Time Nick Message 00:06 XeroZero . 00:32 PilzAdam Pilztest now has hunger! 00:32 PilzAdam and its completly different from what MC has 00:37 NekoGloop You mean that we don't have to eat every minute? :P 00:38 * NekoGloop throws a Club sandwhich at PilzAdam 01:01 Evergreen PilzAdam: Pilztest is looking really cool! 01:02 PilzAdam what do you like about it? 01:02 Evergreen How does the hunger work? 01:02 PilzAdam hehe, read the README and find out :-p 01:02 Evergreen Huh, pretty cool way of doing it 01:05 Evergreen Also, did you change the reach distance? 01:08 PilzAdam you noticed it? 01:09 Evergreen Yup 01:10 Smelly is nolan in here? 01:10 PilzAdam Smelly, there is a user list at the right 01:11 Smelly I know, I ask because he sometimes uses a different name 01:12 PilzAdam Im going to sleep, bye 01:21 Evergreen I gotta go 02:01 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7741832448/h9D4C88CD/ 02:14 Kacey Smelly, nolan doesnt appear to be here 02:19 kaeza asdf 02:20 VanessaE ahjfgewgfyewgfyew!! 02:20 VanessaE :) 02:20 kaeza channel is dead quiet tonight... 02:20 VanessaE yeah 02:39 XeroZero Guys making a cape mod 02:39 XeroZero Does a cape mod already exist? 02:41 kaeza like South Cape or like Batman's Cape? :P 02:41 kaeza english is weird 02:43 VanessaE I assumed he meant like superman's cape.. 03:09 aldobr hi all 03:09 VanessaE hi 03:09 ShadowNinja Hello. 03:09 aldobr kaeza i found a free 3d voxel editor 03:10 aldobr im trying to write a exporter to nodebox 03:10 aldobr sproxel 03:10 aldobr its scriptable in python 03:10 aldobr :D 03:15 aldobr oh hes afk 03:17 kaeza hai 03:25 kahrl minetest is a free 3d voxel editor :P 03:25 VanessaE I wondered how long it would take for someone to say that :) 03:26 aldobr :D 03:26 aldobr so how do you create nodeboxes using minetest ? 03:26 aldobr i mean, using mintest as the editor... 03:27 VanessaE use rubenwardy's nodebox editor 03:27 VanessaE or just hand-code them 03:27 VanessaE oh 03:27 VanessaE um 03:27 aldobr sproxel is already done 03:27 VanessaE actually wasn't someone working on a mod to do that, too? 03:27 aldobr just need a exporter in python 03:37 aldobr well, going to sleep 03:37 aldobr cyall 03:58 Smelly wow 03:58 Smelly I forgot to close this window 03:58 Smelly so much text 03:58 Smelly Well goodnight all 04:21 ShadowNinja Does Minetest have any nick length limits? And if so how long is it? 04:52 Miner_48er anyone designed a large mesecon gate? 04:52 khonkhortisan what do you mean? 04:53 khonkhortisan A physical gate, like a fence, or a logical gate made of many smaller gates? 04:54 Miner_48er physical 05:00 kaeza how large is large? 05:00 kaeza max I did was a 2x2 hidden gate :P 05:00 Miner_48er 4x4 05:05 Miner_48er could movestone do that? 05:32 ndjdjksisksk hi 05:32 ndjdjksisksk is anyone on 05:33 ndjdjksisksk this is my first tinme on irc 05:33 ndjdjksisksk um hi 05:35 Miner_48er hi 05:36 ndjdjksisksk hi miner 05:36 ndjdjksisksk am i on 05:36 ndjdjksisksk or am i disconnected 05:37 Miner_48er on 05:37 ndjdjksisksk ok 05:37 ndjdjksisksk is shadow minga on this chanel 05:37 ndjdjksisksk shadow ninga* 05:38 Miner_48er ShadowNinga 05:38 ndjdjksisksk sorry lol 05:38 Miner_48er *ShadowNinja 05:38 ndjdjksisksk i know 05:38 ndjdjksisksk i can't spell it lol 05:38 ndjdjksisksk oh and how do you usr irc in the serevr 05:38 ndjdjksisksk server 05:39 Miner_48er idk what the irc on the server connects to 05:39 ndjdjksisksk it connects to #minetest 05:40 ndjdjksisksk hi ch98 05:41 ndjdjksisksk why am i not getting responses 05:42 ndjdjksisksk um 05:42 ndjdjksisksk just a sec 05:44 ndjdjksisksk wow i am not getting responses 05:44 ShadowNinja ndjdjksisksk: I use the rewrite branch of kaeza's IRC mod connected to InchraNet. 05:46 ndjdjksisksk oh ok 05:47 ndjdjksisksk hey shadowninga did you see my issue i had on the server 05:47 ndjdjksisksk i am not banned because i am using different internet 05:47 ndjdjksisksk but still 05:48 ndjdjksisksk i love the creative server 05:49 ndjdjksisksk ? 05:49 ndjdjksisksk what? 06:00 ndjdjksisksk hi 06:01 ndjdjksisksk tseg hi 06:01 ndjdjksisksk seg 06:01 SegFault22 Finally finished building my other computer... had to swap the hard-drives a few times and upgrade the RAM... 06:01 ndjdjksisksk nice 06:01 ndjdjksisksk how much ram does it have 06:01 SegFault22 Guess what? I'm chatting from that computer now. Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 06:02 ndjdjksisksk tnice 06:02 SegFault22 Has 1023 MB of RAM 06:02 ndjdjksisksk ubuntu 06:02 SegFault22 I plan to make this the computer that will host my minetest server. 06:02 ndjdjksisksk O_O 06:02 ndjdjksisksk wow i will join it 06:02 SegFault22 Ubuntu = a flavor of Linux 06:03 SegFault22 But I must sleep now, for it is 2:00 AM where I am... 06:03 ndjdjksisksk ti know i used to have ubuntu 06:03 ndjdjksisksk it is 1 am where i am 06:03 SegFault22 Cool. 06:03 SegFault22 Well, goodbye. I must be leaving now. 06:04 ndjdjksisksk see you later 06:04 SegFault22 yup 06:04 ndjdjksisksk i am on the landrush server again i think 06:24 ndjdjksisksk hi 06:24 ndjdjksisksk hi 07:44 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106281#p106281 07:44 kaeza O_o 07:47 VanessaE *shakes head* 07:48 VanessaE why do so many people have trouble with this? 07:48 kaeza also, preemptive strike: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=7164 07:48 VanessaE is there just simply that many who try to run the game from within the zip? 07:48 kaeza VanessaE, Windows makes it look as if ZIPs were regular folders/directories 07:48 VanessaE that's whatI figured. 07:49 kaeza they even show up in the folder view in explorer 07:49 VanessaE broken virtual fs that can't actually write files 07:50 kaeza another of those great ideas from M$ 07:50 VanessaE it's all Calinou's fault anyway :) 07:50 kaeza (see also: "hide extension for known file types") 07:50 VanessaE mmhmm 07:51 Calinou "why do so many people have trouble with this?" 07:51 Calinou yesterday, in #minecrafthelp @ espernet I saw someone asking what's ethernet :P 07:51 kaeza *sigh* 07:52 VanessaE some people should not be allowed to own computers. 07:53 Calinou it's actually a basic right, and you can't do much against computer illiterates 07:53 VanessaE I suppose so and not...but still 07:54 NakedFury we need computer usage lisences 07:55 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106262#p106262 07:55 NakedFury much like a drivers lisence. 07:55 Calinou as if people weren't banned unfairly 07:55 VanessaE Calinou: -> trash 07:55 VanessaE (imho) 07:56 VanessaE posts like that one add nothing beneficial to the forums at all. 07:58 kaeza it belongs to the respective server's thread, or better yet: PM/e-mail 07:58 VanessaE exactly. 07:58 VanessaE pm/email specifically. 07:59 kaeza I've found that most of he time (if not always) these kinds of posts are just misbehaving users 07:59 kaeza the* 07:59 PenguinDad !up 200.127.96.9 07:59 MinetestBot 200.127.96.9:30000 seems to be down 07:59 sfan5 good morning 07:59 VanessaE morning. 07:59 kaeza and if the relevant server's admin(s) are jerks, well, don't play there 07:59 PenguinDad morning sfan5 08:00 kaeza morning sfan5, PenguinDad 08:00 Calinou hi 08:00 kaeza and of course Calinou :) 08:02 * Calinou adds BorisGrishenko to the list of bad intel IGP owners 08:15 kaeza "Useless dupplicate translation file" oh the irony 09:23 VanessaE bbl 09:26 DanDuncombe There is one thing which Minetest needs. Mountains. And not those titchy MgV7 Mountains. I mean real ones. Around 4000 nodes wide and at least 4000 nodes high. I mean REAL mountains. 09:36 Calinou it already has mountains 09:38 DanDuncombe Calinou: are they 4000 nodes across, and 4000+ nodes high? 09:38 Calinou no 09:38 Calinou that is unrealistic and bad gameplay-wise anyway 09:39 DanDuncombe 'Unrealistic' 09:39 Calinou there are very few in real life 09:39 DanDuncombe Real mountains can be several Kilometres across at the base 09:39 DanDuncombe And also, Minetest isn't real life 09:40 DanDuncombe I want something like the Beor mountains in the Eragon series, if you have ever read the books 09:40 DanDuncombe They are literally ~20 miles across at the base, maybe 15-20 miles high. 09:40 * sfan5 has seen the movie 09:41 DanDuncombe sfan5, the movie is nothing like the books really. Much less awesome. 09:41 sfan5 i know that book <-> movie is a big differejce 09:41 sfan5 difference* 09:42 DanDuncombe Yep.Read all the books. 09:44 DanDuncombe Could something similar to my 3d apples mod be default in Minetest? 09:45 Calinou read ALL the books! 09:45 DanDuncombe All the Eragon books in the series. 09:45 DanDuncombe There are 5 I think. 09:55 DanDuncombe I can read quickly if I want too. 09:56 DanDuncombe I once read 2 average sized novels per day. 11:04 jin_xi thexyz: what do you mean with this? http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-12-11#i_2706979 11:04 jin_xi sry to bring back up the old log... 11:11 thexyz jin_xi: engine can delete your entities if some limit is exceeded 11:12 thexyz jin_xi: this diff disables force deletion, then c55 tells me that this is bad because of entity duplication glitch 11:14 thexyz so you should always assume that there may be no entity (even if you created it in the past) 11:17 jin_xi but nothing that cant be fixed with a check if its still there and recreating it if not? 11:18 jin_xi thanks for the clarification 11:19 thexyz yes, I think 11:19 jin_xi i was wondering because im thinking of making another mod that needs dynamic textures 11:19 thexyz better to somehow tie entity to node, for example, by storing node position in entity 11:19 thexyz what is it? 11:20 jin_xi i really liked PilzAdams wireworld and wireworld in general 11:20 thexyz and store all data in node meta 11:20 thexyz because it's persistent 11:20 jin_xi so im gonna make a node with a 16x16 grid that simulates that and has a face which shows its state 11:21 thexyz oh, yeah, I found this interesting as well 11:22 jin_xi so id like to have it in a smaller formfactor and split larger things into nodes with signal connections 11:22 thexyz oh, that's great 11:22 thexyz now how laggy would it be 11:22 jin_xi very much so, but i dont care :P 11:24 thexyz you can make nodes, 2×2, and then there will be just 256 different states! 11:24 jin_xi and a lookup table 11:25 thexyz anyway, how are you going to make sure that all those are processed at the same time? 11:26 Jordach jin_xi: even better 11:26 Jordach make a small node that creates a 16 node gris 11:26 Jordach grid* 11:26 Jordach sort of like a projector of kinds (it removes dynamic texture!) 11:27 jin_xi thexyz: idk yet 11:27 thexyz what's the current state of "painting" btw? 11:27 jin_xi Jordach: did you see the small formfactor thing 11:28 jin_xi thexyz: its still in the same sorry state i left it, been thinking about relicensing it to WTFPL if thats ok with you 11:28 thexyz yeah, I'm fine with it 11:28 jin_xi cool 11:29 * Jordach has had an idea for a while 11:29 Jordach think hologram, and pixel art 11:29 jin_xi so it would need to be fixed to what you said above, regarding entities and storing stuff also it lacks some crafting recipes 11:30 jin_xi i kinda often fall victim to the 80/20 rule... its mostly there but i did other stuff lately 11:41 FreeFull thexyz: Maybe if you fix the entity duplication glitch c55 will accept getting rid of force deletion 11:45 thexyz maybe 11:48 PenguinDad sfan5[Mac]: VM? 11:49 sfan5[Mac] yep 11:51 sfan5 apparently my download speed is now 1.4 MB/s instead of 700 KB/s 11:53 thexyz i think sfan5 is ready to do some mac builds 11:53 sfan5[Mac] I initially attempted to get Irrlicht working on iOS 11:53 sfan5[Mac] it works fine but doesn't load textures 11:54 sfan5[Mac] well, .bmp doesn't work 11:54 sfan5[Mac] OR it doesn't render them 11:54 sfan5[Mac] I don't really know :S 11:54 Jordach Minetest on iOS 11:54 * Jordach drools 11:55 Jordach sfan5: that + iPad + good controls = awesome 11:57 PenguinDad Imagine HDX on retina display 11:57 sfan5[Mac] ¿o/ 11:57 sfan5[Mac] wait 11:57 sfan5[Mac] how do I make a backward slash.... 11:58 jin_xi \\\\\ 11:59 PenguinDad \o\o/o/ 11:59 sfan5[Mac] \o/ 11:59 sfan5[Mac] now I need to copy&paste a backward slash everytime... 11:59 thexyz minetest on ios would be a bad idea 12:00 sfan5[Mac] why? 12:00 thexyz because there's no minetest for android, why should there be one for ios? 12:00 thexyz that'd look like we don't support free software 12:00 sfan5[Mac] because the people messed the library dependency handling up when using JNI on android 12:00 sfan5[Mac] on iOS however you can just have a native executable and you are done 12:01 sfan5[Mac] I didn't even get Irrlicht to run on Android 12:02 PenguinDad I'm waiting for Tizen 12:02 thexyz well that was a joke anyway 12:03 thexyz support for any mobile device is a great opportunity for minetest to gain more attention 12:03 sfan5[Mac] because the minetest mobile version will not have reduced features like MCPE? 12:03 thexyz yeah 12:03 sfan5[Mac] s/the/a/ 12:03 sfan5[Mac] and modding support 12:03 thexyz but it will be unplayable 12:04 sfan5[Mac] but I doubt apple would allow the complete lua feature set (io module) in the App Store 12:04 thexyz unless someone implements touch controls 12:04 sfan5[Mac] but we'd need $99 for that anyway 12:04 thexyz and their appstore is not gpl-compliant 12:04 thexyz and 99$ ain't money 12:04 sfan5[Mac] Irrlicht has native touch & accerlometer support on iOS 12:05 thexyz yes but minetest doesn't 12:05 sfan5[Mac] that means to get the GUI working we don't need to do a thing(except redesigning to make it better for mobile devices) 12:06 sfan5[Mac] maybe you didn't understand me: Irrlicht translates the touch event to normal clicking events as if you were on a device with mouse 12:06 sfan5[Mac] events* 12:07 sfan5[Mac] then we would need a way of moving forward 12:07 sfan5[Mac] but even without that I could test it on my friends iPad since he has a keyboard for it 12:07 sfan5[Mac] s/way of moving forward/touch controls for actions done with keys/ 12:08 Jordach sfan5[Mac]: the iPad 2 is probably the lowest spec you should support 12:08 sfan5[Mac] Jordach: does it have armv7 processor? 12:09 sfan5[Mac] the new iOS SDKs only support ARMv7 12:09 sfan5[Mac] like my old iPod touch 2G, still has ARMv6 12:09 sfan5[Mac] hm 12:09 sfan5[Mac] I'm pretty sure the iPad 2 does 12:12 sfan5[Mac] IIRC >= iPod 3(except 8GB version) and >= iPad 2 and >= iPhone 4S have an ARMv7 processor 12:14 sfan5[Mac] ImageMagick finally finished installing... 12:27 sfan5[Mac] XCode finshed installing too... 12:28 Jordach in other news http://i.imgur.com/E37ZdNZ.png 12:31 sfan5[Mac] wow 12:31 sfan5[Mac] I really like this LimeChat feature 12:31 sfan5[Mac] It previews the image Jordach just posted directly inline 12:32 arsdragonfly cool 12:35 Jordach image or gtfo 12:36 sfan5[Mac] ... 12:36 kaeza Jordach, classic Windows theme? :3 12:37 Jordach kaeza: 6fps boost in blender 12:37 jin_xi is it a big chest? 12:37 Jordach jin_xi: nope 12:37 Jordach jin_xi: think painting on a larger scale 12:37 jin_xi ah 12:38 * Jordach would love 16x grid 12:38 Jordach but it's just way too big for that D: 12:42 jin_xi painting1 was like that, big formspec to place colors into 12:42 thexyz but that was too boring 12:44 Jordach you do realise i pixel art with nodes rather than with painting 12:44 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/mqKbYQD.png 12:44 jin_xi i do realize that 12:45 thexyz wow this makes me want to buy a mac 12:45 thexyz no, wait, it doesn't 12:45 sfan5[Mac] haha 12:45 thexyz fuck macs 12:45 sfan5[Mac] !g Limechat windows 12:45 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: http://limechat.net/mac/ 12:45 jin_xi lol, i bet erc and e[macs] can do that 12:46 sfan5[Mac] xcode crashed! 12:46 thexyz irssi has enough features for me 12:49 thexyz though sometimes I wish it had easier way to /dcc recieve a file 12:49 DanDuncombe When will the minetest menu incorporate the Minetest Mod database? 12:49 Jordach DanDuncombe: next update 12:49 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: it does already 12:49 DanDuncombe Cool 12:49 sfan5[Mac] (in latest git) 12:50 DanDuncombe sfan5 Not on the latest git I have, it doesn't 12:50 DanDuncombe I am probably not latest though 12:50 Jordach not literally hot-off-the-presses 12:50 DanDuncombe I Have: minetest-0.4.7-c893085-win32 12:51 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/72b9b0fe3a3c3ab920c1225cfe0c2bd02ca4be7b 12:51 Jordach ^ is latest 12:51 DanDuncombe Okay, but is it built for Windows already? 12:51 Jordach sfan5[Mac]: linky to your 30 mins builds 12:52 sfan5[Mac] 30 mins builds? 12:52 sfan5[Mac] you mean my windows builds? 12:52 DanDuncombe I think so 12:52 Jordach sfan5[Mac]: yup 12:52 sfan5[Mac] http://sfan.funpic.de/minetest-builds 12:52 sfan5[Mac] or alternatively 12:52 sfan5[Mac] !g sfan5 minetest builds 12:52 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1523&p=11 12:53 DanDuncombe Do any Win builds include my Mapper yet? 12:53 * Jordach noticed that all builds are provided by germans 12:55 sfan5[Mac] oh right 12:55 sfan5[Mac] lol 12:55 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: no 12:55 * DanDuncombe plonks default:nyancat on Jordach's head. 12:55 Jordach meow 12:55 * sfan5[Mac] throws a kitten at DanDuncombe 12:55 * DanDuncombe 12:56 Jordach two can play this game :D 12:56 * DanDuncombe 12:56 * DanDuncombe 12:56 Jordach lolololololololol 12:56 DanDuncombe Woops :) 12:56 Jordach i was actually going to prepare a kick 12:56 Jordach but ShadowBot beat me 12:57 * sfan5[Mac] will now test if Irrlicht's GUI system works on iOS 12:57 thexyz why wouldn't it? 12:57 sfan5[Mac] dunno 12:58 thexyz I mean, that'd be really stupid: to port irrlicht without gui 12:58 sfan5[Mac] It should also be pretty easy to make a wrapper to get minetest working without much changes 12:58 DanDuncombe The forum is practically empty righ now. 12:59 sfan5[Mac] since iOS requires 3 different functions: setting up the Irrlicht things, Rendering 1 Frame, Destroying all the Irrlicht things ("Shutting down...") 12:59 sfan5[Mac] vs. 1 function to do all in order 12:59 DanDuncombe Has anyone heard of the user iKeyZ? 12:59 sfan5[Mac] !sfu *iKeyZ* 13:00 MinetestBot iKeyZ New member 2 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 4 13:00 sfan5[Mac] no 13:00 DanDuncombe They were the 3rd ever user to join the forum 13:00 sfan5[Mac] thats nice 13:00 DanDuncombe According to the user list 13:00 DanDuncombe I am 45th in the No.of posts ranking 13:01 DanDuncombe !sfu *Dan Duncombe* 13:01 MinetestBot Dan Duncombe Member 578 posts, registered on 2013-05-09 | id: 5529 13:01 Calinou cool story :P 13:01 Jordach !sfu Jordach 13:01 MinetestBot Jordach Moderator 3,408 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332 13:01 Jordach >:D 13:02 DanDuncombe I only joined a short while ago. 13:02 DanDuncombe I first played Mt in 0.4.3 13:02 DanDuncombe As soon as I got it 0.4.4 came out :p 13:02 * sfan5[Mac] first played MT in 0.2 13:02 Calinou 0.2_20110704 13:03 DanDuncombe Minetest 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 or whatever seems shitty compared to 0.4.7 13:04 Calinou of course 13:04 Calinou linux 1.0 will also be shitty compared to linux 3.11 13:04 sfan5[Mac] ^^ 13:04 DanDuncombe Who has been on the 0.0.0.0.0.01 server? 13:04 sfan5[Mac] s/^^/^/ 13:04 thexyz !stfu 13:05 thexyz oh 13:05 Jordach MinetestBot: !stfw 13:05 Calinou we should have quinbot/redroid here 13:05 thexyz doesn't work 13:05 * Jordach always wondered who owns redroid 13:05 Calinou quin 13:05 Calinou he used to "be" the bot 13:05 Jordach ah 13:06 Calinou I found the source somewhere on pastebin but don't have it anymore 13:06 Jordach Calinou: i once asked that question in #wazuclan before 13:06 Jordach got kicked, Calinou style 13:06 sfan5[Mac] xcode seems to be a really nice IDE 13:06 thexyz what's quinbot/redroid? 13:06 sfan5[Mac] except thats its Mac-only 13:06 Jordach thexyz: join #redeclipse 13:06 Calinou join #redeclipse, say ~roulette several times and see 13:07 Jordach BOOM! 13:07 DanDuncombe I Did it and got kicked 13:07 Jordach it's a one hit wonder 13:07 DanDuncombe BANG! Your dead! 13:07 DanDuncombe 'DanDuncombe was kicked from #redeclipse by redroid [BANG! You're dead.]' 13:08 kaeza whose dead? 13:08 Jordach DanDuncombe is 13:08 kaeza Jordach, "whose", not "who's" :P 13:09 thexyz your 13:09 thexyz isn't this clear? 13:10 jin_xi sfan5[Mac]: try GNUstep with GORM... 13:10 sfan5[Mac] mhm 13:12 * Jordach wants redroid in here 13:12 thexyz I don't get it 13:12 DanDuncombe Who likes tunneling in MT? 13:12 thexyz so, the only feature is ~roulette? 13:12 kaeza ~quote 13:13 kaeza and some others 13:13 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:14 DanDuncombe Is there a minetest command to set your spawnpoint? 13:14 Calinou there is no help, there are commands nearly noone knows :P 13:15 Calinou DanDuncombe: not without mods 13:15 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: google is your friend 13:15 sfan5[Mac] hi PilzAdam 13:15 DanDuncombe I meant without mods 13:15 PilzAdam MAC!?!?! 13:15 PilzAdam /kick sfan5[Mac] 13:16 sfan5[Mac] its not a physical mac 13:16 Calinou DanDuncombe: /set static_spawnpoint X,Y,Z 13:16 sfan5[Mac] no way I would buy these overpriced things 13:16 Jordach !!op PilzAdam 13:16 Calinou there no /spawn command, but it makes you spawn at that coordinate when you die 13:17 KikaRz Hello people :) 13:18 DanDuncombe Sneak preview of my World In A Jar survival map 13:18 DanDuncombe http://s9.postimg.org/60g3uf0vj/screenshot_190165817.png 13:18 KikaRz nice 13:18 KikaRz what's the objective? 13:18 DanDuncombe To survive. 13:19 DanDuncombe There will be multiple jars 13:19 Jordach stealing my damn idea are you> 13:19 DanDuncombe And you will have hunger etc 13:19 * Jordach has another idea 13:19 DanDuncombe With the hud mod 13:19 KikaRz hmm... 13:19 KikaRz a bit strange 13:19 KikaRz and then? 13:19 DanDuncombe It is a whole world- dungeon, lava pool etc 13:19 KikaRz pfft. 13:19 DanDuncombe The idea is to use the jar world on a server 13:19 DanDuncombe And build from it 13:20 Jordach LogoSkyBlock works :D 13:20 sfan5[Mac] ofc it does 13:20 DanDuncombe See this 13:20 DanDuncombe http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/world-in-a-jar-survival-map/ 13:20 KikaRz ohai sfan5[Mac] ! 13:20 sfan5[Mac] ohai KikaRz ! 13:20 KikaRz you know where is VanessaE? 13:21 Jordach DanDuncombe: PMC sucks 13:21 DanDuncombe PMC? 13:21 KikaRz meh, world in a java isn't so nice. 13:21 DanDuncombe PlanetMineCraft? 13:21 kaeza lol 13:21 KikaRz no 13:21 DanDuncombe This is MT though, my version 13:21 kaeza world in a java 13:21 KikaRz kaeza, .jar = java 13:21 KikaRz '-' 13:22 kaeza makes sense :P 13:22 KikaRz Nice, net splits are better. 13:22 Jordach i didnt die, yay :D 13:23 DanDuncombe I've made the spawn jar, what next? Water Jar? 13:24 sfan5[Mac] lol 13:24 sfan5[Mac] MinetestBot! 13:24 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]! 13:24 KikaRz MinetestBot! 13:24 KikaRz pfft. Still ignored me 13:24 Jordach MinetestBot! 13:24 MinetestBot Jordach! 13:24 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 13:25 KikaRz Who remembers this? http://oi50.tinypic.com/9jj2ae.jpg 13:26 Jordach nope.avi 13:27 KikaRz I've said who remembers that 13:27 Calinou hi KikaRz 13:27 Calinou jar = java archive 13:27 KikaRz hi Calinou 13:27 KikaRz I know 13:27 Calinou or a bowl :P 13:27 KikaRz no 13:27 KikaRz jar = bowl of javater. 13:28 KikaRz javater = java water 13:28 Calinou of jarate! 13:28 KikaRz no 13:28 PilzAdam according to ragnar: jar = compiled java program 13:28 KikaRz team fortress 2 isn't for you 13:28 sfan5[Mac] jar = just a zipfile 13:28 DanDuncombe There will be a water jar 13:28 DanDuncombe Water globe then 13:29 DanDuncombe Desert 'jar' 13:29 DanDuncombe Forest 'jar' 13:29 KikaRz Who knows how to compile Minetest in windows? 13:29 Jordach DanDuncombe: go play LogoSkyBlock 13:29 DanDuncombe Any other Places to make? 13:29 PilzAdam New win32 build: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 13:29 DanDuncombe House Jar! 13:30 PilzAdam ^ fun fact: this is the most used link in this channel 13:30 KikaRz is it? *w* 13:30 Jordach sfan5[Mac]: bias the log thingy 13:30 Jordach remove PilzAdam's links 13:30 sfan5[Mac] .. 13:31 sfan5[Mac] soon: MinetestBot automagically announces when I make a new windows build 13:31 KikaRz Really??? 13:31 KikaRz O_O 13:32 KikaRz Nice! 13:32 Jordach is MinetestBot an autobot? 13:32 PilzAdam sfan5[Mac], no, thats stupid 13:32 sfan5[Mac] that was a joke 13:32 PilzAdam also remove the messages about meseons and worldedit repos, they are annoying 13:33 KikaRz omfg! 13:33 PilzAdam *mesecons 13:33 KikaRz Portuguese is fucked up! 13:33 sfan5[Mac] PilzAdam: anyone else share your opinion? 13:33 Semilevel www.themacuser.org 13:33 sfan5[Mac] !title 13:33 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: PilzAdam’s Minetest win32 builds (with GetText, cURL, TTF and LuaJIT) (Page 1) — General Discuss[...] 13:33 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: yes, I do! 13:33 KikaRz the áàéèíìóòçãẽĩõũâêîôû is fucked up 13:33 sfan5[Mac] MinetestBot: you don't count 13:33 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: yes, I do! 13:34 KikaRz fake. 13:34 sfan5[Mac] http://www.themacuser.org 13:34 sfan5[Mac] !title 13:34 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: The Typical Mac User 13:34 sfan5[Mac] MinetestBot: No you don't 13:34 KikaRz !title 13:34 DanDuncombe Worldedit won't work. 13:34 KikaRz lol, title for me is: No you don't 13:34 KikaRz '-' 13:35 sfan5 !unignore KikaRz 13:35 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list. 13:35 KikaRz ... I want perma-unignore MinetestBot. 13:35 sfan5 maybe 13:35 KikaRz Well, last time you used that, it didn't unignored me forever. 13:36 KikaRz LuaError detected. 13:36 KikaRz In the Favourites list 13:36 KikaRz when we press on the black part 13:36 KikaRz without favourite servers 13:36 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/7IMnyy5.png 13:37 Calinou *bleeding eyes while reading font* 13:38 KikaRz what font? 13:38 thexyz 1024x768 is what frightens me 13:38 Calinou windows and hexchat font 13:38 KikaRz ah... 13:38 KikaRz well, 1024x768 is the maximum for me 13:39 KikaRz Idk What system i must run. 13:39 KikaRz windows or linux. 13:39 KikaRz 3.x, 95, 98, 2000, ME, XP, VISTA, 7 or 8 13:40 KikaRz Debian, Ubuntu (12.04.2, 12.10, 10.04, 10.12, 8.2,) Crunchbang... 13:40 KikaRz Now I've got DVDS, I can record whatever OS i want 13:40 thexyz buy better monitor 13:40 KikaRz well, i've had 2 13:40 KikaRz but problem: They fricked out 13:40 KikaRz broke up. 13:41 thexyz how? 13:41 sfan5[Mac] yey! 13:41 sfan5[Mac] clicking buttons in Irrlicht works 13:41 KikaRz lol? 13:41 KikaRz thexyz, IDK... they just... turned black, and boom, almost blown up in my face. 13:42 KikaRz they were CRT. that big ass ones. 13:42 DanDuncombe The three completed jars so far http://s21.postimg.org/j9q43v0tj/screenshot_191680958.png 13:42 thexyz KikaRz: well buy a good one then? 13:42 thexyz or at least, any but CRT 13:42 KikaRz Well, no money thexyz. 13:43 DanDuncombe I will do a wintry forest jar next 13:43 thexyz uh -( 13:43 KikaRz DanDuncombe, stop robbing other people's ideas. 13:43 DanDuncombe Are there placeable snow slabs yet? 13:44 DanDuncombe Found them :) 13:44 KikaRz !title 13:44 MinetestBot KikaRz: Document isn't HTML 13:44 KikaRz Yay. 13:45 KikaRz I don't use HTML, I use PHP and css. 13:47 KikaRz omg 13:47 KikaRz my windows font is like... flickerign a lot 13:47 KikaRz with game opened 13:48 DanDuncombe Can I make saplings grow instantly? 13:49 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, in src/content_abm.cpp change the time and chance to 1 and compile 13:49 DanDuncombe Can't be bothered. I'll just build a tree instead 13:51 Jordach DanDuncombe: i waited for my sapling to grow 13:51 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Allow SIGINT to kill mainmenu again ade70fe4b9 2013-08-19T06:49:36-07:00 http://git.io/wrd0jQ 13:51 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: World config dialog: Use engine determined path for game mods 4242782dc2 2013-08-19T06:49:36-07:00 http://git.io/9f3A-Q 13:51 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: GUIFormSpecMenu focus fixes 8548bb75b6 2013-08-19T06:49:36-07:00 http://git.io/nazK8w 13:51 DanDuncombe Jordach: I am making custom shaped trees 13:51 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/7IMnyy5.png 13:52 KikaRz Who can fix that ? Favourites lsit 13:52 KikaRz *list 13:53 KikaRz does lava destroy items dropped? 13:53 KikaRz *dropped items? 13:54 Jordach no 13:54 KikaRz meh 13:54 KikaRz there are any 13:54 KikaRz Hoppers? 13:54 * Calinou hops away 13:54 KikaRz lol. 13:55 KikaRz there are or not? 13:55 Jordach this isn't minecraft 13:55 KikaRz not about minecraft 13:55 KikaRz but yes about technic 13:55 KikaRz or something 13:55 Jordach if you ask for horses, i'll literally !op 13:55 KikaRz and if I ask for pigs? 13:56 KikaRz :P 13:56 KikaRz Kidding 13:56 Jordach PilzAdam: noticed the topic today? 13:56 PilzAdam yes? 13:56 Jordach Sandwich of the day: Club 13:57 KikaRz i prefer mcdonald but without hamburguers. 13:57 * Jordach prefers Subway 13:57 KikaRz !title git.io/9f3A-q 13:57 MinetestBot KikaRz: Can't connect to http://git.io/9f3A-q 13:57 KikaRz !title sfan5 13:57 MinetestBot KikaRz: Can't connect to http://sfan5 13:58 KikaRz !title google.com 13:58 MinetestBot KikaRz: Google 13:58 KikaRz hmmm, now i know whats this about 13:58 Jordach KikaRz: stop abusing the bot 13:58 sfan5 !ignore KikaRz 13:58 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' added to ignore list. 13:58 KikaRz I'm not abusing 13:58 sfan5 *dng* 13:58 KikaRz -.- 13:58 sfan5 *ding 13:58 KikaRz noobs. 13:58 sfan5 !op sfan5[Mac] 13:58 kaeza boobs 13:59 KikaRz sfan5, you just did !title without nothing on front, and it just said that you were the usual user of mac. 13:59 KikaRz I was thinking that title was about each one title 13:59 sfan5[Mac] KikaRz: title displays the title of the link last posted/you give to it 13:59 sfan5[Mac] kaeza: toast 13:59 sfan5[Mac] also see: 13:59 sfan5[Mac] !help 13:59 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 13:59 KikaRz I've posted a photo. 13:59 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/7IMnyy5.png 13:59 sfan5[Mac] !title 13:59 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: Document isn't HTML 14:00 sfan5[Mac] ^ see 14:00 KikaRz !title. 14:00 sfan5[Mac] ? 14:00 KikaRz !title 14:00 KikaRz pfft. 14:00 sfan5[Mac] it says "Document isn't HTML" 14:00 KikaRz wait... 14:00 KikaRz http://github.com 14:00 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix gettext for tabs (windows) deaa8dc287 2013-08-19T06:59:09-07:00 http://git.io/hYUmyQ 14:00 sfan5[Mac] !title 14:00 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: GitHub · Build software better, together. 14:00 KikaRz hm 14:01 kaeza !stfu *KikaRz* 14:01 kaeza whoops 14:01 kaeza !sfu *KikaRz* 14:01 MinetestBot KikaRz New member 6 posts, registered on 2012-03-21 | id: 1522 14:01 sfan5 !unignore KikaRz 14:01 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list. 14:01 KikaRz kaeza... 14:02 Jordach !sfu Jordach 14:02 MinetestBot Jordach Moderator 3,409 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332 14:02 * Jordach wants the 10,000 mark 14:02 KikaRz So, where is celeron? 14:02 * sfan5[Mac] wants a cookie 14:02 Jordach hiding 14:02 sfan5[Mac] KikaRz: #minetest-dev 14:02 * Jordach hands sfan5 a cookie 14:02 * sfan5 noms the cookie 14:02 * KikaRz hands sfan5 a package of cookies 14:02 Jordach Mac's don't deserve cookies, as they only eat apples................................ 14:03 kaeza Cookie Jar! 14:03 * sfan5[Mac] noms the cookies in the package 14:03 sfan5[Mac] sfan5! 14:03 sfan5 sfan5[Mac]! 14:03 kaeza lol 14:03 * MaxPayne wonders what minetest is 14:03 sfan5[Mac] !g what is minetest 14:03 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: http://minetest.net/ 14:03 sfan5[Mac] ^ MaxPayne 14:04 DanDuncombe Does the hud mod have hunger? 14:05 MaxPayne Ah ty 14:05 DanDuncombe If so, does it work with bread? 14:05 kaeza :| 14:05 DanDuncombe Also, latest update of WIAJ: Snow Jar http://s24.postimg.org/5l2t44dyd/screenshot_193051579.png 14:06 sfan5[Mac] the trees look like they come from MC 14:07 DanDuncombe A) Yes B) They are meant to be pine or spruce trees 14:08 DanDuncombe So far: Snow forest jar, spawn jar, desert jar, water jar. Anything else? Maybe an abandoned hut jar... 14:10 DanDuncombe Maybe, Jam Jar? 14:11 sfan5[Mac] cookie jar 14:11 MaxPayne Lol 14:12 sfan5 derp 14:14 DanDuncombe What about a cloud house? A house built in the clouds... 14:16 thexyz sfan5: what's the progress with irrlicht? 14:22 sfan5[Mac] thexyz: button pressing works 14:23 sfan5[Mac] I'll try to write a wrapper now that allows easy integrating with the existing code 14:23 thexyz you mean, Minetest launches and works? 14:23 sfan5[Mac] no 14:23 sfan5[Mac] but I think it will 14:23 sfan5[Mac] Textures still don't load/render 14:24 DanDuncombe Should the clouds for the cloud house be made of white wool or actual cloud? 14:24 thexyz everything apart from textures work then? 14:24 sfan5[Mac] yes 14:24 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: /me suggests default:cloud 14:24 DanDuncombe Okay, thanks 14:25 thexyz oh, that's great 14:25 DanDuncombe Should the house have chests with stuff in and furnaces, or be empty? 14:25 thexyz sfan5[Mac]: I think you should create a pull request after making your changes 14:26 sfan5[Mac] thexyz: the changes to minetest will be minimal 14:26 sfan5[Mac] I plan on running the main thing in a seperate thread 14:27 sfan5[Mac] and it will call wrapper_waitForViewWillAppear(); or while(wrapper_waitForUpdateDisplay()) { /* Rendering code */ } 14:27 thexyz in any case they should be in git 14:27 thexyz in main repo 14:27 sfan5[Mac] these methods will then set the thread to sleep 14:28 sfan5[Mac] when the viewWillAppear / updateDisplay event is fired in the other thread it will wake the sleeping thread 14:29 sfan5[Mac] so it should just be like 3 or 4 extra lines per use of createDevice() from Irrlicht 14:29 thexyz still, do you have any reasons not to have this code in main repo? 14:29 sfan5[Mac] do we want ObjC in the main repo? 14:30 sfan5[Mac] well 14:30 sfan5[Mac] we'd need the complete XCode project folder 14:30 sfan5[Mac] (just for the wrapper) 14:30 sfan5[Mac] .. 14:30 sfan5[Mac] minetest too 14:30 sfan5[Mac] cmake generates xcode project files, doesn't it? 14:30 thexyz keep stuff that cannot be auto-regenerated 14:31 sfan5[Mac] regenerating the project file for the wrapper would be unneccesary since they won't change often 14:31 sfan5[Mac] s/they/it/ 14:32 thexyz at the same time storing files that can be generated automatically isn't necessary either 14:32 sfan5[Mac] that are future decisions anyway, I need to write the wrapper first 8) 14:33 sfan5[Mac] but it should be done in 1 - 2 hours 14:34 sfan5[Mac] its only copying files over from IrrlichtExample.xcodeproject and adjusting them 14:36 DanDuncombe The cloud house: http://s10.postimg.org/k1kvsns2h/screenshot_194943168.png 14:36 sfan5[Mac] nice 14:37 DanDuncombe Thanks 14:38 DanDuncombe Watching the beutiful sunset...http://s14.postimg.org/cfiupqto1/screenshot_195063888.png 14:40 DanDuncombe The map is just about complete I would say. This is the whole map pretty much: http://s12.postimg.org/qvcxy25jx/screenshot_195150428.png 14:42 sfan5[Mac] is the cloud house so large, or does it only look like it is so large? 14:43 DanDuncombe It is not that big really 14:43 DanDuncombe 5 Nodes long inside 14:43 DanDuncombe and 3 wide inside 14:45 DanDuncombe What does the 'privs' privelege do? 14:48 thexyz sfan5[Mac]: I'd prefer to include those files in source tree then 14:49 sfan5[Mac] it has to be done a bit differently 14:49 sfan5[Mac] the code I'm currently writing is technically an App which needs to be linked with Minetest(as static library) and its dependencies 14:50 sfan5[Mac] so the .xcodeproject file would need to be adjusted 14:50 sfan5[Mac] well 14:50 sfan5[Mac] not really 14:50 sfan5[Mac] Minetest, Irrlicht and the rest could be linked to a static library that is in a specific place all the time 14:51 DanDuncombe The hud mod is by blockmen right? 14:52 DanDuncombe What does the 'privs' privelege do? 14:52 Calinou it lets you add and remove privs 14:52 Calinou basic_privs is same thing, but only for interact and shout 14:53 DanDuncombe So, if I wanted to disable all cheating in a singleplayer map, which privs should I have in auth.txt 14:53 Calinou interact and shout 14:53 DanDuncombe Only them? Ok 14:53 PilzAdam sinleplayer has is always an admin 14:53 DanDuncombe Even when 'server' priv is removed? 14:53 PilzAdam it cant be removed 14:54 DanDuncombe When removed from auth.txt? 14:54 sfan5[Mac] nope 14:54 sfan5[Mac] any client from localhost always has ALL privs and they are non-revokeable 14:54 DanDuncombe Oh well. I can just tell peopleto not cheat I guess. 14:54 kaeza only way is rewriting/overriding the /grant command :D 14:54 sfan5[Mac] same with a client whose name is the same as the "name" thing in minetest.conf 14:54 sfan5[Mac] s/thing/setting/ 14:55 PilzAdam lol s/setting/thing/g 15:01 rubenwardy Hi all 15:11 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106325#p106325 15:20 DanDuncombe For anyone who just joined: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106325#p106325 15:21 Jordach tl;dr. notbad.png 15:23 rubenwardy kaeza: I recommend you update the ctf game on your server 15:24 kaeza ? 15:24 kaeza I have no server O_o 15:24 DanDuncombe Do you mean Mito551? 15:27 sfan5[Mac] *ding* 15:27 sfan5[Mac] appwraper thing is done 15:27 sfan5[Mac] appwrapper* 15:29 sfan5[Mac] time to get minetest working on iOS 15:30 DanDuncombe Making it an app?! 15:30 rubenwardy oh, mittori 15:33 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: yes 15:33 DanDuncombe AWESOME! 15:33 DanDuncombe When will it be on the appstore?! 15:35 Jordach probably never. 15:35 ShadowNinja sfan5[Mac]: What about your fixes for Android? Can those be merged? 15:35 * Jordach thinks it needs Cydia 15:36 sfan5[Mac] ShadowNinja: I don't think we want fixes for the broken android libc 15:38 Kacey bbl 15:39 rubenwardy *mitori 15:40 Jordach lol 16:03 sfan5[Mac] !g minetest mac site:github.com 16:03 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: https://github.com/toabi/minetest-mac/downloads 16:03 sfan5[Mac] :/ 16:18 rubenwardy Any comments about capture the flag? 16:19 andersje what's capture the flag? 16:19 andersje (in regards to minetest that is) 16:19 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6947 16:21 rubenwardy kaeza: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106126#p106126 16:21 andersje wow, that looks extensive 16:23 kaeza rubenwardy, on it 16:31 DanDuncombe Does anyone know of a mod that adds a mining machine that digs vertically down and actually works? 16:32 andersje does the old tunneling machine mod not work? 16:32 andersje (not that I've tried it -- my kids would get up to too much mischief with it) 16:32 DanDuncombe The tunneling machine works fine- especially the modified one in camo. 16:33 DanDuncombe It has an inventory to store the items, and special slots for rails etc 16:33 andersje but it doesn't go down? 16:33 DanDuncombe Nope. 16:33 DanDuncombe There was a mod that adds a vertical miner. 16:33 DanDuncombe I can't find it though. 16:33 andersje part of the workers mod? 16:34 DanDuncombe No... It was mesecon powered 16:35 andersje i must never have run across it 16:35 DanDuncombe Got it- https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5550 16:36 andersje cool. 16:38 DanDuncombe You need to add a depends.txt for it to work though. You have to add default to the depends. 16:38 andersje is there any sort of projected date on 0.4.8? 16:39 DanDuncombe 0.4.8 will come out when it is completely or mostly incompatible with 0.4.7 I believe 16:40 andersje I was just wondering if there were any guesstimates as to when that'd be. I'm not waiting on any features, just curious. 16:41 DanDuncombe Probably within the month 16:42 PilzAdam bbl 17:09 DanDuncombe Are luacontroller supposed to have facedir? 17:10 DanDuncombe They always face the same direction. 17:12 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: No. 17:19 DanDuncombe So B port,for example, always faces the same way? 17:21 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Yes. 17:21 DanDuncombe Okay 17:23 Miner_48er !up 75.131.40.131 30000 17:23 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down 17:24 DanDuncombe Isn that Vazon's server? 17:24 Miner_48er yes 17:25 DanDuncombe I couldn't logon either... 17:25 DanDuncombe Do you play on VanessaE's server? 17:26 DanDuncombe Hi 17:26 Miner_48er no I've toured it before 17:26 nore hi 17:26 DanDuncombe Who develops pipeworks right now? 17:26 DanDuncombe 'cause I've had an idea. 17:27 nore VanessaE, Uberi/Temperest, hdastwb and me 17:27 nore what's your idea? 17:27 DanDuncombe I was thinkin: A node that checks whether an adjacent furnace has fuel in it or not, if none, then it sends out mesecon(for auto-fuel-restocking) 17:28 nore well, what I made until now was to put a lot of items in the fuel slot, so that if the furnace is full, no new items will be sent, and they go to a chest 17:29 nore but we can make an inventory-detector, need to think 17:29 DanDuncombe Okay 17:30 DanDuncombe Who likes the soldier NPCs in camo mod? 17:31 nore kaeza: May I st... borrow your screen model and textures of your computer mod for my mod please? 17:31 kaeza nore, sure 17:31 nore thanks 17:32 kaeza I think I released the whole mod as WTFPL, so do what...you want with it :P 17:33 andersje does anyone know...has there been a steel ladders mod made ever? when deep mining, ladders that didn't burn would be nice... 17:33 DanDuncombe nore: Try this nodebox (One I made) http://pastebin.com/Wr5vabBq 17:50 Evergreen I know this isn't a good way to say hello, but I really hate nolan 17:50 Calinou "haters gonna hate", as they said 17:50 Evergreen Yup 17:50 Evergreen Honestly, he changed his story multiple times, and acted like no one noticed 17:51 sfan5[Mac] Minetest will hopefully run on iOS today 17:51 Calinou including multiplayer? mods? 17:51 Calinou non-jailbroken iOS? :P 17:52 sfan5[Mac] full version (multiplayer, mods, everything from latest git); not yet 17:52 andersje whois is nolan? 17:52 Calinou some guy on the Minetest forums 17:52 sfan5[Mac] we would need a more restrictive lua io module for apple to allow Minetest on the appstore anyway 17:52 sfan5[Mac] and $99 17:53 andersje I'd pony up the $99. 17:53 andersje even though I don't have a Mac. 17:53 * sfan5[Mac] doesn't have a Mac either 17:54 Calinou buy a pony for $99! 17:54 sfan5[Mac] nah 17:54 Calinou we would need a more restrictive lua io module for apple to allow Minetest on the appstore anyway 17:54 Calinou they would never allow it, regardless 17:54 sfan5[Mac] why? 17:54 andersje hey, this is maybe a weird thing to say, but has anyone considered offering an alternatively titled WTFPL: "Well That's Fine Public License" ? I only ask because I've got young kids. =) 17:54 Calinou unless you made a locked-in in-game mod store, where you can only get the mods through modmgr 17:54 sfan5[Mac] well 17:54 Calinou andersje: don't try to avoid swear words on the internet 17:55 Calinou it ends up in things being "fuked up". 17:55 andersje yeah, I know. I'm just trying to avoid that as long as i can. 17:55 sfan5[Mac] we have an ingame mod manager anyway 17:55 sfan5[Mac] so that wouldn't be the problem 17:57 Calinou yes, but it'd need to be locked down and stuff 17:57 Calinou on top of that, the content is freely licensed 17:57 Calinou apple doesn't like that 17:57 andersje :s/ly licensed/dom/g 17:57 andersje FTFY 17:58 * andersje hrms. 17:58 andersje I fixed that poorly. 17:58 Calinou apple and freedom make two 17:58 * Exio4 applies s/.*// over andersje 17:58 andersje :s/\(apple\).*/\1 hates choice./g 17:58 sfan5[Mac] apparently IRC is the same as vim 17:58 sfan5[Mac] Calinou: define "locked down" 17:58 sfan5[Mac] apple is fine with open source things 17:59 Calinou not really 17:59 DanDuncombe I hate Technic mod. 17:59 andersje yes, irc and vim are interchangeable ;) or ed. 17:59 andersje why not distribute a brew module for minetest? 17:59 kaeza loled 17:59 Evergreen Anyone know why there isn't a notification sound in qaussel? I chose a sound to play, but it doesn't work 17:59 DanDuncombe 'cause you need Moretrees. 17:59 andersje then it's not in the store, but it's still available. 17:59 DanDuncombe MORETREES SUCKS. 17:59 andersje whats wrong with moretrees? 17:59 Evergreen Why you be so mean? D: 17:59 Calinou lots of leaves = slow 18:00 andersje ah. 18:00 Calinou it can be good, but you need a good PC :P 18:00 Calinou or disable "fancy trees" 18:00 Evergreen That isn't VanessaE's fault 18:00 Calinou (ugly, though) 18:00 kaeza define good PC 18:00 Calinou a decent dedicated graphics card 18:00 andersje I've got a half-dozen worlds running a server, but it still falls behind when the kids insist on flying around in fast mode. 18:00 DanDuncombe I get so much lag, I have 2 fps max, and I sometimes have to wait 5 minutes before a mined node actually appears in the inventory. 18:00 Exio4 Calinou: VBO 18:00 Calinou well, you have a slow PC 18:00 DanDuncombe BECAUSE OF MORETREES 18:01 Miner_48er Dan modify technic to use something else if you don't like using moretrees 18:01 Calinou Exio4: the performance difference is actually small, Taok¡ tried it 18:01 DanDuncombe What about cactus, drops latex? 18:01 andersje DanDuncombe: man, what's your hardware? 18:01 Exio4 Calinou: the performance difference is actuall small but as long as you add more stuff to draw, VBO gets 'faster' than the actual way 18:02 DanDuncombe Is Latex the only Moretrees dependant thing in Technic? 18:02 Exio4 Calinou: (PA tried to draw a jungle with the VBO patch he was able to get more than 5FPS) 18:02 kaeza his PC must suck 18:02 DanDuncombe Guys, is the latex the onlymoretrees dependant thing? 18:03 Calinou ah 18:03 Calinou you mean "current" and not "actual" by the way 18:03 Calinou andersje: he has some netbook 18:03 DanDuncombe I have a netbook, yes 18:03 DanDuncombe I normally get 15-20 fps 18:03 DanDuncombe On Windows 18:04 DanDuncombe On linux 5-8fps 18:04 Calinou 20FPS is very low 18:04 Calinou intel doesn't take drivers for atoms seriously 18:04 andersje if I turn off all the graphics options on my dell mini10, I can get about 20fps 18:04 Calinou can't do anything against that 18:04 andersje my eee904 hovers around 30 18:04 andersje both running xubuntu 13.04 18:04 DanDuncombe Guys, what are the moretrees dependancies in Technic? 18:04 Calinou constant 60 on my PC here, everything maxed, 128 view distance 18:04 Exio4 i'm pretty sure i could be able to get more FPS in the old sempron with the nvidia igp than your netbook 8) 18:04 Calinou if I don't limit I get 100-200 18:04 andersje my PC runs > 60, but it's a big PC. 18:05 Calinou no need for a big PC today 18:05 DanDuncombe I have around 20 nodes view distance 18:05 Calinou celeron G1610 + GTX 650 will do fine, and I don't call that "big PC" :P 18:05 andersje well, a gtx650 is nothing to bark at 18:05 DanDuncombe And what are the moretrees dependencies of technic, please??? 18:05 andersje Calinou: my sons absolutely adore your mithril stuff, btw 18:05 andersje and the tin blocks, et al 18:05 andersje they're bummed that those didn't make it into core game. 18:06 Calinou :D 18:08 DanDuncombe Does Technic actually need moretrees? 18:08 andersje DanDuncombe: have you grep'd through the lua files for references to moretrees? 18:09 DanDuncombe I am right now 18:09 * Calinou also runs xubuntu 13.04 18:09 Calinou it's what chromium is to chrome :> 18:10 DanDuncombe It seems Technic doesn't need moretrees at all. 18:10 andersje I've managed to keep my kids on minetest up until now ,but my youngest just got a licensed copy of minecraft for his birthday, so I'm going to have to step up my "Install All The Mods" game on the various minetest worlds. 18:11 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: It needs it for rubber trees. 18:11 DanDuncombe But it already has rubber tree spawn code 18:11 DanDuncombe And I have added the bool: enable_rubber_tree_generation = true to minetest.conf 18:11 DanDuncombe SO it should workanyway 18:13 andersje DanDuncombe: you can also try a more minimal windowmanager on your netbook. fluxbox/openbox should give you better framerates than xfce. 18:14 DanDuncombe andersje: I haven't heard of any of them. 18:14 andersje they're old. like, pre-21st century old. 18:14 andersje but, accordingly, they need very little hardware. 18:15 andersje openbox/fluxbox still run, and are pretty much maintained, if not expanded 18:15 andersje hey, is there anyway to tell the origin IP when someone joins a minetest server? 18:16 Calinou in the console, you can see it 18:16 Calinou andersje: with compositing off, all the DEs give very similar framerates 18:16 andersje thx 18:16 Calinou and if playing with real fullscreen there's no difference 18:16 andersje good to know 18:16 Calinou xfce generally has good performance with compositing, but gives more tearing in games for me 18:17 Calinou more noticeable 18:20 andersje I tend to run fluxbox or openbox (they're choices for the graphical environment, once oyu do an apt-get install on them) on my netbooks just because they're...well...smaller. 18:26 DanDuncombe Why do I always spawn in deserts?! 18:26 Peacock because camels 18:26 Peacock i wish i could spawn in desserts, new york cheesecake is my favourite 18:27 DanDuncombe When there is a 'getbool' in lua, is the correct way to enable it 'bool_name_here = true' in minetest.conf? 18:27 khonkhortisan You can write a small script that creates a world, starts minetest, asks you if it's a desert, then recreates the world and restarts minetest if it is 18:27 Peacock well you can just worldedit the desert to grass too lol 18:28 Peacock or change the frequency of deserts in mapgen.lua 18:28 DanDuncombe Also, can I have moretrees without lag? 18:28 Peacock yeah, disable the ongen portion, make them spawn using after_place_node 18:29 DanDuncombe Is there a simple way of doing it? 18:29 Peacock how much simpler does it need to be? 18:29 DanDuncombe Basically, can I have technic without moretrees-based lag? 18:29 Peacock remove the dependency from the list 18:29 DanDuncombe But then I can't get rubber... 18:29 Peacock find or create another source of rubber 18:29 DanDuncombe Or 18:30 DanDuncombe I will make cactus drop rubber as well as cactus 18:30 Peacock do the little green weeds give anything? make those drop rubber 18:30 DanDuncombe Ok 18:30 Peacock cactus could drop peyotle lol 18:31 DanDuncombe Cactus rubber FTW lol. 18:31 Peacock a bunch of passed out, trippy SAMS ensues lol 18:31 DanDuncombe Can I make cactus drop rubber AND cactus? 18:31 Peacock yeah 18:31 Peacock look at the default leaves, that drops two items 18:31 DanDuncombe Ok 18:32 Peacock i do wish there was a simpler, light mod that combines elements of technic and mesecons 18:32 Peacock running either would kill my performance 18:33 DanDuncombe What is the name of raw latex? technic:raw_latex? 18:34 Peacock dont know 18:34 DanDuncombe BlockMen, what is the code name for technic latex? 18:35 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: look in the code :P 18:35 BlockMen DanDuncombe, dunno 18:36 DanDuncombe I can't find it in the code 18:38 Miner_48er use the search box at the top of the page 18:38 DanDuncombe Rubber is technic:rubber 18:38 DanDuncombe But is latex technic:raw_latex? 18:39 Miner_48er https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/2c0c98185ec8f381ba5a4a6c1779565d257dacca/technic/tools/tree_tap.lua 18:39 DanDuncombe Ah, technic:raw_latex 18:40 DanDuncombe Well, I have removed moretrees dependency with my homemade mod,'cactus_rubber' 18:40 Sokomine oh, the celeron does fine by itshelf already :-) don't really need an extra graphics card for minetest 18:41 Peacock lol "the celeron" made me think of "the Picard" from tng lol 18:42 PenguinDad :D 18:44 Sokomine farming_plus also has rubber trees. don't know if technic can use them 18:44 sfan5[Mac] now: compiling Minetest for iOS 18:44 DanDuncombe I just use cacti now 18:48 DanDuncombe This is my extensive code for cactus_rubber: http://pastebin.com/hpQs1rU4 18:55 andersje is there an option to get the minetestserver to log date as well as time to stdout ? 19:01 DanDuncombe Just had dinner :) 19:02 DanDuncombe How do I set my leave message? 19:04 sfan5[Mac] DanDuncombe: what irc client do you use? 19:04 DanDuncombe I use the website in Firefox 19:07 DanDuncombe sfan5[Mac] 19:07 DanDuncombe Sorry 19:07 DanDuncombe Didn't mean to say that 19:07 sfan5[Mac] ? 19:07 sfan5[Mac] use a real irc client 19:07 sfan5[Mac] webchat is not made to be a full-featured client 19:08 BlockMen current state of new inv-formspec: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qzliusme46h4cfs/inv_rework4.png 19:08 sfan5[Mac] BlockMen: nice 19:09 andersje BlockMen: that looks nice 19:10 BlockMen thx. best is that it is kinda costumizable 19:11 andersje will that break inventory+ and inventory++ then? 19:11 BlockMen nope 19:11 andersje yay! 19:13 DanDuncombe Is it gloopores that make normal ores spawn in deserts? 19:15 PenguinDad Yes 19:15 DanDuncombe K 19:16 DanDuncombe Who thinks 'THEGGABOOK77' is a weird name? 19:19 Evergreen Md 19:19 Evergreen *me 19:20 Evergreen Also, why does he have to use red, underlibe, and bold in every topic he posts 19:20 Evergreen It make me gag, awful graphic design 19:21 Evergreen If you are going to use color, use it correctly 19:23 DanDuncombe He uses huge, red and blue letters, and states the obvious. He is also in love with capitals. 19:24 Miner_48er what does buggy caves mean? 19:25 LazyJ In the minetest.conf.example 19:25 LazyJ buggy caves is mentioned in one of the config tweaks. How buggy? 19:25 Miner_48er num_emerge_threads = 19:26 andersje will mobf and mobs co-exist? 19:26 DanDuncombe Yes they can 19:26 andersje woot! 19:26 DanDuncombe Incredibly laggy though 19:26 DanDuncombe And mobf crashes Minetest at night 19:27 sfan5[Mac] minetest for iOS comppiling... 19:27 sfan5[Mac] -p 19:27 DanDuncombe Can someone close this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106382#p106382 19:28 Calinou he should host an AMA on reddit 19:28 * Calinou gallops away 19:28 BlockMen sfan5, minetest for iOS? 19:28 BlockMen that works? 19:28 andersje so mobf is highly unreliable? 19:28 sfan5[Mac] Irrlicht works fine on iOS 19:29 sfan5[Mac] do why shouldn't Minetest work? 19:29 Calinou would sound work? 19:29 Calinou not that needed, but still 19:30 DanDuncombe mobf is good, but has many bugs 19:30 sfan5[Mac] there is AL on iOS too 19:30 sfan5[Mac] so yes 19:30 DanDuncombe Is there a fix for the inventory-image bug? 19:30 sfan5[Mac] curl and gettext should also work 19:32 DanDuncombe Please can a moderator close this? Genuinely? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6971 19:33 Calinou lol 19:35 sfan5[Mac] !title 19:35 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: Forum message — Minetest Forums 19:36 Miner_48er !help 19:36 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 19:38 ShadowNinja sfan5[Mac]: Required arguments are enclosed in { and }, optional arguments are enclosed in [ and ] <-- Shouldn't it be <> and []? 19:41 DanDuncombe Why is technic so laggy? 19:42 DanDuncombe It is damn annoying. 19:43 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: It has a whoe bunch of ABMs, and it traverses the entire network on every step. BTW, can you test the 'rewrite' branch? 19:43 DanDuncombe Are you asking me to test the rewrite branch? 19:44 DanDuncombe or someone else? 19:44 DanDuncombe Wait... I remove dirt from my inventory, and boom. framerate goes up loads. I hate dirt. 19:45 sfan5[Mac] ShadowNinja: if I used < and > I would've needed to escape everything 19:45 Miner_48er sfan5[Mac] minetestbot is missing a license 19:46 sfan5[Mac] hm, right 19:46 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Yes, I am asking you to test the rewrite branch. 19:46 andersje why would dirt hork up your framerate? 19:46 DanDuncombe Okay. Branch of what mod? 19:46 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Of technic. 19:47 DanDuncombe Okay, will do now. 19:47 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Make sure to backup your world first, just in case. 19:47 DanDuncombe BTW, what is the difference between normal and 'rewrite'? 19:48 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: I rewrote the way a lot of machines worked, fixed coding style, make the code a lot smaller, etc. 19:48 BlockMen sfan5, havent thought that irrlicht works on iOS. but cool :) 19:48 DanDuncombe Okay. I will try it now. 19:48 ShadowNinja I also fixed some bugs. 19:49 DanDuncombe How up to date is it compared to master? 19:49 PenguinDad ShadowNinja: does that mean it is faster? 19:50 DanDuncombe ShadowNinja: You say it is more compact code, yet the overall file is bigger. Why? 19:51 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Id may be slightly faster, but I didn't do a lot with the slow code yet. Not sure what you mean by that. 19:51 ShadowNinja 120 files changed, 5690 insertions(+), 7977 deletions(-) 19:52 DanDuncombe I mean, it is around 1/100th mb bigger in size 19:53 DanDuncombe World loading time seems to be about the same. 19:53 DanDuncombe FPS is about the same 19:53 ShadowNinja Are there any unknown nodes? 19:54 ShadowNinja (I didn't change performance much. This is more of a backend change) 19:55 ShadowNinja The supply converter was removed because it has big issues. But everything else should be converted to the new nodenames. 19:55 ShadowNinja (Or aliased) 19:55 DanDuncombe I don't think there are unknown nodes. 19:55 DanDuncombe Yeah, the supply converter never worked :p 19:55 ShadowNinja Alright, tell me if you notice any issues. 19:56 DanDuncombe I will keep testing it. 19:57 andersje so...with cornernote having gone, is "bags" abandonware now? 19:57 Calinou he is "gone" since september 2012 19:57 andersje yeah, I know 19:57 Calinou feel free to take over, it's GPL 19:57 andersje okay, I'll fork and publish the danged thing 19:57 andersje because I _like_ that mod 19:58 DanDuncombe Wrenches are so awesome 19:58 DanDuncombe Unlimited storage :) 19:58 Calinou nothing beats a gunslinger, DanDuncombe 19:58 Calinou 19:59 DanDuncombe Haha lol 19:59 ShadowNinja andersje: Unified Inventory includes bags. 20:00 Evergreen If nolan ever comes on here again, I'm just going to !ignore him 20:00 Evergreen !ignore nolan 20:00 Evergreen Whoops. 20:00 Evergreen I wish you could do that when they aren't online 20:01 PenguinDad you have to /ignore not !ignore 20:01 Evergreen Thanks 20:02 andersje ShadowNinja: thanks, I'm looking at that. 20:02 VanessaE hi all 20:03 DanDuncombe ShadowNinja: When placing a HV solar array on top of a HV wire, Mt crashed without an error. 20:03 andersje hello :) 20:04 Calinou Evergreen: why do you hate him? :/ 20:04 DanDuncombe ShadowNinja- the error was in function add_node 20:04 VanessaE DanDuncombe: regarding moretrees, just edit (minetestfolder)/worlds/(worldfolder)/moretrees_settings.lua and disable all of the trees except for rubber. 20:04 Evergreen Wait, let me change that, I don't hate him, I just dislike him. :P 20:04 VanessaE er moretrees_settings.txt or whatever I called it 20:04 DanDuncombe VanessaE: I just made a recipe for cactus->latex 20:05 DanDuncombe And removed moretrees 20:05 VanessaE why? 20:05 DanDuncombe Even just rubber trees is far too laggy 20:05 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: You need a recent version of Minetest. I think 0.4.7 will do. 20:05 DanDuncombe ShadowNinja: I have very latest github 20:05 VanessaE DanDuncombe: impossible. rubber trees are barely larger than the default ones 20:06 ShadowNinja DanDuncombe: Past the full error message. 20:06 ShadowNinja (In a pastebin) 20:06 VanessaE you need a better video card if you're having that much of a performance drain 20:06 Calinou he has a netbook 20:06 Vazon_ Dan could you tell me the last thing you did before my server shut down plz 20:06 VanessaE a netbook!? 20:07 VanessaE no wonder. 20:07 VanessaE netbooks are not suitable for gaming at all 20:07 DanDuncombe Vazon: I was walking along the path to spawn and it just shut down. 20:07 Vazon_ Ok well im sorry i will check out the problem but its back up 20:07 DanDuncombe Cool 20:07 Calinou I gave up playing Minetest on my netbook, better do it on my desktop :P 20:08 DanDuncombe I don't have a desktop 20:08 Vazon_ I do but i run my server off of my labtop 20:08 DanDuncombe I have to go for a bit now 20:09 Vazon_ Omg i have got to find out how to get my server on the public server list 20:10 Calinou laptops don't make for good server machines 20:11 VanessaE Vazon_: here's how I did it on my server: http://pastebin.com/rvwYjvGx 20:11 Vazon_ Mine runs perfect and it has a ton of mods but the only problem problem im haveing is geting it on serverlist 20:11 VanessaE Vazon_: be sure your build has cURL support. 20:11 VanessaE put an appropriate variation of that ^^^^ in your minetest.conf 20:12 Vazon_ Yes i have that but it doesnt post it on the list 20:12 VanessaE then you don't have cURL support in your build 20:12 Vazon_ Could you plz explain what that means then 20:12 Vazon_ wait i have to have a url set on it? 20:13 VanessaE it's a library used to fetch stuff from the web (or in this case, to put stuff on the master server list) 20:13 VanessaE if your minetest is not build with support for that library, or if it's too old to support it at all, the public server list and the announce functions will not work. 20:13 VanessaE built* 20:13 Miner_48er 4.7 20:14 Vazon_ well i have 4.7 stable and the newest build(not that great) 20:14 VanessaE 4.7 dfoesn't exist. 20:14 Calinou 0.4.7, not 4.7 20:14 VanessaE ZERO POINT FOUR POINT zeven. 20:14 VanessaE seven* 20:14 Vazon_ sorry i always for get 0.4.7 20:14 andersje is there a way to send a message to a minetest world from the command line of the machine running the world? 20:14 VanessaE andersje: not directly. 20:14 Calinou honestly, the 0 doesn't make much sense 20:14 andersje thx VanessaE 20:14 VanessaE there is a mod that can do it, after a fashion 20:14 Calinou 4.7 would be better, and just increment it to 10.something when you're over 9 :P 20:15 Miner_48er how long til 1.0.0? 20:15 Calinou when it's done 20:15 Vazon_ yes i agree Calinou 20:15 VanessaE Miner_48er: at the current rate? about 50 years :P 20:15 Jordach the average version bump is 2-4 months 20:15 Calinou minor version bump takes a lot more time 20:15 VanessaE that's for the patch level 20:15 Jordach so, 6/4/3/2 releases per yer 20:15 Jordach year* 20:15 Calinou it requires a new big feature 20:15 VanessaE minor bumps are what, about a year apart on average? 20:16 Calinou probably 20:16 andersje VanessaE: do you remember the mod name? I admin the worlds over ssh when I'm at work, and it'd be nice to be able to send my sons messages ingame 20:16 VanessaE andersje: sorry, no I don't. 20:16 andersje no worries. 20:16 andersje I'll dig through the forums later. 20:20 Miner_48er andersje irc mod, create an irc server and create tunnel through ssh? 20:20 Vazon_ VanessaE here is my minetest server config could you tell me whats wrong 20:20 andersje Miner_48er: that's not a bad idea. 20:20 Vazon_ http://pastebin.com/4KKYzBn4 20:21 Vazon_ Btw miner i downloaded the irc mod but idk how to config it the the server 20:21 VanessaE Vazon_: these are in minetest.conf and not minetest.conf.example , right? 20:21 Jordach it requires a special version of the minetest engine 20:21 Vazon_ Yes 20:22 VanessaE server_address = localhost 20:22 VanessaE that's your problem. 20:22 Vazon_ Well what sould it be 20:22 VanessaE this needs to be the IP address or domain name of your server as seen by the outside world. 20:22 Vazon_ Ok so put my server name there 20:22 VanessaE what's your server name> 20:22 andersje Vazon_: well, your externally routable IP or DNS name 20:22 Vazon_ Vazon's Survival Server 20:22 VanessaE no 20:23 VanessaE your IP address or domain name. 20:23 Vazon_ ok i will put my ip there then 20:23 VanessaE if I wanted to connect to your server, where would I go? 20:23 andersje are you using afraid.org or dyndns.com for name resolution? 20:23 Miner_48er 75.216.194.132 20:23 Vazon_ sorry its hard to explain all of the details on on my server page on forums 20:23 VanessaE ok, use that IP address if it's static. 20:23 VanessaE also, 20:23 VanessaE #server_announce = 0 announces the server to the server list, 1 turns it off 20:23 VanessaE server_announce = 0 20:23 VanessaE this is wrong. 20:24 VanessaE the server_announce setting is wrong. 20:24 Vazon_ well it says 1 is off 20:24 VanessaE 1 enables, 0 disables. 20:24 Vazon_ ok well then its backwords i had it set to 1 but i thought that was the problem 20:25 VanessaE the upstream copy of minetest.conf.example does not say to use 0 to enable it. 20:25 Vazon_ ok 20:25 VanessaE anyhow, change it to 1, and put your IP address in the server_address line 20:25 proller do not touch server_address = - its will set automaticly 20:25 Vazon_ ok i did 20:25 VanessaE proller: incorrect. 20:26 Vazon_ lol who is captian miner they just jioned my server 20:26 andersje proller: a machine behind a firewall has to go through some hoops to figure out it's outside address. 20:26 andersje ah, the joys of NAT =) 20:26 DanDuncombe|away Vazon, may I please have giveme privelege on your server,so I can make a machine shop? 20:26 proller VanessaE, more correct if you not use dns name 20:26 Vazon_ ummm hold on idk 20:27 VanessaE proller: well I suppose if you have a static IP it might be able to find it, or not, but I expect most people use DNS 20:27 proller andersje, host must be reachabe, nat'ed hosts without port forwarding filtered by masterserver 20:27 DanDuncombe Please Vazon? 20:27 Vazon_ Dan im goin to restart the server to see if my changes worked ok 20:27 andersje I'd go with a DNS, even on a static IP'd server -- since "static" ips still get changed from time to time 20:27 DanDuncombe Ok 20:27 andersje granted, the changes aren't often, but...that's why DNS exists 20:28 andersje so you don't have to remeber x.y.z.w, you just have to remember vazonskickassmtserver.dyndns.com 20:28 VanessaE not to mention DNS is easier to... yeah 20:28 proller no problem with changing ip, just leave server_address commented 20:29 Vazon_ ok hold on wait you all just confused me 20:29 Miner_48er it's a static ip with port 30000 forwarded 20:30 DanDuncombe Vazon, may I have the giveme priv please? 20:30 Vazon_ ok what item do you want? 20:31 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix umlauts/special character issue in lua gettext 78ea818aaf 2013-08-19T13:23:41-07:00 http://git.io/8Psr3A 20:31 DanDuncombe Vazon, can I have the priv because I need many many Items 20:32 Miner_48er work for them? 20:32 * andersje snickers 20:32 andersje I have this same discussion with my eight year old all the time. 20:32 DanDuncombe No. I need things like 1000 grinders, 1000 nuclear reactors etc 20:33 andersje ! 20:33 DanDuncombe 1000 other assorted expensive items 20:33 Miner_48er why? 20:33 andersje are you building a Battlestar or something? 20:33 Vazon_ i am not giveing you that there are glitched items that if you spawn that will crash the server and are very hard to fix 20:33 DanDuncombe To put in the shops, for a Machinery shop 20:33 DanDuncombe Grinders and stuff work 20:33 DanDuncombe Only voltage changers are broken as far as I know 20:33 Vazon_ if you like i can build shops for uncraftable items others you can go get your self 20:34 Miner_48er why would you need a thousand? 20:34 DanDuncombe In case 1000 people want one 20:34 DanDuncombe Vazon, can we chat in-game? 20:34 Vazon_ Dan no miner had the server down for like 15 min before i could get the fix the dang forcefield 20:35 DanDuncombe To start with,can I have 1000 circle stone bricks for my 'special offer'shop? 20:35 DanDuncombe And maybe stuff like nyancats to put on sale. 20:35 Vazon_ Dan how bad is you lag? 20:35 DanDuncombe None at all right now 20:35 Vazon_ Nyancats are a no they are rare for a reason 20:35 andersje 1000 people? has anyone's server seen that many users? 20:35 kaeza I don't know if I want to kill this guy or kill this guy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106391#p106391 20:35 sfan5[Mac] !title 20:36 MinetestBot sfan5[Mac]: A serialization error occurred (Page 1) — Bugs and Problems — Minetest Forums 20:36 DanDuncombe But they would be 20,000 money each, Vazon 20:36 Vazon_ dan no 20:36 DanDuncombe Can I please just have /giveme? Please? 20:37 DanDuncombe I can't really use the menu because of the wrong textures bug. 20:37 Vazon_ Dan i do not want this to be a server that someone asked for it they get it so no 20:37 DanDuncombe I will just close down my shops then. 20:38 DanDuncombe I can't keep them supplied manually. 20:38 Miner_48er buy from others? 20:38 DanDuncombe Can I at least have shops for non-craftable items? 20:38 Vazon_ I will set some up 20:39 andersje Dan: you can always fire up a Micro EC2 instance on amazon -- it's free for the first year. 20:39 andersje you could put ubuntu + minetestserver on it, and they give you a free IP address. 20:39 andersje then you could have full permissions 20:40 Miner_48er or start your own server on your pc 20:40 Vazon_ Yes 20:40 DanDuncombe Vazon, can you give me the shops and items and I will set them up 20:40 andersje Miner_48er: he has a netbook. 20:40 Vazon_ Im comeing to set some up now 20:41 VanessaE kahrl: *poke* 20:42 andersje I've been lurking on the forums for a while, since last fall... did Cornernote just go off the deep end with his vegetarian stuff? 20:42 VanessaE yup 20:42 andersje I missed the little blowout he had 20:42 VanessaE dunno why either 20:42 andersje meh. 20:42 andersje probably starvation 20:42 andersje that'll drive you nuts 20:42 VanessaE I likes my dead pig/cow/chicken. :) 20:43 andersje I know I'd lose it if someone took away my bacon 20:43 * VanessaE takes away andersje's bacon all for herself :P_ 20:43 VanessaE :P 20:43 andersje doh! 20:44 * andersje disregards carbs; hoards fat and protein. 20:51 ShadowNinja sfan5[Ma_: Can't you connect to your BNC? 20:52 sfan5[Ma_ I don't want to set up my BNC with LimeChat because I dont use it often 20:56 DanDuncombe Lol Vazon knows how I have so much money on his server now :) 20:56 ShadowNinja 59 bans/quiets? I thought the max was 50, and shared between b/i/e/q. 20:56 Vazon_ Dan im revokeing most of it 20:56 DanDuncombe Why Vazon? It was legitimate 20:57 ShadowNinja And we don't have +L... 20:57 Vazon_ yes i no but that is un fair i will let you keep all but 40000 20:57 DanDuncombe So you are removing 40000 of my money? Not fair 20:58 DanDuncombe Why? 20:58 Vazon_ Cuase to keep it fair 20:58 DanDuncombe I got it legitimately 20:58 Vazon_ but the take command is glitched right now 20:58 Vazon_ that is what shut it down 20:58 Miner_48er /money set Dan amount 20:58 Vazon_ ok 20:59 Miner_48er /money dec Dan amount 20:59 Vazon_ Miner do you think what imdoing is fair? 20:59 VanessaE bbl 20:59 Miner_48er yes 20:59 Vazon_ he should be glad im leaving him with like 8000 21:00 BlockMen bye everyone 21:01 preludelinux hello everyone 21:04 Vazon_ really 21:04 DanDuncombe I am glad :) 21:04 Vazon_ Omg Captiong 21:05 DanDuncombe I guess it was kinda unfair :) 21:05 Vazon_ Omg dang him 21:05 DanDuncombe I shouldna boasted about the money :) 21:05 DanDuncombe Soz 21:06 DanDuncombe I just found out one of my shops was backwards as well:) 21:06 Vazon_ he messed with the lava and he just burned down my forest 21:06 DanDuncombe Who did? 21:06 Vazon_ captionminer 21:07 DanDuncombe K 21:07 DanDuncombe I need to go now. 21:07 Vazon_ Miner 21:08 kaeza bmp is good for something? 21:08 kaeza yey 21:08 kaeza thexyz, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106402#p106402 21:08 kaeza saved 24 bytes compared to PNG :P 21:09 Peacock not bad, i can get my wife to make coffee by playing Chuck Mangione XD 21:17 Vazon_ there Dan has been added to future ban 21:31 SegFault22 um... the Minetest release at Minetest.net, for Ubuntu 12.04, doesn't have a BIN folder?... 21:32 PilzAdam what? 21:33 PilzAdam doesnt it link to the PPA? 21:33 SegFault22 ...? 21:33 DanDuncombe Is Vazon_ there? 21:33 Vazon_ Yes i here -.- 21:34 DanDuncombe I can't connect 2 the server 21:34 Vazon_ yes your banned 21:34 DanDuncombe Why? 21:34 SegFault22 It may be different for Linux. How is Minetest started from Linux? 21:34 SegFault22 You*re 21:34 DanDuncombe Why was I banned? 21:34 Vazon_ i looked at the rollback to see who cuased the lava spill and placed the fire and you did 21:35 DanDuncombe I placed dirt to get in your castle. 21:35 PilzAdam SegFault22, there are different ways, you can add the PPA to your package manager and install it like every other package for your distro 21:35 DanDuncombe I can't see lava or water on your server because of a bug. 21:35 DanDuncombe So please unban me 21:35 PenguinDad SegFault22: run in place or not? 21:35 Vazon_ Yes which cuase the lava spill you should have asked 21:35 PilzAdam SegFault22, or you build it yourself, its very easy on Linux 21:36 SegFault22 I am confused. I just installed Ubuntu yeesterday. 21:36 DanDuncombe But I couldn't see the lava spill 21:36 Vazon_ everyone else can see the lava 21:36 DanDuncombe I can't. If you unban me I'll do a screenshot 21:37 DanDuncombe I am using a newer client than you, I believe it's a known bug. 21:37 Vazon_ ok 21:37 Vazon_ well im clearing objects right now 21:37 DanDuncombe I think it has been reported on the forum 21:37 PilzAdam SegFault22, do you know how to install programs with the package manager? 21:37 DanDuncombe It is a bit like this Vazon: http://i.imgur.com/HfB9K.png 21:38 DanDuncombe I can't see most liquid 21:38 SegFault22 What are other names for this package manager? As I have heard nothing of such a device. 21:38 Vazon_ ok 21:39 PilzAdam SegFault22, I think its called "Software center" in the GUI 21:39 DanDuncombe Also, Vazon, can you please install the prefab mod? 21:40 Vazon_ Idk 21:40 SegFault22 Yes. Well, I did not use that. I simply downloaded the .tar.gz archve, and unpacked it like normal. 21:40 PilzAdam SegFault22, I suggest you to read about how to use ubuntu properly 21:40 SegFault22 -.- 21:41 PenguinDad apt-get moo :D 21:41 DanDuncombe SHouldn't that be sudo apt-get moo? 21:41 SegFault22 I'll figure it out myself. 21:42 PenguinDad Dan: you don't change anything on the system 21:47 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106417#p106417 21:50 PenguinDad whirm was long here ^^ 21:50 SegFault22 due to the fact that there is almost 0 documentation anywhere on the internet for running Minetest, I've come here for answers. 21:52 DanDuncombe What is the ip and port or Jordach's LogoSkyBlock server? 21:52 SegFault22 Using Ubuntu (Linux) OS 12.04, how is Minetest started after proper installation (unpacking the downloaded archive to anywhere)? 21:53 PenguinDad how did you download it? 21:54 SegFault22 From minetest.net, downloaded the .tar.gz archive 21:54 SegFault22 there is no bin folder, which folder do I look in for what script/file to activate, which will start minetest? Or is mineteest in linux a terminal-based? 21:55 PenguinDad i really don 21:55 PilzAdam SegFault22, downloading a tar.gz is not a "proper installation" in ubuntu 21:55 PenguinDad i really don't know where the archive is on the site :/ 21:56 DanDuncombe Who likes RealTest game? 21:56 SegFault22 Then you need to fix your Minetest.net, because that is what I was lead to do from there. 21:56 Evergreen *doh 21:56 PilzAdam open a terminal and copy and paste this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55 21:57 SegFault22 Okay. 21:57 PenguinDad and then minetest 21:59 SegFault22 I do hope this isn't installing to multiple separate, distant directories, because I plan to move all Minetest files to my extra hard-disk-drive (mounted) 21:59 PilzAdam it installs it 22:00 PilzAdam so dont do it if you want it all in one folder 22:00 SegFault22 -.- But let me guess, there is no alternative to that, except unstable(unusable)-dev. 22:00 PilzAdam ("install" in ubuntu means move the executable to /urs/bin/ and other stuff to /usr/share/ 22:00 PilzAdam +) 22:01 PilzAdam if you want a RUN_IN_PLACE version (i.e. everything in one directory) then download the stable source here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/stable-0.4.zip and build it (follow the instructions in the README) 22:02 sfan5 good nigh 22:02 sfan5 t 22:02 Vazon_ Seg what you been up to i havent seen you on my server latly? 22:02 PenguinDad night sfan5 22:03 SegFault22 I see. thank you. 22:03 SegFault22 you've been helpful. 22:03 PilzAdam SegFault22, follow the instructions here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/stable-0.4/README.txt#L83 but skip the "Download source" part, since you want the stable source 22:03 SegFault22 And which version is that? 22:03 PilzAdam latest stable 22:04 SegFault22 I see. thank you. 22:04 SegFault22 I'll have the server up today, hopefully. 22:04 Vazon_ Pilz what version is that? 22:04 PilzAdam 0.4.7 22:04 Vazon_ Seg you made you own server? 22:04 SegFault22 Not yet, but soon. 22:05 Vazon_ Cool i cant get mine of the server list i have tried everything 22:05 SegFault22 I don't like hunting ecube, and do not really like participating in other, ''mostlly unknown'' servers found with 0/100 players online... 22:05 SegFault22 (most of the list, haha) 22:06 SegFault22 So I will be making my own server. 22:16 SegFault22 The application Minetest has closed unexppectedly. (when running from applictions list) 22:17 PilzAdam run it from the terminal and look at the output 22:18 SegFault22 I will go trudge through mountains off minecrafft-spam and look for the terminal command... 22:18 PilzAdam terminal means console 22:18 PilzAdam where you copied that command I gave you 22:19 SegFault22 I know what a terminal is -.- 22:19 SegFault22 Just gotta go find the command to Run minetest 22:19 PilzAdam oh, then just type minetest in it 22:19 SegFault22 oh okay. It's reallyy that simple? 22:20 PilzAdam well, if you have a RUN_IN_PLACE version then you have to type the full path to the executable 22:20 PilzAdam e.g. if you are in the Minetest folder then: bin/minetest 22:20 SegFault22 Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2 Linux 3.5.0-37-generic #58~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 10 17:51:56 UTC 2013 i686 Creating X window... Visual chosen: : 133 X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) From call : unknown X Error: GLXBadContext From call : unknown Segmentation fault (core dumped) 22:21 SegFault22 And I couldn't get the run_in_plaace compilation to work, when downloading dependencies, due to permissions error. 22:22 PilzAdam well, you have to add "sudo" in front of the apt-get line to run it as root 22:22 SegFault22 I see. About running the installed version,... 22:23 PilzAdam do you want to run the client or a server? 22:23 SegFault22 Client for now, but later I want to run a server. 22:25 PilzAdam "At times, these messages appear on machines that do not have hardware-accelerated OpenGL support." what hardware do you have? 22:27 SegFault22 WHat hardware? Do you mean, RAM/processor/etc. or the company that made it?... 22:28 PilzAdam RAM, CPU and graphics card 22:29 SegFault22 I know that I have 1023MB RAM, amd an Intel Pentium 4 Processor - but the graphics card, I have yet to figure out. 22:30 SegFault22 I had to refurbish the computer with parts from 3 others and there is no dooccumentation that I know of, for the graphics card. 22:30 Uberi what motherboard? 22:30 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=106416#p106416 22:31 SegFault22 Motherboard? 22:31 Uberi yeah 22:31 PilzAdam kaeza, aks him why he is so stupid 22:31 PenguinDad kaeza: plol 22:32 kaeza Jordach copycat? :P 22:32 SegFault22 It's a Silicon plate with gold wires and circuit parts. that's all I know. 22:33 SegFault22 But the prcessor, is an Intel Pentium 4. 22:33 PilzAdam SegFault22, lspci | grep VGA 22:33 kaeza SegFault22, open up a terminal (Ctrl+Shift+T) and type "lspci | grep VGA" 22:33 kaeza ninja'd :P 22:34 SegFault22 I see. (I know how to open the terminal... -.- ) 22:34 Uberi SegFault22: are there any wierd numbers or letters on it? any alien hieroglyphics? 22:34 SegFault22 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) 22:34 Vazon_ Pilz 22:35 Vazon_ I have a ? 22:36 PilzAdam SegFault22, try updating your video driver 22:37 Uberi the product is discontinued, the drivers were taken off the website 22:37 SegFault22 o.o 22:37 Uberi I had the same thing with my old old 945GM 22:37 PilzAdam SegFault22, well, no luck for you then 22:37 Vazon_ Pilz i think im going to change from windows to linux but will id delete my stuff? 22:37 PilzAdam a server would still run, though 22:38 SegFault22 Fine. that is all I need. 22:38 PenguinDad good night 22:38 PilzAdam Vazon_, there are ways to have a dualboot for Linux and windows, this will keep your data 22:38 PilzAdam but this is not a Linux help channel 22:38 PilzAdam SegFault22, minetestserver is your friend then 22:39 SegFault22 Yes 22:39 Vazon_ Yes i No i was just asking 22:39 SegFault22 It will delete everythng, to make space for Linux. Suggestion: move your files to a RW disc/Flashdrive and put them back in when Linux is ready 22:40 Vazon_ ok 22:40 SegFault22 And look up the rest,, because this is not Linux help channel. 22:40 PilzAdam hm? why would you delete everythign when installing Linux? 22:41 SegFault22 You could do a paralell-installation, but in the future, Microsooft may make an Update that trashes the Hard-ddrive if it detects an opensource/free OS like Linux 22:41 SegFault22 So a complete replacement is recommended. 22:42 kaeza O_o 22:42 kaeza {{cn}} 22:43 SegFault22 Well, if the system is trashed, there is no way to get proof that it was them, and they could make it do the samee thing if the files doing that are found or atttempted to be opened... 22:44 SegFault22 They could just say that the person tampered with windows files and or tried to copy the files to duplicate tthe OS... 22:44 Uberi people would figure out that correlation pretty darn quick 22:45 SegFault22 I must go now. Setting up minetestserver will be done later. 22:46 Kacey hey guys, any suggestions as to what mods i should put in my ftb pack? 22:47 kaeza ftb? 22:47 Kacey feed the beast 22:47 Uberi mesecons, worldedit, technic, for starters :) 22:47 Uberi if not technic then at least pipeworks 22:47 Kacey http://www.feed-the-beast.com/ kaeza 22:48 Kacey Uberi, i have all of those (plus xytest) 22:48 * kaeza walks away quietly 22:49 SegFault22 FTB = MINECRAFT. Do not minecraft. 22:49 Uberi Kacey: how about digilines, beds, boats, carts, 3d_armor? 22:50 Kacey SegFault22, no, do minecraft, in different way so as to not do minecraft 22:50 SegFault22 how so? 22:51 Kacey Uberi, i have digilines and beds, carts i will add, boats are a maybe, and idk about 3d_armor. maybe just armor and armor_plus 22:52 Uberi but 3d_armor is 3D! 22:53 Kacey so is armor. 22:53 Uberi what really 22:53 Kacey and node_gun is going in also 22:54 Kacey armor is 3d 22:54 Uberi got a link? all I got is cornernote's abandoned version 22:54 Kacey not as of current i dont 22:55 Uberi do you know who made it, perhaps? 22:56 Kacey nope. all i know is that cornernotes verson is actually 3d 22:56 Uberi huh, I'm surprised cornernote's version still works with the latest MT 22:57 Kacey i havent tested yet 23:11 khonkhortisan Does any server list mention the number of players? 23:13 sdzen servers.minetest.net 23:17 Vazon_ Finally i got my server on the list 23:19 SegFault22 So... setting up the server... 23:20 Vazon_ Seg do you have the format? if not i will give you mine 23:20 SegFault22 Too bad there isn't a single script that can be executed to start the server - everything must be done manually -.- 23:21 SegFault22 Do I have to compile minetest for it too woork?... 23:21 SegFault22 work* 23:22 * Semilevel is away: 500 Away 23:22 PilzAdam Semilevel, stop the away messages 23:22 Vazon_ here go here ##Vazon-Server and i will give you the st up 23:23 SegFault22 issue... 23:24 Vazon_ what is it? 23:25 SegFault22 I have yet to do port forwarding, and still have to figure out where the folders are for putting the world-files and player-files. 23:25 Vazon_ o ok yea 23:26 SegFault22 Andanother major issue, wwhen the server is up, will be people doing stuff that I do not approve of, and the Vague-ness thereof, when having to restart the server or do ANYTHING. 23:26 Vazon_ Yes it is alot of work 23:27 SegFault22 Becuase everything must be done with a line of script start-ups and variables ten miles long - even something as simple as starting the server back up. 23:27 Vazon_ Not mine i can start it back up in secs 23:28 SegFault22 Windows? windows. 23:28 Vazon_ yes 23:28 Vazon_ but that isnt what i did 23:29 SegFault22 The issue is not work loaad - it is dealing with stupid people, dealing with instructions written vaguely by stupid people, and dealing with fallout from that. 23:29 Vazon_ yes i no 23:29 Vazon_ i banned my first person earlyer and he was a good guy 23:30 sdzen how does the info.txt in a texture pack work? 23:30 sdzen I am interested 23:30 SegFault22 Even If I were to get everything running, only like two people would join the server, and they wouldstart doing stupid sh*t that I become confused about,... 23:31 Vazon_ Seg then dont do it the only reason im doing it is cuase i love challenges 23:32 SegFault22 I want to do it, because I want a server of my own. 23:32 Vazon_ well ok 23:33 sdzen could you two please take this to a PM? 23:33 sdzen it seems more appropriate 23:33 sdzen thanks in advance :) 23:33 SegFault22 no, because we are discoussing stting up a minetest server. 23:33 SegFault22 Setting* 23:34 sdzen though you are only discussing it with one other person, and it appears that you know what you are doing for most of it. 23:35 SegFault22 You haven't been online that long. You have noo memory of the previous parts of the conversation. 23:35 SegFault22 no* 23:35 sdzen no but I am here for the end parts 23:36 sdzen and I can see that 99% of the conversation is between you and Vazon 23:36 PilzAdam sdzen, can you move this to PM please, its offtopic 23:36 SegFault22 Return to previous message, looks like you didn't read. 23:36 SegFault22 sdzen 23:37 SegFault22 Now, aboout setting up the server... I need to know wheere I can find the folders where Minetest stores Woorld files, player data files, etc. 23:37 PilzAdam SegFault22, do you have a RUN_IN_PLACE version now or the PPA? 23:37 Vazon_ Under the worlds files then select the world name then it says players 23:37 SegFault22 PPA 23:38 PilzAdam in your home directory the hidde folder .minetest contains all this stuff 23:38 PilzAdam *hidden 23:38 SegFault22 Hiidden folder... 23:39 PilzAdam yes, in Linux all files and folders starting with a . are hidden 23:39 PilzAdam to show them select "Show hidden files" in your file browser or use ls -a in a terminal 23:39 PilzAdam everything else is normal about them 23:39 SegFault22 And why is the minetest folder hidden? doesn't that just make it harder for the user to USE the software? 23:40 PilzAdam no, thats the common case for user data in Linux 23:40 PilzAdam nobody wants his user folder spammed with folders full of config data 23:41 SegFault22 Then why not move it all to a sub-folder? 23:42 SegFault22 Epiphany or long reply 23:42 SegFault22 -.- I'll go trudge through the dark looking for how to view such secret folders... 23:43 PilzAdam moving it to a sub folder woul make paths unnecessary long 23:43 PilzAdam also the change that noobs fuck up their configs is higher when its not hidden 23:43 PilzAdam what? "secret folders"? 23:43 SegFault22 So what if noobs mess up their install? I say ''good riddance''. 23:44 SegFault22 We need more smart people and less noobs. Folders like that, if left un-hidden, will create an automatic noob-filter that would catch and ragequit-away 90% of them 23:46 SegFault22 And how is that a bad thing? 23:46 SegFault22 Isssue: .minetest folder contains one file: debug.txt - nothing else. Problem, maybe? 23:47 PilzAdam just create the needed folders 23:47 SegFault22 Which are...? 23:48 PilzAdam depends what you want 23:48 SegFault22 I see. Do I just throw the .conf in there too? (I pre-maade one for my server) 23:49 PilzAdam yes 23:49 SegFault22 Ah, thank you. 23:49 PilzAdam mods go into the mod/ folder, worlds go into the worlds/ folder 23:49 SegFault22 mods/ folder? 23:50 SegFault22 Thank you. you have been very helpful 23:51 SegFault22 I will log-off, to go work on my server's world and stuff, then port it to this computer.