Time  Nick            Message
00:00 Uberi           correct, GroundRaiser, to their own mod names
00:00 codedevil       Uberi: I died,  server asked me to respawn, I said no thanks by pressing Escape and now I can do anything
00:00 kaeza           GroundRaiser, the others are modpacks, so it does not really matter
00:00 Uberi           what
00:00 khonkhortisan   Evading death is pretty common in minetest
00:00 GroundRaiser    oh okay
00:00 GroundRaiser    so now what
00:00 Uberi           codedevil: oh I meant the water/lava tower
00:00 Uberi           VanessaE_: maybe a lavacooling issue?
00:00 VanessaE_       Uberi: he created a lava fountain and a water fountain, and just kept adding more water and lava nodes around them.  The liquids hit a not-yet-generated block and spread out a ways, creating a fairly wide fountain
00:00 codedevil       I placed some blocks on top od 300 block high pole
00:01 VanessaE_       I don't use default lava cooling, I use my own code, but this was an issue before lavacooling was added.
00:01 codedevil       and that's how I roll
00:01 Uberi           hmm
00:01 Uberi           I have no idea :P
00:01 GroundRaiser    :( there are still no mods in my configure thing :/
00:01 sokomine        hi
00:01 Uberi           GroundRaiser: where's your minetest exe?
00:01 Uberi           (as a full path)
00:02 GroundRaiser    what do you mean
00:02 Uberi           what's the path of minetest.exe that you're running?
00:02 GroundRaiser    minetest.exe is in bin
00:02 kaeza           GroundRaiser, are you using minetest_game or minimal?
00:03 GroundRaiser    what do you mean
00:03 Uberi           GroundRaiser: but where is bin?
00:03 GroundRaiser    bin is at the top
00:03 Uberi           where is the top? the folder where mods is in?
00:03 kaeza           when you created a new world, did you select 'minetest' or 'minimal'?
00:04 GroundRaiser    ya bin is in the main folder
00:04 Uberi           a path is the string describing the folder and its parent and its parent's parent and so on
00:04 Uberi           OK, try deleting minetest.conf and try again
00:04 codedevil       VanessaE_: I don't think it's working
00:04 Uberi           if the worldpath is wrong it might be using the wrong folder
00:04 GroundRaiser    i made it a build and why do I need to delete it again?
00:04 kaeza           Uberi, the 'mods_here.txt' file is in the correct place
00:04 GroundRaiser    I just deleted it... and redownloaded it... I didnt move anything around
00:04 Uberi           kaeza: minetest.conf has a setting for world path
00:05 Uberi           GroundRaiser: oh OK
00:05 Uberi           hmm
00:05 Uberi           did you create a new world?
00:05 GroundRaiser    I made one [build]
00:06 kaeza           ah!
00:06 kaeza           that is the problem
00:06 kaeza           you need to put the stuff in mods/build/
00:06 GroundRaiser    so do i need to put all of the mods in each of the things?
00:06 Uberi           alternatively, make a world [minetest]
00:06 Uberi           GroundRaiser: yes, for 0.4.6
00:07 GroundRaiser    Oh okay
00:07 Uberi           0.4.7 and dev builds have a much better system
00:07 VanessaE_       codedevil: I'm trying to erase the offending towers via worldedit now.
00:07 Uberi           VanessaE_: don't erase! save one as a test case!
00:07 GroundRaiser    I pressed configure and it came up wth   Warning: Some mods are not configured yet
00:07 VanessaE_       Uberi: impossible.  it's lagging the server so bad I can't even begin to save it.
00:07 Uberi           these poor towers are nearly extinct! adopt a tower today!
00:08 Uberi           well can you describe what it looks like?
00:09 codedevil       VanessaE_: my toooweeer
00:09 kaeza           GroundRaiser, good
00:09 VanessaE_       it's just big lava and water fountains.
00:09 GroundRaiser    good?
00:09 kaeza           yes
00:09 * sokomine      looks suspiciously at a tower
00:10 kaeza           it measn that it has found the mods
00:10 sokomine        are they larger than 1x1?
00:10 kaeza           hi sokomine
00:10 GroundRaiser    it looks like it is working now
00:10 Uberi           woooo \o/
00:11 VanessaE_       and...the server crashed again
00:11 GroundRaiser    brb
00:11 sokomine        i've finally assembled my new computer (not much faster than the old one but less power consumption and more quiet and more interfaces). still a bit occupied with configuring it and getting everything transmitted
00:11 Uberi           lovely
00:11 Kacey           we should add  support for lolcode modding...
00:11 Exio            sokomine: what pc? :P
00:11 VanessaE_       http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006042013%20-%2008:11:11%20PM.png
00:11 VanessaE_       Uberi:  ^^^^^
00:12 kaeza           Kacey, lol, code
00:12 codedevil       trolo
00:12 sokomine        only a celeron but with 8gb
00:12 Exio            Kacey: code them next to the ruby modding
00:12 Uberi           :O
00:12 Exio            sokomine: ah, nice
00:12 codedevil       VanessaE_: nice font on the UI :o
00:12 kaeza           codedevil, 'trolo' is a way of saying 'gay' in these parts :P
00:12 Uberi           those be some crazy serifs
00:12 Exio            what the fuck is that VanessaE_
00:12 sokomine        trouble is, i used it to install the newest debian version from scratch. that happens so seldom that i usually tend to forget all the important configuration parameters. right now the text console is annoying me because the font is too small
00:13 Uberi           VanessaE_: I think that's just a lot of flowing liquid causing the lag, not any one bug in particular
00:13 sokomine        hope to get it running soon so that i can have a look how well it fares with mt :-)
00:13 Uberi           sokomine: good luck!
00:13 VanessaE_       Uberi: and that is, by definition, a bug.
00:13 sokomine        thanks :-)
00:13 VanessaE_       this is a shit-hot-fast machine, something simple like this should NOT cause the server to lag out
00:13 kaeza           VanessaE_, that happened to me on another server
00:14 VanessaE_       fuck it, I'm disabling the placement of lava nodes.
00:14 kaeza           the thing is lava flowing, water flowing, lava cooling, etc
00:14 codedevil       :<
00:14 khonkhortisan   What about technic's constructors?
00:14 kaeza           seems like a bad interaction between those
00:15 Uberi           khonkhortisan: what about them? :)
00:15 sokomine        oh, there will always be something that will cause lag even if it shouldn't on such a machine
00:15 khonkhortisan   they might be able to place lava
00:15 sokomine        if in doubt do run a few rollback_checks (that is, if you feel your machine is too fast :-))
00:15 khonkhortisan   depending on how it's disabled
00:16 GroundRaiser    is there a way to make this game run quicker?
00:16 VanessaE_       khonkhortisan: not if I comment out the node defs.
00:16 codedevil       question, how do you remove water source blocks actually?
00:16 khonkhortisan   a bucket
00:16 Uberi           codedevil: in survival? place a block in them
00:16 khonkhortisan   you pour water into water, and have less water
00:17 codedevil       I too the liberty of haxing the spawn :P
00:18 codedevil       lol look at spawn VanessaE_
00:18 VanessaE_       after I clean up your mess.
00:18 VanessaE_       had to reboot the server with lava and water nodes commented out (=unknown block) so I could edit them out.
00:18 sokomine        groundraiser: what hardware do you have?
00:19 GroundRaiser    a compaq laptop that runs windows 7
00:19 Uberi           oh snap it's 8pm already?
00:20 sokomine        with a laptop you can't do much i'm afraid. common suspects are accdiently activated shaders on hardware that can't handle it, too many/complex mods for the hardware, ...
00:20 * codedevil     successfully trolled VanessaE_'s server
00:20 GroundRaiser    oh... okay
00:21 * sokomine      puts codedevil into a prison somewhere for experiments on him
00:21 VanessaE_       you fucked up my server, codedevil.
00:21 codedevil       ;)
00:21 Exio            "fucked up my server"
00:22 Exio            ";)"
00:22 Exio            a common idiot
00:23 MinerofLands    lol VanessaE_
00:23 codedevil       seriously this lava code needs lots of fixes :)
00:23 MinerofLands    use lavamod im telling you it works haha
00:24 codedevil       spawn protection code is useless too
00:24 MinerofLands    lavamod isnt protection code lol
00:24 MinerofLands    it just doesnt let lava to be placed over y=0
00:24 codedevil       MinerofLands: there is 2nd bug, protection of zone around 0,0,0 is not really working
00:24 VanessaE_       MinerofLands: wouldn't help on my server when most of the usable land is way above sea level
00:25 MinerofLands    codedevil i dont even know who you are but i like you :D
00:25 MinerofLands    Vanessa it was just a suggestion you dont have to do it
00:26 MinerofLands    and i said above 0 on the y axis
00:26 MinerofLands    so no one can place lava above sea level
00:27 codedevil       MinerofLands: neat
00:27 codedevil       I'm selling 50 Unknown Blocks on VanessaE's server
00:27 MinerofLands    so you lava spammed her server and she didnt revoke your interact
00:27 MinerofLands    ?
00:27 MinerofLands    nice going vanessa
00:27 MinerofLands    LOL
00:27 codedevil       I built on my land
00:28 VanessaE_       just did.
00:28 codedevil       buu
00:28 GroundRaiser    hey i will be on later
00:28 codedevil       lame :P
00:28 khonkhortisan   Where do I get default_inventory_chest.png?
00:28 codedevil       VanessaE_: that is super lame, not my fault your server was buggy :)
00:29 VanessaE_       codedevil: my server is as "buggy" as any other in this instance.
00:29 codedevil       yeah so that's called de-bugging
00:29 codedevil       and I bet it was most fun or at least action server had this month
00:29 MinerofLands    Vanessa have you fixed that "bug" with rollback? that doesnt remove server generated nodes? i.e saplings to trees?
00:29 codedevil       MinerofLands: log in and look around spawn :P
00:30 VanessaE_       I disabled rollback entirely.
00:30 MinerofLands    i dont wanna...me and vanessa arent "cool" with eachother lol
00:30 MinerofLands    why do that?
00:30 codedevil       I said log in
00:30 codedevil       not make love with her
00:30 Exio            not log in and be an asshole
00:30 MinerofLands    ohh hi Exio
00:31 LandMineMT      still i dont wanna
00:31 codedevil       I think it's lame VanessaE_ disabled my edit
00:31 sokomine        codedevil: unlikely. i've seen some excellent builds recently on vanessas server. those are more intresting than other action
00:31 codedevil       and lava
00:31 LandMineMT      with rollback disabled everyone is gonna grief
00:31 VanessaE_       it's even more lame that you griefed my server.
00:32 codedevil       nigger please
00:32 codedevil       you already fixed it :)
00:32 VanessaE_       I'm still trying to fix it.
00:32 codedevil       well the sea of UnknownBlock looks really wrong
00:32 Exio            this shows how nice you are VanessaE_
00:32 LandMineMT      yup
00:32 VanessaE_       I had to un-define the water and lava nodes in default/nodes.lua just so I could edit them out and I'm still working on it.
00:32 Exio            i would have already kickbanned codedevil
00:32 LandMineMT      well thats not nesesary
00:32 codedevil       I would give myself an award
00:32 LandMineMT      just remove his interact
00:33 codedevil       yeah she did, and that's lame
00:33 LandMineMT      codedevil i was "proving" bugs on servers since before you even found out the game existed lol
00:33 LandMineMT      i dont have an award yet
00:33 codedevil       we should start a fund
00:33 codedevil       VanessaE_: lol
00:34 codedevil       shouldn't you just undefine the /source/ blocks?
00:34 LandMineMT      no...sometimes lava_flowing glitches and doesnt go away
00:34 codedevil       you have a large seas of undefined blocks now
00:35 VanessaE_       not anymore.
00:35 LandMineMT      lol nice
00:35 codedevil       what is?
00:35 LandMineMT      codedevil you wanna know another way of getting over rollback?
00:35 VanessaE_       I already re-enabled them.
00:36 codedevil       LandMineMT: yea?
00:36 LandMineMT      unbuild the place and then plant a bunch of saplings
00:36 codedevil       hm
00:36 LandMineMT      when trees grow they cant be rolled back
00:36 codedevil       ?
00:36 codedevil       suggar cane too?
00:36 LandMineMT      anything that is server generated
00:36 LandMineMT      i.e not placed by you
00:37 Exio            i already think what both are doing is enough for a quiet, at least
00:37 LandMineMT      no exio i am saying it
00:37 LandMineMT      so you or anyone can fix it
00:37 LandMineMT      :D
00:37 Exio            you report it, filing a bug and in #minetest-dev
00:37 Exio            not telling it to a griefer, directly
00:38 LandMineMT      well im a legend so i can do what ever i want
00:38 LandMineMT      if you ever find a 0.3 server or anything before 0.4.5 you can just put a sapling under chest
00:38 LandMineMT      it will grow and delete the chest :D
00:39 LandMineMT      or anything block for that matter
00:39 LandMineMT      cool eh codedevil :D
00:40 codedevil       sounds cool :)
00:53 STHGOM          whoever has the ban priv on redcrab.suret.net port 30031 please get on QUICKLY!!!
00:54 Exio            are codedevil and LM griefing?
00:55 VanessaE_       there,.
00:55 VanessaE_       there.
00:55 VanessaE_       water and lava sources removed from creative inventory, buckets mod deleted.
00:56 STHGOM          destruidor
00:56 STHGOM          on redcrabs 0.3.1 server
00:57 sokomine        hmm. 1680er resolution over a cheap vga cable that's connected to a second cheap cable does not look particulary well...but at least it has a more workable resolution now
00:57 Exio            1920x1080 with a VGA cable; here too
00:57 Exio            but because i'm being lazy on searching the other dvi-e or w/e it is called wire
00:57 Exio            :D
00:58 sokomine        exio: the extra added prolonging cable inbetween adds more to the decrease of sharpness :-) but that's only a temporary solution anyway
00:58 codedevil       VanessaE_: neat now you could reenable me
00:58 codedevil       assuming you are at all believing in own admin skills
00:58 codedevil       :)
01:00 sokomine        hi bas
01:01 STHGOM          no one here has ban or grant priv on redcrabs 0.3.1 sever?!?!?
01:01 VanessaE_       nope.
01:02 STHGOM          D:
01:03 STHGOM          where can i find redcrab?
01:06 VanessaE_       codedevil: forget it.
01:07 codedevil       coward? :P
01:07 VanessaE_       no, simply not being stupid.
01:07 PilzAdam        bye
01:12 AWTom           hi
01:13 STHGOM          hi
01:20 kaeza           https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_300510009.jpg :D
01:22 sokomine        oh, hm: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindX11.cmake:420 (MESSAGE): Could not find X11     i'm pretty sure there's something akin to x running on the machine...don't think debian switched to something lese?
01:25 Exio            well
01:25 Exio            i need tests
01:25 Exio            testers*
01:25 Exio            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/754
01:25 Exio            anyone? :D
01:26 VanessaE_       does this code allow X11 compose to work properly?
01:26 Exio            no idea if it does
01:26 VanessaE_       better fix it if it doesn't.
01:27 Exio            i just "now" can type a ñ now in the terminal
01:27 Exio            but can't write "á"
01:27 Exio            well, can't with the old console
01:27 Exio            now the utf8 "behavior" seems to be the same :P
01:27 VanessaE_       X11 compose is where you hit a specially-defined key (for me, 'menu'), and then type two other chars to get the UTF one.
01:27 VanessaE_       Compose T M --> â„¢
01:28 VanessaE_       Compose O R -> ®
01:28 VanessaE_       etc.
01:28 sokomine        those chars are evil in irc. don't use them!
01:28 Exio            i know, but i don't knowñ didn't try
01:28 Exio            damn keymap
01:28 Exio            aww
01:28 Exio            my map is full of "stone_flowing" nodes :(
01:28 sokomine        they just cause needless trouble. ae oe ue ss are perfectly good replacements for the german umlaute. i'm sure other languages have similar replacement rules
01:29 Kacey           stone_flowing?!
01:29 Exio            yes, don't ask how i got them
01:29 VanessaE_       sokomine: so fix your UTF-8 support so that those chars work for you :)
01:29 Exio            sokomine: can you try to write "those" in console; with and without the pull request_
01:29 Exio            s/_/?/
01:30 Exio            btw, i just see you can type the ñ without truetype support "now"
01:30 VanessaE_       as it stands now, the compose key is ignored, so compose t m just writes plain old "tm"
01:31 Exio            well, do you have freetype enabled?
01:32 Exio            just for trying
01:33 VanessaE_       hell no
01:33 VanessaE_       freetype (in minetest) is evil.
01:33 Exio            i don't know, i just enabled it for testing what thexyz reported :P
01:34 Exio            anyway; with the "pull" i did it worked for me without freetype
01:36 sokomine        exio: i havn't tried. it is usally much safer not to use special chars. right now i'm working on getting all packages together on the new machine to compile mt. if i'm done i'll try
01:37 Exio            i use the us keymap most of time
01:37 Exio            it is easy-to use for casual stuff and coding; not school stuff anyway :P
01:40 Exio            thanks btw, it works for me
01:40 STHGOM          cya
01:40 Exio            but i need people to know if it is just me or it really works ;P
01:46 Exio            [22:27:00] <Exio> i just "now" can type a ñ now in the terminal < i meant console, sorry :P
01:49 sokomine        :-)
01:51 sokomine        ok...at least it's finally compiling after i've collected all necessary development files on the new target system
01:52 sokomine        wonder how well it will run
01:52 khonkhortisan   downloaded the patch, git am, make, linking,
01:52 Exio            :D
01:52 Exio            khonkhortisan: try it?
01:52 khonkhortisan   still linking...
01:52 khonkhortisan   trying...
01:52 * Exio          will bother everyone until someone can confirm it working
01:52 Exio            thanks
01:52 khonkhortisan   So I just have to get it to show up in the F10 menu?
01:53 Exio            in the f10 screen, try to write things like ñ
01:53 khonkhortisan   compose+~+n doesn't work in the chat or the console
01:53 VanessaE_       nope.
01:53 khonkhortisan   it prints ~ before I finish
01:53 khonkhortisan   so I end up with ~n instead of ñ
01:54 Exio            that happens to me with the accent here; but i don't know how to fix it
01:54 VanessaE_       I already tried that anyway
01:54 khonkhortisan   and pressing 4 (which is 3 on my layout) acts as an enter key
01:54 Exio            what the patch does is "copy" the behavior of the "chat" to the console
01:54 VanessaE_       Exio: something's causing irrlicht or minetest to ignore or trap the compose key
01:54 khonkhortisan   oh
01:54 khonkhortisan   then chat should be improved too
01:54 Exio            khonkhortisan: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751
01:54 Exio            or replaced
01:56 Exio            i actuall have a ñ key in my keyboard; (";" with the us keymap)
01:58 khonkhortisan   oh maybe I need freetype
01:58 Exio            i don't think so
01:59 khonkhortisan   http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0f63867
02:00 Exio            wtf?
02:00 khonkhortisan   not related
02:05 khonkhortisan   firefox+eclipse+xchat+urxvt*13+make-j3 was too much
02:05 Exio            aw
02:06 VanessaE_       khonkhortisan: eek
02:07 khonkhortisan   wow the font change is very noticable
02:09 Exio            can anyone with irrlicht 1.7.x try that patch?
02:09 ShadowNinja     VanessaE_: Drop the underscore?
02:09 kahrl           Exio: about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/755, it happens not only with formspecs
02:10 kahrl           also easily reproducible with the respawn screen
02:10 Exio            kahrl: really?
02:10 Exio            damn :P
02:10 kahrl           maybe the console should somehow be made into a menu and be registered in the main menu manager
02:11 kahrl           that would take care of most of the problems
02:11 VanessaE        I managed to get the console stuck open (but without being focused) just earlier.  I opened it, typed something but didn't hit enter, and then Alt-tabbed over to another window.
02:11 VanessaE        had to restart the client to recover.
02:12 Exio            did you try f10 and esc some times? :P
02:12 VanessaE        Esc, yes.  Didn't think to hit F10
02:12 khonkhortisan   escape got me out
02:13 kahrl           Exio: perhaps simply put an if(console open and not focused) gui_chat_console->closeConsole(); in the main loop
02:13 khonkhortisan   blinky http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=98575cc
02:14 VanessaE        whoa
02:14 khonkhortisan   I told it 1000ms but it didn't listen
02:14 khonkhortisan   blue is freetype, green not
02:17 sokomine        *complain* my mt-cache-file contains over 9000 files. that's a bit much. can't it use a database?
02:19 VanessaE        over 9000?
02:19 VanessaE        (eh, forget it.  ain't funny anymore :) )
02:20 Exio            kahrl: thinked about it; but as it was only for formspecs i didn't think "more" :P
02:20 kaeza           s/thinked/thought/
02:20 kaeza           :D
02:20 Exio            that word is too hard to spell
02:21 Exio            so i avoid it :D
02:21 kaeza           english and it's irregular verbs
02:22 Exio            ha, works!
02:25 khonkhortisan   VanessaE and her only: (the rest of you already had your chance to click it :P) http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=10e0e79
02:25 VanessaE        oh yeah I saw that
02:25 VanessaE        wasn't sure what to make of it
02:26 khonkhortisan   it's a potential solution to wieldview
02:26 Exio            kahrl: https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779dhttps://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779dhttps://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779d
02:26 Exio            oops
02:26 Exio            https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779d
02:26 Exio            i'm not using my mouse, i don't get used to this
02:27 khonkhortisan   If you were near me and remotely pasted that, that would slow down my processing time to run up behind me and trick me
02:27 VanessaE        khonkhortisan:  ahh
02:27 khonkhortisan   Placing an image in another image scales both of them until it fits correctly
02:28 VanessaE        khonkhortisan: what's the worst case result?
02:28 VanessaE        if it scales both, could it potentially end up with really huge resolutions?
02:28 VanessaE        or do you mean just visual scale?
02:28 khonkhortisan   [map:1/1000,0,1,1:default_dirt.png would be a worst-case scenario
02:29 khonkhortisan   right now it also crashes with a fraction and a 1x1 image
02:30 khonkhortisan   How 'bout I just blame whovever uses the function that way for the giant images?
02:30 VanessaE        heh
02:30 VanessaE        no, set some reasonable limit
02:30 khonkhortisan   what would it do at the limit?
02:30 khonkhortisan   no image at all?
02:30 VanessaE        print a warning and just resize both/all images to the limit
02:30 VanessaE        or a dummy image or something is equally good
02:31 VanessaE        as long as an error is printed,
02:34 Exio            kahrl: is that commit "ok"?
02:36 Exio            i'm going to sleep
02:37 Exio            good night
02:38 kahrl           Exio: looks good
02:38 Exio            :P
02:38 Exio            there is a pull request so other people can try it
02:39 kahrl           you could make isOpen const for symmetry with isOpenInhibited
02:39 Exio            i had to open a new one because i wasn't able to open the old one (closed because didn't know it would be "that easy" to fix)
02:39 Exio            kk
02:41 Exio            https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/cde2e1c6f716127b6a5c17de74d35b42d839fbf3
02:41 Exio            kahrl: now?
02:49 khonkhortisan   With freetype I see [buil d] image arrows [surv i\]
03:16 kahrl           Exio: good
03:24 kaeza           this would be a nice idea: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93380#p93380
03:24 kaeza           +as a rule for Mod Releases
03:30 ShadowNinja     /me disagrees
03:30 * ShadowNinja   disagrees
03:30 ShadowNinja     Grr.
03:32 ShadowNinja     You could just link to the tarball for a commit, but I don't think it should be required.
03:32 VanessaE        I wouldn't be able to do that, since I usually track git and often use new features kinda early.
03:32 Menche          having trouble cross-compiling
03:32 ShadowNinja     Also, I think you answered the wrong question kaeza.
03:32 Menche          cmake insists that it needs "windres.exe"
03:32 khonkhortisan   cross-compiling is a big hurdle
03:33 VanessaE        talk to PilzAdam about that
03:33 VanessaE        he crosscompiles for Windows, via linux
03:33 ShadowNinja     Menche: You need mingw -- I think...
03:33 Menche          i have mingw
03:33 kaeza           Menche, use CMAKE_RC_COMPILER to set it to anything else
03:34 ShadowNinja     I remember having a similar issue.
03:34 Menche          kaeza, that variable is set to one of the mingw programs that i have, not windres.exe
03:34 khonkhortisan   Hahahaha! I can now say I fixed unified_skins (3d_armor,more_armor,wieldview) to work with skins/items that have *takes a breath* images with different resolutions!
03:34 Menche          it appears to be zlib that does that
03:35 kaeza           wat
03:35 Menche          "windres.exe" is in the CMakeLists file for zlib
03:36 kaeza           well, then change it
03:36 kaeza           also, why not using windres?
03:36 kaeza           (out of curiosity)
03:37 Menche          what does windres do?
03:37 kaeza           umm... compiling resources?
03:37 Menche          i have i486-mingw32-windres
03:37 kaeza           ah
03:37 Menche          but it wants it called windres.exe
03:38 ShadowNinja     Menche: Adds icons and such AFAIK.
03:38 khonkhortisan   symlink?
03:38 kaeza           Menche, symlinking doesn't work?
03:38 kaeza           bah
03:38 khonkhortisan   :)
03:38 ShadowNinja     I remember fixing it, and I think I installed a package for it.
03:39 Menche          ok, symlinked it, now it says "windres.exe: preprocessing failed."
03:39 ShadowNinja     A MinGW package.
03:39 Menche          "fatal error: windows.h: No such file or directory"
03:39 Menche          apparently i need windows.h
03:39 kaeza           yes
03:39 kaeza           you need the WinAPI package
03:40 Menche          i have that, maybe i have to tell it where to look for the header file
03:40 Menche          ah, found it
03:40 Menche          it's not in the usual include path
03:40 Menche          how to tell cmake to look in another dir for headers?
03:43 kaeza           apparently, it's CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH
03:44 kaeza           hmm nope
03:45 Menche          still same error
03:47 khonkhortisan   http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=765e8c6 This was not possible with ^[combine
03:47 khonkhortisan   The skin is twice the resolution of the items
03:52 diemartin       Menche, you could try asking in #cmaje
03:52 diemartin       #cmake *
04:56 diemartin       interesting http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93383#p93383
05:04 khonkhortisan   Obvious first question: Do the rotors spin?
05:04 diemartin       dunno
05:04 diemartin       I'm testing now
05:04 khonkhortisan   I like the blue dividers
05:05 diemartin       yes they do
05:06 diemartin       inb4 BF3test
05:21 diemartin       https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_314661239.jpg
05:22 * diemartin     plays "Ride of the Valkyries" in the background
05:54 diemartin       bits of sand are generating out of nowhere in spawn
05:54 diemartin       in the middle of the air
05:55 VanessaE        that's nothing
05:55 VanessaE        you know that little cage next to the spawn on my server?
05:55 diemartin       yes
05:55 VanessaE        the one that usually has two sheep in it
05:55 VanessaE        I found it CHOCK FULL of sheep just a bit ago
05:56 VanessaE        musta been 20 or 30 of them packed in there.
05:56 diemartin       the thing is... this sand is no entity
05:56 diemartin       they are nodes
05:56 VanessaE        weird
05:57 diemartin       could be some mapgen error?
05:57 diemartin       https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_317135695.jpg
05:57 VanessaE        weird
05:57 VanessaE        tno idea at all what would do that
05:57 VanessaE        -t
05:58 diemartin       did you just press 't' to chat?
05:58 diemartin       too much minetest? :|
05:58 ShadowNinja     Looks like mapgen, show it to hmmmm.
05:59 diemartin       I clear them every time I see them
05:59 diemartin       yet every day, new stuff is generated
05:59 VanessaE        heh
06:00 ShadowNinja     Write a auto-remove mod. ;-)
06:01 ShadowNinja     Night.
06:01 diemartin       night
06:01 diemartin       hmm
06:01 diemartin       could be rollback?
06:06 VanessaE        that's possible, if you're using it a lot
06:29 VanessaE        bbl, bedtime.
09:47 diemartin       still more netsplits?
09:47 diemartin       hi Calinou
09:47 diemartin       blah
09:52 Calinou         hi
09:52 Calinou         "diemartin"?
09:53 kaeza           yep
09:54 kaeza           Diego Martínez
09:55 kaeza           also because everyone on #-dev was pinging me instead of kahrl
09:56 Calinou         name yourself `kaeza then :P
10:05 kaeza           does minetestserver exit with a non-zero status code if there's an error?
10:07 kaeza           hmm seems like it
10:07 Calinou         it does
10:58 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:24 deasanta        hi pilzadam
12:16 nyuszika7h      hi, is it possible to cross-compile Minetest for i686 on amd64?
12:19 VanessaE        good morning all
12:20 kaeza           mornings V
12:20 kaeza           nyuszika7h, should be
12:21 nyuszika7h      how would I do that?
12:21 kaeza           you need GCC configured as host=amd64 and target=i686
12:22 kaeza           (or something like that)
12:22 kaeza           and use the CMAKE_*__CROSSCOMPILE vars
12:23 kaeza           (too lazy to google that right now)
12:23 kaeza           hi Aqua
12:23 Guest61290      Hi
12:23 Guest61290      Can i ask you a question
12:24 kaeza           of course
12:25 Aqua____        I got the latest 0.4.6 windows build from PilzAdam but now I can't seem to jump up blocks now. Is that suppose to happen
12:25 Aqua____        ?
12:25 deasanta        anyone making automated  nightly windows / linux builds of minetest master?
12:25 kaeza           first time I hear of that O.o
12:26 PilzAdam        deasanta, there is a ppa of ubuntu and I do cross compile to windows
12:27 Aqua____        Can you give me a link to 0.4.6?
12:27 deasanta        pilzadam - do you build them yourself or have you automated the process?
12:27 PilzAdam        I have a srcipt for it
12:28 PilzAdam        its based on the one in util/buildbot/builbot.sh
12:28 deasanta        pilzadam - even the cross compile to windows or do you do that manually?
12:28 PilzAdam        yes, its automated cross compile with mingw
12:29 deasanta        do you offer this as a download somewhere for ppl to download?
12:29 PilzAdam        yes
12:29 PilzAdam        http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
12:30 deasanta        and does most functions work if you host with a server later than 4.6 and 4.6 clients connect
12:30 PilzAdam        4.6 doesnt exist
12:32 deasanta        sorry missed an 0 = 0.4.6
12:32 PilzAdam        so, you want to connect with a 0.4.6 stable client to a server that runs the current dev version?
12:35 deasanta        thank you pilzadam
12:35 deasanta        yes - wondering what would happen should that happen
12:35 VanessaE        nothing special really
12:35 VanessaE        if the server uses 6dfacedir a lot, you'll see slabs et.al turned the wrong way
12:35 deasanta        tnx
12:35 VanessaE        and maybe some minor usage glitches here and there, but nothing fatal
12:36 VanessaE        I have 0.4.6-stable users on my git server and they seem to get by okay for the most part.
12:44 VanessaE        oh, PilzAdam ...  major duplication bug in simple mobs' sheep
12:45 VanessaE        you know that cage near the spawn on my server that usually contains two sheep?
12:45 kaeza           VanessaE, I will have to remove the homedecor signs from my server due to that too
12:45 kaeza           the sign text entities duplicate like crazy
12:45 VanessaE        I found it chock full last night, stuffed from floor to ceiling, side to side.  probably 20 or 30 sheep in there.
12:46 VanessaE        kaeza: I don't usually see duplication problems with sign entities except when I try to edit an old sign (often the old entity doesn't disappear)
12:46 kaeza           looking at the signs oat spawns brings my client down to 5FPS (from a normal 40-45)
12:46 kaeza           at*
12:47 VanessaE        you know, I see the same problem here
12:47 VanessaE        I lose a good 15 fps near the spawn, particularly near bulldog's structures, which use a lot of signs
12:47 kaeza           I think it may be too many sign texts
12:48 kaeza           since they are at the exact same position, you can't tell there are more than one
12:48 VanessaE        maybe that's the issue I'm seeing here then?
12:48 VanessaE        is there a way to get a count of the entities in an area?
12:48 kaeza           I noticed punching the sign (to force an update) fixed the problem
12:49 kaeza           a simple mods could do that
12:49 kaeza           -s
12:49 VanessaE        right
12:50 VanessaE        the get_objects_in_area() call or whatever the exact name was
12:52 VanessaE        PilzAdam: also, tamed sheep are still disappearing, and when you tame one, you should lose one wheat per click
12:53 ShiftyCake1     @kaeza, VanessaE and PilzAdam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZIOGhu_vJ0
12:53 kaeza           VanessaE, http://pastebin.com/SMRgbHvJ
12:58 Kacey           doesnt stay long enough to get his question answered?
12:58 VanessaE        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/132
12:59 VanessaE        looks related to that, anyway
13:00 kaeza           maybe
13:01 kaeza           BTW, that bug is still valid
13:01 kaeza           bleh
13:01 kaeza           wrong chan
13:26 KikooPwet       sfan5: Can you help me to build Minetest on windows?
13:29 KikaRz          Hello there.
13:40 PilzAdam        VanessaE, are you sure you  have the latest version of Simple Mobs?
13:40 PilzAdam        ShiftyCake1, seems like a mod modifies the gravity or jumping height
13:41 VanessaE        PilzAdam: yep
13:41 PilzAdam        all the bugs you listed were fixed recently
13:44 VanessaE        I discovered the pen full of sheep just last night, well after the last update/reboot
13:44 VanessaE        ditto for the sheep that keep disappearing
13:44 VanessaE        mind you, the penned sheep I'm talking about were generated via spawnentity
13:44 VanessaE        (to replace ones that got last the first time the disappearing bug hit)
13:44 VanessaE        ok, just spawned and tamed five sheep in the larger pen (the barbed wire behind bulldog's cafe)
13:44 VanessaE        let's see how long they last :)
13:45 VanessaE        holy shit, one of them managed to jump out of a fence that is THREE nodes high!
13:45 * VanessaE      makes it FOUR high.
13:46 KikaRz          Who knows compiling Minetest in Windows?
13:47 PilzAdam        "on" or "for" windows?
13:47 KikaRz          on
13:47 VanessaE        PilzAdam: also, their collision boxes are too small, they keep getting stuck in homedecor corner fences
13:47 KikaRz          I'm on Windows actually
13:47 PilzAdam        VanessaE, the sheep needs to be fed _after_ the last update to simple mobs
13:47 PilzAdam        and if wheat doesnt disappear, then something went wrong
13:47 VanessaE        I'm at git HEAD right now with mobs
13:48 PilzAdam        ChanServ!
13:48 KikaRz          ...
13:48 KikaRz          PilzAdam, you know how?
13:48 VanessaE        wheat doesn't decrement.  Are you checking for the presence of infinite stacks?
13:48 PilzAdam        I know how to compile for windows from Linux
13:49 PilzAdam        VanessaE, are you in creative mode?
13:49 VanessaE        I am, but Unified Inventory doesn't have infinite stacks.
13:49 VanessaE        (this is by design)
13:49 PilzAdam        well, in creative mode there is no item taken from the stack
13:50 VanessaE        ok, all seven of the sheep normally found in the two pends have been replaced and tamed.
13:50 PilzAdam        init.lua line 209 & 215
13:50 KikaRz          Ok, nobody tells me how to.
13:50 PilzAdam        KikaRz, there are several forum topics
13:50 PilzAdam        also tons of unofficial builds
13:50 KikaRz          Really? I can't find any of them
13:50 KikaRz          And I prefer to build my own builds
13:51 KikaRz          Reason: Unofficial are editted.
13:51 KikaRz          *edited
13:51 PilzAdam        well, 5th topic in General Discussion
13:51 KikaRz          Link please.
13:51 PilzAdam        are you fucking kidding me?
13:52 KikaRz          No.
13:52 KikaRz          My browser isn't opening.
13:52 PilzAdam        I am not google
13:52 KikaRz          *openning
13:53 VanessaE        opening*.
13:53 KikaRz          ...
13:54 KikaRz          Why it appears like this: HERE  *Libvorbisfile
13:54 KikaRz          DLL=[url]http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?libvorbisfile[/url]
13:54 KikaRz          INCLUDE=libvorbis/include
13:54 KikaRz          with [url] at back?
13:55 KikaRz          Another question: What I should use? MinGW or Visual Studio?
14:02 VanessaE        you should use linux :P
14:02 VanessaE        fuck windows anyway :)
14:02 PilzAdam        Visual Studio has better results AFAIK
14:02 KikaRz          7.
14:02 KikaRz          I know fuck windows.
14:02 KikaRz          But I preferred Linux... Just don't have cds/dvds
14:03 KikaRz          Pilz, I want something simple and good
14:04 PilzAdam        "Visual Studio 2010 currently makes best results." <- from dev wiki
14:04 harrison_       http://youtu.be/PbVsXlii9OQ
14:04 KikaRz          Cool.
14:07 harrison_       thx
14:07 harrison_       #spasim
14:08 KikaRz          lol
14:22 KikaRz          Is the API different?
14:24 KikaRz          VanessaE?
14:24 VanessaE        hm?
14:26 VanessaE        PilzAdam: as predicted, some of those sheep have disappeared.
14:27 KikaRz          VanessaE: Look Query
14:28 VanessaE        bbl
14:30 VanessaE        PilzAdam: and now there are four sheep in the pen that's supposed to have only two
14:30 VanessaE        the floor therein is iron stone brick, so it's not like they're just spawning there.
14:30 KikaRz          bye
14:30 KikaRz          :(
14:37 VanessaE        bbl
14:53 KikaRz          Mega NETSPLIT
15:02 sfan5           wheres MinetestBot?
15:03 KikaRz          DEAD! :D
15:03 KikaRz          Thank god :)
15:03 ShadowNinja     Wait.
15:03 PilzAdam        MinetestBot!
15:03 MinetestBot     PilzAdam!
15:03 ShadowNinja     :-(
15:03 KikaRz          Oh god... -.-
15:04 KikaRz          !up vanessae.mine.bz
15:04 ShadowNinja     I wanted to test auto-sleep.
15:04 KikaRz          I want to have access to that feature -.-
15:04 sfan5           !unignore KikaRz
15:04 MinetestBot     sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list.
15:04 KikaRz          !up vanessae.mine.bz
15:04 MinetestBot     vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (416ms)
15:04 KikaRz          Thank you.
15:04 sfan5           !tw freenodestaff
15:04 MinetestBot     @iwebsource Could you send this along with more details to support@freenode.net please? (@freenodestaff)
15:06 KikaRz          sfan5, there is any Minetest Mod Tutorial?
15:06 sfan5           !g minetest mod tutorial
15:06 MinetestBot     sfan5: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-modding-tutorial
15:06 sfan5           ^ KikaRz
15:06 KikaRz          thank you.
15:07 KikaRz          Really? ENGLISH  raw text) mtmoddeven.txt webpage) html/englishEN.html
15:07 KikaRz          Oh, I saw how i get into there.
15:08 PilzAdam        KikaRz, there is one in the dev wiki
15:08 PilzAdam        its based on Jeija's AFAIK
15:08 KikaRz          Link for Dev Wiki please.
15:08 KikaRz          it's dev.minetest.net ?
15:08 sfan5           !g minetest mod tutorial site:dev.minetest.net
15:08 MinetestBot     sfan5: http://dev.minetest.net/Intro
15:08 KikaRz          Ok, thanks. You people know how to get a free vps?
15:09 sfan5           !g google
15:09 PilzAdam        sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93425#p93425
15:09 MinetestBot     sfan5: http://www.google.com/
15:09 sfan5           ^ KikaRz
15:09 KikaRz          No results found.
15:09 sfan5           PilzAdam: banned
15:10 KikaRz          Me is now: sad.
15:11 KikaRz          What's the size for the nodes? 32x32? 64x64?
15:11 PilzAdam        KikaRz, seriously, learn how to use the internet; "link pls" is simply annoying, and its selfish to expect other people to give you links
15:12 KikaRz          Pilz, my browser don't opens any new tabs... Has some errors.
15:12 KikaRz          (Firefox.)
15:12 PilzAdam        its not our fault
15:12 KikaRz          So? Not mine either,.
15:12 PilzAdam        why dont you fix your browser then?
15:13 KikaRz          I can't -.-
15:13 PilzAdam        then its your fault
15:13 KikaRz          No it's not.
15:13 PilzAdam        firefox works for everyone else
15:13 KikaRz          You are running Linux.
15:13 KikaRz          I'm running Windows.
15:13 KikaRz          My Windows is 50% Corrupted.
15:13 PilzAdam        Linux is free, if you dont use it then its your, and only your problem
15:13 KikaRz          I wanted to run Linux, but I can't because I don't have any DVD. Linux is free, but DVD's aren't.
15:14 PilzAdam        stop whining and start fixing your PC; and stop annoying other people with your problems
15:14 KikaRz          Well... I have 10 €, i'll try to buy DVDs to record there Linux.
15:14 PilzAdam        sorry, that I have to say it like this
15:14 KikaRz          PilzAdam, That doesn't affect me.
15:15 PilzAdam        you can install Linux without any DVDs or CDs
15:15 KikaRz          No I can't.
15:15 PilzAdam        !g wubi
15:15 MinetestBot     PilzAdam: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
15:15 KikaRz          If I were possible to, how I was going to do that???
15:15 KikaRz          That's CORRUPTED
15:16 KikaRz          I've tried 19,5 times.
15:26 KikaRz          bbl, see ya. (PilzAdam: I'm installing Xubuntu with WUBI, if it don't works, you are fucked up '-' )
15:33 sokomine        hi
15:49 markveidemanis  Hi
15:50 sfan5           MinetestBot!
15:51 sfan5           MinetestBot!
15:52 MinetestBot     sfan5!
15:52 MinetestBot     sfan5!
15:53 sfan5           MinetestBot: quit
15:54 sfan5           MinetestBot!
15:54 MinetestBot     sfan5!
15:54 ShadowNinja     sfan5: ShadowBot quit apparently(I blame freenode ;-)) and I can't give it ops.
15:54 sfan5           damnit
15:55 sfan5           ShadowNinja: I connected MinetestBot to one of the fast freenode servers (adams.freenode.net)
15:55 sfan5           !op ShadowBot
15:55 sfan5           !op
15:55 sfan5           just in case..
15:55 ShadowNinja     sfan5: How do you know that one if fast?
15:56 sfan5           ShadowNinja: I used this server during the last ddos, my bouncer works stable with adams.freenode.net
15:56 sfan5           :O md_<notgoingtohighlight>5 is here
15:57 markveidemanis  And another netsplit...
15:58 sfan5           !tw freenodestaff
15:59 MinetestBot     @iwebsource Could you send this along with more details to support@freenode.net please? (@freenodestaff)
16:12 markveidemanis  Hi KikaRz
16:12 markveidemanis  Wanna join my server again? I can serve you in the bar to test it
16:12 markveidemanis  Also i need a way people can see the menu
16:13 Calinou         loool
16:13 Calinou         markveidemanis is now trying to get a gf :3
16:14 markveidemanis  ???
16:14 markveidemanis  gf?
16:14 markveidemanis  I thought he was male -.-
16:14 markveidemanis  lol
16:15 markveidemanis  Wait a sec, Calinou
16:15 markveidemanis  According to you, nobody can talk to anyone...Either flirting or being homo
16:16 Calinou         :P
16:18 khonkhortisan   MinetestBot!
16:18 MinetestBot     khonkhortisan!
16:19 khonkhortisan   Hi.
16:19 Calinou         ~obit MinetestBot
16:19 khonkhortisan   How are you, MinetestBot?
16:19 Calinou         he doesn't even react to obits
16:20 markveidemanis  MINETESTBOT!
16:20 markveidemanis  MinetestBot
16:20 markveidemanis  MinetestBot!
16:20 MinetestBot     markveidemanis!
16:20 markveidemanis  Hmm...
16:20 markveidemanis  seems weird
16:21 markveidemanis  Hi minetestbot
16:21 khonkhortisan   ¡MinetestBot!
16:21 markveidemanis  khonk...
16:21 markveidemanis  Can you test a heli?
16:21 khonkhortisan   you no likeh de spanish
16:22 khonkhortisan   yeah
16:22 markveidemanis  i gtg
16:30 sokomine        does anyone remember where the resolution of the linux console was set? i.e. 80x25 instead of too_muchxtoo_much ? it used to be vga=bla iirc...
16:34 * Calinou       shrug
17:10 salamanderrake  what that dead beat finally showed up for work.
17:21 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
17:24 sfan5           what the fuck, youtube doesn't load in chrome and randomly ends the video in firefox
17:30 hmmmm           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8iepdIooU0
17:30 thefamilygrog66 I was on a server recently that had sandstone bricks randomly generated throughout sandy areas - is that something that can be toggled in minetest.conf?
17:31 hmmmm           should probably ask the server owner what mods he has running
17:31 thefamilygrog66 so it's not a default biome, or whatever?
17:32 hmmmm           clearly not
17:32 thefamilygrog66 not so clearly
17:32 hmmmm           nothing has changed in the default mapgen since 0.4.3
17:32 thefamilygrog66 jungles, dungeons
17:32 hmmmm           those weren't changes though
17:32 hmmmm           and they're optional features
17:32 thefamilygrog66 they weren't in 0.4.3, were they?
17:32 thefamilygrog66 that's what I'm talking about though
17:33 thefamilygrog66 "optional features" that can be turned on/off in the conf file
17:33 hmmmm           there is absolutely no sandstone generated in a world without a mod
17:34 thefamilygrog66 thanks for the info
17:34 thefamilygrog66 sandstone bricks, btw
17:36 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #106 from Novatux/heat 9a9df6cabf 2013-06-05T10:35:36-07:00 http://git.io/joWEsQ
17:36 MinetestBot     GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add an ABM function which resets heat to 0, since gates/controllers won't be cooled normally if they are moved (piston, etc...) during the cooling delay. edc10dac47 2013-06-04T21:45:19-07:00 http://git.io/w-5QyA
17:37 thefamilygrog66 what the hell is that video, hmmmm?!
17:37 hmmmm           everyday life in russia
17:37 thefamilygrog66 oooookay
17:38 thefamilygrog66 sounds pleasant
17:38 PilzAdam        USA everyday life: people get shot by 5 year olds :-p
17:39 thefamilygrog66 I watched a few seconds of a nearly naked. bloody man in a window - not really interested in seeing how it ends...
17:39 hmmmm           i don't think that's blood, just sayin
17:40 hmmmm           oh
17:40 hmmmm           were you offended by that video?
17:40 hmmmm           'cause i didn't mean to offend you or whatever
17:41 hmmmm           maybe i shouldn't cross-post things i find interesting or funny in this channel
17:41 hmmmm           i forget that people don't really have much of a tolerance
17:41 thefamilygrog66 what was happening in it, exactly?
17:41 PilzAdam        you think thats funny?
17:41 hmmmm           he's acting retarded, he doesn't die if that's what you're thinking
17:41 hmmmm           he wanted to make a scene in front of everybody
17:42 thefamilygrog66 good times
17:43 thefamilygrog66 PilzAdam: have you heard of a mod that adds sandstone bricks randomly to sandy areas when generated?
17:43 PilzAdam        no
17:44 thefamilygrog66 thanks
17:46 BlockMen        hi everyone
17:47 thefamilygrog66 hey BlockMen
17:47 NakedFury       hi
17:50 ShadowNinja     BlockMen: I think that on the site texturepacks should be renamed to texture_packs and the pieco of code that adds a space for the title should be removed.
17:51 ShadowNinja     Then the _ -> <space> code would do it.
17:51 BlockMen        ShadowNinja, agree. But celeron has to merge my pull first and he said he will do somewhen (because its not important)
17:54 BlockMen        *so if you notice he did you can change it or notice me that i can change then ;)
18:26 KikaRz          PilzAdam.
18:26 KikaRz          Results of Wubi: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
18:27 PilzAdam        -> #ubuntu
18:41 KikaRz          Olah
18:42 KikaRz          Well... I have a problem...
18:42 KikaRz          I can run Linux Crunchbang 10 because I have it DVD, and I can compile Minetest, and etcetera...
18:42 KikaRz          But... I can't run Steam and its games.
18:48 PilzAdam        KikaRz, wrong channel
18:50 PilzAdam        you can get proper support how to use steam in a support channel for your distro
19:05 * Calinou       started a game of hard-mode candy box
19:05 KikaRz          PilzAdam ...
19:06 Calinou         PilzAdam period period period
19:06 khonkhortisan   PilzAdam ellipsis
19:06 khonkhortisan   PilzAdam …
19:06 KikaRz          I hate PilzAdam so much...  As his code.
19:07 khonkhortisan   Hate my code for a change https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/759
19:09 Calinou         KikaRz: code something better then
19:10 KikaRz          What? Calinou, I can't hear you!
19:10 Calinou         can't hear me? see me then
19:10 KikaRz          How I can see you? Your webcam isn't connected!
19:12 KikaRz          Where is bgsmithjr?
19:12 KikaRz          This is a bit unclear... http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
19:15 MinetestBot     GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Close console when it loses focus but it is still on screen 7cb5217255 2013-06-05T12:14:14-07:00 http://git.io/ZoaThw
19:32 KikaRz          Guys, someone update this: http://dev.minetest.net/Intro
19:32 KikaRz          at Mod Folder Structure
19:32 KikaRz          it's not mods\minetest anymore
19:32 KikaRz          just mods
19:35 PilzAdam        done
19:35 KikaRz          Thank you.
19:36 KikaRz          Does VanessaE's server got Technic actually?
19:36 KikaRz          And PilzAdam, make rats able to be tamed *w*
19:38 khonkhortisan   it has technic, but no frames anymore
19:40 MinetestBot     GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Change mesecons signals so that they update effectors only after a globalstep, configurable to be on/off afad592783 2013-06-05T12:37:55-07:00 http://git.io/LXdtbA
19:43 KikaRz          no frames?
19:43 KikaRz          How ?
19:43 KikaRz          And why, VanessaE, you took out the water !?!?
19:43 KikaRz          :@
19:46 svuorela        how far aways is the bottom ?
19:48 khonkhortisan   I thought only the lava was gone
19:51 MinetestBot     john_cephalopoda: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
19:51 sfan5           svuorela: you mean of the minetest world?
19:51 svuorela        sfan5: yes
19:51 sfan5           svuorela: y axis 30 000 until -30 000
19:52 svuorela        sfan5: oh. then I maybe should abandon my attempt to reach the bottom :P
19:52 sfan5           yep
19:52 ShadowNinja     svuorela: It has been done...
19:53 svuorela        and I'm only at -270ish
19:53 svuorela        and getting impatient
19:54 Calinou         without too
19:54 Calinou         but it takes 5× more time ;)
19:54 Calinou         (you can change default speeds by the way)
19:54 Calinou         you can go between 0 and 31000 in 10 seconds if you wanted, without fast, but with fly and noclip of course
19:55 khonkhortisan   *swaps fast and default speeds* Give me fast, so I can go normal speed!
19:56 KikaRz          !seen Telek
19:56 KikaRz          Still Ignored.
19:56 khonkhortisan   !seen Telek
19:56 MinetestBot     khonkhortisan: Sorry, I haven't seen telek around.
19:56 KikaRz          sfan5, i'm still ignored.
19:56 * VanessaE      peeks in
19:56 sfan5           !unignore KikaRz
19:56 MinetestBot     sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list.
19:56 KikaRz          VanessaE, put the water on your server :(
19:57 sfan5           KikaRz: the bot restarted
19:57 sfan5           hi Vann
19:57 sfan5           damnit
19:57 KikaRz          sfan5, every time that I enter or the bot restarts, I get ignored.
19:57 sfan5           ta-fail
19:57 sfan5           *tab
19:57 sfan5           hi VanessaE
19:57 Calinou         khonkhortisan: actually you can do that :p
19:57 VanessaE        KikaRz: I disabled water and lava from the creative inventory because of griefing that was so bad it ground my server to a complete halt.
19:57 Calinou         you can also change normal or fast speeds to 0 :P
19:57 khonkhortisan   ik
19:57 Calinou         never tried negative though
19:57 KikaRz          VanessaE, I needed water :(
19:59 svuorela        oh. and mese or diamond pickaxe - what's best?
20:00 KikaRz          VanessaE, can't you or RBA make a permission to use liquids?
20:00 VanessaE        beats me.
20:00 KikaRz          beats what?
20:00 KikaRz          or who?
20:00 VanessaE        if someone can come up with such a mod I'd gladly install it
20:01 VanessaE        "beats me" = a stronger version of "I don't know"
20:01 KikaRz          Well... I'll don't be able to do that.
20:01 Calinou         you could /give KikaRz some water buckets, VanessaE
20:01 KikaRz          Well... Not that the problem
20:01 VanessaE        Calinou: buckets mod is disabled too, as are water/lava cans in technic.
20:01 KikaRz          It's that I want water, when she's away.
20:01 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix README a little and add piston sounds by suzenako, contributed by jordan4ibanez. 367a41416b 2013-06-05T13:01:11-07:00 http://git.io/LTGgcw
20:01 VanessaE        about the only way you can move water now is via pipeworks.
20:02 Calinou         VanessaE: sources then
20:04 VanessaE        I could do that I suppose
20:04 VanessaE        what's really needed is a way to whitelist who can and who cannot have water and/or lava buckets/sources/cans
20:04 VanessaE        KikaRz: sign on and I'll throw you some water sources.
20:04 KikaRz          I don't want now.
20:05 KikaRz          I have a work from college to do
20:05 VanessaE        bah
20:05 VanessaE        two seconds.
20:05 khonkhortisan   edit the inventory file
20:06 KikaRz          VanessaE, i got my inventory almost filled up
20:06 VanessaE        so move something into the crafting grid
20:07 VanessaE        (I sometimes use that to give me an extra 9 slots when I really can't get rid of anything I have)
20:13 sfan5           theres a "/pulverize_all" command?
20:13 VanessaE        I usually do something similar when I use Unified Inventory's "clear all" button
20:13 PilzAdam        sfan5, no
20:13 sfan5           john_minetest: ^
20:15 Exio            install windows in the "faster one" :P
20:26 sfan5           good night
20:52 svuorela        so. assuming that one falls and dies, can one go back to the dying spot and pick up lost items?
20:52 VanessaE        if you have the bones mod, yeah
20:52 VanessaE        without that mod, dieing doesn't make you lose your items anyway
20:53 PilzAdam        or creative mode
20:53 svuorela        the ones I was carrying while dieing
20:55 svuorela        I did lose everything I was carrying
20:56 PilzAdam        svuorela, what version of minetest do you use? what game? what mods?
20:57 svuorela        PilzAdam: stable. 0.4.6. only mod is a finding home mod. game is survival
20:58 PilzAdam        go back to the locatio  where you died, there will be a bones node wich contains the items
20:58 PilzAdam        *location
20:58 svuorela        I am slowly heading there
20:59 VanessaE        I'm considering granting interact by default on my server now.  Any objections?
21:00 PilzAdam        <LM> VanessaE, sure, go ahead
21:00 Exio            codedevil you mean
21:00 VanessaE        non-retroactive. :)
21:01 svuorela        PilzAdam: yay. found it
21:54 testman42       How do I contact admin of minetest server uplink.io ?
21:54 PilzAdam        go to the forum
21:57 testman42       I can't seem to find contact info on forum
21:58 PilzAdam        do you know the server topic?
22:01 testman42       no
22:02 testman42       i searched forum by keyword for "uplink", results were just something about DDoSing minetest servers
22:05 PilzAdam        -> #fridgeDDoS
22:09 Kacey           http://ifunny.mobi/f/yvkDpFF51
22:12 Kacey           i hate that guy...
22:12 Kacey           http://ifunny.mobi/f/UyGpW9L51
22:35 Reenjii         hello
22:35 Uberi           hi Reenjii
22:35 Reenjii         I try to set up a local minetest server but I'm struggling with a "failed to emerge player" error from server
22:36 Uberi           uh oh
22:37 Reenjii         i found several explanations on the web
22:37 Uberi           Reenjii: OS?
22:37 Reenjii         localhost routing problem, ipv6 not handled by minetest
22:37 Reenjii         bui'm on Archlinux and I compiled minetest 0.4.6
22:37 Uberi           latest from git?
22:38 Reenjii         yep
22:38 Reenjii         on wireshark I can see UPD exchanges between client and server
22:38 Uberi           hmm, isn't there an ipv6 patch for mt floating out there somewhere?
22:39 Reenjii         maybe but i'm still on ipv4
22:39 Reenjii         :)
22:39 Uberi           ah
22:39 Reenjii         localhost maps correctly to 127.0.0.1 not ::1
22:39 Uberi           well are you using the advanced tab?
22:39 Uberi           or the singleplayer tab?
22:40 Reenjii         i have the issue using both multiplayer and advanced tabs
22:40 Reenjii         when I enter a password (and there is non in auth.txt) I can see "Invalid password" packets in wireshark (and there is no emerge messages)
22:41 Reenjii         si I guess client and server can speak to each other :)
22:41 Reenjii         btw my client works well in singleplayer mode
22:42 PilzAdam        bye
22:42 Exio            bye PilzAdam
22:42 Reenjii         and I tried to launch the server using a world created in singleplayer mode and also with an empty world (thus created by the server itself)
22:42 Kacey           i get that error alot but minetest works fine anyway
22:43 Reenjii         the connection times out for me after ~10-15 seconds
22:44 Reenjii         maybe i should try to connect from another computer but I have only one for the moment
22:54 Reenjii         I can also connect on an online minetest server, so the issue is clearly on the server's side