Time Nick Message 00:48 Miner_48er what's the average amount of errors? 00:49 NekoGloop the average amount of errors is 9001 00:50 Miner_48er ok getting about a 1/3 of that 00:50 Miner_48er the real answer for a server is? 00:53 PilzAdam fishy day is over 00:53 PilzAdam !op 00:53 PilzAdam !deop 01:01 * NekoGloop frisks MinetestBot 01:32 ShadowBot :-) 01:58 PilzAdam bye 02:21 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi! 02:32 SegFault22 Is there anyone online? 02:34 Tesseract SegFault22: Only a hundred or so... 02:34 Tesseract (Available is a different story...) 02:35 SegFault22 Good. I have an issue to discuss regarding forum moderators and an edit to one of my topics, that I see as unjust. 02:37 khonkhortisan I don't use forums. 02:37 khonkhortisan they're a cross between a wiki and irc 02:38 SegFault22 Just thought that I could get a reply and have action taken if I discuss it here, as on the forums the moderators would likely ban me fro such a discussion. 02:38 SegFault22 for* 02:41 SegFault22 The issue is that a forum moderator edited one of my topic posts for my mod. I had condensed information of the mod into [spoiler] and [/spoiler] tabs, so that the information could be accessed easily. the Moderator proceeded to remove the organization, and reply saying ''do not abuse spoilers''. However, on the forum rules page, there is no such a rule doccumented. 02:45 Tesseract If it was a short topic the spoilers were unnecessary, but I don't thing that means a mod has to edit it. 02:47 SegFault22 It is now a pretty long topic, and was kinda long from the start. With the spoilers condensing information into tabs, it was less than a page long, but users could still access information. Now it is a mess. 02:50 SegFault22 I would like two things to be done because of this: 1, I want to get assured/authorized to edit the post and re-sort it into spoilers, and 2. I want the Moderators to be re-assured that they don't have absolute power, and may not, for example, edit anyone's post for any reason they feel like is enough reason to take that action. 02:52 SegFault22 There have been many occurences of this, where moderators act like they have absolute power and do whatever they want, which I and many others see as unjust. 02:53 Tesseract Perhaps you should ask the moderator in question why they did it. 02:55 SegFault22 The moderator posted a reply stating ''Do not abuse the spolier tag - it is not meant for hiding stuff like license terms, to-do, etc. It is meant for hiding stuff people should otherwise need to discover by using the mod.'' I do not want to ask the moderator, as the moderator might ban me for ''being against their ruling and actions'' or something. 02:56 SegFault22 I also think that the Rules page should be eddited to include rules that Moderators must follow, to keep them from thinking they have ''absolute power'' and vandalizing people's posts for whatever reason. 02:56 Tesseract The full text of license terms should only be linked. 02:56 SegFault22 ? 02:57 Tesseract You only become a moderator if you are well trusted. 02:59 SegFault22 True... but they are still taking action and editing posts/banning people for trivial and/or whatever-they-think-of reasons. 03:04 SegFault22 How can I contact Celeron55 or another administrator, to get action to be taken to stop this? 03:05 Tesseract SegFault22: /msg celeron55/the|xyz/etc. If you want to continue with it... 03:06 SegFault22 I see. thank you. 03:24 SegFault22 Anyone remember bcnjr5 and his server?... 03:26 SegFault22 nevermind. I must be leaving now. 03:39 Miner_48er anyone use node ownership 03:39 Tesseract Miner_48er: Yes, but I would recommend my areas mod. 03:39 Miner_48er advantages? 03:40 Miner_48er link? 03:40 Tesseract It is much easier to use, supports names, does about one fourth of the proccessing per-node, supports /protect... 03:41 Tesseract shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tgz 03:42 Tesseract Most importantly it allows admins to interact without needing their own subarea. 03:42 Miner_48er ok what format is that file in> 03:43 Tesseract gziped tar. 03:43 Miner_48er ok 03:43 Tesseract Need a .zip? 03:44 Miner_48er no I extracted it twice 03:44 Miner_48er what servers have this installed? 03:46 Miner_48er you've tested this? 03:46 Tesseract Mine, not sure about others, but redcrab planned to install it when he was around... 03:46 Tesseract Yes. 03:46 Miner_48er reliable? 03:46 Tesseract My server is latest git, so no guarantees for old servers. But it is stable. 03:47 Miner_48er should be reliable on 4.7 03:48 Tesseract And if there are issues I will fix them quickly. 03:53 Miner_48er could you make a zip file? 03:54 * Tesseract tries. 03:57 * Tesseract might go offline soon... 04:01 Tesseract Miner_48er: same url, but .zip. 04:02 Miner_48er ok thx hwlping somone make a server without much software 04:09 * sdzen finally figured out how to run a mumble server 04:24 Miner_48er how to disable bones? 04:25 Tesseract rm -r mods/bones (unless it is included in world.mt) 04:26 Miner_48er already created work 04:28 Miner_48er no bones currently in it so safe to remove? 04:28 Tesseract Yes, it should be safe to remove, and the server will tell you if there is an issue. 04:29 Miner_48er ok 04:33 Miner_48er disable fire? 04:34 Tesseract disable_fire = true in minetest.conf 05:33 khonkhortisan it will tell you there's an issue if you come across bones 06:06 thexyz VanessaE: please don't vandalize peoples' posts https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104763#p104763; [spoiler] tag is meant for hiding stuff, and spoilers 06:08 kahrl has anyone had a water bucket replace the node pointed at, when emptied? 06:08 kahrl using fast_move I managed to do that three times now, but I can't do it reliably 06:09 kahrl those were dirt_with_grass nodes and yes, my minetest_game has commit 68020d2 06:23 thexyz kahrl: some people on my server managed to replace chests with other nodes 06:25 thexyz I think I solved the issue by setting `buildable_to` to false for :ignore 06:25 thexyz I'm not sure why `true` is here 06:27 kahrl nodedef tells why: // A way to remove accidental CONTENT_IGNOREs 06:27 kahrl but there are other to do that than place nodes 06:27 kahrl other ways* 06:29 thexyz no, I don't get how could there be "accidental CONTENT_IGNOREs" 06:31 kahrl there used to be a whole box of them on gameboom's server when I played there 06:32 thexyz hm.. I've never seen one 06:33 thexyz wait, do they look like a detached player hand? 06:34 kahrl they should look like air 06:35 thexyz oh, well 06:38 sfan5 mornin' everyone 06:41 kahrl hi sfan5 07:33 * VanessaE grumbles at thexyz 07:33 VanessaE I will NOT be called a vandal. 07:34 VanessaE "A spoiler is an element of a disseminated summary or description of any piece of fiction that reveals any plot elements which threaten to give away important details concerning the turn of events of a dramatic episode." 07:37 VanessaE if you wanted to add a tag that's meant for simply collapsing elements in the page, then add one. Don't repurpose and redefine "spoiler". 07:41 VanessaE I just got in a big fight with a fuel sender assembly and my hands are torn all to hell from cut sheet metal, so I'm a little crabby right now. 07:41 VanessaE (I won the fight) 07:42 VanessaE (yes, at 3+ am I was working on my car) 07:44 VanessaE not to mention I'm starving my ass off and thirsty as the desert, but I can't partake because I have a doctor's appointment in about 3 hours (fasting) 07:44 VanessaE hi taoki. 07:44 Taoki hi 07:47 thexyz VanessaE: yes! I wanted "a tag that's meant for simply collapsing elements in the page" 07:48 thexyz this is called spoiler, welcome to the internet 07:48 thexyz this is how everyone uses them! 07:50 VanessaE um 07:50 VanessaE no, it's not. 07:50 thexyz no, no, not all sites that have [spoiler] tags are about movies 07:51 thexyz or "any piece of fiction" 07:51 thexyz so this quote is invalid 07:51 VanessaE whether "everyone" uses them that way or not, a spoiler is not supposed to be used to just collapse page elements, it's supposed to be used to HIDE stuff that users aren't supposed to see 07:51 thexyz anyway, please treat spoiler as an element "to be used to just collapse page elements" 07:51 thexyz at Minetest forums 07:51 * VanessaE shrugs 07:51 thexyz because I added it exactly for that purpose 07:51 VanessaE whatever 07:52 thexyz thanks for understanding 07:52 VanessaE when I last checked, things like the license, download links, etc were supposed to be clearly visible. 07:54 thexyz I agree that license should be clearly visible 07:55 thexyz but changelog or todo can be hidden under a [spoiler] tag, there's nothing wrong with it 07:56 thexyz do you agree with that? 07:57 VanessaE fine 07:57 VanessaE this needs to be spelled out in the forum rules then. 07:58 VanessaE for every post one of us has to correct, someone else is gonna bitch that it was fixed. "wrong" 07:58 VanessaE -. 07:59 thexyz what's this "has to correct" stuff? 08:00 VanessaE I've already had to undo shit like [spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler]some four or five word phrase here[/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler] etc.. 08:00 VanessaE (except the last one was buried about 3 or 4x farther down) 08:01 VanessaE idc who someone is, THAT is abuse. 08:02 thexyz hm 08:02 thexyz that is 08:02 thexyz but putting todo list under a [spoiler] tag is not 08:02 VanessaE perhaps not - as long as it's only one level deep. 08:04 thexyz also, who did that? 08:04 VanessaE I think HybridDog did, I forget now 08:04 thexyz we probably should add this to the rules 08:04 thexyz and then just ban guys who do that 08:06 VanessaE a ban is a little extreme I think 08:06 thexyz Misuse of forum tags is disallowed. Moderators are to decide what is considered "misuse". 08:06 thexyz just for an hour or two 08:06 thexyz or a day 08:28 VanessaE bbl 08:45 kaeza mornings 08:46 * Calinou puts a pony on kaeza's head 08:50 * kaeza puts nouveau on Calinou's head 08:50 PenguinDad howdy 08:51 kaeza hey PenguinDad 08:58 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Soyuz TM-25 landing day! 09:00 thexyz sfan5: you should implement "!today" command for MinetestBot 09:01 sfan5 oh lol 09:02 PenguinDad MinetestBot is back \o/ 09:03 sfan5 !op 09:04 sfan5 !deop 09:04 sfan5 !voice PenguinDad 09:05 * kaeza puts a moonflower on MinetestBot's head 09:08 kaeza !up 10.0.0.3 09:08 MinetestBot 10.0.0.3:30000 seems to be down 09:08 * MinetestBot plants kaeza's moonflower in the Minetest garden 09:08 sfan5 kaeza: 10.x.x.x are local ips 09:08 kaeza IK 09:09 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105475#p105475 09:09 * PenguinDad puts a Taraxacum on MinetestBot's head 09:09 Calinou "MineTest." :( 09:10 * MinetestBot plants PenguinDad's Taraxacum in the Minetest garden 09:10 thexyz lol 09:10 thexyz users.append([l[idx].firstChild.firstChild.data,l[idx+1].firstChild.data,l[idx+2].firstChild.data,l[idx+3].firstChild.data,l[idx].firstChild.getAttribute("href").split("=")[1]]) 09:11 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Calinou 09:11 kaeza thexyz, O_O 09:12 * Calinou drinks kaeza's berserk potion 09:12 thexyz !sfu PilzAdam 09:12 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443 09:12 thexyz hm, odd 09:13 * sfan5 just got an idea 09:13 sfan5 need to add a special color for Devs 09:14 Calinou color for what? 09:14 thexyz i wonder why does this work 09:14 sfan5 Calinou: try /msg MinetestBot !sfu celeron* 09:15 Calinou that'll highlight him :/ 09:16 sfan5 test 09:16 Calinou ificate 09:17 sfan5 ^Wion 09:19 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload forumutils.py 09:19 MinetestBot sfan5: forumutils.py: no such module! 09:19 sfan5 !op 09:19 sfan5 !sfu PilzAdam 09:19 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443 09:19 sfan5 ? 09:19 kaeza bold 09:19 sfan5 !deop 09:20 sfan5 derp 09:20 thexyz !sfu a 09:20 MinetestBot thexyz: No Results found 09:21 sfan5 !op 09:21 sfan5 !sfu PilzAdam 09:21 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443 09:21 sfan5 why won't the colors work? 09:21 sfan5 they work in query but not in the channel 09:24 jin_xi !derp 09:25 MinetestBot jin_xi: Sorry, I am currently unable to derp for you 09:25 * sfan5 hides 09:26 thexyz !regex 09:26 thexyz no? 09:27 thexyz !re a b 09:27 MinetestBot IndexError: tuple index out of range (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py", line 227, in ) 09:27 thexyz lel 09:27 thexyz !re a 09:27 MinetestBot thexyz: Give me a regex and a message seperated by ` 09:28 thexyz !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:29 thexyz BYE 09:30 thexyz !derp 09:30 thexyz !sfu a 09:31 thexyz well i didn't like it much anyway 09:31 sfan5 um 09:31 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:31 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:31 sfan5 god damnit 09:31 sfan5 thats my vps again 09:32 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:32 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:33 sfan5 sigh 09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:33 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:33 thexyz kekeke 09:33 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot1 09:33 thexyz it's dead 09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:33 sfan5 seems so7 09:33 thexyz forget about it 09:35 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:35 MinetestBot sfan5! 09:35 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:35 sfan5 ah, that regex keeps minetestBot busy 09:35 sfan5 using 100% right now 09:35 sfan5 +cpu 09:36 thexyz that was the point 09:36 thexyz sometimes i just look for the most obvious security hole in your bot's source code and then use it 09:42 PenguinDad hi iqualfragile 09:43 iqualfragile hi PenguinDad 09:43 iqualfragile hi everybody 09:53 mirda hello, moreblocks:iron_stone_bricks have broken recipe, it shows unknown item for stone brick in crafting guide (unified_inventory) and cannot be crafted, i am trying it on landrush server 09:58 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:58 MinetestBot sfan5! 09:58 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:58 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'time' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py", line 232, in regex) 09:58 sfan5 lawl 09:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils 09:58 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-08-14 09:58:40) 09:58 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000 HOR 09:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Regex took to long to compute 09:58 sfan5 ^ thexyz 10:02 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9 10:02 MinetestBot true groups=[False] 10:02 sfan5 derp 10:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils 10:03 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-08-14 10:02:54) 10:03 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9 10:03 MinetestBot false 10:04 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils 10:04 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-08-14 10:04:15) 10:04 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9 10:04 MinetestBot false 10:04 sfan5 I should probably stop spamming 10:06 PenguinDad regex spam :D 10:07 jin_xi spam? 10:08 sfan5 spam and bacon 10:46 thexyz !rand 6 1 10:46 MinetestBot ValueError: empty range for randrange() (6,2, -4) (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 217, in randrange) 10:46 hoodedice So... 10:52 FreeFull !rand 1 6 10:52 MinetestBot 2 10:52 PenguinDad !rand 1 12 10:52 MinetestBot 12 10:53 DanDuncombe !rand 1 1200000 10:53 MinetestBot 1093102 10:53 thexyz http://minetest.ru:8005/ 10:53 thexyz !title 10:54 thexyz !rand 1 10 10:54 MinetestBot 9 10:54 thexyz !title 10:56 PenguinDad !rand 1 2 10:56 MinetestBot 1 10:57 thexyz http://minetest.net/ 10:57 thexyz !title 10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: Minetest 10:57 thexyz strange 10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: No title found 10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: No title found 10:57 thexyz it's threaded, no fun 10:58 sfan5 hehe 10:58 PenguinDad thexyz: my firefox says "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at minetest.ru:8005" 10:58 sfan5 !rand 1 1 10:58 MinetestBot 1 10:58 thexyz http://minetest.ru:8005/ 10:58 DanDuncombe What do you think, compared to default? (WIP, haven't actually tried it yet) http://www.mediafire.com/?odolq0f2kfc3dit 11:00 thexyz wait, that's not fun, i have too much privs 11:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:01 sfan5 hi PilzAdam 11:02 PenguinDad Hi PA 11:02 DanDuncombe Oh 11:02 DanDuncombe God 11:02 DanDuncombe MushroomMan is here! 11:02 sfan5 11:02 DanDuncombe He hates me. 11:02 * PilzAdam hands MinetestBot flowers 11:02 MinetestBot <3 11:03 * DanDuncombe hands MinetestBot Mese blocks and diamonds 11:03 * MinetestBot throws a bomb at DanDuncombe 11:04 * DanDuncombe doesn't care in the slightest/ 11:04 * MinetestBot throws an explosive kitten at DanDuncombe 11:05 * DanDuncombe eats it. 11:05 PenguinDad Is Dan from China or Japan? 11:05 * DanDuncombe does a huge explosive burp 11:05 sfan5 ugh 11:06 DanDuncombe Kittens cause flatulence, you know. 11:06 DanDuncombe Especially in outer space. 11:07 DanDuncombe Can someone test my Windows Minetest installer? 11:08 DanDuncombe It is not as good as the default one yet... 11:09 FreeFull Sorry, linux here 11:09 DanDuncombe Only works for Windows I think. 11:13 Calinou of course it's only for windows :P 11:13 DanDuncombe Yeah. 11:21 hoodedice So... 11:30 * Jordach hands MinetestBot some flowers 11:31 MinetestBot <3 11:32 PenguinDad sfan5: I have an idea to the colour problems http://webtoman.com/opera/panel/ircdmodes.html 11:34 thexyz yeah 11:34 thexyz and idea 11:34 sfan5 derp 11:34 thexyz that sfan5 turned off +C instead of +c 11:34 sfan5 ^ dero 11:34 sfan5 *derp 11:34 Jordach DUN DUN DURR 11:34 sfan5 !op 11:34 kaeza bold 11:34 sfan5 eh 11:34 thexyz how stupid is that 11:34 sfan5 eh 11:35 sfan5 fuck you ChanServ 11:35 sfan5 !deop 11:35 Jordach !!deop ChanServ 11:35 thexyz that was hilarious 11:35 Jordach or just temp disable ChanServ's memory 11:36 thexyz enjoy MLOCK 11:37 Peacock PAs builds are malicious? lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6915 11:38 Calinou "chrome told me it was malicious." 11:38 Calinou it'll tell you that for ANY .exe 11:38 Calinou ... 11:38 sfan5 the builds are .zip 11:38 Calinou it's just someone who can't read an error correctly 11:39 Peacock how is that determined, do people have to report these things, or they use some sort of algo? 11:39 Calinou it's just something always done 11:39 Calinou blame chrome, blame windows 11:40 Calinou it'll even tell you that for .jar or .html files 11:40 sfan5 if $filename ~ \.exe$ then ask_the_user_if_he_really_wants_to_dl_it() end 11:40 thexyz it also works on linux 11:40 Semilevel just use Opera or Firefox, nobody forces you to use shitty Chrome 11:40 Peacock opera -> joke, firefox -> chunky salsa 11:41 Peacock though chromium > g. chrome 11:41 Peacock there used to be, iron i think too 11:41 Semilevel well, don't bother to bitch about Chrome then if things do not work or can't find settings to disable warnings. 11:41 Calinou opera is a chromium clone now :P 11:41 Calinou Semilevel: le chrome hatred 11:41 Calinou chromium is best pony 11:42 Semilevel I'm still on 12.16~ 11:42 Peacock ? i wasnt bitching about chrome, was asking about the thread lol 11:42 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105466#p105466 <3 11:42 Semilevel <3 11:42 Peacock someone needs coffee lol 11:42 Semilevel Peacock, yep 11:42 sfan5 so my raspi just simulated almost 100 000 generations of an conways game of life thing 11:43 * Jordach loves game of Life 11:43 * Jordach also enjoys the board game 11:43 Peacock oh, and another reason to love pulseaudio : completely, radically different audio levels for flash and vlc, i nearly sharted myself loading a news clip this morning lol 11:43 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/vUNF2PR.png 11:43 kaeza dat face 11:44 thexyz pupssshhhht audio is good 11:44 Calinou le pulseaudio hatred 11:44 Calinou consider not using VIA chipsets, that's all 11:44 Calinou on top of that, it's no longer beta 11:44 Peacock VIA? 11:45 Calinou yes, some mobos still have (usually terrible) VIA chipsets 11:45 Peacock pretty sure mine are stock hdaintel 11:46 sfan5 ^ mine too 11:46 thexyz i don't see anything wrong with pulseaudio, to be honest; for me (just "normal" user, not a musician or something) it just works 11:46 Peacock me its the poppy/crackly stuff that drives me apeshit lol 11:47 thexyz oh, that's odd 11:47 Jordach har har. 11:47 thexyz the only problem I have is that wine grabs audio output 11:47 Jordach i use USB Speakers bitches 11:47 thexyz sometimes. 11:47 Peacock took quite a few googles to find tsched = 0/false (dont remember which value) 11:48 Peacock and on the newer rig, everytime i pause a video, the audio dies, i have to adio -> disable then reselect track, though since switch audio output module to alsa theres no problems 11:49 Peacock (grammar will improve with coffee intake :P) 11:51 thexyz dunno, doesn't happen to me 11:51 Jordach Blender is an asshole: http://i.imgur.com/5NYVkT5.png 11:51 thexyz did you report this bug? 11:52 Peacock to PulseAudio? lol they have the same denial issues as unity devs lol 11:52 Calinou haters gonna hate, Peacock 11:52 Calinou if you don't know how to report bugs, they will deny it 11:52 Calinou if you keep saying "your software is shit", same thing 11:52 Peacock calinou some projects will use any excuse to keep bug reports to a minimum, thats when users stop bothering reporting them 11:53 Calinou Jordach: USB on linux is russian roulette 11:53 thexyz Peacock: did you report this bug? 11:53 Calinou Peacock: no. 11:53 Calinou just no 11:53 Jordach Calinou, my Triton Headset works with it 11:53 Calinou yes, on windows 11:53 Jordach it works with PulseAudio 11:53 Peacock calinou, how long you been using linux and associated software? 11:54 Peacock thexyz there are a ton of open reports yes 11:54 Calinou since 2009 11:54 sfan5 !c 4*1024 11:54 MinetestBot 4096 11:54 Peacock calinou come back to me when its been ten years :p 11:54 Calinou sfan5: that's easy to do it yourself, lol 11:54 Calinou Peacock: linux is constantly evolving 11:54 sfan5 Calinou: when you do kernel programming your brain has other things to do 11:55 Peacock calinou wasnt reallly talking about evolution, just different atitutdes to bug report depending on where you file 11:55 Calinou there is no "attitude" 11:56 Peacock if you say so lol 11:56 Calinou in general, if you write a bug report that isn't long but still has enough info, it will be used by the developers 11:56 Calinou and if you don't start being pissy about the bug too 11:56 thexyz Peacock: so, there is a bug report that matches your problem exactly, correct? 11:56 Peacock usually its the dev responsible who gets pissy (again, this is project-specific) 11:57 Peacock thexyz, like i already said, the solution was to tsched = 0 11:57 thexyz 15:48 < Peacock> | and on the newer rig, everytime i pause a video, the audio dies, i have to adio -> disable then reselect track, though since switch audio output module to alsa theres no problems 11:57 Peacock oh that, i got bounced between VLC and pulseaudio 11:57 Calinou which software? 11:57 Calinou I can pause a video on parole just fine 11:59 PenguinDad Fun Fact: In Audacious you can use SDL as Audio Driver 12:00 thexyz Peacock: so did you report it? 12:00 Peacock i told you, vlc and pulseaudio blamed eachother, i have better things to do than argue with either 12:01 Peacock this one took 5 months for them to admit it existed: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/6181 12:01 Peacock a year and a half before getting a fix lol 12:05 sfan5 PenguinDad: make sense, SDL includes an audio api aswell 12:05 thexyz Peacock: can you just answer "yes" or "no"? 12:06 PenguinDad sfan5: yeah I know that 12:06 Peacock let's see, if they blamed eachother, then they were obviously made of aware of the problem, no? 12:07 thexyz it's hard to talk with you, let me ask again: did *you* *report* it? (y/n) 12:08 Jordach thexyz, you arent forced to submit bugs on linux 12:08 Peacock its hard to talk with someone who can't deduce things, yes i emailed them about the problem 12:09 thexyz Peacock: yeah, it's hard to talk with silly stupid me, I understand; anyway, since I'm so stupid, let me ask another question: why did you email them instead of opening a bug in bugtracker? 12:10 Peacock registrations, automated emails for every comment, having to check back every few months, etc. 12:11 Peacock get a much clearer answer contacting the project/dev directly 12:11 Peacock besides, like minetest has bugs forums, and github issues, other projects have both of those, plus a bug tracker lol 12:11 thexyz you don't have to, it's just if you want this bug to be fixed/be fixed faster 12:12 Peacock well if they answer your email at least you know theyre aware of the problem 12:13 thexyz of course they do 12:13 thexyz for the following 5 minutes or so 12:13 Peacock well some users have more free time to deal with these things than i do 12:14 Peacock and if the devs are busy too then i dont have more time to put on it 12:17 Peacock its funny though, people can say a thousand times chrome/google/facebook/ms is evil, but any comment that casts any project in the slightest bad light, and this place turns into nuremberg :P 12:19 thexyz Peacock: then don't complain 12:20 mirda now i am as Ritchie :) 12:20 Peacock because we're not allowed to speak ill of anything non-prop? 12:20 mirda exit 12:20 Peacock as if the opposite isn't annoying after the 1000th time 12:21 thexyz no, you either report a bug and then complain or complain and then are told to report a bug 12:22 Ritchie moreblocks:iron_stone_bricks has broken recipe, it shows unknown item for stone brick in crafting guide (unified_inventory) and cannot be crafted, i am trying it on landrush server. Problem is in mod moreblocks or landrush server has something bad? 12:22 Peacock i complained about them passing the buck, which ain't the same as not bothering to report the problem in the first place 12:22 Peacock in any case people are way too touchy about their favorite sw 12:38 Peacock Sky Tower (jenga) http://www.dysturb.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mvrdv2.bmp 12:40 sfan5 !c 131072*2 12:40 MinetestBot 262 144 12:40 sfan5 Peacock: > 2013 > .bmp 12:40 Peacock ? 12:41 thexyz >2013 >slow connection 12:42 Calinou there are lot of people with slow connections (eg. 512 kbits), even in developed countries 12:42 Peacock im talking about the tower, not the file format? (take it up with the webmaster) 12:42 Calinou .bmp is still terrible, though 12:42 kaeza Calinou, why? 12:42 Calinou it's uncompressed 12:43 kaeza ...so? 12:43 Calinou so it's inefficient and big 12:43 Peacock take it up with the webmaster? 12:43 kaeza uncompressed == fast to read 12:44 Ritchie bmp is format, where every pixel have described RGB colors 12:44 kaeza anyway it's not like you can use PNGs without uncompressing them in memory 12:44 thexyz lol 12:44 thexyz this channel should be renamed to #holywars 12:44 thexyz also, that sky tower sucks 12:44 Ritchie uncompressed != fast to read 12:44 Peacock lol only on #minetest does showing an arcitecture pic degenerate into a format war lol 12:44 Ritchie :D 12:45 kaeza Ritchie, ok, good point there 12:46 kaeza still, bmp does not suck 12:46 thexyz no it does 12:47 thexyz for daily usage 12:47 Ritchie bmp has same size in Bytes for one resolution whatever is in this image 12:47 thexyz .png is better 12:47 Ritchie thexyz: +1 12:47 Peacock can we have an offtopic channel for these kinds of debates? 12:47 kaeza of course, but that's not the point :) 12:48 PenguinDad #minetest-flamewars :D 12:48 kaeza bmp has it's uses 12:48 thexyz also, h264 is better than vp8 12:48 thexyz anything else? 12:48 kaeza yes, SDL sucks 12:48 thexyz kaeza: like..? 12:48 kaeza use Allegro 12:49 kaeza thexyz, archaic OSes :P 12:49 thexyz that's a bad argument 12:49 thexyz any others? 12:50 kaeza ok, bmp sucks :| 12:50 Calinou yes, SDL sucks 12:50 Calinou le SDL hatred 12:51 Peacock kaeza not easy to quit smoking on here is it :P 12:51 PenguinDad SDL is good for old systems 13:18 Jordach ladies, ladies, put the format war bazookas down 13:24 thexyz .psd sucks 13:25 thexyz https://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?r=f16763d221dfca6253983824b470adf553a19e06#108 13:29 * Calinou backstabs Jordach using format war spylactite 13:39 * PenguinDad raises his Format War Rifle 13:53 DanDuncombe Is anyone here good at building modern blocky prefab buildings? Like this: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0liI50MPEVAPSez42stWBoEXWl4SoMtkakCygpawbybWr6itc 13:54 DanDuncombe If so, could someone build one with the prefab mod and pm me a screenshot. 13:59 DanDuncombe Never mind. 14:21 FreeFull kaeza: What's wrong with SDL? 14:21 kaeza ? 14:22 FreeFull "< kaeza> yes, SDL sucks" 14:22 kaeza see previous line 14:23 kaeza wrong button... 14:23 FreeFull I don't see anything on the previous line that answers my question 14:24 kaeza FreeFull, that was meant as a joke to the_xyz's question 14:24 PenguinDad I use SDL for the sound output of Audacious :D 14:25 FreeFull kaeza: Allegro isn't actually that bad nowadays =P 14:25 FreeFull SDL wins though 14:25 FreeFull Especially with the changes 2.0 has brought about 14:25 FreeFull It'll take a while until everyone ports their things to 2.0 14:25 kaeza I have yet to try SDL 2.0 14:25 kaeza tried 1.2 (?), didn't like it 14:26 FreeFull SDL is the easiest way I found to make a C program portably output audio so far 14:26 kaeza actually, I have used Allegro for quite a while, and found the SDL API too hard to use 14:26 kaeza but it's just me 14:27 FreeFull Doing direct writes to the screen buffer is slightly iffy 14:27 FreeFull But not too bad 14:28 FreeFull At least, it was in 1.x, I haven't checked what it's like in 2.x yet 14:28 FreeFull My distro already has SDL2 in its repositories along with SDL1 14:31 DanDuncombe Where the hell is the travelnet mod? I can't find it anywhere... 14:32 PenguinDad https://github.com/sokomine/travelnet 14:32 DanDuncombe Thsnks 14:33 FreeFull http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/MigrationGuide This talks about the changes 14:33 FreeFull PenguinDad: irssi 14:35 DanDuncombe Doesn't this look beautiful? Kind of blends... http://s10.postimg.org/nn8tsz3eh/screenshot_11837391.png 14:36 DanDuncombe It is the kind of amazing buildings they should build, not stuff like this: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/How-Tudor-Houses-Were-Made.jpg&imgrefurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/how-tudor-houses-were-made/&h=600&w=800&sz=145&tbnid=N0vtekP2P3ensM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__R9iSluF9q213nnsxyUTharHK6Jk=&docid=J-YYLab83nBGRM&sa=X&ei=ypULUs6OFcTK0AWx3ICoBw&ved 14:36 PenguinDad FreeFull: 4 minutes to late :P 14:37 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: please shorten your links by using !sh v.gd [link] 14:37 Peacock speaking of long-ass links lol 14:37 DanDuncombe !sh v.gd 14:37 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Give me an url shorten service and an address 14:37 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd 14:37 FreeFull You're not meant to link using google anyway =P 14:37 FreeFull You could just link directly to the image 14:39 Peacock yeah google links are incredibly long, ontop of the original it contains 14:48 Miner_48er has the snow mod been fixed so it dosen't snow underground? 15:01 DanDuncombe !sh v.gd http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/How-Tudor-Houses-Were-Made.jpg&imgrefurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/how-tudor-houses-were-made/&h=600&w=800&sz=145&tbnid=N0vtekP2P3ensM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__R9iSluF9q213nnsxyUTharHK6Jk=&docid=J-YYLab83nBGRM&sa=X&ei=ypULUs6OFcTK0AWx3ICoBw&ved=0CEEQ9QEwAQ&dur=182 15:01 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: http://v.gd/JnkOKc 15:04 kaeza DanDuncombe, the point of using !sh is to do so via PM :P 15:04 PilzAdam why dont you give a direct link to the image? 15:05 PenguinDad PilzAdam: that's the other question 15:06 DanDuncombe Does WE save facedir? 15:06 DanDuncombe Also: Is VanessaE there? 15:06 Peacock she's gone to London to the see Queen 15:07 DanDuncombe Oh, really, all the way from North Carolina? 15:07 Peacock whats odd with that? are you racist against people from North Carolina? 15:08 DanDuncombe No, but would she comeall the way to England? 15:08 Peacock :P 15:08 DanDuncombe to see the Queen? 15:08 DanDuncombe Anyway, I'm talking with the Queen now, and I don't see VanessaE. 15:10 DanDuncombe What a cheery place this is! http://s24.postimg.org/cz6jlv605/screenshot_13813656.png 15:11 DanDuncombe [sarcasm]Wouldn't you just love to live there?[/sarcasm] 15:11 rubenwardy Hi all 15:11 DanDuncombe Hello 15:11 kaeza hey ruben 15:21 DanDuncombe Lol http://www.thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/wearejustdoingthistobestupidnowsincethiscangoonforeverandeverandeverbutitstilllookskindaneatinthebrowsereventhoughitsabigwasteoftimeandenergyandhasnorealpointbutwehadtodoitanyways.html 15:25 DanDuncombe What is the difference between indev and v7 mapgen? 15:26 rubenwardy indev is old 15:26 rubenwardy it is just an alternate path 15:26 rubenwardy iirc, anyway 15:26 sfan5 !title 15:26 MinetestBot sfan5: Longest URL in the world was? Find out now. 15:30 DanDuncombe Pineapples FTW! 15:30 rubenwardy I need ideas 15:30 rubenwardy What does capture the flag need? 15:31 rubenwardy 1> A flag :P 15:31 rubenwardy for a minetest game that is 15:31 DanDuncombe 2) some definition of teams 15:31 rubenwardy check 15:31 rubenwardy that also handles city vs city games (players can attack another teams city and take it over) 15:31 DanDuncombe 3) Some for of arena maybe? 15:32 DanDuncombe 4) A time limit 15:32 DanDuncombe 5) Weapons 15:32 DanDuncombe 6) Different classes of player 15:33 DanDuncombe EG, scout, heavy, doctor, citizen, soldier, officer, fruit-picker 15:33 DanDuncombe Fruit pickers are most deadly 15:34 DanDuncombe ICBMs of some sort 15:34 DanDuncombe Players to do it 15:38 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95955#p95955 15:38 rubenwardy is a screenshot 15:45 PilzAdam bbl 15:48 Peacock well, ill definately need a new mouse - just had an office space moment with the old one XD 15:53 Peacock oddly enough, the 7yr old ps/2 still works flawlessly for the p4 lol so i took that one's usb mouse 16:11 rubenwardy My game, capture the flag, will use chat plus 16:12 rubenwardy should i make the main mod, "capturetheflag" depend on chatplus, and put the chat stuff there (players can only see their own team) 16:12 rubenwardy or should I make a new mod and put the chatplus stuff their 16:12 rubenwardy there 16:13 PenguinDad rubenwardy: make "capturetheflag" depend on chatplus 16:13 rubenwardy ok 16:14 Peacock id say make the team chatting seamless (integrated) 16:19 Peacock is the chat part of the hud, or layered over it ? 16:20 rubenwardy ask minetest_dev 16:20 rubenwardy oh 16:20 rubenwardy no 16:20 Peacock i wouldn't go there without three oil tankers of gin first lol 16:21 rubenwardy All chatplus does if overide the default sender on 't' and allow you to cancel messages to certain players 16:21 rubenwardy s/if/is 16:21 rubenwardy so cancel if sender is on ignore list, or is not part of team 16:22 rubenwardy there is /all which sends the msg to all players 16:22 Peacock i was actually thinking, if chat was part of hud, id move it to the bottom right, make the font smaller and add more lines/history, and move the 8 tiles to the left 16:22 rubenwardy yeah 16:22 Peacock and keep the hud layer beneath the inv layer 16:23 thexyz lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6919 16:23 rubenwardy yeah 16:23 sfan5 inb4 someone bans Ragnar again 16:23 rubenwardy idea! 16:23 Peacock lol 16:23 thexyz I'm interested! 16:23 Peacock i read "inb4 someone bangs Ragnar again" 16:24 rubenwardy competition for 'who is the most nooby ish' 16:24 rubenwardy ragnar vs likwidcraft 16:24 DanDuncombe Please tell me what you think https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105573#p105573 16:24 sfan5 The allowed languages are:[...]JavaScript 16:24 sfan5 inb4 lamefun will compete 16:24 thexyz guys how about we all participate? 16:25 sfan5 "Maximum size of the code may only be 10MB" lawl 16:25 rubenwardy "Codes may not be compiled! If they are then you will be disqualified!" 16:25 rubenwardy "C and C++" 16:25 rubenwardy WTF? 16:25 sfan5 ^ 16:25 DanDuncombe !title 16:25 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Minetest_Mapper for Windows- made easier! (Page 1) — Minetest-related projects — Minetest Forums 16:25 sfan5 DanDuncombe: is it a batch script? 16:25 thexyz rubenwardy: you don't get it 16:25 rubenwardy oh 16:25 DanDuncombe Yes, sfan5 16:25 thexyz rubenwardy: that means you should provide the source, not binary file 16:25 rubenwardy they mean supplied in compiled format 16:26 thexyz (I think) 16:26 rubenwardy yeah 16:26 * sfan5 haz idea 16:26 thexyz I'm interested in what kind of programs are we to write in those competitions 16:27 sfan5 Some of you know that I wrote a small kernel for the raspberry pi, I'll just send in my Program for that, it uses a custom libc and nonstandard things :D 16:27 thexyz it starts in an hour! 16:29 sfan5 who will send in an Hello World program? 16:29 * NekoGloop noms sfan5 16:30 * sfan5 throws a kitten at NekoGloop 16:30 NekoGloop :3 16:30 * Peacock fires futon torpedos at NekoGloop 16:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Peacock's head 16:30 * NekoGloop tosses flowers at MinetestBot 16:30 MinetestBot <3 16:37 * jin_xi is going to submit 10MB of CODE!!!1!11 16:39 thexyz ok guys 16:39 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Fix my name. 6228d634fb 2013-08-14T09:35:38-07:00 http://git.io/qtif0g 16:40 thexyz since shell is allowed, i'm going to submit this: perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see' 16:40 thexyz or this ISF=$(echo '%\%#{<-{}<&{`' |tr ' -/:-@[-`{}' '`-{/ -');$ISF 2>/dev/null 16:40 thexyz though no, I'm not that evil 16:50 Exio4 wait wait 16:50 Exio4 is gnawhatevershit, the java coder, ragnar? 16:51 Peacock who knows, there are so many MPD's on minetest lol 16:51 * Jordach prepares the ban hammer 16:51 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105570#p105570 16:51 Peacock ban hammer > sfan's "op position" lol 16:53 thexyz Jordach: why? 16:54 thexyz are you seriously going to ban people for holding a programming contest with prizes? 16:54 Jordach thexyz, he's linking his own place rather than using our own forums 16:54 Jordach thexyz, he's spamming his own shit 16:54 Jordach > prizes? 16:54 Jordach lol. fat chance of anything 16:55 Peacock well if you start banning people for promoting their own stuff, there shant be anyone left 16:55 thexyz yeah, well, some people in Minetest community are interested in coding so I don't see anything terribly wrong with this post 16:55 thexyz I mean, he isn't spamming dragon dildos or something 16:55 Jordach ^ might make a new sig 16:57 Jordach Peacock, thexyz - from other people's views, ragnar is pushing his limit 16:57 * Jordach is also getting bored of the same shit daily. 16:58 Peacock landmine did too and you kept him as a pet here for a year lol 16:58 Jordach at least he was actually fun 16:58 Peacock some people would debate that as well :P 16:59 Jordach Peacock, his IRC antics anyways 17:00 thexyz wait, who did keep LM? 17:01 thexyz this guy does nothing harmful as opposed to LM 17:01 Peacock dunno, someone would ban him, someone else would unban the next day 17:02 thexyz the fuck 17:05 Jordach LM is harmful when pissed off 17:05 Peacock i dont think he was ever pissed off save the first time, after that it was just trolling 17:11 DanDuncombe Just updated the batch filea bit. 17:11 DanDuncombe *file a 17:19 Jordach hello Calinou 17:20 Jordach want a to be my render guinea pig> 17:21 Calinou no u 17:31 thexyz http://gnadev.hj.cx/code.php it says error -( 17:31 sfan5 his code probably tries to use the post param 17:31 sfan5 s before the form is submitted 17:32 sfan5 s/post/$_POST/ 17:32 Jordach lol 17:32 thexyz no i want to participate! 17:32 Jordach thexyz, fork bomb him :D 17:33 * sfan5 gets his forkbomb shellcode out of the file 17:34 sfan5 \xb0\x02\x31\xdb\xcd\x80\xeb\xf8 (linux only) 17:35 sfan5 find a vulnerable webserver and boom, instant webmaster annoying 17:35 sfan5 s/annoying/annoyance/ 17:35 Jordach sfan5, five euros that ragnar's server is breakable by it 17:36 * sfan5 cd's to /opt/metasploit ;) 17:46 sfan5 "The competition has not yet started!" lolwat 17:50 sfan5 !op 17:51 sfan5 !deop 17:51 khonkhortisan user@host:~> :(){:|:&};: 17:51 Peacock its supposed to be a topic not a preface :p 17:51 khonkhortisan I forgot my flowers 17:54 sfan5 !op 17:55 sfan5 !deop sfan5 sfan5 sfan5 sfan5 sfan5 17:55 sfan5 hahaha 17:59 sfan5 someone press the read button 18:04 Calinou [read] 18:04 Peacock cant find the 'any' key 18:11 Tesseract sfan5: Could you get the bot disconnected for excess flood with that? 18:11 sfan5 Tesseract: dunno 18:11 Peacock ive seen the bots kick eachother for flooding once lol 18:12 Tesseract My bot ignores ops and MODE commands. 18:13 Tesseract I don't think MinetestBot has the capability to auto-kick/ban 18:13 thexyz what flood are you talking about? 18:13 Peacock i wonder, if you hook both of em up to a chat, would they take to eachother? XD 18:13 Peacock *chatbot 18:13 Peacock alice-type thing 18:13 Tesseract Peacock: Maybe for a few seconds, until my bot auto-ignored the other. 18:14 Tesseract thexyz: The "MODE #minetest -o sfan5" flood. 18:15 thexyz hm 18:15 thexyz 21:55 --- MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot sets modes [#minetest -o sfan5] 18:15 thexyz ^ what I got 18:15 sfan5 Peacock: yes 18:15 thexyz don't see any flood 18:15 Peacock beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice 18:15 * Peacock hides 18:15 Tesseract thexyz: Your client combined the commands. 18:15 thexyz wait, you mean, that's not what other clients do? 18:16 PenguinDad I got this five times: Modus #minetest [-o sfan5] durch MinetestBot 18:16 thexyz hm, okay 18:19 Jordach ( 18:19 Jordach * MinetestBot removes channel operator status from sfan5) * 5 18:24 DanDuncombe Another update to world_mapper.bat 18:26 DanDuncombe Jordach, do you use Windows? 18:26 Jordach yes 18:26 Jordach /ctcp Jordach version ;) 18:26 DanDuncombe Can you try out the world mapper.bat I made? 18:26 DanDuncombe See if i works for you 18:26 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6920 18:27 kaeza better yet: write a graphical frontend using Tkinter :P 18:27 Tesseract DanDuncombe: Does it have a gui? 18:27 DanDuncombe Sort of 18:27 hoodedice So... 18:27 DanDuncombe It has a text gui of sorts 18:27 hoodedice Windows decided to update again 18:28 hoodedice And for the first time IT'S ACTUALLY FRIGGIN NAGGING ME ! 18:28 hoodedice Jordach ! Explain this ! 18:28 Tesseract hoodedice: ubuntu.com 18:28 hoodedice Duh 18:28 hoodedice I already use Xubuntu 18:29 kaeza :| 18:29 hoodedice *Sparingly* Thank you family members 18:29 Tesseract hoodedice: rm -rf C:\ 18:29 hoodedice Indeed. I have half the mind to do that 18:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/XrC9VlQ.png <- DanDuncombe 18:30 Peacock lol well if family needs win, cant really deprive them of the comp too 18:30 sfan5 Jordach: you can have the latest map from me if you want 18:30 DanDuncombe A densely populated place, Jordach 18:30 hoodedice I wish I had my own 18:31 DanDuncombe Shall I make it configurable to either have player names or not? 18:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, --drawplayers shouldn't be used for it 18:31 Jordach make a note: is this world a multiplayer world>? 18:31 Jordach then it should then draw players, otherwise, no 18:31 hoodedice *Jordach avoids the obvious* 18:31 DanDuncombe Shall I just disable it altogether? 18:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, i have for myself, yes 18:32 DanDuncombe I will do that then 18:32 Jordach huh 18:32 Jordach just found a few nyan cats in the mapper 18:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/3QIw3e2.png 18:33 hoodedice The GNU GPL was not designed to be "open source". - Rick STallman 18:33 hoodedice =.= 18:34 Peacock dont mind Richard Mary Stallman :p 18:34 PenguinDad s/Rick/Richard 18:35 Jordach Peacock, can i have that mod that generates the waterworld that you made 18:35 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 18:36 Jordach hey 18:36 DanDuncombe HIY! 18:36 PenguinDad hi family 18:36 Peacock i 18:36 Peacock shit thought i was on mt lol 18:36 Jordach lol 18:36 Jordach :P 18:36 thefamilygrog66 d'oh! 18:36 Peacock its not really a mod just a few lines added to default 18:37 Jordach you mean a abm that adds water at xyz 18:37 thefamilygrog66 what's in your inventory, Peacock? 18:37 Exio4 !kick Jordach 18:37 Exio4 i mean 18:37 Exio4 hi 18:37 Peacock look at moonrealm atmos 18:37 Peacock should be ovbvious ;) 18:37 Peacock *obvious 18:37 Peacock what about my inventory? 18:37 Exio4 did anyone rewrite moonrealm to use the voxelmanip? 18:38 thefamilygrog66 i 18:38 Peacock no so i pulled it from my map 18:38 Peacock in my inv? just cement and black glass 18:39 sfan5 20:13:28: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: nore supplied wrong password << wat 18:41 thefamilygrog66 Does anyone remember the fixed compass block that globis had on his server? If so, what was it called? 18:41 Peacock see, cement and black glass: http://s22.postimg.org/6dx6c8f0h/screenshot_2116043107.png 18:43 thefamilygrog66 I'm looking for something that I can place (on the ground) that has the four directions on it, so players can know which way is north without having to hit F5. 18:48 Peacock my compass is a tool you use in any given direction, got 4 major and 4 minor points 18:49 thefamilygrog66 Peacock, it's something a player carries around though, isn't it? 18:50 Peacock yeah, tho servers creative 18:51 thefamilygrog66 There was a really simple mod, that Globis used to have running on his server, which is just a fixed node that had the four directions on the top, so you could place it in the ground. 18:52 Peacock should still be around the forums somewhere 18:53 kahrl just place down a tree node 18:53 kahrl in the middle of the top texture there's a dark "L" that points south west 18:54 thefamilygrog66 Hmm, I've looked for it in the forums, but no luck so far. Might have to make a new one. 18:54 sfan5 Jordach: yet many nyan cats to find... http://i.imgur.com/cO2jzMG.png 18:55 PenguinDad kahrl: it works :D 19:03 hoodedice So,.. 19:03 hoodedice Is Kaspersky worth buying? 19:04 Calinou no. just no. 19:04 Calinou hoodedice: antiviruses are software based on FUD. 19:05 Calinou don't even install one, and learn how to be on the internet carefully 19:05 hoodedice I will be 19:05 hoodedice But I don't trust a 4 year old and a 9 year old and a 13 year old 19:05 Calinou use adblock 19:05 hoodedice 13 yr old once downloaded an 'anime video' 19:06 hoodedice .exe 19:06 thexyz hoodedice: yes, support mother russia 19:06 hoodedice I don't. It will destroy dev revenues 19:06 hoodedice I'm communist 19:06 Calinou adblock blocks potentially malicious ads 19:06 hoodedice Problem? 19:06 Calinou which point to such thing 19:06 Calinou +s 19:06 thexyz also, don't listen to Calinou 19:06 Calinou lazy webdesigners can't be bothered to check what are their ads 19:06 Calinou no u 19:06 thexyz antivirus on Windows is a must 19:06 hoodedice Well, the adblock which my brother uses blocks *every* ad 19:06 Calinou thexyz: how come I used windows for 1 year just fine without an AV? 19:07 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Omnicleanup: header cleanup, add ModApiUtil shared between game and mainmenu 4e1f50035e 2013-08-14T12:03:33-07:00 http://git.io/1WOLgw 19:07 thexyz don't trust this shit about ^^^ 19:07 Calinou I know people who do that just fine, and they don't have anything wrong 19:07 hoodedice Well, kaspersky used to block worms too 19:07 Calinou please don't turn others' opinions into "shit" like that, too 19:07 thexyz those guys just don't know that they're infected :^^: 19:07 Calinou I'm not 19:07 thexyz they also think they're not 19:07 Calinou stop saying people are infected and they don't know it, it's FUD again. 19:07 hoodedice Peacock 19:07 thexyz well 19:07 Calinou look at process list, CPU, RAM, network and disk usage 19:07 hoodedice THIS https://plus.google.com/104558499469001680053/posts/eFcBAcBjRFR?partnerid=gplp0 19:08 thexyz Calinou: you see, you can not be sure 19:08 Calinou you can only be sure by using linux, actually 19:08 hoodedice I used to have over 75 rocesses on my XP 19:08 thexyz Calinou: so don't they you ain't got them 19:08 Calinou so tell these people to switch to linux while you're at it :P 19:08 Peacock his family uses windows 19:08 thexyz when I used Windows I thought the same 19:08 hoodedice *I use Xubuntu already* 19:09 Calinou 4, 9 and 13 year olds using linux? :O 19:09 Peacock and its probably best to get a good free antivir 19:09 Calinou how can they? it's not cool enough... xonotic 20:16 thefamilygrog66 it does have a fungal quality to it... 20:16 Jordach * Received a CTCP VERSION from Ritchie 20:16 Calinou interlacing makes textures larger 20:16 Calinou avoid using it 20:16 thefamilygrog66 thanks 20:16 thefamilygrog66 it's a huge texture as it is 20:17 thefamilygrog66 (wanted a nice looking ground compass_ 20:17 Jordach i have some ideas on making the mouth properly work for now 20:18 Ritchie Jordach: yeah, i see it that you did it to me, now i know what it does 20:18 thefamilygrog66 funny how windows regional settings assume that because the computer is in Canada, it uses metric... 20:19 Calinou use a ten foot pole to fix that. 20:19 PenguinDad Windows Logic 20:20 thefamilygrog66 I don't think I've ever used A4 paper in my life. 20:20 Ritchie i have a problem with minetestserver on my own server, if power outlet has no energy while minetestserver is running, world files get corrupted and i cannot start minetestserver with that world 20:21 Ritchie i haven't redundant power to server :-/ 20:21 thefamilygrog66 backup regularly Ritchie - you might be able to repair it using sqlite as well. 20:23 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: yes, i will backup world using cron script. May i do backup while world files are opened by running minetestserver without shutting down it? 20:23 thexyz that's not a good idea 20:23 thefamilygrog66 I'd guess you'd need to sudo killall minetestserver before backing it up, but maybe someone else here has a positive answer 20:23 Jordach you have to shutdown then copy the files 20:24 thefamilygrog66 there ya go 20:24 Ritchie ok 20:25 thefamilygrog66 Ritchie: are you using linux or windows? 20:26 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: server is running debian 20:28 * Ritchie don't like windows, he uses linux on desktop too :) 20:28 thefamilygrog66 You could try this on your corrupted world - it might work or not, but worth a try: 20:28 thefamilygrog66 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=48160#p48160 20:41 Jordach VanessaE, i think i found the best method to make the lips work 20:41 VanessaE oh? 20:42 Jordach it doesnt need bones apparently 20:42 Jordach from what i've seen on blender wiki, shape keys are better apparently 20:43 VanessaE *whoosh* I have no clue what you said :) 20:46 thefamilygrog66 talking Sam? 20:47 Jordach thefamilygrog66, for animatics, yes 20:47 thefamilygrog66 nice. I remember in my day, SAM was a talking computer program for the Commodore 64. 20:48 thefamilygrog66 sorry, enough with the old guy stuff 20:49 PenguinDad Come back MinetestBot :'( 20:49 Jordach looks like the gen 3 models wont work with minetest anymore :( 20:50 Jordach (when using lip sync in blender, by creating shape keys, you can easily make certain shapes with the mouth to make it look like he's talking without armatures) 20:51 Jordach and you can then sync it to an audio track for awesome ness 20:52 * Jordach wants to test this at some point as an example 20:54 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: sqlite init didn't work, minetestserver ends with same error as before try to fix world 20:54 thefamilygrog66 sorry that didn't help, Ritchie. not sure what else you could try 20:58 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: thank you for help, nevermind, i am trying to change various settings in mods so corrupted world nevermind but it would be usefull if is functional howto to fix world 20:59 thexyz lol @ current humblebundle 21:00 hoodedice #Lettheflamewarstart : Bazaar vs Github 21:00 thefamilygrog66 anything fun in the current one, thexyz? 21:01 thexyz it's windows-only 21:01 Calinou #lettheflamewarstart: flamethrower vs backburner vs degreaser vs prog-- too hard to spell. 21:01 thexyz but those games… 21:01 Calinou meanwhile: most people praise those games 21:01 hoodedice progesterone? 21:02 Calinou no, it's the name of a flamethrower in TF2, but have fun spelling it right 21:02 hoodedice pyro? 21:02 thexyz did anyone say they're bad? 21:02 Calinou yeah :p 21:02 hoodedice degreaser? 21:02 hoodedice Pyro. 21:03 hoodedice Peacock : Hearts 21:04 hoodedice Peacock : teleport > dome spawn 21:05 thexyz despite the bundle being windows-only "average linux" column has the biggest numbers 21:05 hoodedice Peacock : No need 21:10 hoodedice w? 21:10 kaeza w! 21:10 PenguinDad w!? 21:10 kahrl wtf did the mapgen decide to do? http://imgur.com/oABy85K 21:11 hoodedice rofl 21:11 sfan5 good night guys 21:11 hoodedice ASIAN ! 21:11 hoodedice good night 21:11 sfan5 asian? 21:11 sfan5 kahrl: lol 21:11 hoodedice Night here too, so... 21:12 sfan5 you in asia? 21:12 hoodedice Ya 21:12 hoodedice :3 21:12 * sfan5 has +0200 timezone 21:12 sfan5 not good nigth 21:12 hoodedice ooooh 21:12 sfan5 *night 21:13 hoodedice Peacock 21:13 Peacock hoodedice sorry was showering lol just finished the frame on my new tower 21:13 hoodedice lol sorry 21:13 Peacock you stuck somewher? 21:13 hoodedice I gots a way for ze elevator you wanted 21:13 hoodedice not anymore 21:14 Peacock id code the elevator myself but i dont have the energy to maintain a release lol hopefully someone does it 21:14 hoodedice This VanessaE's trick 21:15 hoodedice alternate blocks with ladder underneath 21:15 hoodedice (Works without the ladder too lool) 21:15 VanessaE that ain't my trick as such 21:15 VanessaE something I picked up from calinou actually 21:16 hoodedice Well first time I saw it was from the redcrab server 21:16 Jordach calinou would enjoy this: http://i.imgur.com/EA7x9ob.png 21:16 hoodedice It's kinda fun though 21:17 Peacock meh, i just want a box that goes up and down 21:17 Peacock too many floors to program teleports lol 21:17 hoodedice Relacemeent for now 21:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DBedcqm.jpg 21:17 hoodedice lol 21:18 Peacock had to give up tea lol cause varicose veins 21:19 Peacock except green and white tea which does the opposite :/ 21:19 hoodedice Should be sleeping now *Yawn* 21:19 hoodedice ciao 21:19 Peacock nite 21:20 Peacock besides i can get a 1kg of cuban coffee (whole beans ) for about 14-15$ depending on the week 21:39 Niften What the hell Minetest. Why? 21:39 Niften Why would you do that? 21:39 kaeza because 21:39 Niften We never did anything! 21:41 Jordach Calinou's girlfriend spotted in the wild: http://i.imgur.com/JM1fCZ9.jpg 21:41 Niften Jordach why would you do it? 21:41 Niften Why did you do it? 21:42 PenguinDad o_O 21:42 kaeza O_o 21:43 Niften We gave you proper credit, and we followed the rules, so, why would you do that? 21:43 Peacock ? 21:43 Semilevel what 21:43 Peacock am i the only one who's confused? lol 21:43 Semilevel Not really. 21:44 PenguinDad i'm confused too 21:44 jin_xi seems like crevis site was defaced and Niften here thinks it was Minetest 21:44 jin_xi whatever... 21:44 Niften Actually, it's the last result possible. 21:44 Peacock ah well, the list of people with motives is rather short :/ 21:44 Niften Preston & the others didn't do it. 21:44 Niften It points to Minetest. 21:45 Peacock how does it point to minetest? 21:45 Niften Hold on. 21:45 jin_xi well, who is minetest... 21:45 Niften You didn't do it? 21:45 Niften You guys didn't? 21:45 Semilevel nope 21:45 PilzAdam lol, http://www.crevis.net/ 21:45 Niften I trust you guys... so I'm going to believe you and look for other options. 21:45 Niften xD PilzAdam 21:46 Peacock seems to point more to MC... 21:46 PenguinDad plol 21:46 Semilevel Announcing the new Crevis "Pre-screen" 21:46 Semilevel by Niften : 21:46 Semilevel I totally suck black balls 21:46 Semilevel this is so true 21:46 kaeza ptrollolol 21:46 Semilevel http://www.crevis.net/news.html 21:46 Peacock careful semilevel, you can get black-balled for talking like that XD 21:47 Peacock oh that was a quote LOL 21:47 Semilevel x3 21:47 kaeza this is better than CommunistCraft 21:47 PilzAdam ^ 21:48 Peacock simple, do a geolocate on the IP, report it to the authorities there 21:48 PilzAdam Peacock, I dont really think that someone hacked their site 21:49 Peacock well between this niften dude and preston (both seem to be targeted) who else had access? 21:49 Niften Vinnie. 21:49 Peacock and did you piss off your cousin vinnie? 21:49 Niften Preston "hired" a random hacker for no reason. 21:49 kaeza DUN DUN DURR 21:49 Niften -.- 21:50 Niften Probably him. 21:50 Niften Idk. 21:50 Niften Fixing the website. 21:50 Peacock im surprised they didn't touch the "etable animal meat" lol 21:50 Peacock same thing with "updated bluestone" lol 21:51 PenguinDad etable == Electronic Table? 21:52 Peacock well they should have change animal to man, and bluestone to blue... lol 21:52 Peacock in keeping with the new theme lol 21:53 Niften Everyone: I know someone from Minetest did it because there are references to Minetest. 21:53 Niften Someone. 21:53 Peacock but why would it say to play MC instead then? 21:53 Peacock not many people here are fans 21:54 PenguinDad I wasn't it because I hate minecraft 21:54 PilzAdam I suspect someone from the crevis devs 21:55 jin_xi you will need some kind of GUI written in visual basic to check the IP 21:55 Peacock well yeah the first thing id do is check the IP against logs 21:55 PilzAdam they realized that it didnt work out as expected so they "ragequited" the project 21:55 Peacock youll know if its one of your guys 21:55 Peacock you mean they werent making money lol 21:56 Niften Demoted everyone on the website and their rank is a "member" as a precaution. 21:56 Niften Changed password 21:56 Peacock that wont cause butthurt lol 21:56 PilzAdam I like the new trailer, though 21:57 Peacock i would have gone with gunther levi lol 21:57 PenguinDad The trailer shows many aspects of the game 21:59 Niften Thanks Pilz. 21:59 Niften :D 21:59 kahrl what does it mean if someone is "Possibly Resigned"? 21:59 Niften Thanks Penguin. 21:59 Niften It means that we don't know if they quit or not. 22:00 Niften Do you guys still hate us? 22:00 Niften And, just created a nodebox for bookshelves and the ability to put 2 items in a bookshelf. 22:00 Exio4 we hate all the people 22:00 Exio4 for example, we all hate PilzAdam! 22:00 Niften xD 22:00 Exio4 (because renewable lava) 22:01 * PilzAdam puts renewable lava on Princess Exio4's head 22:01 PilzAdam are you happy now? 22:01 * Exio4 looks at his new air helmet 22:01 kahrl Hassen, ganz hässlich hassen, ich kann's nicht lassen, ich bin der Hass 22:02 * jin_xi ist nichts als harz im hirn und hass im herz 22:02 Exio4 ok 22:06 Niften Everyone, evidence either points to the people with administrive access to the website, or to Minetest. 22:06 Niften On the website, there are references to Minetest. 22:06 PilzAdam yea 22:06 Niften Or Preston. 22:06 PilzAdam the Minetest entitiy walked over to that website and changed it 22:06 Niften Either one. 22:06 Niften Mmhmm. 22:07 Niften xD 22:07 sdzen I think a gambit is afoot 22:07 hoodedice Enough slee 22:07 hoodedice *sleep 22:08 PenguinDad Bye, bye 22:12 Niften Wow, so much damage... 22:13 jin_xi you have a backup, right? 22:13 Niften Before it got damaged I created a nodebox for bookshelves and had it so you can put stuff in the bookshelf. :D 22:13 Niften An outdated one, jin_xi 22:16 Niften Wow, this sucks. :l 22:58 Miner_48er when does Tesseract come on? 22:58 Niften I think sfan5 did it. 22:58 Niften Honestly. 22:58 Niften Preston must've pissed him off. 23:19 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add virtual destructor to IBackgroundBlockEmerger to silence warning 58beca005c 2013-08-14T16:16:34-07:00 http://git.io/2OcbdQ 23:32 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6929 23:33 kaeza (read the title) 23:33 Menche #1 best topic title 23:33 Menche my goodness I really want to help this person out with their very well thought out, researched, and well asked question. 23:34 Menche 23:34 kaeza I'm tempted to point him to "How To Ask Smart Questions", but I feel I'd be feeding the troll. 23:34 PilzAdam kaeza, you have to physically smack it in their face 23:34 PilzAdam there is no other way 23:34 kaeza err... "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" rather 23:35 * Menche prints out the "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" and grabs a stapler and some glue 23:35 kaeza don't forget the duct tape and the dildos 23:35 Menche wait, his eyes probably can't focus on something that close if it's stapled directly to his face. 23:36 NakedFury hi guys 23:36 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 23:37 thefamilygrog66 yay, my compass worked: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/82/v84m.png 23:38 * Menche gives this to CaptianCanti: http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/unplggd/2008_10_30-caps-lock-traine.jpg 23:39 kaeza Menche, how about each one of us post that image in that topic? 23:40 Menche i posted that in response to a post with excessive caps lock before 23:40 Menche eh, that was a while ago. don't think it's gotten old yet. 23:40 kaeza aww shit... Hybrid Dawg replied :( 23:42 Menche or this one: http://www.geekgumbo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/capslock4.jpg 23:43 PilzAdam I would reply to that post but then people will start to whine about the evil Pilz again 23:44 thefamilygrog66 what's up with that evil Pilz, anyway? 23:44 kaeza meh, in this case, go ahead 23:48 Menche someone suggested that we use coordinates: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105657#p105657 23:48 Menche ...has he never checked his location or teleported? 23:49 PilzAdam from reading his first sentences I think he thought that we give mapblocks names 23:49 PilzAdam e.g. "TottalyAwesomeMapblock", and "CoolMapblockWithCastle" 23:49 Menche "random numbers/letters or whatever it is now" 23:50 PilzAdam what is not random in my examples? 23:50 PilzAdam that is as random as my examples 23:51 PilzAdam just because mine are readable doesnt mean they are not the output of /dev/random 23:52 Menche i'm not even sure how that would work 23:52 Menche how would the game know how the blocks are ordered if they didn't have some sort of coordinate associated with them