Time Nick Message 00:00 PilzAdam dafull97, you told us the version of the Irrlicht build you have and the one of your kernel 00:00 dafull97 oh, haha... so how do i find out my version? 00:00 PilzAdam search for this line in the --info output: 01:56:01: INFO[main]: minetest with SER_FMT_VER_HIGHEST_READ=26, VER=0.4.7 BUILD_TYPE=Debug RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR=. 00:00 NakedFury run game and it says version inside 00:01 PilzAdam and then tell us the "VER" part 00:01 dafull97 0.4.7 00:01 PilzAdam good 00:01 dafull97 sorry was right in front of me... i missed it.. ;\ 00:01 PilzAdam you installed the mods correctly, but you need to enable them for the world now 00:02 PilzAdam to do that, go to the world directory, open world.mt and set load_mod_=true for the desired mods 00:02 PilzAdam more info: http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods 00:03 blaaaaargh A dialog (text mode) interface would be nice in this case 00:03 dafull97 k thanks 00:04 blaaaaargh as an external program I mean 00:04 PilzAdam blaaaaargh, after running the world once, all mods are written with false into that file 00:04 blaaaaargh though what I usually do is bundle a game into the world 00:05 blaaaaargh PilzAdam, ah nevermind then :P 00:05 dafull97 one more question, so whatever the mod foldername is in the mods folder? 00:06 dafull97 that waht i name it? 00:06 PilzAdam yes, the modfolder is the nam 00:06 PilzAdam *name 00:06 blaaaaargh dafull97, you must use the canonical mod name 00:06 dafull97 so what the default name is? 00:07 blaaaaargh (both for the folder and the line in the world.mt file) 00:07 dafull97 so like 0gb.us_game-master 00:07 blaaaaargh look at each mod's topic 00:07 PilzAdam thats a game and not a mod 00:07 dafull97 would be i got that from github? 00:08 PilzAdam when you download from github then it usually appends -master 00:08 dafull97 what about maptools-master? 00:08 PilzAdam e.g. you have to rename carts-master to carts 00:08 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6450 00:08 zat I have searched but have not found much good info... how is the support for database engines other than Sqlite? 00:09 dafull97 so maptools-master to maptools? 00:09 blaaaaargh yep 00:11 harrison The Spiny Boki Mekot Rat was found in the mountain forests of Halmahera, in the Moluccas (Maluku) archipelago. 00:15 kahrl zat, leveldb is supported 00:16 clarksallador hi 00:16 zat what is it like? (I cannot open a browser right now) 00:19 kahrl how do you mean? 00:19 zat sql, non-sql, whatever. 00:20 kahrl non-sql key value store 00:21 kahrl (that's all I know about it.) 00:21 zat it probably is like mongodb 00:21 zat sounds like 00:59 zat ERROR[main]: Migration to leveldb is not supported 00:59 zat D: did I write it wrong? 01:00 PilzAdam have you leveldb support compiled in? 01:00 zat did not set it, compiled it from the AUR 01:00 Menche you have to configure the build with "-DENABLE_LEVELDB=1" 01:00 zat do the stable binaries have it compiled? 01:00 PilzAdam no 01:00 Menche should be easy to add that to the PKGBUILD 01:00 zat Yes, I will edit it 01:02 dafull97 philz 01:02 dafull97 pilzadam 01:03 dafull97 Evergreen? 01:04 dafull97 any developers here? 01:04 PilzAdam you do the same thing again ;-) 01:05 PilzAdam just say what you want to say and dont ask for specific persons; youll get your answers way faster 01:06 PilzAdam btw, this is not meant to offend you, just some tips since you seem to be new here 01:06 dafull97 yes i am new to this game haha 01:06 Evergreen I did the same thing the first time I went on irc 01:06 Evergreen I'm not a dev fyi 01:06 dafull97 i did what you said, and still not work :( 01:07 dafull97 oh really? 01:07 dafull97 i thought you was :D 01:07 [0gb_us] It's interesting seeing messages from different channels mix ... sometimes it sounds like an actual conversation, but the people having it are unaware of each other. 01:07 dafull97 i have programmed for 3 years, just new to minecraft/minetest stuff and this game engine 01:07 PilzAdam [0gb_us], so the same as in only one channel? ;-) 01:08 [0gb_us] Evergreen, I saw that dafull97 called you a developer, and thought you had been promoted. 01:08 PilzAdam dafull97, I meant that you are new to IRC 01:08 [0gb_us] PilzAdam, yeah, sometimes. 01:08 Evergreen Who knows, I might be one day 01:08 dafull97 new to game and irc, haha 01:09 PilzAdam dafull97, so, you have placed the mods into /home//.minetest/mods/, renamed the folders according to the mod topics in the forums and have set load_mod_=true in the world.mt file in the world directory? 01:10 dafull97 this is the setup say like a mod was named mod-master, i renamed to mod 01:10 Inocudom RealBadAngel made one post in the forums today. 01:10 dafull97 then i put load_mod_mod=true in world.mt 01:10 PilzAdam yea, that is usually enough 01:11 PilzAdam does the server start correctly? 01:11 dafull97 yes everything works like it was, no mods though 01:11 dafull97 do i need do domething to conf file? 01:11 dafull97 something* 01:11 VanessaE Inocudom: and he showed up on my server early this morning also, for a few mins 01:11 PilzAdam dafull97, when you run minetest with --info, what is path_user (3rd line)? 01:12 Inocudom PilzAdam, are you aware of BlockMen's attempt to add third person view to Minetest. It is based on the attempt you made at seeing the player's model when he/she looks down. 01:12 PilzAdam Inocudom, AFAIK its still as hacky as my code 01:13 [0gb_us] Okay, git experts: If I'm in a non-master branch, and I use "git branch ", does it copy the current branch into the new one or does it copy master into the new branch? 01:13 Inocudom What if, hypothetically, BlockMen got it to work? What then? 01:14 PilzAdam [0gb_us], the current one 01:14 VanessaE [0gb_us]: if the branch doesn't exist, it makes a copy of the current branch 01:14 Inocudom RealBadAngel was on your server VanessaE? That is a pleasant surprise. 01:14 [0gb_us] Okay, thank you very much. 01:14 PilzAdam Inocudom, what does "work" mean? my version works too, but its too hacky 01:14 Inocudom I mean in the sense that it not hacky. 01:14 VanessaE Inocudom: yep, for a bit...and he was actually talking, too :) Disappeared rather abruptly when I mentioned getting him to release his shader code :) 01:15 PilzAdam Inocudom, well, of course I would consider merging it then 01:15 Inocudom Now, now, we musn't rush RealBadAngel. 01:15 dafull97 */root/.minetest 01:15 PilzAdam but making it non-hacky is quite a lot of work / designing 01:15 PilzAdam dafull97, do not run Minetest as root 01:15 Menche you're running minetest as root? 01:16 VanessaE never run internet-facing programs as root 01:16 VanessaE always run them as nobody or a specific user with limited rights 01:16 [0gb_us] I think VanessaE runs Minetest under its own account. I think that's probably the best way to do it. 01:16 PilzAdam VanessaE, like apt-get? :-p 01:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: you know perfectly well what I meant. 01:17 [0gb_us] Apt-get faces the Internet? THat's news to me. 01:17 PilzAdam thats what the :-p is for 01:17 Inocudom Remember, it is not fun to be in the middle of a work extravaganzas. 01:19 dafull97 ok, still what is my problem? i will fix root after i get this fixed 01:19 PilzAdam do you have the mods in /root/.minetest/mods/ ? 01:19 PilzAdam since thats the home folder of root you have to put it there 01:19 PilzAdam if you run it as a user then place them in the user directory, which is in /home// 01:20 PilzAdam anyway, I need to sleep now 01:20 PilzAdam bye 01:20 [0gb_us] Goodbye. 01:20 dafull97 bye 01:20 Inocudom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyeSYuS380Q&feature=player_detailpage 01:20 [0gb_us] Oops, too late. 01:21 Inocudom As the video I posted the link to says (to put it as the ancient Greeks would,) a beast cannot slay a god. 01:22 Inocudom At least, that is the message I get from it. 01:22 [0gb_us] Seeing as gods don't exist, I imagine it would be pretty hard to slay one. No beast could do that. 01:24 FreeFull Slay someone who claims to be a god 01:24 FreeFull Done 01:24 * Sokomine looks around if calinou can be found 01:24 VanessaE nope. 01:25 Inocudom I also learn from that video to avoid playing against players that are like that in Xonotic (which there are quite a few of.) 01:26 FreeFull What you really should avoid is the players that others say are gods 01:26 FreeFull Or watch and learn 01:26 Inocudom Is Calinou here? 01:26 VanessaE nope. 01:28 Inocudom I was meaning the god players as the ones to avoid. I refer to them as gods, super gods, and hyper gods. 01:28 VanessaE the ones who play MT as if it's OpenArena :P 01:30 Inocudom People that play Minetest as if its OpenArena would probably get everyone with their swords. You generally don't want that. I certainly don't. 01:47 dafull97 mods still wont work on serfver 02:05 Inocudom Everyone left all of a sudden. Why? 02:06 * Menche is still here 02:06 Menche it's always quiet at this hour 02:07 NakedFury the quiet hour 02:10 Mossmanikin Hi folks 02:11 Menche hi 02:15 Inocudom Have you checked out the lulzpack mod lately, Mossmanikin and Menche? The link to it is below: 02:15 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=54290#p54290 02:15 Mossmanikin Not lately 02:16 Inocudom LorenzoVulcan is still working on it. He has not abandoned it. 02:33 Mossmanikin Inocudom: took a quick look; lot of cool stuff in there, some very nice textures, but I personally prefer non modern stuff for playing 02:42 VanessaE Mossmanikin: minor bug report for you: 02:42 dafull97 Cab anyone help me with mods on a server? 02:42 dafull97 can* 02:43 VanessaE in short, ferns are taking over! they're everywhere! heelllllllllllpppppppp! :) 02:43 Mossmanikin :D 02:43 VanessaE dafull97: just do what pilzadam said to do 02:43 VanessaE dafull97: alternatively, you could build a "game" out of your mods collection. 02:44 VanessaE Mossmanikin: seriously though, could you move those to on-gen only? 02:44 Menche dafull97, what isn't working? what do you have? 02:44 VanessaE they're too prolific :) 02:45 VanessaE Menche: he's having trouble understanding how to properly enable them on his server 02:45 dafull97 um, i did do what he said, still not work... VannessaE if i give you my ssh user & a temp password could you make sure i have it setup right? 02:45 Mossmanikin I'll take a look at the code 02:45 VanessaE dafull97: I wouldn't know how, I don't use that method 02:45 VanessaE (else I'd help you now) 02:45 VanessaE I use the game method 02:45 Menche dafull97, did you edit the world.mt file? 02:46 Menche you have to enable the mods in that file 02:46 Mossmanikin VanessaE: is it only the Lady Ferns? 02:46 Menche (a stupid decision IMHO) 02:46 dafull97 yes, used mod_load_samplemod=true 02:46 VanessaE Mossmanikin: actually it's the horsetail ones that are the issue 02:46 VanessaE I don't see that much of the other kinds 02:46 dafull97 replaced samplemod with mods folder name in mods folder 02:47 Inocudom Shouldn't ferns only appear in warm areas like jungles? 02:47 Menche when you're in the game, does it show up when you type "/mods"? 02:47 dafull97 idk, let me check =D 02:47 Mossmanikin VanessaE: ah, ok, see what you mean now 02:47 VanessaE Mossmanikin: mainly, where there's water, there are tons and tons of horsetails 02:47 VanessaE plus they spawn on gravel, which messes up walkways and the like 02:48 VanessaE spawn-on-gravel should be limited to on-mapgen onl 02:48 VanessaE only* 02:48 Mossmanikin I'll add a setting to en-/disable it 02:49 Mossmanikin (and disabled as default setting) 02:49 dafull97 only a couple, vessel, screwdriver, stairs, fire... maybe farming? 02:50 Menche sounds like there's just the default 02:50 VanessaE that's all default stuff, yeah 02:50 VanessaE Mossmanikin: ok, that seems fair 02:50 Mossmanikin Hm, just see the setting is already there, but it's enabled by default 02:51 dafull97 here is my world.mt 02:51 Mossmanikin "Horsetails_Spawning = true" 02:51 Menche add "load_mod_" to the beginning of that setting 02:52 Menche and does that modname really contain capitals? 02:52 Menche oh wait 2 conversations at once 02:52 dafull97 here is my world.mt : http://pastebin.com/kF3UVyTs 02:52 Menche oops lol 02:53 Menche dafull97: the beginning should be "load_mod_" instead of "mod_load_" 02:54 dafull97 ahh, ok 02:54 dafull97 here is what my mods folder consist of, also my world.mt : http://pastebin.com/0jYmDW6s 02:54 dafull97 please check that make sure it is correct 02:55 Mossmanikin Inocudom: actually ferns grow almost everywhere (different species of course in different areas) 02:55 Menche you put the mods in games/minetest_game/mods/ ? 02:55 Menche they should go in just mods/ 02:56 dafull97 Menche is my stuff right? 02:56 Menche it looks like you put that in the game folder 02:56 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/0jYmDW6s <- my world.mt and my mods folder, please check make sure it is correct =D 02:56 Menche that isn't the way that mods are usually added but that actually *should* work 02:57 Menche dafull97: did you put the mods in .minetest/mods/ or .minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/ ? 02:58 dafull97 .minetest/mods 02:59 dafull97 is that correct folder? 03:00 Menche yeah 03:00 dafull97 k good 03:00 Menche why are 'default', 'vessels', 'stairs', and the other default mods listed there? 03:00 dafull97 fixing errors in world.mt 03:01 dafull97 that was in a package from 0gb.us github... haah 03:01 dafull97 so used it 03:02 Mossmanikin VanessaE: do you use ferns 0.1.2? 03:03 Menche dafull97, i'd remove the mods that are duplicates of the ones in minetest_game/mods 03:03 dafull97 can you list defaults? 03:03 dafull97 please 03:04 Menche bones bucket creative default doors dye external_legacy farming fire flowers give_initial_stuff legacy screwdriver stairs vessels wool 03:04 Menche or, "ls .minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/" 03:05 VanessaE Mossmanikin: lemme check 03:05 VanessaE Mossmanikin: yep, seems to be 03:06 dafull97 ok, and the mods stll didnt work :( 03:06 Mossmanikin VanessaE: k, then you can change the spawning in SeTTiNGS.txt (in mod folder) 03:07 Menche dafull97, pastebin'ing the last part of your debug.txt would probably be usefull 03:07 VanessaE hadn't considered changing the settings. heh 03:07 Inocudom Another thing to keep in mind is that you must extract the content's of the mods' zip files. 03:08 Inocudom Then, you must renamed the extracted main folder of a mod to the mod's true name. 03:08 VanessaE Horsetails_on_Stony = true -fl 03:08 VanessaE Horsetails_on_Stony = true --> false 03:08 VanessaE that's easy enough 03:08 Inocudom There is a program known as modster that can help out with this. 03:08 VanessaE oh, I just do it all from a script. 03:09 VanessaE trivial. 03:09 Mossmanikin or Horsetails_Spawning = false --> false 03:09 dafull97 ok, one second :) 03:09 VanessaE Mossmanikin: oh, they already spawn on mapgen? 03:10 Mossmanikin Horsetails_on_Stony and Horsetails_on_Grass is on magen 03:11 VanessaE gotchya 03:11 * VanessaE tweaks 03:11 Mossmanikin :D 03:12 Mossmanikin used the word spawning like in plants_lib there 03:12 VanessaE *nod* 03:12 VanessaE I didn't realize there was a settings file. 03:12 VanessaE blindly installed it without looking :D 03:13 Mossmanikin did the same with moretrees a while ago :D 03:13 VanessaE does the only-spawn-saplings-ongen work okay for you? 03:13 VanessaE how's the lag with that setting? 03:14 Mossmanikin Didn't try it yet, only read about it 03:15 dafull97 Menche 03:15 Menche ? 03:16 dafull97 did you say anything, mycomp lost net fir a sec 03:16 dafull97 for* 03:16 Menche not since your last message 03:17 dafull97 ok, here is debug 03:17 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/n3J0yzkF 03:18 Menche doesn't look like it can find the mods 03:18 Menche "/home/.minetest" <-- ? 03:18 dafull97 yse 03:18 dafull97 yes 03:18 Menche you have a user named ".minetest"? 03:19 Menche or that's just floating in the "/home" dir? 03:19 dafull97 um, i guess? might be floating 03:19 Menche what is the user you run it as? 03:19 dafull97 found my problem :D 03:19 VanessaE that should be /home/yourname/.minetest ... 03:19 VanessaE whatever your name is on the pc 03:20 VanessaE (for me, it's /home/minetest/.minetest because "minetest" is the username that my server runs as) 03:20 dafull97 i have no dir in the home named .minetest 03:20 dafull97 mine is in root 03:20 Menche your minetest debug.txt says the world is at "/home/.minetest/worlds/world" 03:21 dafull97 yes i need change that 03:21 dafull97 hmm... 03:21 Menche if you're running it as root (which *really* is not recommended) it should all be in /root/.minetest 03:23 dafull97 yes, i will change root when this run right... 03:23 dafull97 this is for testing 03:24 dafull97 i think it is working 03:25 dafull97 bout find out =D 03:27 dafull97 nope pastebin'in debug... wont run at all now 03:27 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/2AyvhKeN 03:28 VanessaE that means it worked :P 03:28 VanessaE now you just have to fix the mods that went wrong 03:28 VanessaE disable the "points" mod for now, work on that one later. 03:28 dafull97 yes mods work, but server wont run right 03:28 dafull97 ok 03:28 VanessaE first, get your server up and running with as many of your intended mods as you can, then start fixing and adding in the ones that don't work 03:30 Mossmanikin VanessaE: just tested the saplings a bit; less lag while exploring, no saplings on the first block, prefer whole trees ongen 03:30 Inocudom Why is internet the slowest this time of night? 03:31 dafull97 what this mean -> teleport-mod" has unsatisfied dependencies: "inventory_plus" "points_0gb_us" 03:32 VanessaE Mossmanikin: easy to change. minetestfolder/worlds/yourworld/moretrees_settings.txt 03:32 VanessaE change moretrees.spawn_saplings to false. 03:32 Mossmanikin found it :) 03:35 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Doesn't the filename imply the moretrees namespace? And wouldn't moretrees.conf be better? 03:35 dafull97 what does this mean? -> mod "teleport-mod" has unsatisfied dependencies: "inventory_plus" "points_0gb_us" 03:35 ShadowNinja dafull97: You need those mods to run the mod "teleport-mod". 03:36 dafull97 and how would i do that? im newbie... lol 03:37 VanessaE ShadowNinja: the filename does imply it, but the file is "executed", so those turn into global variables. 03:37 VanessaE I try to do that with all my mods where some variable is intentionally made global 03:37 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You depend on latest git, right? Use Settings(worldpath.."/moretrees.conf") 03:38 dafull97 so the filename that came with it need to be the same? 03:38 VanessaE nope, moretrees should work fine with 0.4.6 and up, I think 03:38 VanessaE no, check that 03:38 VanessaE 0.4.7-stable and up 03:39 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Then see the old tehnic config.lua, it was a basic lua implementation of the Settings class. 03:39 VanessaE eh, I'm happy with the way it is :) 03:39 VanessaE if it ain't broke, don't fix it :) 03:40 dafull97 would the filenames that came with it have to stay the same?? 03:41 VanessaE dafull97: never change any filenames in a mod. 03:41 VanessaE only the containing folder name, and ONLY if the author says to change it 03:41 dafull97 nice pilzadam told me to 03:41 dafull97 change them to whatever, but make sure there the same in the world.mt 03:42 dafull97 ok that explains why it wont run haha 03:42 dafull97 will fix tomarrow, thanks to all that has helped me ! 03:43 dafull97 Goodnight all! 03:44 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 03:44 Mossmanikin hi 03:45 VanessaE hey tfg 03:45 thefamilygrog66 is it possible to turn off falling damage for a specific player? I know that nodes can belong to a group that affects falling damage but I can't find anything else. 03:47 VanessaE yes it is possible to some degree 03:47 VanessaE see Jeija's jumping mod 03:47 VanessaE but it has to be on a per-node basis 03:49 Mossmanikin Does https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7224 effect fall damage? 03:49 thefamilygrog66 yeah, that's what I mean by "belong to a group" 03:49 VanessaE oh right, didn't see that part 03:50 VanessaE note to self: read the whole sentence before replying :P 03:50 thefamilygrog66 haha 03:50 Mossmanikin :D 03:51 thefamilygrog66 Mossmanikin, I checked that out as well, but it doesn't deal with falling damage at all, just changes gravity strengths per planet 03:52 Mossmanikin So you jump high and then you die? :D 03:52 thefamilygrog66 I wonder if it would be possible to do what unchecking turn on damage does for a specific player 03:52 thefamilygrog66 *enable damage 03:53 thefamilygrog66 you can jump higher in that mod, but you fall more slowly as well 03:53 thefamilygrog66 i.e. jump variable isnt changed, just gravity 03:53 Mossmanikin Ah, ok 03:55 Mossmanikin You're only talking about fall damage, right? Not lava, mobs... 03:56 thefamilygrog66 I'd take either at this point, since it's just a temporary change 03:56 thefamilygrog66 30 seconds or so 04:09 Mossmanikin maybe something with: minetest.setting_set("enable_damage", 0) ? 05:42 Mossmanikin bye, later 06:46 ungali Hey: anyone else been on 0gb.us's server recently? It's going incredibly slow 07:11 Calinou hi 07:15 VanessaE hi 08:12 rubenwardy Hi All! 08:25 VanessaE hey ruben 08:42 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Comic Book Day! :-D 08:43 VanessaE hi 08:43 JamesTait Hey VanessaE! :) 08:43 JamesTait How's life? 08:43 VanessaE eh, it's life. 09:06 UniversalNoob Hi @ll 09:08 UniversalNoob Is there a documentation for PilAdam's Farming Plus? I'm new to Farming completely and I don't know what to do 09:08 UniversalNoob *PilzAdam 09:08 VanessaE farming plus isn't useful right now 09:08 VanessaE at least not pilzadam's original 09:09 UniversalNoob Any alternative, you could suggest? 09:09 VanessaE zeg9's fork adds on-generate plants that you can harvest to get seeds from, then you just hoe some dirt (with a hoe, natch), put some water in a hole next to it, and put some seeds onto the hoed dirt. 09:10 VanessaE after a while the seeds will start to grow 09:10 VanessaE repeat according to the size of your desired farm 09:10 VanessaE most plants will yield a fruit or vegetable you can directly eat, some stuff such as pumpkins can be baked into pumpkin "cake" 09:11 VanessaE wheat (default farming) can be cooked into bread 09:11 VanessaE cotton (default) can be used to make wool blocks 09:11 UniversalNoob why wouldn't Farming Plus be useful now? 09:12 VanessaE because pilzadam's copy has no way to get seeds. 09:12 VanessaE no seeds = nothing to plant. 09:12 UniversalNoob Fair enough :) 09:12 VanessaE :) 09:12 VanessaE https://github.com/Zeg9/farming_plus 09:12 VanessaE clone that and have fun :) 09:12 UniversalNoob Thanks a bunch - and thank you as well for your mods :D 09:13 VanessaE use the mapgen branch specifically. 09:13 VanessaE sure thing. enjoy :) 09:13 UniversalNoob Bye for now :) 09:13 VanessaE bye 09:23 VanessaE hi 11:34 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:38 VanessaE hi 11:45 rubenwardy Hi all! 12:15 dafull97 VanessaE are you present? 12:15 VanessaE yes 12:15 dafull97 can yoou help me real quick? 12:15 dafull97 you* 12:15 VanessaE possibly, what's up? 12:16 dafull97 ok, last night you said never rename the mod folders, correct? 12:16 VanessaE no 12:16 dafull97 so i deleted all and redownloaded them, note - they came from github 12:17 VanessaE you don't rename them *unless* the author of the mod instructed you to 12:18 VanessaE some mods from github end up as "minetest-mod-xxxxx", when the correct name is just xxxxx. in this cases, they have to be renamed, and their authors will probably have said so in the forum posts for those mods 12:18 dafull97 ok, well i got maptools-master.zip (havn't unzipped yet) and 0gb.us_game-master.zip 12:18 VanessaE others are treated like modpacks (even when there's only one mod inside), in which case renaming isn't needed. 12:18 dafull97 do i renmane them? 12:19 dafull97 rename* 12:19 VanessaE maptools, yes. the game one I don't know about, but being marked as a game, most likely it'll need to be 0gb.us_game 12:19 VanessaE (think minetest_game) 12:19 VanessaE (though that isn't strictly necessary) 12:20 VanessaE clear as mud? :D 12:20 dafull97 here is a the link for it, http://evilclown.herobo.com/0gb.us_game-master.zip that is one my website, so i could wget it onto my VPS 12:20 * VanessaE looks 12:21 rubenwardy virus! 12:21 dafull97 no virus, if you would like the github link i will gladly get it for you 12:21 VanessaE when you unzip that one, it'll create a new folder, 0gb.us_game-master . Inside that, will be a single lone folder, 0gb.us_game . 12:21 VanessaE you'll just want to copy that lone folder to your minetest games folder. 12:22 dafull97 so after unzip just copy the whole thing onto my mods? 12:22 VanessaE no 12:22 VanessaE copy the inner "0gb.us_game" folder (not the outer one that says "-master") to your minetest GAMES folder. 12:23 VanessaE games are not mods (though they are made up of collections of them usually), so they go in a different place than a mod does. 12:23 PilzAdam hint: the games folder is .minetest/games/ 12:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: he uses Windows 8. 12:23 VanessaE no wait, 12:23 PilzAdam ehm, he has a vps 12:23 VanessaE he's on linux, that's right 12:23 VanessaE and he runs his server as root :P 12:23 dafull97 yes im on ubuntu 12.04 vps, my server that is 12:23 PilzAdam I would sue the guy that offers windows 8 VPSs 12:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: you'd be suing nearly every data center out there I think :) 12:24 dafull97 i am running it as root temp... 12:24 VanessaE I'm pretty sure most of them have win 8 VPS's available. 12:24 VanessaE dafull97: I'm just ribbing you :) 12:24 rubenwardy ? 12:24 dafull97 VanessaE, oh haha 12:25 dafull97 i have no games folder? 12:25 VanessaE dafull97: anyways, put 0gb.us_game into /root/.minetest/games 12:25 VanessaE if it doesn't exist, create it. 12:25 dafull97 and i thought that this was a mods pack thing?\ 12:25 dafull97 ok, will create 12:25 VanessaE once you've got it working, for G*d sake get it all out of root and into a normal user account before your box is compromized 12:25 VanessaE compromised* 12:26 dafull97 i will, i need it working first :P 12:27 dafull97 so 0gb.us_game is a game? haha 12:27 VanessaE mmhmm 12:27 dafull97 do i need to add that as like load_game_ 12:27 VanessaE it is a collection of Lua mods, textures, models, etc. that are treated as a separate, self-contained game, just as minetest_game is. 12:27 dafull97 in the world.mt? 12:28 VanessaE no, you just install it to /root/.minetest/games and select it as the game you want your server to run, via the --gameid commandline parameter when you start the server. 12:29 VanessaE for example, you might run: minetestserver --worldname My_kickass_world --config ~/.minetest/minetest.conf-server --gameid 0gb.us_game --port 30000 12:29 dafull97 ok, cool 12:29 VanessaE or something substantially similar to that. 12:29 dafull97 ok, thanks you have been so helpful =D so has Pilzadam 12:29 VanessaE I try :) 12:30 dafull97 PilzAdam* 12:56 dafull97 How would i know that the game mode works? 12:57 VanessaE just do /mods 12:57 VanessaE look for some of the mods that are contained in the game 12:58 VanessaE (games, as I said, are composed mostly of individual mods) 12:59 VanessaE youcan also examine the log output or just the output when you started it on the terminal 12:59 VanessaE it'll tell you 12:59 VanessaE whichever method is easiest for you 12:59 dafull97 it says maptools loaded 12:59 VanessaE s/it/your server/ 12:59 VanessaE ok, that's good 13:00 VanessaE now scoll further up. it'll say something about the game id 13:00 dafull97 ERROR[main]: WARNING: Using commanded gameid [0gb.us_game] instead of world gameid [minetest] 13:00 VanessaE it's helpful to search the .... that's it. 13:00 dafull97 ok... cool 13:00 VanessaE so it's using the right game. 13:00 dafull97 when i go in game 13:01 dafull97 it doesnt show the right one, can i use giveme command and test landclaim? 13:01 VanessaE sure 13:01 VanessaE but if it says "using commanded gameid" like that, then it's already using the right game 13:02 VanessaE provided you're looking at your *server* logs 13:02 VanessaE and not your *client* log 13:03 dafull97 i used /giveme land_claim and it didnt work? 13:04 VanessaE did it give an error? 13:04 VanessaE e.g. "unknown item" in the chat ares? 13:04 VanessaE area* 13:04 dafull97 yes 13:04 VanessaE well, firstly... 13:04 VanessaE land_claim is just the mod name, maybe 13:04 VanessaE /giveme is used to get specific items 13:04 VanessaE for example, /giveme default:coal_lump 13:05 VanessaE or /giveme moreblocks:super_glow_glass 13:05 dafull97 yes, i was wanting the land claim to test if it works right 13:05 VanessaE is it a block of some kind? 13:05 dafull97 yes, it is a mods thing 13:05 dafull97 mod 13:05 * VanessaE checks 13:06 dafull97 in the 0gb.us_game 13:06 VanessaE no, it's not a block. 13:06 VanessaE it's a set of commands. 13:06 VanessaE well it's both 13:06 * VanessaE checks the mod's code 13:08 andersje VanessaE: yeah, landclaim is kinda awesome. craft a specific block, it restricts access to an area surrounding that block 13:08 VanessaE I don't see in the code where that object is even defined, let alone being used 13:08 * andersje is probably not giving new information 13:10 dafull97 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3679 13:10 dafull97 that is the forum for land_claim 13:10 dafull97 that is what i downloaded, gave me all their mods... or whatever 13:10 dafull97 and just put in the games folder 13:10 VanessaE well 13:11 VanessaE at the first post of that thread he says the land_clam mod is discontinued 13:11 VanessaE and that all efforts are focused on his game instead 13:11 VanessaE he directs people to this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3808 13:12 VanessaE it looks like he's gone to a command-only system 13:13 dafull97 how does Landrush server still have them things? 13:13 VanessaE they probably use an older version 13:14 andersje it's a pity he gave up on landclaim. 13:14 andersje I really liked that. 13:14 VanessaE it looks like when he left us last time, he wiped out his whole 0gb.us/minetest folder from his website 13:14 andersje maybe in my copious free time I should fork it. 13:14 VanessaE all downloads are dead. 13:14 VanessaE and his old domain points to zdnet now. 13:14 dafull97 so no landclaims? 13:14 VanessaE so I guess he never restored that stuff when he came back 13:14 andersje dafull97: I might have an older copy I can grab off one of my servers. 13:15 andersje hold on, I'll check 13:15 VanessaE nope, guess not. Use a different protection mod such as Areas, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110937 13:15 VanessaE or zeg9's protection mod, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4212 13:16 dafull97 ok, i will ... 13:16 dafull97 andersje: i would like that :) 13:16 VanessaE there's this one, also: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3640 13:16 * andersje looks 13:17 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4799 13:17 VanessaE here's the one used on the Landrush server 13:18 VanessaE (I think) 13:18 dafull97_ sorry stupid school net :( 13:18 dafull97_ did anyone say anything? 13:18 VanessaE dafull97_: try this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4799 13:18 VanessaE that may be the one you wanted. 13:18 * harrison deploys Cuttlefish Cloak 13:18 * harrison has blended into the background 13:19 dafull97_ yes probably =D 13:19 andersje http://www.angelar.com/~jeremy/landclaim.tar 13:19 andersje that's the one I was using, dafull97_ 13:19 VanessaE in which case, you probably don't need 0gb.us_game unless you specifically wanted to use it. 13:19 andersje that's the last release, I think, of the landclaim mod 13:20 andersje it doesn't work on 0.4.7 though 13:20 andersje I don't think. 13:20 andersje maybe. 13:20 andersje haven't tested it a lot. maybe it does. 13:20 dafull97_ i havnt seen any differance in anything with the 0gb.us_game 13:21 dafull97_ im back 13:21 VanessaE "I'm tired of people using lag to [...] steal stuff out of nodes that can't be locked like furnaces and auto crafters." 13:21 VanessaE hm, I should look into correcting that. 13:22 VanessaE (autocrafters are part of pipeworks, one of my mods) 13:22 VanessaE Hm, I kinda like the auto-ban feature. 13:24 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja .... opinions? 13:24 andersje VanessaE: I know it's not a fix, but in the real world, no one puts machine tools outside of a locked shop... 13:25 VanessaE true enough, but if you read the whole sentence (I only pasted part of it), that's actually what he said was his intent. 13:25 VanessaE to protect private areas secured with locked doors and the like 13:26 * andersje nods 13:26 andersje okay, sorry. 13:26 andersje yeah, I have problems with my youngest son griefing our worlds 13:26 VanessaE s/secured/that are otherwise secured/ 13:26 andersje he sees a locked door, so he mines his way in. 13:26 VanessaE time to kick his butt :) 13:27 andersje yeah, he loses interact privilege regularly. then can't seem to understand why no one in the family wants to build on the world _he_ has administrative control of 13:28 VanessaE ah, I sense the presence of an Angel...of the RealBad variety 13:28 VanessaE (RBA posting on the forums again, about an hour ago) 13:35 dafull97_ brb later guys, landrush mod not work... will explain more later 13:51 dafull97 ok, im back 13:53 dafull97 VanessaE: still here? 13:53 VanessaE yes 13:54 dafull97 ok, landrush mod isn't working? :( haha' 13:55 VanessaE how do you know it isn't? 13:55 VanessaE what did oyu do to test it 13:55 VanessaE you* 13:56 dafull97 i stared server after unzip, rename, and edit world.mt 13:56 dafull97 did command /showarea 13:56 VanessaE and? 13:56 dafull97 it did invalid command i belive 13:56 dafull97 beleive 13:57 VanessaE hrm 13:57 dafull97 let me test 1 more time 13:57 VanessaE did you install the one I linked to, or at least the one andersje linked to? 13:59 dafull97 the one you did 13:59 dafull97 the landrush mod 13:59 VanessaE did you confirm that it loaded? 13:59 VanessaE ( /mods ) 14:00 dafull97 yes 14:00 VanessaE and did it? :) 14:00 dafull97 it says issued command, dosnt do any thing 14:01 dafull97 all it says is issued command /showarea 14:01 VanessaE that doesn't mean much 14:01 VanessaE if it didn't say the command was unknown, then it worked 14:01 VanessaE at that point it's up to the mod to decide what to do with the command. 14:01 VanessaE idk what /showarea would do if given no parameters and no defined/claimed areas 14:02 arsdragonfly Seems that /showarea doesnt work on some GPUs 14:02 dafull97 i did /landowner and works =D says land is unowned 14:03 dafull97 when i try to build a land block thing it not work 14:03 dafull97 be back later 14:03 arsdragonfly Also the texture of /showarea is invalid,the filename contains a period or underscore 14:03 VanessaE you're using the wrong recipe, dafull97 14:03 VanessaE (probably) 14:03 arsdragonfly So a dummy texture is created each time 14:30 [0gb_us] arsdragonfly, both periods and underscores are valid in texture names. I use them myself and the textures show up just fine. 14:39 * harrison drifts towards the surface of the lagoon 14:45 sfan5 hi everyone 14:45 VanessaE hi 14:47 andersje hola 14:53 [0gb_us] Hello! 14:57 * Jordach SCREAMS FUUCKKK NOOOO 14:58 [0gb_us] Hmm? 14:58 VanessaE ? 14:58 [0gb_us] You weren't even here to read the bad news. 15:00 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/uxxIPZK.png 15:01 [0gb_us] Google UK in Chrome displaying suggested pages? I don't get it. 15:01 Jordach they changed most visited new tab into THAT 15:01 VanessaE what's wrong with it? 15:02 [0gb_us] Ah. Google wants you to search more then. 15:02 VanessaE because of the G+ stuff at the top? 15:03 Jordach i already use the omnibar, why do i need another search bar 15:03 VanessaE I can't imagine not having the Fast Dial screen on firefox.. 15:04 PilzAdam Jordach, google sucks, admit it 15:06 jojoa1997 hello 15:06 VanessaE hi 15:07 [0gb_us] Hello! 15:07 * Jordach hands blockmen $5 15:11 ShadowNinja VanessaE: No auto-ban, that is too easy to trigger. And it prevents things like stacking out of a protected trap with lag. 15:13 VanessaE I think the auto-ban is only on digging, not building 15:13 jojoa1997 what is auto-ban 15:13 VanessaE jojoa1997: a feature of the landrush mod 15:14 jojoa1997 me no likey 15:14 jojoa1997 i dont think it should be added 15:14 jojoa1997 also isnt protection stopping you from digging anyways 15:15 jojoa1997 well anyways cya guys and gals 15:15 [0gb_us] And landrush is meant for intentionally-hostile servers where you are SUPPOSED to try to wreck peoples' stuff. 15:15 * jojoa1997 trudges to 5th period 15:15 [0gb_us] Bye! 15:15 jojoa1997 bye 15:16 ShadowNinja /showarea in areas seems possible, I can individually set colision boxes and visual size. But you will have to be near the center of the area for it to work(if it is a large area) 15:18 dafull97 ok, im back 15:19 dafull97 my problem is that i cannot make a claim block or sell block, vanessaE 15:19 VanessaE dafull97: perhaps you're using the wrong recipes 15:19 VanessaE for that, you will have to look through the mod's code to see what the recipe is, unless you have a working craft guide mod 15:20 dafull97 i used the one on the mod 15:20 dafull97 will you test it? 15:20 dafull97 =D 15:20 VanessaE no 15:20 VanessaE getting too tired to look at code right now 15:23 dafull97 ahw, ... oh no i was meaning testing the recipe... but ok... nevermind... thanks for all help so far 15:26 VanessaE it's okay, it's just I'd have to try to look through the code too since I don't know that mod 15:26 * harrison engulfs a tiny fish in its tentacles 15:26 dafull97 mese means the whole block right? 15:26 * harrison drifts towards the surface of the lagoon 15:26 VanessaE default:mese, yeah 15:31 [0gb_us] Is there a bash command I can use to find which files contain a string without locating each instance of the string in each file? For example, grep is cumbersome for this, as it returns 14 results for test.cpp, when I only need one. 15:31 Jordach john_minetest, sfan5.duckdns.org/upload 15:31 sfan5 john_minetest: I do? 15:32 Jordach ninja'd 15:33 * harrison engulfs a tiny fish in its tentacles 15:33 FreeFull [0gb_us]: There is a flag to grep that does that 15:33 [0gb_us] Okay, thanks! 15:34 FreeFull [0gb_us]: -L 15:34 FreeFull Oh, wait, actually -l 15:34 FreeFull -L prints the files that don't match 15:34 [0gb_us] Awesome, that did it. Thanks! 15:34 [0gb_us] Ugh, I have my work cut out for me ... 15:34 dafull97 VanessaE, i was using wrong recipe, i was using a whole mese block instead of the crystal 15:37 [0gb_us] Okay, who knows how to make ndef available in a given context in Minetest's source? 15:37 Jordach [0gb_us], with scissors yes 15:38 [0gb_us] Yes, many, many scissors. 15:38 FreeFull dafull97: Give that mese a good whack 15:39 * Jordach has something new 15:40 PilzAdam [0gb_us], client or server context? 15:40 dafull97 yea, i already figured it out 15:40 dafull97 i needed to use crytals 15:40 [0gb_us] I believe server. I need to replace CONTENT_AIR with c_air, and c_air is defined as ndef->getId("mapgen_air"). 15:41 [0gb_us] So maybe both? I don't know. 15:41 * Jordach has always wondered what x->y does 15:41 PilzAdam I though about his mapgen_air thing; I think its better to let it be CONTENT_AIR; mods can place their own air in on_generated() if they want 15:41 PilzAdam its just too messy to have mapgen_air in the core 15:42 PilzAdam Jordach, x is a pointer to an object 15:42 PilzAdam if x was the object itself, no the pointer, then it woul be x.y 15:43 PilzAdam x->y == (*x).y 15:43 [0gb_us] Okay, if that is the case, was I right in taking mapgen_air out of those files, or was there another issue with that? 15:43 PilzAdam [0gb_us], I guess the pull request is fine then 15:43 [0gb_us] (Just so I know if I need to continue something.) 15:43 [0gb_us] Okay, cool. 15:43 * john_minetest never understood why x->y works 15:44 * harrison drifts towards the surface of the lagoon 15:44 [0gb_us] I had no idea how entangled CONTENT_AIR was with the core ... 15:44 [0gb_us] I thought it would be an easy swap. 15:45 * Jordach sounds the "oh no" alarm 15:46 [0gb_us] I have one final question for now: If I have a directory that is a Git repository, and I delete it, are the branches on the local machine deleted as well, or are they stored elsewhere on the system? 15:47 PilzAdam they are in the .git folder in that directory 15:47 PilzAdam so if you delete it, its gone 15:47 [0gb_us] Okay, awesome. Thanks! 15:48 [0gb_us] I always worried I was building up a stash of unused files when deleting those. 15:49 PilzAdam git gc --aggressive should remove the unused data after removing branches with git branch -d 15:50 PilzAdam I think git branch -d just removes the branch pointer 15:52 * Jordach mails [0gb_us] a 1TB disk 15:53 * Calinou mails [0gb_us] a 1TB SSD 15:54 * Jordach would never fill a 1TB disk 15:54 Jordach Calinou, seen the atrocity they did to chrome's new tab page 15:54 Calinou no? 15:55 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/uxxIPZK.png 15:55 [0gb_us] I could definitely use two more terabytes of disk space. I only have 80 GiB on my local machine. 15:55 FreeFull Yeah, 80 GiB isn't much nowadays 15:55 Calinou more like "nothing" 15:55 Calinou 15:56 Calinou people say I'm a weird guy for using a 256GB SSD and nothing else already 15:56 ShadowNinja Well integrated with google services is nice, but I don't want google+ on my new tab page. 15:56 * PilzAdam 's main partition is 24 GiB 15:56 * Jordach 's main partition is 55GiB 15:56 [0gb_us] Especially when I need a Windows system in VirtualBox for class and a Xubuntu system in VirtualBox as well. I basically have three systems sharing one hard drive. 15:57 FreeFull I could probably still survive on 30 GiB if I had to 15:57 FreeFull But it's nice to be able to hoard data 15:57 [0gb_us] I used to survive on a 20 GiB drive, but I had hardly anything installed. 15:58 * Calinou has 30gb root, 1gb swap, the rest is home 15:58 Jordach 1GB Swap 15:58 Jordach lol 15:58 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: Some people have mentioned that they would like if you maintained your mods, particularly landclaim. 15:58 Calinou why lol? 15:58 * Jordach sits here with 2GB 15:58 Calinou you don't need more these days 15:58 Jordach making 4GB total memory :P 15:58 * PilzAdam has 0.25 GiB swap 15:58 Calinou "total memory" 15:58 Calinou half of your "total memory" is very slow, you should work at nvidia 15:59 * Calinou looks at GTX 660/660 Ti 15:59 Jordach Calinou, 913MB main RAM used 15:59 [0gb_us] Landclaim is being reworked into something larger. It may be a good idea for me to maintain a separate version as well ... I don't know what other ones I have though that shouldn't just be trashed. 15:59 Jordach i can drop that to 256mb without any apps running on W7 15:59 PilzAdam with KDE and FF running I have always > 1 GiB RAM usage 15:59 [0gb_us] Maintained .... Is Landclaim not working any more? 15:59 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: Something larger? 16:00 [0gb_us] A full game. 2000+ nodes. Which is why a separate version in addition is probably a good idea for use with other games. 16:00 ShadowNinja I heard that it was broken with latest git somewhere. 16:01 Jordach hey Jeija 16:01 Jeija hi 16:01 VanessaE hey jeija 16:01 [0gb_us] I never made it compatible with the unstable versions. It was always up to the latest stable version. I do need to maintain it again, but that won't fix the Git version issue. 16:02 [0gb_us] Hello! 16:02 Calinou hi 16:07 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=6 16:07 thexyz top 5 topics 16:08 Jordach plol 16:09 thexyz > Puzzles and questions 16:09 thexyz > 4+4*4=? 16:09 thexyz are you americans that stu^W^W^W^W^Wforget it 16:09 VanessaE this is a puzzle? 16:11 thexyz oh, south africa 16:11 Jordach > south africa 16:11 Jordach seems legit 16:11 * Jordach lols 16:11 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=7456 16:13 VanessaE talks like a 10 year old 16:14 dafull97 VanessaE did you get what i tried telling you 16:15 VanessaE which part? 16:15 dafull97 when i got the recipe thing working 16:16 VanessaE oh yeah I saw 16:16 dafull97 .... i was using the whole mese block, instead of the crystal mese 16:17 PilzAdam thexyz, he apparently is 9 years old 16:17 PilzAdam see his posts 16:18 dafull97 thanks to all for helping me, if there was a way i could "rep" or "recommend" you i would =D 16:22 Jordach EVERYONE RUN!! THE CHANNEL KILLER IS HERE! 16:23 dafull97 what? 16:25 thexyz PilzAdam: judging people by their chronological age is not the best thing to do, but this correlates too well 16:29 GNADev|zRokh question about modding: how do i create a fuction that: 16:29 GNADev|zRokh would make a sound every X seconds, 16:29 GNADev|zRokh that would execute another function in Y seconds 16:29 GNADev|zRokh ... after the start 16:29 GNADev|zRokh do i use ABM? and if so, then how? 16:33 rubenwardy Hi all 16:34 GNADev|zRokh hi 16:34 GNADev|zRokh ruben, how do i make a function (possibly ABM) that makes a sound in X seconds and executes another function in Y seconds after start 16:35 rubenwardy minetest.after(seconds,function) 16:35 rubenwardy wait... 16:35 [0gb_us] Hello! 16:35 rubenwardy yeahj 16:35 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1391 16:36 rubenwardy Do you need to know how to play a sound? 16:40 jin_xi u liek kittehs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSMCRD35ch4 16:41 sfan5 !titöe 16:41 sfan5 !title 16:41 sfan5 derp 16:41 sfan5 MinetestBot! 16:41 MinetestBot sfan5! 16:42 rubenwardy lol 16:43 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 16:43 MinetestBot Hello john_minetest 16:46 GNADev|zRokh sprry, rubenwardy, yes i do... :) like if y = 45 seconds then it will make a sound and exec the function when 45 seconds are done 16:47 dafull97 So you guys said it isn't recommended to run your minetest server root, i made the user... now would i add this user as admin? 16:47 * Jordach just failed 16:48 rubenwardy /grant all 16:48 Jordach material wasnt set to traceable 16:48 rubenwardy where = name, eg "dafull97" 16:48 rubenwardy w/o " 16:48 rubenwardy w/o quotes 16:49 GNADev|zRokh rubenwardy, how do i start the timer when the node is placed? on_place({}) ? 16:49 GNADev|zRokh i mean on_place() 16:50 GNADev|zRokh oh, i have a question, can i download the whole Minetest API Wiki? 16:50 dafull97 im meaning on my VPS, i dont want to run as root... but my server crashes when it starts now 16:51 rubenwardy download lua_api 16:51 GNADev|zRokh you mean the text file? well isnt there a way to download the API website? 16:51 rubenwardy no 16:51 rubenwardy lua api has more 16:52 GNADev|zRokh oh... the API of Lua, not MT? is there a book that i can download? 16:53 dafull97 VanessaE: please help =D 16:53 VanessaE just, as root, move all your files over to some other user account, change the ownership of them to that user, and tweak your start script to the right paths. 16:54 VanessaE then go non-root and launch the server. 16:54 rubenwardy no 16:54 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 16:55 dafull97 i have to change ownership of my server files? 16:55 PilzAdam of course you can download the wiki 16:55 rubenwardy can you? 16:55 GNADev|zRokh but thats the text file that comes with minetest. 16:55 PilzAdam how else can it display in your browser? 16:55 GNADev|zRokh PilzAdam, how? 16:55 GNADev|zRokh ... 16:55 rubenwardy lol 16:55 VanessaE dafull97: yes. chown -R username foldername ; basically, for everything that says /root/ in a path somewhere in your minetest configs/scripts, change those references to /home/username/ 16:55 VanessaE get it? 16:55 GNADev|zRokh i mean so i can use it offline... 16:55 rubenwardy I thought you would say that 16:55 GNADev|zRokh :D 16:55 rubenwardy hes trolling you 16:55 GNADev|zRokh i know 16:56 GNADev|zRokh i pitty the fool who trolls on me 16:56 VanessaE GNADev|zRokh: download the 'raw' file or look in your minetest folder. there's probably already a copy there. 16:56 PilzAdam hows that trolling? one could simply wget the pages or use the browser cache 16:56 GNADev|zRokh the browser has a cache? 16:56 GNADev|zRokh O.o 16:57 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, there is a lua_api.txt in Minetest/doc/ 16:57 VanessaE that should be the same file. 16:57 GNADev|zRokh but i dont want to use that, its too confusing... i want something more graphical 16:57 VanessaE it doesn't change that often 16:57 VanessaE graphical? for a text document? 16:57 VanessaE you're in the wrong field. 16:58 GNADev|zRokh or... VanessaE, how do i download the whole dev folder in minetest.net (dev.minetest.net) with wget? 16:58 VanessaE you don't. 16:58 GNADev|zRokh ? 16:58 VanessaE you download the zip or you `git clone` it 16:58 GNADev|zRokh how do i dl the zip? 16:58 GNADev|zRokh of the api wiki folde 16:58 GNADev|zRokh ...r 16:58 VanessaE um, just go to the github page and click the ZIP button on the right 16:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, since when is the dev wiki on github? 16:59 VanessaE get the api doc out of there, or go directly view it and save the file out 16:59 GNADev|zRokh ... i dont want the text file, i already have it 16:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: where did he say dev wiki? 16:59 GNADev|zRokh dev.minetest.net 16:59 PilzAdam or... VanessaE, how do i download the whole dev folder in minetest.net (dev.minetest.net) with wget? 16:59 VanessaE oh, misread that part. 16:59 GNADev|zRokh dev.minetest.net == minetest.net/dev 16:59 GNADev|zRokh thus the dev folder 17:00 VanessaE wget --recursive http://blah/folder 17:00 PilzAdam ehm, no 17:00 VanessaE or something like that 17:00 VanessaE but that's not a proper use of the tool 17:00 PilzAdam minetest.net/dev isnt dev.minetest.net 17:00 sfan5 holy shit! http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/ 17:00 GNADev|zRokh it isnt? 17:01 GNADev|zRokh thanks vanessae :D 17:01 GNADev|zRokh it works 17:05 thexyz sfan5: wow great! another closed-software, closed-hardware, 146% proprietary piece of TV media center 17:05 Calinou >closed-hardware 17:05 Calinou thexyz: what are you using right now? :P 17:06 thexyz well, okay, they say it can be "hacked" 17:06 thexyz Calinou: yeah, I meant "locked down hardware" 17:06 Calinou locked down is a better term 17:06 Calinou open hardware is dead 17:06 thexyz which you can't, say, install other OS on but it seems I was wrong 17:06 thexyz let's see 17:08 thexyz they seem to be pretty much butthurt about windows 8 marketplace 17:08 rubenwardy GNADev|zRokh: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/9f9cc86327a5f714a328 17:08 GNADev|zRokh whats that? 17:08 rubenwardy code 17:08 thexyz anyway, I want to see specs 17:08 rubenwardy for minetest.after 17:08 GNADev|zRokh oh 17:08 GNADev|zRokh ok, thanks 17:09 rubenwardy replace spec with music name and param with parameters 17:09 rubenwardy see lua_api! 17:09 GNADev|zRokh ok, i will... just not now 17:09 GNADev|zRokh oh, and how do i replace x with y? 17:09 GNADev|zRokh nodes 17:09 GNADev|zRokh or all blocks in x radius to y 17:10 Jordach there's nothing wrong with SteamOS 17:10 Jordach they've had a good idea 17:10 GNADev|zRokh Gaben > Bill Gates 17:10 * Jordach begs to differ 17:11 thexyz then imagine hl3 being linux only 17:11 Calinou will never happen 17:11 Calinou linux-only has never happened for obvious reasons 17:11 dafull97 VanessaE: I cant back into root? 17:11 thexyz okay, being linux first 17:11 dafull97 it is locked me out 17:11 Calinou and AAA games with linux support on release day has almost never happened in these last 5 years 17:11 dafull97 ? 17:12 GNADev|zRokh thexyz OMG, what if :D 17:12 Jordach what if i told you HL3 is FUD 17:13 GNADev|zRokh FUD? 17:13 Jordach Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt 17:13 GNADev|zRokh Forever under development? 17:13 GNADev|zRokh oh... 17:13 VanessaE dafull97: use the same way you always go between user and root 17:13 VanessaE s/go/use to go/ 17:13 GNADev|zRokh well mine works too! 17:13 VanessaE su or sudo or whatever 17:13 GNADev|zRokh i use sudo :P 17:13 thexyz I've never played HL anyway 17:14 thexyz is it good? 17:15 Jordach yes and no 17:15 Jordach some bits are shit, some are good 17:15 Jordach (i've played HL2) 17:15 GNADev|zRokh i've played HL1/HL:S/HL:OS/HL:BS 17:15 GNADev|zRokh :P 17:15 GNADev|zRokh HL:S kinda lagged... 17:16 GNADev|zRokh but not much 17:16 dafull97 VanessaE: i did, it ask for root password... and i type it and it says incorrect password 17:16 Calinou "HL:BS" lol 17:16 VanessaE then you didn't type your password right 17:16 GNADev|zRokh what? 17:16 GNADev|zRokh i didnt finish BS or OS 17:16 GNADev|zRokh :D 17:16 * Jordach waits for blender to render 17:17 Jordach mmmmmm energy drink :D 17:17 GNADev|zRokh mmmmmmmm.... Jordach :D 17:18 * Calinou drinks Jordach 17:18 thexyz BS for bullshit, correct? 17:18 Jordach 0.O 17:18 GNADev|zRokh yeah, it kinda is... 17:18 GNADev|zRokh OS is better :D 17:18 Pelayo_ I always called it Blue Shit 17:18 GNADev|zRokh :D 17:18 dafull97 VanessaE: will be on in a few mins... 17:19 VanessaE no, I'm heading off for a while 17:19 VanessaE bbl 17:19 * GNADev|zRokh is using Transmission to peer file download_full_minetest_api_website_free_full_premium_best_fast_dev_minetest_net.torrent 17:19 GNADev|zRokh :D 17:19 GNADev|zRokh best torrent name ever :D 17:20 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, shush 17:20 GNADev|zRokh ok 17:22 GNADev|zRokh hey, i never did ask, how do you ppl like the idea of Terror? 17:23 rubenwardy ? 17:23 rubenwardy Terror is terrific 17:24 GNADev|zRokh :D 17:24 GNADev|zRokh you mean Terror-ific :D 17:25 GNADev|zRokh [Game] Terror [terror] 17:25 GNADev|zRokh im Modding General 17:26 * Jordach coughs 17:26 Jordach that's a bad pun and you should feel ashamed 17:27 rubenwardy Are you ragnar? 17:28 GNADev|zRokh yes 17:28 * GNADev|zRokh is so ashamed... 17:28 GNADev|zRokh rubenwardy, didnt you know? 17:28 GNADev|zRokh even jordach knew i was Ragnar 17:28 GNADev|zRokh :D 17:28 Jordach and that's why you're often !muted 17:28 GNADev|zRokh thats mean... i cant stop being Ragnar... its who i am 17:29 * Jordach continually waits in perputuum waiting for blender to finish rendering 17:29 Jordach 30 light samples; yes i'm mad :D 17:30 GNADev|zRokh PilzAdam, remember you helped me make a weapon mod? can you help me a little with this one? 17:30 GNADev|zRokh i need help with the code for shooting bullets 17:31 GNADev|zRokh rubenwardy, how do i disable the movement of the tool when used? is that possible? like when clicked with it then it doesnt move (like breaking) 17:31 GNADev|zRokh like the breaking animation* 17:32 rubenwardy no idea 17:32 Jordach you cant and wont stop punch animation 17:32 Jordach 17:33 GNADev|zRokh yo, jordach, you know like the meme where a girl takes away a guys sunglasses, he has another pair on and then he sais "Deal with it" 17:33 GNADev|zRokh i love that meme :D 17:35 * Jordach is considering making a Pack of Minetest Playing Cards 17:36 GNADev|zRokh oo :D 17:36 GNADev|zRokh can i help? 17:36 Jordach no 17:36 GNADev|zRokh can i help 17:36 Jordach no 17:37 * GNADev|zRokh will only stop is Jordach says yes 17:37 Jordach you forget i have !mute 17:37 GNADev|zRokh can i PLEASE help (last attempt) 17:37 Jordach oh, and i silenced your PM channel in Quassel 17:37 GNADev|zRokh ? 17:38 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/379/untitled.png 17:39 Jordach (finally got a use for the coffee mugs) 17:41 GNADev|zRokh Jordach: Not Bad 17:42 Jordach you're taking up 68% of my chat buffer 17:42 Jordach gtfo 17:42 Jordach (current onscreen buffer and not sqlite db scrollback) 17:43 * GNADev|zRokh is making textures for stuff in Terror 17:45 dafull97 PilzAdam you here? 17:46 dafull97 Any Developers or people good with VPS/SSH here? 17:47 Jordach dafull97, get putty 17:47 Jordach !g "putty ssh" 17:47 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ 17:47 Jordach or sudo apt-get install putty 17:48 dafull97 yes, i need help with root 17:48 dafull97 i am locked out off room 17:48 dafull97 root 17:49 Jordach dafull97, sudo su 17:49 Jordach then type pass 17:49 Jordach it logs you into root 17:50 Jordach (that is provided you have sudoers on) 17:51 dafull97 not in the sudoers file 17:51 dafull97 that what it says 17:52 Jordach hmm 17:52 Jordach you'll need to re-install the OS 17:53 Calinou you do not log into root 17:53 Calinou err 17:53 Calinou nvm 17:54 Calinou dafull97: does your host let you use root? :P 17:55 dafull97 yes 17:56 dafull97 i made a new user for minetest server, then root stopped working 17:58 GNADev|zRokh ok, i think im done with the textures :D 17:59 Jordach prototype Ace of Mese: http://i.imgur.com/Jx3VftE.png 17:59 Jordach i will provide print out sheets for people when i'm done 18:00 Jordach and yes - ace of diamonds is obvious ;) 18:03 dafull97 anymore help? 18:04 GNADev|zRokh nope.avi 18:08 Jordach ;) https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111999#p111999 18:12 GNADev|zRokh how to make a function? 18:12 GNADev|zRokh fucntion start_timer(){} ? 18:14 Jordach there are no curly brackets in Lua 18:18 PilzAdam Jordach, pls show me a Lua table then ;-) 18:19 Jordach PilzAdam, except those 18:19 Jordach functions aren't like C or Java 18:19 Jordach PilzAdam, i've been toying with repl.it as well as Love 2D 18:22 GNADev|zRokh what? 18:22 GNADev|zRokh wait wait wait.... so how do i make a function? 18:22 Jordach !g "lua function" 18:22 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.lua.org/pil/25.2.html 18:24 GNADev|zRokh Jordach: let's flip da coin 18:24 GNADev|zRokh Flips a coin: TAILS 18:24 GNADev|zRokh Flips a coin: HEADS 18:24 GNADev|zRokh what are you? 18:24 GNADev|zRokh Tails or Heads? 18:25 Jordach neither 18:25 Jordach games like that are 1:2 chance 18:25 Jordach I'd rather use a Gaussian Distributor 18:25 Jordach 10 slots to distribute 1 coin 18:26 Jordach side of coin doesnt matter, the machine is the chance 18:26 DanDuncombe Is paramat here? 18:27 DanDuncombe AH, he isn't 18:27 Jordach plol 18:27 GNADev|zRokh wait... i have a great game idea :D 18:27 GNADev|zRokh Minetest Roulette 18:27 GNADev|zRokh its like russian roulette... just with TNT :D 18:27 GNADev|zRokh ok, it doesnt seem logical... 18:29 GNADev|zRokh what could be the "revolver" in Minetest Roulette? 18:29 dafull97 anyone that can help me with my ssh? 18:31 * Jordach hands john_minetest a hammer 18:32 dafull97 no noone can? =D 18:32 GNADev|zRokh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7300 18:32 GNADev|zRokh :D 18:32 GNADev|zRokh nah dood... dont think so 18:33 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, check the link 18:36 dafull97 VannessaE: are you here? 18:37 GNADev|zRokh john, it is time... 18:38 GNADev|zRokh you mean brokenskull... :D 18:38 GNADev|zRokh click [ -- LIKE -- ] if you have ever combusted 18:38 GNADev|zRokh *click* 18:39 GNADev|zRokh who's He Man? 18:39 GNADev|zRokh you mean THE bird lady :P 18:42 Jordach john_minetest, Tony Stark is everyone's dream 18:42 Jordach hands down. 18:42 * Jordach probably prefers being a Minetest character 18:43 * GNADev|zRokh puts his hands up in the air, trying to act like he doesn't care but tonight he's all alone because now he's in the friends zone. 18:44 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, what song was just told in the 3rd person? 18:46 GNADev|zRokh john_minetest, what was the song? 18:46 GNADev|zRokh anybody? 18:47 GNADev|zRokh Your Favourite Martian - Friend Zone 18:48 Jordach <- not giving a fuck 18:49 GNADev|zRokh :/ 18:49 * GNADev|zRokh is that song 18:49 GNADev|zRokh yet nobody seems to bat an eye 18:50 dafull97 Anyone can help me? =D locked out of ssh root 18:51 pitriss dafull97: if I'm not confused, this is not #ubuntu but #minetest 18:52 dafull97 true, has to do with minetest, ha 18:52 dafull97 made a user just to run minetest 18:52 dafull97 and right after i cant access root 18:52 pitriss but, it is not MT problem but OS problem 18:52 pitriss so please go spam to correct channel:] 18:52 dafull97 ok... are yu development or mod/admin 18:53 dafull97 ? 18:53 pitriss Nope, I'm "only" unix sysadmin.. 18:53 GNADev|zRokh sysadmin? whats a system administrator? 18:53 pitriss But i don't want to help you with your messed up ubuntu.. 18:53 GNADev|zRokh you mean a PC Owner? 18:54 GNADev|zRokh oh, snap! 18:54 dafull97 ok, then please dont reply with these lame replies im looking for help, not to be corrected 18:54 dafull97 thanks! 18:54 pitriss dafull97: you asking lame questions, so i reply with vague answers:) 18:54 dafull97 sure, bequiet 18:55 dafull97 any one else can *HELP* 18:55 pitriss dafull97: nobody here have telpatic abilities so nobody can know what you did wrong.. 18:55 pitriss dafull97: so, revert your changes or as somebody said, reinstall your vps 18:55 dafull97 dont reply to me, thanks!! 18:55 pitriss dafull97: you write in public room, so everybody can reply.. :) 18:56 dafull97 i wont reply to you kid 18:56 pitriss lol:) 18:56 pitriss but kid.. yeah such compliment..:D 18:57 Jordach Fun Fact: my playing cards have something clever about them :) 18:58 Jordach when you have 9 and 10, well, let's just say single ingots / crystals wont fit ;) 18:58 GNADev|zRokh what? 18:58 GNADev|zRokh what? 18:58 pitriss Jordach: you are creyting some card game mod? If yes, nice! 18:58 pitriss *creating 18:58 GNADev|zRokh no, real life cards 18:58 GNADev|zRokh he'll make a printable sheet for them when its finished 19:00 pitriss even better:D but, in real cards is too much "woo doo" to keep them durable.. :/ 19:00 Jordach pitriss, use craft card, because two layers of that + lamination is almost impossible to break 19:00 Jordach comes in A4 and is usually white 19:01 pitriss ahh..:) yes that can be solution: 19:01 pitriss ) 19:03 Jordach Diamonds, Hearts and Mese is done 19:04 * Jordach grunts loudly 19:04 Jordach :( no MS publisher type thing in LibreOffice 19:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111998#p111998 oppinions? 19:06 Jordach debatable 19:06 Jordach not entirely sure 19:07 Jordach i'll move it one one condition: that name must change to consensus_game 19:07 Jordach brb 19:26 PilzAdam someone should tell him to come back when he is older: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112026#p112026 19:41 ShadowNinja Note! Your signature is not displayed in your posts because you have not spent enough time at the forum. [...] <-- Was the minimum post count changed? 19:42 Jordach it used to be 10 posts 19:42 Jordach literally. 19:43 ShadowNinja Yes, and I have 33. What is it now? How much must I flood the forum to get it to show up? 19:43 Jordach probably 100 19:43 * Calinou facehooves 19:44 Jordach <- isnt sure 19:44 Calinou such a restriction above 10 posts is stupid 19:44 Jordach fun fact: i've finished all my card faces 19:44 Jordach except the rendered characters 19:45 Jordach i'm planning on a two stage process for royal cards: Sam I for king, MinetestBot for Queen and Sam II for Jack 19:45 Jordach (hint, Sam II is the successor to Sam I) ;) 19:46 Evergreen You mind if I have the .blend file for my skin? 19:47 Jordach ... 19:47 Jordach why 19:47 Jordach and which one 19:47 Jordach normal or the super secret project variant 19:47 Jordach GOGOGO. 19:49 Evergreen The normal one 19:49 Evergreen The tree one ofc 20:10 sfan5 Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112043#p112043 20:11 Jordach hits close spoiler 20:11 Jordach sfan5, i've almost finished :D 20:11 sfan5 :D 20:11 Jordach then i'll make a .pdf as everyone can read it 20:11 Jordach not to mention LO exports in it 20:15 PilzAdam sfan5, can the forum make an exception and allow me to take that picture as signature? 20:16 sfan5 PilzAdam: ln -s $this 20:16 sfan5 oops, swap them 20:16 * sfan5 always forgets the ln -s syntax 20:17 sfan5 (only forum admins can change that and I don't think PunBB allows making excuses) 20:19 ShadowNinja PunBB isn't very feature-packed. I doubt that can be done. 20:20 Jordach fuck, i can fit 5 playing cards (poker size) to 1 a4 sheetr 20:20 Jordach -r 20:20 Jordach !c 56*2 20:20 MinetestBot 112 20:21 Jordach !c 112/5 20:21 MinetestBot 22.4 20:21 Jordach dammit 20:21 Jordach 22 pages \o/ 20:24 Jordach there's no rotate in LO 20:24 Jordach wtf 20:25 Jordach !c 112/4 20:25 MinetestBot 28 20:26 Jordach 28 pages for 4 to 1 page (i really cant fit 5, just noticed the text border line) 20:28 sfan5 Jordach: "text border line" 20:28 sfan5 what is that? 20:29 Jordach sfan5, where text and shit wraps round 20:29 Jordach i aint going past that line 20:29 sfan5 I'm sure you can disable that 20:29 Jordach some printers wont 20:29 sfan5 = shitty printer 20:29 sfan5 anyway 20:30 sfan5 good night everyone 20:33 paramat progress in paragen mod http://i.imgur.com/UG7WfTj.png 20:33 Jordach woah 20:33 Jordach but i still prefer mapgen 20:38 Jordach btw, 7/28 pages 20:43 NakedFury looking wild 20:52 * Calinou throws a pony at john_minetest's old laptop 20:53 * john_minetest laughes. Nothing can kill a Lenovo T61. 21:03 dafull97 who is present? 21:05 PilzAdam who is future? 21:05 Calinou /whois future 21:05 Calinou /whowas past 21:05 Calinou err, /whois present 21:05 Calinou /whowill future 21:05 Calinou :> 21:05 dafull97 hahaha 21:06 dafull97 whatever 21:06 PilzAdam * [future] (~future@2001:4118:10:4000::2206): future 21:06 PilzAdam * [future] calvino.freenode.net :Milan, IT 21:06 PilzAdam * [future] is using a secure connection 21:06 PilzAdam * [future] Ende der WHOIS-Liste. 21:06 PilzAdam past and present dont exist 21:07 harrison I wonder why none of these vr projects includes text2speech 21:08 harrison using an external server 21:08 harrison espeak perhaps 21:09 harrison we are laughing now 21:10 harrison I like espeak 21:10 harrison it sounds like a computer 21:10 harrison but is easy to listen to 21:16 dafull97 [0gb_us] assistance? or PilzAdam? 21:16 [0gb_us] Hmm? WHat do you need? 21:16 [0gb_us] I just got here, I don't know what you've been working on. 21:19 dafull97 well, are you good in ssh? 21:21 [0gb_us] Ssh is just like sh, which I use all the time. 21:22 [0gb_us] I do use ssh to contact my server as well. 21:31 [0gb_us] dafull97, what are you needing help with in ssh? 21:36 pitriss lol again that kid who broke his ubuntu VPS..:D 21:39 [0gb_us] Hmm. I think most of my dominoes are in place, I just have to wait for people to tip them over. Now I just need to draw textures. Does anyone here know of any good texture art tutorials? I'm kind of bad at drawing. 21:40 dafull97 well, i made a new user account from ssh, named minetest to run my mine test server 21:40 dafull97 [0gb_us] ^^ 21:41 dafull97 now root always tells me it is the wring password 21:41 dafull97 and wont connect 21:41 [0gb_us] Did you give the minetest account a password? 21:42 [0gb_us] Wait, do you mean it says the root password is wrong or the minetest account password is wrong? 21:43 dafull97 root pass is wromg 21:43 [0gb_us] Did you set root's password? 21:43 dafull97 and yes root and minetest user acc. is the same 21:43 dafull97 pass 21:43 [0gb_us] How can minetest and root be the same user? That makes no sense. 21:44 dafull97 i meant they are same pass 21:44 [0gb_us] Did you explicitly set root's password, or were you using sudo? 21:44 dafull97 it is a vps, the root pass was set when i formated it to ubuntu 21:45 dafull97 when it prompted for one 21:45 dafull97 i was in root when i made minetest acc. 21:45 [0gb_us] Ubuntu doesn't prompt for a root password. They have a policy against setting the root password for security reasons. 21:46 FreeFull It's all sudo 21:46 [0gb_us] Hmm ... You were logged in as root before? I don't know then ... 21:46 dafull97 i was in the root ssh 21:46 dafull97 root@x.x.x.x 21:47 [0gb_us] Okay, do you have an administrator account? An account with sudo access that you can use to fix root's password? 21:47 dafull97 i don't 21:47 dafull97 i should have set minetest as root? 21:47 [0gb_us] No. 21:47 [0gb_us] Minetest should not run as root. 21:47 dafull97 i mean admin 21:48 [0gb_us] Minetest should not run as an administrator. 21:48 dafull97 k making sure i did it right 21:48 [0gb_us] I have no idea why the password would change on you like that ... I assume you tried entering the password several times. 21:49 dafull97 idk, i might be able to contact vps support 21:50 [0gb_us] I'm not sure how to recover a password. You may have to reinstall the system. But if setting up a seccond account kills the first account's password, it'll probably happen again in the new copy. 21:50 [0gb_us] Yeah, see if support can reset your password. 21:57 dafull97 i found a way in, with a virtual console 21:59 dafull97 [0gb_us] 22:01 [0gb_us] Okay, good. Do you know how to set your password from there? 22:03 dafull97 i tried passwd, but not work 22:04 [0gb_us] What error did you get? 22:05 dafull97 no it said it set when i try connect regular with root put it in and it says permission denied 22:06 [0gb_us] So you still aren't in as root then with the virtual console. 22:06 dafull97 yes im root in virtual console 22:07 [0gb_us] So ... permission is denied for root? 22:07 dafull97 says root@x.x.... 22:07 dafull97 no im in as root in virtual console 22:08 dafull97 when i try connecting regular console it says permisson denied still 22:08 [0gb_us] Your system is wonky if it's denying permission while you are root. It sounds like when I was getting permission errors as root in Fedora ... 22:08 dafull97 i tried passwd in root in virtual console 22:08 dafull97 it changed fine 22:09 [0gb_us] Okay, good. So what's the issue then? I'm confused. 22:09 dafull97 when i try connecting in a regular ssh console it says permission denied when i put in password 22:11 [0gb_us] OH! I think I get it ... Is the address correct in the ssh terminal? 22:12 dafull97 yes 22:12 dafull97 when i try connecting in minetest@x.x.x.x 22:12 dafull97 and put pass in 22:13 dafull97 it works 22:13 [0gb_us] All I can think is that your VPS provider is blocking it for some reason. 22:13 dafull97 it was working right before minetest profile 22:14 [0gb_us] Yeah, I don't understand why that would be. I'd ask the support team about that. They have a better idea how their system works. 22:16 pitriss just my small, irrelevant comment.. he is trying to fix that half day.. reinstal of linux server will took less than hour.. :) 22:16 pitriss *take 22:16 dafull97 yea i will zip .minetest and download on my computer 22:17 dafull97 reinstall 22:17 dafull97 and try again 22:17 [0gb_us] Yeah, I agree that will be a quick fix, but if we don't first find the problem, won't it happen on the new install too? 22:17 pitriss btw vanessa adviced you that just when you messed up your system 22:17 dafull97 and pitriss 22:17 dafull97 i have been total for maybe an hour 22:18 pitriss [0gb_us]: i dont think so. he apparently doesn't have any idea what is he doing.. 22:18 dafull97 i know more than you 22:18 dafull97 thanks 22:18 pitriss [0gb_us]: it looks like admin failure 22:18 [0gb_us] Could be. I can't tell what's going on from here. 22:19 pitriss dafull97: lol I was admin of more than 100 linux production servers, kid:) 22:19 dafull97 i just dont know about how minetest works 22:19 dafull97 suree, proof? 22:21 pitriss dafull97: I don't need to prove you anything.. You never told here what exactly you did.. You was just begging for help.. Enough for me to not start to help you.. with vague questions, only vague answers are possible:) 22:22 bryn243 So then why say you know more? 22:23 pitriss bryn: because he told me opposite:) 22:24 pitriss bryn243: I bet he did something non standard to that ubuntu install and as most ppl know ubunto doesn't like nonstandard ways.. 22:24 dafull97 i told you opposite of what? 22:25 bryn243 I don't think it's that hard to figure out what the opposite is. 22:26 dafull97 ya, kinda... he obviously dont know what he saying... told 0gb the same i told him... he had nothing... only stupid anwsers 22:27 pitriss dafull97: you told me that you know more about linux than me. I'm sure you are not right. Because if you know linux atleast on basic knowledge, then you should be able reverting your changes:) 22:27 [0gb_us] Well that doesn't make me feel like trying to help again in the future ... 22:28 dafull97 0gb, i meant he only had stupid awnsers 22:28 pitriss dafull97: and when you will have atleast basic knowledge, then you will never run server with root privs:] 22:28 dafull97 you are one of the many i look up to here... i use your mods and more in my server 22:28 dafull97 pitriss was for testing purposes 22:29 Menche why run the server as root at all? even for testing? 22:29 dafull97 [0gb_us] look at my replies to you ^^ 22:29 pitriss dafull97: even on testing purposes it is not acceptable.. it is just forbidden practice everytime 22:29 Menche just make the new user *first* then do the testing as that user 22:29 [0gb_us] I saw, but I'm kind of with them on this. Running as root isn't really safe. 22:29 pitriss dafull97: it is shorter way to get your vps hacked 22:30 pitriss *shortest 22:30 dafull97 i knew that, i was for testing 22:31 pitriss dafull97: I repeat: It is not acceptable at all.. 22:31 dafull97 when i moved files from root to minetest it didnt work anymore... 22:31 pitriss dafull97: everyone who have atleast basic knowledge of linux just know that and do not do such things at al..:) 22:32 [0gb_us] THere's a huge hole ... in the middle of my map. What the heck? 22:33 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:33 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:36 [0gb_us] Hello! 22:36 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:39 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:44 [0gb_us] Another social network, eh? 22:44 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:46 [0gb_us] Does it have Twitter's character limit or Facebooks demand that you give them your real name and a cell phone number? 22:46 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:48 dafull97 wow thats crazy 22:48 dafull97 my root just all of a sudden worked 22:48 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:48 [0gb_us] Okay, I'll try it out then. I don't mind people having my real name (all you have to do is whois my user name to get it anyway), but I don't like that to be the name that shows up, as I prefer my user name. And I don't have a cell phone, nor do I want to give out a cell number if I did have one. And I speak in full sentences, so 140 characters (or whatever Twitter's limit is) is quite bothersome for me. 22:48 dafull97 i was about to reinstall 22:49 [0gb_us] Great to hear, dafull97! 22:49 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:49 dafull97 i was about reinstall, and i was like "i will try one more time" abd it workd -_- 22:49 [0gb_us] Even to my freinds, I go by 0gb.us. 22:49 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:50 [0gb_us] As long as there's no requirement that I don't enter my user name as my real name, there's no problem. But doing that is against Facebook's terms of service. 22:50 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:54 [0gb_us] prestotron55, found another thing. You can hide your age, but not your birth day. Could you add a way to hide the birthday but show the age? 22:54 dafull97 omg!?!?! 22:54 [0gb_us] Hmm? 22:54 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:55 dafull97 i was about to start server and it says no worlds available 22:55 [0gb_us] Thanks! 22:55 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:55 [0gb_us] No worlds? Odd. Doesn't it usually create a new world if there are none? 22:55 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:55 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:55 [0gb_us] Oh, no rush, no rush. 22:56 dafull97 nevermind... 22:56 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:56 dafull97 when i changed owner it can no longer run under root 22:56 dafull97 i have to run it under minetest 22:56 prestotron55 [deleted] 22:57 [0gb_us] I used to build my own forum software, I know about wanting to build things with your own hands. 22:58 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:00 PilzAdam prestotron55, stop advertising this site 23:01 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:01 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:02 * [0gb_us] busts up laughing 23:02 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:02 dafull97 My server has been Finalized thanks to all you guys help!! 23:03 [0gb_us] Great to hear! 23:05 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:05 dafull97 thanks agai... 23:05 dafull97 again* 23:06 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:06 dafull97 if any would like to join me, ip of server is 5.231.69.196 23:06 dafull97 port 30000 23:06 PilzAdam !up 5.231.69.196 23:06 MinetestBot 5.231.69.196:30000 is up (394ms) 23:06 dafull97 394ms???? 23:07 prestotron55 [deleted] 23:07 [0gb_us] See you later. 23:07 dafull97 dang! 23:07 dafull97 !up 5.231.69.196:30000 23:07 PilzAdam dafull97, thats the ping from germany 23:07 MinetestBot dafull97: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 23:07 PilzAdam AFAIK 23:07 dafull97 !up 5.231.69.196 30000 23:07 MinetestBot 5.231.69.196:30000 is up (152ms) 23:07 dafull97 yes 23:07 dafull97 it was a ping jump see 23:07 dafull97 !up 5.231.69.196 30000 23:07 MinetestBot 5.231.69.196:30000 is up (117ms) 23:08 PilzAdam eh, dont spam the bot 23:08 dafull97 k, sorry 23:08 PilzAdam everyone should know that the ping displayed at the bot or the public server list is meaningless 23:12 Menche !up menche.us 23:12 MinetestBot menche.us:30000 is up (381ms) 23:13 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 23:13 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (482ms) 23:13 PilzAdam Menche, /query MinetestBot 23:13 Menche ? 23:14 PilzAdam you can use these commands in PM too, you dont need to run them in this channel 23:14 Menche ok sorry 23:15 Menche what's the difference between /query and /msg ? they both seem to work. 23:15 PilzAdam /query just opens a new window or tab in your client 23:16 [0gb_us] I was looking for the /query command earlier, but I forgot which it was. 23:41 kaeza anyone has a link to mauve's aerophonics mod? 23:42 [0gb_us] It looks like he took it down: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2323 23:44 kaeza yep :( 23:44 kaeza that's why I'm asking here 23:47 [0gb_us] I mean that I don't think any remaining link will be valid. Someone will have to reupload it. Otherwise, it has been lost. 23:49 Evergreen Heh, something I just noticed was that minecraft is officially supporting shaders now, one of them being bump mapping. Now we have something else we can say we did first 23:50 [0gb_us] His server's first rule makes no sense ("* Chose a normal username with no more than two digits."). Why no more than two digits in your user name? WHat good does that rule possibly do? It excludes people such as jojoa1997. 23:50 Evergreen One thing I think you shouldn't do is just delete the mod topic, at least ask for it to be moved to old mods 23:51 [0gb_us] I can't seem to find any of his topics that still have valid links. 23:51 [0gb_us] He did this to erase himself. 23:52 kaeza [0gb_us], I think it's done to deter people like joe1234 and such 23:52 kaeza I mean, random numbers just for the sake of it 23:52 [0gb_us] kaeza, there's no reason why joe1234 shouldn't be used. There's nothing wrong with using numbers. 23:53 ShadowNinja Greifers tend to chose names with lots of numbers, and I find them anoying. If they are random that is. 23:53 [0gb_us] That's my whole point. 23:53 kaeza people with names * 23:53 [0gb_us] I see, ShadowNinja. 23:53 PilzAdam [0gb_us], joe123214, joe132424, joe3243284, joe123823... 23:53 [0gb_us] Well, that will just get vandals to use random letters instead of random numbers. 23:54 PilzAdam it makes it harder to remember people 23:54 kaeza best one yet: iIlIl1Il1 23:54 [0gb_us] kaeza, http://xkcd.com/1105/ 23:55 kaeza [0gb_us], hah! 23:55 ShadowNinja Tab completion, or in IRC Ctrl-C Ctrl-V helps with names like that. 23:55 kaeza that guy may have got the idea from there :P 23:55 * harrison deploys Inky Tendrils 23:56 [0gb_us] kaeza, oh, that wasn't a name you made up just now? 23:56 kaeza nope 23:56 kaeza someone actually connected with some name like that :P 23:57 harrison eep 23:57 Evergreen I'm glad that topywo has been around downloading mods before omploader was broken 23:57 kaeza seeing as that would be a 99% chance of being either a troll or a griefer, was a ban in this case