Time  Nick            Message
00:00 Exio            i would
00:00 kaeza           </troll>
00:00 Exio            if i knew a proper way to do
00:00 codedevil       VE server?
00:00 kaeza           BTW, random: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-soccer
00:00 Exio            VanessaE's server
00:00 VanessaE        !up vanessae.mine.bz:30000
00:00 MinetestBot     VanessaE: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
00:00 codedevil       name/password protection? same for each server?
00:00 Exio            nah
00:00 VanessaE        FUUUUU, bot :)
00:00 Exio            that is per server
00:00 codedevil       but still, plaintext pass?
00:00 Exio            what
00:00 codedevil       last century called, they want eniac bac
00:00 codedevil       back.
00:01 Exio            i have no idea how that stuff works
00:01 codedevil       the authentication is just by sending password to server? that is super insecure
00:01 Exio            afaik it is sha1+base64 with salts or so
00:01 VanessaE        codedevil: the password is stored as a hash on the server
00:01 codedevil       it's a tiny bit better
00:01 khonkhortisan   I can't take a stone out of the creative inventory when joining clutters my screen, making text block the mouse click from hitting the formspec.
00:01 VanessaE        I presume the client sends the hash, not the password
00:01 Exio            cracking sha1 with a gpu is fast as hell
00:02 kaeza           VanessaE, fun fact: I use the same PW for everything (mail account, local root account, etc)
00:02 codedevil       WzulClan or makred?
00:02 kaeza           <--- shoot me
00:02 Exio            thanks for info
00:02 Exio            if we even get some password of you
00:02 Exio            we can haz access to your whole system
00:02 Exio            and stuff
00:02 VanessaE        heh
00:03 kaeza           gl;hf
00:03 kaeza           it is 200 chars long
00:03 Exio            200 chars long
00:03 Exio            kaeza 50 times
00:03 Exio            :D
00:04 khonkhortisan   Who in their right mind makes chat messages clickable and then doesn't do anything with that click?
00:04 VanessaE        khonkhortisan: the same person who made it not possible to click on them (or even mouseover them) in Linux?
00:04 kaeza           khonkhortisan, the XChat packager for Puppy
00:04 kaeza           also, gnome-terminal
00:05 khonkhortisan   ? I'm talking about minetest
00:05 PilzAdam        codedevil, I made the attached_node code
00:07 codedevil       PilzAdam: the candle should rotate a bit to face camera fully or at least -45 .. +45 degrees
00:07 codedevil       to avoid hair-thin sprite of candle
00:07 PilzAdam        ah, you mean the rendering?
00:08 PilzAdam        well, that isnt by me
00:08 codedevil       k
00:09 PilzAdam        you can improbe it if you want, the code is at content_mapblock.cpp:928
00:09 PilzAdam        *improve
00:15 Exio            add + rand()
00:17 kaeza           aaand it's posted: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91960#p91960
00:17 PilzAdam        NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
00:17 PilzAdam        no soccer
00:18 * kaeza         pust on sunglasses
00:18 kaeza           YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
00:18 kaeza           puts*
00:19 Exio            write bots
00:19 Exio            and add controls
00:19 Exio            FifaTest
00:19 Exio            s/T/t/
00:20 kaeza           one more minigame for servers
00:20 Exio            how does it perform with more than 50ms of latency
00:20 kaeza           seriously, all I ever see are these "spleef arenas"
00:21 kaeza           Exio, wanna test?
00:21 kaeza           I can open up a temp server
00:21 Exio            can't
00:27 Pentium44       PilzAdam
00:27 Pentium44       are you here?
00:28 Pentium44       is anyone here6?
00:28 Exio            no
00:28 Exio            you are alone
00:29 Pentium44       lol
00:35 khonkhortisan   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoOy4_F2a44
00:48 Kacey           bbiab
00:50 kaeza           Exio, :D http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/268923/diego-forlan-uruguay/
00:51 Exio            hi
00:51 Exio            kaeza: legitskin.exe
00:53 kaeza           Exio, legitskin.exe is not a valid Win32 application
00:55 Exio            it is a fake message
00:55 kaeza           VanessaE, there's one small issue with your suggestion
00:55 VanessaE        what?
00:55 kaeza           I can make fence signs connect to other fences, but not the other way around
00:56 kaeza           (unless I go about and merge xfences into homedecor :/
00:56 kaeza           )
00:57 VanessaE        that's okay, we'll just have to fake it ;)
00:57 VanessaE        oh G*d
00:57 VanessaE        someone's building a Menger Sponge on my server (SE corner of the map)
00:57 VanessaE        those are known to kill one's framerate :)
00:58 Exio            what is a menger sponge btw
00:58 VanessaE        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Menger-Schwamm-farbig.png/310px-Menger-Schwamm-farbig.png
00:58 VanessaE        that.
00:58 VanessaE        I noticed it while browsing the overview map for my server
00:58 Pentium44       hi
00:58 * VanessaE      looks at khonkhortisan
00:59 Pentium44       Kacey, hey
00:59 kaeza           hello 48611
00:59 Exio            wut
00:59 Exio            i don't get it
00:59 kaeza           Exio, celeron 55 -> pentium 44 -> 486 11
01:00 Exio            no
01:00 VanessaE        Exio: celeron55, Pentium44, (30)486-11
01:00 Exio            i mean what the sponge is
01:00 VanessaE        ninja'd
01:00 Exio            that*
01:00 VanessaE        Exio: it's a fractal
01:00 VanessaE        like Sierpinski's Triangle, but square
01:00 Exio            but i mean, how would you build it in MT
01:00 Pentium44       lol
01:00 VanessaE        Exio: very carefully.
01:01 Exio            you don't have nested blocks
01:01 Kacey           http://ifunny.mobi/f/TYjwuOg31
01:02 VanessaE        Kacey: nooo..  must....
01:02 VanessaE        not.... click...
01:03 khonkhortisan   :P
01:03 khonkhortisan   That's the picture I was using to colorize it
01:03 VanessaE        heh
01:03 VanessaE        gotta run
01:03 VanessaE        back in a few hours
01:04 kaeza           the green one is Kacey: http://ifunny.mobi/p/CQOKkIiS
01:05 Kacey           hey...
01:05 khonkhortisan   straighten the picture. The tower. The picture. Aah!
01:06 khonkhortisan   I might be able to cover the cube in a framerate protective layer
01:09 * khonkhortisan gets his ghoststone out
01:13 khonkhortisan   Now I just need to have a timer to show ghoststone when the map is being generated, and hide it otherwise
01:31 kahrl           getPointedThing weirdness...
01:31 Exio            why?
01:32 Exio            and hi kahrl :P
01:32 kahrl           build two diagonally adjacent towers, one 6 nodes higher than the other: http://i.imgur.com/PDyLMOx.png
01:32 kahrl           sneak on the outer corner of the small tower and point at the highest node of the high tower
01:33 kahrl           it will flicker between selected and not selected
01:53 kaeza           fak!
01:54 kaeza           multiple spammers in the forum
01:59 Exio            kahrl: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/741
02:10 Exio            by looking around just for the lulz
02:10 Exio            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/229
02:11 Exio            er
02:28 RealBadAngel    i have updated bump mapping branch with some bugfixes and code cleanup
02:29 Menche          lol, 2 spammers in topic: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91965#p91965
02:30 Menche          don't you need to answer some question to make an account?
02:32 Menche          found a 3rd one. each spambot has it's own account.
03:08 ecube           if only we could get close enough to ask them what their purpose in life is
03:10 sokomine        reported them as well (don't know if reporting is helpful or not...most likely the mods read the forum anyway...)
03:14 Miner_48er      I need a way to make exceptions to the ip ban for certain usernames on shared ips. Any way to do this?
03:15 kahrl           Miner_48er: I don't think you can do this with the default ban systems
03:15 kahrl           system*
03:18 Miner_48er      ok what would be required to accomplish this?
03:18 kahrl           you could write a mod that calls get_player_ip in on_joinplayer and temporarily bans them if the IP is disallowed
03:19 kahrl           (I don't think the kick pull request has been merged yet)
03:20 ShadowNinja     kahrl: Bug hmmmm or write it. It was messy code and closed.
03:20 kahrl           Yeah it couldn't have been merged in the state it was in
03:22 Miner_48er      what is the current code for ip ban?
03:22 kahrl           Miner_48er: the chatcommand handler is in builtin/chatcommands.lua; it calls a function that is implemented in C++
03:23 kahrl           it calls some stuff in src/ban.cpp
03:46 kaeza           kahrl, I think it would be good to have a minetest.kick_player(player, reason) function. that way mods can create customized ban systems using on_joinplayer
03:47 ShadowNinja     kaeza: Already mentioned ban and unban works for now.
03:47 ShadowNinja     +,
03:48 kaeza           ShadowNinja, in this case, it will kick all players with same IP
03:48 kaeza           s/kick/ban/
03:49 ShadowNinja     Hmmm, good point, but that is unlikely.
03:50 kaeza           good point there
03:52 Miner_48er      when a banned client joins what code checks the ban list?
05:13 VanessaE        bbl, bedtime.
05:53 markveidemanis  Who will play soccer with me
05:59 markveidemanis  I need astro turf
06:00 markveidemanis  kaeza
06:01 markveidemanis  What shall i fill the pitch with?
07:57 markveidemanis  RealBadAngel: how does your minetest work? whats new?
07:59 Calinou         hi
08:00 Calinou         "your minetest"?
08:04 * Calinou       reloads their SMG
08:04 Calinou         spammer with 4 posts >:o
08:06 Calinou         gonna try this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91960#p91960
08:06 Calinou         :3
08:07 Calinou         kaeza: it would be nice if we had some alias for soccer ball, like "soccer_ball"
08:07 Calinou         shorter to type :)
08:08 markveidemanis  or ball...
08:08 Calinou         could conflict
08:08 kaeza           Calinou, good idea
08:09 markveidemanis  minetest.register_alias("socker:ball_item", "ball")
08:09 Calinou         anyway the ball seems to not deccelerate and float upward sometimes
08:09 kaeza           also, making better textyred ball
08:09 markveidemanis  wrong way lol
08:09 kaeza           float upward?
08:09 Calinou         make it a bit bigger maybe
08:09 Calinou         kaeza: shoot it from a cliff
08:09 Calinou         and see
08:09 markveidemanis  minetest.register_alias("ball", "socker:ball_item")
08:09 kaeza           thought I squashed that bug o.o
08:09 Calinou         or shoot it on a wall
08:09 markveidemanis  Calinou
08:09 markveidemanis  DO you want to play soccer?
08:09 Calinou         latest minetest git + latest version of your mod (downloaded 5 minutes ago)
08:10 Calinou         markveidemanis: if it lags, no :P
08:10 markveidemanis  Its flatland, wont lag
08:10 markveidemanis  should i disable tech mods?
08:10 markveidemanis  tech mods = mesecons, digiline, wireless
08:11 Calinou         lol the ball went up and I couldn't catch it
08:11 Calinou         markveidemanis: no, keep them
08:11 markveidemanis  I have no pressure plates
08:11 markveidemanis  just luacontroller, switch, button, wires, microcontroller
08:12 Calinou         pressure plates can be used for goals
08:12 markveidemanis  No, theres too much delay for it to work
08:13 markveidemanis  Is there some entity_detector?
08:34 Calinou         you could just make a 1 block deep pit too
08:34 Calinou         :P
08:36 kaeza           my field has pressure plates for goals
08:36 kaeza           fun fact: you can socre a goal if you go inside it :P
08:36 kaeza           or drop an item inside
08:36 kaeza           score+
08:36 kaeza           **
08:36 kaeza           fak
08:37 kaeza           now making a bouncy ball :3
08:38 markveidemanis  could a ball be teleported?
08:38 markveidemanis  ...
08:42 Calinou         theorically yes
08:42 Calinou         actually, you need a player on the other side
08:42 Calinou         else it'll just glitch out
08:42 Calinou         and plates which teleport players won't teleport balls
08:46 markveidemanis  Is there a HazMat suit?
08:47 markveidemanis  Hazard suit
09:02 Calinou         kaeza made one in his survival mod
09:02 Calinou         lets you dive in lava
09:04 kaeza           hm?
09:04 kaeza           john_minetest, \o/
09:05 kaeza           oh lol I had markv in ignorelist
09:05 markveidemanis  GRRR
09:05 kaeza           hai mark
09:05 markveidemanis  Make it for the armor plus, like the survival/Hazards/suit
09:06 kaeza           make what?
09:07 markveidemanis  Hazmat suit
09:07 markveidemanis  also plz join my server
09:07 kaeza           why not use survival and remove all the useless stuff (like the *actual* survival stuff)
09:07 markveidemanis  have soccer
09:08 Calinou         john_minetest: so useful \o/
09:08 markveidemanis  Because thats not an item
09:08 markveidemanis  i mean not a skin/armor
09:09 Calinou         ._.
09:44 markveidemanis  Who is good at inventory making ans all that
09:48 markveidemanis  http://pastie.org/7967541
10:00 markveidemanis  john_minetest
10:00 markveidemanis  http://pastie.org/7967541 MEssage says it all
10:01 markveidemanis  [ kaeza, sfan5 ] ^
10:02 markveidemanis  okay...
10:02 markveidemanis  i need RealBadAngel to check it out
10:31 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
10:44 Zeg9            Hi
10:45 PilzAdam        hey Zeg9
10:46 PilzAdam        have you seen the redstone in MiniTest?
10:46 Zeg9            Yeah I saw that
10:47 Zeg9            I have an idea for levers but it isn't really "clean": using an entity and a model
10:48 PilzAdam        meh
10:53 Zeg9            PilzAdam: it would look better than a torchlike or nodebox
10:55 PilzAdam        yea, but its too hacky
11:02 * Zeg9          leaves
11:02 Zeg9            I'll be around in a few hours
11:09 markveidemanis  Who wants to build a prison with me
11:10 * ImQ009        runs Prison Architect
11:11 markveidemanis  Join my server
11:11 markveidemanis  To build a prison
11:11 markveidemanis  In flatland
11:11 markveidemanis  Possible underground
11:16 Jordach         hey Calinou
11:19 markveidemanis  I need a vault door
11:19 Jordach         use steelblock
11:19 markveidemanis  And an evelator
11:19 markveidemanis  I am
11:19 markveidemanis  I need it to open :)
11:24 Jordach         sneak elevator or ladders work
11:27 markveidemanis  How do i unzip tar.rz?
11:27 markveidemanis  *.gz
11:27 Jordach         markveidemanis, 7-Zip
11:27 Calinou         yey
11:27 Jordach         youre on fucking lubuntu
11:28 Calinou         I got accused of karma farm on some minecraft server
11:28 Jordach         you should have a mother fucking extractor
11:29 [ungali]        unp
11:30 Jordach         [ungali], youre pocket chatting again
11:30 [ungali]        oops.
11:30 [ungali]        wait, what?
11:30 [ungali]        this is my macbook
11:30 [ungali]        "unp" is a perl script
11:30 [ungali]        unpacks everything
11:37 markveidemanis  How do i extract tar.gz files in lubuntu?
11:37 Jordach         markveidemanis, with the unzipper
11:37 Jordach         that your DE provides
11:37 Jordach         markveidemanis, #lubuntu
11:38 markveidemanis  that doesnt work
11:38 markveidemanis  i have got this file before
11:38 Jordach         if you cant extract tar.gz on linux then use windows.
11:38 markveidemanis  and someone here helped, its a simple command
11:38 [ungali]        !g tar.gz extract
11:38 MinetestBot     [ungali]: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bsd-extract-targz-file/
11:38 Jordach         sudo rm -r *
11:38 Jordach         >:P
11:38 [ungali]        NO
11:38 [ungali]        don't listen to this fucker
11:38 * Jordach       thanks kaeza
11:38 markveidemanis  sudo rm /
11:38 [ungali]        <3, Jordach
11:39 markveidemanis  I never do...
11:39 kaeza           :D
11:39 markveidemanis  just sometimes is helpful..
11:39 Jordach         markveidemanis, www.winehq.org
11:39 Jordach         then download winRar
11:39 [ungali]        use unp
11:39 Jordach         or that
11:39 [ungali]        apt-get install unp
11:39 Jordach         sudo *
11:40 markveidemanis  I got the file, thanks
11:41 markveidemanis  tar -zxvf master
11:41 Jordach         huh, clementine recognised AC/DC as agressive rock
11:42 kaeza           Jordach, sudo blender a_ball.blend --pls
11:42 Jordach         you want a model kaeza?
11:43 kaeza           :P
11:43 kaeza           I don't feel good asking for things, but my attempt at texturing a simple icosphere failed :(
11:45 kaeza           BTW, fighting against myself in candy box
11:45 kaeza           HP: NaN/NaN :|
11:50 Jordach         kaeza, modern footballs dont even look like icospheres anymore
11:50 Jordach         they have the icoshpere panels, but not the design
11:50 kaeza           IK
11:51 kaeza           but that seemed easier to texture
11:52 Jordach         and now i have a fragmentation issue
11:52 Jordach         i have a perfect model and one that doesnt work right
11:52 tgs3            Jordach: we should have some music in minetest :)
11:52 Jordach         ones for renders, ones for minetest
11:52 Jordach         tgs3, so, you've seen my stuff then
11:52 tgs3            not yet
11:53 tgs3            !g rule 34
11:53 MinetestBot     tgs3: http://rule34.paheal.net/
11:54 kaeza           dafuq
11:54 thexyz          woo!
11:54 thexyz          http://i.imgur.com/7mYqjMr.png
11:55 kaeza           thexyz, respond "I have technic mod installed, thanks"
11:55 kaeza           </troll>
11:57 Calinou         lol
11:59 thexyz          > how much is 1 stack
12:00 Jordach         thexyz, LOL
12:02 Jordach         clementine crashed again, and when i called up taskman, it returned
12:03 Calinou         clementine didn't crash since I upgraded to 13.04
12:03 Jordach         Calinou, then again, my library is gigantic
12:03 Jordach         it even crashes iTunes
12:04 Jordach         oh wait, anything can crash iTunes
12:05 Jordach         Calinou, some pentium 4s can even run windows 8
12:06 thexyz          Jordach: how many songs?
12:07 Jordach         thexyz, havent checked for some time
12:07 Jordach         clementine crashed on query
12:08 thexyz          Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/LTt5BnF.png ^^
12:09 Jordach         thexyz, i can fill my 16gb mp3 player with rockbox
12:10 thexyz          b-but it's 266G
12:11 Jordach         iOS uses .deb
12:11 Jordach         \o/
12:13 thexyz          I believe Cydia does
12:13 thexyz          not iOS itself
12:15 Calinou         Jordach: all of them, there is 32 bit windows 8
12:15 Calinou         there won't be 32 bit windows 9 though
12:15 Jordach         Calinou, it needs NX bit
12:15 Jordach         which > northwood p4s miss
12:15 Calinou         well, even P4s have that
12:15 Calinou         do prescott P4s have it? :troll:
12:16 Calinou         useful for heating rooms
12:16 thexyz          well windows sucks anyway
12:16 Calinou         ^
12:16 Calinou         buuut... linux sucks, thexyz, it has a shitty graphics and sound stack!
12:16 Calinou         </sarcasm>
12:16 thexyz          how 'bout pu-pu-pshhhh-dio?
12:17 Calinou         pulseaudio needs HT to be perfect, else, it suffers from latency
12:17 Calinou         secret plan to kill AMD
12:18 thexyz          also, 12309
12:19 Jordach         if i wanted cheap heating, i'd buy a server rack and use it as a heater
12:19 Calinou         what?
12:19 Calinou         Jordach: or get a passive 7850
12:19 Calinou         powercolor made one
12:19 Jordach         <- AGP 8X
12:19 Calinou         95°C in far cry 3 with semi-passive, 103°C in full passive (and it throttles)
12:19 Calinou         ah it's PCI-E :P
12:20 thexyz          Calinou: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309
12:20 thexyz          sure, CODE_FIX
12:21 Calinou         dat long bug fix
12:23 Jordach         when a distro becomes as useful as windows, i'll probably use it
12:24 thexyz          it's the time then
12:24 thexyz          oh, wait
12:24 thexyz          i missed the >as useful as windows part
12:24 Jordach         thexyz, my pc has until 2020
12:24 thexyz          should probably wait for more regressions
12:24 Jordach         windows 7 loses support then
12:25 Calinou         ubuntu LTSes last 5 years, probably enough
12:51 sfan5           hi
12:52 Jordach         hey sfan5
12:52 sfan5           ...
12:52 sfan5           !!!
12:52 sfan5           Jordach: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-classic-0.3.1-win32.zip
12:52 sfan5           I forgot to give you the link
12:53 Jordach         PilzAdam, following bug
12:53 Jordach         if you are in the view range of a mob with following they sit still
12:55 Jordach         even though its the incorrect item they want to follow
12:55 Jordach         irl, animals would still move around
13:03 kaeza           You have eaten -1 candies!
13:15 Calinou         kaeza: collision with soccer goal is very buggy, you should probably disable it :P
13:15 Calinou         or put nodes one-by-one (but more complicated to do)
13:16 Jordach         s/soccer/football
13:16 PilzAdam        MiniTest now has the same digging times as MC
13:16 Calinou         cool
13:16 PilzAdam        and by same I mean exactly the same
13:16 Calinou         is it possible to dig stone by hand in 7.5 seconds, but without getting drops?
13:16 Calinou         you can do that in MC
13:16 PilzAdam        no, thats the only thing that is not in MiniTest
13:17 PilzAdam        maybe I can hack it somehow
13:17 kaeza           Calinou, goal is only for decoration
13:17 Calinou         I know
13:18 kaeza           (and yes, collision is buggy)
13:18 kaeza           prolly because it uses nodeboxes > 1 in size
13:18 Calinou         you could use many nodes, it would help, maybe
13:18 Calinou         nodeboxes*
13:19 kaeza           I will push some changes. I can't get the ball to bounce :/
13:19 * Jordach       wants mario kart
13:20 * kaeza         wants dynamic shadows
13:21 kaeza           also, shadows for entities
13:21 Jordach         RealBadAngel, ^
13:21 kaeza           (at least a simple flat semitransparent oval)
13:22 PilzAdam        I noticed 1 thing while doing the new digging times: Gold is faster than diamonds in MC
13:22 Jordach         PilzAdam, but its real weak
13:23 PilzAdam        it wears out 50 times faster than diamonds
13:23 PilzAdam        anyway, the MiniTest needs testing now
13:23 PilzAdam        it can happen that you cant dig a block now
13:24 PilzAdam        although Im pretty sure I didnt make a mistake
13:28 Jordach         PilzAdam, seen the simple mobs bug
13:37 Jordach         attempting a more noisier, but blurred texture: http://i.imgur.com/W96oBgG.png
13:59 rubenwardy      Hi Everyone!
14:00 BlockMen        hi
14:00 rubenwardy      :P
14:00 rubenwardy      How r u?
14:01 rubenwardy      Not much
14:01 kaeza           http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92020#p92020
14:01 kaeza           hey rubenwardy, BlockMen
14:01 BlockMen        hi kaeza, nice soccer mod btw
14:02 kaeza           thanks :)
14:02 rubenwardy      Wow
14:06 OldCoder        Hey
14:06 OldCoder        My worlds are up and running. Come and play. Upgrades probably this summer.
14:06 VanessaE        hi all.
14:07 OldCoder        VanessaE, Hello
14:07 OldCoder        Things are not back to normal. One step at a time.
14:07 OldCoder        I expect to make interesting changes
14:07 OldCoder
14:08 PilzAdam        Jordach, what bug?
14:10 Jordach         PilzAdam, mobs do not move when you are in their view radius
14:10 Jordach         nor do they move if the have an incorrect following item
14:10 Jordach         (and ARE TAMABLE)
14:11 Jordach         move_within_radius = true, would solve this
14:11 PilzAdam        taming has nothing to do with following
14:12 Jordach         the two are somewhat related
14:12 PilzAdam        not at all (in the code)
14:12 Jordach         PilzAdam, in game, yes
14:12 Jordach         as sheep move naturally
14:12 Jordach         but manually when farming:wheat is near
14:13 PilzAdam        taming is just a flag to no despawn
14:14 PilzAdam        ah, the not moving when a player stands in the view radius is a bug
14:15 Jordach         see PilzAdam two bugs found in 24hours
14:15 PilzAdam        2?
14:15 Jordach         (gesture)
14:16 PilzAdam        should be fixed now
14:22 BlockMen        where is the height of nodes defined? i cant find in nodedef.cpp
14:22 PilzAdam        its hardcoded everywhere
14:23 PilzAdam        in rendereing, collision, selection box
14:23 PilzAdam        simply everywhere
14:23 kaeza           * hmmmm's mind explodes
14:24 BlockMen        PilzAdam, thats bad. how would i change the height of liquid nodes then?
14:25 PilzAdam        depends on the setting of new_style_water
14:25 PilzAdam        if its false, then liquids are rendered like normal blocks
14:25 PilzAdam        if its true then they are rendered in map_block_make_mesh_special() (or so) in content_mapblock.cpp
14:26 PilzAdam        its easy to change it in the latter one
14:26 Jordach         PilzAdam, it works
14:26 PilzAdam        Jordach, cool
14:26 Jordach         PilzAdam, wanna see what i've been doing?
14:27 PilzAdam        yea
14:27 BlockMen        PilzAdam, this -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/content_mapblock.cpp#L175 ?
14:28 PilzAdam        yea, you can change this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/content_mapblock.cpp#L188
14:28 Jordach         PilzAdam, 217.43.25.218 : 30000
14:28 PilzAdam        note that if(!new_style_water) then the method isnt executed at all
14:30 Jordach         PilzAdam, your patch doesnt fix it
14:30 PilzAdam        :-(
14:30 OldCoder        Next one may
14:30 OldCoder        Think positive
14:30 OldCoder        Jordach, Hi
14:31 PilzAdam        btw, how much hearts did bread heal in Minecraft beta (when there was no hunger bar)?
14:31 Jordach         i trapped the mob in a 7x7 house
14:31 Jordach         still sitting there now
14:31 PilzAdam        I guess i know yh
14:31 PilzAdam        *why
14:32 BlockMen        ic. so the best would be to make a new setting (other_water_style) and use a modified makeCuboid-function to make the water block not full height. then the new_water_style could still be used if wanted
14:33 PilzAdam        BlockMen, c55 said it would be best to lower the water in a post rendering process
14:33 PilzAdam        Jordach, new fix pushed
14:33 Jordach         PilzAdam, it works and it doesnt
14:33 PilzAdam        oooops
14:33 PilzAdam        wait
14:33 Jordach         not this push
14:33 BlockMen        PilzAdam, does that mean shaders? and do you know why he said that?
14:34 PilzAdam        Jordach, try now
14:34 NakedFury       Blockmen you mean to have water not take a full node space? not be 1m tall?
14:34 * VanessaE      wonders if she should be following these commits ;)
14:34 BlockMen        NakedFury, yes
14:34 PilzAdam        BlockMen, the reason why water is drawn like a normal node is that it shoudl also be affected by smooth lighting and stuff
14:34 NakedFury       that would be cool
14:34 NakedFury       what about lava too?
14:34 PilzAdam        and shaders only were a workaround
14:35 PilzAdam        if you turn new_style_water on then you can see how its lowered by smooth lighting does not affect it
14:35 Jordach         PilzAdam, IT WORKS
14:35 BlockMen        PilzAdam, ic. but when i modify the makeCuboid fukction it shouldnt affect this, right?
14:36 Jordach         <Jordach> PilzAdam, 217.43.25.218 : 30000
14:36 PilzAdam        BlockMen, ehm... dunno, talk to c55
14:36 PilzAdam        or kahrl maybe
14:36 PilzAdam        anyone who knows more about this
14:36 PilzAdam        Jordach, gimme a minute
14:36 BlockMen        PilzAdam, ok. thanks so far
14:43 BlockMen        PilzAdam, you know im a complete c++ noob, so is the syntax right when pasting this http://pastie.org/private/rh4ddtksxxkf87bqkosxag in here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/content_mapblock.cpp#L67 ?
14:43 kaeza           moar spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92031#p92031
14:43 PilzAdam        BlockMen, seems good
14:44 PilzAdam        although I would suggest to use the new_style_water setting
14:44 PilzAdam        and remove all the code for it from generate_special()
14:46 BlockMen        PilzAdam, i want to keep this option (for now) and just test if the smooth lighting still works. so i will make a commit to my repro now and hope that someone could make a build for me :)
14:50 sfan5           !server players:most
14:50 MinetestBot     sfan5: No results
14:52 sfan5           kaeza: spam deleted
14:55 BlockMen        PilzAdam, no, my idea was stupid. if i make it this way all blocks would be reduced in height when setting is true
14:56 BlockMen        seems i have to screw new_style_water and use this instead
14:57 sfan5           MinetestBot: reload server
14:57 MinetestBot     sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-05-27 14:58:55)
14:57 sfan5           !server players:most
14:57 MinetestBot     sfan5: markveidemanis Survival Server | 5.175.144.3:30001 | Clients: 7/15 | Version: 0.4.6 game | ping: 0.109
14:58 kaeza           whoa
14:58 kaeza           7 players in markv's server?
14:58 sfan5           yep
14:58 sfan5           actually I should rename it to "Sfan5's survival server" since its mine
14:59 BlockMen        what would be a example value for txc -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/content_mapblock.cpp#L46 ?
15:00 BlockMen        umm, sry. i ment for tiles in L45
15:00 BlockMen        is it "default_water.png", so the filename=
15:02 kaeza           !up 5.175.144.3 30001
15:02 MinetestBot     5.175.144.3:30001 is up (0.099s)
15:02 sfan5           0.099s... wow
15:03 kaeza           99ms... wow
15:03 kaeza           derp
15:03 VanessaE        damn it use ms in ping times, not seconds
15:03 kaeza           it's on your machine
15:03 kaeza           wait no
15:03 sfan5           kaeza: that server runs on my vps
15:04 sfan5           VanessaE: how do I get from 0.099 to 99 in a mathematical way
15:04 VanessaE        multiply by 1000?
15:05 sfan5           oh god, i'm so dumb
15:05 VanessaE        lol
15:05 VanessaE        maths FAIL :D
15:05 sfan5           i'm usually good at maths, but well...
15:05 Jordach         hey VanessaE
15:06 VanessaE        hey
15:06 Kacey           http://ifunny.mobi/f/2UfG1Qo31
15:06 Jordach         a chocolate company brought out a new chocolate
15:06 VanessaE        Kacey: heh
15:06 Jordach         its pop rocks + milk choc
15:07 kaeza           lol
15:07 VanessaE        oh G*d
15:07 sfan5           MinetestBot: reload serverup
15:07 MinetestBot     sfan5: <module 'serverup' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/serverup.py'> (version: 2013-05-27 15:09:05)
15:07 sfan5           !up sfan5.minetest.net 30001
15:07 MinetestBot     sfan5.minetest.net:30001 is up (296ms)
15:08 sfan5           !up 5.175.144.3 30001
15:08 MinetestBot     5.175.144.3:30001 is up (108ms)
15:08 sfan5           apparently hostname resolving takes 100ms
15:08 Jordach         sfan5, its python
15:08 Jordach         thats why
15:08 kaeza           Fatal Error: Tried to set a texture not owned by this driver.
15:08 kaeza           O.o
15:09 BlockMen        ok, tiles is an array that contains texture, so tiles[i].texture. where can i find what is all contained in tiles?
15:09 sfan5           maybe I shouldn't compile MT on and run an MT server at the same time
15:11 kaeza           wait...what
15:12 kaeza           I selected your server on the list, and it sent me to NotObamaLand O.o
15:12 VanessaE        sfan5: why not?  I do that all the time
15:12 sfan5           VanessaE: both cores are at 100% and the ram is full
15:16 BlockMen        found it. but can someone tell me what texture contains exactly? -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/tile.h#L202
15:16 BlockMen        *please.
15:16 iqualfragile    hehe, i guess i would have problems filling my ram
15:20 kaeza           someone should implement per-server, client-side password caching
15:20 kaeza           so it's just a matter of dbl-clicking the server list
15:28 BlockMen        any core-dev maybe?
15:38 Kacey           forum integration would be nice for minetest
15:38 Kacey           upload a skin to the forum, set it as your default skin, and then any server you joined you would have that skin
15:39 Kacey           so long as your info on the forum was set correctly
15:39 sfan5           Kacey: you have just discovered what I want to make as a mod
15:40 Kacey           sfan5, i would be happy to test it once it is made
15:40 Kacey           but it should be core to avoid to much lag
15:40 sfan5           but I need a luacurl.dll for it
15:40 Kacey           hang on
15:42 Kacey           http://www.exedllsys.com/l/luacurl.dll.html
15:43 sfan5           I refuse to download that from a site with spelling and grammer mistakes
15:44 sfan5           i'll try to compile it myself
15:56 kaeza           sfan5, what are the server rules?
15:57 sfan5           umm
15:57 kaeza           some random Guest killed me twice :(
15:57 sfan5           do not grief [END]
15:58 Jordach         why are devs getting developer
15:58 Jordach         cant i have long time member or somethin g
15:58 * kaeza         takes his almighty wooden sword and starts killing Guest infidels
16:00 Kacey           Jordach, i want a tester title
16:01 Jordach         /give kaeza default:diamond 2
16:01 Jordach         now make a diamond sword
16:02 Zeg9            Banned is good too
16:06 kaeza           Jordach, /giveme firearms:m79 :3
16:06 kaeza           (yes, there are guns in there)
16:16 Kacey           would it be possible to make a functioning computer that executes lua programs when told to that would be no threat to the server?
16:16 sfan5           Jordach: they need that to post it in News section
16:16 sfan5           Kacey: you could simple make e
16:17 Calinou         is it just me or I'm banned from markveidemanis' server :troll:
16:17 sfan5           *a kind of firewall so there can be no hardware interaction
16:17 sfan5           Calinou: umm
16:17 Kacey           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BAwuHbaJ0E like this
16:17 sfan5           Kacey: yes
16:18 Calinou         or it is just insanely slow :P
16:19 Calinou         someone called "PVTrayw" griefed the signs at hunger games spawn
16:19 Calinou         claiming they hacked the server
16:19 Calinou         but everyone can edit the sign
16:19 Kacey           n00b!
16:19 sfan5           Calinou wrote "" to sign at (-63,17,169) << really?
16:20 sfan5           danielfaber wrote "Pv Tray really hacked this world for saps like you!!!!66666666666666" to sign at (-63,17,169)
16:20 sfan5           ^ lol
16:22 kaeza           wot
16:25 Calinou         hunger decreases 3× more quickly than thirst on sfan5's server
16:25 Calinou         science
16:34 markveidemanis  sfan5
16:34 sfan5           markveidemanis
16:34 markveidemanis  Can you update the server plz?
16:34 sfan5           which one?
16:34 markveidemanis  But keep the fancy Alpha glass
16:35 markveidemanis  rba's
16:36 markveidemanis  let me give you the game...
16:38 Jordach         Calinou, i saw a pony model on xonotic earloer
16:38 Jordach         earlier*
16:38 * Jordach       has no idea how to set this
16:44 Calinou         change your "playermodel" line
16:44 Calinou         note that the server needs to have the pony playermodel installed
16:44 Calinou         playermodel models/pony.iqm
16:45 Calinou         and for other player models, replace pony with erebus/gak/whatever
16:45 Calinou         (in the console)
16:46 markveidemanis  Kacey
16:46 markveidemanis  Do you want a computercraft mod?
16:47 Calinou         do it
16:47 Calinou         .jpg
16:47 markveidemanis  I am uploading my game and it has something similar: i had the minecraft mod and took some of the textures
16:48 markveidemanis  the input device transmits the text on the digiline channe tty1
16:48 markveidemanis  however the connected textures screen would be cool
16:48 * Calinou       is on xonotic vehicle gameplay
16:48 Calinou         Jordach: play? \o/
16:51 DS_             hi
16:52 VanessaE        bbl
16:55 sfan5           kaeza: are you going to join the server again?
16:55 sfan5           !up 127.0.0.1 30001
16:55 MinetestBot     127.0.0.1:30001 is up (99ms)
16:55 sfan5           !up 127.0.0.1 30001
16:55 MinetestBot     127.0.0.1:30001 is up (100ms)
16:56 Zeg9            !ping 127.0.0.1
16:56 Zeg9            Quite a delay :P
17:04 markveidemanis  sfan5: http://speedy.sh/6Wj3n/marktwain-game.zip
17:05 sfan5           markveidemanis: speedy.sh has this premium download-priority/speed shit -> nope.avi
17:06 markveidemanis  THAT TOOK ME 30 MINS!!!
17:06 markveidemanis  Okay what do you suggest
17:07 sfan5           mediafire
17:09 thexyz          mega.co.nz?
17:09 khonkhortisan   localhost:8080/index.html
17:09 Calinou         Jordach: actually it's playermodel models/player/pony.iqm
17:10 markveidemanis  im not signing up
17:12 Zeg9            Calinou: I'll try to git pull (last one was one month ago), if it doesn't work, 0.6.0 :p
17:16 * Zeg9          likes his 260KiB/s connection
17:18 kaeza           sfan5, yes; was AFK
17:30 markveidemanis  \x03 Hi \xo3
17:30 markveidemanis  \x03 Hi \x03
17:30 markveidemanis  Hmmm...
17:31 sfan5           Hi
17:31 sfan5           hm
17:37 markveidemanis  That needs to be in a string
17:38 markveidemanis  bold font
17:38 markveidemanis  or some other wizardry
17:38 PilzAdam        spam: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=5815
17:40 sfan5           PilzAdam: deleted
17:40 MasterBot       Hello
17:41 markveidemanis  s.send("PRIVMSG #minetest \x03Hello\x03 \n")
17:41 markveidemanis  ???
17:41 markveidemanis  what is this wizardry?
17:42 PilzAdam        markveidemanis, this is not a test channel for IRC clients
17:42 markveidemanis  http://code.google.com/p/pybslib/source/browse/trunk/lib/colors.py?r=2
17:46 Calinou         for everyone, john_minetest ;)
17:46 Calinou         +c
17:47 nekofire        Hello\
17:48 PilzAdam        99 people here
17:48 PilzAdam        so close...
17:48 Jordach         done
17:48 Jordach         goddamit
17:52 Calinou         john_minetest: rainbow font is best font
17:52 troller         but 283 in #mine<CENSORED>
17:53 PilzAdam        there we go
17:53 Calinou         #freenode != #minecraft
17:54 markveidemanis  DONE
17:54 markveidemanis  http://pastie.org/7969951
17:54 markveidemanis  If anyone wants to use it
17:54 PilzAdam        !mute markveidemanis
17:55 Calinou         john_minetest: they talk about minecraft pvp, or reddit. the end.
17:55 Mustek          and generally off-topic
17:55 Mustek          but that's about it
17:56 thexyz          why mute?
17:56 PilzAdam        thexyz, I warned him several times now, but hes always offtopic
17:56 thexyz          hm.. can it kill itself?
17:56 thexyz          !kick MinetestBot
17:56 thexyz          no luck
18:13 sfan5           thexyz: actually !kick MinetestBot should've worked
18:19 thexyz          sfan5: it doesn't respect me then
18:19 sfan5           maybe ops can't kick themselves
18:19 sfan5           thexyz: try any admin command with MinetestBot
18:21 nekofire        I used the flat flaf in mintesrt.conf but the land isnt s,ooth and falt how do i do that
18:26 Calinou         nekofire: edit mg_flags line
18:26 Calinou         mg_flags = trees,caves,dungeons,flat
18:29 kaeza           so many typos... O.O
18:32 nekofire        Oh lord i just noticed that XD
18:32 nekofire        sorry im sick  my typing is kinda crappy
18:33 nekofire        and will it edit a previously made map or do youhave to make a new one
18:33 Calinou         make a new world
18:34 Jordach         huh, http://i.imgur.com/Xzj4f6H.jpg
18:35 sfan5           Jordach: wat?
18:35 Calinou         lol nice
18:35 Calinou         dat babe looking at the minetest player
18:35 Jordach         i rendered him with the viewport then gimped him on
18:36 Jordach         the original screenshot is twice the size
18:36 Jordach         (and weighs 30mb)
18:39 Jordach         mediafire ios
18:39 Jordach         is really the only other alt. to omploader
18:39 Jordach         no download limits, speed limits etc
18:40 PilzAdam        mediafire sucks, I have to enable JS for it
18:40 Jordach         PilzAdam, then find me an alternative for it
18:41 Jordach         http://www.mediafire.com/view/iscg90gwo6mir3n/Minetest_Render.png
18:41 Jordach         image without lossy compression
18:41 thexyz          Jordach: mega.co.nz
18:41 PilzAdam        lol "It appears you are using an older browser. For a better experience when using MediaFire, we recommend you upgrade your browser."
18:41 PilzAdam        firefox 21 is so outdated
18:42 thexyz          it is
18:42 thexyz          use chromium
18:42 Jordach         and heres the source files: http://www.mediafire.com/download/384y1rbf9a58c7p/Minetest_Render.zip
18:43 Jordach         oops, its not got the big image from it D:
18:44 Calinou         +1 for chromium
18:44 Calinou         Jordach: dropbox too
18:44 Calinou         but you need registration
18:44 Calinou         the client is not required
18:45 Jordach         Calinou, i have Dropbox
18:45 * Calinou       has 2.75GB
18:45 Jordach         but 2gb limit
18:45 Calinou         said "ITS COOL LOL" to the dropbox team
18:45 Calinou         followed them on twitter
18:45 Calinou         twitted about it
18:45 Calinou         you can get 16GB for free if you bring lots of people :P
18:45 * sfan5         used 84MB
18:45 sfan5           (in his dropbox)
18:46 sfan5           I recently "pngcrush -brute" compresses all pngs in there
18:46 thexyz          b-but dropbox sucks
18:46 Jordach         http://www.mediafire.com/view/wr0yan1onr9a6hk/ForzaBigshot1.png
18:47 Jordach         theres your big image source
18:47 sfan5           thexyz: why?
18:48 Jordach         huh
18:48 Jordach         you can direct link images from mediafore
18:48 Jordach         fire*
18:48 sfan5           yeah
18:48 thexyz          sfan5: http://omarabid.com/dropbox-lost-my-files-for-good/
18:49 Jordach         it does work: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92072#p92072
18:50 sfan5           thexyz: I don't use CentOS with dropbox, so ;)
18:51 thexyz          oh well, you're safe then
18:51 thexyz          blame centos
18:51 kaeza           this is for 0gb: http://ifunny.mobi/p/DZzfFkd21
18:52 sfan5           *silently does "spk cv dropboxbackup.spk ~/Dropbox"*
18:52 thexyz          wtf is spk?
18:53 sfan5           my 100%*cough* stable archive format
18:54 thexyz          but why
18:54 sfan5           why not
18:56 thexyz          how's it better than tar?
18:56 nekofire        I did that and it didnt change it it is s moother but not completly flat
18:57 sfan5           doesn't contain shit like file permission in octal string, or the magic value not at offset 0x0
18:58 proller         PilzAdam, now i can show you lot of bones
18:58 PilzAdam        proller, Im on
18:59 proller         "sky" server
18:59 PilzAdam        sky harcore?
18:59 PilzAdam        *hardcore
19:02 nekofire        so is there a way to edit the map meta too  cause the flags arent working
19:05 PilzAdam        proller, I guess you have to modify the bones mod for your server
19:05 PilzAdam        but I wont change it in minetest_game since you run a custom gamemode
19:06 proller         its _common with mods
19:06 PilzAdam        it would be too unrealistic/inconsistent if not all players create bones when dying
19:06 proller         i can make it configurable
19:07 PilzAdam        "sky" is a custom gamemode
19:07 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyQgrvKXE6k
19:08 proller         because now it good way to add mods, mkdir -p sky/mods; cd sky/mods; ln -s minetest_common/mods/* ./
19:09 proller         batter than ln to _common
19:09 PilzAdam        common is dropped anyway
19:09 proller         oops, now it ln to minetest_game
19:18 nekofire        hello could i get a anwser to my question plz
19:19 sfan5           just ask
19:21 nekofire        I have like 3 times and i got ignored I modified the flags but its still not giving me a flat world
19:22 sfan5           maybe this is a bug
19:23 PilzAdam        have you created a new world after setting it in minetest.conf?
19:23 nekofire        yes
19:24 PilzAdam        and it wasnt flat?
19:24 nekofire        nope
19:24 PilzAdam        can you paste the mg_flags line in your minetest.conf?
19:25 nekofire        # Mapgen stuff #  # Name of map generator to be used.  Currently v6, indev and singlenode are supported. #mg_name = v6 # Water level of map. #water_level = 1 # Size of chunks to be generated. #chunksize = 5 # Map generation attributes.  Currently supported: trees, caves, flat, v6_biome_blend, v6_jungles, dungeons #mg_flags = trees,caves,dungeons,flat  # How large deserts and beaches are #mgv6_freq_desert = 0.45 #mgv6_freq_beach = 0.15 # Perlin noise at
19:26 PilzAdam        only the mg_flags line please
19:26 nekofire        its ays minetest.conf.example
19:33 * NekoGloop     slaps PilzAdam
19:37 nekofire        so what do i do now
19:37 Calinou         do a barrel roll
19:39 PilzAdam        nekofire, you havent pasted the mg_flags line of your minetest.conf yet
19:57 nekofire        yes i did
19:57 nekofire        and it didnt work
19:58 sfan5           nekofire: you pasted something from minetest.conf.example
19:58 nekofire        thatas the only thing that has  flags
19:58 nekofire        mine conf doesnt
19:58 PilzAdam        well, you said you have set it and it doesnt work
19:58 sfan5           you need to put the flags into minetest.conf, minetest.conf.example is ignored
19:59 PilzAdam        but now you say you havent set it
19:59 Jordach         we need per world configurations
19:59 Jordach         when creating a world so this doesnt happen
19:59 PilzAdam        Jordach, we have
19:59 PilzAdam        oh, you mean GUI
20:00 nekofire        I did put flags in minetest.cong and nothing happened
20:01 PilzAdam        maybe you made it wrong, thats why I asked you to paste the line here
20:05 nekofire        #mg_flags = trees,caves,dungeons,flat
20:06 sfan5           remove the #
20:06 sfan5           otherwise the line will be ignored
20:06 PilzAdam        remove the # at the begining and try again
20:12 nekofire        ok
20:15 nekofire        nippe still not flat
20:15 nekofire        *nope
20:15 Jordach         nekofire, thats because the areas you are in are already generated
20:16 nekofire        Hm?
20:16 nekofire        so if i fly then
20:16 nekofire        the areas will be flat
20:17 PilzAdam        nope
20:17 PilzAdam        you need to create a new world
20:17 PilzAdam        then the flat option from minetest.conf will be used when you first join the world
20:22 sfan5           good night
20:23 nekofire        Um I crerated sevral new world with that option and it didnt work
20:23 nekofire        I have told you this
20:24 nekofire        each itime i said it didnt work it was on a new world
20:24 nekofire        I created a new world its not flat
20:26 Calinou         then your minetest.conf isn't being read
20:26 Calinou         did you save it /before/ starting the game?
20:35 nekofire        yea
20:36 nekofire        Um there was no place for flags in my minetest.conf before i added them
20:36 nekofire        address =  anisotropic_filter = 0 bilinear_filter = 0 creative_mode = 1 enable_3d_clouds = 1 enable_damage = 0 enable_particles = 0 enable_shaders = 2 liquid_finite = 0 mip_map = 0 name = Guest2363 new_style_leaves = 1 opaque_water = 0 port = 30000 preload_item_visuals = 1 selected_mainmenu_tab = 0 selected_serverlist = 0 selected_world_path = Z:\home\kristin\Desktop\minetest-0.4.6\bin\..\worlds\Test server_announce = 0 server_dedicated = false smooth_
20:36 Calinou         dat name
20:36 nekofire        this was all that was there
20:36 Calinou         Z:\?
20:36 Calinou         you're playing in wine?
20:37 nekofire        then i added mg_flags = dungeons,flat
20:37 Calinou         go to the end, add a line with mg_flags = dungeons, caves, trees, flat
20:37 nekofire        yes
20:37 Calinou         then start the game (make sure it wasn't running when you saved)
20:37 Calinou         start a new world
20:37 nekofire        ohhhhhhhhhhhhh it was running whrn i saved
20:38 nekofire        when i saved geez
20:39 Calinou         the game saves the file when you quit normally
20:39 Calinou         it will overwrite your changes since it isn't aware you edited it
20:39 Calinou         you can avoid this by killing minetest :P
20:40 Calinou         but it's better to just edit while the game isn't running
20:40 thexyz          uhh http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6115
20:44 nekofire        Yay that worked thank you so much
20:44 Calinou         "Help me please. I have to give this game tomorrow morning at school for a presentation!"
20:44 Calinou         will be fun :3
21:31 * VanessaE      is back
21:31 VanessaE        (yay.)
21:33 sokomine        hi :-)
21:33 PilzAdam        sup V
21:34 VanessaE        just checking in :)
21:38 sokomine        well...check confirmed :-)
21:42 thexyz          http://twitterbug.quietbabylon.com/
22:04 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
22:08 kaeza           [off] wat
22:14 tjbarber        how do you descend with freemove enabled?
22:14 PilzAdam        shift
22:14 PilzAdam        or E if you have aux1_descend enabled
22:18 tjbarber        ah ok thanks PilzAdam
22:18 tjbarber        hmm that's interesting PilzAdam, that's not working.
22:18 tjbarber        I'm using a Mac port though so that could be the problem.
22:19 PilzAdam        you can set a key in the Settings tab or minetest.conf
22:24 tjbarber        ok PilzAdam, I got it. For some reason the Mac didn't like Shift being used as both 'sneak' and 'descend' for some reason.
22:24 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyQgrvKXE6k
23:04 Evergreen       Hey everyone.
23:05 VanessaE        hi
23:08 VanessaE        bbl
23:10 * RealBadAngel  yawns
23:11 * Evergreen     yawns
23:13 Exio            [15:41:56] <PilzAdam> firefox 21 is so outdated
23:13 Exio            [15:42:04] <thexyz> it is
23:14 thexyz          yes?
23:14 Exio            thexyz: was that real? :P
23:14 Exio            chrom* sucks if you are a bit paranoic
23:14 thexyz          chromium is fine
23:14 tjbarber        is there a way to be able to make a 3 * 64 grid of blocks really quick? =P
23:15 tjbarber        All this clicking is driving me insane.
23:15 tjbarber        actually it's more like 3 * 256
23:15 Evergreen       2 words.  World Edit.
23:15 Evergreen       :P
23:18 tjbarber        Evergreen but where is that? =P
23:19 tjbarber        how can I access this trickery
23:19 Evergreen       It's a mod
23:19 Kacey           do you have the mod installed?
23:19 tjbarber        no =\
23:19 Evergreen       http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572 is the forum topic for it
23:20 tjbarber        ah ok, thanks man ;)
23:35 node            hi
23:38 StrayBytes      So, I am down to my final message with this (IMHO) confused community.
23:38 StrayBytes      http://pastebin.com/ueDdCF7c
23:38 StrayBytes      Thank you.
23:38 StrayBytes      *Official IRC channels
23:42 Kacey           http://i.imgur.com/spRsCsB.jpg lol look at the number of elements i have
23:45 kaeza           "(...) else I'll have to resort to MOBF get them, which I'm not wont to do (...)"
23:45 kaeza           O.o
23:45 PilzAdam        who was this StrayBytes?
23:46 PilzAdam        !sfu StrayBytes
23:46 MinetestBot     PilzAdam: No Results found
23:46 kaeza           PilzAdam, rarkenin
23:47 PilzAdam        and who is the "hex" hes talking about?
23:47 kaeza           dunno
23:47 PilzAdam        !sfu *hex*
23:47 MinetestBot     hexafraction New member 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-21 | id: 5715
23:47 MinetestBot     xTHExDEADxMANx New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-07-03 | id: 2270
23:52 PilzAdam        pm'd him, it turned out that hex is his friend that launched the DoS attacks
23:58 PilzAdam        bye