Time Nick Message 00:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:00 VanessaE ok 00:00 Peacock im old school, when i bend over i need to see wingtips lol 00:00 jojoa1997 and started a new one 00:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:00 proller no, you start it again 00:00 jojoa1997 you are arguing right now 00:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:00 jojoa1997 STOP 00:00 jojoa1997 quote from English teacher 00:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:00 Shadowfire Wait a second.. I didn't stop... It was only stopped if everyone hugged VanessaE 00:01 Shadowfire ^ hugs VanessaE 00:01 VanessaE proller: 09-13 20:03] it's 36C by my house <--- isn't that just a little bit...warm? 00:01 * Prestotron562 hugs VanessaE 00:01 proller LOL LOL LOOK LOL HAHAHA xD LOL I HAVE 0 FOLLOWERS LOLL LOL LOL xD LOL xD LOL xD LOL xD 00:01 jojoa1997 Isn't it nice outside? 00:01 Shadowfire okay now its done 00:01 Peacock proller and prostatetron: http://goo.gl/KflQmh 00:01 jojoa1997 yes 00:01 VanessaE buttering me up won't help :) 00:01 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:01 jojoa1997 NO IT IS NOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:01 Shadowfire :) 00:01 * jojoa1997 hugs #minetest(users) 00:01 proller Peacock, i'm left 00:03 Peacock http://hypem.com/track/1z1e4/James+Brown+-+People+Get+Up+%28WET+PAINT+Remix%29 00:03 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:04 Peacock 2 more years and he can die for oil, in 5 he can drink :P 00:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:04 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, WRONG!!! 00:05 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:05 jojoa1997 anyways in order to isntal Micro Visual 2012 i have to restart the pc bbs 00:05 Peacock youd think if people are old enough to die in wars, theyre old enough to drink 00:05 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:05 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, wrong again 00:05 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:05 * jojoa1997 favorite years are 1997 and 1987 00:05 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:05 Peacock why 87? market crash? 00:06 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:06 jojoa1997 nope and you will never know why(hint:wasnt an event at all) 00:06 Peacock your daddy became a mommy? XD 00:06 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, stop asking and 14 is too young 00:06 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:06 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:07 jojoa1997 nope and you will never know why(hint:>>>>>>>>WASN"T AND EVENT AT ALL<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<) 00:07 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, nope 00:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:07 proller but look as 12 00:07 Peacock ugh, and im pushing 30 lol 00:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:08 proller yes 00:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:08 Peacock buddahs? 00:09 Shadowfire So I have a question,,, Now that I have 0.4.7 git.. and it has the texture thingy... the website said put it in all.. but if I do that It doesn't let me select it and it seems not to work,., 00:09 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:09 Shadowfire Am I misinterrpiting something??? 00:09 Shadowfire I want to use TestBDcraft 00:10 VanessaE Shadowfire: put your texture packs in .minetest/textures (not /all) 00:10 PilzAdam Shadowfire, yes, texture dont go in all/ anymore in latest git 00:10 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1592 00:10 VanessaE whole folders go there 00:10 VanessaE then select the one you want in the menu 00:10 Shadowfire why is there and all? 00:10 Peacock the joy of TPs lol 00:10 Shadowfire I move them out of all.. 00:10 VanessaE all is a sort of override/legacy thing 00:10 VanessaE don't use it. 00:10 Shadowfire I have MineToon and TestBDcraft 00:11 Peacock methinks the lua menu should handle importing TP's and placing them wherever they should go (that month) 00:11 Shadowfire Sez no information availible on the left hand side??? 00:12 VanessaE Shadowfire: no info.txt or whatever the file was 00:12 VanessaE but if you can select it, that's good enough 00:12 Shadowfire okay I select it and go in to game mode and I dont see a change from default textures 00:13 Peacock thats normal :P 00:13 Shadowfire so I am guessing it is not reading something 00:13 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:13 Peacock im sure proller will miss you :P 00:13 VanessaE Shadowfire: did you make sure that your "texture pack" is just a folder full of images? 00:13 Shadowfire Ok Prestotron562 have a good night 00:13 VanessaE e.g. .minetest/textures/testbdcraft/default_cobble.png and the like 00:13 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:14 Peacock what might be simpler: treat TPs like skins, stick them all in the same folder as zip's 00:14 Shadowfire oh :) 00:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:14 Shadowfire can I kill the all folder,... or is that a bad idea? 00:14 VanessaE don't bother with that folder 00:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:15 proller Prestotron562, you already can print numbers from 1 to 10? 00:15 Peacock lol 00:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:15 proller wooow! 00:15 Peacock full sail college ... Titanic campus :P 00:15 proller its 158 iq 00:15 Jordach for i=1, 1<10 do print (i) 00:15 Jordach ^ lua code right there 00:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:16 proller you is/ 00:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:16 Peacock well i was ranked top 5% in Ontario and look at me, i hang here :P 00:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:18 Peacock well IQ's and personalities rarely have anything to do with eachother 00:19 Peacock one of my teachers wrote, and i a quote: "extremely smart, and as much a pain in the ass" lol 00:20 Peacock dont know about the smart bit with two failed businesses under my belt, but wtv lol least i tried 00:21 Peacock lol i still have people joining my test map saying "this sucks" 00:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:22 Peacock of course it sucks, theres nothing there lol 00:23 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:24 Peacock though is funny, i had 3 players login with the same IP earlier 00:24 * Prestotron562 has 196 Followers! Almost there to 200! 00:25 PilzAdam Prestotron562, dont adverties your twitter account here 00:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:27 PilzAdam why do you "inform" us about it? 00:27 jojoa1997 I'm back 00:27 * Jordach is running on critical power level 00:27 * jojoa1997 uses this on all who are connected to #minetest http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Knf3U5W7Zi4/UMJk9TUT-DI/AAAAAAAAB68/0bliW7hZ_Zs/s1600/Launcher2012-12-03_17-12-28_632.JPG 00:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:28 Jordach informing can also mean spam to some people ;) 00:28 Jordach see spam email 00:28 * jojoa1997 uses kitten grenades 00:28 Peacock dont wish to be anal, but adverts is selling shit :P 00:28 Shadowfire Okay... Cudos to the Dev's for being able to download in client... that is AWSOME!!! 00:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: what's the story with farming_plus? Are you going to merge zeg9's mapgen branch? 00:28 jojoa1997 what heppened? 00:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:30 Peacock but who uses skype? XD 00:30 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:30 Peacock really, how old is he really? 00:31 PilzAdam VanessaE, didnt I already tell you about it? 00:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: I don't remember now. 00:31 PilzAdam have you read the latest posts in the topic? 00:31 * Jordach buys VanessaE some more C64 RAM 00:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: nope. 00:32 VanessaE *9reads* 00:32 VanessaE -9 00:32 Peacock kill -9 00:32 VanessaE Jordach: my C64 already has 34MB available to it (when said devices work properly0. that's the max it can handle :) 00:33 Jordach KILL THE TRAITOR! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110387#p110387 00:33 proller Prestotron562, i have 36 cantimeter penis, just informing. 00:33 Jordach centimeter* 00:33 PilzAdam cantimeter = 0.1 centimeter? :-p 00:33 * Jordach suggests 3.6'' 00:33 proller no, 1.1 00:34 Peacock cantimeters lol 00:34 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:34 proller want to try? 00:34 Peacock lol 00:34 * Jordach choked 00:35 Peacock how exactly would he try his own... 00:35 Peacock never mind lol 00:35 Jordach i actually choked 00:35 Peacock then stop choking on presto's .... :P 00:36 * jojoa1997 turns on cernsorship 00:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok so having read those posts...no resolution. wtf are you two waiting for, Christmas? 00:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:36 VanessaE :) 00:36 Peacock just the second coming of christ 00:36 PilzAdam yay, christmas 00:36 * Jordach thinks that PilzAdam needs a new title 00:37 PilzAdam yes, something like "Lord", "Sir", "Master" 00:37 jojoa1997 ps Prestotron562 i like 1987 because it is my name for my Guitar Hero 3 player and also it sounds cool and it rolls 00:37 Peacock supreme chancellor? :P 00:37 jojoa1997 Knight PilzAdam 00:37 jojoa1997 King George III 00:37 Jordach 'tis my position jojoa1997 00:37 jojoa1997 Knight Jordach 00:37 jojoa1997 King Arthur PilzAdam 00:37 PilzAdam you acutally should call me "Sir Adam", I finished the Dark Age game 00:38 jojoa1997 have any of you played The Battle for Wesnoth? 00:38 PilzAdam I tried it, but I didnt like it 00:38 jojoa1997 i like it 00:38 * jojoa1997 likes strategy 00:38 Peacock hail PilzAdam, Queen of Great Britain and Northern India! 00:38 * jojoa1997 ports The Battle for Wesnoth to Minetest 00:39 * Jordach starts a revolution 00:39 PilzAdam s/Queen/Pony 00:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: at any rate, please do something to fix farming_plus.... use zeg9's code, write your own, I don't care what. :) 00:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, but Im lazy 00:39 jojoa1997 PilzAdam please dont pass the Tea Act on the USA 00:39 Peacock how many crops does regular farming have? 00:39 VanessaE Peacock: two. 00:39 Peacock two crops? 00:39 VanessaE cotton and wheat. 00:39 * jojoa1997 relizes that everyon is lazy 00:40 Peacock that sucks like an electrolux 00:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: seen where I added HDX support for farming? :) 00:40 PilzAdam no 00:40 PilzAdam :-p 00:40 Shadowfire Okay... so is there a git version for Windows? 00:40 PilzAdam Shadowfire, yea, there are builds in the forum 00:40 VanessaE Shadowfire: get one of sfan5's, blockmen's, fess's, or pilzadam's builds. 00:40 Shadowfire Oh... 00:40 Peacock mine has like, 15 crops lol 00:41 Shadowfire What one would be the best to work with the Linux version 00:41 VanessaE "Shadowfire: Windows 32-bit users can try [url=https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6727]BlockMen's builds[/url], or [url=https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1523]sfan5's builds[/url], or [url=https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547]PilzAdam's builds[/url]. Windows 64-bit users might prefer [url=https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6745]Fess's builds[/url]." 00:41 VanessaE shut 00:41 VanessaE shit, that went wrong :D 00:41 PilzAdam lol 00:41 VanessaE copy&paste :D 00:41 Peacock shut indeed 00:41 PilzAdam since when does IRC have BBCode support? 00:41 VanessaE note to self: bbcode doesn't work in IRC> 00:42 Peacock [b]you dont say[/b] 00:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 00:42 werwerwer depend on client i guess 00:42 VanessaE well you can copy&paste those links to your browser anyway. 00:42 PilzAdam [url=virus.com]https://forum.minetest.net[/url] 00:43 VanessaE heh 00:43 Peacock [url=barelylegal.com]https://forum.minetest.net[/url] 00:43 Peacock :P 00:44 Peacock proller, your dream's fulfilled 00:44 proller i'm win! 00:56 VanessaE screw it 00:56 * VanessaE installs zeg9's farming_plus 01:05 jojoa1997 seeya tomorrow maybe 01:08 Evergreen Sorry, if this is off-topic, but would it be worth spending 50~70$ on a mechanical keyboard? 01:09 VanessaE depends on how good is it 01:09 VanessaE it is* 01:10 VanessaE 70 bucks better buy you one hell of a good keyboard. 01:12 Evergreen I found one by monoprice with cherry mx blue switches that is 57 bucks, but one of my friends has a lot of IBM model m keyboards that he got from the local college salvage store 01:13 Evergreen I'm deciding whether I should buy one online, or ask him if I could have one 01:13 VanessaE buy one from him if they're any good 01:13 VanessaE offer him a few bucks 01:13 VanessaE (well, a couple dozen bucks :P ) 01:14 Evergreen Lol, I don't think he would ask that much for it 01:14 VanessaE offer it anyway 01:14 VanessaE a good-condition model M is worth a fair amount 01:14 Evergreen Yeah, I think that would be a good decision, thanks for your help 01:15 VanessaE if you like the clicky keys of course 01:15 Evergreen Oh yes, I love them 01:15 Evergreen That's why I want a mechanical keyboard 01:16 Evergreen Much better than the membrane keys on my laptop's keyboard, though they are too bad 01:17 Evergreen *aren't 01:18 PilzAdam bye 01:20 Evergreen Quassel, Y U NO WORK áƒš(à² ç›Šà² áƒš) 01:21 VanessaE oh G*d the mapgen stuff has GOT to be detached into a separate thread from the "rest" of the server. 01:25 Evergreen Speaking of keyboards, how would you like to spend 300 bucks on a Mad Catz S.T.R.I.K.E.7 keyboard? :P 01:26 LinuxGuy2020 Is there any way to get a fence post to sit down on top of a slab instead of floating over it? 01:27 Evergreen Not really. 01:27 LinuxGuy2020 k just wondered 01:28 VanessaE Evergreen: isn't the Optimus keyboard like $500 or something insane like that? 01:28 VanessaE "Optimus Maximus" that is 01:28 VanessaE or I should say, "wasn't". 01:29 Evergreen Never heard of it before, but that is rediculous 01:29 VanessaE the Popularis is about $1090 01:29 VanessaE O.O 01:29 VanessaE http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/popularis/ 01:30 Evergreen Razer keyboards are really good according to what other people say about them, but I'm not spending over 100$ on a keyboard 01:43 harrison type on mechanical switch or be a b**** 01:47 Evergreen Well, I'm off to bed, cya guys 01:47 AWTom I'm currently using http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3060 02:31 Mossmanikin Hi folks 02:31 VanessaE hi 02:32 Mossmanikin modding is all about compromises... 02:32 VanessaE it can be, yeah 02:34 Mossmanikin very exciting what you can do with [combine, but it has some disadvantages 02:35 VanessaE what are you using it for exactly? 02:35 VanessaE (I only briefly skimmed the code) 02:36 Mossmanikin to use up to nine textures for a node 02:36 VanessaE it's plantlike isn't it> 02:36 VanessaE ? 02:36 Mossmanikin yes, it is 02:36 VanessaE you're using those textures to make it look bigger than 1 node? 02:37 * Exio4 goes to sleep 02:38 Mossmanikin exactly (don't like bigger pixels by only using "visual_scale") 02:38 VanessaE all you have to do there is use a higher-resolution texture along with visual_scale 02:38 VanessaE you don't have to use ^[combine for that 02:39 VanessaE just set visual_scale to get the size right, then texture it in a higher-than-usual resolution 02:39 Mossmanikin would a 2048x2048 texture work in that case? (thinking of 512 TP) 02:39 VanessaE yup. 02:40 Mossmanikin very cool! 02:40 VanessaE though in the case of a 512px texture pack, I'd just use a 512px texture anyway - the stretch wouldn't really be visible on a resolution that high 02:40 Mossmanikin didn't expect that 02:40 VanessaE default junglegrass used to use that method - it was 16x24 px or some such, so that it looked "right" when stretched out 02:41 Mossmanikin yeah, thought about adding it again 02:42 Mossmanikin If that works, I'll change both ferns and grasses 02:43 VanessaE it should work 02:45 Mossmanikin have to experiment a bit with visual_scale then (find it a bit weird) 02:45 VanessaE remember to set it first, then texture the node after. otherwise you'll get all mixed up :) 02:48 Mossmanikin Yeah, I'll look in to it after some sleep :) 02:48 VanessaE ok 02:48 VanessaE *hopes it works* 02:49 Mossmanikin *hopes too, praying to all gods, the old and the new ones* 02:49 VanessaE haha 02:50 Mossmanikin :D 02:50 VanessaE done yet? ;) 02:52 Mossmanikin Think so, just sayin' somethin' like: "all o' ya, gimme the strenght and wisdom..." ;) 02:52 VanessaE lol 02:56 Mossmanikin k, going to bed, thx for tips, VanessaE, later 02:56 VanessaE sure thing 02:56 VanessaE good night 03:13 LinuxGuy2020 Ok here is a big build Im working on. I made a bridge from mountain to mountain at sea level. I want to put up dams on both sides of the bridge from the sea floor all the way up to surface level and turn the water below the bridge into a big canyon of open space. Whats the fastest way to clear out the water? Right now Im just sectioning parts off, filling with a material thats easy to tell that it doesnt belong there like glass, and f 03:16 VanessaE worldedit is the fastest wat 03:16 VanessaE way* 03:17 VanessaE select two corners, replace default:water_source with your desired wall node, then select the same two corners but one node closer to the center at each, replace your wall node with air. Bam, instant valley in the water. 03:17 LinuxGuy2020 ok thanks 03:18 LinuxGuy2020 world edit available for linux by chance? 03:20 VanessaE it's a normal MT mod 03:20 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572 03:20 LinuxGuy2020 thank you 03:21 VanessaE sure 03:21 VanessaE once you've used it a few times, it becomes very easy 03:23 LinuxGuy2020 cool beans 03:58 xiong Hey, how about a hand? I'm fixing a mod, I don't know anything about it. Text is getting clipped. Please, let me pastebin this thing. 04:00 xiong http://perl.nopaste.dk/p60822 04:01 xiong Line 7, with all that text... and it expands to more with those interpolated variables. The text wraps about halfway through. Can I extend the width of that box or, even better, insert a hard line break and get more space for the text overall? 04:02 xiong I should say, with the... soft text wrapping... I'm getting now; that the second line gets a little clipped at the bottom; there's not enough room allowed in either direction currently. 04:03 xiong This is the entire init.lua file; it's from the 'money' mod: http://perl.nopaste.dk/p60824 04:03 xiong In that full listing, the line is question is line 556. 04:04 xiong Would anyone like to see a screenshot of it? 04:16 xiong I can force a line break but then there's not quite enough vertical room to display the text. 04:19 kahrl I guess you could use two labels 04:22 xiong Thanks, kahrl. Please, help me out. I know I just sound like a helpless noob but Lua is not my language and I'm unfamiliar with the Minetest API. Obviously the digits there are defining positions, maybe limits; but trial and error is hard way to find out what they do. 04:22 xiong 0.256,4.5 04:23 xiong That doesn't really make sense to me; I'm expecting to see four numbers: top, left, bottom, right or top, left, witdth, height, in some order. 04:24 kahrl label have a position only, the size is hardcoded 04:24 kahrl +s 04:24 xiong Ah. Then one can only ever really expect to display a single line of text in a single label. 04:24 xiong ...because that was Decided. 04:24 kahrl yeah 04:24 kahrl I don't know why it is that way 04:24 xiong No matter why. 04:25 xiong So, futzing with line 5, there: 04:25 xiong size[8,10;] 04:26 kahrl that defines the size of the form 04:26 xiong ... that seems to be overall width, height of the whole form. 04:26 xiong So width first. So with: 04:26 xiong 0.256,4.5 04:26 xiong ... is that some weird way of specifying the left, top corner of the label? 04:27 xiong Because I can't see a sensible reason to say 0.256 -- I mean, that is a decimal literal, right? 04:27 kahrl the first is the X coordinate (0..12), the second is the Y coordinate (0..13) 04:28 xiong And it's a float, right? I can jam any old decimal in there - 0.2, 0.3. Senseless, I'd think, to go right to 0.256. That kind of number, you know, raises a flag for me. 04:28 kahrl actually not sure about the ranges, they are weird 04:28 xiong Why not 0.257, you know. 04:28 kahrl better ask somebody who uses this stuff more often 04:28 xiong Let's just try jiggling the 4.5 part, since who cares about the left edge, which is fine. 04:29 xiong I'll try a second label at 5.5 and futz from there. You're a lifesaver, kahrl; I'd never have guessed it was fixed at one line per label. 04:31 Hirato ohai guys, I've got a script here that builds minetest and several mods from git and installs both globally; the mod manager is no longer showing these, but the mods themselves still work just fine and can be enabled externally 04:32 xiong Well, that worked, kind of. 5.5 is much too far but I'll fiddle it. 04:34 thefamilygrog66 howdy 04:37 xiong Bagged it. Thanks again, kahrl. Big help. 04:38 thefamilygrog66 Could someone please help me with a programming question? 04:39 xiong My get tells me the author was just being cute with the 256. Or worse, some other guy was being cute with 256 and the author copied that blindly. 04:39 xiong Grog, probably not. But don't ask to ask, just ask. 04:39 xiong I certainly owe the room one, if I can. 04:39 thefamilygrog66 Okay, I'm a little confused about the < symbol in this: 04:39 thefamilygrog66 J=(J+1)*-(J<3) 04:40 xiong Exactly like that? 04:40 xiong No spaces anywhere? 04:40 thefamilygrog66 yes, it's not lua 04:40 xiong Okay, that's a good thing. 04:40 xiong Please go here: http://perl.nopaste.dk/ 04:40 thefamilygrog66 though I'm attempting to translate it into lua 04:41 xiong ... and pastebin about 100 lines around the expression in question, okay? 04:41 xiong I mean, any convenient chunk. 04:41 xiong What's the language? 04:42 thefamilygrog66 haha, it's BASIC 04:42 xiong Dear sweet holy mother of Thor. 04:42 xiong Pastebin, please. 04:43 thefamilygrog66 it wouldn't make sense any more than the line itself 04:43 thefamilygrog66 J is just an integer 04:43 xiong Humor me. 04:43 xiong There was a time when I knew BASIC. 04:43 * xiong covers head in shame 04:44 thefamilygrog66 It's my first language, back in 1981 04:44 xiong Come come, pastebin. I can tell a lot by looking at stuff. 04:45 thefamilygrog66 Seriously, I just need to know what the syntax of that line means - I'm translating from an image so I'd have to retype it all 04:46 thefamilygrog66 Say J = 1 04:46 xiong .... then... go to imgur.com and pastebin the image. Okay? 04:46 Menche what is "*-"? 04:46 xiong I have my way of working and it's heavily context-dependent. 04:46 thefamilygrog66 * = multiply 04:46 Menche oh, duh. times a negative number. 04:46 xiong Menche, I agree. I want to see it all, or at least more. 04:47 thefamilygrog66 - = negative, I'm guessing 04:47 Menche BASIC doesn't allow spaces in there? or were they just not used? 04:47 xiong Back when, Menche, memory was so tight you discarded everything possible. 04:47 thefamilygrog66 it allowed spaces, I believe 04:47 thefamilygrog66 ^ 04:47 thefamilygrog66 64K of RAM, baby 04:48 xiong I've seen TRS-80 code, hundreds of lines, and whitespace used like it was money. 04:48 xiong C'mon, Grog, gimme the picture. I'm easy. 04:48 kahrl what kind of BASIC? 04:48 Menche guess it wouldn't make sense for the < to mean "less than" 04:49 thefamilygrog66 I'm sure it does 04:49 Menche unless that was intended to be 1 or 0 based on whether it's true or false? 04:49 thefamilygrog66 ^ that's what I'm kinda guessing 04:49 xiong In a modern language, Menche, it would make perfect sense if the boolean test evaluated to a value that was automatically coerced into an integer or float. 04:49 kahrl some BASICs interpret false as 0 and true as -1 04:49 xiong Say, in Perl. It would be just fine. 04:49 kahrl that's why there might be a - 04:50 xiong It might be fine in BASIC, too. 04:50 thefamilygrog66 http://imgur.com/TW22Yij 04:50 * xiong looks 04:51 xiong Oh, that's the real old deal there. See how: IFJ... because you don't want to spend a byte on a space and after IF, it must be another token. 04:51 xiong Gotta love it. 04:53 thefamilygrog66 I'm guessing xiong that, since J can be a value between 0 and 3, that if it's 3 then it becomes 0 04:53 Menche lol, didn't see that if statement because it was compacted into the middle of a line 04:53 xiong Yah, I'm for the inequality test being coerced into a zero-or-minus-one. 04:53 thefamilygrog66 haha 04:53 thefamilygrog66 yeah, there's a bit crammed in there 04:53 xiong That code is worse than nasty. I can remember actually working through that crud... 30 years ago. 04:53 thefamilygrog66 likewise 04:54 thefamilygrog66 I made a game around it, actually 04:54 thefamilygrog66 back in 1982 04:54 thefamilygrog66 o_O 04:54 xiong Grog, set it on fire, please. There is no point translating that into Lua. Whatever it does, examine that from an abstract viewpoint, carefully burn the code and the machine on which it runs, and write from scratch. 04:54 * Menche sets the imgur server storing that file on fire 04:55 xiong By 'abstract' I mean, This code plays poker. I will write a poker-playing program. 04:55 thefamilygrog66 Hehe, don't tell VanessaE that I'm burning Commodore 64s... :) 04:55 Menche there's 3 HP-85's and a bunch of other old HP boxes lying around my house 04:56 xiong Actually, Grog, you should register on Imgur, submit that to the gallery, and watch it skyrocket to the front page, with many snarky comments. Challenge the readership to decode a single line correctly. 04:56 * xiong to the corner store 04:57 * thefamilygrog66 is ignoring the PEEKs and POKEs 04:58 thefamilygrog66 j = j + 1 04:58 xiong C64 was a real computer, sort of. That looks to me like Timex-Sinclair. You wind up the rubber band every 20 minutes. 04:58 thefamilygrog66 it's definitely C64 - I've recently run it on an emulator and it works perfectly 04:59 Menche what does it do? 04:59 thefamilygrog66 I made a game around it on a PET computer 04:59 thefamilygrog66 it's a random maze generator 05:17 Menche i keep timing out on connection to my server's public address 05:18 Menche the server sees that my client tries to connect; it's the one that says my client timed out 05:30 Guest5317 Good afternoon everyone, I had a quick question. I just created an account on the forum, and was wondering how I can upload a picture in a forum topic. 05:30 nore You need to upload it somewhere, and then post a link with an [img] tag 05:31 Guest5317 Would I put the link inbetween [img][/img] 05:31 nore yes 05:31 Guest5317 Such as [img]Linkhere[/img] 05:32 Guest5317 Awesome, any websites that are most common to work 05:32 nore yes 05:33 Guest5317 Would you reccomend one? 05:33 nore no, I don't post many images 05:33 Guest5317 Alright. Well thank you for the help. 05:33 xiong imgur.com 05:34 Guest5317 Thank you Xiong. 05:34 Guest5317 One more question if I may 05:34 Guest5317 How do I stop my name from switching to "Guest" 05:34 nore here? 05:34 Guest5317 Yes 05:35 nore I don't know... 05:35 Guest5317 Not a problem, I will figure it out in time. Thank you Nore, and Xiong for all the help tonight. 05:35 Guest5317 Goodnight 05:35 nore you're welcome 05:36 xiong Get XChat. 05:36 xiong There are scripts that simply ban anybody named Guest* -- and for good reason. 06:10 sfan5 hi everyone 06:10 sfan5 !op 06:10 sfan5 !deop 06:37 Cloud_ hello 06:37 Guest3853 Could someone Walk me through adding an image to a forim post 06:37 Guest3853 forum* 06:37 Guest3853 I can't seem to get it 06:37 Guest3853 I am useing imgur 06:38 [0gb_us] First, find the URI of the image. 06:39 [0gb_us] Post it here, you might have the wrong URI. 06:40 Guest3853 Well on imgur I have lots of different choices of links 06:40 [0gb_us] Post one of them. 06:40 [0gb_us] Here, I mean. 06:40 Guest3853 Hang on 06:40 Guest3853 I think I figured it out 06:40 [0gb_us] Okay, good. 06:41 * GNADev|zRokh drinks tea 06:41 Guest3853 yes, I got it 06:41 [0gb_us] Great! 06:41 Guest3853 I was useing the wrong link 06:41 Guest3853 Silly me 06:41 Guest3853 Well Take care 06:41 Guest3853 Sorry to be such a bother 06:41 * GNADev|zRokh made a tutorial on Java Programming ( a Hello World ) 06:41 GNADev|zRokh editing it 06:41 [0gb_us] Tea is nice, but my budget doesn't allow for it. 06:42 GNADev|zRokh O.o 06:42 GNADev|zRokh want me to send you some? (I was not trying to be sarcastic.) 06:43 GNADev|zRokh [0gb_us], want me to send you some tea? 06:43 [0gb_us] Nah, I'll be fine. shipping is a bother. Thanks for the offer though. 06:43 GNADev|zRokh ok :/ 06:44 * GNADev|zRokh sends [0gb_us] virtual tea because he doesnt want actual tea 06:45 * [0gb_us] thanks GNADev|zRokh, and begins boiling virtual water 06:45 GNADev|zRokh hey, do you play Zelda? 06:45 GNADev|zRokh i play Zelda - A Link to the past 06:45 GNADev|zRokh :P 06:45 GNADev|zRokh i made it to the princess, but not out the castle.... yet... 06:45 GNADev|zRokh :D 06:46 [0gb_us] I used to play Zelda a lot, but not much any more. A link to the Past was one of my two all-time favorites. 06:46 GNADev|zRokh :D 06:46 [0gb_us] (The other being an unofficial fan game.) 06:46 GNADev|zRokh whats your second? 06:47 GNADev|zRokh is it playable on the zSNES (SNES Emulator :P ) 06:47 [0gb_us] http://www.solarus-games.org/ 06:48 [0gb_us] No SNES emulators, but it runs directly on several operating systems. 06:48 GNADev|zRokh oh 06:48 GNADev|zRokh ok 06:48 [0gb_us] And it's free, so you can port it to other systems if you know how. 06:48 GNADev|zRokh is it 2d/3d? 06:48 [0gb_us] 2D. 06:49 [0gb_us] It's in A Link to the Past style. 06:49 GNADev|zRokh oooo :D 06:49 [0gb_us] It actually gets most of its graphics from A Link to the Past .... 06:49 GNADev|zRokh the fuck? the browser crashed twice in a row 06:49 [0gb_us] Which browser? 06:49 GNADev|zRokh when going to Mystery of Solarus DX 06:49 GNADev|zRokh idk,..... 06:49 GNADev|zRokh some linux browser... 06:50 GNADev|zRokh trying Midori 06:50 [0gb_us] It' sso hard to find a decent browser ... I'm still looking, myself. 06:50 [0gb_us] *so 06:50 [0gb_us] *It's so 06:51 * GNADev|zRokh spots 2 differences...1. heart isnt the same. 2. there is a new GUI 06:51 GNADev|zRokh :D 06:51 GNADev|zRokh hey, i dont get it, why does Zelda have pink hair there? 06:51 GNADev|zRokh doesnt he have blond hair? 06:52 [0gb_us] Um ... I think the graphics are bugged. It was blond when I played it. 06:52 GNADev|zRokh Zelda - Mystery of Sorarus XD , i spotted a creeper :D 06:52 [0gb_us] There's also a feather, which gets its graphics from Mario Bros. 3 as well. 06:53 [0gb_us] I saw the creeper in screenshots, but never made it far enough to see it in-game. 06:53 [0gb_us] I got stuck in XD, but XD is a joke anyway. 06:53 [0gb_us] DX is the fun one. 06:55 GNADev|zRokh ok... :D 06:55 GNADev|zRokh hey, do you know how Network Play works in the zSnes? 06:56 [0gb_us] I do not, sorry. 06:56 GNADev|zRokh what if we would play it together :D 06:56 [0gb_us] It's a single player game though ... 06:57 GNADev|zRokh oh..... :/ 06:57 [0gb_us] Isn't it? We are talking about A Link to the Past, right? 06:57 GNADev|zRokh yeah 06:57 GNADev|zRokh :/ 06:57 GNADev|zRokh smb? 06:58 [0gb_us] "Smb"? 06:58 GNADev|zRokh Super Mario Allstars :D 06:58 [0gb_us] That on is mostly two player. I'll see what I can find about network play. 06:59 GNADev|zRokh im watching it 06:59 GNADev|zRokh download zsnes 06:59 GNADev|zRokh do you use Linux? 06:59 [0gb_us] I do. 06:59 GNADev|zRokh great 06:59 GNADev|zRokh sudo apt-get install zsnes 06:59 GNADev|zRokh :P 07:00 [0gb_us] That won't work on all of them, only Debian-based. 07:00 GNADev|zRokh what linux distro do you use? 07:00 [0gb_us] I'm having a flashback ... I may have failed to install ZSNES in the past ... 07:00 [0gb_us] I use Xubuntu, which is Debian-based, but you didn't know that at the time. 07:00 GNADev|zRokh how do you get root? 07:01 GNADev|zRokh do you use sudo? 07:01 [0gb_us] sudo 07:01 GNADev|zRokh ok 07:01 GNADev|zRokh then do sudo apt-get install zsnes 07:01 GNADev|zRokh :P 07:01 [0gb_us] It doesn't work. ZSNES is for 32-bit only. At least, that's the explanation I was given. 07:02 GNADev|zRokh oh.... 07:02 GNADev|zRokh you have a 64 bit? 07:02 [0gb_us] Even zsnes:i386 doesn't work, and no one I talked to seems to know why. 07:02 [0gb_us] I do have 64-bit, yes. 07:02 GNADev|zRokh hmm.... 07:07 * GNADev|zRokh is watching the Zelda - Mystery of Solarus DX Trailer 07:07 GNADev|zRokh dat fly :D 07:07 [0gb_us] What fly? I don't remember any flies. 07:08 GNADev|zRokh there was a GIANT fly in the trailer 07:08 GNADev|zRokh i think its a bug... :d 07:08 GNADev|zRokh get it? 07:08 GNADev|zRokh xD 07:10 [0gb_us] I didn't see the fly. It must be in a spot I didn't find. 07:11 GNADev|zRokh it was like a boss... 07:11 GNADev|zRokh dat fly shooted GIANT snowballs and poop... 07:13 [0gb_us] Hmm ... I must have forgotten it. 07:17 GNADev|zRokh hi KikaRz, long time, eh? 07:17 KikaRz GNADev|zRokh, the last time i've entered, was at Fri Sep 13 23:27:49 2013 07:18 KikaRz Or, Yesterday. 07:18 GNADev|zRokh no, i mean we havent talked for a long time :D 07:18 GNADev|zRokh remember me? 07:18 GNADev|zRokh i'm Ragnar :D 07:18 KikaRz No. 07:18 GNADev|zRokh o.O 07:18 KikaRz RagnRagnRang 07:18 KikaRz '-' 07:18 KikaRz RangRawrRraw 07:19 KikaRz Rage. 07:19 GNADev|zRokh srsly? 07:19 GNADev|zRokh EqualsRagnar 07:19 GNADev|zRokh ? 07:21 GNADev|zRokh http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-17#i_2727397 07:22 GNADev|zRokh remember now? 07:22 GNADev|zRokh KikaRz? 07:22 KikaRz Hm? 07:23 GNADev|zRokh look at the irc log 07:23 GNADev|zRokh thats me :D 07:23 GNADev|zRokh and you :D 07:23 KikaRz .lol 07:23 KikaRz you know where is telek? 07:23 GNADev|zRokh remember 07:23 GNADev|zRokh no 07:23 KikaRz he suddently * Telek :No such nick/channel 07:24 sfan5 !seen telek 07:24 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen telek around. 07:24 GNADev|zRokh !seen KikaRz 07:24 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: kikarz was last seen at 2013-09-14 07:21:36 UTC on #minetest 07:24 GNADev|zRokh :D 07:24 GNADev|zRokh !seen anybody 07:24 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: Sorry, I haven't seen anybody around. 07:25 GNADev|zRokh wait, one more.... only one... 07:25 sfan5 wut https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110437#p110437 07:26 GNADev|zRokh !seen a gay guy 07:26 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: Sorry, I haven't seen a around. 07:26 GNADev|zRokh crap..... 07:26 GNADev|zRokh ok, im done... :) 07:27 GNADev|zRokh who knows whats haXe? 07:27 GNADev|zRokh i googled haxe and then i got hungry... 07:27 GNADev|zRokh !g haxe 07:27 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: http://haxe.org/ 07:27 GNADev|zRokh oh..... :/ 07:28 GNADev|zRokh i thought he would give a Google link...] 07:29 [0gb_us] !g google 07:29 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.google.com/ 07:29 [0gb_us] There you go. 07:30 [0gb_us] G'night. I've got to get up in seven hours, so I'll see you later. 07:34 KikaRz lol 07:34 KikaRz GNADev|zRokh, SPAAAAAM! 07:34 GNADev|zRokh dafuq did i do? 07:35 * GNADev|zRokh sues KikaRz 07:35 KikaRz Suddently my computer lagged !$"%!#"!$!%"#$#"!#"#! 07:35 KikaRz And Transformice disconnecte.d 07:35 GNADev|zRokh :D 07:35 GNADev|zRokh you play Transformice? 07:35 GNADev|zRokh i never got that game... 07:36 KikaRz It's free! 07:37 KikaRz W D to move, W S to Jump / Crouch, Mouse to click buttons from Menu / Tribe / Whispers 07:37 KikaRz and Shaman objects. 07:37 KikaRz W D A W D A W D A to walljump. 07:37 KikaRz That sequence 07:40 GNADev|zRokh i know its free but i mean i dont get the point of it... 07:41 GNADev|zRokh !g horses in the getto 07:42 GNADev|zRokh !g 07:42 GNADev|zRokh o.O 07:42 GNADev|zRokh "They came on a horse back to the getto..." 07:44 KikaRz Hi MinetestBot 07:44 KikaRz Why you ignoring? 07:45 GNADev|zRokh :D 07:47 GNADev|zRokh well bye, im going to play Zelda - Majora's Mask 08:58 xiong http://imgur.com/gallery/jR9kQv7 09:15 Evergreen Hello everyone! 09:16 Calinou hi 09:20 KikaRz Evergreen, why won't you say Hello World? 09:21 KikaRz TheLastProject, tor-sasl means a thing that I know. 09:21 TheLastProject Good for you? 09:21 TheLastProject o,o 09:25 KikaRz Simple Authentication and Security Layer 09:25 KikaRz '-' 10:50 * arsdragonfly finds it awkward to use three full stops as a ellipsis 10:51 arsdragonfly when I use a real chinese ellipsis for translating it shows a "trailing stop" message 11:58 Jordach hello Calinou 11:59 Calinou hi 11:59 Jordach Calinou, nearly supported gloopblocks for MC4MT8 12:11 Evergreen Stupid pain killers, I have already thrown up 3 times today 12:12 Calinou don't use them 12:12 Evergreen I have to, that's what the doctor told me to do :P 12:14 Evergreen It's either thhrowing up, or not being able to walk without crutches. 12:16 * Jordach would prefer painkillers 12:16 Jordach fun fact: i once forgot how to throw up 12:17 Calinou throw up? 12:20 sfan5 what just happend: I pull my mouse out of the USB port... surprise! kernel panic 12:20 Jordach Calinou, be sick (synonym) 12:20 * Jordach inserts and removes USB mouse all day in windows without an issue 12:28 Jordach yay! gloopblocks supported! :D 12:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:38 nore sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7205 12:39 * jin_xi sighs 13:49 sfan5 yay 13:49 * sfan5 can now play Minetest using his Wiimote 13:52 harrison fun fact: i once forgot how to throw up 13:53 harrison Personally i have not thrown up since 1970. 14:03 VanessaE good morning 14:07 pitriss morning VanessaE 14:08 pitriss please, is difference in technic between technic mod and technic game? 14:08 VanessaE technic game basically is technic mod + a bunch of other supporting mods like pipeworks, mesecons, etc. 14:08 VanessaE plus some additional code that I'm not too sure about at the moment 14:12 pitriss ahh okay.. I'm trying to figure out whats wrong on landrush server with technic mod.. all should be updated to latestm but still is not possible to craft constructors and deploers aren't working.. 14:12 VanessaE odd 14:13 VanessaE for deployers, is your copy of pipeworks up-to-date? 14:13 VanessaE not sure about the constructors 14:14 pitriss vanessa i will ask brandon.. I'm not admin.. I'm just trying to find whats can be wrong by testing on sp..:D 14:14 VanessaE what's the recipe for constructors? 14:14 VanessaE I'll check if it works on my server. 14:15 pitriss one nodebreaker and one deployer 14:16 VanessaE yep, works. 14:19 VanessaE interesting. 14:20 VanessaE deployer opens but doesn't place the node 14:22 VanessaE nore: *poke* 14:30 nore VanessaE, what? 14:31 VanessaE nore: aren't the deployers your department? :) 14:31 nore they were some time ago, but Temperest modified them a lot since then 14:31 VanessaE true heh 14:31 VanessaE ok, I'll bug him :) 14:31 nore but it depends on Minetest version too 14:31 VanessaE I don't understand half the code anymore :P 14:32 nore ok, I am going to look in the code 14:33 VanessaE no rush. 14:34 sfan5 !server ping:least 14:34 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetestâ¤Ru | minetest.ru | Clients: 2/100, 3 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.105 14:34 nore is the item in the deployer consumed? 14:34 sfan5 !server ping:least I.2 14:34 MinetestBot sfan5: No results 14:34 VanessaE nore: nope, it doesn't appear to be 14:34 sfan5 !server ping:least i:2 14:34 MinetestBot TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 227, in server) 14:34 VanessaE lemme re-check 14:34 sfan5 derp 14:35 sfan5 !server ping:least i:1 14:35 MinetestBot TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 227, in server) 14:36 VanessaE damn it I hate that inventory buig 14:36 VanessaE bug* 14:37 nore and could you try to add print(stack:get_name()) line 118? 14:37 sfan5 !server players:most 14:37 MinetestBot sfan5: Hunger Games Server | 79.235.46.162:30002 | Clients: 10/25, 11 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.121 14:37 sfan5 yay 14:38 VanessaE too tired to mess with the code, but the item is definitely not consumed. 14:38 nore but what does that do? 14:38 VanessaE hunger games? *oy* 14:38 nore is there any item name printed? 14:39 VanessaE lemme check. 14:40 VanessaE hunger games? *oy* 14:40 VanessaE oops 14:43 VanessaE nore: yes, it does print the correct node name,. 14:43 VanessaE wait, wtf? 14:43 VanessaE it works in singleplayer? 14:43 pitriss VanessaE: sorry for dropout.. my bouncer hosting lost connection for while 14:44 nore do you have any protection mod installed? 14:44 VanessaE pitriss: it's ok, nore and I are looking into it now. 14:44 pitriss VanessaE: ohh great.. 14:44 VanessaE nore: on the server, yes. in singleplayer yes also, but it of course is not actually being used there. 14:44 VanessaE nore, lemme try again outside an owned area. 14:44 nore VanessaE, the player named "deployer" needs to have access to the area 14:45 VanessaE nore: sure enough, it works fine outside an owned area. 14:46 VanessaE I think that will need to be first. 14:46 VanessaE fixed* 14:46 VanessaE whoa 14:46 nore then it is needed to add an owner to the deployer, and the owner will need to have permission 14:46 VanessaE 10:48:49: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...test/games/vanessae_game/mods/pipeworks/node_breaker.lua:190: attempt to call method 'is_player' (a nil value) 14:46 VanessaE (I placed a node breaker via a deployer) 14:47 ShadowNinja So if I join the server with the nick "deployer" what can I do? 14:47 VanessaE (happened to be the stack I had in my hand when I fed the chest in the test circuit) 14:47 PilzAdam sfan5, this is not a bot test channel 14:47 sfan5 PilzAdam: I was not testing the bot I just found a bug 14:47 nore ShadowNinja, I think I will rename it to deployer: 14:47 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Also happens when deploying deployers. 14:48 VanessaE requiring that a specific username be granted access to an owned area is A Bad Ideaâ„¢ 14:49 nore VanessaE, then you could add an owner to the deployer 14:49 VanessaE *confused* why does it need to have an owner at all? 14:49 ShadowNinja nore: No, use the placer name or no name at all. 14:49 VanessaE what ShadowNinja said. 14:49 ShadowNinja nore: See my digging code for the quarry. 14:50 nore and to fix the deployer bug, you need to add something between lines 120 and 122 14:51 nore which should be "is_player = function() return true end" 14:51 nore and all the other player methods too 14:54 nore perhaps even better to call itemdef.on_place too 14:56 ShadowNinja nore: Better yet: Don't make a fake player. 14:57 nore but how do I call tool actions then? 14:57 ShadowNinja Surely there if a callback similar to node_dig() for placing. 14:57 nore I need a tool to do its effect 14:57 nore you mean minetest.node_dig? 14:58 nore there is one, and it is minetest.item_place 14:58 nore and it needs a player as one of its arguments 14:58 ShadowNinja nore: Then check if it is a tool and run the tool use function if it is, otherwise use the digging function. And yes^. 14:58 ShadowNinja Hmmm. 14:59 nore I don't remember what tools had an effect on rightclick, do you? 15:00 VanessaE I'm confused. it's a deployer. shouldn't it just place the item/node and be done with it? 15:00 VanessaE or is this for the other issue? 15:00 nore both... 15:01 ShadowNinja VanessaE: No, you have to make sure that the node in front is buildable_to/air and run on_place callbacks and the like. 15:01 VanessaE hrm, true 15:02 nore the deployer should be able to place items or to run the effect of an item on rightclick 15:02 nore i.e., a bucket 15:03 ShadowNinja The minetest.item_place* family of functons should allow a nil placer. 15:06 nore make a pull request for it then 15:09 Evergreen Two test belnder renders: http://i.imgur.com/FoFN1Yz.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/FPWyz4g.png 15:09 Evergreen *blender 15:10 VanessaE Evergreen: nice 15:10 Evergreen Thanks 15:13 ShadowNinja nore: I coded it, but anyafter_place_nodes that don't support this will cause a crash unless I generate a fake placer... 15:15 nore and will it support facedir when placer is nil? 15:17 ShadowNinja nore: minetest.place_node does what you want. Although I can't find it in builtin... 15:17 nore and does it call tools too? 15:18 ShadowNinja Hmmm, probably not, but I can't check it as I can't find it. 15:37 * Peacock makes coffee 15:37 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Peacock 15:38 Peacock now there's hair in the coffee grinds :/ 15:39 ShadowNinja :-/ This can't really work because of after_place_node/on_place/on_placenode callbacks. 15:39 Peacock what abut them? 15:45 ShadowNinja Peacock: They expect a non-nil placer. 15:46 Peacock im guessing its a non player doing the place node? 15:56 ShadowNinja Peacock: Yes, a deployer. 15:57 Peacock i might be a little late to the convo, but why cant you use add_node? 15:59 ShadowNinja Vanessa|E: No, you have to make sure that the node in front is buildable_to/air and run on_place callbacks and the like. 16:00 Peacock and you cant run on_place without a user string? 16:03 Peacock well, you might try storing the deployer's owner in it's meta, and passing that to on_place 16:18 rubenwardy Hi all 16:20 Peacock howdy 16:22 Aggies hello everyone 16:51 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 16:52 thefamilygrog66 Is there a way to make random numbers more umm... random? 16:52 Peacock minetest already sets randomseed 16:53 thefamilygrog66 what does that mean exactly? 16:53 Peacock not sure how the seed works :/ 16:53 thefamilygrog66 haha, okay 16:54 Peacock http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16258845/finding-a-random-number-in-lua 16:54 thefamilygrog66 I translated a random maze generator from BASIC; however, the generated maze looks exactly the same each time 16:55 Peacock oh youre not using lua's random number gen :/ 16:55 thefamilygrog66 yes I am, Peacock 16:56 Peacock are you running on windows? 16:56 thefamilygrog66 j = math.random(4) 16:56 thefamilygrog66 yes 16:56 thefamilygrog66 well, I'm not sure, since I'm just running on the Lua: demo page 16:56 Peacock ah well the stackoverflow link explains why on windows you get the same number each time 16:57 thefamilygrog66 I'm testing the code here: http://www.lua.org/cgi-bin/demo 16:57 Peacock init math.randomseed with os.time 16:57 rubenwardy The only true random is quantum random 16:57 Peacock try this math.randomseed( os.time() ) 16:57 thefamilygrog66 math.randomseed(os.time()) 16:57 thefamilygrog66 jinx 16:57 Peacock lol 16:58 thefamilygrog66 haha, so if I put that line right before j = math.random(4), it should mix it up a bit 16:58 Peacock should 16:58 Peacock the seed would be different every time 16:58 thefamilygrog66 I'll give it a go - thanks 16:58 Peacock np lemme know if it dont work 17:00 thefamilygrog66 oops, should put that line before the loop starts 17:00 Peacock well you could stick at the top 17:01 thefamilygrog66 stop reading my mind, Peacock! 17:01 thefamilygrog66 it works beautifully 17:01 Peacock my mind to your mind, my thoughts to your thoughts.... mind meld complete 17:01 Peacock :P 17:01 thefamilygrog66 damn you, Spock! 17:02 Peacock Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn! 17:02 thefamilygrog66 hahaha 17:02 thefamilygrog66 I hope nobody's already made a hedge maze mod... 17:02 Peacock i dont remember one 17:02 Peacock ive seen alot of lsystem type stuff but thats it 17:05 thefamilygrog66 Back in 1982, I copied some BASIC code from Compute magazine on a PET computer, to generate a random maze. Found the code recently, so I decided to convert it to lua to see if I could make a hedge maze for minetest. 17:05 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn would make for a cool game 17:05 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn put random treasures/mobs at some of the dead-ends and chambers 17:06 thefamilygrog66 big haired David Bowie mobs 17:06 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn or this guy: 17:06 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn http://www.i-mockery.com/bad-albums/gunther/pleasureman-cover.jpg 17:07 thefamilygrog66 that's brutal, Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn 17:07 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn the swedes have alot to answer for XD 17:09 thefamilygrog66 Anyway, I've finally got the generator working properly, to create an array and print it out in 2D - just need to make it create nodes in 3D within minetest. I think it'll work a lot better in a flat world... o_O 17:10 thefamilygrog66 If I use leaves for the node, do they still disappear (without a tree)? 17:11 sfan5 yes 17:11 sfan5 IIRC 17:11 thefamilygrog66 Cactus, it is then. 17:11 thefamilygrog66 or green wool, I suppose 17:12 thefamilygrog66 Cloud would prevent cheating though. 17:14 rubenwardy nore, they dont (leaves) 17:14 rubenwardy *no# 17:14 rubenwardy As long as you define a certain meta 17:14 nore ... 17:14 rubenwardy Auto fill, sorry 17:16 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn lovely, the dumb fat cow from upstairs just emptied a bucket of bleach over her balcony and now i have to clean all my windows 17:17 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L254 17:17 rubenwardy Is param2 variable? 17:18 rubenwardy I think so 17:18 rubenwardy try minetest.set_node(pos,{name="default:leaves",param2=1}) 17:25 thefamilygrog66 thanks, rubenwardy 17:26 rubenwardy Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn: where are you from? 17:26 rubenwardy (country) 17:26 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn QC, canada 17:29 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn y? 17:29 thefamilygrog66 all these damned Canucks on here... 17:29 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn lol 17:29 thefamilygrog66 haha 17:30 * thefamilygrog66 lives in Kingston, ON (if you didn't already know that) 17:30 rubenwardy England! 17:30 rubenwardy or that place with all the tea and posh people, as it is more popularly known 17:30 thefamilygrog66 you're in England rubenwardy? 17:30 rubenwardy hmmm 17:31 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn in the eurodebt zone? 17:31 rubenwardy lol 17:31 thefamilygrog66 hanging with posh spice 17:31 rubenwardy We dont have the euro, so we are no more effected than us dollar, at least I think so 17:31 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn yeah thank god you held on to your own money 17:33 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn i might be wrong, but wasnt thatcher against joining the EU? 17:35 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn ah according to wiki she was pro-EC and anti EU 17:37 thefamilygrog66 also anti-workers 17:39 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn well heck, after Mulroney brought in NAFTA, his party was reduced to 2 seats (and lost official party status lol) 17:42 thefamilygrog66 served him right, too 17:42 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn yeah, it pretty much killed Ontario and Qc manufacturing 17:43 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn while the west gets by on oil and timber 17:44 rubenwardy PilzAdam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110493#p110493 17:44 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn whats the difference between after_destruct and on_destruct? 17:44 thefamilygrog66 we got walmarts though! yay 17:44 rubenwardy on and after 17:44 rubenwardy :P 17:44 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn thats it? 17:44 rubenwardy See the function params that you get 17:45 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn well, walmarts replaced those god awful ancient wilco stores lol 17:45 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn with the 70's decoration 17:45 thefamilygrog66 woolco, yes 17:45 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn woolco yeah 17:45 thefamilygrog66 k-mart 17:45 thefamilygrog66 zellers 17:45 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn wouldn't really matter these days anyhow, its all the same stuff from china 17:46 thefamilygrog66 do you remember consumers distributing, Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn? 17:46 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn one of the worst concepts in shopping yeah 17:47 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn instead of actually being able to look at the products (and get a box that hasn't been opened/returned) you had to rifle through a catalogue, which were often dirty/torn/missing pages 17:47 thefamilygrog66 I used to love the catalogues though, but yeah, so disappointing to go to the branch, fill out the little slip, and then be informed that it was out of stock 17:47 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn lol 17:47 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn no wonder they went out of business 17:48 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn though when i ran a UPS store we were forced to have the sears catalogue service 17:48 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn which was really stupid since my store was one intersection away from... Sears! lol 17:48 thefamilygrog66 small town Sears outlets, nice 17:48 thefamilygrog66 weird 17:48 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn never ever ever buy a UPS franchise 17:49 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn you make no actual money off shipping, your only profit is PO boxes (paid once a year) and packaging lol 17:49 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn which most people dont buy because they charge an arm and a leg for packaging 17:51 rubenwardy Can someone recommend a free web server? 17:51 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn you mean a service? (obviously not a physical box lol) 17:51 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn http://www.freehostia.com/ 17:52 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn one of the rare ones that offer php and db's 17:52 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn well, 1 mysql db 17:52 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn but still, better than nothing 17:54 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn must be something wrong with my after_destruct(), got: 17:54 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn ServerError: LuaError: error: (null) 17:59 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn ahah, scope problem lol 18:02 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn sweet, got my spigots working in 6d http://s16.postimg.org/gvfz2t81x/screenshot_497215597.png 18:10 Evergreen Someone needs to actually make fluid storage tanks in pipeworks functional 18:12 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn mine do work but by now they're completely different mods 18:13 LinuxGuy2020 Does the minetest downloads for Ubuntu/Mint work on Debian do you guys kniw? 18:13 LinuxGuy2020 know* 18:14 Calinou don't install ubuntu packages on debian 18:14 LinuxGuy2020 In built from source on Debian 32bit but it wont run on 64bit machine in other room. Might just reinstall 32bit on it. 18:15 LinuxGuy2020 Just thought I would check. 18:18 Calinou lol, 32 bit 18:34 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn weird, shouldn't on_construct be after_construct? since on_destruct is called before, and after_destruct + on_construct are called after? 18:55 sfan5 !c 2^4 18:55 MinetestBot 16 18:55 sfan5 !c 2^5 18:55 MinetestBot 32 18:57 werwerwer !c 1/0 18:57 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 18:57 werwerwer oh come on 18:57 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-06#i_3241520 19:03 Smelly_ There should be an IRC where you complain about all the things wrong with Minetest lol 19:03 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn i thought that was here :P 19:05 Smelly_ lol 19:05 Smelly_ White 19:05 Smelly_ Perfect okay 19:06 Smelly_ This is the main IRC for minetest 19:06 Smelly_ I have a private one as well 19:06 Smelly_ Would you meet me in the private one 19:06 Smelly_ I dont like spaming IRC 19:07 Smelly_ Whitemau5 19:11 Whitemau5 sorry my mom is making me do a bunch of chores -_- 19:11 Smelly_ No problem 19:11 Smelly_ Join the private IRC 19:11 Smelly_ #Vazon 19:11 Whitemau5 how? lol 19:11 Smelly_ Same way as this 19:11 Smelly_ but 19:11 Smelly_ replace #minetest 19:12 Whitemau5 ?? lol you lost me 19:12 Smelly_ Go back to the screen where you made your name 19:12 Smelly_ take out the word minetest 19:12 Whitemau5 ok my mom is making me do chores 19:12 sfan5 wat 19:12 Smelly_ and replace with #Vazon 19:12 Whitemau5 brb if i can -_- 19:12 sfan5 !c 2^2 19:12 MinetestBot 4 19:12 Smelly_ Oh god 19:12 Smelly_ the bots 19:12 Smelly_ THE BOTS 19:19 Whitemau5 lol ok so i have to sweep and mop the floor (its not that big) and then i will be back 19:19 Smelly_ k 19:20 Whitemau5 ok so imma go to #Vazon 19:20 Whitemau5 lol how do i exit? 19:24 Evergreen I have a request, can anyone make me a pebble nodebox? 19:24 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn pebble? 19:24 Evergreen Small stone 19:26 Calinou many small stones or just one? 19:26 Calinou it'd be easy if it was just one :P 19:26 Evergreen Just one 19:27 Evergreen Not a square one, a slightly realistic one 19:56 thefamilygrog66 success! 19:56 thefamilygrog66 My new mod works, awesome. 19:57 LinuxGuy2020 Can 0.4.7 server be connected to and played with older version clients. 19:58 thefamilygrog66 Check it out - my new hedge maze mod: 19:58 thefamilygrog66 LinuxGuy2020, I connect to one with 0.4.4 19:58 LinuxGuy2020 sweet 19:58 LinuxGuy2020 think debian repos has 0.3 Ill have to try it. 19:58 thefamilygrog66 Hedge maze block, placed on the ground: 19:58 thefamilygrog66 http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/133/4sb.png 19:58 thefamilygrog66 Then, after right-clicking on it: 19:58 thefamilygrog66 http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7134/us7o.png 19:59 thefamilygrog66 0.3 won't work 20:02 OldCoder Back 20:04 Evergreen Once again, can anyone make a pebble nodebox for me? 20:06 rythem hey can some one tell me how to install a texture pack. i cant find the textures on the .minetest folder 20:06 rythem ubuntu 13.04 20:06 Calinou rythem: you download the pack, put it in ~/.minetest/textures/all 20:07 Calinou (the files should be direclty inside that directory) 20:07 LinuxGuy2020 Is there a 64bit debian package available somewhere? I really dont feel like compiling it seperately. I will build later if I have to. 20:07 Evergreen Calinou: the textures don't go in "all" anymore 20:07 LinuxGuy2020 Thought I remeber it being on someones server or something before. 20:07 Calinou Evergreen: yeah, not in latest git 20:07 Calinou but they still do on 0.4.7 20:08 Calinou LinuxGuy2020: there is none, apart from the ones in the repos 20:08 rythem well i cant locate the texture folder in the .minetest folder.... 20:08 Calinou which can be outdated 20:08 Calinou rythem: creat eit 20:08 Calinou create it 20:08 OldCoder Hey 20:08 * OldCoder will work on updating mods to 0.4.7 compatible today 20:08 Calinou hi OldCoder :) 20:09 OldCoder o/ 20:09 rythem okay im gonna text it 20:09 rythem nope is there a config i would have to change 20:09 OldCoder I understand LevelDB is now in main branch. Is this true and what should I git clone? 20:09 Calinou IIRC you can choose map backend now 20:10 Calinou leveldb isn't default IIRC 20:11 rythem is there a a txt to add to the config file to add the texture... its not working for me 20:16 OldCoder Calinou, that is usual... but question is... what should I git clone? 20:16 Calinou don't know 20:16 OldCoder sfan5 branch is no longer needed for my purposes? 20:16 sfan5 nope 20:16 sfan5 leveldb is merged into upstream 20:16 OldCoder All right; sfan5 what should I git clone then? 20:17 sfan5 git://github.com/minetest/minetest 20:17 sfan5 you can also use s/git/https/ if you want 20:17 sfan5 *the same url with s/git/https/ 20:17 OldCoder Thank you! 20:20 sfan5 OldCoder: be prepared to install libleveldb1 and libleveldb-dev with your package manger, the leveldb source is no longer in the minetest repo 20:21 OldCoder Fine 20:21 OldCoder Thanks for this as well 20:21 sfan5 no problem :P 20:21 * OldCoder maintains a distro and is accustomed to building libraries 20:21 * OldCoder will bbs 20:27 LinuxGuy2020 What folder do I copy mod folders to? 20:32 Edelwin hi 20:43 LinuxGuy2020 Do minetest mods need to be coppied to the local server and clients also? I copied them to the .minetest/mods folder on the server only and I dont see any new items in the inventory in creative mode. Will they show up there if they are installed correctly? 20:46 Edelwin :D 20:47 sfan5 how to not ask questions: join, ask a question, wait 1 min, leave 20:47 Edelwin yep' 20:50 sfan5 good night everyone 20:53 Edelwin nite' 21:36 Evergreen Hi theTroy 21:36 Evergreen Taoki: 21:36 Evergreen *Taoki 21:43 chlue Hello the maxlag value in /status. Do I get it correctly that if the value is bigger than 1 then the server is overloaded and running at a speed of about 1/value 21:47 PilzAdam chlue, no, the value is in seconds 21:48 PilzAdam its the time spend to run Lua code 21:48 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn weird, when i try to WE in nodes with an on_construct, i get a lua:null crash lol 21:48 chlue ok, but abm's have a base cycle of 1s so it seem to fit and furnaces are awfully slow here with a reported value of 7 21:58 chlue PiltzAdam, or in other words, if an abm wants to called every second and the maxlag value is n with n>1 will the abm be called roughly every n seconds then? 22:03 Cloud_ is Sfan5 avaliable? 22:03 Guest11433 sfan5 * 22:04 Guest11433 or PilzAdam 22:04 Guest11433 One of the two I needed to speak to 22:04 PilzAdam yes? 22:04 Guest11433 Can I talk to privately somehow? 22:05 Guest11433 It would take a second, i just don't want to broadcast to whole IRC 22:05 PilzAdam /query PilzAdam 22:10 AWTom Is there a full list of hotkeys/shortcuts somewhere? 22:10 PilzAdam AWTom, minetest.conf.example 22:12 Whitemau5 ummm hello? 22:12 PilzAdam hi 22:12 Whitemau5 hi 22:12 Whitemau5 ive seen your name on the forum 22:12 PilzAdam no way 22:12 Whitemau5 -_- 22:13 AWTom is there a way to complete multiple crafting recipes at once? 22:13 PilzAdam AWTom, in a mod? 22:14 AWTom uh, just the default mod? 22:14 PilzAdam in-game you can use middleclick to craft 10 items at once 22:14 AWTom hm 22:15 AWTom and there's no capability like left-click drag or right-click drag 22:16 arsdragonfly And no craft-them-all by pressing shift either 22:16 harrison http://youtu.be/_TKY_TYnPms 22:16 harrison fossil avatars of shelly duvall 22:17 AWTom what does that mean? 22:17 AWTom and what does the video mean? 22:21 harrison it is not self explanatory enough? 22:22 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn what about greta van susteren? 22:23 PilzAdam harrison, it might be a good idea to put the text into the description, since its sometimes hard to understand that voice (especially as a not-native speaker of English) 22:25 AWTom I actually didn't realize that the video had audio. Anyways, why are lighting updates so slow? 22:46 AWTom If you drag item X onto item Y in the hotbar, and there are no copies of Y in the hotbar, it puts Y on the cursor. If there are copies of Y in the hotbar, it instead swaps the positions of X and Y and puts the leftmost copy of Y on the cursor. 23:04 AWTom How do I make Minetest load more chunks? 23:08 Evergreen I think you put this in your minetest.conf: max_block_generate_distance = put_distance_here 23:09 AWTom thanks 23:09 AWTom Why does the furnace GUI always refresh? 23:11 chlue I think there are some 'hackish' methods to toggle the texture (at least in the technic-mod) and as a side effect the inventory is reloaded whenever the texture is changed. 23:11 AWTom I'm currently using the default mod 23:11 proller PilzAdam bed is bad 23:12 proller now write Good Night when i was alone on server 23:12 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn pilzadam is bad in bed? i wouldnt know :P 23:12 proller and very far from bed 23:32 AWTom upside-down torches make a lot of sense... 23:33 Cloud_ Is their a mod on I can speak to? 23:33 AWTom Do items on the ground disappear? 23:35 Guest52832 When possible I would like to talk to a Moderator asap. 23:36 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn doubt many are around on a saturday night :P 23:39 Exio4 http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Truth-of-the-Matter.aspx 23:39 Exio4 hahahaha 23:44 AWTom it's really hard to run out of coal 23:45 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn you could make it rarer 23:46 NekoGloop KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN! 23:47 Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn yours, is a superior intellect 23:48 Exio4 kahrl: i now know what to do in the future! http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Speedup-Loop.aspx 23:49 * NekoGloop sits on Kaaaaaaaaaaaahn's head 23:49 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan fixed the spelling lol 23:50 AWTom_ tried resizing a terminal again... 23:55 NekoGloop Oh, hey, look, it's [0gb_us], the killjoy 23:55 Evergreen Hi [0gb_us] 23:55 [0gb_us] I kill your joy? I'm sorry, I don't mean to. 23:55 [0gb_us] Hello, Evergreen! 23:55 * Khaaaaaaaaaaaan annihilates joy 23:57 kahrl hehe Exio4, that's the best pattern in software engineering