Time Nick Message 00:01 Inocudom In general, this is an unhappy time of year. 00:02 Peacock its the grey outside, the sudden drop of vitamin D 00:02 Peacock in the summer you have sunlight, you have energy 00:02 Peacock then it goes gray, gets dark early, and energy flatlines lol 00:03 Peacock thats why i think living near the artic circle wouldn't be bad for me, i like the night in winter, its always night in winter there, and in the summer it's always sunlight lol 00:06 Peacock though food and rent are incredibly expensive for a place few people want to live lol 00:11 VanessaE heh 00:15 Peacock hmm, there were no flowers in carboniferous era, that came in the permian 00:20 paramat hi :) 00:22 Inocudom As the saying goes, every season has its demons. 00:23 Inocudom Much sunlight is recieved in summer, but there are many bugs and weeds too. It can also get very hot and very stormy. 00:25 kaeza oh but it's spring here! the season of love! <3 00:27 Peacock cobblestone dwelling with a mine entrance (carboniferous) http://s21.postimg.org/l4jjshpk7/screenshot_3457853025.png 00:28 VanessaE looks more like adobe. 00:28 Peacock pdf reader? 00:28 VanessaE er 00:28 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe 00:28 VanessaE that kind. 00:29 Peacock hm, might add adobe 00:29 VanessaE naw 00:29 VanessaE there's already a mod with that 00:29 VanessaE I have it, but I forget what it was 00:29 VanessaE is* 00:29 Peacock judging from the MC carboniferous mod, everything has this yellowish-green tint to it 00:30 Peacock also have to add fossils, and a stone age grinder lol 00:30 Peacock so people can make aphrodisiacs with the bone XD 00:30 Peacock naw, bone tools :-) 00:31 VanessaE .... 00:33 Peacock there weren't many/any desers in carboniferous either from what i can tell 00:36 paramat good work captain p, i like that screenshot 00:37 Peacock thanks, though im mostly ripping off the MC mod by the same name :P 00:38 sapier1 Dan_D yes mobf supports 2d mobs 00:46 Peacock which mod has the ferns? need quite a bit of ferns for the era :p 00:47 pitriss please i want to ask.. Is there some easy way, how I can detect OS where MT is running from mod? 00:47 pitriss Peacock: ferns mod? 00:47 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105579#p105579 00:48 Peacock oh, it's called ferns lol 00:48 Peacock i was expecting something like moreplants+ lol 00:49 Peacock (people tend to reuse the same suffixes/prefixes) :P 00:50 kaeza pitriss, that's a hard one 00:50 Peacock pitriss you could try opening a file thats common to the same os 00:50 Peacock like c/windows/explorer.exe 00:51 kaeza pitriss, what I normally do to detect OS from Lua is check if os.getenv("WINDIR") has a no-empty value 00:51 Peacock works too lol 00:51 kaeza if it has, I assume Win32 00:51 kaeza if not, Linux 00:51 pitriss kaeza: Ohh thanks, thats better than http://www.moravel.cz/product/harrows-matrix-softip-darts-18g:89459/ :D thank you 00:52 kaeza it's not 100% reliable, but meh 00:52 kaeza I have yet to see a Linux user define WINDIR :P 00:53 paramat big jungle in paragenv7 http://i.imgur.com/Xfoi8Xz.png 00:55 pitriss kaeza: yeah, it is simply but for my purpose it is enough 01:07 Inocudom The servers are pretty empty, just like the forums. I thought it was only like this during the summer? 01:07 VanessaE client bugs combined with version mismatches keep people from playing 01:07 VanessaE my only guess anyway 01:08 sapier1 exactly but without a little bit less outdated release version we can't fix it 01:09 Inocudom Either that or some serious stuff is going on in their lives right now. 01:10 VanessaE maybe, Inocudom, but everyone all at once? 01:10 Inocudom Would not surprise me. The world is thrown into chaos slowly but surely. 01:10 sapier1 I recently get a lot of version missmatch related questions in mobf thread considering most ppl don't even bother to ask on error I assume number is much higher 01:11 Peacock well, 0.4.8 has been stalled for a while now, there seems to be some disagreement in core dev about direction, and not too many new mods are coming out lately... so take your pick :P 01:11 Inocudom At least Dan D is still making mods. 01:11 sapier1 0.4.8 has been stalled because of dissagreement what is necessary to be release quality ;-) 01:12 Inocudom Where did Jeija go? He has not been around for some time. 01:12 sapier1 at least thats how I understood 01:12 Peacock well from what i can tell c55 doesn't seem happy with prollers' very specific/static additions :P and more generally the amount of bugs 01:13 sapier1 haven't seen jeija for a while too but I assuem he's got more important things to do 01:13 Peacock though im glad he pulled the old skybox out of storage, that should be fun 01:13 Peacock rba, jeija and probably hmmm are all busy 01:14 sapier1 I understand celeron proller adds very specific features that can't be made generic easyly ... that's what mods are meant for 01:14 VanessaE RBA's been around but mostly overloaded with work. hmmmm has school to rdeal with. jeija's been working on fgpa and other electronic stuff in real life I think. 01:14 VanessaE -r 01:14 Inocudom Tis the time of year to be busy. 01:15 sapier1 I guess next development boost will be around christmas ;-) 01:15 proller Peacock, witch bugs? 01:15 Inocudom Dynamic water and vbo are good features. 01:15 Peacock well honestly in regards to weather, if we improved entities/particle spawners, we wouldn't need to hardcode weather :P 01:15 Peacock about bugs, you're kidding me right? lol 01:15 Peacock ask vanessa 01:15 proller weather is not hardcoded 01:15 sapier1 vanessae did celerons duplication fix work on your servers? 01:15 pitriss errm why minetest.setting_get() return strings with " " ? 01:16 VanessaE sapier1: it is in place, but I can't say one way or the other if it has helped 01:16 VanessaE it hasn't been up long enough 01:16 Inocudom Finite water does show potential. It doesn't seem to rev CPUs as much as it used to. 01:16 Peacock proller ive gone over the list of bugs numerous times, but i dont want to start an argument about it now on a friday night 01:16 sapier1 ok I thought the duplication would happen quite fast but maybe I got it wrong 01:17 sapier1 its saturday morning ;-) 01:17 Peacock for the record, i dont mind finite water, what pisses me off is the legacy liquids are broken (air pockets) 01:17 Peacock well, still friday night EST :P 01:17 sapier1 prollers ideas are quite interesting but some of them don't feel exactly "finished" 01:17 Peacock and im on indian time lately so probably friday morning for me lol 01:18 Inocudom You live in India? 01:18 proller sapier1, minetest is not finished too 01:18 Peacock regular liquids used to flow fine, no delay or lag, now its all fucked up lol 01:18 Peacock im not in india :P but ive mostly been a nightbird lately 01:18 VanessaE the entity dupe bug does not appear to be fixed. 01:19 sapier1 of course proller but I can't get rid of feeling they might even require conceptional changes e.g. the weather things or the viscosity 01:19 Peacock and the whole making changes to builtin to add more entities when entities are fucked up themselves, i wouldn't call that smart either lol 01:19 VanessaE there were 60-70 objects (all of which are signs and item frames, near as I can tell, and a few mobs). near the spawn on my server, now there are over 300. 01:20 sapier1 so why do you add additional features instead of trying to fix the entity issues? ... sounds like I do things because some bug stops me from doing them how they might be meant to be done 01:20 Inocudom Vbo does not affect the massive fps drop caused by nodebox modes, glass, and leaves sadly. 01:20 Peacock well proller's not the one who added more entities though 01:21 sapier1 of course not peacock 01:21 Peacock though the lua weather mods would have worked fine if particlespawners were better, but proller didn't write particlespawners either 01:21 Inocudom I don't know if the massive fps drop concerning those is fixable. VanessaE noticed it to. 01:21 proller sapier1, air viscosity? i fixes falling stucks, but everyone starts talking about broken starwars blabla 01:21 sapier1 it still doesn't feel right to add the features to core after we tried to move all specific things to modapi 01:22 proller Peacock, melting-freezing cant be done with mods 01:22 sapier1 proller you fixed it by assuming minetest will always be a game with surface around height 0 01:22 Peacock well i wrote 4seasons what, 1-2 years ago? worked fine for me :P 01:22 sapier1 if this was true your fix would be great 01:22 sapier1 but it isn't 01:23 proller sapier1, i fixed something boring, it was target 01:23 VanessaE Inocudom: cy thinks it's something inherent in entities themselves, not so much how many there are. he's been doing some tests with them 01:23 proller Peacock, for you only 01:23 proller Peacock, compare it with dynamic weather stuff in -next 01:23 sapier1 yes but if you fix a car not driving right on rails your solution may be perfect to drive on rails but others still want to drive their car on streets 01:24 Inocudom I suggested the plantlike drawtype for leaves as an option before. 01:24 Peacock point is, engine shouldn't be coding weather, it should be coding the tools to make weather possible mod-side :P that way, we can customize what kind of weather we want, be it on earth or in outer space :P 01:24 Inocudom Make them look more plantlike, and might cause a slight boost in fps. 01:25 proller Peacock, did you look on my core weather changes? 01:25 Inocudom Customization is very important. Don't make the same mistakes Cube 2 Sauerbraten did. 01:25 Peacock though like i said, my biggest concern right now isn't weather, its the broken legacy liquids that tick me off lol 01:25 Peacock and the whole sun/moon flickery thing underground 01:25 sapier1 yes weather system is quite acceptable compared to the falling fix issues 01:26 sapier1 btw did anyone ever build minetest on cygwin64? 01:27 proller sapier1, most servers-players use minetest_game with 0,0,0 spawn 01:27 VanessaE proller, probably not. 01:27 proller my fix not acceptable only for space games, but show me one 01:27 Peacock many space games have been tried 01:28 VanessaE hah, speak of. I spy you, cy1 ;) 01:28 sapier1 your fix has issues for mods adding second surface too 01:28 sapier1 e.g. nether mod 01:28 Peacock realms? i had several of those too :P 01:28 sapier1 isn't there a sky mod too? 01:28 Peacock and my current server has ground level at y=100 01:29 proller sapier1, issuel like what? 01:29 proller sapier1, did you try it? 01:29 Peacock if you can't customize shit, it's not an engine :P 01:29 proller if you cant fall - it's not an engine :P 01:30 sapier1 like falling is calculated wrong at those realms because they are at y 10000 ... don't take the numbers for real I don't know the exact value 01:30 Peacock well in space for ex., you can't fall, you drift 01:30 proller sapier1, try first, then describe issue 01:31 sapier1 proller I don't need to try you told your calculation uses y value so if I'm at +10000 I'm gonna fall different to falling at -10000 01:32 proller but its hard to feel difference 01:33 sapier1 so you exchange one error by another one ... that's not a fix 01:34 sapier1 btw if there isn't a difference that fix is useless anyway 01:34 proller its not error, its subject to next step 01:34 proller try it first 01:34 proller this discussion useless 01:35 sapier1 proller I don't need to try things that are wrong by concept 01:35 sapier1 you can't try any possible things 01:35 proller big part of minetest wrong by concept 01:35 yoyi We are all falling in space. 01:36 proller but you can try condemn every thing 01:36 sapier1 proller if you feel minetest beeing wrong why do you contribute? 01:36 proller im trying to make better 01:37 Peacock you might like coding for mt-classic more, its only got one game 01:38 sapier1 imho peacock might be right mt-classic is more what you seem to make minetest 01:39 Peacock well mt-classic is the game itself, not an engine, so game-specific features would be more at home there 01:40 Peacock engine needs pulls that modders can use, cuz i don't know if anyone's noticed, but the number of new mods are down 01:40 sapier1 current mt development tries to create a generic game engine ... this isn't completely done of course but at least by now it's the direction 01:42 Peacock generic is good, the more options the better imho 01:49 NakedFury certain "generic" things are needed in game engines 01:50 Peacock well already the skybox is encouraging, we can have games based on environments other than earth :-) 01:50 hmmmm [09:14 PM] RBA's been around but mostly overloaded with work. hmmmm has school to rdeal with. jeija's been working on fgpa and other electronic stuff in real life I think. 01:51 VanessaE hm? 01:51 Peacock old quote is old :P 01:51 hmmmm I'm done with school, I'm working now which takes a significantly longer amount of time out of my day 01:51 hmmmm that's why you never see me 01:51 VanessaE understood. guess my info is out of date. 01:51 NakedFury work is evil 01:51 hmmmm back when I was in school I was able to do minetest 01:51 Peacock school is like 6 hours out of a day, work can be like, 10, 12 hours lol 01:51 Peacock in my case ive done 16 hour shifts, and one time, 24 lol 01:52 Peacock (being shortstaffed is a bitch lol) 01:52 hmmmm plus on the weekends I've been taking care of crap 01:52 hmmmm just starting out, y'know? 01:52 VanessaE yup, I know. 01:52 hmmmm still don't have a couch 01:52 * paramat notices its full moon 8) 01:52 VanessaE been there, done that :-/ 01:52 hmmmm also I'd say part of it is that I'm stuck on a bit of the lua main menu that's agonizing to code 01:53 Peacock dont worry, since the last bankruptcy we haven't had a couch for the past 3 years lol 01:53 hmmmm i'm gonna try to get that done by this weekend though 01:58 paramat hmmmm, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7366 :) 01:59 hmmmm o.O cool 01:59 sapier1 hmmmm do you have any special questions? 01:59 hmmmm sapier, no, it's just agonizing to do that much GUI code 01:59 sapier1 yea I understand :-) 02:00 hmmmm like I'd open up the file in gedit and then go to do something else 02:00 hmmmm and i wouldn't end up working on it at all 02:00 hmmmm just because it's like..... hideous 02:00 NakedFury wow this is the image I love from paramat thread: http://i.imgur.com/P2U7VD3.jpg 02:01 sapier1 *g* what are you trying to do hmmmm? 02:01 hmmmm there was a screenshot of it on the forum 02:01 hmmmm lemme dig it up 02:01 Peacock i need to modify that mod to match the carbinoferous period, should be fun lol 02:03 hmmmm https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111007#p111007 02:03 hmmmm and then I wanted to add a formspec type for hyperlinks 02:03 sapier1 the hud thing? 02:03 hmmmm and then I wanted to add a table formspec type 02:03 Peacock wish i could set those settings in a game/mod rather than .conf 02:04 hmmmm editable table 02:04 hmmmm and then now i stare at what i currently have for 10 seconds and then do something different 02:04 NakedFury sliders, text boxes, check boxes, drop down lists, etc 02:04 sapier1 wow :-) that's even more agonizing anythin has been done with formspec by now 02:05 Peacock sliders would be cool yeah 02:05 sapier1 I didn't write tables but only textlist because of the feeling I'd open up a huge construction site if I tried to add full featured tables 02:06 hmmmm exaclty 02:06 hmmmm i had something planned but i never put any code down for them 02:06 hmmmm exactly* 02:06 sapier1 isn't there some table code in a pull request? 02:06 hmmmm that would be pretty cool if there was 02:07 sapier1 kahrl did this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/920 02:07 hmmmm power of kahrl! 02:07 Peacock if i wanted to set mapgen params specific to one game without affection the other games, is that doable? or must i pass through either minetest.conf or map_meta.txt 02:07 hmmmm that guy is a code *monster* 02:07 sapier1 it's still quite complex in usage 02:08 hmmmm Peacock, yes, you can set mapgen parameters in a mod 02:08 sapier1 but as I know kahrl it'll work 02:08 Peacock w/ minetest.register_on_mapgen_init() ? 02:08 hmmmm yep 02:09 hmmmm for technical reasons, inside that callback is the only time you have to set them 02:09 Peacock i had to lookup doc lua api .txt lol just noticed that function 02:09 Peacock fairly new 02:09 Peacock (or maybe i wasnt paying attention) lol but sweet :-) 02:10 Peacock im guessing MapgenParams would be an array? 02:11 hmmmm there are no arrays in lua 02:11 hmmmm only tables 02:11 Peacock table/array, in php/lua theyre pretty much documented the same lol 02:12 hmmmm if you look at the second line of the description in lua_api.txt, you'll see what fields are there 02:12 Peacock sweet so i can get rid of deserts in carbinoferous 02:12 hmmmm you actually set the mapgen parameters with minetest.set_mapgen_params 02:12 hmmmm look that one up 02:12 sapier1 not exactly there's a special sort of tables with number indices 02:12 sapier1 hmmmm kahrls tables don't seem to be editable 02:13 hmmmm agh 02:14 Peacock ah ok, what does _init do different? 02:14 hmmmm one is a callback telling you that the mapgen is currently being initialized, the other sets mapgen parameters equal to what you tell it 02:15 Peacock aiight so for my purposes i dont need _init 02:15 hmmmm you do 02:15 Peacock i have to call _params within _init? 02:15 hmmmm if you read the documentation, you'd see that the only time you can set parameters is on mapgen init 02:15 * arsdragonfly_ 's hard disk turned again this morning 02:16 VanessaE well I'd think turning is a good thing for a hard drive ;) 02:16 Peacock turned? it defected to the soviet union? 02:16 Peacock aiight yeah i have to call params within init, seems straightforward enough :-) 02:16 arsdragonfly_ last night when i turned my rig on after 2 weeks' downtime, i could hear the noise of the hard disk 02:16 VanessaE failing bearings? 02:16 arsdragonfly_ sounded like it was stuck 02:17 VanessaE freezer. 02:17 Peacock careful, my 7yr old 160gb did a mighty noise before dieing too 02:17 Peacock and the microwave too, last weekend lol 02:17 arsdragonfly_ and there was nothing on the screen 02:17 VanessaE pop it in the freezer for like half an hour, start it up and if necessary, give it a good twist to try to get the disk to spin. then clone it before it dies completely. 02:18 Peacock my microwave doesn't fit in the freezer :( 02:18 VanessaE heh 02:19 arsdragonfly_ this morning the noise was gone , but there was still nothing on the screen, and I rubbed the pins of the memory with a rubber 02:20 arsdragonfly_ then it started up, showing a GRUB prompt screen :-( 02:20 Peacock yeah, send it to planet Genesis and hope for the best 02:21 VanessaE It's dead, Jim. 02:24 Inocudom You mean to say that your hard drive died? How then are you here? 02:24 VanessaE second computer? new disk? 02:24 VanessaE live CD/DVD/USB? 02:24 Peacock USB boot would still work 02:24 Peacock CD? oh yeah i think i saw those on the history channel :P 02:26 Peacock look, CDs: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Aten_disk.jpg/300px-Aten_disk.jpg 02:27 VanessaE heh 02:27 Peacock :P 02:32 Inocudom Has oOChainLynxOo ever been here? 02:32 Inocudom Has he ever been in this chat room? 02:34 ShadowNinja ... : Error displaying the error page 02:34 VanessaE Inocudom: ages ago yeah 02:35 Inocudom He did? What day was this? 02:35 VanessaE months ago. 02:35 kaeza ShadowNinja, errorception? 02:35 kaeza :P 02:36 VanessaE error processing the error encountered while trying to display the error page. 02:38 roguejedi79 I've recently started a server. I want to install some mods and grant myself admin rights but cant figure out how to stop/start my server 02:39 Menche you can use the command /shutdown in-game 02:39 Menche if you have the "server" priv 02:39 roguejedi79 Dont have privs 02:39 roguejedi79 Cant add until server restarts 02:40 Menche your user doesn't have /grant ? 02:40 roguejedi79 Not by default 02:40 Menche killing the server with "killall" doesn't hurt anything, i don't think 02:40 Menche or ctrl-C 02:41 Menche i usually stop mine with "killall" 02:41 roguejedi79 Type in game or in terminal? 02:41 Menche terminal 02:41 Menche "killall minetestserver" 02:42 Menche then of course add "name = username" to the conf file so you have privs 02:43 roguejedi79 I'll give it a try in the morning. Thank you 02:53 * paramat wonders if wuzzy is fuzzy 03:05 * arsdragonfly 's rig is showing inconsistent results across every reboot... 03:05 arsdragonfly time to say goodbye to it 03:06 VanessaE hammer, nails, tree, shotgun. 03:06 VanessaE use your imagination ;) 03:13 Inocudom What do you think of the bee in the following video? http://youtu.be/zPSH6-UC4Og 03:13 arsdragonfly lol 03:15 Inocudom It is a male carpenter bee, which has no stinger. 03:19 VanessaE big bug 03:20 Inocudom Yes. And timid too. 03:23 Inocudom It is actually a rather cute little thing. They can be kept as pets in containers, fed honey, and petted. 04:15 cy1 ShadowNinja: you don't have a survival server, do you? 06:41 sfan5 hi everyone 06:41 VanessaE hi 06:46 us|0gb Hello! 06:47 VanessaE hi 07:35 cy1 us|0gb: man, your server is no fun :p 07:35 us|0gb No fun? Why not? 07:36 cy1 When I dig the blocks, it makes the blocks poof appear again 07:36 us|0gb Sorry about that. I wonder if it's slowing down again ... 07:36 cy1 neh, no idea 07:38 us|0gb Oh, I forgot, it's performing a backup right now. That's probably eating all its bandwidth. 07:43 cy1 Not a bandwidth thing. That version of minetest is ridiculously picky about latency. 07:43 us|0gb So 0.4.6 would be better? Or 0.4.8 when it arrives? 07:44 VanessaE guys I have a map-saving problem on my hands and I cannot find the solution 07:45 us|0gb What is the issue? 07:45 VanessaE I'm checking one thing real quick 07:46 VanessaE ok 07:46 VanessaE seems I cannot save the map data in a particular mapblock 07:46 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^ 07:46 us|0gb Is it only that block? 07:46 us|0gb Is map_meta.txt blank? 07:46 VanessaE it may be, I moved to a different location and tested the ability to save, worked fine there 07:47 us|0gb No idea then. Sorry. 07:47 VanessaE nope, it isn't blank. 07:47 us|0gb If it was blank, you would be able to save in other blocks either. 07:47 us|0gb (Though I don;t know why not.) 07:48 VanessaE I did cancel the server in the middle of /clearobjects earlier 07:48 VanessaE lemme re-run that, see if that clears it up 07:49 VanessaE OF COURSE the server doesn't warn me, let alone tell me WHY it won't save in that block 07:50 us|0gb No, of course not. It doesn't warn with the blank map_meta.txt saving issue either. 07:54 Dan_D In default Minetest, how do i get 'the green man' back? 07:55 us|0gb Comment out the line in the default "mod" that loads the 3D player. 07:55 Dan_D Which line? Sorry for being a noob. 07:55 Dan_D Which .lua file? 07:56 us|0gb Hold on, I'll look it up. 07:56 Dan_D Thanks! 07:56 kaeza player.lua 07:56 Dan_D So player.lua, there is a line 07:56 us|0gb No, the line that loads player.lua. 07:56 Dan_D The dofile? 07:56 us|0gb Yeah. 07:56 kaeza yes 07:56 Dan_D In init.lua 07:57 us|0gb I'm looking up where that is. 07:57 Dan_D At the top 07:57 us|0gb Oh, you have it? Good. 07:57 Dan_D That simple? Really? Awesome if so 07:57 us|0gb THat's all it takes. 07:58 us|0gb Just ass "--" to the beginning of that line. 07:58 us|0gb *add 07:58 sfan5 lol 07:58 Dan_D Were axes in 0.3.1? 07:58 us|0gb My "s" key is just near my "d" key. 07:59 us|0gb I think so, yes. 07:59 Dan_D Actually, no. WHat tools altogether were in 0.3.1? 07:59 Dan_D I want mt_nostalgia to be as classicish as possible 08:05 Dan_D So, the full set of tools, minus diamond and bronze? 08:07 VanessaE ok, fixed the write problem with the map - /clearobjects restored it to normal. 08:07 VanessaE (my survival map) 08:07 cy1 I feel absolutely 0 nostalgia for 0.3.1 08:13 VanessaE Dan_D: can you try my survival server please. experiment. 08:13 Dan_D No. It is too slow to play on, sorry. 08:14 VanessaE try it 08:14 VanessaE I may have fixed it 08:15 VanessaE please? 08:15 Dan_D Ok 08:18 Dan_D Why did you restart it? 08:19 VanessaE player.lua crash 08:19 VanessaE that same stupid intermittent crash we keep seeing,. cy has a possible fix, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/207 08:19 VanessaE I have not applied the fix because I wanted to see others' opinions of it 08:31 Dan_D VanessaE, update mt_nostalgia now? 08:31 VanessaE done. 08:31 Dan_D Ok, restart? 08:57 VanessaE bbl, bedtime. 08:57 VanessaE (way past, actually) 09:30 reactor o/ 10:07 rotcaer Uh. 10:07 rotcaer Mesecons is buggy handling doors. 10:08 rotcaer If I put two doors next to each other, facing each other with their free ends, one will become open in "0" state. 10:08 rotcaer I'm not sure if I'm using the freshest mesecons, though. 11:28 PenguinDad hi Jordach 11:33 Evergreen Hello everyone 11:35 Jordach -!- Initialising... 11:35 darkrose SIGSEGV 11:35 Jordach y u here darkrose 11:36 Jordach haha 11:36 Jordach i've been working on textures btw 11:36 darkrose haven't been here for ages, thought I'd look in 11:36 RBMK ? 11:37 Jordach darkrose, why do you need two sets of textures for doors 11:37 darkrose uh ? 11:37 darkrose oh, window + plain? 11:37 Jordach yes 11:37 RBMK I would like to suggest a door type: glass door. 11:38 darkrose in case someone wants to to a crossy looking thing for the window top, and plain planks for the plain top 11:40 Jordach darkrose, can't you use the nodebox style from minetest_game 11:40 Jordach where the texture decides on the window 11:41 Jordach and your server needs an update: menche has build the next branch 11:45 darkrose minetest_game just uses plain doors, then uses a transparent texture? 11:45 darkrose and my servers will stay on release, when next moves to master, I'll update 11:58 RBMK o/ 11:58 RBMK I'm not a pony, though. Do not call me that 11:58 RBMK s/$/./ 12:12 RBMK john_minetest: I have no problem with your unconscious. But refrain from projecting it on others. 12:13 RBMK Not everyone has sense of humour, as well. 12:15 markveidemanis Hello 12:17 RBMK john_minetest: oh. Inside jokes. 12:18 * john_minetest puts a cat on MinetestBot's head 12:18 * RBMK puts an angry cat on john_minetest's head and watches his eyes getting gouged out by it. 12:18 RBMK Now are you satisfied? 12:19 * PenguinDad puts a maine coon cat RBMK's head 12:24 PenguinDad the cat kicked him =) 12:24 Evolykane Hmm 12:27 RBMK You don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? 12:27 RBMK Subtle innuendos follow, there must be something inside! 12:35 Jordach ...suck cock? 12:36 RBMK Idk, that's a song :) 13:03 Megaf hey folks, have you ever seen girteronemo online? 13:04 Megaf its an idiot griefer 13:04 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:04 RBMK idk 13:04 RBMK PilzAdam: o/ 13:04 RBMK PlizAdam: how's the science? 13:04 Megaf he griefs then he says like "help, someone grifed here" it was nickname!" 13:04 Megaf Hi PilzAdam 13:05 RBMK Megaf: so what, use server log as proof. 13:05 RBMK Try and enable rollback. 13:05 RBMK And finally, ban him. 13:05 RBMK If not helping, rangeban. 13:05 Megaf RBMK, yep, I know that, and did it 13:05 Megaf rangeban: 13:05 Megaf ? 13:05 Megaf whats that? 13:06 RBMK As in, ban a whole range of network numbers. 13:06 Evergreen Megaf, someone called jeckiojen just posted in the servers section "MEGAF IS GAY..... SHHH!!!!! 13:06 RBMK Not sure if MT supports it. 13:06 Evergreen He is a new user 13:06 Megaf Evergreen, perhaps some grieffer I banned 13:06 Evergreen Probably 13:07 Megaf RBMK, I think it does not have that yet 13:07 Megaf wildcards, I would appreciate that 13:08 RBMK There might be. 13:08 PenguinDad i think i'll ban 255.255.255.255 :D 13:08 RBMK PenguinDad: limited broadcast. 13:09 RBMK will probably do nothing 13:10 Megaf Evergreen, heh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7468 13:10 Megaf kids... 13:11 thexyz just ban 0.0.0.0/0 and be done with that 13:11 Megaf I have never seen him actually 13:11 RBMK I have to confess. It was me. 13:12 RBMK ...not. 13:13 Megaf people dont like to play minetest on saturdays mornings 13:14 RBMK Why? 13:14 RBMK john_minetest: depends. 13:14 RBMK john_minetest: depends on where the server is hosted. 13:14 RBMK Btw, john_minetest. 13:14 RBMK john_minetest: btw, research facility? 13:14 PenguinDad i play red eclipse on saturday mornings :D 13:15 RBMK Yep. 13:15 thexyz lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7469 13:17 thexyz what a shitposter 13:28 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114689#p114689 "and simple mobs has better AI,spawning places and models than mobf." 13:36 PilzAdam simple mobs has sand monsters 13:36 PilzAdam or some people call them mummies, IIRC 13:36 PilzAdam john_minetest, btw, hows your uni? 13:38 NekoGloop I wish the simple mobs would actually -drop- the item 13:41 PilzAdam NekoGloop, in earlier versions they did, but I removed it because there were too many items lying arround 13:41 NekoGloop If killed by a player, that is 14:01 Dan_D Constructive criticism, what do you think? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7463 14:01 Dan_D !title 14:01 MinetestBot Dan_D: [Server] Minetest Nostalgia! VanessaE's super-fast new server! (Page 1) — Servers — Minetes[...] 14:02 zat Ecssiting 14:26 Evergreen Look at this animation that someone did in blender, it's incredible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i2AbTPspfg&list=PLCB20EB84599FAEC2 14:26 nore !title 14:27 MinetestBot nore: Assassin's Craft III: Minecraft Trailer Mashups - YouTube 14:27 Evergreen It's a minecraft animation by the way 14:28 CWz theres one thing that bugging me is his name pronounced piles-adam or pills-adam? 14:28 zat I miss blender :c 14:28 PilzAdam thats a Minetest 1.0 trailer ;-) 14:30 zat not impressive... exactly the same as the Lego fad, with a different name and slightly different presentation. 14:30 PilzAdam Evergreen, IIRC you played pilztest, right? 14:31 Evergreen Yes 14:31 PilzAdam do you have an idea for a better name? 14:31 Evergreen zat: I'd like to see you do something better in blender 14:31 Evergreen Hmm 14:32 thexyz > ' 14:32 thexyz lame 14:34 zat Evergreen: Must I be an artist in order to criticize art? must I be musician in order to criticize music? 14:35 zat must I be a singer in order to recognize a lame singer? 14:35 PilzAdam zat, you should be a coder to judge code :-p 14:35 zat I think we are talking of different things here 14:35 zat however, I used to use blender a lot 14:36 zat and even made a video, a remake test of Star Raiders 2 of Atari. 14:36 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/QnNgeiG.jpg 14:36 zat it took me like three days to learn blender and render the final video. 14:36 zat who wanna see it? 14:37 thexyz can't you just post the link? 14:37 zat I would have to upload the video, I have not made it available in years. 14:38 zat It used to be on Youtube around 2005 or 2006 14:38 RBMK Windows sucks. 14:39 NekoGloop Yeah, sure, whatever 14:39 RBMK john_minetest: try FreeBSD. 14:39 RBMK lit up? 14:40 NekoGloop You can compile minetest on windows...? 14:40 NekoGloop (emphasis on can) 14:40 Calinou never succeeded at it :( 14:40 thexyz yeah, you see, it's not that bad 14:40 thexyz it feels like LFS at times, I think 14:40 NekoGloop I did, it just ran slow as fuck because that computer was old as fuck 14:40 NekoGloop haven't tried again with this one 14:40 thexyz you have to manually resolve all dependencies 14:40 thexyz > 2013 14:41 RBMK thexyй: windows compilation 14:41 RBMK ? 14:41 RBMK :D 14:41 RBMK >:D 14:42 thexyz this is not nice 14:42 thexyz although I'm not surprised at all 14:42 RBMK Sorry. I do like messing with people's nicks. 14:42 thexyz oh, you're reactor 14:42 RBMK I am. 14:42 thexyz I see 14:42 RBMK How's you guess? 14:43 zat thexyz, PilzAdam, Evergreen: http://youtu.be/DSqejMWyk9g 14:44 Megaf it would be nice if the was a mod that auto cleans, like a time out, items on floor 14:44 Megaf so we don't have to /clearobjects 14:45 RBMK Is falling sand subject to /slearobjects? 14:45 PilzAdam zat, not very impressive 14:45 RBMK I still don't get what happens if sand is placed above void. 14:45 RBMK And pushed. 14:45 zat PilzAdam: It was my third day learning to use blender, I did not expect it to be awesome. 14:45 zat (and 8 years ago) 14:46 RBMK It should fall indetinitely until it overflows the coordinate buffer, and interesting things happen then? 14:46 PilzAdam zat, how does that matter? 14:46 RBMK s/detini/defini/ 14:46 RBMK Shit. 14:46 zat PilzAdam: how does that matter for what? what should it matter for? 14:46 zat Third day using a 3d modeling program and rendering that video... isn’t that enough? 14:47 PilzAdam you seem to said that as an answer to my comment that its not impresssive 14:47 Evergreen Impressive on that scale 14:47 zat Also, you probably don’t know the original game, that is why you do not understand the video. 14:47 Evergreen I couldn't do that now, really should learn how to use blender 14:48 Evergreen That is actually quite impressive for being new to blender, I applaud you 14:48 zat However, my comment was about the concept... We have all watched dozens of Lego parodies, not much different to the video of Minecraft characters, a while ago. 14:48 zat Thx Evergreen, anyway... I still think I do not need to know blender in order to criticize a video. 14:49 Evergreen ^ True 14:49 Evergreen It's mostly all the particles and special effects 14:49 zat I was going to be a professional 3d animator, with blender... but I abandoned it 8 years ago 14:49 zat and decided to develop software 14:49 Evergreen that is difficult 14:49 zat Yes john_minetest. 14:49 zat Maybe 7, I am not sure. 14:50 zat But I had just finished high school then. 14:50 zat So it was around 7 or 8 years ago. 14:51 zat well I did many tricks lol 14:51 zat I still have the original blend files 14:52 zat WTF lol 14:52 zat john_minetest: you must compare my video to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU3oOTcbDd8 14:53 PilzAdam ShadowBot, huh? 14:58 RBMK Is there a portal gun for MT? 14:58 PilzAdam there are teleport arrows in my bows mod 14:58 RBMK mk 14:59 thexyz who the fuck did remove that awesome desu post 14:59 nore the problem is that a portal would need to be entered 15:00 thexyz it was resting in offtopic and they someone came and killed it 15:00 nore and for that, the node behind it would need to be set non-solid 15:01 zsoltisawesome why are we talking about portals? 15:02 RBMK Why not? 15:02 zat john_minetest: checked it? 15:03 zsoltisawesome Just wondering where the conversation started 15:03 zat john_minetest: noticeable the influence? lol 15:04 zsoltisawesome S 15:05 zsoltisawesome I have a word that has 9 letters in it, try to guess it! 15:05 zat abcdeffgihj 15:05 zat uh typed it wrong 15:05 Exio4 zsoltisaw 15:05 Exio4 there 15:05 zsoltisawesome Nope 15:05 Exio4 9 letters, where is my prize 15:06 zsoltisawesome It's not right 15:06 RBMK zsoltisawesome: idk 15:06 RBMK zsoltisawesome: 2 minutes ago 15:06 RBMK zsoltisawesome: I'm saying I would like to see the portal gun in MT 15:06 zsoltisawesome John_minetest: Very close 15:06 zsoltisawesome Oh 15:07 zsoltisawesome Nope 15:07 zsoltisawesome Its something minetest related 15:07 RBMK ? 15:07 Exio4 mese crystal 15:08 RBMK I've always wondered how one could render MT maps. 15:08 RBMK Automatically, without blender. 15:08 zsoltisawesome Nope 15:08 PilzAdam RBMK, there is a program for it 15:08 RBMK Good. 15:08 RBMK It's not OS-dependent, right? 15:08 PilzAdam it also has a built-in map editor 15:08 RBMK Cool. 15:09 PilzAdam no, it runs on windows, linux and osx 15:09 zsoltisawesome Awesome! 15:09 RBMK PilzAdam: it's closed source? 15:09 PilzAdam no, open source 15:09 zsoltisawesome Solaris? 15:09 RBMK Has anyone tried building it on BSD? 15:09 PilzAdam yes, it runs fine AFAIK 15:09 PilzAdam its on github, lemme get the link... 15:10 PilzAdam there: https://github.com/minetest/minetest 15:10 zsoltisawesome I would ask you the same question for Solaris 15:10 zsoltisawesome What? That's the minetest git 15:10 markveidemanis You think its funny... 15:11 markveidemanis But really thats really stupid 15:11 RBMK PilzAdam: *slow clap* 15:11 redravid has any one here used the teleport mod? 15:11 * RBMK sprays some neurotoxin around 15:11 * markveidemanis starts shivering 15:12 RBMK markveidemanis: o/ 15:13 redravid im trying to find the recipe to make a teleporter 15:14 redravid but its not on the mods forum post 15:14 * markveidemanis flies up 15:16 Exio4 lol, gg PilzAdam 15:16 Exio4 that was a good move 15:18 NekoGloop minetestmapper's still a thing right? 15:19 Exio4 without leveldb support, though 15:25 RBMK markveidemanis: how's the science? 15:26 markveidemanis science? 15:26 RBMK Science. 15:26 markveidemanis I feel a little bit sick from all this neurotoxin 15:27 RBMK Good. 15:45 RBMK Why do servers eat that much CPU idle? 15:46 RBMK like 5% each on a 2000 MHz machine 15:46 RBMK Oh. No. I revoke the question. The clock was 300 MHz while observing. 15:47 RBMK Machines with variable clock are confusing at times. 16:07 roguejedi79 i'm getting a warning when logging into minetest that my client may not be compatible with the server. how do i tell what version the server is on? 16:08 PilzAdam roguejedi79, look at http://minetest.net/servers or the forum topic of the server 16:09 PilzAdam hmm... the list at http://minetest.net/servers seems to be broken 16:09 roguejedi79 didnt have any luck there earlier but i'll check again. thank you 16:09 PilzAdam proller, any ideas? 16:10 roguejedi79 stupidly enough, i'm playing on my own server, my client is .4.7, just dont know how to tell what my server is at 16:18 sfan5 !op 16:19 RBMK sfan5: o/ 16:19 RBMK How's the patch? 16:19 sfan5 RBMK: are you reactor? 16:20 RBMK I am. 16:20 RBMK Oh hi. 16:33 markveidemanis Where can i get the source for the serverlist? 16:34 thexyz markveidemanis: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/master/util/master 16:37 markveidemanis thats it? 16:37 markveidemanis ok 16:37 thexyz yes, both server and client code 16:38 markveidemanis ok 16:39 markveidemanis im gonna test it 16:39 thexyz test it how? 16:39 markveidemanis wait, what about the fancy one on the website? 16:40 PilzAdam markveidemanis, thats the same source 16:40 PilzAdam the table is just placed inside of a wiki page 16:40 markveidemanis ok 16:40 markveidemanis what do i do with the perl file? 16:41 PilzAdam what perl file? 16:41 markveidemanis master.cgi 16:42 PilzAdam run it 16:44 markveidemanis http://f.marktest.co.uk/ uploaded and extracted everything there 16:44 RBMK mk 16:44 fhgfhfghfh im developing a infiniminer clone for pc 16:44 PilzAdam markveidemanis, now you need minetest servers that announce to that server 16:44 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: very original name. *slow clap* 16:45 fhgfhfghfh ok, virtualfall 16:45 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: so why not jointhe development of MT? 16:45 RBMK s/nt/n t/ 16:45 fhgfhfghfh why the irrlicht engine is bad... 16:45 RBMK Together we stand, dividing we fall. (c) Pink Floyd. 16:45 Jordach that would be a start, yes 16:45 RBMK irrlicht is not perfect, but not bad 16:46 Jordach still better than ogre 16:46 RBMK at least one can compile it on BSd without problems 16:46 RBMK s/Sd/SD/ 16:46 fhgfhfghfh the project page: www.develteam.com/Game/MinerLife/ 16:46 RBMK mk 16:47 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 16:47 PilzAdam fhgfhfghfh, whats the license? where do I download the source? 16:47 fhgfhfghfh ( is in development :P ) 16:48 RBMK Well that page has just rendered my terminal unresponsive. 16:48 fhgfhfghfh why? 16:48 PilzAdam oh, that kind of project... 16:49 RBMK PilzAdam: what kind of? 16:49 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: idk. 16:49 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: it just did 16:49 PilzAdam RBMK, its currently in the "idea state" 16:49 RBMK I had to kill links. 16:49 RBMK PilzAdam: oh. 16:49 RBMK -_- 16:49 fhgfhfghfh ... http://www.develteam.com/src/images/avatar_blank_100.jpg 16:49 PilzAdam and my experience is that it will not get far 16:49 RBMK "I will do that and that and blablabla." 16:50 RBMK Well, I will take over the world. 16:50 RBMK Just saying. 16:50 PilzAdam anyway, fhgfhfghfh, you should use the Minetest engine 16:50 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: yep 16:50 fhgfhfghfh is in C++? 16:51 PilzAdam what you describe in the blog posts is perfectly doable with the Minetest API 16:51 Jordach yes 16:51 fhgfhfghfh hmm..... 16:51 RBMK I'm not sure mow many people in the world are trying to reinvent the bicycle. 16:51 RBMK Because of such people there are lame things like dbus, hal and pulseaudio. 16:51 PilzAdam the engine is written in c++, but the game will be written in Lua using the API 16:51 RBMK And systemd. 16:51 Jordach agreed with Adam here :P 16:52 Jordach better, didnt have 24hr timestamps active lol 16:53 fhgfhfghfh with this engine the game is possible to put in consoles? (openpandora etc...) 16:53 PilzAdam Minetest runs pretty much on everything where you can port irrlicht to 16:54 PilzAdam sooo... ask the Irrlicht people ;-) 16:54 Jordach and not us :P 16:54 fhgfhfghfh Why Raspberry Pi is bad for mt? 16:54 PilzAdam the server can run on a PI 16:55 Jordach because it is just too slow for 3d gaming 16:56 RBMK But RPI has a GPU, doesn't it? 16:56 Jordach yes, but it is underpowered for gaming 16:56 RBMK mk 16:57 fhgfhfghfh Esist a BitCoin mod for mt? (ps: sorry for the questions) 16:57 RBMK Hmm. 16:57 RBMK I wonder what machine I could buy for data processing using CUDA. 16:59 fhgfhfghfh Ask on Stack Exange ;) 16:59 fhgfhfghfh RBMK 17:00 RBMK fhgfhfghfh: if I wanted to ask there, I would ask there. 17:01 RBMK Bitcoins is waste of CPU cycles. 17:01 RBMK Waste of fuel, ultimately. 17:01 fhgfhfghfh Strangely I by mistake ... 17:02 RBMK Real money base on gold. Gold is mined, and is a real, useful material. 17:02 fhgfhfghfh Error: You are banned from this forum. 17:02 RBMK And bitcoins base on hard-to-calculate functions. Which don't do anything useful, but waste energy. 17:03 RBMK Has the humanity gone completely mad? 17:03 PilzAdam thexyz, ^ can you check the IP ban? 17:03 RBMK Aha. 17:03 RBMK Wasn't that IP of a griefer? 17:05 Jordach lol 17:07 Calinou RBMK: energy can be renewable, gold can't :P 17:07 RBMK Calinou: fundamentally, energy is not renewable. 17:07 RBMK Entropy of a closes system can only increase. 17:07 RBMK closed* 17:07 RBMK Though it's a question to resolve whether the Universe is a closed system. 17:08 Jordach nope.avi 17:08 RBMK Calinou: you waste that energy as heat. That heat can not be made into anything useful. 17:09 Calinou heating houses? :> 17:09 fhgfhfghfh xd 17:10 Jordach RBMK, dont feed the troll 17:10 RBMK I don't. 17:11 RBMK Brb. 17:11 fhgfhfghfh is possible create a portal gun mod for minetest? 17:12 thexyz fhgfhfghfh: are you the one who posted that topic full of DESU~? 17:13 fhgfhfghfh no d: (what is desu?) 17:14 thexyz hm... well, I dunno what you're banned for but sfan5 did that 17:15 sfan5 thexyz: probably a dynamic ip issue 17:16 thexyz yeah sure of course 17:16 RBMK Rostelecom are shitheads. 17:16 thexyz sfan5: what did you ban him/her for? 17:16 sfan5 'Insulting, Spam' 17:17 thexyz that's not very descriptive 17:18 thexyz this is what bothers me 17:18 thexyz we can ban users for any or no reason and there's no way for them to appeal the ban 17:19 RBMK So what, set up mailing lists for your server. 17:19 jemadux on minetest i need the craft table as minecraft ? 17:19 RBMK No. 17:22 thexyz no 17:23 sfan5 thexyz: not very descriptive? Insulting was for ' Megaf, someone called jeckiojen just posted in the servers section "MEGAF IS GAY..... SHHH!!!!!' 17:25 zat omfg calling someone gay is so 1995 17:25 thexyz wait, wait, I'm sure this is the same guy who posted that topic with lots of desu then 17:25 RBMK_ Did I miss something? 17:26 RBMK_ What is "desu"? 17:26 RBMK_ Isn't that some ba Japanese word? 17:26 RBMK_ s/ba/bad/ 17:26 RBMK Fucking Rostelecom, again. 17:26 thexyz insulting users is no good, I agree 17:27 sfan5 thexyz: yes 17:27 sfan5 s/yes/yes, it was that guy/ 17:27 thexyz but infinite ban is no good either, I think 17:27 thexyz in that particular case 17:27 zat hey thexyz 17:28 sfan5 if the first 2 things you do on the forum is insulting and flooding.. 17:30 Jordach then expect a ban.. 17:31 Jordach RBMK, get a better isp 17:31 RBMK There's no other ISP in our pisshole. 17:32 thexyz zat: hey 17:32 RBMK Toilet City. 17:33 Jordach ...is that the german version of 99 red balloons? 17:34 Jordach yes, yes it is 17:38 RBMK ? 17:38 RBMK 99 Luftballons? I haven't heard the song for quite a while. 17:43 Evergreen Anyone played gbrainy before? It has some interesting verbal and logical puzzles 17:43 Jordach Evergreen, nope.avi 17:45 RBMK Jordach: ? 17:46 Megaf thanks sfan5 17:47 proller PilzAdam, http://minetest.net/servers uses wrong list parser modified by celeron55, it needs to be replaced with original script from http://servers.minetest.net/ 17:50 nore proller, I noticed there are problems with lava on your server 17:50 nore there is lava, but the layer is so thin that it is not visible 17:51 nore and it can't flow since it is at min level 17:51 nore I reckon that in this case, lava (and water) should slowly evaporate 17:51 Jordach huh 17:52 RBMK 1btw 17:52 RBMK Was the mod that made lava break glass ever finished? 17:53 zat Lava should break glass only in case of a sudden temperature change 17:53 zat lol 17:54 RBMK well, it should melt it eventually 17:54 proller nore, water can evaporate, but lava - not. visual of min level - maybe fixed in -next 17:55 RBMK Yes, lava should not evaporate. 17:55 RBMK It does, in fact, evaporate, but too slowly for modelling to be necessary. 17:56 nore there are graphical glitches with water too 17:57 nore and there is a lot of lava floating in mid-air? Why doesn't it fall? 17:58 RBMK Superconductor levitation. 17:58 RBMK Yet, lava is way too hot to be a superconductor. 17:58 proller it was BIG BUG with melting stone 8) 17:59 proller but strange, need to look at abm 18:01 proller nore, abm works if liquid queue is ~empty 18:01 fhgfhfghfh Hi 18:01 RBMK o/ 18:01 proller on this server when many players queue always full 18:01 NekoGloop 3ds friend codeses? 18:02 fhgfhfghfh yes, i have a 3ds! 18:02 fhgfhfghfh send me a pm 18:02 RBMK ? 18:02 NekoGloop like that? 18:05 RBMK Uh. 18:05 RBMK max_lag = 24 18:05 RBMK What could cause that? 18:06 proller nore, wait 1-2 days and lava will fall or cools to stone after rain 18:09 fhgfhfghfh the future of minetest? 18:11 RBMK Making Minecraft obsolete. 18:12 fhgfhfghfh wow... 18:12 fhgfhfghfh you need a big team for this... 18:12 sfan5 holy sh**, I just wrote the most unreadable js line 18:13 thexyz what's it? 18:13 sfan5 window[(1071753937337).toString(36)][(286).toString(17) + 'tE' + (973734291).toString(34) + (11).toString(12).toUpperCase() + 'yI' + (13).toString(14)]((620604110).toString(32))[27-1+3-29][(616342319).toString(30)+String.fromCharCode(78)+(15339).toString(25)][(616342319).toString(30)+String.fromCharCode(78)+(15339).toString(25)][(1440073124).toString(35)](); 18:15 thexyz are you writing some exploit or what? 18:15 RBMK Woah. 18:15 sfan5 no 18:16 sfan5 an exploit would need more space for the shellcode and heap spray coe 18:16 sfan5 *code 18:17 sfan5 that line removes the parent's parent of the Dom element with the name 'iframe' 18:22 Jordach fuckin hell sfN5 18:23 Jordach sfan5* 18:28 Dan_D Anyone gonna try VanessaE's nostalgia server? 18:28 RBMK no 18:28 RBMK What does "nostalgia server" mean? 18:29 RBMK I mean, maybe I'm gonna, but not now... too drowsy. 18:30 Jordach dan d just spammed lol 18:54 RBMK ?! 18:54 RBMK What is "nostalgia server"? 18:55 PilzAdam ¿¡ 18:55 RBMK It's the second time I heard that word combination. 18:55 RBMK PlizAdam: you're confusing me. 18:55 PilzAdam who are you talking to? 18:55 RBMK idk 18:56 RBMK My internal voice? 19:00 sfan5 firefox is 100% more helpful when debugging js code that looks similar to what I posted above 19:03 markveidemanis john: PLIZ ADAM 19:03 markveidemanis ПИЛЗ АДАМ 19:04 proller ПИЗД АДАМ 19:08 Evergreen sfan5: Firebug ftw 19:09 proller aд == hell 19:18 sfan5 Evergreen: heh.. I was not using firebug this time but the built-in inspector 19:19 proller john_minetest, yes, but need any word before " ада" 19:21 proller but it not == hell 19:22 sfan5 ????? 19:22 sfan5 ? 19:22 * sfan5 is confused 19:22 sfan5 it is doing it again 19:22 sfan5 my dns server is pointing random domains at 127.0.0.1 :( 19:23 thexyz proller: but its syntax is 19:24 Calinou john_minetest: noone uses ada anyway 19:24 Calinou I don't think it was invented by french 19:26 thexyz not noone 19:26 thexyz it's used for planes, i think 19:26 RBMK ? 19:27 thexyz even wikipedia example is about airplanes 19:40 sfan5 wow, command-not-found breaks when setting LANG to C 19:40 sfan5 ""Die Anwendung \xbbllvm-ld\xab ist momentan nicht installiert. Sie k\xf6nnen sie"" 19:41 RBMK Die, Anwendung, die! 19:41 RBMK It's your terminal that can't display special German chars. 19:41 sfan5 no 19:42 sfan5 If I "export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8" it works again 19:42 RBMK вызвавших смертБ подопытный 19:43 sfan5 what is more strange: packages don't contain what they are supposed to 19:44 RBMK ? 19:44 RBMK What packages? 19:44 Jordach dafuq 19:44 RBMK In Debian, it's normal for packages to be broken. 19:44 RBMK Heck, it's Debian. 19:44 Jordach hahahahahaha 19:44 sfan5 lol 19:45 sfan5 RBMK: like this http://pastie.org/8414981 19:47 RBMK sfan5: I suck at German. 19:47 PilzAdam lol 19:47 RBMK what is that "??????????????????:? 19:47 RBMK Debilian 19:48 sfan5 RBMK: "?" translated from German to English is "?" 19:48 sfan5 haha 19:49 RBMK sfan5: I got it. 19:49 RBMK What are they doing? 19:49 sfan5 I even had to add a symlink to get clang to find stdarg.h 19:49 sfan5 they broke everything 19:50 sfan5 almost 19:51 RBMK It's Debian eh! 19:51 RBMK Can never upgrade without breaking anything. 19:52 Jordach 0gb must be outdated then.. 19:54 sfan5 Jordach: if he updated he will be 1gb 19:54 Jordach ZING! 19:55 RBMK john_minetest: NetBSD. 19:55 RBMK cmake, git are not proper tools 19:55 RBMK make and rcs are 19:55 RBMK eh. 19:55 RBMK Windows :( 19:55 Jordach > mercurial > proper tool 19:55 RBMK Windows should be deprecated. 19:55 Jordach keep dreaming 19:56 sfan5 john_minetest: clang is a cross compiler for everything (if you have headers and libs) 19:56 Jordach some people = 0 19:56 RBMK clang != cmake 19:56 sfan5 it compiles for AArch32/64, x86(-64) and more out of the box 19:56 RBMK "true" 19:57 Jordach dat one person 19:57 Jordach john, make ry 19:57 RBMK Windows. Come on. 19:57 RBMK Who needs it. 19:57 Jordach your own distro 19:58 RBMK Oh yeah, try and roll your own. 19:58 RBMK God I hate the word "distro". It sounds too Spanish. 19:58 sfan5 john_minetest: knoppix + sudo apt-get install mingw 19:58 * Calinou slaps RBMK with "libre" 19:58 Jordach feck this samsung galaxy tab 7 2.0, i cant fucking type 19:59 RBMK Pwned. 19:59 RBMK Use _real_ keyboards. 19:59 sfan5 s/fucking/fecking/ 19:59 RBMK Screen keyboards suck. 19:59 Calinou john_minetest: it'd be cool if distros had commonly used dependencies installed, such as cmake, git, svn, a compiler, SDL, libjpeg, libpng and so on 19:59 Jordach oh shush :P 20:00 PilzAdam Calinou, the average *buntu user doesnt need a compiler 20:00 sfan5 the do it! 20:00 sfan5 then* 20:01 PilzAdam from Penny? 20:01 Jordach john, good luck 20:01 sfan5 käse-sahne sauce mhmmm.. 20:01 Jordach fuck is that? 20:01 RBMK That is fuck. 20:02 Jordach yaaic ftw btw 20:02 RBMK Fuck that. That fuck. 20:02 Jordach hai reactor 20:02 RBMK o/ 20:02 RBMK How'd you guess?! 20:02 Jordach because omnipotemce 20:02 Jordach fuckin keyboard 20:02 RBMK potemce 20:03 RBMK Pwned. 20:03 Jordach i can just see through ruses 20:04 RBMK ? 20:04 RBMK I can see for miles and miles! 20:04 RBMK (c) The Who 20:04 Jordach rbmk: saying netnsd gave it away 20:05 Jordach bsd* 20:16 Calinou oh, you're reactor? 20:16 Calinou :< 20:17 Calinou apparently you are 20:17 Calinou hi LazyJ :) 20:17 LazyJ Howdy, Calinou :) 20:17 RBMK Calinou: how'd you guess?! 20:18 Calinou RBMK: whois 20:18 RBMK Hell. 20:18 RBMK I thought it was about manner of speech, again. 20:19 sfan5 nice, the ubuntu people broke wireshark too 20:20 RBMK Give up Debilian. 20:20 RBMK Eh. 20:20 RBMK It's dying. 20:32 RBMK ? 20:33 Calinou it's hard to make debian packages 20:33 Calinou :< 20:34 svuorela bullshit 20:35 RBMK It's harder to make them actually work. 20:38 zsoltisawesome Hi! 20:39 Calinou svuorela: never succeeded at it :/ 20:39 Calinou hi zsoltisawesome :) I gtg night 20:40 svuorela Calinou: given I've in teh maintainer fields of k* and q* I have kind of succeeded. 20:40 Calinou k* and q*? 20:40 svuorela KDE stack and Qt stack 20:41 Calinou ah 20:41 RBMK Meh, KDE. 20:41 RBMK And meh, QT. 20:41 RBMK They're so heavy they take two days to build. 20:41 svuorela RBMK: I've never built QuickTime 20:42 RBMK svuorela: troll detected. 20:43 zsoltisawesome It's your fault for capitalizing the t 21:02 harrison Functional programming combines the flexibility and power of abstract mathematics with the intuitive clarity of abstract mathematics. 21:05 ShadowNinja ^ stupid plugin likes to deop itself, unloaded. 21:08 NakedFury are we gonna have a channelbot remove/give Op status fight? 21:08 PilzAdam what was first, the compiler or the os? 21:10 PilzAdam Id guess humans were the first compilers 21:10 PilzAdam anyway, you should compile by hand 21:21 PilzAdam thats how you turn on a LED 21:26 Whitemau5 hello! 21:26 JackGruff hi! 21:27 Whitemau5 im not on minetest right now but im on the irc 21:27 Whitemau5 brb 21:28 Whitemau5 brb 21:28 Whitemau5 ugh 21:28 Whitemau5 im back 21:54 Jordach john, lol 21:54 Jordach plol 22:02 Jordach ...wut 22:03 harrison windows does not suit you john_minetest 22:03 harrison your motif is more linuxy imo 22:05 sfan5 "risk destroying windows" 22:05 sfan5 if you do it right nothing happens 22:06 PilzAdam your risk more if you use windows 22:06 sfan5 -r 22:07 sfan5 you mean installing ubuntu into the windows ntfs sys? 22:07 sfan5 s/sys/filesys/ 22:12 Jordach hello menche 22:13 Menche hello 22:29 fairiestoy Hey guys, is the burntime / cooktime meant as seconds or is it just a number to count down the ticks? If the second option, can it be used as second-based value? 22:30 PilzAdam the second thing 22:30 fairiestoy So would it be bad if i take it as 'real' time meant as in seconds? 22:32 PilzAdam its used in an ABM with interval of 1 second, so its not that wrong 22:33 fairiestoy Yeah thats the point. I want to replace the ABM with a time-based alternative. Although i have problems with minetest.get_craft_result but my first question came up while discussing it on my favourite server 22:35 fairiestoy Thanks for explaining it. 22:41 sfan5 good night everyone 22:41 NakedFury good night 22:41 pitriss night sfan5 22:47 Jordach night sfan5 22:49 Megaf folks, when the unban command will be fixed? 22:49 Megaf this is an OLD bug 22:49 Megaf I would fix it myself, but I dont know how 22:49 ShadowNinja Megaf: Logs? 22:49 Megaf why? 22:49 Megaf its a know bug 22:50 Megaf when you use /unban the server just shut down 22:50 Megaf and dont unban 22:50 ShadowNinja Megaf: Not to me, although I unban users manually. 22:50 PilzAdam I dont know this bug 22:50 Megaf just ban someone with /ban 22:50 Megaf then try /unban nick 22:52 Menche wasn't that fixed? like a long time ago? 22:52 PilzAdam just give us the logs 22:52 Megaf i wont crash my server now 22:53 Menche i remember something like that 22:53 Megaf PilzAdam, 22:53 Megaf $ cat debug.txt | grep unban 22:53 Megaf 13:49:30: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...inetest-minetest-7734717/bin/../builtin/chatcommands.lua:647: attempt to call field 'unban_player_or_ip' (a nil value) 22:53 Megaf thats from the last time I used unban 22:54 PilzAdam what Minetest version is that? 22:54 Megaf any of the 0.4 22:54 Menche not very specific 22:54 Megaf always get from github 22:54 Megaf 7734717 22:54 Menche updated recently? i remembered a bug like that which was fixed. 22:54 ShadowNinja Megaf: l_unban_player_or_ip was misspelled as l_unban_player_of_ip, but that should only be a internal bug. 22:55 ShadowNinja Megaf: You compile after every git pull? 22:55 Megaf ShadowNinja, not really 22:55 ShadowNinja Megaf: Then compile. 22:55 Menche er, it doesn't really do much good to pull if you don't build the update :P 22:55 Megaf once and a while, this build is pretty new 22:55 PilzAdam that was a bug after the scriptapi split, and IIRC it was fixed before a stable releaase 22:58 PilzAdam hmm... it was fixed after 0.4.7 stable 23:51 Peacock jesus christ the new microwave is huge - had to rearrange all my counterspace lol 23:52 Peacock where's martha stewart when you need her