Time Nick Message 00:00 sdzen ello has /clearobjects been fixed yet? 00:22 sdzen I take that as a no 00:23 Sketch3 No clue. Drawing at the moment 00:24 * sdzen cant tell if that was a clever joke about your nickname, or you were serious 00:24 sdzen maybe both 00:26 Sketch3 Nah, being serious. MyPaint, wacom tablet 00:28 sdzen I love mypaint :P 00:30 Sketch3 Yea. The dev ver has some extra featues 00:32 * ShadowNinja peeks in 00:32 Sketch3 Wish it had perspective tools 00:32 Exio hi ShadowB... err, ShadowNinja 00:33 ShadowNinja Anything special or just the usual chit-chat? 00:36 ShadowNinja So nothing... 00:39 sbaugh is there any way to save my password? 00:43 kahrl you could write it in this channel. We'll remember it for you 00:44 Sketch3 Lols, yeah. Save it here, then you can copy-paste it from chat logs 00:50 Exio Sketch3: aptitude is awesome 00:51 Exio it just eats 6gb of ram for nothing 00:51 Exio as i had to cancel it, and upgrading was just removing ONE package and installing other 00:51 Sketch3 Oh, is it working better for ya now? 00:51 Exio (the big problem what was "locking" the upgrade) 00:53 testing hey guys it is Kacey 01:24 VanessaE hiall. 01:32 Kacey hi v 01:38 Exio hey VanessaE 01:40 VanessaE hey 01:40 Exio look at http://i.imgur.com/KTBfsj0.jpg 01:40 Exio not mine, but 01:40 VanessaE nice 01:41 Exio with the default TP 01:41 VanessaE too bad that's not MT :-/ 01:41 Exio yep 01:49 khonkhortisan flare! 01:50 khonkhortisan and wavey mirror 01:51 Exio there are shadows and stuff, but i only like the reflection ;P 01:52 khonkhortisan the sun is a real light source 01:52 khonkhortisan and papyrus doesn't project shadow 01:53 Exio wut? 01:53 khonkhortisan There's no darkness under the papyrurs at middle-right 01:53 khonkhortisan but the water reflects the papyrus anyway 01:55 Exio other thing what looks pretty nice those shaders is.. the "moon light" 01:57 khonkhortisan I'd rather get hacked by a virus than have my computer destroy my data by auto-updating without my presense 01:58 khonkhortisan *presence 02:37 VanessaE http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/05/03/2046214/epic-and-mozilla-bring-html5-opengl-demo-to-the-browser 02:37 VanessaE can anyone say, Minetest in the Browser? :-) 02:38 Exio 5 fps drop 02:38 VanessaE (ok, maybe it would be a *tad* harder than the above ;-) ) 02:38 Exio 5x* 02:38 VanessaE haha 02:38 VanessaE probably so 02:38 Exio and that is.. old? 02:39 VanessaE though that "2x" claim (by which I assume they mean "about half the speed") does make it at least plausible 02:39 VanessaE Emscripten is old, but that article is on today's feed right now 02:39 VanessaE so it's probably a week old ;) 02:39 Exio i mean, the "Fps demo" 02:39 Exio i already saw a FPS demo ported thanks to emscripten like a month ago iirc 02:39 Exio maybe more 02:39 VanessaE looks like it's only been out for a week 02:40 VanessaE good to see, though. It opens the door for an in-browser MT for those who want that (e.g. tablets) 02:40 Exio not the same fps for what i can see 02:40 Exio VanessaE: i'd not play MT on those devices ... in my browser 02:41 Exio html5 -> java -> hardware 02:41 VanessaE me neither, but I've actually been out in 'the wild' - I could see people actually doing this. 02:41 VanessaE java? ew. 02:41 Exio android is a "pseudo" java 02:41 VanessaE I wonder if this concept is what got lamefun all up in arms about converting the world over to html+etc 02:41 Exio lol 02:42 Exio i prefer performance 02:42 VanessaE ditto 02:42 VanessaE I'd never play an in-browser version either, but I can see an argument for it 03:59 arsdragonfly how to make the text in the formspec wrap the lines automatically? 05:06 sfan5 mornin' everyone 05:16 sfan5 anyone against me commiting what is described here: http://forum.minetest.net/view[…]?pid=88123#p88123 <- definetly needed; you need to test this first, though <- it shouldn't break anything (on Linux and Mac), I got reports that this fixes the favorite server list on win 05:16 sfan5 oh.. pilzadam is not here and anyway wrong channel 05:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot 05:20 MinetestBot Hi sfan5 05:30 arsdragonfly is that about the borken cURL ? 05:30 arsdragonfly that needs additional dependency anyway 05:35 sfan5 cmon MinetestBot time out already! 05:42 * ShadowBot wakes up 05:43 * ShadowBot sleeps 07:04 sfan5 the health packs I made look like apples http://i.imgur.com/Zx8iBvy.png 07:09 Limux_ Is there a Minetest build for ARM computers? 07:44 Limux_ Is everyone sleeping on this channel 07:44 Limux_ Is there a Minetest build for ARM computers? 07:46 Jeija_ Limux_, minetest works e.g. on the Raspberry Pi (so in the raspbian repos), or build it yourself. 07:47 Limux_ THX 07:50 RealBadAngel hi Jeija_ 08:02 Jeija_ hi RealBadAngel 08:03 RealBadAngel have u make something about node placement prediction with 6dfacedir? 08:09 RealBadAngel hi 08:12 sfan5 anyone up for a game of JSBombers(a bit improved by me)? 08:12 sfan5 john_minetest: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/ 09:25 sfan5 john_minetest: i'm currently working on the src code so it may not work 09:26 sfan5 it will be fixed in 1 min 09:41 Infinity_69 Hi 09:42 Zeg9 (in the hope he won't see me) 09:42 Infinity_69 Who, me? :-D 09:43 Issa hello 09:43 Issa i like play minetest 09:43 Infinity_69 Hi 09:43 Issa but i need fight something on the game 09:43 Issa how add mod with animals or better monsters ? 09:43 Infinity_69 Mobf 09:44 Issa what ? 09:44 Infinity_69 Mobf adds mobs 09:44 Infinity_69 Animals... 09:44 Zeg9 !g mobf minetest 09:44 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 09:45 Zeg9 or this one 09:45 Zeg9 !g simple mobs minetest 09:45 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3063 09:45 Issa ok so now i need to found how install mod :/ 09:45 Issa why is not by defauult 09:45 Issa is this --> 09:45 Issa http://www.freeimagehosting.net/pqbd9 09:46 Issa 2d sprites 09:46 Issa sorry is "moches" 09:46 Zeg9 Moche -> ugly :P 09:46 Zeg9 But now it is 3d 09:46 Issa Zeg9, update the screen 09:47 Zeg9 Issa, it isn't my mod 09:47 Issa ok 09:47 Issa i m tring to install 09:47 Issa first i need to download the frech install minetest 09:47 Zeg9 Yeah, or minimal game 09:47 Zeg9 Issa, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5820 << these are my mobs, I made 2 :P 09:48 Issa second i instal one of my favote tthme texture 09:48 Issa "RIREs" --> is a lave monsters 09:48 Issa http://ompldr.org/vaWF5dA 09:48 Zeg9 Yes, lava flan 09:48 Issa enormes 09:49 Zeg9 He's cute ;) 09:49 Issa so i install animals and after i install u monster byzarre mods 09:49 Zeg9 Nop, mine works with simple mobs 09:51 * Jordach is working on a mystery gamemode 09:52 Issa sorry MinetestBot gice me two link 09:52 Issa so i need to install the both, or only one fo them ? 09:53 sfan5 john_minetest: its buggy right now 09:53 Zeg9 One of them. The first, animals have many many mobs (monsters and animals), and the second, is more simple, and IMO, better models 09:53 Infinity_69 Jordach: "What'ya doin' ?" ~Phineas and Ferb 09:54 Jordach nope. 09:54 Jordach not even saying 09:54 kaeza Phineas and Ferb :D 09:54 Infinity_69 What 09:54 kaeza don't forget Perry :3 09:54 Infinity_69 Agent P. 09:54 Issa i have copy the animals_modpack-master on the folder --> minetest-0.4.6-2\mods\minetest 09:54 Issa do u think is OK ? 09:54 Zeg9 It should be 09:54 Issa ok i m starting a new partie 09:55 Infinity_69 !G gpl iirc 09:55 Infinity_69 !g gpl iirc 09:55 MinetestBot Infinity_69: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients 09:55 Issa what difference between Buid, Minetest, Minimal develpement test and survival ? 09:56 Issa i think it would add a buble with description when u are on the menu 09:56 Zeg9 ... 09:56 Zeg9 Infinity_69 I ment the license is GPL, if I remember correct 09:56 Infinity_69 !g gpl 09:56 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html 09:56 kaeza yuck... GPL :/ 09:56 Zeg9 Issa: minetest is, well, a compromise between build and survival 09:56 Zeg9 kaeza: yes, I may change it when I have time too, and if john agrees 09:57 Issa Zeg9, i ahave started the game but no animals in view 09:57 Zeg9 I didn't work on this project (platformutes) since a while 09:57 Zeg9 Wait for them to spawn 09:59 Issa well the map generateur have some problem 09:59 Issa i have some many apple in the air 09:59 Issa and i have to many montains 10:00 kaeza settings like mg_name and mg_flags are saved in the map meta right? 10:01 kaeza ard re-loaded when you enter the world? 10:01 kaeza and* 10:01 Zeg9 No, you need to recreate a map 10:01 kaeza ehm... 10:01 kaeza lemme explain 10:02 Zeg9 When you do /set they are set in minetest.conf, when you create a map they are copied to map meta 10:02 Infinity_69 !g zeg9 platformates github 10:02 MinetestBot Infinity_69: No results found for 'zeg9 platformates github'. 10:02 Zeg9 !g Platformutes. 10:02 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://sourceforge.net/projects/platformutes/ 10:02 kaeza I have created a world using mg_flags = flat for testing purposes 10:02 Issa sorry i don't understand ? 10:02 Infinity_69 Tnx zeg9 10:02 Issa i need to go, see u later 10:02 Zeg9 Bye 10:03 kaeza later I decided to create a new one using mg_flags = trees, caves, etc 10:03 kaeza but when I entered the flat world again, new mapblocks are being generated using the new settings (i.e. not flat) 10:04 Zeg9 Don't think I can help, I've had similar problems... 10:04 Zeg9 I once tried indev mapgen, then all my maps seem to be indev - the lava lakes are weird 10:05 kaeza so it is reproducible? haven't tested much 10:05 Zeg9 Even though all map metas contain mg_name = v6 and minetest.conf too... 10:05 Zeg9 ...or someone modified the mapgen v6. 10:06 kaeza hey PilzAdam 10:06 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:07 Zeg9 hI 10:07 Zeg9 Hi* caps lock... 10:08 Issa im back i have this error --> http://hpics.li/ae1e41b 10:08 Issa what do u think please 10:09 Zeg9 That you use windows 10:09 Infinity_69 Hi PilzAdam 10:09 Zeg9 There isn't any real error actually 10:09 Zeg9 Just proves the mod has been loaded 10:09 Issa couldn't open file of texture 10:10 Issa and i m still on the waiting screen on minetest 10:10 Zeg9 Don't care about these 10:10 Zeg9 Waiting screen, the black one or "Waiting content"? 10:14 Zeg9 brb 10:16 Jordach supporting minetest's default textures is a pita 10:22 PilzAdam New win build with fixed favorite serverlist: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 10:30 PilzAdam and where is the bug? 10:30 Jordach >bug.png 10:30 Jordach lol 10:31 PilzAdam they are designed to have icons 10:31 PilzAdam get the icon for minetest_game here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game 10:31 PilzAdam (in menu/) 10:31 Jordach well thats iconic 10:31 Jordach 10:39 PilzAdam Zeg9, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/098692ef26d115a05c0a1e5916588c8523789556 10:39 Zeg9 Ah, thanks. 10:48 sfan5 john_minetest: problems with jsbombers fixed! 10:52 sfan5 browser? 10:54 Zeg9 jsbombers? where? :P 10:54 sfan5 Zeg9: if you mean the improved version: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/ 10:54 Zeg9 trying 10:55 Zeg9 You closed it? 10:55 Zeg9 Cya 10:57 sfan5 Zeg9: no, it crashed 10:57 Jordach node.js ft 10:57 Jordach ftw/l 10:57 PilzAdam Zeg9, :D 10:58 Zeg9 First time I play this lol 11:05 Zeg9 Gotta go, cya later 11:15 * john_minetest hates avast antivirus 11:16 Jordach i shut that bitch up a long time ago 11:16 PilzAdam windows.... 11:16 Jordach gaming mode ftw 11:16 Jordach auto sandboxing is off for me :) 11:18 Jordach john_minetest, using GCC or MSVC 11:19 Jordach btw. 90Degrees: http://imgur.com/a/dmCmd 11:19 kaeza which character encoding uses minetest for internal strings? 11:19 Jordach char 11:19 kaeza ... 11:19 Jordach one of the endians i think 11:19 Jordach it might be unicode, afaik 11:20 kaeza hmm 11:21 rubenwardy hi all 11:21 Jordach hey rubenwardy 11:21 Jordach btw. 90Degrees: http://imgur.com/a/dmCmd 11:22 rubenwardy ? 11:23 Jordach rubenwardy, a proper texture pack 11:23 Jordach everything is default based (the colours) 11:31 rubenwardy any news 11:31 rubenwardy ? 11:31 kaeza hey ruben 11:33 rubenwardy hiya 11:35 rubenwardy um cake that looks like biscuits: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/food_nodeboxes2.png 11:41 arsdragonfly Is it possible to make the texture of bookshelves glassframelike? 11:41 Jordach probably 11:41 arsdragonfly It'll look nicer then 11:41 arsdragonfly perhaps it might need a inventory too 11:42 arsdragonfly so that we can put books into them 11:52 sfan5 john_minetest: #8dromeda 12:25 rubenwardy bye all 13:03 arsdragonfly http://imgur.com/FONlY1J 13:03 arsdragonfly yay 13:03 arsdragonfly a working bookshelf 13:03 arsdragonfly BTW how should I work with GitHub? 13:07 RealBadAngel what do you mean by "how"?? 13:48 kaeza jojoa1997, what do you mean "two functions"? 13:53 jojoa1997 om_place 13:53 jojoa1997 on 13:54 jojoa1997 on_place = {{set_fire},{activate_nether}}, 13:54 jojoa1997 hold your thought 13:54 kaeza jojoa1997, call those functions from another one maybe? 13:54 jojoa1997 i will be back in ~10 minutes 14:10 LunaVorax Does Minetest have a concrete roadmap? 14:11 arsdragonfly jojoa1997 : on_place = function(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing) set_fire() activate_nether() end 14:11 arsdragonfly doesn't it work? 14:18 Shayan Are there any good servers? 14:22 sdzen is pilzadam still alive? 14:22 PilzAdam kinda 14:22 * jin_xi hears voices from the grave 14:22 sdzen okay then, does simplemobs have some sort of population control in place? 14:23 PilzAdam yes 14:23 sdzen does it work well? 14:23 PilzAdam not really 14:23 PilzAdam it uses the standard ABM object count 14:23 sdzen can I suggest giving mobs a lifespan? 14:23 sdzen ie after a certain amount of time they just die off? 14:25 arsdragonfly PilzAdam: what do you mean by wrong identation? 14:25 PilzAdam you use spaces instead of tabs 14:25 arsdragonfly I used lua mode for emacs and pressed Tab to ident automatically 14:26 arsdragonfly Is there anyway to correct it automatically? 14:27 PilzAdam probably 14:28 jin_xi there is M-x tabify and M-x untabify 14:28 jin_xi idk if it works well tho 14:31 arsdragonfly should all the identation be tabs? 14:31 PilzAdam yes 14:34 arsdragonfly jin_xi: seems not working :-( 14:37 kaeza arsdragonfly, you can try the standalone `unexpand' command 14:37 kaeza if all else fails, sed is your friend :) 14:42 arsdragonfly kaeza :it prints to the standard output 14:43 arsdragonfly what should i pipe it to? 14:44 Zeg9 Hi! 14:44 arsdragonfly hello 14:44 kaeza arsdragonfly, unexpand file.lua > file2.lua && mv -f file2.lua file.lua 14:45 jojoa1997 kaeza ping pong 14:45 kaeza arsdragonfly, of course, you can delay the `mv' part after you checked that indeed the command made the right output 14:46 kaeza jojoa1997, read the forum topic 14:46 jojoa1997 i did 14:46 jojoa1997 but 14:46 jojoa1997 do you know C++\ 14:46 kaeza but? 14:46 jojoa1997 ? 14:47 kaeza what does C++ have to do with this? 14:47 jojoa1997 the hotbar only going up to 8 items 14:47 arsdragonfly kaeza: thanks a lot :-) 14:47 jojoa1997 try scrolling with a 9 item hotbar 14:47 kaeza jojoa1997, kahrl made a patch for it IIRC 14:47 kaeza arsdragonfly, np, anytime :) 14:48 jojoa1997 oh cool is it merged? 14:49 jojoa1997 Naked Fury why havent you updated dokucraft/test what ever you called it 14:49 sfan5 >>> 0.2+0.2+0.2 14:49 sfan5 0.6000000000000001 14:49 sfan5 ^ wat? 14:49 kaeza jojoa1997, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/699 14:50 kaeza sfan5, rounding errors inherent to floating point calculations 14:50 jojoa1997 is it merged i dont feel like turning on my tablet 14:51 kaeza that's why it's discouraged to do "if 2.0+2.0+2.0 == 6.0 then" 14:51 kaeza jojoa1997, nope 14:52 jojoa1997 "if 2.0+2.0+2.0 == range_1 then" 14:53 jojoa1997 "if 2.0+2.0+2.0 >= range + 0.1 and <= range - 0.5 then" 14:53 kaeza nope 14:53 jojoa1997 "if 2.0+2.0+2.0 <= range + 0.1 and >= range - 0.5 then" 14:53 jojoa1997 yeah that 14:53 jojoa1997 oh and -0.1 14:54 jojoa1997 i have made a descition 14:54 jojoa1997 descision 14:54 jojoa1997 word 14:54 jojoa1997 i have made word that i will find obsidian in minecraft 14:54 jojoa1997 after i play an adventure map 14:55 Kacey anyone want to play tf2? 15:00 kaeza !up 94.249.210.250 15:00 MinetestBot 94.249.210.250:30000 is up (0.771ms) 15:00 Kacey kaeza, what server is that? 15:00 kaeza mine 15:00 Kacey nice 15:00 * Zeg9 is annoyed he can't copy-paste in minetest 15:01 Kacey Zeg9, agreed 15:01 * kaeza too 15:01 Zeg9 At least xchat doesn't crash anymore when I try 15:03 jojoa1997 later todayu it should have the new minitest 15:03 Zeg9 jojoa, is there an icon in the menu for it ? :D 15:06 thexyz finally! 15:06 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5842 15:07 arsdragonfly PilzAdam: identation fixed 15:09 jojoa1997 Zeg9 yes and also a background. Though i need a better one 15:09 jojoa1997 but this one is good also 15:13 * Zeg9 wants to know how many people will be on the etherpad at the same time 15:14 jojoa1997 etherpad? 15:21 * Zeg9 is bored 15:21 Kacey Zeg9, lol 15:23 Zeg9 Anyone wanna play js bombers? 15:23 jojoa1997 i have pics 15:24 jojoa1997 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y23ta171tnb88uu/ybTxnnRiu6 15:24 jojoa1997 lookl closely 15:24 jojoa1997 wait brb 15:24 jojoa1997 i explain more later 15:26 Kacey Zeg9, sure throw me the link please 15:26 Kacey nvm got it 15:26 jojoa1997 ok one is regular and the 2 others are resized using linear and cubic whatever that means 15:26 jojoa1997 which looks best 15:26 thexyz http://bombermine.com/ 15:26 Zeg9 Hmm it won't start 15:27 Kacey Zeg9, are you playing js bombers? 15:27 Zeg9 sfan5, it doesn't show me the game screen 15:27 sfan5 Zeg9: weird 15:27 Zeg9 worked 15:27 Zeg9 I am, on sfan5's 15:28 sfan5 thexyz: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083 15:36 Kacey http://www.coolifiedgames.com/car-racing-games-coaster-racer-2/index.html not bad graphics 15:41 jojoa1997 !up 94.249.210.250 15:41 MinetestBot 94.249.210.250:30000 seems to be down 15:41 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, still, what is the point of your addition? 15:42 Zeg9 until we have books we can write in... 15:43 Zeg9 sfan5: only because my brother is shouting at me to play with him 15:43 sfan5 Zeg9: haha 15:43 sapier VanessaE are slabs and stairs missing for moretrees on purpose? 15:43 jojoa1997 Zeg9 play with him 15:44 sfan5 zeg9 knows whats up with bombs: http://i.imgur.com/7EBi88A.png 15:45 Sketch2 I can't get debug info for some reason, even tho its enabled verbose in conf 15:45 Zeg9 Wtf, my computer just crashed 15:46 arsdragonfly PilzAdam: books that can be written on might be added in the future 15:47 PilzAdam but they arent added yet 15:48 sdzen http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=19387#p19387 hello hello! could someone move the to minetest games in the forums? I tihnk it meets all criteria! 15:49 sapier is there any reason why you can't make slabs and stairs from desert stone? 15:50 arsdragonfly PilzAdam :so it's yet a decorative feature,just like books and bookshelves themselves :-) 15:50 arsdragonfly but it might becom3 useful 16:00 Kacey uugh i have to go march today 16:01 NakedFury band march or soldier march? 16:04 sfan5 kaeza: are you "diego" in JSBombers? 16:04 kaeza yup 16:04 tripod sunday here 16:04 sfan5 kaeza: you got 5 more coins than me 16:04 kaeza are coins persistent? 16:05 kaeza I think I will play a bit more later 16:05 kaeza that game is cool ^^ 16:07 Kacey NakedFury, marching band 16:07 * Zeg9 starts to hate his browser again 16:08 * Kacey doesnt want to march in heavy clothes in 90 degree weather for hours 16:11 * jojoa1997 finished the menu background for MiniTest 16:11 Zeg9 Nice... But now I hate minecraft again :( 16:13 jojoa1997 why? 16:13 jojoa1997 play singleplayer 16:13 jojoa1997 offline 16:13 jojoa1997 that is the only way i play 16:14 jojoa1997 i hate my browser too 16:14 Zeg9 just that my brother forces me to play minecraft with him -_- 16:14 jojoa1997 Zeg9 how old is your bother 16:14 Zeg9 He shouts until he's at bed if I don't play -_- 16:14 Zeg9 He's 6... 16:14 Zeg9 Oh, he calmed down. 16:14 jojoa1997 zeg9 buy earmuff's and tell him no 16:15 jojoa1997 or 16:15 Zeg9 Hope he'll forget this idea for quite some time :P 16:15 jojoa1997 get him on a good and busy server 16:15 jojoa1997 Zeg9 PLAYU MINECRAFT WITH ME!!! 16:16 Zeg9 ... 16:16 Zeg9 Good and busy server --> most require to have bought minecraft 16:16 jojoa1997 oh 16:16 jojoa1997 soZeg9 has my type of minecraft 16:16 Zeg9 But let's stop talking about this 16:18 Zeg9 What could I do now 16:18 jojoa1997 you could 16:18 jojoa1997 play minecraft with your brother? >:-D 16:19 NakedFury play now or regret it when he is older and doesnt want to be bothered to play with you 16:19 NakedFury you will miss that small annoying guy wanting to ply with youu 16:19 jojoa1997 Yeah Zeg9 16:20 jojoa1997 i miss my little sister wanting to play with me. now i beg here out of complete boredome and she requests impossible requests 16:20 Zeg9 But /me knows minecraft by heart, and doesn't find any fun playing it... 16:20 NakedFury but you know minetest the same way, are you bored of it? 16:21 Zeg9 I am quite bored, yes. 16:21 jojoa1997 Zeg9 go jump off a cliff 16:21 Zeg9 ... 16:21 NakedFury that happens to all games 16:21 jojoa1997 in the ocean underwater 16:21 Zeg9 Not to my brother :P 16:21 jojoa1997 NakedFury so true 16:21 jojoa1997 Zeg9 go read a book 16:22 jojoa1997 a book . .-.-.lp;-. -. 4 16:22 * jojoa1997 in a ghost voice 16:22 NakedFury before I can re read a book almost a or up to a year most have passed 16:22 jojoa1997 go read a book or face your BROTHER! 16:22 Zeg9 ...With the sort of books teachers want us to read, I won't read a book until, well,... maybe like NakedFury 16:23 jojoa1997 Zeg9 want to borrow from jmy library i literally have books from all ages 16:23 jojoa1997 personal btw 16:23 NakedFury lets say I read the hobbit now. I wont think about reading it again until a year or more has passed 16:23 Kacey books? what is this wizardry? 16:23 jojoa1997 i get punished for reading too much 16:24 Zeg9 Seriously?... 16:24 jojoa1997 others for staying out to late 16:24 * jojoa1997 is messed up 16:24 jojoa1997 well we all are. i mean how old are we and we are playing minetest/minecraft 16:25 Exio hey 16:25 Exio i fin d MC still "funny" - sometimes :P 16:25 jojoa1997 well not us young people but others.... 16:25 jojoa1997 jk 16:25 jojoa1997 :P 16:25 Exio not for surviving in survival, just for PvP or building l33t stuff with manually gathered resorces 16:26 Exio resources* find* 16:26 jojoa1997 i will be playing this for a long time until I make a 4d one 16:26 Exio killing blazes in the nether, fliping around, jumping to the lava, drinking the fire resistance potion a bit before you get in lava 16:26 jojoa1997 Exio i need to play with others for excitement 16:26 jojoa1997 ... 16:26 Exio i play in a server :P 16:26 * Zeg9 will write for project perabird 16:26 jojoa1997 that is why i annoy my little sister to play with me :D 16:27 jojoa1997 Exio want to play on a himachi server 16:27 Exio nah 16:27 jojoa1997 Exio i play adventure maps 16:28 jojoa1997 oh and minitest will be getting good tnt 16:28 Zeg9 Be back later 16:28 jojoa1997 bbl 16:28 Exio jojoa1997: ping? 16:30 jojoa1997 Exio: WHO DARE AWAKE ME IN MY SLUMBER! 16:30 Exio wat 16:30 Exio jojoa1997: query? 16:31 jojoa1997 Exio: WHO DARE QUARY ME IN MY SLUMBER! 16:31 Exio wtf 16:31 jojoa1997 WHO THE DARE F ME IN MY SLUMBER! 16:31 jojoa1997 wait nonono 16:31 jojoa1997 WTF not F 16:46 Zeg9 jojoa1997: now I remember why I didn't wanna play with him in the first place... 17:01 Kacey bbl 17:06 jojoa1997 Zeg9 17:07 Zeg9 Back 17:09 Zeg9 Gotta go 17:57 Guest32668 hey there i got some problems with minetest :( 17:58 Exio what problems? 17:58 kaeza what problems? 17:58 kaeza :D 17:58 Exio kaeza pls :P 17:58 Exio i'll sue you for using my copyrighted phrase 17:59 kaeza D: 17:59 [0gb_us] I have a problem with it too. It has no robots. 17:59 Guest32668 playing minetest and auto quit 17:59 Guest32668 sometimes need restart computer per that 17:59 [0gb_us] Sounds like a crash to me. 18:01 kaeza [0gb_us], robots? 18:02 [0gb_us] It's an inside joke, you had to be there. Jordan posted about how Minetest not having any robots was a big problem. 18:02 [0gb_us] kaeza, ^ 18:03 kaeza oh nvm then :) 18:03 * kaeza goes back to code fps_pack 18:04 Guest32668 do u know how to change the name i hate to be quest :P 18:04 Guest32668 i am per irssi 18:04 [0gb_us] /nick 18:05 [0gb_us] I think that will work in irssi, but not sure. 18:05 Gabby yeah better :) 18:06 Gabby it works but someone have name /nick gabriele so i quested it works here 18:33 * Zeg9 has an existencial question 18:34 Zeg9 In a client, should a socket recv be placed inside a thread while the rendering is in the main thread, or should I use async sockets (if I understand them...) 18:43 celeron55 Zeg9: it depends 18:46 celeron55 Zeg9: if you transfer large amounts of data, it's best handled elsewhere; but if you just have a few control packets, then having two threads has no actual benefit (and likely is less work; but you lose the scalability to larger transfers without doing extra work later) 18:46 celeron55 s/and likely is less work/and one thread is likely is less work/ 18:47 Zeg9 Guess I'll do one thread then, but how can I make non blocking sockets ? All I found was for python... I'll try to ixquick it a bit more 18:47 celeron55 minetest is basically single-threaded (but after receiving certain things it immediately offloads some processing to other threads, thus not bocking the update loop) 18:48 celeron55 blocking* 18:48 Zeg9 Seems I found, thanks for your help 18:49 celeron55 the magic word is O_NONBLOCK 8) 18:51 Zeg9 Is it the same for win32 ? 18:51 Zeg9 As they always do things differently... 18:52 celeron55 i'm not sure; i would guess that the low-level socket api of windows has it too 18:52 Zeg9 I found something around line 192 of minetest->socket.cpp now... 18:53 celeron55 minetest uses UDP, so that may not be directly applicable to some other thing (which likely uses TCP (which is generally a better idea)) 18:54 Zeg9 Well, yeah, I use tcp 18:54 Zeg9 Didn't want to handle all the stuff related to udp 18:54 hmmmm minetest has a lot of overhead to sending/receiving data, i wouldn't use it as any sort of reference... 18:55 celeron55 minetest uses UDP, and uses blocking sockets, and polls the sockets using select() with a very small timeout; overally it isn't really what should be done (at least in this case) 18:56 celeron55 but now that i think of it, Zeg9 should use select() and blocking sockets too 18:56 celeron55 (most likely) 18:56 Zeg9 Going to eat now, see you later guys 18:58 celeron55 hmmmm: i can think of one thing to which it is a good reference: making a protocol so obfuscated that nobody will ever make a second implementation 18:59 celeron55 notch should've used something like this, not us :D 19:08 hmmmm by us you mean you 19:10 hmmmm if it were up to me, i would have much, much less abstraction when it comes to packet handling, the packet handling happening in the same thread as the socket servicing, asychronous sockets, polled with kqueue(), epoll(), /dev/poll, WSAPoll(), or whatever the ideal polling mechanism is for that operating system 19:11 hmmmm select() would be an absolutely last resort 19:13 hmmmm in a server i wrote for a different game, i had multiple connection pools each servicing some number of sockets each (128 was the default) doing roughly what i just described 19:13 hmmmm scaled like a beast 19:16 Telek celeron55: Hey, if nothing else it runs okay over dialup, so it's not THAT terrible :D 19:17 sfan5 chrome has the 2x sound speed bug again... 19:21 * sfan5 needs someone to play JSBombers with 20:31 Jordach|Web sfan5: y u close js bombers? 20:33 sfan5 Jordach|Web: i didn't 20:34 Jordach|Web gg 20:38 Jordach|Web sfan5: its looking nice as a game now 20:38 sfan5 ik 20:38 Jordach|Web just needs more html polisg 20:38 Jordach|Web polish* 20:38 sfan5 you can help me if you want 20:38 sfan5 if you have chrome the element inspector is an excellent tool to play around with html 20:39 Jordach|Web nag 20:39 Jordach|Web nah 20:39 Jordach|Web im currently in friedfox right now 21:01 OldCoder Jordach, hi 21:05 Jordach hey OldCoder 21:05 Jordach what do you need 21:06 OldCoder Nothing 21:06 OldCoder Well, that isn't true 21:06 * Jordach is currently busy 21:06 OldCoder But it was simply a hello 21:07 STHGOM hi :D 21:07 kaeza weird error 21:07 OldCoder I lost my connection 21:07 kaeza hi STHGOM 21:07 OldCoder Am I back? 21:08 kaeza yes 21:08 kaeza hi OldCoder 21:08 sdzen hi people 21:08 kaeza hey sdzen 21:08 sdzen I was addressing people, not you 21:08 sdzen is people on? 21:08 kaeza :P 21:09 kaeza oh right... I'm an alien 21:09 kaeza I remember now 21:10 OldCoder Jordach, wb 21:11 OldCoder and it was just a hello before 21:11 Jordach OldCoder, this laptop likes to disconnect 21:11 Jordach also: thats the best read error ever 21:11 STHGOM what server ussaly has the most players? 21:11 Jordach wazuclan 0.4.6 21:12 Jordach i see about 10 different players a day in the irc channel for the server 21:12 Jordach it also has a custom protection system 21:13 Jordach you use worldedit to protect a area 21:15 Jordach (which the admins obviously do) 21:15 Jordach STHGOM, ^ 21:16 STHGOM ok 21:17 STHGOM hi 21:20 Jordach brb 21:20 sfan5 good night 21:20 STHGOM bye!!! 21:22 Jordach aw man 21:23 Jordach anyone up for a game of http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/ 21:23 Jordach (js bombers) 21:23 Jordach ping me if youre going to play me 21:23 STHGOM whats that? 21:23 Jordach something like bomberman 21:24 STHGOM WHATS THAT? 21:24 Jordach try it 21:24 STHGOM ok ;) 21:26 STHGOM ooOOOooooohhhh! 21:27 Jordach STHGOM, youre up 21:27 STHGOM :D 21:27 STHGOM BOMB!! 21:28 kaeza aww... sdzen disconnected 21:28 sdzen it cheated! 21:29 kaeza well, yeah 21:29 Jordach kaeza, youre up 21:29 kaeza Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to sfan5.dyndns.org:8083 21:29 kaeza ? 21:30 Jordach sfan5, is your bombers down again 21:33 iqualfragile1 thexyz: i think it was you controlling minetest.ru, wasnt it? 21:34 sdzen http://i3.minus.com/ibyXqNQ51XBfUg.png 21:34 iqualfragile1 can you give me access to the server? 21:34 sdzen how? 21:34 sdzen look at the palyer list! 21:34 sdzen player* 21:35 proller__ Calinou is griefer :( 21:38 sdzen looks like it 21:38 Jordach can i have a medal for playing wii sports tennis and irc'ing 21:39 STHGOM hehehe 21:40 Jordach im good at bowling, tennis and golf 21:40 STHGOM kinect is better :D 21:40 Jordach FUCK NO 21:40 NakedFury wii and kinect were wasted things for sport games 21:40 Jordach that unaccurate piece of crap? 21:40 NakedFury and yes kinect makes wii eat shit 21:40 Jordach wii motion+ 21:42 iqualfragile1 what about qitting the fight about sports simulations and just doing some real sports? 21:42 iqualfragile1 or are you american? 21:42 NakedFury I would do sports if I had friends close by doing sports 22:00 sdzen oh shit jordach are you going to let him call you american? 22:01 Jordach fuck no 22:05 proller__ 22:26 kaeza slow news day @ the forumz 22:27 kaeza that awkward moment when you want to misspell "the" as "teh" and you end up misspelling "teh" as "the" 22:29 enchilado that awkward moment when you want to misspell "the" as "teh" 22:30 hmmmm that awkward moment when you want to misspell "the" as "teh" but you can't because of your irc client's autocorrect 22:42 NakedFury the 22:42 NakedFury yep 22:42 NakedFury I had to check 22:54 kaeza hrm 22:55 kaeza I just found a problem with my find_pointed_thing function 22:57 kaeza apparently, PA's simple mobs models don't use the same anchor point/whatever as the default players 22:58 kaeza so get_objects_in_radius() returns inaccurate results 22:58 kaeza very inaccurate* 22:58 PilzAdam hm? 22:58 kaeza oh not a problem in your code actually 22:59 kaeza I just need to account for different collision boxes for different entities 23:00 kaeza hmm... I wonder if this would be better implemented in C++... 23:00 kaeza would this be useful to anyone else? 23:02 kaeza basically, it would be the same thing the game does to find what the player is pointing at, but more flexible in that it allows to specify the range (length), which entities to ignore, etc 23:04 PilzAdam look at game.cpp:247 23:05 PilzAdam hmm... you could run getPointedThing() with look_for_object=false when you find an object and compare the length of the 2 results 23:05 kaeza meh, I'll leave as it is now 23:23 hmmmm this guy's jacket is awesome: http://i.imgur.com/qWY3IXO.jpg 23:27 kaeza hmmmm, :D 23:27 kaeza best jacket EVAR 23:28 sdzen I want IT! 23:30 kaeza hmm... the other day someone pointed that with some optimization options, day/night cycle was screwed 23:31 kaeza I just found this was reported long ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/143 23:57 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, please no away nicks 23:57 sdzen why not? 23:57 PilzAdam because its annoying 23:57 sdzen it prevents confusion 23:57 PilzAdam you mark yourself silently as away 23:58 PilzAdam +can 23:58 sdzen but that is no fun 23:58 sdzen :) 23:58 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Alright, /away Away it is then 23:58 sdzen we dont reprimand the people who come on, then head off just to register their nick 23:59 ShadowNinja The change is automatic, I use a bouncer