Time Nick Message 00:00 Jordach lucky 00:00 OldCoder Not sleeping on the floor any longer. I will blog that shortly. 00:00 Jordach things have turned for the better today 00:00 OldCoder Oh? 00:00 Jordach you can sleep confortably 00:01 iqualfragile good evening 00:05 VanessaE bbi 00:05 VanessaE bbl, too 00:05 Jordach hello Taoki 00:15 Jordach ugh, hot laptop leg syndrome 00:17 sokomine iqual: that was what top said 00:18 iqualfragile have you found the reason? 00:19 iqualfragile if you are on ubuntu it might be the update of the xapian index for the software center 00:20 sokomine no, not really. but unlike the previous build that was about a week older this one does behave more nicely...the computer becomes unresponsive, but at least killing can still be done (somtimes even by successfully waiting for the esc-menu to show up eventually). before that, i had to resort to magic sysrequest to get control back 00:21 iqualfragile btw: #minetest-de 00:21 sokomine oh. might be useful to figure out whom to talk to in german in msgs :-) 00:22 Jordach hey sokomine 00:22 sokomine just joined minetest-de as well 00:23 Jordach didnt see you here sokomine :P 00:23 * Jordach thought you were on wazuclan 00:23 Exio i'll join! 00:23 sokomine ah. so that was at least good for something :-) 00:23 Exio what if i don't speak german btw 00:23 Jordach use #minetest 00:23 sokomine i'm there as well...or was there before i had to shutdown the client again 00:23 Exio ew 00:23 Jordach silly Exio 00:24 sokomine exio: that's bad :-) then you won't be able to talk to a certain percentage of the community/modders/developers in their native language :-) 00:24 Jordach we might as well as give PilzAdam the rights to minetest anyways 00:24 Exio sokomine: c55 is finnish 00:24 sokomine hm. hope it's not that bad and you'll all get along 00:24 Jordach yes, i've had enough of the fighting 00:25 PilzAdam Jordach, wut? 00:25 Exio that doesn't mean i need to learn finnish to talk with him correctly 00:25 sokomine even if users like me complain sometimes...the game *did* make huge progress in the last month 00:25 Jordach actually, come to think of it, theres a hidden problem 00:25 Exio and english isn't even my native language, :P 00:25 Jordach and i know why 00:25 sokomine exio: thank god. i don't know finnish either 00:25 Jordach its been hidden since may 2012 00:25 sokomine what's yours then? 00:25 PilzAdam Exio, what is your native language? 00:25 Exio spanish 00:26 Exio i'm from argentina, near to kaeza :P 00:26 sokomine ah. thought kaeza started a channel for spanish speaking people as well 00:26 PilzAdam I know someone who knows someone who knows someone who can speak a little bit spanish too! 00:26 Exio xD 00:26 Exio sokomine: i know 00:26 Jordach fuck. that. shit. 00:26 Exio i'm in that channel :P 00:27 sokomine ah, fine 00:27 PilzAdam Jordach, May 2012... wasnt that the time where the API was almost done and the development kinda stopped for some time? 00:27 Jordach PilzAdam, wrong. 00:28 Jordach lkjoel was the FIRST TO LEAVE FROM THE "EVIL DEVS." 00:28 Jordach and that has been hiding within the community since. 00:28 PilzAdam Jordach, well, he wanted to rewrite Minetest in Java IIRC 00:28 Exio what 00:28 iqualfragile wut? 00:29 Exio the fuck? 00:29 Jordach PilzAdam, wrong. 00:29 PilzAdam wasnt he the lead dev of blockplante AKA Minetest++? 00:29 Jordach he was banned from -dev for just asking a simple question 00:29 PilzAdam *Blockplanet 00:30 PilzAdam Jordach, and what question? 00:30 Jordach it was a real fix for speed hacking 00:30 Jordach not just a hack 00:30 Jordach that's the first domino to fall 00:30 PilzAdam wheres the log? 00:31 Jordach i aint digging it up 00:31 Jordach not when its 1am 00:31 PilzAdam well, I need to read it myself to judge it 00:31 PilzAdam but I know that #minetest-dev was more strict in the past 00:33 iqualfragile Jordach: its 2:30 around here :) 00:33 Exio 21:30~ 00:34 iqualfragile and i should get some sleep 00:34 iqualfragile well, good night then 00:40 arsdragonfly iqualfragile : 'night 00:41 PilzAdam bye 01:32 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/H85xmut.jpg 01:32 RealBadAngel i made some normals already :) 01:33 sokomine that seems to be very high-res 01:34 Exio source? 01:35 sokomine ah: this time my client crashed: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "std::bad_alloc" 01:35 RealBadAngel 128x 01:35 sokomine hm, my build is already a week old..hm 01:44 Kacey wow... 01:45 Kacey everyone else here leads kinda eventful lives... 01:45 Kacey but me? im just a little farmboy caught in the middle of drama 01:45 Kacey and that is as eventful as my life gets 02:16 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/I9w7vLF.jpg 02:24 ShadowNinja Ugh. Terrible internet. I wonder what it is... 02:25 sokomine it looks completely diffrent with such a high-res texture pack 02:29 ShadowNinja Well if someone can help. dmesg is full of this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5679144/ 02:40 sokomine problem with the driver of your network card? 02:45 ShadowNinja sokomine: Yes, alx ethernet. 02:58 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 03:03 ShadowNinja Hello! 03:11 khonkhortisan um, shouldn't I have this big MINETEST above my menu? 03:11 khonkhortisan Or does it not do that with clouds? 03:18 ShadowNinja Grrr. Does someone know where I should ask for help? 03:19 thefamilygrog66 ShadowNinja: help with what, exactly? 03:20 ShadowNinja My network. 06:48 ShadowNinja I rewrote ShadowBot's auto-sleep. Hopefully it still works. Now I shall go to sleep. 07:39 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 07:39 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (0.556s) 08:22 deasanta hi - is there any way thru lua to change a texture client side only? 08:29 [0gb_us] No, Lua only works server-side. Sorry. 08:30 sfan5 It works!!!! 08:30 sfan5 \o/ 08:31 deasanta tnx - 0gb 08:34 RealBadAngel sfan5, what works? 08:35 sfan5 RealBadAngel: the "host a server behind a firewall w/o touching the router" thing 08:35 sfan5 although when there are multiple connections at once, they seem to interefere 09:02 Calinou \\\\\\\o/////// 09:02 arsdragonfly sfan5 : uPnP? 09:02 Calinou ultra thick arms for being vote kicked off a TF2 server 09:44 kaeza deasanta, there's a mod to change player skins. you can't provide your own skins though 09:44 kaeza actually, you can, but the server owner must install them for you 09:47 deasanta tnx - cant remember when i asked that question :) 09:47 kaeza [05:22:14] hi - is there any way thru lua to change a texture client side only? 09:47 kaeza there :) 09:48 [0gb_us] That's not client-side image changing. 09:48 deasanta ah - referring to texture of block - such as an LCD display 09:48 kaeza [0gb_us], so? 09:48 kaeza I'm providing an alternative 09:48 [0gb_us] So it's not what was asked. 09:49 [0gb_us] It doesn't help with the problem, the problem didn't involve player textures. 09:49 deasanta i want to know if i can change the png displayed on a node client side only to reduce lag 09:49 [0gb_us] It's an alternative problem, not an alternative solution. 09:50 kaeza [0gb_us], could you please shut the fuck up? 09:50 deasanta tnx - i wanted to know tht anyway kaeza 09:50 arsdragonfly media_fetch_threads = 8 09:50 [0gb_us] Why? I'm not doing anything wrong .... 09:50 arsdragonfly in minetest.conf 09:50 arsdragonfly what's this line for? 09:51 jin_xi hm, i'm thinking about new ways to abuse a new feature. gonna try to use path finding for generating of streets :O 09:51 IceCraft Mornin` 09:51 kaeza jin_xi, :D 09:57 Calinou deasanta: hello mr. ixrai12345 09:58 deasanta deasanta: hello mr. ixrai12345 ??? 09:58 Calinou lag isn't slow performance, by the way 09:58 Calinou you can use texture packs to change textures client side 09:58 Calinou but you need to know the texture name 09:59 deasanta tnx to all :) 09:59 kaeza the solution would be to install the mods locally, and copy the textures into a texture dir 10:00 kaeza (or bug the server owner to host a remote media server/whatever that is called) 10:02 Calinou you can do that on dropbox :P 10:02 markveidemanis Hi 10:02 Calinou no need to host your own remote media server 10:02 markveidemanis I am looking for a digilines mod to replace mesecons 10:04 arsdragonfly VanessaE:you said it takes minutes to join your server due to UDP? 10:04 arsdragonfly then will hosting a remote media server solve the problem? 10:06 kaeza it's only good when you join for the first time (or there are new mods) 10:07 kaeza if the media files are already cached there's no advantage using remote media server 10:07 kaeza {{cn}} 10:08 kaeza also, the perceived "load time" can be cut down drastically by disabling "preload item visuals" 10:09 kaeza (at the cost of some lag later in game) 10:11 arsdragonfly kaeza :that crashes my graphic card when I enable moreblocks 10:19 Calinou how about getting a graphic card with more than 128MB of VRAM :P 10:19 Calinou it works for me 10:21 kaeza > more than 128MB of VRAM <-- I have an integrated Intel card w/128MB, no probs whatsoever 10:23 Calinou shared with system RAM :P 10:23 markveidemanis im on the internet 10:23 Calinou you probably don't have a GT3e which isn't even released :P 10:23 Calinou (and will be insanely expensive) 10:23 kaeza I'm on a chair 10:23 markveidemanis potential leak of data... 10:23 markveidemanis http://news.silobreaker.com/potential-leak-of-data-simple-password-5_2266717037927596032 10:24 markveidemanis WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS 10:24 Calinou cool story bro 10:24 Calinou YOU 10:24 markveidemanis IT WAS FINE ON PASTEBON 10:24 markveidemanis PASTEBON*** 10:24 markveidemanis sorry key broken 10:24 Calinou PASTEBUN 10:25 Jordach huh 10:25 kaeza http://pastebon.com/ ? 10:26 Jordach dafuq john_minetest 10:27 IceCraft Hey Jordach 10:27 Jordach hello IceCraft 10:27 IceCraft How are you? 10:27 Jordach not bad, just repaired two fucking computers 10:27 Jordach the isp's DNS ne 10:27 Jordach never works* 10:28 Jordach so i just set them to google's dns and they just work. 10:28 Jordach IceCraft, oh and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lGNGw-H4o 10:28 IceCraft AH 10:28 IceCraft Oh 10:28 IceCraft Sorty caps 10:29 Jordach thats fine 10:30 IceCraft Nice Jordach :D 10:31 Jordach i wonder if pilzadam uses google's dns 10:31 webdesigner97 hello! 10:31 IceCraft Hi 10:31 webdesigner97 Is it possible to run a chatcommand from the api? 10:31 kaeza hey webdesigner97 10:31 kaeza yes 10:31 webdesigner97 great! 10:32 webdesigner97 how? 10:32 kaeza minetest.chatcommands["status"].func("foo", "") 10:32 kaeza (h4x) 10:32 webdesigner97 foo is the name of the command and the 2nd param is for params? 10:33 webdesigner97 ah no 10:33 webdesigner97 status is the name of command 10:33 kaeza "foo" is the name of the player invoking the command 10:33 kaeza and "" is the param 10:33 webdesigner97 ah, ok 10:33 webdesigner97 great! thx very much! 10:33 kaeza np :) 10:34 webdesigner97 oh no... this codes gives me "access violation" :( 10:35 kaeza theoretically should work 10:35 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/chatcommands.lua#L7 10:35 webdesigner97 this happens more or less often to me 10:35 webdesigner97 :/ 10:37 webdesigner97 but it should work. I'll find out when it's on my server :D 10:37 VanessaE hi all 10:37 webdesigner97 hi 10:38 Calinou hi 10:38 Calinou john_minetest: +1, the noise reduction works well, already tested 10:38 Calinou set it to -5dB or so to prevent distortion, keep it conservative 10:38 Calinou the default setting (-15dB afaik) is just insane 10:39 kaeza hey VanessaE 10:39 Calinou 34 candies/sec! 10:39 Calinou just upgraded! 10:39 VanessaE hey 10:40 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/homedecor/commit/618aa5f167290a4eeffebcaee227ae3453ae8945 10:40 Calinou the next candy upgrade costs 30250 klp 10:40 Calinou john_minetest: I know 10:40 VanessaE kaeza: cool 10:41 Calinou 1104 HP 10:41 webdesigner97 bye all :) 10:41 kaeza VanessaE, still working on the locked signs 10:41 * Calinou will receive their QH-90 in 2 days :p 10:41 VanessaE kaeza: don't forget to block editing also :) 10:42 VanessaE thanks for the help 10:42 kaeza (note: locked signs would be a nice addition to mt_game) 10:42 kaeza since we have locked chests, why not? 10:42 kaeza VanessaE, np :) 10:42 markveidemanis Il tell you why not: 10:43 markveidemanis locked leaves, locked wood, locked water, locked___ 10:43 Calinou locked air 10:43 VanessaE markveidemanis: not a very good reason at all. 10:43 markveidemanis It happened with stairs!!! 10:43 markveidemanis and slabs 10:44 kaeza wut 10:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: wtf are you talking about? 10:44 proller and locked Calinou 10:46 kaeza john_minetest, xzibit approves 10:46 VanessaE markveidemanis: the whole point of a locked item is to keep others from modifying it; locked signs have been around since July of last year, we're just looking at adding 3d versions to homedecor to go along with the regular ones. 10:49 markveidemanis What does random_input = true ;; do 10:49 markveidemanis haha LOL 10:49 kaeza brings landmine to the keyboard 10:49 xiong I have installed Minetest 0.4.4. Should I be using a more recent stable version? 10:49 kaeza xiong, 0.4.4 is so 2012 10:51 markveidemanis dont, random noobs will flood the forums 10:51 VanessaE xiong: get the latest git build instead. 10:51 markveidemanis I am looking for some digilines addons 10:52 VanessaE xiong: the last stable was 0.4.6, but this far out from its release, it's not really considered up-to-date anymore 10:52 xiong VanessaE, they say the pioneers are the guys with arrows in their backs. How about 0.4.6? 10:52 VanessaE morning, bas080 10:53 Jordach hey VanessaE 10:53 bas080 good morning VanessaE, 10:53 Jordach lololol hepatitus bee 10:53 VanessaE xiong: 0.4.6 is okay. You really should use a nightly build or a "latest git build" for your OS e.g. one of pilzadam's or sfan5's or mine. 10:54 xiong Ah, thanks; I'm sure you understand my viewpoint. 10:54 kaeza fun fact: latest git is no more stable than "stable" version 10:54 kaeza (or actually, the other way around) 10:54 VanessaE kaeza: and generally no *less* stable to be fair :-) 10:55 kaeza of course :) 10:55 VanessaE xiong: of course. Most people avoid "latest git" or similar for some projects because of the idea that it's unstable. That usually isn't the case here. :-) 10:55 VanessaE but it is bleeding edge, so expect the occasional paper cut :D 10:56 xiong Yes well. I'm very new with this, I won't know the difference between a bug and something I haven't yet figured out. 10:56 kaeza xiong, there are no bugs in this game 10:57 VanessaE xiong: that's okay, some of us are that way also :D 10:57 kaeza just lots of "features" 10:57 VanessaE kaeza: they're all undocumented features? :P 10:57 xiong So far I have manufactured a cell phone out of sand; I think this is a consequence of being in some test world. I just want the "regular" world, whatever that is. Not available in 0.4.4, I guess. 10:57 kaeza minimal... 10:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:58 VanessaE xiong: right, that's a test object, you need to get minetest_game alos 10:58 kaeza hey PilzAdam 10:58 VanessaE also* 10:58 xiong What's scarier is that the cellphone (Test Tool) can be used to create a Test Node 1... which is advertised as doing stuff. 10:59 kaeza xiong, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game 10:59 xiong Thanks, kaeza; but I think I'm doing to get the 0.4.6 .deb 11:00 jin_xi ok, pathfinding results are nice... but i was hoping for more nodes inbetween. but this combined with my turtle branch should make nice roads and stuff possible. maybe it can even be abused to find good locations for spawning structures... 11:01 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/zzZKRB5.jpg some path 11:02 markveidemanis What can i do with cmake . _____ 11:02 markveidemanis in minetest like enabling curl 11:02 markveidemanis atm i do cmake . -DENABLE-CURL=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 11:04 iqualfragile what was your question? 11:08 arsdragonfly If it doesn't take hours to compile,we can release this game as a rolling update one :-) 11:09 arsdragonfly or we can pack it into .deb 11:10 arsdragonfly afaik VanessaE only has amd64 daily builds 11:10 VanessaE arsdragonfly: it takes about 6 minutes on my machine to do run-in-place, package it, do system-wide, and package that to deb and slackware 11:10 VanessaE plus a few more minutes to upload the results to my web space. 11:10 xiong Ah, where do I find the apt-line? 11:11 arsdragonfly btw the ubuntu repo seems to be broken 11:11 VanessaE my builds are at, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5515 11:11 xiong This is usually shown pretty obviously. I'm looking here: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 11:11 VanessaE the ppa is at, https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds 11:11 arsdragonfly and hasn't been fixed yet 11:11 xiong Well, never mind the Ubuntu, I hope I'm in the right place. 11:12 xiong I'm looking at a web page, though. I need an apt line. 11:12 arsdragonfly apt-get install minetest will give you 0.3.1 11:12 arsdragonfly :-( 11:12 VanessaE I don't make i386 builds because I don't actually know how 11:12 xiong arsdragonfly? I think that depends entirely on what sources I have chosen. 11:12 VanessaE xiong: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds; sudo apt-get install minetestc55 11:13 PilzAdam + sudo apt-get update 11:13 VanessaE well, apt-get update also of course. 11:13 arsdragonfly xiong :the default repo 11:13 VanessaE bah, ninja'd. 11:13 PilzAdam I actually do this too currently, to check if the new recipe works :-) 11:13 arsdragonfly VanessaE :consult PilzAdam for cross-compiling :-) 11:14 VanessaE arsdragonfly: he cross-compiles to windows, not linux :) 11:14 xiong Well, I don't think this is something I want, anyway, yes. I already have something better. 11:14 arsdragonfly that's how he made windows builds i'm afraid? 11:14 markveidemanis I am looking for a way to get a chat service going 11:14 VanessaE markveidemanis: use one of the dozens of chat services that already exist. 11:14 arsdragonfly oh yes I mean cross-architecture 11:15 markveidemanis Sometimes freenode is inaccessable to me or down 11:15 markveidemanis I need to make a simple server for some basic communication 11:15 markveidemanis The aim of this is for me to learn some socket connections 11:15 PilzAdam markveidemanis, OFTC is better when freenode 11:15 markveidemanis I have a layout i'd like to use 11:15 PilzAdam never saw an netsplit there 11:16 jin_xi hmm, this pathfinding gives me a new idea for a mob: mountain goats! 11:17 PilzAdam lol, I just imagine what the simple mobs API would do in mountains 11:17 PilzAdam they would probably jump off the next cliff 11:18 Jordach PilzAdam, do you use google's DNS? 11:18 Jordach 11:18 PilzAdam no, I use the one from my provider 11:18 Jordach shittykabel.de 11:18 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7929019 11:18 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7929024 11:18 markveidemanis COMBINE! 11:19 markveidemanis Help please 11:19 markveidemanis I hate the terminal so want to use this layout 11:19 markveidemanis My Idea::: 11:19 markveidemanis ONE terminal server or: 11:19 markveidemanis 2 clients where the internet is the server 11:19 markveidemanis 1) establish connection 11:20 markveidemanis 2) send text] 11:20 markveidemanis But a bit more complex, like nick, but thats client side 11:20 markveidemanis I will need to make 2 scripts: one for the server and 1 for the clients 11:20 markveidemanis 11:21 markveidemanis Lang? 11:21 PilzAdam markveidemanis, stop being offtopic 11:21 markveidemanis Plz help, john 11:22 markveidemanis I know i need sockets 11:22 PilzAdam markveidemanis, this is not the correct channel 11:22 markveidemanis Im sorry PilzAdam 11:22 markveidemanis >>>#mtmt 11:23 PilzAdam john_minetest, lol 11:25 markveidemanis http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1020839/how-to-make-a-simple-command-line-chat-in-python 11:26 PilzAdam bbl 11:28 kaeza john_minetest, Allegro! :D 11:31 webdesigner97 hi again 11:32 VanessaE hey 11:33 VanessaE :P 11:38 RealBadAngel before: http://i.imgur.com/ac470TI.png and after: http://i.imgur.com/jnH8qDX.png 11:39 RealBadAngel texture pack is sphax's one 11:47 jin_xi RealBadAngel: nice 11:47 xiong VanessaE, I understand your viewpoint but I really avoid daily builds. And I'm having difficulty reverse engineering the apt line of the stable repository. 11:49 VanessaE xiong: fair enough 11:52 xiong Okay, well... I can work around this, ugly or not; or give up. Would you be kind enough to tell me where the apt line is given? 11:53 xiong I believe this page should contain it: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 11:53 xiong But I do not see it. 11:53 VanessaE I already gave you the command for it 11:54 xiong I'm not here to fight. 11:54 VanessaE xiong: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install minetestc55 11:54 xiong That's a very complete answer to a question I didn't ask. If you think I'm just being obnoxious, I'm sorry; I'll give up. 11:55 VanessaE not at all, I'm just saying that what you're asking is sort of unsupported 11:55 xiong That's fine. 11:55 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/v2cwx#0 11:55 xiong I assume daily builds is unsupported, too. 11:56 RealBadAngel some Haven bumpmapped nodes 11:56 VanessaE xiong: actually, daily builds is the preferred way 11:57 xiong I'm a big guy, I take responsibility for my actions. If "stable" turns out bad and my machine catches fire and runs away with my wife after feeding my dog razor blades, I will not blame you. May I have the stable apt line, please? 11:58 xiong It should be staring me in the face, right on that page. I don't know why I don't see it. Maybe because it's 5 am. 11:59 VanessaE xiong: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install minetestc55 11:59 VanessaE that's the stable repo. 11:59 xiong Thank you. 11:59 VanessaE and it's horribly outdated now. 11:59 xiong Good. I like old. 12:03 xiong Nope, that's not it, sorry. 12:03 markveidemanis Help... 12:04 VanessaE that's all we have for linux I'm afraid - the outdated one (0.3.x), stable (which is 0.4.6) or daily builds (which is practically 0.4.7 by now) 12:04 xiong I have added to that 'precise main', needed for a complete apt line. 12:04 markveidemanis I want to use socket to host a python server which people can connect to and send messages along, the server will respond by sending the message to the address provided 12:05 xiong 'precise1 main' -- not it. 12:05 VanessaE xiong: why don't you just run the command I gave you? 12:05 VanessaE that's the stable repository as linked from the minetest.net Downloads page 12:06 xiong That's a shell command, or rather, three of them. I'm sure you know this. 12:06 VanessaE of course. 12:07 VanessaE and that's the officially supported way to install the PPA. 12:08 xiong Might we both, as intelligent beings, meet levelly in the world of discourse? I would like to know the correct apt line of the stable PPA. Really. No more, no less. I have skills, not unlimited; and I don't want to bore anybody with a longwinded justification of my reasoning, important only to me. 12:08 xiong I don't know everything, don't pretend to do so. 12:08 VanessaE ... 12:09 Koren omg 12:09 xiong But http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ precise main 12:09 xiong ... is not it. 12:09 xiong Neither are several random variations and semi-educated guesses. 12:10 xiong Or, perhaps, it is exactly correct and some weirdo issue is interfering; in which case I apologize. 12:11 VanessaE when you said it's "not it", what precisely is wrong? 12:11 xiong Not locating that resource. Look, if you sincerely think that's the full, complete, correct apt line, then please accept my apology. I'll continue to try to troubleshoot my end. 12:13 xiong I'm getting a 404. 12:13 VanessaE beats me if it's right, but it looks correct. 12:14 Exio /home/exio4/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 704: 32145 Segmentation fault $STEAM_DEBUGGER "$STEAMROOT/$PLATFORM/$STEAMEXE" "$@" 12:14 Exio :( 12:14 Koren I have no 404 here 12:14 xiong I'm sorry, let's just leave it. I wanted to try this for fun, not to make a fuss. 12:14 VanessaE you would have had this long since solved if you had done what I said in the beginning. 12:15 VanessaE instead, you try to argue for the use of something that is generally not supported by us. 12:15 xiong Right. Not arguing. Just asking. I've gotten all the help I can expect. Thank you. 12:16 * VanessaE grumbles 12:24 VanessaE bbl 12:27 PilzAdam !join #minetest-de 12:28 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 12:28 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 12:33 xiong I have successfully installed Minetest 0.4.6, with a little do-jiggery. Thanks for the help. 12:33 jin_xi yay, have fun with it! 12:34 xiong Thanks, jin_xi, I shall. 12:56 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7929270 13:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, just ignore him 13:01 PilzAdam yes 13:01 markveidemanis TEST 13:01 markveidemanis TEST 13:38 markveidemanis Okay, im done who wants to test the chat server 13:39 markveidemanis python client.py NICK HOST PORT 13:40 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/x8ul1c 13:40 markveidemanis python client.py NICK 86.165.88.57 9999 13:40 PilzAdam !kick markveidemanis stop 13:42 OldCoder Good morning 13:42 iqualfragile good morning 13:42 * OldCoder will be online for the day in about an hour 13:42 OldCoder o/ 14:30 PilzAdam zimg.eu 14:30 PilzAdam but its down too :-( 14:33 markveidemanis Sendspace 14:35 Exio imgur 14:58 Calinou read: "the launcher doesnt work" 15:02 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7j5jtVFmXI mind = blown 15:03 Calinou read: Kacey = blown 15:03 Calinou we knew that already :) 15:03 Kacey lol 15:04 iqualfragile Kacey: i would run if i were you, he is french 15:04 rubenwardy Hi all 15:04 Calinou iqualfragile: JIM MORRISON FOREVER 15:04 Kacey and i am american... we are even 15:04 Calinou hi rubenwardy 15:05 PilzAdam iqualfragile, normally the french people run away :-p 15:05 iqualfragile :D 15:23 Jordach hello OldCoder 15:24 OldCoder Jordach, Good afternoon 15:25 Jordach thats a accurate statement 15:25 Jordach an* 15:26 * OldCoder is pleased 15:26 Jordach that should be usual 15:27 OldCoder 15:29 Mika_R Hi 15:29 OldCoder john_minetest, It is not. It is a meta-statement. An acknowledgment. Mika_R Hi! 15:29 Mika_R Old, got an europe server yet? 15:29 Calinou hi OldCoder and Mika_R 15:29 Jordach hai* 15:30 PilzAdam john_minetest, dont try to discuss, he wont stop posting empty lines 15:30 Mika_R Been away a few months 15:30 PilzAdam also, OldCoder, wb 15:30 OldCoder PilzAdam, they are intended to be polite. And thank you. 15:31 OldCoder Mika_R, I have a Europe VPS. I intend to step back into MT gradually. I expect to restore the Europe world as it was in January. 15:32 Jordach OldCoder, create a staging server for testing 0.4.6 LevelDB 15:32 OldCoder Jordach, yes 15:32 Mika_R Ok 15:32 Fern hi 15:32 Jordach rathen than restore a world 15:32 OldCoder Both 15:32 OldCoder There is Time 15:32 Guest96018 Hey do anyone of you know where I can download the latest minetest version? 15:33 Calinou Guest96018: http://minetest.net/download 15:33 Calinou how about googling next time :P 15:33 Guest96018 I did but I found a bunch of the older releases 15:33 Guest96018 not the latest 15:33 PilzAdam Guest96018, what do you mean by "latest"? 15:33 PilzAdam stable or current dev version? 15:33 Guest96018 0.4.6 15:33 PilzAdam what OS? 15:33 Guest96018 Lubuntu 15:33 Kacey 0.2 seconds of lag... MUST FIX INTERNET!!!!! 15:34 PilzAdam https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable 15:34 Jordach Kacey, -0.2 15:34 PilzAdam Guest96018, this ppa contains 0.4.6 15:34 PilzAdam do you know how to add it? 15:34 Guest96018 Thanks Adam 15:34 Guest96018 I think so 15:34 Calinou or just compile it with my one line script 15:34 Calinou both ways work 15:36 Guest96018 What's a PPA? 15:37 PilzAdam Guest96018, its a personal package archive, if you add it then you can install Minetest in your normal package manager 15:37 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: New modsystem 45fcc9de29 2013-05-18T17:15:36-07:00 http://git.io/gSksOA 15:38 Guest96018 One last question how do I change my name back to Fern? 15:40 Kacey /nick fern 15:40 PilzAdam /nick Fern 15:40 PilzAdam but it seems like its registered, so you cant use it 15:40 Kacey O_O 15:40 Calinou /nick Dead_shrub 15:40 PilzAdam someone else "owns" the nick 15:41 Calinou not me.jpg 15:41 Guest96018 Did it work? 15:41 Guest96018 :( 15:41 Calinou /nick Fern_ 15:41 Calinou 8) 15:41 Calinou doesn't work? /nick Fern__ 15:41 PilzAdam Calinou, no! my IRC client is broken, it cant show your image 15:41 Calinou and so on 15:42 Calinou PilzAdam: your image? 15:42 lacrosseplayer . 15:42 PilzAdam not me.jpg 15:42 lacrosseplayer There we go 15:45 * john_minetest is watching a soyuz video at arianespace.tv that is moderated by a french guy who speaks english with an extreme accent 15:46 Calinou lol 15:46 Calinou better watch CCC videos 15:46 Calinou pink haired girls talking about security 15:46 Calinou FUN 15:47 Jordach better watch CCCP videos 15:47 Jordach russians talking about the communism 15:47 Mika_R Watch hockey Fin - USA 15:48 Calinou space videos 15:49 Jordach space core.jpg 15:49 Calinou Jordach.webp 15:50 Jordach Calinou.rm 15:52 lacrosseplayer Hmmmm I can't seem to figure out what to do to update my minetest xD 15:52 iqualfragile lacrosseplayer: os? 15:52 lacrosseplayer Lubuntu 15:52 Jordach i was going to ask CTCP Version 15:53 iqualfragile lacrosseplayer: do you use the ppa? 15:54 lacrosseplayer I don't know how to use a PPA 15:55 iqualfragile sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds 15:55 PilzAdam sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55 15:56 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/1qsCu#0 15:57 iqualfragile sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55 minetest- 15:57 RealBadAngel ^^fully operiational bumpmapping code :) 15:57 iqualfragile grass looks wrong 15:58 Jordach and clementine crashes again 15:58 RealBadAngel lol, it is BUMP MAPPING :) 15:59 iqualfragile we have a favour for punny puns around here 15:59 Jordach bump mapping, isnt that a skill for navigating bumped forum topics 16:00 PilzAdam awww, again: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90903#p90903 16:01 Jordach aww, i was going to post: ...how many reports you get? 16:03 lacrosseplayer That's alot of files to download 16:04 lacrosseplayer I'm not sure if I have enough storage for all of them, I only have 1Gb left on this flash drive 16:05 markveidemanis 86.165.88.57:30000 TEST 16:05 PilzAdam minetest is only arround 4 MiB 16:05 Jordach !up 86.165.88.57 16:05 MinetestBot 86.165.88.57:30000 is up (0.155s) 16:06 markveidemanis try 9999 16:07 lacrosseplayer The update thingy didn't work 16:07 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix regression of world loading caused by 81c863ac f577facf79 2013-05-19T09:07:00-07:00 http://git.io/BN0v2A 16:07 lacrosseplayer What exactly were those terminal commands suppose to do? 16:08 iqualfragile first one adds a new software source 16:08 iqualfragile (place to get software from) 16:08 iqualfragile next updates your informaiton about the software 16:08 lacrosseplayer Oh 16:09 iqualfragile installs minetest from ppa (& uninstalls old minetest if you used my command) 16:09 lacrosseplayer :( I don't have minetest after doing those commands 16:10 iqualfragile enter minetest into the konsole 16:10 Calinou RealBadAngel: wait for night, make a floor of cobble with bumpmaps 16:10 iqualfragile what do you get? 16:10 Calinou place a torch 16:10 rubenwardy 100% indev version of my game: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/IndevPlatformer.png 16:10 Calinou and screenshot 16:10 rubenwardy 10-30 minutes of work 16:10 rubenwardy HTML% 16:10 rubenwardy HTML5 16:13 Calinou ugly :P 16:14 Jordach the cake is a lie 16:15 Calinou the chocolate cake is the truth 16:16 OldCoder Chocolate never lies 16:18 rubenwardy It is a puzzle game, and the aim is to collect cake to unlock the exit from the level 16:18 rubenwardy It is VERY ugly 16:18 Jordach thats just portal without the lie 16:18 rubenwardy portal is not a platformer :P 16:19 rubenwardy I might give it this sort of 3d effect: http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/04/BBT01.jpg 16:19 rubenwardy what do you think? 16:20 rubenwardy lol, i used -- in javascript :p 16:20 rubenwardy accidently 16:21 * Jordach just created a model for minetesting 16:22 RealBadAngel Calinou, without: http://i.imgur.com/VxX1jV6.png and with shaders: http://i.imgur.com/DZND43r.png 16:24 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Remove no virtual dtor warnings, make MapgenParams contain actual NoiseParams 93474c4218 2013-05-19T09:22:20-07:00 http://git.io/UbDFpA 16:26 kaeza holy shit 16:26 kaeza it even turns chests into pickaxes :DDD 16:26 Calinou RealBadAngel: meh, it'd be more obvious if you used more "noisy" textures 16:26 Calinou your effect looks fake 16:27 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/v2cwx#0 16:27 Kacey afk 16:28 Zeg9 Hi 16:28 kaeza Hi 16:30 Calinou bump mapping is called bump mapping when it accounts for light directions 16:30 Calinou else, it is /detail mapping/ 16:30 Calinou like OA does 16:30 Jordach FUCK 16:30 * Jordach never knew right click sampled colour in blender image editor 16:30 RealBadAngel light is hardcoded atm 16:30 RealBadAngel since we dont have hardware lights yet 16:30 Jordach kaeza, i could fix my model in a day 16:30 Jordach :P 16:31 RealBadAngel Calinou, that what are you talkin about are specular maps 16:31 Calinou no 16:31 RealBadAngel lights. bump mapping is exactly what you can see on those pictures 16:31 Calinou how about googling 16:31 Calinou and seeing what other games do 16:31 iqualfragile no, specmaps are about shining 16:31 Calinou and asking game devs 16:32 iqualfragile bumpmaps influences shadows, too 16:32 Calinou so = detail mapping 16:32 RealBadAngel maybe. 16:32 RealBadAngel but since theres no hardware light it will look just this way 16:33 RealBadAngel when it will be aviable, makin this work will be as easy as pass light source coords to shader just 16:34 iqualfragile can you try enabling hardware light? 16:35 Jordach phase 1: UV Remap 16:35 Calinou iqualfragile: needs a lighting recode 16:35 Calinou and is slower 16:35 iqualfragile i know 16:49 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Install mods/mods_here.txt instead of mods/minetest/mods_here.txt b2577b1f27 2013-05-19T09:47:58-07:00 http://git.io/JO2sxA 16:57 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Split init.lua into several files ea6d504b01 2013-05-19T09:43:04-07:00 http://git.io/vYdxyQ 17:03 * Calinou just saw a floating red rose 17:03 Calinou generated 17:05 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7930046 17:05 markveidemanis give it a go, someone 17:05 PilzAdam !mute markveidemanis 17:05 jojoa1997 hi guys 17:05 PilzAdam I told you to stop 17:05 jojoa1997 what did you tell me? 17:05 PilzAdam I mean markveidemanis 17:06 jojoa1997 anything new added to minetest 17:06 PilzAdam yes 17:06 PilzAdam see the changelog 17:08 PilzAdam !mute *!*@*86.165.88.57* 17:08 PilzAdam !unmute markveidemanis 17:09 * PilzAdam hopes that he has not muted everyone 17:10 ShadowNinja Repetition flood protection seems to be stable. I have enabled it. Paste flood has been tuned to allow larger pastes. If I don't get any warnings from it I will enable it. 17:10 khonkhortisan Is it or is it not enabled? 17:11 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Repetition = True; Paste = False 17:11 khonkhortisan ah 17:12 PilzAdam ah 17:12 PilzAdam ah 17:12 PilzAdam ah 17:12 khonkhortisan rep rep rep rep rep repitition 17:12 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Only message repitition. 17:12 khonkhortisan :) 17:13 ShadowNinja MasterBot == markveidemantis 17:14 khonkhortisan minus the webchat 17:14 PilzAdam hist hostmask contain his IP 17:14 PilzAdam -t 17:14 PilzAdam and thats muted 17:15 PilzAdam so, good try markveidemanis :-) 17:16 PilzAdam markveidemanis, I will -q you tomorow or so 17:16 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: No, the bot host has the format xx-xx-xx-xx. Not xx.xx.xx.xx. 17:17 Exio ShadowNinja: ? 17:17 PilzAdam oh 17:17 Jordach your bot does not consider chat length 17:17 ShadowNinja Exio: host86-165-88-57... 17:18 Jordach so i could in theory have a really long spammy message 17:18 Exio [14:18:06] -- [#minetest] *!*@*86.165.88.57* quieted by MinetestBot (~MinetestB@5.175.144.3) on Sun, 19 May 2013 14:08:08 17:18 ShadowNinja Jordach: Yes. Some people(including me) write long messages. 17:18 Exio ShadowNinja: it is not like you can change your rdns and avoid a quiet/ban 17:18 Exio it will work 17:18 * khonkhortisan inserts [000A] 17:19 Jordach well then. it's completely possible for me to type "this this this this this" repeatably 17:19 MasterBot Hello 17:19 MasterBot I am a master Hacker 17:19 PilzAdam ... 17:19 Jordach bullshit 17:19 ShadowNinja Exio: No, he has the same IP, but it is seperated by - instead of . 17:19 PilzAdam !op 17:19 Jordach youre using a mobile dongle 17:19 MasterBot Maybe 17:19 PilzAdam !unmute *!*@*86.165.88.57* 17:19 Exio ShadowNinja: exactly 17:19 PilzAdam I guess that isnt needed anymore 17:19 MasterBot Uh-oh 17:20 MasterBot this is a half made piece of tkinter bullshit that doesnt work 17:20 PilzAdam MasterBot, just stop being offtopic with your python stuff 17:20 Exio ShadowNinja: banning the ip will ban all the hosts what can resolve to it 17:20 ShadowNinja Use * instead of ./- ;-) 17:20 Exio that is insane 17:20 markveidemanis Hi 17:21 MasterBot Actually this client is not bad 17:21 Exio if you want to ban 1.2.3.4 and use * instead of . you would end with a ban to 12.x.34.x 17:21 Exio a "maybe k" solution would be using ? 17:21 ShadowNinja Exio: It is a hostmask ban. Not a IP ban. As you can see. Only IRC ops can place IP bans(D or X-Lines I think). 17:21 khonkhortisan Master hackers use BT5R3 17:22 kaeza or quiet both :) 17:22 Exio ShadowNinja: the ircd will check if there is a ban what match to the ip of X user or the actual hostname 17:22 Exio banning *!*@localhost would ban 127.0.0.1 as banning 127.0.0.1 would ban localhost 17:22 ShadowNinja Exio: Then how did MasterBot speak? 17:23 Exio [14:19:06] »»» MasterBot (~MasterBot@92.40.253.136.threembb.co.uk) has joined #minetest 17:23 Exio if you mean with that, it is other ip 17:23 markveidemanis Every time i connect to the cell towers i get a different ip 17:23 MasterBot hi 17:23 Exio ^ that 17:23 ShadowNinja -!- MasterBot [~MasterBot@host86-165-88-57.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has left #minetest [] 17:23 Exio ShadowNinja: tell me what life of "that connection" said anything 17:23 MasterBot hi 17:23 khonkhortisan Can someone buy a static cell phone ip? 17:24 PilzAdam Idea: we +q *!*@* 17:24 khonkhortisan Does that include me? 17:24 PilzAdam no 17:24 ShadowNinja markveidemanis: Stop flooding with joins and parts. 17:24 lacrosseplayer Cause they all be hatin on mah swagg 17:25 markveidemanis ok, im testing elsewhere now 17:25 * khonkhortisan pretends to give channel operator status to khonkhortisan 17:25 lacrosseplayer :( 17:26 lacrosseplayer Does anyone know a good minetest server? 17:26 * lacrosseplayer derp 17:26 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Mine. :-) 17:26 lacrosseplayer What's the IP? 17:27 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: up 67.241.154.164 17:27 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 67.241.154.164:30000 is up (0.125ms) 17:27 PilzAdam is there any "faster" way to get OP from ChanServ than "/msg ChanServ OP #minetest PilzAdam"? 17:27 Exio a script 17:27 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: !op 17:27 lacrosseplayer Shadow your server doesn't work 17:28 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Explain. 17:28 Exio ./oquiet , /oop, /obankick, /okick, /oban 17:28 Exio etc :P 17:28 lacrosseplayer It says my client version is unsupported 17:28 Exio ShadowNinja: can you check your invites? just a bit :P 17:28 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: If ChanServ fantasy was enabled you could have ChanServ OP you like that. 17:28 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, yea 17:28 PilzAdam just for other channels 17:29 lacrosseplayer It says your server version is 0.4.6 but I still can't connect 17:29 khonkhortisan SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_AUDIO); and alcOpenDevice(NULL) both leak memory 17:29 sfan5 !op 17:29 sfan5 !deoo 17:29 sfan5 !deop 17:29 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: I run latest git. You should still be able to connect. 17:29 lacrosseplayer Arwe you sure? 17:30 khonkhortisan if anyone bumps the protocol number it won't work 17:30 lacrosseplayer :( weird it says your protocol is 13 20 and mine is 3 30 17:31 lacrosseplayer I'm not sure the links that Adam gave me were the right links to update :( 17:32 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Windows? 17:33 lacrosseplayer Nope Lubuntu 17:35 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: mkdir ~/minetest && cd ~/minetest && git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git . && cmake -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make 17:35 lacrosseplayer What? 17:35 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Run that is a terminal. 17:36 Calinou you need deps 17:36 Calinou also, you're doubling the minetest dir 17:36 Calinou git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git && cmake . && make 17:36 Calinou this 17:36 Exio where is the cd 17:36 Calinou also, stop recommending people to use run-in-place, non-run-in-place is much cleaner 17:36 lacrosseplayer I don't understand a thing you guys are saying 17:36 Calinou by default you're on homedir 17:36 Calinou anyway, we're just confusing him 17:36 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 17:36 Calinou lacrosseplayer: ^ 17:36 Exio git clone will not "cd" you to the directory what it generated 17:37 Exio Calinou: ^ 17:37 Calinou take the first block of text, copy it, open a terminal and paste it 17:37 Calinou Exio: ah 17:37 lacrosseplayer It's kinda of hard to follow multiple peoples instructions at the same time and figure out where goes where 17:37 lacrosseplayer Also how do you paste into terminal? 17:38 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Richt-click or Edit->Paste. 17:38 lacrosseplayer Which one do I use if I'm running Lubuntu on a USB? 17:39 lacrosseplayer "portable" or should I stick with "non-portable" 17:40 Calinou non-portable 17:40 Calinou portable means you put the _game_ on a USB drive 17:40 lacrosseplayer Ok 17:40 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Either. non-portable means system-wide. 17:40 Calinou also, why are you using a live USB? 17:40 iqualfragile waitaminute 17:40 iqualfragile lubuntu from an usb-stick 17:40 Calinou enjoy your shitty performance because you don't have proprietary drivers :P 17:40 Calinou installed or not? 17:40 iqualfragile can you even write to /? 17:40 Calinou it's all in the RAM 17:40 Calinou also, "system wide" isn't correct 17:40 Calinou user data is in ~/.minetest 17:40 Calinou but program data is in your homedir 17:41 Exio portable is self-container 17:41 lacrosseplayer I'm using a live usb because I'm testing a ton of Linux distros 17:41 Exio portable is self-contained * 17:41 Exio lacrosseplayer: get a working one, then 17:41 Calinou heh 17:41 Calinou xubuntu for the win :-) 17:41 ShadowNinja Arch :-) 17:41 lacrosseplayer My USB does work....... I wouldn't be able to chat if it wasn't 17:41 ShadowNinja (With XFCE) 17:41 Exio debian sid+exp / gentoo 17:42 Exio lacrosseplayer: i mean, a working one in the harddisk ;P 17:42 lacrosseplayer Also I can't copy and paste it into terminal 17:42 lacrosseplayer Why would I do that if I'm not even going to be using Lubuntu? 17:42 iqualfragile strg+shift+v 17:42 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Right-click and click paste. 17:43 lacrosseplayer That doesn't work 17:43 lacrosseplayer There is no paste 17:43 lacrosseplayer What button is strg 17:43 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Edit menu -> Paste? 17:44 lacrosseplayer There is no "Edit menu" 17:44 lacrosseplayer I'm not using WIndows 17:44 Calinou Ctrl+Shift+V 17:44 Calinou the end 17:45 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: I know, you should still have one. 17:45 Calinou by edit menu, they mean, right click inside the terminal ;) 17:45 lacrosseplayer I don't 17:45 lacrosseplayer I tried that.................... 17:45 Jordach b-b-b-bonus! 17:45 Calinou weird 17:45 Calinou Ctrl+Shift+V once you focused on terminal should always work 17:45 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: What terminal emulator are you using? 17:45 Jordach i fixed the "floaty joints" in my model 17:46 lacrosseplayer I've tried many things there simply isn't a way to paste directly into terminal sadley. 17:46 lacrosseplayer XTerm 17:46 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Install xfce4-terminal. 17:46 Exio middle nick 17:46 Exio ShadowNinja: he is using lubuntu, lxterminal you mean 17:46 lacrosseplayer I'm running REALLY low on USB storage 17:46 lacrosseplayer I'm down to like 50Mb 17:46 ShadowNinja Oh, right. 17:47 Jordach lacrosseplayer, tip: sudo rm -r * 17:47 Exio lacrosseplayer: install kterminal >:D 17:47 iqualfragile Jordach: stfu 17:47 iqualfragile :D 17:47 Exio s/kterminal/konsole/ 17:47 iqualfragile its konsole Exio 17:47 iqualfragile oh 17:47 Jordach ninja'd 17:47 lacrosseplayer But if I just want to update Minetest 17:47 iqualfragile use the lubuntu terminal 17:48 iqualfragile 50 mb will be enought for minetest 17:48 iqualfragile it should allready be installed 17:49 Kacey i have a blog now! 17:49 lacrosseplayer Yes I know I have it already isntalled 17:49 lacrosseplayer But apperantly you have to go through 50 websites jsut to update it 17:49 Calinou Kacey: cool story bro 17:50 iqualfragile lacrosseplayer: no, the lubuntu terminal ( lxterm i think ) is allready installed 17:50 lacrosseplayer Why don't they just update the minetest app in the Lubuntu Software Center 17:50 iqualfragile exactly: they 17:50 iqualfragile we cant do anything about that 17:50 lacrosseplayer I know 17:50 iqualfragile but we can provide a source with updated minetest-packets 17:51 lacrosseplayer But it just seems like that would be a good idea 17:51 iqualfragile just open up lxterm and paste 17:51 lacrosseplayer I don;t have lxterm.................... 17:51 lacrosseplayer I have XTErm 17:51 lacrosseplayer XTerm* 17:51 ruskie doesn't matter 17:52 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: Have you pasted that yet? Middle-click. 17:52 iqualfragile enter lxterminal into xterm 17:53 lacrosseplayer Wow I just barely have enough storage for the minetest update 17:53 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Write mods that are not in world.mt into it at world startup b2253e5b42 2013-05-19T10:52:29-07:00 http://git.io/GWk9tw 17:53 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont load mods that have no entry in world.mt dcd0b63f64 2013-05-19T10:46:50-07:00 http://git.io/LwWgrA 17:54 PilzAdam iqualfragile, ^ this way you have all mods in world.mt when starting the world once 17:55 iqualfragile too late… 17:55 iqualfragile for me 17:55 iqualfragile but thats what im using the latest git for 17:56 lacrosseplayer :( The download froze 17:56 iqualfragile sudo apt-get autoremove 17:56 iqualfragile sudo apt-get clean 17:56 iqualfragile should free some space 17:56 lacrosseplayer No I still have space left 17:56 MasterBot Hi 17:58 markveidemanis Hi 17:59 markveidemanis hi 17:59 markveidemanis hihi 17:59 * Jordach wonders the location of Taoki 17:59 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix EmergeThread names in log cc92e45b78 2013-05-19T10:58:01-07:00 http://git.io/KtWM-g 17:59 Calinou 20:57 for Taoki 17:59 Calinou probably furryland, or ponyville 17:59 Calinou :-) 18:00 Jordach well, i found something interesting about the uv on my model 18:01 Exio poor markveidemanis 18:01 Jordach heres a untouched uv: http://i.imgur.com/ZqOUxT1.png 18:01 ShadowNinja * markviedemanis floods #freenode 18:02 RealBadAngel branch with shaders: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest sphax texture pack with normal maps: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/sphax256 (uploading atm) 18:02 Jordach heres one with marking to test facial UV: http://i.imgur.com/CG2Sqwg.png 18:02 Exio ShadowNinja: and gets quieted 18:02 Exio how many seconds before the ban ShadowNinja? 18:02 Exio 15? 18:02 lacrosseplayer That's because I left 18:02 Kacey Jordach, spotify? really? lol jk i use it too 18:03 Jordach thats a fucking good thing the porn window was on the other monitor 18:03 Jordach 18:03 ShadowNinja Exio: I was thinking /kill. The #freenode ban list is tiny. But makbe that is just because of eir. 18:04 Exio the bans are very "short" in #fn, and idoru does a job for "real spam", for people like markveidemanis they just set a short quiet/ban and eir removes it, you know :P 18:04 lacrosseplayer !ban @all 18:04 Kacey heh 18:04 lacrosseplayer Worth a shot 18:04 Exio !ban *!*@* 18:05 lacrosseplayer !ban *!*@* 18:05 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: *!*@* and only ops in ShadowBot or MinetestBot's user databases can use it. And they are checked by host. 18:06 lacrosseplayer I know 18:06 lacrosseplayer Yay minetest is updated 18:06 lacrosseplayer SHadow gimme IP 18:06 ShadowNinja 67.241.154.164 18:07 lacrosseplayer FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 18:07 * VanessaE is back. 18:07 lacrosseplayer Why did it just backdate to the original version 18:07 VanessaE what'd I miss? 18:07 Exio and, welcome back VanessaE! :P 18:07 lacrosseplayer Too much 18:07 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: ./minetest not minetest 18:08 Jordach sfan5, you about? 18:08 lacrosseplayer ShadowNinja 18:08 iqualfragile VanessaE: lots of commits 18:08 sfan5 Jordach: yeah? 18:09 lacrosseplayer That link that had those commands that I used were only for a one time update 18:09 Jordach could you compile darkrose's minetest classic 18:09 lacrosseplayer Then it backdates to the original version 18:09 sfan5 Jordach: link? 18:09 lacrosseplayer I closed the terminal window and it backdated minetest 18:09 Jordach sfan5, wait for darkrose 18:10 VanessaE iqualfragile: so I saw 18:10 lacrosseplayer That's not fair >:( 18:10 * VanessaE is about to test out RealBadAngel's bumpmap code :) 18:10 lacrosseplayer It makes you have to wait for a long download only for it to work for that one session 18:11 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: run minetest/bin/minetest 18:11 lacrosseplayer Does anyone know how to permanently update minetest 18:12 lacrosseplayer Oh OK thanks 18:12 VanessaE lacrosseplayer: install a regular run-in-place build *and extract it before you run it* 18:12 lacrosseplayer I'm connecting 18:15 lacrosseplayer Your server is super laggy 18:15 * arsdragonfly is now kinda used to going to bed at 2am 18:16 VanessaE what server? define "laggy" 18:16 lacrosseplayer ShadowNinja's my FPS is only like 4FPS 18:16 Calinou that's open source drivers (but intel's) 18:16 Calinou (and/or shitty hardware) 18:16 Exio or both 18:17 Calinou thus the "and" 18:17 Exio plus liveusb 18:17 Calinou storage speed doesn't change FPS 18:17 Exio i was writing the liveusb part :< 18:17 Calinou on my SSD I do not have more FPS than on HDD 18:17 lacrosseplayer Time to get AMD drivers 18:17 Calinou you need to reboot 18:17 Calinou so you can't use them on a live USB in a decent way 18:17 Calinou also, catalyst... :-) 18:18 lacrosseplayer I have good hardware but I suppose its my drivers 18:18 arsdragonfly You can get more than 4fps even on an intergrated inter 845g 18:18 iqualfragile lacrosseplayer: jockey-gtk 18:18 ShadowNinja lacrosseplayer: That isn't lag. Low FPS != Lag. 18:19 lacrosseplayer I'm running a Radeon HD 7950 I'm not sure but I think it may be a bit more stronger than the intel 845g 18:19 lacrosseplayer Yes I'm 4FPS last I check that was laggy 18:19 Exio lag = network lag 18:20 arsdragonfly iqualfragile :that requires many dependencies 18:20 lacrosseplayer I'm getting client side lag not network lag 18:21 Kacey http://youngderp.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/internet-problems-lol/ im funny lol 18:21 Calinou no you aren't 18:21 Calinou lacrosseplayer: huh, radeonSI sucks in terms of speed 18:21 Calinou that's why 18:21 Calinou catalyst is much better, but still slower than windows 18:21 Calinou the only graphics provider which brings you same perf on win and linux is nvidia :P 18:22 lacrosseplayer What are you talking about the Radeon HD 7950 is amazing 18:23 arsdragonfly lacrosseplayer,you should get MUCH more than 4fps anyway,if the driver is properly installed 18:23 lacrosseplayer I don't have any drivers installed xD that's why I'm laging 18:23 iqualfragile --> jockey-gtk 18:24 Calinou lacrosseplayer: on phoronix benchmarks it seems to do well 18:24 arsdragonfly the one who said that this game " runs playably on a laptop with Intel 945GM graphics." must be a super optimist :P 18:24 Calinou but some guy on phoronix forums said the performance sucked 18:24 Calinou arsdragonfly: yes, radeonSI is that slow 18:24 Calinou he just doesn't have catalyst 18:24 Calinou arsdragonfly: and it does 18:24 Calinou intel's linux drivers are decent in terms of perf 18:24 lacrosseplayer I'm not going to install any drivers onto this because I'm going to put this USB's files onto my cousins absoultely shit PC 18:25 Exio enjoy your 4FPS then 18:25 Calinou even nouveau brings me 20 FPS 18:25 Calinou (570) 18:25 lacrosseplayer I don't mind xD 18:25 arsdragonfly lacrosseplayer :liveUSB? 18:26 lacrosseplayer Yes 18:26 arsdragonfly there should be an option about preserving data across reboots 18:26 lacrosseplayer I'm just waiting to install Lubuntu that I have prepared on this USB to my friends computer 18:27 lacrosseplayer Then I will put on drivers 18:27 arsdragonfly if you didn't set that,i think everything you downloaded will be lost after a reboot 18:28 arsdragonfly or maybe i'm wrong 18:28 lacrosseplayer I put on data preserving 18:28 lacrosseplayer So no need to worry about that 18:31 lacrosseplayer Bye guys gotta go 18:32 iqualfragile i actualy get quite good fps with nouveau 18:33 Exio good fps =? 18:33 PilzAdam 12 18:33 Exio 42* 18:33 RealBadAngel like something more than zero propably ;) 18:34 PilzAdam with valgrind 5 FPS is super fast 18:34 Exio with valgrind having a FPS is fast 18:34 Exio you normally have SPF ;P 18:34 Jordach xonotic ftw 18:34 Exio redeclipse 18:35 iqualfragile Exio: about 30 18:35 iqualfragile but i have limited it to 30 so i cant be realy precise there 18:35 Exio iqualfragile: what gpu? 18:35 iqualfragile 9600 gt 18:35 PilzAdam I actually notice a difference between 30 and 60 18:36 PilzAdam 60 just feels a bit better 18:36 Exio i don't notice the difference with more than 80~ FPS 18:36 Exio smoother movement :D 18:43 kahrl PilzAdam: I notice that difference too 18:44 kahrl I assume it has to do with drawtime jitter. 30FPS doesn't mean each frame takes 1/30 seconds to render 18:45 iqualfragile that might be true 18:45 iqualfragile kahrl: --> #minetest-de 18:46 Exio what does drawtime jitter mean? 18:46 Exio the time rendering the stuff? 18:46 kahrl some frames take more time, some take less to render 18:47 kahrl FPS is only an average 18:47 Exio ah 18:59 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f#bl02Vt2s 19:00 Kacey i meant http://ifunny.mobi/f/HlrQXSW21 19:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont teleport back if holding sneak when detaching/turn freemove off bc66f46323 2013-05-19T11:56:58-07:00 http://git.io/DJaSbw 19:09 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHOMSx2ev24 19:18 Exio yay! 19:18 Exio i just looked at some old code 19:19 Exio i look at it and i can't get what it does 19:22 * ShadowNinja liked the idea of the common game. :-( 19:28 ShadowNinja Wait. With the aditional common games pull you could do minetest_game_mods = co 19:28 iqualfragile Exio: comments! 19:28 ShadowNinja Mmon... 19:28 Exio iqualfragile: it was a 90 minutes code 19:28 ShadowNinja Right? 19:29 Exio and it is a f*** mess 19:39 Kacey bbiab 19:39 PilzAdam brb 19:45 OldCoder Taoki, hello 19:45 Taoki hi 19:47 Jordach Taoki, ah, youre the man i've been looking for 19:47 Taoki ok 19:48 Jordach Taoki, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90926#p90926 20:32 PilzAdam new win32 build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 20:32 qwertytr_ Thanks 20:32 qwertytr_ That will help a lot 20:33 sfan5 good night 20:33 Calinou night sfan5 20:33 qwertytr_ Goodnight... 20:36 iqualfragile night 20:54 Mati^1 hi 20:55 Calinou night 20:55 Exio night Calinou 23:13 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add a little animation when changing the wielded item 3e2efdf18a 2013-05-19T16:09:41-07:00 http://git.io/XPE1tQ 23:42 PilzAdam TNT mod updated 23:45 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Allow nil as puncher e.g. to do damage by tnt 55a97f4605 2013-05-19T16:18:45-07:00 http://git.io/j6cx8w 23:56 Kacey bbiab