers holding 16B each, and decoder 14:51 nore (RW, of course) 14:51 germa hi thank you... i can't craft wooden doors 14:51 germa don't work 14:51 PilzAdam germa, what Minetest version do you have? 14:51 germa sorry for my english 14:51 germa 0.4.7 14:52 germa PilzAdam 0.4.7 14:53 PilzAdam do you craft it like this: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wooden_Door ? 14:53 germa yes 14:54 PilzAdam what game do you run? (i.e. minetest_game, dwarves or nodetest) 14:55 germa minetest? i don't know dwarves or nodetest 14:55 PilzAdam you have selected the game when creating the world 14:56 nore PilzAdam, he might be using minimal... 14:56 germa yes... minimal 14:56 nore you should use minetest_game 14:57 nore there are no doors in minimal 14:57 germa ah ok... i download and install another minetest? 14:57 nore no, not exactly 14:58 nore how did you get Minetest? 14:58 nore (and what is your OS) 14:58 germa I have lubuntu 14:59 germa i get from software center 15:00 nore are there other packages with minetest in their name? 15:00 nore if yes, install them 15:00 germa no, now i search in the repisitory 15:01 PilzAdam isnt Minetest 0.3.1 in the software center? 15:02 germa no only 0.4.7 but are other packages, i try to install that 15:02 nore what are the other packages? 15:03 germa minetest-common / minetest-dbg / minetest-delta / minetest-server 15:03 PilzAdam hey john_minetest 15:04 germa hi john 15:04 PilzAdam john_minetest, I had my first Java lecture today at uni 15:04 PilzAdam TIL: System.out.println("Hello World!"); 15:04 germa ahah 15:04 germa good 15:05 nore germa, does it work with minetest-data installed? 15:06 germa nore, the doors? no 15:06 nore create a new world with game minetest_game 15:06 germa but I install the other packages? 15:07 nore yes, you should at least install minetest-data and minetest-server 15:07 nore and what lubuntu version do you have? 15:07 nore (raring or saucy) 15:10 nore (i.e, 13.04 or 13.10) 15:10 PilzAdam wow, 13.10 indeed has 0.4.7 in the repos 15:11 nore 0.4.7 is old... :p 15:11 germa i see 15:11 nore debian jessie had 0.4.7 too 15:11 nore no, 0.4.6 15:11 germa i can't update? 15:12 nore well, what is your lubuntu version 15:12 nore if is is 13.04 or less, you will need to compile minetest from source or to download a build 15:12 PilzAdam nore, obviously 13.10 if he installed 0.4.7 in the software center 15:13 sfan5 too hilarious... http://i.imgur.com/RUTn1wn.png 15:13 nore if it is 13.10, then you should be able to select game "minetest_game" when you create a world 15:14 nore sfan5, ??? 15:14 germa 13.04 15:14 sfan5 sfan5: that is a reddit entry 15:14 PilzAdam nore, the game name is "minetest", not "minetest_game" 15:14 nore germa, you will need to compile minetest from source then 15:15 germa ah, i unistall and compile 15:15 nore yes 15:15 nore (well, you don't need to uninstall) 15:16 germa good... you know where I find the commands? :) 15:16 PilzAdam sfan5, video: http://youtu.be/8OJhkYdOcfw 15:20 Jordach and here we see the PilzAdam using a google service 15:21 kaeza googlol 15:23 germa nooo nore!!! ahah 15:24 germa who know where i get the commands for compile minetest in lubuntu pleae? 15:26 kaeza in the README 15:27 germa thank you... is the same http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest 15:28 kaeza looks like that should work 15:36 germa i don't understand how compile... im the worst 15:37 * Evolykane is shaking his head 15:38 VanessaE hi 15:38 germa hi vanessae 15:38 germa you know how i compile minetest on lubuntu ahah 15:38 Evolykane HI 15:41 reactor Meh. 15:41 reactor ubuntu is dead 15:41 germa i'm dead 15:41 reactor Why don't you install BSD? 15:41 germa BSD? 15:41 reactor Yes. Give FreeBSD a spin. 15:41 PilzAdam meh, BSD is dead 15:41 Evolykane It would be good to change the standard Font of Minetest, sometimes there came a Guy with the Name EvoIykane when I was online with the Name Evolykane, because in Minetest big i looks like small L 15:41 reactor If you can't hack it, there's PC-BSD. 15:41 PilzAdam give kubuntu a spin 15:42 germa im new on linux 15:42 reactor It would be nice to have proper, monospaced fonts. 15:42 reactor Because fonts that suitable for printing are by far not suitable for displays. 15:42 reactor germa: oh well. What do I do. 15:43 germa help me to compile minetest ahah 15:43 reactor I can't force you. Make your own mistakes. 15:43 reactor Well, uh. 15:43 germa yes :) 15:43 reactor Do you know in general how to compile things? 15:44 reactor Have you compiled something before? 15:44 Evolykane :# 15:44 reactor I need to know, because I need idea where to start. 15:44 germa no ahah i study 15:44 reactor So, no. 15:44 germa yes i see 15:44 germa compiling c++ 15:45 germa google 15:45 germa ahah 15:45 TheLastProject The only thing I know from compiling is "make -C src/ clean install" but it differs from project to project anyway 15:45 reactor First, make sure you read the README. 15:45 reactor It's right in the directory where you unpacked it. 15:47 germa i install minetest from software center... i don't unpack nothing 15:50 germa now... im lost 15:52 germa i follow this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt but i don't understand 16:12 germa im lost in compiling... 16:16 reactor germa: install all the listed dependencies. 16:16 germa where i see this? cd minetest-minetest-286edd4 (or similar) 16:16 markveidemanis Hi 16:16 reactor markveidemanis: o/ 16:16 germa i install the dependencies... i thinck 16:16 reactor I thic. 16:16 reactor thick* 16:16 germa ahah sorry 16:16 germa think 16:16 reactor Well, I'm not as thick as you. 16:16 markveidemanis I am trying to get minetestserver working on my kindle 16:16 reactor I think. 16:17 Jordach markveidemanis, that will never work 16:17 reactor markveidemanis: why would anyone put a server on a mobile device? 16:17 markveidemanis Its quiet 16:17 reactor There's no point. 16:17 markveidemanis ANd to prove someone wrong 16:17 markveidemanis I now have an aim 16:17 reactor Buy a quiet machine. 16:17 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459 16:18 reactor Or place your existing one in a separate room, like proper people do. 16:18 markveidemanis + 16:18 markveidemanis I dont have a Machine 16:18 markveidemanis I have a computer 16:18 markveidemanis I. WANT. TO. SEE IF. THIS. WORKS! 16:18 reactor Pardon me... what is your native language, again? 16:18 markveidemanis Swahili 16:19 reactor Oh. I see. 16:19 markveidemanis sfan5, 16:19 sfan5 markveidemanis, 16:19 markveidemanis Could you help me with ^ 16:20 markveidemanis I am downloading the android SDK 16:20 markveidemanis Because my kindle wouldn't show up 16:20 markveidemanis And i think its a bit pointless on an Ace 16:20 markveidemanis Too slow 16:21 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5MTc 16:21 Calinou :O 16:21 * Jordach can hear an idiot 16:22 * markveidemanis can hear a plane blowing up outside 16:23 reactor Pink Floyd - On the Run 16:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: what are you trying to do? 16:24 markveidemanis Get minetestserver running on my kindle 16:25 markveidemanis I am stuck on the first step 16:25 markveidemanis Try "adb devices" and make sure you see a device listed there 16:25 reactor Get his kindle bricked. 16:25 reactor Come on, use a proper machine. 16:25 markveidemanis impossible with these instructions 16:25 sfan5 why do you need the android sdk? 16:25 markveidemanis its in a temporary filder 16:25 markveidemanis idk 16:25 reactor filder 16:25 markveidemanis it wout show my device 16:26 sfan5 markveidemanis: enable usb debugging 16:26 Jordach because amazon removed the adb bridge 16:26 markveidemanis I have 16:27 Jordach kindle fires do not have adb 16:27 markveidemanis I uninstalled the driver, unplugged, enabled adb, plugged back in 16:27 Evolykane c[_] 16:27 sfan5 markveidemanis: enable usb debugging on your kindle 16:27 markveidemanis i have 16:27 markveidemanis security/enable adb 16:28 sfan5 enable that 16:28 markveidemanis its on 16:28 sfan5 now do adb devices again 16:29 markveidemanis List of devices attached 16:29 markveidemanis #Nothing 16:29 sfan5 try googling 16:29 sfan5 brb dinner 16:29 reactor brb church 16:29 reactor adb? 16:30 reactor Is that a debugger program? 16:31 markveidemanis idk, think so 16:31 markveidemanis android debugger 16:31 markveidemanis try google 16:31 VanessaE Android Debug Bridge 16:31 reactor oh. 16:31 VanessaE it's used for copying stuff to/from an android device and directly accessing the file system 16:31 VanessaE among other stuff 16:32 VanessaE it's how you jailbreak many android devices. 16:32 Jordach root* 16:32 markveidemanis Could you halp me, VanessaE? 16:32 VanessaE with what? 16:32 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459 16:32 markveidemanis my aim 16:32 markveidemanis *goal 16:32 VanessaE the word is "help", not "halp". 16:32 VanessaE oh that, np. 16:32 VanessaE no. 16:33 VanessaE sorry, I don't know how do to that. 16:33 markveidemanis ... 16:33 markveidemanis it says! 16:33 VanessaE then do it 16:33 markveidemanis I need help with adb though 16:33 markveidemanis My kindle wont show up when i do adb devices 16:34 markveidemanis http://s8.postimg.org/up0slnzj9/Screenshot_15.png 16:34 markveidemanis It should work though 16:35 VanessaE kindle runs android? 16:36 VanessaE huh. 16:36 VanessaE didn't know that 16:36 ruskie atleast the tablets do 16:36 ruskie not sure if the ereaders do 16:36 reactor Bricked. 16:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: try googling "kindle fire adb" 16:41 reactor Kindles cause fire? 16:41 reactor No wonder... any device with battery big enough is capable of self-ignition. 16:42 reactor Especially hooked up to some external cable with good ol' 5V going on random pins. 16:43 reactor What I'm saying is, are you sure you soldered the cable right, markveidemanis? 16:44 sfan5 markveidemanis: https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/fire/connect-adb.html#Prerequisites after "Windows users who" 16:45 markveidemanis done that already 16:45 markveidemanis then plugged in with enabled adb 16:46 markveidemanis maybe im using the wrong adb... 16:46 sfan5 and? 16:47 markveidemanis i think i was ._. 16:47 sfan5 maybe try https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/fire/connect-adb.html#Connecting 16:47 markveidemanis IT FUCKING WORKS 16:47 markveidemanis SUCH A DUMB MISTAKE... 16:47 markveidemanis I was using the wrong adb! 16:47 markveidemanis right... 16:48 markveidemanis i can close all these tabs :P 16:48 VanessaE CLOSE ALL THE TABS! 16:48 VanessaE :) 16:49 VanessaE *sheepish look*.. close ALL the tabs?? O.o 16:49 markveidemanis oh ffs 16:50 markveidemanis permission denied to execute 16:50 reactor markveidemanis: now you've probably killed the device. 16:50 sfan5 chmod 0777 16:50 reactor Good job. 16:50 sfan5 reactor: stop being so pessimistic 16:50 ruskie who's pessimistic... just trolling 16:51 reactor Some people should stay away from electronics. 16:51 markveidemanis ok 16:52 sfan5 markveidemanis: did the chmod? 16:52 markveidemanis yep, worked 16:52 markveidemanis as far as the last step 16:52 reactor sfan5: I'm not pessimistic. 16:52 markveidemanis with spk 16:52 reactor sfan5: I'm actually _optimistic_. 16:53 reactor Thank god the battery didn't catch fire because of the wrong cable. 16:53 reactor That'd be a hell of a lesson, though. 16:53 markveidemanis "Error, not an spk file" 16:54 sfan5 your forgot the decompress step 16:54 sfan5 -r 16:54 reactor decompess? 16:54 reactor There's no such word eh! 16:57 sfan5 markveidemanis: ? 16:58 reactor I told you that would happen. He's killed himself some impossible way. 17:01 sfan5 markveidemanis: ?? 17:02 reactor You see? 17:03 reactor And I told him he should stay away from electronics. 17:03 sfan5 markveidemanis: ??? 17:03 reactor The kind of people he belongs to doesn't get along well with technology. 17:03 sfan5 hm 17:05 virtualfall I create a Cookie Cliker HTML Mouse icon! http://gdriv.es/cookieclickermousehtml 17:05 virtualfall created 17:05 VanessaE er, ok 17:05 sfan5 virtualfall: you mean s/HTML/CSS/ 17:06 reactor virtualfall: and I break out of the cage and I GETS it. 17:06 reactor s/I/my brother Bilo/ 17:06 virtualfall sfan5 no, only HTML 17:06 VanessaE no, that's css 17:07 sfan5 virtualfall: is css. 17:07 virtualfall ah... oopes... 17:07 VanessaE (I always wondered how people did those custom cursors...) 17:07 kaeza magic 17:07 VanessaE :P 17:08 markveidemanis can i just extract it and push that to the droid? 17:09 reactor Why override users' system cursor? 17:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: you would need to push every single file 17:09 markveidemanis theres an spk file inside 17:09 sfan5 just extract it on the device 17:09 reactor I have right to use whatever cursor _ I _ like. 17:09 sfan5 .. 17:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: do step 10 17:09 reactor markveidemanis: oh, so you're alive. 17:09 reactor markveidemanis: use hammer. 17:10 rubenwardy Cookie!] 17:10 PilzAdam reactor, you seem to me like a troll 17:10 reactor PlizAdam, I aren't one. 17:10 virtualfall markveidemanis my cursor can only be used in websites 17:11 reactor Some do perceive me as one. 17:11 markveidemanis OH YEA 17:11 reactor Happens to the very best of us. 17:11 markveidemanis can i not put the files on the sd card? 17:11 sfan5 markveidemanis: no 17:11 markveidemanis why> 17:11 sfan5 you cannot execute files from the sd card 17:11 markveidemanis Wait 17:11 sfan5 it is mounted with "noexec" option 17:12 markveidemanis I dont have an sd card... 17:12 sfan5 to remove that you need to be root 17:12 sfan5 ahahahaha lol 17:12 markveidemanis Its part of the internal system 17:12 virtualfall original image for download: http://www.mavic-thegame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/8c21be93ca-70x70.png 17:15 markveidemanis ARRGGHG 17:15 markveidemanis YOU WERE RIGHT 17:15 markveidemanis i hate it when that happens 17:16 markveidemanis wait... 17:16 markveidemanis i can just copy the files to the sd... 17:16 sfan5 yes you can 17:17 sfan5 but you need to move them to /data/local/tmp before using them 17:17 markveidemanis yep 17:17 markveidemanis hmm... 17:18 markveidemanis I have no idea what to do now 17:18 markveidemanis I dont want to go rummaging through the files 17:18 markveidemanis how do i root my device? 17:19 sfan5 markveidemanis: first you open your internet browser, then you type in http://google.com 17:21 markveidemanis well, server works 17:21 germa anyone compile on lubuntu 17:21 germa ? 17:22 markveidemanis oh mah fukkin god 17:22 markveidemanis bit on the sloppy side 17:24 sfan5 germa: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 17:25 germa sfan5 thank you very much! 17:25 germa now i see 17:29 VanessaE sfan5: how close did you get to getting the client to run on android? I seem to recall some progress there? 17:30 sfan5 VanessaE: as close as main() 17:30 sfan5 after that it just crashes 17:30 sfan5 and remote debugging is a pain in the a** 17:30 sfan5 if you want to try it https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115098#p115098 17:31 sfan5 hm 17:31 sfan5 I could also just give the complete folder.. 17:32 Evergreen Sup everyone 17:32 sfan5 hi 3vergr33n 17:33 VanessaE no need, sfan. I was just curious. 17:33 Evergreen You mean 3v3rgr33n 17:33 Evergreen 1337 speak. :P 17:34 VanessaE 3\/3|?6|?33|\| 17:35 VanessaE (ow.) 17:35 germa 63RM4 17:37 Evergreen VanessaE, New ascii art logo! 17:37 Evergreen (jk.0 17:37 VanessaE heh 17:37 Evergreen (jk.) 17:37 VanessaE if I were truly any good at it, I'd do that with shift-JIS art :P 17:38 Evergreen Looks like the logo of some electro house producer 17:38 VanessaE or whatever it's called 17:41 thexyz ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ 17:41 rubenwardy lol 17:41 rubenwardy j 17:41 thexyz ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？ 17:41 Jordach thexyz, unicode is cheating 17:42 thexyz wat 17:43 Evergreen What Jordach said 17:44 Jordach ASCII ART is supposed to be in ASCII, not your new fangled unicode 17:44 Jordach 17:44 thexyz well VanessaE mentioned Shift-JIS art 17:44 thexyz > old 17:44 Jordach my first computer was a late 80's amiga 17:45 thexyz and? 17:45 Jordach i know quite a bit about computing 17:46 VanessaE 1-up, my first was an early-80's Timex-Sinclair 1000. :) 17:46 thexyz cool 17:46 germa my first is commodore plus4, but i know nothing about computers 17:46 germa was 17:47 VanessaE Plus/4 doesn't count :P 17:47 thexyz Jordach: so do you know how to determine if a program will halt or run indefinitely on a given input? 17:47 VanessaE (because Commodore just plain botched it) 17:48 germa yes, but kung-fu was funny 17:48 germa later my brother buy c64 17:49 thexyz what's this shit https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100644#p100644 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114946#p114946 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115029#p115029 17:50 JackGruff what the zog 17:51 VanessaE yet another pissing contest, of course 17:51 markveidemanis sfan5, how does one make a spk archive? 17:53 VanessaE rubenwardy: http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/998796010/mt_hdx_logo_organic_womens_tshirt_dark.jpg?color=Black&height=460&width=460&padToSquare=true <----- HAH! a watermark over MY image. FFFFFUUUUUUUU cafepress :P 17:53 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/spk.exe 17:54 sfan5 run "spk.exe cv " in the console 17:57 markveidemanis the files i want? 17:57 markveidemanis Theres tons! 17:57 sfan5 it does it recursively 17:57 markveidemanis say i want to compress 'x'? 17:57 markveidemanis x is a directory 17:57 sfan5 "spk.exe cv archive.spk x" 17:59 markveidemanis thanks, tis working 18:00 sfan5 running it without args gives your help 18:00 thexyz we should have a server where all players nicknames are replaced with "Anonymous" 18:00 sfan5 haha 18:00 sfan5 4test 18:00 sfan5 (instead of 4chan) 18:00 thexyz dunno about whether the client will accept that 18:00 sfan5 I'mm sure it will 18:00 markveidemanis it ran a bit, then stopped 18:01 sfan5 -m 18:01 Calinou also make chat green if it starts with > 18:01 PilzAdam thexyz, Im pretty sure it will accept that 18:01 thexyz PilzAdam: doesn't it use some sets or maps? 18:01 thexyz indexed by player name 18:01 PilzAdam AFAIK no 18:01 PilzAdam it gets the names when the generic object is send, and uses it only for chat completion 18:02 germa sfan5 you are my angel!!! 18:02 thexyz hm.. worth trying then 18:02 germa yeee 18:02 sfan5 I prefer angles over angels 18:02 germa thank you sfan5 and thank you all for help me! 18:03 sfan5 I think I will remove the unity desktop and install lxde 18:03 germa very gentle unknow people 18:05 Calinou sfan5: or xfce! :D 18:05 sfan5 oh right xfe 18:05 sfan5 *xfce 18:05 sfan5 lxde is too light 18:06 Evergreen sfan5, I switched a while ago, and I'll never look back. :D 18:06 Calinou xfce is more featureful 18:06 * Calinou is still on xubuntu 13.04 18:06 Evergreen xfce is awesome 18:06 markveidemanis it stops working randomly 18:06 markveidemanis sfan5 ^ 18:06 sfan5 markveidemanis: what, spk.exe? 18:07 markveidemanis yes 18:07 sfan5 how many files do you want to compress 18:07 sfan5 it currently has a hardlimit of .. 18:07 markveidemanis 3,908 Files, 368 Folders 18:07 sfan5 ok one sec 18:08 sfan5 it currently has a hardlimit of 1024 18:08 sfan5 I can change that 18:08 germa now... try to play online ahah 18:08 markveidemanis ok 18:08 markveidemanis I have a lot of files... 18:08 markveidemanis hold on, i think i know what to do 18:09 markveidemanis i dont need all this... 18:09 markveidemanis kindles too slow anyway 18:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/spk2.exe 18:09 sfan5 use that one 18:09 sfan5 support up to 4096 18:09 markveidemanis oh 18:09 markveidemanis ok 18:11 sfan5 time to install xfce.... 18:12 thexyz xfce is cool 18:12 thexyz you should totally switch to it 18:12 sfan5 I'm doing it right now 18:12 sfan5 I should maybe do a clean install 18:12 sfan5 but nah.. 18:13 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friend.™ 18:13 pitriss i preffer trinity desktop:) 18:13 VanessaE heretic! 18:13 VanessaE :) 18:13 pitriss Yeah:) 18:15 markveidemanis IT WORKS!!! 18:15 markveidemanis how could i make lag a bit less? 18:15 markveidemanis what should i echo to the conf? :) 18:15 sfan5 disable_anticheat = true 18:15 markveidemanis wait 18:16 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8419295 18:16 markveidemanis current 18:16 markveidemanis Im gonna have fun with my own server! 18:16 markveidemanis however not with the shell :P 18:17 markveidemanis How would i launch minetest without a pc? 18:17 markveidemanis hmm... 18:17 markveidemanis nohup? 18:17 markveidemanis nope 18:17 Jordach sfan5, crank that up to a mega 1024 18:17 sfan5 markveidemanis: one sec 18:18 markveidemanis I have ssh access to my @server@ 18:18 markveidemanis 'server' 18:18 sfan5 xfce is installed 18:18 sfan5 ssh? do you have your kindle rooted? 18:18 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7484 18:19 markveidemanis nope 18:19 PilzAdam "Does anyone know where would I post an annoying post in the forum?!" 18:19 sfan5 lol 18:20 markveidemanis haha 18:20 sfan5 brb, switching to xfce 18:20 Jordach sfan5, sfan5! we need you! 18:21 markveidemanis Now to forward the port... 18:21 sfan5 this is 100% nicer 18:21 Jordach markveidemanis, pics or it didnt happemn 18:21 sfan5 Jordach: i'm back 18:21 Jordach happen 18:21 Jordach thexyz, lol 18:21 markveidemanis hmm> 18:22 Jordach sfan5, crosshair_ud.png 18:22 Jordach how does one move forwards and back at the same time 18:22 sfan5 I don't know 18:22 sfan5 but it should still look right if you press both 18:23 Exio4 [15:13:24] i preffer trinity desktop:) 18:23 Exio4 the real kde3 was awesome 18:24 pitriss Exio4: yeah it was.. but trinity is not worse..:) 18:24 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115125#p115125 "I made some crosshair icons lol wont upload xd" 18:24 Exio4 kde3 seemed faster the last time i tried to use trinity 18:25 markveidemanis 5.81.157.109 18:25 markveidemanis not up yet though 18:25 pitriss Exio4: maybe it is depend on hw..:) 18:26 markveidemanis 5.81.157.109:30010 18:26 sfan5 !up 5.81.157.109 30010 18:26 MinetestBot 5.81.157.109:30010 is up (307ms) 18:26 Exio4 pitriss: the same hardware, an intel atom n270, 1gb of ram 18:26 Exio4 a netbook, a common one 18:27 Exio4 the other hardware was an amd duron at 900mhz, 2001 cpu, with 256+128mb of ram, debian lenny vs debian squeeze 18:27 Exio4 the official packages of debian lenny, the 'official' trinity packages 18:27 markveidemanis It may not be powerful, but its comvenient 18:28 sfan5 and I thought the kindle was fast.. 18:28 pitriss Exio4: idk.. only speculations but different OS version can have different performance too.. 18:28 sfan5 BTW the android build of minetestserver should also work on the raspberrypi 18:28 sfan5 (only the static linked one) 18:29 Exio4 it was the same kernel fwiw, but yeah 18:29 Exio4 i know 18:30 markveidemanis error 18:30 markveidemanis player moves too fast... 18:30 sfan5 xfce is so much more nices 18:30 sfan5 nicer 18:30 Exio4 the difference was mainly that kde3 + xcompmgr actually left 'enough cpu' for other things, like firefox 12 (or 14, i don't recall what i tried at that moment) with 4-5 tabs, and with trinity and everything disabled, it was actually too laggy to be usable :P 18:30 sfan5 markveidemanis: disable_anticheat = true 18:30 Exio4 i didn't try it here, this computer is way better though :P 18:31 Jordach thexyz, or i can just rip them manually 18:32 thexyz you forgot about my question D: 18:32 Exio4 sfan5: getting the client or the server should be compiled easily in the rpi or any real linux, though.. :P 18:33 sfan5 thexyz: "lol won't upload" ehm.. 18:33 sfan5 Exio4: it works on anything that runs linux 18:33 markveidemanis Done 18:33 sfan5 (even your toaster) 18:33 markveidemanis Someone wanna build a house? 18:33 markveidemanis just to test 18:33 sfan5 markveidemanis: make sure you start the server with "--config " to get it to use the config 18:34 markveidemanis I thought i did, seems to work now 18:34 Exio4 sfan5: wut? :P 18:34 Exio4 what toaster?! the netbook, the amd duron, or the phone? 18:35 sfan5 just put your raspberry pi in a toaster and you will see 18:35 thexyz this topic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7445 should be looked carefully for 18:35 markveidemanis oh... 18:35 Exio4 lol 18:35 markveidemanis worldedit crached 18:35 markveidemanis voxelmanip 18:35 markveidemanis ... 18:35 markveidemanis sfan5, 18:35 sfan5 >What the heck?! why can't people just all use .zip!? tar.gz is sooooo hard to unzip in windows. and .zip is possible to unzip in all OS's 18:35 markveidemanis can you make a new build? 18:36 sfan5 I can't unzip .zip on my toaster!!1!!111 18:36 sfan5 markveidemanis: sure, may take sometime, but not long 18:36 markveidemanis ok 18:36 Exio4 did you make an arm build or what sfan5? :P 18:36 markveidemanis Now i can have a server!!! 18:36 thexyz .zip is what sane people who care about compatibility use 18:36 Exio4 for markveidemanis 18:36 thexyz because it works everywhere 18:36 Jordach markveidemanis, 18:36 Jordach try finishing your sentences for once 18:37 Jordach see you you like it 18:37 markveidemanis i cant be bothe 18:37 sfan5 Exio4: it's this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459 18:38 markveidemanis sfan5, lmk when you start compiling 18:38 Exio4 ah 18:38 Exio4 those builds 18:39 Exio4 i compiled it with uclibc and stuff too, just for trying it locally :P 18:40 markveidemanis sfan5, can you also make the chat work 18:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: chat does not work??! 18:40 sfan5 it is supposed to :P 18:40 germa hello! and thank you again! see you again! 18:40 markveidemanis idk, says it doesnt in the post _._ 18:40 markveidemanis ._. 18:40 markveidemanis *straight face* 18:41 Jordach that's probably that chat bug that fucked up all chat 18:41 Jordach sfan5, ^ 18:41 Jordach we tried it before 18:41 Exio4 the chat works with uclibc 18:41 sfan5 ^ 18:41 Exio4 in my build, at least 18:41 Exio4 and as far as i know, it does with sfan5's 18:41 sfan5 markveidemanis: " the chat is no longer broken." 18:41 sfan5 Do you even read bro? 18:44 sfan5 the fuck xfce 18:47 markveidemanis Exio4, wheres 'your' build> 18:51 Exio4 markveidemanis: /home/exio4/sources/old/minetest-arm/bin/ 18:51 Exio4 i never uploaded it 18:51 markveidemanis .. 18:51 markveidemanis k 18:51 markveidemanis gtg now 18:51 Exio4 i can update it anytime 18:51 markveidemanis bbl 18:51 markveidemanis plz make new build 18:51 Exio4 if someone needs a build... but it is just another minetest build 18:52 markveidemanis i need 0.4.8 18:52 markveidemanis with voxelmanip[ 18:53 Exio4 talking about that, i never tried leveldb in my arm device :O 18:54 sfan5 markveidemanis: compiling now 18:55 Exio4 aww, i'm just doing git pull 18:55 Exio4 :( 19:00 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/rtGZnb3.jpg 19:00 Jordach hahahaha 19:01 Exio4 http://clickingbad.nullism.com/ 19:01 Exio4 i have more meth than cash :( 19:03 sfan5 Exio4: not again... 19:03 Exio4 what? >:D 19:07 PilzAdam Exio4, the buttons dont do anything for me 19:07 Exio4 enable javascript 19:08 PilzAdam I did 19:08 Exio4 how are you "playing" it? 19:08 PilzAdam clicking "COOK!" or "SELL!" does nothing 19:08 Exio4 flood cook, to produce meth, and then sell it, :P 19:09 Exio4 works for me 19:09 JackGruff i think i'll make a dope mod 19:10 JackGruff you can make meth underground and be a middle-aged man 19:10 JackGruff and throw pizzas in the air 19:10 JackGruff hmm 19:10 JackGruff blackmarket on a server? 19:14 sfan5 markveidemanis: done 19:20 VanessaE !seen zeg9 19:20 MinetestBot VanessaE: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around. 19:20 VanessaE bah 19:22 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://127.0.0.1/upload/userdata/1/minetest-0.4.7-dev-android.spk 19:22 PilzAdam sfan5 is trollin again 19:22 sfan5 not again 19:22 sfan5 I hate this 19:22 TheLastProject Heh, 127.0.0.1 19:22 VanessaE what's the difference between an spk and an apk? 19:23 sfan5 markveidemanis: soryy http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/minetest-0.4.7-dev-android.spk 19:23 sfan5 *sorry 19:23 sfan5 VanessaE: an .apk is essentially just .zip spk is http://github.com/sfan5/spk 19:23 VanessaE ah 19:23 VanessaE a custom format ;) 19:30 JackGruff woah, is mt coming to android?> 19:31 sfan5 the server already works on there 19:47 sfan5 yes! hotot finally works 19:47 VanessaE ? 19:49 Jordach sfan5, got twitter 19:49 Jordach -, 19:49 sfan5 sure 19:49 * Jordach wonders if Jordach can find sfan5 on the bluebook 19:49 Jordach ;) 19:50 sfan5 bluebook, whats that 20:10 thexyz sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115146#p115146 why can't it be paid? 20:11 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115141#p115141 20:12 Calinou wb Evergreen 20:12 sfan5 thexyz: It could, but I think it is highly unlikely 20:12 Evergreen Hello 20:12 thexyz sfan5: will you be submitting it to google play? 20:13 sfan5 why not 20:13 thexyz dunno, maybe you're obsessed with freedom or something 20:13 Calinou that requires $5 :p 20:13 Calinou but yeah, do it 20:14 sfan5 it requires $5 20:14 thexyz oh wow 20:14 thexyz should kickstart it 20:14 sfan5 heh 20:14 thexyz also, there are now attachments on forum 20:14 sfan5 "Minetest - open source infinite-world block sandbox game and a game engine" "Project goal: $5" 20:16 sfan5 "Backers: 1" "Comments: 1" "Comment #1: Here are your damn 5 dollars..." 20:16 thexyz we'll get to the news probably 20:16 * Menche pledges 7 cents 20:18 sfan5 wut 20:19 sfan5 it costs $25 not $5 20:19 thexyz wow 20:19 sfan5 and I don't have credit card 20:20 thexyz kickstarter definitely needed then 20:20 sfan5 yeah 20:21 VanessaE O.o it costs $25 to what...put an app on Google Play? 20:21 sfan5 yes 20:22 VanessaE no allowance for free apps??? 20:22 thexyz to get dev license I think 20:22 VanessaE ahhh 20:22 Calinou to prevent abuse 20:22 VanessaE that would tend to explain why so damn many apps are ad-supported if not outright cost. 20:22 thexyz it's one time it seems 20:22 Calinou it's one time yes 20:22 thexyz 25$ is nothing 20:22 VanessaE I always wondered about that. 20:22 Calinou if you put it on google play you could also put it on F-droid 20:23 Calinou thexyz: not nothing, but it's not much 20:23 Calinou still the cost of a Minecraft account :> 20:23 thexyz considering it's one time 20:25 TheLastProject F-Droid! 20:27 Calinou "F-Droid" sounds like "f***-droid" sometimes when said 20:27 Calinou but that's just me :phoronix rolleyes: 20:29 markveidemanis Hi 20:29 markveidemanis Im back 20:29 markveidemanis sfan5: i beleive thats 0.4.7, not .4.8 20:30 sfan5 markveidemanis: 0.4.8 is not out yet 20:30 sfan5 it's 0.4.7-dev (current git head) 20:30 sfan5 this is what Uberi (co-dev of WorldEdit) calls 0.4.8 20:30 markveidemanis ok 20:30 sfan5 °op 20:30 sfan5 !op 20:31 sfan5 !deop 20:31 PilzAdam sfan5, no 20:31 markveidemanis sry 20:31 PilzAdam remove that 20:31 JackGruff what do you guys thing of running a kickstarter like 0 a.d did? 20:31 JackGruff think* 20:32 sfan5 !op 20:32 sfan5 !deop 20:32 sfan5 better? 20:32 Menche accurate. 20:32 PilzAdam yes 20:32 sfan5 JackGruff: we don't need a kickstarter 20:33 JackGruff y 20:33 PilzAdam because free and open source and stuff 20:33 ShadowNinja sfan5: "!topic change -1 s/something/something else/" is better. :-) 20:34 PilzAdam bye 20:34 sfan5 ShadowNinja: nah, I prefer the manualy way 20:34 sfan5 -y 20:34 thexyz now since he left you can change it back 20:38 sfan5 good idea :P 20:38 sfan5 s/P/D/ 20:40 Menche https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115144#p115144 ? 20:41 Menche will be able to upload images directly to the forum? or just a preview page for images? 20:41 ShadowNinja Menche: Yep, see discussion in -dev. 20:41 ShadowNinja Menche: Well, not images, but zips and the like, for mods. 20:42 Menche btw, what is the word in that image? google translate says it's "cabbage casserole" 20:42 thexyz no, images are disallowed 20:44 Evergreen sfan5, how fast does minetest run on android? 20:44 thexyz it doesn't 20:44 markveidemanis Quite fast 20:45 markveidemanis sfan5: new one is bugged 20:45 sfan5 markveidemanis: define bugges 20:46 markveidemanis i cant copy from the terminal 20:47 markveidemanis http://s7.postimg.org/tk8xu1qgr/Screenshot_16.png 20:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: you need to tell it where your world folder is 20:48 sfan5 also it seems like you didn't unpack it completly 20:50 markveidemanis thanks! 21:10 ShadowNinja sfan5: proller_ proller__ and troller should be combined in the irc stats. 21:11 sfan5 ok 21:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: Also sapier and sapier1. 21:12 ShadowNinja sfan5: And hmmm+ 21:14 sfan5 new stats generated 21:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: h|mmmm, hmmmmm, and hmmmmmm are still seperate. 21:20 sfan5 oh.. 21:28 kaeza thexyz, nice avatar :3 21:37 Taoki Does latest Minetest have Lua function to "awaken" an area of world even when a player isn't there exploring? 21:37 Taoki Very much in need of it for one of my mods 21:37 Exio4 luavoxelmanip 21:37 Taoki Someone made the code once I remember, but no idea if it got in 21:38 Taoki Exio4: That can activate chnks with no players nearby? 21:38 Exio4 yeah 21:38 Taoki What about areas that weren't generated yet? That's what I actually need it for... I need it to generate an area in a given box and work with it 21:39 Exio4 no idea in that case 21:39 Taoki hmmmm: Any info on that? 21:40 ShadowNinja Taoki: It will load the area but not generate it. 21:40 ShadowNinja (Excluding things from default like nyancats) 21:40 Taoki ok. So there's no alternative to generate an area when the player isn't nearby too? 21:41 ShadowNinja Other than the force_load pull, no. But even that pull won't work for far away areas as you can't add entities in unloaded areas. 21:42 Taoki Ok. I wonder if that can be fixed somehow 21:43 ShadowNinja Taoki: What are you trying to do? 21:43 Taoki ShadowNinja: Structures mod. I want to make it capable of spawning huge cities... hundreds of nodes wide. But even if server stress can handle it, all of the corners need to have been loaded 21:44 Taoki So whenever a city spawn is triggered, the area hundreds of nodes around the player most be loaded and active... till terrain and the like is examined at least 21:46 ShadowNinja Taoki: You don't have to spawn the whole thing at a time. Use register_on_generated and check if the chunk is part of a city and generate that part. 21:46 Taoki I use register_on_generated to trigger the starting point. But if I think about it, maybe there would be some way to assign each part to its chunk... 21:46 Taoki Doubtful though 21:49 ShadowNinja There surely is a way, but I'm not experienced with mapgen, so I wouldn't know how to do it. 21:50 proller Taoki, force load 21:51 proller https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606?source=cc 21:51 Taoki proller: Using voxel mainpulator? And does that also generate the area? 21:51 Taoki ok, will look 21:52 Taoki Was that already merged?\ 21:52 Exio4 proller: already said by ShadowNinja ... 21:52 proller ups ok 21:52 Taoki Ah, so it's the same thing... no generating 21:53 ShadowNinja It will keep the area loaded, but I don't think you can add a entity to a unloaded area. 21:53 Taoki Entities aren't important, I only need to place nodes 21:53 Taoki But also detect the generated terrain 21:53 ShadowNinja And you will probably have to wait for the next server step to have the blocks actually loaded. 21:54 ShadowNinja Taoki: force_load uses entities. 21:54 Taoki That's ok 21:54 sfan5 good night everyone 21:54 Taoki night 21:55 Taoki Right... so I'd need to use a fake entity to load the area 21:55 Exio4 ... 21:55 Exio4 the pull request was never merged 21:55 Exio4 you actually can't use that nice feature 21:55 Taoki ah 21:56 Taoki The story of Minetest pull requests :P 21:56 Exio4 entities are buggy, that is why it wasn't merged 21:56 Exio4 or, do you want 150 entities forceloading random areas because they are buggy? 21:57 Taoki nah 22:13 Taoki I thought about using on_generate to spawn every part of the city instead. But there are so many problems with that I wouldn't know how to start... 22:14 Taoki First of all, how would I detect the average height at which to flatten and obtian a flat floor, that I can put the buildings into? I'd need to cut through huge mountains and cover huge valleys 22:14 Taoki Then, how would I know where to spawn a city (randomly decided) before on_generate gets to run in any of those places 23:08 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=115175#p115175 Looking for advice on my Structures mod, based on ShadowNinja's idea. 23:08 Taoki There are two major problems I can't figure out 23:31 Evergreen sup people 23:33 VanessaE hu 23:33 VanessaE hi 23:39 Megaf some people say, my server is a lagless server, 23:39 Megaf how is that even possible? 23:39 VanessaE there are no lagless servers, only faster ones. :) 23:39 VanessaE not if the server has anything fun going on anyway 23:39 VanessaE lag comes with the territory 23:40 Evergreen sfan5, Love the player list pull request, I hope it is merged. 23:43 Megaf VanessaE, indeed 23:43 Megaf VanessaE, BTW, thanks for your mod plantlife, its really good looking 23:44 Megaf folks, it would be nice if we could define the amount of cache to be used, in MB 23:44 Megaf either on client and server side 23:44 VanessaE you're quite welcome - you should look at Mossmanikin's (and company) Undergrowth modpack and dryplants mods too 23:44 VanessaE they use plants_lib, and the set really works well together 23:48 * Nocte is scared. :[ 23:49 Nocte Damn it, reading Creepypastas at night time is not the wisest choice one can make. :| 23:50 Nocte Hopefully nobody writes Minetest creepypasta. 23:50 VanessaE someone probably already has done that 23:56 Nocte SomeOrdinaryGamers' latest one was screwed up.