| Time |
Nick |
Message |
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| 00:06 |
* NekoGloop |
tosses a grenade |
| 00:06 |
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| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
ban? |
| 00:06 |
Exio |
$##nonwhere ;P |
| 00:07 |
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| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
Nope. |
| 00:07 |
Exio |
yes why not |
| 00:07 |
Exio |
NekoGloop: didn't you leave 4ever |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
I left until a new version |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
because progress |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
supposedly |
| 00:08 |
Exio |
aw |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
really? forum ban? |
| 00:08 |
Exio |
who said forum ban |
| 00:09 |
NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/8v7cOch.png this does |
| 00:09 |
Exio |
ah |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
did you blaned your posts? |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
*have you |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
*blanked |
| 00:10 |
NekoGloop |
I had deleted glooptest from github |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
I resurrected it. |
| 00:10 |
NekoGloop |
I can't bloody well tell |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
ok, finished 10 minutes of that video... TODO: the other 9 hours and 50 minutes |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
lololololol |
| 00:12 |
Exio |
hi Jordach |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, no cloak? |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
oops |
| 00:13 |
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| 00:13 |
Jordach |
there we go |
| 00:13 |
hacker |
PilzAdam: what video, btw? |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: btw, Kacey repaired the spare kitten generator. it runs on obsidian now, I think :P |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, "THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD!" |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
Oh god. |
| 00:14 |
hacker |
wtf? |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
that video |
| 00:14 |
Jordach |
hey NekoGloop |
| 00:14 |
* Jordach |
pets NekoGloop |
| 00:14 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs |
| 00:15 |
Jordach |
</reminded of the old days again> |
| 00:15 |
* MinetestBot |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
| 00:15 |
* NekoGloop |
is banned from the forums by presumably IP so no minetest for me even if I ever wanted to |
| 00:16 |
* NekoGloop |
slaps MinetestBot upside the head |
| 00:16 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97284#p97284 |
| 00:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, ^ |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
you dick |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
what does it say |
| 00:16 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, unban neko |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
he |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, you should do more textures |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
IMHO |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
jumpy today, are we enter key? :P |
| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, do you plan to post a "IM BACK!" topic? |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, I see no reason to |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
good |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Therefore I will not |
| 00:19 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach, What makes you say that? |
| 00:20 |
Jordach |
i thought the opposite for a moment |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
I mean the textures. |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I can't. ask the one who banned him. |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
Well this could take a while. |
| 00:20 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, the ones you made for mt_game were nice |
| 00:20 |
* NekoGloop |
puts feet up on desk and dozes off |
| 00:21 |
Jordach |
and anyways, we need a cat in IRC |
| 00:21 |
NekoGloop |
They're mainly vanessa's textures with all the edits she had me do >.> |
| 00:21 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97286#p97286 |
| 00:21 |
Exio |
don't you have NekoGloop now? |
| 00:21 |
PilzAdam |
( NekoGloop: that post says: "How many McDonalds cheeseburger do I have to eat to get the energy needed to move fast enough to watch an 10 hour video in 20 minutes?") |
| 00:21 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, over 9000 |
| 00:22 |
Jordach |
/nick FatAdam |
| 00:22 |
Jordach |
enjoy your diabeetus |
| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
*Fast |
| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
;-) |
| 00:23 |
NekoGloop |
Well... now the question is "who banned me" |
| 00:23 |
Jordach |
heh |
| 00:23 |
Jordach |
probably calinou or zyxeht |
| 00:23 |
* PilzAdam |
bets 1$ on Calinou |
| 00:23 |
Exio |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97287#p97287 |
| 00:23 |
NekoGloop |
Most likely, if it's not anyone here :P |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
!rev zyxeht |
| 00:24 |
MinetestBot |
thexyz |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
>:-) |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
http://piwik.xyz.is/piwik.js |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
i finally looked at the request log |
| 00:24 |
* Jordach |
drums on the laptop |
| 00:24 |
Jordach |
<- at girlfriends |
| 00:24 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, I thought that was a new moderator |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
and saw what xyz was doing with his domain |
| 00:25 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, there is a reason why I block the xyz.is scripts in the forums ;-) |
| 00:25 |
thexyz |
hm? |
| 00:25 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on thexyz's head |
| 00:25 |
Jordach |
https://xyz.is/awesome |
| 00:25 |
Jordach |
NOPE.AVI |
| 00:25 |
thexyz |
right, I banned NekoGloop |
| 00:25 |
thexyz |
Jordach: admit it |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, mind to unban him? |
| 00:26 |
Jordach |
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nope.gif |
| 00:26 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I won't do that |
| 00:26 |
Jordach |
even when not with my user commands, i still nope.avi people |
| 00:26 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: ask other moderators |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
*nope.gif |
| 00:27 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, <VanessaE> Jordach: I can't. ask the one who banned him. |
| 00:27 |
NekoGloop |
No minetest it is then. |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
I don't want to step on anyone's toes |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
I'm hated enough around here as it is. |
| 00:27 |
* NekoGloop |
must have missed something |
| 00:28 |
Jordach |
in shocking light of this revelation |
| 00:28 |
Jordach |
we need a trusted person to become moderator |
| 00:28 |
thexyz |
oh, so if VanessaE insists |
| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
so anyone but me |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
insists? huh? |
| 00:28 |
NekoGloop |
who isn't already a moderator and has at least one intellectual post on the forums |
| 00:28 |
Jordach |
> intellectual |
| 00:28 |
Jordach |
> minecraft converts usually being dumb |
| 00:29 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, /me |
| 00:29 |
Jordach |
amiright |
| 00:29 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: right |
| 00:29 |
NekoGloop |
Ohey, forums. |
| 00:29 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94890#p94890 <- that one |
| 00:29 |
thexyz |
I've lifted the ban |
| 00:29 |
NekoGloop |
they exist noqw |
| 00:30 |
* NekoGloop |
goes off and lurks for another year before signing up again |
| 00:30 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: so, what's the reason you block xyz.is scripts? |
| 00:30 |
PilzAdam |
I dont want to be tracked |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
lol, user metrics |
| 00:31 |
Exio |
paranoia thexyz |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
remind me to kill that domain in hosts.txt |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
>:D |
| 00:31 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: then set do-not-track header |
| 00:31 |
NekoGloop |
hm... |
| 00:31 |
thexyz |
hm, I probably should put piwik in subdirectory and append piwik.js to http://forum.minetest.net/include/js/min/punbb.common.min.js |
| 00:31 |
* NekoGloop |
should probably look at the minetest changelog before looking through the mods |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94894#p94894 |
| 00:31 |
thexyz |
that'd be fun |
| 00:32 |
Jordach |
moebius strip of posts |
| 00:32 |
thexyz |
the only way to not be tracked is to not use the internet |
| 00:32 |
Jordach |
lol, NSA |
| 00:32 |
Jordach |
*cough* |
| 00:32 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, well, I do my best ;-) |
| 00:33 |
thexyz |
yeah |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
not using google, FB and stuff like that is a good start |
| 00:33 |
Jordach |
you say you want to not be tracked, yet i can see your IP |
| 00:33 |
Jordach |
GG |
| 00:33 |
Exio |
what can you get with his ip |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, and? |
| 00:33 |
Jordach |
Exio, geolocation |
| 00:34 |
Exio |
i guess, the country |
| 00:34 |
Exio |
see |
| 00:34 |
Exio |
you can know the country where PilzAdam lives |
| 00:34 |
PilzAdam |
Germany \o/ |
| 00:34 |
Exio |
the geolocation will throw a city at like 500km away of where he is |
| 00:34 |
PilzAdam |
<- IP tracker |
| 00:34 |
Jordach |
mailto:PilzAdam 77-21-146-86-dynip.superkabel.de can be traced down to 10m |
| 00:35 |
Exio |
mailto:? lol |
| 00:35 |
PilzAdam |
sure? |
| 00:35 |
Exio |
Jordach: who told that to you? your parents? lol |
| 00:35 |
Jordach |
if i know the exact locations and ping times of three servers that PilzAdam uses |
| 00:35 |
Jordach |
i can then total the distance |
| 00:36 |
Jordach |
through triangulation + speed / time = distance |
| 00:36 |
Exio |
the ping times can't mean a lot in a normal network usage |
| 00:36 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, no, you know the location of the next node to me |
| 00:37 |
PilzAdam |
wich is, in my case, pretty far away |
| 00:37 |
Jordach |
which* |
| 00:37 |
Exio |
btw, if you want to know where PilzAdam lives |
| 00:37 |
Exio |
http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2443 |
| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
no, wich |
| 00:37 |
Exio |
From: Germany |
| 00:37 |
NekoGloop |
say it with a french accent |
| 00:37 |
Jordach |
weeche |
| 00:37 |
PilzAdam |
Note: next time the germans invade britain: change which to wich |
| 00:38 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, we're ready |
| 00:38 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
| 00:38 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/wACtf.gif |
| 00:38 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 00:42 |
PilzAdam |
LOL |
| 00:42 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, yeah |
| 00:43 |
Jordach |
i often lol at that one |
| 00:43 |
PilzAdam |
that last jeep part reminds me to empty BF3 servers... |
| 00:43 |
Jordach |
yeah |
| 00:43 |
Jordach |
whee! |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
plot twist: they're playing BF4 |
| 00:43 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 00:43 |
* PilzAdam |
decided to not buy BF4 |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
oh it's a thing |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
then BF5 |
| 00:44 |
* Jordach |
buys PilzAdam BF4 |
| 00:44 |
Jordach |
on PS4 |
| 00:44 |
PilzAdam |
if EA stops being an idiot |
| 00:44 |
Jordach |
LOL; SimCity |
| 00:44 |
Jordach |
i still play SC 2000 |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
starcraft 2000 |
| 00:45 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, simcity |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
I know |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
how long have they worked on starcraft 3? |
| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
Starcraft 2000 ETA: NaN |
| 00:48 |
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| 00:48 |
blakeman1 |
hello, im new. how do i join a server? |
| 00:48 |
PilzAdam |
blakeman1, a Minetest server? |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
just sign on. |
| 00:48 |
blakeman1 |
yes |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
pick a server, pick a user name and make up a password. |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
find the server's thread on the minetest forum if there is now and read the server's rules. |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
that's about it usually. |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
if there is one* |
| 00:49 |
blakeman1 |
last time when i tried to connect to yours, it said invalid password |
| 00:50 |
PilzAdam |
blakeman1, the basic concept is to just type in the IP and port, no registration is required (in fact, the first login is a registration, so you can enter a password) |
| 00:50 |
blakeman1 |
plus when i try to join, it stops mid-way on loading "Media..." |
| 00:50 |
PilzAdam |
some servers, like VanessaE's, force users to set a password at first connect |
| 00:51 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt stop at "Media", it just takes long to download all the mods from the server |
| 00:51 |
blakeman1 |
the log is saying "could not load mesh" |
| 00:51 |
PilzAdam |
thats normal |
| 00:51 |
blakeman1 |
ive g2g, ill come back later |
| 00:51 |
blakeman1 |
thx |
| 00:52 |
StarBlessed |
Hey guys... I was thinking... To speed up everyone's logins... Would it be worthwhile setting up a global http server that houses all the media files for mods etc? That way everyone who is setting up a Minetest server can just point their conf file at the global server. |
| 00:53 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, I already suggested that |
| 00:53 |
PilzAdam |
we just need a host |
| 00:53 |
StarBlessed |
Oh... Well... I have the bandwidth... |
| 00:54 |
PilzAdam |
that would be a great conribution to the community! |
| 00:54 |
PilzAdam |
+t |
| 00:54 |
StarBlessed |
Ok :D |
| 00:54 |
StarBlessed |
Perhaps i can set up FTP access for the mod devs to upload their content. That way they can update as required. |
| 00:54 |
PilzAdam |
someone just needs to collect all the media files of _all_ the mods on the forums |
| 00:54 |
Jordach |
but you've got to be sure that the media updates everytime the mod changes textures |
| 00:55 |
Jordach |
so i could create a new wool mod relacement |
| 00:55 |
Jordach |
which is no longer needed in 0,4,7 |
| 00:55 |
PilzAdam |
filename conflicts needs to be resolved somehow |
| 00:55 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, you know why wool white + dye = dyedwool + 16 nodes |
| 00:55 |
StarBlessed |
What if... I setup a git hub so everyone developing mods could upload there, then setup an automated script to pull all the media across to the http server? |
| 00:56 |
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| 00:56 |
Jordach |
wool was meant for pixel art |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
and jordan4ibanez can attest to that |
| 00:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have no opinion. |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
(with colour_blocks) |
| 00:56 |
PilzAdam |
hey jordan |
| 00:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hello. |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, remember the infinity server |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
(the first one) |
| 00:57 |
StarBlessed |
Hmmmm... Thats probably a little over complicated though... |
| 00:57 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, the problem is that if you want to pull request your files in you have to clone the repo with all the media files |
| 00:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yeah. |
| 00:57 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, dont ever use four mmmm's at once |
| 00:57 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, you used colour_blocks textured as wool right |
| 00:57 |
Jordach |
(with an old MC4MT) |
| 00:57 |
StarBlessed |
Jordach: 3 mmm's ok? |
| 00:58 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, yes because hmmmm is the core dev |
| 00:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
I used it for a lot of things. |
| 00:58 |
* StarBlessed |
grins |
| 00:58 |
StarBlessed |
ok |
| 00:58 |
Jordach |
but its job was pixel art |
| 00:58 |
Jordach |
as seen with city build 1 |
| 00:58 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, a forum topic would be too much work for you, I guess |
| 00:59 |
Jordach |
iirc, bash scripts can copy files with certain file extensions |
| 00:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
What is the server with the most users now? |
| 00:59 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, wazuclan / linuxgaming |
| 00:59 |
StarBlessed |
Sorry, after being made redundant last week, I've been a little slack on it. I'm stressing out bad over not working |
| 00:59 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, look at http://minetest.net/servers |
| 00:59 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, sorry to hear |
| 01:00 |
StarBlessed |
Its ok. Thanks Jordach. My wife and I are a little scared of what it all means. You know, income etc. But we've decided to go it alone and start a business. |
| 01:01 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, you own a VPS |
| 01:01 |
Jordach |
make use of it |
| 01:01 |
StarBlessed |
I own a Dedicated Server. But selling VPS space isnt very popular over here. |
| 01:01 |
StarBlessed |
It'd be a great way to pay for the server if anyone was interested in it though |
| 01:02 |
StarBlessed |
I've been woking on setting up the business. Here : www.viewskew.com |
| 01:03 |
StarBlessed |
There's always that little voice in the back of your mind that says "You're worthless. You're going to fail" |
| 01:03 |
Jordach |
twss |
| 01:04 |
StarBlessed |
:P |
| 01:05 |
Jordach |
i hate it when i close the spotify web player by mistake |
| 01:05 |
StarBlessed |
LOL! So what would you suggest I do with the VPS Jordach ? |
| 01:05 |
Jordach |
mine btc |
| 01:05 |
Jordach |
on spare nodes |
| 01:06 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, the good thing with humans is that they are _very_ flexible, they are never "useless" |
| 01:06 |
PilzAdam |
(unlike e.g. MinetestBot) |
| 01:06 |
MinetestBot |
:-( |
| 01:06 |
* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
| 01:06 |
Jordach |
she need love too! |
| 01:07 |
MinetestBot |
*sniff* |
| 01:07 |
Jordach |
we treat her like shes worthless |
| 01:07 |
StarBlessed |
lol @ PilzAdam. I thought about mining BTC Jordach, but the amount I would get out of it equates to about 1USD per month |
| 01:07 |
NekoGloop |
StarBlessed, but it's still money. |
| 01:07 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ 1 hour |
| 01:07 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop's got a point |
| 01:08 |
NekoGloop |
more than I make |
| 01:08 |
PilzAdam |
"THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGART" |
| 01:08 |
StarBlessed |
Ummm... yes... But the power to run it would be worth about $60 per month... |
| 01:08 |
StarBlessed |
I'd be making a net gain of -$59 |
| 01:08 |
StarBlessed |
lol |
| 01:09 |
NekoGloop |
more than i make |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
[22:07:10] <StarBlessed> lol @ PilzAdam. I thought about mining BTC Jordach, but the amount I would get out of it equates to about 1USD per month |
| 01:10 |
Exio |
mine LTC with performance/powerusage cpus |
| 01:10 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, re the media server: what about a simple upload web interface? |
| 01:10 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, with registration for some people of the community |
| 01:10 |
Jordach |
i could spend the day putting files together |
| 01:11 |
Jordach |
and then batch uploading zipballs |
| 01:12 |
StarBlessed |
Exio: BTC mining is not worth while without an ASIC chip or multiple high power GFX cards. Neither of which I can afford. |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE only needs ti write a simple script and we have 90% if all modes covered |
| 01:12 |
Exio |
StarBlessed: that is why i said LTC |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
*to |
| 01:12 |
StarBlessed |
PilzAdam: Possible... I'll have to investigate it. The biggest problem is all the media has to be in a single folder |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, best solution would be if it had .zip support |
| 01:12 |
StarBlessed |
Exio: Sorry missed that. LTC would be ok, but very quickly the difficulty will put it out of range. |
| 01:13 |
StarBlessed |
Ok PilzAdam, Ill have a look around. |
| 01:13 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, for texture pack makers |
| 01:13 |
StarBlessed |
Yup, understood. |
| 01:13 |
Jordach |
it would be nice to download every file at once |
| 01:13 |
Jordach |
as a zipball like github |
| 01:13 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, you have a 3ds |
| 01:13 |
NekoGloop |
yes |
| 01:13 |
Jordach |
cant wait for smash bros |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
on 3ds |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
yep, but at least mining LTC with a high-end GPU works faster as a high-end CPU :P |
| 01:14 |
* NekoGloop |
would prefer wii U but lol no has wii U |
| 01:14 |
PilzAdam |
1 hour 10 minutes, have to go now, its too late :-/ |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
the WiiU is an iPad with Nintendo on it |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
script? |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
StarBlessed: i actually use a cpuminer for checking if my overclocking is stable and so :P |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
s/a // |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:15 |
StarBlessed |
LOL! ok Exio |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
i don't mine bitcoin or litecoin though |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
but the cpuminer is good for benchmarks |
| 01:17 |
StarBlessed |
Question, in the server conf file, can you specify more than a single path for media files? |
| 01:17 |
Exio |
i don't think so |
| 01:18 |
StarBlessed |
Damn... That makes things difficult. |
| 01:23 |
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| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
litecoin? |
| 01:23 |
blakeman1 |
im back |
| 01:23 |
blakeman1 |
:) |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
I've heard that one before but no idea what good it is. |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
may as well be Flooz. :P |
| 01:24 |
blakeman1 |
its this just like minecraft? |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
blakeman1: no. minetest is similar but definitely not "just like" |
| 01:24 |
Exio |
but we are 100% more cooler |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
and I hope to G*d it never becomes "just like" it either. |
| 01:24 |
blakeman1 |
thats what i mean by |
| 01:25 |
blakeman1 |
SWEET! a sphax texturepack! |
| 01:25 |
blakeman1 |
VanessaE: are you a dev? |
| 01:26 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 01:27 |
kahrl |
if minetest was just like minecraft it would crash with a stack overflow exception when you punch a big connected area of floating snow |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
no and never will be |
| 01:27 |
blakeman1 |
oh, she (username sounds like a woman) has a texturepack and a few servers, so i just assumed |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
OMG OMG OMG OMG |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
she yes; one server, several mods, a few texture packs |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97225#p97225 |
| 01:28 |
blakeman1 |
i cant belive sphax supports this game |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
kahrl, HAHA |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: that's on my server. |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
ikr |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
I installed it earlier, it works fairly well |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
its just... |
| 01:28 |
Jordach |
fucking awesome |
| 01:29 |
blakeman1 |
what does that do |
| 01:29 |
Jordach |
adds 3d tools, ala mc |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
blakeman1: wielded tools. |
| 01:29 |
Jordach |
(eg, anyone can see your wielded tool) |
| 01:29 |
Jordach |
ninja'd |
| 01:30 |
blakeman1 |
client or server side? |
| 01:30 |
Jordach |
serverside |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
Jordach: you got ninja'd |
| 01:30 |
blakeman1 |
so its a plugin? i cant install it onto my client or anything |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
blakeman1: all mods are server-sidely here |
| 01:30 |
Jordach |
no |
| 01:30 |
Jordach |
the client downloads the mods from the sevrer |
| 01:30 |
Jordach |
server* |
| 01:30 |
blakeman1 |
ook |
| 01:30 |
blakeman1 |
like plugins |
| 01:30 |
Jordach |
and renders them to the screen |
| 01:31 |
Jordach |
we do not use the word plugins |
| 01:31 |
blakeman1 |
sorry |
| 01:31 |
Jordach |
this isnt MC |
| 01:31 |
blakeman1 |
mod = plugins? |
| 01:31 |
blakeman1 |
ik |
| 01:31 |
NekoGloop |
plugins plugins plugins plugins |
| 01:31 |
Exio |
plugmods :D |
| 01:31 |
blakeman1 |
PPPLLLUUGINS |
| 01:31 |
blakeman1 |
lol |
| 01:31 |
Exio |
Jordach: the client is more than that but well |
| 01:32 |
blakeman1 |
so why is there a tutorial to install a mod? |
| 01:32 |
Jordach |
plan b |
| 01:32 |
blakeman1 |
wait |
| 01:32 |
blakeman1 |
im stupid |
| 01:32 |
blakeman1 |
only works if YOU run a server |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
or single player mode. |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
(which runs a server anyway) |
| 01:33 |
Jordach |
but then no-one sees your tools |
| 01:33 |
blakeman1 |
singleplayer runs a internal? |
| 01:33 |
Exio |
yes |
| 01:33 |
blakeman1 |
kk |
| 01:33 |
Exio |
singleplayer is just a "tweaked-a-bit-and-autostarted server" + client autoconnecting :P |
| 01:34 |
blakeman1 |
what texturepack should i use? |
| 01:34 |
Jordach |
VanessaE's HDX |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
HDX of course. |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
haha |
| 01:34 |
Jordach |
ninja'd |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 01:34 |
blakeman1 |
XP |
| 01:34 |
Jordach |
i win this round |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
i actually don't like very-"real" TPs for a blocky game but :P |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
pick a resolution (16 to 512px) appropriate for your hardware. |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
VanessaE: when are you going to release the 1024x version? |
| 01:35 |
blakeman1 |
16x is the lowest? |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
blakeman1: yeah |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
blakeman1: HDX? yes |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
Exio: never, |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
but MT supports lower text sizes |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
VanessaE: aww, why not? >:D |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
MT can barely even handle the 256px size and the 512px size is almost useless now |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
it'll never handle a 1024px size. |
| 01:36 |
blakeman1 |
is 256x CPU intensive? |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
i would remove the "never" VanessaE |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
blakeman1: ram intensive |
| 01:36 |
blakeman1 |
that |
| 01:37 |
blakeman1 |
yeah |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
256px needs about 2GB of RAM to run comfortably and a decent video card. |
| 01:37 |
blakeman1 |
when i say my graphics card is s***, ITS S*** |
| 01:37 |
blakeman1 |
cant even run MC |
| 01:38 |
Exio |
blakeman1: what gpu? some old igp? |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
if it's that bad, you should stick to the lowest resolution or don't use HDX. it's too intensive for low-end hardware. |
| 01:38 |
blakeman1 |
sorry, gpu is...? |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
your graphics card. |
| 01:38 |
blakeman1 |
ATI Radeon 3000 |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
oh my |
| 01:38 |
blakeman1 |
yeah... i know... |
| 01:39 |
blakeman1 |
Van, are you on your server right now? |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
no but I can sign on if you need me to |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
i'm pretty sure her server will kill your GPU, CPU, RAM, mobo and family ^^ |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
s/and family// |
| 01:40 |
NekoGloop |
you all need a bot that does that for you |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
now i'm going to sleep |
| 01:40 |
blakeman1 |
Jordach: Nice MC texture pack |
| 01:41 |
blakeman1 |
good night |
| 01:41 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, its broken though] |
| 01:41 |
Exio |
night! :P |
| 01:41 |
Jordach |
and i lost the source files |
| 01:41 |
blakeman1 |
oh... |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
blakeman1: I'm there now. |
| 01:41 |
Jordach |
calinou can pick up the pieces |
| 01:41 |
Jordach |
i aint no more |
| 01:41 |
blakeman1 |
oh, i was just wondering VanessaE |
| 01:42 |
blakeman1 |
what about custom skins? |
| 01:42 |
blakeman1 |
can people have different ones on servers? |
| 01:42 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, only on VanessaE's server |
| 01:42 |
blakeman1 |
oh |
| 01:43 |
Jordach |
and other servers with skin changing mods or skins mod |
| 01:43 |
Jordach |
but generally you get sam: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Player |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 01:43 |
blakeman1 |
bye |
| 01:44 |
NekoGloop |
ohey, a loading bar |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
interact granted, blakeman1. |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 01:44 |
Jordach |
small edit to player on mt wiki: The official name given for the player's appearance is Sam, which is an acronym for Sam ain't Minecraft. |
| 01:44 |
blakeman1 |
are they the same pixels by pixels as MC? |
| 01:44 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 01:45 |
Jordach |
16x |
| 01:45 |
blakeman1 |
can i use my MC format? |
| 01:45 |
Jordach |
no |
| 01:45 |
Jordach |
we dont use it |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
with the 1.5 you just need to change names and stuff |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
shut up jordach |
| 01:45 |
Jordach |
they stole our ida |
| 01:45 |
Jordach |
idea* |
| 01:45 |
blakeman1 |
what? |
| 01:46 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, we just put texture files in minetest/textures/all/ directory with NO FOLDERS. |
| 01:46 |
Jordach |
provided the texture names are the same as the ones on the server, the world will appear different for you. |
| 01:46 |
blakeman1 |
what do we save it as? |
| 01:46 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, we dont support zip folder texture packs |
| 01:47 |
Jordach |
i really need to write this faq |
| 01:47 |
kahrl |
btw ignore http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Skin as it's talking about the old 2-D player sprite |
| 01:47 |
blakeman1 |
what extension then? |
| 01:47 |
Exio |
# Path to texture directory. All textures are first searched from here. |
| 01:47 |
Exio |
#texture_path = |
| 01:47 |
Exio |
Jordach: ^ |
| 01:47 |
Jordach |
doesnt count folders Exio |
| 01:47 |
Jordach |
it just changes the /textures/all folder's location in relation to minetest |
| 01:48 |
blakeman1 |
so the Wiki is false? |
| 01:48 |
Exio |
blakeman1: outdated |
| 01:48 |
blakeman1 |
you guys should update it |
| 01:48 |
Jordach |
honestly, i should write the faq that i have been thinking about |
| 01:48 |
blakeman1 |
when was the last minetest update? |
| 01:48 |
Jordach |
about few weeks ago |
| 01:48 |
Exio |
a bit ago |
| 01:49 |
blakeman1 |
still being worked on? |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
if you wonder the changes, http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
if you want to know if MT is dead or not, check the commit log and the hours https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master |
| 01:50 |
blakeman1 |
thanks |
| 01:51 |
blakeman1 |
is default 16x? |
| 01:51 |
Exio |
yep |
| 01:51 |
blakeman1 |
i would gess default port is 30000? |
| 01:51 |
blakeman1 |
*guess |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
why yes, yes it is |
| 01:52 |
blakeman1 |
:) |
| 01:52 |
blakeman1 |
Jordach, you on a server? |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
writing the faq sounds better and better the more i think about it |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, no |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
minetest plays like crap on latops |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
laptops* |
| 01:52 |
blakeman1 |
i could give you some questions |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
(cant play with a touchpad) |
| 01:52 |
Jordach |
sure, fire away....provided i dont pass out (2:52 AM here) |
| 01:53 |
Exio |
Jordach: why plays like crap? |
| 01:53 |
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| 01:53 |
Jordach |
because i cant mine for shit on a touchpad |
| 01:53 |
Jordach |
its like pissing with a hard on. |
| 01:53 |
Jordach |
very hard. |
| 01:53 |
blakeman1 |
followed... |
| 01:53 |
* Jordach |
giggles |
| 01:54 |
Jordach |
sleep deprivation = /me crazy |
| 01:55 |
NekoGloop |
so apparently there's a new damage system for entities? |
| 01:55 |
blakeman1 |
jordach, you should make a Beginner FAQ and a Technical FAQ |
| 01:55 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, yes |
| 01:55 |
Jordach |
blakeman1, ugh - it's been sitting on my Google Drive for a month now |
| 01:55 |
Jordach |
havent had the incentive to do it until 10 mins ago |
| 01:55 |
Jordach |
and im tired + i prefer doing it in word |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
which isnt on this laptop |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
the technical faq is called the dev.minetest.net |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
prefix http:// to it |
| 01:56 |
Jordach |
and there you go |
| 01:57 |
blakeman1 |
trying to join vanessa's server and its been stuck 2/3 for a while |
| 01:58 |
Exio |
it will take a .. bit |
| 01:58 |
Exio |
VanessaE's server contains a lot of stuff |
| 01:59 |
Exio |
but it will be the first time, only |
| 01:59 |
* NekoGloop |
wishes to know how to use this new damage system |
| 01:59 |
Exio |
it is documented |
| 02:00 |
Exio |
in the lua_api.txt and http://dev.minetest.net/Damage_system#New |
| 02:00 |
blakeman1 |
you guys have a nice community on the forums |
| 02:00 |
blakeman1 |
ever get spam a lot? |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
if it hasn't changed in half a year then yes |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
or, 1/4 |
| 02:01 |
Exio |
blakeman1: most of spam gets deleted very fast anyway |
| 02:02 |
Jordach |
ffs |
| 02:02 |
Jordach |
update to street |
| 02:02 |
Jordach |
pass plaza* |
| 02:02 |
Jordach |
im fucking off to bed now |
| 02:03 |
blakeman1 |
bye |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
can't use wood as fuel what |
| 02:04 |
blakeman1 |
where do i save my skin at? |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
er, wait, im just derping |
| 02:05 |
blakeman1 |
... |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
2x2 microcontroller? That's a macrocontroller ;D |
| 02:09 |
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| 02:10 |
blakeman1 |
how long does it take to join vanessa's server? |
| 02:10 |
* arsdragonfly |
is looking through the chat log |
| 02:10 |
arsdragonfly |
IMHO it depends on your connection |
| 02:10 |
blakeman1 |
ping or download speed? |
| 02:11 |
arsdragonfly |
idk |
| 02:11 |
blakeman1 |
46 ms |
| 02:11 |
Exio |
i want those pings to everywhere |
| 02:11 |
blakeman1 |
27 mbps |
| 02:11 |
arsdragonfly |
WOW |
| 02:12 |
arsdragonfly |
>200ms when I try to join any server |
| 02:12 |
blakeman1 |
isp is comcastr |
| 02:12 |
blakeman1 |
*comcast |
| 02:13 |
blakeman1 |
the highest download ive ever gotten was like 42 mbps |
| 02:13 |
arsdragonfly |
Seems ppl fail to communicate well here a few hours ago |
| 02:13 |
* arsdragonfly |
never reached that speed :-( |
| 02:13 |
blakeman1 |
Vanessa's server its taking really long |
| 02:14 |
Exio |
blakeman1: MT is pretty slow when downloading with its own "protocol" |
| 02:14 |
Exio |
if VanessaE didn't refuse to use a httpd for serving the cache.. :P |
| 02:15 |
blakeman1 |
is "Could not load mesh, because file could not be opened: wield3d_character.x" ok? |
| 02:17 |
blakeman1 |
Exio |
| 02:17 |
Exio |
i guess? |
| 02:17 |
Exio |
i never used the wield3d mod |
| 02:18 |
blakeman1 |
do i need to install it? |
| 02:18 |
Exio |
nope |
| 02:18 |
Exio |
*all* the stuff gets downloaded from the server |
| 02:18 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: Yes, ignore that. |
| 02:18 |
Exio |
even the default game are mods blakeman1 :P |
| 02:18 |
blakeman1 |
her server takes a loooooooong time |
| 02:19 |
blakeman1 |
is the "Advanced" tab for running your own server? |
| 02:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Try mine. :-) |
| 02:19 |
blakeman1 |
your server? |
| 02:19 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: It works for that. But if you want a dedicated server you don't use that. |
| 02:20 |
blakeman1 |
dedicated means? |
| 02:20 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: See the serverlist. shadowninja.minetest.net |
| 02:20 |
blakeman1 |
kk |
| 02:20 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: One that you will keep up. Not just while you are playing. |
| 02:20 |
blakeman1 |
MT keeps crashing because of it not responding |
| 02:21 |
blakeman1 |
ok |
| 02:21 |
StarBlessed |
Ok... I think I have this Media Server sorted... |
| 02:22 |
StarBlessed |
With Zip support too |
| 02:22 |
blakeman1 |
now i cant play on a server |
| 02:22 |
blakeman1 |
when it loads images, it flashes super fast |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
you turned off preload item visuals didnt you |
| 02:23 |
blakeman1 |
i did one time but then i checked it again |
| 02:24 |
blakeman1 |
should i send you my .conf |
| 02:24 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: Keep it off. |
| 02:24 |
blakeman1 |
ok |
| 02:24 |
ShadowNinja |
It can easily double the load time. |
| 02:24 |
blakeman1 |
uh... shadow |
| 02:25 |
blakeman1 |
i joined your server without a password... |
| 02:25 |
blakeman1 |
what do i do? |
| 02:25 |
ShadowNinja |
That shouldn't be allowed... |
| 02:25 |
ShadowNinja |
Use an empty password? |
| 02:25 |
ShadowNinja |
I can reset it if you like. |
| 02:26 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: LuaVoxelManip: Fix minor bug with set_lighting, remove coordinate params for light and liquid updates 067888d549 2013-06-29T19:23:00-07:00 http://git.io/mzfSkw |
| 02:26 |
blakeman1 |
W00T |
| 02:26 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, so here we go. http://minetest.viewskew.com Username and password is : guest |
| 02:26 |
ShadowNinja |
And change your password soon. |
| 02:26 |
StarBlessed |
Cant upload as a guest, but let me know what you think of the interface etc |
| 02:26 |
blakeman1 |
what is this? |
| 02:26 |
Exio |
StarBlessed: is the main account "admin", and its password "admin"? ;P |
| 02:27 |
Exio |
blakeman1: this = ? |
| 02:27 |
StarBlessed |
LMAO! No Exio. You can try it though ;) |
| 02:27 |
StarBlessed |
blakeman1: It doesnt apply to you. |
| 02:28 |
blakeman1 |
D: |
| 02:28 |
blakeman1 |
anyone editing? |
| 02:29 |
StarBlessed |
What do you think Exio. Do you think it'll be sufficient? The path for the server conf is http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/ |
| 02:29 |
Exio |
i'll check now |
| 02:29 |
Exio |
was closing stuff |
| 02:29 |
Exio |
Oh, Javascript is disabled! |
| 02:29 |
Exio |
aww |
| 02:30 |
StarBlessed |
lol |
| 02:31 |
Exio |
where is the backdoor StarBlessed? |
| 02:31 |
StarBlessed |
Im sitting on it :P |
| 02:31 |
hacker |
lol |
| 02:31 |
Exio |
hacker is the best i ever had |
| 02:31 |
Exio |
s/best/best nick/ |
| 02:31 |
NekoGloop |
Exio, so the number input for the damage system is the damage dealt? |
| 02:32 |
StarBlessed |
Please dont attempt to break it... |
| 02:32 |
StarBlessed |
I have to go edit the PHP to allow for larger file uploads. |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
yes? |
| 02:32 |
StarBlessed |
Its only set to 8Mb for now |
| 02:32 |
Exio |
StarBlessed: i can't even break my own system! :P |
| 02:33 |
Exio |
NekoGloop: seems so? :D |
| 02:33 |
Exio |
k, now night for realz |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
nou |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
stay here with us forever |
| 02:33 |
* hacker |
bites NekoGloop |
| 02:33 |
* NekoGloop |
is infected with the virus |
| 02:34 |
hacker |
i hacked you! |
| 02:34 |
hacker |
;P |
| 02:34 |
StarBlessed |
BRB |
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| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
anyone feel like making mese/bronze/diamond versions of the two glooptest tools? :D |
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sokomine |
hmmmm: i tried to access/manipulate a 16x16x16 area with voxelmanipulator (just for testing). to my astonishment i got a 32x32x32 area |
| 03:00 |
sokomine |
hmmmm: in effect, i did vm:read_from_map( {x=0,y=0,z=0},{x=16,y=16,z=16}) |
| 03:02 |
hmmmm |
yup |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on hmmmm's head |
| 03:03 |
hmmmm |
why does that matter, though? |
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* StarBlessed |
puts a pony on NekoGloop's head |
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* NekoGloop |
squish |
| 03:03 |
sokomine |
it confuses me |
| 03:03 |
sokomine |
is there a point in it? |
| 03:03 |
sokomine |
shall i stick manually to a region of it? |
| 03:04 |
hmmmm |
because that's just the way it works out |
| 03:04 |
hmmmm |
yes, stick to your region that you requested |
| 03:04 |
sokomine |
ok *climbing back in that 16x16x16 region* |
| 03:05 |
StarBlessed |
Hey sokomine. Its great to see you using MediaGoblin. :D |
| 03:05 |
sokomine |
is there any pattern to it? anything special to expect? hm, perhaps those return values from read_from_map have a meaning? |
| 03:06 |
sokomine |
starblessed: thanks for it :-) it was a bit difficult to use in part - especially because it didn't show me the image immediately. but it worked out fine for the travelnet and the replacer mod. i didn't find the energy to do my cottages mod yet. that has a lot of images |
| 03:06 |
hmmmm |
yeah, maybe they do have a meaning .. |
| 03:07 |
sokomine |
starblessed: perhaps you ought to add a region for binary data? for those schems that will most likely soon be exchanged by people? they're a more compact format than worldedit export |
| 03:07 |
hmmmm |
if you're not using the VoxelArea class to simplify data array indexing, you really ought to be |
| 03:09 |
sokomine |
what i was trying for now was importing a very small minecraft classic map. the voxelmanipulator ought to be especially fine for that. for a start, i just translated the values |
| 03:09 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/mcconvert |
| 03:11 |
sokomine |
does that write the mapfile directly? |
| 03:11 |
hmmmm |
yup |
| 03:12 |
sokomine |
sounds helpful |
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StarBlessed |
Thanks sokomine, I might look into it. |
| 03:20 |
* blakeman1 |
slapped StarBlessed with a chicken strip |
| 03:20 |
* StarBlessed |
doesnt care |
| 03:20 |
* blakeman1 |
wanted to start a /me battle |
| 03:20 |
* blakeman1 |
is sad :( |
| 03:20 |
* NekoGloop |
places a kitten generator |
| 03:21 |
ImFabuloisBiatch |
:3 |
| 03:21 |
ImFabuloisBiatch |
i got dat makeup |
| 03:21 |
ImFabuloisBiatch |
and dat fashion |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
and dat ass |
| 03:22 |
blakeman1 |
hmmm. Notch is registered |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
there's a #minecraft |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
of course it's registered |
| 03:23 |
blakeman1 |
oh, yeah |
| 03:23 |
blakeman1 |
how do i register? |
| 03:23 |
NekoGloop |
magic |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
also it's stupid that we can't post non-derivative liscenced mods. |
| 03:24 |
blakeman1 |
guys, how do i register? |
| 03:24 |
* ShadowNinja |
disagrees. |
| 03:24 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: Same as on InchraNet. |
| 03:25 |
blakeman1 |
forgot XP |
| 03:25 |
NekoGloop |
Allow freedom of liscence, not enforcement of open-source |
| 03:26 |
ShadowNinja |
blakeman1: /ns help register |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, you can post -ND mods in the forum |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
you are free to do so |
| 03:27 |
kaeza |
(it won't be moved to releases tho') |
| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
and then get hate from everyone because "lol forum rulez read dem" |
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| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
Yes. And that's the stupid decision part. |
| 03:27 |
blakeman1 |
hey jordan |
| 03:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hello. |
| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
It could be the best freakin mod in all of minetest. But if it's closed source or noderivs, then you can't have it be a "released" mod. |
| 03:29 |
NekoGloop |
hello jordan4ibanez. |
| 03:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hi NekoGloop. |
| 03:30 |
* NekoGloop |
gives jordan4ibanez a cookie |
| 03:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Thank you. |
| 03:31 |
NekoGloop |
welcome =3 |
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NekoGloop |
Is max_drop_level employed anywhere yet? |
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deasanta |
was max_drop_level prepeared to work for minimum wages? :) |
| 03:42 |
NekoGloop |
I'm sure it would love to be put to work |
| 03:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Heh. |
| 03:43 |
deasanta |
question - anyone know how the new 3d player model is updated or needs to be updated when attaching the player to an entity such as a boat? |
| 03:43 |
deasanta |
used to work with pilzadams boats but not with new default |
| 03:43 |
deasanta |
player is not updated and stays behind |
| 03:45 |
* NekoGloop |
muses to self: glooptest is updated and functioning totally, hopefully, in 0.4.7 |
| 03:45 |
ShadowNinja |
Good question to nudge PilzAdam with. |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on RealBadangel's head |
| 03:50 |
RealBadangel |
hi NekoGloop |
| 03:51 |
NekoGloop |
sup |
| 03:52 |
RealBadangel |
nothin special, updating repositories now |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
cool |
| 03:52 |
RealBadangel |
technic indev and master is now synced in technic_game |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
speaking of updating repos, glooptest tools deal damage in 0.4.7 now |
| 03:53 |
kaeza |
hey RealBadangel |
| 03:53 |
RealBadangel |
hi kaeza |
| 03:54 |
kaeza |
how's it going? |
| 03:54 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest Meow |
| 03:54 |
RealBadangel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game |
| 03:54 |
RealBadangel |
kaeza, pretty much to do |
| 03:55 |
* kaeza |
clones both |
| 03:55 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 03:56 |
NekoGloop |
don't start using mine yet; I'm addin new worldgen soon |
| 03:56 |
NekoGloop |
soon as in within the week |
| 03:56 |
RealBadangel |
note that now technic now comes as a game, with all the mods needed to run |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
this is going to kill my bandwidth -.- |
| 03:57 |
NekoGloop |
you can ignore mine for now; as i said, new worldgen soon, best to let it all generate the same |
| 03:57 |
kaeza |
k |
| 03:58 |
NekoGloop |
ehwot |
| 03:58 |
NekoGloop |
I already have bronze tool texture wut |
| 03:58 |
RealBadangel |
so, the creative mod is removed from here, also there will be lotsa changes to default mods |
| 03:58 |
kaeza |
RealBadangel, it's interesting that the entire technic_game repo is way smaller than technic modpack alone |
| 03:58 |
kaeza |
stupid git history |
| 03:59 |
RealBadangel |
speaking of which, who knows wheres proper lava cooling code? |
| 04:00 |
NekoGloop |
not that anyone was speaking of that |
| 04:00 |
RealBadangel |
kaeza, i will provide also simple zip download from my server, so git will be used only by contributors |
| 04:00 |
RealBadangel |
i know that theres somwhere better one than that by PA |
| 04:00 |
kaeza |
it's better for me to use git |
| 04:01 |
kaeza |
less to download in case of updates |
| 04:01 |
kaeza |
BTW: 00:59:28: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "bucharest_tree.png" |
| 04:01 |
RealBadangel |
ah yes, i have to remove it |
| 04:01 |
RealBadangel |
i dont even know what that bucharest tree is |
| 04:01 |
RealBadangel |
it came with cnc code |
| 04:02 |
StarBlessed |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97314#p97314 |
| 04:03 |
kaeza |
StarBlessed, nice |
| 04:03 |
StarBlessed |
I cant help much, but ill do what i can. |
| 04:04 |
StarBlessed |
Been feelin a bit guilty for not getting back to the videos. |
| 04:04 |
StarBlessed |
Ill get there though |
| 04:05 |
RealBadangel |
kaeza, fixed |
| 04:07 |
RealBadangel |
i can see sphax texture pack now supports technic, nice |
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* NekoGloop |
wonders if anyone ever used hammers to mine stone... |
| 04:15 |
NekoGloop |
or even at all. |
| 04:15 |
kaeza |
RealBadangel, pulled |
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Bolt473 |
How do I register |
| 04:19 |
StarBlessed |
Register what Bolt473 ? |
| 04:19 |
Bolt473 |
my nickname |
| 04:19 |
StarBlessed |
On IRC? |
| 04:19 |
StarBlessed |
You dont need to register for Minetest |
| 04:19 |
StarBlessed |
Unless you want to post in the forums |
| 04:20 |
Bolt473 |
nvm figured it our |
| 04:20 |
Bolt473 |
*out |
| 04:21 |
StarBlessed |
k |
| 04:22 |
Bolt473 |
I wanted to register my IRC nickname |
| 04:22 |
NekoGloop |
magic |
| 04:23 |
NekoGloop |
also yay bronze, mese, and diamond support in glooptest |
| 04:24 |
RealBadangel |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6412 |
| 04:24 |
NekoGloop |
moonflower? |
| 04:25 |
NekoGloop |
:O |
| 04:25 |
RealBadangel |
yup, by Taoki. it glows at night |
| 04:25 |
NekoGloop |
huh, cool |
| 04:25 |
RealBadangel |
and will be a source for glowing dye |
| 04:25 |
NekoGloop |
does it visibly bloom as well? |
| 04:25 |
RealBadangel |
and thus way to craft any glowing nodes |
| 04:26 |
RealBadangel |
it opens at night and starts to glow |
| 04:26 |
NekoGloop |
cool |
| 04:27 |
RealBadangel |
she had pretty original idea |
| 04:27 |
NekoGloop |
actually I've seen that before xD |
| 04:28 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/ProjectZulu/Project-Zulu/wiki/Night-Bloom |
| 04:35 |
RealBadangel |
way at least original in minetest :) |
| 04:35 |
RealBadangel |
i mean something new |
| 04:40 |
RealBadangel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game/commit/9a55a0e4d31041a5d78685253fb5dd4aa21e7fd4 |
| 04:41 |
RealBadangel |
at least :) |
| 04:46 |
RealBadangel |
btw, kaeaza, try now wooden chests and regular furnace |
| 04:47 |
RealBadangel |
but place on the ground new ones |
| 04:56 |
kaeza |
what about them? |
| 04:58 |
RealBadangel |
theyre using now UI's theme |
| 04:59 |
StarBlessed |
Updated with a list of supported Mods : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97325#p97325 |
| 04:59 |
RealBadangel |
http://i.imgur.com/sgvm1QJ.jpg |
| 05:00 |
RealBadangel |
StarBlessed, technic_master gonna merge indev changes in a few minutes |
| 05:01 |
StarBlessed |
So re add it? |
| 05:01 |
RealBadangel |
hold on for update |
| 05:01 |
StarBlessed |
Ok |
| 05:01 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadangel, do you have a menu setup? :O |
| 05:02 |
StarBlessed |
Do you think thats enough support for now though? |
| 05:02 |
StarBlessed |
The top mods in the "popular" section.. |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
RealBadangel, ah, nice |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
didn't notice that :P |
| 05:03 |
NekoGloop |
StarBlessed, sure |
| 05:03 |
kaeza |
so they are texturable? |
| 05:03 |
RealBadangel |
i will make all the formspecs to be this style |
| 05:06 |
RealBadangel |
technic_game definitely wont follow minimalism of minetest_game |
| 05:07 |
NekoGloop |
So I'm assuming that if I wanna play with any other mods, I can't play with technic |
| 05:07 |
RealBadangel |
why not? |
| 05:08 |
NekoGloop |
because fuck how gamemodes and mods work |
| 05:08 |
RealBadangel |
put the extra mods into game's folder and solved |
| 05:09 |
RealBadangel |
no need to configure them even |
| 05:13 |
RealBadangel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/commit/8e03d7ded6441b26e9d44102c0cd2ee39f9e90bc |
| 05:13 |
RealBadangel |
technic_master is also synced now |
| 05:14 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, thanks |
| 05:16 |
NekoGloop |
I, for one, do not like the new way of installing mods. |
| 05:16 |
RealBadangel |
NekoGloop, i dont think there are problems |
| 05:17 |
RealBadangel |
http://i.imgur.com/QjwmLqM.jpg |
| 05:17 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, but EVERY MOD IS DISABLED BY DEFAULT |
| 05:17 |
NekoGloop |
and you have to enable every individual one per-world |
| 05:18 |
RealBadangel |
yeah, some may not like it |
| 05:18 |
RealBadangel |
solution for it is, as i said, putting the mods into game's folder |
| 05:19 |
RealBadangel |
game's mods dont have to be configured at all |
| 05:19 |
NekoGloop |
which is stupid |
| 05:19 |
NekoGloop |
Just enable them by default, and let us disable individual ones. |
| 05:20 |
RealBadangel |
you are propably right, that could be more comfortable |
| 05:21 |
ShadowNinja |
^ I agree. |
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Guest78396 |
hello! |
| 05:22 |
* NekoGloop |
wonders if there's an on_rightclick for items yet, and if it works nicely |
| 05:22 |
Guest78396 |
stupid guest |
| 05:23 |
Guest78396 |
/nick blakeman1 |
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blakeman1 |
test |
| 05:24 |
blakeman1 |
there we go |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 05:48 |
blakeman1 |
wb VanessaE |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
| 05:51 |
deasanta |
hi |
| 05:51 |
ShadowNinja |
I fixed nick changing tracking with auto-sleep. Now I slezz... |
| 05:51 |
blakeman1 |
hello |
| 05:55 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Vanessa's head |
| 05:55 |
* VanessaE |
pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile. |
| 05:55 |
NekoGloop |
Paramat... How does this guy.... What... I don't even... *head explodes* |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
yeah, he's THAT good. |
| 06:05 |
NekoGloop |
also thaumtest :O |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
no idea what that is |
| 06:05 |
NekoGloop |
I do |
| 06:05 |
NekoGloop |
Trust me, if he implements HALF of the stuff from the MC mod he's basing it off of, you guys'll all love him eternally... |
| 06:06 |
NekoGloop |
it's a really cool mod |
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deasanta |
anyone here ever exorted a model from blender into minetest? i have an issue with 3ds but obj and x works fine. also any objections to using obj files for simple meshes? |
| 06:15 |
kaeza |
deasanta, if it's your mod, it's up to you what to use |
| 06:16 |
deasanta |
its supported by the engine but not sure if it works on a linux or mac yet |
| 06:16 |
deasanta |
tmx kazea |
| 06:16 |
kaeza |
np |
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| 06:30 |
kaeza |
"the answer is false (2+2x2 = 6 but ? has a value of 63 :-) )" <-- best troll answer |
| 06:31 |
RealBadangel |
deasanta, compile irrlicht examples and use meshviewer example to test imported models |
| 06:32 |
RealBadangel |
what will work in the example will also work in minetest |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: :D |
| 06:32 |
deasanta |
thanks readbadangel |
| 06:32 |
RealBadangel |
http://i.imgur.com/OapBLIO.jpg |
| 06:33 |
deasanta |
i've tested using minetest client on win32 and its working fine with obj which is slightly smaler than 3ds and a well known format |
| 06:33 |
deasanta |
lol 3d in voxel world |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
deasanta: that dwarf is an Irrlicht standard model |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
Minetest uses Irrlicht for its 3d system :) |
| 06:35 |
RealBadangel |
in fact you can use any meshes in minetest |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
RealBadangel: how goes the plans to make node meshes? |
| 06:35 |
deasanta |
yeah saw that - tnx - only thing is 3ds export does not work? obj and x seems fine - https://github.com/deasanta/minetest-deasanta/tree/master/PilzAdam-boats |
| 06:35 |
RealBadangel |
need to sort other things first |
| 06:35 |
deasanta |
using blender 2.67a on win32 |
| 06:36 |
deasanta |
did the bone/armature/vertex names groups as per minetest wiki |
| 06:36 |
deasanta |
but clients says unable to import :( |
| 06:36 |
RealBadangel |
im using .x models only |
| 06:37 |
deasanta |
size diff between obj and x - x is 10x bigger |
| 06:37 |
RealBadangel |
who cares? |
| 06:37 |
RealBadangel |
ram is cheap |
| 06:38 |
deasanta |
for somereason minetest is fast over short distance connections - im in new zealand and on fibre and it is fast but i have issues connecting to european connections - american ones are not too bad |
| 06:39 |
deasanta |
the way minetest loads these 20mb+ mods can take 2-3 minutes (if im lucky) but if it is in new zealand it willl only take a few seconds |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
deasanta: this is a known issue that no one wants to bother to fix except to tell the server owners to set up third-party external web servers to host the mods' media files. |
| 06:40 |
deasanta |
your stuff is hosted in the us isn't it ralbad? |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
RealBadangel is in Poland. |
| 06:40 |
deasanta |
srry was thinking of oldcoder |
| 06:40 |
StarBlessed |
Working on it VanessaE |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
StarBlessed: on what? |
| 06:41 |
StarBlessed |
A global media host that houses all the most common mods : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6411 |
| 06:41 |
VanessaE |
oh right, I saw that |
| 06:41 |
deasanta |
vanessae - i saw the conversation you had with pilzadam about it :) - can see your and his points on it. |
| 06:44 |
deasanta |
tnx vanessae / readbadangel / kaeza |
| 06:45 |
StarBlessed |
Ok RealBadangel - Updated with the latest media for technic-master |
| 06:45 |
deasanta |
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1389294/minetest/PilzAdam-boats-001.jpg |
| 06:46 |
RealBadangel |
StarBlessed, ok, thx |
| 06:46 |
StarBlessed |
Would you like an ID so you can just upload it yourself? It just overwrites your old content anyway |
| 06:47 |
StarBlessed |
In the future I mean |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
all my stuff's on github so keeping it in sync should be easy enough |
| 06:48 |
StarBlessed |
Im not too good at writing scripts Vanessa, but that can come in the future. I'd have to write a clone for every different git. |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
it's all those modders out there that just release their stuff as ZIP files that complicated things.. |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 06:49 |
StarBlessed |
Its just as easy to download a zip, destructure it for the media files and upload a zip. It can be extracted once its uploaded via the web interface. |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
the only other way to do it is to scrape the modding general and mod releases sections looking for downloadable files and do a mass extract-and-copy on everything you find |
| 06:59 |
StarBlessed |
LOL! DownThemAll! |
| 06:59 |
StarBlessed |
I'd have to setup a spider. |
| 06:59 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
of course G*d knows how much of that will end up out-of-date :) |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
(multiple links in a post, multiple forks, etc) |
| 07:10 |
StarBlessed |
Well, there's 10Gb of space, so it wont matter too much if there is overage. |
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| 07:38 |
StarBlessed |
GOT IT! |
| 07:39 |
StarBlessed |
I just wrote a script that will pull from every git I list! Then a second script will sort the media files and dump them in the Global folder! |
| 07:39 |
StarBlessed |
w00t! |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 07:39 |
StarBlessed |
Cron job every 24 hours and it will constantly be up to date |
| 07:39 |
StarBlessed |
Yay for bash! |
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| 07:51 |
StarBlessed |
Any suggestions for other mods to add? |
| 07:57 |
deasanta |
starblesses is https://github.com/PilzAdam/signs in there? |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
use homedecor's version :P |
| 08:00 |
deasanta |
ah - see it - tnx vanessae |
| 08:00 |
StarBlessed |
Hmmm... Well Heres a current list of added mods : http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/Temp/ |
| 08:00 |
StarBlessed |
It includes a pull for your mods Vanessa |
| 08:01 |
VanessaE |
cool :) |
| 08:01 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, so the list includes ONLY those with git repos. |
| 08:02 |
deasanta |
so if you use the media curl option then the engine will still send what is in the mods/../texture folders? so that you can mix curl and normal? |
| 08:03 |
deasanta |
remaining textures i mean |
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StarBlessed |
Ok, all done :) |
| 08:08 |
deasanta |
<StarBlessed> - can you include a optipng or crushpng on the folderin the bash script in case the last upload etc did not include that? |
| 08:08 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 08:09 |
StarBlessed |
deasanta: no. It is a compression optimizer. I have no interest in organizing that. Im only housing the media files for the mods. |
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StarBlessed |
The idea is to decrease login times for servers. The media files are direct copies from the git repo's. Im not going to alter them in any way. |
| 08:11 |
deasanta |
k - thought it may help to keep sizes small and run at the end of the script after the downloads... |
| 08:11 |
deasanta |
starblessed - tnx for hosting! |
| 08:11 |
StarBlessed |
The files should be optimized before they're uploaded to the git anyway. |
| 08:11 |
StarBlessed |
NP |
| 08:11 |
StarBlessed |
Hey Calinou |
| 08:12 |
deasanta |
yeah - if seens lots of mods with pngs in in that are not even used |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
newsflash: people still get excited about 6 year old hardware: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97316#p97316 |
| 08:13 |
StarBlessed |
Good on him. I game my son a 9 year old GP2X. He thinks its the best thing since I accidentally set fire to my face. |
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StarBlessed |
deasanta: thats up to the mod developer |
| 08:14 |
deasanta |
yup - agreed - and some take care and some are sloppy :) |
| 08:14 |
StarBlessed |
VanessaE: Ill check the file time stamps tomorrow to make sure they're updating daily. |
| 08:14 |
savedgames |
Do you like servers which add music to the game? Do you see it as a feature to add music to the base game or is that up to the server hosters, what mods they want to enable? |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 08:14 |
StarBlessed |
perhaps deasanta. But it doesnt matter. |
| 08:14 |
Calinou |
savedgames: I don't, at all |
| 08:15 |
Calinou |
just like sound-playing websites |
| 08:15 |
Calinou |
not to mention 90% of sounds provided by mods are way too loud |
| 08:15 |
savedgames |
Calinou, then I guess you will give good feedback on if a sound is good or not :) |
| 08:15 |
StarBlessed |
savedgames: I dont mind ambient sound, perhaps very subtle atmospheric music. But it has to be around 5 - 10% volume |
| 08:16 |
Calinou |
very subtle ambience is fine |
| 08:16 |
Calinou |
but it should be disableable |
| 08:16 |
StarBlessed |
Agreed. |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: and many mods' sounds depend on a feature in the engine that's busted anyway (and thus the sounds are either too loud or too quiet) |
| 08:16 |
StarBlessed |
Calinou: I added your git to the list as well |
| 08:16 |
deasanta |
ambience is good - i think the game could come with a defaullt wich a hoster may want to add to or override... |
| 08:18 |
StarBlessed |
Did I get all of yours VanessaE? |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
link? |
| 08:19 |
StarBlessed |
Oh, right. http://minetest.viewskew.com/Minetest_Media/Temp/ |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
you missed coloredwood (https://github.com/VanessaE/coloredwood), plantlife (https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife), gloopblocks (https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks), and moretrees (https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees) |
| 08:21 |
StarBlessed |
Ok. Do you want them all added? |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
may as well, people do seem to use them |
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VanessaE |
ok, I need to get to bed. |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
getting really tired now |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
| 08:24 |
blakeman1 |
goodnight |
| 08:24 |
StarBlessed |
Night |
| 08:24 |
bas080 |
Hey people. I was checking the api doc and noticed.... |
| 08:24 |
bas080 |
----- Schematic-type parameters |
| 08:24 |
bas080 |
is this for spawning nodes? |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
bas080: LuaVoxelManip was recently added |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
it allows spawning nodes quickly |
| 08:26 |
StarBlessed |
VanessaE's mods are all done now |
| 08:26 |
StarBlessed |
Calinou: are there any mods you'd like to see added? They have to be on git repos though |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
nah |
| 08:28 |
svuorela |
urgh. bed mod is buggy. added it to my skyblock game and when I laid in my bed, I fell thru :/ |
| 08:29 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 08:29 |
StarBlessed |
lol |
| 08:29 |
StarBlessed |
Ok. BBL |
| 08:29 |
StarBlessed |
See ya folks |
| 08:29 |
deasanta |
later |
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bas080 |
Calinou, thnx. I'll make sure to look into it. |
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Razoe |
Vanessa? |
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Razoe |
Its Razor |
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Jordach |
hello Taoki |
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Jordach |
:D |
| 09:23 |
Taoki |
hi |
| 09:27 |
Jordach |
when i read your post, it was gone midnight |
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Jordach |
hey StarBlessed |
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StarBlessed |
Bad Jordach. Naughty Jordach. Making me stop my gaming to come back to IRC :P |
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Jordach |
lol StarBlessed |
| 09:33 |
StarBlessed |
Im happy to set you up a server if you wanna run a Minetest instance bro. You can build till your hearts content ;) |
| 09:34 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, hand me ssh and i do the rest |
| 09:34 |
Jordach |
i've used it before |
| 09:34 |
Jordach |
with host1free |
| 09:34 |
StarBlessed |
Ok. Give me a few. |
| 09:34 |
Jordach |
sure |
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Jordach |
i prefer debian |
| 09:34 |
StarBlessed |
LOL! you'll get what youre given. :P |
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Jordach |
ikr |
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* Calinou |
gives Jordach a pony |
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* john_minetest |
gives Calinou an unicorn |
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BlockMen |
hi |
| 09:55 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 09:58 |
BlockMen |
Calinou, what do you think about this: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:BlockMen/ReworkedMain ? |
| 09:58 |
BlockMen |
mainly the colors |
| 10:00 |
* arsdragonfly |
got a new rig |
| 10:00 |
arsdragonfly |
Dualc |
| 10:00 |
Jordach |
Core* |
| 10:00 |
arsdragonfly |
*dual core,7600gt |
| 10:00 |
Jordach |
ninja'd |
| 10:01 |
StarBlessed |
Hand me down? |
| 10:03 |
arsdragonfly |
Anyone who can recommend a distro? |
| 10:03 |
Jordach |
arsdragonfly, mint |
| 10:03 |
Calinou |
arsdragonfly: lol |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
"new" rig? |
| 10:04 |
Jordach |
or arch, if you're feeling skilled |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
1) dual core is something 10 years old 2) a 7600GT is a 7 year old card |
| 10:04 |
arsdragonfly |
Lol a second handed one |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
very second handed one |
| 10:04 |
Jordach |
bullshit is intel duo core old |
| 10:04 |
arsdragonfly |
Got it from my brother |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
arsdragonfly: how much did you buy it |
| 10:04 |
Jordach |
it fits the pentium 4 socket |
| 10:04 |
arsdragonfly |
0$ |
| 10:04 |
Jordach |
and p4's were made up until 2007 |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
Jordach: aren't pentium 4s LGA478? |
| 10:04 |
Jordach |
775 |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
then C2Ds were 775? |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 10:05 |
StarBlessed |
both |
| 10:05 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i found one the other day |
| 10:05 |
StarBlessed |
P4's were both 478 and 755 |
| 10:05 |
Jordach |
but it was under 1.9ghz |
| 10:05 |
StarBlessed |
775 |
| 10:05 |
Jordach |
i want two cores above 2ghz |
| 10:05 |
* StarBlessed |
has 6 cores at 3.2 GHz |
| 10:06 |
Jordach |
full steam ahead |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
1155 master race |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
inb4 <StarBlessed> 2011 master race |
| 10:06 |
StarBlessed |
AM3+ Awesomeness |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 10:06 |
* arsdragonfly |
's dual core are @1.6ghz |
| 10:06 |
Jordach |
the two hardware titans, Calinou and StarBlessed battle it out |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
quad core with HT at 3.4ghz here :P |
| 10:07 |
StarBlessed |
I have a netbook with those specs... |
| 10:07 |
Calinou |
StarBlessed: few netbooks have dual core CPUs |
| 10:07 |
Calinou |
most of the time, it's a single core, sadly |
| 10:07 |
StarBlessed |
Calinou: It was a high end Sony. |
| 10:07 |
Jordach |
Calinou, intel centrino here |
| 10:07 |
StarBlessed |
11 incher |
| 10:08 |
Calinou |
Jordach: centrino isn't a CPU, it's intel wifi |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
but intel kept advertising it as if it was a CPU :P |
| 10:09 |
Jordach |
oh, im intel core2 |
| 10:09 |
StarBlessed |
Centrino was an instruction set built into the CPU that was 'supposed' to increase the WiFi speed... |
| 10:09 |
StarBlessed |
Sadly... it did the opposite. |
| 10:10 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/cLrBG2d.png |
| 10:10 |
StarBlessed |
slowing down the machine because of the badly written drivers/junk software from intel to make it work |
| 10:10 |
Calinou |
most of intel's software is junk, fact :P |
| 10:10 |
BlockMen |
is code from builtin executed same way like mods? |
| 10:10 |
Calinou |
except their linux driver, which is simple, but works |
| 10:11 |
StarBlessed |
Well... its Linux. |
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| 10:12 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/4Bf2VhA.jpg |
| 10:12 |
StarBlessed |
Jordach: http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/my-desktop/ |
| 10:13 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, you've got a smaller hdd than me |
| 10:13 |
arsdragonfly |
Jordach :what's the difference between mate and cinemanon? |
| 10:13 |
StarBlessed |
Mine is an SSD |
| 10:13 |
StarBlessed |
OCZ Vertex 4 |
| 10:13 |
arsdragonfly |
*cinnamon |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
lol, OCZ :P |
| 10:14 |
Jordach |
one looks better |
| 10:14 |
StarBlessed |
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. Cinnamon is a rewrite of Gnome3 to make it more simplistic and easier to use for a Gnome/XFCE user. |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5813442/ |
| 10:15 |
Calinou |
"Display Driver: vesa 2.3.2" :D |
| 10:15 |
StarBlessed |
dont make me pull out the big guns... |
| 10:15 |
StarBlessed |
LOL |
| 10:15 |
StarBlessed |
Question... Is this the geek equivalent of who has the bigger V8? Like Dick measuring? |
| 10:15 |
* Calinou |
is now in trackmania top 3000 |
| 10:15 |
Calinou |
2989th |
| 10:16 |
Calinou |
StarBlessed: well, yeah |
| 10:16 |
StarBlessed |
LOL! ok. I give up. Im better with Yo Momma lines. |
| 10:18 |
Jordach |
your mother was a trash compactor |
| 10:18 |
StarBlessed |
Alright, lets get off my momma, coz I just got off yours. |
| 10:18 |
Jordach |
lolololol |
| 10:20 |
StarBlessed |
Yo mama so stupid she thinks taco bell is a mexican phone company |
| 10:20 |
StarBlessed |
Yo Mama so fat her body mass index is measured in acres. |
| 10:21 |
StarBlessed |
Yo Mama's so nasty, I talked to her over the computer and she gave me a virus. |
| 10:21 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 10:21 |
Calinou |
yo mama tells you to stop making yo mama jokes |
| 10:21 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 10:21 |
StarBlessed |
Told you I was better at Yo momma lines |
| 10:21 |
* Calinou |
slaps StarBlessed using a "Increasing your wifi range using a unicorn - A practical guide" book |
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| 10:22 |
StarBlessed |
:P |
| 10:22 |
* StarBlessed |
wont bow to a /me war |
| 10:23 |
StarBlessed |
Calinou is just jealous of my "Yo Momma" skillz |
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Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97343#p97343 <= huh? |
| 10:28 |
Calinou |
I don't feel like making a MC4MT pack, but that's just me |
| 10:28 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i abandoned it a while back |
| 10:33 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, thats me folks. See ya later arsdragonfly; Calinou & Jordach :) |
| 10:33 |
StarBlessed |
Bye everyone else! |
| 10:33 |
deasanta |
later - thanks again |
| 10:33 |
StarBlessed |
NP |
| 10:33 |
StarBlessed |
:D |
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Jordach |
Taoki, screenshots you lazy pony |
| 11:12 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Finishing up o the sky colors, to add that purple / orange tint. I should be all ready until tonight |
| 11:12 |
Taoki |
BBL |
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* john_minetest |
has 142 unsorted and 12 sorted page (total 154!!!) bookmarks in firefox... |
| 11:13 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i sorted all 400+ bookmarks in an hour. your turn. |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:17 |
BlockMen |
hi |
| 11:17 |
deasanta |
hi |
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svuorela |
PilzAdam: you're behind the beds, right ? |
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deasanta |
pilzadam - i have a boat model for your boats mod but have a few questions about adding more boats - http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97330#p97330 |
| 11:24 |
deasanta |
anyone working on larger moving entites ? - http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1389294/minetest/testcaravel-low-quality-6mb-video.mp4 |
| 11:28 |
PilzAdam |
svuorela, wut? |
| 11:29 |
PilzAdam |
deasanta, Ill test that model later |
| 11:30 |
deasanta |
model - blender - made to look like blocks |
| 11:30 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam: are you involved the in the beds mod ? |
| 11:30 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 11:31 |
deasanta |
tnx - the issue i have is i think the new defalut/player 's position isn't updating when viewed from another player's screen |
| 11:31 |
deasanta |
the 3d player that is |
| 11:31 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam: I think I has found a bug. When I lie in my bed in my skyblock setup (with floor 1 block thick) I fall thru the floor when going to sleep |
| 11:31 |
PilzAdam |
yea, that happens sometimes |
| 11:33 |
deasanta |
better than falling from a skyblock :)) |
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svuorela |
woopsie. half my area burned. lava close to wood is a bad idea. |
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Calinou |
john_minetest: but today's ISPs are pushing TV through internet, so you need to bring your wifi-unicorn with you |
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* arsdragonfly |
is having a fucking hard time installing linux mint |
| 12:12 |
arsdragonfly |
seems it cannot boot from a usb disk no matter how I tune the bios |
| 12:12 |
arsdragonfly |
so I plugged my old hard disk -> boot with grub2 |
| 12:14 |
Calinou |
lol, can't even boot from USB |
| 12:14 |
Calinou |
it's 2013 :P |
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arsdragonfly |
believe it or not, my older rig could :-P |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
then it was more recent |
| 12:19 |
arsdragonfly |
it wasn't |
| 12:25 |
Calinou |
it had a better mobo then |
| 12:33 |
Exio |
arsdragonfly: i used plop for those cases |
| 12:34 |
Exio |
Calinou: the old mobo of my first desktop (2001 or 2003, i don't recall) wasn't able to boot from an usb key, but had options for that |
| 12:34 |
arsdragonfly |
Exio :what's that? |
| 12:35 |
Exio |
arsdragonfly: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html |
| 12:35 |
Exio |
USB boot without BIOS support (UHCI, OHCI and EHCI) |
| 12:35 |
Exio |
CD/DVD boot without BIOS support (IDE) |
| 12:36 |
Exio |
it is a like a "second-bios" :P |
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arsdragonfly |
oh ok |
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kaeza |
mornings |
| 12:48 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
Calinou, is there an option in moreblocks to disable facedir? |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
(for full blocks) |
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Zeg9 |
Hello ! |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
kaeza: wood_facedir = false |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
in mods/moreblocks/_config.txt |
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kaeza |
Calinou, ah thanks |
| 13:11 |
* john_minetest |
is watching Scrubs S06E06 for the thousandst time |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
s/scrubs/MLP |
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kaeza |
sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unterminated `s' command |
| 13:13 |
Calinou |
kaeza is the guy who tells people to finish their seds in our screwed up family |
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RealBadangel |
i made quite a few commits to technic today |
| 13:17 |
RealBadangel |
there are already quite a few machines with new formspecs |
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kaeza |
is the forcefield functional? |
| 13:21 |
* Calinou |
never used net booting |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
just USB drives, and a CD once |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
depends, CD-RW is rewritable |
| 13:22 |
iqualfragile |
pxe is wonderfull if you have to install lots of machines |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
my current desktop does not have a SD card reader or a DVD drive :P |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
but I have like 10 USB ports :P |
| 13:23 |
iqualfragile |
usualy computers without usb-booting have cd drives |
| 13:23 |
iqualfragile |
then you can just use plop |
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iqualfragile |
you can boot anything with plop, just burn it once |
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harrison |
plop plop fizz fizz |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
Exio begs to differ |
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iqualfragile |
i have used the mayday tileset untill now, trying out ironhand right now |
| 13:31 |
iqualfragile |
what you you usualy use? |
| 13:32 |
Exio |
[10:21:47] <john_minetest> CD is stupid because it is not rewritable like a USB stick. |
| 13:32 |
Exio |
i always had a CD with plop + my usb key :P |
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Exio |
if the bios supports usb boot, i used it, if not, i booted it with plop and started the second distro, or a light DE/WM (lxde or openbox) on it |
| 13:34 |
Ripper003 |
Hi everyone, how do I install minetest on a mac? |
| 13:34 |
Exio |
when i'm installing, i normally don't have network or so :P |
| 13:34 |
PilzAdam |
Ripper003, AFAIK there is no updated mac port |
| 13:35 |
Ripper003 |
PilzAdam: Oh it has to be ported? Well damn...if there was an easy way to compile the source code into an installable DMG I'd happily do it. |
| 13:35 |
Exio |
mainly because none of the core devs is rich |
| 13:36 |
Ripper003 |
Exio: I hardly call myself rich, I gots a mac mini with edu discount :P |
| 13:36 |
Exio |
how much was it? |
| 13:36 |
Ripper003 |
£496.80 |
| 13:36 |
iqualfragile |
Ripper003: there is a port, but is reeeealy outdated |
| 13:36 |
PilzAdam |
thats like 2 PS4s |
| 13:37 |
Ripper003 |
PilzAdam: True, but you can't play Minetest on a PS4 :P |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
it might be better to just install linux on it |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
you can! |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
it runns freebsd |
| 13:37 |
Exio |
isn't the PS4 the one with the amd cores? |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
& minetest runs on freebnsd |
| 13:37 |
Ripper003 |
iqualfragile: Yes I've tried before, wifi card is a bitch though |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
bootcamp? |
| 13:37 |
Ripper003 |
No windows disc |
| 13:37 |
iqualfragile |
or however they call it |
| 13:38 |
iqualfragile |
cant you use it to start linux? |
| 13:38 |
Ripper003 |
Not anymore |
| 13:38 |
PilzAdam |
is there anything like wine on mac? |
| 13:38 |
Exio |
someone said mt in a vm worked pretty well |
| 13:38 |
Exio |
PilzAdam: wine? |
| 13:38 |
Ripper003 |
Nah I'd rather it was native, possibly be screen recording |
| 13:38 |
Ripper003 |
I can give wine a shot though |
| 13:39 |
Exio |
it is sad, but you will end faster trying to port the newest :P |
| 13:39 |
Exio |
(than searching a working one) |
| 13:40 |
Ripper003 |
Hmmm...well I know nothing of coding |
| 13:43 |
Ripper003 |
apparently it can be built |
| 13:44 |
Lyrositor |
There is something like Wine on Mac, I think it's called Wineskin. |
| 13:44 |
Ripper003 |
Nah I'd rather build it |
| 13:45 |
Ripper003 |
because then I can try and delivery an installable dmg, good place to learn I reckon |
| 13:45 |
iqualfragile |
there is something like wine on mac, its called wine |
| 13:47 |
Ripper003 |
get a program to run a program, makes perfect sense |
| 13:48 |
PilzAdam |
Ripper003, yea, its called "Java" :-p |
| 13:48 |
Ripper003 |
True dat |
| 13:48 |
Ripper003 |
Well, Java is the language |
| 13:48 |
Lyrositor |
Java often refers to the JVM too. |
| 13:50 |
Ripper003 |
Also true dat, but at heart Java is the language and the JVM just allows it to be read |
| 13:51 |
Ripper003 |
Just double checking, is this the full game as source? https://github.com/toabi/minetest |
| 13:51 |
Lyrositor |
I think http://github.com/minetest/minetest if the official repo. |
| 13:51 |
Exio |
the official source is at http://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 13:51 |
PilzAdam |
Ripper003, yea, but its horribly outdated |
| 13:52 |
Ripper003 |
Aaaaah I see, ok then |
| 13:52 |
Exio |
( http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game is the "official game") |
| 13:52 |
Ripper003 |
Wtf there's like 3 different repos? |
| 13:52 |
Lyrositor |
Each serves different purposes. |
| 13:52 |
Ripper003 |
which is the repo for the current 0.4.7 release then? |
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| 13:52 |
Lyrositor |
minetest is the one you build. |
| 13:53 |
iqualfragile |
all of them! |
| 13:53 |
PilzAdam |
minetest/minetest is the engine, minetest/minetest_game is the game (Lua) and taobi/minetest is the mac port of the engine |
| 13:53 |
iqualfragile |
actualy you can compile java to native code if you wish to |
| 13:53 |
PilzAdam |
there are 0.4.4 stable ports for mac in the forums somwhere |
| 13:54 |
Ripper003 |
I don't believe minetest_game is the full thing there's only like...two folders... |
| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
minetest is a engine, that allows games to define stuff via a Lua API |
| 13:55 |
Exio |
Ripper003: the 'game content' is just a lot of lines and textures |
| 13:55 |
Exio |
lines in lua :P |
| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
minetest_game basically consists of "minetest.register_node()" calls |
| 13:56 |
Ripper003 |
riiiight |
| 13:56 |
Ripper003 |
totally with you on that |
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| 13:58 |
arsdragonfly |
omfg the installation program crashed :-( |
| 13:59 |
Ripper003 |
going to run cmake -G Xcode using the master directory and see what happens |
| 13:59 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
| 13:59 |
Ripper003 |
command not found, loooovely |
| 14:01 |
Exio |
if you don't have cmake, i guess you don't even have irrlicht, lua, etc |
| 14:01 |
Ripper003 |
nopeses |
| 14:01 |
Exio |
so, install all the dependencies first, and then try :P |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Exio's head |
| 14:02 |
Ripper003 |
blargh |
| 14:02 |
* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head. |
| 14:02 |
Ripper003 |
gimme a list of dependencies from somewhere? |
| 14:02 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
| 14:03 |
kaeza |
Ripper003, readme |
| 14:03 |
Ripper003 |
very helpful for OSX |
| 14:04 |
Ripper003 |
now I see why there isn't a current OS X port <.< |
| 14:06 |
NekoGloop |
yep |
| 14:06 |
Ripper003 |
I'd love to help y'all out, but this is too deep for me |
| 14:09 |
Exio |
Ripper003: the problem is, there isn't any core-dev (or active-dev, or whatever) compiling and using MT on mac os x |
| 14:09 |
Ripper003 |
no use whining to me about it, I don't work for Apple :P |
| 14:10 |
Zeg9 |
Q: are after_destruct and on_destruct supposed to work? |
| 14:13 |
NekoGloop |
A: Probably |
| 14:15 |
Lyrositor |
There exists a package manager for OS X, but I forget the name. |
| 14:16 |
Lyrositor |
Ah, yes, Homebrew. If it's anything like Linux, you should be able to install those packages easily. |
| 14:18 |
NekoGloop |
Q: Does anyone even use the two glooptest tools? |
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| 14:31 |
RealBadangel |
http://i.imgur.com/7p6uMuc.png |
| 14:31 |
RealBadangel |
new look of silver chest and new way of changing chest's infotext |
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| 14:31 |
xrosnight |
hello guys |
| 14:32 |
RealBadangel |
hi |
| 14:32 |
xrosnight |
how to register minetest |
| 14:32 |
xrosnight |
hey RealBadangel |
| 14:32 |
RealBadangel |
xrosnight, you dont have to register anything |
| 14:32 |
xrosnight |
hello john_minetest how's everything going on :) |
| 14:32 |
RealBadangel |
game is opensource and free |
| 14:33 |
xrosnight |
okay. does the game store profile? |
| 14:34 |
xrosnight |
okay thx john_minetest i am liking it |
| 14:34 |
xrosnight |
that's good. i got 50 fps |
| 14:34 |
xrosnight |
how is that |
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| 14:41 |
xrosnight |
john_minetest: thats good . good job :) |
| 14:41 |
xrosnight |
which server has most of the players? |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
xrosnight: see erver list |
| 14:43 |
NekoGloop |
one of them |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
you need cURL to see it |
| 14:43 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Calinou's head |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
if no server has players, then all of them, NekoGloop |
| 14:43 |
* Calinou |
puts a pony on NekoGloop's head |
| 14:43 |
* NekoGloop |
is squished |
| 14:43 |
* john_minetest |
puts an unicorn on NekoGloop's head |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
wifi unicorn* |
| 14:44 |
NekoGloop |
is that what the horn is for? |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
well, yeah |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
"Increasing your wifi range with a unicorn - A practical guide" |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: a unicorn, not an unicorn |
| 14:45 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou, If a word starts with a vowel sound, then "an" is proper. |
| 14:45 |
Zeg9 |
NekoGloop: register_ore: clust_scarcity and clust_num_oresmust be greater than 0 << I got this error in glooptest |
| 14:45 |
NekoGloop |
I know |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
a unicorn, a university, an utter crap |
| 14:46 |
NekoGloop |
I do play with my own mod |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
utter = uh-tter |
| 14:46 |
Calinou |
unicorn = you-nicorn |
| 14:46 |
Zeg9 |
It could have been a problem on my side |
| 14:46 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 14:46 |
NekoGloop |
I am in the process of figuring out which ore is causing it |
| 14:47 |
Zeg9 |
I tried to find it too, found nothing (didn't look as deep as I would do with my own mod though) |
| 14:47 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 14:47 |
NekoGloop |
Yes I made my own function for registering everything about an ore |
| 14:47 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 14:49 |
Zeg9 |
something like that should be done in minetest_game. There would be less copy-pasta of tools recipes and all. |
| 14:49 |
NekoGloop |
also why do you say that about how "deep" it is? |
| 14:49 |
NekoGloop |
isn't it deep enough as-is? :O |
| 14:50 |
Zeg9 |
I mean that I just searched for chunk_size = 0 and a few like that |
| 14:52 |
NekoGloop |
hrm |
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| 14:54 |
NekoGloop |
that is a good question, which ore is causing it... |
| 14:58 |
Zeg9 |
NekoGloop: found out, it's desert coal |
| 14:58 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, right |
| 14:59 |
NekoGloop |
it's still using the division format |
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alex____ |
how to tide over night in minetest??? |
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| 15:15 |
NekoGloop |
magic |
| 15:21 |
NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/jAZguBY.png new-style akalin block~ |
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| 15:27 |
Calinou |
alex____: /time 6000 |
| 15:30 |
NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/3BEQWWn.png alatro, new-styled! |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on neko259's hea |
| 15:36 |
NekoGloop |
head* |
| 15:37 |
neko259 |
Purr! |
| 15:37 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 15:37 |
* john_minetest |
has put all his kittens on heads of people in this channel. Now he hasn't got any kittens anymore. Except the one on the head. |
| 15:37 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97409#p97409 |
| 15:38 |
PilzAdam |
have you ever wondered why math is useless? ^ |
| 15:40 |
arsdragonfly |
lolz |
| 15:40 |
Zeg9 |
NekoGloop: looks nice |
| 15:40 |
arsdragonfly |
a=b so /(a-b) is invalid |
| 15:40 |
arsdragonfly |
divided by zero |
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| 15:40 |
NekoGloop |
Zeg9, see github glooptest |
| 15:41 |
PilzAdam |
arsdragonfly, let the others their fun trying to solve it ;-) |
| 15:41 |
arsdragonfly |
k :-P |
| 15:57 |
* NekoGloop |
wonders if a random number of dropped items is possible... |
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kaeza |
to anyone interested: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban/commit/f4825a613e2c32523a4d46c16685e4d65f2fe9ac |
| 16:05 |
kaeza |
(probably should be fixed in core, too lazy) |
| 16:06 |
NekoGloop |
Kalite Ore now drops More! :D |
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| 16:22 |
Kacey |
i see rba got internet back |
| 16:23 |
Kacey |
and NekoGloop came back |
| 16:25 |
Kacey |
right after i fixed the damn kitten generator to run on bones |
| 16:26 |
kaeza |
bbiab |
| 16:28 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey, Kalite Ore Drops More! |
| 16:28 |
Kacey |
there are plenty of bones |
| 16:29 |
Kacey |
too many in fact |
| 16:29 |
NekoGloop |
No seriously, kalite drops 2~4 kalite lumps now |
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| 16:31 |
Kacey |
aah |
| 16:32 |
Kacey |
well i never really played with that mod (i cant seem to remember the name) |
| 16:32 |
NekoGloop |
Arol also seems to be rarer than mese, or I'm just unlucky |
| 16:32 |
NekoGloop |
Glooptest? :P |
| 16:32 |
Kacey |
aah i thought so lol |
| 16:33 |
Kacey |
hey can you help me with one of my mods that died a while back? it had potential |
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| 16:33 |
NekoGloop |
which one |
| 16:33 |
NekoGloop |
a lot of your mods died |
| 16:33 |
Kacey |
it is called xytest |
| 16:34 |
Kacey |
you know xycraft? |
| 16:34 |
NekoGloop |
s/xycraft/xylag/ |
| 16:34 |
NekoGloop |
yes I know the mod |
| 16:34 |
Kacey |
https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest |
| 16:34 |
* Jordach |
pets NekoGloop like old times |
| 16:35 |
Kacey |
it is a bit different, but it had potential |
| 16:35 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
"Bon appetit." |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
appétit* |
| 16:37 |
* Calinou |
is a native french speaker |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
fear my baguette! |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
é* |
| 16:38 |
NekoGloop |
Hm... Arol has an astronomical amount of uses when made into a tool (10x diamond lol), so maybe being rarer than mese is good |
| 16:38 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, nom nom nom |
| 16:39 |
PilzAdam |
how dare you! |
| 16:39 |
* PilzAdam |
has 15 |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
btw, i have been granted a server for minetest on the viewskew vps |
| 16:39 |
NekoGloop |
7 out of 100? ;) |
| 16:39 |
PilzAdam |
out of 15 |
| 16:39 |
Kacey |
E does not equal mc²!!!!!!!!! i have disproved it 28 times! |
| 16:40 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey, E = lowest grade possible, mc = minecraft |
| 16:40 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 16:40 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 16:40 |
Kacey |
the pc version of minecraft that is |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
minecraft*minecraft = minetest |
| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, but at school we always calculated without relativity, even with electrons that moved almost at the speed of light |
| 16:41 |
Kacey |
because until we can play minetest on xbox, mc has us beat there |
| 16:41 |
NekoGloop |
I'm pretty sure it's possible |
| 16:41 |
NekoGloop |
Nobody wants to do that much work though |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
john_mt|afk: away nicks kill |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
apparently: it usually takes 2-3 months for each new minetest version |
| 16:46 |
ShadowNinja |
/kill *AFK* AFK nick! |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
Jordach: depends |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
Calinou, point me to moreblocks |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
mod suggestions for a sevrer |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
server* |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
(i've got moreblocks, simple mobs, carts...) |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, what's the easiest know area protection mod |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
sokomine, ^ |
| 16:52 |
Kacey |
hey does anyone know the new oregen code really well? |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
Kacey: why? |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
also, it's not that new :P |
| 16:54 |
Calinou |
<Kacey> because until we can play minetest on xbox, mc has us beat there => it's your problem for buying 6 year old locked hardware |
| 16:54 |
Kacey |
i want to make an ore that is rarer than diamonds, but spawns in a huge vein when you find some |
| 16:54 |
Calinou |
not that hard |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: easiest to use is probably glomie's "protection" mod. Most powerful is node_ownership. Best is my fork thereof, at least until ShadowNinja releases his protector mod. |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, how does yours work? |
| 16:55 |
Kacey |
Calinou, my xbox is nearly 10, so yeah... |
| 16:55 |
PilzAdam |
Kacey, just copy the register_ore() call of diamonds, increase rarity, clust_size and clust_num_ores |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: same as the upstream version. /set_owner foo x1,y1,z1 x2,y2,z2 |
| 16:55 |
Exio |
locked hardware is lame |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, point me the git link then |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/node_ownership-20130123.zip |
| 16:57 |
Jordach |
i love wget |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
forgot to install apt-get file-roller lol |
| 16:59 |
* Calinou |
uses wget like once per year |
| 17:01 |
Exio |
aria2c is better for big downloads, true |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
chromium* |
| 17:02 |
Exio |
the webbrowser? why? |
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| 17:03 |
Calinou |
because! |
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| 17:04 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: If you want to test: http://shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tar.gz |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
quick question: i want to just build the server on linux |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Building_without_Irrlicht.2FX_dependency |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
tip: irrlicht is not required for server |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, it is |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
at least the headers |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
ouch viewskew vps is quick |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
501mb/s for github downloads |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
inb4 Jordach uses it to DDoS |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
HOLY SHIT |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
50% built in 20 seconds |
| 17:08 |
sfan5 |
hello |
| 17:09 |
kaeza |
world |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
** |
| 17:09 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
); |
| 17:09 |
Exio |
[14:08:51] <Jordach> 50% built in 20 seconds |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
+" |
| 17:09 |
Exio |
make -jx? |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
make -j4 |
| 17:09 |
Exio |
compiling the server only is very fast yes |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
it took 32 bit debian 6 and entire minute |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
>2013 |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
>32 bit debian 6 |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
Jordach: that's faster than me |
| 17:10 |
NekoGloop |
>2013 |
| 17:10 |
NekoGloop |
>32 bit |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
I take about 1 minute to compile minetest with all my cores |
| 17:11 |
Calinou |
oh, you're compiling server only |
| 17:11 |
Exio |
Calinou: he is compiling the server only |
| 17:11 |
Exio |
ew |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
why "ew" |
| 17:16 |
NekoGloop |
away is now uber-away |
| 17:18 |
Exio |
Calinou: because i saw the backlog after i pressed enter |
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| 17:22 |
* NekoGloop |
forgets how to detect a mod from within lua... |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
either check the type of one of its functions (to see if it actually IS a function) or try to use the get-modpath function on it.; |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: minetest.get_moddir() |
| 17:22 |
ShadowNinja |
NekoGloop: if minetest.get_modpath(mod) |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
oops |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
dofile(minetest.get_modpath("intllib").."/intllib.lua") |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
what ShadowNinja said. |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
this: if (minetest.get_modpath("intllib")) then |
| 17:23 |
NekoGloop |
ohi V |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
checks for mod "intllib" |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
be sure you make the mod in question an opt depend |
| 17:27 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks/pull/1 |
| 17:27 |
PilzAdam |
lol "== true" |
| 17:27 |
NekoGloop |
? |
| 17:27 |
PilzAdam |
thats redundant |
| 17:28 |
NekoGloop |
? |
| 17:28 |
PilzAdam |
! |
| 17:28 |
NekoGloop |
. |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: mind squashing them? |
| 17:28 |
PilzAdam |
¿ |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
… |
| 17:28 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, why?! :D |
| 17:28 |
PilzAdam |
¡ |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
aw, PilzAdam ninja'd me |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
.â‹…. |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
¨ |
| 17:29 |
NekoGloop |
~ |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: pweeze? :) |
| 17:29 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, I was using github's editor, not sure if there's an easy way to do that |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
no worries, I'll deal with it |
| 17:31 |
NekoGloop |
main part of that is to allow tools to 100% function in 0.4.7 |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 17:31 |
NekoGloop |
second main part is evil sticks are craftable with gold ingots in place of kalite lumps without glooptest |
| 17:32 |
NekoGloop |
Uses for gold? Yes. Promoting glooptest via allowing cheaper recipes? Yes. |
| 17:32 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
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| 17:33 |
NekoGloop |
esp. with how kalite is now; it drops 2~4 lumps |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: merged. |
| 17:35 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
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lamefun |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/797 |
| 17:36 |
lamefun |
can someone bring some more light on this :(? |
| 17:36 |
lamefun |
unplayable |
| 17:36 |
lamefun |
completely |
| 17:36 |
NekoGloop |
not having the problem |
| 17:36 |
NekoGloop |
also haven't played on a server in the last 3 months |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, the admin is wrong |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
lamefun: happens to everyone, to varying degrees |
| 17:36 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, why? |
| 17:37 |
kaeza |
lamefun, get a better connection |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I've had that happen occasionally even with anti-cheat disabled. |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
its definitely better with disable_anticheat |
| 17:37 |
NekoGloop |
I've only had it occasionally happen with anticheat enabled >.> |
| 17:37 |
lamefun |
Orby (Wazuland) said he tried |
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| 17:39 |
lamefun |
Does anyone know exactly why does this happen? |
| 17:39 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, update your server with gloopblocks + glooptest ;) |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, it happens because of lag between the server and the client; but anticheat definitely makes it worse |
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| 17:39 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, exactly why does lag lead to this? |
| 17:40 |
lamefun |
Aren't commands sent as reliable packets? |
| 17:40 |
hmmmm |
hmmmm |
| 17:40 |
hmmmm |
who wants mushrooms in caves? |
| 17:40 |
lamefun |
I do |
| 17:40 |
NekoGloop |
me |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
lamefun: UDP isn't particularly reliable |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
it only happens if you have massive lag, with anticheat enabled even a bit lag is enough |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop |
get a better interwebs |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: can't restart the server right now, there are people on :) |
| 17:43 |
NekoGloop |
egads |
| 17:43 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, why should lag be a problem? |
| 17:43 |
lamefun |
commands aren't delayed |
| 17:43 |
lamefun |
they are lost |
| 17:43 |
NekoGloop |
glomie's server doesn't have animated kalite torches |
| 17:44 |
PilzAdam |
if you wait long enough then the server gets your command |
| 17:44 |
PilzAdam |
but until then you will see the node reapppearing |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, the client decides whether it outputs something |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
if you configure it right then /away wont output anything |
| 17:45 |
svuorela |
I have the impression that grown wheat gives often 0 or 1 seeds. and sometimes 2. but not at all as often as it gives 0, basically making a wheat farm a dead end without seeds from the outside |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, pastebin your script to restart your server |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
svuorela, nope, full grown wheat gives at least 1 seed every single time |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
it does not, john_minetest |
| 17:46 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam: hmmm... then why do I see what I see ? |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
maybe its not full grown |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5814573/ |
| 17:47 |
NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/c3xlygB.jpg retro akalin textures lol |
| 17:48 |
svuorela |
I guess I should study wheat more closely. |
| 17:49 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, waited 10 minutes, used up 2 picks, the blocks that re-appeared didn't disappear again |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, you use my windows builds |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: most clients set the 'away' flag, which shows up in other clients. |
| 17:49 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, I use whoever has the latest build |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, then its the anticheat protection, turn the off then you have the lag only |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/Nao8CDI.png |
| 17:50 |
NekoGloop |
which as of yesterday at approx. 9 pm EST, your build was latest |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: your copy of flowers_plus is out of date too :) |
| 17:50 |
NekoGloop |
s/my/glomie's/ |
| 17:50 |
lamefun |
PilzAdam, what does that protection do? |
| 17:50 |
NekoGloop |
or, s/your/glomie's/ |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: you should include a log path also at least |
| 17:51 |
Jordach |
i dont use logfiles |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: glomie? didn't know he had a fork of flowers. |
| 17:51 |
NekoGloop |
his server |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
well his copy is out of date then :P |
| 17:51 |
NekoGloop |
he has outdated everything |
| 17:53 |
* sokomine |
picks up some flowers and plants them in a garden |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
maybe I'll do the seeds thing at some point. |
| 17:54 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: http://ix.io/6qS I little more advanced. |
| 17:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: ^ |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
meh |
| 17:56 |
ShadowNinja |
However it requires psutil. |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: wow |
| 17:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh, and backup shutdown notices require external_cmd(possibly my version, but the stock one should work) |
| 17:58 |
Taoki |
Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97450#p97450 |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
SCREENSHOTS!!!!!! |
| 17:59 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, it checks several things, one if it is if the player is inside the digging range of the node he wants to destroy; when the lag between server and client is too high, then the position of the player on the server is not up-to date with the position of the player on the client |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
beautiful, Taoki ! |
| 17:59 |
Taoki |
Thanks :) |
| 17:59 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: ^ I hope there are no objections to the looks :) |
| 17:59 |
NekoGloop |
Ohgodyes |
| 17:59 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, so the range checks says "nope", although the client thinks hes in the range |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: MERGE THAT. NOW! |
| 18:00 |
Taoki |
I'll give it a few more tests, see if there's anything I forgot, and do the pull request |
| 18:00 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Tell that to the developers I might potentially have to beg in case something in the code isn't right :P |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
Taoki, the intensity of fog is too much |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
looks good now |
| 18:01 |
Taoki |
Jordach: It's darker now, some screenshots were taken before the brightness correction |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
Jordach: that's his view distance |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
*cough*fglrx*cough* |
| 18:01 |
NekoGloop |
that too |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: I would suggest one last thing: gradient above the foggy horizon |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
from "current color" to transparent |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
(to get rid of the sharp edge) |
| 18:01 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Would be nice but harder and more complicated to do. Some other time |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 18:02 |
NekoGloop |
you could do a check based on the player's y value |
| 18:03 |
NekoGloop |
then render everything above that with uncolored fog |
| 18:03 |
NekoGloop |
perhaps |
| 18:03 |
NekoGloop |
might not look great but might look slightly better |
| 18:05 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, dont make the effect too heacy |
| 18:05 |
PilzAdam |
*heavy |
| 18:05 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, he's on like nothing for render distance it seems |
| 18:05 |
NekoGloop |
do a screen with a reasonable render distance too |
| 18:05 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: I want to make it intense enough, otherwise it won't meet the purpose of beautiful environments |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> Taoki, the intensity of fog is too much |
| 18:05 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Tried with the latest code? |
| 18:06 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 18:06 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, do a screen with more than 5 render distance please |
| 18:06 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, its a minor graphical improvement, and not a super-mega |
| 18:06 |
PilzAdam |
*-uber feature in the players face |
| 18:06 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: Working on it |
| 18:07 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: I'm focusing more on the purpose and final looks, minor or not. But I'll see if I can reduce the blending and still have it look good |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/eBJLd6w.png |
| 18:07 |
RealBadangel |
http://i.imgur.com/kCYksWw.png |
| 18:08 |
NekoGloop |
except it's a free game... |
| 18:08 |
Taoki |
LOL, you were fast at that RBA :D |
| 18:08 |
RealBadangel |
gold chest almost ready, together infotext edit and color picker |
| 18:08 |
NekoGloop |
Is that a blaze rod I see there, RBA? ;) |
| 18:08 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Problem is that tne vivid intensity of fog is exactly what makes it beautiful. If I remove that it will look uglier and be less than what it's intended |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, this look good for a minetest.conf: http://i.imgur.com/oVcm6Dt.png |
| 18:09 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, show us what it looks like with a sane render distance plox |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: can you make it configurable in minetest.conf ? |
| 18:09 |
Taoki |
Posting new images now... |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: announce=0? why? |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
does it show on the server list by default |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
then what line would it be |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
you have to announce. |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
=1 |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
duh ;) |
| 18:10 |
RealBadangel |
NekoGloop, blaze rod? if you mean tool in hand thats mining drill |
| 18:10 |
RealBadangel |
sphax's texture pack |
| 18:10 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadangel, no i mean the orangey thing in the GUI |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
also set your server_url = [address of your forum thread] |
| 18:11 |
Kacey |
bbl |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
default_privs = hopefully more than just shout, e.g. fly, fast, etc. |
| 18:11 |
RealBadangel |
at the top? |
| 18:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Add the IRC mod. :-) It will make it easier to ask for privs. |
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NekoGloop |
RealBadangel, yes |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, hold on please |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, DONT MAKE A CREATIVE SERVER!!! |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, it isnt |
| 18:12 |
RealBadangel |
its a pencil, click it to edit chest infotext |
| 18:12 |
ShadowNinja |
LOL. |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: make it creative - we have enough damn survival servers already. |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
yours is the best |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: on the first post. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4057 |
| 18:12 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, Erm. I can't find any survival ones, other than glomie's server which doesn't count because old mods |
| 18:12 |
RealBadangel |
NekoGloop, like so: http://i.imgur.com/7p6uMuc.png |
| 18:12 |
Taoki |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97455#p97455 Better screenshots |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: http://minetest.net/servers |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
\O/ spawn is v6_jungle |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
most of those are survival |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
well about half are. |
| 18:13 |
Taoki |
http://i42.tinypic.com/2hzsvgn.png ---- http://i44.tinypic.com/jkevkg.png |
| 18:13 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, hrm, yeah, allow configurable fog intensity. |
| 18:14 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, so the other half is creative |
| 18:14 |
Taoki |
This doesn't feel like it needs to be configurable, but if the devs want I can do that |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: um.. duh? |
| 18:14 |
PilzAdam |
but survival servers need a good ping, so Jordach VPS is perfect for this |
| 18:15 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, it looks kinda odd, especially in the first one |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
not to mention this is provided by StarBlessed |
| 18:15 |
NekoGloop |
about half of that intensity would be good for me~ |
| 18:15 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: It aims for a realistic to surrealistic feel |
| 18:16 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, can you at least -attempt- what half intensity looks like |
| 18:16 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: Was about to do that now. I will |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, it seems like just applying the sun color is wrong here |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, mt.viewskew.com |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
!up mt.viewskew.com |
| 18:16 |
MinetestBot |
mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (227ms) |
| 18:16 |
ShadowBot |
Jordach: mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (598ms) |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
uh oh |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
ShadowBot, shuch |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, STFU |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
shush* |
| 18:16 |
ShadowBot |
PilzAdam: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ |
| 18:17 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: I apply a color blend of my own, not the sun color |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, oh, then the color is wrong |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
yellow fog is meh |
| 18:17 |
sokomine |
nekogloop: there are many survival servers. which direction do you prefer? which mods would you like to see? what do you expect from a server? |
| 18:17 |
NekoGloop |
erm |
| 18:17 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: I'm not sure how to improve on the formula any further or how to make that any better |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, did you just join |
| 18:17 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm... |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
downloading media... |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, cURL? |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
remote_media isnt used |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
but... but why? |
| 18:18 |
NekoGloop |
because pie |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
uh, oh, crashed |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
Assertion '!m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed |
| 18:18 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: Half intensity looks acceptable, but way less beautiful :( |
| 18:18 |
sokomine |
yes, happens sometimes |
| 18:19 |
NekoGloop |
Taoki, screenies |
| 18:19 |
Taoki |
Well, still pretty beautiful |
| 18:19 |
Taoki |
Hold on |
| 18:19 |
Taoki |
It's actually not that bad. Hmmm |
| 18:19 |
NekoGloop |
I just don't want every node in the fog to look like some kind of solid orange block >.> |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, 18:20:20: ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, im using the stable |
| 18:23 |
* NekoGloop |
bugs Taoki for screenies of half-intense fog |
| 18:23 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop: Coming, checking it a bit more |
| 18:23 |
Taoki |
It looks better at half intensity yes |
| 18:23 |
NekoGloop |
See? Listen to the kitty cat ;) |
| 18:27 |
Exio |
what basic but light mods would you recommend (for survival)? |
| 18:28 |
NekoGloop |
Glooptest. |
| 18:28 |
* NekoGloop |
shameless plug |
| 18:28 |
Exio |
what does it contain more than randomblocks |
| 18:28 |
NekoGloop |
Um. |
| 18:28 |
NekoGloop |
Edible rocks. |
| 18:29 |
Exio |
and more than random rocks and blocks |
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* john_minetest |
tries to figure out how to do a minetest map with layers like openstreetmap |
| 18:34 |
Taoki |
NekoGloop, Jordach: With half intensity - http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97458#p97458 |
| 18:34 |
Taoki |
Already updated the comit |
| 18:35 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: ^ Does that seem ok enough intensity wise? I'm not going any lowrer... that's prolly the lowest it will go while still looking beautiful |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
Taoki, take 10% off |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
it looks better but just overpowered |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: those are good enough for me anyway :) |
| 18:35 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Any lower would look ugly. It's really good now |
| 18:38 |
Exio |
implement it with shaders? |
| 18:38 |
Exio |
or how are you implementing that? :P |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: make the shading configurable in minetest.conf |
| 18:38 |
NekoGloop |
Well you can tell that the farther nodes aren't just orange blocks |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
then everyone's happy :) |
| 18:38 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: You mean the intensity? |
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| 18:38 |
Taoki |
Exio: In the Render function of sky.cpp |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
the intensity yes, and the color tinting forumlas if at all possible |
| 18:39 |
Taoki |
It just modifies the color before rendering, no need for shaders |
| 18:39 |
Exio |
hmm |
| 18:39 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Shading is possible, color tinting formulas no |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
just the shading then |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
and any other variable you can think of that can affect the result in a predictable way |
| 18:39 |
Exio |
Taoki: how does it look with shaders enabled? |
| 18:40 |
Taoki |
My screenshots ARE with shaders enabled :P |
| 18:40 |
Taoki |
And with them disabled, they look identical by all logics |
| 18:40 |
Exio |
ah |
| 18:40 |
Exio |
k |
| 18:47 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Is the intensity ok for you in the latest code? |
| 18:49 |
Taoki |
Though again, I'd rather throw the code away than decrease it any lower than 0.5. If I do it will totally lose the feel and effect |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: prollergithub.com commited to minetest/minetest: Fix sand, gravel falling stuck 37ca8854f7 2013-06-30T11:48:51-07:00 http://git.io/rJGFQQ |
| 18:52 |
Exio |
is WE using the luavm? |
| 18:52 |
NekoGloop |
Erm, wasn't that fixed forever ago |
| 18:56 |
Taoki |
So... everyone happy with the latest fog thingie? I'll pull request it tonight. |
| 18:56 |
Taoki |
Just no lower intensity than that... 0.5 is borderline perfect |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: screw everyone else, just merge it :D |
| 18:59 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: I can't I don't have upstream access >_< |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
shit. |
| 18:59 |
Taoki |
I'll have to haunt PilzAdam most likely ;) |
| 19:00 |
Taoki |
Plus him & celeron55 for the VBO code (even harder) |
| 19:00 |
Taoki |
Well, not hard(ER), since so far none of the devs objected to the fog code |
| 19:02 |
Exio |
15:51:10: ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL |
| 19:02 |
Exio |
what is this |
| 19:02 |
NekoGloop |
Exio magic |
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VanessaE |
NekoGloop: server updated. |
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| 19:18 |
MarkTwain |
hi |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:18 |
MarkTwain |
I need some help |
| 19:18 |
MarkTwain |
I have 2 servers |
| 19:18 |
MarkTwain |
void.bugs3.com and marktwain.bugs3.com |
| 19:18 |
MarkTwain |
all content is on marktwain atm |
| 19:19 |
MarkTwain |
Forum, Social Network, Business, Chat, Media Manager, Wiki |
| 19:19 |
MarkTwain |
I need to move some of it to the other server |
| 19:23 |
* PilzAdam |
won a fight with a DM |
| 19:24 |
MarkTwain |
I know how to! just want to know what people want so i can move it to the faster one |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, not hard |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
dungeon setting for mapgen v6? |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
whatsthat |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
mg_flags = caves,trees,dungeons,jungles,v6_biome_blend |
| 19:26 |
NekoGloop |
yes I know |
| 19:26 |
NekoGloop |
what's it do |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
it adds dungeons? |
| 19:26 |
MarkTwain |
atm i plan to move the social network to the faster one |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
(in newly made worlds) |
| 19:26 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou, anything special in these dungeons? |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
mossy cobble |
| 19:27 |
Exio |
and cobble |
| 19:27 |
NekoGloop |
I see... |
| 19:27 |
Exio |
the precious cobble that nobody haz |
| 19:27 |
NekoGloop |
no uber-death-machines? |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
no |
| 19:27 |
NekoGloop |
nice |
| 19:28 |
* NekoGloop |
is going to assume that they're pretty much similar to MC dungeons, without loot chests and monsters |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
not really |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
MC dungeons are 5×5, 7×7 or 5×7 with a spawner and 1-2 chests (rarely, 0) |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
MT dungeons have a lot of rooms |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
some small, some big |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
and there are staircases too |
| 19:29 |
NekoGloop |
THERE WE GO. |
| 19:29 |
NekoGloop |
Knew there was some way to get a decent description of them. |
| 19:30 |
* Jordach |
revokes PilzAdam's interact |
| 19:30 |
* NekoGloop |
revokes PilzAdam's all |
| 19:31 |
PilzAdam |
this server lags |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, the VPS is in US |
| 19:33 |
NekoGloop |
that would be why |
| 19:39 |
Exio |
is MT lagspiking after leaving it 15 minutes running with vanilla a known bug? |
| 19:41 |
Calinou |
Exio, "works for me" --ecks and you about suspend |
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| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
How does one check for a priv of a player again? |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
/privs playername |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
from lua |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
</troll> |
| 19:43 |
NekoGloop |
well that was a valid answer to the asked question |
| 19:44 |
NekoGloop |
just because the asked question wasn't accurate to what I wanted, though, doesn't really mean much. |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE trolling? \o/ |
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| 19:48 |
NekoGloop |
Ok, what's a priv usually given to server moderators? |
| 19:49 |
NekoGloop |
ban would probably be a good one |
| 19:53 |
BlockMen |
Hey, a short announcement: The official wiki has moved. It is now at http://wiki.minetest.net . Thanks alot to thexyz who is hosting it now. |
| 19:53 |
BlockMen |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97474 |
| 19:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Remove the cat/dog CAPTCHA! It doesn't work. |
| 19:56 |
thexyz |
thanks, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s400/ALOT.png |
| 19:56 |
* john_minetest |
puts a cat/dog on ShadowNinja's head |
| 19:56 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: did you even try? |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
put a pony captcha instead, so that john_minetest can complete it |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
"Which pony is this?" [insert pony image here] |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
:-) |
| 19:57 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, it works now. But it is still annoying. A normal one or word one would be better. |
| 19:58 |
PilzAdam |
do I have to create a new account? |
| 19:58 |
BlockMen |
ShadowNinja, in oposite to old one it works :P |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: of course it works |
| 19:58 |
Exio |
Calinou: in singleplayer that doesn't happen for me |
| 19:58 |
BlockMen |
PA, yes |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: you only need to enter it once |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
when registering |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
is that such a big deal? |
| 19:59 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: It doesn't(or didn't) work on dev.minetest.net. |
| 19:59 |
thexyz |
it does work on dev.minetest.net |
| 20:00 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, fuck this, the server is too laggy |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, RTT = 0.100 |
| 20:00 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, got ninja'd by stone monster that appeared _after_ it killed me |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
i teleported you to 0,0,0 |
| 20:00 |
thexyz |
Calinou: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=How_to_start_contributing&curid=422&diff=1373&oldid=1372&rcid=1483 why? |
| 20:01 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Favicon? |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
because that guy 1) believes ideas actually add to the game 2) added an useless introduction |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
they don't, ideas are as cheap as air |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
(if not cheaper) |
| 20:02 |
PilzAdam |
BlockMen, the link at the main page still points at minetest.com |
| 20:03 |
BlockMen |
PilzAdam, i know. i wanted notify c55 to change (i cant change main nav) |
| 20:04 |
PilzAdam |
BlockMen, also, what does "official" mean? |
| 20:05 |
BlockMen |
PilzAdam, http://www.dict.cc/?s=official :P |
| 20:05 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, btw, I found 3 diamonds, you can get them from my bones in 10 minutes |
| 20:06 |
BlockMen |
it was called before official, so when hosting by a core dev i think official is ok. |
| 20:06 |
thexyz |
Calinou: I'm not sure this is right.. |
| 20:06 |
BlockMen |
furthermore it is now under minetest.net which IS the official website of minetest |
| 20:07 |
PilzAdam |
BlockMen, the official website points at the wiki at minetest.com |
| 20:07 |
BlockMen |
PilzAdam, will be changed... |
| 20:07 |
BlockMen |
i have asked c55 already |
| 20:08 |
thexyz |
Calinou: it depends on what an "idea" is to you |
| 20:08 |
BlockMen |
maybe i should change the template that way, that the members can also change navigation |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
thexyz, most people, by idea, understand "hey, add curvable materials|colored lights|fish and fish blocks to game" |
| 20:09 |
thexyz |
for example, the description of logic behind redstone/mesecons can be called "an idea" too, right? |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
this is what I understand by "idea" |
| 20:12 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, I like how that introduction says "play the game before annoying others" |
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| 20:14 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, you can talk, you seem to be annoyed by random people posting ideas :P |
| 20:15 |
thexyz |
Calinou: well, I doubt those people you describe will use dev wiki |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
Win32 build of MirceaKitsune's fog color additions/changes: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-37ca885-betterfog-win32.7z |
| 20:17 |
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| 20:17 |
NekoGloop |
you're still versioning as 0.4.6? :O |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
ummm |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
w8 |
| 20:18 |
NekoGloop |
windows 8? why? ;) |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: "meow" is a valid reason |
| 20:21 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
| 20:22 |
NekoGloop |
And what are you blaming me for now |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
btw, NekoGloop speaks meow and purr into a mic and IRC translates it |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
if he says "woof", his IRC client segfaults |
| 20:22 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, I need to work out the bugs in the software |
| 20:22 |
NekoGloop |
Somemeow it doesn't work |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: I blame you for making me notice that I dl'd the wrong branch |
| 20:25 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: prollergithub.com commited to minetest/minetest: Disable collision fix, its broke unit tests 131eb56f52 2013-06-30T13:26:54-07:00 http://git.io/unnGFg |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
night |
| 20:29 |
thexyz |
onomatopoeia is broken, btw |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
Taoki: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-37ca885-betterfog-win32.7z |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
!g leaf.js |
| 20:30 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://leafletjs.com/examples/custom-icons.html |
| 20:30 |
Taoki |
Thanks |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
that's that 3d mapper, right? |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
(the one thexyz did?) |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
yes, that one |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
if someone could show me how to use it, I might |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
but when I last looked, it didn't support nodeboxes. |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I recognize this map |
| 20:40 |
Forty-3 |
I am unable to run minetest even after a recompile: http://ur1.ca/ehmlo |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
maybe I'll try it some time, but there are no instructions |
| 20:42 |
Forty-3 |
I reran cmake |
| 20:42 |
PilzAdam |
Forty-3, how do you compile? |
| 20:42 |
Forty-3 |
cmake .;make;su -c 'make install' |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: now I see why I didn't try it...all of the recognized nodes and textures are hard-coded. |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
bummer. |
| 20:43 |
PilzAdam |
Forty-3, try rm CMakeCache.txt and then rerun the other commands |
| 20:43 |
Forty-3 |
k |
| 20:43 |
thexyz |
which reminds me I probably should redo onomatopoeia |
| 20:44 |
BlockMen |
bye everyone |
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| 20:44 |
Forty-3 |
john_minetest: same thing |
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| 20:47 |
Forty-3 |
err |
| 20:47 |
Forty-3 |
PilzAdam: same thing |
| 20:47 |
PilzAdam |
can you paste all the terminal output since cmake . ? |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
pastebin* |
| 20:49 |
Forty-3 |
sure |
| 20:49 |
Forty-3 |
http://ur1.ca/ehmqp |
| 20:51 |
PilzAdam |
thats strange |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
does RUN_IN_PLACE default to 0 or 1? |
| 20:52 |
PilzAdam |
whats the output of "whereis irrlicht"? |
| 20:52 |
NekoGloop |
1 iirc |
| 20:52 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, 0 |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
ok, thought so |
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| 20:52 |
NekoGloop |
ok fine |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
good night |
| 20:53 |
Forty-3 |
irrlicht: /usr/include/irrlicht |
| 20:54 |
Forty-3 |
PilzAdam: ^ |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
please post the output of cmake . -LH |
| 20:56 |
Forty-3 |
ki |
| 20:56 |
Forty-3 |
*k |
| 20:57 |
Forty-3 |
http://ur1.ca/ehmuy |
| 20:58 |
PilzAdam |
I cant find anything non-normal there |
| 20:59 |
PilzAdam |
try cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 and dont run make install |
| 20:59 |
PilzAdam |
then run the executeable from bin/ |
| 20:59 |
Forty-3 |
k |
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| 21:00 |
Forty-3 |
gah |
| 21:01 |
Forty-3 |
stupid pasting |
| 21:01 |
Forty-3 |
PilzAdam: same thing |
| 21:01 |
* john_minetest |
is rendering the tiles |
| 21:07 |
STHGOM |
who made the animations for 3D sam? |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
Taoki did. |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
Stu also made a model with nice elbow/knee joints |
| 21:08 |
STHGOM |
minecraft's model is like that |
| 21:08 |
STHGOM |
but who says it need to be like minecraft??? |
| 21:09 |
Jordach |
STHGOM, the MC model doesnt have elbows/knees |
| 21:09 |
STHGOM |
opps |
| 21:09 |
STHGOM |
oops |
| 21:09 |
STHGOM |
sry |
| 21:10 |
Forty-3 |
PilzAdam: poke |
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| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
Forty-3, sorry, I have no idea |
| 21:10 |
Forty-3 |
damn |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
ask the support of your distro |
| 21:11 |
STHGOM |
my friend says sam looks like hes drunk :D |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 21:11 |
PilzAdam |
STHGOM, hes not called sam |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: he's called SAM (in all caps) |
| 21:11 |
PilzAdam |
nope.avi |
| 21:11 |
STHGOM |
somewhere i heard him called sa |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: you don't make the rules here, the rest of us do :P |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
Jordach and I named the model SAM (=SAM Ain't Minecraft) |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
Sam for short :P |
| 21:12 |
PilzAdam |
neither of you are core devs |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, the community name things you see in-game |
| 21:13 |
Jordach |
not to mention the mc player was never supposed to be called steve |
| 21:13 |
STHGOM |
SAM: Silly Awsome Man |
| 21:13 |
STHGOM |
D |
| 21:13 |
STHGOM |
:D |
| 21:13 |
Forty-3 |
SAM: SAM is an Awesome Man |
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| 21:14 |
VanessaE |
STHGOM: it has to be recursive. SAM Ain't Minecraft. |
| 21:14 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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| 21:15 |
RealBadangel |
PilzAdam, stop being against every proposal |
| 21:15 |
RealBadangel |
this is getting boring |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
and frustrating. |
| 21:16 |
RealBadangel |
i can understand you can have different ideas, but every single time? you are blockin everythin |
| 21:16 |
RealBadangel |
this is made by community and for the community |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
its not made by the community |
| 21:17 |
RealBadangel |
and please take care what other think |
| 21:17 |
STHGOM |
yes it is |
| 21:17 |
STHGOM |
how many mods are there |
| 21:17 |
STHGOM |
mostly |
| 21:17 |
RealBadangel |
of fucking course it is |
| 21:17 |
RealBadangel |
we are the community |
| 21:17 |
RealBadangel |
you too |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadangel, also: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/c3c5f8a228f5e60506c5df74deeaf8b9fc26c11c <- this proofs you are wrong |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: actually that's proof that he's right, as you mito and I all worked on getting those sounds to some usable level before committing. |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
yes, but I supported the idea of new sounds |
| 21:19 |
RealBadangel |
so hmmmm too |
| 21:19 |
RealBadangel |
and im goin to reverse in my game |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
so "against every proposal" and "blockin everythin" is wrong |
| 21:19 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: yes, but you initially rejected the idea that some of those new sounds just weren't any good. |
| 21:19 |
RealBadangel |
but im not screamin that every proposal is shit |
| 21:19 |
VanessaE |
(no offense to mito) |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, this shows that there is a reason when I say "no" |
| 21:20 |
RealBadangel |
1 for 1000 of other |
| 21:20 |
RealBadangel |
*s |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadangel, also, "blocking everything" <- I have more features committed than you |
| 21:20 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: 90% of what you say "no" to is because you personally don't like the idea, whatever it may be, with no allowance whatsoever that maybe, just MAYBE you're the *only* one who doesn't like it. |
| 21:20 |
* NekoGloop |
votes for Pilz to be booted from the team because of bias with ideas |
| 21:21 |
NekoGloop |
basically "this is my game now your ideas are shit" |
| 21:21 |
RealBadangel |
PilzAdam, maybe because im not commiting because i know you will block it? |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: non sequitur - you've also been the only one who had any real commit access to minetest_game for a long while |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
(until recently) |
| 21:21 |
NekoGloop |
"if they happen to coincide with what I want, then good for you" |
| 21:21 |
RealBadangel |
how many commits to your projects have you posted today? |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, are you kidding? if someone asks me if I like a feature then of course I will follow my presonal preference |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
everything else would be insane |
| 21:22 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, Yes but whether you like it or not shouldn't matter for whether it's a good idea to have it in minetest. |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadangel, 1 or 2 |
| 21:22 |
RealBadangel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game/commits/master |
| 21:22 |
RealBadangel |
face this :P |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
well, you know, there is always those Minetest forks |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: yeah but everyone has to go through you anyone to GET anything into the game to begin with |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
are we talking about the engine or minetest_game |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
the game, mostly. |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
+? |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
well, currently nobody can get a new feature into minetest_game |
| 21:23 |
* NekoGloop |
has posted like 7 or 8 commits to glooptest mainly because I don't feel like combining commits into one. |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: exactly. |
| 21:24 |
PilzAdam |
I refuse to add any new feature because of people compaling about everything |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
thank you for illustrating my point. |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
YOU REFUSE!? |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
it is minetest_game, not pilzadam_game |
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| 21:24 |
Uberi |
what is the proposed solution here? |
| 21:24 |
PilzAdam |
of course this includes the features Id like to see in minetest_game |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: there is no solution afaik. |
| 21:25 |
Uberi |
well, you can't give everyone push privs |
| 21:25 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, the only solution is to rename the repo to pilzadam_game and start over |
| 21:25 |
Uberi |
or fork, obviously |
| 21:26 |
NekoGloop |
Also, while everyone's here, does on_construct call when mapgen places a node? |
| 21:26 |
PilzAdam |
the problem with minetest_game is that its too central; everyone wants to pull it in his direction |
| 21:27 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, the problem with minetest_game is that you THINK everyone wants to pull it from you |
| 21:27 |
Uberi |
and if that happens, nobody will like it |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
| 21:27 |
VanessaE |
that's what configuration options are for |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, that was discuseed a while ago and everyone agrees that there is no suitable solution here |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
if some new feature is controversial, disable it by default. it's that simple. |
| 21:28 |
* john_minetest |
is listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBK2blOJtk all day long |
| 21:29 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commits/master a total of ten commits from today and yesterday. |
| 21:34 |
RealBadangel |
NekoGloop, i dont think its is called then |
| 21:35 |
NekoGloop |
hrm, then is it possible to call it externally? I'd assume so. |
| 21:36 |
RealBadangel |
at least swaping nodes doesnt trigger it |
| 21:37 |
NekoGloop |
ah, minetest.place_node causes all events of a player placing it |
| 21:37 |
NekoGloop |
probably safe to assume this includes on_construct |
| 21:37 |
RealBadangel |
try adding to any ore on_construct and print(dump("anything")) and check it out |
| 21:38 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, on_construct() is even called when "only" using set_node() |
| 21:38 |
NekoGloop |
ah alright |
| 21:38 |
NekoGloop |
makes these a little easier |
| 21:39 |
PilzAdam |
the only cases where on_construct() is called are: mapgen, place_schematic() and the Lua voxelmanip |
| 21:39 |
PilzAdam |
*not called |
| 21:39 |
NekoGloop |
i see |
| 21:41 |
svuorela |
hmm... can I farm sheep using the simple mobs mod ? |
| 21:41 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 21:42 |
PilzAdam |
feed them with wheat |
| 21:44 |
svuorela |
but how do I fetch or keep them ? |
| 21:44 |
svuorela |
or do they follow me once I've fed them ? |
| 21:44 |
PilzAdam |
they will follow you if you hold wheat in your hand |
| 21:44 |
svuorela |
and that way I can walk them into a fenced-off area ? |
| 21:44 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
| 21:45 |
Uberi |
do they breed with wheat? |
| 21:45 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
no, you just need to leave them alone for a while - the server will breed them for you :P |
| 21:47 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, "its guy love, between two guys" |
| 21:49 |
PilzAdam |
"everything comes down to poo" |
| 21:56 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, I think this is the best scene in scrubs: http://youtu.be/w5InEV8mvps |
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| 21:58 |
PilzAdam |
MANGO BODY BUTTER!?!?! |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
later in the epised Elliot asks him if he ate her mango body butter :D |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
*episode |
| 22:20 |
NekoGloop |
Hrm, haven't used lua in a while... remind me of the proper way to iterate through a list? |
| 22:21 |
Exio |
ipairs? |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
for i in ipairs(mytable) do myvar=table[i] print(var) end |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
er print(myvar)...etc |
| 22:22 |
NekoGloop |
hm |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
that's how I do it anyway |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you forgot ,var |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: not necessary. |
| 22:22 |
NekoGloop |
I just want to repeat something 24 times, remembering how many times I've done it. |
| 22:22 |
NekoGloop |
This is the appropriate approach to that? |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: for i = 1,24 do xxxxx end |
| 22:23 |
NekoGloop |
and it will go from 1 to 24? |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
| 22:23 |
NekoGloop |
Alright. |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I guess its more performant if you do for i,v than for ... do v =table[i] |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
but iterating through a list the first way is better. |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: old habit from other languages/ |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
. |
| 22:24 |
NekoGloop |
All I wanna do is populate an inventory ;) |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
use the former loop then |
| 22:26 |
NekoGloop |
why? |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
since you surely need a table to decide WHAT gets put into the inventory |
| 22:26 |
NekoGloop |
Indeed. |
| 22:26 |
NekoGloop |
But it's randomly picked from said table. |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
then use the latter loop. |
| 22:30 |
NekoGloop |
Now, how to tell the amount of entries in my loot table... |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
len=#loottable or something like that? |
| 22:31 |
NekoGloop |
eh? |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
the # sign in front of a table name gives the length of the table I think. |
| 22:33 |
NekoGloop |
Ok. What's the random function again? :P |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
math.random() |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
math.random(lowest, highest) |
| 22:33 |
NekoGloop |
inclusive? |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
pretty sure anyway |
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| 22:35 |
NekoGloop |
alright |
| 22:36 |
Uberi |
yes, it's inclusive |
| 22:37 |
NekoGloop |
alright |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
to be sure: break will only stop one loop, right? |
| 22:38 |
Uberi |
the innermost one, yes |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
gotcha |
| 22:39 |
Uberi |
to break out of multiple ones, you can use goto |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
goto! |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 22:39 |
NekoGloop |
goto hell |
| 22:39 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 22:39 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 22:39 |
STHGOM |
i go :D |
| 22:39 |
* Uberi |
picked up some bad habits from ASM |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: CLC: BCC xxx ftw :) |
| 22:40 |
NekoGloop |
"xxx ftw" |
| 22:40 |
* NekoGloop |
leaves |
| 22:40 |
Uberi |
btfsc STATUS, 0 |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
:P |
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| 22:47 |
NekoGloop |
I have had this same song on repeat since 9 AM this morning |
| 22:47 |
NekoGloop |
wut |
| 22:48 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: replace it with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI |
| 22:49 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BajXx_MkhYA nah |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you are old |
| 22:49 |
VanessaE |
39. |
| 22:50 |
NekoGloop |
divide by 3 = me |
| 22:51 |
* NekoGloop |
wonders when preserve={""} is going to be implemented in minetest.register_craft() |
| 22:51 |
VanessaE |
preserve? |
| 22:51 |
* NekoGloop |
points at lua_api.txt |
| 22:52 |
Uberi |
like bucket of water -> empty bucket, VanessaE |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
use replacements. |
| 22:52 |
Uberi |
yeah replacements are designed for this |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
not as good but close enough for most uses. |
| 22:52 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 22:52 |
NekoGloop |
nonono |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
replacements = { { "buckets:bucket_water", "buckets:bucket_empty" } } |
| 22:52 |
PilzAdam |
replacements dont work with items that are stacked |
| 22:52 |
NekoGloop |
for example, the group usage. and stacks. |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
eh, well then there's no way to do it |
| 22:53 |
Uberi |
well items that need replacements generally have a stack_max of 1 anyways |
| 22:53 |
NekoGloop |
preserve will simply keep the itemstack there |
| 22:54 |
NekoGloop |
table.pack? :O |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: I assume it turns an explist into a table |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
but the table constructor can already do that |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
see: {...}, for packing *args |
| 22:57 |
NekoGloop |
hrm, table.pack(table.unpack({...})) would add the "n" field with the max number, correct? :P |
| 22:57 |
Uberi |
I dunno if that would work, since explists can't have the named field "n" |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
oh wait a minute |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
yeah I think that'd work |
| 22:58 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
but just use table.pack(...) |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
it's shorter and faste |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
r |
| 23:00 |
NekoGloop |
huh, NP++ doesn't highlight table.pack |
| 23:00 |
Uberi |
i think it's new to lua 5.2 |
| 23:00 |
NekoGloop |
which means it may or may not work in minetest |
| 23:00 |
PilzAdam |
Minetest uses 5.1 |
| 23:00 |
NekoGloop |
fuck |
| 23:00 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: but we can use goto and labels in mods |
| 23:01 |
* NekoGloop |
flips a table |
| 23:01 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, is that 5.2 too? |
| 23:01 |
Uberi |
yeah, I believe so |
| 23:01 |
PilzAdam |
maybe your LuaJIT uses 5.2, but lua-api.txt clearly says we use 5.1 |
| 23:02 |
Uberi |
ah that could explain it |
| 23:02 |
PilzAdam |
and the packed Lua is 5.1 too |
| 23:02 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 23:02 |
NekoGloop |
so it would work for people who compile with LuaJIT but nobody else |
| 23:02 |
Uberi |
so avoid lua 5.2 features, since those without luajit builds will not be able to use them |
| 23:02 |
NekoGloop |
which would be fine imo because fuck non-luajit is slow |
| 23:03 |
PilzAdam |
the problem with LuaJIT is that its not packed with minetest, so it might be 5.1 too |
| 23:04 |
NekoGloop |
So #insert.table.name_here is proper for obtaining the number of entries? |
| 23:04 |
Uberi |
yep |
| 23:04 |
Uberi |
well, not for sparse tables |
| 23:04 |
PilzAdam |
this version confusing stuff is the reaason why we bundle Lua in the source |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
# actually gets the length of the sequence before a nil index |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
but which sequence that actually is is implementation defined |
| 23:06 |
NekoGloop |
well a loot table like so: http://pastebin.com/5gmhUHns should be fine? |
| 23:06 |
Uberi |
yeah, that's a normal array |
| 23:07 |
NekoGloop |
yay |
| 23:08 |
PilzAdam |
ok, my LuaJIT uses Lua 5.1 |
| 23:08 |
Uberi |
huh |
| 23:08 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
| 23:08 |
PilzAdam |
and I use the one in the standard ubuntu repos |
| 23:08 |
NekoGloop |
well i have whatever he has so |
| 23:09 |
PilzAdam |
ehm, I dont know wich version I use for my win builds ;-) |
| 23:09 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, try print(_VERSION) |
| 23:09 |
NekoGloop |
I don't care |
| 23:09 |
Uberi |
assume 5.1 |
| 23:09 |
NekoGloop |
if i'm supposed to make 5.1 usable code i'll do it |
| 23:09 |
Exio |
the api changed in 5.2 |
| 23:09 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:10 |
PilzAdam |
if you have 5.2 then you wont notice if its not 5.1 compatible |
| 23:10 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, randomly spawning treasure chests throughout the world. |
| 23:10 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, what API? |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
whichbegs the question, at what point willMT move to 5.2? |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
lua<->C api |
| 23:10 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, never |
| 23:10 |
PilzAdam |
it will break mods |
| 23:10 |
Exio |
afaik it changed in some stuff, so it won't compile if you use lua5.2 without changing the code |
| 23:11 |
NekoGloop |
Later: Lua 7.0 released, MT still uses 5.1 |
| 23:11 |
NekoGloop |
;-) |
| 23:11 |
Exio |
if lua releases a 6x version |
| 23:11 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, whats the problem with that |
| 23:11 |
PilzAdam |
+? |
| 23:11 |
Exio |
it will, probably, not be compatible in any way to the API |
| 23:11 |
NekoGloop |
Nothing really. |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
I thought 5.2 was backwards compatible? |
| 23:12 |
Exio |
who will rewrite half of the lua_api files? |
| 23:12 |
Exio |
Uberi: i guess it is, but not in the lua<->C api? :P |
| 23:12 |
NekoGloop |
Exio, You! :D |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
ouch |
| 23:12 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, lets put an assert(_VERSION == "Lua 5.1") in builtin and lets see who uses 5.2 :-p |
| 23:12 |
Exio |
or even better |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
heheheh |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
hehe |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
compat.lua: _VERSION = "Lua 5.1" |
| 23:13 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, can you please test your version? I want to know it too |
| 23:13 |
Exio |
cheater! |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, pfft fine |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
h4x0rz |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
> _VERSION = "Lua 10" |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
> print(_VERSION) |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
Lua 10 |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
> |
| 23:14 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ |
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| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
WIN! |
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| 23:14 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 23:14 |
* NekoGloop |
makes glooptest write _VERSION to the console ten times on load |
| 23:14 |
Uberi |
you gotta set up some send delays in your IRC client PilzAdam |
| 23:15 |
PilzAdam |
or just kick ShadowBot |
| 23:15 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, 5.1 |
| 23:15 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, good |
| 23:15 |
PilzAdam |
so my win builds are compatible with the minetest API |
| 23:15 |
NekoGloop |
THEY'RE TAKIN THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD! |
| 23:15 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BajXx_MkhYA |
| 23:15 |
PilzAdam |
I heard the song yesterday for 1 hour |
| 23:16 |
NekoGloop |
I know |
| 23:16 |
NekoGloop |
I joined when you were taking a break at 10 mins |
| 23:16 |
PilzAdam |
everyone who hears it longer has no life, everyone who hasnt heard it that long is a n00b! |
| 23:16 |
* NekoGloop |
has no life anyway |
| 23:17 |
Exio |
what is it |
| 23:17 |
* VanessaE |
has no life, has never heard it, and is not a n00b. Figure that one out :P |
| 23:17 |
NekoGloop |
Exio, a virus |
| 23:17 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, LIAR! |
| 23:18 |
Exio |
i'm searching thing called life, from where can i download it? |
| 23:18 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, and then the world segfaults |
| 23:18 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, $ whereis life |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
no results :-/ |
| 23:18 |
Exio |
$ whereis life |
| 23:18 |
Exio |
life: |
| 23:18 |
Exio |
:( |
| 23:18 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, "The Game Of Life!" |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
does it run on the Minetest engine? |
| 23:18 |
Exio |
it is faster than that PilzAdam |
| 23:19 |
PilzAdam |
no way |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
No it's a literal computer implementation of the board game "Life" |
| 23:19 |
Uberi |
life: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79941#p79941 |
| 23:19 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79941#p79941 |
| 23:19 |
VanessaE |
DAMN |
| 23:19 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd |
| 23:19 |
Uberi |
hahaha :P |
| 23:19 |
Exio |
i want better ram :( |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
I want a ram too |
| 23:19 |
Uberi |
there's a luacontroller bug that prevents a lot of my machines from working |
| 23:20 |
PilzAdam |
I want ROM, so I dont have to remember you :-p |
| 23:20 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, ew luacontrollers |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
but for the life of me I can't find it |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: what's wrong with luacontrollers? |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: go ahead, build a 3D printer without luacontrollers! |
| 23:20 |
NekoGloop |
ew using lua more than I have to |
| 23:20 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, they are hacky |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: to you EVERYTHING is hacky |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
hacky? |
| 23:21 |
PilzAdam |
its too easy to build a computer |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, lua is hacky |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
Minetest is hacky. |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
it's too easy to build a skyscraper. |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
QED. |
| 23:21 |
Uberi |
the universe is hacky, it uses numerical integration |
| 23:22 |
Exio |
Uberi: is WE using the luavoxelmanip now? |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
Exio: nope, I spent the last few days playing video games and unpacking boxes |
| 23:22 |
Exio |
aw |
| 23:22 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, even the nether mod uses it now! |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
actually I'm still doing that so it has to wait |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
what? really? |
| 23:23 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, will a "break" in a if statement in a for loop break the if statement or the for loop? |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/blob/voxelmanip/init.lua#L372 |
| 23:23 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: the loop, break only applies to loops |
| 23:23 |
NekoGloop |
got it |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
I'll make it so that once it succeeds in putting an item in a slot, it moves on instead of retrying (which it does a max of 3 times for each slot |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, the vmanip is really fast |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
the nether generation is like a billion times faster now |
| 23:25 |
Uberi |
awesome :) |
| 23:25 |
* NekoGloop |
should check out the nether |
| 23:25 |
arsdragonfly |
Nekogloop : make the if statement an anonymous function and use return |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
(compared to the register_ore() hack used previously) |
| 23:25 |
arsdragonfly |
To break |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
arsdragonfly, ? |
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| 23:26 |
Uberi |
hopefully we'll eventually have a way to set param2 and such, and maybe even meta |
| 23:26 |
NekoGloop |
an... anonymous function? |
| 23:26 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, not really |
| 23:26 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: function() ... end |
| 23:26 |
Uberi |
hmm? |
| 23:26 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, best way is to remember that nodes and set things after the vmanip is done |
| 23:26 |
* NekoGloop |
has no idea what ars wants him to do |
| 23:26 |
Uberi |
that sort of defeats the speed gains, no? |
| 23:27 |
arsdragonfly |
Like (function () if blah blah blah ... end )() |
| 23:27 |
PilzAdam |
the Lua VoxelManip is a directly interface to core, no fancy API features |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
anyways I was using place_schematic to do this, it's reasonably fast but could be faster |
| 23:27 |
arsdragonfly |
(function () if blah blah blah return ... end )() |
| 23:27 |
PilzAdam |
place_schematic() doesnt set meta either |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: you mean the mapgen can't generate oriented nodes? |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: yeah, but we can avoid the set_node call entirely |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
which is a nice speed boost |
| 23:28 |
StarBlessed |
Hey guys. Love the mapgen PilzAdam |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
whereas with vmanip we need to go over it with set_node again to set param2 |
| 23:28 |
NekoGloop |
arsdragonfly, I want for xxx do if xxxx then break else xxx end end to break the for loop |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
<insert fancy coding skillz here> |
| 23:29 |
arsdragonfly |
It does IIRC |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
Then I'm good. |
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| 23:32 |
NekoGloop |
Tell me where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him~ |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
</songquoting> |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
A balrok of morkoth |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
what did you say? |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
A balrok of morkoth |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
balrog* morgoth* |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
why does Tolkien hates "k"? |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
For the same reason you cannot grammar. |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
hate* |
| 23:35 |
PilzAdam |
hes not a native speaker? |
| 23:36 |
NekoGloop |
Actually I am pretty sure he wasn't. Though he knew English well, I'm fairly certain it wasn't his first language. Or I could be completely wrong. |
| 23:37 |
PilzAdam |
"The Tolkien family had its roots in Lower Saxony but had been living in England since the 18th century, becoming "quickly intensely English"." |
| 23:37 |
PilzAdam |
"John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, CBE (/ˈtÉ’lkiËn/;[a] 3 January 1892 – 2 September 1973)" |
| 23:38 |
PilzAdam |
he was born in England |
| 23:38 |
PilzAdam |
pretty sure hes a native speaker then |
| 23:38 |
NekoGloop |
So I'm completely wrong.. |
| 23:38 |
PilzAdam |
Wikipedia: 1; NekoGloop: 0 |
| 23:38 |
NekoGloop |
I don't study literature either so I'm not surprised. |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 23:38 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, and, PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGfTLb6RFk0 |
| 23:39 |
PilzAdam |
round 2: where were "The Brennus and Charles Martel" first mentioned? |
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| 23:39 |
NekoGloop |
The question of a lifetime: "Why is the rum gone?" |
| 23:39 |
NekoGloop |
Or at least, of 10 hours. |
| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
I already whatched that in a playlist with 50 10 hour videos |
| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
you know you are good if youtube only recommends you 10 hour videos ;-) |
| 23:41 |
* NekoGloop |
would prefer that over some of the shit youtube thinks I wanna watch. |
| 23:41 |
PilzAdam |
she pronounces "RUM" like "RAM" in german |
| 23:42 |
NekoGloop |
Youtube: "You totally wanna watch "Jeff the Killer" right? Or "BEN.wmv"?" |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
"Why is the RAM gone?" |
| 23:42 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, because minetest |
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| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
only if VBO is enabled ;-) |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
or HDX :P |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
"VanessaE: "Oh I missed something, let's look at the logs" |
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VanessaE |
yup. |
| 23:45 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI_fgwbmJg0 I have no idea what this is |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you will never know the messages starting with a [off] |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
oh well |
| 23:46 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, thats rule 34 |
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NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, You meow. |
| 23:46 |
PilzAdam |
I mean, who would notice if there is pron in the middle? |
| 23:46 |
NekoGloop |
Or a screamer |
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NekoGloop |
;) |
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Kacey |
iiiiim back with good internet |
| 23:46 |
NekoGloop |
jes sayin~ |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
<NekoGloop> [off] Screw the logs I'm a kitty cat |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
>:-) |
| 23:48 |
NekoGloop |
I never said that. |
| 23:48 |
StarBlessed |
PilzAdam: So the Global media server is running. I think I got the most popular mods. |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, awesome! saw it |
| 23:48 |
* NekoGloop |
probably will not see glooptest/gloopblocks on that list |
| 23:48 |
StarBlessed |
It should be all automated. Ill find out tonight when the cron job runs. |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, what youtube recommends me: http://youtu.be/5NGguk8VXYc |
| 23:49 |
StarBlessed |
It'll grab the latest content from the git sources, then sort and dump all the media files in the Global directory |
| 23:49 |
StarBlessed |
Updating all the files. |
| 23:50 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, it requires mods to be on github? |
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StarBlessed |
If you want them updated automatically, yes. |
| 23:50 |
StarBlessed |
I can add them manually, but its easier to pull updates from git |
| 23:51 |
StarBlessed |
If someone doesnt have a git, I can host one for them. |
| 23:51 |
NekoGloop |
Oh it does. |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
StarBlessed, seesm good |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
*seems |
| 23:52 |
StarBlessed |
Im just hoping that it helps :D |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
any known servers who use your server yet? |
| 23:55 |
NekoGloop |
AdownupAdownup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwjUWKP18c |
| 23:59 |
StarBlessed |
Not yet, but Jordach has a VPS on my server. He's going to run a Server with it, so we'll see what happens :D |
| 23:59 |
PilzAdam |
I already played on that server today |
