Time Nick Message 01:00 iqualfragile thexyz: basicly you would need to remove your use of numpy.matrix from onomatopoeia 01:03 iqualfragile wich seems to be more or less impossible 01:04 * ShadowNinja would love that mapper if it was faster. C/C++ version? 01:05 iqualfragile no, its not impossible, the numpy.dot method could be used 01:05 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: if that is changed it will run about half as fast as c 01:07 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: If what is changed? Something to make the python version faster? 01:07 PilzAdam bye 01:07 iqualfragile something to make the python version compatible to a much faster optimizing interpreter 01:07 iqualfragile i am trying to do that right now 01:17 iqualfragile ok, i got it to do *something* 01:19 iqualfragile thexyz: if it works i will hand you a patch, i think it makes sense to adapt it to pypy as pure python is painfully slow 01:20 iqualfragile it actualy looks like the pictures produced would look valid 01:21 * sokomine looks around a bit 01:21 iqualfragile i am benchmarking to see how big the difference is right now but it seems like onomatopoeia would support pypy now 01:22 Miner_48er sokomine 01:22 sokomine ah! there you are. you must have been hidden amongst all those users :-) 01:23 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#0 01:23 RealBadAngel some more work on shaders, ive added kinda specular effect 01:23 sokomine ok. can you state your problem, miner? there are a lot of developers here who might even be convinced to introduce another callback or know a better solution 01:23 sokomine i don't quite get what you aim at, miner, so please tell us that first :-) 01:26 Miner_48er I need a on_rightclick equilivilant of digger:get_player_name() 01:27 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix nearly all warnings d00e8bd31a 2013-05-19T18:26:56-07:00 http://git.io/C3UHcg 01:27 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: player:get_player_name() 01:27 ShadowNinja \o/ 01:31 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix lava damage on player's upper body 981c6c9bf2 2013-05-19T18:29:49-07:00 http://git.io/bU9hUA 01:32 sokomine or clicker:get_player_name() but if that really answers the question? 01:35 Miner_48er thanks i'll try those 01:35 iqualfragile thexyz: going to sleep now, posting benchmark results later today 02:01 Kacey night all 02:24 mrtux hi 02:24 mrtux how do you enable listings on servers.minetest.net? 02:51 VanessaE http://minetest.net/servers <-- bottom of the page. 02:51 VanessaE "Announcing Servers" 02:52 VanessaE put those lines in your minetest.conf for your server, tweaked as needed for your preferences. 02:57 mrtux aight 03:01 mineroflands wassup peeps 03:01 mineroflands hi oldcoder :D 03:01 mineroflands the server runs fast even WorldEdit runs smoothly 03:02 mineroflands damm this thing is dead 03:03 OldCoder mineroflands, Hi 03:03 OldCoder Really? with 512MB? 03:03 mineroflands yeah 03:03 * OldCoder is surprised 03:03 OldCoder It's good to hear this 03:04 OldCoder The engine may have improved 03:04 mineroflands loaded a schematic of 52mb in like 15 sec 03:04 OldCoder ! 03:04 OldCoder On *that* system? 03:04 OldCoder Very well 03:04 mineroflands yeah 03:04 OldCoder The hangups for interactive 03:04 OldCoder are something besides RAM then 03:04 mineroflands i still need to try to load a schem that is over 100 mb 03:04 mineroflands cause on my pc 03:04 OldCoder That may be a problem 03:04 mineroflands it says "out of memory" 03:05 mineroflands gotta see what the server says 03:06 mineroflands sfan5....are you gonna continue working on your mc to mt script for Mcedit? 03:06 mineroflands cause not all blocks are loaded 03:07 VanessaE bbl 03:08 mineroflands VanessaE unban me common 03:08 mineroflands lol 03:08 mineroflands its like 4 hours away 05:30 Miner_48er any linux users? 06:32 sfan5 hi 09:08 deasanta something / ...one may be attacking minetest servers - see metacraft sandbox in server list (210/250 users) 09:13 Calinou le me mining in minecraft, le me sees a bat, le me is scared 09:25 Calinou lol 09:25 * Calinou has 1161 HP in candy box 09:25 Calinou and 34 candies/sec 09:30 sfan5 !up uplink.io 09:30 MinetestBot uplink.io:30000 is up (0.152s) 09:34 deasanta something / ...one may be attacking minetest servers - see metacraft sandbox in server list (209/250 users) 09:34 deasanta thats uplink.io 10:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:17 VanessaE hi 10:18 deasanta hi 10:19 deasanta is something / ...one may be attacking minetest servers - see metacraft sandbox in server list (209/250 users) ? 10:19 deasanta tnx 10:20 deasanta how may online players did it show in the multiplayer tab? 10:20 deasanta i had something attack my server today and it created around 200 users 10:21 deasanta in a matter of 1 minute 10:21 deasanta http://minetest.net/servers - shows 205 10:25 deasanta from my logs today : "13:48:53: ACTION[ServerThread]: qeEX8q4pqX3a1jxV5ej times out. List of players: BXuSiAkjFC8BfSWAUSu tumacho2121 Nanoo 10:25 deasanta on_newplayer" 10:26 VanessaE john_minetest: they weren't so much replaced by streets as just never rebuilt, but there are some around. You can of course build more if you want. 10:26 deasanta yes - my server also had 200+ users on it and their names were similar to this qeEX8q4pqX3a1jxV5ej 10:27 deasanta could be a client logon go wrong 10:35 Calinou sabayon has blender in its repos? 10:35 Calinou deasanta: it's be nice if minetest had join flood prevention, +1 :P 10:57 Calinou :P 10:57 Calinou are the pastes permanent? 10:59 deasanta Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time. 11:00 Calinou k 11:28 kahrl 7 are way too few :P 11:29 * PilzAdam has 8 11:29 * kahrl had around 50 open at one point 11:29 VanessaE 3. 11:29 kahrl then I realized I don't read most of them and now I'm at 14 11:38 VanessaE 14? way too many 12:38 VanessaE sfan5: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91000#p91000 12:39 sfan5 VanessaE: that weird 12:39 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Use the group "soil" for nodes that saplings grow on 127c488355 2013-05-20T04:43:13-07:00 http://git.io/3vUcwQ 12:39 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add the soil group d015f0e2e6 2013-05-20T05:38:51-07:00 http://git.io/WvFKlw 12:39 VanessaE sfan5: that was the result of a routine move: //pos1, //pos2, //move z -1 12:40 Exio 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 95 (of which 3 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 python, 3 irc servers, 7 irc queries, 83 irc channels 12:40 Exio channels here ^ 12:41 Exio i actually read only 15~20 of them, 15 idle channels, and the rest are channels like ##linux, #gentoo, etc where i read normally but never say anything, just because you may see useful info in those channels :P 12:41 Draecal hi, does this game requires Java to be installed, or just Directx? 12:42 Exio it doens't need java or directx 12:42 Exio Draecal: and, spanish? :P 12:42 Draecal Español? 12:42 Exio argentino aca ;P 12:43 Draecal perdon, es la costumbre de hablar siempre inglés 12:43 Draecal ^_^ 12:44 VanessaE sfan5: I just repeated the move command and got the same sort of result as before. 12:44 VanessaE it destroyed the region I tried to move, and it was just dirt and stone. 12:44 sfan5 really weird 12:45 VanessaE are you up-to-date with uberi's last commit? 12:45 VanessaE (the one that was supposed to fix //move leaving stuff behind) 12:48 sfan5 no, I don't think I am 12:48 VanessaE try that 12:49 sfan5 ok 12:55 VanessaE holy shit, that's busted badly 12:55 VanessaE ;) 12:59 Draecal hi, need some help running Minetest under Windows 13:00 Draecal i need to know what requirements does it need, like Directx, Java, Microsoft c++, etc 13:02 VanessaE you should just need directx and openal I think 13:02 VanessaE definitely NOT jaba 13:02 VanessaE java* 13:02 Kacey DirectX or OpenGL will work and OpenAL for sound 13:02 VanessaE and not MS C++ if you are just running a prebuilt copy 13:02 PilzAdam Draecal, just download it, unzip and run 13:02 PilzAdam come back if it doesnt work 13:03 Draecal i've tried to run it several times with no results 13:03 VanessaE define "no results" 13:04 Draecal it open a black console windows for a few seconds, then it close, thats all 13:04 VanessaE find debug.txt in your minetest folder and pastebin whatever error messages you find there 13:04 Draecal ok, i'll check ir 13:05 PilzAdam debug.txt is usually in the bin/ folder 13:05 Draecal it* 13:05 TheNewWorldofWin Guys, is anyone else having issues connecting to the metacraft server? 13:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: strange place for it? 13:05 PilzAdam hm? 13:05 VanessaE TheNewWorldofWin: it's being attacked, apparently. 13:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: nevermind, I forget that run-in-place builds are layed out differently. 13:06 TheNewWorldofWin No shit? Great. No wonder why I spawned in greyness. Is that why 135 people are on? 13:06 VanessaE laid* 13:06 VanessaE TheNewWorldofWin: yeah. 13:06 Draecal Debug.txt is not found 13:07 PilzAdam VanessaE, you should know where things are when supporting a windows build user ;-) 13:07 PilzAdam Draecal, ok, try running Minetest from cmd 13:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: :P Windows is obsolete anyway ;D 13:07 Kacey Draecal, did you unzip the .zip folder? 13:07 TheNewWorldofWin I came to think that a small group of people like this would be loyal to a game. All of our info is protected though correct? 13:07 Draecal i use the installer 13:07 VanessaE TheNewWorldofWin: protected enough, yes. 13:07 VanessaE Draecal: whose build are you using? 13:08 Kacey i never used the installer... i would just download and extract the .zip 13:08 PilzAdam Draecal, well, the installer is experimental and nobody except the author knows how it works 13:08 Draecal o.4.6 13:08 Draecal oks, so i'll try the ZIP 13:09 zRokh hi 13:09 TheNewWorldofWin @PilzAdam I downloaded the Minitest mod/game from the forums this morning and installed it to the bin/folder, like you said. Now, everytime I try to launch, It fails. Why? 13:09 PilzAdam wut? you should install it in the games/ folder 13:11 TheNewWorldofWin Alright, will try that. Must have read the description wrong. 13:12 zRokh hi Pilzie :D 13:12 zRokh or Pilzy... 13:12 zRokh what ever pulls your leavers... 13:12 TheNewWorldofWin @Pilzadam. It gave me the same message. Failed to load. ModError. 13:13 PilzAdam can you post some information from debug.txt? 13:13 PilzAdam (in a pastebin) 13:13 PilzAdam the last ~50 lines of it 13:13 zRokh hey Pilzy :D 13:13 Draecal T.T nothing guys i've tried v.0.4.6 and v.0.4.5 with no results again 13:14 Kacey bbl 13:14 Draecal and there is no debug.txt 13:14 TheNewWorldofWin @PilzAdam Where is the Debug.txt? It is not in my minitest folder. 13:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: mayve he has a build that had debugging turned off by default? 13:15 PilzAdam it should be in your minetest directory in the bin folder 13:15 zRokh who knows stuff about india? 13:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, if minetest doesnt start at all then it doesnt generate a debug.xt 13:15 PilzAdam *txt 13:15 zRokh .xtf** 13:15 PilzAdam Draecal, try running it from cmd 13:15 zRokh :O 13:17 PilzAdam Draecal, also, what OS do you use? 13:17 Draecal nothing 13:17 Draecal XP SP3 13:17 Draecal 256 Graphics card 13:17 TheNewWorldofWin Hey, How do you want the debug. txt? 13:17 Draecal 2GB RAM 13:17 PilzAdam TheNewWorldofWin, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 13:18 zRokh TheNewWorldofWin: Plain... Possibly empty? 13:18 PilzAdam Draecal, whats the output of cmd if you try to run it there? 13:18 Draecal no output 13:18 PilzAdam thats strange 13:19 VanessaE not even an 'illegal operation' or so? 13:19 Draecal no 13:19 Draecal nothing 13:19 zRokh bye 13:19 Draecal i have everything updated 13:19 Draecal latest drivers 13:21 PilzAdam Draecal, can you run other Irrlicht apps? 13:21 Draecal i didn't try, what ones can i test? 13:22 PilzAdam ehm... maybe search for compiled Irrlicht examplese 13:22 PilzAdam -e 13:23 Draecal hey!! what about .NET Framework needed? 13:24 qwebirc176884 I am posting the topic about my bug report right now. Will be up in a few minutes. 13:24 qwebirc176884 Oh, My name changed. I am TheNewWorldofWin. 13:24 PilzAdam qwebirc176884, you dont need to create a new topic 13:25 PilzAdam just give me the link to a pastebin with your debug.txt here 13:25 qwebirc176884 How do I do that? 13:25 PilzAdam http://pastebin.com/ 13:27 qwebirc176884 Do you just need everything under the Seperator or all of it? 13:28 PilzAdam all of it 13:33 qwebirc176884 OK well, I have posted it, waiting for the page to load and I will give you a link. 13:34 qwebirc176884 No actually, No link. It says I exceeded the maximum of 500 KB. So, do you just want everything from today? 13:35 qwebirc176884 Are you there Pilzadam? 13:36 PilzAdam did you follow the HowTo? (i.e. delete debug.txt and start minetest again and reproduce the bug) 13:36 qwebirc176884 No let me do that. 13:36 VanessaE bbl 13:37 qwebirc176884 No, I get the same error. 13:38 PilzAdam of course 13:38 PilzAdam but now your debug.txt only contains the useful information 13:39 * OldCoder will be here for the day in an hour 13:39 OldCoder iqualfragile, wb. I will be online in an hour. 13:39 iqualfragile good afternoon 13:40 qwebirc176884 http://pastebin.com/i75Ne0m1 There is my error report. 13:41 PilzAdam rename the game folder to just "MiniTest" and try again 13:43 qwebirc176884 It didnt work. Bug report upcoming. 13:45 qwebirc176884 http://pastebin.com/ThXsUD7A NEW Bug report. 13:46 PilzAdam seems like a bug in jojoa's version of MiniTest 13:46 qwebirc176884 How can it be fixed? 13:47 PilzAdam maybe try to delete the creativechanger mod in it 13:47 PilzAdam or use the other version of MiniTest (see the forum topic) 13:47 iqualfragile i would rather delete the whole creativechanger modfolder 13:52 MinetestBot GIT: russplaysguitar commited to minetest/minetest: Fix link in minetest.conf.example 1ba1fb42a4 2013-05-20T06:51:21-07:00 http://git.io/n6SXxg 13:52 qwebirc176884 Well, it worked kinda. I got into the game but there is nothing different about. 13:55 qwebirc176884 Any ideas? 14:06 MinetestBot GIT: elagin commited to minetest/minetest: Save settings after dropping main menu c135e9c7d4 2013-05-20T07:03:48-07:00 http://git.io/s_vRMQ 14:10 TheNewWorldofWin OK so do we know how to fix my Minitest pack? 14:11 TheNewWorldofWin Are you the PilzAdam? 14:11 PilzAdam hm? 14:12 TheNewWorldofWin Yeah remember just a few minutes ago, I was telling you my Minitest pack was not working properly. 14:12 PilzAdam well, ask jojoa 14:12 TheNewWorldofWin Hes not on. 14:13 TheNewWorldofWin Is there another version of Minitest? 14:14 PilzAdam yes 14:14 PilzAdam I already told you to try it 14:14 TheNewWorldofWin OK, could you link me to it? 14:15 PilzAdam no 14:15 PilzAdam I have better things to do 14:25 MinetestBot GIT: metaducky AT gmail DOT com commited to minetest/minetest: Fix typo in particle spawning 5e80df46b8 2013-05-20T07:24:07-07:00 http://git.io/U64rMQ 14:29 TheNewWorldofWin @Pilz Adam So yeah, I went to download your version of minitest then relised that that was the version I originally downloaded. 14:30 TheNewWorldofWin PILZ! 14:49 Zeg9 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/157 14:50 PilzAdam you should use the one from the website 14:50 Zeg9 Oh, ok 14:53 Zeg9 PilzAdam: not sure about the license 14:53 PilzAdam WTFPL IIRC its from BlockMen 14:53 RealBadAngel hi all 14:54 PilzAdam Zeg9, you dont need to udpate the pull request 14:54 PilzAdam its easier if I push it directly 14:54 Zeg9 A bit too late... 14:55 Zeg9 Hi, RealBadAngel 15:00 iqualfragile hi rba 15:13 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add menu_header.png and remove old, unused textures c67f72890c 2013-05-20T08:04:00-07:00 http://git.io/gk_xxA 15:15 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add header.png c1cd24c378 2013-05-20T07:52:25-07:00 http://git.io/tK8kfw 15:32 webdesigner97 hi all! 15:38 rubenwardy Hi All 15:40 MasterBot heya 15:48 rubenwardy Apparently having a comic makes a server popular: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6053 15:53 Calinou having a show would be even better 15:54 Calinou anyway, lol 16:04 Jordach sunrise test will have its final sunset 16:04 Jordach traxie is leaving 16:04 rubenwardy hmm 16:04 rubenwardy lol 16:04 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you draw wheat textures? 8 growing steps or so 16:04 Jordach PilzAdam, better: get her to take some pictures then draw it 16:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, also bread, seeds and flour 16:06 markveidemanis Who can point me to some functional python Tkinter examples? 16:08 PilzAdam VanessaE, oh, and the wheat item itself 16:09 Jordach markveidemanis, #python 16:09 Jordach or gtfo 16:09 Jordach or quiet 16:09 Jordach ed* 16:09 Jordach or kicked 16:10 Jordach choose your destiny 16:10 markveidemanis It is to go to see the sun 16:10 PilzAdam not quited or kicked 16:10 PilzAdam kickban 16:11 * Jordach has almost finished UV 16:14 PilzAdam VanessaE, well, I only need the 8 growing steps and maybe seeds 16:18 Jordach is Taoki about? 16:20 Jordach also: 16:20 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BEEk1kr.png 16:20 Jordach she's almost done! :D 16:23 iqualfragile Jordach: i am *quite* shure that you want to rethink your uv-unwraping 16:23 Jordach iqualfragile, white = do not touch 16:23 NakedFury that huge texture map is looking too extreme 16:23 Jordach blame my lazyness with smart uv 16:23 Jordach but its better than the useless original UV map 16:24 Jordach (eg, it was perfectly symmetrical, but has no facial features.) 16:24 Jordach i went for the latter 16:34 Jordach john_minetest, far better than the uv i was using before: no more "green eyes" 16:35 Jordach she's at action figure point: posable, and usable 16:35 Jordach but not usable in that sense 16:35 Jordach :P 16:37 Jordach she wasnt in that view 16:41 Calinou there is no shading in minetest :P 16:42 Mati^1 hi 16:43 markveidemanis Hi Mati¹ 16:59 khonkhortisan You made a ¹ 17:00 PilzAdam kaeza, could you make it more clear that your firearms mod does not run in 0.4.6 stable? 17:01 kaeza PilzAdam, I thought I did that... hmm... 17:01 PilzAdam or tell your users to not PM _me_ when they have problems with it 17:04 kaeza PilzAdam, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65900#p65900 17:04 PilzAdam a bit more red... and a bit bigger... and a bit more blinky 17:04 kaeza lol 17:04 kaeza and why would anyone PM you about it? 17:06 PilzAdam From: "themaxstel6" Subject: " The Mod of firearms of Kaeza" Content: "Hi, I need your help with a firearmslib error of the firearms of kaeza mod is hud_set_flags error, how to fix it? please help me, I have the version 0.4.6-2 of minetest" 17:08 FourFire Hello 17:14 FourFire So does anyone know whether this clone has Cubic chunks integration, or is it as true a copy of Default minecraft as possible? 17:15 PilzAdam Minetest is not a copy of Minecraft 17:15 PilzAdam its a completly different game 17:15 PilzAdam the only thing both have in common is the "style" 17:17 FourFire fantastic 17:18 FourFire so how are blocks of data handled? 17:18 PilzAdam the world is saved in Mapblocks wich consist of 16x16x16 nodes 17:18 PilzAdam *saved and generated 17:19 kahrl node = what is called block in minecraft 17:19 Calinou lol "this clone", troll spotted 17:20 Calinou FourFire: databases 17:20 kahrl Calinou: well minetest is a clone of minetest-c55 :P 17:20 Calinou sqlite 17:20 FourFire I'm sorry I came directly from the MCF where it was referred to as such 17:22 lacrosseplayer Derp 17:24 Calinou lol 17:25 MasterBot Hi 17:25 MasterBot Hi rubenwardy 17:25 rubenwardy hi 17:26 MasterBot I bet you can guess who this is 17:26 MasterBot Im using a tkinter client... 17:26 MasterBot 3 Years old... 17:26 MasterBot apparently made by aperture science the cake is a lie 17:27 markveidemanis oops 17:28 PilzAdam markveidemanis, note that this is not a test channel for clients 17:28 markveidemanis Its perfectly good, i just closed the console accidentally 17:30 FourFire Note: I keep getting warnings upon trying to access the site https://www.stopbadware.org/firefox?hl=en-US&url=http%253A%252F%252Fminetest.net%252F 17:32 sapier FourFIre ... I don't know of any malware on minetest.net 17:33 FourFire ok, well, I'm just saying that I got two warnings from Firefox 17:33 Jordach FourFire, that warning is bullshit 17:33 FourFire who would want to obstruct someone's site like that? 17:34 Jordach FourFire, false reports do exist 17:34 Jordach usually on open source projects 17:34 sapier probably someone feeling not loved enough from minetest community ;-) 17:34 Jordach probably filed by mojang 17:34 Jordach with money behind the counter 17:36 Exio what is an opensource project 17:36 Exio >:D 17:37 * VanessaE is back 17:38 * Calinou was front 17:39 kaeza rule 34? 17:40 VanessaE kaeza: locked signs? ;) 17:40 VanessaE (and whoever came up with rule 34 should be shot.) 17:41 kaeza VanessaE, locked signs: SOON™ 17:41 VanessaE just kidding :) 17:42 kaeza VanessaE, I slept from about 14:00 yesterday to about 13:30 today 17:42 VanessaE wow 17:42 kaeza that's a record for me 17:42 VanessaE wht made you so tired? 17:42 VanessaE what* 17:43 kaeza 3 days barely sleeping 17:43 VanessaE that would do it. 17:45 kaeza VanessaE, have you tried that commit? 17:45 VanessaE which? 17:46 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/homedecor/commit/618aa5f167290a4eeffebcaee227ae3453ae8945 17:46 VanessaE oh, no not yet 17:47 kaeza I should note that Zeg9's protector is not compatible with glmie's one in this respect 17:47 kaeza apparently it defines no isprotect() function 17:47 Jordach VanessaE, seen my progress? 17:48 VanessaE Jordach: yes, looking good 17:48 Jordach VanessaE, better than the last mesh 17:48 VanessaE also, New build: c67f7289[...] 17:50 VanessaE kaeza: adding it now. 17:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, have you read the logs? 17:53 Zeg9 kaeza: it is ment to replace it, since glomie wasn't updating his mod 17:54 kaeza Zeg9, see my comment 17:54 Jordach anyways, i solved the legs issue for my model, bone 0 was using other parts of the mesh incorrectly 17:54 kaeza glomie's one provided an isprotect() function 17:54 kaeza to check area ownership from other mods 17:54 Zeg9 Mine is protector.can_dig or something like that 17:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah I saw, sorry I don't have time to work on any new textures righ tnw 17:54 VanessaE right now* 17:55 Jordach VanessaE, you my model. well, i worked out why it bugged 17:55 Zeg9 you could do if protector then else end 17:55 Jordach in minetest 17:55 Jordach its not meant for the player! 17:55 VanessaE btw, I love the bobbing when switching items 17:55 Zeg9 kaeza: I could make a compatibility module... 17:55 Jordach VanessaE, it's like picking up a dropped tool 17:57 kaeza Zeg9, thanks. I will add support for that to homedecor 17:57 Zeg9 kaeza: I don't have access to glomie's protector so I can't do it yet 17:58 Zeg9 Do you have any link to it ? ompldr is down again... 17:58 kaeza nope, sorry 17:59 Zeg9 Ok, never mind then 17:59 kaeza don't worry about it. it's easy to add support in homedecor 17:59 Calinou VanessaE, I slept from about 14:00 yesterday to about 13:30 today 17:59 Calinou remove "yesterday" and "today" 17:59 Calinou :P 17:59 VanessaE heh 18:00 kaeza (and naming it protector.can_dig is cleaner than isprotect) 18:00 kaeza Calinou, I slept from about 14:00 to about 13:30, I'm a timelord 18:01 Calinou +1 for seperating words with _ 18:01 * Calinou hates variable names like "animationinterpolationtime" 18:01 Calinou (there's one named like that in sauerbraten/red eclipse/tesseract :P) 18:01 kaeza Calinou, strcpy, strcat, itoa :/ 18:01 kaeza ... 18:02 * Zeg9 thinks this is ok for things that fit everywhere 18:02 kaeza char s[10]; copy_string_to_buffer_from_static_string(s, "Hello!"); 18:02 kaeza :D 18:03 kaeza ^ Allegro's way of naming functions 18:03 Zeg9 Oh, great. Thought this was a joke... 18:03 Zeg9 At least, you really know what it does 18:04 kaeza Zeg9, http://alleg.sourceforge.net/stabledocs/en/alleg014.html#pivot_scaled_sprite_v_flip_trans 18:04 Jordach anyways, Taoki you here 18:07 rubenwardy bye all 18:13 * Zeg9 is leaving 18:13 Zeg9 Cya everyone 18:19 Jordach quick blender render: http://i.imgur.com/XUJmOsf.png 18:27 Jordach PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/uRZJcK4.png 18:28 Jordach Taoki, welcome back 18:28 sfan5 Jordach: heres the translation http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=89934#p89934 18:28 Jordach fuck me 18:28 Jordach not literally 18:29 * sfan5 was just thinking.. 18:29 Jordach nope.avi 18:29 sfan5 the spotify web player lags.. 18:30 Jordach sfan5, use the client 18:30 sfan5 (lag = 18:30 Jordach works for me on windows 18:30 Jordach )* 18:30 sfan5 the linux client looks ugly 18:30 Jordach sfan5, it worked for me in xfce4 18:30 Jordach the only bug was i couldnt maximise it 18:31 Jordach sfan5, http://open.spotify.com/track/3mWoMjYKJkDHkCvc61F7l0 18:32 sfan5 spotify doesn't open spotify urls in the desktop client #FAIL 18:32 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont animate changing wielditem from hand to hand e57dc4ef18 2013-05-20T11:31:38-07:00 http://git.io/hpyvbw 18:32 Jordach well fuck 18:32 VanessaE sfan5: did you manage to reproduce the issue I mentioned? 18:33 sfan5 VanessaE: haven't tried it yet, been busy 18:33 VanessaE oh ok 18:33 VanessaE no worries 18:33 sfan5 i'll try it now 18:34 * Jordach turns the headset upto 11 18:36 sfan5 VanessaE: .. 18:36 VanessaE hm? 18:36 sfan5 VanessaE: I don't even need to try it, the //move command was forced to NOT use the queue even if it was enabled because It'd mess up since the quene reverses the order of actions 18:37 Jordach sfan5, flip the order 18:37 sfan5 nope.pmg 18:37 sfan5 *png 18:37 sfan5 won't work 18:37 Jordach .avi* 18:37 VanessaE sfan5: ok 18:38 VanessaE New build: e57dc4ef[...] 18:38 sfan5 removing/prepending an element from/into a table at position 0 takes 10 years if the table is big 18:38 sfan5 ^ Jordach 18:38 Jordach LuaJIT 18:38 sfan5 still takes way too long 18:38 VanessaE sfan5: let me know when an update is made and I'll give it a try here. 18:42 BlockMen PilzAdam, why is a warning shown now when a costum mod overrides a default one? 18:42 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/Mod_name_conflicts 18:45 BlockMen well, how can mods override than default mods without getting warning? 18:46 BlockMen *then 18:46 PilzAdam dunno, ask kahrl 18:46 BlockMen kahrl, you are up here? 18:47 PilzAdam BlockMen, btw, #minetest-de 18:50 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix //move again a1dcc43210 2013-05-20T11:48:12-07:00 http://git.io/pXWYpQ 18:50 sfan5 ^ VanessaE 18:54 VanessaE yay! 18:55 VanessaE sfan5: it's in. kaeza, your homedecor commit is also if you wanna try it out. 18:56 VanessaE sfan5: seems to work properly now. thanks! 18:57 sfan5 VanessaE: it just works properly because it doesn't use the queue 18:57 VanessaE right 18:57 VanessaE I wonder, it worked before uberi's commit - I wonder if the clean-up steps just needed to be enqueued? 18:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, just a side note: the only thing that is missing in farming for upstream are the textures 18:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: not using the ones you've had until now? 18:59 Jordach oh look, decent minetest_game content 18:59 PilzAdam the farming mod has only 4 growing states and the textures RealBadAngel gave me are copied from Minecraft 18:59 Calinou minetest_game will have a 4 hour life span and DLC 18:59 VanessaE ahh 18:59 Calinou like crysis 3 18:59 Calinou by the way, it would be nice if /all/ plants had 4 states 18:59 VanessaE well I'll see what I can do tomorrow then 18:59 PilzAdam I also need seed textures for cotton and wheat 18:59 * Calinou is a maniac and hates having 3 states for some plants and 4 for others 19:00 Calinou including, why not saplings? :P 19:00 PilzAdam because the textures I have currently make it impossible to read the item count 19:00 Jordach ^ first world problems right there 19:00 VanessaE can you shoot me an forum PM so I don't forget? 19:00 * sfan5 just looked at C++11 and likes "New string literals" and "User-defined literals" 19:00 Calinou echo "thing" >> TODO 19:00 Calinou :P 19:00 Calinou sfan5, that's C++11 19:00 Calinou how do you think you can kill AMD? 8) 19:00 BlockMen PilzAdam, btw...you should use the potatoes as seeds for poataoes, not poatatoe seeds 19:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, me? 19:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah 19:01 Calinou "we need more baked potatoes" --geartrooper 19:12 VanessaE Calinou: "Try disabling shaders." <-- that's becoming the "It could be lupus." of minetest ;) 19:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, its the new "Disable the texture atlas" 19:13 VanessaE right :D 19:13 VanessaE "Try blue! It's the new red!" 19:13 kaeza Pokemon approves 19:14 Calinou "try going to your local store then buy a decent graphics card" would work too 19:14 Calinou 8) 19:15 VanessaE kaeza: come to my server to give your commit a try :) 19:15 VanessaE (the fences thing 19:15 VanessaE ) 19:15 kaeza VanessaE, in a sec... compiling MT 19:16 Jordach Win NT* 19:17 kaeza Jordach, http://www.funtoosh.com/f_images/windows_vista_source_code.jpg 19:17 Jordach kaeza, WRONG 19:17 Jordach im using vista 19:18 VanessaE "asdsasdsf joined" .... "left game" 19:18 VanessaE come on people at least think of a name. 19:18 VanessaE kaeza: heh 19:19 kaeza VanessaE, * [hmmmm] (~sdfgsf@72.79.172.153): dfgadf 19:20 Calinou "incompatibily" > "incompatibility" 19:20 Calinou return LotsMoreMoney; lol 19:21 PilzAdam kaeza, SearchAndDestry([...]|ANYTHING_GOOGLE); \o/ 19:21 PilzAdam *Destroy 19:21 * PilzAdam isntalls vista 19:22 PilzAdam *installs 19:22 VanessaE my server is about to be attacked 19:22 * Calinou installs ubuntu 19:22 Calinou VanessaE, shut it down 19:22 Calinou that's all 19:22 * kaeza installs DOS 6.22 19:22 Calinou also, iptables :P 19:22 VanessaE those nick flooders are back 19:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, last time it was only 1 IP 19:23 PilzAdam -> ipban.txt 19:23 drizz VanessaE: what makes you think they will try again? 19:24 iqualfragile try to compare them to anyone online in #minetest 19:24 drizz already did that 19:24 drizz not here 19:24 VanessaE drizz: because they just did. 19:24 VanessaE a few nicks at firt. 19:24 VanessaE first* 19:25 Jordach VanessaE, mass minetest server spam from 71.164.76.159 19:25 iqualfragile publish the ip please? 19:25 Jordach wazuclan server has it too 19:25 drizz ^ 19:25 * kaeza points to cisoun's suggestion to have a global "ban list" to which server owners can refer 19:25 iqualfragile i get ninjaed by Jordach far too often 19:25 drizz but yes, iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -s 71.164.76.159 works 19:25 VanessaE lemme check 19:26 VanessaE 15:21:27: INFO[ServerThread]: Server: New connection: "KpGiGKCIaXGfFvgZL03" from 19:26 VanessaE 71.164.76.159 19:26 VanessaE yup, same IP. 19:26 drizz anyone happen to know how the verizon control port works? :P 19:26 * Jordach googles ip 19:27 drizz it's the only service running on the host 19:27 iqualfragile drizz: shure? 19:27 iqualfragile well, im checking, too 19:27 drizz did an intensive scan on both tcp + udp 19:27 cisoun kaeza: The thread was originally written for Kray's server. But I like the global list thing. 19:28 drizz lemme know if you find anything 19:28 iqualfragile jup 19:28 Jordach cisoun, wheres your texture pack huh 19:28 VanessaE BAM! 19:28 VanessaE dropped at the firewal. 19:28 VanessaE +l 19:28 VanessaE iptables ftw :) 19:28 cisoun Jordach: oh you 19:29 kaeza cisoun, it's a good idea. not as a centralized ban list, but as reference for server owners 19:29 cisoun When it's ready. 19:29 drizz use `find . -name "???????????????????" -exec rm {} \;` to remove the players, but beware, it will delete other players with 19 character names 19:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/7jwHQE2.png 19:29 Jordach cisoun, 15 years later 19:29 VanessaE drizz: thanks for the tip. deleted. 19:30 Uberi VanessaE: worldedit troubles? check out my post! 19:30 VanessaE Uberi: seen sfan5's fix? 19:30 Uberi hmm? not yet 19:30 cisoun Jordach: not that long :-> 19:30 kaeza Jordach, fun fact: that site says I'm in Argentina 19:30 VanessaE he already put through a workaround :) 19:31 Uberi oh awesome :) 19:31 cisoun But I found that new textures have just been added to Minetest. 19:31 sfan5 Uberi: the block queue reverses the operation order because table operations are very performance-costly, that why //move doesn't work with the block queue 19:31 cisoun I have to work on this too. 19:31 Uberi that makes sense 19:32 VanessaE still, it would be a good idea to make it work with the block queue anyway if at all possible. 19:32 iqualfragile anybody near East Greenbush? 19:32 Uberi yeah, it will work if the block queue does things in the opposite order, but that could be costly performance-wise 19:32 iqualfragile (new york?) 19:33 Calinou Jordach, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91063#p91063 19:33 Calinou it's official "I am brain damaged" day! so do that! 19:33 Calinou #minecraft #troller #hashtags 19:33 Calinou #perlin #heightmaps #floatingislands 19:33 VanessaE iqualfragile: not I, sorry 19:34 * Calinou rolleyes 19:35 proller i cant visit links now 8( 19:35 Calinou oh hai 19:38 proller wow, i can! but nothin intresting 19:38 Calinou only perlin hills 19:39 Calinou proller, by the way, can I get unbanned from sky hardcore please? I promise I won't grief again, I thought it was allowed 19:40 proller no 19:42 iqualfragile i am sorry, but are you stupid? 19:42 iqualfragile shure, there are one or two serververs wich explicitly state that they are grief-sevrers 19:43 iqualfragile but why the f would you assume griefing to be allowed? 19:43 Calinou iqualfragile, "hardcore" 19:43 iqualfragile yeah, i hope you feel "hardcore" now 19:44 * Calinou rolleyes 19:44 proller hardcore = spawn in sky and hard road to ground 19:44 Calinou do you even play minecraft to know what's "hardcore" in minecraft? 19:44 Calinou well, I apply that principle to minetest pretty much because both are very similar games 19:44 Calinou hardcore pvp means you can grief, steal freely 19:44 Calinou except in protected areas 19:44 Calinou (tip: protect the spawn) 19:45 PilzAdam tip: no static spawn == nothing to protect 19:46 proller Calinou, you spend days to grief, and destroy 8000+ blocks - its not normal 19:46 Calinou the spawn is static on sky hardcore 19:46 Calinou proller, it is 19:47 Uberi what did you give him WE privs or something 19:47 iqualfragile VanessaE: you could just call 1-800-837-4966 (verizon) and complain about a kiddie running scripts 19:47 iqualfragile i think that that might be a good idea 19:48 Calinou Uberi, no, diamond pick 19:48 Calinou iqualfragile, who does that? 19:48 * drizz wonders if he has a monthly bandwidth quota.. 19:48 Calinou ISPs never gave a fuck about attackers, that's a fact 19:48 Calinou that's like saying ban evasion or cheating will get you jailed, never happened :P 19:49 Uberi as long as you keep paying them money 19:49 Calinou 8) 19:50 proller Calinou, make your hardcore server, enable infinity nuke mod, and enjoy... alone.. 19:50 Calinou if I made an hardcore server it wouldn't have infinity nuke 19:50 Calinou also, alone? 19:50 Calinou there are hardcore pvp servers on minecraft with constant 60+ players :P 19:50 Calinou but I still won't make one :P 19:50 VanessaE iqualfragile: much easier to permblock them at the firewall. 19:51 Jordach VanessaE, if thats a hacker then you can get him sent down 19:51 * kaeza loves the new "change wielditem" animation 19:52 Calinou makes you feel like you're playing TF2, huh 19:52 Calinou but without hats 19:52 proller mc have x1000 more servers and players 19:52 Uberi that can be remedied! 19:52 Calinou they do 19:52 Warr1024 holy fuck, lots of activity over the weekend. 19:52 Uberi [mod] HATS [0.4.7] 19:54 iqualfragile i never knew geolocation was that accurate 19:54 Uberi you should check out my geolocation lib 19:54 Uberi it has about 10m accuracy in urban areas 19:55 iqualfragile http://geoiptool.com/en/?IP=71.164.76.159 19:56 Jordach Uberi, same for my iPad 19:57 Uberi yeah they use the same provider, GLS 19:57 Uberi or maybe ios used skyhook, can't remember which one 19:58 iqualfragile maybe we should send him a letter? 19:59 Calinou lol 19:59 Uberi send who? 20:00 iqualfragile the guy who spams minetestservers with a lot of registrations 20:01 Uberi same IP each time? 20:01 VanessaE yup 20:02 Uberi that doesn't sound too bad to me 20:02 iqualfragile jup, just a letter to his parrents would do wonders 20:03 VanessaE good luck with that 20:03 Calinou lol 20:03 Uberi iqualfragile: IP != physical address 20:03 iqualfragile i am aware of that 20:04 Uberi OK, gotta make sure though 20:04 iqualfragile but the geolocation of that ip was quite precise 20:04 Calinou precision depends 20:04 iqualfragile (at least it looked precise…) 20:04 Uberi iqualfragile: IP geo generally gets the right city to within 100km 20:04 iqualfragile 'merica 20:05 iqualfragile http://geoiptool.com/en/?IP=71.164.76.159 20:05 Uberi for me, my IP gets a nearby city 20:05 testman42 Will minetest be coming on Steam? Steam is stable, not just alpha or beta, and I would really like to see Minetest avaliable there. Since there is no Minecraft on Steam, I believe that Minetest would have quite an advantage on popular games distribution platform. Please, let developers consider putting it on Steam. I really hope that minior license conflicts would not be much of obstacle. 20:05 VanessaE why would we use steam? 20:06 VanessaE that's for commercial games et.al 20:06 drizz not anymore 20:06 drizz with their greenlight initiative 20:06 VanessaE minetest is free 20:06 VanessaE oh 20:06 testman42 yep 20:06 PilzAdam is it completly free to put minetest on steam? 20:06 Warr1024 as long as steam doesn't violate the GPL, it's my understanding that anyone can put minetest on steam. 20:06 Calinou VanessaE, warsow is on steam 20:07 iqualfragile no, its not 20:07 VanessaE oh ok 20:07 PilzAdam Warr1024, *LGPL 20:07 Calinou it's a FOSS game but 100% of the art is proprietry :P 20:07 Calinou proprietary* 20:07 drizz pretty sure it's free 20:07 drizz lots of indie devs are doing it 20:07 iqualfragile you need to pay 100$ to get it on steam 20:07 Calinou ^ 20:07 * Jordach has that kind of money 20:07 drizz really? $100? 20:07 Calinou if you donate $100 we'll do it, testman42 :P 20:07 Warr1024 ah, in that case, I guess it'll be on steam as soon as somebody coughs up the $100. 20:07 Calinou else, no :P 20:07 Calinou also, we need to iron out the license problems 20:07 Uberi Calinou: the art is WTFPL and GPL, I believe 20:07 testman42 OK, I will start saving money for it :) 20:07 Calinou we're going to get a lot, because: 20:07 Calinou 1) game and art is free 20:08 Uberi testman42: put up a kickstarter! 20:08 Calinou 2) minecraft-lookalike 20:08 testman42 Good idea 20:08 Uberi Calinou: minecraft-lookalike is no big deal 20:08 drizz could start a donation fund for this specific purpose? 20:08 Uberi it's original content, nothing is "copied" from any copyrighted content 20:08 PilzAdam kickstarter is a bad idea; we will never sell Minetest 20:08 drizz not kickstarter, just for the website 20:09 iqualfragile http://steamcommunity.com/games/765/announcements/detail/1317556891741839763 20:10 Uberi and apparently the money goes to Child's Play too, so it's not like it's being wasted 20:10 drizz I actually happen to have ~$20 on my paypal account that isn't going anywhere 20:10 Calinou lol 20:10 Calinou desura UX was made by gnome 3 devs 20:10 Calinou and noone uses it 20:10 Calinou Uberi, minecraft is a trademark 20:10 Calinou and minetest looks very similar 20:11 Uberi Calinou: they did not trademark all block based games 20:11 khonkhortisan nor voxels 20:11 drizz he does have a point, though 20:11 Calinou but "minetest"'s name is similar to "minecraft" 20:11 drizz the art do very much look like minetest 20:11 Calinou it is, but you're forced to use it to play TF2 :P 20:12 drizz eh, like minecraft 20:12 drizz see, can't even differentiate the names 20:12 Uberi Calinou: Macrosoft is a company with a similar name to Microsoft, but that doesn't make it infringing 20:12 Calinou WTF is macrosoft? 20:12 Uberi (and yes, it does actually exist :O) 20:12 drizz Uberi: if they were to look like microsoft, it might :P 20:12 Uberi apparently a software dev company too 20:12 iqualfragile Calinou: there were other blockbased before minecraft 20:13 Uberi drizz: not according to US and Canadian copyright/trademark law :P 20:13 Calinou iqualfragile, I know, I'm talking about the name here 20:14 Calinou night 20:14 Uberi see ya 20:14 drizz http://minetest.net/support 20:14 drizz $122.8 :P 20:15 ShadowNinja Paste flood protection seems to work. I am enabling it. 20:16 Uberi drizz: :D 20:18 sfan5 <Calinou> we're going to get a lot, because: 20:18 sfan5 get a lot ...? money? 20:18 Warr1024 problems 20:18 Uberi 99 of them, to be specific 20:19 Warr1024 Frankly, I don't think Mojang has a trademark on the name "mine" or names in the form of "mine*" 20:19 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: 20:19 iqualfragile t 20:19 iqualfragile e 20:19 iqualfragile s 20:19 iqualfragile t 20:19 iqualfragile i 20:20 Warr1024 if it comes to it, we could rename it to something like DigTest (since you dig nodes instead of mining blocks). 20:20 sfan5 Uberi: related http://xkcd.com/1171/ 20:20 iqualfragile k 20:20 khonkhortisan you got to i 20:20 iqualfragile i was about to ask that 20:21 Uberi sfan5: hahahah 20:21 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: There are about five different flood detection methods active now. You tripped a different one. 20:22 ShadowNinja And test flooding somewhere else. 20:26 Warr1024 don't bother posting unrelated xkcd's; just wait a while and it will eventually be related... 20:31 kaeza /me points at non-renewable lava 20:31 Uberi oh man is lava nonrenewable again? 20:31 * Uberi puts on some popcorn 20:32 testman42 wait, lava was renewable before? 20:33 kaeza yep 20:33 Uberi in the build game IIRC 20:33 kaeza I don't care either way 20:33 iqualfragile there is no build game anymore… 20:33 Uberi exactly 20:33 Warr1024 renewable lava is a nice idea, so long as it's not as trivial of an operation as renewable water is. 20:34 kaeza wat 20:34 VanessaE iqualfragile: everything's been recombined into minetest_game, like it was meant to be ;) 20:34 Uberi that's what I said when the debate was on, Warr1024, I couldn't agree more 20:35 iqualfragile i know, i read the changelog and im in #minetest and #minetest-dev for about 14 hours a day 20:35 Warr1024 I like the idea that lava is more valuable than water, though I'd eventually like to see every resource renewable, at least in some way. 20:36 Warr1024 making the player have to build up a tech tree and solve puzzles to unlock renewability, though, can be a nice gameplay approach. 20:36 Uberi Warr1024: would you be fine with using mods to achieve this? 20:36 Uberi I'm thinking of making my very first content-centric mod, MT-Renewability 20:36 Warr1024 Uberi: is there any way to play MT and NOT use mods? I mean, the whole thing is built as a set of modular components... 20:37 proller try find lava spring in indev mapgen 20:37 proller with finite liquids 20:37 iqualfragile not compleetly modular, you cant use homedecor and xyz signs together! 20:37 VanessaE Warr1024: technically, no. Hell, even minimal contains a couple of mods. 20:38 thexyz not my fault 20:38 Warr1024 do finite liquids have a significant impact on server performance? 20:38 VanessaE iqualfragile: because homedecor already HAS thexyz's signs in it. 20:38 Uberi Warr1024: it can in some cases 20:38 iqualfragile see, thats not good 20:38 Warr1024 I'm sort of wondering whether it's safe to design with finite liquids being ON as my "target" configuration, but I was worried about how it would scale. 20:39 VanessaE iqualfragile: don't start that again please. 20:39 iqualfragile ok 20:39 PilzAdam NOOOOOO! http://xkcd.com/859/ 20:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: and a missing comma will haunt you for a WEEK. 20:39 VanessaE ;) 20:39 Warr1024 xkcd needs its own protocol spec, a la xkcd://859 20:39 Uberi ah much better 20:40 Warr1024 (or xkcds://859 for you SSL junkies) 20:40 Uberi Warr1024: yeah wouldn't want other people to see which xkcds you're viewing now would we 20:40 Warr1024 Uberi: I'd be more worried about them altering the data in transmission, possibly messing with the punchline... 20:41 VanessaE Uberi: it is, after all, about romance, math, etc.. we can't have THAT in modern society. 20:41 VanessaE damn subversives. 20:41 Uberi crazy talk 20:41 Warr1024 xkcd #859 is also frowning at me from my browser title bar. 20:44 VanessaE bbl 20:54 kaeza is there a way to tell github to omit a commit when doing a pull request? 20:55 Uberi kaeza: I don't believe so, no 20:55 kaeza meh, I'll just open the request and let VanessaE take care of the details 20:55 Warr1024 every commit depend on all its predecessors. 20:56 Warr1024 you can only omit the ones on the end, by pointing a branch at ones further up the tree. 20:56 Uberi kaeza: make the change with git locally and repush 20:56 Warr1024 git push --force to overwrite an old branch 20:57 kaeza I have three commits, but the first one was already cherru-picked and merged by her 20:57 kaeza cherry* 20:58 Warr1024 ah, in that case, I'd try rebasing your 2nd commit against the latest head. 20:58 Warr1024 of course, I'm a shitty rebaser, so I'd just cherry-pick my own 2nd and 3rd commit into a new branch against that head :-) 20:58 Warr1024 (the effect is more-or-less the same). 20:59 kaeza bleh 20:59 kaeza I'll just use my 'nuke' command 20:59 kaeza and re-clone 20:59 Warr1024 it really depends a lot on whether your particular upstream is very fussy about maintaining a linear history or not. 20:59 proller Warr1024, finite can make slower at 5-10 minutes, when falling big volumes of liquid 21:00 proller for example when filling huge caves 100x100x100 21:01 Warr1024 proller: I guess I'm just wondering whether I should expect that to be a problem or not... if I were to hollow out a huge cave under the ocean and then blast its ceiling, then I'd expect a lot of slowdown from the liquid, but then again, a lot of explosives can slow down the game a lot too... 21:02 Warr1024 how graceful will it slow down, too...? Will everything crawl, or will the liquids just get more "viscous" relative to the rest of the world, i.e. as if it's being managed on a separate thread? 21:02 proller not very slow on 0.1 updating interval 21:02 proller its procsess only 1000 blocks in one iteration 21:03 Warr1024 I'm hosting on very modest hardware. CPU-wise Sempron 140 single-core 64-bit @ 2GHz, 8GB DDR2, OpenBSD 5.2... 21:03 Warr1024 ah, so if there are more than 1000 blocks, then the rest of the world will still run? 21:03 proller no problem 21:03 Warr1024 maybe I'll experiment with it some more 21:04 proller its process 1000 blockes every liquid_update = 1.0 21:04 Warr1024 I once dug a deep core into the earth below an ocean and eventually reached a point where the water source blocks had unloaded and I had to climb back up to get more water. 21:04 proller sometimes queue can be 100000+ blocks 21:05 Uberi almost 2 mins to finish 21:05 Warr1024 so if I have a queue of 100,000 nodes of water, then that would mean that water would flow at 1% its normal speed relative to the rest of the world (which is kind of a shame) but the performance of other aspects of the game would not likewise be slowed to that speed? Sounds like a good compromise... 21:05 proller yes 21:06 Warr1024 Awesome, thanks. 21:07 proller i have ideas about make water falling as sand but not finished yet 21:07 Warr1024 I guess it's time to change the way I play :-) 21:07 proller it can increase speed 21:10 sfan5 good night 21:12 PilzAdam http://xkcd.com/1184/ 21:15 iqualfragile night sfan5 21:17 Warr1024 n'aight 21:42 kaeza PilzAdam, lol 21:42 kaeza I stared at the formula for about 10 mins before I understood that :/ 21:43 kaeza s/that/the joke/ 21:54 kaeza wut https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3287202424.jpg 22:01 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/19 23:46 Pentium44 hi all 23:46 Pentium44 how are we today? 23:47 Pentium44 everyone, I am here to tell you that I setup a minetest server for the people who think minetest 0.4.5-0.4.6 is bloated. The server version I have setup is 0.4.1 23:47 Pentium44 I personally found minetest 0.4.1 a great release