Time Nick Message 00:13 andersje wow. lotta splits today 00:14 andersje or just people quitting 00:14 Exio4 people quitting 00:14 NekoGloopMkII quitters 00:35 xiong Open-face cheeseburger? 00:48 * jojoa1997 is not a quiter but a sleeper cya 00:51 jojoa1997 Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night! 00:54 andersje how many recipes can be registered before the server goes kabloooie ? 00:55 NekoGloopMkII infinite? 00:55 andersje sweet 01:04 Exio4 about MAXINT_32 or so :D 01:04 Exio4 (i guess) 01:10 PilzAdam andersje, 2305843009213693951 01:11 PilzAdam dunno if this depends on the system, though 01:11 Exio4 isn't that the max of a 64bit integer? 01:13 Exio4 PilzAdam: that is 61bits :P 01:13 Exio4 not 63 (signed) nor 64 (unsigned) :P 01:13 PilzAdam I used the max_size() function of the vector 01:13 Inocudom Having people quit is never a good thing. Don't they know that mapgen v7 will be coming? I guess summer had its effect this year (and still is.) 01:13 Exio4 ah 01:15 PilzAdam bye 01:16 bas080 PilzAdam, This is why i did not want mapgen. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008302013%20-%2003%3A14%3A40%20AM.png 01:16 Inocudom Luckily, oOChainLynxOo, mauvebic, celeron55, paramat, VanessaE, and RealBadAngel are still with us. 01:17 bas080 When joining server you spawn on your own nyancat 01:17 bas080 then you harvest the neverending rainbow and make something with it 01:19 Inocudom I asked oOChainLynxOo to come chat here sometime. I hope he will, that way all of you will get to know of him and his Minetest videos better. 01:19 bas080 Picture of the map after the nyancats have been flying for a while. 01:20 bas080 Inocudom, i'm sure i have seen vids of him 01:20 Inocudom Very interesting concept for a map, bas080. 01:21 bas080 Inocudom, should test it once on a public server 01:22 Inocudom I might come look at it sometime. Should be very interesting. Hope the server becomes popular. 01:22 bas080 btw, when the player leaves he/she takes it with her/him. 01:23 bas080 I don't have the resources for a descent server :S I hope someone can help me with that 01:24 Inocudom One member I would like to see in this community again is redcrab. We don't hear anything from him these days and do not know why. 01:24 Inocudom Did he decide to keep to himself, or did he become too busy? I am hoping that he will come back on his own. 01:35 bas080 The map after a while, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008302013%20-%2003%3A34%3A26%20AM.png 01:48 Niften Sfan, you there? 02:08 Inocudom It looks like sfan5 isn't here right now. 02:29 Vazon_ Smelly are you there? 02:30 jeffrash anyone know how to power an electric furnace? 02:32 Inocudom An electrical furnace must be in a circuit along with a battery box, a switcher, and a generator. 02:33 jeffrash really 02:33 Inocudom That is for the low voltage one. Be patient, as it may take RealBadAngel some time to be truly active again. Times are rough. 02:34 jeffrash I haven't played in months 02:34 jeffrash back then I just connected the furance to water mill cluster 02:34 jeffrash to a water mill cluster 02:35 Inocudom There have been updates to Minetest, even though it is summer. Try getting one of the latest development builds from either sfan5, Fess, or BlockMen. 02:35 jeffrash so, now I need all that just to to do LV equipment? 02:36 jeffrash switchers take alot to make just for simple LV gear 02:36 Inocudom Yes, you do. Battery box, switcher, and generator. 02:36 jeffrash ok 02:36 jeffrash thanks 02:36 Inocudom You are welcome. 02:47 jeffrash is a switching station the same as a switcher? 02:48 jeffrash or is it a switch? 02:52 Niften . 02:52 Inocudom Switching station is what I mean. 03:48 Sokomine hi inocudom 03:52 Inocudom Hello Sokomine. 03:52 Inocudom RealBadAngel was in this chat room earlier today. 03:53 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo has returned and is playing Minetest again. 03:53 bas080 Join a weird and very creative server so we can put it to the test. 31.151.189.3:30000 >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2008302013%20-%2005%3A52%3A53%20AM.png 03:54 VanessaE bas080: about vines, what's on my server is unmodified and was current with your git repo as of a few days ag 03:54 VanessaE ago* 03:54 VanessaE however default leafdecay is disabled on my server in favor of code provided in moretrees 03:55 Sokomine we've built a nuclear reactor on vanessas survival server 03:55 Sokomine it finally started working! 03:57 BrandonReese not360change 03:57 bas080 Ok, I understand VanessaE, can you come and test my game? 03:57 VanessaE where? 03:57 VanessaE oh I see it 03:58 bas080 :) 03:58 VanessaE connecting.. 03:58 VanessaE oh that was FAST 04:02 VanessaE very interesting.. game 04:02 VanessaE btw you lack player skins 04:03 bas080 I'll look at it. Although the one color squares kinda fit the style of the game :P 04:09 Inocudom Does anyone here remember that topic with the patch for Minetest that allowed players to look down at their own bodies? 04:10 Inocudom It might benefit from further testing, though PilzAdam said that it was hacky. 04:10 VanessaE Inocudom: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5397 04:10 VanessaE this: 04:10 VanessaE this? 04:10 Inocudom Yes, that is the topic. PilzAdam himself made the patch. 04:11 Inocudom I asked Zeg9 if a mod could do the same thing, but he said that it couldn't. 04:14 VanessaE yeah, no.. that's not possible without patching the client 04:16 kahrl you could position an entity at the player and perhaps attach it 04:17 kahrl not sure how laggy that would be and how it would look 04:23 VanessaE given how buggy entities are, I wouldn't expect that to work well 04:25 Sokomine if you're "riding" the car, yo can see the car model from diffrent angels. that's very fine 04:25 Sokomine perhaps if the player where attached to a player-sized model, that would work 04:27 Inocudom Moving entities need support by the base game. An abm made specifically for them. Hopefully, that is being planned. 04:28 Inocudom Of course, the model would have to keep up with the player. 05:02 Inocudom Anybody here? Not much chatting going on. 05:05 ShadowNinja Inocudom: Try #defocus for chat. #minetest is quieter during these hours. 05:37 RealBadAngel hi 05:39 VanessaE hey 05:43 ShadowNinja Hello RBA, lomg time no see. :-) 05:44 ShadowNinja rewrite is nearly ready, and nore did some optimization. 05:45 RealBadAngel hi shadow 05:46 RealBadAngel before i dissapeared you have cancelled my 5 patches 05:46 RealBadAngel in this tree 05:47 RealBadAngel how are you updating this branch? 05:48 ShadowNinja Force pushing, it really is supposed to be just for me to push to until it is ready. 05:49 RealBadAngel i was testing it and found number of bugs 05:49 RealBadAngel so i posted 5 patches 05:49 ShadowNinja Perhaps I will commit normally and then squash. 05:49 RealBadAngel your next update cancelled them all 05:49 ShadowNinja What bugs? 05:49 RealBadAngel for example placing on the ground solar panel caused game to crash 05:50 ShadowNinja Fixed. 05:50 RealBadAngel so did i before 05:50 RealBadAngel rest of them i dont remember atm 05:51 RealBadAngel nevermind 05:52 RealBadAngel tell me rather if the rewrite branch is ready to replace master 05:52 RealBadAngel we have many things waiting for it 05:52 ShadowNinja I fixed a bunch recently while testing it on Vanessa's server. 05:52 VanessaE I'd say it's ready to 05:53 VanessaE it's fairly stable, if a little glitchy in a few places 05:53 RealBadAngel so lets go for it 05:53 ShadowNinja Not yet but almost. I will unfourtunately be away this weekend. 05:54 RealBadAngel if almost then push everything you have 05:54 RealBadAngel and lets us test it 05:54 RealBadAngel i will make another branch 05:54 RealBadAngel as a buffer 05:55 ShadowNinja Alright, it will override a commit or two that I have already added to my commit. 05:55 ShadowNinja Hmmm? 06:57 nore hi all 06:58 VanessaE hi 07:01 nore is Calinou around? 07:01 VanessaE nope 07:01 nore because we have a problem with technic_game 07:01 VanessaE RBA was here a few mins ago 07:02 VanessaE well about 20 mins ago 07:02 VanessaE guess he's gone to bed 07:02 VanessaE what's the problem? 07:02 nore it depends on moreores, and moreores in GPLv3 -> everything in technic_game should be GPLv3 07:02 nore s/in/is 07:02 nore and moreores is even included... 07:03 VanessaE I don't think anyone honestly cares about that corner case :) 07:03 VanessaE its only illegal if Calinou objects. 07:03 VanessaE :) 07:03 VanessaE however, 07:03 nore well, I wanted to ask him if he was ok with LGPL... 07:03 nore what? 07:04 VanessaE hm, skip the however. 07:04 VanessaE he should be here soon, maybe an hour or two 07:04 VanessaE it's like 9am his time I think 07:04 VanessaE yeah, 9:04am 07:05 nore yes, it is: [09:04] yeah, 9:04am 07:05 RealBadAngel gplv3 is ok with me 07:06 RealBadAngel even wtfpl ;) 07:06 VanessaE fine by me, too 07:06 VanessaE License: GPLv3, or WTFPL if you don't care ;) 07:06 RealBadAngel seriously speakin i dont give a fuck what license is used ;) 07:07 VanessaE (I wrote something like this for HDX :) ) 07:07 nore the problem is that w should put it under LGPL, because we will have problems with technic_game else 07:07 VanessaE let's just relicense it to CC0 07:07 VanessaE that's compatible with everything 07:07 VanessaE and has legal language to back it up 07:07 nore since else all mods in technic_game should be GPLv3 07:07 RealBadAngel if you say so 07:07 RealBadAngel im dumb about them 07:08 nore VanessaE, can you bundle a GPL and a LGPL mod together? 07:08 RealBadAngel i just want to code, nothin more 07:08 nore same as me, I do this for fun ;) 07:08 RealBadAngel exactly 07:09 RealBadAngel so, VanessaE, can you take care of this "problem" ? 07:09 RealBadAngel pick the proper one, lets us just code ;) 07:09 nore RBA, we still have the problem that moreores is GPLv3 07:10 nore and technic should be GPLv3 because of that 07:11 nore if we change technic to LGPL and ask Calinou to put moreores under the LGPL, we have no problems for technic_game 07:11 VanessaE nore: yes, I believe so 07:12 VanessaE LGPL was made so that there would ne fewer compatibility issues between GPL-based projects 07:12 VanessaE if a project is LGPL, it can be included in a GPL project 07:12 nore since I haven't found any other GPL mod in technic_game (mesecons in LGPL, forth_computer is CC-BY, pipeworks in LGPL, etc) 07:12 VanessaE but afaik not vice versa, so if technic is at least LGPL that will probably solve the issue 07:13 RealBadAngel im lost 07:13 nore we just need to ask Calinou 07:13 VanessaE pipeworks is WTFPL. 07:13 nore VanessaE: typing 07:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: relicense technic to LGPL v2 or later or whatever they call it 07:13 RealBadAngel that shit is just beyonf me 07:13 RealBadAngel *d 07:13 nore RBA: the problem is that everything that uses something GPL must be GPL 07:14 RealBadAngel why one community uses dozens of licenses??? 07:14 RealBadAngel its sick 07:15 nore we should ask everyone to put their mods under a GPL-compatible license 07:15 RealBadAngel i vote for the f..ing license 07:15 nore +L 07:15 nore yes, but a few people want a minimum amount of protection for their code 07:16 RealBadAngel community coders dont need any protection 07:16 RealBadAngel they do that for the community 07:16 RealBadAngel without any expectations 07:17 VanessaE RealBadAngel: all you have to do is delete any license files that are specific to technic GAME, do the same in any .lua files that have the GPL license declared there, and then just include a copy of whatever license you want instead e.g. CC0 ( http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode ) or LGPL ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-3.0.txt ) 07:17 VanessaE just don't delete license files for the individual projects inside of the game 07:17 VanessaE hey Calinou 07:17 nore hi 07:17 nore we have a request: could you relicense moreores under the LGPL? 07:17 Calinou hi 07:17 Calinou for what? 07:17 RealBadAngel for debian 07:18 VanessaE RealBadAngel: as long as none of the code in technic_game is incompatible with the license you chose, that's it. Just upload, and make a note on the relevant forum thread. 07:18 nore because else technic and all mods in technic_game should be GPLv3 07:18 Calinou oh, I'm ok with it 07:18 Calinou nvm 07:18 Calinou actually, marktraceur rewrote it under GPLv3 07:19 VanessaE good luck getting him to shit to LGPL... 07:19 VanessaE shiFt it.... 07:19 Calinou I still have old_init.lua which is zlib 07:19 Calinou it doesn't use marktraceur's code so it is copypasta, but works 07:19 nore I can rewrite it under the CC0 if you want 07:19 Calinou textures are CC BY-SA so you can use them 07:19 RealBadAngel easy enough 07:20 Calinou yep 07:20 Calinou there are just nodes, items, tools and ore gen to add 07:20 Calinou (on top of that, moreores never used C++ ore gen... lol) 07:20 RealBadAngel shame on you ;) 07:20 nore then we need to rewrite to use the C++ mapgen 07:21 nore what did he rewrite? 07:21 Calinou he rewrote definitions to not repeat code all over the place 07:22 RealBadAngel lets rewrite them again, nothin easier 07:22 RealBadAngel i can smell there VanessaE style ;) 07:22 RealBadAngel shes good at such stuff 07:22 * VanessaE backs away slowly 07:22 RealBadAngel hehe 07:23 RealBadAngel cmon, Lady LoopRegister :) 07:23 VanessaE I'll paass 07:23 VanessaE pass* 07:23 nore hey, there are no hoes in moreores... 07:24 nore I'm adding them too 07:24 RealBadAngel with full in hand? no way ;) 07:25 Calinou yep, silver hoes would be good 07:34 VanessaE heh: http://geekologie.com/2013/08/50-questionable-things-every-geek-should.php 07:35 VanessaE I barely know half of what's in that image. :) 07:36 Calinou "know how to mine obsidian in Minecraft" lol'd 07:38 VanessaE heh 07:38 VanessaE I missed that one :) 07:38 thexyz RealBadAngel: what browser do you use? 07:38 VanessaE (does it count if I can mine it in MT with an admin pick? ;) ) 07:43 sfan5 hello everyone 07:43 nore 14? 07:43 nore hi sfan5 07:45 sfan5 "Know how to jailbreak an iPhone" wat 07:45 Pentium44 VanessaE yes 07:45 Pentium44 (does it count if I can mine it in MT with an admin pick? ;) ) 07:45 VanessaE haha 07:46 sfan5 thats not a difficult task 07:46 Pentium44 hope not 07:46 Pentium44 if it is, then something is wrong 07:46 sfan5 jailbreaking entirely depends on clicking buttons on a nice gui some people made 07:46 Pentium44 yup haha 07:46 VanessaE oddly, I run into stuff from time to time that even an admin pick doesn't break instantly. 07:46 sfan5 also: "Know how to boot from an USB " 07:47 sfan5 I didn' know you can boot from usb cables 07:47 Calinou booting from USB is also easy 07:47 VanessaE (there's been one or two things I've run into, it felt like I was using a stone pick!) 07:49 nore Calinou, do I leave the copper rails in morores? 07:49 sfan5 "Know how many quests you need to complete in World of Warcraft to become a Loremaster" D: 07:49 Calinou keep them 07:50 nore I know only 14 things... :( 07:50 nore about that, did any of you play DwarfFortress? 07:51 VanessaE nope 07:52 sfan5 nope 07:52 nore very good game, free but not open source :( 07:53 * sfan5 got 18 07:55 nore Calinou: how many uses for silver and mithril hoes? 07:55 nore FYI, steel has 220, stone has 90 07:56 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108115#p108115 apparently someone expects the creator of the mod to now know how to use its commands 07:56 VanessaE oy, just counted them up.... I need to get back to BASIC (17) 07:56 sfan5 s/now/not/ 07:56 nore and no diamond/mese hoe 07:56 Calinou nore: silver should have more than steel i guess 07:57 Calinou and mithril should probably last very long 07:57 nore even if there are no dimaonds and mese hoe? 07:58 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVrJ8DxECbg HAH! 07:58 Calinou i guess, yes 07:59 VanessaE "Am I trippin, son?" 07:59 VanessaE BAHAHAHA 07:59 nore Calinou: what license? 08:00 Calinou license for what? 08:00 nore the new code 08:00 nore what license do you want? 08:01 Calinou anything that works, preferably zlib 08:02 thexyz sfan5: why two slashes though? 08:03 sfan5 VanessaE: you forgot the (tm) after the the soon in your post at 08:07:11 08:03 nore http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?cbecb9daba45cf4b#3yZc8jfrUC/4WzhDbYKwFMkltssGKNzE0vfUlFZVROg= 08:03 VanessaE haha 08:03 sfan5 thexyz: MC WorldEdit also uses 2 slashes 08:03 nore change the license to what you want (for now it is CC0) 08:03 sfan5 and we won't ever collide with commands from other mods 08:04 Calinou CC0 is fine too 08:04 nore It's similar to the other code, because I would have done it like that too 08:04 nore except that a few things were not done good, so improved even more 08:05 nore but I didn't test it 08:05 thexyz sfan5: so you use two slashes just because mc's worldedit does, understood 09:59 sfan5 oh, the crevis website got a new design... 10:00 sfan5 they seem to be doing actual work now 10:00 sfan5 (instead of just throwing many mods in at once) 10:05 nore and they put it under the GPL 10:06 sfan5 Wikipedia says thats ok 10:18 sfan5 hahahahahaha http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/ 10:24 sfan5 lolwar 10:24 sfan5 *lolwat 10:24 nore sfan5: never seen anything more dangerous 10:24 sfan5 the people from crevis are so competent they even included debug.txt in the crevis zip 10:25 nore and are there mods they made inside? 10:25 proller its php standard 10:25 nore or only minetest mods? 10:25 sfan5 I don't think so 10:26 KikaRz sfan5 10:26 sfan5 they even include client/cache 10:26 KikaRz We can compile Minetest using Cygwin? 10:26 sfan5 *cache/media 10:26 sfan5 KikaRz: yes, but why would we do this? 10:27 KikaRz Ok, I'm going to do that 10:27 KikaRz :) 10:27 KikaRz I'm running windows, so... 10:27 KikaRz I can use robotbuild to make windows bin 10:27 KikaRz :P 10:28 sfan5 nop 10:28 sfan5 e 10:28 KikaRz nope? :( 10:28 sfan5 things built with cygwin only run with cygwin 10:28 sfan5 s/with/using/ 10:28 KikaRz ... 10:28 KikaRz really? 10:28 sfan5 yes 10:28 KikaRz can't I transfer to my computer? 10:28 sfan5 what? 10:28 KikaRz can't I put the things on windows? 10:29 sfan5 you can build minetest without cygwin however 10:32 kaeza mornings 10:33 sfan5 morning 10:33 sfan5 http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/ 10:35 KikaRz sfan5, that's for me? 10:35 sfan5 KikaRz: that link? no 10:35 KikaRz lawl 10:35 KikaRz So, how I build without cygwin? 10:38 kaeza hah 10:38 KikaRz and don't tell me to README, please 10:38 KikaRz I've tried that sometimes, and didn't worked. 11:06 Jordach i leave cookie clicker running overnight.... http://i.imgur.com/S06Zsxn.jpg 11:08 * Jordach is about to approach 2 billion 11:08 Jordach s/billion/trillion 11:08 KikaRz well 11:08 KikaRz i've got 19382982783 cookies 11:08 KikaRz always raising 11:08 Jordach -g 11:08 KikaRz all level 433 11:11 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:22 jin_xi hi PilzAdam 11:34 Jordach !op 11:34 Jordach (out of date sandwiches) 12:13 * Jordach has an idea 12:13 Jordach but the question is: can blender handle it 12:14 * Jordach has been digging in the ancient files directory again 12:54 * Jordach worked out fully cubic hats 13:05 * Jordach has a new type animatic model 13:17 jojoa1997 Does anyone know where I can find the version of technic used on VanessaE's survival server 13:27 Erikas0012 Hello 13:27 kaeza hi 13:27 Erikas0012 Anyone wanna play Minetest? 13:28 andersje =) yes, but I'm at work. 13:28 Erikas0012 So? 13:28 Erikas0012 You mean you can't? 13:29 andersje not right now. 13:29 andersje are you looking for a server, or someone to join your server? 13:29 Erikas0012 Someone to join. 13:31 PilzAdam Erikas0012, what kind of server? 13:31 Erikas0012 Basic survival. 13:34 andersje !seen Calinou 13:34 MinetestBot andersje: calinou was last seen at 2013-08-30 08:02:02 UTC on #minetest 14:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ejI91VQ.png 14:11 jojoa1997 Does anyone know where I can find the version of technic used on VanessaE's survival server 14:14 Jordach no 14:15 andersje on VanessaE's server? 14:15 jojoa1997 Yeah 14:15 VanessaE jojoa1997: 14:16 jojoa1997 Yeah 14:16 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2 14:16 VanessaE it's in there. 14:16 jojoa1997 No I meant the github link 14:16 VanessaE that's the game from the creative server, which is the same as on the survival but with a few components disabled. 14:16 jojoa1997 For just technic 14:16 VanessaE oh, sorry no clue 14:16 VanessaE ask ShadowNinja :) 14:16 Jordach if you say VanessaE three times, she appears in chat 14:16 VanessaE brb 14:16 jojoa1997 But how do you update it? 14:17 jojoa1997 VanessaE 14:17 jojoa1997 VanessaE 14:17 jojoa1997 VanessaE 14:17 Jordach lol 14:17 andersje that'll teach you. 14:17 jojoa1997 I thought the limit was five 14:23 kaeza oh dog https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108202#p108202 14:29 andersje kaeza: that is awesome 14:31 NekoGloop xD 14:31 NekoGloop better yet: why not ask on terraria forums? 14:32 andersje wtf is terraria anyway? 14:32 NekoGloop put simply, 2d minecraft 14:32 NekoGloop It's more than just that, but you probably want a simple definition 14:33 * kaeza wantts to reply with "STFW" 14:33 kaeza -t 14:35 * andersje believes the proper response is lmgtfy 14:37 NekoGloop Lemme google that for you, then shove it up your ass 14:45 andersje o_O 14:47 nore hi 14:47 nore Calinou, have you updated moreores? 14:52 andersje no calinou present, nore 14:52 andersje !seen Calinou 14:52 MinetestBot andersje: calinou was last seen at 2013-08-30 08:02:02 UTC on #minetest 14:53 PilzAdam andersje, you dont need to use !seen for every user that isnt here 14:54 * andersje apologizes 14:56 Mati^1 hi all 14:56 Jordach andersje, ever heard of the user list for this channel 14:57 Jordach or even, type, ca and it should tell you if calinou is here :P 14:57 andersje yes, I know 14:57 andersje someone else starting talking to him like he was here. 14:57 andersje I thought I was being helpful to nore. 14:57 andersje my intent was not to offend anyone else. 15:08 andersje hello Mati^1. 15:13 * Jordach made a real nice grass block 15:18 * Jordach makes a 4000x4000 render 15:21 Jordach 'tis a monster 15:24 Erikas0012 Minetest anyone? 15:24 Jordach nope 15:24 nore Calinou, have you updated moreores? 15:24 Calinou updated where 15:25 Erikas0012 Anyone...? 15:25 kaeza Erikas0012, join a public server 15:25 Erikas0012 IP 15:25 nore in the repo 15:25 andersje hola, Calinou :) I sent you a pull request 15:26 Calinou hi 15:27 OldCoder Jordach, is there a screenshot of the grass block? 15:27 Jordach OldCoder, you want a 4k render? 15:27 OldCoder Anything will be fine 15:27 Jordach 4k being 4000x4000 15:27 OldCoder Sure 15:28 Erikas0012 OldCoder 15:28 Erikas0012 Minetest? 15:28 OldCoder Erikas0012, hm? hi 15:28 Erikas0012 In a private server 15:29 OldCoder Erikas0012, Is there a question? 15:29 Erikas0012 I already asked you... 15:29 OldCoder I do not understand the question 15:29 Erikas0012 I asked if you want to play minetest in a private server which I'm gonna make.... 15:30 OldCoder Ah 15:30 OldCoder Erikas0012, in the future yes. Things do not permit this ATM. 15:31 andersje Jordach: a 4000x4000 pixel render of a grass block? 15:31 Erikas0012 Whatever... 15:33 Jordach OldCoder, having to re-render, the camera wan't centred 15:33 Jordach now it is :D 15:36 Jordach hey Evergreen 15:37 Jordach im rendering a gigantic image atm 15:37 Evergreen Hi jordach 15:37 babyface1031 hi all 15:39 Jordach hi tablet user 15:39 Jordach 15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet Wow 15:40 babyface1031 hi jojoa1997|Tablet 15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet I forgot tthat I have diff names on PC and tab 15:40 Calinou hi tablet user :P 15:40 OldCoder Jordach, k 15:41 OldCoder babyface1031, hi 15:41 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 15:41 Jordach PC master race 15:41 * Calinou drinks crit-a-cola to win the master race 15:47 * Jordach saves the gigantic image 15:48 Jordach 14.4 mb, holy shit! 15:48 Mossmanikin Hi folks 15:48 Calinou hi 15:49 Calinou andersje: you're pagliaccio? 15:53 andersje me, no. 15:53 andersje I'm andersje =) 15:53 andersje even on github 15:54 * andersje sent a pull request on moreblocks, not on moreores 15:54 andersje sorry I was unclear about that before, Calinou 15:55 Jordach Calinou, that guy who comments on every pull related to minetest 15:55 andersje ? 15:56 * Jordach pokes xiong 15:57 * andersje thanks Calinou 15:57 Calinou np 15:58 Jordach OldCoder, http://www.mediafire.com/?2jjl70udzmv7na3 15:58 Jordach zipballed 15:58 OldCoder Jordach, DLg 16:00 OldCoder Jordach, that is indeed a Big Ass Grass Block. Can you offer some comments about this object? 16:00 OldCoder Technical or otherwise? 16:01 OldCoder I must leave momentarily but will wait 16:01 Jordach OldCoder, i built it as a replacement for the (not matching the minetest.net) website style 16:02 Jordach eg, replace that svg with that image 16:02 OldCoder Not quite following 16:02 OldCoder You mean, literally fix up the website? 16:03 OldCoder Is this a MT symbol? 16:04 OldCoder Jordach, g2g! t y for the block 16:16 PilzAdam sfan5, why is MintestBot dead? 16:22 andersje VanessaE: I saw your post on the forums. What's the downside of that many nodes in a single mod? Will it strain smaller machines? 16:23 VanessaE well the original stained glass supplied 104 nodes. with low- and no-glow, that's 312. Add trapglass variants and you've got 624. 16:23 VanessaE an unpatched MT only has a limit of 4096. 16:23 * andersje nods 16:23 andersje oh, so there _is_ a limit 16:23 andersje okay. I didn't know there was. 16:24 andersje the other option would be to add a config file with a flag on which should be loaded. 16:24 VanessaE kahrl: so what was the reason for not just putting that through, since we kinda agreed it should be done? 16:24 andersje putting what through? an increase to the number of available nodes? 16:25 VanessaE the change, btw, is: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99717#p99717 16:25 VanessaE that ^^ 16:26 andersje ah. so still not an increase in the number of available nodes. 16:26 VanessaE kahrl: I recommend setting this to say 0xf000. 16:26 andersje I'm going to add flags into this thing, then. 16:26 VanessaE oh. sure it is. 16:27 VanessaE you bump that value to somewhere a bit south of 0xffff and you have that many slots available. 16:27 VanessaE you just can't take it all the way to 0xffff because you have to leave room for undefined nodes. 16:27 VanessaE (e.g. mods that got deleted from a map) 16:27 andersje my understanding from the first post is that the limit for lua-registered nodes is still 4096, but undefined nodes no longer count toward the 4096 limit 16:27 andersje is that not correct? 16:27 VanessaE nope. 16:28 VanessaE the limit for Lua-defined nodes is whatever the value of MAX_REGISTERED_CONTENT is set for. 16:28 andersje Okay, but your earlier comment about "unpatched" still stands -- unless I'm tinkering with my server compile, I'm limited to 4096 registered nodes. 16:29 VanessaE it's more like you have to 'partition' the memory between defined and undefined nodes. 16:29 andersje is that correct? 16:29 VanessaE this value sets the size of the defined nodes partition, leaving the rest for undefined nodes. 16:29 VanessaE that much is correct yes 16:29 andersje okay, makes sense. 16:30 andersje so I need to partition these things out, with the config file, still. Then I can have one mod, and people can just enable things as necessary. 16:30 VanessaE sounds good 16:31 VanessaE it'll be just a one-line change in my build-my-game script most likely :) 16:31 andersje maybe I'll put in the other check I was thinking of...I was considering adding a check, so if moreblocks wasn't installed, it just enabled noglow glass. 16:31 andersje I think I can alter it to just do default:excolor_ if unifieddyes isn't installed either. 16:32 VanessaE (I do it that way so I don't have to modify any of the code in my master mods directory) 16:32 * andersje nods 16:32 VanessaE that's a good idea, in both cases. 16:32 andersje are there any mods that have examples of reading from minetest.conf ? or is it a no-no for a mod to have a setting in minetest.conf ? 16:32 PilzAdam Jordach, you can reduce the download size by 0.3 MiB whith pngcrush -brute and using 7z 16:32 VanessaE I don't remember how that's done, but there are plenty of mods that do it. 16:33 PilzAdam (using lzma, that is) 16:35 VanessaE bbl 17:00 Inocudom ShadowNinja is assisting RealBadAngel with the development of technic, which is a good thing. 17:04 Jordach PilzAdam, fuck 7z and pngcrush 17:05 IceCraft pls 17:05 IceCraft 7z best 17:07 thexyz isn't optipng better than pngcrush? 17:08 * Jordach suggests ~judge 7z Zip 17:10 thexyz > To correctly use pngcrush, you must know the PNG specification, and control options of the utility, because without them, it is unlikely to get a properly optimized PNG. Others optimizers have the advantage to do that automatically 17:11 Jordach two new wallpapers: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/358/gblock.png and http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/359/gblock-toon.png 17:11 thexyz http://css-ig.net/png-tools-overview 17:13 thexyz Jordach: second one is nice but background is not 17:14 Jordach whats wrong with default:stone 17:15 thexyz dunno, I just don't like it on those pictures 17:15 Jordach other people might 17:15 thexyz maybe 17:17 Jordach thexyz, not to mention the cube fits the style of the main website 17:21 proller https://github.com/proller/minetest/compare/weather_fog 17:22 proller ups miss 17:22 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108242#p108242 17:26 Mossmanikin Jordach: also like the second one, depending the stone: guess I'm one of those other people 17:27 Jordach Mossmanikin, other textures as a suggestion 17:28 Jordach the render + change background roughly takes 1-3 mins at best 17:30 Mossmanikin Jordach: not really, I like the stone because it's not colourfull, because of that the background is even more in the background... maybe obsidian would also work nice 17:30 thexyz Jordach: oh please don't talk with me about the main website 17:31 Jordach thexyz, i wasnt meaning that, i was talking about the minetest-logo svg 17:37 Jordach ^ computer moody* 17:42 Peacock mauvaise humeur = bad mood, moody is more like bipolar/menopause 17:42 Jordach Mossmanikin, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/360/gblockob.png and http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/361/gblockob-toon.png 17:45 Evergreen Jordach, I'm using optipng on your "big-@$$-grass-block.png" and I'm going to see how much of it can be shaved off 17:46 PilzAdam thexyz, you get 400 bytes more compression with optipng -o5 compared to pngcrush -brute 17:47 Jordach Evergreen, that was the point of big ass grass block. it's a literal statement (i REALLY REALLY didn't have a name for it, and grass block was boring) 17:47 Evergreen Yeah, I kind of knew that, just trying it out. :P 17:48 Mossmanikin Jordach: I'm not sure which one I like more (stone or obsidian), but I like how obsidian gives the pic a mysterious atmosphere 17:48 Jordach Mossmanikin, for a german, that's good english (also, thanks) 17:48 Jordach i've spoke english for 15 years, and that's pretty good 17:49 Mossmanikin Jordach: thanks, I watch movies with original sound ;) 17:49 bas080 How can i get on the public server list? 17:49 PilzAdam bas080, http://minetest.net/servers look at the bottom 17:50 bas080 ty PilzAdam 17:50 kaeza nice IP 17:51 bas080 where is the server config located? 17:51 PilzAdam $path_user/minetest.conf 17:51 kaeza minetest.conf 17:52 bas080 i understand 17:52 bas080 ty 17:52 Jordach or wherever you compiled minetest (or extracted it) 17:52 kaeza bas080, you may want to look at the --config command line option 17:53 * Jordach waits for someone to join with the IP, 69.69.69.69 17:53 bas080 kaeza, very cool 17:53 bas080 much better then using a cluttered singleplayer/server configuration 17:53 bas080 s 17:56 Jordach wb kahrl 17:57 kahrl Jordach, I might have to leave again quickly 17:57 kahrl but hi for the moment :D 17:57 Jordach kahrl, computer being moody :P 17:57 kahrl oui 17:57 kahrl well actually just the new kernel missing some firmware 17:58 * Mati^1 slaps RealBadAngel around a bit with a large trout 17:59 Jordach heh, kernel firmware, just like a good game of thermonuclear war, the only move is not to play :P 18:00 Inocudom RealBadAngel isn't here right now, Mati^1. 18:02 Jordach PilzAdam, sfan5's duckdns.org/upload/ server is down 18:05 Jordach haha 18:07 Jordach wb kahrl 18:09 kahrl yay seems to be fixed now 18:20 Inocudom I will keep this window open. In the meantime, I will play some Xonotic. 18:24 Jordach woo! 18:24 Jordach not red eclipse (i prefer it) 18:24 bas080 I followed the steps for setting the server up but the server is still not showing on the server list. It's called "Nyan World" 18:25 proller dont touch server_address = 18:25 bas080 proller, ok. 18:26 bas080 i left it empty 18:28 PilzAdam Jordach, thx, but why do you tell me this? 18:28 Jordach err what 18:29 PilzAdam PilzAdam, sfan5's duckdns.org/upload/ server is down 18:29 sfan5 apparently someone noticed that I'm not at home 18:30 bas080 it works. wrong path... pff 18:34 Peacock in minetest.dir_to_facedir (the 6d portion) the under --from below, that wasn't meant to put things upside down was it? 18:38 Jordach hello sfan5 18:38 Peacock http://s17.postimg.org/agm03m2mn/screenshot_3498360278.png 18:48 Jordach anyone want a taste of my blender model? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108254#p108254 18:53 bas080 PilzAdam, do i set default_privs in the same file as the server configurations? 18:53 PilzAdam yes 18:54 Jordach server configs use the same settings as minetest.conf settings, so reading the example file is a very good idea 19:25 Jordach and my system has less bugs than a nun's hard drive 19:33 * kaeza installed fluxbox 19:33 kaeza everything looks so "light" now ^_^ 19:34 Jordach fluxbox? link? 19:35 kaeza :| 19:35 kaeza sudo apt-get install fluxbox 19:35 Jordach or even just a picture 19:37 Jordach kaeza, http://fluxbox.org/ 19:37 kaeza fek? 19:37 kaeza hexchat now opens links in dillo ;_; 19:38 jojoa1997 hello 19:38 * Jordach read dillo as dildo 19:38 Calinou hi jojoa1997 19:39 * Jordach should stop playing Sains Row 4 20:06 Inocudom The chat room seems to be very quiet today. It is during the daytime. 20:06 Calinou hi Inocudom :) 20:06 Calinou didn't know you were here 20:06 Inocudom Hello Calinou. 20:07 Jordach hello Inocudom 20:08 Inocudom I noticed that the silver and tin blocks in your moreores mod still have the old textures. Will they be changed like you changed the texture of the mithril block? 20:08 kaeza hi 20:08 Calinou oh, they still do? I thought I changed them :/ 20:08 * kaeza puts 1 trillion cookies on Inocudom's head 20:09 * PilzAdam got 4 trillion :D 20:09 Calinou meh, the game failed to save for me lol 20:09 Calinou and eats tons of CPU, even with all anims disabled 20:09 Calinou candy box is at least power saving :| 20:10 Jordach Calinou, the joys of html 5 + javascript 20:11 thexyz Calinou: there's simple version 20:11 Inocudom I looked at the github repository for more ores. Those two blocks still have the old textures. 20:18 jojoa1997 were new shaders added to minetest recently? 20:18 kahrl define recently 20:18 Calinou #ifdef recrntly 20:18 Calinou recently* 20:18 jojoa1997 as in 2 weeks 20:18 kahrl no 20:18 jojoa1997 cause i updated my minetest and now the shaders are broke 20:19 Calinou shaders are broke? 20:19 jojoa1997 could it have to do with using a high res texture pack? 20:19 jojoa1997 as in i get the red and orange screen 20:19 Calinou use opengl, not direct3D 20:19 Calinou video_driver = opengl 20:20 Calinou in minetest.conf 20:20 jojoa1997 k 20:20 jojoa1997 i am using htat 20:20 jojoa1997 that 20:21 Calinou try using the default texture pack 20:23 thexyz easiest way to annoy user 20:23 thexyz place your save/cancel buttons in random order http://imgur.com/a/KKD96 20:23 jojoa1997 ? 20:23 jojoa1997 oh 20:23 Calinou haha 20:23 jojoa1997 still there 20:24 Calinou both should use the same pattern, yeah 20:24 jojoa1997 oh 20:24 Mossmanikin :D 20:25 jojoa1997 lol 20:25 jojoa1997 when i updated the shaders got deleted 20:25 jojoa1997 so there were no shaders to enable 20:26 thexyz okay, now how do I open gamemgr? 20:30 kahrl thexyz: main_menu_game_mgr = 1 20:30 thexyz kahrl: great, thanks 20:31 * Jordach is working on a OCD pack, but not an OCD pack 20:33 * jojoa1997 pokes VanessaE 20:49 thexyz > mod.typ 20:51 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/modmgr.lua#L591 20:51 thexyz ;_; 20:52 * Jordach throws thexyz's waifu at thexyz 20:53 thexyz wait, i have waifu? who's she? 20:56 Jordach Minetest-tan 20:56 Jordach :P 20:56 * Jordach runs 20:57 thexyz perhaps 20:58 Jordach when Calinou goes afk, i turn into him 20:59 Jordach it gets stranger, we have the same eye colour and hair colour (and mostly the same likes, chess, etc) 21:00 thexyz lol, weblate broke a bit 21:00 thexyz http://translate.minetest.ru/changes/ 21:04 thexyz me too dumb 21:06 thexyz what do those do? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/modmgr.lua#L385 21:10 PilzAdam thexyz, filter the modlist 21:12 thexyz okay 21:12 thexyz PilzAdam: can you give more details? 21:12 thexyz what does "Hide Game" do? how's it different from "Hide mp content", what does it even mean? 21:12 thexyz what game does it hide? 21:12 thexyz what is mp? multiplayer? 21:12 thexyz modpack? 21:12 PilzAdam yes, it means modpack 21:13 PilzAdam there is a pseudo mod for each modpack in the list, if "Hide MP conten" is disabled then all the mods that are in the modpack are shown under it 21:14 PilzAdam if "Hide game" is disabled, then the mods of the game are shown at the bottom of the list 21:17 thexyz that's almost good 21:17 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/cZZlvd2.png 21:18 thexyz except for that invalid multibyte string 21:18 thexyz and button 21:19 PilzAdam do the other vertical labels work? 21:19 thexyz no 21:19 thexyz all translated ones look like this 21:21 Jordach all strings in the engine should be 13375p34k 21:21 Jordach and english should be in weblate :P 21:21 PilzAdam guiFormspecMenu.cpp:1088 I guess it should use wchart_t there 21:22 thexyz aren't there any proper unicode libraries for c++? 21:23 thexyz s/unicode/string/ 21:24 thexyz we should find one and use utf-8 everywhere and break compatibility somewhere around 0.5 21:25 thexyz if there ever will be such a thing 21:27 PilzAdam this should work: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6394436 21:32 Inocudom We still need to get to 0.4.8 first before we can worry about 0.4.9 and then 0.5.0. 21:34 thexyz PilzAdam: yeah, it does 21:34 thexyz Inocudom: big changes like this may take much time to implement 21:35 Inocudom It is in their nature to take much time. Rather than leaving, people need to learn to be patient. 21:36 thexyz Jordach: nice chest animation, how about a mob? chest which tries to eat the player 21:36 Jordach thexyz, maybe 21:36 kaeza Gambit made one already 21:36 Inocudom That is a good idea for a monster. 21:37 thexyz looks like regular chest node but when player tries to open it… 21:37 Jordach om nom nom 21:37 kaeza mimics! 21:37 thexyz kaeza: really? where? 21:38 Inocudom First, the fake chest would have to be a special kind of block. When clicked on, that block would disappear and the monster would take its place. Should be simple. 21:38 Inocudom Sounds like something mobf could attempt for dungeons. 21:38 Peacock if you wanna make chests scary, add taxes to them :P 21:39 Peacock put in 20 cobble, 5 disapear lol 21:39 Jordach Inocudom, you're a good ideas machine 21:39 Jordach 80% of feature is minecraft feature dibble 21:39 Jordach dribble* 21:39 thexyz when you kill it it drops stuff 21:39 Jordach but what if the chest eats you? 21:39 Jordach you kill the chest to regain your inv. again 21:39 thexyz stuff += player->stuff 21:39 thexyz right 21:40 Inocudom That appears to be my most significant contribution in life. Unfortunately, my ideas were not recieved much in the ModTheSims and PureZC communities. 21:40 kaeza thexyz, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77116#p77116 21:40 Jordach idea might spark mods 21:41 Inocudom So, I don't share ideas in those communities anymore. 21:41 kaeza hmm.. 21:41 kaeza it looks like it's only the model though 21:41 Peacock people still play the sims? 21:41 thexyz kaeza: cool 21:41 Jordach gimme a day and i can make that model 21:42 thexyz is there a source though? 21:42 Jordach nope. 21:42 Jordach gambit never shares his source 21:42 Jordach (uses LIGHTWAVE, not BLENDER.) 21:43 thexyz maybe just no one asked? 21:43 Jordach probably 21:44 thexyz what's the problem with lightwave? 21:45 Jordach non-free, doesn't export to blender 21:45 Peacock cant you import from blender? 21:45 Jordach Peacock, importing is horrible 21:46 Jordach sometimes the options will fuck the model 21:46 Peacock meh, works for everything from google warehouse 21:46 kaeza > non-free 21:46 Jordach eg, not import bones, or even get the UV wrong 21:46 kaeza meh 21:46 Peacock couldn't care less about non free lol ill take the easiest interface/gui 21:47 Peacock i miss sketchup though 21:50 thexyz those look a bit too similar https://github.com/minetest https://github.com/minetest-services 21:50 Inocudom There is a free model making program known as Anim8tor. 21:51 jojoa1997 hello 21:51 Inocudom It might be useful to some people. Blender3D can be hard to learn because the last time I played with it, I was put of by the fact that it didn't make much use of the mouse. 21:51 thexyz Inocudom: it's not free 21:52 Inocudom It was the last time I got it, but that was a few years ago. Things must have changed. 21:53 Jordach Inocudom, i mostly use keyboard shortcuts 21:53 thexyz well, I didn't manage to find link to source code at the main page 21:55 * Jordach claps 21:55 Jordach thexyz, achievement get: fail at life 21:55 kaeza lel 21:56 thexyz Jordach: hm? 21:56 * jojoa1997 ||Achievement Get!:Have No Life!|| 21:57 kaeza brb 21:58 Peacock finally got this upside down placement thingie to work - ~300 fewer nodes in the inventory :D 21:58 Jordach holy shitballs 21:58 Peacock shitballs indeed 21:58 Jordach ha 21:58 Peacock should provide some relief for my p4 lol 21:59 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108278#p108278 22:00 PilzAdam thexyz, click on "Download" and then on "Source Code" at the top 22:00 Peacock having just watched star trek into darkness, im thinking of adding those cool glass displays 22:01 Niften Sfan you there? 22:01 thexyz PilzAdam: where? http://i.imgur.com/T9QXD8X.png 22:02 Jordach Niften, i might be able to help 22:03 PilzAdam thexyz, whoops, thought you talked about blender 22:03 Niften Okay Jordach. 22:03 Niften Email address? 22:03 thexyz Jordach: where did I fail at life? 22:03 Niften I'll email it to you. 22:07 Peacock extreme recycling: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7553839616/h4E4D84D9/ 22:09 jojoa1997 be back later macaroni time 22:15 Jordach Peacock, some shit right there 22:15 Peacock yeah i could turn my useless mt toilet into a furnace lol 22:16 Jordach Peacock, it might look like you're cooking up some shit 22:16 Peacock though 6d is fun for that, placing upside-down toilets in people's huts lol 22:16 Niften Jordach: Email ? 22:16 Jordach Niften, i sent it to you through PM 22:17 khonkhortisan I made a series of connected rooms, each one rotated. Now my problem is that my character can't turn the same way. 22:18 khonkhortisan I can fly, but only upright. 22:18 khonkhortisan No crawling either 22:19 Peacock minetest, y u no crawl 22:19 * xiong pokes Jordach 22:19 Jordach that took it's time 22:20 khonkhortisan its 22:32 Jordach bbi5 (be back in 5) 22:51 Peacock http://youtu.be/8UUD3zyu7Ek 23:33 Jordach thexyz, you still alive? 23:36 Jordach if you read this: http://i.imgur.com/LIzIW1F.png