Time Nick Message 00:03 kaeza PilzAdam, http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/39052359.jpg 00:03 kaeza :D 00:05 kaeza anyway, back to coding 00:06 OldCoder Folks 00:06 OldCoder Will somebody connect 00:06 OldCoder using a 0.4.4 client 00:06 OldCoder to one of my MT worlds please? Everything is moved to new hardware 00:06 OldCoder I wish to know if people can get in 00:06 PilzAdam lemme downgrade 00:07 OldCoder Not Holamundor or Metropolis... one of the other worlds 00:10 PilzAdam ip and port? 00:11 OldCoder Hi 00:12 OldCoder PilzAdam, minetest.org most ports from 30000 up... try 30004 for Octuteam or 30015 for Zegaton 00:12 OldCoder Things are in disorder but I will sort them out this summer 00:12 OldCoder The new server is fast fast fast BTW 00:14 PilzAdam OldCoder, I get a warning about possible incompatibilities on 30004 00:14 OldCoder Yep 00:14 OldCoder That is expected 00:14 OldCoder This is an early 0.4.4 server 00:14 PilzAdam and the hand is not showing up correctly 00:15 OldCoder Also not too surprising 00:15 OldCoder I take it you're using a somewhat newer client 00:15 PilzAdam I downgraded to the 0.4.4 tag 00:16 OldCoder All right 00:19 PilzAdam the hand works in 30015 00:21 OldCoder So the worlds survived :-) 00:22 OldCoder PilzAdam, thank you 00:22 OldCoder Others, my MT worlds will return better than ever over time 00:22 PilzAdam np 00:22 OldCoder This system is very fast 00:22 * OldCoder is not sure he mentioned it :P 00:22 PilzAdam yes, the server seems very fast 00:23 OldCoder sokomine, you must consider what to do... I can downgrade calinou world... we'll discuss it 00:23 OldCoder 8 cores 32 GB RAM gigabit switch :-) 00:24 arsdragonfly PilzAdam: fixed that 00:41 sokomine no, oldcoder, please don't downgrade. that might just cause further problems 00:41 sokomine if necessary, i can change my client to ignore that bug for now 00:42 sokomine 32 gb are a lot :-) 00:42 sokomine i was testing the new fast version of worldedit. it's something i'm very much looking forward to 00:45 sokomine hmmmm, i tested that new worldedit version that makes use of your create/place_schematics. it is a very helpful function. the question is: what happens if part of the region intended for saving (or later: placing in) is not loaded? 00:45 sokomine my test region got only partly copied. it may be that only that part had been loaded 00:45 hmmmm it is loaded first 00:46 hmmmm i am aware of someone else having a similar problem, but i cannot figure out exactly what's wrong. did you try logging out and back in again? 00:47 OldCoder hi 00:47 sokomine let's see...where can i place the schematic so that someone else can download it for a test? 00:47 OldCoder it is a bug 00:49 sokomine yes, i did. first, i tried to copy withhin the world i copied it from. when i logged back in i was astonished to see that mapgen took place in that area. i had problems with that world previously - it did not save changes. guess that's what happened there as well. so i tried in a new world. it seems a lot is missing 00:49 sokomine maybe that world's corrupted more than i thought 00:49 sokomine ah, yes, there's another one i can try 00:50 StarBlessed OldCoder, did you mention that it was 32Gb RAM with 8 cores on a gig switch? I think you should, you know. Just to remind everyone. ;) 00:51 sokomine he did mention it :-) 00:51 sokomine might be a good world to really run the mobf animals in :-) 00:51 PilzAdam hey StarBlessed 00:51 StarBlessed Hey PilzAdam :) 00:52 StarBlessed Hows things going bro? All gud? 00:52 PilzAdam yea 00:53 StarBlessed I posted a vid. I was thinking of using as title sequence. Feedback would be appreciated :D http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/possible-titles-1/ 00:53 StarBlessed I have another one I'll upload the other one soon. 00:55 PilzAdam Im not a fan of long intros 01:02 StarBlessed Production value? LOL 01:04 PilzAdam I like your intro, though; it fits the style of your videos 01:04 StarBlessed Thanks. There's another one. Ill let you know when its posted. 01:05 PilzAdam I already have seen a second a video, was it deleted? 01:05 StarBlessed I removed it because of the bad encoding. If you've seen it, which did you prefer? 01:06 PilzAdam the first one 01:06 PilzAdam as I said, it fits your style 01:06 StarBlessed Ok. :) 01:09 PilzAdam Im going to sleep; bye 01:20 arsdragonfly cya 01:20 arsdragonfly (now i have to wait for another 12 hours for my commit to be merged) 01:32 jordan4ibanez This game Organ Trail is absolutely fantastic. 01:41 khonkhortisan Minetest players are closely related to the nyan cat. They always know which way is down, and will always instinctively point their feet in that direction, above the need to look any direction. 01:41 VanessaE yay, pipeworks autorouting for tubes is finally working exactly the way I wanted it. 01:42 khonkhortisan If there happened to be a sign written upside-down, they wouldn't be able to do a handstand to read it due to this overwhelming instinct. It's also why they can't crawl, as that would point their feet sideways. 01:42 khonkhortisan This may be related to a fear of heights. 01:44 VanessaE (one of these days I need to condense autoplace.lua into routing algorithm and a set of rules tables rather than a bunch of hard-coded rule checks) 02:01 kahrl the screwdriver behaves weird because 6d facedir has broken texture coords, correct? 02:02 kahrl or did I break it myself when I removed the atlas 02:17 khonkhortisan tiles and wallmounted go ±Y±X±Z, while 6d facedir goes +Y±Z±X-Y. 02:21 VanessaE behaves weird, how? 02:21 khonkhortisan mode 2 will skip a rotation, then go back to it 02:22 khonkhortisan like down up left right, instead of (counter)clockwise 02:43 Kacey all i know is 2 hits on mode 3 will make anything face downwards 02:45 Miner_48er Is there any mods for a that update lighting to fix areas? 02:46 khonkhortisan worldedit //fixlight 02:47 khonkhortisan but it's not a separate privilage 02:49 Miner_48er that helps a tree works beter though 02:49 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUeIG_Fcalo someone owes the internet an explanation 03:33 ch98 Can soneone get debug for my concrete mod? 03:33 ch98 somthing is wrong but can't figure out what. 04:30 Miner_48er can lightstone recieve a signal vertically from mese? 05:06 Kacey i would think so... 06:27 Snake12534 hi 06:33 kaeza hi 06:34 kaeza hiding in a box again? :P 06:34 Snake12534 minetest? 06:34 Snake12534 no :P 06:34 kaeza I bet you didn't get the joke :P 06:35 Snake12534 the game gave my PC a virus 06:35 kaeza maybe too young 06:35 kaeza virus... wat 06:35 Snake12534 Nah, old as a tree ;) 06:35 Snake12534 Yep. 06:36 Snake12534 I don't know if it is something else. 06:36 kaeza well, where did you download it from? 06:36 Snake12534 a link you guys gave me 06:36 kaeza perhaps an over-zealous antivirus 06:37 Snake12534 My PC can't handle downloads too big, and when I do attempt, chaos. 06:38 kaeza well if you got a virus, I got a simple solution: 06:38 kaeza install Linux :P 06:38 Snake12534 Windows 7 is better. 06:38 kaeza meh 06:39 Snake12534 and I can't install Linux. 06:39 kaeza Dual boot Win7 Ultimate/Ubuntu12.04 06:40 kaeza jokes aside, you should never download Minetest from any other site than the links pointed on minetest.net/download/ 06:40 kaeza and I doubt the virus came from Minetest 06:41 Snake12534 ah, given the link the users gave me? 06:41 Snake12534 Yeah me too, but it happened after I tried to download. 06:42 kaeza can you PM the link? 06:43 Snake12534 I don't have the link, I just clicked on it, and continued :/ 08:00 kaeza Geany: Y U SO CRASHY? 08:00 kaeza mornings Calinou 08:01 Calinou hi 08:01 * Calinou tries to reduce their RAM frequency to 1333mhz, doesn't boot 08:01 Calinou auto (1600mhz) boots... 08:23 kaeza off to bed, night 08:23 Calinou night 10:25 * john_minetest listens to the original TRON soundtrack now. 10:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:31 testman42 Hi. Can someone test if server uplink.io:30000 is still working? 10:32 testman42 I cannot connect to it 10:34 ShadowBot john_minetest: uplink.io:30000 seems to be down 10:34 testman42 oh, ok 10:35 testman42 I see it was removed from server list too 10:37 testman42 thank you 11:34 ShadowBot john_minetest: 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down 11:42 proller try ::1 11:44 proller !up odroid.setun.net 11:44 ShadowBot proller: Error: Maybe you typed the address wrong? 11:45 proller hohoho! 11:45 proller bot fail 11:45 proller !up ::1 11:45 ShadowBot proller: Error: Invalid Address 11:56 ShadowBot john_minetest: blackhaw.k:30000 seems to be down 12:17 Calinou dat domain name 12:17 Calinou .k 12:47 arsdragonfly join #minetestdev 12:47 arsdragonfly ignore that 13:44 Zeg9 Hello ! 13:52 MarkTwain moo 13:52 MarkTwain I have a website now 13:52 MarkTwain markveidemanis.bugs3.com 13:52 MarkTwain got any other services? 13:53 MarkTwain that have python/lua 14:20 Zeg9 Hi 14:34 VadtecWk greetings all, been a while 14:35 VadtecWk is it just me, or is compiling MT on win7 a bitch? 14:36 PilzAdam windows sucks 14:38 VadtecWk true, but thats beside the point atm 14:38 VadtecWk more importantly, mingw is having a bitch fit with a few of the requirements to make MT run with sound 14:38 VadtecWk like vorbis 14:39 VadtecWk its mostly working, but vorbis and gettext dont compile for shit 14:41 VadtecWk and id really rather not have to install any of the visual studio crap 14:45 sfan5 VadtecWk: just download the vorbis packages and so on from the urls in buildbot.sh 14:46 VadtecWk sfan5, more than anything, im brushing up on my mingw skills 14:46 VadtecWk im about to have to port an app to win from *nix 14:46 VadtecWk and i know MT should compile using mingw 14:47 VadtecWk since i already have MT running on win, its a good benchmark 14:49 VadtecWk ugh...i hate stupid cygwin build platforms 14:49 VadtecWk they cause so many issues with mingw 14:56 BlockMen hi 15:13 sokomine hi hmmmm. is there an example out there of how to use the schematic specifier with that table? the lua_api.txt does not specify where/how to present the node names. the version withhin worldedit only applies the lua functions but does not modify the schematic. i need to rotate it into all available directions (changing param2 accordingly) and occasionally exchange all of one node type with another 15:14 sokomine also: if i don't care about a node (i.e. air outside the building), would "ignore" be the right name for that node? trees and such outside the house could remain standing; air is only relevant inside the building 15:25 BlockMen lol...great fps: http://youtu.be/yGOmRph2NpI?t=2m10s :D 15:27 VadtecWk welll...shit...im so close to getting this to compile, but im getting a nasty error that doesnt seem to be going away with the easy fixes 15:27 Jordach pastebin the error somewhere 15:27 Jordach eg, .txt document if you cant pbin it 15:30 VadtecWk Jordach, https://dpaste.de/SfSWR/ 15:30 VadtecWk line 8 15:31 VadtecWk and yes, this is being compiled via MinGW on Win7 15:31 Jordach sounds like a missing dependancy 15:31 VadtecWk yeah, im about to look into the source and see whats missing 15:31 Jordach i'd grep, but we dont have grep 15:32 VadtecWk O.o 15:32 VadtecWk what kind of barbaric envrion are you forced to use? 15:32 Jordach windows 7 15:32 VadtecWk notepad++ ftw 15:32 Jordach YEAH 15:32 Jordach :brofist: 15:33 VadtecWk #include 15:33 VadtecWk i bet thats whats blowing up 15:36 VadtecWk imagine that...i cant find that file anywhere on my machine 15:36 proller fucked windows 15:36 proller its my yesterday patch 15:36 VadtecWk proller, interesting...i downloaded from git yesterday 15:37 VadtecWk was that patch pushed to the trunk? 15:37 Calinou Jordach: s/fist/hoof 15:37 Calinou Jordach: relevant: some guy in #lichess trolled me about that 15:37 VadtecWk oh hey...it *did* find that file 15:37 VadtecWk hmmmm 15:38 Jordach ah, were seeing if ipV6 actually builds 15:39 proller Vadtec, my patch broke it 15:39 Jordach Calinou, chess? 15:40 hmmmm hello sokomine, sorry for not responding immediately but i am not always around at my computer 15:40 hmmmm i don't really know what you mean by 'that table', sorry 15:40 hmmmm do you mean the raw data format? 15:41 VadtecWk proller, hmmm, so whats the rev right before your patch? :P 15:41 hmmmm nodes are specified in the global node specification format, i give an example toward the end of the documentation where there's a listing of the different fields 15:42 proller https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/75b8c13b0042678a909becbde8f1f82400f2d8ac - not broken 15:43 VadtecWk proller, thanks, ill DL the code at that point and see if it compiles or not 15:45 Jordach NOOOOOOOOOOO! THE DEVIL IS BACK! 15:45 proller 8) 15:45 Kacey bbl 15:46 Jordach i was listening to Reptile's Theme (Skrillex) when i heard fatality when PilzAdam joined 15:46 Jordach thats no coincidence 15:46 proller need to up winver to vista 15:47 proller to use inet_ntop 15:48 VadtecWk proller, are you talking line 28 in socket.cpp? 15:48 Jordach proller, that breaks windows xp users 15:48 Jordach CRITICALLY. 15:49 proller who uses xp ? 15:49 proller VadtecWk, its in 5+ places 15:49 Jordach BUSINESSES. 15:49 Jordach and people who cant upgrade to Vista or 7 15:49 proller why BUSINESSES use minecraft ? 15:49 proller they can setup linux 15:49 Jordach because LAN Parties 15:50 kahrl they have their business logic programmed in mesecons 15:50 Jordach haha 15:52 VadtecWk in my experience, many people i know who have old XP machines are running MC before it went all stupid and needed multi-core and some are even running MT on it nicely 15:52 Jordach proller, even though XP is going to get the axe, it STILL WORKS. 15:52 Calinou VadtecWk: minecraft does not need multicore 15:52 proller okay 15:53 Calinou i hear tons of people who play minecraft on a P4 decently :P 15:53 VadtecWk Calinou, yeah...tell that to my old single-core lappy that wont run it for shit, even with linux loaded on it 15:53 Jordach Calinou, includes me 15:54 Jordach 60fps dead 15:56 VadtecWk Calinou, and i know its not the lappy thats the issue, it has a 2Ghz processor with 2G of ram 16:00 Jordach but then the car must know your DOB 16:01 Jordach which needs an EULA 16:01 Calinou VadtecWk: fun fact: frequency and RAM don't mean performance 16:01 Jordach yeah 16:01 VadtecWk Calinou, fun fact: i can play many other games just fine on that laptop, some of which are graphics intensive 16:02 VadtecWk i can play WoW on it and have no issues 16:02 VadtecWk so yeah, i blame MC for its shit threading code 16:02 VadtecWk and there are far more people who had issues like that than didnt 16:02 Jordach VadtecWk, its not MC 16:03 Jordach its JAVA 16:03 VadtecWk correction: its MC being programmed in a way that exposes the failures of Java in massive ways 16:04 VadtecWk proller, https://dpaste.de/VwrYT/ <--- go figure something else is broken in that rev lol 16:05 VadtecWk and i know its not for a lack of Lua, i freshly compiled it before compiling MT 16:05 VadtecWk probably a version mismatch with Lua 16:05 Jordach or IPV6 being a BITCH 16:05 Calinou VadtecWk: it mostly depends on your graphics card 16:06 Calinou VadtecWk: java is 15% slower than C on average 16:06 Calinou but is way easier 16:06 Calinou and it works on any OS 16:06 VadtecWk Jordach, what would lua_objlen have to do with IPv6? 16:06 Calinou it's just that minecraft lacks optimization 16:06 Calinou if it was coded in C like that it would have been just a bit better 16:06 Jordach or Python 16:06 Calinou also, minecraft doesn't use multithreading much, especially the client 16:06 Jordach they say PyGlet is fucking FAST 16:06 Calinou python is even slower... 16:06 Calinou Jordach: so is luajit 16:07 Calinou but _scripting_ languages for entire programs tends to suck 16:07 Calinou and it makes you look weird too :P 16:07 Jordach Calinou, a 3D Avatar chat program uses py2EXE 16:07 Jordach i *actually* shit myself when i spotted that in the wild 16:10 VadtecWk Calinou, yes, your graphics card plays a big role in this, but if im getting 50fps in WoW, i would expect MC to perform well enough to not suck ass 16:10 VadtecWk so yeah, whatever the issue is 16:10 Calinou wow is a 8 year old game :P 16:10 VadtecWk wether its Java 16:10 VadtecWk MC 16:10 VadtecWk or hardware 16:10 VadtecWk MC still sucks from a programming perspective 16:11 proller VadtecWk, in this commit was no lua changes 16:11 proller try make clean 16:12 VadtecWk proller, it was a completely fresh folder 16:12 VadtecWk entirely fresh 16:12 VadtecWk even for the dependencies 16:14 VadtecWk ill try make clean, but i doubt it will make a diff 16:14 proller v6 fixed 16:14 proller try to update and build 16:15 Exio [13:06:07] VadtecWk: java is 15% slower than C on average 16:15 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Fix ipv6 on windows e47f6fdfe9 2013-06-24T09:13:56-07:00 http://git.io/saXF-g 16:15 Exio java sucks when you add a graphic layer in the middle 16:16 proller java eats 10+ more memory than.. 16:16 Exio for now, MC uses less ram than MT for me 16:16 proller and working with big memory - slower 16:16 proller mc is 2d game 16:17 VadtecWk proller, ok, give me a few 16:23 Calinou it isn't, proller 16:25 Jordach /face = 16:25 Jordach http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg 16:25 Jordach saves me time 16:25 Jordach finding links 16:25 Calinou http://fc02.deviantart.net/f... 16:25 Calinou nothing 16:25 Calinou :P 16:26 Jordach -!- Jordach: WARNING: /ignore %nick all LIMIT REACHING 16:27 VadtecWk proller, im going to tear down this build environ and start from scratch, im getting odd compile errors 16:27 proller old? show 16:27 Jordach hey YoungDerp 16:27 YoungDerp hi Jordach 16:28 Jordach /csb = cool story bro 16:28 VadtecWk proller, s/old/odd/ 16:28 proller show! 16:30 VadtecWk proller, https://dpaste.de/Tvv5u/ line 3 16:30 VadtecWk proller, or even line15 16:31 VadtecWk no reason i should be getting Lua errors 16:31 VadtecWk im using Lua 5.2.2 16:31 VadtecWk and it was compiling fine earlier other than the ipv6 16:31 Jordach Vadtec, you *should* be using version 5.1.2 16:32 Jordach not 5.2.x 16:32 VadtecWk oh? 16:32 Jordach thats the version the apt-get instruction on github states 16:32 Jordach and thats what luajit uses iirc 16:32 VadtecWk easy enough to fix 16:33 Jordach VadtecWk, i hate windows compiling. 16:33 Jordach honestly. 16:33 VadtecWk so do i 16:33 Jordach unless its your own app, then gtfo 16:33 VadtecWk but i dont have a *nix box with a GUI at work 16:33 VadtecWk and i dont think command line ASCII MT would be much fun 16:33 Jordach ubuntu live disc with stuff for minetest 16:34 Jordach problemo solved 16:34 VadtecWk ive actually though of that 16:34 VadtecWk :P 16:34 Jordach VadtecWk, make a ram disc so the files can sit somewhere though 16:34 VadtecWk but also, its good for me to know how to build it on win, because my kids have one *nix lappy and one win lappy 16:34 Jordach s/win/*nix 16:34 Jordach problem solved,. 16:35 Jordach -, 16:35 VadtecWk you gonna buy it for me? 16:35 VadtecWk well, for them? 16:36 Jordach i do have 270k in my bank 16:36 Jordach except i cant access it until im 18 16:36 VadtecWk well there ya go 16:37 Jordach because of my fathers bank needs someone at 18 to then take "ownership" 16:37 * Jordach buys Calinou a nVidia TITAN 16:39 Jordach i get 6,750 per annum on current rate per year 16:39 Jordach i can live off of interest 16:39 VadtecWk sweet 16:41 Jordach if i left it for 30 years, i'd get 20,000 per annu, 16:41 Jordach annum* 16:43 VadtecWk ok, lets see if lua 5.1.2 fixes the issue 16:43 Jordach it shoudl 16:43 Jordach should. 16:45 hmmmm [12:16 PM] for now, MC uses less ram than MT for me <--- not surprising, seeing as how MC unloads mapblocks as soon as they come out of range 16:45 VadtecWk if it does, im guilty of just grabbing the newest sources for all the deps and blindly installing them 16:45 Jordach http://youtu.be/9mPtKgX370k?t=1s 16:45 Jordach /nice 16:45 Exio hmmmm: "for now" 16:45 Exio :P 16:46 hmmmm Java programs can manually set the maximum amount of memory that can be used 16:46 hmmmm it's a shame they didn't detect the amount of ram available to them and scale according to that, or according to a user-specified parameter 16:46 VadtecWk i force my MC to use 4G of ram, just to avoid performance issues 16:47 hmmmm they made it 1.25GB if i recall 16:47 VadtecWk 1G 16:47 hmmmm it's at that point where the garbage collector starts 16:47 Mallot1 hey everyone :) 16:47 hmmmm VadtecWk, it'd probably be better for performance if you had less ram allocated 16:47 VadtecWk hmmm: im running BuildCraft and IndustrialCraft on most my worlds 16:48 VadtecWk need the extra ram for all the processing 16:48 VadtecWk :P 16:48 VadtecWk but I even run that on stock MC 16:48 hmmmm instead of allocating new memory that isn't cached, it'd garbage collect something up that it doesn't need that *is* in the cache, boosting overall performance 16:48 VadtecWk though i set the hard limit at 4G and the soft limit a 1G 16:48 hmmmm i really doubt it ever actually uses that much 16:48 hmmmm like i said, that's just the point at which it garbage collects 16:49 VadtecWk ive seen stock MC use up to 3G of ram before 16:49 VadtecWk dont remember what i was doing though 16:50 hmmmm [12:36 PM] i do have 270k in my bank <---- nice, who set up *that* investment? 16:50 hmmmm are you sure it's not a bond? 16:50 hmmmm if it's really a savings account, you're basically throwing money away 16:51 hmmmm take a couple hundred dollar bills and toss them out the window as you're driving down the highway, it's pretty much the same effect 16:51 hmmmm for sums of money greater than 25k, i personally recommend looking into some mutual funds 16:55 * zRokh is slurping chocolate ice cream like a Baccan 16:55 Calinou Jordach: newsflash: titan is useless, slightly OC'd 780s do the same thing for 300€ cheaper 16:55 Calinou except for fast double precision compute 16:56 Calinou not to mention you can get custom heatsinks with the 780, and not the titan 16:56 Calinou (or you have to put them yourself :P) 16:56 hmmmm he's a trust fund baby though, of course he'll be dumb and get titans 16:56 hmmmm :p 16:56 zRokh 0.4.7 changelog plz? 16:56 Calinou zRokh: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 16:56 zRokh tnx dod =) 16:57 PilzAdam Calinou, why do you tell him? 16:57 hmmmm should buy an i7-3930k along with that 16:57 hmmmm and that $500 fortress ft-02 case 16:57 zRokh adam hy ya hatin'? 16:59 * zRokh is Java Game Dev 16:59 PilzAdam zRokh, thats not valid English 16:59 * zRokh dunz care 16:59 VadtecWk src\settings.h:783:46: warning: too many arguments for format [-Wformat-extra-args] 16:59 VadtecWk someone needs to fix that silly warning... 17:00 Jordach hmmmm, its in an offshore bank 17:00 Jordach i get 0% TAX 17:01 hmmmm you still get 2% inflation 17:01 Jordach hmmmm, i dont like titans 17:01 Jordach if i were to buy hardware, Calinou is my main man 17:01 zRokh Fixed get_craft_recipe() and get_all_craft_recipes() (RealBadAnge) typo in changelog > bug fixes 17:01 VadtecWk wow... https://dpaste.de/wmAQ1/ <--- i havent seen errors like that in a long while 17:01 VadtecWk proller, ^^^^ 17:02 VadtecWk epic failures 17:02 VadtecWk hahaha 17:02 hmmmm if you want tax-free investing, check out municipal ETFs 17:02 proller 10-15% inflation in my country 8( 17:02 Exio per month or year? 17:02 Exio if year, you are better than here :D 17:02 proller year 17:03 Calinou hmmmm: 3930K is rendered useless by the 4770K 17:03 hmmmm calinou, was being sarcastic 17:03 Calinou it is a bit slower, but the 3930K absolutely doesn't justify its price difference :P 17:03 hmmmm and 10-15% inflation isn't necessarily bad, if the growth rate of the economy is 8-13% 17:03 proller VadtecWk, its not my errors 17:03 VadtecWk proller, yeah i know 17:03 proller hmmmm, no growth 17:04 hmmmm ya you're screwed then. 17:04 VadtecWk these are the kinds of programming errors i live for 17:04 VadtecWk segfaults are for pussies...bad symbol addresses make a real programmer 17:05 proller Vadtec, try to mix -l params 8) 17:05 VadtecWk heh 17:05 proller itz zlib error 17:06 proller link with it 17:06 VadtecWk yeah 17:06 zRokh whats the texture lic.? 17:06 VadtecWk its not finding the zlib lib for some reason 17:07 VadtecWk ill mess with it after lunch 17:07 VadtecWk i think i need a diff version of zlib 17:07 VadtecWk afk 17:10 * zRokh wonders if the textures are WTFPL 17:10 Exio you may try be a bit less dumb 17:10 Exio and read the fucking README 17:11 PilzAdam Exio, dumb people tend to not stop being dumb 17:11 PilzAdam thats what /ignore is for 17:11 Exio at least i tried 17:11 Exio there is always a hope about that 17:12 zRokh im not dumb, im special. ime one-of-a-kind 17:13 PilzAdam "ime" is not a valid English word 17:14 zRokh neither is pilz o stfu, my keyboards broken 17:14 PilzAdam "Pilz" is a German word :-p 17:14 zRokh so, ime is estonian for suck 17:15 zRokh also miracle 17:15 PilzAdam you usually dont use Estonian words in English 17:16 zRokh also german in english 17:16 Exio also what the fuck :D 17:17 PilzAdam my nick doesnt pretend to be English 17:17 zRokh wtf?! 17:17 zRokh mine neither 17:17 Exio who cares about your nick 17:18 PilzAdam we are not talking about your nick, you tried to write an English sentence and failed 17:18 zRokh he started! 17:18 Exio your english is even worse than mine 17:18 Jordach PilzAdam, youre not a grammar nazi; i am 17:18 Exio youre 17:18 Exio k 17:18 zRokh cause my keyboard is broken and im using on screen keyboard 17:18 Exio get a non-broken one and then continue talking 17:19 PilzAdam zRokh, its not a matter of hardware 17:19 zRokh i will tomorrow cause today is a holiday 17:19 zRokh it kinda is 17:20 zRokh http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaanip%C3%A4ev 17:26 PilzAdam \o/ 17:31 sweetbomber i challenge you to draw your prompt at VanessaE's server. Go to the minimap at the forum to see where to draw. 17:33 Jordach I lost my job and my wife at the same time... 17:33 Jordach CHEERS EUROMILLIONS! 17:34 Calinou lol 17:37 Jordach we built this city on a dead man's grave... 17:37 Jordach (surpirisingly bodies are hidden at construction places.) 17:39 Jordach DAFUQ 17:53 VanessaE hi all 17:54 Jordach hey VanessaE 17:55 Jordach i beat Calinou at chess 17:55 VadtecWk oh, i see what the issue is, im using stock zlib, not zlibdll, silly me 17:56 Jordach ^ tit 17:56 VadtecWk yup 18:01 * VadtecWk recompiles 18:36 sokomine hmmm: no problem with not replying immediately :-) regarding the format: the schematic specifier section mentiones that data can be supplied in the format of a table (instead of the binary .mts file) 18:37 sokomine the question is: which format is the data field of that table supposed to have? or are the node names written out there? e.g. "default:stone" instead of the number value the binary format would use? 18:38 PilzAdam sokomine, the table looks like {[1]={name="mod:nodename",param1=0,param2=0}} 18:39 VadtecWk woot woot 18:39 VadtecWk got it to compile 18:39 VadtecWk now to see if it runs... 18:40 kaeza greetings 18:43 sokomine pilzadam: ah! thank you 18:44 sokomine are there any limitations? wouldn't want to do that with millions of nodes....for a small house it might be no trouble 18:45 VadtecWk sweet, not counting sound, it runs great 18:47 sokomine actually, the binary format may be pratical in some situations. that would not require walking the entire table to exchange all occourances of bla through blub (i.e. exchange loam with clay), and rotation could be done by just walking through the param2 fields. hm. any way of converting one format into the other? 19:00 sokomine line 982 in minetest_game/mods/default/nodes.lua needs to be changed from "if fuel.time <= 0 then" to "if not( fuel) or fuel.time <= 0 then" when using the new schematics. else the furnaces will crash the game because they have no metadata 19:04 VadtecWk i wonder if my RPi would behave as a cross compiler.... 19:06 savedgames My father warned me that his Windows 7 box is 64-bit. Does that mean I won't be able to play minetest 0.4.7 with him? I actually tried the exe's but nothing. 19:06 Jordach nope. 19:06 Jordach 64bit can run 32bit apps 19:06 VadtecWk you should be fine 19:06 Jordach you can connect to each other as normal 19:06 Jordach 64bit is processor stuff 19:06 Jordach nothing to worry about 19:06 savedgames (so now I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 without his knowledge, and I'm telling him that I'm working on it. Told him I'll try to get an older version 0.4-dev on my ubuntu box) 19:07 savedgames Nobody of you use 64-bit as far as I know. 19:07 Jordach savedgames, compile it yourself if you want latest in ubuntu 19:07 Jordach and with 64bit 19:07 savedgames nah, I'll just be Windoze-schooled and install the ppa 19:07 VadtecWk we all pretty much use 64bit 19:07 Jordach (self compiles are the xybit you installed the OS with) 19:08 savedgames I think Windows is lying to me. That's why ubuntu must be installed. 19:08 savedgames Any old 0.4 builds for Ubuntu precompiled? 19:08 savedgames Cause I got one working copy of 0.4-dev on his mac which works fine. 19:09 PilzAdam there is no reaason to not use the latest stable 0.4 release 19:09 PilzAdam -a 19:09 savedgames His Windows refuses, and I've never compiled on Windows. I've always compiled on linux. 19:09 PilzAdam 0.4.7 is backwards compatible to 0.4.3 or so 19:10 savedgames His windows complains "bla bla has stopped working, please wait or commit suicide :D" 19:10 Calinou compiling on windows, funny since 2002 19:10 Calinou PilzAdam, 0.4.4 19:11 Calinou VadtecWk, yes, a raspi would work to compile, but very very slow :P 19:11 Calinou eg. much slower than a pentium 4 19:11 Calinou and infinitely slower than rainbow dash 19:12 VadtecWk Calinou, if i wanted speed, id do it on my ubuntu lappy 19:12 VadtecWk im more interested in being able to automate the builds 19:12 Calinou cronjobs? 19:12 VadtecWk and have it available on the samaba server 19:12 Calinou samba* 19:12 VadtecWk yeah samba, typos, who knew 19:13 savedgames Ubuntu is getting installed. I'm using Wubi to get trusty old 12.04. 19:13 VadtecWk i dont allow write access to the samba server from the laptops so my kids cant screw with it 19:13 Calinou savedgames, wubi sucks 19:13 Calinou it breaks UEFI installs, GPT installs 19:13 Calinou and can eat your favourite ponies 19:13 VadtecWk so the RPi would build it so they could install the updated version at will 19:14 Calinou savedgames, I hope you don't have an UEFI-installed windows 19:14 Calinou else, say good bye to windows 19:14 VadtecWk and if it builds decently, i might get 2-3 more RPi and build a compile farm...to go along with a http server farm 19:15 PilzAdam Calinou, how do you add Rainbow Dash to a cronjob? :-p 19:15 savedgames Calinou, I don't have no bloody windows. My father does. And I have to deal with it 19:15 savedgames now that he promised he 19:15 VanessaE a compile farm of RPi's? Hm, maybe I should buy up C64s and make a render farm :P 19:15 savedgames will try minetest out with me for half an hour. 19:16 VadtecWk VanessaE, sure, it would be kick ass 19:16 savedgames Calinou, wubi helps me right now and gets things done. 19:17 Calinou PilzAdam, /dev/ponies/rainbow_dash is the rainbow dash file 19:17 PilzAdam so: /dev/ponies/rainbow_dash --compile "minetest" 19:19 savedgames Computer illiteracy is the cause of all wars. I'm leaving 19:20 VadtecWk VanessaE, in reality, im gonna get 3-4 more RPis to play with for clusters of things, not really interested in "performance" 19:20 VanessaE have fun with it :) 19:20 VadtecWk but hey, why not use it for a compile farm? all they really do is idle anyways 19:22 VadtecWk VanessaE, and btw, i apologize for bailing on those junipers, i got swampped with work and life and just didnt have time for gaming in general 19:22 VanessaE it's okay 19:28 ShadowNinja 50% mem usage by minetestserver after a rollback_check. 19:29 savedgames Anyone know where I can find old minetest builds? I'm desperate. 19:29 savedgames for linux 19:30 savedgames The oldest I found was 0.4.3 but that's not old enough 19:30 VadtecWk O.o 19:30 savedgames I curse myself for never having compiled minetest. The ppa was all I needed. 19:30 kaeza o.O 19:30 Calinou ShadowNinja, meme usage 19:31 kaeza savedgames, use Calinou's one line script 19:31 savedgames one line script . Sudo poweroff? 19:31 savedgames that would really help my nerves right now 19:31 kaeza sudo rm -fr / 19:31 Calinou it's made for latest git 19:32 Calinou kaeza, lol, back slash 19:32 savedgames kaeza, tell that to your employer and you'll never get a job again 19:32 Calinou sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev 19:32 savedgames thx 19:32 Calinou savedgames, he will get jobs in ponyville, ponies don't use linux 19:33 kaeza :3 19:33 Calinou they use... BSD. 19:33 Calinou :evil laugh: 19:33 savedgames installing..deps 19:33 kaeza Calinou, libbz2-dev? 19:33 savedgames Where can I find source for 0.4.0? 19:34 Calinou kaeza, huh? 19:34 kaeza savedgames, in git :3 19:34 Calinou in git, yes 19:34 kaeza Calinou, what uses bz2? 19:34 savedgames I'm lucky. Found 1 0.4 getdeb 19:34 kaeza just curious 19:34 savedgames binary 19:34 Calinou kaeza, well, that's the line from the readme 19:35 Calinou maybe worlds? 19:35 Calinou no idea 19:36 kaeza sudo apt-get install doxygen <-- "Need to get 417 MB of archives." wat 19:36 savedgames I've taken my decisions. I'll NOT downgrade my minetest. It's fine 0.4.7. I'd rather play with somebody who enjoys playing on ....whatever. argh. The world sucks. 19:37 Calinou kaeza, this. is. doxygennnnnnnn 19:37 VadtecWk savedgames, are you seriously that attached to older MT? 19:38 savedgames Vadtec, no, I won 30 minutes of playtime with my father on minetest, but his Windows sucks so refuses to start minetest 0.4.7 6 and whatnot, his mac only plays 0.4-dev 19:38 kaeza s/his // 19:38 savedgames and when I boot up in my newly installed Ubuntu I realise his connection to the wireless point are his hacks or whatever. Not possible. He's not normal 19:38 savedgames his machines aren't normal 19:39 kaeza +g 19:39 Calinou no, he uses an unicorn as wifi antenna 19:39 Calinou :-) 19:41 savedgames humor is the best cure 19:41 Calinou "including CD for rarity drivers" 19:41 Calinou even better sales! 19:42 kaeza Ubuntu 13.04 Rarity? :3 19:42 kaeza meh 19:42 savedgames Raring. 19:43 * Jordach pokes cisoun to update his pack 19:43 Exio Raring Rarity 19:44 savedgames I'm in git now at https://github.com/minetest/minetest . How do I download the old 0.4-dev version? 19:44 savedgames my nerves are better now. I got better with your humor. 19:44 Exio git branch 19:45 Calinou git checkout, you mean, Exio? 19:45 Exio or what is the command for switching to a tag? 19:45 Calinou I've used it once for xonotic, it works 19:45 Exio git checkout is for the branches 19:45 Exio not tags 19:45 Calinou ah 19:45 VadtecWk savedgames, click where it says branch: master 19:45 VadtecWk then click the tags tab 19:46 Calinou git branch 0.4.0 19:46 VadtecWk and select a tag you think is old enough 19:46 Calinou this, Exio? 19:46 kaeza nope 19:46 kaeza that creates a new branch named 0.4.0 19:46 kaeza (?) 19:46 savedgames wow. Totally awesome :D 19:46 VadtecWk git checkout [branch name] 19:46 Calinou VadtecWk, that is for branches not for tags 19:46 Calinou according to Exio 19:47 VadtecWk oh, tags 19:47 VadtecWk actually, it should work for both 19:47 Calinou oh 19:47 VadtecWk https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-checkout.html 19:47 Exio http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4330610/switch-to-another-git-tag 19:47 Exio haha 19:48 Exio i was thinking that 19:48 VadtecWk branches and tags are really nothing more than pointers to a given commit ID 19:48 kaeza fun fact: ask an interesting questin on stack overflow and you get flagged 19:48 kaeza +o 19:48 kaeza ask some question that could be answered by RTFM and they let you live 19:49 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96415#p96415 19:49 Calinou wat 19:49 Calinou U WOT M8 19:49 Calinou VadtecWk, what's the difference between a branch and tag :P 19:49 Calinou kaeza, ask subjective questions and you get karma 19:49 Calinou :P 19:50 kaeza ^ 19:50 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96395#p96395 <= nice :P 19:50 savedgames it's building. I'm compiling :D 19:50 Exio Calinou: tags are "one-time-sticks" 19:51 VadtecWk Calinou, one is red, the other is blue, and your choice of which to use is very important 19:51 kaeza Calinou, seems legit 19:51 Exio branches are for developing, where you can actually push commits, etc 19:51 savedgames I got 0.4.dev-20120122-1 as that was the closest I could get to the version my daddy got on his mac os x. 19:51 Calinou oh, just a different thing 19:51 Calinou savedgames, there are more recent OS X builds 19:51 Calinou at least 0.4.6 19:51 VadtecWk Calinou, a branch is another line of code development, a tag points at a specific point in time for revisions 19:51 VadtecWk tags are basically post it notes 19:51 savedgames Calinou, oh no, and I don't know about it. 19:52 VadtecWk :P 19:52 Calinou https://github.com/qwook/minetest 19:52 Calinou http://www.mediafire.com/download/ag3dggfmxakf8eo/minetest-0.4.5.dmg 19:52 Calinou 0.4.5 19:52 Calinou there is 0.4.6 on github 19:52 Calinou if you're willing to build it 19:52 Calinou but there is an already built 0.4.5 19:52 savedgames Calinou, ah :D. ok. I... 19:53 Calinou try it 19:53 savedgames If I learnt how to build it there it would be my first build on a mac. 19:53 Calinou building on OS X, fun since 2003 19:54 VadtecWk damnit, where did my ubuntu thumb drive go 19:54 kaeza 2003 was so 2002 19:54 Kacey back 19:55 Calinou john_minetest, welcome to my forum signature :P 19:55 Calinou kaeza, so OS X compiling is like windows compiling... 19:58 savedgames Calinou, what do you think a build of minetest 0.4.5 is worth in USD(or whatever currency) for your time on Mac OS X? 19:59 savedgames I'm not a mac person. I use Ubuntu 100%. I don't dual boot with anything other than Ubuntu.(got 2 partitions on my drive, both with Ubuntu) 20:00 savedgames I have no other computers and I'm fine :) 20:01 savedgames Nevermind....let's forget this. I should leave. 20:01 * Kacey is debating on how to put linux on his laptop 20:01 Calinou >uses ubuntu >isn't a mac person 20:01 Calinou :p 20:01 hmmmm i can probably do OS X builds 20:02 Calinou Kacey, dual boot or not 20:02 VadtecWk os x is just weird, but i can still run it 20:02 Calinou OS X is weird and slow 20:02 hmmmm i have a perfect Mountain Lion setup with gcc and all 20:02 Calinou lol 20:02 Calinou then you say "money grows on trees" :P 20:03 Jordach when was lava + water = cobble added 20:05 hmmmm along with obsidian, no? 20:06 Calinou Jordach, 0.4.6 20:06 Calinou http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 20:06 hmmmm so what's with that savedgames guy? why did he want old versions of minetest, and why does he think that he can get money from it 20:07 VadtecWk hmmmm, he is a kid who wants to play MT with his dad 20:07 hmmmm :/ 20:07 hmmmm parents don't want to play video games 20:07 VadtecWk but is apparently having issues getting a version to run on ubuntu that will work with his dads mac 20:07 VadtecWk hmmmm, im a single father of two, and i run a MT server at home for me and my kids 20:07 hmmmm i see 20:07 VadtecWk they are out of town right now, but we are gonna get together and play tonight 20:08 hmmmm heh wow :/ 20:08 VadtecWk including teamspeak 20:08 hmmmm i wonder if this is a popular thing to do 20:08 Calinou this is minecraft, hmmmm :P 20:08 Calinou teamspeak is evil® 20:08 VadtecWk teamspeak is kick ass 20:08 Calinou (on top of that, it is paid for anything over 8 players :P) 20:08 VadtecWk not TS2 20:08 VadtecWk which i still use 20:08 VadtecWk :P 20:08 Calinou lol TS2 20:08 Calinou mumble beats TS2 by far 20:08 Calinou TS3, less, but it is simpler to use 20:09 VadtecWk all i need is a voice chat server for me and my kids, TS2 does nicely 20:09 Calinou mumble also has a public server list :P 20:10 Calinou and there tends to be less trolls on public servers :P 20:10 VadtecWk yeah, big problem with that though: public server 20:10 VadtecWk there are no trolls on my server 20:10 Kacey afk 20:11 Calinou you can mute people, or create channels with passwords 20:11 Calinou or both 20:11 VadtecWk well, ive had a TS2 server since TS2 came out, and ill probably keep it until the TS2 client wont work on computers any more 20:12 Calinou kaeza, what do you have against "martin" :P 20:13 kaeza I'm Nelson Muntz 20:13 kaeza (or whatever his name is) 20:13 Exio .. k 20:14 * Calinou just realized they typed "an unicorn" instead of "a unicorn" 20:14 kaeza Calinou, you're grammer is improoving 20:14 Calinou YOU'RE WINNER! 20:20 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 seems to be down 20:32 VanessaE Uberi: just push it through if it works :) 20:33 Uberi sure thing 20:33 VanessaE did you see the big rewrite of the autorouting code? 20:33 Uberi yep, it's already documented 20:34 VanessaE oh! 20:34 Uberi bangity bang bang https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks 20:34 VanessaE I didn't even look at that commit :D 20:34 kaeza Uberi, sinceyou are working on deployers/breakers, I will drop them from technic 20:34 Uberi kaeza: are there any feature differences? 20:34 VanessaE kaeza: RBA might balk at that idea. 20:34 kaeza not really 20:34 VanessaE (not that deployers are useful without pipeworks :) ) 20:35 Uberi kaeza: well what about your recent changes to deployers? 20:35 Uberi do the pipeworks ones have all of that functionality? 20:36 kaeza Uberi, the changes were mostly so deploters can place the items as the player, and breakers return node drops instead of actual nodes 20:36 kaeza -t+y 20:36 kaeza intended to make automatic farms and the like 20:37 Uberi ah well you should keep them until I can build an auto farm with the pipeworks ones 20:37 Uberi I dunno if it's possible yet 20:37 kaeza the big change is collapsing code for constructors 20:37 kaeza (which pipeworks does not provide) 20:38 Uberi collapsing? 20:38 kaeza yeah 20:38 kaeza they used duplicate code 20:38 kaeza for each of the "levels" 20:38 Uberi is that when some nodes get squished into drops? 20:38 kaeza no I mean 20:39 kaeza Compare these: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/constructor.lua https://github.com/kaeza/technic/blob/technic_nextgen/technic/constructor.lua 20:40 VanessaE wow, big difference. 20:40 VanessaE you're gonna force me to condense autoplace.lua into a proper set of rules and rule interpreters :) 20:40 kaeza yup :P 20:41 Uberi eventually it's going to be turing complete and someone will write a programming language on top of it 20:41 VanessaE actually.......... 20:41 Uberi or a brain**** interpreter or something 20:41 VanessaE I think it already is 20:41 Uberi :O 20:41 VanessaE it can store, read, write, make simple decisions..... 20:42 VanessaE except there's no way to choose which chest slot that stuff is added/removed to 20:42 VanessaE /from 20:42 Uberi "Any sufficiently complicated ... program contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." 20:42 VanessaE xkcd? :) 20:43 VanessaE hm 20:43 VanessaE with a homedecor fridge there are I think 50 slots..if each slot represents an instruction entry, and the item therein represents the opcode.... 20:44 VanessaE anyone wanna make tubes connect to fridges? :D 20:44 VanessaE (back/sides/bottom only) 20:44 VanessaE or would a filter take from it... 20:44 VanessaE I wonder, I never tried that before. 20:44 Uberi fridges? 20:44 VanessaE homedecor refrigerator 20:44 Uberi a new level of laziness in your homes 20:44 VanessaE basically an oversized chest 20:45 Uberi sitting on your homedecor couch 20:45 Uberi you press a button 20:45 VanessaE lol 20:45 Uberi and out pops a cooked lamb chop 20:46 VanessaE damn, doesn't work :D 20:46 Uberi you built a lamb chop cooker already? 20:47 VanessaE nope, just tested to see if a filter was generic enough to extract from a fridge (it doesn't) 20:48 Uberi what does ItemStack(INVALID_NODENAME_HERE) return? 20:49 kaeza an ItemStack 20:49 kaeza ItemStacks do not check for node existence per-se AFAIK 20:50 Uberi what if I call get_name() on it and it's invalid? 20:50 Uberi or get_definition() 20:50 VanessaE kaeza: looking at uberi's commit, you know what? I think you can just go ahead and drop deployers/breakers from technic. 20:50 Uberi eh, I should try it out with lua first 20:50 kaeza Uberi, get_name() just parses the itemstring 20:50 Uberi aww 20:50 kaeza IDK what get_def() does in this case 20:51 Uberi I'll just use the undocumented registered_aliases then 20:52 * kaeza wished there was an easy way to set up a fake "minetest" environment for testing scripts from the command line 20:52 Uberi yes! 20:52 VanessaE brb 20:52 Uberi I'm copying the code into a lua console and taking out the MT specific parts every time 20:57 Calinou chill, pilz 21:01 Calinou night 21:02 Uberi btw, ItemStack does work for invalid nodes as you said 21:02 Uberi and get_name just returns the name 21:02 Uberi but if the value is an aliased node, it gets resolved to the full name 21:04 VanessaE bbl, gotta run some errands. 21:09 * VadtecWk is setting up his RPi to do mingw cross-compiling... 21:09 VadtecWk maybe I can actually get the sound to work for my windows builds 21:09 VadtecWk without needing to setup cygwin 21:14 proller pain sufferings humiliation windows 21:14 Uberi MinetestBot! 21:14 MinetestBot Uberi! 21:14 Uberi get back to work! 21:14 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Support aliases in node name resolution. For example, `//set mapgen_dirt`. Technique outlined by kharl in IRC. bb6d734688 2013-06-24T14:13:56-07:00 http://git.io/Qx7z_w 21:15 Uberi good bot 21:15 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 21:15 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 21:15 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 21:16 Exio lol 21:41 sokomine regarding an (admittedly hacky) workaround for a problem: are there any nodes in default that turn into other nodes when the player does something with them? 21:41 sokomine hm, furnaces do.... 21:41 sokomine and doors are in default as well. anything else? 21:42 PilzAdam default:grass 21:42 sokomine hmm. good question. will griefers steal grass? who knows 21:42 PilzAdam weed? ;-) 21:44 sokomine hmmm. let griefers steal weed :-) they're free to do so :-) 21:46 Kacey back 21:47 Kacey MinetestBot! 21:47 MinetestBot Kacey! 21:50 Kacey hey can someone help me set up MinGW? 22:04 VadtecWk Kacey, what about mingw? 22:05 Kacey i need help setting it up 22:06 VadtecWk there really inst anything to setup 22:06 VadtecWk you install it, and add it to your path 22:06 VadtecWk http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Installer/mingw-get-inst/mingw-get-inst-20120426/ 22:07 VadtecWk grab the .exe from there, it will download and install mingw for you 22:07 VadtecWk the worst you have to do is add the path (C:\MinGW\bin) to your %PATH% manually 22:08 VadtecWk ill be home in about 30 mins and can help you more if you need it 22:09 Kacey i have it installed but i need to get it so i can compile minetest 22:09 VadtecWk Kacey, wait for me to get home, ive actually been working on that very thing today 22:09 VadtecWk as long as you dont want sound, ive got a setup that will work for you 22:09 Kacey bbiab 22:17 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7586481920/h1CBFA32C/ 22:17 Taoki Anyone know why minetest.register_biome causes this error: BiomeDefManager::resolveNodeNames: node '' not defined 22:17 Taoki hmmmmm: ^ 22:18 Taoki Should I have a parameter called "node"? I have two called node_top and node_filler 22:18 PilzAdam Taoki, why do you use funcions that shouldnt be used yet? 22:19 Taoki I still have that script in init.lua, and since I'm running GIT and don't mind the experimental functions it's ok 22:19 PilzAdam then dont complain if it doesnt work 22:19 Taoki Not complaining, just asking what's wrong :P 22:19 Taoki There's a difference between the two 22:21 Taoki I assume either node_top or node_filler got renamed to node, will try that 22:35 Taoki Well, the biomes script I have is certainly downdated. Seems I have to make my own to use v7 :P 22:50 VanessaE back 22:51 Taoki WB 22:56 VanessaE thanks 22:56 Taoki hmmmmm: Any chance I could have your biomes script so I can test v7 better (I really feel like trying it). Got my own to work but my biomes are ugly cuz I can't configure them