Time Nick Message 01:05 sokomine underwater plant: http://mg.viewskew.com/u/sokomine/m/screenshot-324720001/ 01:10 PilzAdam sokomine, "Alle Rechte vorbehalten" why? 01:11 sokomine aeh, wo? wie? 01:11 PilzAdam when you upload something you can choose a license 01:11 sokomine ah, liscence. do you have a suggestion what i ought to put there? 01:11 PilzAdam CC0 01:12 PilzAdam so everyone is free to do anything with it 01:12 sokomine sure? and if i screenshot something where people hold other liscences? 01:12 PilzAdam what do you mean? 01:13 sokomine what if part of a mod is shown where the mod has other liscences for textures? might that be a problem? 01:14 PilzAdam I doubt it 01:15 sokomine i seriously doubt that's the case here (vanessas hdx-textures are usually pretty liberate), but i didn't check *all* liscences of the mods installed. someone might take part of a screenshot and use it elswhere...so i'm not sure if i'm really at liberation to make them cc0? (not that it seems very likely that anyone would be intrested in those screenshots execpt other players) 01:17 sokomine hm. the screenshots as such really ought to be no problem. checked them again and most are for my mods anyway 01:17 sokomine what do you think about the content? about that abuse of plantlike and the scaling factor? 01:18 PilzAdam lets say I have seen worse hacks ;-) 01:18 * sokomine looks innocent :-) 01:19 sokomine it only works if you place a light source near the place where the plant is actually placed :-) 01:20 PilzAdam there is a pretty easy way to get light underwater: just place a 1x1 stack from the bottom to the top of the water, then dig it down from the top to bottom, then the light will go through the water that fills the gap 01:21 PilzAdam Im going to sleep now; bye 01:22 sokomine it's not exactly the ocean floor i have to light...it's the node below. the setup is: water, ocean floor (dirt or something like that), flower, light source (light source can be anywhere next to the plant) 01:22 sokomine pretty quiet here today 03:30 Mallot1 hello, can u guys do me a favor? 03:30 Mallot1 pleas 03:30 Mallot1 e 03:31 Pentium44 yes 03:31 Mallot1 ok, 03:31 Pentium44 do you need something? 03:32 Mallot1 yes 03:32 Pentium44 ok spill it! ;) 03:32 Pentium44 hehe 03:32 Mallot1 i need 10 things to do in minetest :) 03:32 Pentium44 ok 03:32 Pentium44 #1 Try my server 03:32 Pentium44 its Minetest-Classic 03:32 Pentium44 hehe 03:32 Pentium44 #2 Build a Ship 03:33 Mallot1 :D 03:33 Pentium44 #3 Build some pixel art on my server 03:33 Pentium44 #4 Do as many other things that you can 03:33 Pentium44 NO GREIVING :D 03:33 Mallot1 *GRIEFING 03:33 Mallot1 ;) 03:34 Pentium44 ohh 03:34 Pentium44 that F needs to be a V 03:34 Pentium44 plural :D 03:34 Mallot1 yah 03:34 Mallot1 :D 03:34 Mallot1 how did u make a server?? 03:34 Pentium44 so you gonna join? 03:34 Pentium44 just compiled minetest and ran it 03:35 Pentium44 Mallot1, I hosted a server for you before 03:35 Mallot1 you did? 03:35 Pentium44 you may not remember me 03:35 Mallot1 are you UbuntuNerd? 03:35 Pentium44 im the M13! 03:35 Pentium44 yes 03:35 Pentium44 that do 03:35 Pentium44 to* 03:35 Mallot1 :D 03:35 Pentium44 but I do not like Ubuntu so Im now the PuppyNerd! 03:35 Mallot1 man, i couldnt get back on that server 03:35 Mallot1 :( 03:35 Pentium44 I like PuppyLinux 03:36 Pentium44 :( 03:36 Mallot1 :D cool 03:36 Pentium44 you can play on my new one 03:36 Mallot1 im on WIndows8 baby! 03:36 Mallot1 :D 03:36 Pentium44 its minetest-classic so it has new features 03:36 Pentium44 ewww 03:36 Pentium44 windows bad 03:36 Mallot1 lol 03:36 Mallot1 B) 03:37 Mallot1 anyway, is there a chance i could have my server up again? :D :D :D :D :D :D 03:38 Mallot1 hello? 03:39 Mallot1 Pentium44: ^^ 03:39 Pentium44 um 03:39 Pentium44 not currently 03:39 * Kacey high-fives Mallot1 with live tiles! 03:39 Pentium44 I do not have the resources 03:39 Pentium44 Kacey! 03:39 Kacey M13! 03:39 Mallot1 :D 03:39 Mallot1 kacey what up bro B) 03:41 Pentium44 Kacey remembers! 03:41 Pentium44 whoop 03:42 Kacey i nearly fell over when i saw your name... 03:48 Mallot1 :D 03:48 Mallot1 ive seen u on here lately :D 03:49 * Kacey just accidentally smacked a sunburn 03:49 Kacey ow. 03:50 Pentium44 lol 03:50 Pentium44 bet you will not do that again 03:50 Kacey naw give me ~20 minutes or so and i will forget and do it again 05:44 LazyJ Is there anyone here who is familiar with the code of Minetest that handles animated, flowing water? 05:52 JesseH ok, I'm going to try minetest again finally 05:52 JesseH VanessaE, What was your server address? 05:54 kahrl JesseH: vanessae.mine.bz 05:55 JesseH ok thank you 05:55 kahrl LazyJ: just ask your question, maybe somebody will see it 05:55 JesseH port is default 05:55 JesseH ? 05:55 LazyJ Ok, thanks, kahrl. 05:56 kahrl JesseH: yeah 05:56 LazyJ Calinou may have an idea since it involves his texture pack. 05:56 Peacock should be morning over there soon 05:56 LazyJ The problem is spreading water not showing in the 2013_07_23 daily-build when using the Misa texture pack. 05:57 Peacock filenames are probably wrong 05:57 LazyJ I've tested with the default textures... spreading water works. 05:57 Peacock does it show as unknown 05:57 LazyJ Then I replaced Misa's water images with the default images... the problem persisted. 05:58 LazyJ So the default textures work only when Misa isn't used. 05:58 Peacock compared the filenames of water with the one that works then 05:59 kahrl LazyJ: are you sure it is a texture issue, and not just liquids randomly not spreading? 05:59 LazyJ I took 3 screenshots, one of each test 05:59 kahrl LazyJ: try "liquid_loop_max = 10000" in minetest.conf 05:59 LazyJ I'm not sure where the issue is, but where I saw the change was at the base of a waterfall that I built a couple weeks ago. 06:00 RealBadAngel hello minetesters 06:00 RealBadAngel VanessaE, are u here? 06:01 LazyJ That waterfall "spread" as it should Monday, but after I compiled 2013_07_23, the base of the waterfall is gone. 06:01 kahrl water spreading has been flaky for me since the default liquid_loop_max was changed from 10000 to 1000 06:01 LazyJ Howdy, RBA ;) 06:01 kahrl sometimes it spreads, sometimes it doesn't, it's quite random 06:01 LazyJ I noticed that the pixel size of Misa's water images are 4 times or more greater than the default. 06:02 kahrl LazyJ: can you swim in the base of the waterfall that is not shown? 06:02 RealBadAngel LazyJ, try then hdx, haven or sphax water textures 06:02 LazyJ Hehe... yeah, I'm all too acquainted with tall waterfalls spreading in mid-air. 06:02 LazyJ kahrl, yep. the "water" is there at the base when I swim. 06:03 kahrl ok, so it's not the problem I'm thinking of 06:03 LazyJ If this affects Misa, what other higher-res texture packs may be affected, is another concern. 06:05 LazyJ The curious thing is why didn't the water display when I swapped the default_water_flowing/source_animated.png files in Misa with the default ones? 06:06 LazyJ The water *is* spreading, it's just invisible. 06:06 LazyJ Falling water and pooled water display just fine. 06:08 LazyJ I was creating a brook and noticed the grass turning to dirt in the areas where the was overspill. 06:08 LazyJ The outer edges of the dirt nods where light blue. 06:09 LazyJ When I flew into the ground in those areas, the air changed to water. 06:10 kahrl are you playing on a server? 06:10 LazyJ Yeah. The server is 0.4.6 06:10 kahrl oh, I guess the problem then is that the server is not sending liquid_range 06:11 Peacock 0.4.6 doesnt have it i think 06:11 LazyJ Ahk.. the one place I forgot to check is in a singleplayer world. (facepalms). 06:19 LazyJ Ok, just tested this issue in a singleplayer world... still a problem. 06:19 LazyJ I placed water_sources on the ground and the water_source nodes didn't spread. 06:20 LazyJ Then I placed a water_source on a tall stone wall (waterfall simulation). 06:20 LazyJ The water_source node just hung there as a contained block of water. 06:21 LazyJ Next I flew under the suspended water_source expecting to be immersed... didn't happen, just air below it as if it were a non-liquid node. 06:22 LazyJ Then I flew in the ground between the placed water_source nodes... same thing, no water immersion. 06:23 LazyJ The singleplayer wold was created in the 2013_07_23 daily-build of Minetest (compiled from source on Linux). 06:23 LazyJ *world 06:24 kahrl so in this case, the water isn't actually there? 06:24 LazyJ Correct. 06:24 kahrl seems like in this case it's the liquid_loop_max problem I mentioned 06:25 kahrl try it again with liquid_loop_max = 10000 06:25 LazyJ In previously created pools the water is there. In new pools, the water_sources sit there as contained nodes. 06:26 VanessaE ...I warned that changing that value by default wasn't going to work right without changing how the 'buffer' was being populated to start with 06:27 LazyJ Side note: "Item definitions..." take forever to load now. 06:28 LazyJ Just remembered that as I waited for the test world to load. 06:31 LazyJ Ok, liquid_loop_max = 1000 was uncommented and the water_source node placed on the ground pooled somewhat. 06:31 Peacock this problem due to liquid_range thingy that was pushed? 06:32 LazyJ Then I upped the number to 10000... same results. The some of the water_source nodes spread out, some didn't. There are holes in the pool between the water_sources. 06:33 kahrl LazyJ: did you take the sources and place them back? 06:33 kahrl otherwise it might not update them 06:33 LazyJ No, I left the original sources I place earlier in the test 06:35 LazyJ Cleaning up with WE 06:37 LazyJ Hmph... the only time I've been happy to see an area get flooded. :p 06:38 LazyJ Ok, cleaned-up the first test blocks, placed new water_sources in the pool... they spread as they should. 06:38 LazyJ Then I placed another water_source on the stone wall to create the "waterfall". 06:38 LazyJ This time the water_source flowed out and downward. 06:39 LazyJ At the base of the waterfall the spreading water that connects the pooled water and the falling water displayed. 06:39 LazyJ So, now I'll so how this shows up when I connect to our server. 06:40 VanessaE kahrl: I think the issue is the blocks are added to the flowing queue in some sort of chronological order, and when the buffer gets full, instead of being wiped and started over from another spot in the list, it's started over from the beginning. 06:41 VanessaE it should be filled from random places 06:41 VanessaE if that's possible. 06:41 kahrl I have stopped trying to understand how the water spreading works (or doesn't) in this game 06:41 kahrl that's others' expertise ;) 06:41 VanessaE heh 06:42 LazyJ Ok, the problem still persists when I connect to our 0.4.6 server with my 0.4.7 client. 06:42 kahrl LazyJ: yeah, liquid_loop_max is a server setting, changing it in your client doesn't affect the server 06:42 LazyJ My singleplayer worlds are fixed now, just the server is goofy. 06:43 kahrl oh, and it doesn't fix the liquid_range problem of course 06:43 LazyJ Does the liquid_loop work on a server 0.4.6 from 2013_04_12? 06:43 kahrl no 06:44 LazyJ I'm checking to see if I have server rights to edit the minetest.conf file. 06:44 LazyJ Ah, well, nvm then 06:44 Peacock which water though lol finite or regular 06:45 LazyJ Regular water. 06:45 Miner_48er you have the rights to edit it 06:45 LazyJ You're up late, Miner. :)- 06:45 Peacock so theyre both buggy now :/ 06:46 Miner_48er could you alter the client source code to a fixed number? 06:47 LazyJ Too much coffee... brb. 06:48 VanessaE water in, water out? ;) 06:48 Peacock lol 06:48 Peacock if only i had a catheter i could be ever-more efficient :p 06:49 Peacock even better: http://www.rugsandblinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/toilet_sofas.jpg 06:49 VanessaE hehe 06:52 LazyJ Once I discovered the magic of freshly ground beans brewed in a french press, I truly began to enjoy coffee. 06:52 Peacock i grind mine too, but no french press (it surrendered) 06:52 VanessaE lol 06:53 LazyJ Ever try a Moka pot? 06:53 Peacock coffee flavoured cannabis? 06:53 LazyJ No, a stove-top espresso maker. 06:53 Peacock oh no 06:53 Peacock wife, burning things, fires 06:54 LazyJ To the aficionados it doesn't make a "true" espresso. 06:54 LazyJ But for poor folk like me, it does a real good job of making high-powered coffee on the cheap. 06:54 LazyJ Well, relatively cheap. 06:55 LazyJ A "true" espresso machine costs over a thousand dollars (cough, sputter, wheeze). 06:55 Peacock oh i know 06:55 Peacock i broke one working as barista lol 06:55 LazyJ An Italian made, Bialetti Moka pot $40 or so. 06:56 LazyJ I splurged and paid $60 for a stainless still pot. 06:56 LazyJ But my little, one-cup French press is the brewing method of choice. 06:56 Peacock i have a collection of coffee machines i've been meaning to fix lol 06:57 LazyJ Easier, less prep, different coffees with each cup. 06:57 Peacock im OCD they all have to taste the same and just so lol 06:57 Peacock i can even tell when the brewery is due to clean their tanks lol 06:58 LazyJ Yeah, clean machines are *usually* best... but the Moka pot is a little different. 06:58 LazyJ It's like a cast iron skillet... needs to be "seasoned" first before using. 06:59 Peacock i know about that, Niles gets his crepe pans reseasoned every so often lol 06:59 LazyJ It's recommended to brew 3 or 4 pots to build up the oils on the inside. 06:59 Peacock im guessing you can stand the taste of the ground canned coffee either then :P 06:59 Peacock *can't 07:00 LazyJ I use an aluminum Moka pot at work. Seasoning isn't so necessary for the stainless steel pot. 07:00 LazyJ Well, cheap, pre-ground, canned coffee is caffeine when you need it. 07:01 LazyJ I work 12hr graveyard shifts so caffeine first, taste second. 07:01 Peacock i cant do that anymore 07:01 LazyJ But I've learned to achieve both. ;) 07:01 VanessaE just go to thinkgeek. they have caffeine in every form imaginable :) 07:01 Peacock ive gone up to 80hr weeks and more, then burnout lol 07:01 VanessaE (soap, gum, various kinds of drinks, and a few other things, I think) 07:01 Peacock it gets to a point where you add all the hours in a week to figure just how much you can sleep lol 07:02 LazyJ Oh, yeah, VanessaE, I've seen a few of those. :) 07:02 LazyJ Soap may be going a bit far, even for me. :D 07:02 LazyJ Coffee scented soap, that is. I do bathe. 07:02 VanessaE nono 07:02 VanessaE this is caffeinated soap 07:03 LazyJ Oh, well in that case, who needs a whirlpool tub. :)- 07:04 hoodedice yo 07:05 LazyJ Even cheap, pre-ground, store-brand, canned coffee can be improved when brewed in a French press with a pinch of salt. 07:05 hoodedice The init.lua in this mod doesn't work. 07:05 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4779 07:05 hoodedice I tried all the usual suspects 07:05 hoodedice mod folder name 07:06 hoodedice etc 07:07 Peacock wat is error 07:07 LazyJ I almost flunked chemistry class. 07:07 LazyJ I'll step away and leave this to the professionals. ;) 07:08 hoodedice Failed to load and run blah blah directory\mods\chemistry 07:08 Peacock yeah but line number 07:08 hoodedice I THINK I mgiht be using PIlzAdam's windoze builds 07:08 hoodedice line number? 07:09 Peacock i neeed the part of error that gives line number and filename 07:10 hoodedice file name is init.lua 07:11 Peacock jesus christ 16 dofiles lol 07:11 hoodedice yeah lol 07:11 hoodedice It's a chem mod after all :P 07:11 hoodedice There should've been more than that ! 07:11 Peacock yeah but its hard to track down which file 07:11 hoodedice I guessed that 07:11 hoodedice So You start from the top 07:12 hoodedice I'll check from the bottom 07:13 Peacock edited 5 days ago: acetylene_burner_recipes.lua, air_collector.lua,crafts.lua 07:13 Peacock distiller.lua 07:13 Peacock id start with the latest edits and work your way backwards 07:13 Peacock i can't look at allll those files 07:13 Peacock dozing off as it is lol 07:13 hoodedice Wow 07:13 hoodedice I'm still new to git, so thanks for the up :) 07:13 Peacock https://github.com/m97/chemistry <- says when the files were edited 07:14 hoodedice I saw that after you pointed it out :) 07:14 hoodedice I cloned the file in any case 07:15 Peacock if it wont even start, its prolly tiny syntax error somewhere 07:15 Peacock missing }) or quote, 07:15 hoodedice Run it through some debugger? 07:15 hoodedice Using this thing called Decoda atm 07:17 Peacock line 42-43 perhaps? https://github.com/m97/chemistry/blob/d7c7ae1a7a1276ed8fbbd4236e98ce1165951047/air_collector.lua 07:17 Peacock could be my tiredness, but it looks off to me 07:17 Peacock naw its fine 07:17 * Peacock keeps looking 07:18 Peacock didnt even give the right line number lol 07:18 Peacock fuck it ill dl and try it out lol 07:18 hoodedice I got this error in debug 07:19 hoodedice An exception has been caught: ...0003fc8-vmanip-win32\bin\..\mods\chemistry/distiller.lua:207: attempt to call field 'register_LV_machine' (a nil value) 07:19 Peacock ahhh 07:19 Peacock you got technic? 07:19 hoodedice So This LV machine is not defined I guess 07:19 hoodedice Yes 07:20 Peacock is your tecnic older than chemistry (like much older?) 07:20 hoodedice Could be 07:20 hoodedice I'll update it and get back 07:21 hoodedice Listen. Is it better to clone or stable download? 07:21 Peacock github is like polish to me lol 07:21 Peacock just look for the download button :p 07:21 hoodedice polish? 07:22 Peacock i know it keeps moving 07:22 hoodedice o k 07:22 hoodedice Yeah. 07:22 Peacock cant use github, its like programming an old VCR lol 07:22 hoodedice haha 07:23 hoodedice Do I have to update all dependencies as well? 07:23 Peacock well start with just technic and see if it works after 07:23 hoodedice ok 07:24 hoodedice Dun cha 07:24 hoodedice Works 07:24 Peacock wow i couldn't test this if i wanted to, chemistry deps on technic, technic deps on mesecons and a few other big mods lol 07:24 hoodedice Thanks a lot :) 07:24 Peacock no prob 07:25 hoodedice Yeah, I wish mod organisation was in the main game 07:25 hoodedice Something called 'auto-update' feature 07:25 Peacock theyre working on a mod manager 07:25 hoodedice Yaaay 07:25 Peacock im not crazy about it but im just used to oldschool way of unzipping folders lol 07:26 hoodedice But checking for new versions is tedious 07:26 hoodedice And mass unzipping can be a pain in the donkey 07:27 Peacock true 07:27 Peacock thats why i dont go for chain dependencies 07:27 Peacock i like mods to work on their own 07:27 Peacock and i hate having to install mods i dont want to play the ones i do want lol 07:27 hoodedice Lol 07:27 hoodedice I hate inventory++ 07:28 Peacock so i usually just end up forking 07:28 hoodedice I like the worldedit one better 07:28 Peacock worldedit isn't an inventory tho 07:28 hoodedice I get one when I use it 07:28 hoodedice :/ 07:28 Peacock bizarre 07:28 Peacock musta been outta the loop on that one lol 07:29 hoodedice indeed. I was pleasantly surprised on that one. It has a useful search feature 07:29 VanessaE bbl 07:29 Peacock well all the inventories are based on cornernotes' that had the search 07:29 Peacock even mine is a fork of a fork lol 07:30 hoodedice In any case, I'm a noob dev 07:31 hoodedice This is the first time I'm actually trying to make a mod, or write a .lua script at that 07:31 hoodedice So, I don't think I'm ready to handle forks atm 07:31 Peacock youd be surprised how many mods are derivs :p 07:31 Peacock or combos 07:32 hoodedice I won't be 07:32 hoodedice That's what we call open-source :P 07:32 hoodedice Ubuntu --> Xubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, 07:33 Peacock yeah its insane lol 07:33 hoodedice If a damn OS can have 5 or more official rip-offs 07:33 hoodedice (and hundreds of unofficial ones) 07:33 hoodedice What are mods then? 07:34 Peacock some are rewrites, some are originals, some are derivs, some are combos :p 07:34 hoodedice And some are failures :P 07:34 hoodedice most are failures :P 07:34 Peacock and some are so bloody siimilar you sit there going "wtf" lol 07:34 Peacock right now people are going crazy with instant buildings lol 07:35 hoodedice The chemistry mod itself has around two (or more) forks 07:35 Peacock you talking github forks or formal entries on the forum? 07:35 Peacock cuz plenty of stuff gets "forked" without anything happening on github 07:35 hoodedice The one I'm using is older, but this guy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6616 made another one 07:35 hoodedice Forum 07:36 Peacock theres nothing there lol 07:36 Peacock code's empty, forum post is placeholder 07:36 hoodedice wut? 07:36 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6616 07:37 JesseH I would get into modding if I had a server to play on :P 07:37 hoodedice You do 07:37 hoodedice Use the singleplayer mode :P 07:37 JesseH not until I finish building this 07:37 hoodedice And 'This' is? 07:37 JesseH hoodedice, singleplayer is for testing mods :P 07:37 JesseH minetest 07:37 JesseH I thought that part was obvious 07:37 Peacock i test mods on server :p 07:37 hoodedice Wow. You're actually building minetest 07:37 JesseH O_o 07:38 Peacock hard to tell if you can get rid of griefers without testing shit on them lol 07:38 JesseH Why wouldnt i? 07:38 hoodedice Well, I'm lazy 07:38 hoodedice I prefer pre-built ones 07:38 JesseH Peacock, I want to get cool with a owner of a host that has a few people that come daily, so I can see my mods being used :P 07:38 hoodedice And I'm on windows atm :P 07:38 Peacock best way is to start your own server :p 07:39 Peacock otherwise its your mods + 100 others lol 07:39 JesseH but it would be local and I could be alone :( 07:39 JesseH You have a point 07:39 Peacock so the testing phase could take a long time 07:39 JesseH I don't really have any money to get it hosted, either 07:39 * JesseH forever alone 07:39 Peacock and server admins might not report every bug to you 07:39 Peacock well, small server dont need hosting 07:40 Peacock just make sure bandwidth aint capped at home 07:40 JesseH I have pretty bad internet. 07:42 JesseH Peacock, Do you host your server? 07:43 Peacock yeah tho not 24/7 07:43 JesseH lemme on :D 07:43 Peacock only when i can keep an eye on people 07:43 Peacock depends are you already banned? if not you should see it 07:43 JesseH and give me ssh access >:) 07:43 Peacock 3 days and already 30+ bans lol 07:44 hoodedice ssh? 07:44 Peacock SSH = Sweet Sweet Honey 07:44 Peacock ill require 30 pieces of silver for that 07:44 Peacock j/k 07:45 hoodedice lol 07:46 hoodedice Now where is that API...... 07:46 hoodedice Eureka 07:46 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 07:46 Peacock speedial lol 07:46 hoodedice What is THAT? 07:46 Peacock all the api functions 07:46 JesseH Is restarting a server needed to upload mods? 07:47 hoodedice oooh, looks sweeter than the wiki 07:47 hoodedice Thanks :) 07:47 Peacock well if you install new mods while its running, yeah restart 07:47 JesseH I want to see how minetest handles all that, and see if you can reload modules 07:47 Peacock the wiki is woefully inadequate lol 07:47 hoodedice Say, did anyone make a readable book mod yet? 07:48 Peacock tinoshreo (whatever) made a book mod methinks 07:48 JesseH Because with my LOVE games, I had it so that modules would be reloaded with a press of a button, so that I never had to restart the game to see the changes 07:48 Peacock well you cant register nodes on the run methinks 07:48 hoodedice YOu use Love2d. Cool. 07:49 hoodedice What about LuaJIT? Wont that register stuff as you need it? 07:49 Peacock besides dynamic mod loading would prolly be abused like a priest abuses a choir boy 07:50 JesseH Basically, add this at the top of your scripts "module(..., package.seeall)" and to reload them you can do something like this http://hastebin.com/yagopuwihe.lua 07:51 JesseH lines 5 and 6 are what matter 07:51 JesseH That was a block of code from my irc bot 07:52 Peacock minetest mod ircbot or just ircbot? 07:52 JesseH Just an irc bot 07:53 Peacock i often wonder about some people on here lol 07:53 JesseH I want to play around with speech recognition soon, and will likely use Minetest to fudge around 07:54 Peacock minetest dont have voice tho 07:54 JesseH I will use the speech recognition software to handle the voice commands I give it 07:54 JesseH It will do something, that will effect something in game 07:54 JesseH I just haven't figured out what yet. 07:55 JesseH or how I will do it 07:55 JesseH but if I can get reloading working, then I will know how 07:55 JesseH and will do some cool shit : 07:55 JesseH :D 07:55 JesseH I think I'm going to start playing around with that now actually. 08:00 Peacock im too tired to work on shielsds tonight lol 08:01 JesseH I'm trying to fix all these damn broken packages...fucking ubuntu <__________________> 08:01 PenguinDad Peacock: In Germany it's 10 AM. 08:01 Peacock i hit the sack at 8am (GMT-5) and woke at 15hrs lol 08:02 Peacock now its 4am the next day lol 08:02 Peacock im all off 08:02 Peacock *thrown off 08:02 Peacock and the cat thinks its party time :( lol 08:06 hoodedice I found the books mod 08:06 hoodedice I wanted to take a look at the original PilzAdam version 08:06 hoodedice But THANK YOU omdlr 08:06 hoodedice ompdlr 08:07 hoodedice Got it 08:09 hoodedice Going ciao 08:11 Peacock But THANK YOU omdlr 08:11 Peacock ompldr? its dead Jim 08:11 Peacock off to sleep as well lol 08:27 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Louise Brown Day! :-D 08:28 PenguinDad |-|; 08:31 kahrl I thought it was Ebernoe Horn Day 08:31 kahrl everyone should play cricket today 08:33 JamesTait kahrl, I think it's that too, yes. :) 08:33 JesseH I am about to make a sandwich, in memory of louise who gives a fuck brown :P 08:33 PenguinDad kahrl: But I don't know how to play cricket :P 10:18 MasterBot hi 10:26 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:27 MasterBot Hello superkabel! 10:27 MasterBot everythings fucked 10:28 MasterBot I want ot install minetest but... 10:28 MasterBot I have updated to Lubuntu 13.04, BIG MISTAKE 10:28 MasterBot So now i need to install dependencied 10:29 MasterBot and change this RETARDED font 10:29 MasterBot Help Please! 10:32 JesseH MasterBot, Hello, what? 10:33 JesseH Why don't you go to the lubuntu channel? 10:33 JesseH used to be active in there 10:33 JesseH <_> 10:33 MasterBot Because its to do with minetest installation and customization 10:33 MasterBot and im banned from there 10:33 MasterBot afaik 10:33 JesseH Ah 10:33 JesseH Wtf why? They dont even talk there <_> 10:34 MasterBot E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? ARRGGGH 10:34 MasterBot This happened last time aswell and i just installed 150MB to stop it happening 10:34 JesseH That's a classic ubuntu problem :P 10:34 JesseH MasterBot, Also, most problems can be answered in #ubuntu 10:34 JesseH Lubuntu is again, just ubuntu with lxde 10:35 MasterBot ...Banned! 10:35 MasterBot ..or not! 10:35 JesseH MasterBot, I forgot exactly how to fix that issue, youll have to remove the lock yourself, or close something 10:35 MasterBot lol thats other nick 10:35 JesseH MasterBot, try closing ubuntu software center? :P 10:35 MasterBot E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ 10:36 PilzAdam MasterBot, your problems are not related to Minetest, thus they dont belong in this channel 10:36 MasterBot Uh oh, i see where this is going 10:36 JesseH Harsh :P 10:36 JesseH MasterBot, calm it :P 10:36 MasterBot They are because im installing dependencies 10:36 MasterBot Im just not pasting all of it 10:37 JesseH >_> 10:38 MasterBot https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3722 10:38 MasterBot Very old 10:38 MasterBot But worked last time 10:59 Zeg9 RealBadAngel: what's the license for HavenTP ? Would you mind if I add the water textures (downscaled to 32x) to mt-faithful? 11:00 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Show portnumber for ip adresses only 215e37aac3 2013-07-25T03:58:14-07:00 http://git.io/8WM0Ww 11:24 DanDuncombe Who likes the 'Virologist' skin in the zombies gaem? I found it online on the Mc Skindex and thought it was apt... 11:24 DanDuncombe *game 11:37 DanDuncombe Funny error when trying to make new zombie mob :) http://s10.postimg.org/4ximuftzt/screenshot_11106133.png 11:37 Zeg9 hehe 11:38 Zeg9 Maybe that's why there is a "giant" in minecraft 11:38 DanDuncombe I need to makehim smalller... 11:42 DanDuncombe Fail No.2 http://s23.postimg.org/8i23oazqj/screenshot_11413384.png 11:43 DanDuncombe How do I stop it being buried in the ground like that? 11:47 DanDuncombe Jordach?Can you help me stop him being stuck in the ground? http://s23.postimg.org/8i23oazqj/screenshot_11413384.png 11:47 DanDuncombe He always walks throught the ground like that. 11:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, spawn them y+1 11:47 DanDuncombe They fall through the floor though 11:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, hmm 11:48 Jordach i've played with simple mobs before 11:48 Jordach my own mobs never fell through 11:48 DanDuncombe I am trying to make the zombie mod zombies like a zombie Sam. 11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, sent you a pm 11:49 DanDuncombe I saw 11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, can you zip your latest code? 11:49 Jordach or is it on github 11:49 Jordach or somewhere 11:49 Zeg9 DanDuncombe: your collision box is probably too high 11:49 DanDuncombe I will dropbox it- will just be a moment 11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, thanks 12:53 MasterBot Hi 12:54 DanDuncombe HI 12:54 JesseH HI 12:54 MasterBot HI then 12:54 MasterBot Back on windows :( 12:55 MasterBot lol got wrong linux system 13:02 DanDuncombe Small zombie http://s21.postimg.org/vipu903yf/screenshot_16079941.png 13:02 DanDuncombe ~150 nodes high, there are about 10 stuck together 13:04 MasterBot How's your FPS? 13:04 MasterBot Uh-oh 13:04 MasterBot 50sec 13:04 MasterBot to get OS 13:04 * MasterBot hides 13:04 MasterBot 10! 13:05 DanDuncombe They kind of bundled together 13:05 MasterBot well shit 13:05 DanDuncombe What? 13:06 MasterBot WHY DOES THE INSTALL CRASH AT THE LAST MOMENT!!? 13:06 DanDuncombe I was getting around 4-5 fps by the way. 13:06 MasterBot Lol thats not good 13:06 MasterBot Try one entity 13:06 MasterBot Or try a small entity ~1 block 13:06 DanDuncombe Yep 13:06 MasterBot Or a hypothtical entity 13:07 MasterBot You cant see it, but its not there but hurts you 13:07 DanDuncombe Also, your install crashed because they are specifically engineered to annoy even the calmest person. 13:07 MasterBot Compliment? 13:07 MasterBot I am not calm!!! 13:08 * MasterBot throws his pen out the window 13:08 DanDuncombe Also, can someone come on VanessaE'sserver and tell me if my skin is working? 13:08 MasterBot Join it on another client 13:08 MasterBot You know better than anyone else 13:09 MasterBot Not as an insult, but if you want something done, do it your self. You will not neccesarily no it better but at least you will get it done to your satisfaction 13:09 DanDuncombe Okay 13:09 DanDuncombe I forgot I can have 2 windows 13:09 MasterBot These are the only wise words i know 13:10 DanDuncombe I logged on as... Nim! 13:10 MasterBot do screenshot :) 13:12 MasterBot What SMALL OSes can run minetest? 13:12 MasterBot i am talking about <1 GB 13:12 DanDuncombe I don't know if it runs it but Linux Tinycore can be smaller than 5mb 13:13 MasterBot I am saying this not because i have a crappy PC but because i want to carry my OS with me :) 13:13 DanDuncombe Tinycore can be portable install on a USB stick. 13:14 DanDuncombe http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/6eop.jpg/ Lol 13:14 MasterBot PilzAdam 13:15 MasterBot You forgot your irritating greeting 13:16 MasterBot Il need to reboot my PC to use this 13:16 MasterBot What is the Device called if i boot it from an SD card? 13:16 DanDuncombe My favourite Mt/Mc skin (A virologist): http://s10.postimg.org/qi2kqu3kp/screenshot_17031339.png http://s23.postimg.org/wmsafy2y3/screenshot_17045710.png 13:17 MasterBot I am going to have my os on a 32MB SD Card 13:17 DanDuncombe You can see the lava griefing in the backgrounf 13:17 MasterBot Anything less than 8MB :P 13:17 MasterBot ? 13:18 MasterBot Thats not leaves?! 13:18 MasterBot Oo thats steep: 9HR install Lubuntu 13:18 MasterBot okay 3 13:18 DanDuncombe Someone griefed V's server- hence all the orange lava at the left of second pic 13:19 DanDuncombe Can someone try the current version of zombie game? See if you can find a buried Industry TM crate... 13:20 MasterBot I cant 13:20 MasterBot Until i get a non-retarded OS 13:20 MasterBot [POLL] what OS do you use? 13:20 DanDuncombe Industry TM used to be like But 'n' Large in Wall-E , until the apocalypse came... 13:21 DanDuncombe *Buy 'n' Large 13:21 MasterBot I have a question! 13:21 DanDuncombe Wht is it? 13:21 MasterBot Do i put [BOOT] file in the root of my bootable disk? 13:21 MasterBot *folder 13:21 DanDuncombe Dunno 13:21 PilzAdam MasterBot, stop being constantly offtopic 13:21 DanDuncombe What would it be like if I did time speed 230? 13:23 MasterBot http://pastebin.com/JbaEf0Ue 13:24 MasterBot Good for a minetest server? 13:24 PilzAdam !op 13:24 DanDuncombe Time speed 1000.WOW! 13:24 MasterBot It lags in transition 13:24 MasterBot Also notice a small bog 13:24 MasterBot *bug 13:25 MasterBot Watch the sun move, it glitches sometimes 13:25 MasterBot Well, quite a lot iirc 13:25 DanDuncombe Yeah. 13:25 DanDuncombe It 'jumps' 13:25 MasterBot Now to dig out that old memory stick... 13:27 DanDuncombe Okay,now for the Big Test. Time speed 1,000,000 13:27 DanDuncombe WOW! You have to try that! 13:29 MasterBot oh shit, crashed yet? 13:29 DanDuncombe Nope. 13:29 DanDuncombe It's a little tripp though. 13:29 MasterBot linux? 13:30 DanDuncombe *trippy 13:30 MasterBot terminal>>lscpu 13:30 DanDuncombe Nope. Windows starter on a netbook 13:30 MasterBot ah 13:30 MasterBot same1 13:30 MasterBot ! 13:30 MasterBot 7? 13:30 DanDuncombe & 13:30 DanDuncombe 7 13:31 DanDuncombe Hint:When writing numbers, don'tpress shift. 13:31 MasterBot 1.6GHz Intel core proccesor 1GB ram 13:31 MasterBot yah, i got same symbol there aswell 13:31 DanDuncombe I have... 13:31 DanDuncombe 1.6 Ghz Intel atom, 2gb ram 13:31 MasterBot dammit lol 13:32 MasterBot Samsung? 13:32 DanDuncombe Smasung indeed] 13:32 MasterBot then can i ask; 13:32 DanDuncombe *Samsung 13:32 MasterBot How you have HD textures 13:32 DanDuncombe I am currently using V's 64 pixel HDX pack, yes 13:33 DanDuncombe I only get around 10fps sometimes, though 13:33 MasterBot What a waste 13:33 MasterBot get linux and get 20 fps at the minimum 13:34 DanDuncombe My netbook number (on label underneath) is: N145-JPO3 13:34 DanDuncombe I have dual boot with Kubuntu already 13:34 Calinou MasterBot: linux drivers are usually slower 13:34 DanDuncombe NEVER USE UBUNTU RARING! 13:34 Calinou and this is even worse if you use desktop effects 13:34 Calinou DanDuncombe: why? 13:34 Calinou works for me 13:35 Calinou the best version is always the best, contrary to what the haters might say 13:35 DanDuncombe Also, Kubuntu normally takes me up to around 80 celsius, when idle. 13:35 MasterBot NC110 13:35 MasterBot on the back 13:35 DanDuncombe You have Nyan Cat number 110.Congratulations! 13:36 Calinou Also, Kubuntu normally takes me up to around 80 celsius, when idle. 13:36 MasterBot Reboot to finish installation 13:36 Calinou tip of the day: don't use the radeon driver on laptops 13:36 Calinou or if you do, use 3.11 + DPM :P 13:36 DanDuncombe I have the NP-N145 Plus netbook, with red edge trimming on a back case. 13:37 DanDuncombe I like it, because, when it freezes you can just undo the clips at the back, and pull out the battery. 13:38 Calinou you don't do that 13:38 DanDuncombe I now have a corrupted hard drive. 13:38 Calinou you can just press power button for 5 seconds, or use Alt+SysRq+REISUB 13:38 DanDuncombe That often won't work. 13:39 DanDuncombe Battery is quicker and easier. 13:39 DanDuncombe And worse for the com's health. 13:39 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, do you hit yourself with a hammer into the face when you want to sleep? 13:39 DanDuncombe No, I lie in bed. 13:39 PilzAdam then why do you do that with your laptop? 13:40 DanDuncombe Because it is quick. 13:40 Calinou lol PilzAdam 13:40 DanDuncombe It has only ever had a corrupted disk which is now fine. 13:40 Calinou I don't know anyone who is able to remove a battery in less than 5 seconds 13:40 Calinou fine? 13:40 Calinou never had a corrupted disk in ~15 years and I wouldn't like that 13:40 DanDuncombe I can... Just slide the clips and POP! It'sout 13:41 DanDuncombe What is MinetestBot for? 13:41 PilzAdam how do you shutdown your iPhone then? ;-) 13:41 DanDuncombe I hold the power button 13:41 DanDuncombe I can't just lever the back off my iphone. 13:42 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6696 Can someone test? 13:42 DanDuncombe Jordach is working on cooler zombies. 13:42 DanDuncombe He is da blender merster. 13:43 DanDuncombe I should probably stop posting so much on IRC 13:43 DanDuncombe Otherwise I'll be kicked for spam 13:43 DanDuncombe Oh well 13:43 PenguinDad !title 13:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: [Game] Zombie Survival [1.1] [zombies] (Page 1) — Minetest Games — Minetest Forums 13:44 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: you can use MinetestBot for that. 13:44 DanDuncombe To show what urls linkto? 13:44 PilzAdam !help 13:44 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 13:44 DanDuncombe lol 13:45 PilzAdam just dont abuse the bot in the channel, you can use /msg too 13:45 DanDuncombe !ignore PilzAdam 13:45 DanDuncombe !unignore PilzAdam 13:45 PilzAdam ignnore is broken 13:45 PilzAdam also you are not an admin 13:45 PilzAdam sfan5, have you fixed !ignore yet? 13:46 DanDuncombe I am sure someone will make me an admin soon :) 13:46 DanDuncombe Muhahahahhahahahhaha 13:46 DanDuncombe Can someone test the game? 13:46 DanDuncombe Please? 13:47 DanDuncombe Also, can someone make dark industrial textures for everything, like this Mc texture pack? www.minecraftmine.org/last-days-texture-pack/ 13:48 DanDuncombe If I am kicked for spam can I log back on, or is there a 'cooldown' period? 13:49 DanDuncombe Spam 13:49 DanDuncombe Spam 13:49 DanDuncombe Spam 13:49 DanDuncombe Spam 13:49 PilzAdam !mute DanDuncombe 13:51 DanielDuncombe Am I still blocked? 13:51 PilzAdam !unmute DanDuncombe 13:52 DanDuncombe Now there are two of me. 13:52 DanielDuncombe Spam 13:52 DanielDuncombe Woops 13:53 DanDuncombe I don't try to be annoying,I am just a little hyperactive and fidgety. 13:53 DanDuncombe And just a littleis indeed the correct terminology 13:54 DanDuncombe Would this make a good zombie survival map? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6642 13:54 DanDuncombe ! 13:54 DanDuncombe What is the 'show the url'command? 13:54 DanDuncombe !MinetestBot 13:55 Calinou !title 13:55 MinetestBot Calinou: Karsthafen (a city project) (Page 1) — Maps — Minetest Forums 13:55 DanDuncombe Oh 13:55 Calinou "title or gtfo" --4chan 13:55 * Calinou runs 13:55 DanDuncombe !gtfo 13:55 DanDuncombe Doh. 13:55 DanDuncombe I am now officially gullible. 13:56 DanDuncombe Does anyone here play The Powder Toy? 13:56 PilzAdam !mute *!*@*85.210.142.106* 13:56 * Calinou brohooves PilzAdam 13:57 PilzAdam /)(\ 14:15 Jordach !unmute *!*@*85.210.142.106* 14:58 DanDuncombe Am I unbanned yet? 14:58 Jordach DanDuncombe, ye 14:58 Jordach yes 14:58 Jordach !unmute *!*@*85.210.142.106* 14:58 Jordach * MinetestBot removes quiet on *!*@*85.210.142.106* 14:58 Jordach i did it 14:59 DanDuncombe Good. 14:59 Peacock why would dan be banned? 14:59 DanDuncombe Thanks :) 14:59 DanDuncombe I was talking to much 14:59 DanDuncombe *too 14:59 PilzAdam Peacock, he wasnt banned 14:59 Peacock talking too much? lol but this channel is dead most of the time :p 14:59 Peacock at least during EST hours 15:00 DanDuncombe There were bunches of around 10 posts,all by me 15:00 Peacock ah, forum ban? 15:01 DanDuncombe Jordach, when you finish the zombie .x, could you do a forum pm? Also, you have 2 weeks at least to do it, because I am holidaying, for two weeks, tomorrow. PilzAdam is probably greatful. 15:01 Peacock 4 days ago it was 43c, last night was more like 10c, caught a cold lol 15:02 DanDuncombe Does anyone have mod suggestions for zombie game? 15:03 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:03 DanDuncombe Hi 15:04 Peacock howdy 15:07 Peacock happy Threading the Needle Day 15:16 Jordach DanDuncombe, walking and standing anim done 15:16 Jordach just got to do some finishing touches 15:17 Jordach okay, finishing touches done 15:17 Jordach DanDuncombe, is there a "attacking" position, or they just chase and do damage in range 15:18 Jordach like the dirt monster 15:18 * Jordach sighs 15:20 DanDuncombe Hopefully he should have an 'arms out' zombie tear-your-brain-out pose when attacking. 15:21 DanDuncombe They work like sand monsters I think 15:21 DanDuncombe The original did anyway. 15:22 Jordach DanDuncombe, drawing a skin 15:22 DanDuncombe Okay, thanks 15:23 Jordach i'm using the player model :P 15:23 DanDuncombe A zombie player is brilliant :) 15:23 Jordach DanDuncombe, it's based from Sam II 15:23 DanDuncombe That's fine :) 15:23 Jordach ....and gimp looks like it crashed again, but it isnt 15:23 Jordach loading... | Fonts this may take a while 15:24 Jordach there we go 15:24 DanDuncombe pm'ed? 15:26 DanDuncombe BTW, Jordach. You are the best at this, y'know :) 15:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, the zombie model has two states, walking and standing 15:31 DanDuncombe Okay! We shall see what happens, I gues 15:31 DanDuncombe *guess 15:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/T9OWYpS.png 15:33 DanDuncombe Lovely:) 15:33 rubenwardy nice jordach 15:34 rubenwardy maybe some blood/gore? :P 15:34 DanDuncombe Yes 15:34 DanDuncombe Maybe white eyes to 15:34 DanDuncombe Pure white,like Herbrine 15:34 DanDuncombe *Herobrine 15:35 DanDuncombe Also, where did you get that skin maker? 15:35 Jordach model is exported with the original blend file 15:35 Jordach now uploadinhg 15:35 DanDuncombe Thanks. 15:35 Jordach uploading* 15:36 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/bifmuyqr9b8uugg/zombie.zip 15:36 Jordach a literal name 15:36 * Jordach hasnt tested the mesh in-game 15:36 * DanDuncombe will try it now 15:36 Jordach model + texture is cc-by-nc-sa 15:37 Jordach - -nc 15:37 DanDuncombe Where is the texture? 15:37 Jordach i knew i forgot something 15:39 DanDuncombe Typical. I tried to test it and couldn't find a damn zombie anywhere. 15:39 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/z1uxjmM.png 15:39 Jordach just right click and save as 15:39 * Jordach has realised there is no hat layer on the model 15:40 Jordach cant get everything right 15:41 Jordach DanDuncombe, better? 15:42 DanDuncombe Still can't find a zombie... 15:42 Jordach frames 0 - 80 is standing 15:42 Jordach frames 81 - 121 are moving / walking 15:42 Jordach (thought you might need that info) 15:42 Jordach DanDuncombe, /spawnentity mobs:zombie ? 15:43 Jordach ? being there for is it the right entity name 15:43 DanDuncombe I'll try 15:43 DanDuncombe Okay... The zombie is invisible. 15:45 Jordach DanDuncombe, i didn't uncheck export all selected OBJECTS 15:45 Jordach i probably had the wrong thing checked 15:45 DanDuncombe Okay 15:46 DanDuncombe The spooky thing was, I could still hear it walking around... 15:47 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/sgnhcebyu06b14l/zombie.x 15:47 Jordach try that one 15:47 DanDuncombe Thanks.Should zombies drop anything, do you think? 15:47 Jordach rotten flesh? 15:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, i'll keep exporting until it WORKS 15:47 Jordach as i have all day 15:48 * Jordach suspects DanDuncombe is a brit 15:48 DanDuncombe I AM eNGLISH 15:48 Jordach WHOO! 15:48 DanDuncombe Woops, capslock XD 15:48 Jordach 26 celcius outside of Aylsham 15:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, any update on the model working 15:49 DanDuncombe Still invisible 15:49 Jordach weird 15:49 DanDuncombe 24 celsius in Cranbrook 15:50 Jordach is the texture named zombie.png 15:50 khor 37 celsius in agen 15:50 DanDuncombe Jordach: When I downloaded the second one, it seemed to be a text file with the extension .x 15:50 Jordach DanDuncombe, thats the raw model format 15:51 DanDuncombe Okay 15:51 Jordach model format for minetest is .x 15:51 Jordach so zombie.x in the mobs:zombie def is needed 15:51 DanDuncombe 'Could not load mesh' 15:51 Jordach provided the model is in /mobs/models/zombie.x 15:51 DanDuncombe 'mobs_zombie.x' 15:51 Jordach DanDuncombe, there you go 15:51 Jordach rename the zombie.x to mobs_zombie.x 15:51 DanDuncombe It was there, just couldn't load it. 15:52 Jordach DanDuncombe, it does that with the player model afaik 15:52 DanDuncombe Yeah! WOO! 15:52 MasterBot Hi 15:52 Jordach it works with the frames i told you to use 15:52 MasterBot Using TinyCoreLinux 15:52 MasterBot But no [AT] or [HASH] symbol 15:52 Jordach also: screenshot it 15:53 * Jordach wants evidence 15:53 DanDuncombe Okay... 15:53 MasterBot reckon i can get minetest running here? 15:53 Jordach MasterBot, thats the point of open source 15:53 Jordach as it should run on anything with patience 15:53 MasterBot Patience? 15:53 Jordach but i'd stick with windows and then install mint or something 15:53 * Jordach likes Linux Mint 15 15:54 MasterBot This was just a test 15:54 MasterBot And it passed! 15:54 MasterBot and now i can carry my os around with me!!! 15:55 DanDuncombe His arms are huge 15:55 DanDuncombe http://s17.postimg.org/8ezpq5q0v/screenshot_26597101.png 15:55 Jordach emh 15:56 Jordach DanDuncombe, the scale in my blender is 1.0 for all frames 15:56 DanDuncombe Okay 15:56 DanDuncombe He looks cool with huge arms tough 15:56 DanDuncombe He mutated 15:56 Jordach DanDuncombe, i think i worked it out 15:57 DanDuncombe MM? 15:57 Jordach I might have done Export skin weights 15:58 Jordach as well as bones 15:58 DanDuncombe He has no animation 15:58 * Jordach uploads a fix 15:58 DanDuncombe He just skides around 15:58 DanDuncombe *slides 15:58 Jordach DanDuncombe, frames 0-80 is standing around 15:58 Jordach frames 81-121 is walking / chasing 15:58 MasterBot Python works! 15:58 DanDuncombe Okay. Will change. 15:58 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/68cb378mmhtiwo2/mobs_zombie.x <- try 15:59 Jordach once you've added the frame ranges 15:59 MasterBot How do i change resolution from terminal? 15:59 MasterBot I dont have xrandr though 15:59 Jordach (that MIGHT BE WHY the arms are huge) 16:00 MasterBot Ima reboot to openbox 16:02 DanDuncombe The armswork now. 16:02 Jordach there we go, the mobs_zombie.x is unneeded 16:02 Jordach DanDuncombe, screenshots! 16:03 DanDuncombe Be a moment 16:03 Jordach okay :D 16:04 * Jordach might also make some zombie sounds 16:04 * Jordach has a mic for that 16:06 DanDuncombe Still no animations. But here is a screeny. I have set the animations for the right frames,so don't know what the prblem is. http://s11.postimg.org/yre19k5rn/screenshot_27255274.png 16:07 DanDuncombe He just slides around like that. 16:07 Jordach DanDuncombe, show me the code for the zombie 16:07 Jordach (zip up your latest) 16:07 DanDuncombe All of it? Can I pastebin it? 16:07 Jordach i want the entire game dir 16:07 DanDuncombe So... the whole mod? 16:08 Jordach i could probably find the bug in a min 16:08 Jordach DanDuncombe, yes 16:08 DanDuncombe https://www.dropbox.com/s/13dbqxc1mc7shmu/zombie.zip 16:10 Jordach DanDuncombe, i meant the game mode 16:10 DanDuncombe Ok, will just be a moment updating github. 16:10 Jordach sweet 16:12 Jordach http://paste.viewskew.com/index.php/view/57285798 16:12 Jordach fixes 16:13 Jordach mainly to the anims 16:14 DanDuncombe Just a few moments til the latest is on git. 16:14 DanDuncombe Okay. Latest version on Github 16:15 * Jordach needs link 16:15 DanDuncombe Link is on game topic 16:21 DanDuncombe Jordach, how's it going? 16:26 DanDuncombe Jordach, are you there? 16:26 Jordach mhm 16:26 MasterBot Hi 16:27 * Jordach tries another export 16:27 Jordach i'll frig about until it wokrs 16:27 Jordach works* 16:28 DanDuncombe Ready before tomorrow, I hope :) Looks really good so far. 16:28 MasterBot Any Oses i can fit on 4GB 16:28 MasterBot That can run minetest/Python? 16:29 nalkri Any sane Linux install? 16:29 DanDuncombe Get a bigger sd/memory card? 16:29 MasterBot Sorry, 4 and 2 are only ones i have 16:29 MasterBot And the point is to make it portable 16:30 MasterBot Hmm.. 200MB in 1min 50MB in 10min 16:30 MasterBot Damn Small Linux have shitty servers 16:35 DanDuncombe Jordach, any updates 16:36 Jordach DanDuncombe, hm, seems like blender's .x exporter is literally broken 16:36 Jordach when i say broken, i mean it 16:36 DanDuncombe Try a different version? Or I could try the default player model, somehow 16:38 DanDuncombe Jordach: I will now try using the Vombie model from MobF 16:39 MasterBot Is there an alternative to UnetBootin? 16:40 MasterBot oh, nvm, reboot :) 16:40 PenguinDad MasterBot: you can use multisystem 16:40 Jordach DanDuncombe, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Import-Export/DirectX_Exporter 16:41 Jordach there is a note at the top of the page 16:43 DanDuncombe Could you do that? I can't .x from Blender at all anyway, because I can't open User Preferences. 16:43 Jordach DanDuncombe, already got the fix, just need to apply it 16:45 DanDuncombe Okay. I tried the vombie model from mobf, and two things. 1) It uses a different pattern for textures, and 2) It moves sideways. 16:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, the model error that there is something missing is gone for good 16:48 DanDuncombe Errm. So, can anything be done? 16:48 Jordach DanDuncombe, continual re-exports 16:48 DanDuncombe Okay. 16:50 Jordach ehm shit 16:50 Jordach i had selected markers 16:50 DanDuncombe This may be a good thing to note: Minetest can load .b3d files as well as .x 16:50 Jordach which might have cause this 16:51 * Jordach tests 16:51 DanDuncombe Oh and BTW, the player model is hilarious. Instead of walking, when he moves he sits down and slides along on his bum. 16:51 DanDuncombe When used as the zombie. 16:53 DanDuncombe So if you can export as .b3d, then that may be a solution. 17:01 Jordach export b3d isnt in blender 17:01 DanDuncombe I just found that out. 17:01 DanDuncombe There must be a way... 17:03 DanDuncombe All I can suggest is get whatever program make .b3d files... 17:03 PilzAdam sapier has a script for blender to export b3d IIRC 17:04 DanDuncombe WHERE IS THE SCRIPT 17:07 DanDuncombe A blender-b3d script: https://supertuxkart.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/supertuxkart/media/trunk/blender_25/B3DExport.py 17:07 DanDuncombe Jordach, see above 17:09 Jordach bbl 17:38 DanDuncombe Can someone please look at the latest version of zombies and give them a better texture? Thanks so much! 17:38 DanDuncombe Just need to update git... 17:39 DanDuncombe Done! 17:46 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102032#p102032 17:55 DanDuncombe PLease help making texture (see above post) 17:56 Peacock someone will notice the forum post :P no need to keep asking multiple times here :-) 17:56 Peacock texture ppl are hard to come by 17:58 Peacock especially with people being anal about each texture's individual license lol 17:58 Calinou Peacock: are you mauvebic? :P 17:58 Peacock um, yeah, thought that was obvious :p 17:58 Peacock and its 14hrs here 17:59 PenguinDad At my place it's 20hrs 17:59 Peacock exio figured it out fairly quickly lol 18:00 Peacock CTCP are for time right? 18:00 Peacock anyways ive been away long enough that i dont remember the password for mauvebic lol 18:06 DanDuncombe It's just the texture is the Zombie Mod texture, and I don't like it because it's too similar to the Simplemobs original skin. 18:07 Peacock I think V has a lot of skins' for her servers' players 18:07 DanDuncombe This has a different shape though, and those won't therefore work 18:08 DanDuncombe Who think there should be the occasional giant zombie? 18:08 DanDuncombe And maybe baby ones too. 18:08 Menche i think normal zomies should be weaker 18:09 Menche speaking of baby zombies, on my server right now there's an entity bug that makes the zombies insect-sized 18:09 Peacock i get that with attach 18:09 Menche maybe my client still has the old models cached 18:09 Peacock my sentry was sposed to be a stationary machine gun that you had to aim to fire 18:09 Peacock but the players got shrunk to ant-size lol 18:09 Menche gah, a turret destroyed my boat :( 18:10 Peacock which turret mod? 18:10 Peacock dans or jordans? 18:10 Menche whatever DanDuncombe has in his zombies game 18:10 DanDuncombe The same as in my camo mod. 18:10 Peacock i dont know if jordans did the same but i got rid of the node removal, my bullets only hit people 18:11 Peacock though my turrets are realllly old so i dont quite remember how i set it up lol 18:13 Menche kaeza's firearms mod uses particles instead of entities for bullets 18:13 Peacock how does that work? i know particles can be physical, but do damage? 18:15 Peacock ahh, the particles dont actually do the killing 18:15 Menche it looks like it actually does spawn an entity 18:15 Menche ? 18:16 Peacock thats weird cuz my bullets can kill mobs (entities) 18:17 Peacock says on top of p5: - Added particles to simulate bullets. 18:17 Peacock if theyre simulated then theyre not doing the damage, something else is 18:17 Calinou of pentium 5? :D 18:17 Peacock page 18:17 Calinou Peacock: CTCP is for version, time, ping... 18:17 Calinou and theorically anything 18:17 Calinou you can create your own CTCPs 18:18 Peacock i dont use irc often enough to know all the quirks tho lol 18:18 PenguinDad Calinou and for FINGER 18:18 Calinou that too 18:21 Peacock weird, bullets look to be the same as mine, does firearms work on mobf? 18:21 Menche it looks like firearms looks ahead in the direction the player is facing, finds what is in that direction, and manually decreases the hp 18:21 Menche and just spawns a particle for show 18:22 Peacock firearmslib.lua lines 338-339: if (not obj.entity:is_player()) then 18:22 Peacock obj.entity:remove(); 18:22 Peacock seems like it removes the bullet if the obj is not a player 18:22 Mallot1 hello everyone :) 18:23 Peacock entities ain't players 18:23 Mallot1 pentium are you here? 18:24 * Menche is having problems with meshes from DanDuncombe's game 18:24 Menche zombies are like ants 18:26 Menche still do as much damage as ever 18:26 Peacock meshes scale funny sometimes lol 18:26 Peacock probably they were already scaled (you can find that somewhere in blender's UI lol) 18:26 Menche they were working fine before 18:27 Peacock then im out of theories lol 18:27 Menche DanDuncombe: did you change the zombie model? 18:28 DanDuncombe I have now put it back to what is was in the first version. 18:29 DanDuncombe In a moment, go to the game mode post to get a sneakyimage preview of the different zombie sizes for next version :) 18:30 Menche could you make normal zombies weaker? it's impossible to kill one with a diamond sword 18:30 Menche takes like 8-10 hits 18:31 Menche they can kill a player with half that 18:31 DanDuncombe They will have 30 hp in next version? Do you want it lower than that? 18:31 DanDuncombe Also, see screenies now! 18:32 DanDuncombe Does 20 hp sound good? Same as player? 18:32 Menche for a normal one, yeah 18:33 DanDuncombe Okay,mini ones have 10hp, normal 20hp, giant 50hp 18:33 Menche it's saying it couldn't load mobs_zombie.x 18:33 DanDuncombe I am still updatin... 18:35 DanDuncombe syncing... 18:35 NakedFury how much they hit for? half, full, # hearts? 18:35 NakedFury this is why I hate the heart system right now 18:35 Menche 1 damage = 1/2 heart right? 18:36 DanDuncombe 1=half a heart 18:36 DanDuncombe Update now! Take out your rage! Go, go,go! 18:36 * Menche sees yet another Thumbs.db added 18:36 DanDuncombe I will be back in 2 weeks.See yah later. 18:38 Peacock what are thumbs.db? i see these all over the place 18:38 ruskie windows thumbnail metadata 18:38 Peacock ahh 18:38 ruskie can remove it safely 18:40 Peacock im guessing windows hidden files get copied with the rest into the archives 18:44 cisoun Damn boys, almost 3000 commits ! 18:47 Peacock @ 5k therell be beer and hookers for everyone :D 18:47 Peacock j/k 18:59 Kacey aaw that is no fun Peacock 19:04 Jordach wait what 19:04 Jordach Peacock == mauvebic 19:04 hoodedice YO 19:05 Calinou YO DAWG 19:05 hoodedice Hmm. Been seeing the recent flames between Jordach and PilzAdam 19:06 hoodedice Is this community really that explosive? 19:06 Calinou it's as explosive as any open source community? 8D 19:06 Calinou people get emo when they don't agree with eachother 19:07 hoodedice So, this is normal? 19:07 hoodedice Wow. 19:07 Calinou sort of 19:08 hoodedice So, I'm a noob prog, as you know 19:08 Calinou same 19:08 hoodedice And I cam across this chem mod 19:09 hoodedice Straight Q - Can formspecs be made clickable? 19:09 hoodedice And, WHAT THE FUDGE ARE FORMSECS? 19:09 hoodedice *FORMSPECS 19:09 Calinou formspecs are GUIs you can create 19:09 Jordach formspecs are a specification to open menus attached to entities or blocks 19:09 Calinou ask RealBadAngel about it :D 19:10 Calinou the inventory is a formspec, too 19:10 hoodedice So, the pause menu is a formspec 19:10 hoodedice So if the inventory is clickable, then I can make one too :) 19:10 hoodedice Thanks 19:10 hoodedice Will check inventory source 19:10 Calinou pause isn't a formspec 19:11 Calinou main menu is a formspec now 19:11 hoodedice hmm. 19:12 Peacock flying freenode? that does that mean im going to be molested by security? 19:12 DanDuncombe Do you think my zombie game should be permanent night,or normal? Also, should zombies 'burn' in the sun? 19:12 hoodedice Nah, only vamps do that 19:12 Calinou lol Peacock 19:13 hoodedice Normal, but zombies come all the time 19:13 DanDuncombe So switch between day n night, but they don't die in sun? 19:13 hoodedice Make it realistic. #irony 19:13 hoodedice Yup 19:13 hoodedice But they go away 19:13 DanDuncombe They never go till they are killed 19:14 hoodedice Watch Resident Evil #irony, I haven't watched it myself. 19:14 hoodedice Make a code for that. 19:14 hoodedice :) 19:14 DanDuncombe Hence massive server lag, and the idea that they burn in sun to remove them 19:14 hoodedice What about if they don't get human flesh for a while, they will eat each other 19:14 hoodedice ? 19:15 DanDuncombe O don't know. But day and night will be short. 19:15 DanDuncombe G'bye 19:15 hdastwb is it actually possible to farm in permanight? 19:15 hoodedice Use a greenhouse mod. 19:15 hoodedice :P 19:15 hdastwb otherwise, the only food source is half-heart apples 19:16 hoodedice With arti-sunlights 19:19 Calinou our MinetestBot is back 19:20 Peacock looks like Air Freenode is ejecting passengers :p 19:23 Peacock well i have time for a beer run while freenode sorts itself out lol 19:24 whirm how do you get stainless steel dust in technic? 19:24 Calinou beer is evil 19:27 hdastwb by grinding stainless steel ingots? 19:28 Jordach holy shit 19:28 Jordach i survived the netsplit 19:30 DanDuncombe Can someone pm, in .we format, the best smallish armoured house they have. 19:30 DanDuncombe Minetest house I mean 19:31 Jordach they found my browser, they found my browser!! http://i.imgur.com/SFB67Xg.png 19:31 hdastwb darn it; someone stole my door on Menche's zombie server 19:31 DanDuncombe Lol 19:31 DanDuncombe Did you get overrun? Also, do you see giant zombies? 19:32 hdastwb not yet 19:32 hdastwb they also blocked off my mine, so I don't think any zombies got in 19:33 DanDuncombe No giants? He probably has't updated yet then. Also,zombies do NOT spawn on stone so mines should be safe. 19:33 DanDuncombe Also,I'm coming on now 19:33 hdastwb I mainly haven't been looking outside much. . . 19:38 Peacock beer is evil 19:38 Peacock maybe, but its less evil than weed and cigarettes (cut one out two months ago, the other in a month) 19:38 Calinou Jordach, "chrome derp" 19:38 Calinou lol 19:38 Peacock and beer is better than homicide under such circumstances 19:38 Calinou looks very similar :P 19:43 Peacock gotta fix these dang swoosh doors 19:44 Calinou talking about doors, I'd like to see glass doors in the default game. 19:44 Peacock good store doors 19:44 Peacock wood doors on a business looks silly, unless it's a bordello 19:46 DanDuncombe Menche: You must update your server's zombies, because they are currently 99% Invinsible. Also there is incredible lag. 19:46 Calinou invinsible? so they're both invincible and invisible at the same time? :P 19:48 DanDuncombe They are just invinCible 19:50 whirm hdastwb: and how do I do a stainless steel ingot? 19:50 hdastwb by alloy-smelting steel and chromium 19:52 Jordach Menche, what version is your zombie server running 19:52 Menche latest git 19:52 Jordach fuck 19:52 Jordach Menche, ip please 19:52 Menche menche.servegame.com 30001 19:52 Menche i'm currently trying to get it to restart 19:53 DanDuncombe It is overrun by zombies. 19:53 Jordach one /shutdown is sufficient 19:53 DanDuncombe Jordach: Why 'fuck'? 19:53 Jordach ctrl + c in terminal too 19:53 Menche it's not running in a terminal 19:53 Jordach DanDuncombe, i dont have latest git 19:53 DanDuncombe I need to be afk for a bit. 19:53 Menche it's started by a cronjob 19:54 Menche it was lagging and wasn't processing /shutdown 19:56 Menche fortunately, it's a very new map, so /clearobjects doesn't take that long 19:56 Peacock 0.4.7 shouldn't have the clearobjects eternity bug 19:56 Menche it only takes half an eternity now 19:57 Menche it works now; it used to crash 19:57 Peacock half of infinity is still infinity no? 19:57 Menche it takes much longer on a larger world, of course 19:57 Menche lol yeah 19:57 Peacock if it works now then its negative infinity :P 19:58 Menche wooo, 1 FPS 19:58 Peacock did you try turning it off and on? :p 19:58 Menche what? 19:59 Peacock standard tech support question :p 19:59 Menche i can't find the start button :( 19:59 Calinou ^ kim jong-un 19:59 Peacock wheres the any key???! 20:00 Peacock kim jong un... the only thing he needs to find is a gym 20:00 Peacock same goes for avery brooks and the female that played captain janeway 20:00 Menche a fat bratty kid in charge of an entire country... 20:00 Peacock how is that different from bush jr? (sans the fat) 20:01 PilzAdam Peacock, bush was elected by millions of people... 20:01 Peacock prolly the cocaine kept him skinny 20:01 Peacock well, the supreme court had something to say about it too 20:02 hdastwb (fewer millions than voted for his opponent) 20:02 Peacock i know this much: ill never vote on a computer 20:02 Calinou oh our daily atheism discussion 20:02 Peacock atheism? 20:02 Peacock did i miss something lol 20:03 Peacock i must be the only atheist on earth who doesn't like disussing it lol 20:03 Jordach Menche, did it crash again 20:03 nalkri There's not much to say about atheism really 20:03 Peacock it always ends up with "you think you got everything figured out" blah blah lol 20:04 NakedFury how do you guys go from cocaine to voting to gods? 20:04 nalkri Believe in any deities? Nope. Me neither 20:04 Peacock i believe in being surprised lol 20:04 Peacock i dont know whats gonna happen when i die and neither does anyone 20:04 PilzAdam NakedFury, thats #minetest :-) 20:04 NakedFury yeah Pilzaddam and they keep talking about it 20:05 NakedFury didnt we have a no religion or politic rule here? 20:05 Peacock calinou brought it up :p 20:05 Peacock doesnt opensource and copyleft fall under politics? 20:05 Calinou karma pls 20:05 Peacock its hard to divide the two 20:06 Peacock you cant mention opensource without saying "x corporation is evil" or "y law is stupid" 20:06 NakedFury ok what is there to say about it that we already in this channel dont know from the other countles times it has been mentioned? 20:06 PilzAdam "Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed." 20:06 Peacock i have no idea lol like i said, calinou brought up atheism, not me :p 20:07 * Jordach calls that rule bullshit 20:07 Calinou like rule 34 or 63 20:07 Jordach zing 20:07 Calinou "zing" is a registered trademark of notch 20:07 Calinou DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad 20:07 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad 20:08 DanDuncombe SHould I make zombies rarer? There always seems to be millions of them... 20:08 Peacock DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad 20:08 * Jordach rapidly hits his PC - load the media dumbfuck 20:08 Peacock now beetlejuice should show up 20:08 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, you are bad. 20:08 DanDuncombe No offence 20:08 Calinou Jordach, SSD for the win 20:08 Jordach DanDuncombe, isnt that the point of a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. 20:08 Jordach Calinou, im talking about the minetestserver 20:09 DanDuncombe But there are so many that you get nothing but lag. 20:09 Calinou ah 20:09 Calinou go to servers with remote_media :P 20:09 Peacock *offense 20:09 Calinou thank you Peacock for correcting him 20:09 Peacock you were thinking of defence (uk spelling) 20:09 DanDuncombe I was thinking maybe,normalzombies stay the same, but giants and minis are rarer? 20:10 Peacock dan, why not use the bones mod to turn dead players to zombies? 20:12 DanDuncombe I was thinking of that,but maybe at a later date. 20:12 DanDuncombe Also, amazing news: When I was making zombies rarer,I actually was making them more common by mistake. 20:13 DanDuncombe How would I utilise the bones mod,I wonder? Somehow use an abm,or something, I guess. 20:13 DanDuncombe But I want just 1 to spawn 20:13 Peacock minetest.register_on_dieplayer(func(ObjectRef)) 20:13 Peacock ^ Called when a player dies 20:14 Peacock then use player:getpos() to place a zombie 20:14 DanDuncombe Could you pastebin the necessary 'spawn a zombie on death' code? 20:14 Peacock does die player give the pos they died at or respawned at? 20:14 Peacock i didn't write it i just thought of it 20:14 Peacock i used something similar for a dynamic spawnpoint 20:15 Peacock since people keep wrecking spawn lol 20:15 Peacock or building right next to it lol 20:15 Peacock sentries machine-gunning down new players as they arrive 20:16 DanDuncombe Good for them. Teach thema lesson. 20:16 DanDuncombe Are the sentries automatic? 20:16 Peacock yep 20:16 DanDuncombe Are they Aimable?@ 20:16 Peacock i tried that 20:16 Calinou "aimable" in french means "lovable" 20:16 Calinou lol 20:16 Peacock attach causes player to shrink 20:16 NakedFury make spawn and the area around it protected from building on. 20:16 Calinou i wouldn't try :D 20:16 DanDuncombe Just use automatic ones. It is easiest and best. 20:17 Peacock i was thinking of a hardcoded spawn and narrow corridors to get around the map 20:17 DanDuncombe Wasn't there an aimable cannon mod? 20:17 Peacock thing is i wanted gun that people can't carry around, but can aim (like machine gun in wolfenstein where i got the idea) 20:18 Peacock tho im quite happy with Aliens (movie) type sentries, they rotate like the real thing 20:18 DanDuncombe Yeah. Like the old cannon mod 20:18 DanDuncombe Do your sentries turn to look at what they are shooting? 20:19 Peacock yep 20:19 Peacock you can get code for that from any of the mob mods 20:19 DanDuncombe Automtically? 20:19 Peacock yep 20:20 Peacock though since entities are more intense than plain nodes i reduced their range so ppl wouldn't go crazy with them 20:20 DanDuncombe Actually, I won't bother doing that. 20:20 DanDuncombe Otherwise my sentries would shoot themselves. 20:20 Peacock only if they target all entities instead of just players 20:21 Peacock and you can always read the entity to make sure its not a sentry 20:21 DanDuncombe True 20:21 DanDuncombe Can someone do a pull request with that feature for my Camo Mod? 20:22 DanDuncombe Also, with my zombies game, does changing the spawn thing at the bottom, when higher do they spawn more or less? 20:22 DanDuncombe *at the bottom of the zombie's code 20:24 DanDuncombe 'Spawn_inverse_chance = xxxx 20:26 Peacock is there a mod that has dark tinted glass? all ive seen is glass with colored borders 20:26 DanDuncombe Okay, goodbye everyone.I amnow leaving for the Holidays. Goodbye. 20:26 Calinou stained_glass, Peacock 20:26 Calinou bye DanDuncombe 20:27 nalkri On a related note, can glass colour light? 20:27 Calinou nope 20:27 DanDuncombe GOODBYE GUYS! 20:27 Calinou it can't tint what's behind, theorically possible with shaders 20:27 DanDuncombe 3 20:27 nalkri Enjoy your holiday 20:27 DanDuncombe 2 20:27 DanDuncombe 1 20:27 DanDuncombe BYE BYE! 20:27 nalkri Shame, can't have blood red windows for my temple then 20:27 * Menche counts the number of messages it took DanDuncombe to say goodbye 20:28 Peacock im trying to recreate a landmark from montreal lol 20:28 Peacock Tour de la Bourse 20:29 Peacock i dont think it houses a stock exchange anymore tho lol 20:29 Calinou that's what she said, Peacock 20:29 Peacock lol not that again :p 20:29 Calinou Peacock, look up "bourse" in a french dictionary and you'll see 20:29 Calinou it doesn't only mean "bank" or something like that 8D 20:30 Peacock ironically, for a french guy, i failed french but got flying colors for english XD 20:30 Peacock though they cant decide what kind of french to teach in quebec 20:37 whirm is it possible to craft stainless steel 20:37 whirm ? 20:37 Peacock which mod? 20:38 Calinou whirm, technic? 20:38 Calinou but there is no such thing in the default game 20:38 whirm Peacock. Calinou: yup, technic 20:38 Peacock well if RBA put it in, there must be a way to get it 20:38 whirm I'm looking at the code and I can't see a recipe for it 20:39 Calinou there is 20:39 Calinou but I don't remember, I don't use technic 20:39 whirm https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic_worldgen/crafts.lua 20:39 Peacock y u no have craft guide? 20:39 Calinou craft_guide is good, yeah 20:40 whirm I have it. from technic game, and it only shows how to make it from stainless steel dist 20:40 whirm dust 20:40 whirm which I can't craft either 20:41 Peacock what does craft guide say for dust then? 20:41 Peacock i think you have to use some sort of grinder 20:41 Peacock things you get from machines probably dont have crafts 20:42 Peacock but RBA knows more about it than me 20:42 whirm but the grinder needs electricity 20:42 Peacock well thats your problem :p 20:42 whirm and I need stainless steel to build the transformer to build the switcher to be able to use electric stuff 20:42 Peacock if you got technic then you gotta follow the directions 20:43 whirm it is a cyclic dependency 20:43 Peacock i dont play w/ technic either :/ 20:44 Peacock nothing against it, but the chain depency is too much for my poor dualcore 20:44 Peacock *dependency 20:44 whirm meh, I guess ill get the stainless steel ingots in creative mode then 20:44 whirm thanks for the help 20:45 whirm I tried putting iron and coal in an alloy thingie, but no dice 20:46 Peacock RBA should be on later 20:46 kahrl whirm: try putting chromium ingots and steel ingots in the alloy furnace 20:47 Peacock there he is lol 20:48 RealBadAngel hi folks 20:49 Kacey hi rba 20:49 Peacock RBA whirm is having trouble figuring out technic crafts 20:49 Kacey ShadowNinja found a bug with supply converters 20:50 whirm kahrl: ok, Ill try 20:51 whirm RealBadAngel: the stainless steel ingot recipe doesn't show in the craft guide 20:52 RealBadAngel i will check it right away whirm 20:52 whirm thx :D 20:57 RealBadAngel whirm, a mystery, i can see all 3 craft recipes there 20:57 Calinou a crafting recipe, wrapped in a mystery! 20:58 whirm RealBadAngel: I see: stainless steel block with no recipe for it, stainless steel dust with no recipe for it, stainless steel ingot with cooking from stainless steel dust as the only recipe 20:59 RealBadAngel are you sure you have latest technic? 21:00 whirm git rev-parse HEAD 21:00 whirm db695ceed8affba6a326875d6c32663e7a2be13b 21:02 Peacock didn't know git could give head 21:02 whirm Peacock: you would be surprised :D 21:03 Peacock explains why its so popular tho lol 21:05 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-23#i_3215282 what did you mean there? 21:05 PilzAdam I wasnt discussing anything 21:07 whirm RealBadAngel: any suggestion? 21:07 Peacock was prolly referring to another occasion 21:08 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, it usual when we start to discuss things you run PilzAdam.Shutdown() 21:08 PilzAdam but we havent discussed anything 21:09 RealBadAngel i were talkin to you 21:09 RealBadAngel but never mind 21:10 Peacock PilzAdam.Suggestion(input) 21:10 Peacock input = nil 21:10 Peacock return false 21:10 Peacock end 21:10 kahrl as you can see, PA reads the logs. IRC is asynchronous. 21:10 Peacock that function? 21:11 Peacock :P 21:11 PilzAdam Peacock, add print("Doesnt fit the voxel idea") 21:11 Peacock lol yeah 21:11 Peacock but alot of whats already in the game could fit that too 21:12 kahrl mmh, alots 21:12 Peacock thats why i dont think it makes a very good argument at this point 21:12 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 21:12 kahrl alot of voxels 21:12 Peacock half my crap is nodeboxes by now lol 21:12 kahrl eww 21:12 PilzAdam that game takes the voxel idea as a core rule 21:13 Peacock well ive been playing a long time :p 21:14 Peacock still, ppl seem to like it on my server 21:14 Peacock they think im nuts but they like it lol 21:14 PilzAdam people like everything 21:14 Peacock not everything, unless you add it all up 21:15 PilzAdam that doesnt say that its good in from a gameplay point of view 21:15 Peacock obvs it always depends on the idea 21:15 PilzAdam ehm, thats good grammar ;-) 21:15 Peacock if you can toggle it off, its not as bad as something youre stuck with 21:16 Peacock im not particularly crazy about item drops, the mess it made on my server within two days, but at least i can turn it off 21:17 * Jordach has a variety of skins, winter, summer, autumn / spring 21:17 Peacock youre not still running 4seasons i hope? :P 21:17 whirm kahrl: I tried with chromium and steel but nope 21:18 Peacock if someone wants to remake 4seasons with better code, by all means, it was one of my first lol 21:18 whirm kahrl: ahh, sorry, it took a while but it works! 21:18 Jordach Peacock, nope.avi 21:19 Peacock F1 or F2 should hide player names too, ruins screens :( 21:19 Jordach heh 21:20 * Jordach keeps thinking Peacock is a different person 21:20 Peacock but you PMd me earlier lol 21:20 Jordach ikr 21:20 Peacock if you can bruteforce the password to mauvebic go ahead :P 21:20 Peacock i got locked out after n times lol 21:21 Peacock tho maybe my IP will change when i move next week 21:28 Peacock out of curiosity, someone called PilzAnal joined my server yesterday and started griefing, im guessing that wasn't PilzAdam? 21:28 PilzAdam he also joineed this channel some time ago, got banned 21:29 Peacock aiight i banned him/her too lol 21:29 PilzAdam and it wasnt me 21:29 Peacock i doubt youd pick that name lol 21:29 Peacock you seem to have a weird fanclub tho 21:30 * PilzAdam is famous 21:30 PilzAdam :D 21:31 Peacock can people connect to minetest through proxies? 21:31 PilzAdam why not? 21:31 Peacock didn't know you could with udp 21:32 Peacock i ban other players and magically Guests login two seconds later lol 21:33 nalkri You can proxy anythingg 21:33 nalkri *anything 21:33 nalkri If the proxy is willing 21:34 Peacock i have a hard time setting it up for browsers lol 21:34 Peacock since the ubuntu forum hack.. 21:34 nalkri s/You/One/ 21:34 Jordach [off] and yet no-one has successfully used TOR with minetest 21:34 Peacock i wouldn't touch TOR with a 20ft yardstick lol 21:34 Peacock govt's watch that shit 21:34 Peacock more than regular traffic 21:35 PilzAdam Jordach, paranoid? 21:35 nalkri TOR connected to trusted hidden services isn't totally horrible 21:35 Peacock besides do you cops knocking at your door because ppl use it to buy dope or CP 21:35 Peacock *do you want 21:35 Jordach PilzAdam, i used the secret code so that griefers cant see a technique 21:36 Peacock i use hi freq sounds to annoy griefers into quitting lol 21:40 Jordach lol 21:40 Jordach isnt that torture 21:41 Peacock probably but so is fixing spawn lol 21:42 Peacock thinking of making spawn this round room with grate flooring and lava basement 21:42 Peacock grief that and die lol 21:42 Jordach Peacock, banning lava 21:42 Jordach grief the spawn and touch the lava = ban 21:42 Peacock i already removed all the liquids from creative 21:42 Jordach includes other players 21:43 Peacock i give it to ppl manually if i trust them 21:44 Peacock havent given anyone multinode access yet, could fuck things up seriously lol 21:44 Jordach no one knows how to use multinode 21:45 Peacock its pure GUI by now 21:45 Peacock like, in the inventory 21:45 Peacock the node it uses is the 1st one in your inv 21:45 Peacock the inv itself sticks the newest at the front instead of end 21:46 Peacock otherwise your constatly moving stuff from end to first 8 21:50 Peacock any resemblance? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Tour_de_la_Bourse_Montreal.jpg ---> http://s8.postimg.org/pbeewx1md/screenshot_384963682.jpg 21:51 nalkri The first one looks like a cheap knockoff of the second 21:51 Peacock which ones the cheap one? lol 21:51 Peacock the real or the voxel 21:51 nalkri The one with the round tower next to it is better 21:52 nalkri I think the other one is a copy 21:52 Peacock allright then im doing good :-) thanks 21:52 nalkri It was a slightly tongue in cheek comment, but a real compliment :) 21:53 Peacock a touch of my hometown :p 21:54 nalkri I think I'd recognise it if I'd seen the original 21:54 nalkri Which is probably the main thing 21:54 Peacock the first img is the original? 21:55 nalkri I mean if I'd seen the building 21:55 nalkri And was wandering around Minetest and saw your building 21:56 Peacock unfortunately i dont know of any other montrealers who play MT :/ 21:56 Peacock i also lived in Toronto for ten years, i know of one player from around there 21:56 Jordach i know three norfolk people on the internet 21:56 Jordach and all three play minetest 21:57 Peacock i should do the CN tower next :-) 22:05 Peacock dang stack overflow, too many builders building lol 22:16 frogcrush Hi, does anyone know why my server keeps crashing from the following error: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': /usr/share/minetest/builtin/deprecated.lua:41: bad argument #6 to 'func' (string expected, got no value) 22:16 frogcrush ? 22:16 Peacock thats a weird one :/ 22:17 Peacock what version mT? 22:17 frogcrush 0.4.7 22:17 frogcrush On Arch Linux, from the Community repo 22:18 Menche wow, didn't notice minetest was in community! 22:18 Peacock what is argument #6? 22:18 PilzAdam frogcrush, what mods do you have? 22:18 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/ac-cf-10pm/ 22:18 Jordach chilled night music :P 22:18 frogcrush animals boats farmingplus fishing locked_sign money moreores noncubic pipeworks player_radar technic weather 22:18 frogcrush betterhud classes firearms homedecor mesecons moreblocks moretrees oil plantlife sea unifieddyes 22:19 * Jordach realised we can spam as we please; shadowbot aint here 22:19 Peacock hard to find the error among that lol but one of the mods is using deprecated function 22:19 frogcrush lol, time for some trial and error, I guess 22:19 Peacock and not the right way (tm) 22:19 PilzAdam frogcrush, replace all "minetest.env:" with "minetest." in that mods, then you get a proper backtrace 22:20 Jordach five bucks it's the oil mod 22:20 Peacock makes you wish lua had variable variable names lol 22:21 Peacock can you do minetest.env = minetest ? 22:23 frogcrush Jordach: +1 to you, it was the oil mod 22:23 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6091 22:23 Jordach boom, five bucks 22:23 Peacock oil mod? thats ancient yeah lol 22:24 Peacock might as well just define oil liquid and use pipeworks 22:27 hdastwb RBA, what are your thoughts on this: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/65 ? 23:14 Jordach wtf 23:14 Jordach serious wtf 23:14 Jordach closed FL Studio, reopened it, the sounds i made in the last audio buffer have returned 23:15 Jordach oh, vlc was still going 23:32 Jordach -NickServ- Jordach_!~Jordach@host86-165-180-60.range86-165.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (jordach) -- er what 23:36 PilzAdam Jordach, someone got your password? 23:36 Jordach PilzAdam, that's my ip 23:57 PilzAdam bye