Time Nick Message 00:06 Kacey hey anyone good with making textures? 00:07 Menche for what? 00:07 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/moretubes a few things are missing textures 00:20 Megaf could you please point me to a /sethome like mod? 00:20 Megaf or /home or something 00:20 Megaf players are asking for this 00:22 PilzAdam ok, go to ixquick.com enter "sethome site:forum.minetest.net" in the search bar and then click on the first (non ad) link 00:27 Megaf PilzAdam, what you are saying is, I will get a lot of information on the minetest forum, right? 01:17 PilzAdam bye 02:27 Menche lol, there's an entry on ebay for detroit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/City-of-Detroit-/130951248586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7d4d7aca 02:27 Menche the bidding started at $7.50 02:28 Menche and hey, there's free shipping 02:44 sdzen so tempting 02:47 Peacock id buy the city if i could liquidate the population :/ 02:47 Peacock how much do organs sell on ebay for? 02:47 * Menche is interested in the "free shipping" for that item 02:48 sdzen the organs are probably damaged 02:48 Peacock crack/cocaine yeah youre right 02:48 sdzen not strong enough pipes 02:48 sdzen couldn't hold a note if they tried 02:48 Peacock allright, so let's buy the city, and flood it with crack until it's depopulated :D 02:49 sdzen I suggest pcp 02:49 sdzen then they can drink the polluted water up as well 02:49 sdzen :) 02:49 Peacock we could always get rid of welfare, then everybody will leave :D 03:00 Mallot1 nope 03:00 Mallot1 hi 03:41 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 03:42 thefamilygrog66 the daily build looks a little wonky today 03:45 thefamilygrog66 scratch that - the daily build client on my server looks right messed up. 03:51 Peacock lol someone tried to grief me while i was eating, they didn't get far 04:21 Peacock netsplit party 04:28 Kacey how do i give someone push acess? 04:28 VanessaE under "Repo Settings -> Collaborators" 04:29 Kacey ooh... 04:29 VanessaE (the "tool" icon, just above the repo URL on the right) 04:42 hdastwb VanessaE, what do you think about removing the aliases at the top of the node breaker/deployer files so as to not use the technic versions? 04:43 VanessaE no, the aliases are needed so that they can safely be dropped from technic. I don't like breaking compatibility with old maps 04:43 VanessaE or do you mean so that pipeworks won't defer to technic's versions? 04:44 VanessaE in that case, yeah, nuke 'em 04:44 VanessaE as long as they get dropped from technic shortly thereafter 04:45 hdastwb I think RBA was saying that he was getting rid of the technic ones, though he hasn't yet… 04:45 VanessaE yes 04:52 VanessaE I'd remove them now if I weren't so damn tired 04:53 VanessaE but I'd rather let RBA handle it, in case he has further plans 04:56 hdastwb it also looks like the plastic-based recipes for tubes still work with technic installed, is that intentional? 04:57 VanessaE I'm not sure what RBA intends there - I thought the idea was to make them use glass+steel but maybe that changed 04:57 VanessaE or maybe I just need to update the crafts a bit to check for technic 04:57 hdastwb no, I think the problem is that I have my technic installed as technic/technic/init.lua 04:58 hdastwb it seems to check for technic/init.lua and technic_master/init.lua 04:58 VanessaE yeah, then I'm doing it wrong 04:58 VanessaE lemme fix it 04:58 hdastwb alright 05:00 VanessaE fixed in pipeworks git. 05:00 VanessaE try that and tell me if it works right :-) 05:01 VanessaE (that part was written before optional dependencies were allowed and never got updated) 05:04 hdastwb it looks like that just created a dependency loop and caused none of the mods to be able to load… 05:04 VanessaE aw shit 05:05 VanessaE delete the "technic?" line from depends.txt then 05:05 VanessaE I forgot technic loads pipeworks first :) 05:06 hdastwb yep, that seems to have worked 05:06 VanessaE fixed in git 05:07 VanessaE which is odd, because technic shoulda loaded first *anyway* 05:07 VanessaE meh 05:07 VanessaE I'm too tired to work out dependencies anyway 05:08 Peacock flowcharts :p 05:13 VanessaE did it fix the recipe issue? 05:16 hdastwb I think it has 05:16 VanessaE ok 05:25 leo_rockway I never look at MC stuff, but somebody linked me to this and it looks pretty impressive: http://imgur.com/gallery/Ra9lx 05:25 leo_rockway we do have most of that stuff, though, I think. 05:25 VanessaE nice. 05:26 VanessaE our mapgen doesn't quite do that kind of terrain, and my jungle trees don't generate densely enough in moretrees, but we have everything else 05:26 leo_rockway I should look for that mod for canyons 05:26 leo_rockway I've never actually tried it 05:26 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4901 05:26 VanessaE I think. 05:27 leo_rockway I was playing MT today for the first time in months 05:27 VanessaE too bad all the screenshots are gone 05:27 leo_rockway I found mese and diamond... idk which one is stronger o.o 05:27 VanessaE (well most are) 05:27 VanessaE leo_rockway: I dunno either, since diamonds were introduced, I'm confused as well 05:28 nalkri Mese is easier to find, and pretty hard 05:28 Pentium44 hi 05:28 nalkri So I just use that :p 05:28 VanessaE hi 05:28 leo_rockway nalkri: I found diamonds before mese 05:28 leo_rockway but they were fairly close 05:28 Pentium44 im planing on making a website for minetest mods 05:28 Pentium44 does anyone have any suggestions for it? 05:28 leo_rockway it would be nicer if the diamonds sparkled more 05:29 leo_rockway or sparkled at all 05:29 VanessaE leo_rockway: easily done by enabling and adding a texture animation to it 05:29 leo_rockway oh, there's texture animation? o.o 05:29 nalkri Oh, I've found much more mese, though I might have found diamond first(found one diamond right near the surface) 05:29 VanessaE you could perhaps write a mod that redefined diamond ore and blocks 05:29 leo_rockway does the furnace have that too? 05:29 VanessaE leo_rockway: sure, torches, water, and lava how it 05:29 VanessaE the furnace does not, no 05:30 VanessaE but it could if someone were so inclined 05:30 leo_rockway are there plans for 3d torches? 05:30 leo_rockway or do people prefer them 2d? 05:30 nalkri Nooooo 05:30 VanessaE dunno, but I hope not. 05:30 VanessaE I prefer the 2d ones. 05:30 nalkri Don't take away my cardboard torches! 05:30 leo_rockway I like the 3d ones better, but I don't hate on the 2d ones. 05:30 nalkri I wouldn't really cry at 3d ones, but I'm quite fond of 2d 05:30 leo_rockway I'm also confused by the finite water 05:31 leo_rockway either the abm is too slow or the water doesn't behave the way I'd expect it to behave 05:31 leo_rockway nalkri: the only issue I have is that sometimes I don't see them o.o 05:31 VanessaE leo_rockway: finite water is additive, if you wanna fill a pool, you have to add enough water to actually fill it 05:31 nalkri leo_rockway: they might need a cross then 05:32 nalkri Though that would be hard to do with the angle they're at 05:32 leo_rockway nalkri: that would actually be great 05:32 nalkri Crosses work well for pseudo 3d 05:32 leo_rockway I think that would be better than actual 3d 05:32 leo_rockway it would match the environment 05:32 nalkri Like motoring cones on boats that are actually two triangles slotted together 05:33 leo_rockway I like playing MT every once in a while to see the changes, but I'm not very interested in the Lego / creative part of it. So I really look forward to mobs in main. 05:34 leo_rockway I like building stuff sometimes, but I don't have the patience 05:34 leo_rockway I have a server, so people come and build. I like seeing what they build. 05:35 leo_rockway I discovered a water dam in my server o.o it produces light, with mesecons. 05:35 leo_rockway that looked really impressive 05:35 leo_rockway I never even used mesecons. 05:35 leo_rockway some other guy had a doorbell. I thought that was very creative. 05:37 OldCoder Time to head home. Good evening. 05:37 VanessaE hi OldCoder 05:37 leo_rockway OldCoder: \ø 05:38 OldCoder o/ 05:38 VanessaE bbl 05:40 leo_rockway VanessaE: see, this kind of behaviour is odd: http://leorockway.com.ar/mt.png 05:40 leo_rockway the water is like frozen. 05:40 leo_rockway oh, it started moving now, but it took like 2 minutes 05:42 leo_rockway http://leorockway.com.ar/mt1.png 05:42 leo_rockway it still looks a bit odd 05:42 leo_rockway it's slowly filling the area, though. But quite slowly. 05:42 leo_rockway I like this behaviour, but it's just too slow to make sense. 05:50 Pentium44 ok everyone, if you develop mods : http://mods.minetest.net/ 05:57 Peacock interesting 05:57 Peacock though it feels kinda weird without a bunch of popups like other hosts lol 05:59 Pentium44 hehe 05:59 Pentium44 im not liike that 06:06 McBrutal hi all 06:07 McBrutal im back at trying to install minetest on ubuntu 06:09 McBrutal Ive installed it using the deb file, im new to linux and dont know how to copy mods into it 06:09 Pentium44 McBrutal 06:09 Pentium44 its easy 06:09 Pentium44 ok 06:09 Pentium44 so go here 06:09 Pentium44 /usr/share/minetest 06:10 Pentium44 and there should be a games directory 06:10 Pentium44 go into minetest_game 06:10 Pentium44 then mods 06:10 Pentium44 and move your mods into that directory 06:10 McBrutal mine is in a diff directory 06:11 Pentium44 ok then 06:11 Pentium44 try /usr/local/share 06:11 Pentium44 or /home//.minetest 06:31 Lynxx hello evryone :) 06:31 nalkri Good morning Lynxx 06:31 Lynxx ._. 06:32 Lynxx i came here to ask if anyone knows how to make changes to camera.cpp and make them visible when you start the game.... 06:33 nalkri I don't, sorry, wait a while for someone smarter 06:33 nalkri And who hates C++ less than I do :þ 06:34 Lynxx hahah 06:34 Lynxx ok :) 06:35 nalkri Out of interest though, what are you wanting to change? 06:38 Lynxx how the hand is viewed by the player and how big it is displayed 06:38 nalkri Ah, it looks like a bread roll currently 06:38 Lynxx yep 06:38 Lynxx i want to fix that it's been buging me since day 1 and it's starting to itch 06:38 Lynxx so i'm gonna do what i can to fix that :# 06:40 Lynxx or atleast tweak it a bit 06:42 * VanessaE is back 06:42 Lynxx hello :D 06:43 VanessaE hi 06:43 nalkri Welcome back 06:46 Lynxx hmmm i'm gonna explode soon >.< 06:52 kahrl are you a creeper? who enabled hostile mobs here D: 06:53 Lynxx ._. i might be a bug 06:53 Lynxx lol 06:58 VanessaE kahrl: seen my comment in -dev ? 06:58 kahrl VanessaE: I have now 06:58 VanessaE ok 06:59 kahrl does it go away if you use fewer items/nodes? 06:59 VanessaE I have not tried. 07:00 VanessaE it's just something I randomly noticed 07:00 VanessaE yep, it happens even with vanilla minetest_game 07:01 kahrl strange 07:01 Peacock do asterisks in ingame chat cause segfaults for anyone? 07:01 kahrl you tried disabling bumpmapping already? 07:01 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2007222013%20-%2003:03:25%20AM.png 07:01 VanessaE no, not yet 07:02 VanessaE checking.. 07:02 VanessaE seems okay when using default textures 07:03 VanessaE seems okay with HDX 256 when bumpmap is disabled. 07:03 VanessaE ok, that settles that :) 07:04 VanessaE so RBA broke it :P 07:04 kahrl in theory it could be commit fc6725f14e 07:05 kahrl but yeah no one else but RBA and hmmmmm (in that commit) touched it 07:05 VanessaE hm, that's possible 07:05 VanessaE lemme see if I can revert that one locally 07:07 VanessaE nope, that one wasn't it 07:12 VanessaE I'll bug RBA to fix it when he shows up next 07:13 Peacock Segfault, we meet again lol 07:14 VanessaE at any rate, I figured you would be happy to know it wasn't your suggestion that caused it :) 07:14 Peacock there must be a max length to ingame chat or something 07:19 jojoa1997 Hello 07:19 * VanessaE pokes jojoa1997 and Calinou 07:20 jojoa1997 I'm back from a long break and OW! 07:20 Peacock sunburned to a crisp? 07:20 * jojoa1997 pokes VanessaE 07:20 jojoa1997 Nope from minetest 07:21 jojoa1997 Been gone for about 2-3 months 07:21 PenguinDad \o/ 07:21 Peacock i think kahrls' got you beat by a year :p 07:21 VanessaE why have you been away? 07:22 Peacock prison :p 07:22 jojoa1997 Two things 07:22 Peacock "the federal oil rig" lol 07:22 jojoa1997 #1 lol I still a, in top 5 ,ost posts 07:22 jojoa1997 Also I just got fed up with some developers 07:23 Peacock eat them 07:23 jojoa1997 And I bought minecraft and well it is fun 07:23 * VanessaE wonders who in particular 07:23 Peacock lol 07:23 jojoa1997 But I midss 07:23 jojoa1997 But I miss the possibilities of minetest 07:24 Peacock paramat's written some cool-ass mods since 07:24 VanessaE jojoa1997: it's moved along quite nicely lately 07:24 jojoa1997 Also the first month was really I had finals and the second two weeks of vacation was at Washington DC or camp 07:24 jojoa1997 VanessaE cool 07:24 Peacock not... band camp? :p 07:24 jojoa1997 Nope 07:25 VanessaE jojoa1997: you finally get your parents to 'unlock' your PC? 07:25 jojoa1997 VanessaE when I saw your new picture I thought you were a guy 07:25 VanessaE wtf? 07:25 jojoa1997 Yep since the first of summer and then I leave for two weeka 07:25 VanessaE thank G*d no 07:25 jojoa1997 :-* 07:25 Peacock LOL 07:25 jojoa1997 I have to get github running 07:25 Peacock thats allright, when i first saw celeron's picture i thought he was a girl, so it evens out 07:26 jojoa1997 I'm gonna restart everything and get eid of all the mods on my github 07:26 Peacock eid? 07:26 Peacock oh, rid 07:26 jojoa1997 Rid 07:27 Peacock howcome? 07:27 jojoa1997 Too much clutter 07:28 Peacock yeah, accumulating mods = too much lag after a while 07:28 Peacock and then you're like, "do i even use these nodes?" lol 07:28 Calinou Peacock: or not 07:29 Calinou heavy mods, yes 07:29 Calinou if you have 500 mods which add one node each, then no 07:29 Peacock well, a ton of tiny mods add up too 07:29 Peacock especially if they all use hirez textures 07:30 jojoa1997 Calinou I have not heard your greeting to me 07:30 jojoa1997 Yet 07:30 VanessaE I have over 4100 nodes on my server and it doesn't usually lag unless someone is exploring new terrain 07:30 * Peacock does secret handshake 07:30 jojoa1997 Like me 07:30 VanessaE (and 90% of that lag is from a single mod that uses a part of the engine that's slow) 07:30 Peacock on_genereated? 07:31 Calinou jojoa1997: hi 07:31 jojoa1997 Speaking of which what is my password. Please pm me I can't get on 07:31 jojoa1997 Calinou: I meant "Tablet user!" 07:32 jojoa1997 Calinou what is 07:32 jojoa1997 CPCT 07:32 jojoa1997 CTXP 07:32 jojoa1997 CTCP 07:32 Calinou client to client protocol, it lets you know which IRC client someone uses, or their time zone 07:33 Peacock careful jojoa, bot kicks on flood :p 07:33 nalkri Or exchange files 07:33 Peacock poor oldcoder lol 07:33 Calinou >2013 >exchange files through IRC directly 07:33 Calinou [inception face] 07:34 nalkri hehe 07:34 Peacock inception? 07:34 * Peacock dies in slow motion 07:34 jojoa1997 Guys remember my super control parents 07:34 Peacock you had them wacked? 07:35 jojoa1997 Well I got them to play MiniTest today 07:36 jojoa1997 I meant minetest 07:36 Peacock and? (they liked?) 07:36 jojoa1997 Stupid auto corrwxt 07:36 Peacock stupid auto cat rectal 07:36 jojoa1997 Yeah I spent two hours finally getting them to dig coal 07:37 jojoa1997 So... 07:37 jojoa1997 Any big new mods out 07:37 Peacock flolands, moonrealm, 07:37 Peacock mount meru pretty cool too 07:38 Peacock someone made a mod to hide mesecon wires 07:39 Peacock about a dozen or so instant building mods lol 07:40 jojoa1997 You know they should add villages to minetest with the ability of the instant building mods 07:40 Lynxx ._. why so many insta build mods? 07:40 Peacock god knows, theyre all derived from each other lol 07:40 Peacock the only difference is which buildings they come with 07:41 jojoa1997 Yeah 07:41 Peacock you'd think they'd have the one mod and contribute all the buildings to the same repo 07:41 * Calinou makes wayland look to Peacock 07:41 Calinou it doesn't work like that in the open source world 07:41 Peacock wayland yutani? 07:42 Peacock that i know lol 07:42 Peacock 3 people will come up with 5 different solutions 07:43 jojoa1997 Well open source can be a headache 07:43 Peacock if argument then solutions ^ 3 return end 07:43 jojoa1997 So are the biomes with mgv7 yet 07:44 Calinou it can be a headache if you're looking for credit or recognition 07:44 Calinou if you don't it isn't 07:44 webdesigner97 hi 07:44 Calinou hi 07:44 sfan5|_ hi 07:44 webdesigner97 what charset does the map.sqlite use? couldn't find a hint in mapformat.txt 07:45 Peacock its also a headache when everyone's an armchair lawyer lol 07:45 jojoa1997 So the big question 07:45 sfan5|_ webdesigner97: charset? ASCII 07:46 Peacock i understood data, the rest's in polish 07:46 jojoa1997 Please tell me there are bioms 07:46 jojoa1997 Biomes 07:46 jojoa1997 Or a way to make them 07:46 webdesigner97 ok, I'll try it out. 07:46 webdesigner97 never used sqlite before, only mysql 07:46 Peacock cross referencing in mysql, the good old days lol 07:47 sfan5|_ webdesigner97: the numbers are not plaintext... 07:47 webdesigner97 what do you mean? 07:48 jojoa1997 Well off to watch youtube 07:48 sfan5|_ they are not like "64" they are packed into bytes 07:49 Calinou jojoa1997|OFF: away nicks kill 07:49 sfan5|_ if you dont know what I mean you should read a book about data types in C 07:50 webdesigner97 My problem is that I want to find out the node at a . I was able to convert the Python script in mapformat.txt to PHP, and it works. I get correct positions, but now I want to get the node at this pos 07:50 jojoa1997 Why must you wake me buy mentioning my name,e 07:50 * Calinou buys jojoa1997's name 07:51 jojoa1997 Is there a new landmine in the community 07:51 Peacock string.byte or something like that? 07:51 sfan5|_ yes 07:51 Peacock the positions' vacant jojoa if you want it :p 07:52 sfan5|_ byte1 for uint8_t byte1 + byte2 << 8 for uint16_t 07:52 Peacock actually i think i had him on my server today lol 07:52 Peacock andres/polla 07:53 VanessaE there, finally 07:53 VanessaE Made moreblocks dependency optional and configurable (d32993e) 07:54 webdesigner97 seems to be a hard problem. let me try to import map.sqlite to a mysql database 07:54 Peacock would that help? 07:55 sfan5|_ webdesigner97: that won't help 07:56 webdesigner97 yep.... just saw it :D 07:56 sfan5|_ you need to extract the packed numbers 07:57 jojoa1997 Back Peacock what do you mean the position is vacant. What position? 07:57 Peacock the landmine position :p 07:57 Peacock you have to be mexican though 07:57 jojoa1997 Um no 07:57 webdesigner97 how? this is confusing me :D what does the data field contain? 07:58 sfan5|_ bytes 07:58 jojoa1997 Peacock first I live near Cuba not mexico. I have all the Hispanics I need. Second I would feel bad 07:59 sfan5|_ what are you trying to do? 07:59 Peacock lol, i have hispanics too, i keep them in the basement 07:59 webdesigner97 bytes... 07:59 jojoa1997 Now if VanessaE added TNT to her server and allowed me to destroy it then maybe 07:59 VanessaE NFW. 07:59 jojoa1997 But I would have myself rolled back of course 08:00 jojoa1997 Also what is nfw 08:00 sfan5|_ webdesigner97: what are you trying to do anyway? 08:00 jojoa1997 Eat you 08:00 VanessaE No Fucking Way 08:00 VanessaE hi webdesigner97. 08:00 Peacock people are getting around rollback lately by using several players and overlapping griefs 08:00 Peacock undo one and it makes things worse 08:01 jojoa1997 webdesigner97: Star wars battlefront II FTW nice choice 08:07 webdesigner97 oh, I'm silly. Why don't I just use the debug.txt to find out my home's pos?! 08:08 VanessaE haha 08:09 jojoa1997 I'm I. A crissis 08:09 webdesigner97 now I need to find my bones with all those diamonds and mese 08:09 jojoa1997 :-$ :'( :-\ O:-) :-[ :-! :-$ B-) :O :-* =-O :-P ;-) :-( :-) 08:09 jojoa1997 What face do I use 08:10 Peacock sound like hannibal lol 08:11 Peacock wait you're on the east coast? isn't it late? lol 08:12 * webdesigner97 is happy again. He could save his diamonds and mese 08:13 jojoa1997 Yeah 23 hours and counting 08:13 jojoa1997 Shooting for 48 hours and then I sleep 08:19 jojoa1997 So quiet 08:19 Peacock europeans should be waking up soon :P 08:19 Peacock otherwise just insomniac north americans 08:20 jojoa1997 Hay some people need to wake up at five for school 08:20 * webdesigner97 is from Europe 08:20 jojoa1997 Also Americans wake up earlier but go to sleep earlier too 08:20 Peacock wait what time is it in EU? 08:21 webdesigner97 Germany: 10:20 AM 08:21 jojoa1997 In america everything is like 2 hours early 08:21 Peacock ok yeah what i thought 08:21 Peacock and west coast N.A. should be around midnight 08:21 jojoa1997 It is 4:21 here in east coast 08:21 jojoa1997 VanessaE why aren't you asleep 08:21 VanessaE I'm a night-owl anyway 08:22 jojoa1997 Same 08:22 webdesigner97 :D 08:22 jojoa1997 I hate it 08:22 jojoa1997 I am so tired during the day but once it is dark I am ADHD on nothing 08:22 Peacock heatwaves threw off my clock lol 08:23 Peacock same here 08:23 jojoa1997 Also ADHD plus coffee actually calmed them down 08:23 Peacock wake up tired but awake when tired lol 08:23 * webdesigner97 build a smithy (<- is this the right word) in his singleplayer world 08:23 VanessaE amithy? 08:23 jojoa1997 My ADHD saves me 08:23 VanessaE smithy? * 08:24 jojoa1997 Smith 08:24 jojoa1997 Sith 08:24 webdesigner97 lol 08:24 jojoa1997 STARWARS 08:24 Peacock most kids seem to have adhd lol 08:24 Peacock big bucks for big pharma 08:24 jojoa1997 peacock I am a teenager 08:24 Peacock like i said, kids :p 08:24 VanessaE Peacock: sure, they ALL have ADHD -- until people realize that, hey, kids will be kids 08:24 jojoa1997 I should of outgrown my fake adhd 08:24 webdesigner97 the place where a blacksmith works 08:24 Peacock they call army boys kids when < 20 08:24 VanessaE then this stupid ADHD thing will go away 08:24 jojoa1997 A blacksmiths 08:25 jojoa1997 Or forge 08:25 Peacock well teachers need to dope kids 08:25 jojoa1997 Nope I am a true ADHD kid 08:25 Peacock they could handle 20-25, but not 35-40 at a time 08:25 webdesigner97 ah, ok :D thx. So that's what I'm building currently. The old one looked more like a big rock 08:25 jojoa1997 But I have controlled my self 08:25 Peacock goto 2 shrinks youll get 5 diagnoses lol 08:25 VanessaE teachers sure as hell better not be doing anything to kids except teaching the classes and handling whatever discipline is needed. 08:26 jojoa1997 I am in IB that is all they have time to do 08:26 Peacock what can teachers do? parents today blame them, not their kids 08:26 jojoa1997 Without needing to teach siacipkine 08:26 VanessaE Peacock: then the parents are the problem. simple as that. 08:27 Peacock they should issue breeding licenses 08:27 jojoa1997 I need food so hungry but if I got to the fridge my dog will barkp 08:27 VanessaE haha 08:27 jojoa1997 They do 08:27 Peacock though that might fall under eugenics :/ 08:27 jojoa1997 Marriage 08:27 jojoa1997 I think 08:27 Peacock marriage in olden times was a transfer of ownership of women from father to another man 08:27 Peacock back when they had doweries 08:27 Peacock (spelling?) 08:29 jojoa1997 You mean parents married children to wealthy guys so the parents could get money 08:29 Peacock its still done that way in some parts lol 08:29 Peacock yep 08:29 jojoa1997 Greedy people tsk tsk tsk 08:30 VanessaE ok, time to try to sleep, yet again 08:30 VanessaE night all 08:30 Peacock frying pan to the head usually helps me sleep 08:31 jojoa1997 I could just lay down and close my eyes but it is almost 5 08:31 Peacock im staying up and keeping the windows open as long as possible lol 08:32 Peacock im glad im moving in two weeks to a place where you can fit an A/C in the window 08:32 * jojoa1997 whispers to VanessaE are you asleep yet? 08:32 Peacock those friggin mobile A/C's dont look like they last 08:32 Peacock and cost4x + 08:33 jojoa1997 I get free food and ac where I live :-P 08:33 Peacock obviously if you didn't your parents would be arrested for neglect 08:33 Peacock for the food part at least 08:33 jojoa1997 What if I say I refuse to eat 08:33 jojoa1997 Muwhahaha 08:33 Peacock eating disorder 08:34 Peacock if they don't get you help its also neglect 08:34 jojoa1997 Nope 08:34 jojoa1997 Midnight meals would work 08:34 Lynxx goodnight? 08:34 Lynxx ._. 08:34 jojoa1997 To me? 08:34 Peacock i skip alot of meals tho so i shouldn't talk 08:34 Peacock eating 3 times a day is such a drag 08:35 Lynxx LOL i'm sorry typed that half asleep xD 08:35 Peacock lol 08:35 Peacock i thought you were telling us to go to bed lol 08:35 jojoa1997 Lynxx you get to stick with my crazy sleep deprived self for the rest of the day. ;-) 08:35 jojoa1997 Og 08:35 jojoa1997 Oh 08:35 jojoa1997 Postocular 08:36 Peacock post-op? 08:36 jojoa1997 Ockeghem 08:36 Lynxx been checking out camera.cpp for 3 days and can't figure out how to make changes to the game... i'm tired DX 08:36 Peacock who's a woman now? 08:36 jojoa1997 What is camera.cpp 08:36 Lynxx wat? 08:36 jojoa1997 O:-) 08:37 Lynxx it's in minetest main... 08:37 Peacock it controls the view 08:37 jojoa1997 So when will we get 3rd person veiw 08:37 Peacock never 08:37 Peacock if you push for it you'll just end up leaving again lol 08:38 jojoa1997 When will we get client side skin loadibg 08:38 jojoa1997 What? 08:38 Lynxx triying to edit that to make the wield hand look biger when i put my custom wield hand texture but i just fail 08:39 jojoa1997 I left due to PilzAdam through all my hard work out of the window just cause he didn't like how I gave credit. 08:39 jojoa1997 Throwing out 08:39 Peacock well yeah but if you ask for features that are too challenging ittl just lead to another argument and break 08:39 jojoa1997 At least use my redstone 08:39 jojoa1997 No I made it 08:40 Peacock in any case, most people play their own games now 08:40 jojoa1997 Nope he was lazy and when he saw how much people liked it (due to my work 08:40 jojoa1997 ) 08:40 Peacock minetest_game = newbs 08:41 jojoa1997 He decided I should do this myself 08:41 Peacock no need to get into that again :P its been 3 months? 08:41 jojoa1997 Yeah 08:41 Peacock yeah, let sleeping dogs lie 08:41 jojoa1997 I am making a new mod now 08:41 jojoa1997 Wanna hear about it 08:41 Peacock just make sure you post screenshots :P 08:42 Peacock so many mods with no friggin screens, irritating lol 08:42 Lynxx o.o what's the name? 08:42 jojoa1997 well i am making it in around 34 minutes 08:42 jojoa1997 but 08:42 jojoa1997 it is pretty much 08:43 jojoa1997 i have ore plants that you can get something out of 08:43 jojoa1997 and then you use the essance to either make modifiers or base items 08:43 jojoa1997 the base items make the ore and the modifiers you add to tools to do something 08:44 Lynxx modifiers as in? 08:44 Lynxx oh 08:44 jojoa1997 diamond plant give diamond essence 08:44 Lynxx like making upgrades? 08:44 jojoa1997 which gives a diamond modifier 08:44 jojoa1997 yeah 08:44 Lynxx cool 08:44 jojoa1997 which makes a better sword 08:44 jojoa1997 like dimaond plated picks with are stone picks with diamond stips 08:45 jojoa1997 so a fater pick withh less abillitieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees 08:45 jojoa1997 Gtg 09:00 Peacock lol @ attempt to grief with fake fire 09:18 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Pi Approximation Day! :-D 09:19 webdesigner97 hi 09:55 DanDuncombe There is someone on the forums who is planning on making a zombie survival server. The problem is they seem to spawn anywhere so I have suggested people to be designated as guards. I was thinking, would it be possible for someone to make guard NPCs that wander around and attack any zombies they see, while also being attacked by the zombies. 10:00 DanDuncombe This is the topic page https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6656 10:20 proller 04:50:49: ACTION[ServerThread]: akhh times out. 10:20 proller 100+ bots 10:28 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, your namemeans Mushroom Adam. Why? 10:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:30 DanDuncombe Also, what does the 'math' mapgen do? 10:32 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, stop posting google translated things in the forum 10:32 PilzAdam just stop it, you just look dumb 10:32 DanDuncombe Sorry 10:33 DanDuncombe Does it not ,make sense? 10:35 DanDuncombe Okay, just tried mgv7 and all I can find is one huge stone biome. No dirt or trees anywhere. 10:41 DanDuncombe Buggy water http://i.imgur.com/ew4fWTK.png 10:55 proller use liquid_finite=1 10:56 proller math - fractal generated worlds 10:56 PilzAdam proller, then you have even more buggy water 10:56 MasterBot Thats ICE! 10:56 PilzAdam doesnt fix the problem 10:56 DanDuncombe Not ice 10:56 proller PilzAdam, much less buggy! 10:56 DanDuncombe I hate mgv7 10:56 MasterBot I dont 10:56 MasterBot I dont kknow what it is 10:57 DanDuncombe It is nothing but stone with no dirt or trees 10:57 MasterBot Im guessing Molesting Groping Vandal Version 7 ? 10:57 DanDuncombe MapGen Version 7 10:58 DanDuncombe Also, here are a couple of examples of math generated structures (Math mapgen) https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6664 11:04 nalkri Chat's done in the engine rather than in Lua, right? 11:04 nalkri And light propagation 11:07 PilzAdam Hi john_pony! 11:08 nalkri but I'm not a pony 11:08 nalkri Why must you shun me? 11:11 DanDuncombe In future versions of Minetest will light still shine through the corners between nodes? 11:15 MasterBot no 11:15 DanDuncombe How are you meant to survive in Mapgen V7? 11:18 MasterBot Same way anyone else can know 11:18 DanDuncombe What? 11:31 bas080 I love real bad angel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/835?source=cc 11:31 bas080 he fixed the lighting/shade issue 11:32 PilzAdam I hate real bad angel 11:32 PilzAdam he broke lighting 11:32 PilzAdam :-p 11:32 bas080 Shading looks so much better now for 6facedir 11:32 bas080 PilzAdam, I guess our standards of fixing differs 11:32 Calinou tomorrow: RBA implements nouveau reclocking 11:32 * Calinou runs 11:33 MasterBot ^^^^^And i cant make a joke without someone ruining it 11:36 PilzAdam bas080, well, breaking some code, waiting a month and then fixing it is enough for you to love me? 11:37 MasterBot I hate PilzAdam 11:37 MasterBot he broke Physics 11:53 Calinou no u 11:53 Calinou MasterBot: broke physics? 11:56 PilzAdam Calinou, I guess he cant control what he types 11:56 MasterBot TourettePhremia 12:21 nalkri` Is it just me or are elegant solutions to mesecon and technic wiring a bitch? 12:22 Calinou it's not that hard to make elegant wiring, probably easier than in MC 12:22 Calinou you can make mesecons into christmas decorations if you want :P 12:22 nalkri` I want it all hidden though, at least in my house 12:22 nalkri` I don't mind exposed lines in workshops 12:23 RealBadAngel hi all 12:24 PilzAdam hey 12:24 Calinou hi FakeGoodDevil 12:24 * Calinou runs 12:24 RealBadAngel hehe 12:24 RealBadAngel whats up? 12:24 PilzAdam actually Deamon would fit better than Devil 12:24 PilzAdam hes not RealBadGod 12:25 RealBadAngel but theres simple opposition angel vs devil 12:26 nalkri` (fall angel) or (rise daemon) 12:26 RealBadAngel anybody knows Heroes of Might and Magic series? 12:26 Calinou yes 12:26 RealBadAngel im a fan of it, especially III 12:26 nalkri` Good games 12:27 nalkri` III with the expansions 12:27 nalkri` Heroes of Mine and Test? 12:27 RealBadAngel im still playin HoMM3 12:27 nalkri` I might install it again :) 12:27 RealBadAngel and i mean online 12:28 RealBadAngel you want to face 3rd player of Poland? 12:28 nalkri` right now I want to build my house :) 12:28 RealBadAngel also in TOH i was rather well ranked 12:29 RealBadAngel first ten 12:29 RealBadAngel circa 250-300 games played per season 12:30 RealBadAngel for the ranking of course 12:35 RealBadAngel http://www.toheroes.com/history/season5/emperor.html 12:35 RealBadAngel im there somwhere below ;) 12:36 RealBadAngel most of the loses because of Wuderior from the 1st place 12:36 RealBadAngel we played hot seats, and hes a lucky bastard :) 12:47 ruskie yay 12:50 MasterBot yay 12:50 Calinou yey 12:50 MasterBot gay 12:51 Calinou john_minetest: now, fart on the moon for 50 bonus points. 13:03 Zeg9 Since when does the forum use https ? o.o 13:09 * john_minetest will fly to ecuador soon 13:20 RealBadAngel God speed 13:52 BlockMen hi 13:53 Exio4 hi 14:41 Ego Changed port and yet people are still logging on to my non-publicly listed server... wat 14:41 Ego Where are these being announced? 14:42 PilzAdam people save it in their favorites 14:42 PilzAdam so they always try to connect to the old port 14:44 nalkri` john_minetest: suborbital? 14:45 proller Ego, http://servers.minetest.net/ ? 14:45 nalkri` Awesom! 14:45 nalkri` +e 14:46 PilzAdam john_minetest, KSP doesnt work for me :-( 14:47 Ego Yep, definitely being announced there, Proller, how do I stop that from occuring? 14:47 proller server_announce = 0 14:47 Ego I have that set in my .conf.. 14:50 Ego http://i.imgur.com/cd0cCQP.png 14:50 Ego Yet it shows up in public list.. 14:50 Ego Halp wat do 14:51 proller server reports something like 18:47:51: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net ?? 14:53 proller maybe server_announce duplicated? 14:53 Ego It never says that in the debug, yet there it is on the public servers list. =/ 15:06 Zeg9 http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1374505558.png 15:07 * Jordach wonders if that is Mind-Mu 15:07 Jordach mi* 15:07 Zeg9 nop, this is minetest_game 15:08 Jordach less blur, more sharp 15:08 Jordach sfan5, move this to modding general https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101341#p101341 15:10 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:10 Calinou hi rubenwardy 15:10 Jordach hey rubenwardy two days of school leftr 15:10 Jordach -r 15:10 Jordach been playing monopoly today, i own the top end, as usual 15:11 rubenwardy I broke up almost 2 months ago 15:11 rubenwardy yr 11 15:11 Jordach lucky 15:12 Jordach although most of the time i have been finishing off tidbits and playing board games 15:14 jojoa1997 hello 15:20 Zeg9 Jordach, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1374506358.png 15:20 Jordach MOAR SHARP 15:20 Calinou the way images are loaded is weird 15:20 Calinou it's... pixelized while you load it 15:20 Zeg9 this is called interpolation 15:20 Zeg9 Adam7 :-p 15:22 pitriss Please i want to know something about pipe mod.. I want to put some automation into crafting.. Do I need "filter" after every autocrafter? 15:22 Zeg9 yes, you do. 15:23 Zeg9 Use blinky plants if you don't want to trigger them by hand everytime ;-) 15:23 pitriss oh okay, ty. 15:24 pitriss Zeg9: I found better solution (and faster) not gate... if you connect that you make "short circuit" then it is generating pulses:D 15:24 rubenwardy https://koding.com/ is amazing 15:25 Zeg9 pitriss, I know about that, but they stop every time you restart the server 15:25 Zeg9 in this case you should add a button, so you can start them again :p 15:25 pitriss Zeg9: TY for tip:D 15:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/hkDPlRA.png <- my second time texturing in aseprite 15:29 OldCoder R 15:29 OldCoder Looks good 15:29 Jordach anyone up for a toony sort of tp 15:31 Jordach hello rotor112 15:31 rotor112 hi 15:31 DanDuncombe Help https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 15:31 Calinou 6667 nice try :P 15:32 rotor112 I used it last time 15:32 Jordach err what 15:32 DanDuncombe What 15:32 * Jordach points at Calinou 15:32 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6666 15:32 Calinou quite outdated signature :P 15:33 DanDuncombe It wasn't meant to mean anything by 6667 15:33 rotor112 object:is_player() 15:33 jojoa1997 back 15:33 Jordach ^ spammer 15:33 PilzAdam front 15:33 DanDuncombe how fo I change it so it is all entities but items though? 15:33 jojoa1997 me? 15:34 Jordach not items, or just applied to itms 15:34 Jordach items* 15:34 DanDuncombe Not items 15:34 Jordach okay, now we know 15:34 rotor112 for _, object in pairs(minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius({x = pos.x, y = pos.y+0.5, z = pos.z}, .5)) do 15:34 Calinou PilzAdam: sides 15:34 Calinou jojoa1997: wb :) 15:34 PilzAdam oh fuck 15:35 jojoa1997 what 15:35 DanDuncombe I mean, what do I change to that one line? 15:35 PilzAdam I violated rule 1: "Never show up if jojoa1997 is arround" 15:35 jojoa1997 Calinou thanks 15:35 * jojoa1997 evily laughs 15:35 jojoa1997 also why that rule 15:35 Calinou PilzAdam: no that's rule 33 15:35 foka Thank you for a wonderful game! I am enjoying Minetest 0.4.7 package from Debian, installed on Ubuntu. :-) 15:35 Calinou not the best practice ever, foka 15:35 Calinou but it works :P 15:35 foka ? 15:36 Calinou usually you shouldn't use debian packages on ubuntu 15:36 Calinou but most of the time it works 15:36 rotor112 I think obj can only be an object 15:36 * Jordach has 3,299 posts <- PilzAdam 15:36 foka Calinou: True, hehe. 15:36 jojoa1997 sweet i get a rule :P 15:36 PilzAdam Jordach, 2995 here 15:36 Jordach -1000 15:36 DanDuncombe So how do I cahnge it 15:36 Jordach posts = windows 95 15:36 PilzAdam we live in time of great changes 15:36 rotor112 !sfu Jordach 15:36 MinetestBot rotor112: No Results found 15:36 Jordach !sfu Jordach 15:36 MinetestBot Jordach: No Results found 15:36 Jordach !sfu jordach 15:36 MinetestBot Jordach: No Results found 15:36 jojoa1997 PilzAdam i can still catch up 15:36 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ !sfu broken 15:36 Jordach sfan5, ^ 15:37 rotor112 maybe because of https 15:37 Jordach MinetestBot! 15:37 MinetestBot Jordach! 15:37 jojoa1997 so far i went down two slots due to a 3 month absence 15:37 rotor112 MinetestBot! 15:37 MinetestBot rotor112! 15:37 DanDuncombe Please help guys 15:37 * Jordach suggets post rate cap on jojoa1997 15:37 * Calinou is backing up his /home to external HDD 15:37 Calinou (finally) 15:37 DanDuncombe MinetestBot! 15:37 MinetestBot DanDuncombe! 15:37 Ego disable_anticheat = false Is there for like, packet editors? 15:37 Jordach Calinou, \o/ 15:37 * jojoa1997 looks at who is #1 15:37 rotor112 this checks if it's an item if not object:is_player() and l and l.name == "__builtin:item" then 15:37 Jordach jojoa1997, who'd ya think 15:38 jojoa1997 yeah but you talk about rate cap 15:38 Ego Anyone know why a server would announce itself public regardless of server_announce = 0 being set in the conf? 15:38 Calinou then it isn't set up properly, make sure you only have one _uncommented_ entry of it 15:38 Jordach jojoa1997, fun fact, i dont actually post that often 15:38 Calinou commented is when it's preceded by a # 15:39 Ego I do only have one uncommented presence of it, there are no commented lines in my conf 15:39 jojoa1997 man it is good to be back. Minecraft might be a full game but the community is all worried about how many times their thing was downloaded and how they can get money from their server 15:39 Jordach only during late at night i start to post 15:39 DanDuncombe Please help 15:39 rotor112 Zeg9: I thought it's called interlace, not -polation 15:39 Calinou jojoa1997: true story *holds glass of wine* 15:39 jojoa1997 so Jordach you are always late up at night 15:39 Calinou same thing applies to mods and texture packs :P 15:39 Zeg9 rotor112: yeah, it's interlace 15:39 Calinou and this is why FOSS is good 15:39 jojoa1997 yeah 15:39 jojoa1997 and the adly/mediafire is a nightmare 15:39 Ego There are no commented lines in my conf, and only one server_announce, Calinou 15:40 jojoa1997 what is FOSS CAlinou? 15:40 DanDuncombe help please 15:40 Calinou free and open source software 15:40 rotor112 so you only don't want that obj is a node 15:41 Calinou jojoa1997: well, we have adblock, but you still have to wait a few seconds 15:41 jojoa1997 DanDunCube what is the problem 15:41 Ego Calinou, it also doesn't say it's announcing the server to public in the debug when it's starting the server. 15:41 rotor112 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 15:41 DanDuncombe Basically I am changing the turet mod's code and I want it to shoot players and mobs,not jjust players 15:41 PilzAdam Jordach, 2996 15:41 rotor112 for _, obj in pairs(minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius({x = pos.x, y = pos.y+0.5, z = pos.z}, .5)) do 15:42 jojoa1997 has anyone made a new mob mod 15:42 rotor112 try zmos 15:42 PilzAdam Jordach, 2997 15:42 rotor112 zmobs* 15:42 thefamilygrog66 I've messed around with PilzAdam's simplemobs quite a bit, to customize it for my server, but I wouldn't say it's a "new mob mod" 15:43 Jordach 3,200 PilzAdam 15:43 jojoa1997 i meant new monds 15:43 jojoa1997 thefamilygrog66 what is your server name 15:43 rotor112 try if not l.name == "__builtin:item" then 15:43 foka I have (re-?)started the Minetest page on Wikipedia. But I was surprised that it went through a "Delete" dispute before... Sad... 15:43 thefamilygrog66 it's not public (yet), jojoa1997 15:44 rotor112 sorry 15:44 foka I am new to Minetest, so please feel free to fix any errors you find on the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest 15:44 rotor112 if not obj:get_luaentity().name == "__builtin:item" then 15:44 DanDuncombe Okay, I have changed the code on the forum page to show the whole abm because I still don't know what to vhange 15:44 Zeg9 foka: Good luck not getting it deleted :P 15:44 nalkri` foka: for modding I'd use a sentence not a word 15:45 nalkri` Something like "Minetest supports extensive scripting and extensions via Lua" 15:45 Calinou >wikipedia minetest page 15:45 rotor112 DanDuncombe: or not obj:get_luaentity().name == "__builtin:item" then 15:45 * Calinou spins minigun 15:45 Calinou foka: your page is going to be hammered 15:45 Zeg9 DanDuncombe: or you can check if the entity's name starts with "animals" or "mob" 15:46 foka nalkri`: Thanks for catching that! I was using Wesnoth as a template, but did not know what to write (I am lazy, haha) 15:46 Calinou huh, what does minetest have to do with battle for wesnoth :P 15:46 jojoa1997 because BFW is amasing 15:46 jojoa1997 amazing 15:46 Calinou foka: sad? well, wikipedia's userbase is 25% of minecraft fanboys, 25% of mathematicians, 25% of bronies and 25% of ubuntu users 15:47 Jordach foka, 5$ if the wikipedia inbred minecraft fanboy's manage to delete the page 15:47 DanDuncombe Instead of saying in here pleaes say the code corrections on the forum page in the whole abm because I don't know eher to put that line 15:47 nalkri` foka: and "Minetest has its own offers..." isn't English, remove "has its own" 15:47 nalkri` "experiment with and extend" 15:47 nalkri` I should probably just figure out what my Wikipedia account is 15:47 Zeg9 foka: maybe define "infinite" (from -31000 to 31000 in all directions) 15:47 Calinou have fun defending your page, anyway 15:48 foka Calinou: Both are open-source, and both are great game. I also looked at Minecraft's page to copy some of the categories 15:48 Calinou it is going to be deleted because minetest isn't "notable". 15:48 DanDuncombe To make it easier can it apply to JUST mobs? 15:48 khonkhortisan minetest has its own offers, it might receive a dirt cube. 15:48 Calinou YET, it is more played than games like Red Eclipse. 15:48 foka By the way, is the original version of the page still around by any chance? 15:48 Calinou which ARE on wikipedia. 15:48 Calinou foka: it's not because it's a great game it'll stay on wikipedia 15:49 Zeg9 Let's fork wikipedia x) 15:50 jojoa1997 lol 15:50 Ego I take it you have no clue either, Calinou. 15:50 foka Calinou: Indeed, it just didn't seem fair. Who was that Mr. Stradivarius anyway? 15:50 thefamilygrog66 I tried creating a page for my recording project, which has been released on vinyl and CD in various countries around the world, and wikipedia removed it as well - jerks. 15:50 Calinou Ego: I don't :/ 15:50 Jordach \o/ http://i.imgur.com/AzLXYVN.jpg someone plays with moretrees with fancy trees on 15:50 Calinou foka: no idea 15:51 jojoa1997 is there a way to define biuomes 15:51 Calinou I do Jordach :P 15:51 Calinou biuomes? no 15:51 Calinou biomes? yes 15:51 jojoa1997 i remmember somone makiung something ages ago 15:51 Zeg9 Jordach: I want to know the fps 15:51 jojoa1997 biomes 15:51 Zeg9 jojoa1997: yes 15:51 jojoa1997 hwo 15:51 jojoa1997 how 15:51 Zeg9 jojoa1997 https://github.com/Zeg9/mind-mi/blob/master/mods/ground/init.lua#L34 15:51 Jordach jojoa1997, Zeg9: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=55526#p55526 15:52 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=55395#p55395 * 15:52 rotor112 I know a leaves node which uses glasslike 15:52 Jordach peh 15:52 jojoa1997 PilzAdam you should get someone who has played minecraft to help you with MiniTest 15:52 Jordach <- has 15:53 * rotor112 not 15:53 PilzAdam jojoa1997, I have played Minecraft 15:53 jojoa1997 you bought it? 15:53 jojoa1997 i thought you didnt 15:53 PilzAdam of course not 15:54 * DanDuncombe plays Minecraft sometimes and has bought it 15:54 jojoa1997 i meant who plays it regularly 15:54 DanDuncombe I play it quite often 15:54 DanDuncombe I can't remember all the details though 15:54 DanDuncombe Just look at the Mc wiki 15:54 jojoa1997 DanDuncombe what server 15:54 Zeg9 I played minecraft a lot then got bored 15:54 DanDuncombe What server??? 15:55 * jojoa1997 confusion muwhahaha 15:55 DanDuncombe I normally played singleplayer... 15:55 jojoa1997 oh 15:55 Zeg9 I hosted a server and even made a few bukkit plugins :-P 15:55 jojoa1997 well i do too but just use servers for minigames 15:55 BlockMen Bye 15:55 jojoa1997 Zeg is it still there 15:56 Zeg9 jojoa1997: nop (self-hosting) 15:56 jojoa1997 oh 15:56 Zeg9 We made so much worlds and used so much plugins there, it was taking 2GB ram and 1 entire CPU core :P 15:57 jojoa1997 PilzAdam when will you add carts to minetest_game 15:57 foka Thank you, Zeg9 and nalkri`, for your corrections and suggestions! 15:57 Zeg9 no problem 15:57 nalkri` Do mobs work, when I played before simplemobs caused all sorts of issues 15:58 khonkhortisan when carts stay on track 15:58 jojoa1997 guys i have an idea 15:58 DanDuncombe what is it 15:58 jojoa1997 we should add a forge mod and have all the mods either go into one filk or zipped files in a mods folder 15:58 jojoa1997 file 15:59 PilzAdam jojoa1997, you sound like an idiot if you say "guys i have an idea" 15:59 * jojoa1997 was being sarcastic 15:59 khonkhortisan so you don't have an idea? 15:59 jojoa1997 actually i do 15:59 jojoa1997 but that is for a mod i am making 16:00 Zeg9 loading zip'ped mods would be better as a change to the engine y'know 16:00 Zeg9 I can't imagine implementing a lua .zip reader :-D 16:00 PilzAdam inb4 modmanager steps in 16:00 jojoa1997 why loading zip mods 16:00 jojoa1997 though how does this new mods.minetest.net work 16:01 Zeg9 WHO THE HECK ALLOWED .RAR THERE 16:01 PilzAdam Zeg9, your capslock is on 16:01 Zeg9 I know. I got mad, sorry. 16:03 * Jordach might throw .rar in there 16:03 DanDuncombe I managed to make the thing shoot mobs but now it doesn't damage them. 16:04 DanDuncombe fixed 16:05 rotor112 DanDuncombe: you can't easily get their position 16:05 rotor112 can you? 16:06 Zeg9 rotor: why not? 16:06 rotor112 ok.. will you edit the exchange mod? https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-exchange 16:07 Zeg9 I don't think so, feel free to fork it :-) 16:08 jojoa1997 i saw in the api.txt "- nodebox -- See below. EXPERIMENTAL" how is nodebox still experimental 16:12 PilzAdam MinetestBot, spam pls 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix enable mod/enable button not shown on entering world config dialog 4f3bc05a5b 2013-07-22T09:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/G-B5JA 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix bug in world creation b3db44f801 2013-07-22T09:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/SHaGgw 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add missing header/footer for singleplayer tab 4e2b394ae8 2013-07-22T09:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/FuoXKQ 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Remove debug output e7ba4777fe 2013-07-22T09:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/YdhSaA 16:13 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ 16:13 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op MinetestBot 16:13 rotor112 hi, MinetestBot 16:13 DanDuncombe Now I need help with something else https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101413#p101413 16:14 rotor112 such a mod already exists 16:15 DanDuncombe It is based on the turret mod but I need to make it actually kill mobs- now it shoots them not the player but doesn't do them damage 16:16 rotor112 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3836 16:16 rotor112 the video is broken 16:17 thefamilygrog66 you still here, jojoa1997? 16:17 jojoa1997 yes 16:17 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Disable gamemanager by default a38f8d9900 2013-07-22T09:16:36-07:00 http://git.io/Sa544A 16:17 Calinou DanDuncombe: jordan4ibanez is banned, he won't answer 16:17 DanDuncombe The whole point is, this is that mod- except it kills mobs not players 16:17 Calinou but since he didn't specify a license, it means "no" 16:17 thefamilygrog66 I pasted my modified version of instabuild here: 16:17 thefamilygrog66 http://pastebin.com/CbkGm3bk 16:17 thefamilygrog66 it's there for an hour 16:18 DanDuncombe Why thefamilygrog66? 16:18 jojoa1997 tjhanks 16:18 jojoa1997 thanks 16:19 DanDuncombe And my mod won't be the same as jordan4ibanez's one- mine has different shape, textures and puropose. 16:19 thefamilygrog66 DanDuncombe, jojoa1997 wanted to see how I modded that mod... 16:19 DanDuncombe Modded what mod? 16:19 thefamilygrog66 instabuild 16:19 rotor112 the textures don't look different 16:19 DanDuncombe Also you know that is an illegal version 16:19 DanDuncombe rotor112 my textures for turrets are different. 16:20 jojoa1997 DanDuncombe in the world of opensource when you borrow code from others it still matters what the license is 16:20 thefamilygrog66 illegal whatnow? 16:20 jojoa1997 i think 16:20 rotor112 I meant the instabuild 16:20 DanDuncombe I made the instabuild mod,turnsout it was illegal so sfan5 gave me the modified legal version that used worldedit api instead of stolen code. 16:21 DanDuncombe He said I could license it under CC-By-SA 16:21 rotor112 and this is stolen, too https://github.com/HybridDog/nuke 16:21 DanDuncombe Is that the nuke mod ? 16:21 jojoa1997 say PilzAdam will you ever add switches into the carts mod again 16:21 rotor112 it was 16:22 DanDuncombe Can anyone help me with my version of turret mod? 16:22 rotor112 now it's a changed nuke mod 16:22 thefamilygrog66 DanDuncombe, that's why I'd requested my instacabin mod (based on "stolen" code, as you put it) post removed from the forums 16:22 DanDuncombe My instabuild mod is legal though now 16:23 thefamilygrog66 that's great 16:23 DanDuncombe It doesn't use stolen Worldedit code. The pastebin you just made is of an old version. 16:23 DanDuncombe that was illegal. 16:23 thefamilygrog66 if you say so 16:23 DanDuncombe Ask sfan5 if you must. 16:23 thefamilygrog66 I've already been through this, man 16:24 DanDuncombe Been through what? 16:24 thefamilygrog66 the whole licensing thing - as I mentioned, I didn't want to upset anyone, so I requested my mod be removed from the forum 16:25 DanDuncombe Basically: My mod is now legal and is licensed under CC-By-SA. It has a Worldedit Dependency. thefamilygrog66 is credited with original idea. Full Stop. 16:25 thefamilygrog66 sure, that's fine - 16:25 DanDuncombe You are credited with the idea you know. 16:25 rotor112 but this is stolen https://github.com/HybridDog/nuke 16:26 thefamilygrog66 that's cool, though instacabin doesn't exist on the forums anymore 16:26 DanDuncombe It looks like it is. 16:26 DanDuncombe thefamilygrog66: Do you have a github account? 16:26 thefamilygrog66 yep 16:26 DanDuncombe Do you want to maybe help me add more buildings to Instabuild? It is now on Github... 16:27 DanDuncombe You can be co-developer :) 16:28 DanDuncombe Also, can anyone help me with making my version of the turret mod actually hurt mobs? 16:29 thefamilygrog66 haha, I'd rather just play around with code than design buildings 16:30 thefamilygrog66 btw, the modified version I posted on pastebin removes all the recipes, it just randomly spawns structures, sort of like villages - that's the part that jojoa1997 wanted to see 16:30 DanDuncombe Yep. 16:30 DanDuncombe As it's an abm though wouldn't the world gradually be 'overgrown' with buildings? 16:31 rotor112 I waited for an answer http://bit.ly/1dQ5XUa 16:31 thefamilygrog66 exactly, hence the 10 minute interval, and 3000 chance... 16:31 DanDuncombe And can someone please help with the turret mod? 16:31 DanDuncombe It will be an addition to my camo Modpack 16:32 DanDuncombe I may also recommend it for the guy trying to make a zombie survival server 16:32 thefamilygrog66 strangely enough, it tends to lump the structures together like villages 16:32 jojoa1997 who awoke me 16:32 DanDuncombe PLEASE can someone help? 16:32 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 16:33 jojoa1997 has RBA made a way to allow mods to work like inventory plus 16:33 thefamilygrog66 I see you used my registration loop for instabuild, DanDuncombe 16:33 DanDuncombe I basically get my machine gun noise and can see it shooting the mob but no damage is done. 16:34 thefamilygrog66 kaeza would be the guy, I think 16:34 thefamilygrog66 I haven't looked at his firearms code at all 16:34 DanDuncombe It supposedly damages the entities but just doesn't 16:34 DanDuncombe It can't even kill rats 16:35 thefamilygrog66 damned rats 16:35 thefamilygrog66 is it based on firearms at all? 16:35 DanDuncombe Do 16:35 DanDuncombe *no 16:35 DanDuncombe If you see in the code it should damage all entities except players. 16:35 thefamilygrog66 in that case, you might want to take a look at the code for that one, to see what kaeza did 16:35 DanDuncombe I will do now. 16:36 DanDuncombe Will be afk for a bit. 16:37 * MinetestBot ist weiblich 16:37 PilzAdam ooops 16:37 thefamilygrog66 haha 16:37 DanDuncombe Firearms was un helpful 16:38 thefamilygrog66 MinetestBot is a lady? 16:39 thefamilygrog66 maybe PilzAdam can help, Dan 16:40 DanDuncombe PilzAdam: Can you please help with this? It won't damage any of your simplemobs mobs.https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 16:41 jojoa1997 where is the enable all mods button 16:41 thexyz wtf why would you put spam in quit message 16:41 jojoa1997 what? 16:41 thefamilygrog66 has anyone notice graphical issues with the latest daily build? 16:41 jojoa1997 i forgot i had a quit message 16:42 thefamilygrog66 *noticed 16:42 PenguinDad I think he means rotor112. 16:42 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, with water? 16:42 thexyz yes 16:42 PilzAdam jojoa1997, the enable all button is at the top right 16:43 thefamilygrog66 with everything PilzAdam, at least yesterday's build - it didn't seem to matter which server I was on, there were bizarre "bars" of colour seemingly emanating from my player 16:43 thefamilygrog66 vector-like, hard to explain 16:44 thefamilygrog66 when I would rotate, they "fanned out", so to speak 16:44 PenguinDad That's your aura :D 16:44 thefamilygrog66 my aura is like broken glass, apparently! 16:45 PenguinDad Just kidding 16:45 DanDuncombe PLease can someone help with the turret 16:46 jojoa1997 in technic how do i get enrgy from a water mill 16:46 PenguinDad jojoa1997: have you latest git of technic? 16:47 jojoa1997 technic game 16:47 jojoa1997 found out 16:47 jojoa1997 must place wire under mill 16:47 Ego Anyone know how to make mobs able to destroy blocks? 16:47 DanDuncombe PLease can someone help with the turret mod?!?! 16:55 hdastwb Ego: the only destructive mobs that I know of are boombombs and dungeon masters; in terms of how to make something destroy things in mods, use minetest.remove_node(pos) or the new VoxelManip thing 16:58 DanDuncombe Please can someone help??????? 16:58 bas080 Whatsup DanDuncombe? 16:59 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 16:59 bas080 A turret, cool! 16:59 DanDuncombe It just wom't hurt the mobs 17:00 bas080 but it will hurt players? 17:00 DanDuncombe No, no, no, it should kill mobs, and avoid players. I will make a seperate player- killing one 17:01 DanDuncombe It just somehow doesn't injure them. 17:01 jojoa1997 anyone here good with pipeworks 17:02 DanDuncombe Kind of 17:03 Ego Sounds good, Hdastwb, thanks. I want to make my zombies tear down houses to get to ya! 17:03 DanDuncombe My mod will soon hopefully KILL YOUR ZOMBIES! 17:04 bas080 Did you check the self.timer value? 17:04 DanDuncombe Does anyone have a solution to my turret problem 17:04 DanDuncombe I tried changing it and nothing happened. 17:04 bas080 Maybe it stays stuck at time 0 or 1 17:05 bas080 ok 17:05 bas080 Why not remove that completely as you do not need to check for that as the turret is a node 17:06 bas080 Or do you have an entity for the turret turning head? 17:06 DanDuncombe No the turret is a node. 17:07 DanDuncombe Which self.timer do you mean? 17:07 bas080 the one on line 70 17:08 jojoa1997 what is this CPD stuff in the server list 17:08 bas080 I think the only function of the timer is to avoid hitting the player that shoots the arrow 17:08 DanDuncombe The node shoots the arrows 17:09 DanDuncombe at mobs.The player is completely ignored because if the if not 17:11 bas080 " if not obj:is_player() then" that should be good 17:12 DanDuncombe That bit does work. I tried it. 17:12 DanDuncombe It shoots any entity that isn't a player. 17:12 PilzAdam Jordach, 2999 17:13 PilzAdam what should I do now? 17:13 bas080 have you defined ARROW_DAMAGE? 17:14 DanDuncombe Yep 17:14 DanDuncombe ARROW_DAMAGE = 6 17:14 bas080 is it a value larger then 0 17:14 bas080 ok 17:14 DanDuncombe I can't see what the problem is. 17:14 DanDuncombe ARROW_VELOCITY = 4 is the speed of the bullet. 17:15 pandaro PilzAdam can you find me a job (paid position) 17:15 PilzAdam hm? 17:15 bas080 are you sure self.timer is larger then 1 once it is near the mob? 17:15 pandaro Adam I need a job. 17:16 DanDuncombe It is currentlyat 0.2 17:16 PilzAdam pandaro, and why do you ask me then? 17:16 pandaro you ask:" what should I do now?" 17:17 DanDuncombe I can see the bullet fly through the air and hit the mob. 17:17 PilzAdam I asked Jordach 17:17 pandaro sorry 17:17 bas080 but unless self.timer is not larger then 1 it will not damage the mob 17:17 bas080 Remove the if self.timer>1 then ... end 17:17 bas080 and i think it should work 17:18 DanDuncombe I then get a failed to run init.lua 17:19 Pentium44 so, PilzAdam, where is this mod database that is being created??? 17:19 Pentium44 I would like to see it 17:19 bas080 DanDuncombe, debug it then and let me know if it works 17:20 DanDuncombe bas080 The mod loads in game just doesn't hurt mobs 17:20 DanDuncombe It fires the bullets and everything 17:20 bas080 DanDuncombe, private chat? 17:20 PilzAdam Pentium44, dunno, ask iqualfragile 17:21 Pentium44 mkay 17:31 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6667 17:35 Pentium44 wow... 17:37 PilzAdam Jordach, 3000 17:38 PilzAdam I officially have no life anymore 17:39 Pentium44 PilzAdam, when you start minetest, you cannot stop :D 17:41 jojoa1997 good bulk of PilzAdams post = Kill all newbies 17:41 jojoa1997 jk :P 17:41 Pentium44 most likely :P 17:51 jojoa1997 would it be possible to make the server list show how many people are on 17:52 Calinou jojoa1997: http://servers.minetest.net 17:52 Calinou it is currently unavailable in menu 17:52 PilzAdam ehm 17:53 Calinou wow 17:53 Calinou 54 players playing? 17:53 Calinou that's way more than xonotic or red eclipse, or even sauerbraten 17:55 Calinou O_o background is broken in latest git? 17:55 Calinou it's just brown 17:55 Calinou oh player count appears now 17:55 PilzAdam have you clouds disabled? 17:55 Calinou jojoa1997: update to latest git 17:55 Calinou yes 17:56 Calinou that makes no sense to disable it just because you have clouds off... 17:56 Calinou oh there's a mod manager too! cool :D 17:56 PilzAdam well, if you disable clouds then there are no clouse 17:56 Calinou minetest logo is missing in credits, too 17:57 PilzAdam *clouds 17:57 PilzAdam not really 17:57 * Jordach laughs 17:57 Jordach SunriseTest has died 17:57 Jordach (well, a while ago when Host1Free went up the shitter!) 17:58 Calinou old news, Jordach 17:58 PilzAdam Jordach, there are now 2 people with >= 3000 posts 17:58 Calinou PilzAdam: the clouds appear in the loading screen 17:58 Calinou PilzAdam should work at canonical 17:58 Jordach PilzAdam, heh 18:05 * Jordach starts drawing some tools 18:11 jojoa1997 the mod manager needs work 18:11 jojoa1997 there is no select all for the mods 18:11 Calinou select ALL the mods 18:12 PilzAdam jojoa1997, there is 18:12 jojoa1997 there should be one button 18:12 jojoa1997 instead i have to do it by mod 18:25 Kacey hey anyone good at making textures? 18:30 Jordach hm? textures? 18:36 Kacey bbl 18:41 Jordach Sam II(?) in Aseprite: http://i.imgur.com/iiprD84.png 18:42 Jordach (fuck limited pallettes, had to take liberties) 18:42 Jordach but then there's the challenge, the pallette 18:42 Jordach hello OldCoder 18:43 Jordach ShadowNinja, does ShadowBot regain OP when it is lost? 18:43 OldCoder 18:43 Jordach OldCoder, you really need to sort these strange empty lines 18:43 PilzAdam yea, the empty lines are really annyoing 18:43 PilzAdam please stop it in this channel 18:44 * Jordach wonders if ShadowBot's flood detector is ticking as usual 18:44 Exio4 hi weird people 18:47 OldCoder Jordach, PilzAdam that is unreasonable. They are not strange and serve a purpose. They are not flooding or spam. 18:47 * OldCoder is also not clear about what the word "sort" means in this context. 18:47 OldCoder D: 18:47 * Calinou puts something to smelt in OldCoder's head 18:47 PilzAdam there is a reason why nobody else does it in IRC 18:48 PilzAdam this is not a document 18:48 OldCoder Grilled Cheese sandwich Calinou? And PilzAdam stop and think about what you are saying. It does not quite parse. 18:48 Jordach OldCoder, you running Perl in your head or something? 18:48 jojoa1997 fight 18:48 OldCoder Jordach, Perl. Hmm. 18:49 * OldCoder will consider the question. jojoa1997 hi! 18:49 jojoa1997 Hi OldCoder. Long time no see 18:49 OldCoder jojoa1997, I have been here all along. But able to chat a bit more for now. 18:50 OldCoder Also working on a new server. There is a ports issue being debugged. New server is fast enough to handle quite a lot. 18:50 jojoa1997 yeah but i have been gone for 3 months 18:50 OldCoder Ah. Welcome back then. 18:50 thexyz I remade main wiki page http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Xyz/Main_Page 18:50 OldCoder R 18:50 OldCoder Looks fine 18:50 PilzAdam thexyz, why blue? 18:51 jojoa1997 looks better 18:51 thexyz PilzAdam: http://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page 18:51 thexyz I didn't change any colors 18:51 jojoa1997 i think that minetest should code a recipe veiwer thing for minetest. and also have a key binded to it 18:51 Calinou LPGL => LGPL 18:52 jojoa1997 people might get lost on how to create stuff for mods 18:52 Calinou PilzAdam: minetest will soon reach 3000 commits :D github finally tells you exact amount at > 1000 18:52 Calinou jojoa1997: craft_guide 18:52 thexyz alright, I'll replace it then 18:52 jojoa1997 Calinou yeah crafting guide 18:53 jojoa1997 but with some mods i have to use a crafting guide which i dont like useing due to non user friendlyness just to know how to do something 18:53 jojoa1997 a guide in lua would be faster and can be key binded 18:53 thexyz now, how're we going to document things? 18:55 thexyz be it mods or modpacks 18:55 jojoa1997 what do you mean 18:56 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101462#p101462 epic BBCode skills 18:58 PilzAdam Jordach, 3001 18:59 jojoa1997 oh please 18:59 jojoa1997 PilzAdam go buy yourself a prize for reaching a worthless goal 18:59 Calinou better than graphitemaster's goal 18:59 thexyz jojoa1997: how should we structurize information about mods 19:00 jojoa1997 what do yuo mean info 19:00 Jordach jojoa1997 vs PilzAdam 19:00 * Jordach eats popcorn 19:00 PilzAdam !kick jojoa1997 I win 19:00 Calinou Mods/Mod Name/Node Name? 19:00 * PilzAdam eats the rest of Jordach's popcorn 19:00 thexyz Calinou: that's way too much, don't you think? 19:00 jojoa1997 and i am back 19:01 thexyz writing about each and every node 19:01 Calinou that's true 19:01 Calinou most nodes are decorative, or have a small use that can be explained quickly 19:01 Calinou a single page Mods/Mod Name which groups all the nodes/items/crafts could be enough, if done well 19:02 Calinou but this is harder to apply to the default game :P 19:02 jojoa1997 thexyz you mean for my craftguide idea 19:02 thexyz well, it should be Mod:Default, not Mods/Default 19:02 Calinou usually MW namespaces are / 19:02 nalkri Why not just put docstrings into the definitions and have a system to query them in game? 19:02 thexyz Calinou: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespaces 19:02 Calinou nvm 19:02 thexyz > Namespaces are indicated in page titles by prefixing the page name with "namespace:" 19:02 thexyz I was surprised as well 19:02 Calinou didn't know you could create your own namespaces 19:03 jojoa1997 maybe there could be a secondary description string in minetest for information about items 19:03 thexyz Calinou: well it should be configured in localsettings.php 19:04 thexyz the main problem is that current wiki assumes user uses minetest_game 19:05 thexyz it also tries to mimic minecraft wiki 19:05 jojoa1997 maybe for every game in the games section on the forum the wiki could make a page 19:06 jojoa1997 and on the side there could be a tab that you choose what game you are in' 19:08 thexyz jojoa1997: that's quite interesting idea 19:08 thexyz jojoa1997: but then how should this "game" page look like? 19:08 thexyz like, you chose a game, now what? 19:08 jojoa1997 i said it wrong 19:08 jojoa1997 actually ncvm 19:08 jojoa1997 nvm 19:08 jojoa1997 wait 19:09 jojoa1997 um maybe in the game section there could be a page for all the tools and one for all the items 19:09 jojoa1997 the maker of the game could choose what goes where but you see the basics 19:10 jojoa1997 for the tools you could just read the minetest.register_tool and see what the groups are 19:10 thexyz games consist of mods so it's more natural to create a page for each mod, then link to those from game's page 19:11 jojoa1997 i was thinking have a template for each game 19:11 jojoa1997 and maybe those who want to add a game to the games section could fill out a template and request to be added 19:11 thexyz having slightly/completely different template for each game isn't that bad 19:12 thexyz it'll be easier to determine what game are you looking at 19:12 jojoa1997 yeah 19:12 thexyz it'll also make those somewhat unique 19:12 jojoa1997 i mean stuff like a list of mods in and the name should all be in one spot 19:12 thexyz john_minetest: don't think there's a need for addon 19:13 thexyz so, game page just lists all mods, has short description & screenshots, right? 19:14 thexyz well life is unfair 19:14 OldCoder PilzAdam go buy yourself a prize for reaching a worthless goal 19:14 jojoa1997 ? 19:14 OldCoder Civility is good. PilzAdam that is something you ought to remember too. 19:14 OldCoder Just making a point. 19:14 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi. Still working on a ports issue with my new server. 19:15 jojoa1997 yes but the game page should have some differences 19:15 OldCoder But all the files are there and seem to be healthy. 19:15 jojoa1997 thexyz the reason i say there should be a template is because many people like me dont know web code or wiki code 19:16 jojoa1997 i can only edit words really the rest is hyroglifics 19:16 thexyz john_minetest: I think it should work this way — you go to minetest_game page and copy everything 19:16 jojoa1997 no 19:16 jojoa1997 then what is the point 19:17 thexyz alright, what do you mean by "template" then? 19:17 jojoa1997 like web templates 19:17 thexyz unclear 19:17 thexyz elaborate 19:17 jojoa1997 a box for the game name 19:18 jojoa1997 one for a description 19:18 thexyz oh, like mediawiki template? 19:18 jojoa1997 and then one column they can choose between pics, a mod list, or ddescribing some stuff 19:18 thexyz meh 19:18 jojoa1997 idk what mediawiki is but maybe 19:18 jojoa1997 one sec 19:18 thexyz that's way too structured 19:19 jojoa1997 one sec 19:20 jojoa1997 ok kinda but more lentient... 19:20 jojoa1997 like say they wanted to add a circle they could 19:20 jojoa1997 and type stuff in 19:20 jojoa1997 and you could move the boxes around 19:21 thexyz that's shit 19:21 jojoa1997 wait i cant explain 19:21 thexyz how about coding it? 19:21 thexyz then it won't be as flexible as mediawiki syntax is 19:22 jojoa1997 nope dont know wiki code or whatever it is 19:22 jojoa1997 let me find an example 19:25 jojoa1997 kind of like the youtube layout i think might be good\ 19:26 jojoa1997 the channel layouts 19:27 jojoa1997 https://github.com/minetest/ 19:27 jojoa1997 that could be the page where you decide what game to look at 19:27 jojoa1997 name desc and maybe the icon for the game 19:28 jojoa1997 and 19:28 thexyz still, guys, that's not the most important thing to decide 19:28 jojoa1997 http://www.youtube.com/user/313hummer 19:28 jojoa1997 the face spot would be game icon 19:28 jojoa1997 screenshot behind it' 19:28 jojoa1997 name desc below 19:28 thexyz and I'm against this anyway 19:29 jojoa1997 why? 19:29 jojoa1997 oh 19:29 DanDuncombe Do you think someone should improve realtest game? 19:29 jojoa1997 what is the most inportant thing to decide then? 19:30 thexyz how to structure stuff, not how to display it 19:30 jojoa1997 yeah the structures 19:31 thexyz especially since there are mod names collisions 19:32 jojoa1997 what do you mean 19:32 thexyz there are multiple mods that share the same name 19:32 thexyz animals, for example 19:33 thexyz http://mods.minetest.ru/animals/ | http://mods.minetest.ru/animals_%28PilzAdam%29/ 19:33 jojoa1997 so one is Animals PilzAdam and the other animals 19:34 thexyz but shouldn't first be animals_sapier and second animals? 19:34 jojoa1997 no cause it is how thay put it up 19:35 thexyz both are called "animals" 19:35 jojoa1997 Index of /animals_(PilzAdam)/ 19:35 jojoa1997 Index of /animals/ 19:35 jojoa1997 not really 19:37 thexyz that's just how I named it 19:39 jojoa1997 bbl 20:04 Calinou 1337 topics in general discussion 20:05 Calinou or, actually: 1337 +op; 20:53 Calinou capture raw usb data? 20:59 DanDuncombe Is there any way of only letting an abm for mymod:mynode run when mymod:othernode is 1 node beneath it? 20:59 PilzAdam yes 21:00 DanDuncombe How? 21:00 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_abm 21:00 MinetestBot "minetest.register_abm(abm_defintion_table) [edit] Description The Active Block Modifier consists of a function that is executed at a specific interval for single nodes." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_abm 21:00 DanDuncombe Thanks! 21:01 DanDuncombe Is it possible to make it so it has to be beneath, not just anywhere touching? 21:02 PilzAdam of course, just check the name of the node in the function 21:03 DanDuncombe DO I add y=-1 or anything to do it? 21:04 PilzAdam ehm... of course you need some basic understanding of programming to code a mod... 21:05 DanDuncombe Yes, I have made mods, I am just not sure how to implement the y=-1 bit 21:05 DanDuncombe I don't use ABMs much. 21:10 Arkmabat Magic beanstalk? 21:12 Kacey anyone here good with making textures? i need someone to make some for me... mine are beyond derpy 21:12 DanDuncombe What for? 21:13 Calinou night everyone :) 21:13 Kacey night Calinou 21:13 Kacey (its 15:15 here) 21:14 * Calinou disappears behind a S3TC-compressed floating-point texture 21:14 DanDuncombe Can anyone help with the abm? 21:20 jojoa1997 Kaceybye everyone 21:20 jojoa1997 bye everyone 21:29 DanDuncombe Is there any way of only letting an abm for mymod:mynode run when mymod:othernode is 1 node beneath it? 21:29 Peacock take your pos with pos.y - 1 and check the node/name underneth 21:30 marktraceur You can also use neighbors to do a first pass check 21:30 Peacock but neighbours doesn't mean it's underneath 21:30 Peacock just near 21:30 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, you already asked the question 21:31 PilzAdam and I already answered 21:31 DanDuncombe I didn't get a full answer tough 21:31 DanDuncombe *though 21:31 DanDuncombe So how? 21:31 DanDuncombe What do I add where? I am not used to abm,like I said 21:32 DanDuncombe You will get virtual cupcakes for a good answer 21:32 Peacock if minetest.env:get_node(x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z).name ~= 'mod:othernode' then return end 21:32 * DanDuncombe gives Peacock virtualcupcakes 21:33 Peacock lol 21:33 Peacock like the glasses on a lady's head 21:35 Peacock dont feel so bad, most times people ask me my age and i have to do the math from my DOB 21:36 Peacock i still get lost going downtown and ive been living here nearly 3 years now :p 21:42 DanDuncombe Peacock: I can't get it to work 21:43 Peacock what does it say/do? 21:43 DanDuncombe Failed to run init.lua 21:43 DanDuncombe I'll get the debug... 21:43 Peacock sounds like a syntax or index bug 21:44 Peacock *error 21:44 DanDuncombe 22:42:06: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 21:44 DanDuncombe 22:42:06: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 21:44 DanDuncombe 22:42:06: ERROR[main]: C:\Users\Daniel\Desktop\Minetest\minetest-0.4.7-46d1d70-win32\bin\..\mods\camo\camo\init.lua: 21:44 Peacock i just need the line where it gives the line number :p 21:44 DanDuncombe 22:42:06: ERROR[main]: ...0.4.7-46d1d70-win32\bin\..\mods\camo\camo/mob_turret.lua:66: unexpected symbol near '}' 21:44 Peacock syntax 21:44 Peacock pastebin the whole mod 21:46 DanDuncombe ok 21:46 Peacock or at least the section encompassing the function or loop 21:48 DanDuncombe I'll paste the abm 21:49 DanDuncombe http://pastebin.com/N6crcYbf 21:49 DanDuncombe It all works without 'if minetest.env:get_node(x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z).name ~= 'camo:turret_computer' then return end' 21:50 DanDuncombe It just makes the turret computer pointless 21:52 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, add some {} 21:52 Peacock around the pos :p 21:53 Peacock if minetest.env:get_node({x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z}).name ~= 'camo:turret_computer' then return end 21:53 DanDuncombe Thanks :) 21:53 DanDuncombe Works now. 21:54 * DanDuncombe gives PilzAdam and Peacock some more virtual cupcakes with icing and fairy stars 21:54 Peacock id settle for some coffee :p 21:55 DanDuncombe Tough, you have cupcakes 21:55 Peacock lol 21:56 Exio4 [18:32:19] if minetest.env:get_node(x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z).name ~= 'mod:othernode' then return end 21:56 Exio4 .env: is deprecated 21:56 Peacock well not in 0.4.6 and thats what im using :p 21:57 Exio4 0.4.7 is already released 21:57 Peacock i am aware 21:57 PilzAdam give me one sane reason to not use 0.4.7 21:57 Peacock it's slower 21:57 PilzAdam no, its not 21:57 PilzAdam its more optimized 21:57 Peacock if you say so 21:57 Exio4 Peacock: use the latest git 21:57 Exio4 it contains a super cleanup i did that is amazingly fast! 21:58 Exio4 (removed one line after reading a comment) 21:58 PilzAdam almost all memory leaks are fixed 21:59 Peacock what about the ingame chat segfault? that one is driving me nuts lol 21:59 PilzAdam do you have a way to reproduce it? 21:59 Peacock well its only when i (running the server) chat that it segfaults when i press enter 22:00 Peacock its pretty random and the debug gives me nothing 22:00 PilzAdam what OS do you use? 22:00 Peacock harch 22:00 Exio4 arch * 22:00 PilzAdam can you use a debug build of minetest, a debug build of irrlicht and produce a proper backtrace with gdb? 22:01 Exio4 he is maudevic o mauvedic or mausomething 22:01 Peacock mauvedick 22:01 Exio4 like so 22:01 Peacock and no, i cant install jack on arch anymore since packer broke 22:02 Peacock its my last arch rig, the others are switched to CB 22:02 Exio4 CB? crunchbang? :> 22:02 Peacock yep 22:02 Exio4 Peacock: jackd works for me in debian; outside that, how is it related to MT 22:02 kahrl CandyBox 22:02 Peacock sucks for arch but they need something better than pacman for system updates 22:03 Peacock candybox? 22:03 Exio4 a js game 22:03 Peacock besides arch is always pushing half-assed updates in the last few months 22:03 kahrl http://aniwey.net/candies-hardmode/ 22:09 Peacock exio, when i said jack, i didn't mean 'jack' the package, it means *anything* lol 22:10 Exio4 arch is shit in terms of stability 22:11 Exio4 like nobody knows that... 22:11 Peacock i wouldn't argue against that lately lol 22:11 Peacock its stable when it happens to work, otherwise they're just pushing whatever the fuck they feel like lol 22:11 Peacock and they expect people to enjoy wasting a weekend fixing it 22:13 Peacock they banned me from their forum when i asked if they ever had any real work to do on their comps lol 22:13 Peacock something that'd require a working box 22:17 sokomine how do i get a list in the forum? [ul] [li] ? 22:17 Menche i believe [list] 22:17 sokomine ah, thanks. will try that 22:17 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/help.php?section=bbcode 22:17 Menche and [*] for individual items 22:25 jojoa1997 could someone help me 22:25 jojoa1997 code: http://pastebin.com/17KssM0K error: http://pastebin.com/P7UgQbT6 22:26 jojoa1997 anything 22:27 kahrl jojoa1997: try: replacements = {{'bucket:bucket_water', 'bucket:bucket_empty'}}, 22:28 jojoa1997 yep it works thanks kahrl 22:35 Peacock you cant have commas in usernames right? 22:39 kahrl yes, you can't 22:40 Peacock allright thanks (working on nations support for turrets) 22:42 jojoa1997 is anyone good with textures here 22:48 Peacock looks like no lol 22:50 OldCoder jojoa1997, Jordach seems proficient 22:50 OldCoder I believe NekoGloop is as well 22:50 NekoGloop yo wassup 22:51 jojoa1997 nekogloop could you make some textures for me 22:55 kahrl what is this post trying to say? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101462#p101462 22:55 NekoGloop nope 22:55 PilzAdam "I cant use BBCode, help!" 22:57 OldCoder g2g to a meeting. If Kacey shows up tell him we've solved his math puzzle. 22:57 OldCoder o/ 22:59 DanDuncombe Who likes the turrets in my camo mod? 22:59 DanDuncombe They are anti-mob 23:19 DanDuncombe Do you think Vanessa will ever allow evil mobs on her server? 23:19 VanessaE no, I won't. 23:19 VanessaE :P 23:20 DanDuncombe VanessaE, did you see the mod update link I sent you? 23:20 VanessaE yeah, haven't had time to act on it 23:21 DanDuncombe It guaranteed won't even target players. I really promise. 23:21 DanDuncombe The textures could do with some work though. 23:21 DanDuncombe Although I actually like them as they are. 23:22 DanDuncombe I also have switched to using your textures VanessaE, without the bump-mapping stuff. 23:22 VanessaE cool 23:23 DanDuncombe So people still need your texture pack if they want bump-mapping. 23:23 VanessaE yes 23:23 DanDuncombe Wouldn't want to put your texture pack out of business :p 23:24 VanessaE :P 23:24 DanDuncombe Also, the turret does 'kill' dropped items, so a couple could be useful if people drop loads somewhere. 23:25 VanessaE well I will disable the turret anyways 23:25 DanDuncombe All it does it kill mobs 23:25 DanDuncombe Please leave it :) 23:25 VanessaE no 23:25 VanessaE that goes against the theme of my server 23:26 DanDuncombe Oh well, was hoping it would be left there. 23:26 DanDuncombe It would be very easy to make it only shoot items, not mobs or players. So it only clears up unwanted drops- maybe a public 'landfill'? 23:28 DanDuncombe Change all the if not player to something like if luaentity item 23:29 VanessaE naw, entities are used for too many things on my server. 23:29 VanessaE I'll disable it when I update. easily done from my game builder script 23:30 DanDuncombe Oh, right 23:30 DanDuncombe Maybe keep it as decoration- so it doesn't do anything. Just delete everything below and including the abms 23:31 DanDuncombe Also, could I make it so it emits 'smoke' when firing as well as shooting bullets? 23:31 VanessaE sure, a particle spawner could do that 23:32 VanessaE I don't know how to use those, though 23:32 DanDuncombe How would I implement it into the abms I wonder. 23:32 PilzAdam its not hard, just look at the docs 23:32 VanessaE you wouldn't 23:32 DanDuncombe Where are 'the docs'? 23:33 VanessaE you would trigger a spawner each time a shell fires, with a short timeout that's just short enough to run out before the next shell fires 23:33 DanDuncombe It uses the abm to fire 23:34 DanDuncombe It uses the abm to spawn a 'bullet' entity whizzing towards the entity it was aimed at. 23:35 DanDuncombe Although this sometimes causes the amusing problem where it tries to shoot it's own bullets leading to pointless sustained fire. 23:36 VanessaE haha 23:36 VanessaE "the docs" = https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 23:36 PilzAdam VanessaE, double topic in General Discussion 23:36 DanDuncombe Out of interest, '[00:29] naw, entities are used for too many things on my server.' what kind of things are they? Thanks for the docs link too. 23:37 VanessaE DanDuncombe: signs, pipeworks, peaceful mobs 23:37 DanDuncombe Apart from mobs 23:37 DanDuncombe Signs? Pipeworks? 23:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: deleted. 23:37 VanessaE (one of) 23:37 PilzAdam you should delete both 23:37 PilzAdam it just contains nonsense 23:37 VanessaE DanDuncombe: yeah - signs use entities to produce the visible text, pipeworks uses them to route items around through the tubes,. 23:38 VanessaE to you its nonsense, what he wants to know are the exact item names, and he's *probably* referring to one of mauvebic's mods 23:38 VanessaE or that "other" farming mod by Doc, maybe 23:39 DanDuncombe So my turret would shoot signs and 'kill'them... lol. 23:39 VanessaE (I really wish he'd change his handle. "smelly but[t]" is not appropriate for this forum, imho. 23:39 VanessaE DanDuncombe: basically, or items in tubes 23:43 DanDuncombe Will this work (added to abm): minetest.add_particle(pos, velocity=1, acceleration=0, expirationtime=2,) 23:44 PilzAdam ehm... of course you need some basic understanding of programming to code a mod... 23:45 DanDuncombe HAHAHAHAHA PILZADAM 23:45 VanessaE DanDuncombe: you need to specify size, collision detection, and the texture it should use 23:45 VanessaE also. 23:46 VanessaE but you probably want the add_particlespawner() call instead 23:46 DanDuncombe I am just trying to get camo:mob_turret to add a 'smoke' particle every time it fires 23:47 sokomine shooting signs does not sound particulary helpful :-) 23:47 DanDuncombe It isn't 23:54 sea-theorem I'm playing minetest. :3 This is fun. I've dug a huge hole and some tunnels, and now I'm totally lost. 23:55 sokomine playing first time? 23:55 sea-theorem Yeah 23:55 sokomine any experience with minecraft? 23:55 DanDuncombe fly put 23:55 DanDuncombe *out 23:56 sea-theorem None, I haven't even played minecraft. I'm having fun being lost. Except I'm about to run out of torches 23:56 sokomine yes, that's one option. teleporting out may work as well. if you build anything, see if you can find hints in the debug.txt of where your house is/was 23:56 sea-theorem and then I'll be stuck down here 23:56 sokomine *g* don't worry. there's plenty of coal! 23:56 sea-theorem Yes, but I ran out of wood 23:56 DanDuncombe But you need wod 23:56 sokomine ok. that's bad 23:56 DanDuncombe *wood 23:56 sea-theorem and trees don't seem to grow very often in the depths of this planet 23:56 DanDuncombe No 23:57 sokomine you may find the occasional tree. but only on servers, planted by other players in underground tree-gardens :-) 23:58 DanDuncombe type /grant singleplayer all 23:58 DanDuncombe then press k to fly 23:58 DanDuncombe To flythrough nodes, press h 23:58 DanDuncombe to go quickly, press j 23:58 sokomine i usually use my travelnet mod to avoid getting lost in my singleplayer worlds. when i find a site i want to come back to, i place a box there. when i'm lost, i place another box. there are also bookmarks- and home-mods and other teleporter mods out there 23:58 sea-theorem Interesting. Ah, so you can pass through things 23:58 sea-theorem a box? You mean a chest? 23:58 Exio4 that is with noclip 23:59 DanDuncombe A travelnet mod box 23:59 DanDuncombe With the travelnet mod 23:59 sea-theorem Sounds like an exit to a teleporter, based on the name 23:59 DanDuncombe Yep it is