Time Nick Message 00:12 zrokh "is it just me or is there a lot of excitement today" said nobody today 00:14 sad_mine_wanaB i just got a nice new laptop that refuses to run minetest. it always freezes/crashes somewhere between "Media" and "loading textures". could anyone help? 00:14 zrokh LOL 00:14 zrokh i have an idea 00:15 zrokh go to minecraft.net, download the .exe, buy minecraft, try if it works 00:15 sad_mine_wanaB im interested in minetest at this point 00:16 sad_mine_wanaB mintest DOES, however, run single player 00:16 PilzAdam sad_mine_wanaB, can you create some debug output? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 00:18 Ego I would like blocks the size of laid snow, but with different textures, more specifically a wood texture.. And can be lain sideways :O Is this available in some mod that anyone knows? 00:19 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Disallow the name 'singleplayer' in a multiplayer server 320a00e7c6 2013-07-11T17:15:09-07:00 http://git.io/PRawaA 00:19 VanessaE_ wooden slabs of that particular thickness are part of moreblocks. 00:19 Uberi|Fooooood pressure plates? 00:19 Uberi|Fooooood (mesecons, btw) 00:19 Ego Thanks! 00:19 Uberi|Fooooood no problem :) 00:19 Uberi|Fooooood remember that they aren't full slabs 00:20 VanessaE_ (moreblocks has quarter slabs that look like they're 2 pixels thcik 00:20 VanessaE_ thick* 00:21 PilzAdam 2 HDX pixels? 00:21 VanessaE_ 2 default pixels 00:22 sdzen you could do what I used to do, put them in a cloud jail that they couldn't die in, set the respawn area outside of the jail and teleport trusted players out 00:22 VanessaE_ er make that 4 pixels. 00:22 sdzen that system didnt work :) 00:23 sdzen but it was funny as hell to watch landmine scream in it 00:26 Uberi|Fooooood I bet it would be 00:30 sokomine you could offer him an area where he can grief :-) 00:31 sokomine cloud prisons for new players are no solution. you don't know beforehand if a player will grief or not. and good builders will most likely not want to stay on your server if all they can see is some cloud prison. not a very inviting place! 00:32 VanessaE_ bbl, my turn for food 00:35 sad_mine_wanaB is there anything i can do or download to make minecraft work with my graphics card? 00:36 Arkmabat Try directx mode 00:36 Arkmabat I find that better than opengl on my single core laptop. 00:36 kahrl minecraft? 00:36 Arkmabat Huh 00:37 Arkmabat Im sure he meant mt 00:37 Arkmabat For mc theres optifine mod 00:38 Arkmabat You could mod your gpu... Im considering royal bna mod for my laptop... 00:39 Arkmabat Is there a capture the flag mod? 00:39 PilzAdam yes, kaeza made one IIRC 00:40 Arkmabat :D Where is that located? 00:40 PilzAdam dunno 00:40 Arkmabat I shall hunt. Thanks 00:41 sad_mine_wanaB i have an nvidia gforce gt 650m 00:41 sad_mine_wanaB is that incompatible? 00:42 kahrl wasn't that rubenwardy with the ctf? 00:44 Arkmabat Ya its for intel gpus. Search around but be causous and use system restore point. Setting the app higher in the processor list might be better to try first. Mt is glitchy on singke core, there is a 3x3 texture pack that loads SUPER fast 00:45 sad_mine_wanaB Arkmabat: are you talking to me? 00:45 Arkmabat Ya 00:45 sad_mine_wanaB there's no way to download direct x and make it work"? 00:46 PilzAdam set video_driver = direct3d8 in minetest.conf 00:47 PilzAdam but disable shaders then, they wont work with directx 00:47 iqualfragile wut? 8? 00:48 PilzAdam iqualfragile, math.random(8, 9) 00:48 iqualfragile gl. 00:48 Arkmabat Ya try that sad mine 00:49 Arkmabat Its not using directx until you tell it to. 00:49 sad_mine_wanaB should i add that math.random bit? 00:50 Arkmabat No, thats somebody elsr 00:50 sad_mine_wanaB ok 00:50 Arkmabat Put that in minetest.conf 00:51 sad_mine_wanaB ok i deleted the line where it said video_driver = opengl or something to that effect and replaced it with what you told me to 00:52 sad_mine_wanaB it's still not working 00:52 Arkmabat Try it out!! 00:52 Arkmabat What does it say? 00:52 Arkmabat Awwe 00:52 sad_mine_wanaB minetest not responding 00:52 PilzAdam sad_mine_wanaB, it should output a line starting with "Using renderer:" in the console, can you paste that line? 00:53 Arkmabat Mine didn't even have that line. Do you have the newest version? 00:53 sad_mine_wanaB opengl 4.2.0 00:53 PilzAdam then you have set the setting wronh 00:53 PilzAdam *wrong 00:53 Arkmabat Hmmm ya it shouldnt be using that. What version of mt do you have 00:54 sad_mine_wanaB 0.4.7 00:54 PilzAdam pastebin your minetest.conf 00:54 sad_mine_wanaB ok one sec 00:56 sad_mine_wanaB oh wait guys, it's being saved with ".example" at the end. how do i remove that? 00:56 sad_mine_wanaB im on win 8 00:57 Arkmabat Ah! 00:57 PilzAdam just save it as minetest.conf 00:57 Arkmabat Just backspace so it is .conf 00:58 sad_mine_wanaB when i try to save it as that, exactly as you wrote it above, it says "minetest.conf.example already exists, are you sure you want to save" 00:59 Arkmabat Edit the other file then. The one that ends in conf 00:59 PilzAdam thats the downside of windows, the users of it dont even know how to handle files 00:59 sad_mine_wanaB there is only one file and it ends in .conf.example 00:59 Arkmabat video_driver = direct3d9 01:00 PilzAdam sad_mine_wanaB, then you obviously have to create it 01:00 Arkmabat Oh, because mt hasnt run succesdfulky yet 01:01 sad_mine_wanaB thanks. could you please let me know what folder i should create it in? 01:01 Arkmabat Where example is, the first folder you open 01:01 sad_mine_wanaB and should that single line "video_driver = direct3d8" be the only thing in the folder? 01:01 PilzAdam just where the .example one is 01:02 Arkmabat Mmm try it 01:03 Arkmabat Id copy all of the example with that line 01:04 PilzAdam Arkmabat, you dont have to 01:04 PilzAdam that just bloats the file 01:04 Arkmabat Good to know 01:04 PilzAdam and lines starting with # are ignored anyway, so its just a huge mess 01:05 sad_mine_wanaB its still hanging at "connecting to server" 01:05 Arkmabat We re getting further 01:06 PilzAdam we still need the debug output to properly help you 01:07 sad_mine_wanaB it says using renderer opengl 4.2.0 01:08 VanessaE_ back 01:08 sad_mine_wanaB wb 01:08 PilzAdam sad_mine_wanaB, can you create some debug output? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 01:30 PilzAdam bye 01:47 Johnyknowhow Hello, chatting of my iPad. 01:49 Johnyknowhow I hope that RealBadAngel can get some sort of guide working for his mod technic 01:49 Johnyknowhow It's annoying to not be able to understand what half the things do 01:51 Johnyknowhow Hmm, the users online tab on the left of this window won't work for my iPad 01:51 Johnyknowhow *right 01:55 Johnyknowhow And how can I see a irc chat in a server? Someone sent a meesage to a server I was in once, through irc without being in the server. 01:56 ShadowNinja Johnyknowhow: Do you mean to a channel without being on it? 01:58 Johnyknowhow I gusse, I'm new to irc. I was playing in the server, and someone said something through irc without actually being on the server. 01:58 pehjota ShadowNinja: I think he means sending a message from IRC to a Minetest server. 01:58 Johnyknowhow Yeah 01:59 Johnyknowhow Is t 01:59 ShadowNinja Johnyknowhow: The IRC mod. You can chat on my server if you like with it. 01:59 ShadowNinja irc.inchra.net #minetest 02:02 Johnyknowhow Cool, I think I'll ask Rancon to get that mod for his sky block server, cause I like to chat with him about mods and I'm typing on my iPad, and there is only one computer in the house that can run multiplayer minetest 02:02 Johnyknowhow And how would I chat from irc with that? 02:04 Johnyknowhow I got the scrolbarrs 02:05 Johnyknowhow To work, just use two fingers. ._. 02:05 kaeza that's what she said 02:05 kaeza hi all 02:05 Johnyknowhow Hi k 02:06 Johnyknowhow ... My cat is sitting on my head. 02:09 Johnyknowhow Wow,I noticed alot of people In here that I don't like for griefing/messing with rancon p's server. Oh well. It's only a game with a small community. 02:21 Johnyknowhow Rrrr I want to get on a server! 03:06 Arkmabat Ke 04:06 VanessaE_ zzz 04:14 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Clean up bumpmap code a bit fc6725f14e 2013-07-11T21:11:46-07:00 http://git.io/pM7hQw 04:49 sfan5 hi 08:35 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Cow Appreciation Day! (With a shout out to Embrace Your Geekness Day tomorrow) :-D 09:17 kaeza mornings 10:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:49 sfan5 hi 10:49 Calinou hi 10:50 kaeza hi 10:54 PilzAdam Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3487 -> offtopic 10:55 Calinou lol 10:55 Calinou PilzAdam: put in trash 11:08 Yepoleb hello 11:08 Yepoleb Do animated textures have a variable amount of frames? 11:08 sfan5 yes 11:10 Yepoleb thanks 11:10 Calinou Yepoleb: any amount of frames will work 11:10 Calinou note that older cards may not support textures with a height more than 8192 pixels, and more than 16384 pixels for recent cards 11:11 Calinou (not sure if you can do more if the texture isn't square) 11:11 Calinou nope. 11:13 PilzAdam john_minetest, try passing each frame through an picture -> ascii converter ;-) 11:14 Yepoleb even a static frame? 11:35 kaeza http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=413#comic 13:07 PilzAdam Calinou, just ban him: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99308#p99308 13:11 Calinou banning for that? not really 13:11 Calinou remember, some people can be really stupid 13:12 PilzAdam "being stupid", "double posting of topics", "creating topics in wrong section" <- choose a reason 13:13 iqualfragile i do not think that is enought for a permanent ban 13:21 RealBadAngel hi 13:21 Calinou PilzAdam: none of these are reasons for a ban, except if the offense is repeated 13:22 Calinou john_minetest: lol 13:25 iqualfragile hi 13:25 PilzAdam Calinou, and now? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99313#p99313 13:27 Calinou lol 13:27 iqualfragile i do not think that he will add to the minetest community 13:27 iqualfragile ban him for like a year or so 13:28 Calinou lol 13:29 Calinou well, done 13:29 Calinou 2 day ban for now 13:38 Ego Is there like a /spawn command? 13:39 Calinou Ego: by default, no 13:39 Calinou some mods add this functionality 13:41 Ego Aw rats, thanks Calinou 13:41 Ego Trying to trap a sheep, they are proving annoying! 13:49 VanessaE_ good morning all 13:49 Ego If I trap it in my house will it despawn anyway? 13:49 VanessaE_ it will if you don't feed it 13:49 Calinou oh 13:49 VanessaE_ (right click on it with wheat in your hand) 14:18 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: stfu 14:18 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. 14:18 ShadowNinja There is a upstream bug that causes the initial sleep to fail. 14:18 VanessaE_ hell of a command to give a bot :) 14:20 ShadowNinja It is an alias that I made. ,,(help stfu) 14:20 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (stfu ) -- Alias for "lobotomy add". 14:21 VanessaE_ heh 14:21 khonkhortisan Parasite_! 14:25 PilzAdam spam? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99316#p99316 14:25 PilzAdam looks different than usual 14:26 VanessaE_ questionable. 14:26 VanessaE_ delete it but don't ban. 14:26 VanessaE_ see what he does. 14:27 iqualfragile when was the last time you have seen jeija? 14:27 VanessaE_ on here? not in weeks 14:27 VanessaE_ I see commits from him on mesecons on occasion 14:27 VanessaE_ can't remember when his last one was though 14:28 iqualfragile ok… 14:29 pehjota PilzAdam: The blog linked in that forum post is about actual sofas – unrelated to Minetest. 14:30 pehjota Spam. 14:30 iqualfragile yep, smam 14:30 iqualfragile we need to change the captcha 14:30 PilzAdam ^ thexyz 14:31 VanessaE_ deleted and banned. 14:31 iqualfragile no 14:31 iqualfragile there are even 13 year olds playing minetest 14:32 iqualfragile and they might have problems solving that 14:33 pehjota Q: "What is the name of this game?" A: "Minetest". 14:33 PilzAdam john_minetest, no, use Σ[x=0;5](x) 14:33 pehjota CAPTCHA ^^ 14:38 Ego PilzAdam, these posts by Dj22, I'd like to use the trapdoor as a mod, I put that into an init.lua and it told me it was malconfigured. Any idea? ( http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5254 ) 14:38 PilzAdam wooow, xchat bug, that ")" is black not red 14:39 khonkhortisan it's supposed to be red? 14:39 PilzAdam highlights are red, yes 14:39 khonkhortisan oh - I thought you had syntax highlighting 14:39 Ego Oh, I wrote a script that makes linkification blue and underlined, and I spaced the ) away from it so it wouldn't be colored (and on some clients added to the link), at the end of a link, it sends an original text code. 14:40 khonkhortisan We here on this channel are colourblind 14:40 PilzAdam Ego, what exactly does it tell you? can post the last lines of debug.txt? 14:41 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, I "c" what you did there :D 14:41 Ego Sure, sec. 14:42 PilzAdam john_cephalopoda, how about stop DDoSing them? 14:42 Ego http://pastebin.com/69MabtWF 14:42 Ego All I did was add the trap door post of his to an init.lua 14:42 PilzAdam Ego, whats the mod called you put that code in? 14:42 Ego Made a directory calling it trapdoor 14:43 PilzAdam then go to all register_node() calls and set the modname in front of the ":" to "trapdoor" 14:44 PilzAdam i.e. s/"blocks:/"trapdoor:/g 14:44 Ego Ah, otherwise that should have been in the blocks, I see. 14:45 Ego I just started this stuff yesterday, this is loads of fun. =P 14:46 PilzAdam VanessaE_, /nick VanessaE 14:46 VanessaE_ too lazy. 14:46 VanessaE_ (requires fucking about with logging back into nickserv) 14:47 PilzAdam havent you registered VanessaE_ as a group member of VanessaE ? 14:48 VanessaE hm, guess I already did. 14:48 VanessaE *shrug* 14:48 VanessaE I can't remember what I do from one day to the next anyways 14:49 PilzAdam oh, yesterday you told me you want to send me all your money 14:50 Ego Instead of doing "minetest.register_node("trapdoor:trap_door", {" can I do "doors:register_door("doors:trap_door", {" and throw it into the "doors" directory init? 14:51 Ego Also, if you type doors too much, it doesn't look like a real word anymore. =P 14:51 VanessaE heh, maybe if you turn that around a bit :) 14:51 PilzAdam Ego, I suggest you to not change games 14:51 Ego Ah, I got the doors here, but they don't work as doors (open/close) 14:51 Ego Trying to make a trap door to my island. 14:52 PilzAdam and doors:register_door() can be used in all mods, just add "doors" to depends.txt 14:52 VanessaE s/add \"doors\"/add \"doors?\"/ 14:53 PilzAdam VanessaE, then youd have to check if the function is not nil and have fallback code ready... too complicated here 14:54 VanessaE well in this case I suppose he does have to hard-depend, unless his mod provides enough other stuff besides a trap door. 14:55 Ego Hm, when I punch the trap door (because right clicking it didn't open it) it says: :54:24: ERROR[main]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "trapdoor:trap_door1" at (36,3,-46) (block (2,0,-3)) 14:55 Ego So much effort just to get a trap door! Hehe 14:56 Ego Wow, these trap doors are light sources for some reason, lol. 14:59 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, you still owe me a lighting fix ;-) 15:02 RealBadAngel yes i know 15:02 NakedFury hello minetest irc people 15:02 NakedFury o/ 15:03 RealBadAngel but the fix is related to the complete rework of shaders code and as a side effect tile 15:03 RealBadAngel i think i wont be ready to publish it before 1-2 weeks from now 15:04 RealBadAngel its a total rework of many tile/shaders/mesh code 15:06 NakedFury in this rework you did, did you make the games lightning "come" from the sun so shadows look realistic? or you didnt touch that yet? 15:08 PilzAdam what do people think about insta-dig in creative mode? 15:08 RealBadAngel NakedFury, im using by now fake light sources 15:09 NakedFury like it 15:09 NakedFury ohh ok RBA 15:09 RealBadAngel but im going to implement node pos based light sources 15:09 RealBadAngel +sun 15:10 RealBadAngel fake still, but not breakin current light system 15:11 NakedFury its hard to switch it so the sun is the light source? 15:12 RealBadAngel not really hard, but minetest uses different philosophy 15:13 RealBadAngel for example, all the bump mapping, parallax occlusion, water reflections are given away for free in irrlicht 15:13 RealBadAngel all those effect require just to define parameters of node 15:14 RealBadAngel but whole the world of minetest is just a one irrlicht's scene node 15:15 RealBadAngel its like in history of a mankind 15:15 RealBadAngel some1 ate an apple and we have to live with it 15:15 RealBadAngel ;) 15:17 NakedFury but whole the world of minetest is just a one irrlicht's scene node. what does this mean? 15:17 NakedFury one irrlicht scene? 15:17 Ego I can't get these trapdoors to work as doors =/ 15:18 Ego I'm sure this is racism. 15:29 Ego I don't have public checked, but 5 people have logged on to my server.. 15:30 VanessaE "public" just means you announce to the master server list. 15:30 VanessaE it doesn't control whether people can actually reach you 15:31 Ego Not sure how they keep finding me, though. 15:31 VanessaE that's more a function of your router, firewall settings etc 15:32 * PilzAdam is using IPv6 for singleplayer to increase security (since my ISP doesnt support it) 15:34 sokomine don't you want them to find you? :-) 15:38 sdzen prolly not quite instant in creative pilzadam, abit faster then it is now maybe 15:38 sdzen after all instant digging can lead to a lack of precision 15:39 PilzAdam everything that is not insta-dig will result in different dig times for e.g. obsidian 15:39 PilzAdam and there is a builtin delay of 0.15 seconds before digging the next node 15:43 thexyz PilzAdam: http://habrastorage.org/storage/c40ce7b0/f41b8c61/99e5be33/d2b5cc10.png 15:44 thexyz good enough? 15:45 PilzAdam -21.33 15:45 proller PilzAdam, make 6to4 tunnel and use ipv6 15:47 PilzAdam thexyz, everyone with GeoGebra and 11 years of maths in germany can solve this 15:47 kaeza PilzAdam, re: instadig, it's fine I guess 15:47 PilzAdam bbl 15:47 kaeza ... 15:48 kaeza meh was going to suggest something, but whatever 15:59 sokomine is there a way to find out if a texutre exists? 15:59 VanessaE attempt to open it? :) 16:00 sokomine not very practical :-) hm. ok, i could do that....it only needs to be checked at mod start 16:08 Jordach hey VanessaE 16:10 VanessaE hi 16:10 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99003#p99003 16:11 VanessaE doesn't look HDX at all to me. 16:11 Jordach look at the clothing detail 16:11 Jordach (or the jeans in this example.) 16:12 VanessaE oh I see it now 16:12 Jordach VanessaE, big pixels + high detail 16:26 Jordach Skinning Experiment; http://i.imgur.com/MXgEdSc.png 16:28 sfan5 Jordach: I want that skin 16:28 ShadowNinja Rollback is slow enough to ping out my server on even short rollbacks. 16:28 Jordach sfan5, heh 16:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DYSfuGg.png 16:32 webdesigner97_ kaeza? I need your help... 16:32 Jordach sfan5, idk if our engine supports model alpha used like that; i know it doesn't like semi-transparencies on models 16:32 sfan5 Jordach: try it, may work 16:32 kaeza hey webdesigner97_ 16:32 kaeza what do you need? 16:32 webdesigner97_ VE told me that you made the code for homedecor's oven 16:33 kaeza yup 16:33 kaeza well, almost 16:33 webdesigner97_ Now I want to redefine the node inside my new mod, but the game crashes 16:33 kaeza it's just copypasta from the default furnace 16:33 webdesigner97_ my new code (simple): http://pastebin.com/QyGMb5cn 16:33 webdesigner97_ but the error message still comes from oven.lua:248 in homedecor 16:34 webdesigner97_ it says that fuel is nil 16:34 webdesigner97_ how can that be? I redefined the node.. 16:34 kaeza yeah, but you are not setting the 'fuel' meta string 16:35 webdesigner97_ what's that? 16:36 webdesigner97_ is it https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/oven.lua#L33 ? 16:36 VanessaE well, lines 29, 32 and 33. 16:37 webdesigner97_ ok, those 3 lines 16:37 VanessaE so in your case if you tack on lines 32 and 33 inside your on_construct, it may work 16:37 webdesigner97_ I'll try it put 16:37 webdesigner97_ *out 16:37 kaeza err... well, an inventory rather 16:37 webdesigner97_ One last question: 16:37 Jordach :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX8MOSAkLsI 16:37 webdesigner97_ what's hacky_swap_node() ? 16:38 kaeza it's... a hacky function to swap nodes :D 16:38 VanessaE I'm not sure, it's a function to...yeah 16:38 VanessaE something from default. 16:38 * kaeza reiterates his suggestion to export that as minetest.swap_node() 16:39 kaeza its hacky 16:39 VanessaE better would be an engine function that handles the task the "right" way 16:39 kaeza hehe right 16:39 VanessaE (by merely changing the mesh/textures, without touching the metadata) 16:40 webdesigner97_ oh ok 16:40 webdesigner97_ same error: http://pastebin.com/QyGMb5cn 16:40 kaeza webdesigner97_, what it does is set a node and transfer all the metadata 16:40 webdesigner97_ ok 16:41 webdesigner97_ I'll use my own node and override homedecor:oven later 16:42 ShadowNinja Wonderfull job rollback. Don't fix it, just blast a big hole in the middle of it. http://imgur.com/AMc58DT 16:42 VanessaE webdesigner97_: when you get it working, make it a pull request against homedecor if you can do so without breaking your proposed model 16:42 VanessaE s/model/functional model/ 16:43 kaeza webdesigner97_, can you test something? 16:44 kaeza change this line: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/oven.lua#L248 16:44 webdesigner97_ sure 16:44 kaeza to: if fuel and (fuel.time <= 0) then 16:44 kaeza err 16:44 kaeza if (not fuel) or (fuel.time <= 0) then 16:45 kaeza random fact: 0 in Lua is true 16:46 VanessaE ah, I shoulda remembered that ABM 16:47 webdesigner97_ ok, the game doesn't crash anymore :D 16:47 webdesigner97_ now I can start my mod :D thx very much! 16:48 kaeza VanessaE, your turn to patch :D 16:50 kaeza webdesigner97_, does the oven work correctly now? 16:50 webdesigner97_ it did, until now... 16:50 webdesigner97_ same error 16:50 webdesigner97_ w8 16:51 kaeza ZOMG 16:51 webdesigner97_ ok, no it doesn't 16:51 webdesigner97_ why does it still call homedecor's functions.... 16:51 kaeza can you pastebin the error? 16:51 webdesigner97_ sure 16:52 kaeza because you are defining your node in homedecor's namespace :P 16:52 VanessaE fixed in homedecor git. 16:52 webdesigner97_ http://pastebin.com/BzwPAbhk 16:52 VanessaE shit 16:52 * webdesigner97_ will register his own node 16:52 webdesigner97_ ? 16:53 VanessaE broke it 16:53 kaeza webdesigner97_, are you sure you patched the thing as I said? 16:53 webdesigner97_ yep: 16:53 VanessaE copy&paste error. fix force pushed to homedecor git. 16:54 webdesigner97_ if (not fuel) and (fuel.time <= 0) then 16:56 kaeza ... 16:56 kaeza [13:43:49] if (not fuel) or (fuel.time <= 0) then 16:56 kaeza read again :) 16:57 webdesigner97_ oops 16:58 webdesigner97_ lol, there's still the infotext of homedecor: oven out of fuel 16:59 kaeza That's because the ABM is in charge of updating it 16:59 webdesigner97_ which ABM? 16:59 kaeza (the one defined in homedecor) 16:59 webdesigner97_ ah 16:59 webdesigner97_ so I'll create my own node for now 16:59 kaeza just copy & paste the entire file and edit as required 16:59 VanessaE webdesigner97_: like I said, why not just make your changes directly to homedecor and pull-request? 17:00 webdesigner97_ I don't have github and the mod is just an experiment because I'm completely new to formspec and inventory ;) 17:03 webdesigner97_ sorry. gtg now 17:03 webdesigner97_ bye 17:03 kaeza cya 17:03 webdesigner97_ and thx for your help! 17:03 VanessaE bye 17:03 kaeza np 17:03 VanessaE yw 17:03 kaeza I just had another wacky idea 17:03 VanessaE ? 17:04 kaeza homedecor_register_furnace() :D 17:04 VanessaE go for it :) 17:04 kaeza to easily register new furnace-like nodes 17:04 VanessaE I believe you have commit access :) 17:04 kaeza much like register_door and register_sign 17:04 kaeza yup :) 17:08 * Jordach_ cuddles MinetestBot 17:13 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 seems to be down 17:17 Ego Anyone know of a mod for perimeter/authorization? 17:17 Ego Like, people can't build on area you claim, et cetera 17:18 Ego 'cause I might just kill this kid, griefing me with lava. >_> 17:18 Kacey node ownership 17:18 Kacey protection mod 17:18 Kacey just look it up 17:18 Ego Will do! 17:19 Ego There we go, that's what I need, thank you. 17:21 ShadowNinja ShadowBot`: nick ShadowBot 18:17 OldCoder Hi 18:17 OldCoder john_minetest, My new server is powerful but MT is down until my host returns from an international trip. He needs to switch to a different ISP. 18:19 Taoki OldCoder: Hi. Been a while, glad to see you active again (and still with Minetest). Hope things are well 18:21 kaeza $ man 4 Okay 18:21 kaeza No manual entry for Okay in section 4 18:33 OldCoder 18:33 OldCoder Taoki, Over time. 18:38 Jordach OldCoder, is the server a Amazon VPS, or a custom one 18:38 Jordach either way, i wanna know 18:40 OldCoder Jordach, the new server is not a VPS. It is powerful to run VPSes. 18:40 OldCoder It is an eight core system with 32GB of RAM 18:41 * Jordach droold 18:42 Jordach drools* 18:42 Jordach you should try a test minetest server 18:42 Jordach (and make separate VPS'es for each server.) 18:42 Jordach thus allowing different admins to control and install mods 18:42 Jordach (using Debian 6 + SSH) 18:42 sfan5 Jordach: /me wants to write a software for that 18:43 Jordach P-P-P-P Pick up a Python 18:43 sfan5 Y-Y-Y-Y Yisss 18:44 sfan5 Jordach: with a nice web interface? 18:45 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif 18:45 Jordach if you're like a me; then i want full (sudo) access to the system 18:45 Jordach because i prefer my uptime 18:46 sfan5 Jordach: with a nice web interface YT 18:46 sfan5 wat 18:46 sfan5 sfan5: seriously brain, why? 18:46 Jordach http://xkcd.com/705/ 18:46 sfan5 sfan5: can't you be not stupid one time.. ? 18:47 Ego Heh 18:48 Jordach honestly, the VPS provided by StarBlessed has almost 100% uptime 18:49 sfan5 OldCoder: everything works except MT? 18:53 Jordach unusual; putty wont connect to my vps 18:55 OldCoder 18:55 OldCoder Hmm? 18:55 OldCoder Allow an hour or two 18:55 OldCoder sfan5, I will explain below: 18:55 sfan5 ok 18:55 Jordach OldCoder, the website on apache isn't responding either 18:56 Ego http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 Jordach 18:56 OldCoder Jordach, k hold on. sfan5, Host is sharp and helpful. His upstream ISP is not. They use crappy equipment. Host has left on a trip. As an emergency measure he is routing things through alternate paths. As a consequence I have limited ports until he returns. Basically Web and ssh. 18:57 OldCoder So MT will run 18:57 OldCoder But I don't have ports for it ATM 18:57 OldCoder john_minetest, will consider and comment shortly 18:57 OldCoder Oops 18:57 OldCoder Jordach, not john_minetest 18:57 Jordach :P 18:57 Jordach Ego, hm? 18:59 sfan5 OldCoder: I have a pretty stable way of piping TCP from any host to any other server, but not UDP... 19:01 OldCoder Yep 19:01 OldCoder There are a number of approaches. Best is simply to have host change his upstream ISP 19:01 OldCoder This should happen, I hope, next week 19:01 OldCoder Waiting to find out 19:02 OldCoder Jordach, your suggestion about test server is interesting 19:02 Jordach OldCoder, then we start a fresh 0.4.7 world: OpenMines II 19:02 OldCoder Jordach, I won't update until LevelDB is supported 19:02 Jordach then say -- upload your worlds to your apache instance 19:02 Jordach and i'll store them until we need them again 19:03 OldCoder Jordach, Apache instance? 19:03 OldCoder What do you mean? 19:03 Jordach /var/www 19:03 OldCoder Do you mean Amazon? 19:03 Jordach yes 19:03 OldCoder Not following 19:04 OldCoder I don't use either Amazon or Apache 19:04 OldCoder Well, Amazon a little 19:04 sfan5 OldCoder: any other open ports besides 80 and 22? 19:04 Ego Jordach, I asked earlier if you could make 1 person creative and the rest not, you responded with nope.avi 19:04 Ego That mod indeed does that. 19:04 Ego Figured I'd inform ya. ^__^ 19:04 Jordach Ego, i thought you meant installing it 19:04 sfan5 Ego: he meant that there is no official support for that 19:05 Jordach :P 19:05 Ego oic 19:05 OldCoder sfan5, there are probably ports in a specific range higher up; I'd need to check 19:05 OldCoder But I don't want to move the worlds and documentation around when it's just for a few days 19:08 sfan5 OldCoder: /me has got an idea how one _could_ reliably pipe minetest traffic from mt.viewskew.com to your VPA through and UdpPipe and to the actualy server without moving any stuff around(keep in mind there is a could in this sentence) 19:08 sfan5 *actual 19:08 sfan5 *VPS 19:09 Jordach sfan5, the server isn't responding AT ALL 19:09 Jordach and yes, i tried the IP 19:09 Jordach http://mt.viewskew.com/ 19:09 sfan5 Jordach: hm, all you would need is 0 open ports 19:09 Jordach should load a large table 19:09 sfan5 .. 19:10 Jordach the network seems down for that node im using. 19:10 sfan5 the "host" server needs open ports, the "client" server need 0 open ports 19:13 * VanessaE is back (yay.) 19:14 * PilzAdam too (double yay) 19:14 * MinetestBot purrs (triple yay) 19:15 * john_minetest puts a kitten on Calinou's head (quadrouple yay) 19:15 * VanessaE puts Calinou (with kitten) on MinetestBot's head 19:15 PilzAdam Calinou! (quintuple yay) 19:16 * Calinou removes kittens, puts ponies instead 19:16 OldCoder sfan5, if there is an extended delay that may be fine. But it should only be a little while longer. 19:16 OldCoder Ponies! 19:16 OldCoder That would be a pile indeed 19:16 VanessaE OldCoder: your kitten pile is overflowing again. 19:16 OldCoder MinetestBot purrs? 19:16 sfan5 yes 19:16 OldCoder VanessaE, I wish to find them homes 19:16 OldCoder Virtual homes should do right? 19:16 VanessaE yup 19:17 VanessaE bear in mind, Kacey hacked the kitten generator to run on bones, so they're piling up faster than usual ;) 19:17 OldCoder !! 19:17 OldCoder http://haggishell.com/images/130701_kitty.jpg 19:17 OldCoder There 19:17 OldCoder One of them is happy now! 19:17 OldCoder 19:17 * OldCoder shrugs 19:17 VanessaE bad shadowbot! 19:17 OldCoder Four lines is a flood? Oh, well 19:17 Calinou you said 5 19:17 OldCoder Did the kitten make it through 19:17 Calinou you said a space :P 19:18 OldCoder Ugh; to coin a phrase. Very well. 19:18 Taoki f 19:18 Taoki l 19:18 Taoki o 19:18 Taoki o 19:18 Taoki d 19:18 OldCoder Hm? 19:18 OldCoder 5 it is 19:18 Taoki Heh, it got me too :P 19:18 OldCoder wb 19:18 Calinou le kicked Taoki 19:18 Taoki tx 19:18 OldCoder http://haggishell.com/images/130701_kitty.jpg 19:18 Calinou first time you probably get kicked from here :P 19:18 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ Every kitten should be happy. Calinou, shrug. 19:19 Taoki Right, I didn't even realize :P 19:19 OldCoder That one was rescued a few weeks ago 19:19 sfan5 OldCoder: the piping wouldn't work easy as well: Minetest Player <-> [{VPS w/ all ports open} <-> TCPPipe <-> Connproxy-Server] <-> Internet <-> [{VPS w/ 0 ports open} <-> Connproxy-Client <-> UDPPipe <-> Minetest server] 19:19 * Calinou is playing wolfgame: #wolfgame 19:19 Calinou well, waiting for players, there are only 2 right now 19:25 Calinou john_minetest, http://wolfbot.epicquinn.net/ 19:25 Calinou it's a "detective" game 19:26 OldCoder sfan5, I am confident that I could find a way to redirect things 19:26 PilzAdam echo " YES!!!" >> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99337#p99337 19:26 OldCoder Even at the UDP level. But there should be no need. 19:27 Calinou lol PilzAdam 19:27 Calinou O_o 19:27 Calinou it's not a drinking game, lol 19:28 Jordach OldCoder, hagi shell.com? 19:28 * Jordach meows 19:28 * MinetestBot pets Jordach 19:29 * Jordach hugs MinetestBot 19:29 Jordach who's a good girl 19:29 * MinetestBot giggles 19:29 Jordach i treat bots with respect 19:29 Jordach esp. ones with @behind them :) 19:29 Taoki Jordach: That reminds me of Tears of Steel (Blender movie if you seen it) 19:29 Jordach anyways; back to my Sci-Fi shooter 19:29 Jordach Taoki, saw that an hour ago 19:30 * MinetestBot randomly meows 19:30 Taoki fun fun 19:30 * MinetestBot puts a pony on Taoki's head 19:30 Jordach think Halo + CoD + RE + Xonotic + 64 Players 19:30 Jordach in 8 teams of 8 19:30 MinetestBot --- Vote which pony now! --- 19:30 Taoki Our bots are bronies too :) 19:30 Calinou Taoki, "fun fun fun" :> 19:30 Jordach and each team does not have the same weapons 19:31 Taoki Jordach: Interesting... got a link and screenshots? 19:31 sfan5 since when does MinetestBot obey what Calinou says 19:31 sfan5 ? 19:31 Jordach Taoki, not yet 19:31 MinetestBot why do you care? 19:31 Jordach i plan on doing everything slowly as of yet 19:32 PilzAdam Jordach GF approves 19:32 PilzAdam +'s 19:33 Calinou haha 19:33 Calinou new sig get! 19:33 Jordach <- has a girlfriend 19:33 PilzAdam suuuuuuuuuuuuure 19:33 Jordach <- also goes fast; should get some grease lightning 19:34 Jordach :D 19:51 OldCoder Jordach, haggis is a Scottish food. It is just a fun phrase. 19:51 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/issues/53#issuecomment-20900132 19:54 sokomine oh...we started with kittens...now entire ponys are placed on peoples' heads? sounds...heavy :-) 19:55 sokomine question: how do i get the image how a block would look like in the inventory? 19:55 Calinou according to xonotic, lightest pony is 41kg, heaviest 52kg :> 19:55 sokomine a pny that only weights 52 kg? that sounds a bit too low 19:56 sokomine they carry children (and sometimes even lightwight adults?) - those would weight more than the pony. maybe that's the value for newborn ones 19:59 sokomine ah. minetest.inventorycube will do 20:02 Jordach ehm WAT 20:02 Jordach * ChanServ has quit (shutting down) 20:02 Calinou no services? 20:02 Calinou :D 20:02 PilzAdam !op 20:02 sfan5 !op 20:02 sfan5 OP Party time! 20:02 VanessaE !op 20:02 PilzAdam haha 20:02 VanessaE you suck, MinetestBot. :) 20:02 Jordach dont forget me 20:03 Kacey OP PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 20:03 sfan5 !op Jordach 20:03 sfan5 !op VanessaE 20:04 Jordach OP fistbump 20:04 Kacey what about me? 20:04 sfan5 Kacey: no u 20:04 PilzAdam Kacey, you can be happy to not be muted 20:04 Calinou nickserv is also down 20:04 Calinou BAN EVASION PARTY 20:04 Jordach DUN DUN DURR 20:04 Calinou 20:05 Calinou really, #minecraft will suffer again 8) 20:05 Jordach let's raid #minecraft 20:05 sfan5 !voice Calinou Kacey Exio4 20:05 Calinou I would have to reconnect :P 20:05 sfan5 Jordach: they have votd-bot now 20:05 Jordach votd-bot? 20:05 sfan5 !op 20:05 sfan5 * votd-bot gives op to Mustek 20:05 Jordach oh, OP bot 20:05 * Calinou plays wolfgame, is dead 20:06 Jordach sfan5, wanna suggest a skin for MinetestBot 20:06 MinetestBot I don't play Minetest, so I don't need a skin 20:06 Jordach oh, there chanserv is 20:07 sfan5 !devoice Calinou Exio4 Kacey 20:08 * Jordach hangs OP Jacket on the wall; where it usually hangs 20:09 * Calinou steals OP jacket 20:09 * Calinou cloaks 20:10 * Jordach stabs Calinou through the chest 20:10 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif 20:11 Taoki MinetestBot: You should play the game you're a bot of 20:11 Calinou he should play #wolfgame 20:11 Calinou he would probably die at first night, though 20:11 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/QAGluY6.gif 20:13 VanessaE hah 20:13 VanessaE ain't it the truth. 20:14 Calinou lol 20:15 Jordach you can even hear the noise that the pixar lamp makes 20:16 * Jordach eats chocolate chip cookie 20:16 Jordach nom nom nom 20:17 Jordach ShadowBot should be invisible to the channel :P 20:17 PilzAdam ShadowBot, hide! 20:17 PilzAdam doesnt work :-/ 20:18 Jordach because shadow = ninja = unseen 20:18 Jordach mmmm, cookie was delicious 20:21 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver mods announse, ipv6, better curl errors ac7a44792c 2013-07-12T13:19:05-07:00 http://git.io/l91NUA 20:21 proller http://servers.minetest.net/ first ipv6 server ! 20:22 * Calinou tries to connect to it 20:22 Calinou [finger face] 20:22 Calinou inb4 crash 20:23 VanessaE no worky 20:23 VanessaE (probably because I'm not IPv6-compliant over here anyway :) ) 20:23 Calinou my ISP supports it, but no reason to enable it 20:23 Calinou they can feel free to make ipv6 an epic fail by putting NAT again 8) 20:24 Calinou dat IP length 20:24 Calinou dat minimal, too :P 20:25 proller working for me 20:25 Jordach 1.2.3.4 is mine 20:27 proller 255* 1/3 20:29 Jordach that's binary! 20:34 Jordach MinetestBot, http://i.imgur.com/2mRf5MK.png 20:34 Calinou john_minetest, +1 20:34 Calinou ipv6 was probably lead dev'd by mesa or gallium3D devs 20:34 Calinou :> 20:34 Jordach alphanumeric cods 20:34 Jordach codes* 20:34 Calinou it's harder to pronounce, too 20:35 Calinou but if you get used to it, it's fine 20:36 Jordach but google.com is easier than eofsbfsbndfvsnfsdf 20:38 Jordach Target Aquired: http://i.imgur.com/fBJeBc8.png 20:38 kaeza fek 20:39 Calinou haha 20:39 kaeza VanessaE, code is almost ready 20:39 Jordach Calinou, want? 20:39 VanessaE ok 20:39 kaeza now for some reason furnaces don't want to cook :( 20:39 Calinou nah 20:39 Jordach i abused alpha 20:40 kaeza VanessaE, I'll push to my repo just for reviewing 20:40 kaeza do not pull yet 20:40 Calinou that's what she said 20:46 diemartin VanessaE, https://github.com/kaeza/homedecor/commit/ed685d0abf57ab421e7db434f920dbf74ac4e86e 20:46 diemartin what do you think? 20:46 VanessaE looking.. 20:47 Jordach I AM NOT A MORON!! CAN A MORON DO THIS!! http://i.imgur.com/7xhkmbU.png 20:48 kaeza here's how you define new furnaces: https://github.com/kaeza/homedecor/commit/ed685d0abf57ab421e7db434f920dbf74ac4e86e#L0R52 20:48 kaeza and here are some examples: https://github.com/kaeza/homedecor/commit/ed685d0abf57ab421e7db434f920dbf74ac4e86e#L0R353 20:50 VanessaE wow 20:50 kaeza eww 20:51 kaeza looks like my previous patch is not there 20:51 VanessaE I see you register the oven differently than the microwave, e.g. lack of "active" textures, no light param, etc. 20:52 kaeza yes, mainly because the oven uses _side.png for both sides and back, while MW has a separate tex for each side 20:52 RealBadAngel Jordach, ofc, every moron can do that :) 20:52 VanessaE right 20:53 kaeza (and because MW needs nodeboxes) 20:55 VanessaE hm, I don't see the code in here to make the locked variants? 20:55 VanessaE (there's a lot of code, and I'm a slow read :) ) 20:57 PilzAdam prepare for MinetestBot flood 20:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Don't show flags in local favorites 288948edf7 2013-07-12T13:55:34-07:00 http://git.io/XXscFw 20:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix bug server name set to address field when using up/down keys a0771d0940 2013-07-12T13:46:28-07:00 http://git.io/wV0HgA 20:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add missing server flags in public serverlist 38bc38cd88 2013-07-12T13:46:27-07:00 http://git.io/lfjO1w 20:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Remove lots of debug output from modmgr 494fa0c81a 2013-07-12T13:46:27-07:00 http://git.io/sQVIuA 20:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverdescription and name not beeing saved to local serverlist 7dbbbfc665 2013-07-12T13:46:27-07:00 http://git.io/xTyrLw 20:58 VanessaE * Shadowbot has kicked MinetestBot from #minetest (message flood detected) 20:58 Yepoleb punish it! 20:59 kaeza lol 20:59 kaeza VanessaE, forgot about those :P 21:00 VanessaE make it an extra field in the function call or def or so, so that locked versions aren't always created if they aren't wanted. 21:00 kaeza "I wont copy all the commit hashes here." <-- lazy 21:00 PilzAdam kaeza, feel free to do so 21:01 kaeza VanessaE, it's just a matter of calling the create_locked() function 21:01 VanessaE kaeza: I think just that, and turn up the microwave's speed a bit (maybe to 1.75) 21:01 VanessaE oh ok 21:01 kaeza good point 21:02 VanessaE else this looks pretty good 21:04 VanessaE kaeza: also, delete microwave_oven.lua :) 21:05 kaeza yep 21:05 kaeza more deletions :D 21:06 VanessaE soon homedecor will become as complex as technic (and probably become self-aware) :-) 21:07 kaeza heh 21:07 kaeza I tell you, this thing will have to be changed to a modpack soon :) 21:07 VanessaE it's getting that way huh 21:08 VanessaE ditto for pipeworks 21:10 VanessaE maybe I'll split it up some time soon then 21:20 sokomine who knows...when you leave your minetest world...the furnace will get up and dig some coal? :-) 21:20 sokomine (or eat all nyan cats in the vicinity...) 21:21 VanessaE I dunno, the pneumatic tubes in pipeworks are getting close to being turing-complete ;) 21:23 VanessaE (ok, maybe not) 21:24 Yepoleb Xorg constantly uses more than 35% cpu after i quit minetest, but I can't find an error in Xorg.0.log 21:24 VanessaE Yepoleb: check that minetest actually exited. 21:25 VanessaE (i.e. is not just hung with no visible window) 21:25 Yepoleb no, i checked that already 21:26 Yepoleb It uses 120mb ram, is that normal on a mate desktop? 21:27 VanessaE 10507 root 20 0 437m 163m 129m S 1.0 1.0 154:17.64 Xorg 21:27 VanessaE I'd say yes. 21:27 VanessaE (debian here) 21:28 Yepoleb it doesn't happen every time 21:29 VanessaE for me, X uses between 10 and 30% of one CPU core while MT is running 21:34 Yepoleb i don't have anything to use for a bug report 21:38 VanessaE Yepoleb: just gather together everything you can think of 21:39 VanessaE debug.txt, exact series of actions, the whole schmear 21:39 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/new 21:39 VanessaE report it there 21:39 kaeza VanessaE, pushed to origin 21:39 kaeza hope this doesn't break anything :P 21:39 VanessaE kaeza: if it does, we know who to blame ;) 21:39 kaeza hehe 21:40 kaeza BTW, making locked furnaces work properly will need some rework 21:40 VanessaE no worries 21:40 kaeza they show ok and all that but can't cook items ATM 21:40 kaeza (the ABM doesn't account for those) 21:41 VanessaE right 21:42 VanessaE *looks at diff stats* net of about 190 lines deleted. nice. 21:42 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Better masterserver html 0a2de78da4 2013-07-12T14:41:49-07:00 http://git.io/1ZUmDA 21:42 hmmmm guys 22:25 * sokomine looks intrestedly at hmmmm 22:26 Guest38562 eep 22:26 * VanessaE looks at Guest38562 22:26 sokomine hmmmm: can/will you do that node-name-replacement for the schematics? it would be extremly helpful to be able to override the names in the schematics file. also it would be useful to have a convenient method to read the size 22:26 sokomine a guest? those usually grief... 22:27 * sokomine donates a free leftover letters to guest38562 so that he can afford a name 22:31 * VanessaE tosses in a couple of spare e's 22:33 sokomine that's fine! he'll eventually be able to afford a name :-) 22:33 * sokomine adds a few leftover y 22:34 PilzAdam I think its harrison 22:34 * Yepoleb adds some random numbers 22:35 sokomine if it would be a harrison, all those es and ys won't be of much use :-( 22:39 Yepoleb how about donating your name? 22:39 VanessaE sokomine: could be lamefun, in which case, j and s are of the most use ;) 22:39 VanessaE [07-12 16:08] * harrison is now known as Guest38562 22:39 VanessaE well so much for speculation :) 22:59 PilzAdam john_minetest, hm? whats that? 23:02 Yepoleb i think it's more fun irl, but who cares about rl ;D 23:05 Yepoleb and you can't respawn 23:07 Yepoleb we should stop depending on that stupid real life 23:08 Yepoleb it's closed source 23:08 VanessaE Yepoleb: yeah but there's a huge reverse-engineering effort underway already 23:09 Yepoleb i heard it's impossible to reverse-engineer everything 23:09 Yepoleb i will create an open source clone of it, when i'm older 23:10 Yepoleb graphics don't matter 23:11 VanessaE Yepoleb: be sure your environment variables and toolchain are set up properly, or you'll end up with buggy, possibly malfunctioning results 23:12 Yepoleb i hope it doesn't get flooded with malware like colds and influenza 23:12 VanessaE it will, but fortunately, it'll have a built in, decently-functioning anti-malware suite. 23:13 VanessaE just be sure you keep up-to-date on patches for it 23:13 Yepoleb like an immune system? 23:14 Yepoleb it sucks, because it creates the patch after you got infected 23:14 VanessaE heh, way to spoil the analogy :) 23:15 Yepoleb if i fix all the security issues before they get exploited, they shouldn't have a chance 23:15 VanessaE yup 23:17 Yepoleb why don't we breath using our hair, did anyone get infected because they breath using their hair yet? 23:17 Yepoleb i don't think so 23:18 VanessaE no, but I remember seeing a documentary on some culture that learned to communicate through their hair... some blue-skinned creature called a nav--something or other.. 23:19 Yepoleb we have irc, that's just stupid 23:20 VanessaE are you kidding, the way they did it made fiberoptics look like old telegraph lines by comparison :) 23:20 Yepoleb oh, that's cool 23:23 Yepoleb they could make an irc network with their hair 23:24 Yepoleb i will talk to my dad, he should be able to do that 23:26 Yepoleb i have to go to bed now, see you on sunday 23:26 VanessaE night 23:26 Yepoleb goodnight 23:26 Kacey bbl 23:36 Kacey so what is the difference between Xubuntu and Debian with XFCE? 23:46 Taoki Finally. Latest GIT commit fixed technic_game which wouldn't load because of an error for me 23:46 Taoki I'd like to learn it. Anyone got a tutorial for minetest_game? 23:56 sdzen speaking of tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQFLaHFVMcw 23:56 sdzen this guy needed one