Time Nick Message 00:02 nalkri But can you feed them punch cards? 00:04 Exio4 good night 00:06 bas080 nalkri, if punchcards would contain the path towards a sh, yes 00:09 bas080 too bad it cannot cd... yet. I could ofcourse check when cd comman is performed and that it then remembers to what path you have changed so when you perform command like ls it shows that path 00:16 bas080 On mesecon signal it can start a command too. you could make minetest an alternative too unity. It's not hard to be better then unity. 00:58 PilzAdam Elench, quit join spamming 01:01 NakedFury Hide Join/Quit Messages 01:08 PilzAdam NakedFury, thats racist 01:18 PilzAdam bye 01:44 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tTAli2xxSA&feature=share&list=FLOvZ7LFrd6LRrMEDM5iorFQ 01:59 seasalt http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100720#p100720 01:59 seasalt ^can anyone help me with this problem? 02:01 Kacey those appear all the time 02:01 seasalt why wont minetest load then 02:01 khonkhortisan the remote server has an animals mod 02:01 Kacey looks like MobF... that will take a while to load 02:02 seasalt khonkhortisan, does that mean i have to download and install the mod from the minetest site? 02:03 seasalt where on the site should i go 02:03 Kacey not nessicarily... to make it load faster, perhaps, but you can also just wait a bit for it to load 02:03 Kacey after you get it loaded the first time it is much faster 02:38 hdastwb VanessaE: I'm currently adding some facedir support in Pipeworks and I've done almost everything except autoplace.lua; I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to just have a table defined for each node definition that identifies which sides connect to pipes (i.e. {left=true, right=true, back=true}) rather than coding each directly into autoplace.lua 02:39 VanessaE actually I had planned on doing exactly that 02:39 VanessaE I've just been too lazy to get it done :P 03:03 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2007192013%20-%2005%3A02%3A02%20AM.png 03:04 bas080 it actually works. Although i am wondering what the best implementation of digilines would be 03:04 bas080 Now it only works with an on or off signal. 03:04 bas080 It would be nice to use the msg argument so one can use luacontroller to determine terminal command to execute 03:05 bas080 Does that make sense. I'm not a big mesecons and digilines user 03:06 VanessaE nice 03:07 bas080 the on and off signal does use the channel function. You can set channel in the terminal by typing digilines -channel 03:13 hdastwb Minetest's coordinate system is left-handed, isn't it 03:14 VanessaE left-handed? 03:15 hdastwb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule 03:15 VanessaE neither. 03:16 VanessaE X is west (-) and east (+), Z is south (-) and north (+), Y is up/down 03:18 Ego The left-handed rule is like.. If they're left-handed, they're evil, smite them. 03:21 hdastwb I just noticed that if one considers the X axis to point east and the Y up, the Z is defined to point south rather than north using the right-hand rule 03:22 hdastwb (I'm using a cross product to find the vector out of a node's side; turns out the cross product between the back and top vectors points out the left side) 03:23 VanessaE jeez, too much more of this and I won't be able to code on my own mod anymore :) 04:13 StarBlessed Hi all, a bit of an announcement : https://d.viewskew.com/posts/18237 04:13 StarBlessed This also affects the media server and the Minetest server. 04:36 ShadowNinja StarBlessed: Think you used enough hashtags? ;-) 04:37 bas080 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6611 is looking for testers. 04:40 StarBlessed ShadowNinja: I wanted to cover as many people as possible. This is a HUGE change over, and I expect extreme difficulty. With an outage of this size, I need to make sure everyone is informed. 04:40 ShadowNinja bas080: Try :(){:|:&}:; ;-) 04:41 ShadowNinja (If it even runs a shel) 04:41 ShadowNinja (Don't really run it) 04:42 bas080 I'm not sure... i'm not the most experienced linux user. But what happens when i run that? 04:44 bas080 ShadowNinja, it uses the lua function os.execute 04:45 bas080 So running an program without & at the end will make minetest freeze until the other program has ended 04:45 bas080 I'm not sure what the best way would be to resolve that without having to remove the output function 05:01 ShadowNinja bas080: This has so much potential for abuse that it must be singleplayer-only. 05:01 bas080 ShadowNinja, good point!!! 05:01 bas080 I will add some password or other form of security. 05:01 bas080 But to be safe people that do not know what they are doing should indeed only run it singleplayer 05:02 bas080 or privs 05:06 bas080 ShadowNinja, If i would restrict access to terminals because one does not have the "terminal" priv, would that be safe? 05:07 hdastwb nope; turns out that the vector still points out the right side of the node, because the right-hand rule doesn't work correctly in left-handed coordinate spaces anywayâ€¦ 05:10 bas080 ShadowNinja, not nice to send me a fork bomb. 05:11 bas080 i'm not the type that inserts every command one sends me but what if had trusted you, could it break my computer? 05:34 sfan5 "this site [...] is listed as "open-source" [...] so anything, even nonsense is "meant" to be welcome. " ~DeepGaze in a PM 05:34 sfan5 ^ wat? 06:02 hdastwb 6d facedir tubes incoming: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/48 06:04 hdastwb it still needs the tube side routing table defined for each of the technic components in the technic mod though, so I'll look at pull-requesting that of them tomorrow 08:51 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Friday, and happy Soyuz 14 Landing Day! :-D 08:57 Calinou hi 09:18 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100749#p100749 09:18 Calinou le 2 FPS 09:18 Calinou hi Taoki 09:28 Taoki hi 09:29 sfan5 hi 09:32 Zeg9 Hello ! 09:40 iqualfragile i once played a game and had 2 SPF! 09:41 iqualfragile Calinou: try changing your buildfile so gcc gets the option -mach=native, that should speed up calculations a bit 09:41 sfan5 iqualfragile: you mean -march=native right? 09:42 iqualfragile ah, yes, sorry, typo 10:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:28 Elench Sorry PilzAdam I was asleep 10:29 Elench So didn't know I was join spamming 11:49 Calinou le new minecraft launcher design 12:50 Calinou it's java 12:50 Calinou so it works on any OS supporting java 12:52 PilzAdam lol, "mc works on every OS" 12:52 PilzAdam suuuuuuuuure 13:01 Calinou PilzAdam: it does 13:01 Calinou works on windows, OS X and linux 13:01 Calinou better than minetest which has slippery OS X compatibility 13:39 NekoGloop I forget: how many items will a single piece of coal cook in a normal furnace in minetest? I don't think I ever bothered to figure out :P 13:41 PilzAdam 13 or 14 IIRC 13:43 NekoGloop I'm playing in a mapgen v7 world without any biomes 13:43 NekoGloop Living off of my treasure chests :P 13:44 NekoGloop 13 it would seem 13:45 NekoGloop (with normal cooktimes in the recipe) 14:04 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/7pgSlsN.png This was made without any trees in the world. 14:22 NekoGloop gah, will something please break this damn steel block 15:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, please re-check https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/257 15:02 PenguinDad !c the answer to life, the universe and everything 15:02 MinetestBot 42 15:03 Kacey huh... that is the second person i know to go missing this month... 15:04 PenguinDad Kacey: Who? 15:07 NakedFury kaeza? 15:12 OldCoder john_minetest, Hello. My worlds will return shortly. My server host has returned from Europe. 15:13 OldCoder He is switching upstream ISPs. When that is done I will get a full range of ports again. 15:13 OldCoder When LevelDB is supported I will try to update. Not until then. 15:13 OldCoder I may try to merge LevelDB with upstream myself. But I have been told this may require more time than I have. 15:40 PilzAdam bbl 15:51 hoodedice Hello 16:01 nalkri Is it possible to do serverâ†’server teleportation? 16:02 * Jordach starts on Sam III 16:03 NekoGloop "PilzAdam: Why can't you get it right the first time, you fucking idiot" 16:05 Jordach NekoGloop, i'm taking the piss 16:05 * Jordach already is fine with Sam II 16:05 Jordach i'm just trying a new technique in my skinning 16:05 NekoGloop (that was my PA impression) 16:06 Jordach NekoGloop, that's 100% accurate 16:13 sfan5 nalkri: no 16:14 nalkri sfan5: thanks :) 16:14 nalkri I guess I'll be using layers 16:17 Jordach sfan5, i've finally worked out how to do a REAL checkered style shirt 16:20 Jordach (the word for said checker style is plaid; btw) 16:21 Jordach name a character: i'll skin it 16:23 sfan5 hm 16:24 Calinou [insert pony name here] 16:24 * Calinou runs 16:26 Jordach sfan5, Calinou: http://i.imgur.com/oC9auoN.png 16:26 Jordach prototype wheatley skin 16:27 Jordach Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/RxcGSLa.png 16:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/4kMfalX.png 16:30 Jordach and to think the other users are as good as skinning as me? 16:31 ShadowNinja bas080: " (Don't really run it)" And no, that would not be safe because Minetest sends all data, including passwords, in plain text. 16:33 RealBadAngel hi all 16:39 NakedFury hi RBA 16:50 sfan5 ShadowNinja: what is that conversation about? 16:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6611 16:53 sfan5 mhm 16:53 sfan5 what about encryption? 16:53 sfan5 and using DHE for the keys? 16:53 sfan5 ... 16:54 sfan5 there's no client side lua... damn 16:55 ShadowNinja You could use something like a SSH tunnel. But that would be a lot of trouble and would likely be very slow. 16:55 sfan5 client side lua would be very helpful... 16:55 sfan5 but I don't think lua callback for formspec will get added 17:17 whirm I'm having trouble using electric devices in technic_game, I connected 3 coal generators to a battery box as usual and it doesn't work at all (coal burns, but the battery box doesn't charge) 17:21 nalkri whirm: I think you need a switching station 17:23 whirm nalkri: thanks, Ill build one 17:24 whirm nalkri: wow, it needs a lot of materials 17:25 nalkri yep 17:25 nalkri I've not managed anything useful in technic yet 17:29 whirm RealBadAngel: don't you think requiring a switching power supply is a big too much to be a requisite to do anything at all with electricity? 17:29 * whirm doesn't know how to english 17:30 RealBadAngel the solution is way better for mod to have one element that takes care about the circuit than dozens of batboxes doing the same and killing the performance 17:33 whirm RealBadAngel: then maybe it should be easier to build? 17:35 RealBadAngel technic is not about being easy. its about gathering more and more resources and building complicated stuff ;) 17:36 nalkri It's about being really really hard to get started on :p 17:36 RealBadAngel and it will be forcing you to dig for even more resources 17:37 whirm RealBadAngel: I meant that the start curve is too high 17:37 Calinou it isn't that high IMO, read the documentation 17:37 RealBadAngel start with coal driven machines 17:37 RealBadAngel electricity havent popped out in one day :) 17:39 RealBadAngel i could make the recipe use one ingot, 2 pieces of wood or somethin like that, to make it EASY 17:39 whirm Calinou: what documentation? I looked for it for a while and I only could find a very basic wiki (https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/wiki) 17:39 RealBadAngel but what for? player will loose the goal to get 17:40 whirm RealBadAngel: heh, but maybe there could be 3 tiers of switching power supplies, so one can start with LV, then MV, then HV, instead of having to build a thing that uses tech from the three levels only to be able to use the first one 17:41 RealBadAngel thats actually a good point 17:41 Calinou the very basic wiki was enough for me 17:41 RealBadAngel maybe we will split it into 3 tiers in the future 17:43 whirm all the logic can be in the LV one, but you need to stack the 3 to be able to use the 3 levels, that would make sense 17:43 Ego Just play technic on creative, then it's SUPER easy! 17:45 whirm :) then its no fun at all 17:47 nalkri I still find it confusing with mesecon and technic 17:48 VanessaE hi all 17:49 Jordach hey VanessaE 17:49 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 3000 17:49 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30000 17:49 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:3000 seems to be down 17:52 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE 17:52 VanessaE hey 17:55 VanessaE what's news? 17:56 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/838 17:57 Calinou +1 17:57 RealBadAngel i changed lotsa files and bumped protocol version to get such little thingy ;) 17:57 VanessaE RealBadAngel: looky what hdastwb did: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/48 17:57 * VanessaE is afraid to merge it :P 17:58 Jordach muahaha: my brother is using a 64bit os 17:58 Jordach it's slower than me using 32bit 17:58 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/f8eec473a7da86ed3e43bafbd46054ae10764616#L1R695 <-- Should be CE_PLAYER_BREATH. 17:59 VanessaE #838 looks like a good idea, for sure 18:00 Calinou Jordach: if he has little RAM, that is normal 18:00 Calinou but even 64 bit xubuntu runs fine on my netbook, which has 1GB RAM 18:00 Jordach Calinou, 4gb 18:00 Calinou also, take storage and CPU into account 18:00 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, huh, like really, wonder then why it works in the first place :) 18:00 Jordach Calinou, intel duo core 18:01 Calinou storage? 18:01 Calinou if you're comparing 5400rpm HDD to 7200rpm HDD then this is normal :P 18:01 Calinou it makes a big difference in usual lightweight tasks 18:02 sfan5 Megaf: you can also leave out the port 18:03 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6622 LOL 18:04 thexyz THIS IS SO BAD IT'S GOOD 18:05 * Jordach taps the report button 18:05 RealBadAngel rotfl 18:05 Jordach spam....? 18:05 Calinou lol avatar 18:05 RealBadAngel rather hall of fame entry 18:06 RealBadAngel but wonder which category ;) 18:06 Jordach s/fame/shame 18:07 RealBadAngel he was registered before 18:08 RealBadAngel look at picture link and http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2477 18:09 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100763#p100763 18:09 Calinou TIL lkjoel is a brony 18:10 Jordach TIL Calinou is a brony 18:10 Jordach 18:11 thexyz > mostly straight 18:12 thexyz didn't he quit though? 18:12 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, its actually good. it should be CEE_PLAYER_BREATH. just CE_PLAYER_BREATH is not needed at all, i will remove its definition 18:12 Calinou thexyz: he did, see his signature 18:13 thexyz Calinou: why does he continue to post? 18:13 * Calinou shrugs 18:23 RealBadAngel can somebody test https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/838 ? 18:23 Megaf thanks sfan5 18:24 Calinou "testing? oh, it spoils the fun" --pinkie pie on bumblebee removing /usr 18:24 Calinou mark shuttleworth seal of approval 18:29 Jordach my hypersaw doesnt care for your insignificant midi instrument switches 18:31 Jordach saw-wave + "screaming" strings 18:31 Jordach = hypersaw 18:31 * Calinou uses klein bottle, tuba and akordeon 18:31 * Calinou smashes Jordach using klein bottle 18:31 * Jordach regenerates damage 18:31 sfan5 "so i was wondering if Pilz Adam or someone else could make a in-browser port of Minetest? i don't have enough coding expirience with LUA" 18:31 sfan5 ^ someone read this and tell me how broken your brain is now 18:32 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6624 18:32 Calinou echo "so i was wondering if Pilz Adam or someone else could make a in-browser port of Minetest? i don't have enough coding expirience with LUA" >> hallofshame.txt 18:32 Ego Where do I read this hallofshame.txt? 18:33 sfan5 just do "wget http://10.213.79.4/hallofshame.txt" 18:34 Jordach !title 18:35 MinetestBot Jordach: Can't connect to http://10.213.79.4/hallofshame.txt 18:35 sfan5 oh god 18:35 Ego 10 is a local, lol. 18:35 sfan5 10.0.0.0/8 are local IPs guys 18:35 * Jordach hugs MinetestBot 18:35 Jordach now where's my !op 18:35 Jordach !op 18:36 * Jordach grumbles 18:36 sfan5 Jordach: ... 18:40 Jordach sfan5, i am a evil man: http://i.imgur.com/2omS54M.png 18:41 sfan5 Minetest in a browser wouldn't work, because we can't bind ports from JS 18:41 Jordach sfan5, fixed: (i dont ever use .wav!!!!) http://i.imgur.com/RyLjXRC.png 18:42 Jordach ogg for me takes 4-5 mins to render, mp3 takes 40mins to render 18:42 * Jordach loves using .ogg 18:43 Calinou ogg ftw 18:43 Calinou mp3 sucks 18:43 Calinou Jordach: by the way, ogg is a container, you actually use vorbis (or flac, or opus) 18:43 Jordach this is a P4 i'm talking about 18:48 Jordach Fun Fact: a 256kb/s mp3 of this song is the same size as a 450kb/s ogg 18:48 Calinou usually you don't go over 320kbps anyway 18:48 Calinou 320kbps/44khz/16bit is usually enough 18:48 Jordach Calinou, i render at literal stupid levels 18:49 Calinou 320kbps/192khz/24bit? :P 18:49 Calinou that is a stupid level 18:50 Jordach Calinou, 450kbps 192khz 24bit 18:50 Jordach in ogg 19:11 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/listen/9hpyhtu50t1dl3x/R-S-E_-_Elite4Battle.ogg 19:15 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com 19:15 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 seems to be down 19:15 Jordach ffs 19:16 Jordach someone is definitely trying to crack viewskew.com 19:16 Jordach > Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to 74.91.22.18:3000 19:16 Jordach oh, vps hardware is down!! 19:16 sfan5 lawl 19:17 Jordach !title viewskew.com 19:17 Jordach (is that how that works) 19:17 Jordach nope, cant even access viewskew.com 19:17 MinetestBot Jordach: Can't connect to http://viewskew.com 19:17 Jordach thanks MinetestBot 19:17 * Jordach hugs MinetestBot 19:18 Jordach is there a way to reverse base64 with MinetestBot yet? 19:19 PilzAdam Jordach, loke !b64d ? 19:19 PilzAdam *like 19:20 pehjota Jordach: It's a planned outage; StarBlessed announced it 15 hours ago. In another channel: " Over the next couple of days. I cant tell exactly when it will go down, but it will be frequently up and down :(" 19:20 Jordach pehjota, i cant thank you enough, really 19:26 sfan5 !b64e test string 19:26 MinetestBot dGVzdCBzdHJpbmc= 19:26 sfan5 !rev dGVzdCBzdHJpbmc 19:26 MinetestBot cmbpJHdzBCdzVGd 19:26 sfan5 !b64d cmbpJHdzBCdzVGd= 19:26 MinetestBot rf\xe9$ws\x04'sTg 19:26 sfan5 ^ Jordach, like that? 19:26 Jordach very much so 19:27 sfan5 !b64d 1234 19:27 MinetestBot \xd7m\xf8 19:28 sfan5 !b64d 12 19:28 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/xyz/bot/bot.py", line 189, in ) 19:28 sfan5 oh no 19:28 sfan5 MinetestBot! 19:28 MinetestBot sfan5! 19:28 sfan5 phew... 19:29 thexyz do you even tests? 19:30 * sfan5 added an error handler.. 19:30 thexyz it's not that hard 19:30 thexyz google python unit tests 19:30 sfan5 lolwat 19:30 sfan5 I made an error handler that prints the exception 19:31 thexyz then get 100% coverage 19:31 Jordach sfan5, pm it to yourself 19:34 sfan5 !crc32 Jordach 19:34 MinetestBot -145757404(-0x8b014dc) 19:34 Jordach !crc32 Calinou sucks 19:34 MinetestBot 141135740(0x8698f7c) 19:36 sfan5 !crc32 I like hats! 19:36 MinetestBot 157326156(0x9609b4c) 19:38 * sfan5 gifts a hat to Jordach 19:38 sfan5 !voice Jordach 19:38 * Jordach would prefer voice to op 19:38 Jordach because blue dor 19:38 Jordach dot* 19:38 Jordach hai john_minetest 19:38 thexyz it 19:39 thexyz it's +, not blue dot 19:39 PilzAdam shark john_minetest 19:39 thexyz sfan5: write tests, now 19:39 Jordach thexyz, hexchat 19:39 Jordach i ain't an irssi prick 19:39 sfan5 thexyz: why? 19:39 sfan5 I was just too stupid to do an exception handler that makes sense 19:40 thexyz sfan5: because your fucking thing fucking never works 19:41 MinetestBot D: 19:41 thexyz 100% coverage was a joke, obviously 19:41 thexyz but it's better than having zero one 19:41 Calinou hi john_minetest 19:42 sfan5 there is no reason to do unit tests, rutils.py was doing the exact (stupid) thing I was telling it to do[printing the exception message when there is one which is basically the same as no exception handler] 19:43 thexyz sfan5: there's always a reason to write unit tests 19:43 Jordach TIL you can vote on a active poll when the topic is closed 19:43 sfan5 !g reason to write unit tests 19:43 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/04/02/javaxpckbk.html 19:43 Jordach > java 19:43 Jordach > unit tests 19:43 thexyz sfan5: just grep your commit log for "fix" 19:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: are you kidding me 19:43 sfan5 ? 19:44 MinetestBot yes 19:44 sfan5 MinetestBot: knew it 19:44 sfan5 thexyz: yes, ik that I "fix" a lot 19:45 Jordach ik == inverse kinetics 19:45 sfan5 atleast 2 things are fixes I couldn't've known about before 19:45 thexyz sfan5: that's why you write unit tests 19:45 thexyz you will be sure things work as you want them to 19:46 sfan5 Jordach: can you make more things in the style of rscred.ogg? 19:46 Jordach sfan5, sure 19:47 Jordach sfan5, you do know the towns in ruby and saphire are quiet, but the battles are loud and action-y 19:51 thexyz well, anyway 19:51 thexyz you'll understand some day, huh 19:54 sfan5 ...probably 19:54 thexyz of course you will 19:59 RealBadAngel http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6625 19:59 RealBadAngel holy shit lm is back 20:00 RealBadAngel even more of them this time 20:01 Jordach RealBadAngel, LOL 20:02 thexyz you think he has left? 20:02 Jordach possible 20:02 RealBadAngel he has cloned 20:02 Jordach or that OldCoder may have finally calmed him down, either way, we dont want the devil back 20:02 Jordach "speak of the devil and he shall appear" 20:02 OldCoder Hi! 20:03 * VanessaE pours a large box of kittens into OldCoder's pile 20:03 OldCoder O_o 20:03 OldCoder A whole box? 20:03 Jordach hehe, meow 20:03 * OldCoder listens to the purring 20:03 VanessaE yeah 20:03 Jordach IRL, i can miaow like a cat realistically 20:03 OldCoder It is an important skill 20:03 VanessaE NekoGloopMkII forgot to turn it off again 20:04 Jordach (i use it to cute out my girlfriend :P ) 20:04 Calinou I used to be able to :( 20:04 NekoGloopMkII You broke the power switch 20:04 Calinou more or less 20:04 * Calinou puts a pony on NekoGloopMkII's head 20:04 * NekoGloopMkII throws it into the local dump 20:04 VanessaE blame Kacey, he's the one who fiddled with the power conversion unit :) 20:05 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloopMkII's head 20:05 PilzAdam Calinou, what pony? 20:06 Calinou PilzAdam 20:06 Calinou :) 20:06 PilzAdam \o/ 20:06 PilzAdam <- best pony 20:10 Calinou john_minetest, wolfgame? 20:10 Calinou PilzAdam, 20:12 * NekoGloopMkII eats Calinou 20:18 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/fQ6NyfW.png 20:20 Calinou Jordach, funniest part is "People behind you" :P 20:20 Calinou night 20:29 ShadowNinja Hmmm, how can I get the last digit of a two digit decimal number in Lua? I can get the first one, but the second one is failing in a odd way... 20:30 ShadowNinja (Preferably without string operations) 20:30 VanessaE divide by 10, take the integer, multiply the result by 10 again, subtract the result from the original number. 20:30 VanessaE of course, there's probably a single function that'll do it too 20:31 ShadowNinja That's what I tried, it didn't work... 20:31 ShadowNinja I got -4 from 46. 20:32 Jordach sfan5, rscred.ogg song type coming in 30 mins 20:32 VanessaE weird. 20:32 Jordach (its rendering a 16mb file.) 20:34 pehjota ShadowNinja: "num % 10"? 20:35 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, second digit = number - firsts digit * 10 20:37 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Tried that, must have done something wrong. 20:37 Elench / 20:37 Elench No? 20:38 * hdastwb 's cobble generator *was* too much for Rancon's Skyblock server to handleâ€¦ 20:39 VanessaE hdastwb: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/48#issuecomment-21271749 20:40 hdastwb I was thinking the exact same thing, though I have no idea how to code it 20:40 VanessaE ok 20:42 Jordach Laser Show + 3D camera = :D 20:42 Jordach feckin holograms 20:48 Jordach KHANNNN! 20:48 Jordach rendered it was wav 20:59 Jordach sfan5, http://www.mediafire.com/listen/h71744anx49wwlh/PMD_-_ET-D_-_I_Dont_Want_to_Say_Goodbye.ogg 20:59 sfan5 Jordach: nice 21:01 Jordach sfan5, that johnnyknowshow guy's music cannot compare to my masterpieces 21:02 * Jordach has been considering rebuilding Ruby and Saphire using Minetest as an engine 21:02 * sfan5 needs some software to cross-compile 21:11 Jordach VanessaE, did you hear my most recent song? 21:16 VanessaE no 21:16 Jordach go listen 21:16 VanessaE not now 21:20 Jordach i set my wallpaper to shuffle, got this: http://i.imgur.com/oWU9YtN.jpg 21:22 VanessaE another zombie apocalypse reference...will someone PLEASE tell me wtf is the obsession with that? 21:23 Jordach VanessaE, wrong: in Black ops 2: zombies have turned most of the world to lava 21:23 Jordach they are *super* strong 21:23 VanessaE same difference :-/ 21:23 Jordach and you have to use a bus to get over lava sections 21:23 Jordach (and you play that guy in the CDC suit) 21:33 DanDuncombe Help? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6627 21:34 Jordach DanDuncombe, you using windows? 21:34 DanDuncombe Yes 21:34 Jordach https://windows.github.io 21:35 DanDuncombe 404 no page there :( 21:35 Jordach https://windows.github.com/ 21:35 Jordach try the new linky 21:36 DanDuncombe I already have that butdon't know how to upload a mod to a repo I made 21:36 nyuszika7h http://i.imgur.com/VTVxr.jpg 21:36 Jordach DanDuncombe, login and clone the repo 21:37 sfan5 nyuszika7h: lol 21:37 Jordach it should be: C:/Users/USERNAME/Documents 21:37 DanDuncombe Clone in windows button? 21:37 sfan5 DanDuncombe: you should know how to use Git if you want to use Github 21:37 Jordach DanDuncombe, yes 21:37 Jordach provided you ARE LOGGED INTO GITHUB with the APP, you should be fine 21:38 DanDuncombe Yeah, i'm using the app. Sorry if I'm being noob.First time on Github 21:39 DanDuncombe Now what (I get a page showing the readme.md) 21:44 DanDuncombe Nope, fine.Worked out how to do it. 22:19 pitriss Hi, please how I can write brackets (for example in lua controller code) in linux minetest 0.4.7 client? 22:21 pitriss yes, in lua example code is pretty common to use ( and ) 22:21 VanessaE maybe he means { } 22:22 VanessaE oh, ( and ) are parenthesis, not brackets [ ] 22:22 VanessaE { } are braces. 22:22 pitriss Ahh.. sorry. in czech we have almost the same name for those:) 22:23 pitriss Anyway, is possible to write parenthesis somehow? 22:23 VanessaE more likely it's a bug in the luacontrollers 22:23 VanessaE can you type them but they don't work? 22:23 VanessaE or you can't type them at all? 22:24 pitriss VanessaE: Nope, I can't type them in whole client.. 22:24 VanessaE weird 22:24 pitriss so probably it is irrlicht bug.. 22:24 VanessaE yeah 22:25 Jordach pitriss, what version are you using 22:25 pitriss Jordach: version of irrlicht? wait sec.. 22:26 Jordach 1.7.1 doesnt work with my anymore 22:26 Jordach mt* 22:26 pitriss 1.7.3.. so i should recompile with older irrlicht? 22:26 Jordach 1.7.3 is fine 22:26 VanessaE just don't touch 1.8, it's...glitchy. 22:27 pitriss VanessaE: TY 22:29 thexyz no it's fine 22:30 Slain hey, i need some helo 22:30 pitriss john_minetest: maybe i can try to change layout to english.. 22:31 Slain i am having a recurring issue and dont understand it 22:31 VanessaE thexyz: what's fine? 22:31 Kacey Slain, what is the problem 22:32 Slain ill be playing, and ill suddenly gett error messages in the console about updater something, and i cant see nothing, all my stuff disappears, my games lags, fps hits 60's, and i cant do nothing 22:32 VanessaE Slain: screenshots. 22:33 Slain hmm, let me load a game and i will screenshot when it happens, its happened twice in an hour so im sure itll happen again 22:34 VanessaE Slain: just for the future, "I get error messages...about xxx something" really isn't helpful. We need the *exact* text (or a pastebin of your debug.txt) 22:34 VanessaE (because without the full, exact text, no one will be able to find the source of the error) 22:35 pitriss john_minetest: okay. so switching to US layout is working.. Thanks.. :) 22:35 Slain yeah, let me do pastebin of my debug 22:37 Slain 18:56:51: ERROR[main]: WARNING: updateListener: invalid value 22:39 thexyz VanessaE: irrlicht 1.8 22:39 VanessaE thexyz: minetest + irrlicht 1.8 = broken shaders. 22:39 VanessaE ergo, glitchy. 22:40 thexyz VanessaE: how're they broken? 22:40 Slain http://mibpaste.com/grEAQn 22:41 VanessaE thexyz: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/807 22:41 VanessaE so, ask zeg9 :P 22:42 VanessaE taoki and I confirmed it on our machines also. 22:42 thexyz VanessaE: how's that related to irrlicht version? 22:43 VanessaE thexyz: it only happens with irrlicht 1.8 22:43 VanessaE it does not happen with 1.7.x 22:44 thexyz hm.. I have 1.8 here and don't see that issue 22:44 Slain VanessaE: http://mibpaste.com/grEAQn 22:45 VanessaE thexyz: *shrug* no one's sure of the exact cause or the exact collection of libs and settings that are needed to cause it. 22:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, IIRC you and Taoki have same GPU? 22:45 thexyz do I need to do anything apart from enabling it in settings? 22:45 VanessaE Slain: saw it the first two times, please don't repeat yourself when there's already a conversation going. 22:46 VanessaE PilzAdam: indeed so. I don't think Jordach does, though 22:46 VanessaE thexyz: enable it *and* use a texture pack that supports the feature 22:46 Slain Ok 22:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, *confirm* 22:48 Slain john_minetest: Apparently xD, but i am wondering what exactly causes that, and a possible fix from this. One second a beautiful world almost ready to hit public server list and boom, its all gone 22:48 PilzAdam Irrlicht 1.8. doesnt like bumpamming 22:49 VanessaE PilzAdam: what GPU have you got? 22:49 PilzAdam nvidia geforce GTX 640 22:49 PilzAdam *460 22:49 VanessaE ok, so that at least rules out brand 22:50 thexyz VanessaE: oh, yeah, you're right then 22:51 thexyz gtx 670, everything is black 22:52 thexyz anyone to bisect irrlicht? 22:52 VanessaE pfft 22:52 VanessaE you're funny 22:52 VanessaE :) 22:52 thexyz why not? 22:52 PilzAdam maybe RBA's code is wrong 22:52 thexyz or do you have an idea why does this happen? 22:53 Slain umm, i have a fairly interesting bot with a fun tag script added, if anyone would like to see (strictly with admin/moderator/developer approval) 22:53 VanessaE well I can't speak for anyone else, but I have a hard enough time understanding MT engine code, let alone irrlicht :) 22:53 VanessaE it's possible RBA's code is buggy - but why would it work on 1.7.x but not 1.8 unless 1.8 changed the API? 22:54 PilzAdam maybe he uses some corner case of 1.7? 22:54 VanessaE possible 23:00 Slain Any idea on the release date of 0.4.8? 23:02 marktraceur Slain: Why are you messaging the channel instead of talking normally? 23:03 Slain Because the notice was created to get the attention of the target user, in this case, the notice is to everyone. 23:03 Slain Thus, i would like to know. 23:03 VanessaE 0.4.8 is coming soon but that's all anyone knows 23:04 PilzAdam Slain, you are not the most important person here, you can ask normally 23:04 Slain Yes sir. 23:04 * ShadowNinja doesn't care about releases. Just git pull. :-) 23:04 iqualfragile you can actualy message channels? did not know that 23:04 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: exactly 23:05 Slain yes, i am a irc network administrator. well, was, before i moved :( 23:05 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: Chating is messaging a channel, that was a notice. 23:05 Slain lots of fun stuff irc can do 23:05 * ShadowNinja is currently. :-) 23:07 Slain So anyone know the issue with updateListener invalid value error? 23:07 VanessaE that one, I haven't the foggiest 23:08 Slain no ideas of what causes it? 23:08 Slain im running Linux Mint 15 23:13 thexyz Slain: seems to be sound-related 23:13 Slain or as a mod instead? 23:14 PilzAdam Minetest's latest dev version already has this... 23:14 Slain how do i get that? 23:15 PilzAdam ask sapier 23:15 thexyz already has what? 23:15 PilzAdam a mod manager 23:16 Slain are you talking the configuring to enable mods in 0.4.7 23:16 thexyz um.. now I don't get what you're talking about 23:17 PilzAdam no 23:18 thexyz Slain: well, try disabling sound 23:18 Slain ok, ill PM him on the forums 23:18 Slain thexyz: how do i disable sound 23:18 thexyz enable_sound = false in minetest.conf 23:18 PilzAdam thexyz, the actual cause of the bug is that the player is teleported really far away, the soundmanager is just the only thing that throws errors 23:19 thexyz alright 23:19 thexyz didn't follow the conversation 23:20 Slain usually, when the error occurs for me, im not far from the spawn. i start creating a house and during construction, boom, gone. 23:21 Slain warning messages, screen truns blue or black, game begins to lag, mouse pointer easily pops out of the game screen, fps hits 60s, cannot move, cannot build or destroy 23:22 PilzAdam what mods do you have installed? 23:23 Slain calinou mods master (only use moreores, and moreblocks), beds, mobs, homedecor, hud, weather 23:24 PilzAdam can you try if it reproduces without the beds mod? 23:24 VanessaE homedecor \o/ 23:24 Kacey well so far this summer, 2 people i know have gone missing, 1 has run away and another got busted smoking by the police... great -_- 23:25 PilzAdam Kacey, like IRL? 23:25 Kacey yes 23:25 Slain well, i deleted the world, but i can create a world, and if it hits, disable beds, relaunch and tell you of the outcome 23:26 Slain \i dont think its your beds mod however 23:26 Guest48546 How do I delete a repo from Github? 23:27 VanessaE why would you want to? 23:27 PilzAdam oh, I forgot to add "This is the official GitHub help channel" to the topic 23:27 PilzAdam my fault 23:27 Guest48546 It is unneede and empty 23:27 VanessaE Guest48546: look in the settings for that repo. 23:27 Guest48546 My repo, that is 23:28 VanessaE there's a delete option at the bottom of the page 23:28 Exio4 hi 23:28 VanessaE greetz, exio 23:29 Guest48546 Thanks, vannessae. Also, the github repo wiki function, does this mean I can make a mod wiki for my mod? 23:29 VanessaE that, I don't know 23:29 VanessaE never used that part. 23:30 Exio4 i'm using a windoze pc with a dual core pentium 23:30 Exio4 and a huge resolution 23:30 Exio4 and my old%outdated liveusb doesn't work :( 23:30 Exio4 plus spanish keymap for the keyboard, :( 23:36 Guest48546 Cool! 23:36 Peacock How big is the average gamepack (in mbs) 23:37 VanessaE it varies. minetest_game is only a few megs, while mine is in the 15MB range 23:38 Peacock :/ using a 4mb one and people timeout 23:38 VanessaE the size of the game mode doesn't much matter, people timeout even on minetest_game 23:38 VanessaE it's usually because the client crashes 23:39 Peacock but every single user? (was public for 2 hours) 23:39 VanessaE yup 23:39 VanessaE it happens. a LOT 23:39 PilzAdam Peacock, mbs means "Megabyte per second", what you mean would be MBs 23:39 Exio4 shouldnÂ´t happen a lot with the latest git release 23:40 Peacock mbs = megabytes 23:40 Peacock or would have written mb/s 23:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: mbs would be megabits/sec. MBs would be megabytes/sec :P 23:40 PilzAdam you have to capitalize M and B 23:40 Exio4 Megabit, Megabyte 23:40 Exio4 Megaupload (?) 23:40 VanessaE megaupload is dead :) 23:40 Exio4 i know 23:40 VanessaE (long live whatever it was that replaced it) 23:40 PilzAdam Megaman 23:41 Peacock Marion Barry? is it time for another shipment already 23:41 Slain PilzAdam: The error hit again, and i disabled the beds mod and reloaded, and its still messed up 23:41 Slain background is grey 23:41 Peacock ok so at least timeout not due to size 23:41 Exio4 damn 23:41 PilzAdam Slain, teleport back and see if you get teleported far away again without the mod 23:41 VanessaE Peacock: nope, the size of the game just determines the download time, but it won't usually cause a timeout 23:42 Slain explain how? 23:42 Exio4 i don't get used to not have middle click paste 23:42 PilzAdam john_minetest, you forgot that the english language is all fucked up about units, in german you would be right 23:42 PilzAdam but the english wikipedia says mbs = megabit per second 23:42 Exio4 6inch+6inch = 1 feet 23:42 Exio4 that is fucked up. 23:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: even worse, mebi- vs mega 23:43 Peacock don't start a fight over my use of mbs :/ 23:43 Slain PilzAdam: What do you mean teleport back? 23:43 PilzAdam Slain, /teleport 0,10,0 23:44 Peacock those signs are only suggestions 23:44 PilzAdam john_minetest, my driving instructor says only "km" 23:44 PilzAdam "you can drive 50 km in the city" 23:44 VanessaE Slain: and then fly up a bit, in case you still end up underground 23:44 PilzAdam wtf?! 23:45 VanessaE well 50 km or 50 km/h is certainly pretty easily done in most cities :P 23:47 PilzAdam why doesnt the USA use SI? 23:47 VanessaE officially, it does. 23:47 VanessaE and in fact for a while even our speed limit signs were 23:47 Peacock SI? 23:47 VanessaE SI =metric 23:47 VanessaE for reasons of inertia and politics, it got changed back to imperial 23:47 PilzAdam Peacock, suddenly: wikipedia 23:47 Slain Ok, so when i fly up, i get up and i can see the sun and the sky, if its night stars and moon, im flown all the way to the top. i disable fly and the screen slowly transitions back into grey 23:48 Slain the only setting i have enabled is Preload Item Visuals 23:48 Peacock SI = spanish for yes, metric = english for metric :p 23:48 VanessaE Slain: the grey is a normal result of the map not loading, fwiw...why the map didn't load, is a different matter 23:48 VanessaE Peacock: SI != sÃ 23:48 Exio4 Peacock: spanish, too 23:48 Exio4 sÃ in spanish 23:48 Exio4 er, italian 23:48 PilzAdam john_minetest, do you know the fist formula to convert km/h in m/s? 23:48 Exio4 si in italian, sÃ in spanish 23:48 Peacock i dont have that symbol on my keyboard :/ 23:49 PilzAdam 0.3*v 23:49 VanessaE Peacock: X11 compose :) 23:49 PilzAdam john_minetest, PI * thumb, that is 23:49 VanessaE (I bound it to the "menu" key, since that's otherwise useless) 23:49 Guest48546 Does anyone know how to show a crafting recipe in github (wiki function) without using screenshots? 23:50 VanessaE Guest48546: the other common way is ascii art, e.g. 23:50 VanessaE C C C 23:50 VanessaE - S - 23:50 VanessaE - S - 23:50 Peacock ascii = sounds like ass key 23:50 VanessaE which becomes a stone pick 23:50 PilzAdam john_minetest, no; I calculate it once, "thumb" is something like 1.25 cmÂ² 23:51 PilzAdam +d 23:51 Guest48546 VannessaE: That doesn't work because it just shows it like this: c c c - s - - s - 23:51 VanessaE Guest48546: you have to surround the text with ``` 23:52 PilzAdam oh, I forgot to add "Official wiki syntax help channel" to the topic 23:52 PilzAdam my fault 23:52 Slain i understand that VanessaE, im here to try andfind a way to resolve this issue so i can play and save and not worry about gaming and no more playable world 23:52 VanessaE Guest48546: like this: http://pastebin.com/hBp1iLTA 23:52 PilzAdam john_minetest, my thumb is 2D.... 23:52 PilzAdam (its easier) 23:53 VanessaE Guest48546: github will render text that's bounded by ``` as fixed-width pre-formatted font, similar to

in html 23:53 PilzAdam john_minetest, TI 83? we had the TI Voyage 23:54 PilzAdam you can code in TI BASIC on it 23:54 PilzAdam I actually made a 2D minetest in it :D 23:55 PilzAdam it had one ASCII char per node 23:55 PilzAdam the worldgen took like 10 minutes to fill the whole display 23:55 PilzAdam (not perlin noise, of course) 23:55 Guest48546 VannessaE: Thanks! 23:56 PilzAdam and you got one FPS per second, which is quite optimized (its BASIC!) 23:56 VanessaE Guest48546: no prob. now fix your nick so we know who we're talking to :) 23:57 DanDuncombe I forgot to change it :) 23:57 VanessaE better. :) 23:57 PilzAdam TL;DR http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100938#p100938 23:57 PilzAdam can someone sum it up for me? 23:58 PilzAdam lets say its a turn based game ;-) 23:58 PilzAdam I think I got the source lying arround somewhere on my TC... 23:58 Slain so im stuck with this bug :( 23:59 Exio4 john_minetest: 1 frame per second per second? 23:59 Exio4 how does this work 23:59 Slain per seconds squared