Time  Nick            Message
00:00 ShadowNinja     Thought so. I just wasn't sure.
00:05 Gambit          Okay, so the dudebro is gone.
00:19 Kacey           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN4KC_zlW4g
00:22 MinetestBot     GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont drop fonts with ENABLE_FREETYPE=0 587e7b299b 2013-05-15T17:20:10-07:00 http://git.io/Pkg4pw
00:22 NakedFury       http://www.djoslin.info/finiteliquid.php
00:22 NakedFury       amazing finite water physics
00:22 Gambit          Guess he realized that "Oh Gambit isn't actually that active in here and I can't stalk him."
00:22 Gambit          Or did he get banned for showing his true colors?
00:23 NakedFury       never seen that weird guy here
00:24 Gambit          He joined last week. I updated the mods on the situation and then parted.
00:27 PilzAdam        Kacey, so, do you want us to have the models animation in planck-frame resolution?
00:30 Exio            https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commit/7b98d582055c12769bda0b2ecacf0dcd396b7755
00:30 Exio            Showing 21 changed files with 3,445 additions and 3,884 deletions.
00:30 Exio            a big commit
00:32 PilzAdam        need to sleep now; bye
01:37 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add burnt luacontroller (so you don't lose your program after an overheat) and prevent interrupts from piling up (fixes #101, metadata trashing). Idea for burnt luacontroller comes from ShadowNinja. 682cf34792 2013-05-15T18:36:16-07:00 http://git.io/V9ylag
01:38 Menche          how many repositories does MinetestBot monitor?
01:41 ShadowNinja     Menche: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/rssnotify.py#L44
01:41 Kacey           ALL THE REPOSITORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </joke>
04:03 kaeza           hi all
05:05 tripod          http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/totally-common-occurrences-in-australia
09:55 kaeza           Calinou, one sec
10:25 VanessaE        morning all.
10:25 kaeza           mornings
10:34 VanessaE        quiet morning huh
10:35 VanessaE        is he live this time?
10:38 VanessaE        guess not :)
10:44 * Calinou       likes the new media progress bar
10:46 VanessaE        http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/05/15/2110243/anti-infringement-company-caught-infringing-on-its-website
10:46 VanessaE        pwn3d!
10:46 Calinou         hadopi did that too
10:46 Calinou         hadopi is/was a thing against piracy in france
10:46 Calinou         for their first logo, they used the "bienvenue" font, which was trademarked by orange (an ISP)
10:46 Calinou         without their permission
10:46 VanessaE        heh
10:47 VanessaE        will thee companies ever learn?
10:52 VanessaE        these*
10:53 kaeza           there was an US senator or candidate or some other politician that has some problem like that
10:53 kaeza           recently
10:54 kaeza           I can't recall any details though
10:54 kaeza           I read it on the Internet, so it must be true
11:06 kaeza           random: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/vg-logos.jpg
11:08 VanessaE        he
11:08 VanessaE        heh
11:09 Calinou         lol
11:10 * Calinou       wanted to start steam
11:10 * Calinou       alt+F2 "xchat"
11:10 Calinou         ...
11:10 Calinou         thank you brain
11:10 VanessaE        lol
11:10 kaeza           lol
11:10 * Calinou       is now playing TF2
11:19 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:20 VanessaE        morning PA
11:22 iqualfragile    morning
11:23 iqualfragile    … well, its 13:22 here but i stood up just a short while ago
11:28 * PilzAdam      too
11:28 * Calinou       is playing mann vs machine in TF2 :D
11:34 PilzAdam        Calinou, VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90435#p90435 -> offtopic
11:35 VanessaE        PilzAdam: I just replied to that.  Not offtopic at all.
11:36 VanessaE        (though I wasn't finished)
11:36 VanessaE        (actually I was)
11:37 PilzAdam        replied too
11:37 PilzAdam        but it is offtopic
11:37 VanessaE        PilzAdam: decided*
11:38 PilzAdam        fixed
11:38 VanessaE        no, it's quite on-topic because it points to some kind of fundamental problem with Minetest or the core devs.
11:38 PilzAdam        its a "fundamental problem" if people leave?
11:39 VanessaE        if one person leaves, he's probably unwanted anyway.  Two is questionable.  Three is a trend.
11:39 PilzAdam        there are people "leaving" every day
11:39 VanessaE        no, it's a fundamental problem in that someone is doing something to precipitate people leaving.
11:39 VanessaE        in other words:  We're doing something wrong.
11:40 VanessaE        you can't force people to stay, but if you're forcing them to leave, it's a problem.
11:40 VanessaE        (even if the force is only perceived)
11:40 PilzAdam        I see more than 10 people in the top 50 list of # posts that have left
11:41 PilzAdam        its just normal that people leave
11:41 PilzAdam        new people like BlockMen join us
11:41 VanessaE        well sure, of course - but when they leave vocally, demanding to be banned, and then blanking their posts on the way out?  This is not normal at all.
11:41 PilzAdam        it would be a problem if half of the community is leaving, but this is clearly not the case
11:42 VanessaE        it only takes one person to start an exodus.
11:42 VanessaE        morning, smoke.
11:42 PilzAdam        also, the way they left is very... inappropriate
11:43 VanessaE        exactly.
11:43 VanessaE        this indicates a deeper problem.
11:43 PilzAdam        I think the problem is at their side
11:43 VanessaE        part of it is.
11:43 PilzAdam        they had wrong ideas of what Minetest/MTs development is
11:43 VanessaE        Did they?  Maybe, but maybe not.
11:44 VanessaE        is this a democracy?  No.  But that doesn't mean it has to be a dictatorship either, and that's what people are perceiving lately.
11:44 iqualfragile    celeron55 has 333 posts
11:44 PilzAdam        bbl
11:44 kaeza           lol
11:45 kaeza           iqualfragile, he's half the devil?
11:45 VanessaE        heh
11:45 iqualfragile    maybee
11:48 iqualfragile    it just hit me that i have not actualy played minetest for more then a week
11:49 VanessaE        I spend more time posting on the forums or modding than actually playing lateyl.
11:49 VanessaE        or jabbering on irc ;)
11:49 kaeza           same here
11:50 kaeza           If I may add, I'm finding MT boring lately
11:50 iqualfragile    yeah, im on irc (im not too active in the forums) and im creating the mod database
11:50 kaeza           (to play that is)
11:50 VanessaE        why's it boring?  what needs to change?
11:50 iqualfragile    a challenge needs to be aded
11:50 iqualfragile    namely: mobs
11:50 kaeza           ^
11:50 VanessaE        iqualfragile: until your database can track "Recommends" and "conflicts", it's not going anywhere, sorry
11:50 kaeza           I have mobs on my game, but IDK
11:51 kaeza           an "open ended" game gets boring the more you play it
11:51 iqualfragile    VanessaE: as PilzAdam might have told you: yout case of conflicting with signs is an absolute exeption and a result of violating namespaces
11:52 VanessaE        kaeza: which is probably why MC added enderdragon I guess
11:52 iqualfragile    i am not going to add a field for that
11:52 VanessaE        iqualfragile: I could cite other examples.
11:52 iqualfragile    do so
11:52 VanessaE        Any mod that cannot be used with some other mod, or which adds the same objects or uses the same recipes as another mod.
11:52 iqualfragile    and i will add recommends when minetest has real support for soft dependencies
11:53 iqualfragile    you are right about the crafting recipes but there should not be any other collision when nobody violates namespaces
11:54 VanessaE        let's see, as I understand, that 3d armor+weilditems mod can't be used with stu's elbows-and-knees model, there's the thing with homedecor vs. signs and 3dforniture, don't use gloopores with glooptest
11:54 VanessaE        there are others, I'm just too tired to remember now
11:54 kaeza           nether + rivers/whatever
11:55 VanessaE        there are a number of mods that require inventory plus, which can't be used with unified inventory
11:55 kaeza           (actually, some of paramat's mods are incompatible with each other)
11:55 iqualfragile    at least homedecor vs signs and 3dforniture is a result of (im sorry) bad programming
11:56 VanessaE        iqualfragile: wrong.  it's a sign of integrating something that makes sense to integrate.
11:56 iqualfragile    add a dependency not a conflict case
11:56 VanessaE        kaeza: care to fill him in, since that happens to be your work? :)
11:56 VanessaE        you can't depend on and expand upon something that wasn't written to be extensible
11:56 kaeza           VanessaE, it's xyz's work :P
11:56 VanessaE        kaeza: you integrated it :)
11:56 kaeza           but anyway, he makes a good point
11:57 kaeza           actually, hmm
11:57 kaeza           nope
11:57 VanessaE        and not writing things to be extensible is not, by itself, a sign of bad coding.
12:00 iqualfragile    why did you need to minetest.register_node(":signs:sign_yard", {…}?
12:01 iqualfragile    why not depend on signs and just add your new signtypes?
12:01 VanessaE        because it isn't the "signs" mod anymore
12:01 VanessaE        it's under the homedecor namespace, so a colon is mandatory.
12:01 VanessaE        you can't write a mod and call it "a", but then turn around and register "b:foo".  the engine will bitch about it.  The colon feature was added (and is documented in the API) to allow such overrides.
12:02 iqualfragile    do you know why the engine bitches around?
12:02 VanessaE        because it thinks the mod name is incorrect.
12:02 VanessaE        the original node names were signs:xxx, so for backward compatibility we kept it that way
12:02 iqualfragile    and do you know why there is a big warning (iirc) in the api doc?
12:02 VanessaE        what warning?
12:02 iqualfragile    because it leads to conflicts
12:03 VanessaE        there is not, to my knowledge, a warning in the API
12:03 VanessaE        instead, the API explicitly says to do this if you need to.
12:03 VanessaE        and for this very reason
12:04 VanessaE        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L157
12:05 VanessaE        and btw, line 162 is incorrect - you do not have to depend on a mod to use its namespace.
12:06 iqualfragile    ok, its not explicitly rewritten there but read the text at line 151
12:07 iqualfragile    the next lines tell you how to override that
12:07 iqualfragile    wich obviously leads to conflicts
12:07 iqualfragile    the question is: why did you need to redefine signs:* in your mod?
12:07 iqualfragile    i dont think there is a need for that
12:07 VanessaE        line 151 is talking about the folder and mod names, not the colon prefix.
12:08 VanessaE        I didn't redefine it - I kept the same naming convention because that's the proper way to do it.
12:08 VanessaE        it's either that or use aliases, which is even more wrong.
12:09 iqualfragile    (line 151) namespaces will prevent conflicts
12:09 VanessaE        'The ":" prefix can also be used for maintaining backwards compatibility.'
12:09 VanessaE        and that is precisely why I used it.
12:09 iqualfragile    (line 157) namespaces can be overridden using :
12:09 VanessaE        jeez man, don't split hairs
12:09 VanessaE        line 164:  ":" is useful for backwards compatibility.
12:09 iqualfragile    (brain) using : might create conflicts, i should make shure i do not use them when i dont absolutely need to
12:10 iqualfragile    there is no backwards, you are not the signs mod author
12:10 VanessaE        JEEZ!  IT'S IN THE FUCKING API!
12:10 * VanessaE      fumes
12:10 iqualfragile    and it has a warning
12:10 iqualfragile    afk
12:12 VanessaE        I see nothing there about "warning", "caution", "danger", "note", or any other phrase that should suggest not to use that feature.  Do you really think it would have been officially supported if it were that dangerous to use?
12:14 VanessaE        At any rate, you're dead wrong and you're just opening your project up to future complaints by refusing to add a conflicts field like every other package manager has.
12:14 VanessaE        I model my posts after linux package managers, which routinely have those fields.  Would you presume to say those packages are badly coded?
12:19 PilzAdam        <iqualfragile> and i will add recommends when minetest has real support for soft dependencies <- we have real support for soft dependencise
12:19 PilzAdam        *dependencies
12:20 VanessaE        recommends are not soft dependencies necessarily
12:20 VanessaE        PilzAdam: and again, thanks for reminding me of that.  it made pipeworks' use of mesecons make more sense.
12:26 VanessaE        most of the time, I use "Recommends:" to indicate recipe options, e.g. using moreores tin ingots in the making of a homedecor fridge.
12:26 VanessaE        those work fine regardless of which mod loads first.
12:26 VanessaE        so a softdepend isn't needed then.
12:27 PilzAdam        softdepends could show it the user in a more "official" way
12:27 VanessaE        true.
12:28 VanessaE        nevertheless, those two fields are needed in any kind of mod installer/manager or it's a dead deal.
12:29 VanessaE        don't.  overcompliate.  it.
12:29 VanessaE        (or overcomplicate* it)
12:33 PilzAdam        actually, what you suggest overcomplicates it
12:33 PilzAdam        if you have "Depends" "Softdepends" "Confilct" "Recommend" "Not recommended" fields then its complicated
12:34 PilzAdam        but just support the fields that are actually supported by the engine ("Depends" and "Softdepends") will be fine
12:39 iqualfragile    PilzAdam: there is support for softdeps? cool
12:39 iqualfragile    how do you use them?
12:40 kaeza           iqualfragile, "othermod?"
12:40 kaeza           (in depends.txt)
12:41 iqualfragile    ok, i will add support for that into mmdb
12:41 kaeza           for example: "moda\nmodb\nmodc?\nmodd"
12:41 iqualfragile    (will still call that field recommends)
12:41 VanessaE        kaeza: and "othermod" in optdepends.txt
12:41 kaeza           and that too :)
12:42 iqualfragile    that should not be used anymore
12:42 PilzAdam        that will be dropped at the end of 2013 though
12:42 iqualfragile    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L119
12:42 VanessaE        anymore?  it was *just* added
12:43 VanessaE        PilzAdam: in theory it will be, but if you guys had any brains at all, it would be permanent :)
12:43 kaeza           IMHO you should leave that up to two releases from 0.4.7
12:43 kaeza           no more, no less
12:43 PilzAdam        kaeza, its actually funny how no language can translate "Shutting down stuff..." properly
12:44 kaeza           PilzAdam, yeah :(
12:44 PilzAdam        well, the german "Herunterfahren..." kinda translates it good
12:45 PilzAdam        its the term you use to describe the shut down process of computers
12:45 iqualfragile    thats because "stuff" is a crappy word
12:45 kaeza           in spanish, the closest would be "Cerrando" ("closing") or "deinicializando" ("deinitializing", too long)
12:45 iqualfragile    you would not write Halte "Dinge" an in german
12:47 kaeza           though "closing" looks more like the entire program is closing
12:47 kaeza           I believe it is also used when exiting to the main menu, right?
12:49 kaeza           actually, "Apagando cosas" would be very literal, if unprofessional looking
12:49 kaeza           Exio, ^
12:49 PilzAdam        "Shutting down stuff..." isnt very "proffesional" either
12:50 VanessaE        why not "Shutting down related services" ?
12:50 PilzAdam        the OS is a related service...
12:50 kaeza           too long perhaps?
12:51 kaeza           err
12:51 kaeza           anyway, I'll translate as that and if somebody cares to provide a better translation, he/she will do so
12:51 VanessaE        PilzAdam: no one's going to make that mistake, but ok
12:52 PilzAdam        kaeza, just translate "Shutting down..." (without the stuff)
12:52 PilzAdam        *"stuff"
12:52 iqualfragile    ok, soft dependencies are supported now
13:02 VanessaE        New build: 587e7b29[...]
13:21 RealBadAngel    hi folks
13:22 VanessaE        hey RBA
13:22 RealBadAngel    whats up doc?
13:23 iqualfragile    hi RealBadAngel
13:28 VanessaE        G*D damn it
13:28 RealBadAngel    i need a tool to make normal and specular maps fpr given png. anyone knowin such one?
13:28 RealBadAngel    *for
13:28 VanessaE        I grant someone interact and right away they grief signs.
13:30 RealBadAngel    i found Crazybump app but wine refuse to run it
13:30 RealBadAngel    its windows/mac only
13:30 VanessaE        can't gimp do that stuff?
13:30 RealBadAngel    i need something automated
13:31 PilzAdam        wow, just started valgrind again and only found 5 memory leaks
13:31 RealBadAngel    via scripting or something
13:31 iqualfragile    RealBadAngel: how do you want it to be generated (on the base of wich information)
13:31 iqualfragile    *which
13:32 iqualfragile    normalmaps are 3d, pngs are 2d, where do you get the additional information from?
13:32 RealBadAngel    ive googled and found out that there are programs that create maps automatically
13:33 RealBadAngel    propably theyre not perfect but i need such one
13:33 VanessaE        speaking of textures, fix your broken hv battery box images :)
13:33 iqualfragile    i do not think that automated programs will deliver any good results
13:34 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: scripting, try imagemagick
13:34 VanessaE        afaik, it can do everything gimp can
13:34 RealBadAngel    there are quite a few apps that dont ask such questions
13:34 RealBadAngel    and producing all the needed maps
13:35 RealBadAngel    like this one: http://www.crazybump.com/
13:35 RealBadAngel    but i dont have windows or mac
13:36 RealBadAngel    or this one: http://quixel.se/ndo/
13:38 RealBadAngel    i know that gimp can that too
13:38 RealBadAngel    but i dont have time to play 2hrs with single texture
13:38 RealBadAngel    i need somethin automated
13:39 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: like I said, look into imagemagick
13:39 RealBadAngel    i never used it
13:39 VanessaE        surely it can be convinced to do it.
13:39 VanessaE        it's open source, quite scriptable, and fairly powerful
13:39 iqualfragile    i know that blender has a python script interface
13:40 RealBadAngel    im asking for help here :)
13:40 RealBadAngel    i need a way to easily create maps needed to turn on bumpmapping
13:40 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: I
13:40 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: I'd help if I knew wtf I was doing in that regard :)
13:41 kaeza           RealBadAngel, aren't bumpmaps just 2d images?
13:41 RealBadAngel    they are
13:41 VanessaE        kaeza: indeed they are, 2d with levels of grey to indicate height of the bumps
13:41 RealBadAngel    blue...
13:42 VanessaE        grey.
13:42 kaeza           fuchsia
13:42 RealBadAngel    so why the heck all bumpmaps are blueish? ;)
13:42 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: dunno.
13:42 kaeza           dunno I'm colorblind :D
13:42 VanessaE        https://www.google.com/search?q=bumpmap&num=100&client=ubuntu&hs=FZK&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SuKUUc6RC46G9QTlgoHABQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=981&bih=693
13:42 VanessaE        seems like there's plenty of grey there, and the "blue" ones if you look closely are anachrome 3d renderings.
13:43 VanessaE        (I think)
13:43 RealBadAngel    lets say so:
13:43 RealBadAngel    somebody please help me find a tool
13:43 RealBadAngel    and i will release bumpmapping shader this weekend
13:43 iqualfragile    it does not realy matter wich colour they are, as just one channel is used anywas
13:43 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/transform/#shade
13:43 VanessaE        try that.
13:44 VanessaE        well maybe not
13:44 RealBadAngel    i need A SCRIPT
13:44 RealBadAngel    now how to
13:44 VanessaE        so write one ;)
13:45 RealBadAngel    i dont have time to learn another program just to write one script :(
13:45 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: you're gonna have to
13:45 VanessaE        or do what I said before - baby steps
13:46 VanessaE        get the important stuff in now
13:46 iqualfragile    RealBadAngel: VanessaE just linked you the documetation for imagemagic
13:46 VanessaE        add the eyecandy later.
13:46 RealBadAngel    sure, another app to learn
13:46 RealBadAngel    never used imagemagic before
13:47 RealBadAngel    like irrlicht and glsl shaders wasnt enough to learn
13:47 VanessaE        http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/transform/#emboss
13:47 VanessaE        this may also help
13:47 VanessaE        embossing can be used to create bump maps under limited conditions
13:47 RealBadAngel    im not Einstein to get fluent in all those apps in a few weeks
13:47 RealBadAngel    including fuckin blender
13:47 VanessaE        (like if you have sand, or cloth, or some other all-over texture)
13:48 RealBadAngel    i do have shaders working
13:48 RealBadAngel    but i dont have content
13:48 RealBadAngel    im not able to create complex blender models
13:48 RealBadAngel    i dont have normal and specular maps
13:48 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: just release what you have, in a small enough package to be useful to most people.  Add the other stuff later on
13:49 RealBadAngel    what? shaders without data?
13:49 VanessaE        what about that water shader?  that looked pretty good as-is
13:49 iqualfragile    RealBadAngel: for bumpmaps: just create an gray .png with different tones of grey
13:49 VanessaE        or you mentioned having done crepuscular rays also
13:49 iqualfragile    ( i did not use shades on purpose)
13:49 iqualfragile    that should do it
13:50 iqualfragile    (for testing)
13:51 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: for i in *.png; do b=`basename "$i"`;  convert "$i" -colorspace Gray -emboss 0x1 $b"_bumpmap.png"; done
13:51 VanessaE        that'll give you something to work with
13:54 iqualfragile    but be aware that its not an high-quality result at all
13:55 VanessaE        nope.
13:56 VanessaE        it's just a test, something to get him started.
14:23 arsdragonfly    did sfan5 add i18n to lua mods?
14:23 sfan5           arsdragonfly: kind of
14:23 arsdragonfly    how?
14:24 sfan5           arsdragonfly: what do mean "how?"
14:25 arsdragonfly    Idk what "kind of" means
14:30 sfan5           arsdragonfly: it works in singleplayer and for server that are for a specific language (like spanish servers)
14:30 sfan5           It also "works" on MP, but everyone will see the lang the server admin set, and the lang they set
14:31 kaeza           celeron had a branch that allowed to set language on a per-client basis
14:31 kaeza           I don't remember where it is though :/
14:33 arsdragonfly    sfan5 :so every line of text will become two lines?
14:34 sfan5           arsdragonfly: ...no
14:36 arsdragonfly    or they're put in a single line?
14:36 sfan5           no
14:37 arsdragonfly    :S then how can they see both languages?
14:37 sfan5           if a mods names the item "Diamond Stick" it will search in the translation files for "Diamond Stick" and replace it with e.g. "Diamant Stab" (german)
15:16 BlockMen        PilzAdam, sfan5, -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxZoyjZaNXU#t=853
15:16 sfan5           BlockMen: :O
15:16 BlockMen        why doesnt he know about minetest -.-'
15:17 sfan5           well, you could write him a message and hope he reads it
15:17 BlockMen        sfan5, iirc you are the one with a yt account :P
15:18 Jordach         BlockMen, your avatar looks just like his
15:18 sfan5           you could write him using gronkh.de
15:18 BlockMen        Jordach, lets say similar :P
15:18 BlockMen        sfan5, good idea
15:19 Jordach         BlockMen == gronkn
15:19 Jordach         gronkh*
15:19 BlockMen        Jordach, lol. no...not even a bit
15:20 PilzAdam        this fucking Terasology crashed my PC
15:21 Jordach         awwwwwww, my heart bleeds
15:24 Calinou         it never did for me, PilzAdam
15:24 Calinou         how about not using an AMD card :3
15:24 PilzAdam        nVidia here
15:25 Jordach         Nvidia*
15:25 PilzAdam        no
15:25 Jordach         <- grammar nazi
15:25 * Jordach       dropped an n-bomb
15:25 Jordach         :P
15:26 PilzAdam        why do all non-germans are allowed to make nazi jokes?
15:26 sfan5           howto: convert minecraft maps into minetest WE schematics
15:26 sfan5           http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007
15:26 PilzAdam        *are
15:27 Jordach         PilzAdam, dunno
15:27 Jordach         because we actually won the war...?
15:27 BlockMen        sfan5, so you use the we-data from mc to add it in mt?
15:27 sfan5           BlockMen: i use the data from mc and create mt we-data out of it
15:28 BlockMen        nice
15:29 BlockMen        so mc-we uses different data format than mc-maps, right?
15:29 sfan5           partly
15:30 sfan5           a .schematic from MC-WE could be valid chunk data, missing a few things like skylight
15:31 Calinou         Jordach: NVIDIA is the proper capitalization
15:32 BlockMen        sfan5, ic
15:32 sfan5           ic?
15:32 Jordach         and my DAW jammed
15:32 BlockMen        i see?
15:35 BlockMen        bbl
15:57 sfan5           basically every super unexpirenced person that plays MT: http://youtu.be/lQFLaHFVMcw?t=5m52s
15:59 Jordach         sfan5, LOL
15:59 sfan5           i laughed so hard..
15:59 Jordach         > i am such a n00b
15:59 Jordach         highlight of my day
16:00 sfan5           and this: http://youtu.be/lQFLaHFVMcw?t=8m5s
16:02 Jordach         to install windows 8 or not to install windows 8
16:02 Jordach         that is the question
16:04 PilzAdam        NO!
16:11 sfan5           test
16:29 markveidemanis  Hi
16:47 sfan5           !seen markveidemanis
16:47 MinetestBot     sfan5: markveidemanis was last seen at 2013-05-16 16:30:49 UTC on #minetest
16:47 markveidemanis  ???
16:47 markveidemanis  nice!
16:48 Jordach         !seen VanessaE
16:48 MinetestBot     Jordach: vanessae was last seen at 2013-05-16 13:57:14 UTC on #minetest
16:50 RealBadAngel    was talking to her
16:50 RealBadAngel    but connection was lost ;)
16:51 RealBadAngel    guess shes afk for a moment
16:51 MinetestBot     john_cephalopoda: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-05-13 11:35:22 UTC on #minetest
16:53 * john_minetest is downloading the Kerbal Space Program demo
16:55 markveidemanis  I cheated in candie box!!!
16:55 markveidemanis  You have 100000001439163 candies! You have 99999990952982450000 lollipops!
16:56 Calinou         lol
16:56 Calinou         cool story
16:56 Jordach         lol candy box
16:56 markveidemanis  https://gist.github.com/desandro/5498482
16:56 markveidemanis  LOL so much time wasted
16:57 Calinou         Jordach: fun game, huh
17:00 * kaeza         is undecided between using 2.2mlp for a better sword, or 4.4mlp for faster candies
17:00 VanessaE        sorryto wander off, had to take care of something outside.
17:00 kaeza           (mlp not to be confysed with MLP)
17:00 kaeza           -y+u
17:01 VanessaE        mlp, millions of lollipops? :)
17:01 kaeza           yep
17:01 Jordach         kaeza, faster candies
17:02 kaeza           You have 3866275 lollipops! <-- will have to wait a bit
17:02 kaeza           You have eaten 1274723 candies! :3
17:03 Calinou         dammit, I realized I didn't have candy box open
17:03 Calinou         You have eaten 3085937 candies!
17:03 Calinou         You have 4486700 lollipops!
17:04 markveidemanis  6fhty
17:04 markveidemanis  I give my code away, its all infinite
17:04 kaeza           meh
17:04 kaeza           what's the fun in cheating?
17:05 Jordach         finding a way to hack it is more fun
17:05 kaeza           ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → A B Sel St
17:05 Jordach         two up, two down, left, right, left, right, b, a START!
17:06 kaeza           derp
17:06 kaeza           no wonder I never got 30 lives :(
17:06 kaeza           does it work IRL?
17:07 kaeza           that would be fun #YOLTT
17:08 Jordach         smart TV my ASS
17:08 * Calinou       S-recommends Jordach
17:08 Jordach         wont even find an xbox on hdmi \o/
17:09 Jordach         Calinou, all i get is pornos
17:09 Jordach         :P
17:09 Calinou         all I get is phoronix news about AMD
17:09 Calinou         this sucks
17:11 * Jordach       is busy playing poker
17:13 * Calinou       is busy playing TF2 mann vs machine
17:13 Calinou         when there are players, it's better :| there are few people playing it
17:42 Jordach         hey dante123#
17:43 VanessaE        zzz
17:43 dante123        hi jordach
17:43 VanessaE        afternoon dante123
17:43 dante123        afternoon VanessaE
18:05 kaeza           YAY /me won the lottery
18:06 kaeza           I received an email saying so. I just need to provide my personal info and I get 4 billion dollars!
18:06 kaeza           stupid spammers
18:10 NakedFury       hate spam like that
18:16 NakedFury       I also like the your world of warcraft account was caught selling gold or some other excuse. I havent played WoW ever, dont even have an account on it
18:17 NakedFury       or the usual viagra or enlarge penis or women looking for me
18:18 kaeza           the sad thing is that there are people that *DOES* click the links, send credit card number, etc
18:19 PilzAdam        survival of the fit..... "non-clicker" :-)
18:20 PilzAdam        john_minetest, then they will sue you that you have not taken your real name :-)
18:20 PilzAdam        (they = amazon)
18:26 frogcrush       Good day, all
18:32 meldrian        hello everyone :)
18:32 PilzAdam        spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90493#p90493
18:33 frogcrush       People are silly, posting spam on sites...
19:13 sfan5           wow! the ip 41.200.45.237 spammed my apache logs with many tries to exploit vunerable things
19:13 PilzAdam        ddos?
19:14 sfan5           no
19:14 sfan5           things like this: http://pastie.org/7917355
19:15 PilzAdam        I mean do you want to start to DDoS that IP?
19:15 sfan5           no, why?
19:16 sfan5           but I may just write a honeypot script that acts like the exploit is suposed to act
19:20 markveidemanis  hiya
19:26 khonkhortisan   I was to slow to see the spam off
19:38 ShadowNinja     Hmmm, anyone know the answer to "what is the only thing to go beyond our universe" in candies?
19:39 Jordach         <skiingpenguins-> how do i delete a folder over ssh?
19:39 Jordach         <Jordach> sudo rm -r *
19:39 ShadowNinja     +the limits of
19:39 VanessaE        ShadowNinja: the multiverse? Quantum mechanics? G*d? :)
19:39 Calinou         ShadowNinja, the answer
19:39 Jordach         42
19:39 * Calinou       engineer laugh
19:39 * Calinou       upgrades his sentry to level 3
19:40 * Jordach       saps Calinou's sentry
19:40 ShadowNinja     Thanks!
19:40 Calinou         :(
19:40 Calinou         np :P
19:40 * Calinou       has 5.3mlp
19:40 Calinou         need about 12mlp for faster candies
19:43 PilzAdam        "You have eaten 5670386632 candies!"
19:43 PilzAdam        I want moar!
19:43 Jordach         PilzAdam, hows the diabetes
19:43 Jordach         enjoy your diabeetus
19:43 Calinou         lol
19:44 PilzAdam        with 15000 HP its fairly easy to beat the last boss over and over again
19:44 PilzAdam        to get more candies and more HP :-)
19:45 Calinou         http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90444#p90444
19:45 Calinou         lol, that was expected
19:45 Calinou         I wouldn't let anyone named "Doyouseemysword123" join my server if I had one
19:45 Calinou         lol
19:46 VanessaE        I don't usually make judgements based on people's nicks
19:46 PilzAdam        "can you grant me interact? nick: 8======D"
19:46 khonkhortisan   I wouldn't grant them interact, because that would mess up the question
19:48 Calinou         http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90465#p90465
19:48 Calinou         instruments?
19:48 * Calinou       plays !#$?!~ Tuba and Akordeon
19:48 * Calinou       can even kill Jordach using them
19:48 Calinou         :-)
19:48 VanessaE        only thing I can play is a piano, and rather badly at that.
19:49 VanessaE        what's on the other side of Jordach's links?
19:49 Calinou         TIL I can select some text then click "quick quote"
19:53 VanessaE        accordion*
19:54 khonkhortisan   accordéon
19:54 Calinou         ^
19:55 Calinou         blame mikeeeusa for "akordeon" :)
19:55 khonkhortisan   I searched for the first spelling, and wikipedia decided I didn't speak english
19:56 Jordach         VanessaE, some music that made it into ambiance
19:56 Jordach         ambience*?
19:57 ShadowNinja     lol, You have 3.5e+157 candies!
19:57 khonkhortisan   INFINITYe+INFINITY
20:01 VanessaE        oh
20:01 VanessaE        Jordach: skaven stuff?
20:01 VanessaE        ambiance.
20:01 Jordach         NO
20:01 Jordach         my own works
20:02 VanessaE        ohhh
20:02 VanessaE        cool
20:05 Jordach         BULLSHIT. http://i.imgur.com/4shysGE.png
20:05 Jordach         VanessaE, http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?iwhpylyopro7osb
20:05 Jordach         something I just whacked up
20:07 VanessaE        Jordach: ompldr isn't working for me, either.
20:07 VanessaE        (same screen, in fact)
20:07 Jordach         VanessaE, good thing mediafire is just as good
20:08 VanessaE        I'll stick to hosting stuff on my paid-for web space :)
20:09 * PilzAdam      starts the hard mode of the candy box
20:10 Jordach         PilzAdam likes it HARD
20:15 sfan5           good night
20:27 iqualfragile    sfan5: wtf?
20:27 iqualfragile    its 22:30
20:27 Calinou         it's 2013, people go to bed to use their tablet.
20:27 Calinou         or to play minecraft.
20:27 PilzAdam        or both
20:31 meldrian        :)
20:39 iqualfragile    you cant realy play minetest on your tablet
20:39 iqualfragile    yet
20:41 STHGOM          you can
20:42 * STHGOM        is away: I'm AFK
20:51 VanessaE        what happened?
20:52 PilzAdam        * VanessaE hat die Verbindung getrennt (*.net *.split)
20:52 VanessaE        ah, ok
20:52 VanessaE        (all I saw was connection reset by peer)
20:53 jojoa1997       !up sfan5.dyns.org
20:53 ShadowBot       jojoa1997: sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down
20:53 MinetestBot     sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down
20:54 * STHGOM        is back (gone 00:12:20)
20:54 STHGOM          heehee
20:54 PilzAdam        STHGOM, stop it
20:54 STHGOM          i will be on and off
20:54 STHGOM          ?
20:54 STHGOM          what?
20:55 PilzAdam        * STHGOM is back (gone 00:12:20)
20:55 STHGOM          is that spam/
20:56 VanessaE        no, it isn't (spam is NOT defined as "excess messages")
20:56 VanessaE        but it is generally frowned upon.
20:58 * VanessaE      pokes DMackey
20:59 STHGOM          ok
21:22 harrison        does ascii art of hello kitty as kali / hitler count as spam?
21:22 harrison        cause if not, i can post some
21:22 VanessaE        post it here and it'll qualify as flooding.
21:23 harrison        oh, i remember you
21:23 VanessaE        or just unwanted gibberish
21:23 harrison        VanessaE
21:23 harrison        you are strict
21:23 harrison        i will not post an ascii art at this time
21:23 VanessaE        ...
21:24 VanessaE        I think you'll find there are others in here who are far more strict than I am regarding flooding and spamming
21:28 init            VanessaE: query? :P
21:28 VanessaE        hm?
21:48 VanessaE        heh
22:06 STHGOM          cya
22:06 VanessaE        bye
22:06 STHGOM          he go, i go
22:08 PilzAdam        we germans really love cars: http://youtu.be/jREghQI4-MQ :D
22:30 harrison        here on the shore of the Inland Sea, i gaze out at the silhouette of Ayers Island on the horizon
22:32 Uberi           all I can see out my window is the Lonely Mountain
22:50 Kacey           bbiab
22:52 ShadowNinja     It works! :-) ShadowBot should sleep properly now.
22:53 PilzAdam        good night, ShadowNinja
22:53 PilzAdam        *Bot
22:54 VanessaE        heh
22:55 ShadowNinja     I removed the ACTION message BTW.
23:03 iqualfragile    PilzAdam: well, actualy i dont like that kind of car, its just too big for the average user wich makes it wastefull
23:04 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, I just randomly found this video and thought its funny
23:05 iqualfragile    i thinks its ridiculous… well, laughed anyways
23:35 VanessaE        zzz
23:57 PilzAdam        bye