Time Nick Message 00:05 hoodedice ... 00:06 hoodedice I'll just go then 00:19 Inocudom This chat room seems to be more void than it used to be. Everything does. 00:21 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.parse_json, engine.parse_json 1ecf51a13f 2013-09-01T17:20:08-07:00 http://git.io/UpXKig 00:21 Inocudom What does that do? 00:23 kahrl parse json 00:24 Somedude I guess we will soon have java-based mods? 00:47 khonkhortisan When I set ; as toggle fly, it gets set as - 00:50 jojoa1997 Hello! 00:55 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, try setting it manually in minetest.conf 00:56 PilzAdam I have set tab as inventory, that is not possible in the GUI 00:59 khonkhortisan it works fine in the conf, it's probably a similar bug as the one that made ;,.p terminate the world list 01:00 khonkhortisan s/as/to 01:23 Cells Quick question what is the command for time speed again 01:28 Cells hello? 01:29 PilzAdam bye 01:33 khonkhortisan What is it where the side swaps the connections between the two outputs and the two inputs? 02:10 jojoa1997 brb 02:12 jojoa1997 back 02:23 jojoa1997 bye 03:01 mnb_ how do i make a nether portal? 03:05 notVanessaE If only I knew 03:05 VanessaE who the..? 03:05 VanessaE all right neko. 03:05 notVanessaE Who the..? 03:05 notVanessaE Who are YOU! 03:06 mnb_ i'm using pilz nether mod 03:06 mnb_ can't figure out how to make it 03:07 VanessaE looks to be a 4x5 ring of obsidian 03:08 mnb_ then what? 03:08 VanessaE right click on it with a mese crystal in your hand 03:08 VanessaE I guess 03:08 notVanessaE Ya that's it 03:08 notVanessaE I guess 03:09 notVanessaE "You can go into the nether by either digging deep down or build a obsidian portal as seen in the screenshots above. To activate the portal, rightclick it with a mese crystal fragment." 03:09 notVanessaE mnb_ Which version of minetest are you running? 03:09 VanessaE ok either landmine or neko or hoodedice, either way lose the nick or lose your access to this channel. 03:09 notVanessaE You got me. 03:09 mnb_ 0.4.6 03:09 VanessaE ok. 03:09 hoodedice *Ta Da* 03:09 mnb_ i mean 7 03:10 hoodedice ok. 03:11 hoodedice mnb_ Is this a new world in which it is not working? 03:11 hoodedice Or did you activate the mod on an old world? 03:14 mnb_ not sure what u mean 03:14 mnb_ it works though 03:14 mnb_ 4x5 and hit it with a mese fragment 03:15 mnb_ thx for the advice 03:15 hoodedice *Yawn* RTAOP next time 03:16 hoodedice (Read The Awesome Opening Post) 03:27 nothoodedice hello 03:28 VanessaE heh 03:34 hoodedice lol 03:35 hoodedice I missed that XD 03:40 khonkhortisan a cage of insulated crossovers has a small amount of shadow 03:54 VanessaE http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/09/01/2224243/facebook-to-overhaul-data-use-policy 03:54 VanessaE oh I do NOT like this 03:58 hoodedice Nothing new here 03:58 hoodedice Move on 03:59 VanessaE it's the "we'll use your likeness, name, etc without compensation" part I object to. 04:00 VanessaE as in, use them in an ad. 04:00 VanessaE that's not just no, that's "FUCK NO". 04:18 aldobr hi all 04:19 VanessaE hi 04:20 aldobr i need a good place to host my mods... 04:20 aldobr anybody know of some ? 04:20 VanessaE github. 04:20 hoodedice github 04:20 hoodedice google drive 04:22 aldobr hm i need something like tinypic but for file 04:22 VanessaE dropbox then 04:22 hoodedice google drive 04:23 khonkhortisan github. My update-all-mods-and-games-and-minetest script uses git. 04:23 khonkhortisan -and-texture-packs 04:23 aldobr i will use dropbox, thank 04:34 hoodedice Pardon my ignorance 04:34 hoodedice But what exactly does your mod do? 04:35 aldobr two mods 04:35 aldobr one is a gcode interpreter 04:35 aldobr other is a sproxel plugin to export nodebox files from that voxel editor 04:36 hoodedice so what does the gcode thingy do? 04:36 aldobr it parses a gcode file and prints it into the current world 04:36 aldobr using reprap logic 04:37 aldobr kinda virtual reprap 04:37 hoodedice So it makes nodes 04:37 hoodedice from this 3d printer thingy's files 04:37 hoodedice cool 04:38 hoodedice The other thing, what does that do? 04:38 aldobr allow one to create nodeboxes using a voxel editor 04:39 aldobr wysiwyg 04:39 hoodedice I dont get it 04:39 hoodedice Texture or shape of the node? 04:39 aldobr shape and texture 04:39 aldobr but texture is buggy yet 04:39 hoodedice (AND) 04:39 hoodedice woah 04:39 hoodedice waitasec 04:39 aldobr it generates init.lua and pictures as textures 04:40 hoodedice How is it different from this :https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840 04:40 aldobr it generates textures from the color of the voxels 04:40 aldobr its completely different 04:40 hoodedice ? 04:40 aldobr cant explain, you have to look and see 04:40 hoodedice I think I'll test both 04:41 hoodedice Yeah 04:41 aldobr this editor follow another logic 04:41 aldobr in sproxel everything is divided by same volume voxels 04:41 aldobr its kind of pixel art, but using voxels 04:42 hoodedice oh 04:42 hoodedice Saw the blog 04:42 hoodedice I get it all now 04:42 aldobr it generates the textures from the colours of each voxel projected into the sides 04:42 aldobr voxels have no texture but own color 04:42 aldobr etc 04:43 hoodedice hmm 04:43 hoodedice aldobr 04:44 hoodedice For the GCode thingy 04:44 hoodedice the model will come out as an exact replica of the thing, right? 04:44 aldobr not exact 04:44 hoodedice ? 04:44 aldobr but close if the resolution is ok 04:44 hoodedice ok 04:44 aldobr there are problems like alias 04:44 hoodedice Neat work dude 04:44 aldobr etc 04:45 aldobr the version i posted works on 0.4.7 04:45 hoodedice (Though a bit complicated =P) 04:45 aldobr i have another version where jinx_ji helped me to add voxelmanip 04:45 hoodedice voxelmanip is 0.4.8 04:45 hoodedice =/ 04:45 aldobr works waaaay faster 04:46 hoodedice So yeah. Wait till then to release that 04:48 aldobr i want the coral reef mod :/ 04:48 [0gb_us] I've been gone a while, so I'm out of the loop. Will 0.4.8 use mapgen v7, or is it still being fixed up? 04:49 hoodedice 90% might use 04:49 hoodedice PilzAdam got it nice, I've heard 04:51 [0gb_us] Nice. I saw some of what he did a while back, and it certainly makes the terrain more interesting. 04:52 VanessaE wb, 0gb 04:52 VanessaE and no, it'll use mgv6 by default, no doubt 04:52 VanessaE but it's easy to select another mapgen 04:52 [0gb_us] Hey, VanessaE! 04:53 [0gb_us] I've seen the light and come back. Though I'm here for other reasons now. I've become one of those free software nuts. 04:53 VanessaE told you so ;) 04:54 [0gb_us] If I hadn't turned into a free software nut though, I wouldn't be back. 04:54 VanessaE fair enough 04:54 [0gb_us] But it doned on me the implications of free software. 04:54 [0gb_us] Free software lets us build off the past. If all software were free, we'd be so much further along technology-wise. 04:55 VanessaE exactly - "I stand on the shoulders of giants" is still as valid today as when it was first uttered 04:55 VanessaE (Edison, wasn't it?) 04:55 [0gb_us] I don't know. I'm no good at history. 04:56 hoodedice haha 04:56 VanessaE heh 04:56 VanessaE no, not Edison 04:56 VanessaE not by a good 800 years :P 04:56 hoodedice Googled. It's Newton 04:57 VanessaE nope 04:57 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants 04:57 VanessaE John of Salisbury, 1159 04:59 [0gb_us] I believe though that our ability to build off the past is granted to us only by our theory of mind. The theory of mind is the only thing that sets us apart from the other animals. The theory of mind states that we don't all share the same knowledge, a theory that other animals don't understand. Because we do, we attempt to learn from others so we can do better. This is why we have learned to build cities and computers and such. If 04:59 [0gb_us] we don't learn from past iterations of our kind, we cannot advance. 04:59 VanessaE exactly. 04:59 [0gb_us] Anyway, that's enough ranting from me. 04:59 [0gb_us] I wouldn't want to become annoying or anything. 05:00 VanessaE please 05:00 VanessaE you didn't go all lamefun on us :) 05:00 VanessaE so no annoyance :) 05:00 [0gb_us] Okay, true. He was somewhat amusing. 05:01 [0gb_us] I don't know if you heard, but I tried to go Trisquel, but that didn't work out. My old system need proprietary drivers, so I have to stick with Xubuntu for now. 05:02 [0gb_us] I did wipe Steam off my system though. 05:02 VanessaE yeah I thought I'd seen that in the scrollback 05:02 VanessaE I'm on Debian these days 05:02 [0gb_us] Debian doesn't like my system either. 05:02 VanessaE oh? 05:02 [0gb_us] It's all good though. 05:03 [0gb_us] On Debian, my Minetest FPS is one. Also, my wireless card won't stay online. 05:03 hoodedice xubuntu is good 05:03 hoodedice You arent *stuck* with it 05:03 hoodedice Plus, ZWIZ I DIDNT READ THE REST ! 05:03 VanessaE I haven't even tried my wireless card since going to Debian. my fps is respectable usually, though 05:03 VanessaE hey Inocudom 05:04 [0gb_us] I can't run the systems I want to run, so I'm stuck with an alternative. Xubuntu isn't the only alternative though, true. 05:04 Inocudom Hello. Sometimes, this chat room is pretty empty. 05:04 VanessaE at this time of night, yeah 05:04 [0gb_us] Hello! 05:05 VanessaE Inocudom: from about 8pm to around 4am EST, it tends to be dead in here 05:05 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo made another video of Redcrab's server recently. 05:05 [0gb_us] Foolish people. Who needs sleep? 05:05 VanessaE cool 05:06 VanessaE too bad he's not playing on mine. my server is 100x better than redcrab's ;) 05:06 VanessaE (ok so it barely has anything built, by comparison :P 05:06 * [0gb_us] shutters at unclosed paren 05:06 Inocudom That server has been having issues with griefing lately. Oxenfreedan might leave it if things don't improve. Looks like redcrab needs to check things out. 05:07 [0gb_us] ) 05:07 VanessaE ) 05:07 VanessaE http://xkcd.com/859/ 05:07 VanessaE oblig. 05:07 VanessaE :) 05:07 [0gb_us] True, true. 05:08 Inocudom Yes, I would like it very much if oOChainLynxOo did a video of your creative server, VanessaE. 05:09 VanessaE not the survival one? :( 05:09 [0gb_us] Oh? I saw your second server, but I didn't know it was survival. 05:09 VanessaE yep 05:09 Inocudom He could do that too, but the creative one has more buildings. 05:09 VanessaE true 05:10 VanessaE no one hardly plays on it anymore though 05:10 [0gb_us] I see it's on a more recent dev version as well. 05:10 aldobr that xkcd i specially true if you are a lisp programmer 05:11 Inocudom There are two or three other individuals that do videos for Minetest, but I don't hear of them much. They don't stand out as much as oOChainLynxOo does. 05:12 [0gb_us] VanessaE, your new server that I've never been to says I have the wrong password. Is there a default password, or is my name in use? 05:12 VanessaE I can reset it if you want 05:12 Inocudom Maybe if they did a video with oOChainLynxOo, they would. 05:12 [0gb_us] Nah, don't. 05:12 VanessaE someone might have used your name. 05:12 [0gb_us] It must be someone else with my name. 05:12 VanessaE in which case I'll reset it. 05:12 [0gb_us] (I type too slowly.) 05:12 [0gb_us] If they got to the name first, that's fine. 05:13 VanessaE no, it isn't fine with me. 05:13 [0gb_us] WHy is that? 05:13 VanessaE your name has a specific meaning, I won't have someone shadowing as you 05:13 [0gb_us] Okay, fair enough. 05:14 Inocudom One of the problems is that there doesn't seem to be many players on any of the servers these days. Where did everybody go? Summer will soon end, and school should have started. 05:14 aldobr redcrab server is bloated with leftovers from past eras 05:14 [0gb_us] They went home. No one has computers at home these days. 05:15 Inocudom The Xonotic community is also getting emptier. 05:16 [0gb_us] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/294/myhobbyzm2.png/ 05:16 Inocudom Me, my mom, and her husband still have computers at our house. Of course, if anything happens to them, it will be years before we can replace them. 05:16 aldobr they liked minetest and thought "well minetest is just a test, lets get the real thing", and then all bought minecraft 05:16 aldobr :/ 05:17 aldobr all becaue of a name ;9 05:17 [0gb_us] Meh. I tried Minecraft. I must say, I didn't like it before or after I flipped out. 05:19 Inocudom I would not like Minecraft at all. For one thing, its community... Well... http://whatculture.com/gaming/7-worst-online-gaming-communities.php/2 05:19 aldobr how they did that ? http://railcraft.wikispaces.com/Tunnel+Bore+%28Cart%29 05:19 aldobr the blocky machine can be halfway between two nodes ?????!!! 05:19 aldobr is that possible with minetest ? 05:20 VanessaE it's probably an entity 05:20 VanessaE they can be anywhere, pointing any direction 05:20 Inocudom There are two mods for Minetest that do that. 05:20 VanessaE or whatever MC's equivalent is 05:20 aldobr hm 05:21 aldobr i like my TBM better, it can dig even on lava :P 05:21 VanessaE DanDuncombe made one also, his is on my server 05:22 aldobr its based on mine 05:22 aldobr he improved it 05:22 VanessaE oh ok 05:22 aldobr theres still a bug that i cant understand (the machine randonly changes direction) 05:22 Inocudom When Minetest gets better entity abm support, moving entities and mobs will work better. 05:22 VanessaE right now, entities need one thing and one thing only: fix that G*d damned duplication bug. 05:23 Inocudom I hope that the carts will be part of the base game one day, but not until that happens. 05:23 Inocudom Oh, that bug is not fun at all. 05:24 aldobr we might as wall get render to texture and lua texture manipulation 05:24 [0gb_us] Especially at the end of the world, entity duplication is a real issue. 05:24 aldobr render to texture allows mirrors and cameras and lua texture manipulation allows computer screens 05:25 Inocudom I love mirrors and hope they work. 05:25 * [0gb_us] points Inocudom to a download mirror 05:26 Inocudom However, this community is quiet these days. Reminds me of the following song from Metroid Prime Hunters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnhjXq9-Ui8&feature=player_detailpage 05:28 VanessaE we don't need more features. 05:28 VanessaE we need bug fixes 05:28 aldobr i want to help bug fixes but i need to get acquainted to the code 05:29 Inocudom Bugfixes are very important, especially ones that increase framerate (very important those are to oOChainLynxOo.) 05:29 [0gb_us] I'd have to agree with VanessaE. I was cool with the game even when it had less features, and it was always the bug fixes that were my favorite "new features" between versions. 05:32 aldobr i want to make a periodic table mod adding all elements from the real world periodic table (good lucky doing all that) 05:32 [0gb_us] That would be sweet! 05:32 aldobr theyt will occur as ores like real world ores and need chemical aparatus to be processed 05:33 aldobr i believe minetest needs an official set of elements and chemical reactions 05:33 aldobr from that we can make colors and metals 05:33 aldobr etc 05:34 [0gb_us] The only chemical reactions in Minetest I know of include water and lava or lava and burnables. 05:35 aldobr iron ore -> gusa iron -> wrought iron or iron ore -> gusa iron -> gusa iron + carbon + manganese -> steel 05:35 aldobr etc 05:35 aldobr not even minecraft is so detailed 05:35 [0gb_us] Detailed isn't always good though .... 05:36 aldobr and a lot of work 05:41 [0gb_us] ... someone made a bitcoin plugin. 05:41 aldobr bitcoin ?!? 05:41 [0gb_us] People are so weird. 05:41 [0gb_us] Yeah. With bitcoin ores. 05:41 [0gb_us] And bitcoin ingots. 05:42 aldobr ahhh 05:42 aldobr i tought they were using real bitcoin in game :P 05:42 [0gb_us] Oh, no, nothing like that. 05:42 aldobr i've made a coin mod that allowed one to make coins out of gold 05:43 aldobr and two machines that allowed buy/sell items with those coin 05:43 aldobr *coins 05:43 [0gb_us] I plan to add ore coins of all six types to my server. 05:45 aldobr we need a page where to draw "railroad diagrams" of material transformation 05:46 aldobr that railroad diagrams would be automatically changed into lua files of register_craft type 05:46 aldobr a set of tools for automatic content creation 05:46 aldobr allowing non-programmers to contribute 05:46 aldobr thats the philosophy behind the sproxel plugin i've made 05:53 Tiktalik i need to work on my project 05:53 Tiktalik i think it'd work well as a minetest fork/mod 06:18 nore hi all 06:18 VanessaE hi 06:19 [0gb_us] Hello! 06:21 aldobr hi 06:31 [0gb_us] Check out the middle strip: http://xkcd.com/824/ 06:40 VanessaE heh 06:40 VanessaE [0gb_us]: also, ##vanessae-servers is the IRC channel for my server. you may wish to auto-join if you're gonna play on them much 06:41 [0gb_us] I killed my auto-join list. I prefer Pidgin's method of storing favorite channels: as bookmarks, but XCat lacks that ability. 06:41 [0gb_us] *XChat 06:41 VanessaE that works, too 06:42 [0gb_us] Well, it would work, if I had that option. 06:44 [0gb_us] 'Wikipedia trivia: if you take any article, click on the first link in the article text not in parentheses or italics, and then repeat, you will eventually end up at "Philosophy".' 06:44 [0gb_us] I just tried it, and it worked in the one case I tried. 06:45 [0gb_us] I didn't think it would work. 06:47 nore [0gb_us]: I made a loop 06:47 nore begin with "Greek" 06:47 [0gb_us] I thought I might end up in a loop, but didn't. I guess that disproves the "trivia". 06:48 nore my loop does not even include "Philosophy" 06:48 nore you can try with "Greek", the loop is fairly long 06:50 [0gb_us] I started at "Greek" and ended up at "Philosophy". 06:50 nore sorry, you have to start at Greek_language 06:52 kahrl huh. is it known that the main menu serverlist misreads some flags? 06:52 nore oops, forgotten the rule about parenthesis 06:53 kahrl for example the first entry (Vazon Server) has a "C" while it is a survival serevr 06:53 kahrl server* 06:54 [0gb_us] I made it from "Greek_language" as well. 06:54 kahrl seems to be because its json is "creative":"0" 06:54 kahrl the code treats every string that is not empty as true 06:57 nore [0gb_us]: I had forgotten the parenthesis, that's why I looped 06:58 [0gb_us] Oh, got it. 07:15 sfan5 wow 07:15 sfan5 you can actually get from the XTEA article in Wikipedia to Philosophy 07:15 sfan5 hi everyone 07:16 [0gb_us] Hello! 07:16 [0gb_us] It's probably a rule in the Wikipedia content guidelines somewhere. All articles must lead to Philosophy. 07:21 jojoa1997 hello 07:21 [0gb_us] Hello! 07:21 jojoa1997 [0gb_us] where have you been? I havenmt seen you in a while. 07:21 [0gb_us] I've been ... away. 07:21 [0gb_us] I'm back though. Maybe. 07:22 [0gb_us] The results are inconclusive. 07:22 jojoa1997 away as in a break from minetest 07:22 [0gb_us] Away as in I completely quit. I wasn't going to come back at all, but I had a couple Epiphanies. 07:23 [0gb_us] Decapitalize that. It isn't a proper noun. 07:23 jojoa1997 yeah i did the same thing for the last two months 07:23 jojoa1997 then i decided to check up on things cause i might still like it 07:24 [0gb_us] I'm doing an overhaul on the game, then updating my server. Though the lag there is still horrible, so people probably shouldn't go there. 07:25 jojoa1997 maybe you should start with a new map 07:25 jojoa1997 i know rarkenin left 07:26 jojoa1997 and the girl who's name had bear in it(to tired to remembber) hasnt said anything on the forums since you left so i guess both are gone and then a restart for the server might be good 07:27 [0gb_us] He turned out to be an identity thief, so good ridens. He wasn't even the real rarkenin. 07:27 [0gb_us] Bearbar123. 07:28 jojoa1997 so the rarkenin we knew wasnt really rarkenin 07:29 [0gb_us] Right. 07:29 jojoa1997 so that guy could have been a stalker for all we know 07:31 [0gb_us] He isn't a stocker, I don't think. He's just some guy that blackmailed the real rarkenin into handing over the name. 07:32 jojoa1997|Tablet oh 07:36 jojoa1997 So 0gb.us will you be restarting your server which i think is a very good idea 07:37 [0gb_us] And lose what people have made? I promised not to do that, so doing it anyway seems like a bad idea. 07:37 [0gb_us] Once I manage to get a modern computer, I'll make a new world. And keep the old. 07:38 jojoa1997 oh 07:38 Calinou :o [0gb_us] is back 07:38 [0gb_us] Maybe. 07:38 jojoa1997 maybe you could put a download of the current world adn then start a new one? 07:39 [0gb_us] I had a couple epiphanies, so I returned. 07:39 [0gb_us] Starting a new one isn't happening until I modernize my setup. 07:40 jojoa1997 ok 07:40 * jojoa1997 misses the minetest_game only stuff 07:41 [0gb_us] The new world will have more than just minetest_game stuff. I have big plans for that place. 07:42 jojoa1997 like what 07:42 nore technic_game? 07:42 jojoa1997 no that crashes all the time for me 07:42 jojoa1997 but technic would be nice 07:42 [0gb_us] No. 0gb.us_game, but with a MAJOR overhaul. 07:42 jojoa1997 like what 07:42 nore jojoa, why does it crash? 07:43 jojoa1997 pipeworks 07:43 nore and why? 07:43 jojoa1997 idk why but pipeworks crash 07:43 nore make a bug report then 07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that make you feel? 07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that person make you feel? 07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that game make you feel? 07:43 nore could you give me the last lines of debug.txt? 07:43 jojoa1997 what am i in therapy? 07:44 jojoa1997 nore i am using Vanessae_game now and her pipes work and i am too tired to reproduce the error 07:44 [0gb_us] "Old Miner's Chest"s will appear at times, full of loot. Though I can't say what makes them appear. You'll have to not know or have to read the source code. I'm also adding some sort of rubble node (six types) and a bunch of other new nodes. 07:44 nore jojoa, did you just try to update pipeworks? 07:45 jojoa1997 what about adding BlockMen's mines mod? 07:45 Calinou forum has 100,000 posts :o 07:45 jojoa1997 nore please dont ask me to fix it i am very tired but cant fall asleep 07:45 * jojoa1997 is 4th most posts 07:46 [0gb_us] Whas the "mines mod" question directed at me? 07:47 nore [0gb_us], is isn't on github now, is it? 07:47 jojoa1997 go to blockmens topics in the forum and look at all of blockmen's mods 07:47 [0gb_us] What isn't, 0gb.us_game? No, it isn't. I don't have even a single line of code written for it yet. 07:47 khonkhortisan It should be relatively easy to add a flatland option to in-client world creation, no? 07:48 nore khonkhortisan, yes 07:48 [0gb_us] Seems simple to me, but I don't know C++ yet. 07:48 khonkhortisan ok 07:48 khonkhortisan I think it would be lua at this point, with the new menu 07:48 nore there is lua mainmenu now 07:49 jojoa1997 they add very nice touches even if they kinda originate from minecraft(mines with chests,pyramids,3d torches,gates) 07:49 jojoa1997 yes 07:49 [0gb_us] The main menu is in Lua now? Nice! 07:49 jojoa1997 idk 07:49 nore [0gb_us], yes, and with texture pack selection 07:49 khonkhortisan I had the release revision written down 07:49 jojoa1997 i swore i saw a laumenu.lua somewhere 07:50 khonkhortisan builtin/mainmenu.lua 07:50 jojoa1997 finally they took my idea 07:50 [0gb_us] Texture pack selection ... THings have changed in my absence. 07:50 khonkhortisan mine too 07:50 jojoa1997 i had been buggin about texturepacks for a month or two 07:50 jojoa1997 and 07:50 nore I'm happy texture pack selection is a feature that people like, because I coded it ;) 07:51 khonkhortisan I came back to an empty world list and had to fix a bug 07:51 jojoa1997 as i remember they thought my way of having texturepacks in their own folder was stupid even though that is the default way now 07:51 * jojoa1997 finds nore in RL and gives him/her a BIG HUG 07:52 khonkhortisan in their own folder is the only right way 07:52 jojoa1997 yes 07:52 [0gb_us] Oh, nice! THat should make a lot of people happy. 07:52 khonkhortisan it keeps them separate, revision-control compatible and everything 07:52 jojoa1997 0gb also 07:52 jojoa1997 there is bumpmapping(3d loook) 07:53 * jojoa1997 pokes VanessaE 07:53 VanessaE ow. 07:53 jojoa1997 VAnessaE you texturepack normal maps need more variation from blue to red 07:53 nore jojoa: doesn't work for everyone 07:53 jojoa1997 currently it doesnt look 3d at all 07:53 VanessaE no, they don't. 07:53 khonkhortisan so higher bumps? 07:53 jojoa1997 yes 07:53 VanessaE that's not how they work. 07:53 khonkhortisan or more graduated? 07:53 jojoa1997 yeah 07:54 jojoa1997 look at haven versus yours 07:54 khonkhortisan it can only look 3d until you hit the edge 07:54 [0gb_us] What is bump mapping? 07:54 khonkhortisan hehe 07:54 khonkhortisan what is bump mapping. 07:54 VanessaE haven's bumpmaps are overly strong. 07:54 khonkhortisan it's cool! 07:54 VanessaE [0gb_us]: it's a way of giving 3d surface detail to a flat surface using only an image 07:54 jojoa1997 VanessaE i enabled bump mapping and thought i broke it because i couldnt tell the difference with and without 07:54 nore bumpmapping is perturbing the normals to the surfaces to give an impression of 3d 07:55 khonkhortisan [0gb_us], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_mapping look at the edges of the red spheres 07:55 [0gb_us] Ah, I see. I'll have to look into that before continuing the textures I'm building. 07:55 VanessaE lighting is calculated and reflected off of the map depending on your view angle and that of the light, creating highlights and shadows that don't exist in the original texture 07:55 jojoa1997 so what i am saying is maybe add a little more areas of higher bumps to add a 3d look 07:55 khonkhortisan bumpmapping makes it appear as if there are bumps, but it can't affect the visual edge of an object 07:55 VanessaE jojoa1997: that's as it should be. the "3d look" will become far more pronounced once parallax mapping goes in 07:55 jojoa1997 0gb also there is a mods tab 07:56 VanessaE jojoa1997: I want my normalmaps to be very subtle 07:56 jojoa1997 ok 07:56 khonkhortisan I put some mods (moretrees, animals_modpack, flowers...) into their own folder so I can disable them as one big modpack when I want a clean world 07:56 [0gb_us] I think I saw that tab before I left. 07:56 jojoa1997 i just thought that a little more variation on stuff like cobble would look nice 07:57 VanessaE jojoa1997: I will rework them as needed later, after the parallax mapping goes in. 07:57 jojoa1997 Dab 07:57 jojoa1997 0gb 07:57 jojoa1997 you can also download mods from the client 07:57 [0gb_us] Oh, nice! 07:58 [0gb_us] From where? 07:58 jojoa1997 idr 07:58 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPsQtlHthQ weird, man. 07:58 jojoa1997 i dont remember 07:58 khonkhortisan The surface looks like it has ridges, which don't connect with the ridges on the other side of the cube edge 07:58 [0gb_us] Hmm. THis changes everything .... I'll have to code this differently. 07:58 nore [0gb_us], this is mmdb, though there are only a few mods on it now, and you need a build with curl enabled 07:59 khonkhortisan If I can download mods from the client, can I tell my client to git pull? 07:59 jojoa1997 there was alot added 07:59 [0gb_us] How do you add to this "mmdb"? 07:59 jojoa1997 there is a topic on hte forum 08:00 nore [0gb_us], you go to https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ and click "Add a mod" 08:00 jojoa1997 Also 0gb remeber your skin with the ores 08:00 khonkhortisan my mod download scrollbar won't scroll 08:00 khonkhortisan oh nevermind it was just frozen 08:00 nore khonkhortisan, you need to use the arrows 08:00 nore the scroll doesn't scroll 08:00 jojoa1997 well you dont have to worry about me using it i made a new one 08:01 [0gb_us] You can keep using it. It was never a problem. 08:01 jojoa1997 no 0gb i have a new skin 08:01 khonkhortisan the mod database needs mesecons!!! 08:01 jojoa1997 as in i made one that i like alot 08:02 jojoa1997 minetest needs mesecons 08:02 khonkhortisan mesecons need worldedit too 08:02 khonkhortisan the more wires the better 08:02 jojoa1997 /pos1 08:02 [0gb_us] I would make one, but I still can't come up with anything symmetrical that I would want. I need arms and legs that don't match. 08:02 jojoa1997 /pos2 08:03 jojoa1997 /replace "all" "mesecons:wire_00000000" 08:03 khonkhortisan /stack, //copy, //move, //set air bleh! 08:03 khonkhortisan I only use the regular wire when I need a four-way intersection 08:03 * jojoa1997 uses redstone 08:03 khonkhortisan I've never tried redstone 08:03 jojoa1997 i like it 08:04 khonkhortisan is it in classic mc? 08:04 jojoa1997 btw 0gb i bought minecraft muwhahhaha 08:04 khonkhortisan google says no 08:05 khonkhortisan my eyes are having trouble blinking, it's morning now 08:05 jojoa1997 redstone is better in the fact that since it is all java it runs faster with the game 08:05 khonkhortisan but they don't have the Null Cell on us anymore 08:05 jojoa1997 :what time 08:05 khonkhortisan 1:05 08:05 jojoa1997 what is Null Cell 08:05 khonkhortisan I can go about another hour 08:06 jojoa1997 :4:05 here 08:06 khonkhortisan it's a left-right wire and a forward-back wire in the same node but they aren't connected 08:06 jojoa1997 oh 0gb can i be the new moderator on your server 08:06 [0gb_us] I'm quiting proprietary gaming, so I'm not going anywhere near Minecraft. 08:07 jojoa1997 there is the answer i was expecting 08:07 khonkhortisan I plan on hacking TeamSpeak to add linux text-to-speech 08:07 [0gb_us] Okay, I can do that. If we can get the server to take it, it'r runnig slow. 08:07 [0gb_us] *running 08:08 jojoa1997 what is the ip 08:08 jojoa1997 and since you were supposed to be gone for good who has kept it running 08:08 khonkhortisan ... 08:09 [0gb_us] I don't know my IP offhand. Not since my ISP changed it. 08:09 jojoa1997 so it isnt 0gb.us 08:09 [0gb_us] I've had it running, I just haven't been online. 08:09 [0gb_us] That's not an IP address. 08:09 khonkhortisan I clicked Mods→Install, then I pressed the [X]. I went back, pressed Cancel. I went back again and pressed Escape, and my game went away. 08:09 jojoa1997 dun dun dunnnnnnn 08:09 [0gb_us] 0gb.us is the address, just not the IP address. 08:10 jojoa1997 i always wonder why there are so many people in irc that never speak 08:10 khonkhortisan we like reading the scrollback 08:10 jojoa1997 lol 08:11 [0gb_us] Okay, the server took it, after several minutes. 08:13 khonkhortisan Now I can splurge on my texture packs without the threat of getting stuck with one 08:14 [0gb_us] I only use one anyway. I set it in the conf and forget it. 08:14 jojoa1997 splurge? 08:14 khonkhortisan But you can set in in the client 08:14 jojoa1997 0gb you can set multiple in the client 08:14 * jojoa1997 wishes that there could be a way to set it ingame 08:14 khonkhortisan splurge meaning more buying many of them and meaning less of the spending part 08:15 nore jojoa: not possible 08:15 jojoa1997 yes it is 08:15 [0gb_us] It would be possible, but would lead to complications. 08:15 jojoa1997 nore what happens is you chnage the textures and then have the player reloda the world 08:16 khonkhortisan I wish I could toggle fullscreen, change key controls, umm I don't have that ipv6 problem anymore, I'll have to fill in this list some more 08:16 nore you would have to reload the textures, etc so you would have a load time, etc. 08:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: [09-02 04:18] Vanessa, can you add a craftrecipe for digilines? 08:16 VanessaE suggestions? 08:17 nore look at technic_game 08:17 nore there is a mod called digilines_craftrecipes 08:17 khonkhortisan I always play creative/worldedit when I do any serious mesecons/digilines 08:17 khonkhortisan I know few of the survival recipes 08:18 khonkhortisan What about an insulated wire plus uninsulated? 08:18 VanessaE I'd have chosen to use several insulated wires. 08:18 khonkhortisan makes more sense your way 08:18 VanessaE maybe four of those plus another bundle of insulation, yields 4 digilines wires 08:19 khonkhortisan another bundle keeps it away from recipe conflicts 08:19 VanessaE (since it's basically I2C, so I guess that's data, control, power, ground?) 08:19 khonkhortisan lol 08:19 VanessaE *checks wiki* 08:19 VanessaE an 08:19 VanessaE data, CLOCK, power, ground duh 08:20 [0gb_us] Hello! 08:20 khonkhortisan to have to look up how many wires there are in a wire just to create one in a game 08:21 VanessaE I believe it's three uninsulated + 6 insulation = 3 insulated 08:22 VanessaE so that's effectively 9 insulation + 4 uninsulated wires = 4 digilines 08:22 khonkhortisan oh yeah, I remember I wanted to make all wires use 6d facedir 08:22 VanessaE oh boy 08:22 khonkhortisan You could make a game board on the ground 08:23 khonkhortisan but there's only 9 spots for crafting total 08:25 jojoa1997 bye gotta start my day cya 08:27 nore khonkhortisan, look at digilines_converters in technic_game 08:28 nore it might me useful 08:28 nore s/me/be 08:28 khonkhortisan are they also in technic mod? 08:28 nore basically, it is simple converter between digilines and mesecons signals 08:28 nore no, there are not in technic 08:28 VanessaE they* 08:29 nore I could have made a repo for them, but for now, they are only in technic_game 08:29 khonkhortisan I said they :P I'm just kidding 08:31 khonkhortisan g'night y'all 08:32 [0gb_us] G'night! 08:41 SMelly Hello Hello 08:42 SMelly What is a quick way for an admin to claim a large amount of land 08:42 SMelly Hey BrandonReese nice to see you in IRC 08:50 [0gb_us] SMelly, it depends on what claiming plugin you are using. 08:51 SMelly landrush 08:51 [0gb_us] If I recall correctly which one that is, I don't think there is a way. 08:52 SMelly The one with the little blue boxes 08:53 SMelly I tried to world edit a bunch across 08:53 SMelly it did not work 08:53 SMelly sadly 08:54 SMelly welll ty 08:54 [0gb_us] I just Googled it, and I'm afraid there isn't a way, unless something was added that I don't know about. I know the plugin that one was derived from, but I haven't used landrush itself yet. 08:54 SMelly ah 08:54 SMelly Well thank you for all the help 08:54 SMelly i am off to see the wizard noew 08:54 SMelly now* 08:54 SMelly I heard he got cable 08:54 [0gb_us] Good luck! 08:54 SMelly Thank you 08:55 SMelly Take care 09:59 VanessaE hi 10:01 VanessaE there's already a function for that by way of the ambiance mod I think 10:01 VanessaE but definitely not 10:01 * VanessaE prefers her own selection of music 10:03 pitriss VanessaE: yeah.. music on some servers get on my nerves:D 10:03 kahrl I like how in MC the peaceful piano music tends to start playing when you're amidst a horde of every mob possible 10:03 pitriss VanessaE: and worst thing about it is that it cannot be disabled in client 10:16 nore Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreores/pull/4 10:16 e1z0 i 10:16 e1z0 hi 10:17 nore hi 11:44 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:54 Jordach btw, mod suggestion: http://imgur.com/gallery/vRzYG 12:03 PilzAdam the Katar is not unusual, its in Diablo 2 12:51 Jordach andersje, living in (or near?) minnesota? 12:56 nothoodedice So... 12:58 * Jordach slaps nothoodedice 12:58 nothoodedice OW! 12:58 nothoodedice Wut? 13:00 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 13:00 Jordach !op 13:23 e1z0 any guide about running private dedicated server of minetest ? 13:27 proller install, run. 13:51 bas080 Prototype for the nyan world stats webpage https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/nyan/index.html 14:04 NekoGloop bas you griefer 14:12 PilzAdam bbl 14:17 bas080 NekoGloop, it doesn't mean griefing perse. I'm an admin so sometimes instead of using rollback i fix it by digging. 14:17 NekoGloop I figured as much 14:17 NekoGloop griefing the griefers, per se. 14:18 bas080 i love doing rollback while there doing there grief. 14:21 kaeza mornings 14:22 Exio4 hai kaeza :D 14:22 kaeza sup Exio4 14:23 * NekoGloop noms kaeza 14:25 Erikas0012 Minetest anyone? 14:26 NekoGloop no 14:26 LazyJ Does anyone know if better shadows are in the works for Minetest? 14:27 NekoGloop There are shadows? 14:27 kaeza yes, Shadow Ninja 14:27 kaeza :D 14:27 kaeza actually no 14:27 LazyJ For example, I've noticed upsidedown stairs have no contrast to better show depth. 14:28 LazyJ I 14:28 NekoGloop That's because of the wierd lighting system 14:28 NekoGloop You might have also noticed that light goes through stairs to some extent 14:28 LazyJ From a short distance there is no visible difference between a stair and it's full-block counterpart. 14:29 LazyJ Aye, I've used the weird illumination to make things glow around the edges. 14:30 NekoGloop Nodeboxes, the things that are used to make stairs look like stairs, require light to pass through the node 14:30 LazyJ I've noticed there are three shader test folders in the /client/shader folder. Are they functional or just there for testing? 14:30 NekoGloop Well if they're called "shader test folders" then they're probably for testing 14:31 LazyJ Ah, sorry for the topic jump, NekoGloop. 14:31 NekoGloop It's somewhat related 14:31 NekoGloop Still minetest graphics :P 14:31 LazyJ Ah. I was wondering if there was a conf setting I missed or didn't have right. 14:32 NekoGloop A conf setting for the stairs to look nice? 14:32 NekoGloop Yeah no. 14:34 LazyJ Stairs were the most recent thing I was working with. There are other light and shadow things that still need improvement/tweaking. 14:34 NekoGloop same with my treasure chests, homedecor's nearly-everything, etc, everything else that isn't a full node 14:34 e1z0 minetest support minecraft worlds ? 14:34 e1z0 :O 14:35 NekoGloop e1z0, With a converter, minecraft classic maps -can- be imported, yes. 14:35 e1z0 oh 14:35 e1z0 where can i get the converter ? 14:35 LazyJ Is the limitation because the nodebox code (or any other Minetest code) can't handle the graphic effects or is it because to write the code for it is a gargantuan undertaking? 14:35 NekoGloop No idea. 14:36 NekoGloop LazyJ, It's because celeron is a derp 14:37 LazyJ I gather a "derp" isn't a good thing. ;) 14:37 NekoGloop and nobody's fixed his derpiness yet 14:37 NekoGloop It's probably not even incredibly difficult to fix, you'd just have to find where to fix it :P 14:38 LazyJ If I had the code savvy, I'd work on it myself. 14:38 NekoGloop I don't know C++. :3 14:38 LazyJ Just one of many things on the Minetest to-do list. 14:39 NekoGloop Minetest to-do list: Improve lighting, make game fast. 14:40 NekoGloop :P 14:52 jojoa1997 Will normal maps of the default textures be added to minetest? 14:53 jojoa1997 As in bump mapping 14:56 sfan5 jojoa1997: they look bad with low resolution textures(16x) 14:57 jojoa1997 Sfan5 so what 14:57 philipbenr yes I noticed. I saw the example in ReallyBadAngel's topic. So we are just implementing bump-mapping, right? 14:57 jojoa1997 Most people won't use it then 14:58 sfan5 jojoa1997: they won'get added because they look bad with default textures 14:58 sfan5 won't get* 14:58 philipbenr I will with a texture pack. 15:05 e1z0 why in creative mode i can't destroy blocks ? 15:06 e1z0 only create, is there any option for the server config to enable it ? 15:06 Calinou you hold the left mouse button 15:06 Calinou nodes aren't destroy instantly ;) 15:07 e1z0 ah ok 15:07 e1z0 thanks 15:13 nore Calinou, https://github.com/Calinou/moreores/pull/4 15:13 nore I coded a bit fast, and had forgotten to test 15:13 nore so that fixes: a syntax error, a nil error and a "ore not generating" error 15:14 Calinou merged 15:15 nore and you can close pull 3 too, it looks like it was an attempt to fix this, but it wouldn't work 15:17 Jordach Peacock, new auto ban suggestion: youtube advertisers; with nicks like: "thisguy643_youtube" 15:18 Peacock im thinking of a keyword list yeah, anything with 'minecraft','minetest','xXx', etc. lol 15:18 Jordach Peacock, oh, and make sure you allow people to record videos of your server 15:18 Jordach (well, s/you/your choice 15:18 Jordach ) 15:18 Peacock trickier one might be coming up with a regex for NaMeSlIkEtHiS 15:18 Jordach Peacock, ignore caps and lower case 15:19 Peacock why would i not let them make videos? its their desktop, they can record what they want lol 15:19 Jordach just run a: if lower then upper; ban() 15:19 Peacock though from what i understand theres only one mt player who does YT vids 15:19 Calinou trickier one might be coming up with a regex for NaMeSlIkEtHiS 15:19 Calinou some people have such name and can not act like kids 15:19 Calinou eg. RaZgRiZ :P 15:19 Calinou some guy from #redeclipse 15:19 nore Peacock, do a if 0.25<#upper/#lower<0.75 then BAN 15:20 Peacock ugh, its even painful on the eyes lol 15:21 Peacock well in regex i guess that would... ([a-z][A-z])+ ? 15:21 nore ehh, actually if 0.25<#upper/(#upper+#lower)0.75 15:21 nore Peacock, my name is AbCdEfGhi 15:21 nore not matched 15:21 Peacock hm, 15:22 nore my suggestion works well 15:22 Peacock well it would look for a repeating pattern, so it would still match no? 15:22 Peacock even with the extra lowercase i at the end 15:22 Peacock i wouldn't specify the beginning/end symbols (^ and $ i think?) 15:23 nore or even if 0.25<#upper/length then BAN 15:23 nore and what if I'm called AbcDefGhiJklMnoPqrS ? 15:23 nore or ABcDEfGHiJKlM ? 15:24 Peacock or i could do the opposite and specify one regex for acceptable names like ([A-Z]?[a-z])+ ? 15:25 nore perhaps [A-Z?][a-z]+[0-9]{0:2} 15:25 Peacock could work since i only allow two digits 15:25 nore your patterm matches AbCdEf for now 15:26 nore at least, remove the parenthesises 15:26 Peacock well alot of names are also two words 15:27 Peacock ([A-Z?][a-z][a-z]+)+[0-9]{0:2} 15:27 Peacock ? 15:28 nore change the second "+" to {1:3} 15:31 e1z0 is there any flying mode on minetest ? 15:32 e1z0 i cannot find in the documentation 15:32 Jordach e1z0, /grant singleplayer all 15:32 Jordach then press k to fly 15:32 e1z0 i mean multiplayer :O 15:32 Peacock ([A-Z?][a-z][a-z]+){1:3}[0-9]{0:2} 15:32 Peacock ? 15:33 Jordach e1z0, nope, the server admin has to grant you the ability to fly 15:33 e1z0 i'm the admin 15:33 NekoGloop /grant n00b fly 15:33 e1z0 lol 15:33 e1z0 ok 15:34 e1z0 your privileges are insufficient 15:34 e1z0 hmm 15:34 e1z0 what can i do more ? 15:34 Jordach e1z0, /grant e1z0 fly, fast, noclip 15:35 Jordach e1z0, are you logged in from the same machine as the server or somewhere else 15:35 e1z0 not the same machine 15:35 Jordach (the true server admin is the person who logs in at the same location of the server) 15:35 Jordach otherwise, nobody else gets admin, not even the first joined playet 15:35 Jordach player* 15:36 e1z0 is there any workaround for that ? 15:36 e1z0 maybe telneting to it ? 15:37 e1z0 or maybe i can modify the source so that my nick name can get privileges at login ? 15:41 e1z0 hmm 15:41 e1z0 maybe i can set it to auth.txt ? 15:41 kaeza e1z0, the player named in the `name' variable in the server config automatically gets all privs 15:42 e1z0 oh 15:42 e1z0 ok 15:42 kaeza so if you have access to the server's minetest.conf, set name= 15:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB33EF8ZuNo 15:43 e1z0 yeah, i have all acceess 15:43 e1z0 thanks for the support 15:43 e1z0 :-) 15:43 kaeza np :) 15:44 e1z0 but it works specifying fly on the auth.txt too 15:45 e1z0 btw, nice to have an opensource clone of minecraft 15:45 e1z0 the damn java of that shit sucks 15:45 e1z0 :| 15:45 e1z0 minecraft will be good if it was not based on java 15:46 kaeza Soon: Minecraft tries to be a proprietary clone of Minetest :D 15:46 e1z0 lol 15:46 e1z0 indeed 15:47 e1z0 if i could covert my world from minecraft to minetest 15:47 e1z0 it would be very great 15:48 Jordach classic or vanilla 15:49 e1z0 vanilla, 1.4.7 version 15:49 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:49 e1z0 i'm usiing bukkit server with it 15:49 nore e1z0, there are a few things on the forum that do that 15:49 Calinou hi 15:49 Jordach e1z0, talk to sfan5, he has a world converter 15:49 e1z0 nore i read about filters 15:49 e1z0 on mcedit 15:49 e1z0 but i can't convert entire world 15:49 e1z0 it's huge 15:49 nore however, some nodes can't be converted 15:49 nore so you will have to choose what they are converted too (if it is vanilla) 15:49 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:49 Jordach Prestotron562, disable shaders 15:50 nore because you have an old version of OpenGL 15:50 Jordach and don't use Direct3D9 with shaders 15:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:50 e1z0 hmm 15:50 e1z0 ok 15:50 e1z0 sfan5 are you online ? 15:50 Jordach Prestotron562, shaders only work on more recent GPUs with OpenGL 15:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:51 nore e1z0, he was there 1 hour ago 15:51 Calinou shaders enhance graphics in general 15:51 nore dunno if he is still around 15:51 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:51 e1z0 i can wait, i have time :-) 15:51 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:52 nore when you mean come out, is it first version? 15:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:53 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:54 nore the first commit on github was 2010-10-21 15:54 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:54 nore sorry, 2010-11-21 15:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:56 Calinou suddenly: virality 15:57 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:57 Calinou by actually making them instead of dreaming of them 15:57 nore make a good game, free and open source 15:57 Calinou with decent graphics 15:58 nore and ask distro makers to put them 15:58 nore in the distros 15:58 Calinou won't work 15:58 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:58 Calinou you can be in distro repos and not be popular, and inversely 15:58 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:58 Calinou and some distro repo maintainers are... annoying 15:58 Calinou also most people use windows 15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:59 Calinou yet you use it 15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:01 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:02 * Jordach realized i'm still OP 16:02 Calinou !deop Jordach 16:02 Calinou wubi sucks, too 16:03 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:03 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:03 Jordach Prestotron562, you're still relying on windows 16:04 Jordach i can remove the w7 partition right now and i can just use mint 16:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:06 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi 16:06 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:07 OldCoder Prestotron562, nice nick 16:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:07 * OldCoder is never sarcastic and would prefer :) to :/ 16:07 * OldCoder is sort of literal 16:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:08 OldCoder o/ 16:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:09 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:10 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:11 e1z0 is mcedit capable to edit minetest world ? 16:12 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:12 OldCoder Prestotron562, Not awkward. It is the tides of IRC. 16:12 thexyz sfan5: were there colors in formspecs in 0.4.7? 16:13 OldCoder thexyz, Hello. My worlds are back after a month or so away. Migrated to fast new server. BTW We're hoping to see LevelDB merged. Then we may fork or spoon. I'm going to revert changes that prevent backwards compatibility. 16:13 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:13 OldCoder I don't wish to see old worlds die 16:13 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZrX9A0o.png 16:14 OldCoder R 16:14 OldCoder That is Sam, Jordach? 16:14 kaeza Prestotron562, that's usually how it works, yes 16:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:14 Jordach OldCoder, modified skin 16:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:15 OldCoder Jordach, is his name Sam? 16:15 kaeza at least in the open source scene 16:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:16 OldCoder Prestotron562, there are a few people who build it 16:16 OldCoder They feel it had some charm 16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:16 OldCoder No; early versions of MT 16:16 Peacock the oldest still being developed is mt classic i think 16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:16 OldCoder Hmm. Peacock link for MT Classic? 16:17 Peacock http://minetest-classic.com/ 16:17 Jordach http://minetest-classic.com 16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:17 Jordach fuck, ninja'd 16:17 OldCoder ty 16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:17 OldCoder Ninjas are fun 16:17 Peacock would actually be an excellent place to try the binary api idea that was floated here a few days ago 16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:18 OldCoder Jordach, Peacock, Prestotron562 I shall need to run a MT Classic World 16:18 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:19 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:19 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:19 Jordach <3 http://www.wolframalpha.com/ 16:19 proller Prestotron562, server_announce = 1 16:20 kaeza LOL https://github.com/minetest/minetest/diff_blob/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c/data/tf.jpg?raw=true 16:20 Peacock i could never use mt classic though, way too many nodeboxes in my game, and now with upside-down (6d) placement too lol 16:20 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:20 kaeza so that was the original player sprite? :P 16:20 Peacock im thinking of switching back to the original 2d player sprite :P 16:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:21 e1z0 lol 16:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:22 Peacock FreeFull chat here, i barely glance at terminal lol 16:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:27 kaeza ಠ_ಠ16:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:27 nore kaeza, what were those characters? 16:27 nore can't see them 16:28 sfan5 wat 16:28 OldCoder Prestotron562, Freenode discourages logging but this channel is logged 16:28 OldCoder Actually much of this is in Google 16:28 sfan5 thexyz: IIRC yes 16:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:28 kaeza nore, http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tom_delay.jpg?t=1306039128 16:28 nore Prestotron562, loggingbot_ is there for that 16:28 OldCoder Prestotron562, there are bots running 16:28 sfan5 Prestotron562: magic 16:29 Peacock Prostatron562: black magic 16:29 nore kaeza, what's the hex for that character? 16:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:29 OldCoder Prestotron562, they can be done using short scripts in Python and Perl 16:29 nore !help 16:29 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 16:29 nore look at the repo 16:30 OldCoder http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2968408/how-do-i-program-a-simple-irc-bot-in-python 16:30 OldCoder ^ Prestotron562 16:30 kaeza nore "\u0CA0_\u0CA0" 16:30 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:30 Peacock dont show him how to do that, one of hims asking questions is enough :p 16:31 OldCoder Peacock, his bot can provide answers. Plus we'll make it clear that excessive testing here is discouraged. 16:31 OldCoder Strongly 16:31 * kaeza has a bot in Lua that can run Lua code from IRC 16:31 OldCoder Bots that are too active tend to get shot on sight 16:32 OldCoder kaeza, that sounds useful 16:32 Peacock behind the chemical shed 16:32 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:33 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:33 OldCoder Prestotron562, I was referring to future bots 16:33 OldCoder Questions are O.K. 16:33 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:33 kaeza OldCoder, join ##mt-irc-mod for a demo if you want 16:34 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:34 OldCoder kaeza, just a brief one 16:34 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:34 sfan5 Prestotron562: goddamnit read the whole page/whatever before you ask 16:35 sfan5 you need to set up every bot differently 16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:35 OldCoder Prestotron562, Hang on. I am reviewing kaeza's project. And take it one step at a time. Step 1, learn Python or Perl. Maybe Lua. 16:35 OldCoder Prestotron562, can you go learn Python? 16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:35 sfan5 not enough 16:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:37 sfan5 yes but thats bad 16:37 Jordach it teaches bad programming practices 16:37 OldCoder Prestotron562, you must understand what you are doing 16:37 OldCoder Each and every line if possible 16:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:40 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:42 OldCoder Good luck 16:43 OldCoder Jordach, is the MT skin named Sam? Does it have a name or a claim to fame? 16:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 16:50 VanessaE hi 16:52 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi. Join ##mt-irc-mod 16:52 OldCoder Temporary Lua bot test 16:59 Jordach OldCoder, nope. that's me 17:00 e1z0 :O 17:00 OldCoder Jordach, all right 17:00 * e1z0 slaps sfan5 with minecraft>minetest world converter 17:00 e1z0 can you share it ? 17:01 Jordach got any thoughts: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/311/mystery.png 17:01 Jordach ^ will be uploading the finale later today 17:05 Peacock how to stop? ServerEnvironment::addActiveObjectRaw(): could not find block for storing id=213 statically... 17:06 Jordach OldCoder, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/363/untitled.png 17:07 OldCoder R 17:08 OldCoder R #2 17:08 OldCoder Jordach, what are they? 17:08 OldCoder The two images? 17:08 Jordach the first one was to see if anyone can remember early december #minetest 17:09 OldCoder And the 2nd? 17:09 Jordach MinetestBot isn't the first bot to be named Minetest- 17:09 Jordach OldCoder, it's a mimic chest 17:09 Jordach try to open it and you get a shock 17:09 OldCoder Ah 17:09 OldCoder And the MT family (I assume) ? 17:09 e1z0 sfan5 are you here ? 17:10 OldCoder e1z0, he is over in kaeza's bot testing channel 17:10 e1z0 :o 17:11 OldCoder Jordach, what is the 2nd image; the group of 3 people? 17:11 Jordach you mean http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/311/mystery.png 17:11 OldCoder Yes 17:11 Jordach Sam I, MinetestBot and Sam II 17:12 OldCoder All right 17:12 OldCoder These are your work? 17:12 Jordach btw, i actually dug through half a years worth of logs to find that info 17:12 Jordach OldCoder, correct 17:12 OldCoder All right thanks 17:12 Jordach CC-BY-SA if you're asking 17:12 OldCoder I am thank you 17:13 Jordach i usually post images here, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/ 17:13 OldCoder Ah 17:13 OldCoder Nice 17:19 PilzAdam Jordach, the outline in this image doesnt look good: http://i.imgur.com/qxX0iyK.png 17:19 Jordach PilzAdam, video will not have outlines 17:36 iqualfragile we realy need 3d torches 17:37 VanessaE G*d no 17:37 Prestotron562_ -.- The Minetest Bot is just phenny. 17:38 VanessaE 3d = the model sets the shape = I can't texture it to look "just right". 17:38 Prestotron562_ It's a premade Bot. 17:39 iqualfragile we need 3d torches and give modpacks the ability to overide models 17:41 Prestotron562_ .... 17:42 VanessaE iqualfragile: well if the texture pack modifies the model on the client only, that would do 17:42 sfan5 e1z0: hm? 17:42 Prestotron562_ How do you run a .py file? 17:43 VanessaE Prestotron562_: with python 17:43 sfan5 Prestotron562_: with google 17:43 VanessaE :P 17:43 Prestotron562_ I'm installing Python VanessaE, But it fails everytime. Its taking 1 hour too. And what kind of Python. I'm downloading ActivePython 17:44 VanessaE idk what "kind", I use the one that comes with my OS 17:44 * VanessaE runs linux 17:44 sfan5 just download the normal python 17:44 Prestotron562_ What OS do you have? 17:44 sfan5 not activepython 17:44 Prestotron562_ Can I have a link to normal Python? 17:44 sfan5 http://www.python.org/download/ 17:44 sfan5 is it really that hard to use google and your brain? 17:45 Prestotron562_ No I just prefer people explaining things. No need to make fun of me. 17:46 Prestotron562_ ummm... which one 17:46 Prestotron562_ Ihave Windows Vista 32 bit. 17:46 sfan5 the one that says Windows x86 17:46 Prestotron562_ K 17:47 Prestotron562_ 40 min left 17:48 Prestotron562_ 19, 25, 54, 32 min left 17:48 Prestotron562_ Whats coming next in 0.4.8? 17:48 Jordach no idea 17:49 Prestotron562_ Ohk 17:49 Peacock more relevant question would be when lol 17:49 Prestotron562_ I havent seen much difference between 0.4.6 and .4.8 17:50 Prestotron562_ *0.4.7 17:50 VanessaE Prestotron562_: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 17:51 VanessaE there's been a LOT of changes 17:51 e1z0 :O 17:51 e1z0 sfan5 can you share worlds converter ? 17:52 e1z0 minecraft>minetest 17:52 sfan5 e1z0: are you aware that it only support Minecraft classic? 17:52 e1z0 yeah 17:52 Peacock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY 17:53 Prestotron562_ Computer says no *coughs* 17:53 sfan5 e1z0: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007 its in the maps section of the forums 17:54 e1z0 it's not possible to convert the whole world ? 17:54 Jordach Prestotron562_, old news 17:55 Prestotron562_ Old news? What do you mean? 17:55 sfan5 e1z0: it is 17:55 e1z0 because if i try to to convert all the map selected objects mcedit becomes inresponsible 17:55 sfan5 well 17:55 sfan5 wait 17:55 sfan5 derp 17:55 sfan5 oops 17:55 sfan5 .. 17:55 sfan5 it DOES support Minecraft full version and you should do small chunks 17:56 Peacock dont you just hate irresponsible world editors :p 17:56 sfan5 do it in small chunks* 17:56 Prestotron562_ 7 min left for Python 17:56 e1z0 hmm 17:57 e1z0 if i press ctrl+a and select the whole territory, it does not work ? 17:57 Prestotron562_ Back to 20 min DX 17:57 e1z0 it will not work* 17:57 Prestotron562_ 13.4/19.3 MB 17:58 sfan5 e1z0: try to do it in smaller parts 17:58 e1z0 hmm 18:01 Prestotron562_ I think this is weird. Minetest doesnt have a register screen. 18:01 Prestotron562_ So how do you register? I just put in my usual account info and it worked 0-0 18:03 kaeza Prestotron562_, srsly? 18:03 Jordach Fun fact: i join different servers with different guises 18:03 Prestotron562_ kaeza, Yes. There is no registartion screen, but its pretty much, first time you login, is the time you register. 18:04 kaeza Prestotron562_, there's no centralized account system in MT 18:05 Prestotron562_ So hacking isnt even hacking, whats the point of a password if its just entering something random 18:06 Jordach sfan5, e1z0: it's possible with voxelmanip 18:06 e1z0 how ? 18:06 sfan5 Jordach: it would have to write a huge lua code chunk for that 18:07 sfan5 well no 18:07 sfan5 WorldEdit does support voxelmanip 18:07 Jordach and what does that filter export as...? 18:07 VanessaE Prestotron562_: you don't register, as such 18:07 sfan5 worldedit schematic 18:07 sfan5 e1z0: wait.. it freezes.. just wait until its done 18:07 VanessaE Prestotron562_: when you connect to a minetest server, you are creating an account on THAT server only. 18:08 Prestotron562_ Oh I see 18:08 VanessaE minetest doesn't depend on a central user registry 18:08 VanessaE some servers require passwords, some don't, but no server that I know of shares its user list with any other 18:08 VanessaE nor do they share worlds. 18:08 VanessaE (though it is possible) 18:09 Prestotron562_ How do you setup a server? I see you have a server up? 18:09 Jordach there should be a test: a server that has three identical worlds: with different mods, and such, but all of them have the same seexc 18:09 Jordach seed* 18:09 VanessaE it's pretty simple really - you just have to configure your router or modem to allow incoming connections, create a world like usual, then run the server program with the appropriate options to point to the new world. 18:10 VanessaE configuring your router/modem/firewall is the hard part 18:10 VanessaE as that varies from computer to computer 18:12 kahrl huh, I thought you were selling minetest you should know this stuff 18:12 Prestotron562_ Selling? 18:13 * Jordach high fives kahrl 18:14 Prestotron562_ Are you talking about the donations? 18:14 Prestotron562_ GTG bye 18:14 Jordach thank fuck, he's gone 18:15 nore bbl 18:15 Jordach one does not simply get a ping timeout of 0.001 seconds 18:17 OldCoder That seems rather strict 18:19 TheLastProject Jordach: If it doesn't start with "Quit: ", it's a personal quit message :P 18:19 Jordach TheLastProject, haha 18:50 * Jordach drops the bass 18:58 VanessaE when I drop the bass, people look at me funny....because of my choice in music :P 19:00 sethj http://i.imgur.com/2bsA2sO.jpg what I will do for mese... and it's not even rare lol. 19:01 VanessaE hardly. 19:02 VanessaE john_minetest: gimme a sec to find an example 19:04 * Jordach found 1/3 dubstep gun songs 19:04 Mati^1 hi all 19:04 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4bMOe_7Xg 19:05 Mati^1 I have a problem with Microsoft ACPI-konformes System help me !? :D pleace 19:05 Jordach Mati^1, sounds like a acpi driver issue to me 19:06 Mati^1 yes but i have driver oryginal mainboard and sound all ok and steel the same problem 19:06 Mati^1 an grafik to 19:06 VanessaE john_minetest: http://www.last.fm/music/Tomas+Danko/_/Comic+Bakery 19:06 VanessaE turn the bass up and hit "preview" 19:07 Mati^1 wow vanessa nice 19:08 VanessaE that's a remix done by Thomas Danko from a tune originally written for the Commodore 64 by Martin Galway 19:08 Mati^1 Daft Punk-Random Access Memories\12. Doin' It Right (feat. Panda Bear).mp3 19:08 VanessaE imagine this in a car with 600W of bass :D 19:08 Mati^1 i know this sound ;D 19:09 * VanessaE has a pair of 12's attached to a Pioneer 600W amp and Kenwood head unit 19:11 Calinou my 20€ headphones are very good, better than a 100€ one praised by reviews 19:12 Calinou that sounds like a weapon name lol 19:12 VanessaE john_minetest: if you want the whole thing, http://c64audio.com/productInfo.php?cat=C64CD2 (or torrent it if you have to) 19:12 VanessaE john_minetest: you use studio cans? 19:13 VanessaE john_minetest: heh, good luck finding it via youtube, I tried already :P 19:13 VanessaE john_minetest: well, yes actually. How the hell did you find it? 19:14 VanessaE your Google-fu is better than mine :) 19:14 PilzAdam I have exactly 200 posts less than Jordach 19:15 * PilzAdam creates a "PilzAdam counts to 200" topic ;-) 19:16 VanessaE hah 19:16 PilzAdam sfan5, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog&curid=366&diff=1506&oldid=1498&rcid=1626 19:16 PilzAdam wasnt color support in formspecs added after 0.4.7? 19:17 VanessaE !title 19:17 MinetestBot VanessaE: DjCode-Journey to the moon-[Journey EP] - YouTube 19:17 Jordach PilzAdam, don't make me use the code to sfan5's sfan5-bot 19:17 * VanessaE listens. 19:17 VanessaE ooooo 19:18 VanessaE interesting. 19:18 Jordach VanessaE, i use studio cans 19:18 Jordach i've also bought stronger neodynium magnets for improved bass 19:19 sfan5 PilzAdam: no? 19:19 sfan5 wait 19:19 Calinou lol, audiophile discussion 19:20 PilzAdam sfan5, it was added with Lua menu 19:20 VanessaE Calinou: a music lover listens to the music. an audiophile listens to the noise :P 19:20 PilzAdam 967121a34bbc60e6b46c7ec470b151f668ef1fef 19:21 PilzAdam sfan5, I guess color support belongs in a list of all the new formspec stuff that was added with Lua menu 19:21 PilzAdam feel free to write that list 19:21 Calinou an audiophile listens to the sound of his coins dropping on the floor, alternatively 19:21 VanessaE heh 19:23 VanessaE I just have a pair of low-end Altec Lansing speakers on the PC, no need to spend gobs of money on that 19:23 Peacock sennheiser 19:24 Peacock wasn't austria conquered by australia? 19:24 Peacock :P 19:27 Peacock well thats right up there with thinking canada is part of the usa lol 19:27 VanessaE the USA annexed it. 19:27 VanessaE :P 19:27 VanessaE (or so the government here would like) 19:27 Peacock impossible, our gov't gets shit done :P 19:27 VanessaE heh 19:27 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108711#p108711 19:28 VanessaE nice 19:59 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108735#p108735 19:59 PilzAdam WTF 19:59 PilzAdam why does this guy constantly post Minecraft mods and texture packs? 20:01 Jordach is this guy LM's retarded cousin or something 20:02 PilzAdam oh 20:02 PilzAdam he also double-posted: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108737#p108737 20:02 PilzAdam someone should consider to ban him 20:07 Calinou never use "retarded" as an insult 20:07 sfan5 PilzAdam wrote:\nIt only takes ~30 seconds for me.\nIt depends on the slowness of your computer. 20:07 sfan5 ^ lol 20:07 sfan5 s/lol/plol/ 20:08 * PilzAdam has a fast computer o/ 20:11 * Jordach too 20:12 iqualfragile PilzAdam: Sokomine should consider to react to my irc messages ;( 20:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: warned by PM. 20:13 Calinou iqualfragile: she is probably away 20:13 VanessaE (and instructed not to continue) 20:13 Calinou * [Sokomine] inactif 05:26:44 20:13 Calinou did not PM or say anything on a channel since 5:26 hours 20:13 Calinou (notices don't count) 20:13 Peacock you want a retarded post? check this one out in screenshots lol: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108746#p108746 20:13 iqualfragile i was about to say *inactive, then i remembered you are french 20:14 iqualfragile but ok, thanks 20:14 iqualfragile !seen jeija 20:14 MinetestBot iqualfragile: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around. 20:16 VanessaE bah, ninja'd by sfan5 by 30 seconds. 20:19 Jordach VanessaE, next time i'm on IRC, and at my girlfriends: mario kart wii? 20:19 VanessaE heh, you'll kick my ass :P 20:20 * sfan5 has Mario Kart wii too 20:20 Calinou super tux kart > mario kart 20:20 VanessaE besides, my WiFi is not set up properly (too lazy), so the Wii can't go online. 20:20 Peacock you need a new wifi unicorn 20:20 sfan5 Calinou: ack 20:20 Peacock lol 20:21 Peacock tux cart: graphics fucked up on *all* my rigs lol 20:21 Calinou tux cart is insanely old 20:21 Jordach smash bros. brawl anyone? 20:21 Jordach (i did PWN NekoGloop at it) 20:21 pitriss Hi, please I want to ask.. Is possible to disable fog from config? I used enable_fog = false but it doesn't work for me.. Should I try latest client or it is broken? 20:21 NekoGloop (I suck at brawl) 20:23 kaeza pitriss, I think F3 does it 20:24 pitriss kaeza: yep that works.. but.. i wnated to switch that off by default.. 20:24 Jordach VanessaE, TORCS 20:24 VanessaE please, I suck even worse at that than at mario kart. 20:24 VanessaE (I used to be good at Gran Turismo 1 back on the PSX, though) 20:28 NekoGloop (I still suck at brawl) 20:29 NekoGloop I don't even remember playing against you, but I know I suck at brawl 20:30 Calinou how about Stunt Rally :-d 20:31 Jordach NekoGloop, i beat you with Captain Falcon, 'nuff said 20:32 NekoGloop Captain Falcon isn't that bad, unless there's something I don't know 20:32 * Jordach has beaten mortal kombat on the highest difficulty 20:36 Jordach wtf 20:36 Jordach youtube stopped audio skipping in chrome 20:38 NekoGloop ? 20:38 Jordach youtube normally cracks and pops 20:38 Jordach it's gone, which shouldn't have happened 20:38 NekoGloop ... ? 20:39 NekoGloop I've... not ever had a problem? 20:39 Jordach oh, there it is 20:39 NekoGloop What are you even talking about? 20:40 Jordach NekoGloop, youtube in the browser doesn't work correctly for me, even with HTML5 enabled 20:41 NekoGloop you're insane 20:42 khonkhortisan enable realtime audio if it can handle it 20:42 sfan5 Jordach: i have a bot over in ##mt-irc-mod that executes lua code from IRC 20:42 Peacock html5 youtube is pretty sucky yeah 20:43 Jordach even flash player garbles 20:43 Peacock at least it played the right video 20:43 Jordach this is like listening to a scratched CD 20:43 Peacock half the time i load a new page, it replays the last video, that's when it loads 20:43 Peacock there also used to be this mode/size between small and fullscreen that miss 20:43 Peacock *i miss 20:44 TheUniversalBuil Hello 20:44 TheUniversalBuil ? 20:45 khonkhortisan what is a buil? 20:45 TheUniversalBuil What are the differences between normal mesecon and insulated mesecon/? 20:45 TheUniversalBuil builder 20:45 VanessaE an insulated one won't connect to other mesecons wires. 20:45 khonkhortisan you can have multiple lines of wires right next to each other 20:45 TheUniversalBuil cant fit whole gamer tag 20:46 VanessaE you can run multiple parallel lines 20:46 khonkhortisan uninsulated autoconnect 20:46 sfan5 TheUniversalBuil: the insulated mesecons doesn't connect to other if not directly placed in line with other insulated wires 20:46 VanessaE you can build much more compact circuits with them 20:46 khonkhortisan any turns or intersections must be placed manually 20:46 Peacock couldnt you just have one set of wires and toggle autoconnect? 20:47 TheUniversalBuil so normal mesecons will have a circuit if placed || adjacent 20:47 sfan5 yes 20:47 TheUniversalBuil but insulated mesecone wont if placed adjacent || right? 20:47 khonkhortisan possibly, but where would you store autoconnect? per-node, or per-player? 20:47 Peacock an array and a chat command would be simplest 20:47 TheUniversalBuil Per node? 20:48 Peacock if autoconnect[playername] then autoconnect(pos) something like that 20:48 TheUniversalBuil Thanks for the help guys :D 20:48 khonkhortisan that would use insulated wires, to keep them from continually autoconnecting 20:49 Peacock does an abm run on the wires to autoconnect? 20:49 TheUniversalBuil ok 20:49 khonkhortisan it's an on-place 20:49 sfan5 good night everyone 20:49 Peacock yeah so a simple table should do it 20:49 khonkhortisan that searches immediate neighbors 20:49 VanessaE well rather than one set of wires, keep the two sets and use shift while you place an insulated to decide if they autoconnect 20:50 Peacock defeats the purpose of reducing the number of redundant nodes :p 20:50 khonkhortisan But shift is already used to build in the air from a lµaController 20:50 VanessaE oh. 20:50 khonkhortisan we don't have enough nodes yet, I can't have a bunch of wires, then turn them vertical all at the same time, then angle them horizontal again. 20:51 khonkhortisan I have to have every other one turn early 20:51 khonkhortisan But I build insulated 20:51 VanessaE is it possible to detect 'cave air'? 20:52 Peacock lol well im trying to cut down on the # of nodes on my game (from over 1K to 700 now) - old computers and performance and all 20:52 khonkhortisan what do you mean? 20:52 VanessaE khonkhortisan: just what I mean - is it possible to detect air that's only present in a cave? 20:52 khonkhortisan actually, don't wires use more nodes than insulated? 20:53 VanessaE Peacock: only 1k? pfft. I think my game has somewhere north of 5k 20:53 khonkhortisan if you can tie to the world generation 20:53 khonkhortisan She uses color nodes 20:53 Peacock im surprised old computers can even log on :P over 1K and the p4 has trouble doing all the inventory images 20:55 Peacock though with upside-down placement i was able to remove over 300 nodes (same nodebox done in different directions) 20:55 TheUniversalBuil differences between lever, switches, buttons on the effect of mesecons? 20:55 TheUniversalBuil *what are 20:56 sfan5 you can toggle level and switches on/off 20:56 sfan5 the button just stays on for 1.5 secs when pressed 20:56 TheUniversalBuil oh 20:57 TheUniversalBuil so the machine stays on for 1 second if a button is used to turn it on? 20:57 TheUniversalBuil wait nvm 20:57 TheUniversalBuil i get it 20:57 TheUniversalBuil thanks 20:59 jojoa1997 is replacements in recipe (item in, item out)? 21:01 TheUniversalBuil if a node breaker break breaks a node where does the node go? 21:06 TheUniversalBuil nvm 21:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:25 khonkhortisan no one is here 21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:27 Jordach Prestotron562, that's because NOT everyone lives in the US 21:27 kaeza can someone explain? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108767#p108767 21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:27 Jordach and they have lobs 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:28 khonkhortisan s/threw/through 21:28 Jordach kaeza, there's several posts in trash with the identical content 21:28 Jordach ^ VanessaE 21:29 khonkhortisan shema is part of the hebrew bible? 21:29 khonkhortisan I think "you got linux so you might want minecraft" is the main point 21:29 Jordach moved it to trash 21:30 kaeza I read that as "Cracked Minecraft" or smth 21:30 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:30 Jordach kaeza, the sae 21:30 Jordach same 21:30 khonkhortisan I only play daily if I am working on a large project 21:30 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:31 khonkhortisan Where am I in that percentage if I don't have minecraft? 21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:31 khonkhortisan I neither use it or can quit it 21:31 khonkhortisan *nor 21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:32 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:32 Jordach Prestotron562, from an average downloads, 100,000 for 0.3.1, 40,000 for all current 0.4.x series 21:33 Jordach those are totals; not to be confused with average 21:33 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:33 khonkhortisan Your use of minetest, whether on the internet or locally, means you allow us to track you as one of the number of people playing currently. 21:33 Jordach daily average, that depends 21:34 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:35 Jordach people might have jobs, chores, holiday events, and other influences 21:35 Jordach a simple way to do this would be to ping a server with the version you use to get a telemetric of users currently playing minetest 21:36 Jordach and on client close, the client pings again to signal that the client is dead 21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:36 Jordach the ping should only contain the version number and operating system, which can be turned off and on again 21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:39 TheUniversalBuil whats the differernce between using copper cables and mesecons? 21:40 TheUniversalBuil well whats the difference with using them and mesecons 21:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:44 VanessaE khonkhortisan: sh'ma or shema, "listen". 21:44 VanessaE (alternatively, "hark", "hear", etc.) 21:45 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:45 TheUniversalBuil OHHH 21:45 TheUniversalBuil Thanks guys 21:45 khonkhortisan My calculator doesn't work because I used digilines for the digits. 21:46 VanessaE as for the rest of his mixed-up post, I dunno wtf he's talkign about 21:46 TheUniversalBuil but for mesecons you said it doesnt need a power source to run 21:46 TheUniversalBuil twhat do you mean by that? 21:47 VanessaE mesecons are self-powered. 21:47 khonkhortisan A wire can either be on or off. 21:47 VanessaE a switch is, itself, a power source 21:47 khonkhortisan Off wire NAND off wire = on wire 21:47 VanessaE imagine that each switch, wall lever, button, gate, controller, etc has a small battery in it. 21:47 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:47 VanessaE when a switch, gate, etc. turns on, it routes that battery's infinite supply of power to the wire 21:47 VanessaE he doesn't come online here 21:47 khonkhortisan off wire + NOT gate = on wire, + NOT gate = off wire 21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:48 VanessaE but you can find him elsewhere often around 5 or 6am EST. 21:48 khonkhortisan wire + NOT gate + same wire = alternator 21:48 TheUniversalBuil oh 21:48 VanessaE he doesn't like receiving email at all. 21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:48 VanessaE *am* 21:48 VanessaE and I guess you have to leave a message on the forum or something 21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:49 VanessaE it's complicated. 21:49 VanessaE better you should ask him when you get his ear. 21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:49 VanessaE #minetest-dev but don't chit-chat on that channel 21:49 VanessaE it's just the way he is :-/ 21:50 TheUniversalBuil so you dont need an energy source for mesecon. you only need a switch and mesecon to power a machine, right? 21:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:51 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:52 PilzAdam webchat is muted in -deb 21:52 PilzAdam *dev 21:53 PilzAdam btw, I think all your e-mails go into his spam folder 21:53 Jordach Prestotron562, just leave him alone 21:53 Jordach that's the *BEST* thing you can do 21:54 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:56 VanessaE oh yeah, forgot about the mute 21:56 VanessaE it's just as well 21:56 VanessaE you don't want to talk to c55 anyway 21:57 VanessaE anything you could direct at him really can be directed at most of the other devs too since it's a team project 21:57 khonkhortisan TheUniversalBuil, You only need a switch (and the optional mesecon in between) to turn the machine on. It doesn't power it. 21:57 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:57 khonkhortisan If it's a technic machine, it may also need power. 21:58 khonkhortisan I like how mese darkens instead of brightens now, it makes it seem more like an unnatural wire 22:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:01 proller need to remove server_address = - its not for all 22:12 khonkhortisan doesn't it only go up to 255? 22:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:32 PilzAdam ... 22:34 kahrl ··· 22:39 PilzAdam Kubuntu FTW 22:41 kaeza no, Puppy :3 22:41 kaeza :< 22:42 kaeza I tried TinyCore today... the thing looks good so far 22:43 kaeza only use it to host a webserver though :P 22:43 PilzAdam john_minetest, you are doing it wrong 22:43 PilzAdam the point is to not agree with others 22:43 jojoa1997 hi 22:43 kaeza jojoa1997, no u 22:44 kaeza wat 22:44 jojoa1997 hay how come my icon for github changed 22:44 kaeza john_minetest, in Puppy you are always root, beat that 22:45 PilzAdam in Windows you are always root, too 22:45 Tiktalik PilzAdam: Not really, in Windows 7 you have to give administrator permission specifically to mess with some things 22:45 PilzAdam even if you are not root, viruses can still get root 22:46 Tiktalik but yeah 22:46 Tiktalik anything that could yoink the mouse control from you 22:46 kaeza wat is root 22:47 PilzAdam Windows admin thing just restricts users, not the malware 22:47 kaeza http://linuxgazette.net/173/misc/grebler/your-mouse-has-moved.png 22:48 kaeza ironically, I originally saw that image for the first time bundled with a MS-DOS web browser :< 22:50 PilzAdam is anyone interested in testing the stone monster in Pilztest? 22:53 kaeza http://www.glennmcc.org/arachne/ 22:55 * VanessaE pokes bas080 23:10 kahrl PilzAdam, now that I found some food I will 23:11 PilzAdam how long have you searched? 23:12 Peacock mothereffing hipsters - they used to grow mushrooms here, now theyre growing on their own on the melamine by the fridge :/ 23:13 VanessaE oh my 23:13 Peacock little brown ones 23:13 VanessaE perhaps you should turn on the de-humidifier 23:13 Peacock they look like the kind you get at the grocery store 23:13 kahrl PilzAdam: I'm at -276/1687 23:14 kahrl took several in game days, walking mostly straight north through ocean and forests 23:14 PilzAdam sounds like fun when you get slower and slower due to hunger 23:14 kahrl yeah :P 23:15 kahrl I did it immediately after I respawned though so I didn't slow down 23:16 PilzAdam I never had to walk that far to find pumpkins 23:17 kahrl at least they grow fast so now I have infinite 23:18 PilzAdam are you on the mobs branch yet? 23:18 kahrl yup 23:22 Tiktalik Peacock: perhaps you should eat them, 23:22 Tiktalik nothing could possibly go wrong 23:23 Peacock thinking of simply ripping out that plank of melamine 23:23 Tiktalik /nick I_GIVE_BAD_ADVICE 23:23 Peacock all it does is hide the back of the fridge 23:23 Peacock which honestly, is bad for ventilation 23:23 Tiktalik bleach it 23:24 Peacock did that 23:24 Tiktalik how long 23:24 Peacock then put a mountain of salt in the area 23:24 Peacock going to the landlords' tomorrow, either they take the plank out or i will lol 23:25 Tiktalik ah, good 23:25 Peacock when i was applying bleach, the plank itself was crumbling in my sponge 23:25 Peacock im pretty sure the landlord will be partial to removing the plank before the whole cabinets have to be re-done lol 23:27 Peacock otherwise like i said, im pretty good with *accidental* damage hehe 23:47 TheUniversalBuil How do i power my extractor? 23:49 TheUniversalBuil ? 23:53 VanessaE andersje: awake?