Time Nick Message 00:04 Jordach A German grammar Nazi 00:04 Jordach fun. 00:05 Jordach and ironic too 00:06 Jordach considering we won the war 00:06 Jordach :P 00:06 Jordach on grammar 00:09 Jordach feckin wifi 00:12 Jordach laggin like a draggin 00:12 PilzAdam its interesting how the word "Nazi" is widely used in the English language 00:14 Jordach it covers everything evil essentially 00:15 Jordach it also implies grammar nazi's are evil 00:15 PilzAdam I think it just plays down the real Nazis 00:16 PilzAdam sadly there are still people out there who cant use their brain and think that its good to be a Nazi 00:16 VanessaE laughing at someone for all eternity is often far worse a punishment than killing them 00:16 khonkhortisan flat earth society 00:16 Jordach trolololol 00:16 VanessaE remember, to the Nazis, that word was of particular value - so to downplay it, and thus devalue it, is to devalue the people who associated themselves with that word 00:17 Jordach are we *still* that backdated 00:17 Jordach with the flat earth believers 00:17 Jordach ugh, its 1500 all over again 00:17 Jordach i should really have kicked the bucket 700 years ago 00:17 VanessaE Jordach: afaik that movement is a hoax. 00:17 VanessaE (flat earthers) 00:18 Jordach VanessaE, actually, the group existed, but their archives burned down 00:18 Jordach i have the article in a book 00:18 Jordach and all members fell apart 00:18 VanessaE how long ago was that? 00:18 khonkhortisan As long as this Earth is flat, the holocaust never existed! 00:18 Jordach around 1996 00:18 Jordach iirc 00:18 Jordach or was it 2006 00:19 Jordach flatearthsociety.org 00:19 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, note that you can be sued if you say in germany that the holocaust doesnt exist 00:19 PilzAdam *hasnt existed 00:19 VanessaE musta been 2006 because I hadn't heard of that "society" until some time in the 2000's 00:19 Jordach huh 00:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: good! 00:19 Jordach their forums are gone 00:19 Jordach which the link in the book must have expired 00:20 PilzAdam a link in a book? 00:20 PilzAdam its kinda ironic, isnt it? 00:20 Jordach VanessaE, the flatters had 10,000 members before the loss of the archive 00:20 Jordach now its about 3,000 00:20 VanessaE huh. 00:20 VanessaE I thought it has to be a joke. 00:20 Jordach VanessaE, there's a british show known as QI 00:20 VanessaE people really ARE that stupid 00:20 PilzAdam Jordach, I wonder, where do they set the "cut" in the world? 00:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: the cut? 00:21 Jordach PilzAdam, a 400ft wall of ice is at each end of the world 00:21 khonkhortisan I didn't know I could be sued 00:21 Jordach and the stars are as far away as san francisco to new york is 00:21 VanessaE lol 00:21 Jordach according to them 00:22 khonkhortisan the stars must teleport from end to end 00:22 Jordach technically, you could represent the world in a 2-d form 00:22 khonkhortisan Can't argue with a fool, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience 00:22 Jordach khonkhortisan, falch 00:22 Jordach back your arguments up 00:23 Jordach an idiot is easily swayed with thr right info 00:23 khonkhortisan it's a joke 00:26 PilzAdam from now on I believe that the whole world is a minetest server, with an ultra HD texture pack and really good bumpmapping and light shaders 00:26 PilzAdam who is with me? 00:26 VanessaE heh 00:26 Jordach PilzAdam, HOLD THE FUCKIN LINE 00:27 VanessaE must be running on one hell of a processor to handle the ABMs and minetest.after()'s :) 00:27 Jordach this paste is old as fuck but i wrote this: http://pastebin.com/H3HGVgbz 00:28 Jordach /give Jordach default:diamond 00:28 Jordach nope.avi 00:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, just need to find a way to trigger that duplication bug on this 1€ coin 00:28 PilzAdam IIRC throw it out of the map bounds? 00:29 VanessaE no, that'll just crash the universe 00:29 VanessaE (the world is still running a really old version ;) ) 00:31 Exio i hope nobody is going to reboot it :D 00:31 Jordach /shutdown 00:31 Jordach -!- Server: You do not have permission 00:32 * VanessaE wishes she were rich :-/ 00:32 Jordach or the universe is running Minetest 1.0 00:32 Jordach explains why it looks so god 00:32 Jordach good* 00:32 Jordach because RBA shaders 00:33 VanessaE yeah but who's responsible for getting the map upgraded to all mesh nodes instead of cubes? 00:33 khonkhortisan I can build something in minetest, and make it go away. If I build something irl, it's harder to make it go away. 00:33 Jordach khonkhortisan, they invented lego 00:33 khonkhortisan I always run out of legos 00:33 Jordach oh god: if the world is Minetest, then LEGO is a smaller Minetest 00:34 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's because G*d refuses to give anyone admin picks and run the world in creative mode. 00:34 Jordach and were playing Minetest withing Minetest 00:34 Jordach Admin* 00:34 VanessaE minetestception! 00:34 Jordach -g 00:34 Jordach VanessaE, refer god as the admin 00:34 VanessaE ok, the Admin then :) 00:34 PilzAdam and the devil as a grieder ;-) 00:34 Jordach it sounds better on paper 00:34 PilzAdam *griefer 00:34 Jordach no, we've seen the devil already 00:34 Jordach LM 00:34 PilzAdam awwwww 00:35 PilzAdam I thought I am the devil.... :'-( 00:35 Jordach PilzAdam, screwing with minetest_game does not constitute being the devil himself 00:35 Jordach LM earned that through hardworking griefs 00:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: I can name some groups out there that are far worse than any anthropomorphized evil :-) 00:35 Jordach VanessaE, bdsm? /me laughs 00:35 Jordach that fits 00:36 hmmmm i run FreeBSDM 00:36 VanessaE I was thinking more like certain religious groups. 00:36 PilzAdam Jordach, but messing with minetest_game is like griefieng everyone who plays minetest 00:36 Jordach not really 00:36 Jordach people live with it 00:36 hmmmm nobody liked my funny :( 00:36 Jordach VanessaE, westboro baptist church 00:36 VanessaE I know of one based in Topeka, Kansas USA that fits the criteria quite nicely. 00:36 VanessaE EXACTLY. 00:36 * Jordach gets points 00:36 PilzAdam hmmmm, go back coding :-p 00:37 Jordach and points mean prises 00:37 Jordach hmmmm, very nice 00:37 VanessaE hmmmm: it was funny :) 00:37 Jordach hmmmm, isnt BDSM already free 00:37 hmmmm FreeBSD is the name of the operating system i use 00:37 Jordach OMFG 00:37 Jordach \o/ 00:37 Jordach someone who actually uses BSD 00:37 hmmmm proller does too 00:37 VanessaE I used to back in the 4.1 days 00:38 VanessaE (or was it 4.3?) 00:38 Jordach VanessaE, Sam appeared in 0.4.4 00:38 Jordach if you remember him, then its > .4.4 00:38 hmmmm lol 00:38 VanessaE Jordach: I meant 4.1 BSD silly :) 00:38 Jordach hmmmm, yes, i went with your name 00:39 Jordach VanessaE, lol; 00:39 Jordach VanessaE, it can pull 290fps in games where linux can get 120 00:40 VanessaE sounds about right heh 00:40 Exio what can pull 290fps 00:40 Jordach dunno why BSD is like lightning 00:40 Jordach greased* 00:40 Exio something unrelated 00:40 Jordach with teflon coating 00:41 Exio minetest performance, on windows 00:41 Exio is shitty 00:41 Jordach telfon has no friction whatsoever 00:41 Jordach teflon* 00:41 Jordach its the non stick coating on pots and pans 00:48 PilzAdam telfon has no friction whatsoever <- ehm 00:48 Jordach PilzAdam, well, barely any at all 00:48 Jordach compared to common material 00:48 PilzAdam even _light_ has friction 00:48 Jordach also: glass is not a slow liquid 00:48 Jordach its an amourphous solid 00:53 Jordach (and, no, churches have thicker bottom panes because the glazers of that age couldnt make perfect flat panels) 00:58 PilzAdam mod idea: quark–gluon plasma with color superconductivity for mesecons! can be found in the center of randomly spawning neutron stars at y=30000 00:59 Jordach PilzAdam, cool 01:00 PilzAdam neutron stars have a radius of 15 km, wich means they will touch the surface if the other half is not in the map 01:00 Jordach OWCH 01:00 Jordach hot hot hot 01:01 Jordach who needs a furnace when you have a neutron star 01:01 PilzAdam at the surface the pressure is 0 01:01 Jordach cooks everything including you 01:02 Jordach anyone heard of the simulator: the powder toy> 01:03 * Menche has that 01:03 PilzAdam rule 34? 01:03 VanessaE PilzAdam get your mind out of the sewer 01:03 Menche can *not* figure out how most of the simulations on the site were made 01:03 Jordach Menche, same 01:03 PilzAdam VanessaE, its 3 AM here 01:03 PilzAdam I need to sleep 01:04 VanessaE no you don't 01:04 VanessaE you have work to do yet :) 01:04 PilzAdam ok, your right, I have to listen to that song once again 01:04 Jordach python 2.7.4 > pilzadam.sleep() = true 01:04 PilzAdam Jordach, I dont run python 01:04 Jordach fuck 01:04 VanessaE besides, it's the weekend, who goes to bed at normal hours on a weekend? 01:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, for me is "weekend" until october :D 01:05 VanessaE vacation? 01:05 PilzAdam school finished 01:05 Jordach aw fuck 01:05 VanessaE oh right, I forgot about your exams 01:05 Jordach mines still going until 20th of july 01:05 Jordach but i have trips for the rest of the year now 01:06 Jordach (my exams are done too) 01:07 PilzAdam Jordach, do you have your marks yet? 01:07 Jordach NOPE 01:07 Jordach PilzAdam, recieve 01:07 Jordach recieving them in aug. 01:08 Jordach my family thinks i will burn the house down when im on my own 01:08 Jordach i dont even move an inch when im on my pc 01:08 Jordach i dont even have deep vein thrombosis 01:08 Jordach which is amazing considering my gut size 01:08 Jordach and how much i eat (not often) 01:09 VanessaE you do know what DVT is I assume? 01:09 PilzAdam I go into our garden 1 hour a day 01:10 Jordach fuck that 01:10 Jordach i prefer hitting the left thumbstick in and sprinting on BF3 01:10 Jordach and killing russians too 01:14 PilzAdam I really need to sleep now 01:14 PilzAdam good night everyone 01:14 VanessaE nith 01:14 VanessaE night 01:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eo4WphP.jpg 01:14 Jordach cant even listen to digitally imported: http://i.imgur.com/L47zyBd.png 01:17 VanessaE "chucked a wobbly"? 01:17 Jordach its a british term for getting angry / pissed 01:17 Jordach off* 01:17 VanessaE a polite way of saying "taken a shit"> :) 01:17 Jordach yup 01:18 Jordach heres a puppy in the meanwhile 01:18 Jordach di.fm has awesome electronic music 01:18 Jordach from chiptunes to dubstep to rave 01:18 Jordach they have it covered. 01:21 Jordach huh 01:21 Jordach dont shift click + press a icon on windows 7's taskbar: opens new instance 01:24 Jordach i should have learned to check which window im closing by now 01:28 Jordach im definitely heading to bed now 01:28 Jordach night all 01:30 * _2cool4me4_ pokes Minetest to make everybody's taskbar light up with orange 01:31 Exio does anyone recall what was the link to some powerful arm cpu that proller posted here? 01:31 Exio or part of the link? name of the cpu? the site? 01:31 _2cool4me4_ Samsung Exynos? 01:32 Exio no 01:32 Exio http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135235611947 01:32 Exio well, it is an Exynos 01:32 Exio but not samsung :P 02:51 ch98 can someone test if my concrete mod works? 03:46 Kacey VanessaE, you aroud? 03:49 VanessaE sorta, what's up? 03:50 Kacey http://pastebin.com/yfFQAJkv 03:51 VanessaE um 03:51 VanessaE well firstly, 0.4.6-anything is out of date 03:51 VanessaE that aside, 03:51 VanessaE what exactly did you try to do at this moment? 03:51 VanessaE (place a tube, use the ui, ..?) 03:52 Kacey start a world 03:52 VanessaE how old is your copy of pipeworks? 03:52 Kacey i think it is because it is my copy with the in-dev mesecon tubes 03:52 VanessaE that might be 03:52 * VanessaE checks the code 03:53 VanessaE um 03:53 VanessaE your copy of pipeworks is not current - line 69 is blank. 03:54 VanessaE (just ahead of that are several tables that are created) 03:55 VanessaE (similarly, line 466 in tubes.lua isn't a dofile call, it's in the middle of several table defs) 04:00 Kacey brb 04:12 kaeza greetings fellow earthlings 04:12 kaeza and to those off planet too 04:13 ShadowNinja Hello kaeza! 04:13 kaeza what's up Shadow? 04:13 VanessaE kaeza!! *pounce* 04:13 kaeza lol 04:13 kaeza seems I've been missed 04:14 VanessaE where the FUCK have you been!? 04:14 kaeza after all, what would you do without my c0d1n6 5ki11z 04:14 kaeza two words: 04:14 kaeza bandwidth exceeded 04:14 kaeza ;) 04:14 VanessaE still wanna stick with that crappy ISP? :) 04:15 kaeza yeah... at least up to september or so 04:15 kaeza this seriously sucks 04:15 kaeza how have you been V? 04:16 VanessaE not too bad 04:16 ShadowNinja Hmm, yet your connection stayed up. New ZNC host? 04:20 VanessaE he probably had it screen'd to some remote shell 04:20 kaeza ShadowNinja, I use the same machine as the server 04:20 kaeza probably not a good idea, dunno 04:21 ShadowNinja Not "screened" (*ahem*, tmux). But somewhere else. 04:21 VanessaE well whatever 04:22 kaeza the hoster decided to change IPs, so I'm setting up everything again :( 04:24 ShadowNinja FreeDNS + wget in crontab. 04:25 VanessaE or afraid.org 04:25 ShadowNinja Yes, freedns.afraid.org 04:26 VanessaE oh right 04:26 VanessaE (I read that as some other free dns) 04:28 kaeza well, yes 04:28 kaeza but for the bouncer I'm using the direct ip 04:29 kaeza oh god 04:29 kaeza 20 channel tabs 04:29 kaeza all pinged me 04:30 * VanessaE pings kaeza just because 04:30 kaeza I look in the logs, the bouncer reconnected 04:30 kaeza *forever alone* 04:30 VanessaE (actually I was worried that you'd suddenly left without so much as a ragequit) 04:31 kaeza hehe 04:31 kaeza nope 04:32 kaeza I'm not going away just because of silly things 04:38 VanessaE first RBA gets back online, then kaeza 04:38 VanessaE what's next, cornernote? :) 04:38 kaeza hah 04:38 ShadowNinja But he didn't go offline... 04:39 VanessaE true, 04:39 * VanessaE offers everyone large quantities of string cheese 04:39 kaeza well, define what is online 04:40 * kaeza wants 04:40 kaeza are you online? or is your digital persona the one that is online? 04:41 * kaeza starts mumbling more about existentialism and other random studd 04:41 kaeza stuff* 04:42 kaeza blame the labelless keyboard keys 04:45 VanessaE heh 05:02 MinerofLands OldCoder are you there? 05:47 ch98 Can someone please test my concrete mod? 05:57 OldCoder Hi 05:58 OldCoder Ah he left 05:58 * OldCoder is mostly here sort of 05:59 RealBadAngel another concrete mod? 05:59 RealBadAngel we do have at least 2 concretes already 06:06 deasanta is this correct - you may only have one link in your post in the forum under Minetest Forums → Modding General 06:34 sfan5 hello 06:34 sfan5 deasanta: umm 06:35 sfan5 when did you register on the forums? 06:35 deasanta ah - newish 06:36 deasanta did a mod but could not hyperlink git and source code link 06:37 sfan5 seems like the forum only allows 1 link in posts for new members 06:37 deasanta thanks sfan5 06:37 deasanta also need a bit of help with git 06:38 deasanta i need to break my project into smaller pieces so that a master? can be dowloaded for each mod 06:39 deasanta at the moment i have it so that a zip is available for the whole think 06:39 deasanta thing 06:39 deasanta see http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6279 06:57 sfan5 ... 06:58 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot 06:58 sfan5 -._ 07:03 sfan5 what the hell, my internet is slow like a snail today 07:23 sfan5 my internet is unstable as fuck 07:32 deasanta sfan5 do you use speedtest.net to test it? 07:33 sfan5 no 07:33 sfan5 everything loaded reaally slow and I was disconnected every 5 mins 07:33 * sfan5 just restarted his router 07:33 deasanta u on wireless or cabled? 07:34 deasanta i know my linux drops it wireless quite frequently 07:34 sfan5 wireless 07:34 sfan5 but I've never had any problems with WiFi and Linux 07:35 deasanta not someone close to u on the same frequency? 07:35 deasanta frequency > channel 07:39 sfan5 ... 07:39 sfan5 could be 07:40 sfan5 the channel is set to auto in the router 07:53 kaeza okay, my mouse officially died :| 07:54 Calinou use a cat instead 07:54 deasanta bad harware day for kaeza and sfan5 07:54 sfan5 umm, no 07:54 sfan5 bad software day for my router 07:55 * john_minetest puts a kitten on kaeza's desk 07:55 kaeza now using an old mouse (not optical), and with... 2 buttons ;_; 07:55 Calinou it's always good hardware day for me :< 07:55 * Calinou puts a kitten on john_minetest's head 07:56 * john_minetest strokes the kitten 08:11 sfan5 yyayayayayay 08:11 sfan5 !! 08:11 sfan5 \o/ 08:12 sfan5 uclibc has a proper wchar implementation 08:12 sfan5 minetestserver runs perfectly with uclibc on android 08:19 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 08:19 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (272ms) 08:25 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 08:25 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (335ms) 08:26 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com 08:26 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 seems to be down 08:26 kaeza dafuq 08:27 Issa hello 08:27 Issa i played minetest with mod pack of VanessaE 08:27 kaeza bonjour 08:27 Issa it's cool 08:28 Issa kaeza, bonjour 08:28 kaeza that's the only think I know how to spell :P 08:28 Issa kaeza, u speack french 08:29 Issa i m french 08:29 kaeza I'm uruguaian 08:29 deasanta !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 - is the port open on the router? 08:29 kaeza yan* 08:29 kaeza and no, I don't speak french :P 08:32 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com 08:32 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (104ms) 08:33 kaeza there 08:37 RealBadAngel i just wrote an email to a polish composer Marek Bilinski 08:37 RealBadAngel wonder if he will agree to use his music 08:38 deasanta in midi format? 08:38 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM 08:39 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh0AsS4d5og 08:39 RealBadAngel those are not midi's 08:40 deasanta no but i can be? small and transportable - ie downloadable / streamable 08:40 deasanta sounds good - luv it 08:41 RealBadAngel sounds can be local 08:41 RealBadAngel no need to transfer them 08:41 RealBadAngel make /sounds folder place there main_menu.ogg 08:42 RealBadAngel it will be played when you launch the game 08:42 deasanta yup - looks like that song in mp3 is about 10mb 08:43 RealBadAngel i have better remix of the first song 08:43 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXMnIxt5RM 08:43 RealBadAngel and this one i would like to use in game 08:44 sfan5 deasanta: yes 08:44 RealBadAngel how do you like it folks? 08:46 kaeza MIDI sucks as music format 08:46 RealBadAngel this is not midi 08:46 deasanta sfan5 - working now - did not when i tried earlier 08:46 kaeza I know 08:46 sfan5 lawl! server crashed 08:46 * sfan5 used worldedit 08:46 deasanta no i know - but is used in games due to size (80s technology) 08:47 RealBadAngel of course, but we dont have to care about size at all 08:47 RealBadAngel i do have over 2TB of disk space here 08:47 kaeza XMs do not depend on the soundcard, and can be really small even for longish songs 08:48 RealBadAngel 100mbps bandwith 08:48 RealBadAngel so why i should care if a song is 1,5 or 10 mb? 08:48 kaeza (XM, STM, MOD, etc) 08:48 kaeza S3M* 08:49 kaeza well, storage space may not matter 08:49 kaeza but bandwidth does 08:50 RealBadAngel notice that music files doesnt have to be transferred 08:50 kaeza I know about that :P 08:50 RealBadAngel i do have version of ambience that works only local 08:50 RealBadAngel server provides only the code 08:50 RealBadAngel sounds are on the client side 08:59 Taoki Does the formspec allow checkboxes? 09:00 RealBadAngel sapier's new menu code may do this 09:01 RealBadAngel but im not sure 09:01 RealBadAngel Taoki, and how do you like the music? 09:01 Taoki ok. Need it for a node formspec if latest GIT supports 09:01 Taoki What music? 09:01 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM 09:01 RealBadAngel this one 09:02 Taoki nice 09:02 RealBadAngel its almost 30yrs old composition 09:02 RealBadAngel polish btw ;) 09:04 RealBadAngel i just wrote author for permission to use it in technic_game 09:05 deasanta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPNFuDMXEs - starting at 1:04 09:05 deasanta or the choris at 1:50 09:07 RealBadAngel this is also good 09:07 RealBadAngel check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM 09:07 RealBadAngel oops 09:07 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOITwbuFY8 09:08 RealBadAngel now 09:09 RealBadAngel that was original record, old as hell 09:09 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljHQEQfk-w 09:09 RealBadAngel this is live, this year 09:11 RealBadAngel but the other one the best is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-fx360hT5g 09:13 deasanta The House In The Fog Valley +1 09:14 deasanta doesnt have to be the whole song but a nice part that can be looped 09:20 RealBadAngel deasanta, you make also like this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTu-LVvVGng 09:29 MarkTwain RBA, hows the inventory fix? 10:16 RealBadAngel hi Jeija 10:16 Jeija Hi RealBadAngel 10:16 RealBadAngel howdy? 10:17 RealBadAngel Jeija, i should aks you for permission too 10:17 RealBadAngel i decided to create technic game 10:17 Jeija fine, but I don't do much with minetest anymore (played last time like a month ago) 10:17 RealBadAngel which inludes mesecons 10:18 Jeija If you want to use any of my mods in the game, I'm fine with it 10:18 RealBadAngel thx 10:18 RealBadAngel i will 10:18 Jeija As long as you don't totally rebrand it and claim it your own 10:18 RealBadAngel you know me, im not a tchief 10:19 Jeija Sure, that was more like a general statement 10:19 RealBadAngel you made half of the work for it to be possible 10:19 RealBadAngel i made another half 10:20 RealBadAngel and i want it to be a GAME now 10:20 RealBadAngel with all the eye candies possible 10:22 RealBadAngel Jeija, but tell me, are you going back to code mods? 10:22 RealBadAngel or the engine 10:23 Jeija Currently I prefer doing some real-life electronics and C coding, but I may get back when I have more time 10:23 RealBadAngel you have the brains, we cannot afford to lose you 10:23 Jeija I already made a mesecons dispenser, but is not yet pushed 10:24 RealBadAngel some of m code is complemeting yours already 10:24 Jeija Actually one reason why I don't code mods atm is that mesecons is quite stable now 10:25 RealBadAngel it is 10:25 RealBadAngel im doing more mess atm ;) 10:26 RealBadAngel i feel sorry i cant work on the project full time 10:26 Jeija For me it feels like the whole development has slowed down lately...? 10:27 RealBadAngel yeah 10:27 Jeija Any speculations why? 10:27 RealBadAngel life 10:27 RealBadAngel on winter we do have more spare time 10:28 RealBadAngel if it was up to me i could code 24/24 10:29 RealBadAngel but i have to work 10:32 RealBadAngel propably others have the same situation 10:33 RealBadAngel Jeija, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM you havent seen this link 10:34 RealBadAngel this is propably to become technic_game music score 10:35 Jeija Ah ok, I was just wondering what that music is... 10:35 RealBadAngel Marek Bilinski 10:36 RealBadAngel composer from anoter side of steel curtain 10:36 RealBadAngel imho comparable to Jean Michelle Jeare 10:37 RealBadAngel dont you think? 10:48 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1gf11g/linux_saved_so_much_money_for_my_school_were_the/ 10:48 Calinou minetestminetestminetestminetestminetestminetest 10:52 TheLastProject Cool :P 10:53 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:53 Calinou hi 10:56 PilzAdam Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95040#p95040 10:59 deasanta ho 10:59 deasanta hi 11:06 PilzAdam brb 11:18 TheLastProject Until Reddit is used for old-school illegal file sharing I would say no 11:22 sfan5 Calinou left :( 11:24 TheLastProject I have never seen "Visit us on Reddit" either 11:31 * VanessaE peeks in for a few mins 11:39 arsdragonfly Looooooolz 11:39 arsdragonfly My old rig couldn't boot just now 11:40 arsdragonfly My mum took a hairdryer and dried the motherboard, then it worked 12:09 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Lazy sunday typo fixing. s/unban_player_of_ip/unban_player_or_ip/g 4405310184 2013-06-16T05:07:12-07:00 http://git.io/_5A-LA 12:31 Issa my serveur mintest crash :/ 12:32 Issa 14:31:31: ERROR[main]: Server::fillMediaCache(): Empty file "E:\Jeux\Minetest\mi 12:32 Issa netest-0.4.7-6b3e553-win32-Server\bin\..\mods\coloredwood\textures\coloredwood_f 12:32 Issa ence_dark_magenta.png" 12:34 VanessaE empty file? 12:35 VanessaE I'll be damned. 12:35 * VanessaE checks some of the other files 12:36 VanessaE huh, there are several textures here that are screwed up 12:36 VanessaE give me a few and I'll push a fix. 12:41 VanessaE Issa: fixed in git. 12:46 Issa vanessa i used ur mega pack of mod 12:46 Issa it will be very long orecreate this pack 12:46 VanessaE I updated my game/modpack also 12:46 Issa link please 12:47 VanessaE you can just re-download the affected mod: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=32039 12:47 VanessaE the game is here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2 12:47 VanessaE (that's the only "megapack" I distribute) 12:48 VanessaE but you may wish to just download the mod and replace the one in your pack, as I have a change to pipeworks going up shortly also 13:00 Issa VanessaE, thanks 13:00 VanessaE no prob 13:00 Issa i nned to create my own script ou get automaticly update all the mod i use via github 13:00 Issa well we see to do that 13:00 VanessaE don't do that actually 13:00 VanessaE it may lead to problems 13:01 VanessaE always manage your mods manually, especially if they're part of a game 13:01 Issa why ?? 13:02 VanessaE well in the case of a game, mods are sometimes selected to fit together well. a newer version of something could break other mods in the game 13:02 VanessaE otherwise, you simply need to keep in mind about new versions of mods in case something come up, i.e. a new bug is introduced somewhere that you need to avoid 13:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, plants_lib relys on the format of dump()? oO 13:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: plants_lib relies on the behavior dump() had at the time the mod was written 13:03 PilzAdam *relies 13:03 PilzAdam thats not good 13:03 VanessaE how that change broke it, I don't understand, but kaeza's patch fixes it 13:04 PilzAdam use minetest.serialize() and minetest.deserialize() instead 13:04 VanessaE and the behavior it had at the time was that it expected dump() to return a normal table 13:04 VanessaE NO 13:04 VanessaE don't start that shit again. 13:04 VanessaE this is not the place for serialize() as it passes a single table, pos, to loadstring to be used in a function call. 13:06 PilzAdam use mintest.pos_to_string() then 13:06 VanessaE why? 13:06 VanessaE it always worked perfectly before. 13:06 PilzAdam you cant rely on a certain format of dump() 13:06 PilzAdam there is not API call to revert dump() 13:07 VanessaE revert? 13:07 VanessaE um 13:07 VanessaE khonkhortisan changed the format of the dump() output. kaeza's fix makes sure it still works where it was used before. 13:07 VanessaE this is not up for debate. 13:08 PilzAdam it is, there is no hint in the lua-api.txt that dump()s format is stable 13:08 PilzAdam though, minetest.pos_to_string() and minetest.string_to_pos() are documented to always work together 13:08 PilzAdam same for minetest.serialize() and minetest.deserialize() 13:09 PilzAdam dump() should only be used to print() something in a human readable way 13:09 VanessaE exactly. and those functions need to be both machine-executable and human readable. 13:10 PilzAdam "those functions"? 13:10 VanessaE yeah 13:10 VanessaE the function calls in plants_lib are also printed just before they're executed, if debug is turned on 13:10 kahrl what's wrong with pos_to_string? 13:10 VanessaE kahrl: perhaps nothing except that I wasn't using it before and shouldn't have to now. 13:12 PilzAdam VanessaE, you rely on undocumented behaviour, wich is bad code style 13:12 VanessaE plus it makes zero sense to demand I make changes to a mod that worked perfectly before just so someone can avoid inserting two characters into the lua function. 13:12 Issa VanessaE, maybe u can add some rules to make this not append 13:12 Issa well id'ont know i fact 13:12 PilzAdam the pull request should be merged anyways, but VanessaE is wrong too 13:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: dump() has been around for a while, with fairly well-defined behavior, especially on a simple three-element position table. 13:13 kahrl VanessaE, you should change it anyway, dump() output is not meant to be deserialized, and details can change at any point in the future 13:14 VanessaE kahrl: dump was used because the parameters are being passed as a string to another function, so deserialize would probably be wrong here. 13:14 VanessaE -s 13:14 PilzAdam can you link the code? 13:15 kahrl I didn't mean minetest.deseralize() specifically, but any code that parses a string and returns a table 13:15 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/plants_lib/init.lua#L174 13:15 VanessaE (stupid github of course doesn't show the whole line) 13:15 VanessaE assert(loadstring(node_or_function_or_model.."("..dump(pos)..")"))() 13:16 VanessaE at the time I coded it, it was the only way I could figure out how to basically make my own callbacks. 13:17 PilzAdam what is node_or_function_or_model? 13:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: a string passed from moretrees (usually), which may either be a function name to execute within the modetrees code, or it can be a table with an L-systems tree definition, or it can be a node name. 13:18 PilzAdam ehm 13:18 PilzAdam that is really bad code style 13:18 arsdragonfly hey guys 13:18 VanessaE it works fine for me, PilzAdam 13:18 arsdragonfly how to put my server process to background in the terminal? 13:19 VanessaE & 13:19 TheLastProject arsdragonfly: Linux? Windows? Mac? 13:20 TheLastProject Normally, I would execute it like "nohup ./minetestserver &" 13:20 TheLastProject Which backgrounds it and logs everything to "nohup.out" 13:20 TheLastProject If it's already running, good old Ctrl+Z could work too 13:20 TheLastProject (This is assuming Linux, not sure about other platforms) 13:20 Exio ctrl-z, bg, disown, profit 13:20 arsdragonfly thanks 13:21 TheLastProject "command not found: profit" 13:21 arsdragonfly I'll try 13:21 TheLastProject :( 13:21 arsdragonfly btw I'm chatting on my desktop lubuntu 13:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, also, you rely that dump() is compatible with Luas loadstring(), wich is even worse 13:21 arsdragonfly and my server is on an old android phone 13:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, you need to write your own dumpPos() function that 13:21 Exio lol TheLastProject 13:21 arsdragonfly I want to make it a dedicated server 13:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: if you think you can fix it, I welcome pull requests. 13:22 VanessaE but it has always worked fine from day-one. 13:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, is this the only file that uses that hack? 13:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: afaik, and it's used in two or three places in that code. 13:34 kahrl 15:33:51: ERROR[main]: Test (hand_server.count == 1) failed: UASSERT 13:34 kahrl 8 times in a row, I can't even run my own unit tests :/ 13:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/pull/5 13:35 PilzAdam (untested) 13:35 arsdragonfly !server ping:most 13:35 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 | Clients: 1/100, 4 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.613 13:35 arsdragonfly :-\ 13:35 VanessaE oh sure, you want me to put untested code into production? :) 13:36 PilzAdam I want you to test it first 13:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, you really should reduce your usage of dump() 13:38 VanessaE um 13:39 VanessaE what's with all the wasted brackets? 13:39 PilzAdam hm? 13:40 VanessaE I might have expected, "{x="..pos.x", y="..pos.y..", z="..pos.z.."}" 13:40 VanessaE less code, exactly the same effect. 13:40 VanessaE (except that I missed a .. in there) 13:40 PilzAdam change it if you want 13:40 PilzAdam doesnt really matter 13:42 VanessaE Issa: that other change I mentioned is in now. https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/archive/master.zip 13:42 VanessaE or just re-download the game pack. 13:48 VanessaE sure 13:49 VanessaE if they'll fit, but you probably need to just go down to -1 or below, I think the bridges are all protected. 13:51 VanessaE (I got tired of the damn things constantly being turn up by griefers) 13:53 VanessaE torn* 13:53 VanessaE aw crap, sorry I musta gone down too low 13:53 VanessaE skip over it, I'll fix it later 13:54 VanessaE yeah I assumed that's what you meant 13:55 Zeg9 Hi 14:07 Kacey VanessaE, you around? 14:09 VanessaE yesh 14:09 VanessaE yeah 14:09 PilzAdam yeah + yes = yesh 14:14 rubenwardy Hi guys! 14:14 rubenwardy (and girls) 14:14 rubenwardy (and MinetestBot) 14:17 Zeg9 Hi, rubenwardy 14:29 VanessaE Issa: another update to pipeworks just went up, you'll want to re-download it (or the whole game) 14:36 kahrl PilzAdam, can I PM you? 14:45 VanessaE bbl 14:53 PilzAdam kahrl, of course 15:02 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Tweak IDropAction restriction handling in server.cpp b5918760fb 2013-06-16T08:01:21-07:00 http://git.io/XvDruw 15:09 rubenwardy Do categories in groups={} have a maximum and minimum value? 15:13 MinerofLands OldCoder are you ther? 15:14 ShadowNinja minetestserver is killing my CPU again... 15:15 sfan5 adobe flash is using much cpu again without any apparent reason 15:17 sfan5 my vps died D: 15:17 PilzAdam again? 15:19 sfan5 some program is downloading something for no reason 15:19 sfan5 ..it was chrome 15:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: Someone is missing here... 15:20 Calinou sfan5: inb4 from the NSA 15:20 MinerofLands me ofc 15:20 sfan5 I can't even reach the control panel of my vps 15:20 Calinou inb4 DDoS 15:20 rubenwardy Do categories in groups={} have a maximum and minimum value? 15:21 Calinou nope? 15:21 Calinou see fall_damage_add_percent 15:22 PilzAdam rubenwardy, they are int 15:22 rubenwardy ok 15:24 sfan5 perfect case, phenny doesn't work on my computer for some reason and my vps is down 15:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: You can use ShadowBot now? 15:25 sfan5 good 15:25 ShadowNinja (In channel) 15:25 PilzAdam ShadowBot! 15:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: Question, test it. 15:25 sfan5 ShadowBot: op sfan5 15:26 sfan5 works 15:26 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op PilzAdam 15:26 rubenwardy just finished converting food and food_baking to a new api framework 15:26 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: The equivalent for ShadowBot is hello ShadowBot! 15:26 MinerofLands ShadowBot: op MinerofLands 15:26 ShadowBot MinerofLands: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 15:26 MinerofLands :( 15:27 MinerofLands sfan5 i have a debian vps if you want :D 15:27 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami 15:27 ShadowBot rubenwardy: I don't recognize you. 15:27 sfan5 ShadowBot: whoami 15:27 ShadowBot sfan5: sfan5 15:27 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: /msg ShadowBot help register 15:27 sfan5 you dont say 15:28 MinerofLands yes :D 15:28 MinerofLands all you use it for is yourbots right? 15:28 MinerofLands i can run them for you :D 15:28 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami 15:28 ShadowBot rubenwardy: name 15:28 ShadowNinja But lets stop playing with it before someone yells at me. ;-) 15:28 rubenwardy damn 15:28 sfan5 MinerofLands: ahh, no thanks 15:28 rubenwardy mis typed 15:28 MinerofLands i didnt want to host them for you anyway!!! 15:28 MinerofLands :'( 15:28 rubenwardy can you delete the account for "name" 15:29 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: There is a changename command or similar. 15:29 ShadowNinja See "list user" 15:29 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami 15:29 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy 15:29 rubenwardy cool 15:29 sfan5 ShadowBot: whoareyou 15:30 ShadowNinja !version 15:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1+limnoria installed on 2013-06-15T15:17:36+0000. The newest versions available online are b'2013-06-13T17:22:33' (in master), b'2013-06-13T17:22:33' (in testing). 15:31 MinerofLands lol shadowbot is a supybot 15:31 MinerofLands wasnt even coded from scratch -__ 15:31 PilzAdam ShadowBot, whoami 15:31 ShadowBot PilzAdam: PilzAdam 15:31 Kacey ShadowBot, whoami 15:31 ShadowBot Kacey: Kacey 15:31 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami 15:31 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy 15:31 ShadowNinja Limnoria, yes. 15:31 sfan5 MinerofLands: MinetestBot is not coded from scratch either 15:31 ShadowNinja Now stop abusing it. 15:31 MinerofLands but i like you :D i dont like shadowninja on the other hand 15:32 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, has she some kind of !ignore? 15:32 ShadowNinja I have re-written the Minetest IRC mod, that was pretty much from scratch. 15:32 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Yes. 15:33 MinerofLands does the bot for minetest work? 15:33 TheLastProject MinerofLands: Does anyone code anything from scratch? 15:34 MinerofLands yes 15:34 MinerofLands :D 15:34 TheLastProject I'd like to see you develop something without relying on anything written beforehand. That includes standard system libraries that allow you to open and safe files, for example 15:34 ShadowNinja MinerofLands: Yes, you can see it on my IRC network, InchraNet. 15:34 TheLastProject s/safe/save/ 15:34 ShadowBot What TheLastProject meant to say was: I'd like to see you develop something without relying on anything written beforehand. That includes standard system libraries that allow you to open and save files, for example 15:34 TheLastProject God dammit that is annoying 15:34 TheLastProject =/ 15:34 MinerofLands ShadowNinja i mean the bot that someone was devolping 15:34 TheLastProject And it took 7 seconds?... 15:35 MinerofLands the bot that plays in game 15:35 Calinou suddenly: triggerbot 15:35 ShadowNinja I will remove that. 15:35 * Calinou says "ubuntu" 150 times 15:35 sfan5 Minecraft is awesome 15:35 hmmmm http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2013061516065416 15:35 sfan5 s/craft/test 15:35 sfan5 damnit 15:35 TheLastProject Calinou: Not completely from scratch, uses a fair bit of libraries including Twisted 15:35 TheLastProject It's closer to from scratch than supybot, but yeah 15:36 TheLastProject Nobody writes stuff from scratch, that's just insane 15:36 * sfan5 did 15:36 MinerofLands sfan5 does 15:36 TheLastProject Really? 15:36 sfan5 I wrote an asm forkbomb from scratch directly using the linux syscalls 15:36 TheLastProject Not a single "import"-like statement in the code? 15:36 TheLastProject >using the linux syscalls 15:37 TheLastProject So, it depends on code written by someone else :P 15:37 sfan5 that is absolutly needed, because I can't directly modify the process table etc. 15:37 MinerofLands shadowninja this is what i was talking about 15:37 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964 15:38 kahrl hmmmm, wtf is that 15:38 TheLastProject Should write your own process table system and obviously the underlying kernel :P 15:38 kahrl I thought everyone involved in SCO was already dead... although they might be zombies now 15:38 hmmmm somebody probably bought SCO for $2 15:38 kahrl isn't there some kind of statute of limitations? 15:39 MinerofLands sfan5 do you know anything about this? 15:39 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964 15:39 hmmmm they can claim that their copyright is being infringed at the present time 15:39 sfan5 MinerofLands: define know 15:39 MinerofLands i heard you had one runny 15:39 MinerofLands running 15:39 MinerofLands how do i get one to run :D 15:39 MinerofLands im a noob :( 15:43 sfan5 TheLastProject: well, I wrote a kernel myself... 15:44 TheLastProject Huh, cool 15:44 MinerofLands yeah TheLastProject can say anything now can you?! 15:44 MinerofLands cant*** 15:45 TheLastProject MinerofLands: How not? 15:45 MinerofLands nevermind :D 15:45 TheLastProject Unless that other program ran on his kernel and blahblah it's not completely from scratch 15:46 TheLastProject The thing is, "from scratch" is generally a waste of time 15:46 TheLastProject Why not use things provided to you? 15:46 TheLastProject Why not just grab supybot and change it, if that works best? 15:46 MinerofLands true 15:46 TheLastProject You can get the same result in less time. Seems only smart 15:48 sfan5 !re TheLastProject´([A-Z].*) 15:48 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: 'TheLastProject´([A-Z].*)' is not a valid regular expression. 15:48 sfan5 damn you ShadowBot for not using the same syntax as MinetestBot 15:49 MinerofLands what does that command do? *_* 15:49 TheLastProject What are you trying to do?... 15:50 ShadowNinja re is regex in ShadowBot, in MinetestBot it is reverse. 15:51 sfan5 ShadowNinja: no 15:51 sfan5 !re,!regex -> regex !rev,!reverse -> reverse 15:51 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: Spurious ">". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 15:51 rubenwardy Minetest Extensions was from scratch. It sucks 15:55 Jordach hey MinerofLands 15:55 MinerofLands hi 15:55 * Jordach wonders where MinetestBot is 15:55 MinerofLands rubenwardy do you have your minetestextensions database? 15:55 rubenwardy no 15:56 rubenwardy deleted 15:56 MinerofLands buuuuuu 15:56 Jordach hey RealBadAngel 15:57 RealBadAngel hi 15:57 MinerofLands anybody need a seedbox? 16:02 MarkTwain Can someone explain this? http://pastie.org/8049084 16:02 MarkTwain does it reply what is defined? 16:07 Jordach ow bitch 16:10 khonkhortisan event.msg might be a table or something else unprintable 16:11 iqualfragile MinerofLands: what is a seedbox 16:12 MarkTwain khonk, can you join my server and see if you can make it work? 16:12 MinerofLands a seedbox is a server where you download torrents 16:12 MinerofLands and then the server will seed for you 16:12 iqualfragile ah, ok 16:12 MinerofLands generaly the servers have 1gb lines 16:12 MinerofLands so you get like 1:1 ratio in minutes 16:12 MinerofLands good for private trackers 16:13 Calinou seems legit 16:13 MinerofLands is legits 16:14 Calinou yes, but almost always used for pirating 16:14 Calinou don't hide me stuff like that 16:14 MinerofLands true lol.....but not all torrents are illegal -_- 16:15 Calinou most of them are 16:15 MinerofLands yeah thats true 16:16 MinerofLands but some people have sloppy internet and want to share something....they ask someone with a seed box to seed for them 16:16 MinerofLands thats why i asked 16:18 OldCoder Hi 16:18 MinerofLands oldcoder finaly yay! 16:18 MinerofLands can i om you? 16:18 MinerofLands pm** 16:18 Jordach om nom nom 16:19 MinerofLands lol 16:19 OldCoder Sure 16:19 MinerofLands your quick eh jordach? 16:19 MinerofLands thats what she said 16:19 MinerofLands hahahaah 16:19 Jordach MinerofLands, thats my job nowadays 16:19 Jordach no-one comes in here for help anymore 16:19 Jordach so my entertainment is toying with the regulars 16:22 MinerofLands i ask for help but sfan5 helps me and ignores me 16:22 MinerofLands :( 16:28 Frogphone Can a person change the character models? 16:29 MinerofLands yes YOU can 16:30 MinerofLands my model is CJ from GTA:SA :D 16:30 Jordach nobody fuck with CJ! 16:30 Jordach MinerofLands, ever tried killing someone using a BMX on the beach> 16:30 Calinou john_minetest: nope. 16:30 MinerofLands lol no 16:30 Jordach not yet 16:31 MinerofLands what happens? 16:31 Jordach actually, we could even spare the current UV map 16:31 Jordach basically new model: same skin formaqt 16:31 Jordach format* 16:31 Exio poor MinetestBot 16:31 Exio it crashed when you said brony 16:31 Exio don't do it again john_minetest :( 16:31 Jordach but MinetestBot is female 16:32 MinerofLands whats a brony? 16:33 Calinou question of the year 16:33 Calinou dun-dun-dun 16:33 khonkhortisan bro-pony 16:33 Calinou Exio: it was influenced by me! 16:33 Jordach Calinou, thats my line! 16:33 khonkhortisan my little pony male viewers 16:33 MinerofLands ohh lol 16:33 Jordach the dun dun durr 16:33 Calinou khonkhortisan: oh, didn't know about the portmanteau 16:33 Calinou thought it came from nowhere 16:33 sfan5 MinerofLands: i was afk 16:33 Calinou guess we'll name MLMC viewers "mese brostals" 16:34 rubenwardy Bye all 16:34 MinerofLands later 16:34 MinerofLands ok sfan5 i forgive you :D.....so do you know how to set up that bot...the one i linked you too? 16:35 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot 16:35 Calinou john_minetest: I only counted 3-ish bronies on the forums 16:35 sfan5 MinerofLands: link again, please 16:35 Calinou that's not "so many" :p 16:37 PilzAdam sfan5, use /msg 16:37 sfan5 !re TheLastProject´([A-Z].*) 16:37 sfan5 MinetestBot! 16:37 MinetestBot sfan5! 16:37 sfan5 hm 16:37 Jordach !regex TheLastProject´([A-Z].*) 16:37 MinerofLands sfan5 this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964 16:37 Calinou huh, non-clickable link 16:38 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964 16:38 Jordach guess the person skin! http://i.imgur.com/DFXnkTK.png 16:39 MinerofLands vanessae 16:39 Jordach NOPE.AVI 16:40 sfan5 MinerofLands: you need to dl https://github.com/rarkenin/minetest-bot-php and then execute some php file 16:40 MinerofLands ok i will look into it thanks 16:41 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95084#p95084 16:41 Calinou why do I want to stab everyone in this topif 16:41 Calinou s/f/c 16:41 Calinou Jordach: 55nolerec 16:41 sfan5 !title 16:41 Jordach Calinou wins. 16:41 sfan5 wat 16:41 Jordach Flawless victory. 16:41 sfan5 MinetestBot! 16:41 MinetestBot sfan5! 16:42 RealBadAngel hehe 16:42 sfan5 !title 16:42 sfan5 !reverse sfan5 16:42 sfan5 wtf 16:42 Jordach !rev racecar 16:42 Jordach sfan5, reload * 16:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils 16:43 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-06-16 16:35:09) 16:43 sfan5 !regex 16:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload * 16:43 RealBadAngel btw, im lookin for contributors for technic_game. who wanna jump into the project? 16:43 sfan5 ?? 16:43 Jordach RealBadAngel, go to jordach/minetest_game/ and take my implementation of moonflower 16:43 RealBadAngel have you altered the original? 16:44 Jordach RealBadAngel, it has the missing glowing dye + glowing mese 16:44 MinerofLands sfan5 how did you get the bot running? 16:44 RealBadAngel Jordach, great, i will move it right away 16:44 kaeza greetings 16:44 RealBadAngel it was the whole idea 16:44 sfan5 MinerofLands: i didn't have any bot running 16:44 Jordach and moonflower is a respective mode 16:45 Jordach mod* 16:45 MinetestBot sfan5: done 16:45 RealBadAngel i already made a new repository for the game 16:45 sfan5 !regex 16:45 sfan5 !help 16:46 PilzAdam !unignore sfan5 16:46 RealBadAngel and started with adding backgrounds for chest and furnaces, UI style 16:46 sfan5 PilzAdam: the !ignore command won't work with admins 16:46 sfan5 !help 16:47 sfan5 !unignore sfan5 16:47 sfan5 something is wrong 16:48 RealBadAngel Jordach, direct link? i cant find it 16:49 Jordach https://github.com/jordach/minetest_game/tree/moonflower 16:49 Jordach hand typed and it works 16:49 Jordach \o/ 16:50 RealBadAngel lol 16:50 RealBadAngel indeed 16:51 sfan5 !help 16:51 MinerofLands lol sfan5....i can host it for you *_* 16:52 sfan5 MinerofLands: thats not the problem 16:52 sfan5 it simply doesn't work 16:53 sfan5 MinetestBot! 16:53 MinetestBot sfan5! 16:53 sfan5 !help 16:54 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload help 16:54 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-06-16 16:53:54) 16:54 sfan5 !help 16:54 RealBadAngel Jordach, ive added the flower togerher with bunch of other things 16:55 RealBadAngel and the game has its own icon, as vanessa suggested its a transformer picture 16:59 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/H9mNJ7w.jpg 17:00 MinerofLands why doesnt mine look like that? :( 17:00 Calinou +1 for greybird 17:00 Calinou and well, xubuntu 17:05 kaeza host1free closed all the free VPSs because of "security reasons" 17:06 kaeza s/closed/shut down/ 17:06 Calinou (insert shrugging rainbow dash here) 17:06 Exio ^ same here 17:06 kaeza ^ 17:06 Exio lol 17:06 Exio hi kaeza 17:07 kaeza hai Exio 17:12 Exio lamefun: how is the js scripting support going 17:13 PilzAdam MinetestBot has problems today 17:16 Jordach kaeza, s/shut down/NSA 17:19 RealBadAngel john_minetest, hehe funny idea indeed 17:19 RealBadAngel but yes. it will transform the game 17:21 ShadowNinja john_minetest: ,,(last --from Zeg9 --in #minetest --on freenode) 17:21 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: [15:17:54] Hi, rubenwardy 17:23 lamefun Exio, it's not 17:23 lamefun I'm making a machinegun turret mod now 17:23 Exio aww :( 17:26 Calinou lamefun was riddeld full of riddled by an mlrs turret 17:27 Jordach bullets* 17:27 Jordach > apparently in IRC doing this makes it green 17:28 Jordach TIL IRC is Reddit 17:28 kaeza Jordach, nope 17:28 Jordach kaeza, hexchat made that one green 17:28 kaeza not for me 17:29 Calinou Jordach: xonotic reference 17:29 Calinou until 0.7, the MLRS turret kill message was glitched 17:29 Jordach aye 17:29 Calinou (the "riddeld" typo is also intentional) 17:30 kaeza Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-16%2014%3A28%3A56.png 17:30 Calinou haha, green 17:30 Calinou too bad you can't change highlight colors, would be nice 17:30 ShadowNinja This channel blocks mIRC color codes, so no. 17:30 Exio you can 17:30 Exio all that shit is client-side 17:30 ShadowNinja ^ 17:30 Calinou yeah 17:30 Exio the irc by itself is just crap and raw text 17:31 kaeza bold test 17:31 Exio +c, blocked 17:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Q8G4cXl.png 17:31 * Calinou installed libglib2.0-dev to compile NetRadiant, NetRadiant complains about libglib2.0-dev not found 17:31 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-16%2014%3A31%3A06.png 17:31 Calinou #nsfw 17:31 Calinou SEEMS LEGIT 17:32 PilzAdam topic of the day: Show your IRC client 17:32 Calinou it's official show your IRC client day! so do that! 17:33 ShadowNinja kaeza: You can see it but the server filters it for the rest of us, try in a channel with -c. 17:34 kaeza IK 17:35 Jordach suggestion for a skin for minetest 17:35 kaeza Jordach, Dean Stark 17:36 kaeza (or maybe Rudy Roughnight) 17:36 Jordach the video game character? 17:37 Jordach actually yes 17:37 Jordach yes it is 17:37 Jordach used to be your old avatar 17:39 MarkTwain the sun is weird 17:39 MarkTwain i stare at it and it jumps back amnd forth 17:40 Calinou Jordach: TF2 classes? :p 17:41 Jordach fuck that 17:41 Jordach maybe 17:41 Jordach in reds and blues 17:41 lamefun D.A.M.N. formspec 17:42 lamefun why not just serialized Lua tables? 17:44 Calinou because RealBadAngel 17:45 PilzAdam ^ 17:45 Jordach usually the soloution 17:45 PilzAdam it works for his mod so he doesnt care anymore 17:46 sfan5 color? 17:47 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, the error hit not my mod but moretrees 17:48 RealBadAngel please stop saying so 17:48 PilzAdam hm? 17:48 PilzAdam what error? 17:48 RealBadAngel serialization of tables (dump) 17:48 RealBadAngel that 17:48 PilzAdam I was talking about formspecs 17:49 RealBadAngel so now i dont get it 17:49 RealBadAngel what you were talkin about ? :) 17:49 hmmmm PilzAdam, I was throwing around the idea yesterday of having clay generated as an ore in sand 17:50 hmmmm have any opinions on that? 17:50 * PilzAdam had that idea too 17:51 Exio a sand ore? :D 17:52 Calinou +1 for clay generated as an ore in sand 17:52 Jordach much better 17:53 Jordach but Minetoon did it first 17:53 Jordach see clay block 17:53 RealBadAngel see gloopores 17:53 RealBadAngel we already have ores that generate in desert stone 17:56 MarkTwain how can i keep a part of the map always rendered? 17:56 Dogzilla131 Hi\ 17:56 Dogzilla131 *hi 17:56 MarkTwain Hi 17:57 kaeza hai Dogzilla131 17:58 Jordach kaeza, almost done 17:58 Dogzilla131 Did something change in modding? 17:58 Dogzilla131 hi kaeza :) 17:59 ShadowNinja MarkTwain: You can't(other thn standing in it). However you can keep it loaded with the force_load pull. 17:59 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, hes talking about rendering not loading 18:00 ShadowNinja Well then he can't, as I said. 18:00 PilzAdam there is no sane reason to want that, though 18:00 MarkTwain like some command blocks 18:00 Jordach kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/nyMx3GM.png 18:00 MarkTwain that make time go 18:00 MarkTwain a bit annoying but somethomes useful 18:01 kaeza Jordach, :O 18:01 * kaeza wants 18:01 Jordach i took the attention of detail 18:01 kaeza awesome! 18:01 Jordach notice the shirt has stripes 18:02 Jordach *microwave ping* http://i.imgur.com/HmV7C7l.png 18:02 Jordach cc-by-nc-sa 18:02 Jordach 3.0* 18:03 kaeza I have me a new skin :3 18:03 kaeza thanks! ^_^ 18:03 Jordach see, im awesome at pixel art 18:03 Jordach my iron man mk 7 had too much detail 18:03 Jordach (i might make a pull request so flying players look like superman) 18:03 hmmmm hmm 18:04 hmmmm pilzadam, you're the one who put in field grass, right? 18:04 kaeza and I suck :( https://raw.github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg/master/data/gfx/strain.png 18:04 PilzAdam hmmmm, yes 18:04 hmmmm did you really need to cube the perlin noise there? 18:04 hmmmm or was that arbitrary 18:04 Jordach kaeza, im only good at the minetest player model 18:04 Jordach style art 18:05 PilzAdam hmmmm, it was already there IIRC 18:05 Jordach kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/2EZ3lmu.png 18:05 PilzAdam the generation is just copy and paste 18:05 Jordach (if you havent seen) 18:05 hmmmm yeah, see, i'm gonna have to change that to noise * scale + offset 18:07 * Jordach engineers an engineer skin 18:08 kaeza Jordach, that is awesome 18:08 Jordach kaeza, give me a reference image(s) + time = awesomes 18:09 kaeza draw me like one of your french girls 18:09 kaeza :P 18:09 kaeza J/K 18:12 Jordach hahaha 18:12 * Jordach gives face of dissaproval 18:12 Jordach onto some boobs 18:12 Jordach done 18:16 PilzAdam john_minetest, MinetestBot is here, ShadowBot seeps 18:16 PilzAdam +l 18:17 Jordach !last zeg9 18:17 PilzAdam and MinetestBot is broken 18:17 Jordach !seen zeg9 18:17 Jordach * 18:17 Jordach aw 18:17 Jordach aww :( 18:19 thexyz 0.4.7 was downloaded 13231 times 18:22 Jordach quick and dirty red engineer: http://i.imgur.com/OLg7nVe.png 18:25 ShadowNinja Jordach: ,,(last --from Zeg9) 18:25 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: [15:17:54] Hi, rubenwardy 18:26 ShadowNinja Oh, MinetestBot is here. Why didn't it respond? ,,(op MinetestBot) 18:28 Jordach MinetestBot 18:28 Jordach are you okay? 18:46 * Calinou did a comment on reddit that got 10 points 18:46 Calinou ...source: GNU humor 18:48 Calinou WTF @ Poke 18:48 Calinou he colored his post again 18:48 Calinou teenager spotted 18:49 Jordach Calinou, this isnt #reddit 18:49 Calinou no u 19:53 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/05mHCqy.png 20:06 lamefun hi 20:06 lamefun maybe I can simulate rotation of model parts by bones&animation? 20:07 Jordach yesd 20:07 Jordach yes* 20:07 lamefun eg. make an animation of 360 deg rotation and set progress approprieatly? 20:07 lamefun hm 20:08 kaeza lamefun, you can, but there's a catch 20:08 kaeza you can't use animations and manual bone rotations at the same time 20:08 Calinou Jordach: what's that 20:09 Jordach I'm going to kill you, Chell 20:09 kaeza Jordach, lol c55 skin? :D 20:10 Calinou oh, chell 20:10 * Calinou plays xonotic on camping rifle freezetag server 20:10 Calinou 12 ponies^Wplayers 20:11 kaeza lamefun, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU 20:11 kaeza ^ done using manually placing and rotating bones 20:12 kaeza I should add, it's laggy as hell 20:23 Jordach my brother wont accept that a HP Pavillion wont boot 20:23 Jordach the bios is FUCKED. 20:23 Jordach it cant find any boot device, even with a ubuntu disc 20:23 Jordach flashing a bios? you need to BOOT. 20:24 FreeFull Well, you could flash the bios by disassembling the machine and flashing the ship directly 20:24 FreeFull But you need the tools and to know what you're doing 20:25 Exio ^ 20:25 Exio oh, wait 20:25 Exio i see, he left 20:27 Calinou FreeFull: we're not in the 90s anymore 20:27 lamefun ok 20:27 Exio Calinou: what? 20:27 FreeFull Calinou: Oh, right, now when something doesn't work we just throw it away and get a new one 20:28 lamefun ok, my armature works, how to make named animations? 20:28 Exio "this mac book pro doesn't work anymore, lemme throw it to the ground until it breaks, then buy a new one" 20:28 sfan5 good night 20:28 Exio night 20:29 kaeza nite sfan 20:30 Calinou FreeFull: no, noone flashes mobos physically today 20:30 kaeza lamefun, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-animplus-0.1.0.zip 20:31 Calinou but anyway, that's OEM mobos 20:31 kaeza LGPL, same license as MT 20:39 FreeFull Calinou: I don't recall a time when flashing was mostly done physically 20:39 Calinou the 90s 20:54 lamefun Joint with specified name not found in skinned mesh.: Pole 20:54 lamefun should I use set_bone_position? 20:58 lamefun I do have a bone named Pole! 21:00 kaeza hmm 21:00 kaeza check in the .x file 21:00 kaeza maybe the modeller adds some prefix to bone names 21:02 lamefun can I use animations instead? 21:03 lamefun set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=0) 21:03 lamefun what do x and y mean? 21:03 PilzAdam start and stop frame 21:03 PilzAdam or first and last, whatever you want to call it 21:04 lamefun I can't comprehend anything 21:04 lamefun so for yaw, I should do something like self.object:set_bone_position("Pole", {x=0, y=0, z=0}, {x=math.sin(yaw), y=0, z=math.cos(yaw)}) 21:05 lamefun but Blender uses z for up and x,y for ground, should I use Blender coordinates? 21:05 Calinou try? :P 21:06 VanessaE hi all 21:07 lamefun I get 21:07 lamefun Joint with specified name not found in skinned mesh.: Pole 21:07 lamefun and my model gets turned inside out 21:09 kaeza hey VanessaE 21:09 lamefun PilzAdam, but i have several animations, namely "Pitch" and "Yaw" 21:10 kaeza lamefun, bone pos is relative to model origin 21:10 lamefun how do I set both of them? 21:10 kaeza not to orig pos of bone 21:10 lamefun so pos.x + math.sin(yaw)? 21:11 kaeza ehh no 21:11 kaeza why are you setting bone yaw directly in the first place? 21:11 lamefun no idea 21:12 lamefun I have three bones 21:12 lamefun one at base of turret, won't ever move 21:12 lamefun one at pole that rotates horizontally 21:12 lamefun one at head that rotates vertically 21:13 lamefun head is parented to pole 21:13 kaeza the model is rotated to face direction 21:13 kaeza you only need to adjust yaw if it's meant to move yaw 21:13 lamefun I basically have no idea what I'm doing, that's why 21:13 kaeza are you sure you have assigned the vertices to the right bones? 21:14 kaeza (or whatever that is called) 21:16 lamefun kaeza, http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/16/Screenshot_from_2013-06-17_011504.png 21:17 khonkhortisan Inverse of tonumber("0100",2)? Write your own function. 21:18 kaeza lamefun, what is that bone sticking out of the middle for? 21:18 lamefun pole 21:18 lamefun everything works in Blender 21:18 kaeza no idea then 21:19 kaeza khonkhortisan, you mean dec2bin? 21:19 lamefun it's not a problem with bones 21:19 lamefun rather 21:20 khonkhortisan Do we have that? 21:20 lamefun exporting works OK, I have turret head in frame 0 position for pitch (head straight down), rather than in rest position (head forward) 21:20 lamefun but 21:20 lamefun I have two animations 21:20 lamefun "Pitch", "Yaw" 21:21 lamefun and set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=0) --- incomprehensible 21:22 lamefun what's MT equivalent for the hypothetical function for PEOPLE play_animation(name, start, end, current, frames_per_second)? 21:22 kaeza khonkhortisan, http://pastebin.com/mtmj4FhT 21:23 lamefun so I can just frame = (radians / tau) * 100, play_animation("Yaw", frame, frame, frame, 0)? 21:26 ch98 Does anyone know why minetest only builds as intel even when I change the setting to ppc in xcode? 21:27 lamefun kaeza, BTW, Pole bone is at model origin 21:30 lamefun kaeza, does Minetest even support animation blending? 21:30 kaeza khonkhortisan, is that enuff? 21:30 kaeza lamefun, try using another model format like b3d 21:31 kaeza dunno 21:31 kaeza I don't play too much with models 21:31 khonkhortisan that's good 21:31 khonkhortisan should it go in commonlib? 21:31 kaeza if you wish 21:32 mati1 jestem na xchat 21:32 kaeza I could prolly modify it to support dec2any 21:32 mati1 ups sorry ;) 21:32 khonkhortisan I'm on xchat alse. 21:32 khonkhortisan *also. 21:33 khonkhortisan best would be (string, base1, base2) 21:33 khonkhortisan any2any 21:34 khonkhortisan but this is all I need 21:35 lamefun so 21:35 lamefun animation_blend means 21:35 lamefun just position from start to end? 21:37 kaeza khonkhortisan, http://pastebin.com/mtmj4FhT 21:39 kaeza hmm... any2any would be a tad harder 21:39 khonkhortisan and inefficient if you go through dec first 21:41 kaeza this will be fun 21:41 khonkhortisan I only needed dec2bin :) 21:41 ch98 Why is it that compiling minetest in ppc is so hard? 21:42 kaeza khonkhortisan, I'm bored right now, so I'll make it anyway :P 21:43 lamefun Why is animation APi incomprehensible , is it inherited from irrlicht better clone form DirecTX, proprietary, magical, industry standard! 21:44 PilzAdam lamefun, its completly open source 21:44 PilzAdam go read the sourcecode if you have questions 21:45 kaeza do that with DirectX 21:45 kaeza :D 21:46 PilzAdam kaeza, our animation code has nothing to do with directx 21:46 kaeza PilzAdam, it was a joke 21:46 kaeza you can't see DirectX sources 21:47 kaeza (not legally at least) 21:47 PilzAdam its a bad joke, lamefun is a militant open source fanatic, and I dont want to risk him starting a shitstorm 21:47 lamefun PilzAdam, is it possible to blend 2 animations into one (eg. 120 degree yaw + 60 degree pitch)? 21:48 PilzAdam no, that code is broken AFAIK 21:48 Exio rewriting it in javascript would fix the problem 21:52 khonkhortisan rewriting it in javascript would fix the problem 21:52 khonkhortisan s/in javascript// 21:52 khonkhortisan hmm 21:52 khonkhortisan s/m/mm/ 21:52 khonkhortisan bot, where are you? 21:53 Exio it is swimming 22:02 khonkhortisan Looking through the internet, one place does go through decimal to convert between bases. 22:04 lamefun kaeza, the bone's name was Armature_Pole, Blender does rename things after all 22:04 khonkhortisan kaeza, function base2base(string, base1, base2) return dec2any(tonumber(string,base1),base2) end 22:04 lamefun but now my model gets upside down 22:05 lamefun after set_bone_position 22:05 lamefun but Armature_Pole only controls part of the mesh 22:05 lamefun ok 22:06 lamefun it not only gets upside down, but inside out too 22:06 kaeza khonkhortisan, that would be an easy implementation 22:06 khonkhortisan yep 22:06 kaeza but does Lua support arbitrary bases with arbitrary symbols? 22:07 kaeza (you can ignore the arbitrary symbols part) 22:07 khonkhortisan dunno - I've seen bases go up to Z 22:08 khonkhortisan http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3554315/lua-base-converter 22:10 kaeza hmm 22:10 kaeza interesting 22:11 kaeza that may be a faster implementation since it does not call functions 22:14 kaeza (and uses table.concat) 22:28 khonkhortisan state -= 1 22:29 khonkhortisan = expected near -, they should make a language that has the features of every language! 22:30 khonkhortisan state =state- 1 22:31 kaeza heh 22:32 kaeza that's one feature I would like to see in Lua 22:32 ch98 is there any way to force xcode to compile minetest in to ppc? 22:32 FreeFull It gets a bit wacky when you do something like ||= 22:33 khonkhortisan I looked it up, and the first thing I find is that I have the common misconception of what it does 22:34 kahrl I just made the F5 display miles better: http://paste.dy.fi/4cJ 22:34 kahrl Btw, locus est omnis divisus in partes tres. 22:34 kaeza FreeFull, (x ? x : y ? y : z ? z | w ? w + 123 : foo : blah) 22:35 FreeFull Ugh, ?: abuse 22:36 khonkhortisan easy to read, hard to understand 22:36 PilzAdam kahrl, problem: there is no 0 in Latin 22:37 kahrl I cheesed out of that problem 22:37 khonkhortisan google that it was Galician 22:38 PilzAdam kahrl, if you have nothing to do: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/332 22:39 * khonkhortisan just tried #string 22:44 ch98 does anyone know what happened to toabi? Did he just go away after he made minetest fo mac? 22:48 kahrl PilzAdam, I can say why that mostly happens when using tools 22:48 kahrl it only happens when the count of both items is the same 22:48 kahrl tools have stack_max = 1 --> more likely to have the same count 22:48 PilzAdam yea 22:51 PilzAdam why dont we do it the MC way and have the selected item in a pseudo slot 22:58 kahrl PilzAdam: that's not compatible with the inventory_move/put/take callback paradigm 23:07 ch98 resolt of my mac ppc experiment: It is almost imopssible to compile minetest in mac ppc unless you can programm another minetest. 23:07 Exio why? 23:08 ch98 Even with very good help, cmake and xcode refuse to make an executable for ppc and build it for intel 23:11 ch98 if anyone has any suggestion on how to fix it, please tell me. 23:14 diemartin well lmgtfy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/822404/how-to-set-up-cmake-to-build-an-app-for-the-iphone 23:15 diemartin apparently, you have to set CMAKE_OSX_ARCHITECTURES 23:39 ch98 diemartin, that setting automatically change to i368 when i configure 23:40 ch98 it never stayd on ppc 23:40 diemartin well, i368 is an odd architecture indeed 23:41 diemartin :P 23:41 ch98 I am doing it on ppc 23:44 ch98 can someone test if vnc works long distance? 23:45 ShadowNinja ch98: It does, but lags. 23:45 ch98 how mouch? 23:49 ShadowNinja Well... Depends on your connection and defenitions of lag, among other things. 23:55 ch98 well I am connecting to computer with this cliant over vnc but there is not mouch lag. 23:56 ch98 fast enough to configure and open minetest, run some debug and read debug file