Time Nick Message 00:17 * Kacey mumbles angrily 00:23 * Kacey wishes the idiots of his class would admit to the fact that he is smarter than them. 00:32 PilzAdam bye 01:36 khonkhortisan Create a contest, and then make sure you win 01:46 kaeza time for bed 01:46 kaeza night all 01:47 VanessaE night 02:27 VanessaE bbl 03:25 * VanessaE is back for a bit 03:26 NakedFury hey 03:26 VanessaE hi 03:26 NakedFury the -dev channel is getting lots of chatter this days 03:26 NakedFury really great 03:27 VanessaE yes, lots of useful stuff lately 03:27 VanessaE 0.4.7 is on the horizon and approaching fast. 03:27 NakedFury yeah 03:27 NakedFury ever since karl came back minetest has gotten lots of source code activity 03:28 NakedFury RBA, sapier, karl, etc 03:28 NakedFury this is great 04:03 khonkhortisan Where is it written how ^[combine works? 04:26 kahrl khonkhortisan: http://dev.minetest.net/texture 04:33 khonkhortisan ok, so the image manipulation takes the resolution as arguments. But there's no reverse; to get the resolution of an image. 04:37 kahrl you can grab the ITexture and call getSize() 04:37 khonkhortisan from lua? 04:37 kahrl of course not 04:38 kahrl lua runs on the server and textures can be overridden on any client 04:38 kahrl so the resolution would be useless 04:39 khonkhortisan So the problem is that I'm giving it a resolution, it should already handle it. 04:40 kahrl what are you trying to do? 04:41 khonkhortisan Fix 3d_armor/wieldview/unified_skins to work with a skin that is greater resolution than the armor/item/default skin size 04:41 khonkhortisan It uses the first 64x32 of the image to skin the player. 04:42 khonkhortisan If only I could use a percent or fraction for what pixel to offset to. 04:45 kahrl yeah, I don't think that's possible 04:46 kahrl the only copyToScaling in the engine is for [crack / [cracko 05:25 VanessaE hm, odd bug in farming - pumpkins don't grow anymore (and tilled soil under one turns back into dry dirt after a while) 05:45 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Only add ^[forcesingle to get raw texture if atlas is used 4f6bec19bc 2013-06-03T22:44:19-07:00 http://git.io/D4GO3g 05:51 khonkhortisan VE: default_inventory_chest.png didn't load at the chessboard travelnet box 05:52 VanessaE huh. I see no reason why that should be. 07:10 VanessaE bbl 07:50 Calinou yey, finished hell :D 10:56 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:14 rubenwardy Hi all! 11:15 PilzAdam rubenwardy, away nicks are annoying 11:16 rubenwardy nice to know 11:29 rubenwardy I might need someone to test my capture the flag game with me 11:39 rubenwardy Hi 11:40 * PilzAdam just ragequited from kaeza's server 11:41 PilzAdam I was building a stair in the air to a flying castle; the server lagged and I fell down 11:42 rubenwardy My technophobic step-mother has changed the admin password to the router from default, so I can not setup the ports 11:44 rubenwardy I could reset the router, and also the password, but I might have to give a bt password or something to set it up again 11:44 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiP9irNex-Q&feature=youtu.be 11:48 harrison kali durge na moh na mah 11:58 rubenwardy_ I took a gamble and it worked! 12:00 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (603ms) 12:02 rubenwardy Minetest uses UDP, correct? 12:05 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213:30000 12:05 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 12:05 rubenwardy !uo 86.129.229.213 12:05 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 12:05 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:30000 seems to be down 12:06 rubenwardy oh yeah, need to do firewall 12:08 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 12:08 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:30000 seems to be down 12:17 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 12:17 MinetestBot ... 12:17 rubenwardy Why is it dot dot dotting me? 12:17 rubenwardy !ignorelist 12:20 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 80 12:20 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:80 seems to be down 12:21 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 80 12:21 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:80 seems to be down 12:22 rubenwardy oh, my ip changed 12:22 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 12:22 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down 12:22 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 12:22 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down 12:23 rubenwardy Stupid me 12:23 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 12:23 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down 12:23 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 12:23 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down 12:24 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 80 12:24 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:80 seems to be down 12:24 rubenwardy The bot does not work 12:24 rubenwardy It says here: http://www.canyouseeme.org/ that it can see me 12:26 rubenwardy 31.53.195.140:80 is online 12:30 PilzAdam ummm 12:30 PilzAdam rubenwardy, /msg MinetestBot 12:30 rubenwardy I was 12:31 rubenwardy but then it was ... 12:31 GhostlyDeath !up 127.0.0.1:22 12:31 MinetestBot GhostlyDeath: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 12:32 GhostlyDeath !up 127.0.0.1 22 12:32 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:22 seems to be down 12:34 rubenwardy MinetestBot is shit 12:34 rubenwardy use http://www.canyouseeme.org/ 12:35 GhostlyDeath !up 178.33.34.239 80 12:35 MinetestBot 178.33.34.239:80 seems to be down 12:35 PilzAdam sfan5, suggestion: 1 !up command / 10 minutes in channels 12:35 PilzAdam (per user) 12:37 rubenwardy Ok 12:37 rubenwardy The 80 port works 12:37 rubenwardy but the 3000 port does not 12:37 rubenwardy both are forwarded in same way 12:38 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/6d7LYTKv 12:38 GhostlyDeath The web site looks like it only does TCP 12:38 GhostlyDeath not UDP 12:38 Calinou minetest uses UDP 12:38 Calinou so forward UDP 12:38 rubenwardy yeah, I assumed so 12:38 GhostlyDeath yes 12:38 rubenwardy I did 12:38 rubenwardy >> http://pastebin.com/6d7LYTKv 12:38 GhostlyDeath Why are you using port triggering? 12:39 Calinou did you put your internal IP, 12:39 rubenwardy It is there as default 12:39 GhostlyDeath You know what that is correct? 12:39 GhostlyDeath Port triggering means this 12:39 GhostlyDeath Your game or whatever connects to some server via UDP or TCP 12:39 GhostlyDeath on the specified port 12:39 GhostlyDeath then it triggers to your host 12:39 GhostlyDeath then allows the outside (only certain systems) to connect back to the triggered ports 12:40 GhostlyDeath Some routers might only allow trigger backs from the host communicated to 12:40 GhostlyDeath So in short 12:40 GhostlyDeath a) All ports closed 12:41 GhostlyDeath b) program connects to remote server UDP 1234 12:41 rubenwardy Calinou, I use Bt HomeHub2, and that snippet is of a program def. You can then link a program def to a device. 12:41 GhostlyDeath c) router opens trigger range to the host on the local network 12:41 GhostlyDeath In most cases, for security reasons, only the host you connect to can connect back 12:42 rubenwardy Port triggering seems to be an optional value, I have deleted it 12:42 GhostlyDeath You are trying to host a server or are you using a client to connect to a remote server? 12:42 rubenwardy host a server 12:42 GhostlyDeath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering 12:43 rubenwardy should the trigger port be 30000? 12:43 GhostlyDeath What is your router's full make and model? 12:44 rubenwardy BtHomeHub2 12:44 rubenwardy BT is make 12:44 rubenwardy HomeHub2 is model 12:46 rubenwardy I have set up a server before 12:46 rubenwardy And it worked 12:46 GhostlyDeath Keep the trigger blank 12:46 rubenwardy I have opened my firewall to 30000 12:46 rubenwardy If you keep it blank, it goes to 0 12:47 GhostlyDeath Port 0 is invalid, so it might not matter 12:49 rubenwardy !up redcrab.suret.net 30401 12:49 MinetestBot redcrab.suret.net:30401 is up (503ms) 12:51 rubenwardy Must be a firewall problem 12:52 rubenwardy I have checked a tutorial, and I am doing everything right 12:54 rubenwardy My antivirus firewall looks ok 12:55 rubenwardy Can someone attempt to connect to me? 12:55 rubenwardy 31.53.195.140 30000 12:56 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 30000 12:56 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 is up (199ms) 12:56 rubenwardy Boooya! 13:01 proller server_announce = true 13:03 rubenwardy yeah 13:03 rubenwardy It is only a testing server atm 13:24 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5705874 13:26 PilzAdam there should be some kind of statistics: flags owned by team, captured flags, players, death, K/D ratio etc. 13:30 PilzAdam rubenwardy, the player wichs name is in the name setting in minetest.conf has not revokeable privs 13:30 rubenwardy yeah 13:31 rubenwardy #of flags statistic is easy 13:31 PilzAdam this has a lot of potential 13:32 PilzAdam also team specific textures for the flag 13:33 rubenwardy That would be good 13:33 rubenwardy but you would need multiple nodes 13:34 rubenwardy list teams now displays 13:34 rubenwardy >> default (3 flags, 2 players) 13:35 rubenwardy I will add a /team_stat and a page on /team 13:41 rubenwardy doing a flag defragmentor (checks all flags are on the right team 13:41 rubenwardy ) 14:12 KikaRz Hallo! 14:12 KikaRz :) 14:12 KikaRz I'll be back to minetest in the following months. =) 14:44 rubenwardy !tw rubenwardy 14:44 rubenwardy lol 14:44 MinetestBot @RileyTX @PaulGingerich You are a bitch. (@rubenwardy) 14:45 KikaRz lol 14:45 KikaRz !tw PaulGingerich 14:45 KikaRz who's that guy? 14:46 KikaRz See ya later buddies 14:46 KikaRz !online vanessae.mine.bz 14:47 rubenwardy He was a 12 year that was sentanced in prison for life 14:47 KikaRz oh... 14:47 rubenwardy !tw @PaulGingerich 14:47 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id 14:47 rubenwardy !tw PaulGingerich 14:47 MinetestBot Paul Henry Gingerich update http://wp.me/pLwBV-2rQ /via @wordpressdotcom (@PaulGingerich) 14:47 KikaRz stupid MinetestBot. 14:47 KikaRz Got me ignored for no reason. 14:47 rubenwardy !up vanessae.mine.bz 14:47 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (379ms) 14:48 KikaRz thank you. 14:48 KikaRz I'll play later 14:48 rubenwardy http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/28/article-2107489-11F229B2000005DC-292_306x423.jpg 14:51 PilzAdam thexyz, derpswa99 send me a PM where he says that he doesnt have permission to post something 15:04 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93314#p93314 15:04 rubenwardy !title 15:04 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Name your sever (Page 1) — Servers — Minetest Forums 15:11 Zeg9 ?? 15:12 rubenwardy sever 15:13 * Calinou finished candy box o/ 15:13 Calinou 8500 HP now 15:13 ruskie you sure you finished it? 15:13 Calinou yes, my inventory says I finished it 15:13 ruskie my HP was meassured in 9.999999999999999e99 or something like that 15:13 Calinou and I finished developer computer 15:14 ruskie when I finished it 15:14 ruskie I guess I don't consider that message as the final finish hehe 15:14 ruskie you now have a computer tab 15:14 ruskie use it ;) 15:24 Zeg9 Mesecons is a pain to enable from commandline 15:27 Calinou IMO, mods should be on by default on servers 15:27 Calinou noone wants to edit text files to enable mods 15:27 Calinou but you could do that to disable mods 15:27 Calinou but keep them off by default on clients 15:28 Zeg9 in the end I loaded my world.mt in singleplayer so I have the gui for it... 15:30 VanessaE hiall 15:30 Jordach hey VanessaE 15:31 Zeg9 VanessaE: does homedecor provide 3d signs? 15:31 VanessaE yes 15:31 Zeg9 ah, I was wondering where they came from :D 15:34 ShadowNinja Zeg9: I did %s/false/true/. 15:34 Zeg9 ShadowNinja: I dont really want to enable all of them. In fact, I'm opening back an old map 15:34 VanessaE since I'd originally had a fork of signs that could put them onto fenceposts, kaeza and I added them to allow the same for homedecor's brass and wrought iron fences. 15:40 rubenwardy qwerty 15:41 PilzAdam its funny how you watch random minetest review and Jordach already commented on it: http://youtu.be/Q70q3aTXpw8 15:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: I'm seeing problems with sheep disappearing again. Also, farming mod provides pumpkins, but they don't grow (the tilled soil turns back into dirt). 15:43 PilzAdam yea, need to fix the pumpkins 15:44 VanessaE I'd suggest moving those to farming_plus, perhaps. 15:45 PilzAdam ehm 15:45 PilzAdam they are in farming_pluss 15:45 VanessaE oh, heh 15:45 VanessaE I must have been looking at outdated code then (online) 15:45 PilzAdam thats why they are broken 15:45 VanessaE in that case nevermind ;) 15:46 VanessaE they're still busted :D 15:47 Jordach isnt that the case for most PilzAdam's mods 15:48 PilzAdam mostly I code my mods in 1 day and they work perfectly fine 15:48 PilzAdam then I release them and walk away 15:48 Jordach ...for you 15:48 PilzAdam markveidemanis, quit join spamming 15:48 VanessaE *sniffs* ... what's that smell? 15:48 markveidemanis Half the people here join spam 15:48 PilzAdam no 15:48 VanessaE OH, I know... it's PilzAdam...he's full of shit ;) 15:48 markveidemanis jordach, oldcoder, 15:48 Jordach WHAT 15:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: half the people of the world might jump off a bridge, too. 15:49 markveidemanis Yes you do 15:49 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you are the only one that produces 5 join/part lines when joining 15:49 Jordach markveidemanis, OR, use a real client 15:49 PilzAdam this is the last warning 15:49 PilzAdam next time you will be banned 15:49 markveidemanis fuck you 15:50 * Jordach eats popcorn 15:50 rubenwardy lol 15:51 VanessaE Jordach: share? 15:51 Jordach VanessaE, sure 15:51 markveidemanis SEE? ^^^ 15:51 markveidemanis doog timing aswell 15:51 PilzAdam markveidemanis, hmm... that just shows me that you can control the join spam 15:51 VanessaE markveidemanis: that's not join spam, that's an automatic Freenode cloak. 15:51 PilzAdam wich means you have done this in purpose all the time 15:51 Jordach markveidemanis, thats not as bad as three lines 15:52 Zeg9 Anyone has a link to the steel mod? 15:52 markveidemanis sorry no 15:52 Jordach steel mod? 15:52 markveidemanis I know where... 15:52 VanessaE (actually, so is mark's) 15:52 Jordach mods.minetest.ru 15:52 Jordach check it 15:52 Jordach !title 15:52 MinetestBot Jordach: Game Church : The Minetest - YouTube 15:52 markveidemanis Cornernotes megapack has it 15:52 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2014 15:52 sfan5 Jordach: https?:// is required for it to notice it 15:52 VanessaE maybe this? 15:53 sfan5 !re 15:53 sfan5 !re ` 15:53 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a regex and a message seperated by ` 15:53 VanessaE Zeg9: ^^^^^^^ 15:53 VanessaE bah, bad download link. 15:54 Zeg9 Yeah. :/ 15:54 Zeg9 Will look on mods.minetest.ru 15:54 sfan5 !re (https?://[^<> "\x01]+)`mods.minetest.ru 15:54 MinetestBot false 15:54 sfan5 ^ Jordach 15:54 Zeg9 oh, seems I still have it in my archives 15:55 VanessaE Zeg9: send it my way please, so I can fix the first post 15:55 Zeg9 I think I'll upload it to my github 15:55 VanessaE that'll work too 15:58 Zeg9 VanessaE: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-steel 15:59 VanessaE fixed. thanks 16:00 VanessaE there, and cached the one good image 16:03 rubenwardy "Oh look at my hand, it looks like a mushroom" 16:03 sfan5 rubenwardy: who said that? 16:03 rubenwardy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vdqsz87ZBA 16:04 sfan5 I love that video 16:04 sfan5 his voice... 16:05 Jordach <3 16:05 sfan5 "Papirus" 16:05 * Zeg9 lol'ed SUPERTACOMAN98 YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME PEOPLE THINK ITS BETTER CUZ ITS LESS LAGGY YOU DUMB BITCH! 16:05 Zeg9 [/quote=Vladimir Vex] 16:05 Jordach Minecrafters... They're like my older brother, easy to piss off 16:06 sfan5 yeah, most of them 16:06 sfan5 "This game just got 20000 times better" 16:07 sfan5 WTF?! 16:07 sfan5 [quote][...]I would recommend trying this game and pirating Minecraft.[...][/quote] 16:08 sfan5 rubenwardy: you make 3 comments at once? 16:08 rubenwardy Yeah bruf 16:08 rubenwardy I make them as I watch 16:08 Jordach Zeg9, how do i craft a pedestal 16:08 VanessaE Zeg9: it's on my server now. 16:09 Zeg9 Jordach: stone,stone,stone/ ,stone, /stone,stone,stone 16:09 rubenwardy fixed 16:09 Zeg9 I hate when people say "you cracked minecraft"... The free download is directly from their website 16:09 Jordach tch, my server has it missing 16:10 sfan5 also when you use a hacked client (like nodus) on MC server, you get banned for "hacking" 16:10 sfan5 hacking != cheating 16:11 rubenwardy qwerty 16:11 rubenwardy /////////////////////////// 16:11 sfan5 "Oh and you can jump aswell. Sweet!" hahaha 16:12 Zeg9 VanessaE: by the way my idea for the metal blocks was coming from here 8) 16:12 VanessaE I thought maybe :) 16:14 * Zeg9 just learned you could place PilzAdam's gunpowder by checking for unknown blocks on my map... 16:14 sfan5 does papyrus grow? 16:15 Zeg9 They do 16:15 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLsY0y0SfP0 16:15 sfan5 !title 16:15 MinetestBot sfan5: Maggie Monster (Guinea Pig) - Spoof Trailer - YouTube 16:17 Jordach my gimp zoom level is at 9000 16:19 rubenwardy bye all 16:22 Zeg9 Hey john_minetest 16:23 mrJMR REGISTER 16:23 VanessaE this ain't chanserv, mrJMR 16:23 mrJMR Ok 16:28 * Zeg9 got lots of "ServerEnvironment::addActiveObjectRaw(): could not find block ..." 16:28 JMR_ there 16:28 Jordach SOOOOOOO SMOOTH! http://i.imgur.com/HlD39vr.png 16:28 JMR_ Now I am registered here 16:29 PilzAdam Jordach, cool 16:29 * PilzAdam likes 16:29 Zeg9 Jordach: converted into "palette" mode in gimp? 16:29 Zeg9 May I add this to skins mod ? :p 16:29 Jordach Zeg9, i just changed the colours out 16:29 Jordach Zeg9, i also have a bunch of skins lying about 16:30 * Zeg9 is interested 16:32 Jordach Zeg9, http://www.mediafire.com/download/rw7u0znbzfv5r2k/skins.zip 16:32 Jordach all of these are cc-by-sa 16:32 Zeg9 Jordach, thanks! 16:32 Jordach four skins 16:33 Jordach and a female sam 16:33 Jordach solving the male/female issue 16:33 Jordach WazuClan uses these afaik 16:33 Jordach (vanessa's skin + sam f.) 16:34 Zeg9 Generating previews... And I'll upload it 16:35 markveidemanis How do i speed up loading? 16:35 markveidemanis without disabling item visuals 16:35 Jordach markveidemanis, you cant. 16:36 Jordach this ISNT #minecraft 16:36 markveidemanis ? 16:40 Jordach hows this looking? http://i.imgur.com/m9jkJBM.png 16:41 Calinou looks good 16:41 Calinou but still not finished ;) 16:41 Jordach john_minetest, unfinished 16:41 Zeg9 would look better with stone and gravel :D 16:41 Zeg9 I like the grass and dirt especially 16:41 Jordach it already supports carts 16:41 Calinou TIL 16×16 is hires 16:41 markveidemanis Zeg9 16:41 markveidemanis whats only4kbps 16:41 Jordach and xpanes 16:42 Jordach it also supports default flowers 16:43 Jordach its also the world where i found that cliff for the render. 16:43 Jordach ProTip: My house uses a ladder as the mobs in sim_mobs are dumb 16:43 Zeg9 markveidemanis, not ready yet 16:45 Jordach Zeg9, john_minetest, Calinou: it's 8px 16:45 Zeg9 john_minetest, I once got 18 people on mine :D 16:45 Zeg9 Traxie21 too iirc 16:46 Calinou john_minetest: Metacraft beat you to it 16:46 Calinou 212 players! 16:46 Zeg9 My brother is trying to press my shutdown button. /me doesnt regret having a "door" on my computer. 16:46 Jordach Zeg9, im coin operated 16:46 Calinou john_minetest: yep, redcrab servers aren't listed 16:46 Zeg9 Calinou, at the same time? 16:47 Calinou Zeg9: my case's buttons and USB ports are on top, not on the front :P 16:47 Calinou Zeg9: yes 16:47 Calinou it was some kind of DoS attack :P 16:47 Zeg9 oh, I remember now 16:47 Zeg9 lol 16:47 Calinou Zeg9: also, putting your case in a cupboard or something like that is bad for cooling 16:47 Calinou and may increase noise (turbulence) 16:47 * Jordach cant wait until MGV7 16:48 Zeg9 +1 16:49 Zeg9 Calinou: http://tinyurl.com/m2t2ypf << here is my case (sorta) 16:49 OldCoder Hi' 16:49 OldCoder john_minetest, hmm? 16:49 Jordach sup OldCoder 16:50 Zeg9 Hello, OldCoder 16:50 OldCoder Jordach, Zeg9 Hello. Things are proceeding. 16:50 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/dICYqa6.png 16:50 OldCoder Revisiting my old scripts and hoping to write new setup page. 16:50 Jordach Zeg9, john_minetest ^ 16:50 Calinou 140€ for this lolololo 16:50 OldCoder * pafes 16:51 Jordach pages* 16:51 OldCoder john_minetest, I can't view images today 16:51 OldCoder Yes 16:51 Calinou how come my full tower case is 135€ with shipping... 16:51 Zeg9 140 ? I didn't pay 140€ for this! 16:51 OldCoder Oops 16:51 OldCoder Jordach, * 16:51 Calinou and full tower shipping is 20€ :p 16:51 Jordach thats fine 16:51 Zeg9 didnt read the link lol 16:51 * OldCoder is on a little HP Mini 16:51 NakedFury that is a lot 16:51 Calinou oh, it's bundled with a PSU 16:51 NakedFury cant you find a cheaper one calinou? 16:51 Calinou most bundled PSUs are shit 16:51 OldCoder HP Mini has quirks but it is a very convenient size 16:51 NakedFury ohh that explains it 16:51 Calinou NakedFury: there are, but you have to deal with some downsides then 16:52 Calinou eg. noise, soldered PCI slots, etc 16:52 Calinou bad finish too :P 16:52 Calinou 130€ is "top notch" for a case, no need to go above ;) 16:52 Zeg9 Jordach, looks a lot better 16:52 Calinou OldCoder: trashable case :3 16:52 NakedFury the only downside to mine is lack of good space but that is because my psu has some huge cables 16:54 Jordach heres my current setup: http://i.imgur.com/mFifRcH.jpg 16:54 Calinou john_minetest: inb4 scam 16:54 Calinou NakedFury: modularity FTW 16:54 Calinou < says the guy with a non-modular PSU ._. 16:54 Jordach Calinou, my stock acer case is fine 16:54 NakedFury it is a modular psu 16:54 Calinou dat wireless mouse, Jordach 16:54 NakedFury but the cables that I use are too long 16:55 Jordach Calinou, its wired 16:55 Calinou Jordach: yeah, shitty inside look, zero cable management, shitty finish, soldered PCI slots, noname PSU 16:55 NakedFury long and too wide. 16:55 Calinou there is a reason you build PCs today :P 16:55 Jordach Calinou, PSU was replaced 16:55 Jordach most of the insides arent stock anymore 16:55 Jordach the mobo and cpu are now just stock 16:55 NakedFury yeah I spent good money and built my own pc 16:56 NakedFury its possible I may need a new graphic card in the near future but for now I can run new games fine 16:56 Calinou tip: buy modified cards (with a few exceptions), reference ones are noisy :P 16:56 NakedFury modified? 16:57 NakedFury how do I tell when browsing 16:57 Calinou by modified, I mean, a card that has a modified heatsink/fan combo, so that it cools better and quiter 16:57 Calinou just look at random tests on the internet :P 16:57 NakedFury ohh 16:57 Calinou it is more expensive (between 20 and 60 euros) but worth it 16:57 NakedFury that would make sense but I would also need to consider space 16:58 Calinou most modified cards aren't much longer than a ref one 16:58 Jordach Calinou, http://imgur.com/a/IditW 16:58 Calinou most cases also support up to 30cm graphic cards 16:58 Calinou mine supports 34 :P 16:58 Calinou ah ok Jordach 16:58 Calinou dat intel stickers 3 16:58 Calinou :3* 16:58 Jordach Calinou, its a '06 P4 16:58 Jordach i can upgrade to duo core 16:58 NakedFury and another thing I have to consider is if I stay amd or switch to intel 16:59 Jordach stay with AMD 16:59 Calinou depends 16:59 Calinou value? AMD then 16:59 Calinou performance? intel then 16:59 Jordach they arent all about DRM either 16:59 Jordach (AMD) 16:59 Calinou suddenly: drivers 16:59 Jordach hurr durr 17:01 Jordach Calinou, dunno why, but why hasnt the P4 line died 17:01 Jordach (as in usage) 17:01 Jordach it proves that P4's dont die 17:01 Calinou because it's still sufficient for web browsing, like open source drivers 17:01 Jordach yeah 17:01 Jordach but MS wants them deda 17:01 Calinou more recent CPUs don't die either, lots of people are still on C2D 17:01 Jordach dead 17:01 Calinou they don't, they want tech to advance 17:01 Calinou you're going to break stuff 17:02 Jordach as most of them can run 7, but not 8 17:02 VanessaE Zeg9: expanded the first post on that steel mod considerably, in case you're curious. 17:02 Calinou also, it's not like MS are the nicest guys in the world 17:02 * Zeg9 will look 17:02 Jordach Calinou, windows 8 is awesome 17:03 Jordach just because of performance boosts 17:03 Calinou it is faster than windows 7, yeah 17:03 Jordach Calinou, 8.1 can boot to the desktop now 17:03 Calinou but it, and the upgrade, are not free (as in price) 17:03 Calinou 8.1 isn't out yet 17:03 Calinou and I smell paid upgrade 17:03 Jordach Calinou, yeah 17:03 Jordach Calinou, i dont 17:04 Jordach windows 8 i think is better than 7, but just under XP 17:05 Jordach and vista hasnt crashed once :) 17:06 Calinou same for me, back when I used it 17:06 * Calinou finished translating stuntrally more or less, 95% done 17:06 Jordach Calinou, thats because im using the correct drivers for vista and not the OEM Crap they provide me with# 17:06 Jordach -# 17:06 * Calinou saw a translation griefing in another project's suggestion 17:06 Calinou who does that :P 17:06 Jordach Calinou, someone with a lack of language 17:06 Jordach OMFG 17:07 Jordach we should make l33tsp34k a language 17:07 Calinou it is 17:07 Calinou in BZFlag there is a l33t language 17:07 Jordach just for minetest 17:10 I-Punkt someone sucessfulle run a minetest --server on raspberry Pi? 17:11 kaeza greetings 17:12 * VanessaE pokes kaeza 17:12 Zeg9 Hi kaeza 17:12 VanessaE I-Punkt: I seem to recall reading of at least one person doing that, whether they were successful or not I dunno 17:12 VanessaE but the RPi is a but underpowered for running a MT server 17:13 VanessaE bit* 17:13 kaeza hey V 17:13 kaeza hey Zeg 17:13 VanessaE (at least, if you want anything other than a fairly vanilla setup, with no mapgen-oriented mods) 17:13 kaeza any news? 17:14 webdesigner97 hi 17:15 Zeg9 Hi 17:15 I-Punkt on my rpi runs the server, but the Desktopclient sleeps during [0%] Media while connecting. In >Serverconsole i can see the client-login 17:16 webdesigner97 Does anybody have a good explanation on chatcommands with multiple paramerters? The API documentation and the dev wiki don't explain it :( 17:16 VanessaE kaeza: look at the latest commits to the minetest engine, kahrl has been doing some good stuff of late 17:16 Zeg9 anyone else tried running it on a wii ? ;-) 17:17 I-Punkt [0%] media .... any idea? 17:17 VanessaE heh 17:17 VanessaE I-Punkt: no idea, sorry 17:17 PilzAdam I-Punkt, maybe set up the cURL thingy to download the media from somewhere else? 17:18 PilzAdam and maybe post a --verbose log of the server 17:18 VanessaE I-Punkt: how media are you trying to transfer anyway? 17:18 kaeza VanessaE, I see. so one can safely use /clearobjects now? 17:18 VanessaE kaeza: yep 17:19 VanessaE kaeza: worst case scenario, it will add about 90 MB to your usage, 17:19 I-Punkt VanessaE: PilzAdam: any howto-url? the media-Line is written during connecting. 17:19 VanessaE I-Punkt: what I mean is, do you have a lot of mods, lots of textures, etc to send from server to client? 17:19 kaeza that's a massive reduction from ~23GB :) 17:19 VanessaE yep :) 17:19 I-Punkt no mods, a new clean server 17:20 I-Punkt lets talk german, lol... 17:20 VanessaE no :) 17:20 I-Punkt french? 17:20 I-Punkt ;-) 17:20 PilzAdam I-Punkt, btw: #minetest-de 17:21 I-Punkt oh.... thx 17:22 PilzAdam new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 17:23 Jordach kahrl is just awesome with bugfixes 17:24 Zeg9 btw, will official builds contain gettext? 17:24 PilzAdam yes 17:24 Zeg9 Great 17:25 markveidemanis Would anyone like to test my pub 17:25 markveidemanis Theres no carlsberg 17:26 webdesigner97 mark, i don't have much time for the hotel today, sry. I'll help you tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ;) 17:27 KikaRz Hi 17:27 markveidemanis okay 17:27 markveidemanis Hi KikaRz 17:27 KikaRz Hello VanessaE 17:27 Jordach hey KikaRz 17:27 KikaRz Hello markveidemanis 17:27 KikaRz Hello Jordach 17:28 markveidemanis Wanna test my cafe? 17:28 KikaRz Your what? 17:28 markveidemanis Bar/Pub 17:28 KikaRz Well, I would like. 17:28 Jordach i think markveidemanis means café 17:28 markveidemanis join my server in the serverlist 17:28 KikaRz cafãC? 17:28 KikaRz xd 17:28 VanessaE hi 17:28 markveidemanis I was trying, but it wont work 17:28 markveidemanis cafæ 17:28 KikaRz markveidemanis, your server ip please? 17:29 markveidemanis 86.158.246.104 17:29 KikaRz markveidemanis: , it's café 17:29 markveidemanis łøł 17:30 KikaRz Your beautiful keyboards dislike ´ , ` , ^ , ~ õãâêîôûáéíóúàèìòù 17:30 KikaRz lawl 17:30 VanessaE KikaRz: y u no play on my server? :( 17:30 PilzAdam wtf 17:30 markveidemanis @łe¶ŧ←↓→øþæßðđŋħł«»¢“”nµ that is all 17:30 PilzAdam this is an English channel 17:31 KikaRz I've been playing at it 17:31 markveidemanis µtorrent :) 17:31 VanessaE oh. ok, carry on then :D 17:31 markveidemanis kikaRz, join mine 17:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RcqOJYM.png 17:31 KikaRz PilzAdam, there are some keyboards that supports "accents" 17:31 khonkhortisan µController 17:31 KikaRz VanessaE, I'm going to test markveidemanis's cafe 17:31 Jordach KikaRz, on a windows system: alt gr + letters 17:31 markveidemanis khonk, wanna go be a bartender? 17:31 KikaRz ? 17:31 khonkhortisan no 17:32 khonkhortisan I don't drink 17:32 markveidemanis you dont need to 17:32 markveidemanis its not drinks 17:32 markveidemanis its cake! 17:32 Jordach heres my keyboard with altgr + all keys 17:32 KikaRz ?)???•??N??! 17:32 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5733284/ 17:32 KikaRz lawl 17:33 KikaRz So VanessaE, how have you been? 17:33 Jordach Calinou, Zeg9, john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/RcqOJYM.png 17:33 VanessaE been okay, all things considered. 17:33 Jordach WOOD 17:33 khonkhortisan You need ãàâąȧä 17:33 KikaRz VanessaE, i'll have time to do my mods :) 17:33 VanessaE Jordach: looks more like brick 17:33 KikaRz In 10 days, i'll be vacating. 17:34 Jordach VanessaE, i like wood tilews 17:34 Jordach tiles* 17:34 KikaRz that's a cool term... but its: I'll be on vacations 17:34 khonkhortisan I have wood like that with longer panels 17:34 Jordach VanessaE, four slats or keep it like that 17:35 VanessaE Jordach: keep it like that, but reduce the 3d effect a bit 17:36 Jordach VanessaE, BUMPmaps 17:36 Jordach i can use those when we get em 17:36 VanessaE yes 17:36 VanessaE HDX already has bumpmaps :) 17:36 Jordach for now, im leaving it 17:36 VanessaE (but of course you need RBA's fork to use them) 17:37 VanessaE I should produce a separate fork of HDX that moves all of the 3d effect to the bumpmaps 17:38 Jordach HDX Bumpmap Pack 17:39 khonkhortisan "wieldview_character_bg.png^[combine:^[sizexof:character.png;x^[sizexof:character.png;:0,^[sizeyof:character.png;="..wielded_item_texture.."^[scale: 17:39 khonkhortisan armor/wieldeditems gets complicated with different image sizes 17:40 Telek Do them as voxels and just have them bake to 2d images as needed? :D 17:41 KikaRz guys, can I give you one idea? 17:41 Zeg9 PilzAdam, so, dungeon masters can destroy bones, heh 17:41 VanessaE New build: 4f6bec19[...] 17:41 KikaRz Well... Why you don't put a /gamemode command 17:42 KikaRz that you can set your gamemode as Creative or Survival? 17:42 Exio because, for now, the gamemode is defined for all users 17:43 KikaRz ... That's what I know. 17:46 KikaRz VanessaE: Can I join your server? 17:47 VanessaE sure, it's always up 17:47 KikaRz VanessaE: I want to tell you some things 17:47 KikaRz in-game. 17:47 VanessaE just /msg me here, I'm not on the server right now 17:48 Telek Hey Vanessa, could you reset my pass when you get a chance and send me a PM? 17:49 VanessaE Zeg9: can you check that steel mod and see if there's anything in it that would cause this? --> 12:21:06: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/item.lua:339: attempt to call field 'handle_node_drops' (a nil value) 17:49 VanessaE Telek: sure 17:49 KikaRz Who can give me the minetest texture pack? 17:49 KikaRz I have Sphax for no reason '-' 17:49 VanessaE KikaRz: just delete the contents of minetestfolder/textures/all 17:49 KikaRz Really? 17:49 VanessaE yeah 17:50 VanessaE chances are that's where sphax resides 17:50 KikaRz Lol 17:50 KikaRz I'm running at Windows 98 '-' 17:50 KikaRz working very well *w* 17:51 VanessaE Zeg9: nevermind - it can't be that mod, it's just simple nodes and recipes. there's nothing in there that messes with drops. 17:51 Zeg9 Yeah 17:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: ^^^ that bug is clearly in the latest git of minetest. 17:51 Telek KikaRz: Windows 98 + Minetest?!?! 17:51 Zeg9 When does it occur? 17:51 * Telek didn't think that would work. 17:51 KikaRz Yes Telek. 17:51 KikaRz Working well 17:51 VanessaE Zeg9: no clue, I just see the server crash now and then, and find that ^^^ in my logs. 17:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, no, it appears in the minetest.dig_node() function; you cant image the shitstorm here if it would be a real bug in upstream 17:52 KikaRz VanessaE, joining your server... 17:52 KikaRz @OFFTOPIC - how i update opengl? 17:52 Zeg9 update your drivers 17:53 KikaRz ... 17:53 KikaRz Already 17:53 KikaRz and the opengl don't updates. 17:53 Calinou \o/ 17:53 Calinou J4I on #debian @ oftc 17:53 Zeg9 Well. You can also use opengl's software renderer ;-) 17:54 KikaRz ? 17:54 KikaRz what? 17:54 KikaRz I think this works: http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Getting_started#Windows 17:54 KikaRz GRRRRR! 17:55 Calinou KikaRz: too old graphics card 17:55 Telek It's software not hardware opengl though KikaRz 17:55 KikaRz not too old -.- 17:55 kaeza [14:50:24] I'm running at Windows 98 '-' <-- Win98 OS is the best Win version EVAR 17:55 kaeza Win98SE* 17:55 Telek We need more fallback capabilities :( 17:55 Calinou no we don't 17:55 Calinou windows 98 cannot run most software from today 17:55 kaeza IK 17:55 Calinou no need to try 17:56 Zeg9 Irrlicht has got 2 software renderers too 17:56 KikaRz Let me see what are those 17:56 Zeg9 (only one works with minetest from my experience though) 17:56 Calinou both suck :P 17:56 Calinou even on an i7 you have 20 FPS :P 17:56 Telek Well given that 0.4.6 broke on Atom N2600's which are year old chips (due to horrid PowerVR SGX chips) due to the shader stuff, and that I can still run minetest on either a Radeon 9000 or 9800 with 128 megs of ram prior to this... 17:57 VanessaE Telek: try signing in now. 17:57 Calinou shitty year old chips*, FTFY 17:57 Calinou also, you can disable shaders 17:57 Telek Okay, thanks Vanessa ;) 17:57 Telek Calinou: It still threw an error about shaders with them off. 17:57 Calinou also, large amounts of VRAM do not mean performance 17:57 Telek Who said anything about speed? 17:57 KikaRz Not that. 17:57 KikaRz I've got 2 equal graphics card 17:57 KikaRz in each computer 17:57 KikaRz Using renderer: OpenGL 2.1.2 17:57 kaeza someone has been placing water all around spawn .-. 17:57 Telek I just mean enough that it wouldn't crash with 'out of texture memory' errors. 17:57 KikaRz GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!: NViDia Corporation 17:58 Telek Which it actually DOES do with enough modpacks on a card that small. 17:58 Calinou shitty onboard thingy, see 17:58 KikaRz Dafuq? 17:58 Calinou even if it worked, I'd be surprised 17:58 kaeza lel 17:58 KikaRz why i've been kicked? 17:58 Telek KikaRz: I used that under linux and Minetest was the only thing that worked right on it. 17:58 Calinou the bot is a bit too strict 17:58 KikaRz It's a piece of crap 17:59 Calinou no u 17:59 Telek It was maybe 20-30fps max FYI 17:59 kaeza whoa 17:59 kaeza netsplit? 18:00 Telek Whee :) 18:00 * Calinou has irc_conf_mode = 1 18:01 KikaRz Maybe. 18:01 KikaRz Calinou, you said that I were a piece of crap? 18:01 KikaRz . 18:01 Calinou yeah :P sorry 18:01 KikaRz telek, wee what? 18:01 KikaRz yeah what? 18:02 KikaRz Omg, this irc is laggy 18:02 webdesigner97 Some weeks ago, somebody told me way to call a chatcommand from the API. Who can tell me it again? 18:04 kaeza webdesigner97, minetest.chatcommands["foo"].func("bar", "baz") 18:05 KikaRz got to go. 18:05 kaeza "foo" is command, "bar" is user, "baz" is param 18:05 webdesigner97 great! thx 18:06 kaeza or even better 18:06 kaeza minetest.chatcommands.foo.fonc("bar", "baz") 18:07 webdesigner97 fonc? 18:07 kaeza (if "foo" is a valid Lua identifier) 18:07 kaeza func* 18:07 Telek Thanks Vanessa! :) 18:07 * Telek afks for a bit. 18:07 VanessaE np 18:07 webdesigner97 So if i use 'minetest.chatcommands[result:get_player_name()].func("sethome", "")', I can manipulate result's homepos? Great! 18:08 kaeza ehh no 18:08 kaeza minetest.chatcommands["sethome"].func(result:get_player_name(), "") 18:09 webdesigner97 oops 18:09 kaeza (ideally, all mods would profive commands as API calls, and the chatcommand would parse user input and call API accordingly) 18:09 kaeza blah 18:09 kaeza provide* 18:11 Jordach hahaha netsplit 18:12 VanessaE Zeg9: can you release an update for that steel mod that uses softdepend to detect the streets mod (and alias the metal strut to streets "steel frame")? 18:14 khonkhortisan http://postimg.org/image/dfhqj8c1f/ is what is created when the wield, shield, and armor are placed on the skin. If any of these things are a different resolution, they will not fit correctly into their uv-mapped areas. What is needed is a scaling version of ^[combine that increases the sizes of both the image and the blit (LCD) to put images of any size in the correct areas of the uv map. 18:15 Zeg9 VanessaE: sorry I have to go, cant do it now :/ 18:15 VanessaE well not right now 18:15 Zeg9 I'll add it to my TODO list 18:15 Zeg9 bye all 18:22 webdesigner97 gtg now, bye :) 18:33 kaeza lol "check tubes for kittens" 18:34 Exio saw it 18:34 Exio laughed too 18:50 Jordach did i just survive a netsplit 18:54 * PilzAdam just wrote textures instead of topics in the forum 18:59 sfan5 PilzAdam: don't respond to people who bump topics 20:07 sfan5 oh god! this s/the cloud/my butt/ extension is just hilarious 20:10 PilzAdam sfan5, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/753 20:10 * khonkhortisan can't compose a gnaborretni 20:13 sfan5 PilzAdam: I was just going to fix the memory leaks 20:13 sfan5 ... 20:14 sfan5 PilzAdam: its base64 encoded 20:23 STHGOM who can help me with a greifer on redcrab.suret.net port 30031? 20:24 Jordach is that the 0.3.1 server 20:24 STHGOM an entire village got griefed 20:24 STHGOM yes 20:25 Jordach i might have ban perms 20:26 Calinou I'll break YOUR pipes 20:27 Calinou had to reconnect to fix netsplit 20:35 STHGOM i will start making repairs 20:42 sfan5 good night 20:44 MinerofLands wasssup peepz 20:44 STHGOM hi 20:59 MinerofLands !up mt.planetminetest.com 20:59 MinetestBot mt.planetminetest.com:30000 is up (591ms) 20:59 kaeza anyone? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93353#p93353 20:59 kaeza hey Miner 21:00 MinerofLands hey kaeza :D 21:04 thexyz why did he remove it? 21:09 kaeza dunno 21:09 kaeza but the money mod is not the same as nodex 21:09 MinerofLands have you tried the internet time machine? 21:09 MinerofLands google it 21:09 MinerofLands might have it 21:09 kaeza ah that might work 21:10 kaeza inb4 ompldr link 21:10 MinerofLands no it doesnt exist lol 21:10 Calinou wb Taoki :P 21:10 MinerofLands it just shows the recent one 21:10 MinerofLands http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4598 21:11 Taoki thanks 21:11 kaeza yep :( 21:11 kaeza hello Taoki 21:11 Calinou Taoki, xonotic 0.7 will be released soon 21:11 Taoki ok 21:11 Calinou I translated stuntrally 3 days ago... 21:11 Calinou ...and now I'm doing xonotic 21:11 Calinou ._. 21:11 thexyz what the fuck happened with omploader? 21:11 Calinou thexyz, no idea 21:12 Calinou but it looks like *cough*google*cough* or something like that doesn't like it :) 21:12 Calinou or the ompldr admins are just on a shortage of money 21:13 thexyz google? 21:15 Calinou by google, I mean some random big website 21:15 Calinou "or something like that" 21:15 Calinou let's say "mediafire & co" 21:16 MinerofLands well Avast flagged it like a month ago 21:16 MinerofLands for containing virus...maybe its related to that 21:19 kaeza thexyz could make a minetest-centric file hoster on files.minetest.net 21:19 * kaeza runs 21:19 MinerofLands lol 21:20 MinerofLands we can use this 21:20 MinerofLands http://dropitto.me/ 21:20 MinerofLands create a minetest dropbox account 21:21 MinerofLands and use that 21:21 kaeza dropbox blocks your account if there's too much traffic 21:21 kaeza it's in their TOS 21:22 MinerofLands ahh i see 21:22 MinerofLands or you could rent out a cloud server 21:23 MinerofLands or you can just use "unlimited" hosting 21:24 thexyz kaeza: what if one day I disappear? 21:24 thexyz with all those files ^^ 21:25 kaeza ^ what happened with ompldr 21:26 MinerofLands ^ minus.com 21:33 Calinou dropbox blocks your account if there's too much traffic 21:34 Calinou it is unlikely for your account to have a too high traffic 21:34 Calinou only Vattic has the power to do that :P 21:34 Calinou even if you get 5000 downloads/day I doubt it would be blocked 21:34 Calinou you can always try and see :P 21:34 MinerofLands thats what i said but i always get shot down? 21:34 MinerofLands :( 21:35 kaeza well, bleh 21:35 kaeza do it :) 21:35 MinerofLands still thats up to xyz lol 21:35 MinerofLands i think 21:36 thexyz it seems limit is 20gb/day for dropbox 21:36 thexyz for a single link 21:36 Calinou still quite a lot 21:36 Calinou unless it is Gb and not GB :P 21:37 kaeza still 20Gb is quite a lot for the average MT mod 21:37 kaeza the only ones that are truly big are in github anyway 21:39 Calinou like *cough*more blocks*cough* 21:40 kaeza Uberi is another 21:40 kaeza oop 21:40 kaeza s 21:40 * kaeza hides 21:41 Uberi o/ 22:04 Uberi AHHH GITHUB IS DOWN 22:04 Uberi oh wait never mind 22:08 STHGOM bye 22:08 kaeza YEAH! 22:08 kaeza another user banned 22:08 thexyz ? 22:08 STHGOM O_o 22:08 kaeza my serv 22:08 kaeza too much griefing -.- 22:09 STHGOM what is your serv? 22:09 kaeza it's in the public list 22:10 MinerofLands why isnt mine in the public list :( 22:12 Calinou MinerofLands, you must announce it as "public" using minetest.conf settings 22:14 MinerofLands kk...ill edit the config later 22:14 MinerofLands calinou do you like me now :d 22:15 Calinou no. 22:15 MinerofLands :( 22:15 MinerofLands why 22:15 MinerofLands i thought we were cool 22:15 MinerofLands :D 22:15 MinerofLands i thought we were homeboyz/roaddoggs/g's 22:30 Calinou night 22:30 MinerofLands goodnight 22:33 * VanessaE_ is back. yay. 22:33 Uberi *a wild VanessaE_ has appeared* 22:33 VanessaE_ heh 22:40 khonkhortisan At the risk of a floating point exception, I've created a scaling version of [combine, which I've called [map, short for uv map. 22:41 khonkhortisan tiles = "default_dirt.png^[map:0,0,0.5,0.5=default_sand.png" will create sand in the corner of dirt 22:41 Uberi whoa 22:45 khonkhortisan http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=10e0e79 23:04 GroundRaiser hey 23:04 Uberi o/ 23:05 GroundRaiser anyone there 23:06 Uberi nope 23:06 Uberi not me, I'm just a bot 23:06 VanessaE_ nope, we're all asleep 23:06 VanessaE_ *handwave* These are not the chatters you are looking for. 23:06 GroundRaiser Oh lol well I should leave I guess 23:07 GroundRaiser *starts to walk away* 23:07 VanessaE_ lol 23:08 GroundRaiser so how are you VanessaE 23:08 VanessaE_ I'm okay 23:09 GroundRaiser thats good and I am honestly confused with a few things 23:09 VanessaE_ so what's up? 23:10 GroundRaiser well I am trying to install mods and I seem to not understand it 23:10 cprofitt VanessaE_: are you here? 23:10 VanessaE_ hi 23:10 cprofitt I am having an issue with the dyes working -- they show 'unknown' items in the craft guide 23:10 VanessaE_ cprofitt: you mean unified dyes? 23:10 cprofitt and it appears I am missing the simple mod 'dye' though I have unified dyes 23:10 VanessaE_ oh 23:11 VanessaE_ yeah, the 'dye' mod is part of minetest_game 23:11 VanessaE_ (formerly, 'common') 23:11 cprofitt got it 23:11 cprofitt world.mt issue then 23:12 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: installing mods is pretty easy really, all you have to do is download, unzip the mod, rename the folder to just the real name of the mod (e.g. VanessaE-homedecor-43642736423 --> homedecor), and copy the result to your minetest mods folder. Then enable it in the "Configure" screen for the world you want to put it in. 23:12 cprofitt forgot that when I load new mods for the first time I have to go edit that file 23:12 VanessaE_ cprofitt: or do that ^^^ 23:12 GroundRaiser Okay let me try that then 23:12 cprofitt its a dedicated server with no GUI 23:12 VanessaE_ once you've done it a couple of times, it makes perfect sense. 23:13 cprofitt not sure I can access the configure screen 23:13 VanessaE_ cprofitt: ah, see I run a custom game on my server, so I never have to mess with world.mt 23:13 VanessaE_ new mods just automatically work 23:13 GroundRaiser there is nothing in the config file... 23:13 cprofitt I should learn how to do that at some point 23:14 cprofitt darn... dyes are still showing unknown item 23:14 GroundRaiser when I try to configure it.... there arent any mods in my thing 23:14 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: nono, not the configuration file. In the main menu. Select the world you want to run the mod in, then hit the "Configure" button 23:14 GroundRaiser No no 23:14 GroundRaiser I understand that 23:14 GroundRaiser thats what I mean 23:14 VanessaE_ cprofitt: are you sure your copy of UD is entirely up to date? 23:14 VanessaE_ it depends on latest minetest_game now 23:14 GroundRaiser is there anything else I need to do? 23:14 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: can you show a screenshot of your directory tree where your example mods are stored? 23:15 GroundRaiser ummm ya 23:15 cprofitt VanessaE_: yes, your unified dies are loading properly 23:15 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it is probably a simple matter of having put them into the wrong folder - that changed recently. 23:15 cprofitt it might be an issue of something with the craft guide... 23:15 VanessaE_ cprofitt: which items are showing as unknown? 23:15 GroundRaiser how do I take a screenshot 23:15 cprofitt I have two pages with dye on it in the craft guide... 23:16 Uberi F12 I believe 23:17 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: you'll have to use your Printscreen key if you're not in the game (F12 doesn't work inside of menus/formspecs) 23:18 cprofitt it is the first page with dyes -- looks like it might be remnants of your old unified dies mod 23:18 GroundRaiser let me try something 23:18 VanessaE_ cprofitt: I can't even begin to guess what the issue is.. These are unknown ITEMS, or are the textures are just missing? 23:18 cprofitt not sure how to clear old stuff from the craft guide 23:18 cprofitt in craft guide they just say unknown items 23:18 VanessaE_ strange 23:18 VanessaE_ I've never used Craft Guide 23:19 * VanessaE_ checks unified inventory's version 23:19 GroundRaiser how do i put it on here for you 23:19 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: upload it to some place like imgur or flickr or so and post the link 23:19 cprofitt I fixed it with a reboot of the server after clearing craft guide of any output 23:20 VanessaE_ cprofitt: is your version of UD the one that uses bottles, or the one that uses little piles of powder? 23:20 VanessaE_ oh ok 23:20 cprofitt little piles of powder -- both of them 23:20 VanessaE_ ok 23:20 VanessaE_ that's the current one 23:20 VanessaE_ hm, HDX's texture for light grey dye is screwed up. 23:21 cprofitt looks like wool is messed up now 23:22 GroundRaiser http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/screenshotmy.png/ 23:24 cprofitt what mod does wool come from? 23:24 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: how recent is that copy of minetest? is that 0.4.6-release? or is it from git? 23:24 VanessaE_ cprofitt: minetest_game/wool 23:25 GroundRaiser its 4.6 23:25 VanessaE_ no, it's 0.4.6 23:25 VanessaE_ that's the problem 23:25 VanessaE_ move your mods to minetest-0.4.6-2/mods/minetest 23:25 VanessaE_ this will change with 0.4.7, but for now, put them there. 23:25 GroundRaiser i had them there too and nothing happened 23:25 VanessaE_ try anyway :) 23:25 VanessaE_ put them there, then go try to enable them 23:26 VanessaE_ do you have minetest-0.4.6-2/games/minetest_game ? 23:26 GroundRaiser still nothing 23:26 GroundRaiser yes I have that 23:26 VanessaE_ show me a screenshot of your world list, with the world you're trying to play highlighted (the green bar) 23:27 GroundRaiser which folder do i put it in 23:27 codedevil hi 23:27 codedevil VanessaE_: no traffic on you server? 23:27 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: in 0.4.6-release, they go in minetestfolder/mods/minetest e.g. minetestfolder/mods/minetest/technic 23:27 GroundRaiser minetest-0.4.6-2/games/mintest_game/mods? or the mods folder? 23:28 GroundRaiser well it isnt working for any of my worlds 23:28 VanessaE_ you can put them in minetest_game/mods if you want, that'll usually work too, but it's the wrong way to do it 23:28 GroundRaiser the wrong way how? 23:28 VanessaE_ codedevil: my server doesn't get much play time anyway 23:28 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it's not the official "right" way is all. 23:30 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: the official way to install a mod is to put in minetest-0.4.x-blah/mods/minetest for 0.4.6-release or older, or minetest-blah/mods for anything newer than ~2 weeks ago I guess. 23:30 GroundRaiser ... 23:30 GroundRaiser its not working either way 23:31 VanessaE_ http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods 23:31 VanessaE_ try this. 23:31 Uberi so where do the incense and candles come in? or have I been installing mods all wrong? 23:31 GroundRaiser i have looked through all of that 23:31 VanessaE_ this is the official word on the subject :) 23:31 GroundRaiser thats what I tried 23:32 VanessaE_ ok, now looking at the folder names I do notice that "TNT" is written in uppercase - this is wrong. Mod names are always lowercase 23:32 GroundRaiser guess it just wont work on mine.... 23:32 VanessaE_ nono 23:32 GroundRaiser the other ones wont work either though 23:33 VanessaE_ ok, let's start over 23:33 VanessaE_ you posted: http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5305/screenshotmy.png 23:33 VanessaE_ this is wrong for starters. 23:33 GroundRaiser okay 23:33 VanessaE_ move money and technic into that minetest folder that's above them 23:33 VanessaE_ delete TNT for now 23:33 Uberi put everything not named minetest into minetest 23:33 GroundRaiser they are in that folder 23:34 VanessaE_ show me a current screenshot then :) 23:34 Uberi can you give us another screenshot? 23:34 GroundRaiser why do I need a screen shot when they are in there? 23:34 VanessaE_ so we can see the overall layout 23:36 GroundRaiser http://i.imgur.com/Wt9mjBS.png 23:37 Uberi excellent 23:37 GroundRaiser ya,,,, still doesnt work 23:37 Uberi I also suggest Mesecons and Worldedit after you get it working :) 23:38 GroundRaiser Ya I have seen the mesecons and it is pretty cool as well but havent seen worldedit 23:39 Uberi you'll really enjoy it if you do a lot of building 23:39 VanessaE_ now here's a question 23:39 VanessaE_ why are there two minetest-0.4.6-w folders? 23:40 VanessaE_ er 0.4.6-2 23:40 GroundRaiser which mod has the crafting guide? 23:40 VanessaE_ you've got minetest-0.4.6-2/minetest-0.4.6-2/mods/minetest/technic (and so forth) 23:40 VanessaE_ are you sure you're even in the right directory for this? What is the contents of that top-most directory? 23:40 GroundRaiser idk... thats how it came when I downloaded the game 23:41 VanessaE_ that's where the problem is, I'm sure of it 23:41 VanessaE_ you should not have two directories like that 23:41 kaeza as long as there's minetest-0.4.6-2/minetest-0.4.6-2/bin/minetest.exe, everything should work ok 23:42 kaeza but yes 23:42 GroundRaiser I changed it and there is just one directory now 23:42 VanessaE_ kaeza: unless he's executing minetest-0.4.6-2/bin/minetest.exe 23:42 kaeza NEVER use 'Extract archive on own folder' of any archiving program 23:42 VanessaE_ in which case he will never see the mods because they're one directory further down 23:42 GroundRaiser I use that to run the game 23:42 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: which one - his or mine? 23:43 khonkhortisan Only create a folder if there isn't a toplevel one 23:43 VanessaE_ with one or two minetest-0.4.6-2/ in the path? 23:43 GroundRaiser I use /bin/minetest.exe 23:43 GroundRaiser there is only one of them 23:43 VanessaE_ I need to see an 'ls -lR' of his tree, what's the windows equivalent to that? 23:43 GroundRaiser should I just delete everything and reinstall mintest? 23:43 kaeza tree 23:44 kaeza (not sure if it's still supported though) 23:44 kahrl alternatively: dir /s 23:44 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it might be best to just delete all copies of minetest and start from scratch 23:44 Exio i need df -h 23:44 Exio ho2 :3 23:44 GroundRaiser alright I will do that really quick 23:44 Exio how2* 23:44 kaeza del C:\Windows\System32 23:45 VanessaE_ nooooooo 23:45 GroundRaiser um no 23:45 GroundRaiser that is retarded 23:45 khonkhortisan ok, just checking. 23:45 VanessaE_ download, unzip but don't try to create a new folder (just let it have the folder it normally extracts into), then install one mod (say, money) 23:45 kahrl move c:\boot\bzImage c:\ntldr 23:46 Exio kahrl: del c:\bin\bash 23:46 Exio :D 23:46 kaeza Exio, nope 23:46 kaeza C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe 23:47 kaeza (or alternatively del C:\MinGW\bin\bash.exe 23:47 kaeza ) 23:48 Exio it is a joke 23:48 VanessaE_ holy shit 23:48 GroundRaiser sorry for being so much trouble 23:48 * VanessaE_ watches her rollback log go batshit insane 23:49 VanessaE_ codedevil: what precisely did you just do? 23:49 codedevil VanessaE_: what's up with the server 23:49 kaeza GroundRaiser, no need to be sorry 23:49 codedevil I 0wnd your server maybe? :P 23:49 codedevil is it hanged or something? world stop updating 23:49 GroundRaiser oh okay and its almost extracted 23:50 codedevil VanessaE_: I made water&lava tower, why? 23:50 VanessaE_ restarted the server, without the rollback log, it's more trouble that it's worth 23:51 codedevil we found a bug? 23:51 VanessaE_ sign back in plz 23:52 codedevil ok 23:52 VanessaE_ wtf? 23:53 Uberi water and lava can get pretty slow in certain cases 23:53 VanessaE_ jesus, no wonder the server stalled out 23:54 VanessaE_ it seems fine now without rollback running 23:54 MinerofLands VanessaE_ why not install "lavamod" it doesnt allow lava to be placed over y = 0 23:56 VanessaE_ meh 23:56 GroundRaiser Okay 23:56 VanessaE_ how about someone fix the CPU usage of that code instead? 23:56 MinerofLands there is none 23:56 Uberi VanessaE_: it's rollback related, you say? 23:57 GroundRaiser http://i.imgur.com/z5hqlbk.png 23:57 VanessaE_ Uberi: if I disable rollback, this doesn't cause the server to lag nearly as hard (but it's still using 100% CPU just to move a few hundred liquid blocks around 23:57 GroundRaiser what do i do now 23:57 Uberi VanessaE_: finite liquid? 23:57 VanessaE_ no 23:57 VanessaE_ regular infinite liquids 23:57 Uberi can you WE schem it and gimme a test case? 23:58 khonkhortisan Can't they make lava not flow sideways on air? 23:58 VanessaE_ Uberi: if I could save this out I would, but the server's lagging hard now 23:58 kaeza GroundRaiser, rename xxx-pipewors-xxx to just pipeworks 23:58 kaeza err 23:59 kaeza pipeworks-master 23:59 GroundRaiser what? 23:59 codedevil Im imooortaaaaal 23:59 codedevil is this another bug? 23:59 kaeza GroundRaiser, rename pipeworks-master to just pipeworks 23:59 VanessaE_ codedevil: same bug. you triggered a horribly inefficient piece of code in the server. 23:59 GroundRaiser same for all of them? 23:59 Uberi codedevil: can you describe the issue?