Time  Nick            Message
00:01 * Nocte         pokes zat
00:02 zat             my pc is really slow now but I wil check it
00:02 zat             and if I like it I wil make it lolol
00:18 Nocte           Going to bed. Later all.
00:36 cy1             Someone want to tell me why minetest sits around for a minute saying "Item textures..." when I'm connecting to a server on my LAN?
00:36 cy1             Seriously it's still going.
00:37 cy1             Every time I connect.
00:37 ndjdjksisksk    how many mods do you ave on there
00:49 ndjdjksisksk    hi people that have joined the minetest chanel
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi'
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:57 ndjdjksisksk    hi
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    um i am kicked for saying hi
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    wtf
00:58 zat             repeatedly D:
00:58 us}0gb          Yes.
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    lol
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    i know
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    just no one was responding
00:58 arsdragonfly    ?
00:58 ndjdjksisksk    i was talking and no one responded
00:59 us}0gb          You were asking cy1, so I stayed out of it.
01:00 * arsdragonfly  is checkin' out the log
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    um what?
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    no
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    i as not asking cy1 anything?
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    oh ecept for the mod thing
01:00 Peacock         get out, and take your dishonour with you
01:00 us}0gb          <ndjdjksisksk> how many mods do you ave on there
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    yep i remember
01:00 ndjdjksisksk    sorry
01:01 ndjdjksisksk    sorry
01:01 zat             ndjdjksisksk: the question of the mods was for me?
01:01 ndjdjksisksk    um i have no idea
01:01 ndjdjksisksk    and no this is not dishonor
01:01 ndjdjksisksk    sorry if it seemed likr that
01:01 * arsdragonfly  is enjoying a 7-day-long bank holiday
01:02 ndjdjksisksk    (i fail)
01:02 arsdragonfly    it's so silent today :-)
01:02 Peacock         thats aiight, the americans are enjoying a gov't holiday :P
01:02 ndjdjksisksk    lol
01:03 ndjdjksisksk    well no one on irc likes me so bye
01:03 ndjdjksisksk    :(
01:03 zat             :c
01:03 ndjdjksisksk    :'(
01:03 zat             I am american and I am not enjoying anything
01:03 zat             you probably meant USAns.
01:03 ndjdjksisksk    i am not racist lol
01:04 ndjdjksisksk    if that is whta you menat
01:04 ndjdjksisksk    (i have no idea)
01:04 arsdragonfly    usually i can't see you talking unless i stay up late
01:04 arsdragonfly    due to timezone
01:05 Peacock         when i stay up late, i see dead people
01:06 us}0gb          When I look to the left, I see dead people.
01:06 Peacock         they could just be deranged hallucinations though
01:06 us}0gb          I'm looking for a place to stash them.
01:06 Peacock         up n'arth
01:07 us}0gb          I wish I was watching the chat when ndjdjksisksk said no one liked him/her ...
01:09 Peacock         im ready to visit the alternate universe: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7803823360/h1D688422/
01:11 harrison        not that many people on irc like me and you don't hear me complaining like a little b*****
01:11 Peacock         since when do gamers not bitch?
01:12 us}0gb          You hear me doing it every time the developers add another "feature" that worsens the game.
01:12 Peacock         the only reason gamers tend to be misogynistic is because they don't like the competition :P
01:13 us}0gb          What? I'm not misogynistic.
01:13 Peacock         ogb: thats an oss-specific thing, like unity and pulseaudio lol
01:13 Peacock         ogb: wasn't talking about you specifically :P
01:14 ndjdjksisksk    hi
01:14 ndjdjksisksk    i am back
01:14 arsdragonfly    interesting: you don't hear me complaining like a little b***** can be : I am complaining like a little b***** and you don't hear me / you're like little b*****s and ignore me
01:14 zat             I do agree with all of you.
01:15 Peacock         i disagree and move for a motion of no-confidence
01:16 dafull97        wow, argue much?
01:17 ndjdjksisksk    doh man
01:18 ndjdjksisksk    oh man
01:18 ndjdjksisksk    people
01:18 ndjdjksisksk    why argue
01:18 Peacock         only in honorable combat, with bat'leths
01:18 ndjdjksisksk    O_O
01:19 Peacock         if anyone takes what i say seriously then obviously a lobotomy wouldn't do much damage
01:20 zat             hi
01:23 ndjdjksisksk    hi zat
01:23 ndjdjksisksk    ugh lag
01:24 zat             hi
01:47 dafull97        !up 5.231.69.196 30000
01:47 MinetestBot     5.231.69.196:30000 seems to be down
01:58 AWTom           I'm never going to finish this English assignment... three times I've lost hours of work because some key combination closes lxterminal. Google doesn't seem to know how to keep it from happening
02:00 AWTom           I turned off the vim files that are supposed to keep that from happening because they filled my directories with files
02:07 arsdragonfly    auto-saving?
02:08 cy1             preload_item_visuals = false
02:08 cy1             was the answer...
02:17 AWTom           I'm learning so much about Vim :D
02:30 arsdragonfly    why do you use vim to finish your english assignment? shouldn't it be used in code editing...
02:30 us}0gb          I'm not even convinced it should be used for that.
02:32 kaeza           I'm not even convinced why would anyone use vim locally
02:32 us}0gb          Even remotely, nano is an easier tool to use.
02:33 khonkhortisan   I use vim when I don't feel like leaving the terminal
02:33 khonkhortisan   s/}/_
02:40 ShadowNinja     nano is easier, but vim is much more powerfull once you learn to use it.
02:50 * Sokomine      loves vim
02:54 AWTom           us}0gb: vim doesn't hinder essay-writing, and it's a good learning experience
02:55 hoodedice       vim for essay writing?
02:56 us}0gb          AWTom, vim doesn't hinder essay-writing any more than it hinders any other text editing.
02:56 us}0gb          Though like ShadowNinja said, if you get good with it ...
03:03 ShadowNinja     ascii > rtf/doc/pdf/etc. :-) At least in cases where you don't need embeded images and the like.
03:03 ShadowNinja     All you need is a text editor or browser to read it.
03:04 ShadowNinja     html > * When you need fancy things.
03:05 us}0gb          I agree.
03:06 us}0gb          My courses unfortunately require me to use .doc/.docx, but for all my own stuff, I use .txt/.xhtml.
03:07 hoodedice       I use google drive
03:08 hoodedice       Because I travel frequently
03:08 ShadowNinja     ^ That is nice.
03:09 Fury            google drive, microsoft skydrive, box, evernote, and others
03:13 Wuzzy           Hi, how can I change the speed of an animated texture on a face of a node?
03:14 Sokomine        hm, take a look at the tv from homedecor. perhaps that helps? in comparison with a normal torch
03:24 Wuzzy           ah, it’s the “length” paramter.
03:24 Wuzzy           And I thought it was for specifying the number of frames. lol
03:24 Wuzzy           Problem solved!
03:28 * NekoGloop     pets Fuzzy Wuzzy
03:32 cy1             https://github.com/cyisfor/inventory_sorter/
03:32 cy1             VanessaE: ^^^
03:34 OldCoder        Hi
03:35 OldCoder        I am being asked... What is the total player base for MT? Number of people?
03:35 us}0gb          Five.
03:35 OldCoder        This has to do with new servers that may be set up
03:35 OldCoder        So be serious; somebody is waiting for my answer
03:35 OldCoder        If you wish to encourage new servers that is
03:35 OldCoder        Or I could just drop the matter
03:35 us}0gb          Sorry, I have no way to know. We're decentralized.
03:35 OldCoder        I know; looking for guestimates
03:35 OldCoder        Based on known server traffic perhaps
03:36 cy1             83 people in room
03:36 us}0gb          I don't know. I'd say we're probably at least in the high three digits.
03:36 us}0gb          Maybe.
03:36 us}0gb          510?
03:37 us}0gb          That's a good round number guess.
03:37 ShadowNinja     OldCoder: Players on all servers combined at one time?
03:37 OldCoder        Typical players over a period of time
03:37 OldCoder        Say a week or a month
03:37 OldCoder        500 to 1,000 occasional players then
03:37 OldCoder        Might be optimistic but achievable
03:37 ShadowNinja     Hmmm, a few hundred at least.
03:38 OldCoder        So 250 to 750
03:38 OldCoder        Thank you!
03:40 Sokomine        hi oldcoder
03:43 OldCoder        Sokomine, Hi!
03:58 hoodedice       ...
04:03 * Sokomine      grabs a dot from hoodedice and runs away with it
04:03 hoodedice       ..
04:04 Sokomine        :-)
04:04 Sokomine        hi :)
04:07 hoodedice       Hey
04:13 hoodedice       With minetest I feel like I'm making a powerpoint presentation
04:14 hoodedice       *Click* *Click* type *click* type *move* *Click* *Click* type
04:37 hoodedice       Devs?
04:37 hoodedice       Fog is kinda weird
04:38 us}0gb          THat's why I disable it on my client.
04:38 Miner_48er      why?
04:38 hoodedice       Disable fog?
04:38 hoodedice       How?
04:38 us}0gb          Yeah, I disable fog. And particles.
04:38 us}0gb          Minetest.conf: enable_fog = false
04:39 hoodedice       Miner_48er: See, when I say, put fps_wanted as 30, the fog increases or decreases the amount of nodes on screen until I get that value
04:39 Miner_48er      ok
04:39 hoodedice       So, the result is that the first 10 seconds or so, when you are just standing looking at something, the fps actually goes down
04:39 us}0gb          But if you enable shaders in the stable version, you get fog even if you try disabling it in minetest.conf. In that case, hit F3 when you enter the game, but every time you enter, you'll need to disable it with F3 again.
04:40 hoodedice       because it is calculating the amount of view_distance for fps_wanted
04:40 hoodedice       us}0gb: I'll try that
04:40 us}0gb          The other cool setting is "show_debug = true".
04:41 us}0gb          No more hitting F5 to see coordinates.
04:41 hoodedice       Why would I want that? lol
04:42 hoodedice       Much better now, thanks us}0gb
04:42 us}0gb          Yeah, no problem.
04:42 us}0gb          WHich junk, show_debug or enable_fog?
04:42 hoodedice       Although it still looks weird, but the horrible fps pings is down at least
04:42 hoodedice       enable_fog
04:43 us}0gb          I think it makes the game look more professional. But disabling it makes the game more enjoyable.
04:43 hoodedice       Hmm
04:44 hoodedice       What was the button for max nodes again?
04:44 hoodedice       max distance I mean
04:44 us}0gb          If I understand what you mean, "r".
04:44 hoodedice       Maximum viewing range
04:44 hoodedice       Not r
04:45 us}0gb          DO you mean to raise that? If yes, try "+".
04:45 us}0gb          On a US keyboard, you'll need to hold shift for that to work.
04:46 hoodedice       I use the NUMPAD +
04:46 us}0gb          Hmm. I lack a numpad.
04:46 hoodedice       It changes the minimum viewind range value
04:47 hoodedice       I need to decrease max because of that node calculating thingy I said
04:47 us}0gb          Decrease? Use "-".
04:47 hoodedice       That's minimum viewing
04:47 hoodedice       I got it
04:47 us}0gb          Okay, I don't know what you mean then.
04:48 hoodedice       viewing_range_nodes_max
04:48 us}0gb          Okay, got it.
04:50 hoodedice       Do you need to restart the game to load the conf?
04:50 hoodedice       restart = CLOSE and open minetest
04:51 us}0gb          Yeah, and you have to edit it while Minetest is already closed. Minetest saves the old settings to the file when it closes.
04:54 hoodedice       I saw my brother playing minecraft a few days ago
04:55 hoodedice       And I got one reason for it's graphics - Cheap Instagram like filters
04:56 hoodedice       So
04:57 hoodedice       You put a transparent image on the HUD, with only it's borders semitransparent
04:57 us}0gb          I played Minecraft twice. It wasn't the game for me.
04:57 hoodedice       With whatever colours you want to tint
04:57 hoodedice       Voila, cheap, non-fps dropping GFX that will surely receive WOAHs
04:58 hoodedice       Now is there any way to mod the HUD?
04:59 kaeza           yes
05:00 kaeza           grep 'hud' lua_api.txt
05:00 hoodedice       What should I look at in lua_api?
05:00 kaeza           ...how about "HUD" ?
05:00 hoodedice       lol found it
05:01 hoodedice       Thank God (and other people) for Ctrl+F
05:25 us}0gb          Does Minetest have explosions now? I'm seeing an on_blast() callback that is set off in the case of an explosion.
05:40 hoodedice       Bah I don't get it
05:42 hoodedice       What is this Definition Tables thingy?
05:43 us}0gb          They hold node definitions and other definitions.
05:44 us}0gb          Basically, if it's defined in Lua and passed to a registration function, it's probably in one of those tables.
05:44 hoodedice       ?
05:44 hoodedice       still blank
05:45 us}0gb          minetest.regiseter_node("plugin:node", {}) would upt plugin:node in one of those tables.
05:45 us}0gb          *put
05:46 hoodedice       ok, leav that
05:46 hoodedice       How do I go about gettng the syntax for modding
05:47 us}0gb          Do you mean the Lua syntax? Google "Lua syntax".
05:51 hoodedice       us}0gb: You free now?
05:53 us}0gb          It depends on how free you need me to be. I'm working on homework, but I can chat here and there.
05:53 hoodedice       hmm. brb
06:02 hoodedice       Back.
06:02 hoodedice       Okay, lemme say this: I have little to no programming xp
06:02 hoodedice       So I might ask stupid questions
06:02 hoodedice       *WILL ask
06:03 us}0gb          Well, you're not going to ba able to do much without learning basic Lua. I'd start there.
06:03 hoodedice       Q1: minetest.register_
06:03 us}0gb          *be
06:04 hoodedice       If I'm registering a node, I write _node, and for entities, _entity
06:04 hoodedice       So, for HUD, _hud
06:05 us}0gb          I know nothing about the HUD.
06:05 hoodedice       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L461
06:06 hoodedice       Lemme tell you this. Making nodes isn't hard because there is plenty of examples floating around. Not the same schist with HUDs or other stuff
06:06 hoodedice       Isn't the style of coding same for all elements?
06:10 Hunterz         please where is stored setting osf server, if mod do for example this? minetest.setting_set("static_spawnpoint", minetest.pos_to_string(pos))
06:10 Hunterz         after restart server there no this variable set :(
06:16 us}0gb          THe server reads its settings from minetest.conf.
06:17 us}0gb          hoodedice, not many have explored that territory yet.
06:17 hoodedice       Yes, but all Help I need from you is just an explanation of ( , and {
06:17 hoodedice       When and why do I use those?
06:17 us}0gb          Those are a part of Lua.
06:18 hoodedice       Cool
06:18 us}0gb          To understand them, you need to research Lua. Parens are used for function calls and curly brackets are used for tables.
06:18 hoodedice       okaaaa.
06:18 hoodedice       y
06:23 hoodedice       I GOT IT!
06:23 hoodedice       (Why it wasn't working)
06:25 us}0gb          I don't know. I don't know what you're seeing or what your code is.
06:26 hoodedice       I finally solved problem 1: It wasn't detecting the init.lua
06:26 hoodedice       Because Windows.
06:26 us}0gb          Ah. So the solution is to remove Windows, got it.
06:27 hoodedice       Indeed
06:27 hoodedice       (init.lua.txt Fudge my donkey, Bill Gates)
06:28 us}0gb          Ha ha. I hate hidden extensions and Windows, but I feel obligated to tell you that there is technically a way to make it quit hiding them without switching.
06:28 hoodedice       I did switch to Xubuntu
06:29 us}0gb          Oh, okay, good.
06:29 hoodedice       This is my brother's PC. So I don't ess around with it
06:29 hoodedice       *mess
06:29 us}0gb          Yeah .... I'd love to Trisquel my mother's computer, but I don't dare.
06:31 hoodedice       OMG https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6342
06:31 hoodedice       Time for copy paste
06:34 hoodedice       I finally understand  almost everything I needed to
06:34 hoodedice       lol
06:34 us}0gb          Awesome!
06:36 khonkhortisan   init.lua.txt? Kill it with fire!
06:36 * khonkhortisan aims a high-powered electromatic laser at the notepad bits
06:36 us}0gb          I'm trying but it won't die!
06:38 khonkhortisan   I always make it stop hiding, and go single-click, and blame the admin for disabling task manager, and add middle-mouse-paste, and get access to the terminal when it's blocked, and...
06:39 hoodedice       root?
06:39 us}0gb          Does Windows even have a root?
06:40 khonkhortisan   I gave my mother's laptop an admin user called root
06:41 hoodedice       It does
06:47 hoodedice       Calinou
06:48 Calinou         hi :)
06:48 hoodedice       Does this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L461 work?
06:49 Calinou         don't know, I never used it
06:49 hoodedice       Well, can you at least understand what it is supposed to do?
06:49 kaeza           us}0gb, depends on what you mean by "root"
06:50 us}0gb          kaeza, fair enough.
06:50 hoodedice       Can it cover the entire screen with "image"?
06:50 us}0gb          Basically the user is root.
06:50 Calinou         I think it can...
06:50 kaeza           us}0gb, as superuser, usually "Administrator" (possibly localized)
06:50 hoodedice       Thanks Calinou
06:51 hoodedice       There is a SU in Windows XP
06:51 hoodedice       Press F8 just before booting
06:51 hoodedice       *Get to Safe Mode
06:51 kaeza           so F8 installs Linux? :P
06:52 us}0gb          I wish.
06:52 hoodedice       No, you get to access the SU
06:52 hoodedice       in XP
06:52 * us}0gb        would trick so many people into hitting F8 ....
06:52 hoodedice       Another Administrator account
06:52 hoodedice       Which has greater powers than the normal admin
06:53 khonkhortisan   This is on an XP: 1) press control-alt-delete to make sure task manager works. 2) start cmd.exe 3) type "reg add hkcu\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\policies\system /v disabletaskmgr /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f" without the quotes. 4) enjoy the misdirected blame 5) re-run the same command, changing the 1 into a 0.
06:53 hoodedice       (Removing passwords etc)
06:53 hoodedice       :|
06:53 khonkhortisan   "Task Manager has been disabled by your administrator." But I only changed user settings.
06:53 hoodedice       Registries *Cue the History channel meme*
06:54 khonkhortisan   Does windows 8 no longer have registries?
06:54 hoodedice       No. Just visualise the face of the dude in the meme
06:54 hoodedice       And say registries.
06:55 khonkhortisan   hehe he has an accent
06:56 hoodedice       http://pastebin.com/3pt6WkX7
06:57 hoodedice       (Seems legit)
06:57 hoodedice       (But still doesn't work)
06:57 kaeza           wat
06:57 khonkhortisan   custom_hud isn't inside hud{...should it be?...}
06:58 hoodedice       ?
06:59 kaeza           hoodedice, why are there 2 end statements when there's only one block?
06:59 kaeza           indenting code helps a lot
06:59 kaeza           +too
06:59 hoodedice       I wasn't sure how many "end"s I needed. To ensure that the program actually ended
06:59 Calinou         khonkhortisan: it does
06:59 khonkhortisan   the first end is the bad one
07:00 khonkhortisan   just based on the indentation, that is
07:00 hoodedice       The indent is wrong?
07:00 hoodedice       This code is based off of BlockMan's. Sorta.
07:00 kaeza           also, another tip: hud funcs don't work if called immediately after player joins
07:00 khonkhortisan   there should only be one end, with no indent (so it's at the same level as local function)
07:01 hoodedice       How do I change the player_call time then?
07:02 hoodedice       khonkhortisan: http://pastebin.com/rqBvHnBZ
07:04 hoodedice       Fact: The website value of minetest.net is nearly $7000
07:04 khonkhortisan   I would also personally unindent the })     I haven't touched the hud since it was added (nor before then)
07:04 us}0gb          Nice!
07:04 hoodedice       Which })
07:05 khonkhortisan   the only })
07:05 us}0gb          How do we know the monetary value of the site?
07:05 khonkhortisan   traffic?
07:05 hoodedice       Unindent one step or all?
07:05 hoodedice       Pastebin's sister site
07:06 khonkhortisan   one step, so it's equal with player:hud_add
07:06 hoodedice       http://hostcabi.net/domain/minetest.net
07:06 hoodedice       Okay
07:07 khonkhortisan   I'd like to have an extra $9 a day
07:09 hoodedice       '}' expected (to close '{' at line 4) near 'image'
07:09 khonkhortisan   ?
07:09 khonkhortisan   OH
07:09 khonkhortisan   you have no comma after position
07:09 hoodedice       http://pastebin.com/jYALDz9M
07:09 hoodedice       ...okay.
07:10 hoodedice       DAMN lol
07:10 khonkhortisan   so easy to miss
07:10 hoodedice       No errors now...
07:11 hoodedice       But look like my lil experiment failed or something
07:13 kaeza           soo...
07:13 kaeza           when do you actually call custom_hud() ?
07:13 khonkhortisan   ^
07:15 hoodedice       See BlockMan's Bteer HUD
07:15 hoodedice       *Better
07:15 kaeza           ._.
07:15 hoodedice       The code was err inspired by that
07:16 hoodedice       But I wanted to (learn_the_code)
07:16 kaeza           you did not answer my question
07:16 hoodedice       So I rewrote it
07:16 hoodedice       I wanted to see if it was possible to overlay an image on the screen
07:17 hoodedice       http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-10-03#i_3355113
07:17 hoodedice       In Blockmen's he called costum_hud () instead
07:17 hoodedice       costum NOT custom
07:17 kaeza           ...
07:18 kaeza           [04:13:04] <kaeza> when do you actually call custom_hud() ?
07:18 hoodedice       Dude...
07:18 hoodedice       IDK.
07:18 kaeza           nice...
07:18 hoodedice       I tried to grip whatever I needed to get the job done
07:19 kaeza           well, your custom hud will neder show if the code never executes
07:19 kaeza           never*
07:19 hoodedice       Yes. I see that
07:19 hoodedice       You said something about not executing on player_join
07:19 kaeza           yes
07:19 kaeza           you have to delay it a bit with minetest.after()
07:20 hoodedice       Hmm
07:20 hoodedice       I should add that at line 1. Make sure it's the first thing that gets processed
07:20 hoodedice       Weird. Bloackman's code didn't have anything like that
07:22 hoodedice       Nope. There is a bunch of code here. lol.
07:24 hoodedice       minetest.after(timeisinseconds?
07:26 khonkhortisan   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1394
07:26 VanessaE        hi all
07:26 hoodedice       Thanks
07:26 hoodedice       Hi VanessaE
07:26 khonkhortisan   hi
07:26 us}0gb          Hello!
07:31 hoodedice       New version for y'all to debug
07:31 hoodedice       http://pastebin.com/ApjZir3q
07:32 khonkhortisan   you have both "end end)" and "end) end"
07:32 hoodedice       I see that
07:33 hoodedice       Yes. But should I remove both the brackets?
07:33 hoodedice       Or add to both
07:33 khonkhortisan   go with end) end
07:33 khonkhortisan   I think?
07:33 khonkhortisan   umm
07:33 khonkhortisan   oh, "end) end)"
07:33 khonkhortisan   one for after, the other for register
07:33 hoodedice       No Both ends should have brackets
07:33 khonkhortisan   yeah
07:33 hoodedice       Ya
07:34 hoodedice       But another prob now
07:34 hoodedice       wait
07:34 hoodedice       hide_builtin is a nil value
07:34 hoodedice       On attempt to call global
07:34 khonkhortisan   right, you haven't created that function
07:35 hoodedice       Yes. Got it.
07:37 hoodedice       I don' need hide builtin. Removing
07:40 hoodedice       New Version: http://pastebin.com/BV9vgTQZ
07:41 hoodedice       Game exits to menu after five seconds and then complains that custom_hud is a nil value
07:41 hoodedice       damn. Blockman.
07:41 khonkhortisan   costum again
07:41 hoodedice       yeah lol
07:42 hoodedice       Yes, it worked - No Errors.
07:42 hoodedice       No it didn't work - hud didn't show up
07:43 hoodedice       kaeza
07:44 khonkhortisan   Did the original hud disappear? Does hud2.png exist and it didn't say it failed to load it? Does it take more than 5 seconds to fully join the server?
07:44 hoodedice       wait.
07:44 kaeza           hoodedice
07:45 hoodedice       Q1. No. Q2. Exists, no. Q3 No.
07:45 hoodedice       Kaeza, here;s the code http://pastebin.com/nrTCMJei
07:46 kaeza           hoodedice, that looks better
07:46 kaeza           the on_respawn stuff isn't needed tho'
07:46 hoodedice       Thank you and khonkhortisan
07:46 hoodedice       Okay.
07:48 hoodedice       Image doesn't show up, yet
07:48 hoodedice       Spews no errors either
07:48 kaeza           lower up a bit the delay
07:49 kaeza           5 seconds looks like too much
07:49 hoodedice         0.5
07:49 khonkhortisan   from lua_api.txt: "Left corner position of element" I can think of two left corners on an image
07:49 khonkhortisan   robocode has a flipped y axis
07:51 kaeza           blame kwolekr/hmmmm :P
07:52 hoodedice       Nope?
07:53 kaeza           yepe
07:53 hoodedice       wut?
07:53 kaeza           even 0.1 works
07:54 hoodedice       0.1 of my mod?
07:54 kaeza           :?
07:54 hoodedice       *my/Blockman/kaeza/khonkhortisan
07:54 kaeza           what are we talking about? :I
07:54 hoodedice       Nothing
07:55 khonkhortisan   Night
07:55 kaeza           night khon
07:55 hoodedice       Thanks
07:55 hoodedice       Bye
08:14 hoodedice       So...
08:15 hoodedice       ...I'll go wash the dishes.
08:15 hoodedice       Or something
08:48 JamesTait       Good morning all; happy Virus Appreciation Day! :-D
08:51 sfan5           kittens
08:51 sfan5           many kittens
08:51 sfan5           hi every1
08:55 JamesTait       Hi sfan5. :)
08:55 JamesTait       Do kittens count as a virus?
08:55 sfan5           no
08:56 JamesTait       I mean, they're small and infectious, but...
09:12 cy1             I need a mesecon circuit that goes on immediately, and goes off after a delay. Any ideas?
09:14 cy1             I tried having a parallel delayer and a direct circuit, with the idea the delayer would keep it on for a while, but when it went on the direct circuit would have no delay. That of course doesn't work because of feedback.
09:15 cy1             The delayer feeds back through the direct circuit for a while, which tells the delayer it's still fully powered.
09:15 cy1             So using a diode would be ideal in that case. But when I put a parallel diode (to prevent feedback) and a delayer, suddenly the delayer didn't delay at all, even when shutting off!
09:18 arsdragonfly    /--delayers--\
09:19 cy1             arsdragonfly: ?
09:19 arsdragonfly    start--          T-flip flop
09:20 arsdragonfly    \--direct line--/
09:20 arsdragonfly    didn't count the number of spaces
09:21 arsdragonfly    wish you could understand that graph though :P
09:21 cy1             Oh, a T-flip flop in there, so three parallel circuits?
09:21 cy1             Two direct and one delayed hm...
09:22 arsdragonfly    the two parallel circuits connect to the input of T-flip flop
09:23 arsdragonfly    when the signal go through the direct line and reaches the T-flip flop it's on
09:24 arsdragonfly    when another signal go through delayers it's off again
09:24 cy1             That would only keep it on for a brief interval..
09:25 cy1             Oh right.
09:25 arsdragonfly    w8... s/T-flip flop/XOR gate
09:25 cy1             I totally said that wrong.
09:27 cy1             I need a mesecon circuit that when input goes from off to on, it goes on immediately. when input goes from on to off, it stays on for a delay, then goes off.
09:27 cy1             Not a pulse circuit.
09:28 arsdragonfly    still very easy
09:28 arsdragonfly    s/XOR gate/OR gate
09:28 arsdragonfly    :P
09:29 Nocte           What's up?
09:30 cy1             yeah that's what I did arsdragonfly. didn't work so well. Let me get a diagram... might just be a bug!
09:33 arsdragonfly    I suggest you use an OR gate instead of connecting then together / using 2 diodes... the inputs are simply separated
09:33 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
09:34 arsdragonfly    hey Pilz
09:35 PilzAdam        !tw githubstatus
09:35 MinetestBot     The site is unavailable as we investigate issues reaching http://GitHub.com. (@githubstatus)
09:37 * arsdragonfly  can't get OpenSpades work on Linux
09:38 PilzAdam        do you have troubles compiling?
09:39 arsdragonfly    unable to run "sudo make install",and can't get the compiled binary to work either
09:40 arsdragonfly    it says "missing Gfx/HurtSprite.png" when trying to connect to any server
09:40 PilzAdam        copy the Resources/ folder to ~/.openspades/
09:41 PilzAdam        then get the packages from PakLocation.txt and place them in that Resource folder
09:41 PilzAdam        and then you can manually copy the binary to /usr/bin/ or whatever if you want
09:43 arsdragonfly    besides that, it complains about some framebuffer stuff when trying to run in fullscreen mode
09:44 Nocte           Hmm.
09:44 Nocte           What to do. :|
09:44 arsdragonfly    it runs fine on windows though, beating the **** off Jagex's butt :P
09:48 Nocte           I wish I knew some good horror movie to watch since its October and all that.
10:00 cy1             https://critter.allowed.org/stuff/mesecons%20delay%20circuit%20problem.svg
10:01 cy1             I'll try an OR gate...
10:01 cy1             ...later
10:10 Nocte           Hmm.
10:11 Nocte           Its funny that I found a good amount of ore under my house in Minetest. :p
10:16 cy1             Nocte: Which server?
10:16 cy1             ohgoditsolate
10:16 Nocte           Singleplayer one.
10:18 Nocte           The wall is almost finished! :D
10:18 cy1             ooh I see.
10:18 cy1             Nocte: Any mods?
10:18 Nocte           Hmm...
10:18 Nocte           Moreores moreblocks I think.
10:18 Nocte           And uh.. Homedecor?
10:19 Nocte           I don't remember if I had any others.
10:19 Nocte           I'm just building this wall out of standard cobblestone.
10:21 Nocte           And I did the battlements from stairs. :P
10:22 Nocte           Damn it, now I have to go and get some more stone. :[
10:25 VanessaE        good morning :)
10:26 Nocte           Now only the gate needs to be done. :D
10:32 Nocte           The wall is finished!
10:35 Nocte           What's up VanessaE?
10:35 VanessaE        not much
10:35 Nocte           Ugh, so many caves around my house. :|
10:35 Nocte           Its like, move couple blocks and you are inside a cave.
10:37 Nocte           I should go eat something now. :|
10:38 * VanessaE      offers some generic "ranch flavor" tortilla chips
10:39 paramat         ranches taste good!
10:39 VanessaE        paramat: "only" 8 seconds per chunk?  you can do better ;)
10:39 VanessaE        also hi :0
10:39 VanessaE        :)
10:40 paramat         hi! with LVM it could be faster
10:40 VanessaE        I'm just poking fun :)
10:41 Nocte           Tortilla chips. Hah, those will never beat a pizza. ;)
10:41 VanessaE        pizza...ick
10:41 paramat         heh cool
10:41 VanessaE        I used to love it, now I don't really care much for it
10:41 Nocte           Heh.
10:43 Nocte           What should I do next for the house btw? :p
10:43 Nocte           It already has walls.
10:49 Exio4           github down :(
10:51 jojoa1997       Hello
10:51 Nocte           What should I add to my house? It already has a mine beneath it and walls around it.
10:52 VanessaE        hi
10:52 jojoa1997       A drawbridge
10:52 JamesTait       An orchard.
10:52 JamesTait       And grazing land for animals.
10:53 Nocte           I don't have animal mods in this. :|
10:54 VanessaE        morning john
10:55 JamesTait       It's probably less important that they have land to graze then.  I don't think imaginary animals have big appetites. ;)
10:55 jojoa1997       Maybe a forge
10:56 JamesTait       I like to have a couple of lockable boxes around for various bits and bobs too.
11:00 Nocte           Hehe.
11:00 Nocte           The mine is basically my basement.
11:10 Nocte           Hmm.
11:10 Nocte           Is there a way to rotate blocks?
11:11 VanessaE        screwdriver
11:11 VanessaE        but that only works for blocks that support rotation
11:11 VanessaE        ("facedir")
11:12 jojoa1997       So quiet
11:12 Nocte           Hmm. How do I use the flight thing? :p and I see... :|
11:12 VanessaE        it's onyl 7:12am. :)
11:13 VanessaE        Nocte: press 'k' to enable it.  then use WASD/E/space to fly around
11:13 Nocte           Its 14:13 now. ;)
11:13 VanessaE        if you can't enable it,   /grant singleplayer all    and try again
11:13 VanessaE        (assumign you're playing single-player locally)
11:14 Nocte           So many islands. o.o
11:16 VanessaE        finally
11:16 * VanessaE      runs her update mods script..
11:17 Nocte           What types of maps do you guys prefer? :p
11:17 VanessaE        oh of course
11:18 jojoa1997       I prefer
11:18 VanessaE        github's being DDoS'd again.
11:18 jojoa1997       What is ddos'd
11:18 jojoa1997       And nocte make an adventure map since minetest oeant have any good ones.
11:19 Nocte           That would take toooooo much time.
11:19 VanessaE        DDoS = Distributed Denial of Service attack
11:20 VanessaE        meaning a shitload of computers are attempting to connect to github with the sole purpose of making the site unavailable to legit users
11:37 * arsdragonfly  is setting up debian on his quadcore Samsung Galaxy S3
11:42 Nocte           Hm.
11:47 Nocte           Ouch, I have like 11,3 hours of Metal songs in my laptop. Every one of them is legally bought and ripped from a CD. o.o
11:53 VanessaE        all my music these days comes from youtube :P
11:53 arsdragonfly    is it legal to rip off music from youtube there?
11:54 VanessaE        nope
11:54 VanessaE        but I'll do it anyway, fuck them
11:54 Nocte           Seems like you don't want to support the artist. :p
11:55 VanessaE        actually it may be legal
11:55 VanessaE        Nocte: all the artists I could choose to support are dead.
11:55 Nocte           Oh. o.o
11:55 VanessaE        or most are anyway
11:55 VanessaE        I don't listen to modern music.
11:55 VanessaE        (with some exceptions)
11:56 Nocte           Last three albums I got: King of Asgard - Fi'mbulvintr, Testament - Souls of Black, Testament - The New Order.
11:56 arsdragonfly    https://db.tt/QPbtyAO6
11:56 Nocte           Testament is still alive and its a band from 80s.
11:56 Nocte           And King of Asgard is a new-ish band.
11:56 arsdragonfly    not bad at all :P
11:56 dafull97        hey guys
11:57 Nocte           Also: Overkill is also making new music and is from 80s.. :D
11:57 Nocte           Both are great stuff...
11:59 Nocte           Also: I like physical stuff. :D
11:59 IceCraft        hi
12:01 dafull97        us{0gb you here?
12:01 Nocte           There's still some great modern stuff going on in the Metal genre.
12:02 Nocte           Not so much from what I've heard in the Rock, Pop and other. ;)
12:03 dafull97        Nocte, i like Techno and Dubstep, some rock
12:05 Nocte           Not too much into Electronic stuff, from what I've heard Ambient is nice.
12:06 Hunterz         is possible write mod, which allow connect player to server by kicking another player ? (something like reserved slots for admins etc.)
12:06 Hunterz         if server full
12:06 Nocte           Lots of the electronic music sounds just too similar to one another.
12:37 Nocte           What mods make Minetest more closer to Minecraft? :p
12:40 Nocte           So much Iron. o.o
12:43 Nocte           Woot! 45 Iron lumps. :D
12:51 paramat         hi hmmmm, i added my paragen mod 8 biome system to the stone of 0.4.7 MGV7, gen time per chunk 8-16 sec (non-vmanip), screens: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112913#p112913
13:03 Nocte           FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu**** Almost ruined my mine with lava. :|
13:07 Nocte           Mese crystals. o.o
13:12 Nocte           Fricking lava pits and caves ruining my mine. :|
13:14 Nocte           Oh wow, I got a ton of cobblestone now. :|
13:17 Nocte           (I meant, with the features and all that stuff that is missing from Minetest.)
13:20 dafull97        Quote of the Day: "The early bird may get the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese"
13:20 dafull97        =D
13:35 Nocte           Lol, I got 100+ Steel Ignots. :D
13:37 * arsdragonfly  sold 10 stacks of iron ingots for 10 stacks of wood lasy night
13:37 arsdragonfly    last*
13:49 Nocte           Heh, what server are you playing in?
13:57 arsdragonfly    Nocte : Landrush
13:58 Nocte           I can't find it on Public Server List. :P
13:59 arsdragonfly    landrush.bremaweb.com this is the website
13:59 arsdragonfly    sometimes it has more players than others' add up together
14:00 arsdragonfly    https://db.tt/Tm7Hvyfi
14:00 arsdragonfly    not bad at all :P
14:02 Nocte           Hmm.
14:02 Nocte           Can I join that server? :p
14:03 Nocte           BTW, does the server count playful pranking as 'Griefing'?
14:04 Nocte           (As in, no real harm done from it.)
14:07 Nocte           arsdragonfly, also last question: Is it Survival or more Creative?
14:16 arsdragonfly    It's survival,and if you attempt to grief you'll die /be banned
14:16 arsdragonfly    automatically :P
14:16 Nocte           Heh.
14:16 Nocte           So no shutting doors in front of other people? ;)
14:17 arsdragonfly    As long as you claim your land with land claim blocks,it's safe
14:17 Nocte           Can you claim as much land as possible with those blocks?
14:22 Nocte           sfan5, so you host the Hunger Games server?
14:22 sfan5           yes
14:23 Nocte           It would be fun to try out. :P
14:26 Nocte           We would probably need a lot of people to make it fun.
14:29 * Nocte         pokes people for interest. :
14:29 Nocte           :D*
14:32 arsdragonfly    !up 101.245.250.112
14:33 MinetestBot     101.245.250.112:30000 seems to be down
14:33 Nocte           Would any of you guys be interested?
14:33 arsdragonfly    !up 101.245.250.112:30000
14:33 MinetestBot     arsdragonfly: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:33 arsdragonfly    !up 101.245.250.112 30000
14:33 MinetestBot     101.245.250.112:30000 seems to be down
14:34 Nocte           Hehe. What are you doing?
14:34 TheLastProject  I wonder if there's any sane reason to not just accept both syntax variations
14:34 arsdragonfly    weird :(
14:35 * arsdragonfly  just got a record-setting 1156ms when he sent that command privately to MinetestBot
14:36 arsdragonfly    The delay has doubled since I changed the ISP
14:38 Hunterz         pleahe which mod can make mt map?
14:40 Krock           minetest mapper
14:40 Krock           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
14:42 VanessaE        Exio4: around?
14:44 Hunterz         thanks
14:46 Exio4           3yes?
14:46 Exio4            -3
14:46 Exio4           i'm @ droid
14:47 Exio4           so i can bbl at any time
14:48 Krock           hmm why i can't join landrush server anymore?
14:49 Nocte           Hmm... I wish there was enough people for 6 player Hunger Games. :p
14:50 fairiestoy      Krock, are you sure? Nobody else (except brandon atm) has problems
14:50 Krock           "Connecting to Server" keeps staying on the screen but the playername is shown up at landrush website o.o
14:50 Exio4           VanessaE: ?
14:50 fairiestoy      What username krock?
14:51 Krock           Nobody900824
14:51 VanessaE        Exio4: wasn't it your change to remove FPS from the title bar of the window?
14:51 fairiestoy      Strange, your are timing out all the time
14:51 Krock           lol??
14:51 Exio4           nope
14:52 VanessaE        oh.  wonder who that was then
14:53 Nocte           Hmm... sfan5, can I go around the server and explore? :p
14:53 fairiestoy      Eeh Krock, wait a sec, the server just shut down
14:53 Krock           k
14:54 Exio4           i did the change for testing it an didn't get a super fps boost
14:55 us}0gb          So if FPS isn't in the title bar, where is it now?
14:56 VanessaE        do you remember it?
14:56 VanessaE        us}0gb: it still is, I suggest it be moved to the F5 display
14:56 VanessaE        it's already present in the F6 display but is somewhat inconvenient there.
14:56 us}0gb          Okay, got it.
14:57 PilzAdam        VanessaE, the FPS boost depends on your window manage
14:57 Krock           lol fairiestoy, i can join but alot other players time out
14:57 us}0gb          Yeah, that's incontinent.
14:57 fairiestoy      Funny, now i am unable to join x)
14:57 Timoteo         same here
14:57 Krock           hey timo, i'm nobody ;)
14:57 PilzAdam        you should consider changing your window manager if it decreases your FPS like this
14:57 Krock           i left..let's see if i was the reason
14:59 Krock           "Could not open file of texture:" that's the reason why nobody can connect i think
14:59 fairiestoy      Krock: thats  normal and can be ignored
14:59 Krock           ah..just that error only happens when i can't connect
14:59 Krock           lol
14:59 xiong           Krock, there are almost an unlimited number of reasons why a server may not connect.
14:59 us}0gb          I have probably twelve missing textures in my test world and can connect anyway.
14:59 VanessaE        PilzAdam: in my case it costs a couple of fps at least.
15:00 VanessaE        not enough for me to change wm's but the window title bar is NOT the place for a fps display!
15:00 fairiestoy      xiong: We can connect, but are not getting response related to media and anything else
15:00 xiong           Yes, that's what I see. I meant in the broader sense.
15:00 VanessaE        the title of the program is "Minetest", not "Minetest 27fps"
15:00 us}0gb          Hmm. You do have a point, VanessaE.
15:01 xiong           I agree, putting extra info in the titlebar is strictly a dev option.
15:01 Timoteo         hmm I get a destination port unreachable with wireshark... maybe 2 servers running on the same port?
15:01 xiong           The title of the window should be, by default, 'Minetest', without qualification.
15:01 Timoteo         well "trying to"
15:01 sfan5           Nocte: hm?
15:02 xiong           I'd go so far as to say that anything else in the titlebar should simply be a command line option: --title="foo"
15:02 fairiestoy      Timo: Maybe the restart script messed things up
15:02 sfan5           if you want to explore the map just download the default one from the hungry_games topic and load it in SP
15:03 Timoteo         oh.. wait.. eventually it starts to send the same messages over and over again
15:03 Timoteo         lots of "Empty."
15:04 fairiestoy      Timoteo: anyway, we need more info from brandon to know whats going on. We can't do anything for now except waiting :3
15:09 xiong           Ha. This is what happens when you kick BR some Cash Money. Whatever script that invokes hasn't been used in so long, it detonates the server.
15:10 fairiestoy      What are you talking about?
15:11 Timoteo         I'd say its just provider troubles... enough packets eaten and the connection negotation keeps starting over and over again or something like that
15:12 fairiestoy      btw Timoteo, i was able to join. It took long, but its possible
15:12 Timoteo         yea.. I got like 27-40% packetloss.. will just network lag ingame, but apparently make joining really awkward :P
15:15 fairiestoy      Timoteo: Another strange thing: I was able to connect, but don't get Nisis time out or connect tries. How is that possible? Only nobodoy was shown
15:16 Krock           *connects*
15:16 * Nocte         is bored.
15:17 Timoteo         my guess is that they are not reliably send and resend in case of packetloss, or if they are you might just not have seen it *yet*... but given that people reported not seing connect messages more than once, I go with unrealiable sending of the notification
15:19 Timoteo         udp has no fallback by itself if a packet is lost... its all minetest network code trying to make sure anything gets through... usually you try to not send everything reliable and ordered or you could just use tcp anyway... so you send commands and chat reliable, and movement or direction information unreliable... you can always correct those later if they get lost... not looked into minetest network code, so that's
15:20 * Jordach       finally wins
15:20 * Jordach       and Jordach's girlfriend has had a bet on something happening
15:20 Jordach         it finally happened
15:20 Jordach         Nocte, lemme spin up the server again :D
15:20 kaeza           if you know what I mean...
15:21 kaeza           hai Jordach
15:21 Jordach         Nocte, 81.153.28.202 : 30000
15:21 PilzAdam        Timoteo, http://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol
15:21 Timoteo         oh, thanks :)
15:21 Jordach         !up 81.153.28.202
15:21 MinetestBot     81.153.28.202:30000 is up (123ms)
15:21 fairiestoy      Timoteo: Im out for now ( letting you study the network code ;) )
15:22 Jordach         btw, my server runs a lua mapgen instance :D
15:22 Krock           omg i'm the only active player in landrush
15:23 pitriss         Krock: nobody else is able to log in..:)
15:23 Krock           yolo
15:23 Krock           trolin everything
15:24 Krock           ...fail at the next owned area
15:27 Krock           TweekCoffee timed out.
15:28 Krock           pitriss  timed out.
15:28 Krock           petulka  timed out.
15:29 pitriss         Krock: yeah, i decided to not torture server with trying to connect..
15:29 Krock           catminer  timed out.
15:30 Krock           EverHill timed out.
15:31 Hunterz         is there any mod, which downloaded from server and set skins to players in the multiplayer?
15:31 PilzAdam        Krock, stop spamming the channel
15:31 Krock           i can't spam anymore
15:31 Krock           "Access violation" kick
15:35 Jordach         Nocte, 81.153.28.202 : 30000
15:35 VanessaE        Exio4: do you remember the change that had to be made to remove fps from the title bar?
15:36 Nocte           Hmm: Why does this text appear: Could not load mesh  because the file could not be opened?
15:36 Nocte           :|
15:38 * Nocte         pokes Jordach.
15:41 VanessaE        some servers use remote_media via cURL.  this has some minor bugs, and that ^^^ is one such.
15:42 Nocte           That sucks then. :(
15:42 us}0gb          !seen Niften
15:42 MinetestBot     us}0gb: niften was last seen at 2013-10-02 03:06:06 UTC on #minetest
15:43 jin_xi          VanessaE: game.cpp lines 3373 and on
15:48 VanessaE        jin_xi: ah, thanks
15:54 markveidemanis  Hi
15:54 TheSprtCz       hi
16:02 us}0gb          Hello!
16:02 Krock           hi
16:05 NekoGloop       wazzup
16:06 TheSprtCz       Is here something like On_rightclick on tool?
16:06 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, http://youtu.be/m4Z-0W8cgfE
16:07 us}0gb          TheSprtCz, I yes there is.
16:07 PilzAdam        shes back
16:07 * PilzAdam      hides
16:07 TheSprtCz       it on_rightclick or it's called different?
16:08 PilzAdam        TheSprtCz, on_place()
16:08 * NekoGloop     curls up on VanessaE's lap
16:08 TheSprtCz       ou thanks
16:08 mahomet         !seen Calinou
16:08 MinetestBot     mahomet: calinou was last seen at 2013-10-03 06:59:49 UTC on #minetest
16:09 * Calinou       sees mahomet as seer
16:09 * mahomet       sees Calinou as wolf
16:09 Calinou         cursed
16:09 mahomet         you lie, wolf, you lie
16:10 PilzAdam        Im drunk
16:10 NekoGloop       Does that mean you're less of an asshole now
16:10 us}0gb          That explains the look on your face.
16:10 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, no, it means that Im safe
16:10 PilzAdam        unless there are other drunk claims
16:11 mahomet         me
16:11 mahomet         !vote Pilz
16:11 us}0gb          Safe from what? Is someone after you? Is it VanessaE?
16:11 PilzAdam        !shoot mahomet
16:11 MinetestBot     mahomet, a wolf, dies from the silver bullet.
16:12 VanessaE        don't look at me.  I'm not after anyone except whoever is killing my PC's performance lately :P
16:12 us}0gb          Yup. THat would be PilzAdam.
16:12 * NekoGloop     is curled up in VanessaE's lap
16:15 markveidemanis  ...
16:16 markveidemanis  I just noticed my server was up
16:16 us}0gb          Gasp!
16:16 markveidemanis  Anyone know anything (announcments from oldcoder)?
16:16 VanessaE        yeah he's been bringing the Nexus worls back up slowly
16:16 markveidemanis  He said he had the mods i gave him but its the same as before
16:17 VanessaE        mostly mod and minetest core updates slowing things down
16:17 markveidemanis  ok
16:17 markveidemanis  But i didnt want my mods updated...
16:17 markveidemanis  What i wanted from the very start was a stable world with no world-gen mods
16:18 markveidemanis  How many cores would you recommend for a minetest server?
16:18 xiong           Timoteo, any luck getting back into BR-world?
16:19 fairiestoy      was just about to ask the same :3
16:19 * us}0gb        would recommend as many as would fit in the machine
16:19 PilzAdam        VanessaE, unstable connection or reboots?
16:19 markveidemanis    2.
16:19 us}0gb          Just make sure they're CPU cores and not apple cores. I tried the apple core thing, and ... let's just say it was a mess to clean out.
16:19 markveidemanis  its 3ghz so good enough
16:19 xiong           Is it the processor speed, memory, or just a tight connection to the backbone?
16:20 Timoteo         xiong, fairiestoy: still got packetloss
16:20 VanessaE        reboot for system updates.
16:20 fairiestoy      Hmm annoying ...
16:20 VanessaE        the other was just some testing.
16:20 VanessaE        whole bunch of X-related updates, new kernel, some other stuff.
16:20 Timoteo         xiong: it's the service provider there most likely.. can be anything from them having a customer getting ddosed to someone cutting the wrong cable
16:21 PilzAdam        VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113045#p113045
16:21 fairiestoy      Btw timo, that valgrind tools is quite handy, if you don't forget to force stdout into a file ;P
16:21 Timoteo         :)
16:21 Timoteo         well as said.. ignore the graphic driver related warnings..
16:21 xiong           Sorry, Tim, for the right-angle turn in topic. I was asking what goes into a "good" server, for some value of "good". Another was asking "how many cores?"
16:22 * Timoteo       greps some food
16:22 Timoteo         ah sorry, missunderstood you then
16:22 markveidemanis  5.81.142.201:30000
16:22 markveidemanis  Testing
16:22 VanessaE        PilzAdam: moved to a more appropriate thread and section.
16:22 VanessaE        someone else can answer it.
16:22 PilzAdam        ShadowNinja, you might want to add the IRC channelname to this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113048#p113048
16:22 xiong           I'm trying to put together a new server with other people... and I'd like it to be better than average. I'd like to know what can be done to improve performance.
16:23 Nocte           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gvb2z1gCg <- also this for giggles.
16:24 xiong           Timoteo, are you pinging 'landrush.bremaweb.com'? I'm getting terrible ping there, 30% lost.
16:24 fairiestoy      Timo: Most messages were about the sqlite3 files.
16:27 mahomet         Local Mum Discovers One Weird IP Trick For Faster Internet. The ISPs Hate Her!
16:27 rubenwardy      Hi all
16:28 Nocte           JORDACH!!!
16:28 * Nocte         pokes.
16:29 mahomet         it's not polite to poke people without their express consent Nocte
16:29 Nocte           Lol.
16:30 ShadowNinja     PilzAdam: Done.
16:30 rubenwardy      Jordach: can I poke you
16:30 rubenwardy      or highlighet :P
16:32 * Nocte         highlight spams rubenwardy.
16:35 * us}0gb        wonders how rubenwardy expects people to get consent for highlighting people without highlighting them in the process
16:35 rubenwardy      that is the joke
16:35 rubenwardy      :PPPPPPP
16:35 us}0gb          It's like the "May I ask a question?" "You just did." thing.
16:36 Nocte           Heh.
16:37 Nocte           Best trick question? "Name a good popular Pop singer that doesn't suck." ;)
16:37 Nocte           Damnit, forgot to put 'new' in there.
16:38 us}0gb          Oh, I found a bug in the documentation or a bug in Minetest. I don't know which, but the two don't match. The documentation says you can leave off the image extension when referencing an image, but if you do that, Minetest complains about a missing image and cannot send it to the client.
16:38 us}0gb          *image file extension
16:39 us}0gb          "Suck" is a matter of opinion.
16:41 Nocte           us}0gb, has there been any good pop musician (new and active) that are good in your opinion? :p
16:42 us}0gb          Nocte, you're asking someone who doen't like most music.
16:42 Nocte           Wait, there are people who don't like music? O.O
16:43 us}0gb          Yes, there are.
16:43 Nocte           News to me.
16:43 Nocte           Well, you learn new things every day then.
16:43 Timoteo         xiong: yes pinging that ip, chances are you can get back on the server when that packetloss drops against 0 again
16:43 us}0gb          If there's a thing, chances are, there are at least some people who don't like it.
16:44 Nocte           I just wonder how some people can't like music at all. Any genre that is. :|
16:44 us}0gb          Put simply, you can't please everyone.
16:44 us}0gb          For me, I love peace and quiet. Music disrupts that.
16:44 Nocte           Ah.
16:45 us}0gb          Also, it gets stuck in my head and drowns out the thoughts I actually want to think.
16:45 Nocte           Its funny how I REALLY hate background noise (Coming from other people etc.) but love to play some music in the background.
16:45 us}0gb          To me, music IS background noise.
16:46 us}0gb          Unless you turn it up. THen it's foreground noise.
16:46 Nocte           Any other noise than music in the background really makes me annoyed.
16:47 markveidemanis  Does anyone here have garry's mod?
16:47 us}0gb          I don't mind white noise, but I don't much care for other noise.
16:47 Nocte           Somehow music kind of makes it easier to focus.
16:47 us}0gb          Garry's Mod is proprietary, so I don't have it.
16:48 us}0gb          Music steals my attention and focus.
16:48 Nocte           Heh.
16:48 us}0gb          I start focusing on the music when I want to focus on other things.
16:51 mahomet         no markveidemanis
16:57 TheLastProject  us}0gb: Interesting to find my polar opposite
16:57 TheLastProject  I can't concentrate properly without music
16:58 iqualfragile    depends on the music
17:06 Exio4           VanessaE: it wss commenting the update title part, grep -r for that
17:06 Exio4           :P
17:07 VanessaE        Exio4: jin_xi already helped :)
17:07 Exio4           ah
17:07 pitriss         please can anybody tell me how to correctly place windmill from technic game?
17:07 * Exio4         is at city
17:08 Exio4           i love how funny coding is
17:10 Exio4           time: 60% thinking how-to/algorithm 35% looking at docs 5% coding
17:17 VanessaE        pitriss: place a windmill object and 20 windmill frames below it in a column
17:17 VanessaE        then run MV cabling to the back.
17:17 pitriss         VanessaE: ok.. thanks:)
17:18 VanessaE        sure
17:28 jojoa1997       hi
17:28 us}0gb          Hello!
17:28 Dan_D           Hi
17:29 jojoa1997       hi
17:29 Dan_D           'parently I can only use OpenGL in Linux for Minetest
17:29 Dan_D           Which is a bummer
17:29 jojoa1997       us}0gb: why the name change
17:30 jojoa1997       you need to choose a single name man
17:30 us}0gb          Because I'm crazy and change my name almost daily. I'm hoping to build a script that will change my name for me.
17:30 Dan_D           Like I decided on Dan_D
17:30 us}0gb          I chose six names.
17:31 jojoa1997       Exio4: i love how funny coding is time: 60% thinking how-to/algorithm 35% looking at docs 5% coding
17:31 Dan_D           And 224% debugging :P
17:31 jojoa1997       Exio you forgot % bug fixing
17:31 jojoa1997       110
17:32 Dan_D           Bye
17:32 jojoa1997       ok?
17:33 * jojoa1997     is off to work on his website
17:33 Dan_D           Any linux user there?
17:33 jojoa1997       me
17:33 us}0gb          I use GNU/Linux-libre.
17:33 jojoa1997       and mainly everyone else
17:33 Dan_D           How do I update Blender? It is out of date.
17:35 jojoa1997       ok so it is my second day using linux(total~3-5 hours) but couldnt you just go to http://www.blender.org/ and download the app
17:35 us}0gb          Sorry, I have no knowledge of blender. If it's the version from the repository, the software updater should work. If not, uninstall it and download and install the new version.
17:35 Dan_D           I did:
17:35 jojoa1997       more exact http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/
17:35 Dan_D           sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install blender
17:35 jojoa1997       i have alot to learn about blender
17:36 jojoa1997       i mean linux
17:36 us}0gb          Then you have the most up to date version for your distribution.
17:36 Dan_D           Really? Ok...
17:36 Dan_D           It seems to be missing alot of functions then.
17:37 us}0gb          Either download from the URI jojoa1997 posted and use that or stick with the out of date version your distribution has. It's up to you.
17:37 jojoa1997       URL
17:37 us}0gb          The distributions don't always update the repositories.
17:37 us}0gb          jojoa1997, URL is an out-of-date term. The modern term is URI.
17:37 jojoa1997       really?
17:37 us}0gb          Yes.
17:37 jojoa1997       what does that mean
17:38 Dan_D           How do I uninstall the old Blender?
17:38 us}0gb          Uniform Resource Identifier, I think, jojoa1997.
17:38 us}0gb          sudo apt-get remove blender
17:38 Dan_D           Ok
17:39 jojoa1997       lol windows seems much easier atm with installing and uninstalling programs
17:39 Exio4           jojoa1997: the debugging time is 98.75, didn't want to use supa small time
17:39 Exio4           jojoa1997: nah
17:39 jojoa1997       Exio4 yah
17:39 us}0gb          He's using the command line. If you use the graphical way, GNU/Linux is easier.
17:40 jojoa1997       well i havent been online yet so i cant try
17:40 us}0gb          jojoa1997, which distribution?
17:40 Exio4           if you use common sense and logic
17:40 Exio4           linux is easy
17:40 jojoa1997       ubuntu 12.04.3 or something. also had lts
17:40 Exio4           doesn't matter the distro ;)
17:41 jojoa1997       well i spin circles(good ones) in windows
17:41 markveidemanis  I need screenshots of minetest worlds, without the gui showing
17:41 Dan_D           I downloaded the tar.bz2, what do I do with it?
17:41 us}0gb          It matters when I'm trying to explain where the software manager is.
17:41 jojoa1997       f1
17:41 jojoa1997       Dan_D unzip it and place the folder somewhere i think
17:42 Dan_D           Ok
17:42 us}0gb          jojoa1997, click the gift bag-looking icon to open the graphical software manager. You don't even need to find most software on the web any more, you can browse through it there.
17:42 Dan_D           But it is mostly out of date in there...
17:42 jojoa1997       but you need internet connection right?
17:42 Dan_D           Like the Minetestis 0.3.1
17:42 us}0gb          You do, yes, so you'll need to wait until you have one.
17:43 Dan_D           Yes you need internet
17:43 jojoa1997       do i need to install or download anything extra except minetest when making a build
17:43 jojoa1997       and do i need internet with that?
17:43 us}0gb          Dan_D, games like Minetest matter if they are out of date, but other software, not as much. For example, GIMP is pretty much an image editor in any iteration.
17:44 Dan_D           Except the most up to date version is impossible to use
17:44 Dan_D           (With GIMP)
17:44 dafull97        hey all!
17:44 jojoa1997       gtg soon
17:44 us}0gb          jojoa1997, if you have the software you need (you don't by default, so you'll need a connection the first time) and you have the source code, you don't need a connection to compile.
17:44 us}0gb          Hello!
17:44 jojoa1997       cya
17:45 us}0gb          Bye!
17:45 Dan_D           Bye
17:45 Dan_D           Woops, too late
17:45 us}0gb          Have you ever wanted to build a Ouija boards in Minetest?
17:45 Dan_D           Nope
17:45 us}0gb          Me neither. BUt I just finished the nodes needed to build one anyway. Stone letters.
17:46 dafull97        us}0gb, hello
17:47 us}0gb          Hello!
17:47 dafull97        i learned all lua, =D
17:47 dafull97        hahahaha, jkjkjk
17:47 us}0gb          Great! SO you understand the parens and curly brackets then?
17:47 dafull97        not any
17:48 dafull97        haha, no
17:48 us}0gb          Oh, never mind then.
17:48 dafull97        LOL, i understand on how to do functions
17:48 dafull97        same like C++ right?
17:48 us}0gb          I don't know C++ yet.
17:49 Dan_D           Jordach, you there?
17:49 Dan_D           Never mind
17:49 dafull97        neither do i all the way, i started a little of it
17:50 Jordach         Dan_D, hm
17:51 Dan_D           How do I openthe pane in Blender at the side, to do the texture thing?
17:51 us}0gb          Is there a way to tell Minetest to generate an all-stone flat world?
17:51 Jordach         Dan_D, see the top right of the 3D view?
17:51 dafull97        lol, why all stone?
17:52 Jordach         there should be three diagonal lines, drag then left
17:52 us}0gb          dafull97, for a screenshot of a new plugin.
17:52 dafull97        ohh..
17:52 auditor         Hai guys I am having a issue, I just compiled and installed minetest. It opens fine but in single player when i try to create new world bproviding name and selecting any of the options and clicking createit justreturns to main area, no world created
17:52 Dan_D           Ok Jordach
17:53 Dan_D           I now have 2 blender 3d object thingies open
17:53 * rubenwardy    just made his own configuration file parser in c++
17:53 Jordach         Dan_D, see the little cube in the second window
17:53 Dan_D           Yep
17:53 Jordach         you click that and a drop down appears
17:53 Dan_D           Ok
17:54 Dan_D           Which option?
17:54 Dan_D           ie,edit mode, texture paint, etc
17:56 Dan_D           And how do I texture a cube, for a different texture on each face?
17:58 Jordach         UV/Image Editor
17:58 rubenwardy      Uv mapping is crap in blender
17:58 Jordach         (remember, adding textures needs to have a material with the same texture_
17:58 rubenwardy      overly complicated
17:58 Jordach         rubenwardy, i make mine by hand
17:58 Dan_D           Ok
17:59 Dan_D           afk
18:23 Dan_D           Jordach, how do I make the starter cube have the grass texture on top, dirt on sides and base, with side overlay for grass_side?
18:23 Dan_D           In Render mode
18:26 us}0gb          Um. I just hit F12 to take a Minetest screenshot, and the graphics started flashing. The saved screenshot is as just blue and black stripes.
18:28 Dan_D           Never mind
18:35 Nocte           Finally the Pokémon The Origin (anime based on Pokémon Red version.) is uploaded. :D
18:41 * Nocte         drools at the anime. o.o
18:52 Nocte           Screw the anime with the music almost straight out of the games. :(
18:54 Nocte           OH WOW, they even imitate the text boxes from Pokémon Red. o.o
18:57 Nocte           FFFFFFFFFFFF----
19:01 * prestotron55  loves the Pokemon text boxes
19:09 Nocte           prestotron55, they included the 'White Hand' reference from Lavender Town.
19:36 Jordach         can i place in trash: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113070#p113070
19:36 PilzAdam        yes
19:38 Jordach         it's a waste of the 270kb i used to download the post
19:38 Menche          the notice that it is in spanish is labelled "forgiveness"?
19:39 Menche          is the worst thing about the forum the colors or the papyrus title font?
19:39 Menche          *theggabook's forum
19:47 us}0gb          <Evergreen> Why do you have such terrible graphic designing skills?
19:47 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:47 * us}0gb        busts up laughing
19:48 Jordach         haha
19:48 * Jordach       throws $5 on the table that GGA is a mexican
19:49 * sfan5         steals the table
19:49 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:49 kaeza           Jordach, nope, argentinian
19:49 Jordach         :(
19:49 Nocte           Hmm.
19:49 * Jordach       throws $5 at kaeza
19:50 Nocte           Now playing Pokémon Red with Nuzlocke challenge. :D
19:51 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:51 sfan5           plol
19:51 kaeza           huh
19:51 sfan5           this is very ironic
19:52 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:52 kaeza           s/I/b/
19:53 Jordach         HAS
19:53 Jordach         -S
19:53 Nocte            18.
19:53 Nocte           Hehe.
19:53 Nocte           They are just damn addicting games. :|
19:53 Nocte           Can't help it.
19:53 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:54 Calinou         biffles?
19:54 Nocte           Hehe.
19:54 sfan5           google translate doesn't know that word
19:54 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:54 Nocte           I guess I just like more fantasy stuff since my life is just so BORING. ;)
19:55 kaeza           ...
19:55 Naked           I would have never in a million years describe pokemon as addicting
19:55 Nocte           It is, trust me.
19:55 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:56 Nocte           Also: Damn it, if you heard some of the descriptions for Pokémon... You wouldn't think they are children's games at all.
19:56 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:56 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:56 kaeza           prestotron55 is a genwunner
19:56 kaeza           :<
19:56 Nocte           f a traveler is going through a desert in the thick of night, Cacturne will follow in a ragtag group. The Pokémon are biding their time, waiting for the traveler to tire and become incapable of moving. <- WHAT THE HELL?
19:57 Nocte           Seriously?
19:57 Jordach         nigger; see, a white guy can say it <- prestotron55
19:57 Nocte           prestotron55, not after Pokémon Black & White, they actually had plots.
19:57 prestotron55    [deleted]
19:57 Nocte           And after Generation III there's a continuous plot.
19:58 Jordach         > continuous
19:58 Jordach         lol
19:58 Nocte           Heart Gold/Soul Silver has the red Gyarados thing, Diamond and Pearl mention it in the beginning in the TV.
19:58 Nocte           And other stuff like that.
19:59 Jordach         Nocte, fuck the US toon
19:59 sfan5           Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/W8Iu47e.png
20:00 Nocte           And Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually happen after FireRed/LeafGreen after 3 years.
20:00 Naked           pokemon is the only game where the developers used the same engine since the start of th series
20:00 Jordach         sfan5, wut
20:00 Nocte           And you meet 'Red' the male protagonist of Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen.
20:00 sfan5           Jordach: that sums up all my drawing skills
20:00 Nocte           And he's mentioned as the kid who beat Team Rocket three years ago.
20:00 Jordach         sfan5, lol
20:00 Nocte           No continous plot? ;)
20:01 Nocte           Actually no Nkaed.
20:01 Nocte           Naked*
20:01 Nocte           They add a lot of stuff, Pokémon I/II generations use similar engine, III/IV/V/VI use similar engines.
20:02 Nocte           III adds Personalities which affect stats and EV training thing.
20:02 Nocte           (Basically way to level up stats high.)
20:02 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:03 Jordach         fuck this; i'll fuck your whole team up with rattatas
20:03 Nocte           Yeah, that. @prestotron55
20:04 Jordach         this channel is usually offtopic
20:04 Nocte           The rule is no talk about the actual topic!
20:04 Nocte           ;)
20:04 Jordach         now you know why i don't give a fuck sometimes
20:04 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:04 Nocte           Rattata = Sucks until evolution.
20:04 Jordach         Nocte, nope
20:05 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:05 Jordach         a Lvl1 can beat a Lvl100
20:05 Nocte           Not in Red/Blue/Green/Yellow.
20:06 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:06 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:06 kaeza           lol
20:07 xiong           #poketest?
20:07 Nocte           Hehe.
20:08 xiong           We are not a clone of some other poke-like game.
20:08 Jordach         Nocte, i've tried building pokemon gold in minetest
20:08 Jordach         it takes forever
20:08 sfan5           good night everyone
20:08 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:08 Nocte           Everyone must've read heard the Pokémon Lavender Town creepypastas and theories, right?
20:08 Nocte           Jordach, yeah...
20:09 Nocte           Its insane to even try to build a Pokémon setting in something like this. :|
20:09 Jordach         Nocte, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/lavender-town-1-1-clone/
20:09 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:09 PilzAdam        Jordach, moontest is BACK https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113077#p113077 1111 one
20:09 kaeza           suddenly: freenode staff knocking on your door
20:10 Jordach         NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
20:10 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:10 PilzAdam        prestotron55, yes
20:10 Jordach         http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
20:10 kaeza           ^
20:10 Nocte           Harvest Moon Test? :|
20:11 Nocte           Or whateverthehell.
20:11 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:11 Nocte           Damn it, now I got Route 1 song stuck in my head.
20:11 Jordach         Nocte, 1:1 right
20:11 PilzAdam        prestotron55, our offtopic channel is called #minecraft </troll>
20:11 Jordach         \o/
20:11 Nocte           The first route you enter from the starting town, you know that right?
20:12 Jordach         Nocte, i could try to rebuild it
20:12 Nocte           Build Lavender Town!
20:12 Nocte           Or the Pokémon Tower.
20:12 Jordach         o.o
20:12 Nocte           It would be cool.
20:12 Nocte           All the White hand jokes I could make. Hahaha.
20:12 PilzAdam        bye
20:13 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:13 ShadowNinja     prestotron55: Also #botwar.
20:13 Nocte           Screw Rattata. :|
20:14 Nocte           I needed that Mankey.
20:14 Nocte           Or Nidoran.. :|
20:14 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:14 ShadowNinja     prestotron55: And any empty and unregistered channels.
20:14 xiong           The off-topic channel convention leads to #not-minetest
20:15 Jordach         Nocte, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/minetest-music/ <- everyone who has used ambiance has heard this legendary song
20:15 Nocte           You were late for the joke xiong.
20:16 Jordach         what's more interesting is that i made that on a computer with synths
20:16 xiong           Sorry, I have a skewed sense of humor. I was making a joke about #poketest. I wasn't joking about #not-minetest.
20:18 Nocte           Jordach. And no talent was required. ;)
20:19 * prestotron55  now made #freeop his bitch!
20:22 Nocte           Your humor isn't that bad xiong.
20:22 Nocte           You haven't heard messed up humor if you haven't watched Spoony Experiment.
20:24 Jordach         Nocte, my challenge is 1:1 recreations
20:24 Jordach         but also finding a good song sequence
20:24 Nocte           Hehe.
20:24 Jordach         the challenge is to make a song that sticks
20:24 Nocte           Hmm.
20:24 Nocte           Sariah's Song/Lost Wood theme?
20:24 Jordach         now you know why lavender town is almost perfect
20:25 Nocte           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uInmFU6JkU <-
20:25 Nocte           This fricking thing will get stuck in your head.
20:25 Nocte           For years.
20:25 Jordach         ill try tomorrow
20:25 Jordach         although ninty beat me
20:25 Jordach         (OOT3D)
20:26 kaeza           LOL http://sysdef.de/botwar_channelrules.txt
20:26 Jordach         OH FUCK
20:26 us}0gb          I still know that song. Yeah, years for sure.
20:26 dafull97        Hey guys
20:26 us}0gb          Hello!
20:27 us}0gb          !seen Niften
20:27 MinetestBot     us}0gb: niften was last seen at 2013-10-02 03:06:06 UTC on #minetest
20:28 Nocte           us}0gb, why are you stalking Niften?
20:29 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:29 us}0gb          Niften and I are working on a project and I need to deliver bad news. Niften is really pushing that we support v7, but it seems that isn't possible.
20:30 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:31 us}0gb          I'm not depending on him. I try to depend on as few people as I can.
20:31 us}0gb          If he doesn't want to add to the project, I still have the code I write to use in my other project.
20:32 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:33 Nocte           Ah.
20:33 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:33 us}0gb          My work is pretty obvious. My plugins append "_0gb_us" to their names to create a sort of pseudo-namespace to avoid name clashes. GitHub also has the "blame" feature to show who added what.
20:33 Calinou         fun fact: I barely know how to code, yet I made one of the most used mods. :D
20:34 Calinou         I can read it and add to it ok, but I suck at _writing_ code
20:34 us}0gb          Calinou, you are the maker of moreblocks, right?
20:34 * us}0gb        has been gone a while and forgets
20:34 * prestotron55  mostly uses Calinou's mods :) Anybody seen my small little mod yet?
20:34 Calinou         yes
20:35 us}0gb          I haven't been watching the forum so I haven't seen it.
20:35 Calinou         moreblocks/moreores/maptools
20:35 Calinou         us}0gb: it's ok :P
20:35 us}0gb          Moreores too? THat one's fun as well. I don't know anything about maptools though.
20:35 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:36 Calinou         maptools is good for making adventure maps or stuff like that
20:36 * prestotron55  loves Calinou's mods <3
20:36 Calinou         :>
20:37 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:37 xiong           Okay, well one thing about which I'm certainly not joking is the idea of a rock-solid server -- solid in all directions. I spend way, way too much time playing Minetest and if I'm going to waste my life, at least I want to enjoy doing so and *feel* productive.
20:37 xiong           I have some thoughts about how to make this work and I'd like to talk to others who also have thoughts... on #athens.
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20:38 MinetestBot     prestotron55: [mod] Medeival Tools (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
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20:38 MinetestBot     prestotron55!
20:38 Calinou         gtg night
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20:41 Nocte           Ponies. WHYYY!? :(
20:41 prestotron55    [deleted]
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20:41 Calinou         add Rarity then :>
20:42 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:42 Nocte           Ugh... :|
20:42 Nocte           Rather add some dragons, ogres and such.
20:42 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:42 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:42 Nocte           What about being able to encounter a 'Beholder' in a very deep cave? ;)
20:43 Nocte           If anyone knows what I'm talking about: Have your NERDBADGE.
20:43 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:43 * prestotron55  puts NERDBADGE on
20:44 Nocte           https://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/excerpt_beholder2.jpg <- THIS FRICKING THING. Oh yeah, you turned into stone.
20:44 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:44 MinetestBot     prestotron55: Can't connect to https://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/excerpt_beholder2.jpg
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20:45 Nocte           Lol, this one guy who's doing Pokémon Red Nuzlocke has the best Pidgey ever.
20:45 Nocte           Too many criticals.
20:46 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:47 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:47 Nocte           I hope you won't add the 'ponies' as something you have to add in order to get the other stuff.
20:47 Nocte           :|
20:47 proller         prestotron55, try release antinoob mod first
20:48 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:48 * prestotron55  is noob17 according to proller, and it is the most admired name ever!
20:50 Nocte           Fricking Kakuna!
20:50 * prestotron55  is leaving for a bit to watch Miley Cyrus: The Movement to figure out what the hell she is doing.
20:50 Nocte           WHY WON'T U GET CAUGHT? >:(
20:50 Nocte           There you go, right after I whined. :D
20:50 ShadowNinja     minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) if player:get_player_name():find("n[oO0][oO0]b") then minetest.ban_player(player:get_player_name()) end end)
20:50 Nocte           prestotron55, stop listening to crap like that!
20:50 ShadowNinja     And somethingsimilar for chat.
20:50 Nocte           :(
20:51 prestotron55    [deleted]
20:52 Nocte           Lol.
20:53 Nocte           'expressing herself' = 'Trying to act tough and adult'. ;)
20:54 Nocte           If you want music where people are expressing themselves: Try some Metal.
20:54 Nocte           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXPmz9b4lM <- here some newbie Metal for you.
21:39 rustyPipe       hey, does anyone else here use infinality on linux?
21:40 kaeza           ?
21:40 rustyPipe       it's a program that makes fonts render better
21:41 kaeza           and that has to do with Minetest because...
21:41 rustyPipe       it doesn't
21:41 rustyPipe       i was asking because my display my install screwed up
21:41 Menche          i use it on one of my computers
21:42 Menche          would it be used in minetest if freetype is enabled?
21:42 rustyPipe       i don't know
21:43 Menche          and what screwed up?
21:43 rustyPipe       when i rebooted after installing it, nothing popped up except for the terminal
21:43 rustyPipe       can't use the DE or WM
21:44 rustyPipe       i was wondering if it has anything to do with display variables
21:45 Nocte           Somebody should make a Horror Mob mod.
21:45 Nocte           Typical horror movie monsters. :P
21:51 chlue           Hm how can I get the actual name of a block when I have the u16 Id of a block (In the server code)?
21:53 cy1             oh man
21:53 cy1             I just found a really expensive way to destroy a lot of stuff
21:54 cy1             so you have a constructor that constructs a constructor
21:54 cy1             fill the second one
21:54 cy1             then de-struct it
21:54 cy1             oops!
21:55 Nocte           Hehe.
21:56 Nocte           I think somebody already modded TNTs.
21:57 chlue           cy1: you could make a fortune with it by providing a clean way for leav disposal
21:57 cy1             chlue burn it in a furnace :p
22:03 * Nocte         sets up TNT traps EVERYWHERE.
22:11 cy1             Why can't a MV battery box charge from LV current, when a tool workshop can?
22:19 chlue           Because there are three powergrids lv, mv and hv. Connect your laptop directly to an overhead powerline and the outcome will not be that nice, too.
22:51 dafull97        us}0gb here?
22:51 dafull97        !seen us}0gb
22:51 MinetestBot     dafull97: us}0gb was last seen at 2013-10-03 20:35:30 UTC on #minetest
22:57 us}0gb          dafull97, I'm here.
23:00 dafull97        ok cool =D
23:02 Peacock         procrastination: putting off getting cat food until someone burns the place down, a long walk just turned into a much longer walk to the next town over lol
23:07 Peacock         lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-XOsurYbwE
23:21 Nocte           Peacock. Haha.
23:22 Peacock         about the long walk or the bieber creature?
23:22 Nocte           Bieber thing.
23:24 Peacock         :P https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/d/df/Bieberstreaking.jpg
23:27 Nocte           Lol Peacock.
23:28 Nocte           Hmm.
23:29 Nocte           Anything other crazy stuff?
23:29 Peacock         https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7831626496/h24665B77/
23:30 Nocte           Zuul! MOTHERFUCKING ZUUL!
23:31 Nocte           Heh.
23:31 Nocte           Nostalgia Critic reference if you didn't get it.
23:31 VanessaE        ha!
23:31 Peacock         https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7569580544/hFD582EE7/
23:32 Nocte           Damn..
23:32 Nocte           That's some crazy stuff there. Is she a relative to that freak show? ;)
23:33 Peacock         i have no idea what's up with celebreties these days lol i have a feeling in ten or fifteen years they'll be making very expensive soap out of them, since they can't sign for shit
23:34 Nocte           Sing*?
23:34 Peacock         didn't see that lol
23:34 Peacock         though i wouldn't be surprised if some of them were illiterate too
23:35 Nocte           Yeah, the 'fashion' desgins are really, really stupid. :p
23:35 Nocte           Designs*
23:35 Nocte           DAMN IT. /Hates typos.
23:35 Peacock         that thing about lady gaga wearing a meat costume, for the longest time i thought that was an internet rumour lol
23:36 Nocte           Ugh, don't mention that.
23:36 Nocte           Its the most stupid thing I've heard/seen for a while.
23:37 Peacock         its surely no coincidence television is dieing and people are streaming more old shit these days lol
23:37 Peacock         *dying wtv lol
23:38 Nocte           Hehe.
23:38 Nocte           Yeah, some older stuff really is good.
23:39 Peacock         except for this one Italian film from the 70's that left me scratching my head lol
23:39 * Nocte         wants to watch some classic horror movies from 70s-90s. :|
23:40 Nocte           Problem is: I don't know where to start with.
23:40 Peacock         imdb, metacritic
23:40 Peacock         whatever has the trailer handy and a ratings system
23:40 Nocte           I'm looking for specific stuff.
23:41 Nocte           Like, not too much gore/nudity.
23:41 Nocte           Some weird paranormal shit going on etc.
23:41 Nocte           Also: http://blog.flametreepublishing.com/Portals/293166/images/dracula%20movie%20poster%201931.jpg <- much better movie poster than what the generic ones today are.
23:41 Peacock         there's always cspan :P
23:42 Nocte           cspan?
23:43 Peacock         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-SPAN :P
23:43 VanessaE        you want scary, you watch the us government :P
23:43 Peacock         isn't that cspan? :P
23:43 Nocte           Hehe, yeah.
23:43 VanessaE        yup
23:44 Peacock         media's starting to talk about the possibility of default
23:44 VanessaE        so I've heard :-/
23:44 Nocte           Of default what?
23:45 VanessaE        on the us national debt
23:45 Nocte           Meaning?
23:45 Peacock         seems ridiculous when the fed can print toilet paper money at will
23:46 VanessaE        I don't think anyone knows what will happen actually
23:46 ndjdjksisksk    hi
23:46 VanessaE        but it means "you failed to pay your debt:
23:46 VanessaE        hi ndneuihruhhifhdf4789ew
23:46 Peacock         cant the pres pass a budget by executive order?
23:46 VanessaE        (pick a real nick, jeez)
23:46 ndjdjksisksk    vanessa cam me stormchaser2000
23:46 VanessaE        Peacock: no.
23:46 ndjdjksisksk    call*
23:46 ndjdjksisksk    or ndj
23:46 VanessaE        Peacock: us house of reps has that job.
23:47 * Nocte         bangs head against a wall in boredom.
23:48 Peacock         should be interesting to see, it's not like Iceland and Argentina got to walk away from their debts even after default
23:48 VanessaE        heh
23:48 ndjdjksisksk    n on e knows how ot pronouce my name
23:48 Peacock         if i remember correctly, the UK used anti-terror laws to freeze Icelandic assets
23:48 VanessaE        well the us govt seems to think things don't work the same for them as for the rest of the world
23:49 Peacock         so long as the US$ is the reserve currency, yeah that's sortof true
23:49 VanessaE        the way the world's going, soon it'll be the Yuan. :P
23:49 Peacock         problem is devaluing the US dollar is like taxing the whole world (their holdings of US$ loses value)
23:50 Peacock         well keyne's had it right on that score
23:50 Nocte           ndjdjksisksk, hehe.
23:50 Peacock         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancor
23:50 ndjdjksisksk    oh man why talk about the political crud
23:50 Nocte           Peacock, yeah... They don't seem to think stuff through do they?
23:50 Nocte           I guess you can blame the Democrats. Huehuehuehue.
23:50 ndjdjksisksk    .....................................
23:51 ndjdjksisksk    FACEPAlM
23:51 Peacock         ya'll mean the tea party
23:51 VanessaE        blame house repubs for refusing to pass a plain budget
23:51 Nocte           What would the budget cause? :p
23:51 VanessaE        they're trying to shoehorn anti-ACA legislation into the routine budget
23:51 * ndjdjksisksk  is going tto yell at people for not talking aobut minetest in the minetest irc chanel (jk)
23:51 Peacock         dems won the election fair and square, passed a law fair and square, and the gop is trying it's damndest to defund it
23:51 VanessaE        the senate passed a clean budget.  the house didn't.
23:52 Peacock         in the process the GOP is risking the entire recovery and the US's credit rating
23:52 VanessaE        yup basically.
23:52 VanessaE        gop is full of total idiots
23:52 Peacock         in many countries, they'd call that treason
23:53 ndjdjksisksk    ohhhh my stink=ing crud thi sgovernment eill fail and the orld will end
23:53 Nocte           Well, then again: Who were the ones for SOPA etc?
23:53 ndjdjksisksk    now put it that way
23:53 VanessaE        ndjdjksisksk: It won't be like that, but it won't be good either.
23:53 VanessaE        Nocte: mostly dems I think
23:54 Nocte           There you go, not all nice are they? ;)
23:54 ndjdjksisksk    faacepalm i did not mean it that way
23:54 VanessaE        nope
23:54 VanessaE        nearly all of them suck
23:54 Peacock         in any case, the next GOP president will have a helluva time selling a war on concepts of freedom and democracy when they make democracy look so bad/ineffectual
23:55 Nocte           Also: Go see any political video on youtube about right wing news or something: Racists comments from the left!
23:56 Peacock         what i dont get about the left is how they defend muslim countries knowing how they treat their women and other minorities
23:57 VanessaE        Peacock: neither do I, and I'm a liberal also
23:58 Nocte           Peacock and whenever you mention there are lots of Muslim terrorists they are like "There are Christian terrorists too!!" /facepalm.
23:58 * VanessaE      shrugs
23:58 Nocte           They don't commit terrorist acts in the name of their God do they? ;)
23:58 Peacock         im a libertarian/fiscal conservative, but the right tends to spend more than the left, while cutting taxes, so it actually makes more sense to vote liberal lol
23:59 Nocte           I guess I don't know where the hell my category is of political view. :|
23:59 Peacock         one thing i can't stand is the nanny state bs, but all parties are into that