Time Nick Message 00:19 Pentium44 hi 00:19 Pentium44 who knows cpp here? 00:19 PilzAdam Pentium44, have you read the rules of this channel yet? 00:20 PilzAdam simply ask your question 00:20 Pentium44 ohh 00:20 Pentium44 I did 00:20 Pentium44 who knows cpp here? 00:20 Pentium44 thats a question 00:20 Pentium44 and it does relate to minetest so meh 00:21 PilzAdam and its not just that you can ask him another question? 00:21 PilzAdam ehm, my English sucks 00:21 Pentium44 its ok 00:21 Pentium44 PilzAdam, can I as you? you know cpp if you are developing minetest 00:21 PilzAdam usually when people come here and ask "who knows *****" then they have _real_ question and just search for someone to answer it 00:22 Pentium44 PilzAdam, good point 00:22 Pentium44 I do 00:26 Evergreen Ehm.... 00:38 mpdavis73 well, found the source of my problem - opengl - going through ubuntu troubleshooting guide for opengl now 00:38 Peacock would you rather go bald, or have one of these haircuts? http://cheezburger.com/7706568960#comments 00:39 mpdavis73 bald by choice now, so...lol 00:39 Peacock hehe dont worry, was a general question for anyone lol 00:39 Peacock honestly, 60's hair was better lol 00:40 Peacock with haircuts like those, im not surprised ww3 almost happened in the 80's, someone had to stop these hairdos lol 00:43 Peacock funnier: http://cheezburger.com/7707060224 00:46 mpdavis73 heh - i had a feathered mullet in HS 01:26 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add replacements to schematics 45589fae58 2013-08-02T18:22:14-07:00 http://git.io/fX_4Bw 01:29 sokomine i setteled for writing a temporary file. that seems to work fine. for now, hmmmm may relax a bit :-) 01:30 Peacock jesus, 4th pot of coffee, only the tupperware left to wash lol 01:30 Dogzilla131 Can somebody recommend a server that has shop as a mod?(no creative world) 01:30 Peacock landrush i think 01:30 Peacock they mentioned something about a mall in the thread 01:34 Peacock pulseaudio does network sound, unfortunately the rig with the sound system is hda-intel :/ (Pyrrhic victory?) 01:34 Peacock pa on that box sounds like a gofer stuck in a lawnmower :( 01:36 PilzAdam has anyone ever tried fixing a corrupted git repo? its a PITA 01:37 Peacock hell i cant get past setting one up :P 01:40 PilzAdam I am still missing an object, its not referenced anywhere, though 01:40 PilzAdam so, if someone ever gets a git object called "82f541a1d0dfd53d8daf8d993c4cfd1b14b8dd" then be sure to pass it to me :-) 01:42 PilzAdam sokomine, are you happy now? 01:48 PilzAdam bye 01:51 Peacock deer lord, only the salt shakers left to wash now :-) 01:52 Peacock https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3130154337/9520907e47ad668402fa266864d7fd7b.jpeg 02:01 mpdavis73 i wonder if my dual monitors is too much for my onboard intel graphic 02:01 Peacock probably 02:01 Peacock how old? 02:01 Peacock (the board) 02:01 mpdavis73 i915, Asus board 02:01 mpdavis73 less than a year 02:02 Peacock hm, mauybe not 02:02 Peacock as long as its not sluggish playing youtubes/videos 02:02 mpdavis73 i had issues with marble arena, but not fps 02:02 mpdavis73 walls were blinking 02:03 Peacock could be a driver/opengl thing tho 02:03 Peacock i know i wouldn't plug two monitors into my p4, but thats got seven years under its belt lol 02:03 mpdavis73 using intel driver - will nuvoux run opengl? 02:03 mpdavis73 nuveaux? 02:04 Peacock nouveaux's the open driver or the cosed one? 02:04 mpdavis73 open 02:04 Peacock eek 02:04 Peacock try the closed 02:04 mpdavis73 i'm on the proprietary now 02:04 Peacock any beter? 02:04 mpdavis73 not sure, i'm generally not a gamer 02:05 mpdavis73 works great with solitaire 02:05 mpdavis73 i forget why i switched 02:05 mpdavis73 maybe for marble arena 02:06 Peacock i got ATI on the newer box and nvidia on the older 02:06 mpdavis73 i get ~60fps, then when i pause (esc) for a while, sometimes fps drops to <10 02:07 mpdavis73 i had a lag, but that was fixed when i moved the .minetest folder to my ssd 02:07 Peacock for the life of me i cant remember the names of either prop. driver :/ 02:07 mpdavis73 from my zfs mirror pool 02:07 Peacock my fps on the newer rig is around 40-50 w/ ATI 02:08 Peacock the p4 gets about the same asa client, but not running a server too 02:08 mpdavis73 i hit solid 59-60 most of the time, with vsync on 02:08 Peacock if i look at the sky i get 60 XD 02:08 mpdavis73 then, bam, 5-15 02:08 mpdavis73 lol 02:09 Peacock when i get 15-16 players its around 13 lol 02:09 mpdavis73 just me most of the time - relaxes my brain from work 02:09 mpdavis73 i'm leveling a mountain right now 02:10 ShadowNinja //pos1 //pos2 //set air :-) 02:11 mpdavis73 er? total noob to minecraft/minetest 02:11 mpdavis73 heard a mention on linux action show 02:11 mpdavis73 need to read up on it 02:12 mpdavis73 working on a switch to arch, testing in vbox for my zfs and citrix for work 02:15 mpdavis73 for fps, since a logout/login resolves, its gotta be some opengl cacheing or similar 02:21 mpdavis73 seems to be only when i switch to another app for a while 02:22 mpdavis73 bbl - backup server down at work from the emails i am getting 03:14 bas080 who wouldn't want to make nodeboxes from within minetest. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_1109915477.png , It has save function which saves the node so when you restart the world it loads the newly made nodes. You can set the amount of detail of your nodebox. I'm calling this polymer mod as plastics are very shape-able. Choosing what material it is and giving it a name instead of item ## 03:14 bas080 could be future features 03:21 bas080 if you would want to test it you can find it here https://github.com/bas080/OCD/tree/master/mods/nodeboxer. Wil make a topic and seperate repo soon 03:21 Exio4 is OCD the new drug that is used as LSD replacement? or what? 03:21 Exio4 :> 03:22 bas080 Exio4, it is a great alternative 03:23 Exio4 lol.. 03:24 bas080 ;) 03:47 * VanessaE is back 03:47 VanessaE just bowled a perfect game on the Wii :D 06:11 kaeza greetings 06:11 kaeza also: WTF https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103514#p103514 07:53 VanessaE jeez, more dead here than usual tonight. 08:16 kaeza 'murica is still sleeping 08:16 kaeza the majority at least, not counting us weirdos :P 08:18 kaeza and probably Europe too 08:18 kaeza looks like MY has more people from Germany than from anywhere else :P 08:18 kaeza MT* 08:20 PenguinDad kaeza I think you are right in this point 08:29 VanessaE heh 10:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:12 Calinou_ hi 10:15 VanessaE hey PilzAdam 10:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, when I last tested HDX I noticed that the view-range autotuner was slower 10:21 PilzAdam could you check if its faster with default textures for you, too? 10:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: you should re-download that HDX zip btw, it has been improved. 10:21 VanessaE sure 10:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's definitely a lot faster with default textures 10:24 VanessaE though still slow (about 3 seconds for a 1m increase in range) 10:25 * IceCraft hi 10:25 VanessaE hi 10:25 Calinou hi 10:27 VanessaE call it 2-3 seconds per meter with default, and 10+ seconds per meter with HDX (but there's no logical reason for the difference) 10:27 VanessaE imho it should ramp up/down at no less than 16m/sec regardless of your current fps or the texture size 10:31 VanessaE well it could reduce the adjustment speed as it gets close, but currently it's just too slow either close to or far from the target fps 10:50 VanessaE bbl 11:02 PenguinDad hi Evergreen 11:02 Evergreen Hello 11:31 iqualfragile_ PilzAdam: i am using default textures and its still fucking slow 11:38 PenguinDad hi Jordach and kaeza 11:54 Evergreen Hey everyone, I found a nice media converter called FF Multi Converter. It can convert audio, video, images, and more using various command line programs. It also outputs the command used to convert the file. 11:58 Jordach Evergreen, you using some distro? 11:58 Evergreen I am suing ubuntu 11:59 PenguinDad *using 11:59 Calinou lol suing 12:00 PenguinDad Evergreen: you can convert media using VLC too. 12:00 * Jordach uses VLC to convert ) 12:00 Evergreen Iklol at the typo, also ik that you cna use vlc 12:00 Jordach :)* 12:01 Evergreen Whoops, I mean lol at the typo 12:01 Evergreen Stupid typos. :P 12:01 Evergreen So basically it is a gui shell for a bunch of command line programs 12:02 Evergreen *I think it is at leat 12:09 Jordach Evergreen, i just made a xbox 360 controller using blender (in voxel style) :P 12:09 Evergreen Awesome. :P 12:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/u85dbsJ.png 12:18 Jordach Evergreen, ^ 12:18 Evergreen Great! 12:34 PenguinDad https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103558#p103558 <- wut? 12:34 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/u85dbsJ.png 12:35 Jordach ^ wrong image 12:35 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/SGjpSFb.png <- correct 12:35 Jordach ^ Evergreen 12:35 Calinou lol france 12:35 Evergreen Awesome 12:35 ShadowNinja lol, but /me has a better jail mod. :-) 12:36 Jordach does it feature dungeons 12:36 Jordach ;) 12:37 PenguinDad ShadowNinja: i don't mean the mod itself i mean the idea 12:37 Jordach anyways, im fucking out for the weekend; laptop wifi is broken so i'm not going to be here 12:37 Jordach :( 12:48 ShadowNinja PenguinDad: Yes, I know. 13:01 PenguinDad !sfu Shadow 13:01 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No Results found 13:27 Peacock dangit, broke the shower head mount :( 13:27 Peacock plastic crap 13:28 ShadowNinja sfan5: Seems sfu broke. 13:38 PenguinDad !g Burnings Video 13:38 MinetestBot PenguinDad: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/dvd-video-burning-frequently-asked-questions 13:41 Calinou lol 13:55 PenguinDad Calinou: i haven't searched for this :\ 14:32 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I already know 14:45 init still in ecuador? :P 14:45 PenguinDad Hello john_minetest 14:47 kaeza oh john_minetest is in the hood? 15:08 iqualfragile_ hi 15:09 PenguinDad NekoGloop: the treasure chests from your glooptest are funny :) 15:09 NekoGloop oh, someone actually uses glooptest? 15:10 PenguinDad yep 15:12 NekoGloop how are they funny? 15:13 PenguinDad You can play without trees 15:13 NekoGloop mhm 15:16 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head 15:17 PilzAdam he releases servers? 15:18 NekoGloop apparently 15:18 OldCoder 15:18 OldCoder john_minetest, That is fine 15:19 OldCoder There are two issues for me. I must get UDP working on my new server. This is the issue there. The host has set up a new network and hopes to debug it. Can't go back to old server because the new one is DAMN FAST. 15:19 OldCoder And I need LevelDB in the core. 15:19 OldCoder Can't go back to old format either. 15:21 OldCoder 15:50 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix and improve view range tuner c50c9a10f1 2013-08-03T08:46:18-07:00 http://git.io/VYp0cQ 15:59 pitriss please can anybody help me? I want to disable "item dropping" in technic game... Is enough to move item drop outside mods directory? or is there any cleaner solution? 16:01 PilzAdam pitriss, enable_item_drop =false in minetest.conf 16:01 PilzAdam technic checks for that 16:04 pitriss PilzAdam: Thank you very much.. 16:04 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Lessen the sky color glitch when quickly turning to look up after looking at ground that contains caves bc5db9b027 2013-08-03T09:04:16-07:00 http://git.io/3ZDjpg 16:19 sfan5 !up c55.me 16:20 MinetestBot c55.me:30000 seems to be down 16:29 Peacock Peacock.make({coffee=true}) 16:29 Peacock who wants a cupper? 16:34 jin_xi placing too many schematics at once can crash the server 16:38 jin_xi ^^ disregard that 16:41 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Actually it checks technic.conf in the world directory. Unless it has been changed. 16:50 Peacock huh, mugabe won, im flabbergasted lol 16:55 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/852 nice :D 16:55 Peacock indeedies 16:56 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, oh, you are right 17:04 Pentium44 I like the current hacky scripts :P 17:11 ShadowNinja john_minetest: Currently they are in textures/all/ That changes it to textures// 17:23 ShadowNinja john_minetest: No, mods will still have textures if you don't have a texture pack enabled. 18:21 Evergreen Hi everyone 18:24 BlockMen hi 18:25 Evergreen I love all your pull requests blockmen, they are very useful. Just wanted to say that. :P 18:25 BlockMen Evergreen, thanks! Nice to hear :) 18:32 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103612#p103612 seems legit 18:33 Peacock lol google translate 18:37 Evergreen x) 18:37 Evergreen It shows how wrong google translate is sometimes 18:37 PilzAdam *always 18:37 Evergreen Let me try putting a sentance through several translations and see how it comes out 18:38 Evergreen This should be funny 18:38 PilzAdam 10 bucks is something about apple pie 18:38 PilzAdam *its 18:39 Evergreen Okay, the following sentence will be the one I will put through several translations: 18:39 Evergreen Hello, how are you today? I'm fine, you? Very good, thank you. 18:41 Peacock "qué carajo la tarta de manzana" 18:41 Peacock something about apple pie ;) :p 18:42 init wat 18:42 Peacock translated backwards it makes no sense lol 18:43 Evergreen Okay, final result. 18:43 Evergreen Hey, how are you? M stars, right? Very good, thank you. 18:43 Evergreen Lol 18:50 VanessaE Peacock: it's "cupper?" I always thought it was "cuppa" (as in "cup of")? 18:50 Peacock possibly :P ive heard it but not seen it written 18:50 VanessaE hi all. 18:51 sokomine hi 18:53 bas080 is it possible to load a new node in game? And if so, why not? 18:54 bas080 in-game* 18:54 Peacock i asked that a long time ago and the answer was no :p 18:55 bas080 I wonder if such a thing will be possible ever. My polymer mod can really use it. 18:56 Peacock you can try your luck on -dev :p 18:56 VanessaE bas080: there's a commit celeron55 and RBA were working on some time ago that lets you re-define a node in the map 18:56 VanessaE (you could change textures, the model, everything about it) 18:57 bas080 VanessaE, it would be great being able to manipulate nodes in game. 18:57 Peacock is it still in the pipeline? 18:57 VanessaE Peacock: not really, no 18:58 sfan5 bas080: minetest.register_node works in-game, clients have to rejoin to actually see the node however 18:58 sfan5 IIRC 18:58 VanessaE no one has seen fit to really wring that code out to see if it will behave properly in the long-term 18:58 PilzAdam sfan5, never heard of that 18:58 PilzAdam AFAIK it ignores it a prints a warning 18:59 sfan5 well it could work 18:59 sfan5 (if it wouldn't ignore it) 18:59 bas080 i get warnings too 18:59 Peacock it would be nice to change textures, we wouldn't need so many duplicate (and more) nodes 18:59 bas080 atm i have an in game nodebox designer but i have to restart before it loads the saved node. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_1166757675.png 18:59 sfan5 5 18:59 sfan5 oops 19:00 Peacock right now you can fake it with entities 19:00 kaeza 42 19:00 Peacock scale 0.667 i think 19:00 PilzAdam Peacock, textures only are not enough 19:00 Peacock i know :P but all i asked for then was textures 19:01 sokomine it would be great if we could change textures ingame. for maps, that would involve sending the generated map to the client 19:01 sokomine oh. peacock said that already 19:01 sokomine ought to read before i write :-) 19:01 Peacock tho theyre going up one or two protocols for weather so i doubt this would be in 0.4.8 19:03 Peacock speaking of, im waiting for 0.4.8 to switch my server to crunchbang lol though i may end up doing it tonight and settling on 0.4.7 in the meantime 19:03 bas080 will nodeboxes be supported in the future? 19:03 bas080 The lua_api.txt states 19:03 bas080 "nodebox -- See below. EXPERIMENTAL" 19:03 Peacock well if you can change a node's properties i imagine it applies to all nodes 19:04 Peacock including changing the actual nodebox box 19:04 Calinou they aren't that experimental 19:04 Calinou that note was left in 19:04 Peacock sound like jimmy two-times (goodfellas) lol 19:04 bas080 EXPERIMENTAL, is it not past experimental stage? 19:04 Calinou it is 19:04 bas080 Calinou, got it 19:05 bas080 Is improving lighting of nodeboxes on the todo list? 19:05 Peacock smooth lighting? 19:05 bas080 Peacock, f.e. 19:06 Peacock f.e.? 19:06 Calinou yes, no smooth lighting on nodeboxes :( 19:06 bas080 There must be other ways of improving rendering. 19:06 Calinou there is 19:06 Calinou make tons of shaders :P 19:06 Calinou and high res textures 19:06 Peacock lord... lol 19:09 Peacock "Harmful levels of second-hand smoke found on Montreal patios", one problem, patios tend to be jam-packed while the inside is empty lol 19:10 Peacock (they want to ban smoking on patios now) 19:10 sokomine banning smoking is good 19:10 VanessaE good! 19:10 Peacock the more of these ridiculous measures they pass, the more people will do it out of spite 19:10 bas080 i agree, but is it also better for smokers? 19:10 Calinou smoking bans are usually respected in france 19:10 sokomine it helped many people here to get rid of it after prices rose and rose and rose. i know several people who gave up due to that 19:10 VanessaE smoking should be banned entirely - it kills the smoker and it doesn't do any good for his neighbors' health either 19:11 Peacock why dont they ban alcohol and junk foods while theyre at it 19:11 Calinou sokomine: people get rid of it when the price increase is sudden. 19:11 Calinou it happened once in france, but recently the price increases are small. they prefer getting money on the short term... 19:11 sokomine perhaps. there where several tax-induced price rises 19:11 VanessaE Peacock: because drinking and eating only affect the person consuming said items? 19:11 sokomine most likely, yes....big portion of tax income 19:11 VanessaE (except in the case of drunk driving maybe) 19:11 bas080 Banning stuff doesn't work. Allow it and just don't advertise it to little children 19:12 Calinou VanessaE: for drinking, not if the drunk person drives :P 19:12 Calinou and you're in car with them :P 19:12 bas080 afk 19:12 Peacock drinking = drunk drivers, over-eating = health problems (socialized health here, costing me too) 19:12 VanessaE Calinou: ninja'd :) 19:12 bas080 Let robot's drive cars not humans 19:12 bas080 Problem solved. 19:12 bas080 afk 4 real 19:12 sokomine more crashes? 19:12 Peacock they wanna tax cigarettes thats fine, but tax all unhealthy things 19:12 VanessaE Peacock: consuming junk food != overeating 19:12 VanessaE drinking != drunk driving 19:13 VanessaE some of us are a little bit smarter than that :P 19:13 Peacock obesity is a bigger problem in america than smoking is now 19:13 VanessaE yep 19:13 Peacock people can drink themselves into health problems, lethal fights, etc. 19:14 Peacock then theres car exhaust, and all those people driving alone in a car made for 4 19:14 VanessaE it comes from a combination of foods that are explicitly made to be addictive (which tends to make them quantifiably unhealthy at the same time), eating to excess because of large portions, and lack of adequate exercise, until your body develops a metabolic insufficiency that requires surgery to correct. 19:15 Peacock thats a good enough reason to tax unhealthy food, make it more expensive so people can't afford to eat their way to obesity 19:15 VanessaE tax the shit out of foods that are loaded down with salt, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, etc. 19:15 VanessaE in other words, tax the shit out of the unhealthy ingredients, not the whole foods 19:15 BlockMen another wallpaper of me https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/n420q3wgiq8zfmm/mt_wallpaper_stone_mesepick.png :) 19:15 Peacock alcohol is already taxed pretty much the same as cigarettes here though 19:16 Calinou looks good, BlockMen 19:16 Peacock though they still wanna ban one while controlling the distribution of both 19:16 BlockMen Calinou, thx 19:16 Evergreen Very nice, BlockMen 19:17 Peacock then theres drug money that goes to cartel/syndicates while everyone else pays for treatment, its all very contradictory policy lol 19:17 kaeza lol smoke ban 19:18 BlockMen Evergreen, thx too 19:19 BlockMen has someone an idea what else i could take for wallpapers? 19:19 Evergreen I'll have to make some simplistic artwork background or something. Btw, I love simplistic. 19:19 Calinou or talking about libboost, john_minetest 19:19 Evergreen I like some complicated things, but to much of it, and/or in the worng place makes it look cluttered 19:19 kaeza BlockMen, make the minetest logo in-game 19:20 kaeza (in 3D with actual nodes) 19:20 BlockMen Evergreen, yes. simplistic can be great if known how to use. unfortunatly im not always good in that^^ 19:20 Calinou kaeza: Evergreen did that recently, for his faithful pack 19:20 kaeza oh? 19:20 Evergreen Actaully, zeg did that 19:20 Evergreen :P 19:20 BlockMen kaeza, do you think i can use your mod for that and then screenshot it? 19:20 kaeza link? 19:21 init nice WP BlockMen! 19:21 Evergreen It's ib the texture pack banner 19:21 Evergreen *in 19:21 kaeza BlockMen, I meant the landscape; not a bitmap rendition 19:21 BlockMen thx init 19:21 Evergreen I actually want to try recreating it in minetest 19:21 Calinou john_minetest: insanely old laptop then, or a very bad one :P 19:22 BlockMen kaeza, oh. 19:22 BlockMen and yes, nice idea! 19:22 kaeza BlockMen, anyway, you could make a screenshot of an imported screenshot of an imported screenshot of an imported screenshot ... 19:22 Evergreen The island in this banner is the recreation that zeg did http://mt-faithful.sourceforge.net/data/banner.png 19:22 BlockMen lol 19:22 Evergreen SCreenshot-ception 19:22 kaeza hah that's cool 19:23 VanessaE Evergreen: oh I like that 19:23 BlockMen Evergreen, you built ingame or changed the logo with gimp? 19:24 Evergreen Idk, zeg did it 19:24 Evergreen I might try building it in minetest 19:24 kaeza seems legit 19:24 kaeza actually doable with the insanely low liquid_update setting :> 19:25 Calinou or fake water 19:29 BlockMen kaeza, lol 19:34 Evergreen Or airlike nodes 19:35 Evergreen Which ofc exploits a bug of water not flowing through other airlike nodes 19:35 Calinou yep, maptools "clip" nodes 19:39 Evergreen Oh yes, I forgot about those 19:39 Evergreen :P 19:40 Evergreen Sometimes I forget how useful the maptools mod is for maps 19:40 Calinou yep 19:43 VanessaE PilzAdam: did you re-download that HDX zip? 19:44 PilzAdam no, why would I? 19:44 VanessaE because I pushed a few fixes that affects some default nodes and hence made it into that zip 19:44 VanessaE -s 19:45 PilzAdam I dont use it, just wanted to test bumpmaps with a 512px pack 19:45 VanessaE oh ok 19:45 PilzAdam (to be honest, HDX is horrible) 19:45 * VanessaE shrugs 19:46 VanessaE not everyone likes it 19:46 Calinou HDX looks horrible without filtering 19:46 VanessaE ironically, most of those fixes were bumpmaps :) 19:46 Calinou with filtering, it could use better colours on some textures :/ 19:46 Calinou I think grass is too green, it's unrealistic 19:46 PilzAdam btw, I have noticed that bumpmaps dont follow the animation of the node, is that intendend? 19:46 PilzAdam *intentional 19:47 svuorela yay. I constructed a moreblocks:nothing \o/ 19:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, that's a bug in the bumpmapping code 19:47 VanessaE RBA knows about it 19:47 VanessaE a fix should be coming soon 19:47 sokomine i liked some of the images from hdx. perhaps mixing them or just taking some would be a good solution 19:47 VanessaE Calinou: the grass is natural color, maybe you just never saw grass that green before :P) 19:47 VanessaE :P 19:48 sokomine someone also suggested to use simplistic textures for common nodes and more complex ones for rare ones. that might be a good idea as well 19:48 VanessaE bas080 has a texture pack that does that 19:48 sokomine might have been him, yes. i wouldn't go to that extreme of only one color 19:48 Calinou could be a tiny bit less saturated 19:49 Evergreen Just a quick question: What is your favorite font? My favorite is arial, or ubuntu 19:50 Evergreen (and yes ubuntu is a font) 19:50 Calinou ubuntu looks pretty good, yeah 19:50 Calinou arial is a MS font 19:50 VanessaE Evergreen: mine is: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4436 19:50 VanessaE :) 19:50 Evergreen Lol, of course it is. :P 19:51 Calinou I use freetype font, too bad it doesn't have an outline 19:52 Evergreen ACtually arial isn't my favorite font 19:52 Evergreen I'll have to find another, there are plenty of good fonts that don't have serifs 19:53 Calinou ubuntu :P 19:53 Evergreen Lol 19:53 PenguinDad Roboto :P 19:54 Evergreen Partly why I like the ubuntu font is because it is modern/simplistic, and I love modern/simplistic. 19:54 PilzAdam Evergreen, you have played Pilztest, right? 19:54 Evergreen Yop, it is pretty good 19:54 Evergreen Very good if you want a challenge 19:54 PilzAdam do you have any ideas what to do next? 19:58 Evergreen Hmm, it is lacking creative, and I would like it if there were more materials 19:58 Evergreen (creative as in creative mod) 19:58 Evergreen *mode 20:02 VanessaE Calinou: would you mind downloading https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/master/default_grass.jpg make your changes, and post the result somewhere so I can see it? 20:03 Calinou you would also need to change side anyway :P 20:03 Calinou but not now, have to go soon 20:03 VanessaE that's okay, download that ^^^ and I can make the side change also. 20:03 VanessaE (one is derived from the other anyway) 20:04 VanessaE wish I could find a really nice, high-resolution photo of some nice clean grass, that isn't overcompressed to hell 20:05 VanessaE that ^^^ one was the best I could find and it's still not as high quality as I'd like :-/ 20:15 PilzAdam Evergreen, you are not up-to-date, I already included the creative mode some time ago 20:17 Evergreen Ok, I was playing the first version you did 20:29 kaurdump hello. i have the dreaded "failed to emerge player" msg showing up on my minetest server for remote clients 20:29 kaurdump any ideas? 20:30 Calinou kaurdump: players timing out 20:30 kaurdump yep 20:30 Calinou it doesn't cause any problem, other than the player having to wait a bit to log in back 20:30 kaurdump well, i guess i'll try creating a new player and see what happens 20:31 PilzAdam kaurdump, probably a ghost client with the name is still logged in to the server 20:31 kaurdump failed to emerge player with a new user 20:31 PilzAdam just wait until it pings out 20:32 kaurdump so none of those 20:32 kaurdump i can log in fine within my own network 20:32 PilzAdam it should print to infostream what is happening 20:33 VanessaE PilzAdam: imho the server should be able to automatically disconnect a player if that player tries to sign on again from the same IP addrews 20:33 VanessaE address& 20:33 VanessaE ... 20:33 VanessaE that way you don't have to wait 30+ seconds to reconnect after a client crash 20:33 Calinou that should be opt-in, what if 2 people or more play on the same network on a public server? 20:34 Calinou (with NAT) 20:34 VanessaE Calinou: same user ID + same source IP = same person? 20:34 Calinou ah, right 20:34 Calinou you didn't say anything about user name :P 20:34 kaurdump but i'm not experiencing that issue 20:34 VanessaE I figured it was implied by "that player tries to sign on again" 20:34 VanessaE :P 20:36 kaurdump 16:35:50: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:35:52: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:35:54: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:35:56: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:35:58: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:36:00: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerg 20:36 VanessaE that's the server thinking the user in question is still signed on 20:36 VanessaE I get that a lot 20:36 artur99 hi 20:36 PilzAdam kaurdump, we need at least debug_log_level=3 AKA infostream 20:36 artur99 i have this error: 20:37 artur99 http://pastebin.com/iMGCvVdS 20:37 kaurdump oh ok 20:37 kaurdump vanessae, i don't think that's what it is, b/c that was a newly created user 20:37 PilzAdam artur99, why do you install morores in minetest_game? 20:37 PilzAdam thats not the way you install mods 20:38 artur99 i want to make a server 20:38 VanessaE indeed, don't put any mods in minetest_game/mods, put them in $MINETEST/mods instead 20:38 kaurdump odd 20:38 PilzAdam Calinou, ^ bug in moreores 20:38 Calinou that also works when you make a server, artur99 20:38 Calinou it runs fine for me 20:38 kaurdump o well, i'll go work on it somemore / start from scratch 20:39 proller PilzAdam, sapier, need for some winter monsters, spawning on ice or snow 20:39 kaurdump also, quick question. how come some of my clients get red maps? 20:39 kaurdump where do i set log level 3? mintest.conf? 20:39 PilzAdam yes 20:39 Uberi turn off shaders kaurdump 20:39 kaurdump uberi is that in minetest.conf as well? 20:39 Uberi I had the exact same thing with my last laptop, everything was red 20:39 Uberi yep, enable_shaders = 0 20:40 PilzAdam artur99, also, you hae a lot of dependencies not installed, fix that first 20:41 artur99 i reinstalled the mod, and it works now 20:41 artur99 how plants_lib must be renamed? 20:43 Uberi name it plants_lib 20:43 Uberi and if you are using windows, check out MODSTER if you're having trouble with installilng mods 20:44 artur99 and technic-master must be renamed? 20:45 PilzAdam artur99, you can look that up in the forums 20:45 artur99 noting about renaming 20:46 PilzAdam you can see it the topic of the thread 20:48 VanessaE every one of my mods has install instructions in the first post, or at least I thought I made it clear :-/ 20:50 kaeza it doesn't matter if you put a huge notice in red with a 200pt font, at the very top of the post; users don't bother to read anything 20:51 kaeza all they see are screenshots and the download link 20:55 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix anticheat 742614180c 2013-08-03T13:16:37-07:00 http://git.io/swOoOg 20:56 sfan5 ^ what a weird commit URL 20:56 Uberi swoog wuz here 20:57 PilzAdam sw0o0g is the new swag 20:57 BlockMen and means what? 20:57 Uberi I'll get the gasoline and the rags 20:58 artur99 how to keep a messecones circuit opened for more time? 20:58 VanessaE opened? 20:59 Uberi artur99: //replace dirt tnt 21:01 VanessaE and it's spelled "mesecons" 21:01 kaeza Uberi, lol 21:01 VanessaE meany :) 21:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe thats what google translator made out of mesecons?? 21:02 PilzAdam -? 21:02 VanessaE heh 21:02 Uberi with the new WE, I can set the entire visible area to TNT in 2.6 seconds 21:02 PilzAdam define "entire visible area" 21:02 PilzAdam it might be only one node 21:03 kaeza zero if you are "inside" a node with no noclip 21:03 kaeza :P 21:03 Uberi well my view distance is set to 45 nodes I believe 21:03 Uberi so I forget the volume of a sphere calculation 21:04 Uberi but it's like 8*45^3 21:04 Uberi 729000 nodes for the bounding box of the view area 21:04 Exio4 why 8*? 21:05 PilzAdam you look 45 nodes deep into the ground? 21:05 Uberi PilzAdam: not necessarily in the ground! I do all my testing flying in the clouds 21:05 Uberi Exio4: because 45 is in one direction, you also have the other direction 21:05 PilzAdam if you stand on a flat area with 45 node view range you see 21:06 Uberi radius, not diameter 21:06 PilzAdam !c PI*45^2 21:06 MinetestBot 6 361.72512 21:06 VanessaE Uberi: volume of a sphere, 4/3(pi*r^2) 21:06 artur99 i have a solar pannel a wire and a battery box 21:06 artur99 the sun is shining 21:06 VanessaE er (4/3)(pi*r^2) 21:06 artur99 all are the same type low voltage 21:06 Uberi VanessaE: groovy 21:06 artur99 but they dont work 21:07 Uberi wait a minute I can just use //volume 21:07 VanessaE artur99: that's technic stuff, not mesecons 21:07 VanessaE and you need a switching station in the circuit also 21:07 artur99 yes, i know 21:07 artur99 i want to charge a laser 21:07 VanessaE solar array-->switching station-->batt box-->whatever you need to supply power to 21:08 VanessaE put the four side by side, run wiring underneath all 21:09 artur99 thanks 21:09 artur99 it works 21:11 VanessaE yw 21:19 hmmmm uhh 21:19 hmmmm the volume of a sphere is (4/3)*(pi*r^3), not 2 21:21 Uberi maybe for _you_ it is 21:21 Uberi down here our spheres are flat, and we like it that way 21:21 Evergreen Spheres aren't flat, circles are. :P 21:24 nalkri Well, spheres only follow that equation in flat spacetime... 21:24 nalkri As soon as you get non-euclidian geometry, these things can vary 21:24 VanessaE nalkri: I'm reasonably sure we're dealing with normal spacetime here ;) 21:25 nalkri VanessaE: normal spacetime isn't flat :p 21:25 nalkri What we're dealing with is textbook spacetime 21:25 VanessaE ok flat spacetime then, if you wanna be pedantic :) 21:26 nalkri I don't /want/ to be, it's just part of who I am 21:33 VanessaE heh 21:37 nalkri I also mutter about ‘textbook string’ when people make assumptions 21:37 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/lYqheh0.png help meh 21:39 * sfan5 gives NekoGloop a kitten 21:40 * Uberi defeats Piloswine with a bucket of kittens 21:40 NekoGloop >God GARY 21:40 VanessaE Uberi: wait, that won't work...here, hang on 21:40 * VanessaE fiddles with the kitten generator a bit. ok this wire here 21:40 jin_xi this channel needs kitten triggered autoban 21:40 VanessaE that wire...yeah that oughta do. 21:40 VanessaE *click* *bbbzzzzzz* 21:40 Uberi BLUE WIRE, BLUE WIRE! 21:41 VanessaE here, have a box of radioactive kittens. 21:41 Uberi that's something I never thought I'd hear 21:41 NekoGloop Ack, don't give them too much kalite! 21:41 * jin_xi devours the kittens and demands more 21:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: only just enough to make their eyes glow :) 21:41 jin_xi KITTEHS 21:41 Uberi but it has to be in a bucket, you see, the box just won't do 21:41 VanessaE (in broad daylight that is) 21:42 VanessaE Uberi: the generator makes them in larger batches, just scoop some up into your bucket and go for it :P 21:42 VanessaE (think map chunks vs. mapblocks) 21:42 * sfan5 puts a solar panel on the hill and connects it to the kitten generator 21:42 Uberi :O 21:43 Uberi infinite radioactive kittens... 21:43 Uberi .com 21:43 sfan5 s/com/kitten/ 21:43 NekoGloop except, it doesn't run on technic's derplectricity 21:44 Uberi >This domain is available! Register now for $9.99/year 21:44 VanessaE lol 21:44 NekoGloop solar panels aren't even proper solar panels 21:45 Uberi well they're actually powered by gamma rays 21:46 kaeza suddenly: technic in PilzTest 21:46 kaeza wires damage players 21:46 PilzAdam suddenly: kaeza dissapears silently and never comes back 21:46 NekoGloop suddenly: Pilz decides to allow other people to influence minetest 21:46 * kaeza makes an 's' disappear 21:47 NekoGloop (seeing as we're listing things that won't happen) 21:47 sfan5 estimated cost of minetest: $ 1,420,125 | 26 years of effort ( https://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/estimated_cost ) 21:48 kaeza wat 21:49 * sokomine turns off the light to avoid having too many kittens spawn 21:49 * sfan5 presses the big red STOP button... it doesn't work 21:50 * NekoGloop sits on sfan5's head 21:50 kaeza http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ 21:50 Uberi whaaaaaat 21:50 Uberi 1.4 mil 21:50 Menche "Missing Plug-in". well that is disappointing. 21:50 * sfan5 puts NekoGloop on the mesecon power wire 21:51 * NekoGloop lights up the wire 21:51 * Uberi modifies power wire to give Shock status effect 21:51 kaeza Menche, flash :> 21:51 Menche you need flash to play a short sound clip when someone presses a button? 21:51 Evergreen Lol, the discussions we have on IRC... 21:51 * NekoGloop there isn't status effects in MT 21:52 kaeza NekoGloop, nice idea you've got there 21:52 NekoGloop ? 21:53 kaeza nothing 21:53 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Allow mods to listen to cheat detections using minetest.register_on_cheat() 8831669505 2013-08-03T14:45:49-07:00 http://git.io/uTnsNw 21:55 kaeza https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151841 21:55 Uberi muahahaha 21:56 Uberi register_on_cheat is going spawn some hilarious mods 21:56 PilzAdam Uberi, sfan5 already made one 21:57 PilzAdam kaeza, somone came here multiple times and wanted to start a discussion that we switch to JS 21:57 PilzAdam it was lamefun IIRC 21:57 Uberi does it make the player's gravity very very slightly higher? 21:57 Uberi so they can just barely not climb up one node by jumping? 21:58 Uberi does it make wheat grow slower when planted by them? 21:58 Menche or confiscates all the valuable materials out of their inventory 21:58 Exio4 yes, it was lamefun PA 21:58 Uberi does it make leaves dug by them never drop saplings? 21:58 Menche or chats insults at them 21:58 Uberi no no, that's too obvious 21:58 Uberi it's gotta slowly start and get worse over time 21:59 Uberi first, nodes you place rarely get moved to one side randomly 21:59 Uberi then, your chest contents all mysteriously switch around 21:59 Exio4 lol 21:59 Uberi after a while, it slows down for a bit 22:00 Uberi this is to lull them into a false sense of security 22:00 Uberi because after an in-game day, suddenly they take damage from the sun 22:00 Uberi they are now vampires, creatures of the night 22:01 Exio4 hahaha 22:01 Uberi someone get on this mod immediately 22:01 Menche then eating food that normally heals players will hurt them 22:04 Evergreen Lol, that would be epic 22:04 Evergreen x) 22:05 Evergreen They better hope that the server has an inclosed spawn.... 22:06 Evergreen Or it could just do the obvious and auto-ban them, but that isn't any fun 22:06 Uberi the spawn is protected and consists of a brightly lit platform 22:06 Uberi wait wait 22:06 Uberi I know 22:06 Evergreen I think making it so they can barely not jump a block high is a greati idea 22:07 Evergreen Alos be sure they can't shift jump either 22:07 Uberi when caught cheating, player models are replaced by simple mobs' sheep 22:07 Evergreen LOL 22:07 VanessaE lol 22:07 Uberi and they lose interact privs 22:07 VanessaE and everything they say gets scrambled in some way :) 22:07 Evergreen LOLWOW that would be so hilarious 22:07 Evergreen xD 22:07 PilzAdam Uberi, if they have hacked clients than increasing gravity wont have any effect on them 22:07 VanessaE (or just replaced by "baaa, baaa baaa baaa" 22:07 VanessaE ) 22:08 Uberi aww 22:08 sfan5 the revoke interact thing is a good idea 22:08 Uberi but the sheep idea is sound 22:08 Evergreen Someone make this mod NAOW 22:08 Uberi they act exactly like sheep 22:08 Exio4 i think making a "on_cheat" call when breaking blocks without interact with 'VL' 0 is k, too? 22:08 Uberi but they can't tell the other players that\ 22:09 Evergreen Remember that mod that allows to give/revoke certain privs in a given area? 22:09 Uberi because the mod silently ignores chat messages from them that mention sheep 22:09 Evergreen That would be great for protection 22:11 Uberi also, they get to turn back into a normal player if they kill one 22:12 Uberi so you get all these sheep trying to push players off cliffs 22:13 kaurdump what's a good armor mod? 22:13 Uberi I hear 3D_armor is well updated 22:13 kaurdump my kids want me to add one 22:14 kaurdump cool, i'll check out 3d_armor 22:18 svuorela can I somehow get a list of all crafting recipes available (including loaded mods) 22:18 Uberi try the craft guide mod 22:19 Evergreen Zeg9's would preferably 22:19 Evergreen *mod 22:19 sfan5 I need people to test my mod 22:19 Evergreen Or unified inventory 22:22 sokomine what does your mod do? 22:23 sfan5 can automatically ban/revoke interact for players cheating 22:24 sfan5 you can see it in action after I've compiled minetest 22:25 sokomine ah. so something best to be tested on a multiplayer server 22:25 sfan5 yeah 22:26 sokomine why did i forget to equip all my houses with signs? *sigh* 22:36 VanessaE um, oops? :) 23:35 kaurdump so i loaded up 3d_armor, but is there a crafting guide for it? 23:38 Evergreen Use Zeg9's crafting guide mod for all crafting recipies(including mods) 23:39 Evergreen There should be crafting in the mod post too 23:44 kaurdump k thx