Time Nick Message 00:04 hmmmm duckduckgo's search results are quite inferior to that of google's 00:04 hmmmm more like fuckfuckno 00:05 Exio sadly, that is true 00:08 PilzAdam I dont use search engines very often 00:08 VanessaE bacj 00:08 VanessaE back* 00:19 StarBlessed Back again :) 00:21 Kacey kaeza, i updated technic but deployers still dont work 00:23 kaeza hmm 00:24 Kacey might be my internet now 00:24 Kacey i will update again when i get back 00:30 iqualfragile does minetest support ipv6? 00:30 PilzAdam not yet 00:30 PilzAdam there is a pull request thats about to be merged 00:30 iqualfragile good 00:30 iqualfragile ipv6 is cool stuff 00:30 PilzAdam you can test it 00:31 kaeza what was the tube used to sort stuff in pipeworks? 00:31 iqualfragile later, first some sleep 00:31 PilzAdam who needs sleep? 00:31 kaeza ^ 00:32 iqualfragile well, i do not realy need it but i will be working tomorrow and it might be smart to get at least some sleep 00:32 iqualfragile wait a minute… drowning? 00:33 PilzAdam yes, one minute under water and you are dead 00:33 PilzAdam so "wait a minute" is not a good idea... 00:33 iqualfragile is there some kind of bar or something? 00:33 PilzAdam of course 00:33 iqualfragile and since when is it in minetest? i must have overlooked that commit 00:34 iqualfragile ah, there it is 00:34 hmmmm http://oi42.tinypic.com/66gmq8.jpg 00:34 hmmmm welp =/ 00:35 VanessaE hmmmm: had that happen on a new map with a fir tree also 00:35 hmmmm lol 00:35 VanessaE except at least then it had a tiny sliver of dirt under it 00:35 hmmmm this is placed using my schematic decoration type 00:35 VanessaE (literally 3x1x1 of dirt) 00:35 hmmmm i seriously need to figure out this floating in mid air thing 00:36 hmmmm oh shoot i know why, i forgot to add the flags param 00:36 VanessaE oops. 00:36 hmmmm see, for decoration placement i have a flags parameter where you can specify that you want the decoration centered in the three axes 00:36 VanessaE you still using the old dirt reflow code? 00:36 hmmmm so this would need to be flags="place_center_x, place_center_y" 00:42 sokomine hmmm: what i forgot to ask about your voxeleditor: will it be available after mapgen on already generated areas as well? 00:43 iqualfragile arch realy is a nice distro 00:46 * VanessaE pokes hmmmm 00:48 iqualfragile PilzAdam: works for me 00:49 iqualfragile i have only tested a local server but i used my global ipv6 adress to connect to it 00:51 * Kacey just finished the main storyline in skyrim 01:06 PilzAdam bye 01:07 sokomine hm. where can i upload pictures now? 01:07 sokomine without js and cookies? 01:07 sokomine just screenshots... 01:09 VanessaE not sure really 01:09 VanessaE everywhere seems to at least need js 01:10 VanessaE tinypic seems simple enough 01:10 sokomine that's bad :-( 01:10 * Exio uses his "shell provider" 01:10 Exio :P 01:11 Exio scp ftw 01:11 Exio and good night 01:11 VanessaE I have a personal web space, so I just put everything there. 01:11 VanessaE (rsync) 01:14 StarBlessed My Mediagoblin server uses Python... 01:15 StarBlessed sokomine: You could try uploading there 01:15 StarBlessed sokomine: http://mg.viewskew.com 01:19 sokomine yes, perhaps i'll have to check for space somewhere as well 01:21 StarBlessed sokomine: PilzAdam and I were playing with it earlier. He seems to think it will fill the need for somewhere to post his screens. Im moving all my video's from YouTube there as well :) 01:22 * VanessaE takes StarBlessed's apostrophe and puts it under lock-and-key 01:23 StarBlessed Why's that? Vanessa's dislike's for my apostrophe's is a little annoying? ' '? ' 01:24 * StarBlessed evil grins 01:24 VanessaE because an apostrophe is not a warning that a word is about to be pluralized :) 01:24 StarBlessed You're American aren't you. 01:24 VanessaE yup 01:25 StarBlessed Yeah. Queens English here. 01:25 StarBlessed It's all semantics. 01:26 StarBlessed Great picture sokomine :D 01:26 sokomine the link is perhaps a bit long; but apart from that, it looks ok. thanks for the hint 01:26 sokomine http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/15/screenshot_1768451850.png 01:26 sokomine funny picture showing players stacked at spawn :-) 01:26 StarBlessed You can just use : http://mg.viewskew.com/u/sokomine/m/players-stacked-at-spawn/ 01:27 StarBlessed Or link to your content with http://mg.viewskew.com/u/sokomine/ 01:28 VanessaE noting that picture, it's too bad there's no clear way to specify a static spawn point but with some kind of small "randomness" factor 01:28 VanessaE (i.e. "this coordinate +/- 2m in the X or Z directions" or so) 01:29 sokomine starblessed: it seems like a good idea, that hosting site :-) 01:29 * VanessaE pokes kaeza 01:29 StarBlessed Thanks sokomine. Ive been working my a$$ off trying to get it running properly. 01:30 sokomine i don't think there where really that many players at spawn :-) might be one of the entity-duplication-bugs 01:30 VanessaE sokomine: no, there really were. 01:30 sokomine oh. ok :-) 01:30 VanessaE the server peaked at 10 players 01:30 sokomine that's excellent! nice to have so many players online. i ought to have counted them first instead of just taking the screenshot :-) 01:30 kaeza wha 01:31 kaeza what happened? 01:31 * VanessaE pokes kaeza again 01:31 sokomine and the sheep at spawn seems to behave now. it's only one single sheep 01:31 VanessaE [06-21 21:11] * kaeza has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:31 * kaeza puts a kitten on VanessaE's head 01:31 * VanessaE pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile 01:31 kaeza hmm, I was too concentrated on my industrial-grade cobble generator 01:32 kaeza 45 cobble/sec :O 01:32 VanessaE nice 01:32 hmmmm sokomine, you'll be able to do that with a mod 01:32 VanessaE faster than an admin pick can dig it :) 01:32 kaeza hehe 01:32 kaeza fully automated 01:32 OldCoder Hi 01:32 kaeza a breaker digs it and sends it down the tube 01:32 VanessaE kaeza: using pipeworks and technic nodebreakers, I presume 01:32 VanessaE yep 01:32 OldCoder VanessaE, those kittens will find a home I promise 01:33 VanessaE OldCoder: your pile is starting to overflow again 01:33 kaeza then a detector starts up the breaker again and so on and so on 01:33 * VanessaE scoops up a few strays and puts them back in the pile 01:33 VanessaE kaeza: on my server by chance? 01:33 kaeza local :P 01:33 VanessaE oh. 01:33 sokomine hmmmm: that's fine! thank you. hope that feature gets added soon. it will help a lot with several mods 01:33 VanessaE screenshot? 01:33 kaeza [22:30:44] [06-21 21:11] * kaeza has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:34 * sokomine picks one of the kittens out of oldcoders pile, paints it pink and sells it as a nyan cat 01:34 VanessaE sokomine: here-- *hands you some rainbow paint* -- you forgot to paint the tail 01:35 sokomine oh, yes, of course! 01:35 * sokomine takes some cobble and paints it over 01:35 sokomine there! great nyan-cat. can even get miau. needs to be fed 01:38 OldCoder kaeza, hey 01:38 OldCoder There you go 01:38 kaeza VanessaE, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1770281053.jpg 01:38 kaeza hey OldCoder 01:38 OldCoder We can start a kitten market 01:39 OldCoder and even turn a profit 01:39 VanessaE kaeza: nice 01:39 kaeza also: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1770293569.jpg 01:39 VanessaE what's the pink stuff all over? 01:39 VanessaE (looks like the top of a nyan cat) 01:39 sokomine kitten market sounds like a good idea 01:40 kaeza pink stuff? 01:40 OldCoder ' 01:41 kaeza OldCoder, you are not supposed to click that 'X' 01:41 kaeza :P 01:41 kaeza VanessaE, ah you mean the sand? 01:41 VanessaE ah, figured it might be desert sand 01:41 kaeza yup 01:42 VanessaE interesting texture. 01:42 kaeza part of the SMB3 texture pack 01:42 VanessaE ah 01:42 kaeza coming SOON™ 01:43 kaeza also, I didn't notice it was pink lol 01:43 kaeza <-- colorblind, remember? 01:43 kaeza to me it was green :P 01:43 sokomine oh? 01:43 * VanessaE frowns at her server suddenly having dropped down from the top of the list :( 01:44 kaeza and now firing up the AWESOMEST LAG MACHINE! 01:44 kaeza guaranteed 5FPS! 01:48 * kaeza sees as his third golden chest gets filled with cobble 01:49 VanessaE kaeza: try it with gloopblocks installed, you'll get obsidian and/or basalt and/or pumice then 01:52 kaeza link? 01:52 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4019 01:52 VanessaE (use the github link) 01:52 VanessaE it adds a number of other blocks of various levels of usefulnes 01:56 kaeza do I need glooptest? 01:56 VanessaE nope, should be able to use this without it 01:56 VanessaE about all it's needed for is those "evil" tools. 01:56 VanessaE (and the block) 01:56 kaeza ah ok 01:57 VanessaE and then only to craft them 01:57 kaeza BTW, glooptest github link is broken :( 01:58 VanessaE looks like I'll have to upload a copy of it. 01:58 VanessaE gimme a few. 02:00 kaeza you bwoke my generator :( 02:01 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/glooptest 02:01 VanessaE I didn't mean to bwoke it! :'( 02:01 kaeza lava does not cool off 02:01 kaeza water needs to be exactly above lava to cool 02:03 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1771948784.jpg 02:03 VanessaE oh, probably because I check for face-adjacent ndoes only 02:03 VanessaE nodes* 02:04 VanessaE I guess uninstall it :-/ 02:04 hmmmm http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130620/15390323549/nsa-has-convinced-fisa-court-that-if-your-data-is-encrypted-you-might-be-terrorist-so-itll-hang-onto-your-data.shtml 02:05 kaeza not yet 02:05 VanessaE hmmmm: if they can't confirm you're a US citizen, you're automatically a foreigner now, also. 02:05 VanessaE (read: ToR users) 02:05 VanessaE TOR* 02:06 hmmmm yup 02:11 kaeza "I use double ROT-13, it's double plus good." <-- LOL 02:12 Mallot1 hey 02:13 Mallot1 where can i learn Lua? 02:14 kaeza http://lua.org/pil/ 02:14 Mallot1 thanks : 02:14 kaeza ) 02:14 Mallot1 ) 02:15 kaeza | 02:15 Mallot1 :P 02:16 Mallot1 awwww 02:16 Mallot1 i have to buy the book? :/ 02:16 kaeza nope 02:17 kaeza 1st ed. is free AFAIK 02:17 VanessaE just read it online, Mallot1 02:17 Mallot1 buy is it relevant? 02:17 kaeza I don't use it, so I can't say 02:17 StarBlessed Mallot1: http://lua.gts-stolberg.de/en/index.php 02:17 Mallot1 ok thanks people :D 02:18 kaeza if you have prior experience in programming, learning Lua from the manual should be enough 02:18 Mallot1 i do 02:18 Mallot1 i like video tutorials better, but i'll use what i got :) 02:21 VanessaE video tutorials don't give you code snippets you can copy&paste from to play with 02:22 Mallot1 the code is sometimes in the description 02:23 Mallot1 and its good practice to wite the code. Then you remember it better ( at least for me ) :) 02:24 VanessaE thexyz: *poke* 02:24 Mallot1 lol :P 02:25 Mallot1 ummm, theres almost nothing on this page: StarBlessed http://lua.gts-stolberg.de/en/index.php 02:27 StarBlessed Mallot1: its a starter. I didn't realize you had experience with programming. 02:29 * Kacey sucks at lua 02:33 Mallot1 StarBlessed: ok thanks anyway man :D 03:09 Kacey it got quiet... 03:09 VanessaE yep 03:09 Kacey i thought i timed out 03:10 Mallot1 lol 03:13 Kacey hey VanessaE i have no idea how to make a new tube outside of pipeworks 03:13 StarBlessed Kinda like - Kacey has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 03:13 Kacey as in, register one in a new mod 03:13 VanessaE Kacey: better to ask Novatux how he did it 03:13 VanessaE just make it part of pipeworks and pull-request it 03:14 VanessaE I'll look at it and merge if it's good 03:14 VanessaE be sure your pipeworks is fully up-to-date before you do though 03:14 Kacey but would it be pipeworks.register_tube() or what? 03:14 VanessaE not sure, Novatux wrote that part 03:14 VanessaE but try it anyway 03:15 Kacey uugh later n++ is being stupid tonight 03:16 VanessaE if you're gonna develop as a mod outside of pipeworks, you have to put pipeworks into your depends.txt 03:17 Kacey i know that 03:17 VanessaE what's the issue? 03:17 Kacey i just have no idea how to register a tube outside of pipeworks by using the pipeworks api 03:18 VanessaE looking at the code, it should just be register_tube() 03:18 VanessaE (without the 'pipeworks.' part) 03:18 Kacey but i am in a different mod registering. meh i will try both ways 03:19 VanessaE though I guess I should fix that in the near future. maybe when Uberi and I decide on a proper API 03:19 VanessaE the function name is just register_tube() and it's global, so that's how you have to call it 03:19 VanessaE function register_tube(name,desc,plain_textures,noctr_textures,end_textures,short_texture,inv_texture,special) 03:20 VanessaE I wonder how many hundreds of total nodes pipeworks has now :P 03:20 Kacey alright 03:21 Kacey what does noctr_textures do 03:21 VanessaE there are what, 7 or 8 types now? So that's upwards of 512 nodes (!) 03:21 VanessaE the nctr one is used for tubes that are 'cut off' at the end 03:21 VanessaE e.g. tubes that just stick out somewhere but aren't connected. 03:22 VanessaE noctr means there's no graphic in the center of the texture, so scratch that 03:22 VanessaE it's probably used on the ends of all pipe segments. 03:22 VanessaE fuck if I remember now :D 03:23 Kacey lol i wish i could talk to nore/novatux 03:36 jojoa1997|Tablet hello 03:36 VanessaE hey 03:41 ShadowNinja Someone had an idea for pipeworks/mesecons. Allow the LuaController to controll items. This would probably be done with digilines and a control segment. 03:41 VanessaE that exists in mesecons already and pipes already have mesecons integration 03:41 VanessaE oh ALLOW, I read that as "add" 03:42 VanessaE but anyway, there are valves, pumps, and flow sensors that respond to/emit mesecons signals, and there are tubed devices that also do. 03:43 VanessaE luacontrollers can talk to normal mesecons wires, no? 03:43 ShadowNinja As in LuaController asks for this item. 03:43 VanessaE ahh 03:43 VanessaE that's something best done by tweaking the two "filter/injector" devices. 03:44 VanessaE probably also the object detector needs to be able to emit a status message if it detects a certain item, too 03:44 VanessaE pull requests are certainly welcome 03:44 VanessaE (I don't know the digilines API yet) 03:46 ShadowNinja Is there a directional switch? 03:46 VanessaE not one that responds to a mesecons signal 03:46 VanessaE the closest thing would be a chest with a pipe on one side, and two or three filters on the other sides, each with appropriate wiring 03:47 VanessaE (presuming a filter that can accept a digilines message) 03:47 ShadowNinja Hmmm, maybe if I have time... 03:47 VanessaE no time like the present ;) 03:48 VanessaE pipes have a similar capability, in that you can use a mesecons signal to turn a valve on/off, so you could arrange a series of valves feeding off of a common pipeline, each with a different destination and appropriate wiring to control them 03:49 Tesseract It would be nice if you could control mese tubes with digilines. 03:49 VanessaE that's what shadow was just saying. 03:50 VanessaE if someone codes it and it works well enough, I'll merge it 03:50 Tesseract <-- == ShadowNinja 03:51 Tesseract This is off someone else's server. 03:51 VanessaE oh duh 03:54 VanessaE (I tend to forget that) 03:56 Tesseract Actually did ShadowBot quit or was it deoped manually for some reason? 03:57 ShadowNinja Ok, it quit. 03:58 VanessaE dunno 04:00 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I mean I saw it quit. 04:03 VanessaE I read that as "ok, I quit" heh 04:09 thexyz VanessaE: ? 04:09 VanessaE thexyz: can you set me as the owner of this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4345 04:10 VanessaE so that neko doesn't show up some time or other and start deleting content (he already deleted his repos, so I plugged my own copies in so the mod doesn't get lost) 04:10 thexyz why is he unbanned? 04:11 VanessaE beats me, I didn't realize he'd been banned to begin with 04:12 thexyz crap 04:12 kaeza uh oh 04:12 kaeza * thexyz, just wiped the forums 04:12 kaeza :P 04:12 kaeza -, 04:15 thexyz let's see who did that 04:15 Kacey see yall tomorrow 04:15 VanessaE (if I did, I don't remember doing so) 04:25 khonkhortisan I only noticed that nekogloop was quieter here 04:25 VanessaE khonkhortisan: because he "left" as so many others have 04:25 VanessaE (he just didn't take to blanking his posts like last time) 04:37 khonkhortisan line 37 is "if minetest.registered_nodes[node.name].is_vertical_conductor then" that would mean the node at that position isn't registered? 04:38 khonkhortisan it looks possible, vertical_update checks the nearby nodes 04:41 thexyz uh crap, for now let's ban him again 04:41 VanessaE crap what? 04:41 khonkhortisan Okay, so I got it to crash at line 56 by placing a vertical wire on top of an unregistered rubix cube. But it's the same crash, just with a different direction to the bad node. 04:43 khonkhortisan there we go. 56 is the below node when placing, 37 is when removing. 04:44 thexyz VanessaE: I can't find who deleted this ban 04:44 VanessaE huh. 04:44 VanessaE oh well 05:06 khonkhortisan I can pull mods, texture packs, games, minetest, and compile without typing in a password, but I need to type one for every server I join 05:06 VanessaE sad, ain't it. 05:06 khonkhortisan yep 05:06 VanessaE I asked for that capability months ago. 05:06 VanessaE I was ignored. 05:06 khonkhortisan It will be asked for again. 05:06 khonkhortisan and again... and again... and again... 05:07 VanessaE and ignored again...and again...and again 05:07 khonkhortisan I vote for plaintext password, then when someone becomes concerned with security then we obscure it 05:08 khonkhortisan bzflag stores passwords. firefox stores passwords. phones store passwords. 05:08 VanessaE just store it as whatever the hash is that's sent to the server, in a user-only-readable file, and then who gives two shits after that? 05:09 khonkhortisan that shouldn't be too hard 05:09 VanessaE if someone gets into your PC, you've got bigger problems than your oh-so-precious minetest passwords.... 05:09 VanessaE so let's just not overcomplicate it for now 05:10 VanessaE if you're that paranoid, encrypt your hard drive. 05:10 khonkhortisan http://xkcd.com/1200/ 05:10 VanessaE apropos. 05:11 khonkhortisan I look up that word, and the adverb says it's unrelated, the adjective says it's appropriate. 05:13 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Decoration: Add Schematic decoration type c1b829077a 2013-06-21T22:11:52-07:00 http://git.io/SS2XlQ 05:33 sfan5 hi 05:34 khonkhortisan hello 05:34 VanessaE hi 05:38 khonkhortisan your server just shut down 05:39 VanessaE whose? mine? 05:39 khonkhortisan yes 05:39 khonkhortisan this minute 05:39 VanessaE someone musta used a vertical wire again. 05:39 VanessaE yep 05:39 VanessaE that's what happened. 05:39 VanessaE 01:38:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaE 05:39 VanessaE rror: error: ...s/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_extrawires/vertical.lua:37: att 05:39 VanessaE brb, busy (unrelated) 05:43 hmmmm hmm 05:43 hmmmm if Uberi is around, be sure to tell him about this https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/pull/24 05:44 khonkhortisan *sigh* again 05:45 sfan5 hmmmm: I'll be taking a look at it 05:45 hmmmm i'm sure there are style issues, i tried to copy what was already there as closely as possible though 05:46 hmmmm just modify it as you'd like 06:16 khonkhortisan I build a 7x79 stone rectangle, look back, and there's three rats on it 06:17 VanessaE they don't waste any time huh? :) 06:17 khonkhortisan I made a giant rat generator 06:17 khonkhortisan they live off that stuff 06:17 khonkhortisan night 06:20 VanessaE heh 06:20 VanessaE night. 06:28 sfan5 hmmmm: I merged it 06:29 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add initial support for Minetest schematic API a192d51a58 2013-06-21T23:25:59-07:00 http://git.io/sDy0Iw 06:30 hmmmm ah great, thanks 06:49 Calinou hi 06:50 VanessaE hi 07:09 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96032#p96032 07:09 Calinou 9500GT, lol 07:09 VanessaE I'm lost when it comes to nVidia part numbers. 07:09 VanessaE (my last was a vanilla GF 6800) 07:10 Calinou it's a low end, rebranded and 5 year old card :P 07:10 Calinou onpon4 is, again, disconnected from the reality 07:10 Calinou fun fact: there are now IGPs (HD4600/7660D) which are faster than that 9500GT 07:11 VanessaE shit, there are probably IGPs that are faster than my HD6870. 07:11 Calinou nope 07:12 Calinou the best IGP (7660D) is as fast as a 6670 with DDR3 07:12 Calinou and a low end card from today (HD 7750/GTX 650) is twice as fast 09:01 VanessaE bbl 09:42 StarBlessed Hey Jordach :) Moved my vidz to http://mg.viewskew.com 09:42 StarBlessed Im just downloading all my content from G+/Picasa, then shutting down the accounts :D 09:44 Calinou before shutting down the accounts, be sure to put a pony on your head! 09:44 Calinou like john_minetest did 09:51 StarBlessed LOL 09:58 issa_ Salem alikoum 10:00 StarBlessed wa `alaykumu s-salāmu wa rahmatu l-lāhi wa barakātuh 10:00 issa_ :) 10:02 StarBlessed Hi issa_. Im sorry, its all the Arabic I know. 10:02 issa_ cool 10:02 issa_ it's cool to show that 10:03 StarBlessed I know what it means though :D 10:07 StarBlessed While I may not believe, I respect ;) 10:08 issa_ i have created a server for 30 min 10:08 issa_ 54.226.236.98 10:08 StarBlessed Thanks issa_, but Im actually working on my Diaspora and Mediagoblin websites at the moment. Otherwise I might have joined you. :) 10:10 Calinou ceiling google is watching you use decentralized services 10:10 Calinou ceiling Calinou is watching ceiling google 10:10 * sfan5 puts a pony on Calinou's head 10:11 StarBlessed ceiling StarBlessed is watching ceiling Calinou 10:11 * StarBlessed steals Calinou's pony for his own head. 10:11 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Calinou's head 10:12 * StarBlessed steals Calinou's kitten and places it on the pony on his own head. *TRIPLE THREAT BONUS* 10:12 * sfan5 puts a TNT on StarBlessed's head 10:13 StarBlessed Dont make me creeper your a$$ 10:18 * StarBlessed sets off the TNT.... BOOM! *Fatality!* 11:07 rubenwardy I am going on holiday to portugal for 2 weeks 11:12 rubenwardy spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96068#p96068 11:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:12 rubenwardy I am going on holiday to portugal for 2 weeks tomorrow, so I will not be online. 11:14 arsdragonfly hello guys 11:14 arsdragonfly PilzAdam how to change language translations locally? 11:14 PilzAdam wut? 11:15 arsdragonfly I need to test some translations on my own machine 11:15 arsdragonfly I changed the .po file and then $ make translations 11:16 arsdragonfly but it doesn't seem to work 11:17 StarBlessed Hey PilzAdam :) 11:17 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, you cant translate Lua with gettext 11:18 PilzAdam StarBlessed, hi :-) 11:18 arsdragonfly PilzAdam, nope I just altered some strings that already existed 11:19 PilzAdam you can only translate strings that are in the engine (i.e. c++) 11:19 arsdragonfly oh wait 11:19 StarBlessed Finally moved the Minetest vidz to Mediagoblin :) I whould be up and running again soon :D 11:19 * rubenwardy might rewrite the node box generator 11:19 arsdragonfly I copied the minetest directory and forgot to run cmake . 11:19 arsdragonfly sorry about that 11:28 rubenwardy What happens when you give my brother "the nodebox generator": http://ubuntuone.com/3zny8sI5pprEjbbXJE7wmZ 11:29 rubenwardy He says it is a creeper. I dont believe him. 11:29 Jordach PENIS 11:30 StarBlessed Did you just upload a Windoze screenshot to UbuntuOne? lol 11:30 StarBlessed Hey Jordach :) 11:30 Jordach hey StarBlessed 11:30 Jordach just playing Age of Empires 11:31 StarBlessed Nice. Hey, did you see this? http://us.anno-online.com/en/homepage 11:32 StarBlessed One of my all time fav games... Online... Free to play... MULTIPLAYER! 11:32 rubenwardy It is slightly ironic, StarBlessed 11:32 rubenwardy I have a win7/ubuntu dual boot 11:32 Jordach [off] PA is gones, lets fix Minetest_game 11:32 StarBlessed I still have my old Win95 installer. I play it in DOSEmu :D 11:36 * rubenwardy is not sure whether he should release capture the flag or not 11:41 rubenwardy What kind of multiplayer, StarBlessed? Are there loads of players on one map, or do you have to teleport to other player's maps? 11:41 rubenwardy I have Anno 1404 11:41 StarBlessed Hehe! I dont know rubenwardy. Im just updating my flash player so I can give it a go. I only found out about it this morning :D 11:42 StarBlessed Unfortunately, Im downloading about 12 different things at the moment, so updating my Distro may take a while ;) 11:42 StarBlessed Here's the trailer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91VBBvh1aww 11:42 StarBlessed There's some screens at the end. 11:46 * Calinou puts a pony on Jordach's head 11:46 Calinou [vote which pony now, again] 11:46 * Jordach removes pony 11:48 * StarBlessed votes for Morning Glory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Flutter_Ponies 11:55 * Calinou makes inception face 11:56 StarBlessed Heh 11:58 Calinou also, that name has a high twss factor :3 11:58 StarBlessed You see my point 11:59 Calinou what point 12:01 StarBlessed ITS AWESOME! 12:01 * StarBlessed grins 12:03 StarBlessed Back later. Gonna chill in front of the boob tube 12:04 sfan5 Calinou: http://i.imgur.com/xCm7RHh.png 12:04 Calinou boob tube, seems legit 12:04 sfan5 ( http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest ) 12:05 Calinou lol 12:05 Calinou O_o 12:12 Jordach that used to be non free 12:15 rubenwardy it is open source now? 12:17 Jordach YES 12:18 Jordach https://github.com/GarageGames/Torque3D 12:18 rubenwardy amazingf 12:19 Jordach i might create a free fps sci-fi deathmatch engine 12:19 Calinou john_minetest: hai 12:19 * Calinou puts derpy hooves on john_minetest's head 12:19 Jordach with CoD elements 12:20 Calinou rubenwardy: since like 6 months at least :P 12:20 rubenwardy amazing 12:20 Calinou oh also, the linux port isn't complete, iirc 12:20 Calinou and compared to today's AAA engines, it is dated, even if you can make cool stuff with it 12:22 * john_minetest puts Tootsie Flute Tornado bolt on Calinou's head 12:30 rubenwardy How many rainbows are there in a nyancat's tail? 12:31 rubenwardy is it random? 12:34 sfan5 rubenwardy: yes 12:37 Calinou usually 3-8 12:41 sfan5 rubenwardy: yes7 12:41 sfan5 oops 12:42 Calinou john_minetest: never saw one 12:50 Calinou lol @ world of text 13:36 arsdragonfly https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/783 13:36 arsdragonfly check this out 13:37 rubenwardy Treasure map competition! http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest 13:39 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, have you used util/updatepo.sh? 13:40 arsdragonfly yes 13:40 sfan5 rubenwardy: found it 13:41 arsdragonfly cuz they're not internationalized before 13:41 rubenwardy thought you might 13:41 arsdragonfly so there are some new strings 13:43 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, seems good 13:43 arsdragonfly :-d 14:57 Kacey bbl 15:44 MarkTwain Hello everyone! 15:51 Zeg9 When I read "Hello everyone!" I thought it was Adam... 15:52 PilzAdam when I read "Zeg9" I thought it was Zeg9... 16:02 * Exio reverse dns lookups john_minetest 16:03 MarkTwain http://www.yourworldoftext.com/markveidemanis 16:16 Zeg9 echo 'while [ 1 = 1 ]; do nohup $0 &; done' > freecode.sh; chmod +x freecode.sh; ./freecode.sh 16:17 khonkhortisan I now have four distinct crashes written down 16:18 Zeg9 The NoHup manager allows downloading all games from steam, for free and legally. Just run the script mentioned above to start it. 16:19 khonkhortisan haha got a commit in when MinetestBot wasn't looking 16:22 Zeg9 how do i run a cpp file? 16:22 Exio Zeg9: i would replace [ 1 = 1 ] for true or : 16:22 Exio and &;? 16:22 Exio just use & 16:23 arsdragonfly|pho What is &0? 16:23 Exio $0 is the self program 16:23 Zeg9 &; is because I replaced all newlines with ';'... 16:23 Zeg9 and, well, [ 1 = 1 ] I have no excuse :p 16:24 Exio &; doesn't work 16:24 Exio :P 16:35 sfan5 cmon! someone write something to http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest 16:40 MarkTwain how do i highlight? 16:41 khonkhortisan MarkTwain, that's how. 16:41 MarkTwain ... 16:42 MarkTwain in yourworldoftext 16:43 Kacey i wrote something 16:54 MarkTwain http://collabedit.com/ggdc9 16:58 Kacey hey can anyone help me make a new mod? 16:59 Kacey collabedit doesnt have a lua setting 16:59 MarkTwain http://www.showdocument.com/56137 17:01 Kacey http://collabedit.com/6nhqm to help with my mod 17:03 MarkTwain http://www.showdocument.com/56137 to help with my script 17:04 sfan5 didn't someone make a worldoftext topic on the forums? 17:05 Zeg9 In general discussion iirc 17:06 sfan5 ah, right 17:12 * Zeg9 leaves :D 17:27 Kacey hey can someone test my code? http://collabedit.com/6nhqm is the code 17:29 Mallot1 sure 17:29 Mallot1 how 17:30 PilzAdam Kacey, that link is a redirect trap 17:32 Mallot1 is it just c code? 17:34 MarkTwain hi again 17:35 MarkTwain Who wants to make a mod with me? 17:35 kaeza afternoons 17:35 MarkTwain kaeza:hi 17:36 khonkhortisan Who wants to add euler angles to commonlib so that mesecon conducting rules can be rotated by facedir so a screwdriver to make a wall circuit will actually work? 17:37 MarkTwain https://c9.io/markveidemanis/minetest 17:37 MarkTwain do what you want lol 17:37 MarkTwain just tell me which mod you want to edit 17:39 khonkhortisan the minetest folder won't open 17:40 khonkhortisan "If you don't own this project you can request editing rights ot project admins" Why would I want to change the list of admins? 17:40 Kacey Mallot1, make a folder in mods called moretubes 17:41 Kacey place a depends.txt with the word pipeworks in it 17:41 MarkTwain khonk... 17:41 MarkTwain il make a file 17:42 khonkhortisan Don't use software that confuses write permissions with read permissions. 17:42 Kacey make an init.lua and paste the code in 17:42 Kacey and then start a world with moretubes enabled and see if it all works 17:44 PilzAdam lol, khonk 17:44 Exio lol, pilz 17:44 * Exio runs 17:45 D-Man can u hear me 17:45 PilzAdam lol, Princess Exio 17:45 D-Man if u can ping me 17:45 khonkhortisan idk, can we? 17:45 Exio no, we can't D-Man 17:45 D-Man ok 17:45 Exio PilzAdam: ew skype 17:46 D-Man whats sip 17:46 Kacey afk 17:46 D-Man kk 17:46 D-Man hey, my name is: 17:47 Exio D-Man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol 17:47 Exio ew 17:47 Exio Mallot1: ^ 17:47 Exio VoIP :P 17:47 Mallot1 oh :D 17:51 STHGOM_ hi 17:53 khonkhortisan That's a bad design. Without anything in the folder, it won't open (the arrow turning) 17:53 khonkhortisan It also has nagware trying to get me to sign up as I'm browsing. Github doesn't do that. 17:57 kaeza don't you feel like every random website is turning into a social platform? 17:58 kaeza 71.4s of lag ;_; 18:09 VanessaE kaeza: I'm afraid so. 18:09 VanessaE hi all. 18:10 kaeza hey V 18:11 VanessaE Kacey: how do you plan to make these isolated tubes connect elsewhere? 18:11 VanessaE to what, other than themselves, will they connect? 18:13 kaeza hi sparky 18:15 kaeza it's caturday! 18:17 kaeza :/ 18:18 Mallot1 :D 18:21 VanessaE Kacey: I've fixed the code. what you see in its current state works. you need to supply some suitable textures. 18:23 VanessaE Kacey: you can't register the tube name outside of the pipeworks: namespace, but looking at my code (actually, Nore wrote this function), it should be a simple tweak to make that possible. 18:24 VanessaE Kacey: unfortunately, the new tubes still connect to the old ones. 18:24 VanessaE so you'll have to submit a patch to pipeworks to make that not happen. 18:25 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5790391/ 18:26 VanessaE the code, for those who don't wanna futz with the site Kacey put it on initially. 18:27 MarkTwain i just made a fast game! 18:28 MarkTwain 4 blocks 18:40 sfan5 hello deepgaze 18:45 kaeza hey BlockMen 18:45 BlockMen hello kaeza 18:46 BlockMen just answered on you reply 18:46 BlockMen *+r 18:46 Kacey back 18:46 VanessaE Kacey: ^^^^^^ scroll up and read 18:46 Kacey i see it 18:48 VanessaE if you'll make me a pull request that inclues your code + the necessary patch to the tube autorouting algorithm so that the new tubes won't connect to the old, I'll supply the necessary textures and put it into master. 18:49 VanessaE (I ask for appropriate isolation tweaks because I can see a use for as many as three separate pipelines running side by side) 18:50 VanessaE (anything more than that isn't needed - the user could just alternate between the three sets of tubes to keep running more parallel pipelines) 18:54 Deepgaze hello 18:54 VanessaE hi 18:55 Deepgaze how are you 18:55 VanessaE doing okay 18:55 Deepgaze what do you think of my world of text 18:56 VanessaE haven't messed with it (not really interested) 18:56 Deepgaze it is fun!! and pepole talk about you 18:57 VanessaE Kacey: did you get my last comments? 18:57 Kacey uum no which ones? 18:57 VanessaE Deepgaze: meh, let 'em talk. I don't care. 18:57 VanessaE Kacey: see msg 18:57 VanessaE (to avoid flooding) 18:57 Calinou hi 18:58 VanessaE hi 18:58 sfan5 Vadtec: http://i.imgur.com/ZGZQaFj.png 19:03 sfan5 derp 19:03 sfan5 VanessaE: : http://i.imgur.com/ZGZQaFj.png 19:03 VanessaE meh 19:04 VanessaE (I don't know one MLP from another) 19:04 sfan5 http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Diamond_Tiara 19:07 Calinou dat ubuntu 19:08 sfan5 Calinou: :/ 19:09 VanessaE sfan5: meh, whatever 19:10 * Calinou didn't open that link 19:11 VanessaE Calinou: the imgur link was just a page of random text, the second was describing a snobby MLP that someone figured must be my favorite. 19:11 Calinou no, I mean the MLP wikia one 19:12 VanessaE bbl, gotta run a couple errands. 19:12 Calinou I know about the world of text thingy 19:14 proller Calinou, you can grief on "DEV fractal world", 32^km of sponge for you 19:14 proller ~ 30^3 19:14 Calinou nothing to grief on that server, sorry 19:14 Calinou :-) 19:15 proller destroy pillars! 19:16 Calinou since when these pillars were built by players that are my enemies 19:17 * Kacey is going to make an epic house 19:17 Kacey better than VanessaE's house 19:24 MarkTwain does anyone know of something LIKE the arduino but on lua or python? 19:24 MarkTwain like an irc luacontroller 19:25 MarkTwain *irl 19:25 Uberi MarkTwain: Arduino 19:25 Uberi or raspberry pi if you really want to run dynamic languages on it 19:25 Uberi khonkhortisan: did you force push to Mesecons? git is showing some crazy commit history 19:27 MarkTwain i need something simple and cheap+light 19:28 MarkTwain with a portable battery 19:28 MarkTwain just a controller and some inputs 19:29 Calinou raspberry pi? you need to buy the battery yourself 19:29 Calinou of course 19:29 Uberi MarkTwain: usually those require compilable languages 19:32 Calinou lua is compilable 19:32 Calinou luajit :-) 19:33 Uberi so is python, to bytecode 19:33 PilzAdam Calinou, not only jit 19:33 Uberi and Pyrex/Cython/RPython/etc. 19:34 MarkTwain entity collision stops sand... 19:34 proller MarkTwain, slowberry pi, odroid 19:34 Calinou it was removed by a pull request, MarkTwain 19:34 Calinou it is likely to be merged 19:34 Calinou lol slowberry pi 19:35 Calinou finally someone agrees with me :P 19:35 Uberi it takes 20 seconds to open a media player, it's not exactly speedy 19:35 MarkTwain just a circuit board 19:35 MarkTwain with a similar api to lua 19:35 proller odroid faster than slowberry in x15 19:35 MarkTwain and names for ports 19:36 Uberi MarkTwain: arduino 19:36 Calinou and pentium 4 ×15 faster than "odroid" :P 19:37 MarkTwain what if i have under £20 to spend? 19:38 Uberi what's the pound to USD conversion factor these days? 19:38 MarkTwain okay under $20 19:38 MarkTwain doesnt matter too much 19:38 MarkTwain not for under $/£20 19:38 PilzAdam whats that in Euro? :-p 19:38 Uberi so $10 then plus shipping 19:40 Uberi for that price pretty much just the PICs, no batteries included 19:41 Calinou nothing for below $20, really 19:42 Uberi PICs are about $1.50 per chip, they ship from the US for about $12 in ~3 days 19:42 Uberi but you also need a PIC programmer board, which is about $75 19:43 Uberi (all prices are USD) 19:43 MarkTwain http://store.arduino.cc/eu/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_12&products_id=245 19:43 MarkTwain 18 19:43 MarkTwain i am going to need a little bit more than a controller 19:43 Uberi MarkTwain: good luck getting it shipped with 2 dollars :P 19:43 Calinou also, why do you need one :P 19:43 MarkTwain thanks :) 19:43 MarkTwain idk 19:43 MarkTwain just like them 19:43 Calinou see, "idk" 19:44 Calinou means, you do not need them 19:44 MarkTwain i thought i'd get a life from minetest and luacontrollers 19:44 MarkTwain so id take them into real life LOL 19:44 Uberi git is acting up again 19:44 Uberi who force pushed into Mesecons? 19:44 * Calinou shrug 19:45 Calinou https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 19:45 Uberi and where is minetestbot these days 19:45 Calinou probably on "your world of text" 19:46 Uberi oh man I wasted so much time there 19:46 Calinou heh, it's fun sometimes :P 19:47 Uberi does anyone have any examples of the table format for Minetest Schematics? 19:47 MarkTwain can someone find me it on ebay? 19:47 MarkTwain im in uk 19:48 Uberi what does "in the order of [z [y [x]]]" mean? what keys do we use in the Lua table? 19:48 Uberi is ebay blocked in the UK now? 19:49 MarkTwain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIC_microcontroller 19:51 Uberi MarkTwain: you're looking for PICs on ebay? 19:51 MarkTwain idk what i want 19:51 MarkTwain just for it to work 19:51 MarkTwain like the luacontroller or similar 19:52 Uberi MarkTwain: does it matter how it's programmed? PICs are programmed mainly in C or assejbly language 19:52 MarkTwain yes, preferably lua 19:52 Uberi but it's a really easy RISC 19:52 MarkTwain or python 19:52 kaeza wut 19:52 Uberi MarkTwain: you won't find anything super portable with any dynamic languages like Lua/Python 19:52 Calinou kaeza, the 19:52 Calinou hi :) 19:52 kaeza hai Calinou 19:53 Calinou kaeza, http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest 19:53 kaeza Calinou, seen that, wrote a bit 19:53 Uberi although maybe you can compile rpython and then run that through the PIC C compiler 19:53 * Calinou puts rarity on john_minetest's head, since we are out of derpy hooves for now 19:53 kaeza minetext* 19:53 kaeza ^ somebody should make a text-mode minetest client 19:54 * john_minetest puts a robot rainbow unicorn on Calinou's head because we have a lack of ponies in general. 19:54 OldCoder kaeza, absolutely 19:54 OldCoder The article is back? 19:54 * OldCoder is pleased 19:54 kaeza hi OldCoder 19:54 OldCoder kaeza, hey! 19:54 OldCoder Kacey, there is a new math puzzle 19:54 Kacey i saw it... idk where to begin with it 19:55 OldCoder themaskedlua, need to talk 19:55 OldCoder Kacey, heh. I see about 4 solutions myself. 19:55 OldCoder I told him... irritating because any of them are right. 19:55 themaskedlua evening OldCoder, and sure 19:55 Uberi hey OldCoder 19:55 OldCoder Uberi, hi! to you too 19:55 kaeza fun fact: you can play videos in text-mode 19:55 OldCoder themaskedlua, we shall pm soon 19:55 OldCoder kaeza, indeed 19:56 themaskedlua alrighty :) 19:56 OldCoder mplayer supports this 19:56 OldCoder ASCII mapping 19:56 OldCoder or cacaview 19:56 Calinou john_minetest, minetest wikipedia article? :phoronix rolleyes: 19:56 kaeza I don't recall the program though 19:56 kaeza aalib I think 19:58 Calinou kaeza, there is even a program to play games such as quake 2 or urban terror in console 19:58 Calinou in ASCII :P 19:58 MarkTwain i need a controller under $£10 19:58 kaeza :O 19:58 kaeza Calinou, name or link? 19:58 kaeza just for the lulz 19:59 Calinou I don't remember, saw that long time ago 19:59 Calinou but the urban terror was an april fool :P 20:00 FreeFull You could run X11 with the aalib driver 20:01 FreeFull Though I don't know how hard that'd be to set up nowadays 20:01 FreeFull You'd probably have to use an old version of X11 20:01 Calinou X10, then 20:01 kaeza Puppy Linux has it I guess 20:01 Calinou or even X9 20:01 kaeza and is easy to change drivers 20:01 Calinou X12 release date: the day half life 3 is released 20:01 kaeza lol 20:02 Mallot1 kaeza: mintest was really make with megaZeux? 20:02 Mallot1 *minetest 20:02 Calinou WTF is megazeux 20:02 Mallot1 thats was kaeza told me 20:02 Calinou anyway, hi mr. default wordpress avatar 20:02 MarkTwain any alternatives to arduino? 20:02 MarkTwain that are on lua 20:02 Mallot1 hi 20:03 MarkTwain or luajit 20:03 kaeza http://lmgtfy.com/?q=megazeux 20:03 kaeza Calinou, ^ 20:03 Calinou googling is so 2008 20:03 Uberi MarkTwain: if you want Lua, you'll need something with POSIX at least 20:03 Uberi * supporting 20:03 kaeza Calinou, megazeux is so 1994 20:04 Mallot1 dude, whered u get the google it animation? 20:04 * Calinou googles anyway 20:04 kaeza but is awesome for creating text mode games 20:04 Calinou Mallot1, LMGTFY, "let me google that for you" 20:04 Mallot1 ok thx 20:04 kaeza (it actually uses SDL now, but meh) 20:05 kaeza it used to use direct BIOS calls in the old DOS days 20:06 Mallot1 http://bit.ly/RMRkqg 20:06 Mallot1 im a SDL programmer :D 20:06 Calinou suuure 20:06 Mallot1 but i am 20:06 Calinou !title 20:06 ShadowBot Calinou: title [--no-filter] 20:06 Calinou oh, LMGTFY 20:06 Calinou now I'm googling a pony name 20:06 Calinou and fuck 20:06 Calinou this actually uses google 20:06 Mallot1 ok if u dont believe me 20:06 Calinou now google knows I'm googling pony names 20:07 kaeza Mallot1, I mostly use Allegro 20:07 Mallot1 http://bit.ly/rsUMR7 20:07 Mallot1 cool 20:07 kaeza SDL is too minimal for my tastes 20:07 Calinou why? 20:07 Mallot1 i want to learn allegro and SFML as well 20:07 Calinou too minimal? 20:07 Calinou hey, source engine uses SDL 2 20:08 Mallot1 http://bit.ly/rsUMR7 20:08 Calinou nope 20:08 kaeza Calinou, you have to depend on tons of libs using different slightly incompatible APIs 20:08 Calinou oh, kaeza, look at world of text 20:09 kaeza plus Allegro comes already with portable filesystem support, timers, etc 20:09 kaeza all you ever need 20:09 Mallot1 i know but its good practice for linking libraries adn that kind of stuff 20:10 Mallot1 is world of text a game? calinou 20:11 Calinou Mallot1, http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest 20:11 Calinou you can freely edit in white areas 20:11 Calinou (please don't grief, though) 20:13 kaeza someone deleted my text ;_; 20:13 Mallot1 thats cool, 20:14 Mallot1 was that SDL? 20:14 kaeza Menche's pony 20:14 kaeza lol 20:16 Calinou pawnies 20:21 Kacey heh look at kaeza's favourite pony 20:22 Calinou someone added it :P 20:22 Calinou haha 20:23 kaeza wat 20:23 * kaeza looks 20:26 kaeza edited :P 20:31 kaeza offtopic: running my game under valgrind shows lots of leaks in X11 :( 20:32 kaeza (and also gets me 5 SPF) 20:32 Kacey re-edited 20:34 Calinou I never run the game for more than 1-2 hours, don't care :P 20:34 Calinou also, X11 20:34 Calinou ceiling scott moreau is wanting you to use wayland :phoronix rolleyes: 20:35 Calinou gtg, night 20:35 kaeza lol wayland 20:42 kaeza khonkhortisan, around? 20:50 Uberi oh wait a minute I get the schematic format now 20:51 Uberi no meta support, it seems :( 20:51 sfan5 nope 20:51 Uberi well I'll get started on speeding up WE using schematic then 21:04 khonkhortisan kaeza, here 21:05 * VanessaE is back 21:06 Kacey wb v 21:06 VanessaE thanks 21:06 Kacey i am making a house to top yours 21:06 VanessaE what, no pull request yet? :) 21:08 khonkhortisan uberi is not here. 21:08 VanessaE he's hiding ;) 21:09 Uberi|Away actually, I'm stuffing my face with food :P 21:10 kaeza khonkhortisan, you were developing some sort of unified skin system right? 21:10 VanessaE heh 21:12 Kacey the roof is done 21:13 VanessaE Kacey: forget the house, you got tubes to finish :) 21:13 Kacey i cant use github here 21:13 VanessaE so use it over there ------> 21:13 VanessaE :D 21:13 Kacey i cant until next weekend 21:14 VanessaE ok, tell me what code changes you want to make and I'll do it myself 21:15 Kacey meh later... taking a break from coding for a bit 21:16 VanessaE john_minetest: thanks for the reminder, I'll fix it soon 21:16 kaeza anyone know what happened to RBA? still without inet access? 21:17 VanessaE the sewers were actually webdesigner97's idea 21:17 VanessaE I just took them to their logical conclusion :) 21:22 OldCoder NEWS! I am migrating this summer to a VPS with EIGHT cores and 32 GB of RAM! 21:22 OldCoder That should handle a few MT worlds! 21:22 OldCoder 21:23 OldCoder But I will not upgrade to git bleeding until LevelDB is in 21:24 OldCoder VanessaE, did you say that's coming in the next cycle? 21:24 VanessaE dunno 21:24 OldCoder Eight cores. I can MT all day and all night. 21:24 VanessaE there has been talk 21:25 OldCoder I can relearn git and try to integrate it again myself. 21:25 OldCoder We will see what we will C. Or C++. 21:25 VanessaE but no one's committed to finishing it and merging. 21:25 OldCoder Finishing? 21:25 OldCoder It seems to work fine. 21:25 PilzAdam OldCoder, 8 physical cores? 21:25 OldCoder PilzAdam, apparently 21:26 VanessaE OldCoder: the code has gotten somewhat out of date I guess. I don't know for sure. 21:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, a physical system has been set up for me 21:26 OldCoder john_minetest, indeed 21:26 OldCoder PilzAdam, I am testing it at this moment. Looks cool. htop shows lots and lots of CPUs :-) 21:26 OldCoder This should be an incentive to move along development 21:27 OldCoder Give me software that works and I shall run it 21:27 OldCoder :-) 21:28 PilzAdam OldCoder, there are two reasons why leveldb isnt upstream yet: 1) Nobody seems to care to rebase it against the current master 2) there are not much tools to work with leveldb outside of minetest, e.g. the minetestmapper will not work with it; the solution for the minetestmapper is that the mapper gets added to the engine itself 21:28 OldCoder It is the future of the project 21:28 OldCoder SQLite day is done 21:29 VanessaE damn it, when is someone going to fix this stupid 4096-node limit? 21:30 VanessaE it means the server will segfault if there are more than 4096 defined nodes/items/etc. 21:30 PilzAdam OldCoder, I only have 4 hyperthreaded cores here 21:30 OldCoder Hmm? 21:30 OldCoder All right 21:30 STHGOM cya 21:30 OldCoder PilzAdam, I will make the hardware available to all 21:30 OldCoder But I insist on LevelDB cuz it keeps the data safe 21:31 Uberi|Away sqlite is pretty safe, data-wise 21:31 Uberi|Away automatic journalling and crash protection 21:31 OldCoder Nope 21:31 OldCoder Slow 21:31 OldCoder Slow 21:31 OldCoder Did I mention slow? 21:31 OldCoder And 4GB limit 21:31 Uberi|Away wow 21:31 VanessaE bad shadowbot! 21:31 OldCoder Heh 21:31 OldCoder :-) 21:31 Uberi|Away hahaha 21:32 PilzAdam OldCoder, you may have noticed that we have auto-spam protection 21:32 OldCoder Two times is flooding?> 21:32 OldCoder But I agree3 21:32 Uberi|Away apparently 21:32 OldCoder But I agree * antiflood is good 21:32 VanessaE OldCoder: actually, 5. 21:32 OldCoder Hmm 21:32 Uberi|Away OldCoder: slow, yes, but not light on handling your data safely :) 21:32 PilzAdam Uberi|Away, sqlite works for singleplayer, but not for big servers 21:32 OldCoder I said the forbidden word 3 times. Whatever. Hmm. Crashes seem to corrupt the databases though. 21:33 Uberi|Away PilzAdam: you mean in terms of performance, right? 21:33 VanessaE OldCoder: naw, the bot watches for postflooding also - multiple lines in a short time triggers the flood kick 21:33 Uberi|Away in any case, I fully support leveldb integration 21:33 PilzAdam I mean in terms of data safety 21:33 OldCoder Hmm 21:33 OldCoder PilzAdam, But I've observed a lot of corruption 21:33 PilzAdam in singleplayer you almost never reach 4 GiB 21:33 OldCoder It's sad to lose worlds. We almost lost Calinou World this way. 21:34 OldCoder Multiuser reaches 4GB easily 21:34 Exio does anyone know a thread-safe queue library that is easy to use for C? 21:34 Exio :D 21:34 OldCoder Exio, check http://freecode.com/ good site 21:34 OldCoder Probably several of those there 21:34 PilzAdam Exio, it also has to be fast, light and extremly powerful :-p 21:35 Exio the powerful part isn't needed for now, :P 21:35 Exio OldCoder: i'll check 21:36 OldCoder The new server is fast. This will be good. 21:39 OldCoder Yes 21:39 OldCoder They felt it had connotations 21:39 OldCoder I love the site 21:39 OldCoder BEWorld is there 21:39 OldCoder I check it every day as I work on my own distro 21:39 OldCoder Cool stuff gets copied over 21:40 * OldCoder is working on the new VPS right now 21:42 OldCoder iqualfragile, wb 21:42 iqualfragile_ i guess i got a new ip… 21:43 iqualfragile_ i hate that, why do those isps need to assign you a new ip adresse every 24 hours? 21:43 iqualfragile_ bb 21:58 VanessaE Kacey: https://github.com/VanessaE/moretubes 21:58 VanessaE you'll still need to give me a patch to pipeworks to make those tubes actually stay isolated. 21:58 VanessaE but here's the basic part of it. 22:01 Kacey alight i will fork it and work on it... if internet would let me 22:01 VanessaE it's not ready yet 22:01 VanessaE hold a sec 22:01 Kacey k 22:02 VanessaE there, that's got it 22:02 VanessaE you can clone that now. 22:03 Kacey k forked 22:04 VanessaE your github id is just 'kacey'? 22:04 Kacey no Kaceyproductions 22:04 VanessaE got it. 22:04 VanessaE you have push access to that repo now. 22:04 VanessaE no need to maintain a separate fork. 22:05 VanessaE about all you should need to do at this point is fix pipeworks to keep the two colors separated and make sure the items actually flow properly of course. 22:05 VanessaE note that I cannot run this on my server - I'm already at the limit for number of nodes (I have enough room for one color-set only) 22:06 Kacey lol 22:07 Kacey i can test 22:07 Kacey no need to patch pipeworks when we can make the function inside of moretubes 22:08 VanessaE well if you wanna override some pipeworks function, that's fine too, but if you can do it in such a way as to make it generic enough for others to use later, make it a patch anyway 22:08 Exio how the fuck can you reach the limit of nodes? :D 22:08 VanessaE Exio: I have lots of mods. This one makes 56. 22:09 Exio hm 22:09 VanessaE the limit was supposed to be 65534 but someone decided to let a bug stand in the engine that limits it to 2096. 22:09 VanessaE er 4096 22:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, src/mapnoge.h:38 increase MAX_CONTENT and see what happens 22:09 PilzAdam *mapnode.h 22:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: no. I asked for this change months and months ago. Someone else can do it. 22:10 VanessaE (else I'll just get by without it) 22:10 PilzAdam I just want to know if its that easy 22:10 VanessaE it isn;t. 22:10 VanessaE supposedly there's some hardcoded constant elsewhere in the engine that also blocks it 22:10 VanessaE I don't remember the details, c55 knows. 22:11 VanessaE imho it should be expanded, at whatever cost, to some un-G*dly high value so as to guarantee that no one can ever reach the limit again. 22:12 Kacey VanessaE, the iso tubes arent the only thing that moretubes will add 22:12 VanessaE Kacey: I didn't think so, I figured you had other plans 22:12 Kacey ooh ya but iso tubes are frst on the list 22:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: well, I'll try it anyway 22:13 PilzAdam Ill test it too 22:13 VanessaE (setting it to fffd as I recall there are two node defs that are reserved) 22:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: well, it runs 22:18 PilzAdam without increasing the constant, it crashes when registering too many nodes 22:18 VanessaE yeah, segfaults for me 22:18 PilzAdam ok, registering 10000 nodes in a loop works when setting it to 0xfffd 22:19 PilzAdam testing 65000... 22:20 PilzAdam wow, works 22:21 Exio check creative 22:21 Exio < 1 inf > 22:21 Exio or what? :D 22:21 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ cat .minetest/debug.txt |grep ItemDefManager |cut -f 4- -d ":" |grep -v "alias" |sort|uniq|wc 22:21 VanessaE 4712 18848 352921 22:21 VanessaE woof! 22:22 VanessaE (surely there's not quite that many, should only be closer to 4200 in the current test) 22:22 PilzAdam it takes ~30 seconds to register all the nodes 22:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: the question then is, can the map, memory processes, and network protocol handle that many? 22:23 PilzAdam imho it should be expanded, at whatever cost 22:24 PilzAdam "at whatever cost" 22:24 VanessaE well whatever cost = does it cause a minor CPU, memory, disk, network bandwidth impact 22:24 VanessaE not does it break maps :) 22:24 VanessaE (I wasn't clear, sorry) 22:25 PilzAdam ok, minetest_game + 65000 registered nodes just wont connect to singleplayer server 22:25 PilzAdam and one CPU core is at 100% 22:26 PilzAdam testing 30000 22:27 PilzAdam :-/ 22:27 VanessaE oh well 22:27 VanessaE it was worth a try 22:28 VanessaE mention it in -dev if you want I guess 22:28 PilzAdam increasing the limit should be done anyways, people dont _have_ to use that many nodes 22:28 PilzAdam and if someone with a super computer wants to play the "uber game" in minetest then a constant in the code shouldnt block him 22:31 PilzAdam VanessaE, could you test it on your server for some time? 22:31 VanessaE Sure as long as it won't break the map 22:31 VanessaE (I don't understand how this stuff works, internally) 22:31 PilzAdam better backup first 22:32 VanessaE sure 22:34 PilzAdam oh, wait, doesnt the client need this limit to be increased too? 22:35 VanessaE dunno 22:35 VanessaE server's updated. 22:35 VanessaE good time to test I suppose 22:37 VanessaE everything in the creative inv looks correct and is in their correct places 22:37 PilzAdam how many items do you have now? 22:37 VanessaE checking.. 22:37 PilzAdam 22:37:31: ERROR[main]: ContentFeatures::deSerialize(): Too large content id: 4096 22:37 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ cat /home/minetest/.minetest/debug-server.txt |grep ItemDefManager |cut -f 4- -d ":" |grep -v "alias" |sort|uniq|wc 22:37 VanessaE 4716 18862 353188 22:38 PilzAdam so, the client needs to be updated too 22:38 VanessaE (it's odd that it's that high, the only thing I added should have increased it by exactly 128 nodes) 22:38 VanessaE yeah 22:38 VanessaE so this becomes a "latest git only!" server for now, until 0.4.8 anyway 22:39 PilzAdam if we actually increase the limit in upstream 22:39 VanessaE may as well do it, if it's this easy 22:39 VanessaE my client on my server seems to be behaving the same as usual 22:41 VanessaE how far can that limit be pushed, in theory? 22:41 VanessaE without major changes to the protocol/map I mean 22:41 PilzAdam not higher than 2^16 22:41 VanessaE didn't think so 22:41 VanessaE but that's more than enough 22:42 VanessaE 64k ought to be enough for anybody. 22:42 PilzAdam with fffd you are pretty close to that 22:42 VanessaE ;) 22:42 VanessaE server's only using 199MB, which is pretty close to normal 22:43 VanessaE so it didn't cause a notable increase in RAM usage (I seem to recall someone was worried about that) 22:45 Kacey house screenies coming... 22:45 PilzAdam inb4 "I CANT CONNECT" in VanessaE's server topic 22:45 VanessaE lol 22:46 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/qNzxw.png 22:46 Kacey haha jkjk that is my old house 22:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: good excuse to post a "server is down" message :P 22:47 PilzAdam VanessaE, or "1338 only" 22:47 VanessaE 1337* 22:47 PilzAdam *7 22:47 VanessaE ninja's 22:47 VanessaE ninja'd 22:48 Kacey imgur is being stupid 22:49 PilzAdam Kacey, you can use http://mg.viewskew.com/ 22:50 iqualfragile_ oh, hey, mediagoblin realy is a thing now, isnt it? 22:51 PilzAdam iqualfragile_, its awesome 22:52 PilzAdam the linked server is hosted by StarBlessed 22:55 Kacey it is hard to say spam 10 times fast 22:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: I've been all over my server's map and so far nothing looks out of the ordinary 23:00 Kacey http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jboot111/m/house/ my good house 23:02 iqualfragile_ oh, wow, mediagoblin supports viewing models? 23:02 iqualfragile_ thats realy cool 23:03 PilzAdam Kacey, theres a new windows build 23:03 VanessaE nice house, kacey 23:06 Kacey it isnt done completely, but the basics are done 23:13 iqualfragile_ haha, ascii art 23:14 PilzAdam iqualfragile_, the lead dev of mediagoblin really likes ASCII-art 23:15 iqualfragile_ i think that it will have some potential when it gets federated 23:15 PilzAdam it still needs a "search" feature 23:16 iqualfragile_ yeah, that might come in handý 23:17 iqualfragile_ i hope that daala gets ready within the next year or two 23:17 iqualfragile_ that would really help those people 23:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: would you mind putting forth that change in -dev so we can at least see if anyone's going to reject it? 23:19 Mallot1 ok if u dont believe me 23:19 Mallot1 lol 23:19 Mallot1 sure vanessaE 23:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, feel free to ask there 23:20 Mallot1 im there right now 23:20 VanessaE I'm not in there and no one is gonna listen to me anywya 23:20 VanessaE anyway* 23:20 iqualfragile_ & they might need to improve their loding strategies for videos 23:21 iqualfragile_ right now it just loads the whole thing as fast as possible 23:21 iqualfragile_ but it happens quite often that people skip big chunks or jus stop watching 23:30 iqualfragile_ the problem about free music is that everybody uses it 23:31 Mallot1 ??? 23:32 Mallot1 minetest doesn't have gameplay music 23:32 PilzAdam iqualfragile_, the problem is that you can get the not free music for free too 23:32 kahrl Mallot1: ambience mod 23:33 Mallot1 i meant built-in 23:35 iqualfragile_ nah, its just that i sometimes view youtube-videos or play evil litle flashgames and then i hear the same 3 songs over and over again 23:36 iqualfragile_ the ambience mod realy improves minetest 23:36 iqualfragile_ makes it more fun to play 23:37 iqualfragile_ and as i am giving out compiments right now: arch is awsome, too 23:37 iqualfragile_ realy, you should switch to it 23:38 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96184#p96184 :D 23:38 khonkhortisan while we are switching, switch from qwerty 23:39 PilzAdam yea, use qwertz 23:39 khonkhortisan switch the redstone off and the mesecons on 23:39 khonkhortisan switch to 6d facedir 23:41 iqualfragile_ i am not using querty 23:41 iqualfragile_ i am using neo2