Time Nick Message 00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix header not beeing shown except on singleplayer tab eedb29346e 2013-07-08T16:58:28-07:00 http://git.io/ohG23Q 00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist not beeing escaped correctly 39d03148e5 2013-07-08T16:58:17-07:00 http://git.io/ABqdYw 00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: fix crash on play/start with empty world list f419f66546 2013-07-08T16:58:03-07:00 http://git.io/Q5jAQQ 00:05 NekoGloop commitspam 00:22 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Revert "Fix serverlist not beeing escaped correctly" e1a13608d8 2013-07-08T17:21:09-07:00 http://git.io/7And0A 00:39 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OrEkYyW_-I 01:01 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont play digging sound if not digging c8bd2ae11c 2013-07-08T17:42:05-07:00 http://git.io/i6_Xtw 01:20 sokomine players keep asking for "fraction" servers. does anyone of you know of such a server? 01:20 sokomine it is not a matter that intrests me much. it would just be nice to point these players to a server that is more to their liking 01:23 NekoGloop faction* 01:26 PilzAdam bye 03:17 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7628448000/hE672949C/ 03:46 hmmmm brogramming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM 03:55 bas080 Working on a new game for minetest... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2007092013%20-%2005%3A54%3A16%20AM.png 03:55 bas080 Minimal meets ocd 03:56 * VanessaE peeks in 03:56 VanessaE hi. 03:56 bas080 Hey VanessaE 03:56 VanessaE hey, long time since I seen you chatting here :) 03:57 VanessaE bas080: you know, that doesn't look half-bad for an ultra-low-rez texture pack 03:57 bas080 true, i am here less frequently 03:57 bas080 Also made some changes to some nodes and crafts. 03:57 bas080 ty VanessaE 03:58 VanessaE hope your game mode does well. 03:59 bas080 I'm enjoying it so it's doin good already 03:59 bas080 i look forward to sharing it 03:59 VanessaE I should think about officially releasing my game soon as well (hmmmm: I'm kinda waiting for that 4096 limit to be lifted before I do, so I don't have to field any support issues related to it) 04:00 bas080 What is the essence of you game? 04:00 bas080 your* 04:00 hmmmm a lot of mods 04:00 VanessaE bas080: creative build whatever you can possibly imagine 04:00 hmmmm thought the limit was raised already 04:00 VanessaE hmmmm: well, yeah that too :P 04:00 bas080 The one on the sever with high res 04:00 hmmmm there was a pull request for that 04:01 VanessaE hmmmm: not afaik, unless you guys decided to go ahead and do it - you said you wanted to work out all the technical issues that lead to this need first before you raised it to 64k 04:01 hmmmm which is done, yes 04:01 VanessaE s/lead/led/ 04:01 VanessaE oh ok 04:01 VanessaE I missed a step. buried under real life crap last few days :-/ 04:03 VanessaE hmmmm: from a quick check, I see no pull request nor any recent commits for that (note that this is NOT a request to fix it right now, just an observation) 04:04 VanessaE as an aside, I like the idea of PR #583. Always found that feature (bound to middle mouse button) useful in OpenArena. 04:06 hmmmm weird you're right, i can't find it 04:06 hmmmm what happened 04:06 VanessaE dunno, I think kahrl had meant to change it but didn't get a chance, things were pretty busy that day. 04:14 * VanessaE imagines firearms + other "throwing/shooting" + mobs mods installed, and a map designed for the purpose, to make a game tailored to look like Quake et.al 04:18 bas080 I like your imagination. 04:29 VanessaE jeez, no one on my server today :( 04:30 VanessaE hell only 14 in total among all the servers on the list for that matter 04:30 VanessaE where is everyone? 04:39 NekoGloop sleeping 04:39 VanessaE figures. 05:14 kaeza sleep? what is that :P 05:15 kaeza ah 05:15 kaeza "man sleep" clarified a lot 05:26 VanessaE my copy of sleep is out of date 05:26 VanessaE still only allows small measures of seconds :) 05:33 kaeza heh 05:33 kaeza maybe your OS is too old 05:33 * kaeza hides 05:33 VanessaE well it is getting up there, nearly 40 years now 05:33 VanessaE anyone know where I can get it updated? :) 05:34 VanessaE the nitwit who built the main control unit used defective memory and the cooling system is horribly inefficient also 05:35 kaeza some say that the "Exercise" installers work 05:35 VanessaE yeah but that one stresses other resources to the point of breakage too 05:35 kaeza good point 05:36 kaeza also, not installing bloated software like Cake 2.0 and Pizza 1.5.2 helps 05:36 VanessaE true 05:37 kaeza (I heard Taco 3.5 is very buggy and may cause core dumps) 05:37 VanessaE protein 20.11 seems to handle the main issues well enough anyway. it's slowly clearing out the boat 05:37 VanessaE bloat* 07:19 VanessaE bbl 07:56 * Zeg9 got working wield light for minetest 08:12 VanessaE Zeg9: cool. 08:16 Zeg9 For anyone interested: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest/tree/wieldlight 08:17 VanessaE does it work better than the one in technic? 08:19 Zeg9 Way better 08:19 Zeg9 VanessaE: it is client side 08:19 VanessaE sweet 08:23 kaeza awesomesauce 08:34 VanessaE bbl, time to try to sleep...again 08:48 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D 09:02 kaeza Zeg9, is it normal that it lights up *everything*? 09:03 Zeg9 what do you mean by everything? 09:04 kaeza Zeg9, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3265987332.jpg 09:04 Zeg9 kaeza: have you recompiled minetest? 09:04 kaeza that is a clean compile from your tree 09:05 Zeg9 hmm 09:05 kaeza oh wait 09:06 kaeza hmm nope.. it's the correct tree 09:06 Zeg9 is there any error? 09:06 Zeg9 (now I understand the pain it can be to make shaders) 09:07 kaeza only thing I have is this: "06:00:34: ERROR[main]: generate_shader(): failed to generate "bumpmaps_solids", addHighLevelShaderMaterial failed." 09:07 Zeg9 That is from bumpmaps, I have the same error but it has nothing to do with my change :/ 09:08 Zeg9 Can you screenshot when you don't hold the torch? 09:08 kaeza figured 09:08 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3265990607.jpg 09:09 Zeg9 kaeza: can you try with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 09:10 kaeza ah 09:10 kaeza it works in sw mode 09:11 kaeza yey 5 FPS :/ 09:11 Zeg9 heh I have 20 FPS in 1080p in SW mode :D 09:12 kaeza ZOMG 09:13 Zeg9 kaeza: sadly I have no idea how to fix it !§ 09:13 Zeg9 -!§ +:/ 09:13 kaeza Zeg9, the effect is the same in SW mode, except weaker 09:15 kaeza (i.e. torches still light up to 20 nodes away 09:15 kaeza ) 09:18 Zeg9 kaeza: does the fog work for you? 09:18 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-07-09%2006%3A16%3A01.jpg 09:18 kaeza ^ with torch 09:18 kaeza without: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-07-09%2006%3A15%3A51.jpg 09:18 kaeza yes, fog works 09:19 Zeg9 the first screenshot is actually what you should see 09:19 Exio le dije que no me gusta 678, me miro de reojo y me acuso de ser la corpo ~ 09:19 Exio hi :P 09:19 Calinou dat minimal 09:19 Zeg9 Hello 09:19 kaeza hai Exio 09:22 Exio how do i enable that gl_software mode? LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't work :( 09:23 Zeg9 How can you be sure it didn't work ? :p 09:23 Zeg9 maybe you have a great CPU 09:23 Exio i get the same FPSs as always 09:23 Exio and my singlethread performance is shit 09:23 Exio (fx 6100) 09:24 kaeza Exio, the rendering occurs in a different thread than the game AFAIK 09:25 kaeza {{cn}} 09:25 Zeg9 Exio: could you try my changes if you got time ? :p 09:26 Exio sure, the wieldlight shader? 09:28 Exio kaeza: http://dpaste.com/1292387/ 09:28 Exio supamultithreading 09:29 Zeg9 Exio, yep 09:32 Calinou how do i enable that gl_software mode? LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't work :( 09:33 Exio inb4 nvidia doesn't support it 09:33 Calinou 158 1 fps-loving peoples in this channel, 442 more until leilol adds normal maps to openarena 09:37 * Zeg9 could add slippery to minetest 09:37 Calinou +1 09:37 Calinou add a way to make slippery nodes 09:38 Zeg9 I already have the code for sliding items, but not players yet 09:49 Exio that looks nice Zeg9 09:49 Zeg9 thanks 09:49 Exio but it lights more when it is in your hand, or what? ;P 09:51 Exio but the thing of having a small "line" of light makes it look nice :P 09:51 Exio s/k/&s/ 09:54 kaeza oh god http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98799#p98799 09:54 kaeza we need an achievements plugin in the forum 09:54 Exio lol.. 09:55 kaeza I would give this one the "Take noobness to a next level" achievement 09:56 Zeg9 ah, that fail in sliding: the items were bouncing... 11:02 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98812#p98812 11:02 Calinou "im freaking confused, sorry im 14 but im confused." 11:02 Calinou lol 11:21 Zeg9 Calinou: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/817 11:22 Zeg9 Slippery^ 11:30 Calinou slippery is a bool? 11:31 * Calinou facepalm 11:31 Calinou add ways to actually control friction and accel, then it will be useful... 11:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:20 Taoki lol... I think the voxel manipulator is the most confuisng (and confusinbgly documented function) 12:20 Taoki There are no examples and none of the methods make sense 12:20 Taoki minetest.read_from_map crashes the engine 12:28 Taoki local vm = VoxelManip():read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end) 12:28 Taoki local data = vm:get_data() 12:29 Taoki W(hy)TF does this crash Minetest? In PilzAdam's nether mod that's how get_data is used 12:29 kaeza are you sure the passed positions are actual positions? 12:29 kaeza (i.e. not nil) 12:29 Taoki sure, they're vector positions 12:29 Taoki Tables with an x, y and z 12:30 Taoki Like all positions in Lua 12:30 Taoki "attempt to call field 'get_data' (a nil value)" - lol wut? It is documented even 12:30 kaeza can you provide more context? 12:31 kaeza ah 12:31 Taoki Using either : or . causes the same thing 12:32 kaeza ... 12:33 Taoki ? 12:33 kaeza [09:28:12] local vm = VoxelManip():read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end) 12:33 Taoki Like I said, there are no examples and documantation is dull in explaining usage. No idea what is wrong in that 12:34 kaeza you are returning wrong object 12:34 Taoki (the nether mod doesn't use read_from_map) 12:34 Taoki What's the correct way? 12:34 kaeza you are assigning the result from read_from_map() to "vm" 12:34 kaeza vm should be the VoxelManip object 12:35 kaeza so "local vm = VoxelManip()" 12:35 Taoki ok. Then I run read_from_map on top of that, then get_data on top of that result? 12:35 kaeza ...no 12:35 kaeza get_data is a method of VoxelManip 12:35 kaeza (as well as read_from_map) 12:36 Taoki so I do vm.get_data? 12:36 kaeza I'm not very vamiliar with VM, but I assume read_from_map() is used to "emerge" the blocks 12:37 kaeza to get actual node data you use get_data() 12:37 Taoki You said it's a method of voxelmanip though. So hoiw do I call it? I just write get_data() or vm.get_data()?\ 12:38 * Taoki is familiar with the Lua API but doesn't understand thos whole mixup 12:38 kaeza so "local vm = VoxelManip(); vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp); local data = vm:get_data() 12:38 Taoki Ahh, that way. Thanks, will try it out 12:39 Taoki I understand what it does now. read_drom_map doesn't return anything, just sets the VM I spawned 12:39 kaeza it actually returns some values 12:39 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1653 12:40 kaeza (not sure if those actual values should be used when accessing data[] though) 12:42 kaeza still working on your villages I see 12:42 kaeza that would be a great addition 12:43 Taoki Yes, improving the clear function. They already use schematics as of yesterday, now that hmmm fixed the facedirs 12:45 Taoki Strange though. Even after I do vm:read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end), the VM affects blocks outside of this range 12:45 Taoki As in, not in the box specified by pos_start and pos_end 12:45 Taoki I need it to clear everything in this area (set it to air). Just a sec actually... 12:45 kaeza ah then the return values of read_from_map() are used I guess :P 12:46 Taoki http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Anpnb5EG What's wrong in this? And why does it clear outside of the given function instead? 12:47 kaeza think of it like this: you pass the area you want to modify to read_from_map(), and it returns *whole mapblocks* 12:47 kaeza so you must "offset" your positions into the data[] array 12:49 Taoki But I already give the area to the read_from_map function. What's it used for if it still returns anything else? 12:50 kaeza ah I see 12:50 kaeza your code is setting *every element* in the data[] array to air 12:51 Taoki Sure. But I thought the data array only contains what I set from read_from_map 12:51 kaeza the problem is, data contains the whole mapblocks (not just the area you want to modify) 12:52 Taoki Yeah... it's a problem then. How to loop only through the elements in that range 12:52 Taoki Instead of for i, d in ipairs(data) do 12:54 Taoki Ah no... I probably can't limit the loop. Instead I think I need to filter the positions themselves 12:55 kaeza Taoki, http://pastebin.com/KVgch3Ny 12:55 kaeza something like that should work 12:56 Taoki Ahh, ok. Thanks! 12:57 kaeza np 12:58 kaeza this whole thing is a bit weird because it was coded for speed 12:58 sfan5 hi everyone 12:58 kaeza hey sfan 12:58 Taoki kaeza: Same issue though, everything disappears :( 13:00 kaeza everything? 13:00 kaeza not just a same sized misplaced cube? 13:00 Taoki kaeza: A large area outside of the desired min and max pos 13:00 Taoki yes, same 13:00 Taoki misplaced cube indeed 13:01 kaeza try with: local va = VoxelArea:new{MinEdge=pos_start, MaxEdge=pos_end} 13:02 Taoki same 13:02 kaeza :/ 13:02 Taoki Though it only seems to happen after I place a new block 13:03 kaeza no idea here, sorry 13:04 Taoki The voxelmanip might be broken, will askk hmmm 13:04 kaeza ah 13:04 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1660 13:05 kaeza maybe you need to call that 13:05 Taoki adding that too 13:05 Taoki Yes, that only makes the breakage more visible :P 13:05 kaeza add also calc_lighting() 13:05 kaeza O.o 13:07 Taoki So the cutting cube clearly goes out of bounds. Seemingly it erases all noteblocks touching that area instead of all nodes touching that area 13:08 kaeza is the cube the expected size? 13:08 Taoki *nodeblocks 13:08 Taoki I know the exact coordinates, so I know for sure where it should cut and that it cuts more 13:08 kaeza hrm 13:08 kaeza you should wait for hmmmm then 13:09 kaeza I have no effing idea how this thing works :/ 13:09 kaeza just pure guess work 13:11 kaeza offtopic: not sure if trolling or *THAT* stupid: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98824#p98824 13:11 Exio ni con el 54% de mi corazon ~ 13:11 Exio hi 13:11 Taoki hehe 13:11 Calinou kaeza: I bet "*THAT* stupid" 13:11 Calinou this is one of the downsides of windows 8) 13:12 Exio wtf 13:12 kaeza hehe 13:12 Exio is that real 13:12 Exio or i can't read 13:12 Exio and he tries to say something different 13:12 NekoGloop and also using notepad 13:12 kaeza awwwww Exio está enamorado <3 13:13 Exio kaeza, de una chica K 13:14 Taoki kaeza: Hah! Even when I disable " = air" it still erases it. Very weird 13:14 Taoki Most likely the write_to_map function is breaking somewhere 13:14 kaeza wut 13:14 kaeza hmm 13:14 Exio what about placing content_ignore 13:14 Taoki data[i] = air -- That's not the one causing it it appears 13:15 Taoki Even if I commenbt out the for loops and everything in them, the result is same 13:17 kaeza weird O.o 13:17 Taoki http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j61ytqyC This code alone can do it 13:18 kaeza that code clears the map too? 13:19 kaeza hmm 13:19 Taoki An incorrect cube 13:19 Taoki Though it's not set to even clear or modify anything 13:20 Exio http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j61ytqyC 13:20 Exio wtf is that 13:20 Exio Taoki: any short-test-case that works and i can try in-game about what isn't working? 13:20 Taoki HAH... even just those 3 lines: 13:20 Taoki local vm = VoxelManip() 13:20 Taoki vm:write_to_map() 13:20 Taoki vm:update_map() 13:20 Taoki Exio: ^ 13:20 kaeza Taoki, -.- 13:20 Exio working mod 13:20 Exio that isn't a working mod 13:20 Taoki kaeza: ? 13:21 Taoki Exio: Not yet, sorry. It's part of a larger code 13:21 Exio well, what mod is it? 13:21 kaeza those 3 lines don't set any data at all :P 13:21 Taoki oh? 13:21 Taoki What's wrong with them? 13:22 Exio Taoki: from where do you load the map 13:22 Exio i don't get that 13:22 Taoki load the map? 13:23 Exio or what are you doing? 13:23 Taoki Exio: Trying to use the voxel manipulator to clear an area between two corners (set every node there to air) 13:23 Taoki Apparenytly a collosal task due to the complexity of voxelmanip :P 13:24 Exio what code are you suing? 13:24 Exio using 13:24 PilzAdam Taoki, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957302 13:24 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98817#p98817 13:24 Calinou "So if it was possible to make a perfect one, such would have surely existed already." dat assumption 13:24 Calinou what if the same thing happened to linux 8D 13:24 Calinou fact, people have and need an ego 13:24 kaeza LOL https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/commit/bad0d53bdba3b59fde3fab3f231ff62f89fe689c 13:25 kaeza (note how even the commit ID says PilzAdam is bad) 13:25 Taoki Calinou: PilzAdam (simple mobs) and sfan5(mob framework) are good devs. If they couldn't make a good mob system (assuming it would be easy), that would be really weird. Don't doubt they tried the best 13:25 Exio sfan5 13:25 Exio wtf 13:26 Calinou people never unite to make an unified standard 13:26 PilzAdam sapier made mobf... 13:26 Calinou sad fact of life 13:26 Calinou look at linux distros 13:26 Taoki sapier yes 13:26 PilzAdam Taoki, seen that gist? does it help? 13:26 Taoki PilzAdam: And thanks, will try your version. But not right now, need to run for a bit 13:26 Taoki Trying it soon 13:26 Taoki Calinou: Linux distros are pretty good ^^ 13:27 Exio 500 distros around 13:27 Calinou none of them are perfect, some make better compromises than others. 13:27 Exio different "users" 13:27 Taoki Calinou: That is true 13:27 Calinou even by looking at FOSS in general, most people still critisize GIMP and libreoffice and this makes us suffer. (incompatible formats) 13:27 Taoki Exio: If we think of ALL of them, yeah about that. Only a few are truly popular and used at worldwide level though 13:28 Taoki Calinou: Sadder fact of life: People often fight over which distro is better and "which sucks" than being happy something as nice as Linux exists at all and you can choose what you find best :) 13:28 Exio debian, gentoo, ubuntu, fedora, harshlinux, opensuse, centos, linux mint and i can't more right now :P 13:28 Calinou harsh linux :-D 13:28 Exio small distros like puppy and slitaz 13:29 kaeza Puppy :-D 13:29 Taoki Exio: Yeah, those are most popular. Except harshlinux which i never heard of till now 13:29 Exio archlinux 13:29 harrison siduction 4lyfe 13:29 Exio lol 13:29 Calinou it's my pun on arch linux 13:29 harrison siduction is the best linux 13:29 Taoki For me (again, for me) openSUSE is by far the best distro 13:29 Exio debian sid 13:29 Exio for me debian+gentoo :P 13:29 Taoki Anyway I need to go now, BBL 13:30 PilzAdam distro war? Kubuntu FTW! 13:30 Exio i missed slackware in the list 13:30 harrison do not go gentoo into that good night 13:30 Exio i should die now 13:30 Calinou bye Taoki 13:30 Taoki Yay, someone else that likes KDE :) 13:30 kaeza obligatory: http://xkcd.com/927/ 13:30 Calinou xubuntu is best pony, personally 13:30 harrison see what i did there? 13:30 Calinou kaeza: haha 13:30 Exio i like KDE too ;P 13:30 Exio and bye Taoki 13:30 Calinou never used KDE 13:31 Calinou xfce is very fast and customisable 13:31 PilzAdam KDE is for people with computers that can run it 13:31 Exio KDE is gentoo is amazin-ly fast 13:31 Exio s/is/in/ 13:32 kaeza and the n0085 keep coming: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98829#p98829 13:32 Calinou 80085* 13:32 Calinou kaeza: that is actually a valid question 13:33 kaeza 80386* 13:33 Calinou it's understandable, not everyone wants to play as "singleplayer" 13:33 kaeza well, yeah, in some sense 13:34 kaeza hmm 13:34 Exio noisettes ftw 13:35 Exio http://cocinachic.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/papas-noisette.jpg 13:39 kahrl would a VoxelArea:iter and VoxelArea:iterp be useful? https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957422 13:39 kahrl you give it a minimum and maximum position and it returns an iterator over the indices between those positions 13:41 PilzAdam kahrl, yes 13:41 PilzAdam also VoxelArea:position(index) that returns the absolute position 13:53 PilzAdam kahrl, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957518 13:55 kahrl yep, works 13:55 PilzAdam doesnt work if x=MaxEdge.x 13:56 kahrl seems to work here... LuaJIT difference? 13:57 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957550 13:57 PilzAdam this fails 13:57 PilzAdam p.x is -11 13:58 PilzAdam and z is 41 13:58 PilzAdam *p.z 13:58 PilzAdam and p.y is -20 13:59 kahrl ok, I get that too now 14:00 kahrl perhaps try https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957571 14:00 kahrl it does strange math but it seems to work in this particular case 14:01 kahrl oh, I think the problem with your version is that the 1 is subtracted too late 14:02 PilzAdam your version works 14:03 kaeza bored: http://pastebin.com/7cijcnQe 14:03 kaeza Calinou, ^ 14:03 kahrl this works too: https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957593 14:03 PilzAdam yea, that makes sense 14:04 PilzAdam so, what version do we pick now? :-) 14:04 Calinou nice 14:04 Taoki PilzAdam: Back and tested your code. Oddly enough, same issue with that too. This is really weird 14:05 kaeza Calinou, license is WTFPL... if you want to add it to maptools, I won't complain :> 14:05 Taoki https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957302 14:05 Calinou ok, but have to go for now 14:08 PilzAdam Taoki, "same issue"? 14:08 Taoki PilzAdam: Instead of only filling the area between pos1 and pos2, it cuts areas outside of that zone 14:08 PilzAdam yes, because p1 and pos1 differ 14:09 kahrl PilzAdam: does MinetestBot roll dice? I can't find it :) 14:09 PilzAdam the engine gives you an different area, where the requested one is only a part of it 14:09 * Taoki head hurts 14:09 PilzAdam kahrl, if you say "Hi Minetestbot", it will pick "hi", hello" or "hey" 14:10 Taoki Ok, so how do I change that loop to only cut what's in that area? 14:10 PilzAdam and it adds a "!" with 50% probability 14:10 kahrl alright so if it used a ! we use your version, otherwise my version 14:10 kahrl uses* 14:10 PilzAdam so if there is no "!" we will pick mine, if there is one, we will pick yours? 14:10 kahrl well 14:11 kahrl let's go with your rules 14:11 PilzAdam oh, wait 14:11 PilzAdam it also has a "." 14:11 PilzAdam and it also has "sup" 14:11 PilzAdam so, "Hi" or "hey" = My version; "Hello" or "Sup" = your version 14:12 kahrl Hi MinetestBot 14:12 MinetestBot Hey kahrl 14:12 PilzAdam \o/ 14:12 kahrl grats :D 14:12 PilzAdam lets test if the other actually work 14:12 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:12 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam! 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam! 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam! 14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot 14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam! 14:13 NakedFury the ninjabot would have kicked both your asses by now 14:14 PilzAdam hmmm, I get "Hi" "Hello" and "Hey" in PM, but no "sup" 14:15 kahrl MinetestBot: reload ping 14:15 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reload ping 14:15 MinetestBot PilzAdam: (version: 2013-06-28 17:21:39) 14:15 kahrl that's an old version 14:16 PilzAdam MinetestBot is hosted by thexyz 14:16 kahrl sup was added yesterday 14:17 kahrl probably not pulled yet 14:19 kahrl the version from 2013-06-28 has no ".", so if it uses "" we use your version, if if uses "!" we use yours 14:19 kahrl erm haha 14:19 sfan5 :D 14:19 kahrl whatever, we use your version :D 14:19 PilzAdam sfan5, can you just add !random , ? 14:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes 14:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: I was thinking about what productive thing I can do today anyway.. 14:34 sfan5 PilzAdam: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/commit/ea030292e8 14:34 sfan5 ah, derp 14:35 sfan5 note to self: don't copy-pase everything 14:38 bas080 The generating of shaders fails. What does that mean? 14:38 Zeg9 bas080: the new bumpmapping shaders work on 5 computers in this channel :p 14:39 Zeg9 proller: do you think it would be a problem to use groups for wield light? or is a new field needed? 14:39 PilzAdam Zeg9, I would prefer a new field in itemdef for wield light 14:39 bas080 Zeg9 Is it a neat feature? 14:39 Zeg9 bas080: only for high-res texture packs 14:40 Zeg9 PilzAdam: ok... I'll have to find out how to then 14:40 PilzAdam Zeg9, Ill look for a commit that might help you 14:40 Zeg9 Thanks 14:42 sfan5 thexyz: could you git pull the minetestbot-modules 14:43 proller Zeg9, how to make light from bucket if make with groups? 14:43 Zeg9 proller: groups = {wield_light=14} 14:43 kahrl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/818 14:44 Zeg9 it doesn't look that good, but is way easier to make 14:44 proller Zeg9, for all buckets? its mus t depend on content 14:44 Zeg9 Of course 14:44 proller or make group for lava, and use in bucket 14:45 PilzAdam kahrl, seems good 14:45 kahrl proller: use the wield_light of the liquid source for the bucket? 14:47 Zeg9 that is a good idea ^ but my problem is that I don't know if wield light should be defined in groups or the item definition itself 14:47 PilzAdam Zeg9, serialize is here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5e7e0347cdae0cab3b7d003fbd3b22c7f820e703/src/itemdef.cpp#L148 and deserialize here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5e7e0347cdae0cab3b7d003fbd3b22c7f820e703/src/itemdef.cpp#L201 14:48 Calinou I forgot to say it, but 3 days ago was my 2nd minetest birthday :D 14:49 Calinou minetest didn't have sound, an actual day-night cycle, 3D clouds and health was off by default 14:49 Calinou there were no locked chests too :> 14:50 PilzAdam Zeg9, when we get a new procol version then we would create version 3, but you dont have to care about that 14:51 Zeg9 alright 14:57 NekoGloop http://imgur.com/gallery/Gr4HzaM 14:57 * NekoGloop runs 14:57 PilzAdam its 16:57 15:00 Zeg9 PilzAdam: should I add a check for a new protocol version (before writing the writeU8)? 15:00 PilzAdam no 15:01 Zeg9 and should it be added at the end, or just after "wield_scale"? 15:01 PilzAdam of course at the end 15:01 PilzAdam or do you want to break everything? 15:01 Zeg9 maybe 15:01 PilzAdam in the if(protocl_version > 17) at the end 15:03 Jordach protocol* 15:03 PilzAdam RBA was the last one who broke everything by inserting something in the middle of serialization relevant lists 15:03 Jordach RBA and sapier break everything as usual 15:04 Jordach theyre lua modders not C++ Devs 15:07 Zeg9 It's not fun if it isn't broken :-) 15:08 Zeg9 "+1 if you're bored of recompiling everything just because you changed a single .h" 15:09 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/xyfNIPP.png 15:14 Zeg9 PilzAdam: maybe you can help me, I have a problem with node textures being full bright when a torch is wielded 15:15 Zeg9 How could I pass a setting to the shader from there? 15:18 Calinou NekoGloop: -ENOT_FUN 15:21 Jordach ugh, cant even get ahold of ShadowNinja 15:22 PilzAdam Zeg9, no idea 15:23 PilzAdam Im not very familiar with this graphics stuff 15:23 Zeg9 I could define a global variable, but it sounds hacky 15:30 MarkTwain Hello! 15:32 Calinou hi 15:32 proller it will be cool for night glow flowers, if they will be merged 15:35 PilzAdam Zeg9, apply the light to the item in your hand too, if shaders are enabled 15:35 Zeg9 I'm trying to do this 15:36 PilzAdam WOOOOOW 15:36 PilzAdam wield_light = 120, 15:37 proller cause fire on trees ? 15:37 PilzAdam Zeg9, you should limit it 15:37 proller noo! 15:38 Zeg9 I was thinking, maybe it is better to not limit it. That way unhappy players will stop complaining about the "too small lights" 15:38 PilzAdam Zeg9, and add a note in lua-api.txt that it requires shaders to be enabled 15:39 Calinou are the lights slow or fast? 15:39 Calinou do they cast shadows? :trollface: 15:39 Calinou (unlikely) 15:39 PilzAdam they go through walls 15:40 proller Zeg9, and maybe later make ligtht ftom dropped torch ? 15:40 PilzAdam ^ yea, add a field to lua entities too 15:40 Zeg9 ^ and ^^: this requires dynamic lighting 15:46 PilzAdam if someone is bored: grep "TODO" src/*.{cpp,h} 15:46 PilzAdam bbl 15:51 Calinou or add reclocking to nouveau 15:52 Calinou just as fun 15:52 Jordach omfg omfg 15:52 Jordach my castle is being attacked by simple mobs 15:52 Calinou simple mobs, simple since 2012 15:52 * sfan5 was just going to say "/r/nocontext" 15:53 Jordach kaeza, the wiki mod's textbox isnt broken with 0.4.7 window 15:53 Jordach s* 15:53 Jordach i can clicky all day 15:53 Jordach and no crash 15:54 Calinou universities are like linux distros, john_minetest :-) 16:10 kaeza Jordach, have you tried clicking outside the text? 16:10 * Jordach checks on server 16:10 Jordach at mt.viewskew.com 16:11 kaeza also, do you find it useful? 16:12 kaeza May be good to provide some more extensive in-game description for nodes, etc. 16:12 Jordach kaeza, i clicked outside the textbox, nothing 16:13 kaeza good :) 16:13 Jordach and this is the 1.0.2 version 16:13 Jordach (second release) 16:13 kaeza mine crashes as soon as I do anythink outside the text with the mouse :/ 16:13 kaeza -k+g 16:13 Jordach DirectX 1 - OpenGL 0 16:14 kaeza Jordach, it's not driver-specific 16:14 kaeza seems to be a bug in the GUI code itself 16:14 kaeza which Irrlicht version do Win builds use? 16:15 Jordach 1.8.0 16:15 kaeza zing 16:15 kaeza I have 1.7.2 16:16 kaeza Jordach, try going to /ml/Recent :) 16:16 Jordach i havent updated the mod yet 16:17 kaeza oh :< 16:17 Jordach and i want my server to keep running 24/7 16:18 Jordach i find this rather amusing: i have a .doc format in word 2007, it says: [Compatibility Mode], when MS bloody wrote their own format! 16:20 kaeza Jordach, http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/56/4383244.jpg 16:20 Jordach heh 16:21 Jordach why use something if it isnt broken 16:21 Jordach -why 16:22 kaeza becayse money 16:22 kaeza cause* 16:22 kaeza stupid keyboard-.- 16:23 Calinou DirectX 1 - OpenGL 0 16:23 Calinou nope 16:23 Calinou you mean Direct3D 16:23 Calinou and proprietary APIs still suck 16:24 kaeza Calinou, Direct3D falls into the DirectX group 16:24 Calinou OpenGL does rendering, Direct3D does renderng 16:24 Calinou DirectX is a collection of libraries 16:24 kaeza yep 16:24 kaeza the 2D API is called DirectDraw 16:25 Calinou DirectSound for sound, DirectInput for input, DirectPlay for network (lol) 16:26 kaeza COM is cancer y'know? 16:26 Calinou COM? 16:26 kaeza Common Object Model 16:27 kaeza (some proprietary shit by M$) 16:27 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RHuZb7z.png 16:27 kaeza Jordach, lol 16:27 kaeza >made on imgur :| 16:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/fq5OLg7.jpg 16:28 kaeza that's what she said! 16:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/NCJ0H3R.png 16:30 marktraceur You know what really grinds my gears? Tired memes. 16:31 Calinou don't forget broadcom wifi 16:31 Calinou (grinds everyone's gears, or ears, you choose) 16:32 kaeza why not both? 16:32 Calinou because. 16:32 Calinou broadcom logic 16:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/lIIO1LN.gif <- deadpool: the game (i actually own it) 16:33 Calinou a dungeon master riding a rocket ^ 16:36 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/va63ptZ.jpg 16:40 * Zeg9 is fixing the main menu's server list since nobody does it 16:40 Calinou add nouveau reclocking, GL 4.3 support and SLI while you're at it 16:41 Zeg9 I like these kicks :) 16:47 Jordach nouveau is crap 16:48 Jordach Zeg9, i just recieved the mail for your latest pull in five seconds 16:48 Exio who here haz the shitty network around? 16:48 * Jordach sneaks off 16:49 Zeg9 300kB/s as a big maximum, is that a shitty network for you Exio? 16:49 Exio http://dpaste.com/1292694/ 16:49 Exio 50seconds of latency 16:49 Exio up to 65 16:50 Zeg9 I hope this is NOT a MMO server 16:50 Exio what? 16:51 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/xyfNIPP.png Yo sup hows it goin 16:51 Exio Zeg9: this == ? :P 16:52 Zeg9 I thought, from the name, that shadowempire.in was the address for a mmorpg server :P 16:52 Exio ah 16:52 Exio it is a MC server 16:52 Exio i play mc, yes 16:52 Exio who will kill me 16:52 Zeg9 is the mc server that laggy or just the website ? :p 16:52 Exio it is laggy if you don't live in europe 16:53 Exio i get 300ms of lag from argentina though 16:53 Exio sometimes under, sometimes over 400 16:53 Exio depends of my network 16:53 * kaeza gives a plate river high five to Exio 16:53 Jordach OMFG 16:54 * Jordach just saw someone use mega.co.nz for a download 16:55 kaeza (actually "River of Silver", but whatever) 16:56 Jordach holy shit balls. downloaded in 56 seconds and the actual download in 2 secs 17:04 UniqueWisdom herro 17:06 Jordach hm 17:06 UniqueWisdom so i just found out about this game 17:06 sfan5 and? 17:06 UniqueWisdom looks cool 17:06 UniqueWisdom is it worth 17:06 UniqueWisdom downloading 17:06 Jordach YES 17:07 UniqueWisdom alright 17:07 UniqueWisdom ill try it out 17:08 Exio rio de la plata 17:08 Exio say stuff in spanish kaeza :P 17:09 kaeza englisch is kewl :P 17:12 UniqueWisdom lol 17:12 UniqueWisdom this looks cool 17:12 UniqueWisdom like mc in beta stage 17:12 sfan5 yeah 17:13 Calinou UniqueWisdom right now: "this is like mass effect multiplayer" 17:13 Calinou (original quote from me, december 2011) 17:13 sfan5 this is the first time someone says "like mc in beta" instead of "like mc in alpha" 17:13 Calinou "alpha" is usually negative :P 17:13 sfan5 yeah 17:13 UniqueWisdom lol 17:14 UniqueWisdom can i change the controls? 17:14 Jordach yes, settings tab; change keys 17:15 UniqueWisdom thanks 17:15 Jordach UniqueWisdom, i know pretty much everything about minetest 17:16 UniqueWisdom first thing i notice 17:16 UniqueWisdom is the blocks are put in to my inventory automatically 17:16 Jordach yes 17:16 sfan5 my turn: , I'm in the Minetest core developer team 17:17 Jordach no more diamonds in lava....ever 17:17 * Calinou makes Jordach throw their diamonds in lava, captions "matter cannot be created or destroyed", says "BITCH PLEASE" 17:17 Jordach Calinou, lava does not destroy items 17:18 kaeza as you can see, Calinou is the troll in the family 17:18 Jordach useless troll* 17:18 UniqueWisdom are there uh hostile mobs 17:18 NekoGloop I'm the kitten 17:18 Jordach nope, you have to install them 17:18 sfan5 UniqueWisdom: nope, you need to install a mod 17:18 sfan5 Simple Mobs or mobf 17:18 Jordach !g simple mobs pilzadam 17:18 MinetestBot Jordach: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs 17:18 UniqueWisdom ok cool 17:18 Jordach download that 17:18 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 17:18 Jordach good girl 17:18 NekoGloop be warned that any mob mod causes immense lag or doesn't work properly 17:18 Calinou kaeza: no, according to redroid I'm the parrot 17:19 * sfan5 nominates MinetestBot for the "most-useful bot of the year award" 17:19 * MinetestBot purrs 17:19 UniqueWisdom its cool 17:19 UniqueWisdom so there arent mobs in the game itself? 17:19 UniqueWisdom without mods 17:19 sfan5 no 17:19 Calinou nope 17:19 Calinou for various reasons 17:19 kaeza nein 17:19 UniqueWisdom alright 17:19 Calinou Jordach: with pilzadam's item_drop it does :P 17:19 UniqueWisdom was just wondering 17:19 Jordach no mobs unless you want them, essentially giving you the ultimate choiec 17:19 Jordach choice* 17:19 Calinou just like gentoo 17:19 UniqueWisdom well if it causes immense lag 17:19 UniqueWisdom im fine 17:19 UniqueWisdom lol 17:20 sfan5 UniqueWisdom: mobs don't cause immense lag 17:20 Jordach UniqueWisdom, simple mobs isnt actually heavy on old computers 17:21 NekoGloop simple mobs is the one that doesn't work properly 17:21 NekoGloop mobf is the one that lags immensely 17:22 Calinou simple mobs works properly for me 17:22 * Kacey woke up at noon 17:23 Calinou cool story :P 17:28 Jordach http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqKP7xr2TXc/TyX2XDkglbI/AAAAAAAAAFA/CKkyJ3ckLOQ/s1600/CoolStoryBroHouse.jpg 17:28 VanessaE hi 17:52 sfan5 someone just said YOLO ;_; 17:53 Calinou YOLO 17:53 * Calinou writes a noyolo mod 17:53 Calinou bans anyone saying YOLO 17:53 sfan5 ^ 17:53 sfan5 do that 17:53 Calinou (someone did that for minecraft :P) 17:54 sfan5 linke meg 17:54 sfan5 *meh 17:54 sfan5 -e 17:54 Zeg9 YOLO - You Only Login Once 17:54 UniqueWisdom there is a perfect 5x5 square in the ground where the sand fell down 17:55 UniqueWisdom leaves need wood blocks to not decay? 17:55 UniqueWisdom so wood planks work? 17:56 FreeFull UniqueWisdom: Only tree blocks work 17:57 Calinou sfan5: nope :P 17:57 Calinou UniqueWisdom: trees and jungle trees prevent decay 17:57 Calinou note that player-placed leaves decay 17:57 UniqueWisdom how many blocks 17:57 UniqueWisdom around it 17:57 Calinou 4, iirc 17:57 Calinou try? :P 18:01 UniqueWisdom lol are there really nyan cat blocks? 18:01 sfan5 yes 18:02 Kacey yep 18:02 Kacey Calinou, YOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:03 sfan5 !kill Kacey with fire 18:03 Kacey i like fire 18:03 VanessaE UniqueWisdom: yep: http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat 18:03 sfan5 !wik Nyan Cat 18:03 sfan5 MinetestBot! 18:03 MinetestBot sfan5! 18:03 sfan5 !wiki Nyan Cat 18:03 sfan5 !wik Nyan Cat 18:03 sfan5 wat 18:03 VanessaE (whoever did those renders should rotate them 90° about the Y axis) 18:06 Calinou me = "Calinou", 18:06 Calinou erm, no 18:06 Calinou it's blockmen 18:06 Zeg9 BlockMen uploaded them, but I think it originated from the old wiki :p 18:07 Zeg9 Calinou: btw the download link for your .blend died with ompldr 18:08 Calinou I'll upload em again 18:08 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/misc/minetest_block_render_blends.zip 18:09 Zeg9 does it have any script for automated rendering? :p 18:10 Calinou no 18:11 Zeg9 Gotta go, bye. 19:14 sfan5 GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.36.0/./glib/gmem.c:165: failed to allocate 18446744073709512192 bytes 19:14 sfan5 ^ wat? 19:14 sokomine uff. what are you doing? 19:15 sfan5 using qemu 19:17 BrandonReese !up landrush.bremaweb.com 31000 19:17 MinetestBot landrush.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (507ms) 19:17 BrandonReese !up mt.bremaweb.com 31000 19:17 MinetestBot mt.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (268ms) 19:29 Kacey https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998514_178294609024159_358422106_n.jpg 19:30 Calinou [facebook image warning] 19:30 Calinou brace yourselves 19:30 Calinou the Calinou is clicking that link 19:31 Calinou heh 19:44 thexyz suggestion: improve forum discussions by deleting useless comments like this one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98749#p98749 19:44 Calinou thexyz, you're admin, you can do that :P 19:46 kahrl useless? he might be seeing someone drown 19:46 Calinou haha 19:46 Kacey can we just ban this Dan dude? 19:46 Calinou Kacey, what did he do? 19:47 Kacey he constantly answers to EVERY topic and begins an argument, he replies ABOVE the quote(just plain annoying...) and he seems like a troll 19:48 PilzAdam he writes above the quote box, not under it 19:48 frogcrush It isn't nice to ban people because they express their opinions... 19:48 PilzAdam that should result in a ban 19:48 Calinou frogcrush, if their opinions aren't made to flame, then ok 19:49 Calinou but I don't think dan is intentionally flaming or trolling 19:49 Jordach he is an ugly troll 19:49 Jordach and a bad one at that 19:49 PilzAdam I think hes just dump 19:49 thexyz yes, ban him for topposting 19:54 hdastwb1 Thunderbird just automatically changed my name… 19:55 frogcrush1 Anyone else get kicked? 19:56 Calinou no 19:56 Calinou hdastwb, thunderbird as an IRC client? O_o 19:56 frogcrush1 Yeah 19:56 frogcrush1 It's pretty awesome 19:57 frogcrush1 Thunderbird has multiple chat protocols 19:58 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/Y3bJGhdA1 20:09 oxenfreedan what are we supposed to do here in the #minetest irc? 20:09 Exio stalk idlers 20:09 oxenfreedan what? 20:09 Exio nah, just random chat and so 20:09 Exio look at the logs, they are somewhat funny :P 20:09 oxenfreedan oh 20:09 oxenfreedan lol 20:09 Exio random support 20:10 Exio random chat, and so on 20:10 * oxenfreedan 20:10 oxenfreedan haha the command is here 20:10 PilzAdam every monday and friday is distor flamewar 20:10 PilzAdam -r 20:10 PilzAdam *distro 20:10 oxenfreedan whats that supposed to mean 20:11 Calinou tuesday "who is best pony", wednesday "this feature sucks" day, thursday "what games do you play" day, saturday is DE wars day, sunday hardware brands wars 20:11 Calinou now we know what to do every day 20:11 * Exio slaps Calinou with an AMD CPU 20:12 Calinou we aren't sunday 20:12 Jordach today is a tuesday 20:12 Jordach /part fuck this 20:12 oxenfreedan who cares about ponies? 20:12 PilzAdam Taoki 20:12 * oxenfreedan thinks thay are totally blah 20:13 Taoki yep 20:13 Taoki Prolly not the only one eh :) 20:13 * Taoki knows other users who do ^^ 20:13 Calinou Exio, too 20:13 Exio i don't 20:13 Calinou too bad mh0 isn't here :> 20:13 Exio that is mh0 20:13 Exio too bad? too good 20:13 Exio i hope he doesn't even try to join :D 20:13 Exio inb4 you tell him to /join 20:14 Calinou no, I won't 20:14 Jordach !!ban mh0 20:14 Calinou what if I invite him :> 20:14 Exio D: 20:14 oxenfreedan it was funny i logged on and no one was talking for like five mins and then i said something and everyone starts to talk XD 20:14 Exio no please 20:14 Exio oxenfreedan: that happens always 20:14 Exio someone needs to say something 20:14 oxenfreedan lol 20:14 Exio (like Calinou asking for rarity) 20:14 PilzAdam oxenfreedan, just say "Java", works always 20:15 Calinou Exio, /whois rarity 20:15 Calinou no need to ask for it 20:15 oxenfreedan java 20:15 Exio lol 20:15 Exio i wonder how do you that "much" about MLP ponies ;) 20:15 * oxenfreedan throws mac and java out the window 20:15 PilzAdam JAVA FTW! 20:16 * oxenfreedan then goes out stomps the mac into the ground looks at the java and picks it up and puts it back into linux so that it continues to work 20:16 * Exio changes the i7 in PilzAdam's mobo with a celeron 20:16 Exio try to run any java program now :> 20:17 * oxenfreedan laughs and squirts ketchup on the keyboard 20:17 Exio wat 20:17 oxenfreedan i pretty much only use amd 20:18 * oxenfreedan replaces PilzAdam's mobo's processor with a pentium 2 20:18 Jordach 8086 20:18 Jordach much better 20:18 * oxenfreedan then gives the computer 256 mbs of ram 20:18 Calinou 80085 - oh, that isn't a CPU 20:18 oxenfreedan run minetest now 20:18 Calinou i wonder how do you that "much" about MLP ponies ;) 20:18 Exio know 20:18 Calinou it's simple. I play RPG games daily. 20:18 Exio where is it 20:19 Exio oxenfreedan: what is your cpu right now? 20:19 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Public server checkbox e3b7c8e0cc 2013-07-09T13:17:47-07:00 http://git.io/tMBSMg 20:20 oxenfreedan amd turion 64 x2 mobile technology 1.8 ghz dual core 20:20 Exio mobile D: 20:20 oxenfreedan that explain it enough for ya? 20:20 oxenfreedan HEY 20:20 Exio i don't like mobiles cpu 20:20 oxenfreedan i got the whole laptop for free 20:20 Exio ah 20:20 Exio i like it then :D 20:21 kaeza "de arriba un rayo" 20:21 oxenfreedan you wont like it after i say this 20:21 oxenfreedan hp pavilion dv6000 20:21 Calinou mobile CPUs are close to their desktop counterparts, unlike graphic cards 20:21 Jordach dont ever knock a hp pavillion 20:21 Jordach they are beasts of machines 20:21 Calinou if you reduce frequency of a CPU by 30%, performance only goes down by like 20 to 25% 20:21 Calinou making your perf/watt better even if you don't touch voltage 20:21 oxenfreedan what do you knock? 20:21 Calinou oxenfreedan, ponies 20:22 Jordach dont ever basically diss the pavillion range 20:22 Jordach i've never had one go wrong 20:22 Exio Calinou: but perf/$ gets fucked up 20:22 Calinou my old laptop is an hp pavillon 20:22 Exio they are expensive but worse? 20:22 Exio how does that work 20:22 BrandonReese I've got a 7 year old gateway laptop skill kicking 20:23 Calinou heavy, shit battery, makes "crr" sounds when opening screen, insanely slow 5400rpm HDD 20:23 Calinou slow boot times 20:23 Calinou and all that 20:23 Calinou oh and bad screen 20:23 Calinou TN, shiny screen, 1440×900 on a 17". 20:23 Exio the battery of my acer aspire one was pretty good 20:23 Exio really, it is and was amazing 20:23 Exio about 50% of its "max charge" and it has about 3 years :D 20:23 oxenfreedan hahahhaa pls dont tell me that that was one of those ttiny laptops 20:23 Exio AAO is a netbook, yes 20:24 Calinou 50% after 3 years doesn't sound that good 20:24 oxenfreedan hehe 20:24 Exio Calinou: most of the laptops i know get 50% after a year and half or less of use 20:24 Exio that is 50% of a 3cell battery 20:24 oxenfreedan the battery on my laptop is giant 20:25 Exio and i got boot times of about 15 seconds (from bios -> whole system) 20:25 oxenfreedan it has the upgraded battery 20:25 Exio 7 seconds from grub to the whole system 20:25 Calinou "upgraded", bigger margins since 2002 20:25 Exio 5 to just the TTY 20:25 oxenfreedan what os? 20:25 Exio oxenfreedan: gentoo, but i don't start it since i got the desktop 20:25 Exio (start for more than 30 minutes) 20:26 Exio my desktop can be a shitty arch but works pretty well when multithreading :P 20:26 Exio i can start firefox and MT and CS CZ at same time! 20:26 oxenfreedan the new desktop im building for myself will have the amd phenom 2 x6 processor :-) 20:26 Calinou >new >phenom x6 20:26 Exio Calinou: 6 FPUs 20:26 Calinou are you a FX hater, or just buying old stuff because you don't know what's current gen? 20:26 Calinou Exio, it performs worse than a FX-8xxx 20:27 Exio 8100? ;P 20:27 oxenfreedan no its the highest my mobo supports 20:27 Exio the vishera is a pretty well arch though 20:27 Exio oxenfreedan: > new > old mobo 20:27 Exio wait, AM3+? 20:27 Exio then you can upgrade to a vishera without any problem 20:27 oxenfreedan yes AM3 socket 20:27 Exio AM3 != AM3+ 20:27 oxenfreedan vishera? 20:27 Exio what is it? 20:27 Exio the latest FX 20:28 oxenfreedan am3 20:28 oxenfreedan FX? 20:28 Exio didn't know there was phenom 2 x6 + am3 20:28 oxenfreedan well there is 20:28 Exio !google amd fx arch vishera 20:28 Exio bots pls 20:28 frogcrush !g i believe 20:28 MinetestBot frogcrush: http://thisibelieve.org/ 20:28 oxenfreedan your confusing me 20:28 Calinou !g amd fx arch vishera Exio mlp oxenfreedan minetest 20:28 MinetestBot Calinou: No results found for 'amd fx arch vishera Exio mlp oxenfreedan minetest'. 20:29 Calinou \o/ 20:29 Calinou google, I won 20:29 Exio !g amd fx arch vishera 20:29 MinetestBot Exio: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/22/amds-second-generation-fx-processor-vishera/ 20:30 oxenfreedan omw this is so confusing cause i have no clue whats going on 20:31 Exio wtf 20:31 Exio and you are trying to build a desktop? 20:31 oxenfreedan yes... 20:31 Calinou even if you fully have a clue, it'll be hard 20:31 Calinou it took me an entire day to build my PC, and I was scared of breaking my HW 20:32 oxenfreedan what is that supposed to mean 20:32 Exio lol 20:32 Calinou oh, and it still crashes at boot. 20:32 Calinou haven't tried when compiling something 20:32 Exio Calinou: run some super-heavy-and-intensive benchmark for 30 minutes 20:32 Exio or a hour :P 20:32 Calinou useless 20:32 oxenfreedan all i have so far is the motherboard in a case i need a processor (about to get that) and later i will need a power supply 20:32 Exio why Calinou? 20:32 Calinou oxenfreedan, pick a decent power supply 20:32 Calinou not a 15€ one 20:33 Exio ^ 20:33 Calinou be careful about this 20:33 Calinou low end is good, jokes are not 20:33 oxenfreedan whats that in us dollars 20:34 Exio 20 20:34 Exio buy a decent one, he said 20:34 Calinou decent ones cost 60-80$ 20:34 oxenfreedan the one im looking at is a 30 dollar one 20:34 Calinou shit one then 20:34 Calinou phew, we saved you 8) 20:35 * oxenfreedan may leave cause of some peoples language ^ 20:35 Exio aww 20:35 Exio poor oxenfreedan 20:35 * oxenfreedan may leave cause of that too ^ 20:35 Calinou I don't swear often, you saw worse, probably 20:36 oxenfreedan actually i have once on redcrab 20:36 sfan5 good night 20:36 oxenfreedan piggyguys languagge 20:36 Exio just shutup god damnit fuck you motherfucker idiot, fucking stupid 20:36 Exio that is k 20:36 * oxenfreedan has left 20:37 * Calinou shrugs 20:37 Calinou night, anyway :) 20:38 NekoGloop meow 20:38 Taoki For anyone interested in my structures / towns mod: Thanks to hmmmm fixing schematic facedir and PilzAdam's help with the furnace crash, the mod is now switched to use schematic + voxelmanip support. This will allow for much bigger towns which are less resource intensive to build, and remove malformed (incomplete) building spawns 20:38 Taoki So if anyone has the mod or is interested, it's safer and better to get it now / should be updated to this 20:41 skydoesminetest what is the purpose of a bot? 20:42 MinetestBot Don't you like bots? 20:42 skydoesminetest im fine with bots but what is your purpose 20:43 skydoesminetest if you are a bot 20:43 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node 20:43 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node 20:43 PilzAdam ^ this is helpful 20:43 skydoesminetest oh 20:43 PilzAdam also, automated anti spam/flood protection 20:44 skydoesminetest what is their purpose on a server 20:44 PilzAdam !op ShadowBot` 20:44 skydoesminetest cause in know that stan5 has put a bot on servers 20:44 PilzAdam ShadowBot`, STFU 20:44 Taoki !dev VoxelManip 20:44 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/VoxelManip 20:44 Taoki !dev VoxelManip() 20:44 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/VoxelManip() 20:44 Taoki Muahahaha <:) 20:53 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/p/yvkDpFF51 I want one of these 20:53 PilzAdam ^ caution, pron 20:58 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist 1c7c5d571d 2013-07-09T13:55:39-07:00 http://git.io/DprWcQ 21:21 Kacey a wild Kacey appears! 21:21 * PilzAdam shoots it 21:22 Kacey ithas no effect 21:23 * NekoGloop uses Draco Meteor 21:27 * Kacey uses Chuck Norris 21:27 NekoGloop It doesn't affect NEKOGLOOP... 21:27 * Kacey uses kittens 21:28 NekoGloop It's not very effective... 21:29 NekoGloop Fighting fire with fire doesn't work well ;) 21:29 Kacey tuesday "who is best pony", wednesday "this feature sucks" day, thursday "what games do you play" day, saturday is DE wars day, sunday hardware brands wars 21:29 Kacey huh 21:31 PilzAdam Kacey, monday and friday are distro flamewars 21:31 NekoGloop No, monday is "fuck life I want to sleep", friday is "PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAY" 21:32 PilzAdam no 21:35 Kacey i say pinky pie! 21:35 NekoGloop I say a dead pony. 21:37 * PilzAdam revives the pony 21:37 NekoGloop I'm talking about which one is best. I say best pony is dead pony. 21:38 PilzAdam that pony doesnt exist 21:38 NekoGloop A shotgun says otherwise. 21:38 * MinetestBot says otherwise 21:40 Kacey a NUCLEAR MISSLE says otherwaise 21:40 Kacey otherwise* 21:44 NekoGloop This pie says otherwise 21:45 * NekoGloop throws the pie at PilzAdam's face 21:45 PilzAdam fantastic, now you have a mushroom with pie all over it 21:46 NekoGloop Ought to smell better 21:52 Taoki Oh, I sort of forgot to ask. Was the multiple material issue with models fixed? Some people reported that it didn't work, even if I meant it to when I added model support 21:52 Taoki Like if a mesh has several segments, ability to texture each ones individually 21:52 Taoki *multiple materials 21:52 PilzAdam it turned out that not the patch but the model that was broken due to it was wrong 21:53 PilzAdam so we need to re-merge that patch 21:53 Taoki Ah. So if the model is done properly it should work now yes? 21:53 Taoki Ah, not merged yet. Ok 21:54 Taoki If the model was the issue then yeah, please re-merge it when you get to it 22:02 Taoki I think it was https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/767 22:09 LazyJ My apologies for interjecting, where in minetest.net forums is the setting to change the language preference? I haven't been able to locate it in my profile settings. 22:10 PilzAdam there is no support for other languages 22:10 LazyJ Ah. 22:10 LazyJ Ok, thanks for the info. 22:24 PilzAdam Taoki, done 22:24 MinetestBot GIT: stujones11@server.fake commited to minetest/minetest: Fix multiple texture support for animated meshnodes e8f201cefa 2013-07-09T15:22:21-07:00 http://git.io/BlPPHg 22:24 Taoki PilzAdam: Ok, thanks! 22:25 Taoki Might be useful for the future ideas 22:26 PilzAdam this might be useful for multiple textures for animated meshnodes 22:30 Taoki Mesh nodes... if only... 22:30 Taoki I heard RBA was working on it... i couldn't figure it out for nodes tho 22:31 PilzAdam RBA works on _everything_ 22:34 Taoki Much of the awesome stuff, yes :) 22:34 Taoki hmmmm is working on the other half of "much of the awesome stuff" (namely vmanip / schematics and v7) 22:41 Exio sapier in the other half 22:41 Exio 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 = minetest 22:42 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0 22:47 PilzAdam and PilzAdam is useless :-/ 22:53 Exio no, you are a 1/3 in the engine 22:53 Exio but like 4/3 of the lua game :P 23:00 NekoGloop because everything has to go through him? 23:22 hmmmm heh 23:22 hmmmm http://www.crytek.com/career/offers/overview/frankfurt/programming-engineering/linux-programmer 23:32 Kacey http://www.coolmath-games.com/0-fruits/index.html huh 23:36 PilzAdam the music is epic 23:39 LazyJ Anyone know if <0.4.6 "/clearobjects" removes dropped items before the server crashes? 23:39 LazyJ Will successive attempts eventually accomplish the task? 23:40 PilzAdam depends on the mapsize 23:40 PilzAdam its not really predictable 23:42 LazyJ The current map size is 2.7gb 23:42 LazyJ We are experiencing odd, vertical columns of dropped items appearing above ground and embedded below ground. 23:43 LazyJ Sokomine told me about turning off F4 and coming back to a place to see the dropped items. 23:43 LazyJ Quite prolific in some areas. 23:44 LazyJ The server admin has indicated that an upgrade to 0.4.7 is not likely. 23:45 PilzAdam well, if you dont update then its your fault 23:46 LazyJ Yeah, so that's why I'm trying to figure out how to work with the tools I'm given. 23:51 sokomine kahrl did take a look at those columns yesterday 23:51 sokomine the method to identify these colums was described to me by pilzadam :- 23:51 sokomine :-) 23:52 sokomine updating might be the best idea. at least eventually 23:52 LazyJ Agreed, but that's out of my hands. 23:54 LazyJ Now I'm wondering if it would have been best not to install any mods at all. 23:54 PilzAdam no, that wouldnt help 23:54 sokomine no. without mods, the game's not that great 23:55 LazyJ Aye. But then perhaps he wouldn't be so reluctant to upgrade the server. 23:55 sokomine i hope the bug can be fixed. kahrl did take a look at it, and i hope it gives him an idea what the bug is 23:55 LazyJ We probably wouldn't have too many players either. Oy... 23:56 LazyJ Ah, I'm just griping some old frustration. 23:56 sokomine oh. don't be frustrated. most things do get better 23:56 LazyJ Yesterday I loaded up the old .0.4.4 world. 23:57 LazyJ We were told that the database was incompatible with 0.4.6so that world had to be scrapped. 23:57 sokomine between 0.4.4 and 0.4.7? don't think so 23:57 LazyJ Turns out, after I edited the world.mt file and put the mods in the mod folder as a modpack, things worked. 23:57 sokomine maybe between older 0.3er versions 23:58 sokomine indidivual mods may cause unknown blocks because the mod or the name of objects changed, but that's usually not such a big problem 23:58 sokomine how large was the old world? 23:59 LazyJ I'd experienced a bit of a mess during the transition after Calinou merged the stairs+ into moreblocks and then some of those blocks were incorporated into the default game. 23:59 LazyJ These were just in my singleplayer worlds, small by comparison to the server world.