Time Nick Message 00:06 * NekoGloop tosses a grenade 00:06 PilzAdam ban? 00:06 Exio $##nonwhere ;P 00:07 NekoGloop Nope. 00:07 Exio yes why not 00:07 Exio NekoGloop: didn't you leave 4ever 00:07 NekoGloop I left until a new version 00:07 NekoGloop because progress 00:07 NekoGloop supposedly 00:08 Exio aw 00:08 NekoGloop really? forum ban? 00:08 Exio who said forum ban 00:09 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/8v7cOch.png this does 00:09 Exio ah 00:09 PilzAdam did you blaned your posts? 00:10 PilzAdam *have you 00:10 PilzAdam *blanked 00:10 NekoGloop I had deleted glooptest from github 00:10 VanessaE I resurrected it. 00:10 NekoGloop I can't bloody well tell 00:12 PilzAdam ok, finished 10 minutes of that video... TODO: the other 9 hours and 50 minutes 00:12 Jordach lololololol 00:12 Exio hi Jordach 00:12 PilzAdam Jordach, no cloak? 00:12 Jordach oops 00:13 Jordach there we go 00:13 hacker PilzAdam: what video, btw? 00:14 VanessaE NekoGloop: btw, Kacey repaired the spare kitten generator. it runs on obsidian now, I think :P 00:14 PilzAdam Exio, "THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD!" 00:14 NekoGloop Oh god. 00:14 hacker wtf? 00:14 NekoGloop that video 00:14 Jordach hey NekoGloop 00:14 * Jordach pets NekoGloop 00:14 * NekoGloop purrs 00:15 Jordach 00:15 * MinetestBot puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head 00:15 * NekoGloop is banned from the forums by presumably IP so no minetest for me even if I ever wanted to 00:16 * NekoGloop slaps MinetestBot upside the head 00:16 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97284#p97284 00:16 Jordach PilzAdam, ^ 00:16 NekoGloop you dick 00:16 NekoGloop what does it say 00:16 Jordach VanessaE, unban neko 00:17 NekoGloop he 00:17 NekoGloop hehe 00:17 Jordach NekoGloop, you should do more textures 00:17 Jordach IMHO 00:17 NekoGloop jumpy today, are we enter key? :P 00:17 PilzAdam NekoGloop, do you plan to post a "IM BACK!" topic? 00:17 NekoGloop PilzAdam, I see no reason to 00:17 Jordach \o/ 00:17 PilzAdam good 00:17 NekoGloop Therefore I will not 00:19 NekoGloop Jordach, What makes you say that? 00:20 Jordach i thought the opposite for a moment 00:20 NekoGloop I mean the textures. 00:20 VanessaE Jordach: I can't. ask the one who banned him. 00:20 NekoGloop Well this could take a while. 00:20 Jordach NekoGloop, the ones you made for mt_game were nice 00:20 * NekoGloop puts feet up on desk and dozes off 00:21 Jordach and anyways, we need a cat in IRC 00:21 NekoGloop They're mainly vanessa's textures with all the edits she had me do >.> 00:21 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97286#p97286 00:21 Exio don't you have NekoGloop now? 00:21 PilzAdam ( NekoGloop: that post says: "How many McDonalds cheeseburger do I have to eat to get the energy needed to move fast enough to watch an 10 hour video in 20 minutes?") 00:21 NekoGloop PilzAdam, over 9000 00:22 Jordach /nick FatAdam 00:22 Jordach enjoy your diabeetus 00:22 PilzAdam *Fast 00:22 PilzAdam ;-) 00:23 NekoGloop Well... now the question is "who banned me" 00:23 Jordach heh 00:23 Jordach probably calinou or zyxeht 00:23 * PilzAdam bets 1$ on Calinou 00:23 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97287#p97287 00:23 NekoGloop Most likely, if it's not anyone here :P 00:24 PilzAdam !rev zyxeht 00:24 MinetestBot thexyz 00:24 PilzAdam >:-) 00:24 Exio http://piwik.xyz.is/piwik.js 00:24 Exio i finally looked at the request log 00:24 * Jordach drums on the laptop 00:24 Jordach <- at girlfriends 00:24 NekoGloop Oh, I thought that was a new moderator 00:24 Exio and saw what xyz was doing with his domain 00:25 PilzAdam Exio, there is a reason why I block the xyz.is scripts in the forums ;-) 00:25 thexyz hm? 00:25 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on thexyz's head 00:25 Jordach https://xyz.is/awesome 00:25 Jordach NOPE.AVI 00:25 thexyz right, I banned NekoGloop 00:25 thexyz Jordach: admit it 00:26 PilzAdam thexyz, mind to unban him? 00:26 Jordach http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nope.gif 00:26 thexyz PilzAdam: I won't do that 00:26 Jordach even when not with my user commands, i still nope.avi people 00:26 thexyz PilzAdam: ask other moderators 00:26 PilzAdam *nope.gif 00:27 PilzAdam thexyz, Jordach: I can't. ask the one who banned him. 00:27 NekoGloop No minetest it is then. 00:27 VanessaE I don't want to step on anyone's toes 00:27 VanessaE I'm hated enough around here as it is. 00:27 * NekoGloop must have missed something 00:28 Jordach in shocking light of this revelation 00:28 Jordach we need a trusted person to become moderator 00:28 thexyz oh, so if VanessaE insists 00:28 NekoGloop so anyone but me 00:28 VanessaE insists? huh? 00:28 NekoGloop who isn't already a moderator and has at least one intellectual post on the forums 00:28 Jordach > intellectual 00:28 Jordach > minecraft converts usually being dumb 00:29 PilzAdam NekoGloop, /me 00:29 Jordach amiright 00:29 thexyz VanessaE: right 00:29 NekoGloop Ohey, forums. 00:29 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94890#p94890 <- that one 00:29 thexyz I've lifted the ban 00:29 NekoGloop they exist noqw 00:30 * NekoGloop goes off and lurks for another year before signing up again 00:30 thexyz PilzAdam: so, what's the reason you block xyz.is scripts? 00:30 PilzAdam I dont want to be tracked 00:31 Jordach lol, user metrics 00:31 Exio paranoia thexyz 00:31 Jordach remind me to kill that domain in hosts.txt 00:31 Jordach >:D 00:31 thexyz PilzAdam: then set do-not-track header 00:31 NekoGloop hm... 00:31 thexyz hm, I probably should put piwik in subdirectory and append piwik.js to http://forum.minetest.net/include/js/min/punbb.common.min.js 00:31 * NekoGloop should probably look at the minetest changelog before looking through the mods 00:31 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94894#p94894 00:31 thexyz that'd be fun 00:32 Jordach moebius strip of posts 00:32 thexyz the only way to not be tracked is to not use the internet 00:32 Jordach lol, NSA 00:32 Jordach *cough* 00:32 PilzAdam thexyz, well, I do my best ;-) 00:33 thexyz yeah 00:33 PilzAdam not using google, FB and stuff like that is a good start 00:33 Jordach you say you want to not be tracked, yet i can see your IP 00:33 Jordach GG 00:33 Exio what can you get with his ip 00:33 PilzAdam Jordach, and? 00:33 Jordach Exio, geolocation 00:34 Exio i guess, the country 00:34 Exio see 00:34 Exio you can know the country where PilzAdam lives 00:34 PilzAdam Germany \o/ 00:34 Exio the geolocation will throw a city at like 500km away of where he is 00:34 PilzAdam <- IP tracker 00:34 Jordach mailto:PilzAdam@77-21-146-86-dynip.superkabel.de can be traced down to 10m 00:35 Exio mailto:? lol 00:35 PilzAdam sure? 00:35 Exio Jordach: who told that to you? your parents? lol 00:35 Jordach if i know the exact locations and ping times of three servers that PilzAdam uses 00:35 Jordach i can then total the distance 00:36 Jordach through triangulation + speed / time = distance 00:36 Exio the ping times can't mean a lot in a normal network usage 00:36 PilzAdam Jordach, no, you know the location of the next node to me 00:37 PilzAdam wich is, in my case, pretty far away 00:37 Jordach which* 00:37 Exio btw, if you want to know where PilzAdam lives 00:37 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2443 00:37 NekoGloop no, wich 00:37 Exio From: Germany 00:37 NekoGloop say it with a french accent 00:37 Jordach weeche 00:37 PilzAdam Note: next time the germans invade britain: change which to wich 00:38 Jordach PilzAdam, we're ready 00:38 NekoGloop heh 00:38 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/wACtf.gif 00:38 Jordach :D 00:42 PilzAdam LOL 00:42 Jordach PilzAdam, yeah 00:43 Jordach i often lol at that one 00:43 PilzAdam that last jeep part reminds me to empty BF3 servers... 00:43 Jordach yeah 00:43 Jordach whee! 00:43 NekoGloop plot twist: they're playing BF4 00:43 Jordach lol 00:43 * PilzAdam decided to not buy BF4 00:43 NekoGloop oh it's a thing 00:43 NekoGloop then BF5 00:44 * Jordach buys PilzAdam BF4 00:44 Jordach on PS4 00:44 PilzAdam if EA stops being an idiot 00:44 Jordach LOL; SimCity 00:44 Jordach i still play SC 2000 00:45 NekoGloop starcraft 2000 00:45 Jordach NekoGloop, simcity 00:45 NekoGloop I know 00:45 PilzAdam how long have they worked on starcraft 3? 00:46 PilzAdam Starcraft 2000 ETA: NaN 00:48 blakeman1 hello, im new. how do i join a server? 00:48 PilzAdam blakeman1, a Minetest server? 00:48 VanessaE just sign on. 00:48 blakeman1 yes 00:48 VanessaE pick a server, pick a user name and make up a password. 00:49 VanessaE find the server's thread on the minetest forum if there is now and read the server's rules. 00:49 VanessaE that's about it usually. 00:49 VanessaE if there is one* 00:49 blakeman1 last time when i tried to connect to yours, it said invalid password 00:50 PilzAdam blakeman1, the basic concept is to just type in the IP and port, no registration is required (in fact, the first login is a registration, so you can enter a password) 00:50 blakeman1 plus when i try to join, it stops mid-way on loading "Media..." 00:50 PilzAdam some servers, like VanessaE's, force users to set a password at first connect 00:51 PilzAdam it doesnt stop at "Media", it just takes long to download all the mods from the server 00:51 blakeman1 the log is saying "could not load mesh" 00:51 PilzAdam thats normal 00:51 blakeman1 ive g2g, ill come back later 00:51 blakeman1 thx 00:52 StarBlessed Hey guys... I was thinking... To speed up everyone's logins... Would it be worthwhile setting up a global http server that houses all the media files for mods etc? That way everyone who is setting up a Minetest server can just point their conf file at the global server. 00:53 PilzAdam StarBlessed, I already suggested that 00:53 PilzAdam we just need a host 00:53 StarBlessed Oh... Well... I have the bandwidth... 00:54 PilzAdam that would be a great conribution to the community! 00:54 PilzAdam +t 00:54 StarBlessed Ok :D 00:54 StarBlessed Perhaps i can set up FTP access for the mod devs to upload their content. That way they can update as required. 00:54 PilzAdam someone just needs to collect all the media files of _all_ the mods on the forums 00:54 Jordach but you've got to be sure that the media updates everytime the mod changes textures 00:55 Jordach so i could create a new wool mod relacement 00:55 Jordach which is no longer needed in 0,4,7 00:55 PilzAdam filename conflicts needs to be resolved somehow 00:55 Jordach PilzAdam, you know why wool white + dye = dyedwool + 16 nodes 00:55 StarBlessed What if... I setup a git hub so everyone developing mods could upload there, then setup an automated script to pull all the media across to the http server? 00:56 Jordach wool was meant for pixel art 00:56 Jordach and jordan4ibanez can attest to that 00:56 jordan4ibanez I have no opinion. 00:56 Jordach (with colour_blocks) 00:56 PilzAdam hey jordan 00:56 jordan4ibanez Hello. 00:56 Jordach jordan4ibanez, remember the infinity server 00:56 Jordach (the first one) 00:57 StarBlessed Hmmmm... Thats probably a little over complicated though... 00:57 PilzAdam StarBlessed, the problem is that if you want to pull request your files in you have to clone the repo with all the media files 00:57 jordan4ibanez Yeah. 00:57 Jordach StarBlessed, dont ever use four mmmm's at once 00:57 Jordach jordan4ibanez, you used colour_blocks textured as wool right 00:57 Jordach (with an old MC4MT) 00:57 StarBlessed Jordach: 3 mmm's ok? 00:58 Jordach StarBlessed, yes because hmmmm is the core dev 00:58 jordan4ibanez I used it for a lot of things. 00:58 * StarBlessed grins 00:58 StarBlessed ok 00:58 Jordach but its job was pixel art 00:58 Jordach as seen with city build 1 00:58 PilzAdam StarBlessed, a forum topic would be too much work for you, I guess 00:59 Jordach iirc, bash scripts can copy files with certain file extensions 00:59 jordan4ibanez What is the server with the most users now? 00:59 Jordach jordan4ibanez, wazuclan / linuxgaming 00:59 StarBlessed Sorry, after being made redundant last week, I've been a little slack on it. I'm stressing out bad over not working 00:59 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, look at http://minetest.net/servers 00:59 Jordach StarBlessed, sorry to hear 01:00 StarBlessed Its ok. Thanks Jordach. My wife and I are a little scared of what it all means. You know, income etc. But we've decided to go it alone and start a business. 01:01 Jordach StarBlessed, you own a VPS 01:01 Jordach make use of it 01:01 StarBlessed I own a Dedicated Server. But selling VPS space isnt very popular over here. 01:01 StarBlessed It'd be a great way to pay for the server if anyone was interested in it though 01:02 StarBlessed I've been woking on setting up the business. Here : www.viewskew.com 01:03 StarBlessed There's always that little voice in the back of your mind that says "You're worthless. You're going to fail" 01:03 Jordach twss 01:04 StarBlessed :P 01:05 Jordach i hate it when i close the spotify web player by mistake 01:05 StarBlessed LOL! So what would you suggest I do with the VPS Jordach ? 01:05 Jordach mine btc 01:05 Jordach on spare nodes 01:06 PilzAdam StarBlessed, the good thing with humans is that they are _very_ flexible, they are never "useless" 01:06 PilzAdam (unlike e.g. MinetestBot) 01:06 MinetestBot :-( 01:06 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 01:06 Jordach she need love too! 01:07 MinetestBot *sniff* 01:07 Jordach we treat her like shes worthless 01:07 StarBlessed lol @ PilzAdam. I thought about mining BTC Jordach, but the amount I would get out of it equates to about 1USD per month 01:07 NekoGloop StarBlessed, but it's still money. 01:07 PilzAdam \o/ 1 hour 01:07 Jordach NekoGloop's got a point 01:08 NekoGloop more than I make 01:08 PilzAdam "THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGART" 01:08 StarBlessed Ummm... yes... But the power to run it would be worth about $60 per month... 01:08 StarBlessed I'd be making a net gain of -$59 01:08 StarBlessed lol 01:09 NekoGloop more than i make 01:10 Exio [22:07:10] lol @ PilzAdam. I thought about mining BTC Jordach, but the amount I would get out of it equates to about 1USD per month 01:10 Exio mine LTC with performance/powerusage cpus 01:10 PilzAdam StarBlessed, re the media server: what about a simple upload web interface? 01:10 PilzAdam StarBlessed, with registration for some people of the community 01:10 Jordach i could spend the day putting files together 01:11 Jordach and then batch uploading zipballs 01:12 StarBlessed Exio: BTC mining is not worth while without an ASIC chip or multiple high power GFX cards. Neither of which I can afford. 01:12 PilzAdam VanessaE only needs ti write a simple script and we have 90% if all modes covered 01:12 Exio StarBlessed: that is why i said LTC 01:12 PilzAdam *to 01:12 StarBlessed PilzAdam: Possible... I'll have to investigate it. The biggest problem is all the media has to be in a single folder 01:12 PilzAdam StarBlessed, best solution would be if it had .zip support 01:12 StarBlessed Exio: Sorry missed that. LTC would be ok, but very quickly the difficulty will put it out of range. 01:13 StarBlessed Ok PilzAdam, Ill have a look around. 01:13 Jordach StarBlessed, for texture pack makers 01:13 StarBlessed Yup, understood. 01:13 Jordach it would be nice to download every file at once 01:13 Jordach as a zipball like github 01:13 Jordach NekoGloop, you have a 3ds 01:13 NekoGloop yes 01:13 Jordach cant wait for smash bros 01:14 Jordach on 3ds 01:14 Exio yep, but at least mining LTC with a high-end GPU works faster as a high-end CPU :P 01:14 * NekoGloop would prefer wii U but lol no has wii U 01:14 PilzAdam 1 hour 10 minutes, have to go now, its too late :-/ 01:14 Jordach the WiiU is an iPad with Nintendo on it 01:14 VanessaE script? 01:14 VanessaE meh 01:14 Exio StarBlessed: i actually use a cpuminer for checking if my overclocking is stable and so :P 01:15 Exio s/a // 01:15 PilzAdam bye 01:15 StarBlessed LOL! ok Exio 01:16 Exio i don't mine bitcoin or litecoin though 01:16 Exio but the cpuminer is good for benchmarks 01:17 StarBlessed Question, in the server conf file, can you specify more than a single path for media files? 01:17 Exio i don't think so 01:18 StarBlessed Damn... That makes things difficult. 01:23 VanessaE litecoin? 01:23 blakeman1 im back 01:23 blakeman1 :) 01:24 VanessaE I've heard that one before but no idea what good it is. 01:24 VanessaE may as well be Flooz. :P 01:24 blakeman1 its this just like minecraft? 01:24 VanessaE blakeman1: no. minetest is similar but definitely not "just like" 01:24 Exio but we are 100% more cooler 01:24 VanessaE and I hope to G*d it never becomes "just like" it either. 01:24 blakeman1 thats what i mean by 01:25 blakeman1 SWEET! a sphax texturepack! 01:25 blakeman1 VanessaE: are you a dev? 01:26 Jordach nope 01:27 kahrl if minetest was just like minecraft it would crash with a stack overflow exception when you punch a big connected area of floating snow 01:27 VanessaE no and never will be 01:27 blakeman1 oh, she (username sounds like a woman) has a texturepack and a few servers, so i just assumed 01:28 Jordach OMG OMG OMG OMG 01:28 VanessaE she yes; one server, several mods, a few texture packs 01:28 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97225#p97225 01:28 blakeman1 i cant belive sphax supports this game 01:28 Jordach kahrl, HAHA 01:28 VanessaE Jordach: that's on my server. 01:28 Jordach ikr 01:28 VanessaE I installed it earlier, it works fairly well 01:28 Jordach its just... 01:28 Jordach fucking awesome 01:29 blakeman1 what does that do 01:29 Jordach adds 3d tools, ala mc 01:29 VanessaE blakeman1: wielded tools. 01:29 Jordach (eg, anyone can see your wielded tool) 01:29 Jordach ninja'd 01:30 blakeman1 client or server side? 01:30 Jordach serverside 01:30 Exio Jordach: you got ninja'd 01:30 blakeman1 so its a plugin? i cant install it onto my client or anything 01:30 Exio blakeman1: all mods are server-sidely here 01:30 Jordach no 01:30 Jordach the client downloads the mods from the sevrer 01:30 Jordach server* 01:30 blakeman1 ook 01:30 blakeman1 like plugins 01:30 Jordach and renders them to the screen 01:31 Jordach we do not use the word plugins 01:31 blakeman1 sorry 01:31 Jordach this isnt MC 01:31 blakeman1 mod = plugins? 01:31 blakeman1 ik 01:31 NekoGloop plugins plugins plugins plugins 01:31 Exio plugmods :D 01:31 blakeman1 PPPLLLUUGINS 01:31 blakeman1 lol 01:31 Exio Jordach: the client is more than that but well 01:32 blakeman1 so why is there a tutorial to install a mod? 01:32 Jordach plan b 01:32 blakeman1 wait 01:32 blakeman1 im stupid 01:32 blakeman1 only works if YOU run a server 01:32 VanessaE or single player mode. 01:32 VanessaE (which runs a server anyway) 01:33 Jordach but then no-one sees your tools 01:33 blakeman1 singleplayer runs a internal? 01:33 Exio yes 01:33 blakeman1 kk 01:33 Exio singleplayer is just a "tweaked-a-bit-and-autostarted server" + client autoconnecting :P 01:34 blakeman1 what texturepack should i use? 01:34 Jordach VanessaE's HDX 01:34 VanessaE HDX of course. 01:34 Exio haha 01:34 Jordach ninja'd 01:34 VanessaE :P 01:34 blakeman1 XP 01:34 Jordach i win this round 01:34 Exio i actually don't like very-"real" TPs for a blocky game but :P 01:34 VanessaE pick a resolution (16 to 512px) appropriate for your hardware. 01:35 Exio VanessaE: when are you going to release the 1024x version? 01:35 blakeman1 16x is the lowest? 01:35 VanessaE blakeman1: yeah 01:35 Exio blakeman1: HDX? yes 01:35 VanessaE Exio: never, 01:35 Exio but MT supports lower text sizes 01:36 Exio VanessaE: aww, why not? >:D 01:36 VanessaE MT can barely even handle the 256px size and the 512px size is almost useless now 01:36 VanessaE it'll never handle a 1024px size. 01:36 blakeman1 is 256x CPU intensive? 01:36 Exio i would remove the "never" VanessaE 01:36 Exio blakeman1: ram intensive 01:36 blakeman1 that 01:37 blakeman1 yeah 01:37 VanessaE 256px needs about 2GB of RAM to run comfortably and a decent video card. 01:37 blakeman1 when i say my graphics card is s***, ITS S*** 01:37 blakeman1 cant even run MC 01:38 Exio blakeman1: what gpu? some old igp? 01:38 VanessaE if it's that bad, you should stick to the lowest resolution or don't use HDX. it's too intensive for low-end hardware. 01:38 blakeman1 sorry, gpu is...? 01:38 VanessaE your graphics card. 01:38 blakeman1 ATI Radeon 3000 01:38 VanessaE oh my 01:38 blakeman1 yeah... i know... 01:39 blakeman1 Van, are you on your server right now? 01:40 VanessaE no but I can sign on if you need me to 01:40 Exio i'm pretty sure her server will kill your GPU, CPU, RAM, mobo and family ^^ 01:40 Exio s/and family// 01:40 NekoGloop you all need a bot that does that for you 01:40 Exio now i'm going to sleep 01:40 blakeman1 Jordach: Nice MC texture pack 01:41 blakeman1 good night 01:41 Jordach blakeman1, its broken though] 01:41 Exio night! :P 01:41 Jordach and i lost the source files 01:41 blakeman1 oh... 01:41 VanessaE blakeman1: I'm there now. 01:41 Jordach calinou can pick up the pieces 01:41 Jordach i aint no more 01:41 blakeman1 oh, i was just wondering VanessaE 01:42 blakeman1 what about custom skins? 01:42 blakeman1 can people have different ones on servers? 01:42 Jordach blakeman1, only on VanessaE's server 01:42 blakeman1 oh 01:43 Jordach and other servers with skin changing mods or skins mod 01:43 Jordach but generally you get sam: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Player 01:43 VanessaE bbl 01:43 blakeman1 bye 01:44 NekoGloop ohey, a loading bar 01:44 VanessaE interact granted, blakeman1. 01:44 VanessaE bbl 01:44 Jordach small edit to player on mt wiki: The official name given for the player's appearance is Sam, which is an acronym for Sam ain't Minecraft. 01:44 blakeman1 are they the same pixels by pixels as MC? 01:44 Jordach yes 01:45 Jordach 16x 01:45 blakeman1 can i use my MC format? 01:45 Jordach no 01:45 Jordach we dont use it 01:45 NekoGloop with the 1.5 you just need to change names and stuff 01:45 NekoGloop shut up jordach 01:45 Jordach they stole our ida 01:45 Jordach idea* 01:45 blakeman1 what? 01:46 Jordach blakeman1, we just put texture files in minetest/textures/all/ directory with NO FOLDERS. 01:46 Jordach provided the texture names are the same as the ones on the server, the world will appear different for you. 01:46 blakeman1 what do we save it as? 01:46 Jordach blakeman1, we dont support zip folder texture packs 01:47 Jordach i really need to write this faq 01:47 kahrl btw ignore http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Skin as it's talking about the old 2-D player sprite 01:47 blakeman1 what extension then? 01:47 Exio # Path to texture directory. All textures are first searched from here. 01:47 Exio #texture_path = 01:47 Exio Jordach: ^ 01:47 Jordach doesnt count folders Exio 01:47 Jordach it just changes the /textures/all folder's location in relation to minetest 01:48 blakeman1 so the Wiki is false? 01:48 Exio blakeman1: outdated 01:48 blakeman1 you guys should update it 01:48 Jordach honestly, i should write the faq that i have been thinking about 01:48 blakeman1 when was the last minetest update? 01:48 Jordach about few weeks ago 01:48 Exio a bit ago 01:49 blakeman1 still being worked on? 01:49 Exio if you wonder the changes, http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 01:49 Exio if you want to know if MT is dead or not, check the commit log and the hours https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master 01:50 blakeman1 thanks 01:51 blakeman1 is default 16x? 01:51 Exio yep 01:51 blakeman1 i would gess default port is 30000? 01:51 blakeman1 *guess 01:52 Jordach why yes, yes it is 01:52 blakeman1 :) 01:52 blakeman1 Jordach, you on a server? 01:52 Jordach writing the faq sounds better and better the more i think about it 01:52 Jordach blakeman1, no 01:52 Jordach minetest plays like crap on latops 01:52 Jordach laptops* 01:52 blakeman1 i could give you some questions 01:52 Jordach (cant play with a touchpad) 01:52 Jordach sure, fire away....provided i dont pass out (2:52 AM here) 01:53 Exio Jordach: why plays like crap? 01:53 Jordach because i cant mine for shit on a touchpad 01:53 Jordach its like pissing with a hard on. 01:53 Jordach very hard. 01:53 blakeman1 followed... 01:53 * Jordach giggles 01:54 Jordach sleep deprivation = /me crazy 01:55 NekoGloop so apparently there's a new damage system for entities? 01:55 blakeman1 jordach, you should make a Beginner FAQ and a Technical FAQ 01:55 Jordach NekoGloop, yes 01:55 Jordach blakeman1, ugh - it's been sitting on my Google Drive for a month now 01:55 Jordach havent had the incentive to do it until 10 mins ago 01:55 Jordach and im tired + i prefer doing it in word 01:56 Jordach which isnt on this laptop 01:56 Jordach the technical faq is called the dev.minetest.net 01:56 Jordach prefix http:// to it 01:56 Jordach and there you go 01:57 blakeman1 trying to join vanessa's server and its been stuck 2/3 for a while 01:58 Exio it will take a .. bit 01:58 Exio VanessaE's server contains a lot of stuff 01:59 Exio but it will be the first time, only 01:59 * NekoGloop wishes to know how to use this new damage system 01:59 Exio it is documented 02:00 Exio in the lua_api.txt and http://dev.minetest.net/Damage_system#New 02:00 blakeman1 you guys have a nice community on the forums 02:00 blakeman1 ever get spam a lot? 02:01 NekoGloop if it hasn't changed in half a year then yes 02:01 NekoGloop or, 1/4 02:01 Exio blakeman1: most of spam gets deleted very fast anyway 02:02 Jordach ffs 02:02 Jordach update to street 02:02 Jordach pass plaza* 02:02 Jordach im fucking off to bed now 02:03 blakeman1 bye 02:03 NekoGloop can't use wood as fuel what 02:04 blakeman1 where do i save my skin at? 02:04 NekoGloop er, wait, im just derping 02:05 blakeman1 ... 02:07 NekoGloop 2x2 microcontroller? That's a macrocontroller ;D 02:10 blakeman1 how long does it take to join vanessa's server? 02:10 * arsdragonfly is looking through the chat log 02:10 arsdragonfly IMHO it depends on your connection 02:10 blakeman1 ping or download speed? 02:11 arsdragonfly idk 02:11 blakeman1 46 ms 02:11 Exio i want those pings to everywhere 02:11 blakeman1 27 mbps 02:11 arsdragonfly WOW 02:12 arsdragonfly >200ms when I try to join any server 02:12 blakeman1 isp is comcastr 02:12 blakeman1 *comcast 02:13 blakeman1 the highest download ive ever gotten was like 42 mbps 02:13 arsdragonfly Seems ppl fail to communicate well here a few hours ago 02:13 * arsdragonfly never reached that speed :-( 02:13 blakeman1 Vanessa's server its taking really long 02:14 Exio blakeman1: MT is pretty slow when downloading with its own "protocol" 02:14 Exio if VanessaE didn't refuse to use a httpd for serving the cache.. :P 02:15 blakeman1 is "Could not load mesh, because file could not be opened: wield3d_character.x" ok? 02:17 blakeman1 Exio 02:17 Exio i guess? 02:17 Exio i never used the wield3d mod 02:18 blakeman1 do i need to install it? 02:18 Exio nope 02:18 Exio *all* the stuff gets downloaded from the server 02:18 ShadowNinja blakeman1: Yes, ignore that. 02:18 Exio even the default game are mods blakeman1 :P 02:18 blakeman1 her server takes a loooooooong time 02:19 blakeman1 is the "Advanced" tab for running your own server? 02:19 ShadowNinja Try mine. :-) 02:19 blakeman1 your server? 02:19 ShadowNinja blakeman1: It works for that. But if you want a dedicated server you don't use that. 02:20 blakeman1 dedicated means? 02:20 ShadowNinja blakeman1: See the serverlist. shadowninja.minetest.net 02:20 blakeman1 kk 02:20 ShadowNinja blakeman1: One that you will keep up. Not just while you are playing. 02:20 blakeman1 MT keeps crashing because of it not responding 02:21 blakeman1 ok 02:21 StarBlessed Ok... I think I have this Media Server sorted... 02:22 StarBlessed With Zip support too 02:22 blakeman1 now i cant play on a server 02:22 blakeman1 when it loads images, it flashes super fast 02:22 NekoGloop you turned off preload item visuals didnt you 02:23 blakeman1 i did one time but then i checked it again 02:24 blakeman1 should i send you my .conf 02:24 ShadowNinja blakeman1: Keep it off. 02:24 blakeman1 ok 02:24 ShadowNinja It can easily double the load time. 02:24 blakeman1 uh... shadow 02:25 blakeman1 i joined your server without a password... 02:25 blakeman1 what do i do? 02:25 ShadowNinja That shouldn't be allowed... 02:25 ShadowNinja Use an empty password? 02:25 ShadowNinja I can reset it if you like. 02:26 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: LuaVoxelManip: Fix minor bug with set_lighting, remove coordinate params for light and liquid updates 067888d549 2013-06-29T19:23:00-07:00 http://git.io/mzfSkw 02:26 blakeman1 W00T 02:26 StarBlessed Ok, so here we go. http://minetest.viewskew.com Username and password is : guest 02:26 ShadowNinja And change your password soon. 02:26 StarBlessed Cant upload as a guest, but let me know what you think of the interface etc 02:26 blakeman1 what is this? 02:26 Exio StarBlessed: is the main account "admin", and its password "admin"? ;P 02:27 Exio blakeman1: this = ? 02:27 StarBlessed LMAO! No Exio. You can try it though ;) 02:27 StarBlessed blakeman1: It doesnt apply to you. 02:28 blakeman1 D: 02:28 blakeman1 anyone editing? 02:29 StarBlessed What do you think Exio. Do you think it'll be sufficient? The path for the server conf is http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/ 02:29 Exio i'll check now 02:29 Exio was closing stuff 02:29 Exio Oh, Javascript is disabled! 02:29 Exio aww 02:30 StarBlessed lol 02:31 Exio where is the backdoor StarBlessed? 02:31 StarBlessed Im sitting on it :P 02:31 hacker lol 02:31 Exio hacker is the best i ever had 02:31 Exio s/best/best nick/ 02:31 NekoGloop Exio, so the number input for the damage system is the damage dealt? 02:32 StarBlessed Please dont attempt to break it... 02:32 StarBlessed I have to go edit the PHP to allow for larger file uploads. 02:32 NekoGloop yes? 02:32 StarBlessed Its only set to 8Mb for now 02:32 Exio StarBlessed: i can't even break my own system! :P 02:33 Exio NekoGloop: seems so? :D 02:33 Exio k, now night for realz 02:33 NekoGloop nou 02:33 NekoGloop stay here with us forever 02:33 * hacker bites NekoGloop 02:33 * NekoGloop is infected with the virus 02:34 hacker i hacked you! 02:34 hacker ;P 02:34 StarBlessed BRB 02:39 NekoGloop anyone feel like making mese/bronze/diamond versions of the two glooptest tools? :D 03:00 sokomine hmmmm: i tried to access/manipulate a 16x16x16 area with voxelmanipulator (just for testing). to my astonishment i got a 32x32x32 area 03:00 sokomine hmmmm: in effect, i did vm:read_from_map( {x=0,y=0,z=0},{x=16,y=16,z=16}) 03:02 hmmmm yup 03:02 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on hmmmm's head 03:03 hmmmm why does that matter, though? 03:03 * StarBlessed puts a pony on NekoGloop's head 03:03 * NekoGloop squish 03:03 sokomine it confuses me 03:03 sokomine is there a point in it? 03:03 sokomine shall i stick manually to a region of it? 03:04 hmmmm because that's just the way it works out 03:04 hmmmm yes, stick to your region that you requested 03:04 sokomine ok *climbing back in that 16x16x16 region* 03:05 StarBlessed Hey sokomine. Its great to see you using MediaGoblin. :D 03:05 sokomine is there any pattern to it? anything special to expect? hm, perhaps those return values from read_from_map have a meaning? 03:06 sokomine starblessed: thanks for it :-) it was a bit difficult to use in part - especially because it didn't show me the image immediately. but it worked out fine for the travelnet and the replacer mod. i didn't find the energy to do my cottages mod yet. that has a lot of images 03:06 hmmmm yeah, maybe they do have a meaning .. 03:07 sokomine starblessed: perhaps you ought to add a region for binary data? for those schems that will most likely soon be exchanged by people? they're a more compact format than worldedit export 03:07 hmmmm if you're not using the VoxelArea class to simplify data array indexing, you really ought to be 03:09 sokomine what i was trying for now was importing a very small minecraft classic map. the voxelmanipulator ought to be especially fine for that. for a start, i just translated the values 03:09 hmmmm https://github.com/kwolekr/mcconvert 03:11 sokomine does that write the mapfile directly? 03:11 hmmmm yup 03:12 sokomine sounds helpful 03:14 StarBlessed Thanks sokomine, I might look into it. 03:20 * blakeman1 slapped StarBlessed with a chicken strip 03:20 * StarBlessed doesnt care 03:20 * blakeman1 wanted to start a /me battle 03:20 * blakeman1 is sad :( 03:20 * NekoGloop places a kitten generator 03:21 ImFabuloisBiatch :3 03:21 ImFabuloisBiatch i got dat makeup 03:21 ImFabuloisBiatch and dat fashion 03:22 NekoGloop and dat ass 03:22 blakeman1 hmmm. Notch is registered 03:22 NekoGloop there's a #minecraft 03:22 NekoGloop of course it's registered 03:23 blakeman1 oh, yeah 03:23 blakeman1 how do i register? 03:23 NekoGloop magic 03:24 NekoGloop also it's stupid that we can't post non-derivative liscenced mods. 03:24 blakeman1 guys, how do i register? 03:24 * ShadowNinja disagrees. 03:24 ShadowNinja blakeman1: Same as on InchraNet. 03:25 blakeman1 forgot XP 03:25 NekoGloop Allow freedom of liscence, not enforcement of open-source 03:26 ShadowNinja blakeman1: /ns help register 03:26 kaeza NekoGloop, you can post -ND mods in the forum 03:26 kaeza you are free to do so 03:27 kaeza (it won't be moved to releases tho') 03:27 NekoGloop and then get hate from everyone because "lol forum rulez read dem" 03:27 NekoGloop Yes. And that's the stupid decision part. 03:27 blakeman1 hey jordan 03:27 jordan4ibanez Hello. 03:27 NekoGloop It could be the best freakin mod in all of minetest. But if it's closed source or noderivs, then you can't have it be a "released" mod. 03:29 NekoGloop hello jordan4ibanez. 03:29 jordan4ibanez Hi NekoGloop. 03:30 * NekoGloop gives jordan4ibanez a cookie 03:30 jordan4ibanez Thank you. 03:31 NekoGloop welcome =3 03:33 NekoGloop Is max_drop_level employed anywhere yet? 03:42 deasanta was max_drop_level prepeared to work for minimum wages? :) 03:42 NekoGloop I'm sure it would love to be put to work 03:42 ShadowNinja Heh. 03:43 deasanta question - anyone know how the new 3d player model is updated or needs to be updated when attaching the player to an entity such as a boat? 03:43 deasanta used to work with pilzadams boats but not with new default 03:43 deasanta player is not updated and stays behind 03:45 * NekoGloop muses to self: glooptest is updated and functioning totally, hopefully, in 0.4.7 03:45 ShadowNinja Good question to nudge PilzAdam with. 03:50 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on RealBadangel's head 03:50 RealBadangel hi NekoGloop 03:51 NekoGloop sup 03:52 RealBadangel nothin special, updating repositories now 03:52 NekoGloop cool 03:52 RealBadangel technic indev and master is now synced in technic_game 03:52 NekoGloop speaking of updating repos, glooptest tools deal damage in 0.4.7 now 03:53 kaeza hey RealBadangel 03:53 RealBadangel hi kaeza 03:54 kaeza how's it going? 03:54 NekoGloop https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest Meow 03:54 RealBadangel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game 03:54 RealBadangel kaeza, pretty much to do 03:55 * kaeza clones both 03:55 NekoGloop hehe 03:56 NekoGloop don't start using mine yet; I'm addin new worldgen soon 03:56 NekoGloop soon as in within the week 03:56 RealBadangel note that now technic now comes as a game, with all the mods needed to run 03:56 kaeza this is going to kill my bandwidth -.- 03:57 NekoGloop you can ignore mine for now; as i said, new worldgen soon, best to let it all generate the same 03:57 kaeza k 03:58 NekoGloop ehwot 03:58 NekoGloop I already have bronze tool texture wut 03:58 RealBadangel so, the creative mod is removed from here, also there will be lotsa changes to default mods 03:58 kaeza RealBadangel, it's interesting that the entire technic_game repo is way smaller than technic modpack alone 03:58 kaeza stupid git history 03:59 RealBadangel speaking of which, who knows wheres proper lava cooling code? 04:00 NekoGloop not that anyone was speaking of that 04:00 RealBadangel kaeza, i will provide also simple zip download from my server, so git will be used only by contributors 04:00 RealBadangel i know that theres somwhere better one than that by PA 04:00 kaeza it's better for me to use git 04:01 kaeza less to download in case of updates 04:01 kaeza BTW: 00:59:28: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "bucharest_tree.png" 04:01 RealBadangel ah yes, i have to remove it 04:01 RealBadangel i dont even know what that bucharest tree is 04:01 RealBadangel it came with cnc code 04:02 StarBlessed http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97314#p97314 04:03 kaeza StarBlessed, nice 04:03 StarBlessed I cant help much, but ill do what i can. 04:04 StarBlessed Been feelin a bit guilty for not getting back to the videos. 04:04 StarBlessed Ill get there though 04:05 RealBadangel kaeza, fixed 04:07 RealBadangel i can see sphax texture pack now supports technic, nice 04:14 * NekoGloop wonders if anyone ever used hammers to mine stone... 04:15 NekoGloop or even at all. 04:15 kaeza RealBadangel, pulled 04:18 Bolt473 How do I register 04:19 StarBlessed Register what Bolt473 ? 04:19 Bolt473 my nickname 04:19 StarBlessed On IRC? 04:19 StarBlessed You dont need to register for Minetest 04:19 StarBlessed Unless you want to post in the forums 04:20 Bolt473 nvm figured it our 04:20 Bolt473 *out 04:21 StarBlessed k 04:22 Bolt473 I wanted to register my IRC nickname 04:22 NekoGloop magic 04:23 NekoGloop also yay bronze, mese, and diamond support in glooptest 04:24 RealBadangel http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6412 04:24 NekoGloop moonflower? 04:25 NekoGloop :O 04:25 RealBadangel yup, by Taoki. it glows at night 04:25 NekoGloop huh, cool 04:25 RealBadangel and will be a source for glowing dye 04:25 NekoGloop does it visibly bloom as well? 04:25 RealBadangel and thus way to craft any glowing nodes 04:26 RealBadangel it opens at night and starts to glow 04:26 NekoGloop cool 04:27 RealBadangel she had pretty original idea 04:27 NekoGloop actually I've seen that before xD 04:28 NekoGloop https://github.com/ProjectZulu/Project-Zulu/wiki/Night-Bloom 04:35 RealBadangel way at least original in minetest :) 04:35 RealBadangel i mean something new 04:40 RealBadangel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game/commit/9a55a0e4d31041a5d78685253fb5dd4aa21e7fd4 04:41 RealBadangel at least :) 04:46 RealBadangel btw, kaeaza, try now wooden chests and regular furnace 04:47 RealBadangel but place on the ground new ones 04:56 kaeza what about them? 04:58 RealBadangel theyre using now UI's theme 04:59 StarBlessed Updated with a list of supported Mods : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97325#p97325 04:59 RealBadangel http://i.imgur.com/sgvm1QJ.jpg 05:00 RealBadangel StarBlessed, technic_master gonna merge indev changes in a few minutes 05:01 StarBlessed So re add it? 05:01 RealBadangel hold on for update 05:01 StarBlessed Ok 05:01 NekoGloop RealBadangel, do you have a menu setup? :O 05:02 StarBlessed Do you think thats enough support for now though? 05:02 StarBlessed The top mods in the "popular" section.. 05:02 kaeza RealBadangel, ah, nice 05:02 kaeza didn't notice that :P 05:03 NekoGloop StarBlessed, sure 05:03 kaeza so they are texturable? 05:03 RealBadangel i will make all the formspecs to be this style 05:06 RealBadangel technic_game definitely wont follow minimalism of minetest_game 05:07 NekoGloop So I'm assuming that if I wanna play with any other mods, I can't play with technic 05:07 RealBadangel why not? 05:08 NekoGloop because fuck how gamemodes and mods work 05:08 RealBadangel put the extra mods into game's folder and solved 05:09 RealBadangel no need to configure them even 05:13 RealBadangel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/commit/8e03d7ded6441b26e9d44102c0cd2ee39f9e90bc 05:13 RealBadangel technic_master is also synced now 05:14 StarBlessed Ok, thanks 05:16 NekoGloop I, for one, do not like the new way of installing mods. 05:16 RealBadangel NekoGloop, i dont think there are problems 05:17 RealBadangel http://i.imgur.com/QjwmLqM.jpg 05:17 NekoGloop Yes, but EVERY MOD IS DISABLED BY DEFAULT 05:17 NekoGloop and you have to enable every individual one per-world 05:18 RealBadangel yeah, some may not like it 05:18 RealBadangel solution for it is, as i said, putting the mods into game's folder 05:19 RealBadangel game's mods dont have to be configured at all 05:19 NekoGloop which is stupid 05:19 NekoGloop Just enable them by default, and let us disable individual ones. 05:20 RealBadangel you are propably right, that could be more comfortable 05:21 ShadowNinja ^ I agree. 05:22 Guest78396 hello! 05:22 * NekoGloop wonders if there's an on_rightclick for items yet, and if it works nicely 05:22 Guest78396 stupid guest 05:23 Guest78396 /nick blakeman1 05:24 blakeman1 test 05:24 blakeman1 there we go 05:48 VanessaE hi all. 05:48 blakeman1 wb VanessaE 05:49 VanessaE thanks 05:51 deasanta hi 05:51 ShadowNinja I fixed nick changing tracking with auto-sleep. Now I slezz... 05:51 blakeman1 hello 05:55 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Vanessa's head 05:55 * VanessaE pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile. 05:55 NekoGloop Paramat... How does this guy.... What... I don't even... *head explodes* 05:56 VanessaE yeah, he's THAT good. 06:05 NekoGloop also thaumtest :O 06:05 VanessaE no idea what that is 06:05 NekoGloop I do 06:05 NekoGloop Trust me, if he implements HALF of the stuff from the MC mod he's basing it off of, you guys'll all love him eternally... 06:06 NekoGloop it's a really cool mod 06:14 deasanta anyone here ever exorted a model from blender into minetest? i have an issue with 3ds but obj and x works fine. also any objections to using obj files for simple meshes? 06:15 kaeza deasanta, if it's your mod, it's up to you what to use 06:16 deasanta its supported by the engine but not sure if it works on a linux or mac yet 06:16 deasanta tmx kazea 06:16 kaeza np 06:30 kaeza "the answer is false (2+2x2 = 6 but ? has a value of 63 :-) )" <-- best troll answer 06:31 RealBadangel deasanta, compile irrlicht examples and use meshviewer example to test imported models 06:32 RealBadangel what will work in the example will also work in minetest 06:32 VanessaE kaeza: :D 06:32 deasanta thanks readbadangel 06:32 RealBadangel http://i.imgur.com/OapBLIO.jpg 06:33 deasanta i've tested using minetest client on win32 and its working fine with obj which is slightly smaler than 3ds and a well known format 06:33 deasanta lol 3d in voxel world 06:34 VanessaE deasanta: that dwarf is an Irrlicht standard model 06:34 VanessaE Minetest uses Irrlicht for its 3d system :) 06:35 RealBadangel in fact you can use any meshes in minetest 06:35 VanessaE RealBadangel: how goes the plans to make node meshes? 06:35 deasanta yeah saw that - tnx - only thing is 3ds export does not work? obj and x seems fine - https://github.com/deasanta/minetest-deasanta/tree/master/PilzAdam-boats 06:35 RealBadangel need to sort other things first 06:35 deasanta using blender 2.67a on win32 06:36 deasanta did the bone/armature/vertex names groups as per minetest wiki 06:36 deasanta but clients says unable to import :( 06:36 RealBadangel im using .x models only 06:37 deasanta size diff between obj and x - x is 10x bigger 06:37 RealBadangel who cares? 06:37 RealBadangel ram is cheap 06:38 deasanta for somereason minetest is fast over short distance connections - im in new zealand and on fibre and it is fast but i have issues connecting to european connections - american ones are not too bad 06:39 deasanta the way minetest loads these 20mb+ mods can take 2-3 minutes (if im lucky) but if it is in new zealand it willl only take a few seconds 06:40 VanessaE deasanta: this is a known issue that no one wants to bother to fix except to tell the server owners to set up third-party external web servers to host the mods' media files. 06:40 deasanta your stuff is hosted in the us isn't it ralbad? 06:40 VanessaE RealBadangel is in Poland. 06:40 deasanta srry was thinking of oldcoder 06:40 StarBlessed Working on it VanessaE 06:40 VanessaE StarBlessed: on what? 06:41 StarBlessed A global media host that houses all the most common mods : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6411 06:41 VanessaE oh right, I saw that 06:41 deasanta vanessae - i saw the conversation you had with pilzadam about it :) - can see your and his points on it. 06:44 deasanta tnx vanessae / readbadangel / kaeza 06:45 StarBlessed Ok RealBadangel - Updated with the latest media for technic-master 06:45 deasanta http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1389294/minetest/PilzAdam-boats-001.jpg 06:46 RealBadangel StarBlessed, ok, thx 06:46 StarBlessed Would you like an ID so you can just upload it yourself? It just overwrites your old content anyway 06:47 StarBlessed In the future I mean 06:47 VanessaE all my stuff's on github so keeping it in sync should be easy enough 06:48 StarBlessed Im not too good at writing scripts Vanessa, but that can come in the future. I'd have to write a clone for every different git. 06:48 VanessaE it's all those modders out there that just release their stuff as ZIP files that complicated things.. 06:49 VanessaE true 06:49 StarBlessed Its just as easy to download a zip, destructure it for the media files and upload a zip. It can be extracted once its uploaded via the web interface. 06:49 VanessaE the only other way to do it is to scrape the modding general and mod releases sections looking for downloadable files and do a mass extract-and-copy on everything you find 06:59 StarBlessed LOL! DownThemAll! 06:59 StarBlessed I'd have to setup a spider. 06:59 VanessaE yep. 07:00 VanessaE of course G*d knows how much of that will end up out-of-date :) 07:00 VanessaE (multiple links in a post, multiple forks, etc) 07:10 StarBlessed Well, there's 10Gb of space, so it wont matter too much if there is overage. 07:38 StarBlessed GOT IT! 07:39 StarBlessed I just wrote a script that will pull from every git I list! Then a second script will sort the media files and dump them in the Global folder! 07:39 StarBlessed w00t! 07:39 VanessaE nice 07:39 StarBlessed Cron job every 24 hours and it will constantly be up to date 07:39 StarBlessed Yay for bash! 07:51 StarBlessed Any suggestions for other mods to add? 07:57 deasanta starblesses is https://github.com/PilzAdam/signs in there? 07:58 VanessaE use homedecor's version :P 08:00 deasanta ah - see it - tnx vanessae 08:00 StarBlessed Hmmm... Well Heres a current list of added mods : http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/Temp/ 08:00 StarBlessed It includes a pull for your mods Vanessa 08:01 VanessaE cool :) 08:01 StarBlessed Ok, so the list includes ONLY those with git repos. 08:02 deasanta so if you use the media curl option then the engine will still send what is in the mods/../texture folders? so that you can mix curl and normal? 08:03 deasanta remaining textures i mean 08:08 StarBlessed Ok, all done :) 08:08 deasanta - can you include a optipng or crushpng on the folderin the bash script in case the last upload etc did not include that? 08:08 Calinou hi 08:08 VanessaE hi 08:09 StarBlessed deasanta: no. It is a compression optimizer. I have no interest in organizing that. Im only housing the media files for the mods. 08:11 StarBlessed The idea is to decrease login times for servers. The media files are direct copies from the git repo's. Im not going to alter them in any way. 08:11 deasanta k - thought it may help to keep sizes small and run at the end of the script after the downloads... 08:11 deasanta starblessed - tnx for hosting! 08:11 StarBlessed The files should be optimized before they're uploaded to the git anyway. 08:11 StarBlessed NP 08:11 StarBlessed Hey Calinou 08:12 deasanta yeah - if seens lots of mods with pngs in in that are not even used 08:12 Calinou newsflash: people still get excited about 6 year old hardware: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97316#p97316 08:13 StarBlessed Good on him. I game my son a 9 year old GP2X. He thinks its the best thing since I accidentally set fire to my face. 08:13 StarBlessed deasanta: thats up to the mod developer 08:14 deasanta yup - agreed - and some take care and some are sloppy :) 08:14 StarBlessed VanessaE: Ill check the file time stamps tomorrow to make sure they're updating daily. 08:14 savedgames Do you like servers which add music to the game? Do you see it as a feature to add music to the base game or is that up to the server hosters, what mods they want to enable? 08:14 VanessaE ok 08:14 StarBlessed perhaps deasanta. But it doesnt matter. 08:14 Calinou savedgames: I don't, at all 08:15 Calinou just like sound-playing websites 08:15 Calinou not to mention 90% of sounds provided by mods are way too loud 08:15 savedgames Calinou, then I guess you will give good feedback on if a sound is good or not :) 08:15 StarBlessed savedgames: I dont mind ambient sound, perhaps very subtle atmospheric music. But it has to be around 5 - 10% volume 08:16 Calinou very subtle ambience is fine 08:16 Calinou but it should be disableable 08:16 StarBlessed Agreed. 08:16 VanessaE Calinou: and many mods' sounds depend on a feature in the engine that's busted anyway (and thus the sounds are either too loud or too quiet) 08:16 StarBlessed Calinou: I added your git to the list as well 08:16 deasanta ambience is good - i think the game could come with a defaullt wich a hoster may want to add to or override... 08:18 StarBlessed Did I get all of yours VanessaE? 08:19 VanessaE link? 08:19 StarBlessed Oh, right. http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/Temp/ 08:21 VanessaE you missed coloredwood (https://github.com/VanessaE/coloredwood), plantlife (https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife), gloopblocks (https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks), and moretrees (https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees) 08:21 StarBlessed Ok. Do you want them all added? 08:21 VanessaE may as well, people do seem to use them 08:23 VanessaE ok, I need to get to bed. 08:23 VanessaE getting really tired now 08:24 VanessaE night all. 08:24 blakeman1 goodnight 08:24 StarBlessed Night 08:24 bas080 Hey people. I was checking the api doc and noticed.... 08:24 bas080 ----- Schematic-type parameters 08:24 bas080 is this for spawning nodes? 08:25 Calinou bas080: LuaVoxelManip was recently added 08:25 Calinou it allows spawning nodes quickly 08:26 StarBlessed VanessaE's mods are all done now 08:26 StarBlessed Calinou: are there any mods you'd like to see added? They have to be on git repos though 08:28 Calinou nah 08:28 svuorela urgh. bed mod is buggy. added it to my skyblock game and when I laid in my bed, I fell thru :/ 08:29 Calinou lol 08:29 StarBlessed lol 08:29 StarBlessed Ok. BBL 08:29 StarBlessed See ya folks 08:29 deasanta later 08:34 bas080 Calinou, thnx. I'll make sure to look into it. 09:21 Razoe Vanessa? 09:21 Razoe Its Razor 09:22 Jordach hello Taoki 09:22 Jordach :D 09:23 Taoki hi 09:27 Jordach when i read your post, it was gone midnight 09:32 Jordach hey StarBlessed 09:32 StarBlessed Bad Jordach. Naughty Jordach. Making me stop my gaming to come back to IRC :P 09:33 Jordach lol StarBlessed 09:33 StarBlessed Im happy to set you up a server if you wanna run a Minetest instance bro. You can build till your hearts content ;) 09:34 Jordach StarBlessed, hand me ssh and i do the rest 09:34 Jordach i've used it before 09:34 Jordach with host1free 09:34 StarBlessed Ok. Give me a few. 09:34 Jordach sure 09:34 Jordach i prefer debian 09:34 StarBlessed LOL! you'll get what youre given. :P 09:35 Jordach ikr 09:41 * Calinou gives Jordach a pony 09:50 * john_minetest gives Calinou an unicorn 09:53 Calinou *** john_minetest left (Ping timeout: 242 seconds) 09:55 BlockMen hi 09:55 Calinou hi 09:58 BlockMen Calinou, what do you think about this: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:BlockMen/ReworkedMain ? 09:58 BlockMen mainly the colors 10:00 * arsdragonfly got a new rig 10:00 arsdragonfly Dualc 10:00 Jordach Core* 10:00 arsdragonfly *dual core,7600gt 10:00 Jordach ninja'd 10:01 StarBlessed Hand me down? 10:03 arsdragonfly Anyone who can recommend a distro? 10:03 Jordach arsdragonfly, mint 10:03 Calinou arsdragonfly: lol 10:04 Calinou "new" rig? 10:04 Jordach or arch, if you're feeling skilled 10:04 Calinou 1) dual core is something 10 years old 2) a 7600GT is a 7 year old card 10:04 arsdragonfly Lol a second handed one 10:04 Calinou very second handed one 10:04 Jordach bullshit is intel duo core old 10:04 arsdragonfly Got it from my brother 10:04 Calinou arsdragonfly: how much did you buy it 10:04 Jordach it fits the pentium 4 socket 10:04 arsdragonfly 0$ 10:04 Jordach and p4's were made up until 2007 10:04 Calinou Jordach: aren't pentium 4s LGA478? 10:04 Jordach 775 10:05 Calinou then C2Ds were 775? 10:05 Calinou ah 10:05 StarBlessed both 10:05 Jordach Calinou, i found one the other day 10:05 StarBlessed P4's were both 478 and 755 10:05 Jordach but it was under 1.9ghz 10:05 StarBlessed 775 10:05 Jordach i want two cores above 2ghz 10:05 * StarBlessed has 6 cores at 3.2 GHz 10:06 Jordach full steam ahead 10:06 Calinou 1155 master race 10:06 Calinou inb4 2011 master race 10:06 StarBlessed AM3+ Awesomeness 10:06 Calinou oh 10:06 * arsdragonfly 's dual core are @1.6ghz 10:06 Jordach the two hardware titans, Calinou and StarBlessed battle it out 10:06 Calinou quad core with HT at 3.4ghz here :P 10:07 StarBlessed I have a netbook with those specs... 10:07 Calinou StarBlessed: few netbooks have dual core CPUs 10:07 Calinou most of the time, it's a single core, sadly 10:07 StarBlessed Calinou: It was a high end Sony. 10:07 Jordach Calinou, intel centrino here 10:07 StarBlessed 11 incher 10:08 Calinou Jordach: centrino isn't a CPU, it's intel wifi 10:09 Calinou but intel kept advertising it as if it was a CPU :P 10:09 Jordach oh, im intel core2 10:09 StarBlessed Centrino was an instruction set built into the CPU that was 'supposed' to increase the WiFi speed... 10:09 StarBlessed Sadly... it did the opposite. 10:10 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/cLrBG2d.png 10:10 StarBlessed slowing down the machine because of the badly written drivers/junk software from intel to make it work 10:10 Calinou most of intel's software is junk, fact :P 10:10 BlockMen is code from builtin executed same way like mods? 10:10 Calinou except their linux driver, which is simple, but works 10:11 StarBlessed Well... its Linux. 10:12 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/4Bf2VhA.jpg 10:12 StarBlessed Jordach: http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/my-desktop/ 10:13 Jordach StarBlessed, you've got a smaller hdd than me 10:13 arsdragonfly Jordach :what's the difference between mate and cinemanon? 10:13 StarBlessed Mine is an SSD 10:13 StarBlessed OCZ Vertex 4 10:13 arsdragonfly *cinnamon 10:13 Calinou lol, OCZ :P 10:14 Jordach one looks better 10:14 StarBlessed Mate is a fork of Gnome2. Cinnamon is a rewrite of Gnome3 to make it more simplistic and easier to use for a Gnome/XFCE user. 10:14 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/5813442/ 10:15 Calinou "Display Driver: vesa 2.3.2" :D 10:15 StarBlessed dont make me pull out the big guns... 10:15 StarBlessed LOL 10:15 StarBlessed Question... Is this the geek equivalent of who has the bigger V8? Like Dick measuring? 10:15 * Calinou is now in trackmania top 3000 10:15 Calinou 2989th 10:16 Calinou StarBlessed: well, yeah 10:16 StarBlessed LOL! ok. I give up. Im better with Yo Momma lines. 10:18 Jordach your mother was a trash compactor 10:18 StarBlessed Alright, lets get off my momma, coz I just got off yours. 10:18 Jordach lolololol 10:20 StarBlessed Yo mama so stupid she thinks taco bell is a mexican phone company 10:20 StarBlessed Yo Mama so fat her body mass index is measured in acres. 10:21 StarBlessed Yo Mama's so nasty, I talked to her over the computer and she gave me a virus. 10:21 Jordach lol 10:21 Calinou yo mama tells you to stop making yo mama jokes 10:21 Jordach lol 10:21 StarBlessed Told you I was better at Yo momma lines 10:21 * Calinou slaps StarBlessed using a "Increasing your wifi range using a unicorn - A practical guide" book 10:22 StarBlessed :P 10:22 * StarBlessed wont bow to a /me war 10:23 StarBlessed Calinou is just jealous of my "Yo Momma" skillz 10:27 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97343#p97343 <= huh? 10:28 Calinou I don't feel like making a MC4MT pack, but that's just me 10:28 Jordach Calinou, i abandoned it a while back 10:33 StarBlessed Ok, thats me folks. See ya later arsdragonfly; Calinou & Jordach :) 10:33 StarBlessed Bye everyone else! 10:33 deasanta later - thanks again 10:33 StarBlessed NP 10:33 StarBlessed :D 11:07 Jordach Taoki, screenshots you lazy pony 11:12 Taoki Jordach: Finishing up o the sky colors, to add that purple / orange tint. I should be all ready until tonight 11:12 Taoki BBL 11:13 * john_minetest has 142 unsorted and 12 sorted page (total 154!!!) bookmarks in firefox... 11:13 Jordach john_minetest, i sorted all 400+ bookmarks in an hour. your turn. 11:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:17 BlockMen hi 11:17 deasanta hi 11:19 svuorela PilzAdam: you're behind the beds, right ? 11:19 deasanta pilzadam - i have a boat model for your boats mod but have a few questions about adding more boats - http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97330#p97330 11:24 deasanta anyone working on larger moving entites ? - http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1389294/minetest/testcaravel-low-quality-6mb-video.mp4 11:28 PilzAdam svuorela, wut? 11:29 PilzAdam deasanta, Ill test that model later 11:30 deasanta model - blender - made to look like blocks 11:30 svuorela PilzAdam: are you involved the in the beds mod ? 11:30 PilzAdam yes 11:31 deasanta tnx - the issue i have is i think the new defalut/player 's position isn't updating when viewed from another player's screen 11:31 deasanta the 3d player that is 11:31 svuorela PilzAdam: I think I has found a bug. When I lie in my bed in my skyblock setup (with floor 1 block thick) I fall thru the floor when going to sleep 11:31 PilzAdam yea, that happens sometimes 11:33 deasanta better than falling from a skyblock :)) 11:52 svuorela woopsie. half my area burned. lava close to wood is a bad idea. 11:53 Calinou john_minetest: but today's ISPs are pushing TV through internet, so you need to bring your wifi-unicorn with you 12:11 * arsdragonfly is having a fucking hard time installing linux mint 12:12 arsdragonfly seems it cannot boot from a usb disk no matter how I tune the bios 12:12 arsdragonfly so I plugged my old hard disk -> boot with grub2 12:14 Calinou lol, can't even boot from USB 12:14 Calinou it's 2013 :P 12:18 arsdragonfly believe it or not, my older rig could :-P 12:18 Calinou then it was more recent 12:19 arsdragonfly it wasn't 12:25 Calinou it had a better mobo then 12:33 Exio arsdragonfly: i used plop for those cases 12:34 Exio Calinou: the old mobo of my first desktop (2001 or 2003, i don't recall) wasn't able to boot from an usb key, but had options for that 12:34 arsdragonfly Exio :what's that? 12:35 Exio arsdragonfly: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html 12:35 Exio USB boot without BIOS support (UHCI, OHCI and EHCI) 12:35 Exio CD/DVD boot without BIOS support (IDE) 12:36 Exio it is a like a "second-bios" :P 12:38 arsdragonfly oh ok 12:39 kaeza mornings 12:48 Calinou hi 12:50 kaeza Calinou, is there an option in moreblocks to disable facedir? 12:50 kaeza (for full blocks) 12:58 Zeg9 Hello ! 13:10 Calinou kaeza: wood_facedir = false 13:10 Calinou in mods/moreblocks/_config.txt 13:11 kaeza Calinou, ah thanks 13:11 * john_minetest is watching Scrubs S06E06 for the thousandst time 13:11 Calinou s/scrubs/MLP 13:12 kaeza sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unterminated `s' command 13:13 Calinou kaeza is the guy who tells people to finish their seds in our screwed up family 13:16 RealBadangel i made quite a few commits to technic today 13:17 RealBadangel there are already quite a few machines with new formspecs 13:20 kaeza is the forcefield functional? 13:21 * Calinou never used net booting 13:21 Calinou just USB drives, and a CD once 13:22 Calinou depends, CD-RW is rewritable 13:22 iqualfragile pxe is wonderfull if you have to install lots of machines 13:22 Calinou my current desktop does not have a SD card reader or a DVD drive :P 13:22 Calinou but I have like 10 USB ports :P 13:23 iqualfragile usualy computers without usb-booting have cd drives 13:23 iqualfragile then you can just use plop 13:26 iqualfragile you can boot anything with plop, just burn it once 13:26 harrison plop plop fizz fizz 13:27 Calinou Exio begs to differ 13:31 iqualfragile i have used the mayday tileset untill now, trying out ironhand right now 13:31 iqualfragile what you you usualy use? 13:32 Exio [10:21:47] CD is stupid because it is not rewritable like a USB stick. 13:32 Exio i always had a CD with plop + my usb key :P 13:33 Exio if the bios supports usb boot, i used it, if not, i booted it with plop and started the second distro, or a light DE/WM (lxde or openbox) on it 13:34 Ripper003 Hi everyone, how do I install minetest on a mac? 13:34 Exio when i'm installing, i normally don't have network or so :P 13:34 PilzAdam Ripper003, AFAIK there is no updated mac port 13:35 Ripper003 PilzAdam: Oh it has to be ported? Well damn...if there was an easy way to compile the source code into an installable DMG I'd happily do it. 13:35 Exio mainly because none of the core devs is rich 13:36 Ripper003 Exio: I hardly call myself rich, I gots a mac mini with edu discount :P 13:36 Exio how much was it? 13:36 Ripper003 £496.80 13:36 iqualfragile Ripper003: there is a port, but is reeeealy outdated 13:36 PilzAdam thats like 2 PS4s 13:37 Ripper003 PilzAdam: True, but you can't play Minetest on a PS4 :P 13:37 iqualfragile it might be better to just install linux on it 13:37 iqualfragile you can! 13:37 iqualfragile it runns freebsd 13:37 Exio isn't the PS4 the one with the amd cores? 13:37 iqualfragile & minetest runs on freebnsd 13:37 Ripper003 iqualfragile: Yes I've tried before, wifi card is a bitch though 13:37 iqualfragile bootcamp? 13:37 Ripper003 No windows disc 13:37 iqualfragile or however they call it 13:38 iqualfragile cant you use it to start linux? 13:38 Ripper003 Not anymore 13:38 PilzAdam is there anything like wine on mac? 13:38 Exio someone said mt in a vm worked pretty well 13:38 Exio PilzAdam: wine? 13:38 Ripper003 Nah I'd rather it was native, possibly be screen recording 13:38 Ripper003 I can give wine a shot though 13:39 Exio it is sad, but you will end faster trying to port the newest :P 13:39 Exio (than searching a working one) 13:40 Ripper003 Hmmm...well I know nothing of coding 13:43 Ripper003 apparently it can be built 13:44 Lyrositor There is something like Wine on Mac, I think it's called Wineskin. 13:44 Ripper003 Nah I'd rather build it 13:45 Ripper003 because then I can try and delivery an installable dmg, good place to learn I reckon 13:45 iqualfragile there is something like wine on mac, its called wine 13:47 Ripper003 get a program to run a program, makes perfect sense 13:48 PilzAdam Ripper003, yea, its called "Java" :-p 13:48 Ripper003 True dat 13:48 Ripper003 Well, Java is the language 13:48 Lyrositor Java often refers to the JVM too. 13:50 Ripper003 Also true dat, but at heart Java is the language and the JVM just allows it to be read 13:51 Ripper003 Just double checking, is this the full game as source? https://github.com/toabi/minetest 13:51 Lyrositor I think http://github.com/minetest/minetest if the official repo. 13:51 Exio the official source is at http://github.com/minetest/minetest 13:51 PilzAdam Ripper003, yea, but its horribly outdated 13:52 Ripper003 Aaaaah I see, ok then 13:52 Exio ( http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game is the "official game") 13:52 Ripper003 Wtf there's like 3 different repos? 13:52 Lyrositor Each serves different purposes. 13:52 Ripper003 which is the repo for the current 0.4.7 release then? 13:52 Lyrositor minetest is the one you build. 13:53 iqualfragile all of them! 13:53 PilzAdam minetest/minetest is the engine, minetest/minetest_game is the game (Lua) and taobi/minetest is the mac port of the engine 13:53 iqualfragile actualy you can compile java to native code if you wish to 13:53 PilzAdam there are 0.4.4 stable ports for mac in the forums somwhere 13:54 Ripper003 I don't believe minetest_game is the full thing there's only like...two folders... 13:55 PilzAdam minetest is a engine, that allows games to define stuff via a Lua API 13:55 Exio Ripper003: the 'game content' is just a lot of lines and textures 13:55 Exio lines in lua :P 13:55 PilzAdam minetest_game basically consists of "minetest.register_node()" calls 13:56 Ripper003 riiiight 13:56 Ripper003 totally with you on that 13:58 arsdragonfly omfg the installation program crashed :-( 13:59 Ripper003 going to run cmake -G Xcode using the master directory and see what happens 13:59 NekoGloop meow 13:59 Ripper003 command not found, loooovely 14:01 Exio if you don't have cmake, i guess you don't even have irrlicht, lua, etc 14:01 Ripper003 nopeses 14:01 Exio so, install all the dependencies first, and then try :P 14:02 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Exio's head 14:02 Ripper003 blargh 14:02 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head. 14:02 Ripper003 gimme a list of dependencies from somewhere? 14:02 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 14:03 kaeza Ripper003, readme 14:03 Ripper003 very helpful for OSX 14:04 Ripper003 now I see why there isn't a current OS X port <.< 14:06 NekoGloop yep 14:06 Ripper003 I'd love to help y'all out, but this is too deep for me 14:09 Exio Ripper003: the problem is, there isn't any core-dev (or active-dev, or whatever) compiling and using MT on mac os x 14:09 Ripper003 no use whining to me about it, I don't work for Apple :P 14:10 Zeg9 Q: are after_destruct and on_destruct supposed to work? 14:13 NekoGloop A: Probably 14:15 Lyrositor There exists a package manager for OS X, but I forget the name. 14:16 Lyrositor Ah, yes, Homebrew. If it's anything like Linux, you should be able to install those packages easily. 14:18 NekoGloop Q: Does anyone even use the two glooptest tools? 14:31 RealBadangel http://i.imgur.com/7p6uMuc.png 14:31 RealBadangel new look of silver chest and new way of changing chest's infotext 14:31 xrosnight hello guys 14:32 RealBadangel hi 14:32 xrosnight how to register minetest 14:32 xrosnight hey RealBadangel 14:32 RealBadangel xrosnight, you dont have to register anything 14:32 xrosnight hello john_minetest how's everything going on :) 14:32 RealBadangel game is opensource and free 14:33 xrosnight okay. does the game store profile? 14:34 xrosnight okay thx john_minetest i am liking it 14:34 xrosnight that's good. i got 50 fps 14:34 xrosnight how is that 14:41 xrosnight john_minetest: thats good . good job :) 14:41 xrosnight which server has most of the players? 14:43 Calinou xrosnight: see erver list 14:43 NekoGloop one of them 14:43 Calinou you need cURL to see it 14:43 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Calinou's head 14:43 Calinou if no server has players, then all of them, NekoGloop 14:43 * Calinou puts a pony on NekoGloop's head 14:43 * NekoGloop is squished 14:43 * john_minetest puts an unicorn on NekoGloop's head 14:43 Calinou wifi unicorn* 14:44 NekoGloop is that what the horn is for? 14:44 Calinou well, yeah 14:44 Calinou "Increasing your wifi range with a unicorn - A practical guide" 14:44 Calinou john_minetest: a unicorn, not an unicorn 14:45 NekoGloop Calinou, If a word starts with a vowel sound, then "an" is proper. 14:45 Zeg9 NekoGloop: register_ore: clust_scarcity and clust_num_oresmust be greater than 0 << I got this error in glooptest 14:45 NekoGloop I know 14:46 Calinou a unicorn, a university, an utter crap 14:46 NekoGloop I do play with my own mod 14:46 Calinou utter = uh-tter 14:46 Calinou unicorn = you-nicorn 14:46 Zeg9 It could have been a problem on my side 14:46 NekoGloop ;) 14:46 NekoGloop I am in the process of figuring out which ore is causing it 14:47 Zeg9 I tried to find it too, found nothing (didn't look as deep as I would do with my own mod though) 14:47 NekoGloop hehe 14:47 NekoGloop Yes I made my own function for registering everything about an ore 14:47 NekoGloop ;) 14:49 Zeg9 something like that should be done in minetest_game. There would be less copy-pasta of tools recipes and all. 14:49 NekoGloop also why do you say that about how "deep" it is? 14:49 NekoGloop isn't it deep enough as-is? :O 14:50 Zeg9 I mean that I just searched for chunk_size = 0 and a few like that 14:52 NekoGloop hrm 14:54 NekoGloop that is a good question, which ore is causing it... 14:58 Zeg9 NekoGloop: found out, it's desert coal 14:58 NekoGloop Oh, right 14:59 NekoGloop it's still using the division format 15:11 alex____ how to tide over night in minetest??? 15:15 NekoGloop magic 15:21 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/jAZguBY.png new-style akalin block~ 15:27 Calinou alex____: /time 6000 15:30 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/3BEQWWn.png alatro, new-styled! 15:36 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on neko259's hea 15:36 NekoGloop head* 15:37 neko259 Purr! 15:37 NekoGloop hehe 15:37 * john_minetest has put all his kittens on heads of people in this channel. Now he hasn't got any kittens anymore. Except the one on the head. 15:37 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97409#p97409 15:38 PilzAdam have you ever wondered why math is useless? ^ 15:40 arsdragonfly lolz 15:40 Zeg9 NekoGloop: looks nice 15:40 arsdragonfly a=b so /(a-b) is invalid 15:40 arsdragonfly divided by zero 15:40 NekoGloop Zeg9, see github glooptest 15:41 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, let the others their fun trying to solve it ;-) 15:41 arsdragonfly k :-P 15:57 * NekoGloop wonders if a random number of dropped items is possible... 16:03 kaeza to anyone interested: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban/commit/f4825a613e2c32523a4d46c16685e4d65f2fe9ac 16:05 kaeza (probably should be fixed in core, too lazy) 16:06 NekoGloop Kalite Ore now drops More! :D 16:22 Kacey i see rba got internet back 16:23 Kacey and NekoGloop came back 16:25 Kacey right after i fixed the damn kitten generator to run on bones 16:26 kaeza bbiab 16:28 NekoGloop Kacey, Kalite Ore Drops More! 16:28 Kacey there are plenty of bones 16:29 Kacey too many in fact 16:29 NekoGloop No seriously, kalite drops 2~4 kalite lumps now 16:31 Kacey aah 16:32 Kacey well i never really played with that mod (i cant seem to remember the name) 16:32 NekoGloop Arol also seems to be rarer than mese, or I'm just unlucky 16:32 NekoGloop Glooptest? :P 16:32 Kacey aah i thought so lol 16:33 Kacey hey can you help me with one of my mods that died a while back? it had potential 16:33 NekoGloop which one 16:33 NekoGloop a lot of your mods died 16:33 Kacey it is called xytest 16:34 Kacey you know xycraft? 16:34 NekoGloop s/xycraft/xylag/ 16:34 NekoGloop yes I know the mod 16:34 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest 16:34 * Jordach pets NekoGloop like old times 16:35 Kacey it is a bit different, but it had potential 16:35 * NekoGloop purrs 16:37 Calinou "Bon appetit." 16:37 Calinou appétit* 16:37 * Calinou is a native french speaker 16:37 Calinou fear my baguette! 16:37 Jordach é* 16:38 NekoGloop Hm... Arol has an astronomical amount of uses when made into a tool (10x diamond lol), so maybe being rarer than mese is good 16:38 PilzAdam john_minetest, nom nom nom 16:39 PilzAdam how dare you! 16:39 * PilzAdam has 15 16:39 Jordach btw, i have been granted a server for minetest on the viewskew vps 16:39 NekoGloop 7 out of 100? ;) 16:39 PilzAdam out of 15 16:39 Kacey E does not equal mc²!!!!!!!!! i have disproved it 28 times! 16:40 NekoGloop Kacey, E = lowest grade possible, mc = minecraft 16:40 NekoGloop ;) 16:40 Kacey lol 16:40 Kacey the pc version of minecraft that is 16:40 Jordach minecraft*minecraft = minetest 16:40 PilzAdam john_minetest, but at school we always calculated without relativity, even with electrons that moved almost at the speed of light 16:41 Kacey because until we can play minetest on xbox, mc has us beat there 16:41 NekoGloop I'm pretty sure it's possible 16:41 NekoGloop Nobody wants to do that much work though 16:44 VanessaE hi all. 16:45 Calinou hi 16:45 Calinou john_mt|afk: away nicks kill 16:46 Jordach apparently: it usually takes 2-3 months for each new minetest version 16:46 ShadowNinja /kill *AFK* AFK nick! 16:47 Calinou Jordach: depends 16:49 Jordach Calinou, point me to moreblocks 16:51 Jordach mod suggestions for a sevrer 16:51 Jordach server* 16:51 Jordach (i've got moreblocks, simple mobs, carts...) 16:52 Jordach VanessaE, what's the easiest know area protection mod 16:52 Jordach sokomine, ^ 16:52 Kacey hey does anyone know the new oregen code really well? 16:53 Calinou Kacey: why? 16:53 Calinou also, it's not that new :P 16:54 Calinou because until we can play minetest on xbox, mc has us beat there => it's your problem for buying 6 year old locked hardware 16:54 Kacey i want to make an ore that is rarer than diamonds, but spawns in a huge vein when you find some 16:54 Calinou not that hard 16:54 VanessaE Jordach: easiest to use is probably glomie's "protection" mod. Most powerful is node_ownership. Best is my fork thereof, at least until ShadowNinja releases his protector mod. 16:55 Jordach VanessaE, how does yours work? 16:55 Kacey Calinou, my xbox is nearly 10, so yeah... 16:55 PilzAdam Kacey, just copy the register_ore() call of diamonds, increase rarity, clust_size and clust_num_ores 16:55 VanessaE Jordach: same as the upstream version. /set_owner foo x1,y1,z1 x2,y2,z2 16:55 Exio locked hardware is lame 16:55 Jordach VanessaE, point me the git link then 16:56 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/node_ownership-20130123.zip 16:57 Jordach i love wget 16:58 Jordach forgot to install apt-get file-roller lol 16:59 * Calinou uses wget like once per year 17:01 Exio aria2c is better for big downloads, true 17:01 Calinou chromium* 17:02 Exio the webbrowser? why? 17:03 Calinou because! 17:04 ShadowNinja VanessaE: If you want to test: http://shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tar.gz 17:05 Jordach quick question: i want to just build the server on linux 17:06 PilzAdam Jordach, http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Building_without_Irrlicht.2FX_dependency 17:06 Calinou tip: irrlicht is not required for server 17:06 PilzAdam Calinou, it is 17:06 PilzAdam at least the headers 17:07 Calinou oh 17:07 Jordach ouch viewskew vps is quick 17:08 Jordach 501mb/s for github downloads 17:08 Calinou inb4 Jordach uses it to DDoS 17:08 Jordach HOLY SHIT 17:08 Jordach 50% built in 20 seconds 17:08 sfan5 hello 17:09 kaeza world 17:09 Jordach ** 17:09 sfan5 :/ 17:09 PilzAdam ); 17:09 Exio [14:08:51] 50% built in 20 seconds 17:09 PilzAdam +" 17:09 Exio make -jx? 17:09 Jordach make -j4 17:09 Exio compiling the server only is very fast yes 17:10 Jordach it took 32 bit debian 6 and entire minute 17:10 Calinou >2013 17:10 Calinou >32 bit debian 6 17:10 Calinou Jordach: that's faster than me 17:10 NekoGloop >2013 17:10 NekoGloop >32 bit 17:10 Calinou I take about 1 minute to compile minetest with all my cores 17:11 Calinou oh, you're compiling server only 17:11 Exio Calinou: he is compiling the server only 17:11 Exio ew 17:14 Calinou why "ew" 17:16 NekoGloop away is now uber-away 17:18 Exio Calinou: because i saw the backlog after i pressed enter 17:22 * NekoGloop forgets how to detect a mod from within lua... 17:22 VanessaE either check the type of one of its functions (to see if it actually IS a function) or try to use the get-modpath function on it.; 17:22 Calinou NekoGloop: minetest.get_moddir() 17:22 ShadowNinja NekoGloop: if minetest.get_modpath(mod) 17:22 Calinou oops 17:22 Calinou dofile(minetest.get_modpath("intllib").."/intllib.lua") 17:23 VanessaE what ShadowNinja said. 17:23 Calinou this: if (minetest.get_modpath("intllib")) then 17:23 NekoGloop ohi V 17:23 Calinou checks for mod "intllib" 17:23 VanessaE hi 17:23 VanessaE be sure you make the mod in question an opt depend 17:27 NekoGloop https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks/pull/1 17:27 PilzAdam lol "== true" 17:27 NekoGloop ? 17:27 PilzAdam thats redundant 17:28 NekoGloop ? 17:28 PilzAdam ! 17:28 NekoGloop . 17:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: mind squashing them? 17:28 PilzAdam ¿ 17:28 VanessaE … 17:28 NekoGloop VanessaE, why?! :D 17:28 PilzAdam ¡ 17:28 Calinou aw, PilzAdam ninja'd me 17:28 Calinou .⋅. 17:28 VanessaE ¨ 17:29 NekoGloop ~ 17:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: pweeze? :) 17:29 NekoGloop VanessaE, I was using github's editor, not sure if there's an easy way to do that 17:30 VanessaE no worries, I'll deal with it 17:31 NekoGloop main part of that is to allow tools to 100% function in 0.4.7 17:31 VanessaE right 17:31 NekoGloop second main part is evil sticks are craftable with gold ingots in place of kalite lumps without glooptest 17:32 NekoGloop Uses for gold? Yes. Promoting glooptest via allowing cheaper recipes? Yes. 17:32 NekoGloop ;) 17:33 NekoGloop esp. with how kalite is now; it drops 2~4 lumps 17:35 VanessaE NekoGloop: merged. 17:35 NekoGloop hehe 17:35 lamefun https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/797 17:36 lamefun can someone bring some more light on this :(? 17:36 lamefun unplayable 17:36 lamefun completely 17:36 NekoGloop not having the problem 17:36 NekoGloop also haven't played on a server in the last 3 months 17:36 PilzAdam lamefun, the admin is wrong 17:36 VanessaE lamefun: happens to everyone, to varying degrees 17:36 lamefun PilzAdam, why? 17:37 kaeza lamefun, get a better connection 17:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: I've had that happen occasionally even with anti-cheat disabled. 17:37 PilzAdam its definitely better with disable_anticheat 17:37 NekoGloop I've only had it occasionally happen with anticheat enabled >.> 17:37 lamefun Orby (Wazuland) said he tried 17:39 lamefun Does anyone know exactly why does this happen? 17:39 NekoGloop VanessaE, update your server with gloopblocks + glooptest ;) 17:39 PilzAdam lamefun, it happens because of lag between the server and the client; but anticheat definitely makes it worse 17:39 lamefun PilzAdam, exactly why does lag lead to this? 17:40 lamefun Aren't commands sent as reliable packets? 17:40 hmmmm hmmmm 17:40 hmmmm who wants mushrooms in caves? 17:40 lamefun I do 17:40 NekoGloop me 17:40 VanessaE lamefun: UDP isn't particularly reliable 17:40 PilzAdam it only happens if you have massive lag, with anticheat enabled even a bit lag is enough 17:41 NekoGloop get a better interwebs 17:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: can't restart the server right now, there are people on :) 17:43 NekoGloop egads 17:43 lamefun PilzAdam, why should lag be a problem? 17:43 lamefun commands aren't delayed 17:43 lamefun they are lost 17:43 NekoGloop glomie's server doesn't have animated kalite torches 17:44 PilzAdam if you wait long enough then the server gets your command 17:44 PilzAdam but until then you will see the node reapppearing 17:45 PilzAdam john_minetest, the client decides whether it outputs something 17:45 PilzAdam if you configure it right then /away wont output anything 17:45 svuorela I have the impression that grown wheat gives often 0 or 1 seeds. and sometimes 2. but not at all as often as it gives 0, basically making a wheat farm a dead end without seeds from the outside 17:46 Jordach VanessaE, pastebin your script to restart your server 17:46 PilzAdam svuorela, nope, full grown wheat gives at least 1 seed every single time 17:46 Calinou it does not, john_minetest 17:46 svuorela PilzAdam: hmmm... then why do I see what I see ? 17:46 PilzAdam maybe its not full grown 17:47 VanessaE Jordach: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5814573/ 17:47 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/c3xlygB.jpg retro akalin textures lol 17:48 svuorela I guess I should study wheat more closely. 17:49 lamefun PilzAdam, waited 10 minutes, used up 2 picks, the blocks that re-appeared didn't disappear again 17:49 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you use my windows builds 17:49 VanessaE john_minetest: most clients set the 'away' flag, which shows up in other clients. 17:49 NekoGloop PilzAdam, I use whoever has the latest build 17:49 PilzAdam lamefun, then its the anticheat protection, turn the off then you have the lag only 17:50 Jordach VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/Nao8CDI.png 17:50 NekoGloop which as of yesterday at approx. 9 pm EST, your build was latest 17:50 VanessaE NekoGloop: your copy of flowers_plus is out of date too :) 17:50 NekoGloop s/my/glomie's/ 17:50 lamefun PilzAdam, what does that protection do? 17:50 NekoGloop or, s/your/glomie's/ 17:51 VanessaE Jordach: you should include a log path also at least 17:51 Jordach i dont use logfiles 17:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: glomie? didn't know he had a fork of flowers. 17:51 NekoGloop his server 17:51 VanessaE oh ok 17:51 VanessaE well his copy is out of date then :P 17:51 NekoGloop he has outdated everything 17:53 * sokomine picks up some flowers and plants them in a garden 17:54 VanessaE maybe I'll do the seeds thing at some point. 17:54 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://ix.io/6qS I little more advanced. 17:55 ShadowNinja Jordach: ^ 17:55 Jordach meh 17:56 ShadowNinja However it requires psutil. 17:58 VanessaE ShadowNinja: wow 17:58 ShadowNinja Oh, and backup shutdown notices require external_cmd(possibly my version, but the stock one should work) 17:58 Taoki Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97450#p97450 17:59 VanessaE SCREENSHOTS!!!!!! 17:59 PilzAdam lamefun, it checks several things, one if it is if the player is inside the digging range of the node he wants to destroy; when the lag between server and client is too high, then the position of the player on the server is not up-to date with the position of the player on the client 17:59 VanessaE beautiful, Taoki ! 17:59 Taoki Thanks :) 17:59 Taoki PilzAdam: ^ I hope there are no objections to the looks :) 17:59 NekoGloop Ohgodyes 17:59 PilzAdam lamefun, so the range checks says "nope", although the client thinks hes in the range 17:59 VanessaE Taoki: MERGE THAT. NOW! 18:00 Taoki I'll give it a few more tests, see if there's anything I forgot, and do the pull request 18:00 Taoki VanessaE: Tell that to the developers I might potentially have to beg in case something in the code isn't right :P 18:00 Jordach Taoki, the intensity of fog is too much 18:01 Calinou looks good now 18:01 Taoki Jordach: It's darker now, some screenshots were taken before the brightness correction 18:01 Calinou Jordach: that's his view distance 18:01 Calinou *cough*fglrx*cough* 18:01 NekoGloop that too 18:01 VanessaE Taoki: I would suggest one last thing: gradient above the foggy horizon 18:01 VanessaE from "current color" to transparent 18:01 VanessaE (to get rid of the sharp edge) 18:01 Taoki VanessaE: Would be nice but harder and more complicated to do. Some other time 18:01 VanessaE ok 18:02 NekoGloop you could do a check based on the player's y value 18:03 NekoGloop then render everything above that with uncolored fog 18:03 NekoGloop perhaps 18:03 NekoGloop might not look great but might look slightly better 18:05 PilzAdam Taoki, dont make the effect too heacy 18:05 PilzAdam *heavy 18:05 NekoGloop PilzAdam, he's on like nothing for render distance it seems 18:05 NekoGloop do a screen with a reasonable render distance too 18:05 Taoki PilzAdam: I want to make it intense enough, otherwise it won't meet the purpose of beautiful environments 18:05 Jordach PilzAdam, 18:05 Jordach Taoki, the intensity of fog is too much 18:05 Taoki Jordach: Tried with the latest code? 18:06 Jordach nope 18:06 NekoGloop Taoki, do a screen with more than 5 render distance please 18:06 PilzAdam Taoki, its a minor graphical improvement, and not a super-mega 18:06 PilzAdam *-uber feature in the players face 18:06 Taoki NekoGloop: Working on it 18:07 Taoki PilzAdam: I'm focusing more on the purpose and final looks, minor or not. But I'll see if I can reduce the blending and still have it look good 18:07 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eBJLd6w.png 18:07 RealBadangel http://i.imgur.com/kCYksWw.png 18:08 NekoGloop except it's a free game... 18:08 Taoki LOL, you were fast at that RBA :D 18:08 RealBadangel gold chest almost ready, together infotext edit and color picker 18:08 NekoGloop Is that a blaze rod I see there, RBA? ;) 18:08 Taoki PilzAdam: Problem is that tne vivid intensity of fog is exactly what makes it beautiful. If I remove that it will look uglier and be less than what it's intended 18:09 Jordach VanessaE, this look good for a minetest.conf: http://i.imgur.com/oVcm6Dt.png 18:09 NekoGloop Taoki, show us what it looks like with a sane render distance plox 18:09 VanessaE Taoki: can you make it configurable in minetest.conf ? 18:09 Taoki Posting new images now... 18:09 VanessaE Jordach: announce=0? why? 18:10 Jordach does it show on the server list by default 18:10 VanessaE nope. 18:10 Jordach then what line would it be 18:10 VanessaE you have to announce. 18:10 VanessaE =1 18:10 VanessaE duh ;) 18:10 RealBadangel NekoGloop, blaze rod? if you mean tool in hand thats mining drill 18:10 RealBadangel sphax's texture pack 18:10 NekoGloop RealBadangel, no i mean the orangey thing in the GUI 18:10 VanessaE also set your server_url = [address of your forum thread] 18:11 Kacey bbl 18:11 VanessaE default_privs = hopefully more than just shout, e.g. fly, fast, etc. 18:11 RealBadangel at the top? 18:11 ShadowNinja Jordach: Add the IRC mod. :-) It will make it easier to ask for privs. 18:11 NekoGloop RealBadangel, yes 18:11 Jordach ShadowNinja, hold on please 18:11 PilzAdam Jordach, DONT MAKE A CREATIVE SERVER!!! 18:11 Jordach PilzAdam, it isnt 18:12 RealBadangel its a pencil, click it to edit chest infotext 18:12 ShadowNinja LOL. 18:12 VanessaE Jordach: make it creative - we have enough damn survival servers already. 18:12 Jordach yours is the best 18:12 VanessaE john_minetest: on the first post. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4057 18:12 NekoGloop VanessaE, Erm. I can't find any survival ones, other than glomie's server which doesn't count because old mods 18:12 RealBadangel NekoGloop, like so: http://i.imgur.com/7p6uMuc.png 18:12 Taoki http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97455#p97455 Better screenshots 18:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: http://minetest.net/servers 18:12 Jordach \O/ spawn is v6_jungle 18:13 VanessaE most of those are survival 18:13 VanessaE well about half are. 18:13 Taoki http://i42.tinypic.com/2hzsvgn.png ---- http://i44.tinypic.com/jkevkg.png 18:13 NekoGloop Taoki, hrm, yeah, allow configurable fog intensity. 18:14 PilzAdam VanessaE, so the other half is creative 18:14 Taoki This doesn't feel like it needs to be configurable, but if the devs want I can do that 18:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: um.. duh? 18:14 PilzAdam but survival servers need a good ping, so Jordach VPS is perfect for this 18:15 NekoGloop Taoki, it looks kinda odd, especially in the first one 18:15 Jordach not to mention this is provided by StarBlessed 18:15 NekoGloop about half of that intensity would be good for me~ 18:15 Taoki NekoGloop: It aims for a realistic to surrealistic feel 18:16 NekoGloop Taoki, can you at least -attempt- what half intensity looks like 18:16 Taoki NekoGloop: Was about to do that now. I will 18:16 PilzAdam Taoki, it seems like just applying the sun color is wrong here 18:16 Jordach PilzAdam, mt.viewskew.com 18:16 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com 18:16 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (227ms) 18:16 ShadowBot Jordach: mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (598ms) 18:16 Jordach uh oh 18:16 Jordach ShadowBot, shuch 18:16 PilzAdam ShadowBot, STFU 18:16 Jordach shush* 18:16 ShadowBot PilzAdam: The operation succeeded. 18:16 PilzAdam \o/ 18:17 Taoki PilzAdam: I apply a color blend of my own, not the sun color 18:17 PilzAdam Taoki, oh, then the color is wrong 18:17 PilzAdam yellow fog is meh 18:17 sokomine nekogloop: there are many survival servers. which direction do you prefer? which mods would you like to see? what do you expect from a server? 18:17 NekoGloop erm 18:17 Taoki PilzAdam: I'm not sure how to improve on the formula any further or how to make that any better 18:17 Jordach PilzAdam, did you just join 18:17 ShadowNinja Hmmm... 18:17 PilzAdam downloading media... 18:18 PilzAdam Jordach, cURL? 18:18 Jordach remote_media isnt used 18:18 PilzAdam but... but why? 18:18 NekoGloop because pie 18:18 PilzAdam uh, oh, crashed 18:18 PilzAdam Assertion '!m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed 18:18 Taoki NekoGloop: Half intensity looks acceptable, but way less beautiful :( 18:18 sokomine yes, happens sometimes 18:19 NekoGloop Taoki, screenies 18:19 Taoki Well, still pretty beautiful 18:19 Taoki Hold on 18:19 Taoki It's actually not that bad. Hmmm 18:19 NekoGloop I just don't want every node in the fog to look like some kind of solid orange block >.> 18:20 PilzAdam Jordach, 18:20:20: ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL 18:20 Jordach PilzAdam, im using the stable 18:23 * NekoGloop bugs Taoki for screenies of half-intense fog 18:23 Taoki NekoGloop: Coming, checking it a bit more 18:23 Taoki It looks better at half intensity yes 18:23 NekoGloop See? Listen to the kitty cat ;) 18:27 Exio what basic but light mods would you recommend (for survival)? 18:28 NekoGloop Glooptest. 18:28 * NekoGloop shameless plug 18:28 Exio what does it contain more than randomblocks 18:28 NekoGloop Um. 18:28 NekoGloop Edible rocks. 18:29 Exio and more than random rocks and blocks 18:31 * john_minetest tries to figure out how to do a minetest map with layers like openstreetmap 18:34 Taoki NekoGloop, Jordach: With half intensity - http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97458#p97458 18:34 Taoki Already updated the comit 18:35 Taoki PilzAdam: ^ Does that seem ok enough intensity wise? I'm not going any lowrer... that's prolly the lowest it will go while still looking beautiful 18:35 Jordach Taoki, take 10% off 18:35 Jordach it looks better but just overpowered 18:35 VanessaE Taoki: those are good enough for me anyway :) 18:35 Taoki Jordach: Any lower would look ugly. It's really good now 18:38 Exio implement it with shaders? 18:38 Exio or how are you implementing that? :P 18:38 VanessaE Taoki: make the shading configurable in minetest.conf 18:38 NekoGloop Well you can tell that the farther nodes aren't just orange blocks 18:38 VanessaE then everyone's happy :) 18:38 Taoki VanessaE: You mean the intensity? 18:38 Taoki Exio: In the Render function of sky.cpp 18:39 VanessaE the intensity yes, and the color tinting forumlas if at all possible 18:39 Taoki It just modifies the color before rendering, no need for shaders 18:39 Exio hmm 18:39 Taoki VanessaE: Shading is possible, color tinting formulas no 18:39 VanessaE just the shading then 18:39 VanessaE and any other variable you can think of that can affect the result in a predictable way 18:39 Exio Taoki: how does it look with shaders enabled? 18:40 Taoki My screenshots ARE with shaders enabled :P 18:40 Taoki And with them disabled, they look identical by all logics 18:40 Exio ah 18:40 Exio k 18:47 Taoki PilzAdam: Is the intensity ok for you in the latest code? 18:49 Taoki Though again, I'd rather throw the code away than decrease it any lower than 0.5. If I do it will totally lose the feel and effect 18:51 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Fix sand, gravel falling stuck 37ca8854f7 2013-06-30T11:48:51-07:00 http://git.io/rJGFQQ 18:52 Exio is WE using the luavm? 18:52 NekoGloop Erm, wasn't that fixed forever ago 18:56 Taoki So... everyone happy with the latest fog thingie? I'll pull request it tonight. 18:56 Taoki Just no lower intensity than that... 0.5 is borderline perfect 18:59 VanessaE Taoki: screw everyone else, just merge it :D 18:59 Taoki VanessaE: I can't I don't have upstream access >_< 18:59 VanessaE shit. 18:59 Taoki I'll have to haunt PilzAdam most likely ;) 19:00 Taoki Plus him & celeron55 for the VBO code (even harder) 19:00 Taoki Well, not hard(ER), since so far none of the devs objected to the fog code 19:02 Exio 15:51:10: ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL 19:02 Exio what is this 19:02 NekoGloop Exio magic 19:14 VanessaE NekoGloop: server updated. 19:18 MarkTwain hi 19:18 Calinou hi 19:18 MarkTwain I need some help 19:18 MarkTwain I have 2 servers 19:18 MarkTwain void.bugs3.com and marktwain.bugs3.com 19:18 MarkTwain all content is on marktwain atm 19:19 MarkTwain Forum, Social Network, Business, Chat, Media Manager, Wiki 19:19 MarkTwain I need to move some of it to the other server 19:23 * PilzAdam won a fight with a DM 19:24 MarkTwain I know how to! just want to know what people want so i can move it to the faster one 19:24 Calinou PilzAdam, not hard 19:24 NekoGloop dungeon setting for mapgen v6? 19:24 NekoGloop whatsthat 19:25 Calinou mg_flags = caves,trees,dungeons,jungles,v6_biome_blend 19:26 NekoGloop yes I know 19:26 NekoGloop what's it do 19:26 Calinou it adds dungeons? 19:26 MarkTwain atm i plan to move the social network to the faster one 19:26 Calinou (in newly made worlds) 19:26 NekoGloop Calinou, anything special in these dungeons? 19:27 Calinou mossy cobble 19:27 Exio and cobble 19:27 NekoGloop I see... 19:27 Exio the precious cobble that nobody haz 19:27 NekoGloop no uber-death-machines? 19:27 Calinou no 19:27 NekoGloop nice 19:28 * NekoGloop is going to assume that they're pretty much similar to MC dungeons, without loot chests and monsters 19:28 Calinou not really 19:28 Calinou MC dungeons are 5×5, 7×7 or 5×7 with a spawner and 1-2 chests (rarely, 0) 19:29 Calinou MT dungeons have a lot of rooms 19:29 Calinou some small, some big 19:29 Calinou and there are staircases too 19:29 NekoGloop THERE WE GO. 19:29 NekoGloop Knew there was some way to get a decent description of them. 19:30 * Jordach revokes PilzAdam's interact 19:30 * NekoGloop revokes PilzAdam's all 19:31 PilzAdam this server lags 19:33 Jordach PilzAdam, the VPS is in US 19:33 NekoGloop that would be why 19:39 Exio is MT lagspiking after leaving it 15 minutes running with vanilla a known bug? 19:41 Calinou Exio, "works for me" --ecks and you about suspend 19:43 NekoGloop How does one check for a priv of a player again? 19:43 VanessaE /privs playername 19:43 VanessaE :P 19:43 NekoGloop from lua 19:43 VanessaE 19:43 NekoGloop well that was a valid answer to the asked question 19:44 NekoGloop just because the asked question wasn't accurate to what I wanted, though, doesn't really mean much. 19:45 PilzAdam VanessaE trolling? \o/ 19:48 NekoGloop Ok, what's a priv usually given to server moderators? 19:49 NekoGloop ban would probably be a good one 19:53 BlockMen Hey, a short announcement: The official wiki has moved. It is now at http://wiki.minetest.net . Thanks alot to thexyz who is hosting it now. 19:53 BlockMen http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97474 19:55 ShadowNinja Remove the cat/dog CAPTCHA! It doesn't work. 19:56 thexyz thanks, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s400/ALOT.png 19:56 * john_minetest puts a cat/dog on ShadowNinja's head 19:56 thexyz ShadowNinja: did you even try? 19:57 Calinou put a pony captcha instead, so that john_minetest can complete it 19:57 Calinou "Which pony is this?" [insert pony image here] 19:57 Calinou :-) 19:57 ShadowNinja Hmmm, it works now. But it is still annoying. A normal one or word one would be better. 19:58 PilzAdam do I have to create a new account? 19:58 BlockMen ShadowNinja, in oposite to old one it works :P 19:58 thexyz ShadowNinja: of course it works 19:58 Exio Calinou: in singleplayer that doesn't happen for me 19:58 BlockMen PA, yes 19:58 thexyz ShadowNinja: you only need to enter it once 19:58 thexyz when registering 19:58 thexyz is that such a big deal? 19:59 ShadowNinja thexyz: It doesn't(or didn't) work on dev.minetest.net. 19:59 thexyz it does work on dev.minetest.net 20:00 PilzAdam Jordach, fuck this, the server is too laggy 20:00 Jordach PilzAdam, RTT = 0.100 20:00 PilzAdam Jordach, got ninja'd by stone monster that appeared _after_ it killed me 20:00 Jordach i teleported you to 0,0,0 20:00 thexyz Calinou: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=How_to_start_contributing&curid=422&diff=1373&oldid=1372&rcid=1483 why? 20:01 ShadowNinja thexyz: Favicon? 20:01 Calinou because that guy 1) believes ideas actually add to the game 2) added an useless introduction 20:01 Calinou they don't, ideas are as cheap as air 20:01 Calinou (if not cheaper) 20:02 PilzAdam BlockMen, the link at the main page still points at minetest.com 20:03 BlockMen PilzAdam, i know. i wanted notify c55 to change (i cant change main nav) 20:04 PilzAdam BlockMen, also, what does "official" mean? 20:05 BlockMen PilzAdam, http://www.dict.cc/?s=official :P 20:05 PilzAdam Jordach, btw, I found 3 diamonds, you can get them from my bones in 10 minutes 20:06 BlockMen it was called before official, so when hosting by a core dev i think official is ok. 20:06 thexyz Calinou: I'm not sure this is right.. 20:06 BlockMen furthermore it is now under minetest.net which IS the official website of minetest 20:07 PilzAdam BlockMen, the official website points at the wiki at minetest.com 20:07 BlockMen PilzAdam, will be changed... 20:07 BlockMen i have asked c55 already 20:08 thexyz Calinou: it depends on what an "idea" is to you 20:08 BlockMen maybe i should change the template that way, that the members can also change navigation 20:09 Calinou thexyz, most people, by idea, understand "hey, add curvable materials|colored lights|fish and fish blocks to game" 20:09 thexyz for example, the description of logic behind redstone/mesecons can be called "an idea" too, right? 20:10 Calinou this is what I understand by "idea" 20:12 PilzAdam Calinou, I like how that introduction says "play the game before annoying others" 20:14 Calinou PilzAdam, you can talk, you seem to be annoyed by random people posting ideas :P 20:15 thexyz Calinou: well, I doubt those people you describe will use dev wiki 20:16 sfan5 Win32 build of MirceaKitsune's fog color additions/changes: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-37ca885-betterfog-win32.7z 20:17 NekoGloop you're still versioning as 0.4.6? :O 20:17 sfan5 ummm 20:17 sfan5 w8 20:18 NekoGloop windows 8? why? ;) 20:21 sfan5 NekoGloop: "meow" is a valid reason 20:21 NekoGloop meow 20:22 NekoGloop And what are you blaming me for now 20:22 Jordach btw, NekoGloop speaks meow and purr into a mic and IRC translates it 20:22 Calinou if he says "woof", his IRC client segfaults 20:22 NekoGloop Yes, I need to work out the bugs in the software 20:22 NekoGloop Somemeow it doesn't work 20:25 sfan5 NekoGloop: I blame you for making me notice that I dl'd the wrong branch 20:25 NekoGloop heh 20:29 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Disable collision fix, its broke unit tests 131eb56f52 2013-06-30T13:26:54-07:00 http://git.io/unnGFg 20:29 Calinou night 20:29 thexyz onomatopoeia is broken, btw 20:30 sfan5 Taoki: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-37ca885-betterfog-win32.7z 20:30 sfan5 !g leaf.js 20:30 MinetestBot sfan5: http://leafletjs.com/examples/custom-icons.html 20:30 Taoki Thanks 20:32 VanessaE that's that 3d mapper, right? 20:33 VanessaE (the one thexyz did?) 20:33 VanessaE yes, that one 20:33 VanessaE if someone could show me how to use it, I might 20:34 VanessaE but when I last looked, it didn't support nodeboxes. 20:36 VanessaE yeah, I recognize this map 20:40 Forty-3 I am unable to run minetest even after a recompile: http://ur1.ca/ehmlo 20:40 VanessaE maybe I'll try it some time, but there are no instructions 20:42 Forty-3 I reran cmake 20:42 PilzAdam Forty-3, how do you compile? 20:42 Forty-3 cmake .;make;su -c 'make install' 20:43 VanessaE john_minetest: now I see why I didn't try it...all of the recognized nodes and textures are hard-coded. 20:43 VanessaE bummer. 20:43 PilzAdam Forty-3, try rm CMakeCache.txt and then rerun the other commands 20:43 Forty-3 k 20:43 thexyz which reminds me I probably should redo onomatopoeia 20:44 BlockMen bye everyone 20:44 Forty-3 john_minetest: same thing 20:47 Forty-3 err 20:47 Forty-3 PilzAdam: same thing 20:47 PilzAdam can you paste all the terminal output since cmake . ? 20:47 VanessaE pastebin* 20:49 Forty-3 sure 20:49 Forty-3 http://ur1.ca/ehmqp 20:51 PilzAdam thats strange 20:51 VanessaE does RUN_IN_PLACE default to 0 or 1? 20:52 PilzAdam whats the output of "whereis irrlicht"? 20:52 NekoGloop 1 iirc 20:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, 0 20:52 VanessaE ok, thought so 20:52 NekoGloop ok fine 20:53 sfan5 good night 20:53 Forty-3 irrlicht: /usr/include/irrlicht 20:54 Forty-3 PilzAdam: ^ 20:56 PilzAdam please post the output of cmake . -LH 20:56 Forty-3 ki 20:56 Forty-3 *k 20:57 Forty-3 http://ur1.ca/ehmuy 20:58 PilzAdam I cant find anything non-normal there 20:59 PilzAdam try cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 and dont run make install 20:59 PilzAdam then run the executeable from bin/ 20:59 Forty-3 k 21:00 Forty-3 gah 21:01 Forty-3 stupid pasting 21:01 Forty-3 PilzAdam: same thing 21:01 * john_minetest is rendering the tiles 21:07 STHGOM who made the animations for 3D sam? 21:07 VanessaE Taoki did. 21:07 VanessaE Stu also made a model with nice elbow/knee joints 21:08 STHGOM minecraft's model is like that 21:08 STHGOM but who says it need to be like minecraft??? 21:09 Jordach STHGOM, the MC model doesnt have elbows/knees 21:09 STHGOM opps 21:09 STHGOM oops 21:09 STHGOM sry 21:10 Forty-3 PilzAdam: poke 21:10 PilzAdam Forty-3, sorry, I have no idea 21:10 Forty-3 damn 21:10 PilzAdam ask the support of your distro 21:11 STHGOM my friend says sam looks like hes drunk :D 21:11 VanessaE haha 21:11 PilzAdam STHGOM, hes not called sam 21:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: he's called SAM (in all caps) 21:11 PilzAdam nope.avi 21:11 STHGOM somewhere i heard him called sa 21:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: you don't make the rules here, the rest of us do :P 21:12 VanessaE Jordach and I named the model SAM (=SAM Ain't Minecraft) 21:12 Jordach Sam for short :P 21:12 PilzAdam neither of you are core devs 21:12 VanessaE so? 21:12 Jordach PilzAdam, the community name things you see in-game 21:13 Jordach not to mention the mc player was never supposed to be called steve 21:13 STHGOM SAM: Silly Awsome Man 21:13 STHGOM D 21:13 STHGOM :D 21:13 Forty-3 SAM: SAM is an Awesome Man 21:14 VanessaE STHGOM: it has to be recursive. SAM Ain't Minecraft. 21:14 VanessaE :) 21:15 RealBadangel PilzAdam, stop being against every proposal 21:15 RealBadangel this is getting boring 21:15 VanessaE and frustrating. 21:16 RealBadangel i can understand you can have different ideas, but every single time? you are blockin everythin 21:16 RealBadangel this is made by community and for the community 21:17 PilzAdam its not made by the community 21:17 RealBadangel and please take care what other think 21:17 STHGOM yes it is 21:17 STHGOM how many mods are there 21:17 STHGOM mostly 21:17 RealBadangel of fucking course it is 21:17 RealBadangel we are the community 21:17 RealBadangel you too 21:17 PilzAdam RealBadangel, also: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/c3c5f8a228f5e60506c5df74deeaf8b9fc26c11c <- this proofs you are wrong 21:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: actually that's proof that he's right, as you mito and I all worked on getting those sounds to some usable level before committing. 21:18 PilzAdam yes, but I supported the idea of new sounds 21:19 RealBadangel so hmmmm too 21:19 RealBadangel and im goin to reverse in my game 21:19 PilzAdam so "against every proposal" and "blockin everythin" is wrong 21:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: yes, but you initially rejected the idea that some of those new sounds just weren't any good. 21:19 RealBadangel but im not screamin that every proposal is shit 21:19 VanessaE (no offense to mito) 21:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, this shows that there is a reason when I say "no" 21:20 RealBadangel 1 for 1000 of other 21:20 RealBadangel *s 21:20 PilzAdam RealBadangel, also, "blocking everything" <- I have more features committed than you 21:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: 90% of what you say "no" to is because you personally don't like the idea, whatever it may be, with no allowance whatsoever that maybe, just MAYBE you're the *only* one who doesn't like it. 21:20 * NekoGloop votes for Pilz to be booted from the team because of bias with ideas 21:21 NekoGloop basically "this is my game now your ideas are shit" 21:21 RealBadangel PilzAdam, maybe because im not commiting because i know you will block it? 21:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: non sequitur - you've also been the only one who had any real commit access to minetest_game for a long while 21:21 VanessaE (until recently) 21:21 NekoGloop "if they happen to coincide with what I want, then good for you" 21:21 RealBadangel how many commits to your projects have you posted today? 21:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, are you kidding? if someone asks me if I like a feature then of course I will follow my presonal preference 21:22 PilzAdam everything else would be insane 21:22 NekoGloop PilzAdam, Yes but whether you like it or not shouldn't matter for whether it's a good idea to have it in minetest. 21:22 PilzAdam RealBadangel, 1 or 2 21:22 RealBadangel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game/commits/master 21:22 RealBadangel face this :P 21:23 Uberi well, you know, there is always those Minetest forks 21:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah but everyone has to go through you anyone to GET anything into the game to begin with 21:23 PilzAdam are we talking about the engine or minetest_game 21:23 VanessaE the game, mostly. 21:23 PilzAdam +? 21:23 PilzAdam well, currently nobody can get a new feature into minetest_game 21:23 * NekoGloop has posted like 7 or 8 commits to glooptest mainly because I don't feel like combining commits into one. 21:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: exactly. 21:24 PilzAdam I refuse to add any new feature because of people compaling about everything 21:24 VanessaE thank you for illustrating my point. 21:24 VanessaE YOU REFUSE!? 21:24 VanessaE it is minetest_game, not pilzadam_game 21:24 Uberi what is the proposed solution here? 21:24 PilzAdam of course this includes the features Id like to see in minetest_game 21:25 VanessaE Uberi: there is no solution afaik. 21:25 Uberi well, you can't give everyone push privs 21:25 NekoGloop Uberi, the only solution is to rename the repo to pilzadam_game and start over 21:25 Uberi or fork, obviously 21:26 NekoGloop Also, while everyone's here, does on_construct call when mapgen places a node? 21:26 PilzAdam the problem with minetest_game is that its too central; everyone wants to pull it in his direction 21:27 NekoGloop PilzAdam, the problem with minetest_game is that you THINK everyone wants to pull it from you 21:27 Uberi and if that happens, nobody will like it 21:27 PilzAdam ^ 21:27 VanessaE that's what configuration options are for 21:27 PilzAdam NekoGloop, that was discuseed a while ago and everyone agrees that there is no suitable solution here 21:28 VanessaE if some new feature is controversial, disable it by default. it's that simple. 21:28 * john_minetest is listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBK2blOJtk all day long 21:29 NekoGloop https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commits/master a total of ten commits from today and yesterday. 21:34 RealBadangel NekoGloop, i dont think its is called then 21:35 NekoGloop hrm, then is it possible to call it externally? I'd assume so. 21:36 RealBadangel at least swaping nodes doesnt trigger it 21:37 NekoGloop ah, minetest.place_node causes all events of a player placing it 21:37 NekoGloop probably safe to assume this includes on_construct 21:37 RealBadangel try adding to any ore on_construct and print(dump("anything")) and check it out 21:38 PilzAdam NekoGloop, on_construct() is even called when "only" using set_node() 21:38 NekoGloop ah alright 21:38 NekoGloop makes these a little easier 21:39 PilzAdam the only cases where on_construct() is called are: mapgen, place_schematic() and the Lua voxelmanip 21:39 PilzAdam *not called 21:39 NekoGloop i see 21:41 svuorela hmm... can I farm sheep using the simple mobs mod ? 21:41 PilzAdam yes 21:42 PilzAdam feed them with wheat 21:44 svuorela but how do I fetch or keep them ? 21:44 svuorela or do they follow me once I've fed them ? 21:44 PilzAdam they will follow you if you hold wheat in your hand 21:44 svuorela and that way I can walk them into a fenced-off area ? 21:44 PilzAdam yea 21:45 Uberi do they breed with wheat? 21:45 PilzAdam nope 21:46 VanessaE no, you just need to leave them alone for a while - the server will breed them for you :P 21:47 PilzAdam john_minetest, "its guy love, between two guys" 21:49 PilzAdam "everything comes down to poo" 21:56 PilzAdam john_minetest, I think this is the best scene in scrubs: http://youtu.be/w5InEV8mvps 21:58 PilzAdam MANGO BODY BUTTER!?!?! 21:59 PilzAdam later in the epised Elliot asks him if he ate her mango body butter :D 21:59 PilzAdam *episode 22:20 NekoGloop Hrm, haven't used lua in a while... remind me of the proper way to iterate through a list? 22:21 Exio ipairs? 22:21 VanessaE for i in ipairs(mytable) do myvar=table[i] print(var) end 22:22 VanessaE er print(myvar)...etc 22:22 NekoGloop hm 22:22 VanessaE that's how I do it anyway 22:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, you forgot ,var 22:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: not necessary. 22:22 NekoGloop I just want to repeat something 24 times, remembering how many times I've done it. 22:22 NekoGloop This is the appropriate approach to that? 22:22 VanessaE NekoGloop: for i = 1,24 do xxxxx end 22:23 NekoGloop and it will go from 1 to 24? 22:23 VanessaE mmhmm 22:23 NekoGloop Alright. 22:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, I guess its more performant if you do for i,v than for ... do v =table[i] 22:23 VanessaE but iterating through a list the first way is better. 22:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: old habit from other languages/ 22:23 VanessaE . 22:24 NekoGloop All I wanna do is populate an inventory ;) 22:26 VanessaE use the former loop then 22:26 NekoGloop why? 22:26 VanessaE since you surely need a table to decide WHAT gets put into the inventory 22:26 NekoGloop Indeed. 22:26 NekoGloop But it's randomly picked from said table. 22:26 VanessaE then use the latter loop. 22:30 NekoGloop Now, how to tell the amount of entries in my loot table... 22:31 VanessaE len=#loottable or something like that? 22:31 NekoGloop eh? 22:32 VanessaE the # sign in front of a table name gives the length of the table I think. 22:33 NekoGloop Ok. What's the random function again? :P 22:33 VanessaE math.random() 22:33 VanessaE math.random(lowest, highest) 22:33 NekoGloop inclusive? 22:34 VanessaE yeah 22:34 VanessaE pretty sure anyway 22:35 NekoGloop alright 22:36 Uberi yes, it's inclusive 22:37 NekoGloop alright 22:38 NekoGloop to be sure: break will only stop one loop, right? 22:38 Uberi the innermost one, yes 22:38 NekoGloop gotcha 22:39 Uberi to break out of multiple ones, you can use goto 22:39 VanessaE goto! 22:39 VanessaE :) 22:39 NekoGloop goto hell 22:39 NekoGloop ;) 22:39 STHGOM bye 22:39 STHGOM i go :D 22:39 * Uberi picked up some bad habits from ASM 22:40 VanessaE Uberi: CLC: BCC xxx ftw :) 22:40 NekoGloop "xxx ftw" 22:40 * NekoGloop leaves 22:40 Uberi btfsc STATUS, 0 22:40 VanessaE :P 22:47 NekoGloop I have had this same song on repeat since 9 AM this morning 22:47 NekoGloop wut 22:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: replace it with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI 22:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BajXx_MkhYA nah 22:49 PilzAdam VanessaE, you are old 22:49 VanessaE 39. 22:50 NekoGloop divide by 3 = me 22:51 * NekoGloop wonders when preserve={""} is going to be implemented in minetest.register_craft() 22:51 VanessaE preserve? 22:51 * NekoGloop points at lua_api.txt 22:52 Uberi like bucket of water -> empty bucket, VanessaE 22:52 VanessaE use replacements. 22:52 Uberi yeah replacements are designed for this 22:52 VanessaE not as good but close enough for most uses. 22:52 PilzAdam nope 22:52 NekoGloop nonono 22:52 VanessaE replacements = { { "buckets:bucket_water", "buckets:bucket_empty" } } 22:52 PilzAdam replacements dont work with items that are stacked 22:52 NekoGloop for example, the group usage. and stacks. 22:53 VanessaE eh, well then there's no way to do it 22:53 Uberi well items that need replacements generally have a stack_max of 1 anyways 22:53 NekoGloop preserve will simply keep the itemstack there 22:54 NekoGloop table.pack? :O 22:56 Uberi NekoGloop: I assume it turns an explist into a table 22:56 Uberi but the table constructor can already do that 22:56 Uberi see: {...}, for packing *args 22:57 NekoGloop hrm, table.pack(table.unpack({...})) would add the "n" field with the max number, correct? :P 22:57 Uberi I dunno if that would work, since explists can't have the named field "n" 22:58 Uberi oh wait a minute 22:58 Uberi yeah I think that'd work 22:58 NekoGloop hehe 22:58 Uberi but just use table.pack(...) 22:58 Uberi it's shorter and faste 22:58 Uberi r 23:00 NekoGloop huh, NP++ doesn't highlight table.pack 23:00 Uberi i think it's new to lua 5.2 23:00 NekoGloop which means it may or may not work in minetest 23:00 PilzAdam Minetest uses 5.1 23:00 NekoGloop fuck 23:00 Uberi PilzAdam: but we can use goto and labels in mods 23:01 * NekoGloop flips a table 23:01 PilzAdam Uberi, is that 5.2 too? 23:01 Uberi yeah, I believe so 23:01 PilzAdam maybe your LuaJIT uses 5.2, but lua-api.txt clearly says we use 5.1 23:02 Uberi ah that could explain it 23:02 PilzAdam and the packed Lua is 5.1 too 23:02 NekoGloop hehe 23:02 NekoGloop so it would work for people who compile with LuaJIT but nobody else 23:02 Uberi so avoid lua 5.2 features, since those without luajit builds will not be able to use them 23:02 NekoGloop which would be fine imo because fuck non-luajit is slow 23:03 PilzAdam the problem with LuaJIT is that its not packed with minetest, so it might be 5.1 too 23:04 NekoGloop So #insert.table.name_here is proper for obtaining the number of entries? 23:04 Uberi yep 23:04 Uberi well, not for sparse tables 23:04 PilzAdam this version confusing stuff is the reaason why we bundle Lua in the source 23:05 Uberi # actually gets the length of the sequence before a nil index 23:05 Uberi but which sequence that actually is is implementation defined 23:06 NekoGloop well a loot table like so: http://pastebin.com/5gmhUHns should be fine? 23:06 Uberi yeah, that's a normal array 23:07 NekoGloop yay 23:08 PilzAdam ok, my LuaJIT uses Lua 5.1 23:08 Uberi huh 23:08 NekoGloop heh 23:08 PilzAdam and I use the one in the standard ubuntu repos 23:08 NekoGloop well i have whatever he has so 23:09 PilzAdam ehm, I dont know wich version I use for my win builds ;-) 23:09 PilzAdam NekoGloop, try print(_VERSION) 23:09 NekoGloop I don't care 23:09 Uberi assume 5.1 23:09 NekoGloop if i'm supposed to make 5.1 usable code i'll do it 23:09 Exio the api changed in 5.2 23:09 Uberi NekoGloop: what are you trying to do? 23:10 PilzAdam if you have 5.2 then you wont notice if its not 5.1 compatible 23:10 NekoGloop Uberi, randomly spawning treasure chests throughout the world. 23:10 PilzAdam Exio, what API? 23:10 VanessaE whichbegs the question, at what point willMT move to 5.2? 23:10 Exio lua<->C api 23:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, never 23:10 PilzAdam it will break mods 23:10 Exio afaik it changed in some stuff, so it won't compile if you use lua5.2 without changing the code 23:11 NekoGloop Later: Lua 7.0 released, MT still uses 5.1 23:11 NekoGloop ;-) 23:11 Exio if lua releases a 6x version 23:11 PilzAdam NekoGloop, whats the problem with that 23:11 PilzAdam +? 23:11 Exio it will, probably, not be compatible in any way to the API 23:11 NekoGloop Nothing really. 23:12 Uberi I thought 5.2 was backwards compatible? 23:12 Exio who will rewrite half of the lua_api files? 23:12 Exio Uberi: i guess it is, but not in the lua<->C api? :P 23:12 NekoGloop Exio, You! :D 23:12 Uberi ouch 23:12 PilzAdam Uberi, lets put an assert(_VERSION == "Lua 5.1") in builtin and lets see who uses 5.2 :-p 23:12 Exio or even better 23:12 Uberi heheheh 23:13 NekoGloop hehe 23:13 Uberi compat.lua: _VERSION = "Lua 5.1" 23:13 PilzAdam NekoGloop, can you please test your version? I want to know it too 23:13 Exio cheater! 23:13 NekoGloop PilzAdam, pfft fine 23:13 Uberi h4x0rz 23:14 PilzAdam > _VERSION = "Lua 10" 23:14 PilzAdam > print(_VERSION) 23:14 PilzAdam Lua 10 23:14 PilzAdam > 23:14 PilzAdam \o/ 23:14 VanessaE WIN! 23:14 Uberi :O 23:14 * NekoGloop makes glooptest write _VERSION to the console ten times on load 23:14 Uberi you gotta set up some send delays in your IRC client PilzAdam 23:15 PilzAdam or just kick ShadowBot 23:15 NekoGloop PilzAdam, 5.1 23:15 PilzAdam NekoGloop, good 23:15 PilzAdam so my win builds are compatible with the minetest API 23:15 NekoGloop THEY'RE TAKIN THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD! 23:15 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BajXx_MkhYA 23:15 PilzAdam I heard the song yesterday for 1 hour 23:16 NekoGloop I know 23:16 NekoGloop I joined when you were taking a break at 10 mins 23:16 PilzAdam everyone who hears it longer has no life, everyone who hasnt heard it that long is a n00b! 23:16 * NekoGloop has no life anyway 23:17 Exio what is it 23:17 * VanessaE has no life, has never heard it, and is not a n00b. Figure that one out :P 23:17 NekoGloop Exio, a virus 23:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, LIAR! 23:18 Exio i'm searching thing called life, from where can i download it? 23:18 NekoGloop VanessaE, and then the world segfaults 23:18 VanessaE heh 23:18 PilzAdam Exio, $ whereis life 23:18 PilzAdam no results :-/ 23:18 Exio $ whereis life 23:18 Exio life: 23:18 Exio :( 23:18 NekoGloop PilzAdam, "The Game Of Life!" 23:18 PilzAdam does it run on the Minetest engine? 23:18 Exio it is faster than that PilzAdam 23:19 PilzAdam no way 23:19 NekoGloop No it's a literal computer implementation of the board game "Life" 23:19 Uberi life: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79941#p79941 23:19 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79941#p79941 23:19 VanessaE DAMN 23:19 VanessaE ninja'd 23:19 Uberi hahaha :P 23:19 Exio i want better ram :( 23:19 NekoGloop I want a ram too 23:19 Uberi there's a luacontroller bug that prevents a lot of my machines from working 23:20 PilzAdam I want ROM, so I dont have to remember you :-p 23:20 NekoGloop Uberi, ew luacontrollers 23:20 Uberi but for the life of me I can't find it 23:20 VanessaE NekoGloop: what's wrong with luacontrollers? 23:20 Uberi NekoGloop: go ahead, build a 3D printer without luacontrollers! 23:20 NekoGloop ew using lua more than I have to 23:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, they are hacky 23:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: to you EVERYTHING is hacky 23:20 Uberi hacky? 23:21 PilzAdam its too easy to build a computer 23:21 NekoGloop PilzAdam, lua is hacky 23:21 VanessaE Minetest is hacky. 23:21 VanessaE it's too easy to build a skyscraper. 23:21 VanessaE QED. 23:21 Uberi the universe is hacky, it uses numerical integration 23:22 Exio Uberi: is WE using the luavoxelmanip now? 23:22 Uberi Exio: nope, I spent the last few days playing video games and unpacking boxes 23:22 Exio aw 23:22 PilzAdam Uberi, even the nether mod uses it now! 23:22 Uberi actually I'm still doing that so it has to wait 23:22 Uberi what? really? 23:23 NekoGloop Uberi, will a "break" in a if statement in a for loop break the if statement or the for loop? 23:23 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/blob/voxelmanip/init.lua#L372 23:23 Uberi NekoGloop: the loop, break only applies to loops 23:23 NekoGloop got it 23:25 NekoGloop I'll make it so that once it succeeds in putting an item in a slot, it moves on instead of retrying (which it does a max of 3 times for each slot 23:25 PilzAdam Uberi, the vmanip is really fast 23:25 PilzAdam the nether generation is like a billion times faster now 23:25 Uberi awesome :) 23:25 * NekoGloop should check out the nether 23:25 arsdragonfly Nekogloop : make the if statement an anonymous function and use return 23:25 PilzAdam (compared to the register_ore() hack used previously) 23:25 arsdragonfly To break 23:25 NekoGloop arsdragonfly, ? 23:26 Uberi hopefully we'll eventually have a way to set param2 and such, and maybe even meta 23:26 NekoGloop an... anonymous function? 23:26 PilzAdam Uberi, not really 23:26 Uberi NekoGloop: function() ... end 23:26 Uberi hmm? 23:26 PilzAdam Uberi, best way is to remember that nodes and set things after the vmanip is done 23:26 * NekoGloop has no idea what ars wants him to do 23:26 Uberi that sort of defeats the speed gains, no? 23:27 arsdragonfly Like (function () if blah blah blah ... end )() 23:27 PilzAdam the Lua VoxelManip is a directly interface to core, no fancy API features 23:27 Uberi anyways I was using place_schematic to do this, it's reasonably fast but could be faster 23:27 arsdragonfly (function () if blah blah blah return ... end )() 23:27 PilzAdam place_schematic() doesnt set meta either 23:27 Uberi PilzAdam: you mean the mapgen can't generate oriented nodes? 23:27 Uberi PilzAdam: yeah, but we can avoid the set_node call entirely 23:28 Uberi which is a nice speed boost 23:28 StarBlessed Hey guys. Love the mapgen PilzAdam 23:28 Uberi whereas with vmanip we need to go over it with set_node again to set param2 23:28 NekoGloop arsdragonfly, I want for xxx do if xxxx then break else xxx end end to break the for loop 23:29 NekoGloop 23:29 arsdragonfly It does IIRC 23:29 NekoGloop Then I'm good. 23:32 NekoGloop Tell me where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him~ 23:33 NekoGloop 23:33 PilzAdam A balrok of morkoth 23:33 PilzAdam what did you say? 23:33 PilzAdam A balrok of morkoth 23:33 NekoGloop balrog* morgoth* 23:33 PilzAdam why does Tolkien hates "k"? 23:34 NekoGloop For the same reason you cannot grammar. 23:34 NekoGloop hate* 23:35 PilzAdam hes not a native speaker? 23:36 NekoGloop Actually I am pretty sure he wasn't. Though he knew English well, I'm fairly certain it wasn't his first language. Or I could be completely wrong. 23:37 PilzAdam "The Tolkien family had its roots in Lower Saxony but had been living in England since the 18th century, becoming "quickly intensely English"." 23:37 PilzAdam "John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, CBE (/ˈtɒlkiːn/;[a] 3 January 1892 – 2 September 1973)" 23:38 PilzAdam he was born in England 23:38 PilzAdam pretty sure hes a native speaker then 23:38 NekoGloop So I'm completely wrong.. 23:38 PilzAdam Wikipedia: 1; NekoGloop: 0 23:38 NekoGloop I don't study literature either so I'm not surprised. 23:38 VanessaE brb 23:38 NekoGloop Oh, and, PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGfTLb6RFk0 23:39 PilzAdam round 2: where were "The Brennus and Charles Martel" first mentioned? 23:39 NekoGloop The question of a lifetime: "Why is the rum gone?" 23:39 NekoGloop Or at least, of 10 hours. 23:40 PilzAdam I already whatched that in a playlist with 50 10 hour videos 23:40 PilzAdam you know you are good if youtube only recommends you 10 hour videos ;-) 23:41 * NekoGloop would prefer that over some of the shit youtube thinks I wanna watch. 23:41 PilzAdam she pronounces "RUM" like "RAM" in german 23:42 NekoGloop Youtube: "You totally wanna watch "Jeff the Killer" right? Or "BEN.wmv"?" 23:42 PilzAdam "Why is the RAM gone?" 23:42 NekoGloop PilzAdam, because minetest 23:42 PilzAdam only if VBO is enabled ;-) 23:43 VanessaE or HDX :P 23:44 NekoGloop "VanessaE: "Oh I missed something, let's look at the logs" 23:44 VanessaE yup. 23:45 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI_fgwbmJg0 I have no idea what this is 23:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, you will never know the messages starting with a [off] 23:45 VanessaE oh well 23:45 NekoGloop [off] Meow 23:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop, thats rule 34 23:46 NekoGloop PilzAdam, You meow. 23:46 PilzAdam I mean, who would notice if there is pron in the middle? 23:46 NekoGloop Or a screamer 23:46 NekoGloop ;) 23:46 Kacey iiiiim back with good internet 23:46 NekoGloop jes sayin~ 23:47 NekoGloop [off] Screw the logs I'm a kitty cat 23:48 PilzAdam [off] Screw the logs I'm a kitty cat 23:48 PilzAdam >:-) 23:48 NekoGloop I never said that. 23:48 StarBlessed PilzAdam: So the Global media server is running. I think I got the most popular mods. 23:48 PilzAdam StarBlessed, awesome! saw it 23:48 * NekoGloop probably will not see glooptest/gloopblocks on that list 23:48 StarBlessed It should be all automated. Ill find out tonight when the cron job runs. 23:49 PilzAdam NekoGloop, what youtube recommends me: http://youtu.be/5NGguk8VXYc 23:49 StarBlessed It'll grab the latest content from the git sources, then sort and dump all the media files in the Global directory 23:49 StarBlessed Updating all the files. 23:50 PilzAdam StarBlessed, it requires mods to be on github? 23:50 StarBlessed If you want them updated automatically, yes. 23:50 NekoGloop [off] TO ISENGARD TO ISENGARD GARD GARD GARDGARD GARD 23:50 StarBlessed I can add them manually, but its easier to pull updates from git 23:51 * NekoGloop [off] does this work probably not 23:51 StarBlessed If someone doesnt have a git, I can host one for them. 23:51 NekoGloop Oh it does. 23:52 PilzAdam StarBlessed, seesm good 23:52 PilzAdam *seems 23:52 StarBlessed Im just hoping that it helps :D 23:52 PilzAdam any known servers who use your server yet? 23:55 NekoGloop AdownupAdownup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwjUWKP18c 23:59 StarBlessed Not yet, but Jordach has a VPS on my server. He's going to run a Server with it, so we'll see what happens :D 23:59 PilzAdam I already played on that server today