Time  Nick            Message
00:09 jojoa1997       back
00:14 harrison        The Zoloft bug, the Pristiq doll and the Abilify umbrella walk into a bar. The bartender says "Hey! I recognize you guys from TV! I went through a bad depression a few years ago and every drug my doctor tried gave me sexual side effects. Frankly, your ads are misleading, and no genitalless kawaii floating ovoid, prim little clockwork, or notetaking umbrella sidekick at an applepicking picnic can change that."
00:14 harrison        The Pristiq doll replies "Oh yeah? How's this for a sexual side effect?"
00:14 harrison        "F*** YOU!"
00:22 jojoa1997       so on a happy note
00:22 jojoa1997       whats up
01:08 PilzAdam        bye
01:18 aldobr          hi all
03:04 Mossmanikin     bye, later
04:46 VanessaE        quiet night ...
05:20 nore            hi all
05:21 VanessaE        I think it's just us, everyone's asleep/afk
05:22 nore            ah, ok
05:37 Miner_48er      what happens when reactor core reaches 0%
05:37 Miner_48er      *?
05:42 VanessaE        it runs out?
05:42 VanessaE        I'd assume the reactor just shuts down
05:43 Miner_48er      ok
05:43 Miner_48er      thx
05:45 VanessaE        kaeza: *poke*
06:16 khonkhortisan   it might just keep cooling itself
06:27 VanessaE        bbl
06:27 sfan5           hi everyone
07:16 khonkhortisan   Huh. I just realized I pulled a cornernote in another game, but they convinced me not to let them ban me.
07:16 khonkhortisan   Is worldedit gui dead?
07:52 diemartin       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108320#p108320
07:52 diemartin       :I
08:26 djdduty         I am trying to think up ways of handling biomes and such, I figure here is a good place to ask.(from dev, I realize that is a more serious chat...)
08:26 djdduty         Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could point me at a ton of terrain generation resources using perlin noise. ^
08:52 sfan5           :/
08:53 sfan5           khonkhortisan: yes
09:32 nore            jin_xi: I have an idea for turtles
09:32 nore            you could make villages with them
10:25 Jordach         MinetestBot!
10:25 MinetestBot     Jordach!
10:25 * Jordach       pets MinetestBot
10:25 Jordach         i know you're there sfan5
10:25 sfan5           yes I am
10:30 proller         nore, in next now enabled stone flowing, teleport to -30000 and MEEELT 8)
10:30 proller         ups, stone melting
10:31 proller         now without nodeupdate and fast
10:31 proller         AND!!
10:31 proller         sand flowing!
10:32 proller         no more sand pillars!
10:34 Mati^1          hi
10:37 nore            sand flowing???
10:38 Jordach         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108340#p108340
10:43 VanessaE        stone melting?
10:43 VanessaE        heh
10:44 Jordach         hey VanessaE
10:44 VanessaE        hi
10:55 proller         nore, not like liquid, its stay solid block, but jumping down if can
10:55 proller         can try on sky server
11:06 Jordach         hello bas080
11:06 bas080          Hey Jordach
11:06 Jordach         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108340#p108340
11:06 Jordach         ^ might wanna see that
11:08 bas080          cool. keeping it 16x16px?
11:08 Jordach         yes
11:08 Jordach         smoothed lrfurn, mmm
11:08 Jordach         might call it smooth'd
11:09 Jordach         smooth'd(efault)
11:10 Jordach         say fucking what!? clementine is burning 50% of cpu time
11:11 Jordach         better, lowered the audio buffer, changed output
11:14 bas080          i was wondering if it is possible to get node meta data using voxelmanip. I want to make a tool that removes all nodes placed by a defined player.
11:14 Jordach         bas080, /rollback <player>
11:14 Jordach         if rollback is enabled
11:15 bas080          nice!
11:15 Jordach         drop a bucket of lava? no problem!
11:15 Jordach         it clears the source AND the flowing
11:15 bas080          so how can i see if rollback is enabled?
11:15 Jordach         it's a conf setting
11:15 bas080          rollback = true?
11:15 bas080          and can i set it after the map has been made?
11:16 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:16 Jordach         https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L248
11:16 bas080          Hey PilzAdam
11:16 Jordach         bas080, ^
11:16 Jordach         the rollback log can be used at any time
11:17 bas080          Ok ty Jordach
11:17 Jordach         bas080, be warned, it likes to use lots of hard disk space
11:17 bas080          i am
11:18 Jordach         VanessaE's server had horror
11:18 Jordach         that*
11:19 VanessaE        ?
11:20 Jordach         where the rollback log filled your drive
11:20 VanessaE        oh, no it never did that.
11:21 VanessaE        it got pretty big, but never filled the drive
11:21 VanessaE        redcrab's logs did that once I think, though
11:21 VanessaE        but that was the debug log, not rollback
11:26 bas080          so what if some one started fixing the nodes that you want to apply rollback to. What happens to the nodes that where changed after the "troll" did his work?
11:29 Jordach         if they were replaced, they return to what they were
11:29 Jordach         before the troll made improvements
11:30 Jordach         so if i mined some coal, that coal would go back into that cave as if i never mined it
11:31 bas080          cool. and if i dirtified a house and the owner of the house digged it out and placed a table in his house the table would be gone
11:31 Jordach         if you rolledback his actions
11:31 Jordach         yes.
11:31 bas080          and if i rollback my actions
11:31 Jordach         the house returns to normal
11:32 bas080          with or without table?
11:32 Jordach         without, he never dug out his house
11:32 proller         calinou destroys 8000+ blocks on my server, and rollback was disabled ;(
11:32 Jordach         nor did he place the table, as you just said
11:33 bas080          Jordach, awesome
11:37 Jordach         Minetest Classic just got this: http://stuff.ltmnet.com/images/mtc-hotbar.png
12:08 jin_xi          nore: sorry, been afk... but yes you could make villages with it... or castles or whatever really
12:38 nore            hi Calinou
12:39 nore            btw, have you looked at my pull request?
12:40 Calinou         where?
12:41 Calinou         calinou_mods is obsolete by the way
12:41 nore            moreores
13:00 bas080          special group bouncy isn't working like it should. When holding jump i get shot up at a value that is way to large. I can show you on the nyan server where the nodes bouncy value is 20
13:07 Calinou         set jumpable to false
13:44 DanDuncombe     VanessaE, can you please update the tbm mod on your server? I have added the alternate recipe changes like you said, and finally moved it to github. Here is the github download link: https://github.com/DanDuncombe/tbm_mod/archive/master.zip
13:45 DanDuncombe     There are also a couple of other changes
13:47 DanDuncombe     The nodebox is finally satisfactory too
13:52 DanDuncombe     What time is it wherever VanessaE is?
14:12 PilzAdam        bbl
14:51 DanDuncombe     Is VanessaE awake yet?
15:06 thexyz          https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108377#p108377
15:07 DanDuncombe     Lol
15:08 DanDuncombe     Is VanessaE there?
15:10 thexyz          no
15:11 DanDuncombe     Will she be awake soon?
15:35 jojoa1997       I get this when i run technic
15:35 jojoa1997       mods\technic\technic\init.lua:
15:35 jojoa1997       10:36:19: ERROR[main]: C++ exception
15:35 jojoa1997       and up until the dofile(modpath) stuff it work fine
15:39 hmmmm           hrmm
15:39 hmmmm           http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EPFKL0A/
15:39 hmmmm           samsung 840 250gb for 48 gbp
15:40 jojoa1997       can anyone answer my problem
15:42 thexyz          hmmmm: what's the catch?
15:43 hmmmm           well you have to be from england to have sane shipping charges
15:43 Calinou         obvious mistake = they can take it back
15:43 nore            Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreores/pull/2
15:44 Calinou         merged
15:44 thexyz          Calinou: ah, okay
15:45 Calinou         well it depends on countries
15:45 nore            Zeg9, do items in item frames re-appear when you do /clearobjects?
15:46 jin_xi          so i am still wondering about what would be a sane way to use decorations to find places to spawn turtles.
15:53 jojoa1997       So i am using the game from VanessaE's(one on her server) and everytime i load it i get somekind of error saying"C++ Exception". Now does anyone know what it means? I have only found the bug in gloopblocks and technic. <ight it be because i am using windoews  or maybe my C++ is out of date?
15:54 Exio4           C++ is the language
15:55 Peacock         you need to buy a new copy of C++
15:57 jojoa1997       i know but why does it happen
15:57 Exio4           it is available for only 350USD+shipping!
15:57 jojoa1997       also i cant but C++
15:57 jojoa1997       anyways isnt C++ free?
15:57 jojoa1997       since i already have it on my computer
15:58 Exio4           if you know what it is you can't be seriously asking that jojoa
15:58 Exio4           it is the language
15:58 Exio4           *and only the language*
15:58 Exio4           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_plus_plus
15:59 DanDuncombe     jojoa1997,  You need to adjust your client specially to cope with the sheer  number of nodes. I can't remember what you have to change, ask VanessaE
16:00 DanDuncombe     Can a moderator move my TBM reloaded mod to mod releases please?
16:01 jojoa1997       ok
16:01 jojoa1997       does that mean compileing stuff
16:02 DanDuncombe     I don't know
16:02 Peacock         you have to compile the latest Assembly
16:04 Peacock         effing sweet: http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/montreal/201308/31/01-4685039-la-conference-islamiste-de-montreal-est-annulee.php
16:04 DanDuncombe     Will a moderator move the TBM Reloaded mod?
16:04 jojoa1997       DAn
16:05 jojoa1997       DanDuncombe you have to ask in the topic move section in the forum
16:05 DanDuncombe     Not necessacrily
16:05 DanDuncombe     I have asked here for pretty much all of my mods
16:06 jojoa1997       yeah but it is better fro the forum
16:06 jojoa1997       you ask once and they will move it
16:06 DanDuncombe     They sometimes take weeks to move though
16:06 jojoa1997       also when no moderator is on irc which will never happen probably then they can still move it
16:06 jojoa1997       not lately and if it doesnt move one day ask the next
16:07 DanDuncombe     I have asked now
16:08 Peacock         dude, i once waited 3-4 weeks, be patient :p
16:08 DanDuncombe     I waited 2 billion years
16:09 * jojoa1997     10 minutes later...Is it there yst?.....10 minutes later.....Is it there yet?.....wash,rinse,repeat
16:09 DanDuncombe     Is it moved yet?
16:09 Peacock         besides even the american moderators are on european time :p
16:09 DanDuncombe     Is it moved yet?
16:10 DanDuncombe     I won't ask again
16:10 DanDuncombe     A nice screeny of VanessaE's survival server: http://s9.postimg.org/84jm2zw3z/screenshot_89644473.png
16:11 jojoa1997       yeah
16:11 jojoa1997       Peacock if VanessaE was up at normal times(aka my times) i would be able to ask atm
16:12 DanDuncombe     Shows most good stuff,except for twoelk's awesome castle
16:12 jojoa1997       it is noon in our time
16:12 jojoa1997       but her sleep schedual is all over the place
16:12 DanDuncombe     It is 5:15 PM my time
16:12 Peacock         seems very few of us in N.A. actually sleep at night lol
16:12 DanDuncombe     She sleeps whenever she is tired
16:12 Peacock         hell even i can get by on 3-4 hours sleep for weeks on end lol
16:13 jojoa1997       NA?
16:13 jojoa1997       oh north america
16:13 jojoa1997       well VanessaE doesnt have a job outside of her house(haveing to drive to work) or something so she pretty much is on her own schedual
16:14 Peacock         and im on contract so lol doesn't matter when i get shit done
16:14 Peacock         though the neighbours find it weird when i work through the night and drink at 9am lol
16:15 DanDuncombe     WHAT THE FUCK??? http://s18.postimg.org/592akz3c9/screenshot_109840807.png
16:15 Peacock         ah, the unknown biome
16:15 DanDuncombe     A biomeof unknown nodess...
16:15 DanDuncombe     Kinda random
16:16 Peacock         we need more biomes in general, there's gotta be more to earth than plain dirt/desert/jungle
16:16 DanDuncombe     Tundra for a start
16:16 DanDuncombe     Then grassy plains
16:16 DanDuncombe     Then, mud deserts
16:16 Peacock         epic valleys and plateaus
16:16 DanDuncombe     Proper mountains
16:17 Peacock         yes
16:19 DanDuncombe     The forum is boring right now
16:19 Peacock         when is it not?
16:19 DanDuncombe     At my midnight
16:20 DanDuncombe     Carts of some form need to be added to defautlt
16:21 Calinou         cats, too
16:27 jojoa1997       Calinou already done
16:27 jojoa1997       nyan cat
16:30 jin_xi          so, if you're bored and looking for biomes, try this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108059#p108059
16:35 DanDuncombe     ShadowNinja, you maintain the Technic rewrite branch, which VanessaE uses, correct?
16:39 thexyz          jin_xi: all those *~ files
16:40 nore            Calinou, you need to update the license on the topic
16:41 Calinou         ok
16:41 nore            that was fast ;)
16:43 jin_xi          well, fuckin emacs
16:45 * Calinou       uses geany
16:45 * Peacock       uses calinou
16:45 Calinou         nano if I absolutely need to use CLI
16:47 thexyz          nano sucks
16:47 Calinou         it does, yes
17:28 MinetestBot     GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix bug in pathfinder causing endless loop in some situations 5d0f19fd7d 2013-08-31T10:26:51-07:00 http://git.io/LxhnUw
18:03 * NekoGloop     noms MinetestBot
18:05 kahrl           are pumpkins ever spawned in pilztest?
18:06 Peacock         only on halloween :p
18:12 jojoa1997       /time set halloween
18:13 jin_xi          /time 25 DEC
18:13 PilzAdam        kahrl, yes, in forests
18:14 nore            25 DEC = 31 OCT
18:15 kahrl           PilzAdam: I can't find any
18:15 jojoa1997       jin_xi DEC 25 is christmass for me
18:15 PilzAdam        then keep searching ;-)
18:15 * jojoa1997     hopes holoween doesnt take over christmass
18:16 jojoa1997       does anyone know how to saise the max nuber of nodes your game can have?
18:17 nore            you need to edit a file, and then recompile
18:17 jojoa1997       that stinks
18:17 nore            VanessaE has the manip explained somewhere
18:17 jojoa1997       maybe minetest should raise it by default
18:17 jojoa1997       cause i cant compile and i want here game
18:32 jojoa1997       so is anything new going to be added to minetest_game
18:40 nore            Do you remember the discussion about the size of a KB a few weeks ago?
18:41 nore            I have the answer: http://xkcd.com/394/
19:10 MinetestBot     GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Use wstring for vertlabels 71a6ffa762 2013-08-31T12:07:53-07:00 http://git.io/wjIyAA
19:29 DanDuncombe     Is there any way of setting a collisionbox for a node?
19:31 DanDuncombe     Is there?
19:39 DanDuncombe     Hellooooooooo?
19:44 DanDuncombe     Is anyone there??
19:44 Calinou         DanDuncombe: ask your question
19:44 DanDuncombe     Is there any way of setting a collisionbox for a node?
19:45 DanDuncombe     Because my nodebox is way bigger than normal node size
19:45 Calinou         collision box is linked to node :/
19:45 DanDuncombe     In fact, 3x3x5
19:46 DanDuncombe     But collision only seems to be up to half a node beyond normal node size
19:46 Calinou         terrible hack: use an ABM or such (look at doors mod) to put a walkable, invisible nodebox node above a non-walkable and visible nodebox node
19:46 Calinou         offset it, and use it as collision box
19:48 DanDuncombe     Also, with my tbm reloaded mod, should it use tbm:floor as flooring as it does currently, or go back to the cheaper but uglier cobblestone,which it can get whilst mining?
19:49 DanDuncombe     Or should it use whatever is in the floor slot?
19:49 DanDuncombe     Or, should it use unlimited floor nodes, but they don't drop anything when broken?
19:50 DanDuncombe     I think I should switch back to cobble.
20:11 khonkhortisan   Minetest lets me choose the mapgen and the mods, it should also let me choose mg_flags so I create a flat world
20:35 Evergreen       *phew*   It's nice to be back
20:35 Evergreen       I was on an overnight hiking trip
20:36 PilzAdam        Evergreen, FYI, there is a mobs branch at Pilztest now
20:36 PilzAdam        it currently contains only a stone monster
20:51 DanDuncombe     Can someone give me an abm or whatever to make tbm:tbm emit a particle at 1 second intervals with a smoke texture, that slowly floats upwards and disappears after ~5 seconds?
20:51 DanDuncombe     Sorry to be a bore
20:51 DanDuncombe     (no pun intended)
20:54 DanDuncombe     Also, should I remove rails placement from tbm, and make it a slot to put the drill instead?
20:55 DanDuncombe     Actually, I won't
20:55 DanDuncombe     Can a node force-load chunks around itself?
20:56 DanDuncombe     sfan5, do you know
20:56 proller         search pull about it
20:56 DanDuncombe     Errm?
20:57 proller         Novatux:forceload		https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606
20:58 DanDuncombe     But, can nodes use it?
21:05 jin_xi          small generated castle type thing: http://i.imgur.com/NsVMaFy.png
21:06 proller         need bigger! more! random! elements
21:06 jin_xi          boring as fuck, but im going for the low hanging fruit now...
21:06 proller         to autobuild great city
21:06 jin_xi          yeah, im trying to do this... atm only random rotation done.
21:08 jin_xi          but somehow i think ppl dont like big and nice generated stuff... maybe cause it makes their builds look lame?
21:09 proller         maybe multi level intersections of 5-10 house blocks can produce something intresting
21:16 jin_xi          hey kaeza
21:17 kaeza           o/
21:17 kaeza           evenings
21:22 proller         john_minetest, i want something automatic with lot of params
21:24 proller         skyscraper == big city  but with big Y and small area
21:29 jin_xi          turtle mod does this, http://imgur.com/a/kZzu1 but buildings should not be a problem
21:33 jojoa1997       <john_minetest> jojoa1997: Hi, did your atomar reactor work?: Nope i have finished building it i am too low on iron
21:33 jojoa1997       i have not
21:35 jojoa1997       yeah that was just to test the blowing up radius to see if it is too close to my place on survival
21:35 jojoa1997       also VanessaE is offline atm(bad storms i think) so i cant really go on to collect more iron
21:36 jojoa1997       is anyone working on biomes atm
21:36 jojoa1997       is anyone working on biomes atm
21:36 jojoa1997       sorry didnt update
21:40 jojoa1997       ?
21:43 jojoa1997       um
21:43 jojoa1997       is there any way to reduce lag from my lan server?
21:44 khonkhortisan   QoS
21:57 OldCoder        Hey
22:01 OldCoder        Ah
22:01 OldCoder        Glad to hear it
22:01 * OldCoder      look forward to LevelDB integration
22:01 OldCoder        sdzen hi
22:01 OldCoder        *looks forward
22:01 OldCoder        I'll need the revert to make old worlds compatible or I ain't upgrading
22:05 OldCoder        john_minetest, Whatever seems best
22:07 VanessaE        hi all
22:42 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
22:42 kaeza           hey grog
22:42 thefamilygrog66 I have a question about sounds
22:43 iqualfragile    hi kids
22:43 thefamilygrog66 hey
22:44 thefamilygrog66 hey john
22:45 kaeza           just ask
22:47 VanessaE        thefamilygrog66: *poke*
22:48 thefamilygrog66 howdy V
22:48 VanessaE        lrfurn has HDX support now :)
22:48 thefamilygrog66 what does that mean? haha
22:49 VanessaE        my texture pack, silly :)
22:50 thefamilygrog66 ahh, gotcha
22:50 thefamilygrog66 cool! such a hassle making that many textures...
22:51 VanessaE        actually once I came up with a good template for the couches, it became pretty easy
22:51 thefamilygrog66 hey, lua uses pseudo-random for math.random, correct?
22:51 VanessaE        your original textures were helpful to that end.  I..um...*ahem* borrowed the contour shading (from the grey items) :-)
22:51 thefamilygrog66 right on
22:52 thefamilygrog66 wtfpl!
22:52 VanessaE        :)
22:53 thefamilygrog66 if I want a sound to be generated on random punches/clicks, what would be the simplest way to do it?
22:53 kaeza           math.random()
22:53 thefamilygrog66 that's pseudo-random though, no?
22:54 kaeza           if math.random(1, 100) == 1 then --[[ play sound ]] end
22:54 thefamilygrog66 thanks, I'll try that
22:54 kaeza           that's for a 1% chance
22:54 thefamilygrog66 exactly
22:54 VanessaE        or better, a=math.random(1,10);  if a == 1 then --[[play a sound]] elseif a==2 then --[[play a different sound]] end
22:54 VanessaE        for as many sounds as you want
22:55 VanessaE        basically, the brute-force way :P
22:55 thefamilygrog66 heads need screams. occasionally.
22:55 thefamilygrog66 :)
22:55 VanessaE        oh G*d
22:55 thefamilygrog66 muahaha
22:56 kaeza           thefamilygrog66, what is "pseudo-random"? (in this context)
22:57 VanessaE        less random than thermal noise :P
22:57 thefamilygrog66 I just read that, kaeza - in other words, it's not really random unless you add a math.randomseed based on the time, or something like that
22:58 kaeza           VanessaE, hah
22:58 kaeza           thefamilygrog66, FWIW, all (?) computer algorithms for generating random numbers are "pseudo random" :P
22:59 kaeza           (unless you seed it with a hash of LM's messages)
22:59 thefamilygrog66 good enough for me
22:59 thefamilygrog66 now I just need to record some err...sounds. o_O
23:00 thefamilygrog66 hey miner
23:01 kaeza           in general, thoguh, it's recommended to use math.random() for all things except terrain generation, which should use PseudoRandom class {{cn}}
23:02 kaeza           though*
23:03 kaeza           anyway, back to adding something to the next technic (a.k.a. homedecor :P)
23:04 VanessaE        haha
23:04 VanessaE        didn't I add config options to turn off some components of homedecor?
23:05 kaeza           yup... but still I can't get off my head the idea of splitting the thing into a modpack
23:06 kahrl           randomizing sound effects is built in by the way
23:06 kahrl           just add a number to the file name
23:06 VanessaE        oh I forgot about that
23:11 thefamilygrog66 random "OW" sound mission successful, hahaha
23:11 thefamilygrog66 now I need to records more sounds
23:12 thefamilygrog66 kahrl, what's the syntax for randomizing sound effects?
23:12 kahrl           https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L199
23:13 kahrl           though keep in mind each client randomized the sound on its own
23:13 kahrl           so if several players hear the sound each may hear a different one
23:13 kahrl           randomizes*
23:13 thefamilygrog66 sweet, that makes it very easy - thanks
23:14 thefamilygrog66 don't have to change the file name now
23:15 kaeza           just grab your favorite sound editor and make 10 copies at different pitches
23:15 kaeza           "I gave that pitch a change, pitches love changes" :P
23:18 thefamilygrog66 audacity
23:19 thefamilygrog66 Simonster's getting a kick out of the heads randomly yelling/grunting when hit
23:27 thefamilygrog66 thanks for the info, folks!
23:32 Exio4           a=math.random(1,10);  if a == 1 then --[[play a sound]] elseif a==2 then --[[play a different sound]] end
23:32 Exio4           i would use an array
23:32 Exio4           sounds[x] with the data and x being 1-10
23:32 Exio4           or so
23:54 VanessaE        Exio4: or do what kahrl said
23:56 Exio4           yeah, but for the bruteforce way