Time Nick Message 00:09 PilzAdam bye 01:50 ShadowNinja * Google now recomends MineCraft for xbox for ShadowNinja. 03:26 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 03:27 ShadowNinja Hello! 03:28 thefamilygrog66 Check this out: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6195 03:31 ShadowNinja Neat! 03:32 thefamilygrog66 Thanks - sfan5 did all the work - I just cobbled together some code. It works though! 03:33 Kacey One person can only take so much stress and anger build up until they reach their breaking point and snap. Today I reached my breaking point. 03:34 thefamilygrog66 Sounds like a rough day. 03:43 Kacey the whole story is here: http://youngderp.wordpress.com/ (or most of what has been happening for a while) 03:45 NakedFury well the new version might cheer you up 04:50 ch98 is there anyone with unused computer with minetest i can borrow? 04:52 ch98 with minetest means it can install minetest 04:53 VanessaE heh 04:53 thefamilygrog66 it needs the lotion 04:55 VanessaE careful, that stuff might come up as "military grade plastique explosives" at an airport terminal :) 04:55 VanessaE grog, check out my server, it's really starting to blossom :-) 04:55 thefamilygrog66 haha 04:55 thefamilygrog66 cool, I'll stop by soon 04:55 thefamilygrog66 did you see my new ridiculous mod, V? 04:55 VanessaE no? 04:56 VanessaE instant cabin? 04:56 thefamilygrog66 yes! 04:56 VanessaE just saw it in the new posts 04:57 VanessaE hah, cute! 04:58 thefamilygrog66 if I copied some code from something that's AGPL, do I need to license my mod the same, or can I still use WTFPL? 04:58 thefamilygrog66 thanks 04:59 VanessaE I'm not sure at all actually 05:01 Kacey heh the reference V i get it... 05:07 VanessaE :) 05:18 thefamilygrog66 Hey VanessaE, maybe I should try combining your flowers mod with my instant cabins, but add a few other buildings, and have random buildings spawn throughout the world... :) 05:18 VanessaE don't 'combine' mine - the default game has flowers now :) 05:18 thefamilygrog66 which doesn't work 05:18 VanessaE however, plants_lib should allow for that. 05:18 VanessaE are you using 0.4.7? 05:19 thefamilygrog66 not on my server, no 05:19 thefamilygrog66 my client on my linux box is running the daily build, but the server is running the last stable 0.4.6 05:20 thefamilygrog66 so I removed the built-in flowers and added yours instead 05:20 VanessaE ah 05:21 thefamilygrog66 nothing was growing! 05:28 VanessaE well one thing I just discovered, having my CPU set to "ondemand" is costing me a good 5 fps in the game. 05:28 VanessaE (set it to 'performance' for all cores and got an instant boost) 05:30 Kacey it is getting so late here that i can barely see straight... 05:34 VanessaE I'm also nothing that aticonfig shows my GPU is at 0% load most of the time 05:34 VanessaE noting* 05:41 VanessaE wow, shaders are expensive on my box now. odd. 05:41 VanessaE 23 fps in 'ondemand mode' and shaders, 27 fps in 'performance' mode, 37 fps if I turn off shaders 05:45 Kacey seconds of lag! 05:46 Kacey 10.5 06:38 VanessaE bbl 08:05 Calinou lol'd http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93633#p93633 09:01 qznc Yay, 0.4.7 \o/ 09:01 qznc MapgenV7 does not work yet? 09:22 whirm1 where's the changelog? 09:24 qznc Changelog: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.6_.E2.86.92_0.4.7 09:27 Calinou qznc: it doesn't 09:27 Calinou it only generates stone anyway 10:00 KikaRz hey there 10:00 KikaRz finally... 1.7.4 launched up 10:00 KikaRz *0.4.7 10:01 KikaRz Good news: Portugal schools now support Minetest 10:13 whirm1 qznc: thx! 10:17 Calinou portugal schools now use something newer than pentium III? 10:37 rubenwardy Hi all! 10:54 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:59 rubenwardy Installer added: http://minetest.net/download 10:59 rubenwardy Hi! 11:00 Calinou hi 11:21 rubenwardy close one http://i.imgur.com/ZX5gQ.gif 12:18 * john_minetest just took a cool-looking screenshot. 12:45 rubenwardy what the fuck is tjbarber doing? 12:48 rubenwardy what the fuck are you doing tjbarber? 12:48 KikaRz Hello >( 12:48 KikaRz :) 12:48 rubenwardy Hi 12:49 KikaRz So, what are you people doing_ 12:49 KikaRz ? 12:50 rubenwardy Having a party 12:50 rubenwardy PA's dancing 12:50 KikaRz Where? *-* 12:50 rubenwardy (really bad) 12:50 rubenwardy In this room of course! 12:50 KikaRz PA = Who? 12:50 rubenwardy PilzA 12:50 KikaRz ... Damn, that guy... 12:50 rubenwardy he who shall not be named 12:51 rubenwardy Satan! 12:51 KikaRz Well, let me change my keyboard and my language 12:51 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you can write my full nick, PA pings me anyway 12:51 rubenwardy damn 12:51 rubenwardy just like how ruben and ward pings me 12:51 KikaRz éàèé 12:51 KikaRz working :D 12:52 rubenwardy What you doing, PA? 12:52 PilzAdam watching scrubs 12:52 rubenwardy ah 12:54 KikaRz omfg, damn windows got 113 updates to do?? 12:54 rubenwardy Great party 12:54 rubenwardy Jordach is in the corner rapping 12:55 KikaRz Well... anyways... I already tried version 0.4.7 into my college network 12:56 Calinou PilzAdam: pulseaudio haters will highlight you often ;) 12:57 KikaRz guys, one baby died on Italy, because the kid that has 2 years old, was forgotten 8 hours in the car... at hot temperatures. 12:57 KikaRz car reached 60º C 12:58 KikaRz And... died a baby in Aveiro, Portugal. 12:58 KikaRz At 4 years that a baby of 9 months died after hours forgotten into a car. 13:13 BlockMen finally it stops rising -> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/07/water-stops-rising-in-flood-hit-germany/2399319/ 13:39 harrison Has anyone ever gotten pulseaudio to work? Or is it actually a metalevel joke: an open software project designed to be uninstallable? 13:40 harrison That is certainly my experience. 13:47 rubenwardy Is this correct microcontroller code? if(B)off(B)elseon(B); 13:49 rubenwardy if(A&&!D)on(D);if(A&&C)if(B)off(B)elseon(B);; 13:51 rubenwardy if(A&!D)on(D);if(A&C)off(D)if(B)off(B)elseon(B);; 13:52 rubenwardy how can I toggle a point? 13:52 BlockMen bye 13:56 rubenwardy You guys are so helpful 13:56 rubenwardy if(A&!D)on(D);if(A&C)off(D)if(B)off(B)>on(B);; 13:57 rubenwardy done 14:02 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz 14:02 MinetestBot rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (529ms) 14:03 rubenwardy Making a self repairing bridge 14:05 rubenwardy or cornveyer belt 14:22 rubenwardy bye all 14:30 sfan5 hi 14:35 NakedFury hi 14:37 PilzAdam rubenwardy, lua controller 14:37 rubenwardy but thats cheating! 15:05 Zeg9 Hello! 15:06 VanessaE hi all 15:06 Kacey good morning all 15:06 Jordach hey all 15:09 swilde hi *, I wonder if some change made lava sees (in subterrestial caves) less common or even no longer generated. 15:10 PilzAdam nope 15:10 NakedFury there hasnt been a world gen work on a while that I remember 15:10 VanessaE seas* 15:10 swilde searching for one I've been digging down about -1300 not seeing any, but then it seems I'm just unlucky... 15:11 * swilde needs mor obsidian 15:11 swilde PilzAdam: thanks, i'll try another spot... 15:14 Zeg9 swilde: I still have lava "seas" but they are different than before, they are not flat 15:21 Jordach what are the minetest textures licensed as 15:21 VanessaE cc-by-sa 15:21 PilzAdam see README 15:21 Jordach thanks VanessaE 15:21 PilzAdam not all have the same license 15:22 PilzAdam so, what VanessaE said is wrong 15:23 VanessaE when was that changed? 15:23 VanessaE the readme still says it. 15:24 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L253 15:24 VanessaE so if I'm wrong, you're just as wrong for citing the same document I am. 15:24 PilzAdam e.g. your textures are marked as WTFPL 15:25 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/README.txt#L73 15:25 VanessaE I'm pretty sure he's asking about the license of the distribution as a whole 15:25 VanessaE not of the individual textures 15:26 VanessaE either way only one of the two documents can be correct - fix one of them. 15:26 sfan5 !server ping:least 15:26 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest❤Ru | minetest.ru | Clients: 2/100 | Version: 0.4.5 | ping: 0.102 15:26 PilzAdam well, then you have to choose the most restrictive license, wich is CC BY-SA 15:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, what two documents? 15:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: the two readmes. 15:27 PilzAdam there are like 20 READMEs in my minetest folder 15:27 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt versus https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/README.txt 15:28 PilzAdam the first one only applies to the engine 15:28 PilzAdam (+ minimal) 15:28 VanessaE ok 15:29 VanessaE still, cc-by-sa is the correct answer either way, if you take Jordach's question to mean what I presumed. 15:30 PilzAdam well, you can still redistribute your textures under a different license 15:31 PilzAdam so telling people that some of the textures are WTFPL is good 15:33 VanessaE meh 15:33 VanessaE at least we're not arguing about permissive vs. non-permissive licenses ala mauvebic 15:40 Jordach *microwave ding* http://i.imgur.com/aWU4MtU.png 15:44 Jordach hexchat crash 15:46 Jordach VanessaE, seen my website design yet? 15:46 VanessaE saw it. too busy for my taste 15:46 Jordach and you say the current one isnt 15:47 Jordach go look at minetest.net and compare 15:48 VanessaE meh, don't really care anyway 15:51 Zeg9 anyone knows an simple uploader (no javascript, no ads etc.) like ompldr, but not dead? 15:53 khonkhortisan www.tiikoni.com/tis/‎ idk about js 15:54 Zeg9 does it only allow images? 15:54 khonkhortisan oh 15:54 Zeg9 never mind, I wanted to post a gimp file anyway 15:54 khonkhortisan I think so 15:54 VanessaE why not use github? images can be linked-to directly without using js, and of course you know how to manage the files in your repo 15:55 Zeg9 TIS thing seems to work fine 15:56 Zeg9 well now firefox wants to open .xcf's with krita... 15:56 VanessaE I didn't know anything but gimp could open those 15:56 VanessaE :) 15:57 Zeg9 rubenwardy, /me made an image for the installer 15:57 Zeg9 http://i.imgur.com/IzrxAza.png 15:58 rubenwardy Code? 15:58 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5397343 15:59 Zeg9 WizardImageFile=*.bmp 15:59 Zeg9 I'll try now with the script 16:00 Zeg9 hmm where did I put inno setup again 16:01 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 16:01 Zeg9 Hi 16:01 VanessaE hi 16:02 thexyz Zeg9: mega? 16:02 thexyz oh, no javascript 16:02 Zeg9 Wait, there are bash scripts for it 16:02 Zeg9 I think mega is the best uploader ATM 16:03 Zeg9 rubenwardy: does this run from minetest win32 .zip? 16:03 rubenwardy yeah 16:04 Zeg9 Could not read "Z:\home\guillaume\Desktop\minetest-0.4.7\minetest\doc\INSTALL.txt". 16:05 Zeg9 never mind, made an empty file 16:06 rubenwardy I just got readme.txt and took all unnessacary stuff out 16:07 rubenwardy and added >> DO NOT INSTALL INTO PROGRAM FILES << at the top 16:10 Zeg9 Inno setup is annoying me with his bitmap files, it requires some special settings... 16:11 Zeg9 and of course I never remember them 16:12 rubenwardy http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/inspiration/programming-jokes-comics-videos/ 16:27 * ShadowNinja got his first kernel panic, yay... 16:28 ShadowNinja How do I view this gparted dialog that takes up more than the height of my screen? 16:29 ShadowNinja Something is apparently wrong with the main partition of the SDCard 16:36 sokomine kernel panics where more common at the beginning of linux. now they almost only happen if you forget a driver that's needed for startup 16:37 sokomine why are you using an sdcard anyway? handy? raspberry pi? something similar? 16:38 Jordach sokomine, yup 16:38 Jordach ShadowNinja is using one 16:38 sokomine what exactly? :-) 16:38 sokomine the pi? 16:39 Jordach yes 16:39 Jordach sokomine, i have a secret minetest server 16:41 sokomine hm :) i suppose each local game is a "secret" server in a way :-) so what's special about yours? 16:41 ShadowNinja Grrr, with this much damage I will need to start over. 16:41 sokomine running one on a raspberry pi might be very intresting 16:41 sokomine hope you'll get it running, shadowninja 16:41 sokomine or do have a replacement card at hand if the card's the problem 16:42 Jordach sokomine, mines outward facing as a public server 16:46 sokomine ah. so what's secret about it? 16:46 sokomine does it have any good builds? 16:46 PilzAdam nobody plays on it :-p 16:47 sokomine hi pilzadam 16:47 sokomine hm, yes, we have more than enough servers.... 16:47 sokomine though thanks to the new serverlist at startup, more players seem to join 16:47 Zeg9 depends if it is going to be different... 16:51 Zeg9 sfan5: on your server when I click back (to access inventory_plus) it just changes the crafting grid position 16:51 khonkhortisan > bin/minetest --keep-restarting-until-unit-tests-succeed 16:52 PilzAdam better fix: change one of the sleep_ms(50); to 100 in test.cpp (cant remember wich one) 17:00 sfan5 Zeg9: in case you want to quickly upload a file: http://sfan5.dyndns.org/upload/ 17:00 Zeg9 sfan5: thanks, I'll use this next time. Whats the expire time? 17:00 sfan5 none 17:00 sfan5 yet.. 17:01 sfan5 but I can't guarantee uptime 17:01 sfan5 I'll first make it look nicer, then I'll maybe put it onto my vps 17:02 PilzAdam sfan5, it already looks incredible good 17:02 PilzAdam dont bloat it 17:03 sfan5 looks good? it looks very minimalistic 17:05 Zeg9 Minimalistic = good 17:05 Zeg9 Maybe add a bit of CSS just for a background color or something like that, maybe a logo, font and it will be done. 17:07 sfan5 actually going to do that now 17:07 Jordach <3 CSS 17:09 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/5oHKEZn.png 17:11 Zeg9 Nice, maybe change the grey part to a dark red 17:11 Zeg9 (for lava) 17:18 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/TjyvAh2.png Zeg9 17:19 Calinou I'd make the yellow more orange-ish 17:20 Calinou looks like the paste intel puts in their CPUs since ivy bridge + red dots right now 17:20 VanessaE Zeg9: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-steel/pull/2 17:20 Jordach Calinou, i remember when minetest had > 100 textures 17:21 Calinou it still does 17:22 Jordach Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/2xIM0vV.png 17:22 Calinou make it even more orange-ish 17:23 Calinou and it should look good 17:25 Jordach Calinou, i've changed the texture several times 17:25 Jordach my gpu is having its fragments again 17:25 * Zeg9 prefered the yellow-ish one 17:26 Calinou Jordach: update to nvidia 320.18 17:26 Calinou :huge phoronix rolleyes: 17:26 Jordach Calinou, zing 17:26 Calinou actually that's sarcasm 17:26 Calinou 320.18 is really, really broken and AFAIK has a fucked up voltage regulator 17:26 Calinou == can destroy GPUs/cause artefacts and high temps 17:27 * Calinou is still on 319.17 since he upgraded to 13.04 17:27 Jordach im using 266.77 17:27 Jordach and i can render 100000+ tris 17:27 VanessaE Zeg9: wait on that pull request, I need to fix it. 17:28 Zeg9 ok 17:28 Zeg9 VanessaE: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93669#p93669 17:28 Zeg9 Please fix the on_rightclick thing 17:29 VanessaE sure 17:30 VanessaE ok, pull request is updated. 17:31 VanessaE checking homedecor npw 17:31 VanessaE now* 17:32 VanessaE actually keep waiting on that request 17:32 VanessaE it'll have the same issue you reported on homedecor's doors code (lighting is affected too) 17:32 Jordach HUH 17:33 Jordach forward slash nolonger highlights itself anymore 17:35 Jordach imgur y u timeout 17:35 VanessaE Zeg9: ok, my pull request is finished, and I made the requested changes to homedecor. 17:35 Zeg9 Thanks! 17:36 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/AGoEoCr.png 17:36 Zeg9 VanessaE: what about using item_place_node instead of add_node ? This would make it compatible with all protector mods at once 17:36 Jordach grass_1-5.png done 17:37 Calinou Jordach: dat goofy smiles 17:37 Calinou on bones 17:37 Jordach Calinou, yeah 17:37 Calinou and i can render 100000+ tris 17:37 * Zeg9 likes the bones :D 17:37 Calinou play stuntrally, the linux version of anno 2070 17:37 Zeg9 ...also the grass lol 17:37 Calinou 700k tris 60 FPS very high settings 17:38 Jordach Calinou, im geforce 62xx 17:38 Calinou this game is unplayable on max settings with any graphics card :P 17:38 Jordach i can upgrade to geforce 70xx 17:38 Calinou you're a graphics card now? :D 17:38 Jordach Calinou, haha 17:38 Jordach Calinou, ever seen the MC pack tiny pixels? 17:38 Jordach !g tiny pixels pack 17:38 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/873112-16x-124-tiny-pixels-by-leostereo-25th-of-march-now-with-pocket-edition-support/ 17:38 Jordach there we go 17:38 Jordach i think 17:38 Jordach MinetestBot, get better im feeling lucky searches 17:39 VanessaE Zeg9: could you edit the pull request and try it out? I've never used that function before. 17:39 Calinou \o/ leo stereo 17:39 Calinou this guy is way worse than KrisEike at trolling, but still 17:39 Jordach thats the pack 17:39 Jordach mine looks identical 17:40 Jordach except has a hybrid OCD feel 17:42 * VanessaE tries it out with homedecor lighting code 17:42 * VanessaE does not. 17:42 Jordach hi ShadowBot 17:42 Jordach hey MinetestBot 17:42 MinetestBot Hello Jordach 17:42 Jordach at least MinetestBot likes me :) 17:42 ShadowNinja Running an onler copy. 17:43 * Calinou is stuck on "hell" on candy box hardmode :( 17:43 Calinou tried turtle potions and all that, still fails 17:43 Calinou level 5 sword of life (can't go above level 5) 17:43 ShadowNinja older* 17:43 * Jordach hands Calinou a masterball 17:44 Calinou this isn't pokemon >:o 17:45 VanessaE Zeg9: I don't see how to work this function into my code as there's no way to set the facedir when placing the node 17:47 Zeg9 VanessaE: never mind,I'll merge it as-is 17:47 Zeg9 Maybe I'll borrow some code from homedecor to check for protects 17:47 VanessaE Zeg9: I didn't add anything into that code to check for ownership, so you'll..yeah 17:48 Zeg9 I'll maybe try my idea before if I have time though 17:48 VanessaE ok 17:48 VanessaE maybe if you blindly execute the function and check if the returned itemstack was modified? 17:49 VanessaE and then overwrite the placed node with the real one if true 17:49 Zeg9 Hmm. Maybe using after_place_node or on_construct... 17:50 Zeg9 Never mind, I'll use code from homedecor :D 17:50 VanessaE heh 17:50 Zeg9 oh, gpl... 17:51 * Jordach hears Zeg9 say NOPE in his head 17:51 VanessaE go ahead and use it anyway 17:51 sokomine why that? the gpl's not likely to cause trouble for a mod? 17:51 VanessaE I don't care :) 17:51 PilzAdam VanessaE, you do notice you just released the code as WTFPL? 17:51 VanessaE the mod as a whole is only GPL because it uses some bits and pieces from the default game. 17:52 VanessaE the function you need is safe to use under WTFPL if you want 17:52 VanessaE as it's all my own code 17:52 Zeg9 sokomine: my mod is wtfpl but homedecor is gpl so I wouldnt use code from it. But if its ok to release this part under wtfpl... 17:52 sokomine ah, ok 17:52 Jordach hey BrandonReese 17:52 BrandonReese hey 17:57 Jordach btw, i suggest we change the wieldhand to something more like the player's hand 17:57 Jordach ...or actually use the player models arm 18:01 Zeg9 Steel mod updated 18:02 NakedFury I wanna use two hands when I swing my pick axe 18:07 Jordach you know that bug where saplings cause light errors 18:09 sfan5 so apparently my mail account got hacked :/ 18:09 sfan5 good thing I have 3 others 18:09 PilzAdam by sfan4 ? 18:09 sfan5 ?? 18:10 Jordach ha 18:10 * Zeg9 leaves ! bye all ! 18:15 sfan5 ! 2011 - 16 18:15 sfan5 !c 2011 - 16 18:15 MinetestBot 1995 18:16 sfan5 !c 5991 + 61 18:16 MinetestBot 6052 18:16 Jordach !c 2012 mod 4 18:16 MinetestBot 0 18:16 Jordach huh 18:16 Jordach it supports mod 18:16 Jordach !c 2012 mod 5 18:16 MinetestBot 2 18:16 Jordach modulo ops are allowed 18:16 Jordach MY GOD 18:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: something needs done with sheep so that they don't gather into small holes, maybe make them die off if they can't move more than, oh, 3 nodes 18:25 VanessaE maybe that would be too hard, but anyway 18:25 Jordach or limit their spawning]# 18:25 VanessaE that too 18:26 VanessaE and fix the bug that causes them to keep disappearing 18:26 PilzAdam I would rather add some anti "walk over cliff edge" protection 18:26 VanessaE don't let them spawn more than some number in a map block 18:26 sokomine mobf checks if there arn't too many of the same type of mobs around in the same area. guess that's one of the factors that makes it slower 18:26 PilzAdam simple mobs already has this limit 18:27 sokomine ah. fine 18:27 PilzAdam the engine passes an active_object_count to the spawn ABM 18:27 sokomine trouble is that your sheep "climb" (=jump) on each other. if there're many of them, they may stack 3-4 sheep high - and thus escape 18:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: then why was I finding huge numbers crammed into a cage until I put stone bricks on the floor thereof? 18:28 sokomine they're not well suited to be kept as farm animals :-( but they're certainly better than nothing 18:28 sokomine at least something *is* running around :-) 18:29 VanessaE also regarding carts, the collision box is too big - a mesecons piston one node over can push a cart off of its tracks. 18:30 sokomine what's buddy boost? 18:30 sokomine but yes, maybe they did. they're sheep with faces. creepy animals in a way :-) 18:31 Jordach john_minetest, lol MoH 18:36 Jordach fuck. just potted the cue ball in pool 19:47 Jordach i have a player texture possible upgrade 19:47 Jordach it involves the shiny hat layer no one has used 19:47 Jordach (i made the hair as a hat!) 19:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OupOmsB.png 19:51 VanessaE not bad. 19:51 Jordach VanessaE, it does look better in some aspects 19:52 Jordach it doesnt feel flat 19:52 * Jordach installs git 19:52 PilzAdam what if a mod wants to add a hat? 19:52 Jordach they overwrite the layer 19:52 Jordach Minecraft does the same, infact it removes the hat layer 19:53 Jordach ours is better due to the ability to overlay textures 19:53 Jordach (at runtime) 19:54 Calinou gotta like the "LE" 19:54 Calinou Jordach: +1 for hair as hat 19:54 Calinou pull request maybe ;) 19:54 Jordach thank you. 19:54 Jordach Calinou, installing git as we speak 19:54 Calinou sudo apt-get install <= first thing I do after installing a fresh *buntu system :3 19:56 Jordach Calinou, yeah 19:56 Jordach ubuntu-restricted-extras being one of said things 19:56 Jordach Calinou, i also darkened the hair under the hat layer 19:57 PilzAdam doesnt this violate the simplicity of the model? 19:58 Jordach PilzAdam, and 19:58 Jordach no-one makes use of the hat layer afaik 19:58 * PilzAdam just being a naysayer 19:59 Calinou Jordach: I actually don't have ubuntu-restricted-extras 19:59 Jordach PilzAdam, ill give you some euros and buy yourself a double espresso 19:59 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/5742928/ :3 20:00 Calinou vrms doesn't count steam and warsow too, since they're from external repos :P 20:01 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/168 20:01 Jordach gogogo 20:01 Jordach i might tweak the player texture further and move the eyes and mouth higher 20:02 Jordach because pavel_s noted that the player model is missing it's mouth, which is on the jaw line 20:04 Calinou would look weird, no? 20:04 Calinou gotta like how you named the player :P 20:06 Jordach im also fixing the moonflower pull request RBA wanted 20:07 Jordach and perhaps a glowing node as well 20:09 Calinou inb4 default:glowing_mese crafted from 9 mese blocks 20:09 VanessaE "compressed" mese 20:09 VanessaE infinity-blocks mod already did that 20:09 VanessaE or infinity-tools or whatever itwas 20:10 Jordach im not suggesting glow mese 20:10 PilzAdam how about making mese glowing, so the shards can be used for the glowing dye system RBA wants 20:10 VanessaE besides, mesecons already makes mese blocks glow :) 20:10 Jordach yeah 20:10 VanessaE (when they're powered - they're conductive) 20:10 Jordach mese fragments make yellow lamps 20:10 NakedFury glowing mese would be cool 20:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: shards are already used to make maesecons. 20:10 VanessaE mesecons* 20:11 PilzAdam you know, there can be more thatn 1 recipe that uses a material 20:11 PilzAdam -t 20:11 VanessaE yes but given how simplistic default recipes tend to be.... 20:11 VanessaE :) 20:11 PilzAdam for mesecons you need to cook them, right? 20:11 VanessaE I don't remember actually 20:12 PilzAdam shard + dye = glowing dye 20:12 PilzAdam or/and shard + stick = mese torch 20:13 VanessaE no 20:13 VanessaE shard needs to be ground into powder first. 20:14 Jordach how about the moonflower making the dye 20:14 ExcaliburZero I just downloaded the new version of Minetest and moved all of my worlds and mods over, but for some reason it gives me an error when I try to run it. 20:14 VanessaE Jordach: that was the original plan. 20:14 Jordach actually, moonflower + mese fragment = glowing dye 20:14 PilzAdam ExcaliburZero, make sure you changed the folder structure of the mods to the new system 20:15 ExcaliburZero PilzAdam: How do I do that? 20:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, should I start talking about simplicity of recipes again? 20:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: add the mortar and pestle I menntioned. 20:15 PilzAdam ExcaliburZero, http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods 20:15 VanessaE use those to crush flowers, mese fragments, etc. into dyes/mese powder 20:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, I once talked about the crafting system on -dev 20:15 VanessaE craft mese powder + dye = glowing dye of that color. 20:15 PilzAdam it was with RBA about the moonflower IIRC 20:16 ExcaliburZero My current path for the mods is "minetest-0.4.7\mods" 20:16 Jordach btw, almost done with the moonflower 20:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: you're not listening at all. 20:17 VanessaE and I saw the discussion, you failed to listen then also. 20:18 * Calinou just got le 1st place on trackmania 20:18 VanessaE we NEED a new crafting path. crafting a mortar and pestle object (from cobble and sticks), and then crafting that object with some other item to get a powder is the smartest way to do it 20:18 VanessaE and mortar&pestle has been used for thousands of years for that purpose. 20:19 VanessaE using that method to crush flowers into dye powder makes more sense than just sticking one into the crafting grid. 20:19 VanessaE (and the idea is you get the mortar&pestle back via replacements={{}} ) 20:19 PilzAdam that will be MTs brewing 20:19 PilzAdam people hated that in MC for a reason 20:19 VanessaE eh? 20:19 Jordach THIS is the two crafts: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5742989/ 20:19 VanessaE MC did that? 20:19 PilzAdam it destroys the simple system of crafting 20:20 Jordach one for the dye, one for the glowing mese 20:20 VanessaE the crafting system is TOO simple, that's the problem 20:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, MC added brewing of potions 20:20 VanessaE I'm not talking about brewing anything. 20:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, its not a problem, its what makes the game so good 20:20 VanessaE I'm talking about straight crafting. 20:21 PilzAdam there should be a different game that breaks this concept, i.e. adding new ways of producing things 20:21 VanessaE cobble+sticks -> mortar&pestle; mortar&pestle + flower = dye + mortar&pestle 20:21 VanessaE there aren't enough default paths to create stuff - all we have is crafting and cooking. 20:21 VanessaE we need at least one more simple method 20:22 ExcaliburZero When I run the game it gives me this error: 20:22 ExcaliburZero "ModError: Unresolved name conflicts for mods "mesecons", "mesecons_alias", "mesecons_blinkyplant", "mesecons_button", "mesecons_commandblock"," 20:22 VanessaE ExcaliburZero: you've got more than one copy of mesecons installed - which is a modpack by the way 20:22 Calinou PilzAdam: potions are useless in MC 20:23 Calinou you need to get 1) blaze rods which are HARD to get in multiplayer 20:23 PilzAdam ExcaliburZero, http://dev.minetest.net/Mod_name_conflicts 20:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: you need to stop naysaying stuff just because MC has, or doesn't have some things. 20:23 Calinou 2) for things other than weakness potions (useless in non-PvP), you need nether wart. if you find one you might as well play lottery in multiplayer 20:23 Calinou but the ingredients other than that aren't that hard to get 20:23 Calinou fun fact: speed I is useless unless you want to save hunger 20:24 Calinou fun fact II: speed II's improvement over sprintjumping is very small 20:24 Calinou fun fact 3: night vision potions? lol, better use texture packs that modify the lightmaps 20:24 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/0cHDCN7.png 20:24 Jordach PilzAdam, VanessaE ^ 20:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: we're smart enough to add new things while avoiding Mojang's mistakes. 20:24 Calinou VanessaE: PilzAdam actually tries to copy MC sometimes, he's the guy who put non renewable lava in minetest :P 20:25 VanessaE Jordach: interesting.. 20:25 PilzAdam VanessaE, yes, and not putting new crafting ways in is avoiding Mojangs mistakes 20:25 VanessaE um 20:25 VanessaE this isn't a new crafting method, it's just a new path. 20:26 VanessaE and avoiding their mistakes means avoiding doing utterly stupid shit. 20:26 VanessaE there's nothing stupid about my suggestion. 20:26 PilzAdam way != path? 20:26 VanessaE no. 20:26 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/dCjcv8O.png 20:26 VanessaE I'm talking about keeping everything in the crafting grid, not producing some new machine node. 20:26 Jordach ^ glowing mese 20:26 Jordach (missing texture atm) 20:27 StarBlessed Hi guys. :) Looks like I walked into world war 7.5 20:27 Jordach hey StarBlessed 20:27 PilzAdam StarBlessed, yes, PilzAdam vs. rest of the world 20:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: craft this, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/mortar_and_pestle.png 20:27 VanessaE from this: - - S 20:27 VanessaE C S C 20:27 VanessaE - C - 20:27 StarBlessed Can I make a non partisan observation? 20:28 VanessaE eh, line break error. C=cobble, S=stick 20:28 VanessaE place one of those into the crafting grid along with a flower or mese fragment. Yields 4 dye or whatever + you get the mortar&pestle back. 20:28 VanessaE it could not possibly be any simpler. 20:30 * john_minetest is bored to death. 20:30 PilzAdam john_minetest, http://youtu.be/AQukOI5bs4k 20:30 VanessaE make it take a long time (say, 500 uses) for the mortar and pestle to wear out. 20:30 * Calinou is bored to life 20:31 StarBlessed From an outsiders perspective, Minetest has kinda lost its focus. The project is trying to be many things to many people. While I agree there are some things that should be included in the game by default, the joy of Minecraft was its ability to become "Your" game through setting up and installing mods in you own way. Using Minetest as a framework is joyous and fulfilling. I'm sad when I read posts where everyone is arguing over what Minetest sh 20:31 StarBlessed ould and shouldnt be... 20:36 StarBlessed If I were to prioritize what the focus of the Minetest project should be (This is only personal opinion of course), then the two most important would be the Modding API, and Multiplayer. The content will take care of itself via the community. "If you build it, they will come" kinda deal ;) 20:37 StarBlessed I talk some shiz at 7 in the morning. Sorry. Ill shut up now. 20:37 Jordach test moonflower here: https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/commits/moonflower 20:37 Jordach i've already tested it and it works 20:38 Jordach feel free to add suggestions 20:39 Jordach (moonflowers are rather rare, so i used giveme) 20:42 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/169 20:42 Jordach !title 20:42 MinetestBot Jordach: Add Moonflower, Glowing Mese / Dye by Jordach · Pull Request #169 · minetest/minetest_game · GitH[...] 20:43 Jordach yay 169 20:43 Jordach -1 20:43 StarBlessed +69 20:43 Jordach i did what RBA wanted to do in less than an hour 20:43 Jordach without the bullshit 20:45 StarBlessed I think I just annoyed everyone :( 20:45 StarBlessed They all stopped talking lol 20:45 PilzAdam StarBlessed, nope 20:45 VanessaE not at all, StarBlessed 20:45 Exio hi 20:46 * Jordach gives Nick a kitten 20:46 StarBlessed I hope not. I dislike the tension I have witnessed within the project. 20:46 Jordach mhm, RBA made tonnes of tension with the moonflower 20:46 StarBlessed I just like peepz to be happy and enjoy the game ya know? 20:46 Jordach i just went ahead and DID IT. 20:46 * StarBlessed sits in the corner, stroking his.... kitty. 20:47 frogcrush1 Face it, when you have women working on a project, there is going to be tension 20:47 Jordach okay, thats worth a kick 20:47 frogcrush1 ;) 20:47 Jordach or a muting 20:47 frogcrush1 I'm kidding 20:47 frogcrush1 People 20:47 Exio Jordach: +ban 20:47 frogcrush1 Ouch 20:47 StarBlessed See, now if I were Op'd in the room, you wouldn't be able to get out a second line frogcrush1 20:48 kahrl StarBlessed: tension is good, it is what makes your clocks run 20:48 PilzAdam !op StarBlessed 20:48 Jordach \o/ 20:48 sokomine op seems to be handled here very well. it is only used when needed. strange ideas about the contributions of women don't make op necessary :-) 20:48 Jordach PilzAdam, have you reviewed my changes 20:48 PilzAdam not yet 20:48 Jordach okay. 20:49 * StarBlessed readies his Ban Hammer... ;) 20:49 StarBlessed kahrl: Tension CAN be good, but Motivation is much better. 20:50 frogcrush1 Your motivation is the fact that if you do bad work, someone is going to get mad at you 20:50 Calinou who is StarBlessed, and how did he get op? 20:50 Jordach starblessed is the one who makes the really good minetest lps 20:50 StarBlessed I think PilzAdam is just playing ;) 20:50 Calinou minetest lollipops! 20:50 * Calinou buys one for 50 candies 20:51 Jordach i really should add more useful content into minetest_game 20:52 frogcrush1 Add coffee 20:52 StarBlessed Thats ok Jordach, I really should learn how to mod ;) 20:52 Calinou oh, StarBlessed is that guy using linux mint and a cat 20:52 Calinou :3 20:52 Jordach lets just add simple mobs into minetest_game 20:52 StarBlessed *meow* 20:52 Jordach solve the longstanding "no mobs" issue 20:52 Calinou whose bedroom is more tidy than mine, and at least doesn't have mobo/PSU packages :3 20:53 StarBlessed Calinou: No, its not really, I just aim the camera high ;) 20:53 sokomine straw would be nice. it's a good material for roofs. or has it been added already? if farming is added, straw might be obtainable 20:54 Calinou +1 for straw/hay bales 20:54 PilzAdam people, seriously, we have this thing called "mods" 20:54 Jordach actually, thats what long weeds should grow into 20:54 sokomine oh yes. if someone comes up with a texture for hay bales that would be great as well! 20:54 StarBlessed Oh, I had an idea for a mod if anyone is interested... It would be an addon for something like more ores... It already uses existing nodes. Tempered Metals! 20:54 Calinou there is no weed in the default farming 20:54 sokomine there's the grass 20:55 sokomine tempered metals? what would they do? 20:55 frogcrush1 They would get mad a lot 20:55 * frogcrush1 is very bored 20:55 sokomine ah, like those strange evil blocks? 20:56 StarBlessed Harder Wearing metals. You can get steel already, but tempering it would increase its longevity. 20:56 Calinou "Using Minetest as a framework is joyous and fulfilling." 20:56 Jordach by firing steel again 20:56 StarBlessed Tempered Iron etc. 20:56 sokomine ah! sounds like a good idea 20:56 Calinou problem is that the general user doesn't want to mess around with their game to enjoy it 20:56 PilzAdam StarBlessed, you should try out MiniTest :-) 20:56 frogcrush1 The general user just wants to play the game 20:56 Calinou it is not a problem to most of us here because we are... well, tinkerers, geeks, nerds, whatever 20:56 Jordach steel lump -> steel ingot -> tempered steel ingot 20:56 StarBlessed Mini test? 20:57 StarBlessed Kinda, yeah Jordach 20:57 Calinou MiniTest tries to be as close as minecraft as possible :P 20:57 PilzAdam StarBlessed, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2589 20:57 Calinou PilzAdam: btw, did you change the default player move speed? 20:57 StarBlessed I was thinking tempering it in oil or water... 20:57 PilzAdam Calinou, yes 20:57 StarBlessed Minecraft? 20:57 Calinou Minceraft! 20:57 StarBlessed Hmmmm 20:57 Jordach i know why the game is lacking in actual things todo 20:57 Calinou https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/blob/master/minetest.conf 20:58 Calinou good, but is the minetest.conf actually read? 20:58 PilzAdam yes 20:58 Calinou also, maybe make a few tweaks 20:58 Jordach PilzAdam, if you want to make your own game: thats fine 20:58 StarBlessed I kinda like the Minetest Server side... I like that there dont have to be any client side mods... 20:58 Jordach but other people must have their say 20:59 Jordach for minetest_game 20:59 Jordach its unintuitive to have an empty game and expect magical content in your face the instant you start the game 20:59 Jordach people are expecting a game, not a sandbox 20:59 Calinou PilzAdam: try setting gravity to a slightly higher value 21:00 PilzAdam Calinou, problem is that MCs gravity is different from MTs 21:00 Calinou also in minecraft, accelerating/decelerating is much slower 21:00 Calinou in air it is very very slow 21:01 StarBlessed BRB... SMOKO! 21:01 * Calinou downloads minitest to try 21:01 * Calinou uses git 21:01 Calinou chromium is too mainstream 21:03 PilzAdam Calinou, https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/commit/45b899b222655b512b7c759a495610a339ad9baa 21:03 Calinou I'll try 21:03 Calinou also maybe reduce walk speed to 4.2 instead of 4.3 21:03 Calinou 4.3 feels a bit fast compared to MC 21:04 PilzAdam oh, the last commit breaks liquid sinking 21:04 Calinou yea 21:04 Calinou acceleration feels nice now on ground 21:04 Calinou make it even lower in air 21:04 PilzAdam movement_liquid_sink = 24 21:06 Calinou a thought about textures: the grass could be darkened and made slightly less greener, and leaves should also be less green 21:06 Jordach btw, you may want to see #170 21:06 PilzAdam Zeg9 made the textures 21:06 Calinou I know 21:08 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/2.jpg 21:08 Calinou ideally it should look similar to this 21:08 Calinou why not use the same colors? 21:08 Calinou ;) 21:10 StarBlessed Ok, back again :) 21:10 Calinou wb 21:10 StarBlessed Thanks :D 21:11 Jordach PilzAdam, to an outsider: more content is good content 21:11 Jordach thats why dwarves worked 21:11 StarBlessed Ive been trying to get time to do the next video, but damn... my whole family (including myself) have the flu 21:11 Jordach dun dun durr 21:11 Jordach minetest_game is a game 21:12 Jordach things like mesecons are REAL mods 21:12 StarBlessed 4 month old son; 5 year old son and wife... all coughing and spluttering... not a good site. 21:12 StarBlessed fight 21:12 Calinou 5 year old wife? 21:12 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes: 21:12 StarBlessed sight* 21:12 Jordach because they make a new and interesting experience 21:14 Jordach moreblocks should be in default imho 21:14 StarBlessed Just out of curiosity, what are the two biggest targets for the Minetest project as it stands right now? 21:14 Jordach because its not really an experience 21:14 Calinou buuut 21:14 Calinou crafting checkers, glowglass, panels and microblocks is an experience! 21:14 Calinou >:o 21:14 Jordach yes 21:14 Calinou and the infamous moreblocks:nothing! 21:14 Jordach but crafting a saw is the hard part? 21:15 Jordach and i can see why RBA doesnt like PilzAdam controlling minetest_game 21:33 StarBlessed or not. lol 21:36 harrison if you are really asking "what is the new film going to be titled?" i can answer that 21:37 harrison Gate. Fountain. Houri. Pearled Mouse. 21:37 PilzAdam harrison, no colors in this channel ;-) 21:39 harrison understood 21:41 StarBlessed Just curious, and I know this has probably been answered before (in fact Im sure it has), but why does it take so long for the content to be sent down from the server when connecting to Multiplayer? Is it a CRC check or something? 21:42 Calinou StarBlessed: the server sends the data directly to the player 21:42 Calinou it is very slow (20KB/s at best, usually about 5KB/sec) 21:42 Calinou however the server can set up a "remote media" server using HTTP (tip: dropbox can be used for that purpose) 21:42 Calinou which makes the downloads much faster 21:42 Calinou kinda like quake 3 does :P 21:42 StarBlessed Yeah... Is there a quick tutorial on how to do that? 21:43 StarBlessed I would really like to decrease the login time for my server is all 21:43 StarBlessed At the moment it takes almost 5 minutes ;) 21:44 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5972 21:44 StarBlessed I mean, I have a dedicated server that is on a 1GB connection. It shouldnt take so long to login. LOL 21:44 Calinou dedicated? you have the whole machine? 21:44 Calinou dat rich guy 21:45 StarBlessed Youre a legend Calinou. Thanks. 21:45 Calinou :3 21:45 sokomine 5 minutes? that's almost nothing. vanessas server ended up with 30 minutes first 21:45 Calinou 5 minutes is very long 21:45 * Calinou is getting slightly less patient since they've switched to a SSD 21:45 StarBlessed I have a Quad Opteron dual core with 32Gb RAM on a 1GB connection 21:45 sokomine :-) 21:45 Calinou StarBlessed: the whole machine? or is it just a VPS? 21:46 Calinou that thing alone costs 3000€+ easily, no? 21:46 StarBlessed The WHOLE machine is mine. 21:46 Calinou O_o nice 21:46 Calinou I wonder how well do 4 dual core opterons vs a 2600K :p 21:46 StarBlessed I was trying to host a game, but it just took so long to login, I thought I was doing something wrong ;) 21:47 StarBlessed For pure number crunching? Or gaming? 21:48 Calinou in multithread 21:49 StarBlessed I used to run a Dual Opteron gaming rig. This was before the i3/i5/i7 era. I swear, while everyone else was on P4-HT, I was pounding up to 7x the frame rate. A lot of games back then were CPU dependent. 21:49 Calinou and now AMD sucks at gaming, if you want to maximize the FPS :P 21:50 harrison 8 cores looking at the same memory? 21:51 harrison i have an i7 with 4 physical, 8 with hyperthreading 21:51 StarBlessed Ahem... Im still running a 6870, thats 3 years old... I can still run most games Hi-def, maxed out settings. Thats enough for me these days. 21:51 Kacey my AMD vision e1 is great for minetest 21:51 harrison but i doubt that the ht helps my code at all 21:51 Calinou harrison: same, a 2600K is quad core with HT 21:51 Calinou Kacey: lol, that's shit 21:51 Calinou E1 is the shittiest thing by AMD :3 21:51 StarBlessed ht in practice gave about a 15-20% boost, though they claimed up to 80% 21:51 Calinou StarBlessed: I have a 570, equivalent to a 6970 21:52 harrison so i'd like to benchmark one of the new amd cpus with 8 physical cores 21:52 Calinou it still runs stuntrally on "very high" (effects off) and 4× AA well (60 FPS) 21:52 Kacey Calinou, it still works fine 21:52 harrison using my raytracer 21:52 Calinou StarBlessed: intel marketing is as trustable as Jordach 21:52 Calinou :p 21:52 Calinou Kacey: TIL 20 FPS is fine 21:52 Kacey i get 60 FPS 21:52 Calinou with a blank map? 21:53 Calinou now put the view distance to 64 or higher and let's see 21:53 Calinou with shaders of course 21:53 Kacey even on VanessaE's server 21:53 StarBlessed Calinou: A 570 is no comparison. The pipes are just too few. While the benchmarks are similar, the GPU in the ATi is superior. A prime example would be to go bitcoin mining. My 6870, can output almost 4 times that of a 670. 21:53 VanessaE I can barely sustain 30-40 fps (less near the spawn) on my server, and that's with default textures and a view range of 60. 21:53 VanessaE why is it that everyone gets such good speeds compared to me? 21:53 Calinou StarBlessed: kepler sucks at computing, this is a fact 21:54 Calinou fermi rocks at computing actually 21:54 StarBlessed that doesnt make it better. 21:54 Calinou I said 570 and not 670 21:54 StarBlessed just superior technology. 21:54 Calinou and AMD openCL = buggy :p 21:54 StarBlessed Yes, I know, I said 670 ;) 21:54 Calinou but on kepler, AMD's GPUs are definitely "better" 21:54 Calinou the 670 is a middle end card technically 21:54 Kacey heh 64x tp on VanessaE's server with full viewing range enabled still gets 60 21:55 Calinou at least the 770 fixed this by actually being an high end card, more or less, but it also more expensive 21:55 StarBlessed Well, a 570 tops out at about 140 Mega Hashes. 21:55 Calinou StarBlessed: when I compare cards, I compare game benchmarks 21:55 Calinou that's what most people including me use graphic cards for 21:55 StarBlessed Yeah. Its all about purpose :) 21:56 StarBlessed My 6870 tops out at about 375 MH 21:56 Calinou nvidia neuteurs their geforce cards for double precision, fact too 21:56 Calinou except the titan 21:56 * Calinou invented a new word 21:57 StarBlessed lol @ Calinou 21:57 StarBlessed Hey VanessaE : Where are you hosting out of? 21:58 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4057 21:58 Calinou StarBlessed: is that what you asked? :P 21:58 VanessaE my home computer :) 21:59 VanessaE North Carolina, US 21:59 VanessaE updated gloopblocks: now all cobble, alternative cobble, and stone brick blocks/stairs/slabs/etc. eventually become mossy in the presence of water. 21:59 StarBlessed Thanks Calinou, not quite. But she just answered it ;) Thanks. 22:00 Calinou it's mentioned at the top, StarBlessed 22:00 Calinou so why "not quite" :P 22:00 Calinou oh, happy saturday everyone 22:00 VanessaE he probably wanted to know my geographical location, which isn't mentioned. 22:00 * Calinou stops trolling on random hardware sites 22:00 Calinou it's no longer friday :( 22:01 Calinou "From: Waynesville, NC" 22:01 StarBlessed She is indeed, but she doesnt say that the server is hosted out of her home :P 22:01 VanessaE well I guess one can make the connection :-) 22:02 StarBlessed Cheeky Calinou 22:02 VanessaE cheeky devil, right enough. 22:02 StarBlessed I have a free IP address and some spare server space... Anyone wanna setup a game server? ;) 22:03 * Calinou google translates "cheeky" 22:03 VanessaE smartass :) 22:03 Calinou :p 22:03 BrandonReese Does anybody know why I get this error on my server? 22:03 BrandonReese # Server: WARNING: Map saving is disabled. 22:03 StarBlessed Maybe the map saving is disabled. *grin* 22:03 StarBlessed Sorry. 22:03 StarBlessed Ill shut up. 22:03 BrandonReese Well... yes but why? 22:04 StarBlessed I was being a smart ass. 22:04 BrandonReese I probably would have done the same thing StarBlessed 22:04 StarBlessed :D 22:05 StarBlessed http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+WARNING%3A+Map+saving+is+disabled 22:05 Calinou BrandonReese: make sure you have write access to the directory where the world is saved 22:05 Calinou have to go now, night 22:05 StarBlessed See ya Calinou 22:06 BrandonReese I have write access, I haven't changed anything there 22:07 StarBlessed 777? 22:07 StarBlessed chmod -R 777 /game/dir/ 22:07 StarBlessed or even 755 22:08 BrandonReese It was 755, I 777'd it and still no go 22:08 StarBlessed hmmm... what about ownership 22:08 VanessaE 755 would have been enough 22:09 StarBlessed agreed. 22:09 VanessaE (that's rwx/r-x/r-x) 22:09 Kacey A brunette and a blond were walking and the brunette says look a dead bird the blond looks up and says where 22:09 BrandonReese I started the server as root and still get the error so it's not a permission problem 22:10 StarBlessed Does the path exist? 22:11 BrandonReese yes 22:11 StarBlessed BRB, Gettin coffee. 22:11 BrandonReese FIXED: map_meta.txt was empty, but it didn't give me an error about map_meta.txt 22:16 sfan5 good night 22:29 PilzAdam y u stop working ProxTube 22:33 StarBlessed I cant find a default copy of the server conf. Can someone please point it out to me? Or is it in the github 22:33 StarBlessed Got it. 22:33 PilzAdam you mean this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example 22:33 StarBlessed LOL! Sorry ;) 22:33 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp 22:34 PilzAdam this is more accurate but less comments 22:34 amboss got a dedicated server i have no intention of actually using 22:34 amboss might set up a MT server 22:34 amboss hosted in belgium 22:46 StarBlessed LOL! Might pay to upgrade my client... ;) 23:00 NakedFury http://www.angry-pixel.net/images/slides/slide5.png 23:00 NakedFury a bench with 3d materials in it 23:00 NakedFury not in minetest 23:00 NakedFury http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1550010-152sspsmp-project-bench-v175forge5000-downloads/ 23:00 NakedFury and that as a mod for minecraft 23:00 NakedFury that looks awesome 23:05 OldCoder NOTICE: Shutting down my worlds for backup 23:07 StarBlessed Ok, so using the remote_media directive in the conf file, if the http://www.blah is not available, does it fall back to udp? 23:07 PilzAdam yes 23:07 PilzAdam it uses UDP for everything that is not found on the remote server 23:09 StarBlessed Gotcha. So my builtin/ client/ fonts/ games/ textures/ folders are all in /usr/share/minetest directory. If I soft link the /usr/share/minetest folder into my web server, would that be ehough? 23:09 StarBlessed enough 23:09 PilzAdam no 23:09 StarBlessed Ok, what do I need to link exactly? 23:09 PilzAdam the media should be directly where you point remote_media to 23:10 StarBlessed Hmmm... So it wont allow for downloading mods and content? 23:10 StarBlessed Like recursively 23:10 PilzAdam only the media goes there, not the mods code 23:11 StarBlessed Ok. Gotcha. 23:11 StarBlessed Ill get this damn it. LOL 23:48 StarBlessed Ok, so another question... I have about a 200ms ping, when breaking a block in game, it can take up to 5 seconds for that block to show in my inventory. Is that normal? 23:57 NakedFury no 23:57 NakedFury are you playing online? 23:59 StarBlessed Yeah, on my server. Im testing out the remote_media directive.