Time Nick Message 01:10 Menche i installed simple mobs but nothing seems to be spawning 01:10 Menche i know it was loaded because i spawnentity'd a few mobs 01:11 Menche haven't seen *anything* spawn naturally 01:12 Menche wait, scratch that, a few things just spawned. they're the first in an hour 01:16 tjbarber another stupid question for you guys ;P how do I get the names of all the nodes? (dirt, steelblock, wood, etc) 01:16 tjbarber I'm looking for the black wool one. 01:17 Menche black wool would be wool:black 01:17 tgs3 is wool in by default? 01:17 tgs3 or mods 01:17 Menche wool is in default 01:17 tjbarber ah wool:black. thanks. So is there a list of these somewhere? 01:18 Menche could search for "register_node" in the mod .lua files 01:19 Menche gtg 01:20 tjbarber ok thanks 01:47 Jordach <- has insecurities 01:50 Jordach VanessaE, you here 01:51 Kacey we all do... 01:51 Jordach Kacey, my school exams are coming up 01:52 Kacey school is about to end for me 01:55 Jordach theres an apparent big cat running around my part of the UK 01:56 Jordach I JUST HEARD THE FUCKER ON MY DOORSTEP 01:56 Jordach the gravel crunched, but did not give the normal footstep sound 01:59 Kacey http://imgur.com/csyeg20 changed my font on my client... 01:59 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/csyeg20.png better link 02:00 Jordach Kacey, im having a panic attack 02:00 FreeFull Kacey: Funny, the program that font came from used IRC 02:00 Kacey i must go to bed now 02:03 Jordach i've got this: http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?s=d675527bda4c7ce0d10c62c2d9df7b05&p=387936&postcount=2 02:10 * Menche is standing on a dirt monster's (simple mobs) head 02:10 Menche it's not moving :P 02:10 Menche the ai seems to freeze up all the time 02:10 * Menche gets bored and pummels it to death with a tree trunk 02:22 * Jordach put some white noise on 02:30 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L912 02:39 Jordach hah 02:41 FreeFull Voodoo 02:45 Exio how to solve all the problems: 02:46 Exio BLACK MAGIC 03:44 * VanessaE is back 03:44 VanessaE (for a short while) 04:28 VanessaE *sigh* damn griefers 04:39 VanessaE wtf? 04:39 VanessaE worldedit's //fixlight command isn't working properly anymore 04:56 sfan5 hi 04:56 sfan5 VanessaE: it works fine for me 05:08 VanessaE sfan5: not for me, either that or the server is taking forever (read: greater than 20 minutes) to show me the results 05:10 VanessaE and FOR FUCK SAKE can someone PLEASE make falling sand/gravel/etc NOT IMMORTAL!? 05:10 VanessaE this shit with sand/gravel getting stuck in mid-air and being unkillable is getting OLD. 05:10 sfan5 -> github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/new 05:10 VanessaE waste of time. 05:11 kahrl when are they getting stuck? I've never seen that 05:12 VanessaE kahrl: it happens randomly. try setting a large region of them with worldedit, say 50 x 1 x 50, fig one corner to make them fall 05:12 VanessaE many of the falling entities will get stuck in mid-air 05:12 VanessaE this bug has existed for as long as I've been playing 05:13 VanessaE dig* 05:14 VanessaE they'll look like they've already landed but haven't. 05:15 kahrl okay since I don't have worldedit here I just built a huge sand pillar and dug the bottom node 05:15 kahrl seems the one that was just outside the active block range got stuck 05:16 kahrl even after I moved up to get it into the active block range 05:16 kahrl it somehow got unstuck after a while 05:17 VanessaE these persist forever until I /clearobjects 05:17 kahrl hmm 05:19 VanessaE (which will probably kill my machine, it makes the server take horrendous amounts of RAM (10+ GB for a small 400 MB map) 05:19 VanessaE sorry to be bitter but some of this shit has hung around for way too long now 05:20 Menche i can't run clearobjects on mine anymore, it crashes it without removing anything 05:30 VanessaE 13GB now, and still going 05:30 VanessaE I "only" have 16Gb of RAM 05:32 sfan5 VanessaE: I only have 4GB :( 05:32 sfan5 I can't play Minecraft flawelessy with that 05:32 sfan5 4GB is enough for hosting 2 minetest servers and running the minetest Client, but not for MC 05:33 kahrl I made that 50x1x50 area of (floating) sand and dug a corner but I didn't get any stuck entities 05:34 kahrl on the other hand one of the mapblocks that contained the sand didn't get sent to the client after it was updated 05:35 kahrl (I'm walking on the floating sand right now. It already fell and is visible on the ground too) 05:35 VanessaE told you. 05:36 VanessaE crashed my machine once it got up to about 14GB of usage 05:36 VanessaE and nothing was deleted. 05:46 VanessaE let's try this again...this time with an extra 16GB of swap available (I usually run without any) 06:19 khonkhortisan VanessaE, you saw the lava machine NE of the spawn? 06:20 VanessaE yeah, I'mn still cleaning up the lighting from it. 06:20 VanessaE I've already removed it and cleaned up the damage 06:20 VanessaE yay, fixlight finally worked 06:20 khonkhortisan The frames went right through an owned area 06:21 khonkhortisan Can anyone run fixlight or only people with worldedit? 06:21 VanessaE worldedit. 06:21 khonkhortisan ok 08:04 VanessaE bbl 09:15 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2028052013%20-%2011%3A14%3A10.png 09:15 Calinou phoenix education? phoronix education! 10:15 rubenwardy Hi all 10:15 Jordach another silly blender render coming up 10:22 Jordach really 10:23 Calinou Jordach: halo 3 with minetest player instead of mr. halo? 10:23 Calinou SO PRO 10:24 Jordach \o/ 10:24 Jordach Calinou, ding! 10:24 Jordach idea 10:24 Jordach actually 10:24 Jordach Halo supports uploading screenshots 10:25 markveidemanis Hi 10:26 markveidemanis Umm...PING 10:26 Calinou ping? 10:26 Calinou /ping tells your ping time to server 10:26 markveidemanis Type PONG to reply, its like the IRC protocol 10:26 Calinou no 10:27 Calinou (except if you want to be quieted again) 10:33 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/DDD6Wmy 10:35 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92145#p92145 10:36 markveidemanis ?^ 10:46 ImQ009 Jordach, Hands look weird 10:46 ImQ009 A bit too long maybe? 10:47 markveidemanis Is there client side mods yet? 10:48 Jordach nope 10:51 arsdragonfly hands look like bread to me:P 10:55 Jordach black trace lines: http://i.imgur.com/KffYnhp.jpg 10:55 Jordach if in doubt, check the file name in gimp 11:03 markveidemanis Jordach: HOW? 11:03 Jordach look at the task bar 11:04 markveidemanis ?? 11:09 markveidemanis Oh i get it 11:10 markveidemanis Windows? 11:51 Jordach PilzAdam, does adding v6_jungles to mg_flags add jungles 11:51 PilzAdam ooops 11:51 PilzAdam forgot something 11:51 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:51 PilzAdam Jordach, yes 11:59 Jordach PilzAdam, make a chess mod by using formspec 12:01 markveidemanis that alter the chesspieces in thw world? 12:02 PilzAdam markveidemanis, who unmuted you? 12:02 markveidemanis YOu 12:03 PilzAdam nope 12:04 Jordach dammit Calinou 12:04 Jordach * Calinou removes ban on *!56853496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.133.52.150 12:04 Jordach * Calinou sets mode -q on #minetest *!56853496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.133.52.150 12:04 Jordach * Calinou sets mode -q on #minetest markveidemanis*!*@* 12:04 Jordach suck it ShadowBot 12:05 * Jordach puts a kitten on MinetestBot 12:15 sfan5 hi 12:15 MinetestBot Jordach: meow 12:16 * Jordach puts another kitten on MinetestBot 12:16 MinetestBot Jordach: meow² 12:17 Calinou meow³ 12:17 MinetestBot I don't think there is much more place for another kitten... 12:18 markveidemanis http://ifunny.mobi/p/RdiHpzc11 lol 12:19 Calinou I'd rather click on youtube links 12:20 PilzAdam !title http://ifunny.mobi/p/RdiHpzc11 12:20 MinetestBot PilzAdam: There is always a way / iFunny :) 12:21 sfan5 markveidemanis: USB stick -> PS/2 Mouse -> VGA -> DVI -> [something different] -> device 12:21 sfan5 that won't work 12:21 sfan5 http://minetest.net 12:21 sfan5 !title 12:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest 12:21 sfan5 ^ PilzAdam: you also use it like this 12:21 PilzAdam !title 12:21 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Minetest 12:22 PilzAdam so it always uses the last seen URL? 12:22 markveidemanis !up 127.0.0.1 12:22 markveidemanis ShadowBot: Hi 12:22 PilzAdam markveidemanis, the bots ignore you 12:23 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes 12:23 sfan5 !up 127.0.0.1 30001 12:23 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30001 is up (97ms) 12:23 sfan5 ^ markveidemanis 12:24 markveidemanis http://cheezburger.com/7509773056 12:27 sfan5 !title 12:27 MinetestBot sfan5: Y U NO REMOVE ME FROM IGNORE LIST - Cheezburger 12:27 sfan5 you kidding 12:27 sfan5 !kick markveidemanis no! 12:28 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes: 12:32 Jordach [off] if markv posts a link, dont !title it 12:35 Calinou for those who said raspi was fast: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3OTc 12:36 Calinou 11,5 times slower on RAW to PPM image conversion than a P4 12:37 thexyz who ever would say that 12:37 Calinou people who made the raspi? 12:41 FreeFull A P4 sure eats a lot more power though 12:43 Exio Calinou: price / performance, performance / watt, *etc* 12:43 Exio like most ARM devices :P 12:43 Exio they are super-cheap and have a super-low power usage 12:43 Exio as a super-low performance :D 12:45 sfan5 aah! so much sticky stuff in general discussion 12:45 * Exio sticks sfan5 12:46 * Calinou sticks Exio 12:46 * sfan5 can't move 12:47 sfan5 things that make my smile: googling "minetest nuke mod" 12:48 markveidemanis I have a mod request for an advanced coder 12:48 markveidemanis Computercraft with digilines 12:49 markveidemanis or just make lordcirth/digicode/terminal + digilines +computercraft items 12:50 PilzAdam !g minetest nuke mod 12:50 MinetestBot PilzAdam: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=638 12:51 PilzAdam "Sound License: Unknown" wut? 12:54 Exio what is license of the output of /dev/urandom >:D 12:55 sfan5 Exio: linux 12:57 Exio what if i don't use linux ;P 12:57 sfan5 then you don't have /dev/urandom 12:58 * Exio slaps sfan5 with a netbsd iso 12:58 * sfan5 falls down the cliff he was standing on 13:01 sfan5 !seen sdzen 13:01 MinetestBot sfan5: sdzen was last seen at 2013-05-25 19:54:56 UTC on #minetest 13:05 * PilzAdam plays with the nuke mod in a flat world and listens to Battlefield Bad Company 2 Vietnam soundtrack 13:09 Jordach aah! so much sticky stuff in general discussion 13:09 Jordach lol 13:19 sfan5 ‮ 13:27 sfan5 * RainbowDashh left (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 13:27 sfan5 ^ adverising at its finest 13:27 sfan5 *advertising 13:28 markveidemanis who can guess the word: mine[guess] really? 13:28 sfan5 yep 13:28 sfan5 the word was "mineshaft" 13:29 markveidemanis well, what else could it be? :) 13:29 sfan5 dunno 13:32 rubenwardy nice, there is a user group called "developer" 13:33 sfan5 !seen erlehmann 13:33 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen erlehmann around. 13:33 artur99 hi 13:33 artur99 are minetest servers on anymore? 13:34 sfan5 !server players:most 13:34 MinetestBot sfan5: Sky | 80.240.216.69:30010 | Clients: 4/100 | Version: 0.4.6 sky | ping: 0.158 13:34 sfan5 ^ this 13:34 sfan5 !server 13:34 MinetestBot sfan5: Sky | 80.240.216.69:30010 | Clients: 4/100 | Version: 0.4.6 sky | ping: 0.158 13:34 artur99 i cant access europe.minetest.org 13:34 sfan5 !up europe.minetest.org 13:34 rubenwardy It would be cool if there was senior members (over 1000 posts) 13:34 MinetestBot europe.minetest.org:30000 seems to be down 13:34 sfan5 ^ artur99 13:34 artur99 and i cant access minetest.org port 30004 too 13:35 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30004 13:35 MinetestBot minetest.org:30004 seems to be down 13:36 artur99 i couldnt access europe.minetest.org for 2-3 months 13:37 sfan5 you have to talk to oldcoder about that 13:39 markveidemanis How does the email system on redcrab work? 13:40 artur99 when is oldcoder on? 13:42 sfan5 artur99: just wait for hum 13:42 sfan5 markveidemanis: ask redcrab 13:43 markveidemanis Anyone here want to build a jail? 13:43 markveidemanis Or an undercover facility 13:44 artur99 mod or building? 13:45 artur99 jail mod, or a building made by blocks 13:45 artur99 !up minetest.org 30000 13:45 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 is up (224ms) 13:45 artur99 !up minetest.org 30001 13:45 MinetestBot minetest.org:30001 is up (294ms) 13:50 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92177#p92177 13:50 Jordach sfan5, ^ 13:50 sfan5 Jordach: Niiiiiccceee!! 13:51 Jordach sfan5, i like making these renders 13:53 Jordach sfan5, it seems that i might end up as the resident artist 14:05 markveidemanis Jordach: make a minetest player render sitting down, doing paperwork 14:05 markveidemanis or he should be, he is [something minetest related] 14:06 Jordach im trying to shape a mese pick in blender 14:08 artur99 how to make a crafting guide? 14:12 artur99 !server mods:most 14:12 MinetestBot artur99: No results 14:12 artur99 !server players:most 14:12 MinetestBot artur99: Sfan5's Survival Server | 5.175.144.3:30001 | Clients: 4/15 | Version: 0.4.6 game | ping: 0.107 14:12 sfan5 :O 14:13 sfan5 !help 14:13 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 14:13 sfan5 ^ artur99: you can find all commands there 14:13 artur99 a, ok. Thanks! 14:15 artur99 !seen OldCoder 14:15 MinetestBot artur99: oldcoder was last seen at 2013-05-27 14:32:08 UTC on #minetest 14:22 rubenwardy !server players:least 14:22 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Spanish Server | 198.211.125.161 | Clients: 0/50 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.127 14:25 Jordach heres something interesting about both player models 14:25 Jordach the hat layer will always be black in blender. 14:27 basilgohar I was just trying to build minetest from git on my old server, and I ran into this compilation error: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/14982/ 14:28 basilgohar Does anyone have a clue as to what might be the problem? 14:28 basilgohar It very well could be ancient libraries on my ancient server...but I'm not sure which ones. 14:28 sfan5 !g ‘atof’ was not declared in this scope 14:28 MinetestBot sfan5: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12558048/what-i-need-to-declare-in-this-scope 14:29 sfan5 basilgohar: try adding "#include " at the top of /home/basilgohar/src/minetest/src/util/string.h 14:37 basilgohar sfan5: Thanks, that seems to have worked. Build completed and server executable ran successfully! 14:38 basilgohar I wonder if that's just because I'm running Fedora 13 (ancient!) on this machine. 14:38 basilgohar Is that not a build issue for anyone else? 14:38 basilgohar For what it's worth, I ran cmake with -DBUILD_CLIENT=0, since I was only interested in a server configuration. 14:42 basilgohar Ah...crashed when I tried to connect...:p 14:43 PilzAdam then Minetest does what its supposed to do :-p 14:43 basilgohar http://paste.fedoraproject.org/14989/13697522/ 14:44 PilzAdam basilgohar, is it reproduceable? 14:44 basilgohar Let me try again and find out... 14:45 basilgohar Okay, now the *client* just crashed as I tried to connect. 14:46 PilzAdam Minetest usually is more fun if you like to play arround with software and dont really want it to work ;-) 14:46 basilgohar Well, happened a second time for me: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/14992/75238913/ 14:46 basilgohar PilzAdam: I'm a web developer myself, and I'm used to compiling software, so this I don't mind. 14:47 basilgohar I'm just not very good a debugging, but I can follow directions. :) 14:47 basilgohar I had it running just fine a VPS running CentOS, this is the first time I'm trying to get it to work on my old Fedora server. 14:47 basilgohar *on 14:48 basilgohar I want to drop the VPS and just use my main server. 14:48 basilgohar Here's the output when it crashed the second time: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/14992/75238913/ 14:49 PilzAdam do you run a new world? 14:50 basilgohar Yes, I was trying to run a new world. 14:50 basilgohar I just set this up. 14:51 PilzAdam maybe it works with a world where a player already joined, dunno 14:51 basilgohar My local minetest is from git a few days ago, I will try to update that first. 14:51 PilzAdam its just a guess 14:51 basilgohar Ah, no updates since then. 14:58 PilzAdam ehm, "WARNING: system-wide share not found at "/usr/local/share/minetest"" 14:58 PilzAdam did you run "make install"? 14:59 basilgohar More verbose output from minetestserver: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/14995/53150136/ 14:59 basilgohar PilzAdam: Uhhh.... 14:59 * basilgohar scampers 15:01 basilgohar Is that needed with -DRUN_IN_PLACE? 15:02 basilgohar It still is trying to install something to /usr/local... 15:04 PilzAdam have you compiled with "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1"? 15:04 PilzAdam then its not needed 15:21 BlockMen hi 15:22 PilzAdam sup 15:23 BlockMen the ceiling? 15:24 Jordach the ksy 15:24 Jordach sky 15:28 BlockMen Jordach, strange house :P dont you like roofs? 15:28 Jordach BlockMen, glass ceiling 15:28 basilgohar Okay, so I recompiled on the server, and now, instead of crashing, I get a completely grey world. No visible blocks. 15:28 BlockMen well, thats a ceiling too :D 15:30 Jordach more cheesy puns: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92193#p92193 15:30 Jordach sfan5, ^ 15:31 sfan5 Jordach: nice, but you cut the pistols 15:31 Jordach thats a gimp bug with rotations 15:32 Jordach its also visible on the halo 3 covwer 15:32 Jordach cover* 15:32 Jordach sfan5, you clearly went overthe cheesy pun 15:32 Jordach hey Calinou 15:33 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92177#p92177 <- Calinou 15:33 sfan5 Jordach: you mean the Block ops thing? 15:33 Jordach yes 15:33 sfan5 I saw that at first sight 15:33 Jordach bad pun is a bad pun 15:33 sfan5 Already expected that 15:34 Jordach ow fuck 15:34 Jordach i just hiccuped and pulled my neck 15:34 * Jordach felt the vertebrae moving 15:35 Jordach PilzAdam, imposter: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=4376 15:35 basilgohar PilzAdam: The crashing seems to be happening when I have a minetest.conf on the server, 15:36 basilgohar The first time it crashed, I'd setup my own user as the admin user. 15:36 Jordach basilgohar, do you have read and write perms 15:36 basilgohar The second time, I was playing around with the texture_path field. 15:36 sfan5 Jordach: thats the same as using a grass block in MCForums 15:36 basilgohar Jordach: Yes, the server is running as the same user, within the same directory. 15:36 Jordach sfan5, relate that to which line 15:36 basilgohar It already created the map.sqlite in the world directory under ~/.minetest/ 15:36 sfan5 Jordach: the "imposter: [...]" 15:37 Jordach heh 15:38 Calinou cool, Jordach :3 15:38 PilzAdam "Sorry for my bad english. (I am from germany)" <- germans usually speak good English 15:39 basilgohar PilzAdam: That's been my experience as well, for what it's worth. 15:39 Calinou sorry for my bad english, I'm from america 15:39 PilzAdam ^ 15:39 basilgohar Calinou: That's been my experience as well, for what it's worth. :) 15:39 Jordach murrica* 15:39 basilgohar Calinou: *murr...oh man. 15:40 Jordach ninja'd 15:40 basilgohar Jordach sniped my joke. 15:40 Calinou experience as well? no, experience haswell! 15:40 Jordach enemy sniper spotted in your area 15:40 Calinou 15:40 Jordach 15:41 * Jordach is playing mortal kombat, bbl 15:41 basilgohar Jordach, did anything clue in to my problem being a permissions issue? 15:41 PilzAdam Bandits! Bandits! On my 6 15:41 PilzAdam 15:41 basilgohar Ah, lost 'im. 15:41 Jordach PilzAdam, do a barrel roll! 15:42 PilzAdam Jordach, what rank are you now in BF3? 15:42 Calinou fun fact: I saw a star fox ad with "do a barrel roll!" on it 15:42 Calinou nowhere as near as MLP tissues :-( 15:42 Jordach PilzAdam, no idea 15:42 Jordach Calinou, lol 15:42 Jordach OOH 15:42 * Jordach has another idea 15:42 Jordach Star Fox poster joke 15:43 Calinou MLP poster joke* 15:46 PilzAdam Jordach, whats your nick in battlelog? 16:21 markveidemanis What mods should i use to make a high security vault? 16:23 Jordach default 16:24 Jordach steelblocks are your friend 16:24 markveidemanis Thats what im doing, i need logic 16:24 markveidemanis like systems 16:24 markveidemanis doors, security 16:24 Jordach steel door too 16:24 markveidemanis traps 16:24 Jordach caled lava from the ceiling 16:26 Calinou encased locket chest in other locked chests 16:27 Jordach locked* 16:30 PilzAdam lol, https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/commit/463cd47445df1ce7ea1b04dc8c0fbc76ffe4edfd I wondered why I found so many diamonds 16:30 Calinou dat copypasta 16:31 PilzAdam yea :-/ 16:32 markveidemanis I have a small request 16:33 * PilzAdam too 16:33 PilzAdam STFU! 16:33 markveidemanis like digiline but no need for connections 16:33 markveidemanis like...global 16:33 markveidemanis global channels used for warnings, tv broadcasts... and so on 16:34 PilzAdam markveidemanis, do you actually notice that nobody cares about your ideas? 16:34 markveidemanis do you notice that everything you do seems to insult other people and look like you are a hostile retard? 16:35 * Jordach grabs a seat and some popcorn 16:35 Jordach dis gun be good 16:35 VanessaE afternoon all. 16:35 PilzAdam markveidemanis, so? {{cn}} 16:35 VanessaE and do you notice, markveidemanis, that you're pissing people off constantly? 16:35 * Jordach eats said popcorn 16:36 markveidemanis And do you notice you have no life? 16:36 PilzAdam markveidemanis, seriously, its easier to talk about features with people who actually know how to code 16:37 PilzAdam so, I suggest you at least to code some of your ideas yourself 16:37 PilzAdam that would make you more qualified to bring up ideas and also plans how to actually code it 16:37 PilzAdam otherwise people will just ignore you 16:38 PilzAdam *at least try 16:38 markveidemanis fine, is there a tutorial? 16:39 PilzAdam yes 16:39 PilzAdam but lemme give you a tip: when programming its very important to find resources yourselg 16:39 PilzAdam *yourself 16:40 PilzAdam learning how to code is also not something that you can learn in a day 16:40 Calinou ^ 16:40 VanessaE indeed, it can take weeks to months 16:41 Calinou more like 10 years 16:41 VanessaE Calinou: to master it, sure 16:41 PilzAdam maybe you can learn a programming language in 5 hours, but that doesnt mean you are a real programmer 16:41 Jordach a real programmer can do something other programmers cant 16:42 Calinou like, code a erlang implementation of Jordach 16:43 PilzAdam it heavily depdends how and where you learn it 16:44 PilzAdam e.g. we spend a year at school to learn the syntax for a for loop in Java 16:44 PilzAdam +of 16:44 PilzAdam -for 16:44 BlockMen PilzAdam, whaaaat? one year? 16:44 Jordach i learned c++ for loops in an hour 16:45 PilzAdam well, almost :-p 16:45 * BlockMen was always knowing that informatics at school sucks 16:45 PilzAdam Note: I already knew how Java in that time and it felt like a year 16:45 PilzAdam -how 16:45 Jordach for (x = 0; x < 120; x++){cout << x;} 16:46 PilzAdam Jordach, java 16:46 Jordach ew java 16:46 BlockMen java also sucks :P 16:46 PilzAdam BlockMen, well, the "Hamstersimulator" is quite nice 16:46 Jordach thank you 16:46 PilzAdam Java is a nice language 16:46 PilzAdam its 99.9% OOP 16:46 PilzAdam if you use Integer instead of int then 100% 16:46 Calinou but c-fifty-five hates OOP 16:47 Calinou minecraft isn't 100% OOP then 16:47 Calinou it uses int 16:47 PilzAdam * see-fifty-five 16:47 Calinou anyway, java is a nice language, contrary to common belief 16:47 Calinou works on all OSes, decently fast 16:47 Calinou RAM is cheap today 16:48 PilzAdam note that Java 7 dynamically changes int to Integer if needed 16:48 PilzAdam so its 99.95% OOP 16:49 BlockMen PilzAdam, i prefer usefull projects, not Hamstersimulatoren 16:49 PilzAdam BlockMen, while "the others" were learning the Java syntax in the Hamstersimulator, I was recoding it myself 16:50 VanessaE bbl 16:50 Jordach i'd rather bathe in pH 0 acid then code in java 16:50 Calinou than* 16:51 Jordach ninja'd 16:51 PilzAdam but after some while I turned the whole thing into an "Assozaivmaschine" and steped away from the Java syntax for inpuz 16:51 BlockMen why you have chosen informatics btw? 16:51 PilzAdam *input 16:51 PilzAdam BlockMen, because I thought you would actually learn something there.... 16:51 BlockMen lol, how naiv :P 16:52 PilzAdam the Abitur exam in informatic was a joke 16:52 PilzAdam it finished it in under 2 hours 16:52 PilzAdam (we had 5 1/2 hours time or so) 16:53 PilzAdam s/it/I 16:53 BlockMen i hate the german education. in our state there is no informatics in Abitur 16:53 Jordach ^ east german 16:54 BlockMen Jordach, no. i bet there is 16:54 Jordach mejh 16:54 Jordach meh* 16:54 Jordach at least i dont have that problem 16:54 BlockMen at least in saxony 16:55 BlockMen Jordach, me neither. im finished with school :P 16:57 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92209#p92209 16:58 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/7Kx1DNH-8t8 why is this song so fucking epic? 16:58 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam 16:58 Jordach you said you hated G products 16:58 Calinou oppa minetest style 16:58 * PilzAdam gives Jordach his slap back 16:58 Calinou losta people on hunger games server 16:58 Calinou Jordach: hey, render for you: replace psy with minetest player 16:58 Jordach \o/ 16:59 Calinou crashed when connecting to hunger games 16:59 PilzAdam Jordach, I already said you once that YouTube with proxies, adblock, noscript, dissallowed cookies and changed User Agenst is ok 16:59 PilzAdam *Agent 16:59 Calinou adblock + widget block + no third party cookies + chromium here 16:59 Calinou pretty "private" already 17:00 Calinou and doesn't harm user experience 17:00 Jordach PilzAdam is a block op 17:00 BlockMen PilzAdam, paranoid? 17:00 PilzAdam BlockMen, yes :D 17:00 Jordach i propose the term "block op" to be someone who blanks their posts 17:00 BlockMen but having a fb profile, right? :D 17:01 PilzAdam I dont use Facebook, Google+ or anything like this 17:01 BlockMen damn...i thought you are one of these ppl that shit on ggl but have fb ... 17:01 PilzAdam you thought I am stupid? 17:02 Jordach yes 17:02 Jordach very. 17:02 PilzAdam I also dont use search engines; and when I have to I use ixquick 17:02 BlockMen no, irrantional ;) 17:02 BlockMen *irrational 17:02 PilzAdam BlockMen, that is by defintion stupid (at least for me) 17:03 BlockMen PilzAdam, umm..no. and if you think it is, it is not and not ment like it 17:03 Jordach german fight! 17:03 * Jordach wants to see a long ass noun 17:04 BlockMen PilzAdam, -> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational and http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummheit ;) 17:05 PilzAdam BlockMen, that is by defintion stupid *(at least for me)* 17:05 PilzAdam its ok in maths, though 17:05 BlockMen irrationality, you can but dont. stupid, you CANT and dont 17:05 PilzAdam Tau, PI and E can be irrational if they want to :-) 17:06 PilzAdam although I prefer Tau: http://youtu.be/83ofi_L6eAo 17:07 * BlockMen remembers this irrational math stuff (and hates it) 17:07 PilzAdam because you are irrational 17:07 PilzAdam ;-) 17:07 PilzAdam everyone who is rational like it :-p 17:08 * BlockMen thinks that you messed up irrational and stupid now :P 17:08 PilzAdam also: I recommend everyone to watch every video of numberphile 17:08 PilzAdam and MinutePhysics 17:09 zRokh who has an android phone? 17:09 BlockMen PilzAdam, fan of Harald Lesch too? 17:09 PilzAdam kinda 17:09 BlockMen was kinda obvious... 17:09 PilzAdam I would call it "fan of science" 17:10 PilzAdam although I prefer the 2 channels I mentioned more, since they are english and its fun to listen to the same stuff you learned in german in a different language 17:10 PilzAdam -more +above 17:11 BlockMen btw science (and stuff). i think i gonna change my hobby to something like that -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpksY1Sj64 17:14 PilzAdam thats engineering and not science 17:15 BlockMen and engineering is based on what? 17:15 BlockMen tips: its not woodo 17:15 BlockMen *-s 17:16 PilzAdam everything is based on science 17:16 BlockMen well, no. religion, ideologies, etc 17:16 zRokh PilzAdam, science is based off of Albert Einstein 17:17 PilzAdam no, Aristoteles 17:17 zRokh ggrrrr.... |=[ 17:18 PilzAdam Alber Einstein just said that you can lose weight by moving slower 17:18 FreeFull You can lose weight by leaving gravity 17:18 zRokh what? o.o 17:18 BlockMen no, mass is energy 17:18 PilzAdam but to look thiner, you have to move faster; but then you weight more 17:18 PilzAdam so dunnio 17:18 PilzAdam -i 17:18 FreeFull And Einstein was talking about mass, not weight 17:19 BlockMen and energy is mass * lights speed² 17:19 zRokh yeah! yda 17:19 Jordach did i just see a well concealed fat joke 17:19 Jordach Calinou, your render is done 17:19 PilzAdam FreeFull, well, I want to explain it to him so that he can understand it ;-) 17:19 zRokh jordach do u likey mmorpg games? free? 17:19 Jordach fuck no 17:20 zRokh o.o 17:20 zRokh 0\/0 <=== NERD RAGE 17:21 PilzAdam BlockMen, re that helicpoter video: is this allowed in germany? ;-) 17:21 zRokh who likes MMORPG's 17:22 zRokh PilzAdam y didnt i know you live in Lithuania? Im near that ... im from Estonia 17:22 BlockMen PilzAdam, if your parcel land is large enough and you dont fligh to heigh, yes 17:22 BlockMen *fly 17:22 PilzAdam zRokh, wut? 17:23 zRokh i WHOIS'd you and i see Vilnius, Lithuania 17:23 zRokh dunno why... 17:23 PilzAdam .... the IRC server Im connected to is there 17:24 zRokh oh... crap, i already booked a flight there... 17:24 BlockMen PilzAdam has a fan :D 17:24 PilzAdam reook it to germany 17:24 PilzAdam *rebook 17:24 zRokh >8() 17:25 PilzAdam BlockMen, buisness as usual :D 17:25 zRokh sorry, no tnx... me no like rebook stuff... they suck... break easily 17:26 BlockMen PilzAdam, ofc. and then all that stalker and all the press ... 17:26 PilzAdam BlockMen, just because of the money... 17:27 zRokh what word am i thinking on: theres potatoes, meat, ketchup, veggies... 17:28 * BlockMen wants also money 17:28 zRokh then earn it! 17:28 BlockMen zRokh, or you give me some 17:28 zRokh or steal it... wut ever sinks your boat... 17:28 Calinou lol nice Jordach 17:28 sfan5 !c 1.41421356237309492343001693370752036571502685546875^2 17:28 MinetestBot 2 17:28 sfan5 \o/ 17:28 zRokh or Titanic... wut ever... 17:30 BlockMen Holy shit ! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMVz3oUCagw 17:30 PilzAdam sfan5, oO 17:34 sfan5 !c 3*sqrt(20) 17:34 MinetestBot 13.4164079 17:35 sfan5 !c 3*20 17:35 MinetestBot 60 17:35 sfan5 !c sqrt(60) 17:35 MinetestBot 7.74596669 17:35 sfan5 damn 17:35 PilzAdam BlockMen, Minetest mod? 17:36 BlockMen PilzAdam, Minetest 5.0 :P 17:37 PilzAdam Released: 2030; License: Copyright PilzAdam; All rights reserverd :-p 17:38 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:39 MinetestBot 8.0 × 10^(81) 17:39 BlockMen PilzAdam, 2030? why you need so long for that small changes? 17:39 PilzAdam lazyness 17:39 MinetestBot 3.66032341 × 10^(199) 17:41 sfan5 john_minetest: if you manage to overflow MinetestBot's !c you have successfully overflowed google calculator 17:42 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:42 sfan5 !c sqrt(99*(100-1)) 17:42 MinetestBot 99 17:43 sfan5 python has no overflow, only max values 17:43 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:46 sfan5 john_minetest: umm 17:46 sfan5 <john_minetest> !c sqrt(89127089571408917950813275>>>>>ß<><<<98175238975109752187) 17:46 sfan5 there was an ß 17:46 MinetestBot 9.44071446 × 10^(22) 17:46 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 17:46 sfan5 john_minetest: the value is 94407144629741302054912 17:47 BlockMen bye everyone 17:47 sfan5 also 99^(99)*99 is 36603234127322950493061602657251738618971207663892369140595737269931704475072474818719654351002695040066156910065284327471823569680179941585710535449170757427389035006098270837114978219916760849490001 17:54 FreeFull sfan5: Isn't that the same as 99^100 17:54 FreeFull Yeah, it is 17:54 sfan5 yep 18:06 * sfan5 tried to mine some bitcoins using windows 8: http://i.imgur.com/twEJ9BD.jpg 18:10 Jordach sfan5, is that your actual pc 18:10 sfan5 no 18:10 sfan5 not mine 18:10 sfan5 (well, not directly) 18:55 Jordach hey cisoun, seen my minetest renders? 19:52 STHGOM its quiet... 19:53 * Calinou places a Seidon 120M @ 100% in this room 19:53 Calinou no longer quiet 19:53 * sfan5 destroys the Seidon 120M with a Mese pickaxe 19:54 basilgohar sfan5: Would've been faster with a diamond pickaxe... 19:54 sfan5 but mese is more powerful 20:16 rotor112 hi 20:17 Jordach griefer 20:22 PilzAdam pressure plates added to MiniTest 20:36 Calinou PilzAdam, in minecraft, you can make pressure plates with iron or gold blocks 20:36 Calinou but they are only activated by dropped items 20:36 Calinou it would be nice if we had those to 20:36 Calinou too* 20:36 PilzAdam not in the MC version I try to copy 20:37 Calinou you're trying to copy a specific MC version? since when? 20:37 Calinou I thought you always wanted to copy the latest one... 20:37 PilzAdam basically before hunger bar was added 20:37 Calinou oh 20:37 Calinou you should remove stone bricks then :P 20:39 PilzAdam why is there no wiki page for all the digging times that dont require a tool? 20:40 Jordach Calinou, 1.7.3 20:40 Jordach that was the shit 20:41 Ipos hello 20:41 Calinou PilzAdam, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Digging 20:41 Calinou hi Ipos 20:42 Ipos I can’t load local (in ~/.minetest) mods on Minetest :/ 20:42 Calinou Ipos, you have to enable them in latest git now 20:42 Calinou select your world, click Configure 20:43 Calinou click Enable All, then Save, then OK 20:43 Calinou then load it 20:43 Calinou you put your mods in ~/.minetest/mods/ now 20:43 Calinou then you enable them 20:43 Calinou less confusing in the long run ;) 20:43 Ipos ok 20:43 Ipos i will try, thanks 20:46 sfan5 good night 20:47 STHGOM night' 21:01 Playzooki hi 21:01 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 21:03 Playzooki g2g 21:18 PilzAdam tools wear now out if they dig stuff they are not supposed to dig (e.g. a pick digs dirt) in MiniTest 21:19 PilzAdam nobody can image how much I abuse the group system :-) 21:23 Ipos Hum…ok. I will update all my mods I think. Got a ModError. 21:23 Ipos Nice new logo btw 21:24 Ipos In fact, there is just Addons>Minetest 21:25 Ipos And no mods appear there 21:49 PilzAdam shears added to MiniTest 21:50 STHGOM bye 21:51 VanessaE hi all. 21:52 PilzAdam MiniTest is getting quite good; I actually havent planned to develop it as much as I do currently 21:52 VanessaE cool 21:53 kaeza greetings 22:05 VanessaE what is that candy game the others here have been playing? 22:05 VanessaE the name, I mean 22:05 khonkhortisan candy box 22:05 khonkhortisan candies.aniwey.net 22:05 VanessaE just wondered 22:05 khonkhortisan I only finished the first quest 22:06 VanessaE I'll stick to MT. one addiction at a time. 22:06 VanessaE :D 22:08 codedevil MT lacks playability 22:08 codedevil and polish 22:08 codedevil fixing the former should be easier :) 22:08 codedevil what are your goals while playing? 22:09 kahrl polish is in po/pl/minetest.po 22:10 kaeza kahrl, lol 22:10 PilzAdam heh 22:10 VanessaE codedevil: define "playability" 22:13 kaeza I guess he means have some sort of goal 22:14 VanessaE G*d no 22:14 VanessaE give it a goal and we'll just end up with another enderdragon or something 22:14 kaeza why not? 22:14 kaeza It does not have to be the "final goal" 22:15 VanessaE well I guess not 22:15 VanessaE but the point of a game like minetest should be in the playing of the game, not in the goals one should expect to reach while playing. 22:21 codedevil well both things 22:21 codedevil there is no overall goal 22:21 codedevil and also there are no interesting short goals - because there is no sense of danger 22:21 PilzAdam Minetest has goals: the goals you set yourself 22:21 VanessaE so install a mobs mod then 22:22 PilzAdam thats makes it very interesting 22:22 VanessaE there's your "danger" 22:22 codedevil is there would be hords of zombies and wolfs and intelligent creepers attacking each night 22:22 codedevil and the ability to build would be somehow limited a bit (e.g. 100 blocks / minute) 22:22 codedevil it would be really a fun challange to survive 22:22 codedevil in some shalter 22:22 codedevil and then slowly turn it into a castle against opposition 22:23 codedevil as long as I can instantly build 3 block high wall and be totally imprevious to any danger (even on mob servers), threre is zero danger = zero fun of winning over sometinh 22:24 VanessaE well you can't very well have that without destroying what the game is for a lot of other people 22:24 PilzAdam there are shooting mobs 22:24 PilzAdam *will be 22:24 VanessaE (e.g. the ability to build really nice, large structures rapidly) 22:25 VanessaE so the solution is to install a few mods to make it into the game *you* want 22:25 codedevil VanessaE: that would be another game mode. like, real-adventure 22:25 codedevil or real-survival 22:25 PilzAdam btw: another minor update to redstone in MiniTest 22:26 codedevil celeron55 is not among us? 22:27 VanessaE not often, no 22:27 PilzAdam he is doing other stuff lately 22:27 codedevil I like idea of minetest a lot 22:27 PilzAdam (lately == since 0.4.4) 22:27 codedevil it's very cool :) 22:27 VanessaE he's not the only person coding on the project now, though 22:27 codedevil but for me the game is not fun for 3 reasons, compared to minecraft 22:28 codedevil - no real polishing of details 22:28 * PilzAdam points at MiniTest 22:28 codedevil - no standarized gamepaly. In MC everyone knows what Creeper is and knows the feeling of I see you have a nice home heressssshhhhhhh 22:28 codedevil - no challange like said above 22:28 VanessaE then. install. some. mods. 22:29 codedevil that is what I ment by standarisation, VanessaE 22:29 PilzAdam I guess MiniTest will be quite similiar to MC when I add in mobs 22:29 PilzAdam codedevil, the default game has 2 goals: 1) good gameplay 2) being a platform for mods 22:30 codedevil MineCraft: -I survived the night on surface of grassland, with no tools! Wow awesome dude! How you hide from Archers? 22:30 PilzAdam you cant just ignore the fact that the best thing about Minetest is the mod support 22:30 VanessaE someone explain this to me: 22:30 codedevil MineTest: -I survived a night ... - so what? - which server, does it has mods? - which mobs mod? what version 22:30 VanessaE why the fuck does EVERYONE want shit that will KILL you in a game!? 22:30 PilzAdam VanessaE, challenge is interesting 22:31 codedevil because otherwise it is boring. it could also just destroy my building or sometin 22:31 VanessaE is there, in these folks' minds, no concept of playing a game that doesn't try to kill you every two seconds? 22:31 VanessaE (no offense of course) 22:31 codedevil because escaping being killed is quite thrilling 22:32 PilzAdam codedevil, btw: its Minetest, not MineTest 22:32 PilzAdam only MiniTest has the first T capitalized 22:32 * VanessaE randomly capitalizes MinITEsT just to irritate PilzAdam ;) 22:33 PilzAdam still better than MineTest 22:35 codedevil I guess adding cool monsters as well as animals would be best goal now 22:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: did you see my comment about adding a couple more animal types to simple mobs? and, to that end, is it possible for that mod to be merged to minetest_game? 22:36 PilzAdam yea I saw that comments 22:37 PilzAdam I dont know about merging it in minetest_game 22:37 VanessaE you probably should - I think it would solve a lot of peoples' gripes. 22:37 VanessaE (as long as I can still easily disable hostile mobs :) ) 22:38 troller monsters +1 sky, ground, underground 22:38 PilzAdam well, all mobf users will immediatly start a shitstorm 22:38 VanessaE heh 22:38 VanessaE well, it's easy enough to just delete mobs if mobf is desired 22:38 PilzAdam then, everyone with slow PCs will start a shitstorm too 22:38 PilzAdam and finally all the people that think that mobs should be "smart" will start a shitstorm 22:39 VanessaE ok, that accounts for 10% of the userbase so far... 22:39 VanessaE :D 22:39 codedevil PilzAdam: also the modding configuration dialog is broken 22:39 PilzAdam codedevil, how so? 22:39 codedevil shows tickmarks randomly 22:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, Ill try it in MiniTest and see how it performs 22:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: sure. 22:39 codedevil the [select all] buttons are not appearing sometimes 22:40 VanessaE I run your sheep + rats on my server and they seem to be fine 22:40 PilzAdam codedevil, wich version? 22:40 VanessaE but that's only one datapoint. 22:40 PilzAdam (of Minetest) 22:42 kahrl well the whole main menu will probably be replaced with a rewrite soon so fixing it won't do much good 22:42 VanessaE kahrl: possibly sapier's Lua menu stuff? 22:42 kahrl yes 22:42 VanessaE sounds good. 22:43 VanessaE well, s/lua/formspec/ 22:43 codedevil PilzAdam: git version 22:56 codedevil VanessaE: your server by default disallows interact?! 22:57 VanessaE yes 22:57 VanessaE keeps griefers under control 22:57 codedevil keeps everyone from playing there 22:57 codedevil at least make message about it or you will lose all new players 22:57 codedevil anyway, give the build access to me then 22:58 VanessaE um, there is a message about it. 22:58 VanessaE and I just did. 22:58 VanessaE in the /status msg, the forum post, and in the description for the server list 22:59 VanessaE G*d damn chat crash. 23:00 VanessaE codedevil: no hostile mobs on my server, just peaceful ones, pvp is restricted to designated arenas and only if the opponent agrees. 23:00 kaeza I joined sfan's server yesterday 23:01 kaeza got followed endlessly by some noob that didn't even know how to craft a pickaxe 23:01 VanessaE heh 23:03 codedevil lol... DIRT sword? 23:03 VanessaE usesdirt mod, which I have installed because it has a few useful blocks. 23:04 kaeza he hit me with his bare hands 23:04 kaeza I drew out my diamond sword -- problem solved 23:04 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4129 23:04 kaeza ninja'd 23:04 kaeza D: 23:04 kaeza cornernote's air sword topic got deleted... YYYYYYYYYYYYYY? 23:05 kaeza it could move mountains, dig to -32000 in a single stroke D: 23:07 kaeza it was Chuck Norris' second preferred weapon 23:07 kaeza (after himself) 23:10 PilzAdam what? your air sword mod is gone? 23:10 * PilzAdam slaps VanessaE and every other moderator 23:10 VanessaE don't look at me, I didn't touch it 23:14 thexyz oh fuck 23:14 thexyz i'll just remove delete.php then 23:15 thexyz it's better now 23:15 VanessaE great, so no more deleting spam? :-/ 23:16 thexyz yes, move it to trash 23:17 thexyz oh, wait, you still can remove them 23:18 thexyz okay, fine 23:19 thexyz i'll turn it on back 23:20 VanessaE thexyz: any progress on some kind of post history? 23:22 thexyz no 23:23 thexyz I've decided I hate php too much 23:23 VanessaE heh