Time Nick Message 00:00 Exio --[ comment ]-- iirc 00:00 khonkhortisan --[[ comment --]] 00:01 khonkhortisan Take out the second [ and it uncomments 00:01 Traxie21 NVM, nil is working 00:02 khonkhortisan I just can't figure out how the size being higher than the offset can create a gap 00:04 Traxie21 Exio, Potionspack has been modified to allow overlapping effects, changes comitted 00:04 Exio :D 00:12 bas080 Can i use right click event for tools? 00:12 bas080 I am trying to make a tool with a different right click and left click feature. 00:14 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/lgJY56zp_vU?t=3m17s Here's the spawners 00:15 savedgames Exio, LTC, Do you know about the technologies used in BTC, like checksums or proof of work and digital signatures? Do these topics interest you or do you only know about the practical benefits of BTC, LTC etc? 00:15 mauvebic ponzi schemes? 00:16 Traxie21 jordan4ibanez, why not use particles for the water spawner? 00:16 savedgames hell, even Gavin says that you should only invest time and money into Bitcoin that you are comfortable losing. 00:16 jordan4ibanez Because with items, you can get water from the fountain 00:16 Traxie21 oh 00:16 savedgames so if you're not interested don't do it, but misrepresenting facts about Bitcoin because you don't understand is just shitty 00:16 Traxie21 well, adding some particles in there would make it look better 00:17 savedgames and spreading myths 00:17 mauvebic i understand it pretty well 00:17 mauvebic its a pump and dump scheme 00:17 mauvebic perpetuated by the exchanges 00:17 mauvebic they call it getting zhou tonged' 00:17 savedgames mauvebic, you understand neither digital signatures, nor proof of work. 00:17 mauvebic then they close shop, and bail out 00:17 savedgames so you can only spread misinformation since you do not understand the technology. Thus FUD 00:17 mauvebic mmmhmmm 00:17 jordan4ibanez I know, but it is just a test, I like how you can actually get the water lol 00:18 mauvebic tell me, who actually created bitcoin? cuz we still dont know lol 00:18 savedgames most of Bitcoins followers don't understand Bitcoin but also help in spreading the myths 00:18 mauvebic i see you went to the bernie madoff school of finance 00:19 mauvebic you wont find many suckers here, its an opensource game, people didn't pay for it lol 00:19 savedgames still they defend it. Which makes them totally crazy. Bitcoin is all about digital signatures, checksums and nothing else. These are proven technologies that exist in Bank-ID and Bittorrent. Nothing new really 00:19 savedgames I'm talking about donations 00:19 khonkhortisan savedgames, since when did mauvebic stop understanding the technology? 00:20 mauvebic i think they'd rather take donations in currencies they can pay the hosting with 00:20 savedgames khonkhortisan, Do you understand it? 00:20 khonkhortisan since != because 00:20 mauvebic i know a scam when i see one lol i ran a UPS store 00:21 mauvebic telemarketing and whole host of crap 00:21 savedgames Bitcoin is based on Public-key cryptography. 00:21 jordan4ibanez I ran a mile, doesn't mean I know shoes :D 00:21 mauvebic go ahead, sink your funds into BTC then jordan :p 00:22 savedgames but no encryption. So many journalists that can't tell the distinction between enccryption and cryptography, really they are probably just helping spreading misinformation 00:22 mauvebic no one on slashdot is buying it anymore and barely any defenders left either 00:22 savedgames mauvebic, foodler is the last one that accept it. 00:24 mauvebic dont know foodler 00:24 mauvebic jesus christ, i thought a tornado was gonna descend on my house, now its all quiet :/ 00:25 savedgames In its core Bitcoin is only about Public key cryptography, that is digital signatures, and checksums. 00:26 savedgames though you don't have to find out. I'm glad you are giving minetest. Thanks...and with that I can leave peacefully :D 00:26 mauvebic technology isn't the problem ,its how the exchanges manipulate the rates to fleece their own customers, and they say BTC is better than modern banking lol 00:26 mauvebic im not giving minetest, c55 is :p 00:26 mauvebic and cie 00:27 savedgames c55 and the community. 00:27 savedgames or rather 'the community' since I'm not familiar. 00:27 mauvebic well some people contribute more hot air than others, but yes :) 00:27 arsdragonfly Bitcoin causes deflation 00:27 arsdragonfly like what gold does 00:28 Kacey i had a fun day today 00:28 Kacey went up to CU-Boulder on a field trip 00:28 savedgames I'm usually irritated by the overpromotion of Bitcoin when the people promoting has little or no idea at all how it works. 00:28 savedgames I mean not even grabbing the very basics. 00:29 savedgames Common assumptions is that Bitcoin uses encryption. 00:29 savedgames Bitcoin doesn't use encryption but it uses cryptography. There's a wild difference there. 00:29 mauvebic but all the cryptography in the word can't alleviate the ponzi-ness and criminal behaviour of the exchanges 00:29 mauvebic *world 00:30 savedgames Are you saying that trading Bitcoins for USD or EUR is a criminal act? 00:30 mauvebic in a sense some people are right, people who use BTC deserve to get fleeced 00:30 mauvebic no, taking your customers' USD/EUR/BTC and blaming it on a hack is criminal 00:30 savedgames Are you doing an argument? 00:30 arsdragonfly Deflation will ruin Bitcoin one day 00:30 savedgames wait, what? 00:30 arsdragonfly The more you pay,the more you lose 00:31 savedgames "no, taking your customers' USD/EUR/BTC and blaming it on a hack is criminal", what do you mean?? 00:31 mauvebic you never heard of Zhou Tong? 00:31 savedgames who is doing that and what happened to you? 00:31 mauvebic "oh we got hacked, and you'll get half your money back, and i quit" 00:31 savedgames mauvebic, well some people get rather trusting of people. I think people should think before trusting any random stranger on the internet. 00:31 mauvebic especially a 17year old running an exchange 00:32 mauvebic i hear that are lawsuits in the pipeworks 00:32 savedgames As Gavin Andresen, main developer of Bitcoin-qt says: "Gavin's Standard Public Service Announcement #2: Only invest time or money into Bitcoin that you can afford to lose." 00:32 arsdragonfly Suggest that you have 1Kg of gold,and you won't pay everything with it 00:32 mauvebic thats a pretty clear indication of what will happen 00:32 savedgames that means spare change, not your life savings. Some people are just freakin crazy 00:33 arsdragonfly cuz the price of gold is rising 00:33 mauvebic i think it crashed or dipped lately 00:33 mauvebic (gold) 00:33 savedgames I don't doubt at all that many ponzi lunatics have gotten into Bitcoin seeing it as a chance to scam people. 00:33 arsdragonfly the more you pay with it ,the more you lose potentially 00:33 savedgames "i hear that are lawsuits in the pipeworks", FUD. 00:33 savedgames FinCEN has accepted Bitcoin 00:33 Exio savedgames: i have a "bare" know (as, i know in terms of reading a bit and so, not as i actually know how it works) 00:34 arsdragonfly Thus NO ONE will pay with Bitcoin in the future either 00:34 savedgames Literally meaning, you can use it legally in the USA on account of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network 00:34 arsdragonfly and Bitcoin has NO PRACTICAL USE as a kind of CURRENCY 00:34 Exio uh? 00:35 savedgames arsdragonfly, it has little to no fees. Actually the fees are optional according to the protocol 00:35 savedgames Though most Bitcoin programs usually suggest the 0.0005 fee. 00:35 mauvebic pump and dump: http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/10/18/1433258/vast-bulk-of-bitcoins-are-hoarded-not-used 00:36 mauvebic lawsuit: http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/08/13/236252/hacked-bitcoin-exchange-sued-by-customers 00:37 Exio "Bitcoinica, an exchange for the BitCoin virtual currency, is being sued by former customers, after it was hacked. Thieves stole around $180,000 worth of BitCoins in two attacks. The site is now closed, and customers are suing to get their money back." 00:37 Exio )> not related to the currency 00:37 savedgames Yeah...that's not a lawsuit against Bitcoin as a currency and technology but rather as a lawsuit against a Bitcoin exchange 00:37 arsdragonfly savedgames :I know that,but What will you do if you have some gold and some US dollars? 00:37 Exio the first link, tell me where is the 75% of the REAL money 00:37 Exio hint: big companies 00:37 savedgames arsdragonfly, Idk, it's your life 00:38 mauvebic http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/16/1244205/500000-worth-of-bitcoins-stolen 00:38 arsdragonfly savedgames :everyone will choose to pay with US dollars 00:38 jordan4ibanez Oh god I'm submitting images of minetest to imgur, what have I done 00:38 mauvebic http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/20/1956211/legal-tender-maybe-not-says-louisiana-law 00:38 arsdragonfly savedgames :Even if they worth the same at the moment. But they won't in the future. 00:39 savedgames arsdragonfly, there are also downsides to USD, EUR, etc. You should know there are also downsides to Bitcoin, but we have our upsides too like resistance to economic censorship as an example. Near to zero fees, since by the protocol the fees are optional. 00:39 mauvebic 3x this: http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/06/19/2125252/bitcoin-price-crashes 00:39 mauvebic ponzi: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/08/29/0349226/large-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-collapses-with-a-loss-of-56-million 00:39 mauvebic enough links 00:39 savedgames arsdragonfly, yeah. Usually the price volatility makes it so sucky that I hate it, though I appreciate the upsides. But yes price volatility is really really sucky in Bitcoin 00:39 Exio mauvebic: "5000 worth..." that happens in real life, 00:40 mauvebic the only difference is we have deposit insurance at real banks 00:40 Exio yes, it crashed in terms of value, it is a currency 00:40 savedgames A real downside in Bitcoin is price volatility, and yes we all know about it. 00:40 Exio ^ 00:41 savedgames There are upsides though, and sometimes those upsides may be what gives Bitcoin it's worth. 00:41 mauvebic hardly surprising they burn through people's funds and evangelize for new suckers 00:41 arsdragonfly savedgames : Yeah,and it's barely better than gold, I mean you can't expect it to replace USD or so 00:41 savedgames arsdragonfly, Try sending me some gold in 10 minutes...No kidding 00:42 savedgames gold is a metal 00:42 savedgames just like zinc or copper is a metal, I think, right? 00:43 arsdragonfly yup and that's its upside 00:43 mauvebic my government is creating a real digital currency (legal tender) for microtransactions 00:43 savedgames mauvebic, The devs of Bitcoin say it is beta software for a reason... if you watch most version of Bitcoin software it usually starts at 0.6.x or 0.7.x 00:43 mauvebic http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/11/2250226/canadian-mint-to-create-digital-currency 00:43 savedgames It's not something you should just start trusting without doing any research. I think that's just dumb. 00:44 savedgames But spreading misinformation only helps misinforming yourself and your surroundings. 00:44 savedgames Bitcoin has weaknesses but it also has strengths. 00:44 mauvebic spreading "misinformation" hurts the ponzi scheme, yeah 00:44 savedgames Ain't the same true for USD or do you only see 100% strenghts? 00:45 mauvebic the USD is backed by a government, and collateralized with tax revenue 00:45 Exio mauvebic: your only point is that, no? 00:45 mauvebic its enough for most people, and more than BTC can claim 00:46 savedgames mauvebic, I don't ask you to read on about digital signatures nor about proof of work or checksums. I respect you as you are, but calling all people using Bitcoin 'ponzi' is just ignorant. 00:46 Exio savedgames: he'll never understand what a key in crypto is 00:46 mauvebic digital signatures, cryptography and checksums over and over doesn't change the fact that its a giant ponzi scheme 00:47 mauvebic where do you people live to put so much faith in BTC? 00:47 savedgames Exio, ok. I've used PGP/GPG in emails cause I've studied about Public key cryptography in education. 00:47 savedgames Exio. Do you know about public key cryptography or is that a topic you have not yet researched or learnt about? 00:48 Exio i'm not an expert of that, but i understand how it works in a "basic level" 00:48 savedgames mauvebic, as I said I don't have much faith in the Bitcoin price. Did I not say that? 00:48 Exio mauvebic: you use it as any local currency in its own country 00:48 mauvebic not just the price, i have no faith in its creator, the exchange operators, or the hoarders lol 00:49 savedgames Exio, do you know what is required to make a digital signature and what is required for another person to verify that your digital signature is correct? 00:49 Traxie21 an onion? 00:49 savedgames I mean the basics. Do they need a public key or a private key or both? 00:49 savedgames otherwise, it's something that can be looked up, given time of course. 00:50 savedgames Exio, do you have any questions regarding how it works? 00:50 Exio wut 00:50 arsdragonfly As for Ponzi Scheme,does anyone think that USD / EUR is a Ponzi Scheme? 00:50 savedgames Exio, so are you interested in learning more about how Bitcoin works or are you happy with what you already know? 00:50 Exio savedgames: i know how it works for messages 00:50 Exio savedgames: i'm happy with what i already know 00:51 savedgames Exio, right ok. I enjoyed your fix for the bug. So wanna express my thanks! 00:52 jordan4ibanez Oh my, cispa has passed while those bombings went on 00:53 savedgames I need some sleep. I went here to get help on a bug and I got help, and also learnt it is solved so I wanna wish everyone a good night. 00:53 savedgames Bitcoin really ain't that complex though technical skills or interest in technology might be necessary. Though misinformation is common so, well...have fun 00:56 mauvebic http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/ 01:02 jordan4ibanez I don't think minetest survives well on imgur lol 01:04 jordan4ibanez I will push it through until they love it xD 01:06 mauvebic well with zimg down for the count it should get more popular lol 01:06 mauvebic they finally got the 2nd suspect btw 01:07 Traxie21 Added Health/Harming I and II to potionspack 01:07 Traxie21 GUI looks nice, but I need some timer code 01:08 jordan4ibanez Oh wait, can't we add breathing to the game now? :D 01:08 Traxie21 yep we can jordy 01:09 Traxie21 Anyone got some good 1-second repeat-action timer code that can accept variables? 01:12 m_khonkhortisan hi! 01:13 m_khonkhortisan im suprised i could connect with this 01:15 m_khonkhortisan ping khonkhortisan :P 01:18 Kacey * Ping reply from m_khonkhortisan: 1.16 second(s) 01:18 Traxie21 New update to potions/potionspack, they both need to be redownloaded together 01:19 LAD Traxie i had a problem with your potions pack 01:19 m_khonkhortisan that's a slow ping 01:19 Traxie21 do tell LAD 01:20 LAD i tired it than it came up with the error of something about not able to chnage the game fisixs(sorry for bad spelling) 01:20 Traxie21 You need a very recent git verision 01:20 LAD ... 01:20 LAD kk 01:20 Traxie21 As of the latest update, you need a version about 2 days old 01:21 Traxie21 or newer 01:21 LAD hmmm 01:21 m_khonkhortisan driving back to my other nick... 01:21 LAD i'll PilzAdam's version later 01:25 * Kacey is having luacontroller problems 01:27 Kacey nvm got it 01:31 savedgames "tell me, who actually created bitcoin? cuz we still dont know lol". Julian Assange. Why? Well a stupid question deserves a stupid answer 01:33 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/UFg726dx 01:35 Traxie21 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85176#p85176 01:38 Kacey someone want to get on my server and see what is wrong with my clock? 01:38 ShadowNinja Traxie21: minetest.after is called improperly 01:38 Traxie21 do tell 01:38 Psychotic So whos this hmm person? 01:39 Psychotic Mauve made an awesome miod and this hmm person wont even let it in. What a joke. 01:39 Psychotic ... 01:39 ShadowNinja minetest.after(1, timer, player, str) 01:40 Psychotic ... 01:40 Psychotic Fine. Ignore me,. I dont care. 01:40 ShadowNinja Psychotic: Be patient, he is a core developer 01:41 Psychotic Core developer? Erm, this is a community based game, there should be no "core developers" 01:42 ShadowNinja Core developer means someone with push access 01:42 Psychotic So they have control over what can be added? 01:42 * Kacey is getting annoyed at this clock 01:42 ShadowNinja Yes 01:43 Psychotic Are you fucking kidding me? So we have someone who is too stupid to realive the potential of a great mod, and who wont add it? 01:43 Traxie21 ShadowNinja: Didnt work, same error 01:44 jordan4ibanez I think the people commenting on this http://imgur.com/gallery/XXsN5du/new don't know it's minetest and not minecraft lol 01:45 ShadowNinja are you sure you used timer and not timer()? 01:45 Traxie21 yep 01:45 Traxie21 somewhere in there, theres a nil value 01:45 Psychotic Whatever man, im not gonna waste my time on a game just to bust my ass working on a awesome mod and not have it added due to someone catching the stupid virus. 01:46 Traxie21 welp 01:46 Traxie21 goodnight 01:47 Psychotic Night all. Im outta here. 01:48 jordan4ibanez psychotic if I had that mineset... :D 01:49 Psychotic Man, i wish i knew how to code, id make some awesome stuff, but this autism crap i got makes it hard to learn how to code stuff. 01:49 Psychotic Bro, id probably be banned if my stuff got constantly denied for no reason 01:52 jordan4ibanez Just start one thing at a time 01:53 kaeza greetings humanity 01:59 RealBadAngel hi 01:59 RealBadAngel with this you are tryin to tell us that youre not human? ;) 01:59 kaeza I'm from the planet of lunatics 02:00 kaeza just like the rest of us :) 02:00 RealBadAngel hehe 02:00 RealBadAngel indeed 02:00 RealBadAngel its 4am here, and i just woke up ;) 02:00 kaeza good morning then :) 02:02 kaeza what did I miss? are there 4D players already :P 02:02 * kaeza will stalk the github commits 02:04 jordan4ibanez we needz block friction :D 02:05 ShadowNinja kaeza! 0gb.us and me have some stuff to fix in the irc mod, he has a pull request up. 02:05 mauvebic Psychotic i didn't make a colored lights made, i just made a proof of concept for a feature, anyone can add mods 02:05 ShadowNinja s/me/I/ 02:06 mauvebic *colored lights mod 02:07 Psychotic so whats mapgen v7? 02:07 jordan4ibanez it's amazing mapgen 02:07 jordan4ibanez I don't know how to activate it yet though :( 02:07 mauvebic map_meta or minetest.conf 02:07 Psychotic Also, what can i expect from 0.4.7? 02:07 Deivan RealBadAngel, the medium voltage cable don't work with the turbine? 02:08 ShadowNinja Psychotic: the latest version of mapgen, non-functional atm 02:08 mauvebic lots and lots of minor fixes and things :p 02:08 Psychotic so its gonna be a bug fix update? 02:08 ShadowNinja better ask hmmmm what he has planed 02:10 mauvebic well there is the hud thats in git 02:10 RealBadAngel Deivan, by now only power source for MV is solar panel 02:10 Deivan Ok. 02:10 Kacey turbine? 02:10 mauvebic back to dishes 02:11 Deivan Geothermal... 02:11 Deivan Sorry. 02:11 Deivan I have a turbine in my game a some time ago, I don't have anymore, I lost the refference from the source... Hehehe. 02:13 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5602 nobody seems to care about my mod :( 02:13 Kacey of course my only working mod isn't popular :( 02:14 Kacey it is only v0.1 and people expect it to be a mod that adds big things 02:16 Exio kaeza: !! 02:18 Deivan I am more of type of guy who search for functional blocks, but some times I search for decorative, I found recently the homedecor. :D 02:18 Kacey but this is my first functioning mod 02:18 Kacey There is more to come in later versions 02:19 Deivan I added your topic to my bookmark. But post some screenshots, this make more easy to attract people. :D 02:20 Kacey ompldr hates me lol 02:22 Deivan Well, after removed mobs mod my game a significative beter FPS. 02:22 Deivan I need more tests. AFK 02:24 jordan4ibanez Holy shit, I uploaded a pic of the node gun and within 40 seconds got 4 upvotes lol 02:26 hmmmm mapgen v7 won't be the default for quite some time 02:27 hmmmm there's no reason to push people into using something brand new that they might not like 02:27 jordan4ibanez I can't wait for it, it looks amazing 02:27 jordan4ibanez Oh they will like it, it's incredible 02:27 hmmmm anyway, now that i have tonight and tomorrow free from work, i'll work on it a bit 02:28 hmmmm were you looking at it? 02:28 hmmmm or did you just say that based on the screenshots 02:28 hmmmm if you'd like, i can give you a couple biome definitions 02:28 jordan4ibanez Well seeing how naturally the terrain looks compared to the current one, yes 02:28 hmmmm but it's still kind of hard to play on without trees :3 02:28 hmmmm haha, floating pieces of land is not natural 02:29 jordan4ibanez No, the smoothness of it is 02:29 hmmmm oh yes 02:29 hmmmm that's what i was aiming for 02:29 hmmmm that's what i absolutely hated about the current mapgen 02:29 jordan4ibanez It looks like it was smoothly curved out over time rather than destroyed in earthquakes 02:29 hmmmm so it's smooth and interesting at the same time 02:30 jordan4ibanez use the lua function for spawning grass to spawn trees, easy fix 02:31 hmmmm lol 02:31 RealBadAngel talkin bout the trees, they are waitin for biomes :) 02:31 hmmmm my plans are something like that 02:31 jordan4ibanez that would create some weird patches of trees 02:32 hmmmm also, i think i'm going to backport DecorationDef to V6 too, since there's so much to gain 02:32 RealBadAngel trees can be spawned in the engine or the lua side 02:34 RealBadAngel tree definition is just a table with some variables set 02:35 RealBadAngel and can be used directly in the mapgen 02:39 * arsdragonfly 's 6-year-old little brother is playing minetest 02:42 arsdragonfly no suffocation under water? 02:47 jordan4ibanez We can make a mod for that 02:47 mauvebic dangit lol was playing with kitty, she was hiding in a box, then she pops out and sticks her paw in my eye lol 02:47 jordan4ibanez kaeza update your survival mod with gui segments 02:48 kaeza jordan4ibanez, dafuq :O 02:48 kaeza right away sir 02:48 kaeza Exio, hey! 02:48 jordan4ibanez Good dog! 02:48 mauvebic lol 02:49 kaeza so there's a GUI definable in Lua now 02:49 kaeza ? 02:49 Exio kaeza: yes 02:49 Exio the super-amazing luahud 02:49 kaeza :D 02:49 Exio now available for $10/hud-item 02:50 Exio CALL NOW! 02:50 kaeza 555-FUCKYOU 02:50 mauvebic you can even stream porn through the hud! 02:50 kaeza :P 02:50 Exio btw, night 02:50 Exio mauvebic: good idea 02:50 Psychotic What the cluck? 02:50 mauvebic kill two birds with one stone 02:50 kaeza nite o/ 02:50 Psychotic 1-555-ID-BUY-THAT 02:51 mauvebic all were missing is fuckable entities 02:51 kaeza ^ SOON 02:51 mauvebic im sure the sheep animal could be tweaked 02:51 kaeza rule 34 my dear mauvebic 02:51 kaeza :D 02:51 jojoa1997|Tablet Does anyone get this format on github http://i.imgur.com/0FpddhH.png 02:51 mauvebic not familiar with that meme lol 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet What is rule 34? 03:02 mauvebic http://youtu.be/1ZeciX-3wfs 03:07 Deivan I started a new game for test and receive this message... "FIXME: Meshbuffer ran out of indices" 03:17 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/gallery/Do2ZI2K 03:18 mauvebic https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7348185856/h4D6D8CEE/ 03:21 jordan4ibanez but mac os is complicated, well it's not as easy to use as kde or windows lol 03:22 mauvebic i wouldn't mind kde if they didn't put a k in front of every app name, makes alphabetic sorting/finding kinda irrelevant lol 03:23 VanessaE A few more homedecor updates just a few mins ago, if anyone gives two shits :) 03:24 mauvebic i found 3 on a public server :/ 03:25 kaeza hey hey VanessaE 03:25 VanessaE hey kaeza 03:26 kaeza what's new? 03:26 VanessaE mauvebic: on the other hand, it makes identifying apps that are likely to integrate well with KDE considerably easier 03:26 VanessaE kaeza: a lot actually :-) 03:26 khonkhortisan Cool, I'm in my scrollback 03:27 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commits/master ~~ https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/commits/master ~~ https://github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/commits/master 03:27 mauvebic https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7236771584/hEAE4B306/ 03:27 VanessaE EXTERMINATE 03:27 khonkhortisan what a striking resemblance 03:29 khonkhortisan I don't remember why I got rid of homedecor. I'll add it back. 03:30 VanessaE you were probably just trying to sort out an error somewhere 03:33 VanessaE kaeza: *poke* 03:33 VanessaE someone get the defibrillator. :-) 03:34 * kaeza just had a heart attack... 03:34 kaeza git nuked my "special" minetest repo :( 03:34 VanessaE damn! 03:34 mauvebic https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7203982592/h92905C5C/ 03:37 VanessaE mauvebic: tonight's low, ~2°C. Tomorrow's high, 10. TAKE BACK YOUR COLD WEATHER DAMN IT! :-) 03:37 mauvebic dont blame me, we had 19c lol 03:37 mauvebic turns out god likes my country more :p 03:37 VanessaE haha 03:38 mauvebic he's pretty old, healthcare costs and all :p 03:38 VanessaE HAH! 03:38 mauvebic i shouldn't say that down south, ill get lynched lol 03:39 mauvebic well, depends which state 03:41 mauvebic i hear vermont's alot like ontario 03:41 VanessaE I live in NC 03:41 mauvebic minus all the debt 03:41 mauvebic cuz ontario's sinking lol 03:42 mauvebic cat owners know what im talking about: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7170570752/hC27D46C2/ 03:43 arsdragonfly how to make a node be able to be dug instantly? 03:43 kaeza I see RBA finally got his patch to use LuaJit if found 03:44 VanessaE oh yes 03:45 kaeza can I point it somehow to the library? 03:45 kaeza I mean, I don't want to install Jit system-wide 03:45 khonkhortisan set the LUA_* cmake variables to LuaJit 03:46 kaeza also, any reason for ENABLE_(GETTEXT|FREETYPE) not ON by default? 03:47 arsdragonfly Is dig_immediate in groups obsolete? 03:48 khonkhortisan I never noticed those variables 03:48 arsdragonfly then how to make a node be dug instantly? 03:48 VanessaE freetype sucks 03:48 VanessaE gettext, no opinion there 03:49 arsdragonfly VanesesaE :why? 03:49 khonkhortisan 20:48:56: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "homedecor_fence_chainlink_gate_tb.png" 03:49 arsdragonfly VanessaE: why? 03:49 VanessaE arsdragonfly: you can't put a shadow behind the text, enabling it breaks the ability to use bitmapped fonts, and doing so also breaks the sign-in status screen. 03:51 arsdragonfly kaeza : 16:28thexyzCalinou: the easiest (and hackiest) way to build minetest with luajit is to build minetest and luajit separately, then replace liblua.a with libluajit.a, then `make` minetest again, it'll link with brand new luajit instead of lua 03:51 arsdragonfly from the IRC log 03:51 kaeza arsdragonfly, that's what I've been doing :) 03:52 VanessaE arsdragonfly: basically, using my old build script. 03:52 khonkhortisan Don't use the hacky way to build minetest. It's now supported by cmake. 03:54 VanessaE kaeza: sure miss having you (and others!) playing on my server. 03:58 kaeza VanessaE, aww sorry :( 03:59 khonkhortisan do until not(test 1 / 12 failed) end 03:59 kaeza LOL 04:01 khonkhortisan it would be funny if it wasn't true 04:21 * khonkhortisan is playing guess-the-number with formspecs 04:23 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add direction parameter to statbars in HUD API 527deb947c 2013-04-19T21:22:12-07:00 http://git.io/XmYQEA 04:24 jordan4ibanez I never understood why this was never implimented to mc or mt http://goo.gl/zTrxF 04:24 khonkhortisan Each button is at a position 0.7 from the previous one. Each button is 0.81 wide. Each horizontal gap between buttons is 0.07 wide. Each vertical gap between buttons is 0.15 wide. How is this possible? 04:25 khonkhortisan Wouldn't it be some sort of muddy or swirly glass in that case? 04:26 * khonkhortisan image searches volcanic glass 04:26 VanessaE http://blog.ponoko.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sand-bowl.jpg 04:27 VanessaE THIS is more like what would look like. 04:27 VanessaE (that's selective-sintered sand, a type of 3d-printer that uses sand as the feedstock) 04:27 jordan4ibanez But I can't make bowls in minetest D: 04:27 VanessaE I meant the color :) 04:27 jordan4ibanez But I can't make color in minetest D: 04:28 khonkhortisan Make a 1x1 image then stretch it 04:28 khonkhortisan lmgtfy https://www.google.com/search?q=volcanic+glass 04:29 jordan4ibanez Maybe instead of normal glass, it becomes obsidian glass, doi, what was I thinking 04:32 jordan4ibanez Okay there, now I counter balanced pilzadam's rarity of obsidian glass with sand turning into obsidian glass 04:40 lane_ im having trouble with minetest 04:42 VanessaE whattrouble? 04:43 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: better to turn it into obsidian, not glass, as there are no conditions under which it could ever become transparent glass 04:43 VanessaE (we really REALLY need alpha support) 04:43 jordan4ibanez Well I want what I want and what I want is illogical 04:43 VanessaE (as it would need to be cloudy, swirly like khonkhortisan said) 04:44 lane_ im creating a new world, and it is not showing u in the load worlds box. 04:44 VanessaE lane_: did you remember to actually extract and save Minetest to your hard disk? Don't run it from the ZIP file. 04:56 Lane_ it stil wont let me make a new world, i made sure it was extracted 04:57 jordan4ibanez Hmmm does this make sense? https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Black/wiki/Advanced-Lava-Cooling 05:00 Lane_ -_- 05:02 VanessaE but did you run it from the extracted folder, or did you run it from the zip? 05:02 VanessaE the only reason you would have trouble creating a world is if you have no write permission in whatever folder it's trying to create the world in 05:03 VanessaE (which is minetestfolder/worlds) 05:06 Lane_ is there supposed to be a folder caled worlds inside the file? 05:07 khonkhortisan I'll assume the dirt right between the lava and water is normal temperature 05:08 jordan4ibanez Good, I'd have to light you on fire if you didn't 05:08 khonkhortisan On a formspec, the positions aren't in the same units as the sizes, but I can't tell by how much. 05:15 khonkhortisan :( the buttons near the top have a two-pixel separation, the ones near the bottom have a three-pixel separation, even though it's the same dimensions 05:34 * ShadowNinja is apparently a bot 05:35 ShadowNinja "Sorry, but we think you are bot. You cant login on this forum." 05:35 ShadowNinja Can someone please remove or fix that module, I know I am not the first to have this issue 05:37 ShadowNinja Boat browser works... 05:43 [0gb_us] Does anyone know if there is a way to have Minetest flip a texture? 05:43 khonkhortisan Yes. 05:44 [0gb_us] Like, ^[ ? 05:44 khonkhortisan modname_image.png^[transformR90 05:44 [0gb_us] Thar rotates, not flips. 05:44 [0gb_us] *that 05:44 khonkhortisan But based on my attempts, it doesn't seem to work in a formspec, even with the proper escapes 05:44 [0gb_us] Like mirror image. 05:44 khonkhortisan uhh... 05:44 [0gb_us] I just need it for a node, not a formspec. 05:45 [0gb_us] Not possible then? 05:48 RealBadAngel possible 05:49 RealBadAngel ^[transformFX 05:49 RealBadAngel or FY 05:49 [0gb_us] Thanks! 05:49 RealBadAngel you can join it with rotations 05:49 RealBadAngel like ^[transformFXR90 05:50 [0gb_us] Awesome. I just need to make two sides of a stair symmetrical, so just the flip should be good. 05:52 jordan4ibanez what happened to the xgate mod? 05:52 [0gb_us] Not sure. 05:53 [0gb_us] !g minetest xgate 05:53 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: No results found for 'minetest xgate'. 05:53 [0gb_us] Really .... odd. 05:53 khonkhortisan Sorry, got distracted by the tv 05:53 [0gb_us] !g minetest xfence 05:53 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4011 05:54 [0gb_us] I don't see it. Sorry. 06:16 kaeza I think the 80-column rule should be enforced in lua_api.txt 06:17 khonkhortisan I see armchairs on a forum topic, and all of a sudden it's in my game! 06:18 kaeza there are some lines that extend almost to 120 chars! :( 06:18 kaeza khonkhortisan, homedecor? 06:18 khonkhortisan yeah 06:30 khonkhortisan Can I set a variable at the same time as passing it to a function? if minetest.registered_items[ name = unified_inventory.filtered_items_list[player_name][list_index] ] then 06:32 markveidemanis hello! 06:32 markveidemanis I want to make the resolution of my monitor bigger but it will only let me do 1024x768 06:33 arsdragonfly how to change the fog distance ? 06:33 khonkhortisan How exactly do you want to make it bigger? Placing multiple pixels in the same pixel? 06:34 khonkhortisan arsdragonfly, whatever Range select is set to in the Settings tab - I don't remember the default 06:35 VanessaE arsdragonfly: + and - 06:35 VanessaE markveidemanis: if your screen is 1024x768, it is not possible to go higher. 06:35 khonkhortisan (but it is) 06:35 markveidemanis MY screen is 1024x600... 06:35 khonkhortisan edge scroll, zoom, fancy stuff 06:35 VanessaE markveidemanis: flat panels have a native resolution they run at, everything is scaled to that resolution 06:36 markveidemanis The monitor says its x768 06:36 markveidemanis but it looks weird 06:36 khonkhortisan aw, now that I said edge scroll now I want to do it 06:36 markveidemanis the bad resolution 06:36 VanessaE that sounds like a video driver setting 06:37 [0gb_us] khonkhortisan: I'm fairly certain you can't set a variable that way. 06:38 kaeza khonkhortisan, nope 06:38 markveidemanis -snip-received a new Acer X193W monitor (max resolution 1440x900)-snip- 06:38 kaeza re: set variable while "reading" it 06:38 khonkhortisan two no's at the same time, I'm on a roll! 06:38 markveidemanis http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/s/tco+03+displays+x193w+resolution/ 06:38 [0gb_us] I think you can in PHP though. 06:39 markveidemanis il try that in minetest conf... 06:39 kaeza khonkhortisan, that's one feature I miss on Lua :( 06:39 kaeza also: foo[blah++] = x; 06:40 sfan5 kaeza: lua is open source.. 06:40 sfan5 you could add it 06:40 khonkhortisan I just miss string split, table copy, ^ yuck! 06:40 markveidemanis Can someone help with the resolution change? 06:40 khonkhortisan , and lfs 06:40 sfan5 (i also would be happy about someting++ and --something) 06:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: have you looked in the video driver settings 06:40 khonkhortisan Resolution is not something I mess with. I added one button to the taskbar to fix it when a program crashes 06:40 VanessaE markveidemanis: start by checking your computer/OS settings, you have to be running at your monitor's native resolution *outside* of Minetest first 06:41 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vaTVtcw/2013-04-20-073707_1024x768_scrot.png 06:41 kaeza sfan5, what are the odds that such a change would be added to lua master/trunk/whatchacallit? 06:41 khonkhortisan += too 06:41 VanessaE scrot? that's xfce 06:41 VanessaE I thought you ran windows? 06:41 markveidemanis is there a command that prints it all? 06:41 ShadowNinja sfan5: have you forgotten to deop or are you one for a reason? 06:41 kaeza (assuming I take the time to add that, and that it has not been suggested 82419589 times) 06:41 khonkhortisan markv runs off battery 06:41 markveidemanis yep 06:42 [0gb_us] I'm trying now to put chests in dungeons on mapgen. Does anyone have any bright ideas on how to effectively locate dungeon rooms? 06:42 khonkhortisan (offtopic) I have a cool solar-powered flashlight! 06:42 markveidemanis But why does that matter? 06:42 kaeza https://github.com/celeron55/dungeon 06:42 kaeza [0gb_us], ^ 06:42 khonkhortisan it doesn't 06:42 sfan5 kaeza: i'd say its pretty likely that it would get merged, since it wouldn't screw up anything 06:42 sfan5 ShadowNinja: yes 06:42 * ShadowBot wakes up 06:42 VanessaE markveidemanis: xrandr|grep axis 06:43 sfan5 fail 06:43 VanessaE DFP9 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm 06:43 ShadowNinja lol 06:43 * ShadowBot sleeps 06:43 khonkhortisan minetestbot only sticks around operators? 06:43 sfan5 i thought minetestbot was not there 06:43 mauvebic xrandr|grep allied 06:43 sfan5 khonkhortisan: no 06:43 markveidemanis i think xrandr is for desktops stuff 06:43 sfan5 i accidently ^C'd it 06:43 VanessaE that'll usually return your screen resolution. 06:43 khonkhortisan heh 06:43 markveidemanis command/screen/resolution? 06:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: xrandr|grep axis 06:44 sfan5 Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 <<-- wtf?! 06:44 VanessaE paste one of the resultant lines. 06:44 khonkhortisan You may have to define some new resolutions and refresh rates 06:44 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7670674 06:44 [0gb_us] kaeza: That game builds both the dungeons and the chests in Lua, so is able to sync them. I'm to add chests in Lua to the C++ generated dungeons. 06:44 markveidemanis oh the whole command... 06:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: ok, 1024x768. you're at your native resolution already. 06:45 khonkhortisan lol I get that too Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1440 x 900, maximum 16384 x 16384 06:45 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7670676 06:45 VanessaE LVDS1 and VGA1? why do you have two screens connected? 06:45 kaeza [0gb_us], ah! 06:45 markveidemanis I want to: expand my desktop space or ; make the resolution bigger 06:46 kaeza no idea then 06:46 markveidemanis I have a netbook, its not optional lol 06:46 VanessaE markveidemanis: you're kinda screwed really. you have to run them like that. 06:46 [0gb_us] Thanks anyway. Perhaps I'll just skip that idea. 06:46 VanessaE LVDS1 is your netbook's screen 06:46 VanessaE VGA1 is your external monitor. 06:47 * sfan5 has a screen with lvds lying around, but can't plug it into anything... 06:47 VanessaE you could try stacking them vertically in your config, at least then you'd have no dead zone 06:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: there are really only three ways to deal with this issue: 1. stack the monitors in a configuration that eliminates dead zones, e.g. side by side if the vertical rez is equal, or one above the other if the horizontal is equal (that's you). 2. scale one of the screens up or down to match the other screen's resolution - but this is blurry. 3. Just deal with having a dead zone. 06:49 kaeza WHOA! 06:49 markveidemanis 3. 06:49 markveidemanis on the small screen i can only see part 06:50 markveidemanis the large screen is on the table and the netbook is on the slidy out thingy 06:50 markveidemanis i could not find a keyboard so im using the builtin one... 06:50 VanessaE markveidemanis: that's the dead zone I mentioned. 06:50 markveidemanis Can you help with the setup? 06:50 khonkhortisan Could not find keyboard. Press any key. 06:51 markveidemanis lol 06:51 VanessaE the smaller screen is showing you window into the larger one. 06:51 markveidemanis the large screen is on the table and the netbook is on the slidy out thingy 06:51 VanessaE the two are still displaying the same content? 06:51 mauvebic wheres the any key? 06:51 [0gb_us] Maybe I'll put the chests elsewhere, and make them more rare. 06:51 markveidemanis Th power key 06:51 markveidemanis I mean re-place 06:51 markveidemanis with the mouse beside it 06:51 jordan4ibanez realbadangel can I use the technic mining drill picture? 06:51 [0gb_us] As rare as the cats in default, and have them contain REALLY good stuff. 06:51 jordan4ibanez err I mean png 06:51 markveidemanis It cuts like 3 pixels off the left side 06:52 RealBadAngel for what? 06:52 jordan4ibanez My delux snooper drill 06:52 VanessaE markveidemanis: sorry, I don't know how to help :-/ 06:52 sfan5 oh.. hi jordan4ibanez 06:52 markveidemanis ok :( 06:52 jordan4ibanez Hello sfan5 06:52 RealBadAngel if you could make head just different colour in case user will want them all together.. 06:52 markveidemanis Arrrrggghh 06:53 jordan4ibanez Okay 06:53 markveidemanis Screen looks soo small now i truned big one off 06:53 VanessaE markveidemanis: time to head to google 06:53 RealBadAngel same way as i made them red green blue 06:53 RealBadAngel just pick another colour 06:54 markveidemanis I tried that while you were explaining :) 06:54 VanessaE what video device? 06:54 kaeza sfan5, offtopic: have any experience with Tkinter (python)? 06:55 kaeza been wasting my time making a VS-like formspec designer :P 06:55 sfan5 kaeza: no 06:55 sfan5 :D 06:56 sfan5 what about PyQt? 06:56 kaeza I don't want to depend on huge libs 06:56 kaeza and Tk just gets the job done 06:57 kaeza but IDK how to align text objects ina canvas widget 06:58 kaeza lol 06:58 kaeza got it 06:58 sfan5 align text.... in a canvas... 06:58 sfan5 wut? 06:58 kaeza create_text(anchor=LEFT, ...) 06:59 * arsdragonfly made the map mod work with the cpp version of minetestmapper 07:00 arsdragonfly the map image is too small though :-( 07:00 VanessaE markveidemanis: what is your video card? 07:00 arsdragonfly I wanna make every map has it's own texture 07:00 arsdragonfly but idk where to start from 07:05 jordan4ibanez How does this texture look? http://i.imgur.com/ueH1zpT.png 07:08 jordan4ibanez I think I'm going to make an anvil so you can fix the power tools, but instead of having to cook it or use power or whatever, I'll make a hammer, and when you right click the anvil, it takes the tool out of your hand and adds an entity above the anvil, and when you punch the anvil with the hammer it adds some life back into the tool 07:08 jordan4ibanez and takes some life out of the hammer 07:13 markveidemanis video card? 07:13 VanessaE yeah you know the device inside your computer that produces the images you see on your screen? :) 07:14 markveidemanis how do i find that out| 07:14 VanessaE do lspci and look for a mention of a video or graphics adapter 07:14 VanessaE "VGA compatible controller" 07:14 VanessaE or similar 07:16 arsdragonfly How do I call a callback function when an item is crafted? 07:16 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7670764 07:17 VanessaE "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" 07:17 VanessaE eek. 07:18 VanessaE unless this works: http://superuser.com/questions/37079/how-to-get-working-dual-head-on-intel-gm965-gl960-under-linux 07:18 VanessaE then you're kinda SOL :-) 07:19 VanessaE (answer #2) 07:20 jordan4ibanez goodnight 07:40 sfan5 offtopic: ([a-z][a-z0-9]*)[ \t]*\(((([a-z][a-z0-9]*)|([0-9]+\.[0-9]*)|([0-9]+)|(".*?")[ \t]*((\+|-|\*|/)[ \t]*([a-z][a-z0-9]*)|([0-9]+\.[0-9]*)|([0-9]+)|(".*?"))*)|(([a-z][a-z0-9]*)|([0-9]+\.[0-9]*)|([0-9]+)|(".*?")[ \t]*(==|!=|<|>|<=|>=)[ \t]*([a-z][a-z0-9]*)|([0-9]+\.[0-9]*)|([0-9]+)|(".*?")),?)\) 07:40 arsdragonfly How to alter a node's texture when it's placed down? 07:40 arsdragonfly omg holy regex 07:40 VanessaE you have to replace the node with a new one. 07:40 sfan5 290 digits 07:40 VanessaE sfan5: regexception! 07:40 arsdragonfly VanessaE :thanks i'll try 07:41 sfan5 VanessaE: it looks so harmless in the header file ;) #define TR_FCALL TR_IDENT TR_OWHT "\\((" TR_EXPR ",?)\\)" 07:43 VanessaE heh 07:56 markveidemanis xrandr --output VGA1 -s 1440x900 ?? 08:01 kaeza sfan5, dafuq is that 08:08 ImQ009 sfan5, tl;dr, mind explaining that regex? :P: 08:09 markveidemanis Can someone suggest me a USB keyboard on Ebay? 08:13 arsdragonfly Is the ObjectRef of the player just "player"? 08:17 sfan5 ImQ009: http://regexpal.com/?flags=g®ex=(%5Ba-z%5D%5Ba-z0-9%5D*)%5B%20%5Ct%5D*%5C((((%5Ba-z%5D%5Ba-z0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B%5C.%5B0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B)%7C(%22.*%3F%22)%5B%20%5Ct%5D*((%5C%2B%7C-%7C%5C*%7C%2F)%5B%20%5Ct%5D*(%5Ba-z%5D%5Ba-z0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B%5C.%5B0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B)%7C(%22.*%3F%22))*)%7C((%5Ba-z%5D%5Ba-z0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B%5C.%5B0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B)%7C(%22.*%3F%22)%5B%20%5Ct%5D*(%3D%3D%7C!%3D%7C%3C%7C%3E%7C%3C%3D%7 08:17 sfan5 C%3E%3D)%5B%20%5Ct%5D*(%5Ba-z%5D%5Ba-z0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B%5C.%5B0-9%5D*)%7C(%5B0-9%5D%2B)%7C(%22.*%3F%22))%2C%3F%5B%20%5Ct%5D*)*%5C)&input=functioncall(%22abc%22%20%3E%20%22abd%22%2C%2042%2C%2013.37%2C%20variable) 08:17 sfan5 *sigh* 08:28 arsdragonfly on_construct = function(pos) 08:28 arsdragonfly minetest.item_place(ItemStack('map:map'), player, pos) 08:28 arsdragonfly end 08:29 arsdragonfly I tried to replace a node itself with another node when it's placed down 08:29 arsdragonfly but it didn't work 08:31 arsdragonfly what's wrong with it? 08:43 arsdragonfly nvm I figured that out 08:44 kaeza the arg to item_place should be jusrt the item name; not an ItemStack 08:44 kaeza -r 08:45 kaeza nvm... I was thinking about something else 09:02 VanessaE morning PA 09:06 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 09:13 kaeza hey Adam 09:15 [0gb_us] Hey, PilzAdam. 09:17 * ShadowBot wakes up 09:19 * ShadowBot sleeps 09:21 * arsdragonfly finds that minetest crashes when trying to print a nil value instead of printing nil 09:21 [0gb_us] That's a cool feature, ShadowNinja! I take it you got it figured out then. 09:21 [0gb_us] printdump(nil)) 09:22 PilzAdam *print(dump(nil)) 09:46 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85261#p85261 09:46 Calinou lol @ username 09:46 arsdragonfly can i register a node when the server is running? 09:46 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, nope 09:47 arsdragonfly all right then 09:48 arsdragonfly I went on the wrong way :-( 09:48 rotor112 hi 09:48 rotor112 does this work? if minetest.env:get_node({x=pos.x-1, y=pos.y, z=pos.z}).groups == snappy then return false end 09:49 PilzAdam nope 09:49 PilzAdam minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.env:get_node(pos).name].groups 09:50 arsdragonfly Is it possible for 1 node to have different textures? 09:50 arsdragonfly or change it's texture when running? 09:51 PilzAdam only with the build in animation 09:51 rotor112 if minetest.env:get_node({x=pos.x-1, y=pos.y, z=pos.z}).name == "group:snappy" then return false end 09:51 rotor112 and this? 09:51 PilzAdam nope 09:52 arsdragonfly then it's hard as hell to write a map mod:-( 09:52 rotor112 why not? 09:53 rotor112 you used it at your clean mod: nodenames = {"group:old"}, 09:54 rotor112 but there it isn't a string 09:54 rotor112 and this works if minetest.env:get_node(pos).param2 == 0 09:55 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, yes, it is 09:55 rotor112 and does this work? if minetest.env:get_node({x=pos.x-1, y=pos.y, z=pos.z}).groups.snappy == 3 then return false end 09:55 PilzAdam rotor112, "group:groupname" is not supported everywhere, read lua-api.txt 09:56 rotor112 ok 09:56 PilzAdam I already said you how to do it properly 09:56 rotor112 this isn't group:name 09:56 PilzAdam minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.env:get_node(pos).name].groups 09:56 arsdragonfly how to set built in animation then? 09:56 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, see torch, water or lava in common/default 09:58 rotor112 I don't like these simple animations 09:59 rotor112 so this wouldn't work env:find_node_near({x=x,y=ground_y,z=z}, 2+math.random(3), "group:crumbly") 09:59 rotor112 hi 10:00 maxdron hi. Who maintains wiki.minetest.com? 10:00 PilzAdam maxdron, Calinou has an adming account IIRC 10:00 PilzAdam rotor112, that does work 10:00 rotor112 good 10:00 maxdron thks 10:01 rotor112 minetest.org works again 10:02 rotor112 !up minetest.org 10:02 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 is up (0.243ms) 10:06 rotor112 I think this would lag too much minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.env:get_node(pos).name].groups 10:06 PilzAdam why would that lag? 10:07 rotor112 I tried sth like this at a sort of timber mod 10:09 rotor112 !c c 10:09 MinetestBot 299 792 458 m / s 10:15 arsdragonfly PilzAdam: Are there any more features in animation exept the listed? 10:15 PilzAdam nope 10:15 arsdragonfly like setting the start X/Y 10:15 arsdragonfly oh 10:20 rotor112 you coult try ^transform 10:20 Calinou maxdron: ask your question? :P 10:21 rotor112 What's this? http://www.pilz.com/ 10:21 arsdragonfly image[X,Y;W,H;texture_name] 10:21 arsdragonfly what are the variables? 10:22 arsdragonfly the starting/ending coordinates? 10:22 rotor112 where did you find this? 10:22 maxdron calinou: can you enable namespaces in wiki? 10:23 rotor112 !g image[X,Y;W,H;texture_name] 10:23 MinetestBot rotor112: http://dev.minetest.net/formspec 10:23 arsdragonfly on the wiki page of formspec 10:23 arsdragonfly wow 10:23 arsdragonfly MinetestBot : you are awesome 10:23 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: thank google 10:24 rotor112 !b64d dGhhbmtz 10:24 MinetestBot thanks 10:30 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 10:30 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 10:30 rotor112 !up minetest.org 10:31 rotor112 !up minetest.org 30000 10:31 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 10:31 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 10:31 rotor112 !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 10:31 arsdragonfly w8 a moment 10:31 rotor112 ok 10:33 rotor112 the bot doesn't like me 10:34 rotor110 !b64d TWluZXRlc3QgaXMgZ3JlYXQh 10:34 MinetestBot Minetest is great! 10:35 Calinou !b64d Calinou 10:35 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 10:35 Calinou huh 10:35 rotor110 you need !b64e 10:36 rotor110 !b64d rotor112 10:36 MinetestBot ®‹h¯]v 10:36 rotor110 !b64d rotor111 10:36 MinetestBot ®‹h¯]u 10:36 rotor110 !b64d rotor110 10:36 MinetestBot ®‹h¯]t 10:37 rotor110 !b64d calinou 10:37 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 10:37 rotor110 !b64e Calinou 10:37 MinetestBot Q2FsaW5vdQ== 10:38 rotor110 !b64d Pilz 10:38 MinetestBot >)s 10:40 rotor110 !b64d OldCoder 10:40 MinetestBot :WB¡×« 10:40 sfan5 !ignore rotor110 10:40 MinetestBot sfan5: 'rotor110' added to ignore list. 10:41 sfan5 i was just thinking about regular expressions for ignoring 10:41 PilzAdam /save and /load finished for worldedit++ 10:44 kaeza anyone knows how to use the new Lua HUD features? 10:44 sfan5 !wik Lua API 10:44 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Lua_API 10:44 kaeza is it documented? 10:45 kaeza sfan5, "There is currently no text in this page." 10:45 PilzAdam kaeza, sure, in lua-api.txt 10:45 sfan5 kaeza: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1846 10:45 kaeza PilzAdam, the documentation is very scarce 10:46 kaeza I grabbed code from BlockMen's "hunger" mod, but it's not adding the HUD 10:47 kaeza here's the relevant code: http://pastebin.com/FiHMvnbs 10:51 kaeza dafuq 10:52 kaeza it works ok if I call it from minetest.after() 11:03 PilzAdam sfan5, is there a size limit for //save for current worldedit? 11:04 PilzAdam I get "error:/home/adam/Minetest/minetest/bin/../builtin/serialize.lua:169: [string "return { { ["meta"] = { ["fields"] = { }, ["..."]:1: main function has more than 65536 constants" when trying to load huge .we files 11:05 kaeza HAH! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_656266537.jpg 11:06 kaeza dafuq.. dropbox changed URLs again? O.o 11:06 PilzAdam sfan5, seems like worldedit will crash too, Ill try it 11:07 PilzAdam yes, worldedit crashes with the same file too 11:08 PilzAdam so there is a limit for /save and /load 11:10 PilzAdam (although only /load will crash then) 11:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: that not worldedit's fault, its the serialization format that causes this 11:20 PilzAdam yes, I know 11:21 PilzAdam its also not worldedit++'s fault ;-) 11:53 PilzAdam /copy and /move added to Worldedit++ 11:53 PilzAdam ^ VanessaE 11:57 cosarara97 what's the path for world-specific mods? 11:57 PilzAdam /worldmods/ 11:58 cosarara97 thanks, I'll put it on the wiki 12:30 VanessaE off to bed now. PilzAdam, I'll check out that update when I get back up. 12:30 VanessaE night all. 12:48 iqualfragile its 1430 here, thats funny 13:05 PilzAdam spam? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85292#p85292 13:06 [0gb_us] I don't know if it's spam, but it's a lie. 13:06 [0gb_us] dot.tk doesn't do hosting, but the topic title says hosting. 13:07 [0gb_us] dot.tk does "free" domain names and the DNS to go with them. 13:08 [0gb_us] I say "free" because you don't actually own the name, and there are sevral restrictions on its use, but it really is payment-free. 13:12 bas080 May i request topic move. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5674 13:31 Kacey morning 14:05 markveidemanis Hello 14:05 cosarara97 hello 14:05 markveidemanis I need help with mu screen again 14:05 cosarara97 mu? 14:05 markveidemanis I want to assign a desktop space to a monitor 14:05 markveidemanis 1 being the default one 14:28 Ristovski minetest uses a shitton of bandwidth seems like 14:31 [0gb_us] It wouldn't' surprise me. 14:32 * Zeg9 is back, hi. 14:32 arsdragonfly How much bandwidth does one player take up? 14:33 kaeza hello Zeg9 14:36 BackupCoder Kaeza you here? 14:37 Traxie21 ping kaeza 14:37 kaeza BackupCoder, hey 14:37 kaeza hey Traxie21 14:37 kaeza I got pinged twice in a row 14:37 Traxie21|Kindle hai 14:37 * kaeza feels important 14:38 Traxie21|Kindle I was just assisting OC 14:38 BackupCoder Hi 14:38 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_656266537.jpg :3 14:39 Traxie21|Kindle sorry kaeza, I cant open links from IRC on a kindle 14:39 kaeza added HUD support to survival_modpack! :D 14:39 Traxie21|Kindle Nice! 14:39 kaeza oh, sorry :( 14:40 Traxie21|Kindle sheet, now I'm behind, HUD for potionspack is still WIP 14:40 kaeza need any help with that? 14:40 Traxie21|Kindle just for a decent timer 14:41 kaeza ah still having problems with that? 14:41 Traxie21|Kindle I keep getting Nil errors that dont tell me where the NIL is.. 14:41 Traxie21|Kindle kinda, I cant work on it till monday. 14:42 kaeza lemme see what I can do. is the mod in github? 14:42 Traxie21|Kindle yeah 14:42 kaeza k 14:43 Traxie21|Kindle actually, the timer code I have is commented out 14:43 Traxie21|Kindle http://github.com/Traxie21/potions 14:44 cosarara97 Is there any magic configuration for servers? I just revived mine, but there's a lot of block lag (even though I'm connecting from localhost) 14:44 Traxie21|Kindle btw, your IRC mod is awesome 14:45 Traxie21|Kindle not reallt cosara, try block_transfer_distance and things like that 14:45 Traxie21|Kindle I just mess around until I like it 14:45 kaeza thanks :P 14:46 Traxie21|Kindle What mods are you running? 14:47 Traxie21|Kindle kaeza, they should allow tables of players to be added to chat_send_player to eliminate iterating 14:47 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, so I only need "potions"? or do I need some other mod? 14:47 hmmmm by the way, i just want to point out that it's very easy to make elements of the HUD blink, for example if health gets too low you can have the hearts blink by changing the texture name of that statbar to "" or something and back on an interval 14:47 cosarara97 carts/ inventory_plus/ minetest-skins/ moretrees/ protectorplus/ 14:47 cosarara97 farming/ minetest-mod-mesecons/ mobs/ plantlife/ 14:47 kaeza hmmmm, silly question: is the default health bar now implemented as a HUD element? 14:47 hmmmm it's not 14:48 Traxie21|Kindle kaeza, you need potions and potionspack if you dont want to register your own potions 14:48 hmmmm that's going to be very tough to do because of server lag 14:48 Traxie21|Kindle crosshair should be a HUD element 14:48 kaeza hmmmm, not really 14:48 hmmmm 'not really' 14:49 kaeza ...nvm... it is 14:49 hmmmm uh, yes really. 14:49 hmmmm i do know what i'm talking about 14:49 Traxie21|Kindle hmmm, health bar should be fine, its the inventory bar that will be a problem. 14:49 Traxie21|Kindle owait, then the HP system 14:49 Traxie21|Kindle hmm.... 14:50 kaeza yeah, damage is "predicted"/whatever in the client 14:50 kaeza but the client must send the "damage" to the server, and it responds back by setting the item value 14:51 kaeza so... lag IS a problem 14:51 Traxie21|Kindle yea 14:51 Traxie21|Kindle anyhow, i gtg, cyas! 14:51 Traxie21|Kindle if you fix potions, pull req please! 14:51 kaeza cya I'll poke around with your mod and see what I can do 14:58 arsdragonfly hmmmm,how to change the texture of something? 15:00 markveidemanis Shout what you want at the top of a large building 15:00 thexyz what's that uplink.io server? 15:21 bernatcanal hey 15:22 Kacey hi Jeija 15:23 Jeija Hi 15:23 Kacey i found a strange bug 15:24 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 15:24 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.315ms) 15:27 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Update selection boxes to make building easier. 10bacdd7f4 2013-04-20T08:25:12-07:00 http://git.io/Fko47A 15:31 [0gb_us] Kacey: Was it a mantis? 15:32 Kacey lol no it was a mesecons bug with luacontrollers but manti are interesting little devils to 15:36 RealBadAngel hi all 15:36 [0gb_us] Hey, RealBadAngel. 15:36 RealBadAngel just made simple and nice (imho) mod that redefines default glass 15:37 [0gb_us] Defines it as what? 15:37 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/glass.zip 15:37 RealBadAngel just try it 15:37 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/v9T5est.png 15:38 [0gb_us] Nodebox glass? Okay .... 15:39 Kacey I've told them a hundred times--don't touch the whatchamacallit because it will make the doohickey not work with the thingamabob! 15:39 sfan5 !g CIRC 15:39 MinetestBot sfan5: https://www.getcirc.com/ 15:39 [0gb_us] Kacey, what? 15:40 Kacey I've told them a hundred times--don't touch the whatchamacallit because it will make the doohickey not work with the thingamabob! 15:40 [0gb_us] Yes, I heard you the first time. That was a "What are you going on about?" what. 15:40 [0gb_us] I don't know what you mean. 15:41 ImQ009 MinetestBot, That site missess one "minor" thing 15:41 ImQ009 A VERY minor thing 15:41 ImQ009 What is Circ? :P 15:41 Kacey lol people mess up my stuff that is barely held together by one thing 15:41 ImQ009 WTF 15:41 ImQ009 Did I just answer to a bot? 15:42 [0gb_us] I see. A Github project? 15:42 ImQ009 I should've read the nick first :P sfan5 ^ 15:42 MinetestBot ImQ009: i'm not the creator of getcirc.com ;) 15:42 Kacey no just things i build irl 15:42 [0gb_us] Ah. 15:42 RealBadAngel how do you like such glass? 15:42 ImQ009 Jeez. 15:43 ImQ009 I still don't belive I actually did that :P 15:43 [0gb_us] WHat is the is the benefit of turning glass into node boxes? 15:43 RealBadAngel to see glass node frames 15:43 [0gb_us] Hmm. 15:43 RealBadAngel before they were invisible 15:44 sfan5 RealBadAngel: looks really nice 15:44 [0gb_us] I think I like seeing the back side of the glass, but not the sides that touch other glass. If you know what I'm trying to say. 15:44 RealBadAngel i know 15:44 kaeza small question: can I set the color of a "text" HUD item? 15:44 Kacey i want a connected texture api 15:44 RealBadAngel its possible of course to make glass nodes join with each other 15:45 hmmmm kaeza, yes.. it clearly says so in the documentation 15:46 RealBadAngel in fact i think i will write glass joins right now 15:47 kaeza hmm 15:47 RealBadAngel im using similar code for many things already 15:48 PilzAdam hands: http://ompldr.org/vaTV0dA/Unbenannt.png 15:49 * sfan5 sees german 15:49 sfan5 and wtf?! hands?? 15:50 khonkhortisan I finally found a windowless door in homedecor 15:51 kaeza how is this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_673413811.jpg 15:52 PilzAdam kaeza, you know that this doesnt look good? 15:52 kaeza yeah :( 15:52 khonkhortisan that has a double edge 15:52 * PilzAdam never saw a good looking HUD with the new HUD API 15:53 PilzAdam maybe the HUD API sucks, need to try it sometime 15:53 khonkhortisan If mods can make absolutely-positioned hud stuff, mods will overlap what they are drawing. Someone will have to make another mod that stacks all the hud stuff, which other mods then depend on 15:53 kaeza I could use some kind of "anchor" instead of the silly "position" 15:54 kaeza if the HUD looks good in 1024p, it looks crammed on 800p 15:54 kaeza and if it looks good on 800p, it looks too spaced in 1024p 15:55 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, what do you think about this glass modification? 15:55 PilzAdam what? 15:56 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/v9T5est.png http://realbadangel.pl/glass.zip 15:57 PilzAdam the backface of glass is not drawn to make it as transparently as possible 15:57 [0gb_us] Those poor people. What monster cut off their hands and threw them in PilzAdam's lake? 15:57 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, that is not a feature, its a bug rather 15:57 PilzAdam [0gb_us], /fixlight arround a huge block of flying gravel 15:58 khonkhortisan that looks like clean glass 15:58 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, there is a reason why it is like it is 15:58 RealBadAngel yeah, bug :) 15:58 [0gb_us] What plugin adds /fixlight? 15:58 kaeza *mod 15:59 PilzAdam [0gb_us], its a command of Worldedit++ that digs air in an area to fix shadows 15:59 [0gb_us] The mod plugin? Never heard of it. 15:59 [0gb_us] Okay, cool. 15:59 PilzAdam and orginal worldedit has that too 16:00 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, but seriously im suprised you dont like minecraft looking glass ;) 16:00 kaeza RealBadAngel, the removed backfaces makes the glass look like big windows and such. I like them as they are now. 16:00 RealBadAngel wait till you will see glass nodes joining 16:01 RealBadAngel in minecraft they do that with joined textures 16:01 RealBadAngel i will do it different way 16:01 [0gb_us] I hope I'm here when you finish that. I' hate to miss it because I'm asleep, or something. 16:02 [0gb_us] *i'd 16:02 [0gb_us] *I'd 16:02 RealBadAngel gonna take an hour or two i think 16:03 * [0gb_us] tries to stay awake that much longer 16:03 Calinou minecraft textures are not joined as of 1.5 16:03 Calinou and if you're talking about connected textures, it's a mod, optifine implements that :P 16:03 Calinou see ctm.png 16:04 RealBadAngel propably yes, i liked that feature 16:04 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, hows minetest.conf GUI going? 16:04 RealBadAngel it allowed to make huge glass surfaces 16:05 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, waits for other things to be finished first. in general im adding now drawtype = mesh 16:05 RealBadAngel just took a little break to let mind rest 16:05 RealBadAngel played a bit and changed the glass meanwhile 16:07 RealBadAngel i think i will make glass joinin directly in the engine 16:07 RealBadAngel similar way fences are workin 16:08 Calinou we need a way to have raillike nodeboxes (nodeboxes that are definited client-side, like rails) 16:08 Calinou would allow for customizable fences with better collision and selection 16:08 Calinou without definiting their direction server-side 16:08 Calinou (less hacky, prediction, less server load) 16:08 OldCoder NEWS: I am shutting down my worlds for backups 16:08 RealBadAngel no point in adding dozens of new nodes when i can modify nodeboxes on the fly in the engine 16:09 [0gb_us] OldCoder: Noted. 16:09 Calinou that's what I'm talking about 16:09 Calinou ability to define several nodeboxes client side, just like textures with raillike drawtype 16:09 [0gb_us] How long does it take to back up so many worlds, OldCoder? 16:10 OldCoder Several minutes to stop the worlds to begin with [0gb_us] 16:10 OldCoder Then a while to make a ZIP 16:10 OldCoder Then I must start the worlds again 16:10 OldCoder Might be 15 to 45 minutes total 16:12 RealBadAngel Calinou, you just need to define rules on which nodeboxes shall be added to form connections 16:12 celeron55 < RealBadAngel> http://i.imgur.com/v9T5est.png http://realbadangel.pl/glass.zip 16:12 celeron55 that's simply wrong 16:13 celeron55 it works currently as designed 16:13 celeron55 if you want that, use the allfaces drawtype or whatever it is 16:13 RealBadAngel none of aviable drawtypes allows that 16:13 RealBadAngel only nodeboxes 16:15 RealBadAngel besides i want the frames to join to form glass surfaces 16:17 Kacey note to self ... for once in your life ... learn from your mistakes ... next time you feel a sneeze coming on ... PUT THE COFFEE DOWN ... 16:18 babyface1031 lol 16:18 Kacey There's nothing like getting out of bed to a cup of coffee and going outside to get a breath of air when you suddenly realize you forgot to put your pants on. 16:19 babyface1031 lol you are making my day Kacey 16:19 Kacey lol i always do 16:20 Kacey me + coffee + status shuffle = awesome 16:24 Kacey hi rarkenin 16:27 jordan4ibanez We should liven up the minetest reddit 16:28 Kacey Initializing all systems... Loading... Loading... Checking caffeine intake... Fatal error 32: caffeine levels too low! Main processor shutting down... 16:34 jordan4ibanez lol! 16:35 jordan4ibanez I love this snooper drill I came up with, you can use it as an OP pickaxe, or you can right click, and it will remove all stone in a radius of 2, so you can snoop for ores 16:35 Kacey jordan4ibanez, do you have a minetest black server? 16:36 jordan4ibanez I don't like to run servers anymore, I'm not equiped to do so 16:36 Kacey aah 16:36 Kacey ok 16:36 Kacey could you add xytest to MTB? 16:37 jordan4ibanez What is it? 16:38 Kacey right now: a mod that adds crafting recipes for dyes and a few blocks and 2 ores. Later: multiblock tanks and awesome things 16:40 jordan4ibanez No thanks dude 16:40 Kacey creative mode doesn't work 16:42 Kacey i need a craft guide but idk the recipe for mtb 16:43 BlockMen hi 16:43 jordan4ibanez Why not look at the wiki kacey? 16:43 jordan4ibanez Hi BlockMen 16:43 Kacey ooh lol 16:43 BlockMen PilzAdam, how do i override item_eat() ? it does not work... 16:44 BlockMen hi jordan4ibanez 16:46 PilzAdam BlockMen, yes, that probably wont work 16:47 BlockMen hmm...ic. nice idea anyway... 16:47 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: yes, we should 16:48 jordan4ibanez sfan5: :D I'm trying to make imgur love minetest with my mods but r/minecraft has a strangle hold D: 16:48 sfan5 /r/minecraft ? 16:50 jordan4ibanez Yes 16:50 kaeza ugh, when using huddef.direction = 1, it draws the wrong half of the texture if odd number >.< 16:51 Kacey huh cgmr isnt working on mtb 16:52 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_676980698.jpg 16:53 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't have very many doors that lock from one side 17:01 jordan4ibanez kaeza: o/ 17:01 kaeza \o 17:01 kaeza still in the works tho' 17:02 kaeza this Lua HUD thing is nowhere near what would be called in the least "flexible", but oh well, *it's something* 17:03 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/gallery/lgwvJ/new 17:04 kaeza :D 17:04 kaeza that will be awesome to find those pesky diamonds :D 17:05 kaeza inb4 spam 17:05 khonkhortisan I didn't like the drill until I saw the pictures 17:05 markveidemanis Hi 17:05 celeron55 the lua HUD is terrible, but it's a start :P 17:05 khonkhortisan it's a regular high-powered mining tool, that makes you go through the effort of separately digging ores 17:05 kaeza indeed 17:06 markveidemanis khonkhortisan 17:06 markveidemanis 86.158.246.201 17:06 khonkhortisan yes? 17:06 khonkhortisan k 17:06 celeron55 there are many kinds of positioning situations that it can't handle properly 17:06 markveidemanis showing off my bigger screen :_) 17:06 celeron55 but they can be added 17:06 celeron55 (once people even know what is actually needed) 17:07 kaeza I don't expect it to add a GUI-Toolkit-like packing algorithm, but at least some kind of anchor would be nice 17:08 kaeza like "this thing goes 0.1 units to the left of this other item" 17:08 kaeza or perhaps absolute pixel offsets 17:09 celeron55 being able to position an element based on it's corners, center and any corner-center combination on different axes would be very useful, and additionally some kind of named anchors (even some kind of named auto-incrementing anchors) 17:10 celeron55 (like one at the top left of the inventory hotbar, where one can place a statbar positioned by it's -X+Y corner, and if an another one is placed, it'd be put on top of the other one 8) 17:10 celeron55 +) 17:11 celeron55 not very easy to do but it's still kind of easy to see what is needed for flexible-enough positioning 17:11 markveidemanis Minetest crashes when i go fullscreen 17:12 celeron55 and actually, not very hard either; i hope somebody finds the time to implement such 17:16 khonkhortisan VanessaE, you shouldn't need separate left and right-handed versions of the same door 17:19 Jordach john_minetest, hey 17:21 markveidemanis khonkhortisan: UP 17:21 markveidemanis i crashed then screwed up the screen so i could not see lol 17:22 Calinou hearts are still ridicously big when using large heart textures :( 17:22 Calinou in 256× MCE my 10 hearts are bigger than hotbar 17:22 Calinou in 1920×1080 17:23 khonkhortisan I just had some snow fall into shallow water, now the water is flowing around it. 17:27 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Any comments? https://github.com/minetest/common/pull/30 17:28 sfan5 :O http://c55.me/random/2013-04/mock1.png 17:28 jordan4ibanez \o/ 17:30 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, its good 17:38 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Can you please pull it then? 17:38 PilzAdam later 17:40 jordan4ibanez for the snooper shovel, should it try to see if there is a node within the crumbly group next to your shovel in the inventory, and only drop dug nodes that are that item? 17:49 kaeza http://m1.paperblog.com/i/66/665075/humor-internet-explorer-10-L-_HNAjZ.jpeg 17:50 Traxie21|Kindle lol 17:58 markveidemanis khonkhortisan, you can paint now 17:59 kaeza http://www.somethingofthatilk.com/comics/502.png 18:17 Jordach sfan5, it looks good 18:17 sfan5 Jordach: what? 18:17 Jordach the mock1.png 18:19 sfan5 that's made by celeron55 18:19 sfan5 *that was 18:40 jordan4ibanez At first I thought I found an epic mountain http://i.imgur.com/XdWo7tE.png But then the terrain generator smacked me in the face http://i.imgur.com/u2CYBPN.jpg 18:55 hmmmm hardly an epic mountain :/ 18:55 hmmmm why not play around with the terrain scale if you want epic mountains 18:55 kaeza [15:54:07] I think Lua should cutely adapt a little recursive acronym for meetings and seminars. "Lua's undeniable awesome [L.u.a]" 19:00 Kacey jordan4ibanez, can you move players with the node gun? 19:01 jordan4ibanez That's a good idea, but no, only nodes 19:01 Kacey aww there needs to be a gravity gun that move entities and a gravity node gun that moves everything 19:02 jordan4ibanez that would be hard to do, since it would have to handle every entities velocity/excelleration 19:10 * VanessaE peeks in 19:10 mauvebic you missed the dancing midgets 19:10 VanessaE heh 19:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, I almost managed to crash your server 19:11 VanessaE hmmmm: told you the HUD element positioning (re: kaeza) and texture size (re: Calinou) would be a problem ... 19:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: how so? 19:11 PilzAdam the item drop mod you have should check if digger is nil 19:11 PilzAdam if I run /dig on some nodes, all are dropped as entities 19:12 hmmmm how is it a problem? 19:12 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ^^^^^^^^^ 19:12 hmmmm it's working properly as intended 19:12 hmmmm if you want small hearts, you have to scale them down yourself now, that's all 19:12 VanessaE hmmmm: kaeza wants some kind of relative slotted positioning, calinou implies the images need to be scaled. fwiw: 20 px is the optimal size of a HUD image/ 19:12 RealBadAngel i have fixed item drop to work properly 19:13 hmmmm i want slotted positioning too. making that happen is a whole other story. 19:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: evidently not if the digger is nil :) 19:13 hmmmm i don't really care what the optimial size of a hud image is, you scale it down 19:13 mauvebic slotted = like the formspecs? what would be the grid size for the whole window? 19:13 hmmmm i am not about to go restrict the users' freedom when it really doesn't need to happen that way 19:14 mauvebic might be confusing if the formspec gridsize is different 19:14 VanessaE mauvebic: yes, but formspecs can be drawn smoothly too, you don't actuall yhave to stick right to the slots. 19:14 hmmmm waaah i have to open a single texture up in an editor and click a couple buttons and then save it 19:14 VanessaE mauvebic: you can, for example,position a box at 1.2345 x 4.567 relative coords if you want. 19:15 mauvebic i havent done anything with the hud yet, im assuming its using pixel placement? 19:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, ping me if you have updated worldedit++ 19:15 kaeza hmmmm, it's not about texture resizing; some mods may want to use default textures in the HUD, which could be replaced by higher-res versions 19:15 VanessaE hmmmm: for me, the issue is more a matter of forward-compatibility: if some user has a big-ass 4k screen, I want those hearts to be drawn at a much-higher-than-16px resolution wherever possible. 19:16 hmmmm that's an issue which cannot be solved unless you want to add more complication 19:16 Jordach why cant we do what html divs do 19:16 hmmmm so now you want to scale the hud relative to absolute screen size 19:16 Jordach when w = 8-% 19:16 mauvebic formspecs are nothing like html 19:16 VanessaE hmmmm: do it the way the hotbar is drawn. It is scaled relative. 19:17 hmmmm i'd have to add an option for that somehow 19:17 mauvebic though for lua you could probably come up with some sort of hud-css lol 19:17 mauvebic *from lua 19:18 mauvebic if you could poll the screen size, could you use transform functions on the heart? 19:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: why should digger even be nil? it should be set to the name of the player that executed the dig function. 19:19 VanessaE (that doesn't solve the item_drop issue though) 19:19 PilzAdam that would move all the nodes into the players inventory 19:19 PilzAdam wich isnt good at all 19:20 VanessaE you still need to make it behave properly with node_ownership 19:21 VanessaE (/replace, /setarea, /dig, etc) 19:21 PilzAdam yea 19:21 PilzAdam thats somewhere at the bottom of my TODO list 19:22 PilzAdam does Worldedit work with it? 19:23 VanessaE I've never tested it. 19:23 VanessaE to that end I mean 19:23 VanessaE though I *think* I did get stopped by n_o once, don't remember what it was 19:23 VanessaE (might have been the //replace command) 19:24 emptty I'm probably stupid, but could someone tell me what's the difference between build games, survival ones and minetest_game ones ? 19:24 emptty it's not part of the git repo description, unfortunately 19:24 PilzAdam currently theres not much difference 19:25 PilzAdam but the goals of these games are different 19:29 jordan4ibanez pilzadam do you know a way to make entities physical but not collide with other entities? 19:30 PilzAdam nope 19:30 PilzAdam except making a 0 collisionbox 19:30 PilzAdam but I think thats not what you meant 19:31 jordan4ibanez semi-physical, collides with nodes, not entities 19:31 emptty Can I trust the info of http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/listing.php?id=mod ? ie, are they still kinda uptodate? 19:32 emptty I find the list much easier to navigate than the forums, and I try to understand why this is not listed from the main site 19:32 PilzAdam its not complete 19:35 Calinou_ (shortened a bit) 19:35 Jordach /nick Calinou 19:36 PilzAdam VanessaE, Worldedit already has "2", and I want to differ 19:36 Kacey bbl 19:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: gotchya 19:37 PilzAdam its is restarted? 19:37 VanessaE Calinou_: I've been testing some moreblocks stairs/slabs with the screwdriver, seems to work great. you can safely remove all "upside down", "wall", etc slabs and stairs. 19:37 VanessaE Calinou_: I think it would be reasonable to alias them all to each respective "normal" one. 19:38 VanessaE forget the conversion ABM's unless someone complains 19:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: indeed yes. 19:38 Calinou_ I could just remove all upside down variations and tell people to use screwdriver, and place stuff upsidedown automagically when placing on a ceiling 19:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: it only takes ~5 seconds for the server to restart after I shut it down 19:38 Calinou_ would work 19:38 VanessaE Calinou_: yes. 19:38 VanessaE Calinou_: and "wall" varieties too. 19:38 VanessaE and all "sideways" objects 19:38 Calinou_ wall varieties, not really 19:39 VanessaE yes, even those 19:39 Calinou_ what if you want to place stairs on a wall 19:39 VanessaE rotate them. 19:39 VanessaE everything can be rotated to any orientation 19:39 VanessaE all you need to do is set the facedir properly on placement. 19:39 Calinou_ talking about legit gameplay 19:39 VanessaE me too 19:40 Calinou_ if you want to place slabs or stairs to climb up a wall in a mine, you do not want them to be placed in their wall variation 19:40 VanessaE oh I see 19:40 VanessaE hm 19:40 Calinou_ upsidedown when placed on ceiling is understandable, wall when placed on a wall could have a lot of side effects 19:40 VanessaE well either way, get rid of *all* of the similar nodes 19:40 VanessaE if it can be rotated, let the user use a screwdriver to do it. 19:40 Calinou_ I'll do that when I get to my desktop, not now ;) 19:41 Jordach ^ craptop user 19:41 Jordach oh wait, im using one 19:41 Jordach s/crap/lap 19:42 * VanessaE counts... you can reduce it from 30 nodes per material type to just 9. 19:42 Calinou_ programming on 10.1" screen != fun 19:42 ImQ009 >Calinou_ and programming 19:42 mauvebic netbook? 19:42 Calinou_ and small keyboard with no numpad :P 19:43 Calinou_ yeah 19:43 mauvebic yeah 19:43 mauvebic ive done it by necessity, but its not always easy 19:43 mauvebic it took me 3 months to get used to the 80% keyboard 19:43 mauvebic kept tapping the wrong keys all the time at first lol 19:43 mauvebic i dont look where i type or type like a secretary with two fingers lol 19:44 VanessaE stair, corner stair that looks like a whole block with one microcube missing, panel, microcube, half stair, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 slabs, and the corner stair that looks like a slab with microblock on it. 19:44 VanessaE everything else can be created from various rotations of those, including some blocks that don't exist now (I have one such in my house) 19:44 mauvebic anyway, wife wants to play the sims, bbl 19:45 Jordach Calinou_, oh fuck 19:45 Jordach i hate limited keyboards too 19:45 Jordach (they piss me off too) 19:46 Exio coding in a netbook isn't that hard 19:47 Exio it is hard when you are used to a "big" keyboard 19:49 jordan4ibanez http://www.midiplaza.com/songs/DragonForce-Through-the-Fire-and-Flames/209/ 19:51 Calinou_ roboman didn't like you song, joran 19:51 Calinou_ jordan4ibanez* 19:51 jordan4ibanez he probably cried lol 19:53 STHGOM REALLY complicated. 20:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: lag = big website upload in progress that is sucking up all my upstream bandwidth. Shall I cancel it? 20:04 PilzAdam no, I try again later 20:04 VanessaE ok 20:04 PilzAdam ping me if youre done 20:04 VanessaE it's really no trouble to restart it. 20:04 VanessaE in fact I need to cancel it anyways, it's out of date. 20:06 VanessaE go ahead and sign back on and resume what you were doing if you want to. I'll upload later when the server's idle (it needs to be - it's part of my backup procedure) 20:06 STHGOM bye mates 20:09 Calinou_ VanessaE, tip: wondershaper :P 20:09 Calinou_ install it, sudo wondershaper (in kilobits, not kilobytes) 20:10 Calinou_ if you reach the bandwidth you set, it will prevent congestion if you're not using all bandwidth available 20:10 VanessaE ah, nice 20:10 Calinou_ useful to play when downloading/uploading ;) 20:10 VanessaE so, done rewriting stairsplus + circular saw yet? :D 20:11 Calinou_ no, later :P 20:11 VanessaE :P 20:14 VanessaE there, files are updated and now uploading the right ones :-) 20:14 VanessaE (wondershaper for later) 20:18 Exio Calinou_: i prefer trickle 20:18 Exio or did i miss some word 20:34 cosarara97 When I dig 2 blocks in my server, the second one re-appears. What can I change to fix that? 20:37 Calinou_ /set -n disable_anticheat true 20:37 Calinou_ not permanent, edit minetest.conf and add "disable_anticheat = true" 20:38 cosarara97 It's still happening. What does the -n do, btw? 20:39 jojoa1997|Tablet good news 20:39 Calinou_ maybe "new", create the setting if it doesn't exist 20:39 Calinou_ /help set 20:40 jojoa1997|Tablet XD i forgot what i was going to say 20:40 cosarara97 jojoa1997|Tablet: :( 20:40 jojoa1997|Tablet oh wait i remember 20:40 Calinou_ tablet user ^ 20:40 jojoa1997|Tablet i got minitest's crafting table to work when clicked 20:41 jojoa1997|Tablet and surivival now has a background 20:41 celeron55 Calinou_: why are you always saying "-n" 20:42 cosarara97 celeron55: I needed it 20:42 celeron55 Calinou_: -n is for setting settings that don't exist yet 20:42 celeron55 so that by leaving it out, you can't flood the configuration file with random typoed settings that have no effect 20:43 Calinou_ probably an attitude that I got because I couldn't create settings back in march 2012 or so :P 20:43 Calinou_ iirc, I remember doing /set time_speed 1 and it didn't work 20:43 Uberi maybe you didn't have time_speed already in your config? 20:43 Calinou_ also, disable_anticheat doesn't exist by default, it's not put in minetest.conf 20:44 cosarara97 Oh wait, it's working now 20:44 Calinou_ and most people don't have disable_anticheat = false in their minetest.conf, it would be redundant 20:44 celeron55 Uberi: it's always in defaultsettings.cpp 20:44 Calinou_ ah, ok 20:44 PilzAdam Uberi, https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp 20:44 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 6/16 20:44 MinetestBot 0.375 20:44 jojoa1997|Tablet sweet it works 20:44 celeron55 all settings except some that mods have invented themselves always exist 20:45 Uberi neat! 20:45 Uberi lemme take a look through the code 20:45 VanessaE Uberi: you and PilzAdam need to merge those projects :-) 20:45 VanessaE the way he does worldedit is VERY smart 20:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, merge is almost impossible 20:46 PilzAdam you need to rewrite everything to fit my system 20:46 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam i got inventory working 20:46 jojoa1997|Tablet also cactii are now nodeboxes 20:46 PilzAdam Uberi, did you know about the limit of worldedit schems? 20:46 Uberi still reading the README, actually 20:46 PilzAdam (in latest format version) 20:46 Uberi PilzAdam: nope 20:47 Uberi something to do with limits of minetest.serialize? 20:47 PilzAdam http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-20#i_3034179 20:47 PilzAdam yes 20:47 Uberi looking 20:47 VanessaE offtopic: more homedecor updates pushed today, just bugfixes and minor tweaks. HDX got a couple of nice updates also 20:47 Uberi aw poop it's that old Lua limit 20:48 Uberi OK, thanks PilzAdam I will investigate 20:49 PilzAdam the main idea of Worldedit++ is to run 512 actions per server step 20:49 PilzAdam with this speed you dont experince lag at all 20:49 PilzAdam *experience 20:49 Uberi apparently it is fixed in LuaJIT 2.0 20:49 Uberi which version does T use? 20:49 Uberi * MT 20:50 Uberi (my M key is acting up, seems like a hardware issue) 20:50 VanessaE whatever's on your system. 20:50 VanessaE (I use LuaJIT from git, myself) 20:50 Uberi which one does PilzAdam's build use? 20:50 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone thought of adding to minetest a way to define wether you can place on something or near something 20:52 PilzAdam Uberi, I have no idea what version of LuaJIT my build use, Im just happy that I found a .lib and .dll for windows 20:52 VanessaE it's probably 2.0.1+hotfix 20:52 Uberi hmm, in that case constant slots should be unlimited... 20:53 PilzAdam in my Linux build I use 2.0.0~beta9 20:54 Uberi well, http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2010-03/msg00238.html states "This problem is not present in LuaJIT 2.0.", so I guess the best solution is to get it upgraded somehow 20:54 Uberi for now I need a workaround 20:55 Uberi seems like it was fixed in LuaJIT stable 20:55 PilzAdam the problem does appear in LuaJIT 2.0 for me 20:56 Calinou_ Version: 2.0.0~beta9+dfsg-2 20:56 VanessaE hence why I build against git :) 20:56 Calinou_ ^ quantal has this luajit for info 20:56 Uberi PilzAdam: this is stable LuaJIT, yes? 20:56 PilzAdam Calinou_, yes, thats the one Im using 20:56 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam i am using the item_drop from minetest-black because it allows you to drop one item at a time not the entire stack 20:56 PilzAdam Uberi, "beta9" doesnt sound stable 20:57 Uberi I believe the newspost refers to stable, so I guess the issue was fixed after beta9 20:57 Uberi anyways I still need to find a solution 20:58 Uberi (and hopefully avoid writing a parser for the thing) 20:59 PilzAdam whatever you do, I have to do the same in worldedit++ :-) 20:59 PilzAdam do you plan to change the format in the future? 20:59 Calinou_ raring will have 2.0.0+dfsg-1 20:59 Uberi PilzAdam: I hope this is the last one, the MT serialization format should be more than flexible enough 21:00 Calinou_ cool, one more reason to upgrade :p 21:00 Uberi all previous formats will be supported forever, of course 21:00 PilzAdam Calinou_, is there ever a reason not to upgrade? 21:00 PilzAdam Uberi, not in worldedit++ 21:00 Uberi whoa lua HUDs! 21:00 PilzAdam I only support current format 21:01 Uberi I have to go check this out later 21:01 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam if i use lua hud in minitest will it be compatable with non dev games 21:01 PilzAdam can someone write a converter from previous to current formats? 21:02 Uberi PilzAdam: sure, I think that might be a better idea than bloating up //serialize and //allocate 21:02 Calinou_ PilzAdam, yes, to troll mark shuttleworth 21:02 PilzAdam Calinou_, good point 21:02 VanessaE bbl 21:03 Uberi aww, I have to write a parser to do this 21:05 jojoa1997|Tablet paramtype2? 21:06 Calinou_ hi kaeza 21:06 Calinou_ jojoa1997|Tablet, afaik no 21:06 Calinou_ just tell people to get dev builds :P 21:06 khonkhortisan *digs* *cobble comes back* *digs again* *tnt-sized group of cobble falls* *attack of the killer cobble!* 21:06 Uberi PilzAdam: was this where you got the DLL, by any chance? https://github.com/malkia/ufo/raw/master/bin/Windows/x86/luajit.dll 21:07 * Calinou_ creates a trackmania track named "Attack of the Killer Cobble" and puts music of the same name on it 21:07 PilzAdam Uberi, yes 21:08 kaeza hai Calinou_ 21:09 jojoa1997|Tablet is there a way to make a player get hurt when touching a certain nodebox 21:09 Calinou_ damage_per_second hurts when inside a node, must be non-walkable 21:09 Uberi hmm, LuaJIT 2.0 stable came out 12 days after the build was made 21:09 cosarara97 how can I make an unknown node disappear? 21:10 jojoa1997|Tablet dig it 21:10 cosarara97 I can't 21:10 Calinou_ (she said, but true) 21:10 Uberi dig harder 21:10 Calinou_ in 0.4.6 you can 21:10 celeron55 place something to the position where it is 21:10 ShadowNinja Uberi: lol 21:11 PilzAdam cosarara97, use worldedit ++ and plain the whole reagion! 21:11 cosarara97 D: 21:12 Uberi cosarara97: use //p set, punch it twice, then use //set air 21:12 cosarara97 Uberi: I don't have worldedit installed 21:12 PilzAdam delete map.sqlite 21:13 cosarara97 PilzAdam: and / ;) 21:13 Uberi cosarara97: you should! :P 21:13 cosarara97 okay, let's install worldedit 21:13 Uberi PilzAdam: found a Jan 2013 dll, will test if problem still exists 21:13 PilzAdam nooo 21:13 PilzAdam cosarara97, use worldedit++ 21:13 Uberi aw no it's statically linked! 21:13 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp 21:14 Uberi or use PilzAdam's new WE++ :) 21:14 Uberi PilzAdam: does it have full feature parity? 21:14 Uberi //rotate, //transpose, etc? 21:14 PilzAdam nope 21:14 cosarara97 okay, okay, just promise it wont just delete map.sqlite when run, lol 21:14 Uberi planning to add those? 21:14 PilzAdam all commands are listed in the README 21:15 PilzAdam yea, maybe worldedit++_plus for extra commands :-) 21:15 Uberi cosarara97: no warranties! but it shouldn't do that 21:15 PilzAdam (like farming_plus) 21:15 Uberi PilzAdam: WorldEdit+++ 21:15 Deivan Calinou_, try catch the cgmr:pc and deploy again if you don't see the form. 21:15 PilzAdam I dont want it to be bloated 21:15 Calinou_ wrong guy ö_ö 21:15 Deivan oo 21:15 Deivan Sorry. 21:16 Uberi PilzAdam: I do think it should be merged/made into an API though, WorldEdit is going to have worldedit_infinity, worldedit_gui, and worldedit_limited eventually 21:16 Calinou_ np :) 21:16 PilzAdam yea 21:16 PilzAdam recode the whole thing again! 21:16 Uberi (infinity is an addon that gives the player infinite reach) 21:16 Deivan Yes, yes, I seeking the Sapier... lol 21:16 Deivan :D 21:16 Deivan AFK 21:16 Uberi but first I need to finish worldedit_items for that to work 21:17 Deivan How is the correct form to make my function delay some time before a action? 21:17 Deivan Ie: 10 seconds. 21:18 Uberi minetest.after, Deivan 21:18 Deivan Ok, I am using it. 21:18 Deivan Thanks. 21:18 cosarara97 I don't know how to use this thing, old worldedit was easier :P 21:19 cosarara97 What does /p# do? 21:19 Uberi cosarara97: which one are you using? 21:19 Uberi ++ has different commands 21:19 cosarara97 Uberi: ++ 21:19 PilzAdam cosarara97, /p1 sets position 1 21:19 cosarara97 I know how tu use non-++ worldedit 21:19 PilzAdam /p1p sets it to the next punched node 21:19 Uberi cosarara97: might as well install it too: https://github.com/Uberi/minetest-worldedit 21:19 Uberi the chat commands don't conflict, after all 21:20 PilzAdam Uberi, I originally made WE++ just for me 21:20 PilzAdam because Worldedit sucks 21:20 PilzAdam or the version I tried once 21:21 PilzAdam (the player position wasnt rounded correctly, etc.) 21:21 PilzAdam and the most annyoing thing was the huge lag 21:21 Uberi yeah that was bugging me a bit too before 21:22 cosarara97 well, I managed to remove the unknown node 21:22 Uberi congrats 21:22 Uberi how? 21:22 cosarara97 those selection boxes are really nice, by the way, PilzAdam 21:22 cosarara97 Uberi: select with /p1p and /p2p and /dig 21:23 Uberi cool 21:23 cosarara97 PilzAdam: can I unselect? 21:23 PilzAdam no 21:23 PilzAdam just do /marker off to remove the markers 21:24 Uberi argh I found a luajit buildbot but it only went up to beta8 _ 21:25 PilzAdam Uberi, btw: check to not crash when hitting the limit: https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp/blob/master/init.lua#L1145 21:25 Uberi that's a good idea 21:26 PilzAdam it also tends to crash here if the file is corrupted: https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp/blob/master/init.lua#L249 21:26 PilzAdam (x being nil) 21:27 PilzAdam but I dont want to add a check there because it would slow it down too much (maybe) 21:27 Uberi well, doing all those checks would reduce perforance 21:27 Uberi yeah 21:27 PilzAdam and its very unlikely to crash there if it passes the first test 21:28 Uberi argh these LuaJIT 2.0.1 are 64 bit only! 21:29 * PilzAdam doesnt understand why there are no official LuaJIT win builds 21:29 Uberi anyways, I guess this means I will be writing a parser 21:29 Uberi LuaJIT's speed should partially make up for this 21:30 PilzAdam there are 2 things that lag in WE++: loading and saving files 21:30 PilzAdam i.e. serialiation and writing/reading 21:31 Uberi PilzAdam: because of minetest.deserialize? 21:31 PilzAdam I need to find a way to split that into parts and execute it in steps too 21:31 Uberi PilzAdam: do you have any big saves I can test with? 21:31 PilzAdam Uberi, I dont know if minetest.serialize()/deserialize() or file:write()/read() takes longer 21:31 Uberi I only have rather small ones for my mesecons machines 21:32 PilzAdam I just have randomly selected a huge are an then /save 21:32 PilzAdam the file was > 30Mib 21:32 Calinou_ Uberi, hello 32 bit user 21:32 Calinou_ how's 2^32 21:32 PilzAdam serilization + writing has lagged the server > 2 minutes 21:32 Uberi o/ 21:33 Uberi Calinou_: quite well thank you 21:33 * Calinou_ runs 64 bit on his netbook, while his netbook was shipped with 32 bit windows 21:33 Calinou_ same for old laptop 21:33 * khonkhortisan minimized minetest and is watching himself place nodes 21:33 Uberi Calinou_: believe me, I'm itching to upgrade :) 21:35 PilzAdam buying another 32 Bit shouldnt be that expensive... 21:37 Uberi computers don't exactly grow on trees 21:37 STHGOM no? 21:37 Uberi not yet, at least 21:38 kaeza Calinou_, https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7346553344/hF2F1FD0E/ 21:38 jojoa1997|Tablet this is killing me 21:39 Pentium44 Kacey, you here? 21:40 Calinou_ lol kaeza 21:41 Kacey ya 21:41 Calinou_ TF2 ftw :P 21:42 bas080 making abstract trees mod. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004202013%20-%2011%3A41%3A13%20PM.png Finished the palmtree model. Adding and updating jungletree mod. 21:43 Kacey Pentium44, what do you want me for? 21:43 kaeza still stuck with TFC :( 21:43 kaeza (crappy gfx card here) 21:44 STHGOM bye 21:59 Jordach its quiet 22:00 PilzAdam no, some guy named Jordach speaks to himself 22:00 Jordach lol 22:01 Jordach im just stating the obvious 22:03 WiredOnLinux Kacey, hello pm 22:04 kaeza who is pm? lol 22:04 kaeza punctuation matters :P 22:05 Exio kaeza still alive 22:05 Exio did you get your inet at home back? 22:05 Exio :D 22:05 kaeza I'm a zombie 22:05 Exio D: 22:05 * Exio bites kaeza 22:05 PilzAdam /givem default:shovel_steel 22:05 PilzAdam *giveme 22:05 * PilzAdam hits kaeza's head away 22:06 Exio /giveme default:pick_mese 22:06 * Exio digs a tunel and goes away 22:06 kaeza /giveme ignore 22:06 kaeza (yep it works :D ) 22:06 PilzAdam CHEATER SPOTTED! 22:06 Exio what the fuck? 22:06 PilzAdam well, a headless, zombie cheater 22:07 Exio kaeza: i want a preprocessor+macros, closures and high order functions in bash 22:07 Exio code them, bash is C! 22:07 kaeza Exio, let google do the work for me ;) 22:08 kaeza also, PilzAdam is this any better? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_676980698.jpg 22:08 PilzAdam s/google/startpage/g 22:08 PilzAdam kaeza, yes 22:08 kaeza (don't mind the crappy textures) 22:08 PilzAdam but everything is better than the previous one 22:08 PilzAdam so thats not a compliment at all 22:08 kaeza left is hunger, right is thirst, top is oxygen 22:09 PilzAdam IMO you can remove the symbols for oxygen and thirst 22:09 PilzAdam and maybe move hunger to the top of thirst 22:12 PilzAdam R.I.P: Uberi|Away 22:12 Uberi he eez not deaad 22:12 Uberi I am heem 22:13 * Uberi strokes his clearly false moustache 22:17 kaeza cool.. this does not look ugly now, and is perfectly scalable (at least looks good on 700p and 1024p): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_696539664.jpg 22:17 kaeza 800p* 22:17 Uberi kaeza: the glass thing is overlapping the apple thing 22:17 PilzAdam best idea of the day by: PilzAdam :-p 22:17 Uberi otherwise very nice 22:18 kaeza Uberi, the icons will prolly go away in favor of better "bar" mages 22:18 Uberi ah cool 22:18 kaeza images* 22:18 kaeza I'm just playing around with the layout to see what works best 22:19 Uberi anyways I am going to continue writing the WE format parser 22:19 Kacey Uberi, i tried making a clock 22:19 Uberi you ean like the watch od? 22:20 Uberi ugh y keyboard is acting up again 22:20 Kacey lol 22:20 Kacey no the digital mesecons clock 22:20 Uberi oh I see 22:20 Uberi how'd it go? 22:20 Jordach when i use the word cunts, im angry 22:20 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85431#p85431 22:21 Kacey the minute display never worked, so i didnt contiu=nue 22:21 Uberi Kacey: didn't work? if you want I can join the server and troubleshoot 22:22 PilzAdam Jordach, honestly, with this attitude, Im glad you dont develop minetest 22:23 Jordach PilzAdam, i never bothered due to this anti new dev attitude 22:23 PilzAdam also, RBA isnt a new dev 22:23 PilzAdam FYI hes even a core dev 22:23 Jordach you treat him as if he is one 22:23 Kacey Uberi, sure let me start it 22:24 Jordach bbl 22:24 PilzAdam Jordach, Im judging code, no matter who wrote it 22:24 Jordach merge it then clean it 22:24 Uberi might not the reverse order work as well? 22:24 Kacey nvm it works... 22:24 Kacey but go ahead and join 22:24 Uberi cool, whats the ip? 22:24 PilzAdam Jordach, why should I rewrite the whole code of others if they want it to be merged? 22:24 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 22:25 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down 22:25 Uberi is 0.4.6 stable OK? 22:25 Pentium44 !up minetest.ltmnet.com 22:25 MinetestBot minetest.ltmnet.com:30000 is up (0.493ms) 22:25 Pentium44 awesome 22:25 Pentium44 I love that bot 22:25 Uberi I think lua HUD buped the protocol version 22:26 PilzAdam quote of the day: "Go to hell and die. Or make a fork." – c55 22:27 Pentium44 lul 22:27 Uberi yeah a revival of BlockPlanet should satisfy the people who want the wip stuff 22:27 Pentium44 i guess in not going to hell and dying 22:28 Exio where is the ABM for the "sharing grass" or w/e it is? 22:28 Uberi Exio: content_abm.cpp 22:29 Uberi (in src) 22:29 PilzAdam Exio, you mean dirt -> dirt_with_grass? 22:29 Exio yep PilzAdam 22:29 Exio i'll check Uberi, thans 22:29 Exio thanks * 22:29 PilzAdam that one is in content_abm.cpp 22:29 Uberi no problem :) 22:29 PilzAdam Exio, also the tree growing ABM is there 22:30 Exio i see 22:30 Uberi Kacey: trouble connecting :/ 22:30 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/NyuxeDF.png 22:30 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 22:30 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down 22:30 RealBadAngel how do you like this glass drawtype? 22:30 Uberi niiiiice 22:31 Uberi nodedef in meta? 22:31 RealBadAngel no, new drawtype 22:31 Uberi ah 22:32 RealBadAngel quite similar in work to fences. glass nodes autoconnect to form surfaces 22:32 khonkhortisan weather mod's snow eats stairs 22:32 Exio all the dirt created with my experiments with liquid_grass/stone/dirt is now grass :D 22:32 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 22:32 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.311ms) 22:32 Kacey there 22:32 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, yes, also snow needs to eat something! 22:36 Uberi Kacey: soething wrong with privs 22:36 ShadowNinja | 22:37 Kacey fixed 22:42 khonkhortisan it doesn't check that the node above is air, it just checks that there's enough light 22:42 kaeza you know what? I'm nuking survival_modpack and rewriting from scratch 22:43 kaeza the API was useful when meters where implemented as tools, but since we have custom HUDs now, it's not needed 22:50 VanessaE back 22:50 Exio wb 22:53 Deivan Someone have a example of the minetest.show_formspec() function? 22:53 kaeza Deivan, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/bookex.zip 22:53 Deivan Thanks. 22:53 kaeza it's a bit simple, but gets the work done 22:55 Deivan Is the point. :D 22:55 Deivan AFK 22:55 [0gb_us] I'm looking for ideas for something that spawns in large plentiful deposits underground. Like, deposits so large that finding a full map block containing only that node wouldn't be too uncommon. So it can't be something overly valuable. Does anyone here have any ideas? 22:55 kaeza SPAAAAAAAAM 22:55 kaeza :P 22:55 Uberi o/ 22:55 Uberi PilzAdam: just to be clear, the WE issue affects //save AND //load correct? 22:56 PilzAdam only //load 22:56 Uberi I have the basic escape handler for the parser down, it's very fast still 22:56 Uberi PilzAdam: so inetest.serialize is not faulty? 22:56 Uberi excuse the keyboard 22:56 PilzAdam nope 22:56 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, do not add survival to minitest just yet 22:57 Kacey Uberi, go ahead and get on my server 22:57 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 22:57 MinetestBot 67.162.156.91:30000 is up (0.318ms) 22:57 Uberi Kacey: I gotta fix WorldEdit first :) 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza OK. 22:57 PilzAdam Uberi, or at least, we dont know since we cant deserialize and check 22:57 PilzAdam but its unlikely that its buggy 22:57 Uberi that's true 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza I plan on making firearms mod-addon to add nerf guns 22:57 khonkhortisan what worldedit issue? 22:58 Kacey Uberi, still having a small glithc 22:58 Kacey glitch* 22:58 Uberi oh? 22:58 Uberi for the clock right? 22:58 jojoa1997|Tablet Bbs 22:59 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, a limit for /load schems 22:59 PilzAdam LuaJIT related 22:59 Kacey yep 22:59 Uberi need a workaround until we upgrade to new LuaJIT 23:00 PilzAdam Uberi, would it be a huge performance decrease if we first try minetest.deserialize() and fall back to your workaround if it fails? 23:00 khonkhortisan Oh that. I've gotten that loading a connectfour circuit 23:01 khonkhortisan it had CONTENT_IGNORE holes through it too 23:01 Uberi I don't think the workaround would ake uch of a perforance difference for anything saller than those 65000 nodes 23:01 Uberi khonkhortisan: no no that's a different issue where we need force_load entities to solve 23:01 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, the bug is not about CONTENT_IGNORE, but a crash when laoding the file 23:02 Uberi I just need to test a few things now 23:03 VanessaE [0gb_us]: some blend of stone, cobble, dirt (re: the big perhaps mapblock-sized globs of whatever it should be) 23:03 VanessaE think of the usesdirt mod, for example. One of the nodes in there may be suitable. 23:05 PilzAdam its late again :-/ 23:06 PilzAdam bye 23:14 Deivan Well... I am searching here and the entire submodule diamonds is the same default diamonds then... I only have a difference, I made new textures. 23:15 Deivan I don't know if I give it to the current mod or if I only remove from the lava cooling... :-/ 23:17 Deivan VanessaE, I lost all sounds from doors, I don't rear nothing... 23:17 VanessaE Deivan: doors have no sounds as far as I am aware. 23:17 Deivan Is it... :d 23:17 Kacey i am in an argument about minetest bieng an indie game or not 23:17 Deivan I have doors default and from glass, all with sounds, when I open some of homedecor doors I miss it. :D 23:18 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3EwouS5ro0&feature=youtu.be 23:18 VanessaE Deivan: I'll consider adding sounds to homedecor doors at some point. 23:18 Deivan Nice. 23:18 Deivan :) 23:19 Deivan Well, maybe borrow the current sonds at last? 23:19 Deivan Maybe, in the current version... :d 23:19 VanessaE maybe 23:19 VanessaE or I'll come up with my own 23:19 Deivan Is a idea. :D 23:20 jojoa1997|Tablet harrison what is that? 23:20 Deivan I will try fix the mineral detector and the teleport mods here... AFK 23:21 harrison a cover version of zppa's song "camarillo brillo" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camarillo_Brillo 23:22 jojoa1997|Tablet oh i didnt have noise on 23:22 jojoa1997|Tablet what was the video of? 23:25 harrison i choose to answer that by directing your attention to the previous N films in that youtube channel 23:25 harrison where N is a large integer 23:26 Uberi and has a positive sign 23:29 harrison thus my motto 23:29 harrison CYGNUS INTER ANATES 23:34 kaeza crapity crap 23:34 kaeza it seems you cannot modify the "text" of a "text" hud item on the fly :( 23:35 Uberi what? really? 23:35 harrison i must also mention spasim.org : i hope that clarifies it 23:36 kaeza Uberi, player:hud_change(id, "text", "trollolo") does not werk 23:36 kaeza :( 23:36 Uberi maybe reove and readd? 23:37 kaeza that's what I did 23:37 Uberi and that didn't work either? 23:37 kaeza BTW, anyone interested, here's a stupid "clock" HUD item based on the time of day in-game: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/testclock.zip 23:38 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, ^ 23:41 Exio flowing leaves :D 23:42 khonkhortisan I'm a tree climber, I want climbable leaves 23:42 Exio haha 23:42 Exio a whole sea of leaves 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet O.O 23:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i just figured out that if you middle click in blender you move the camer 23:43 jojoa1997|Tablet camera 23:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i have been using my number pad the entir time 23:44 kaeza congrats! you just solved one of the mysteries of blender. you still have 8925613548912534 to go :P 23:44 kaeza seriously, blender interface sucks 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet nope 23:44 Uberi how so? 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet 8926513548912533 23:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i just soleved the mystery of why there are so many mysteries 23:45 jojoa1997|Tablet oh and the interface really sucks 23:45 kaeza well, I come from using ArtOfIllusion and Anim8or 23:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont know anything and i spend more time trying to figure it out than to code a mod 23:46 kaeza and I feel like blender is the vim (or even emacs) of 3D modelling programs 23:47 Uberi kaeza: I used Anim8or before blender, that thing was great 23:47 ShadowNinja Powerfull but hard? 23:47 ShadowNinja Me too 23:48 Uberi although after using blender for 5 minutes I needed the Extrude feature :) 23:48 Uberi and so Ani8or was relegated to the great recycling bin in the sky 23:48 * ShadowNinja uses vim, but gedit is generaly easier 23:48 kaeza not yet, I still have my copy :P 23:48 Uberi not to mention it hasn't been updated in over a literal decade 23:48 Exio geany > gedit 23:49 kaeza Exio, o/ 23:49 iqualfragile vim > * 23:49 Uberi geany is the best 23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza that mod doesnt work 23:49 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: lol 23:49 Exio vim > geany > gedit 23:49 Exio yes 23:49 kaeza leafpad > * 23:49 kaeza <* 23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet line 7 23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet math.mod 23:50 Uberi I tried Vim, the modal editing is great but it can't even handle a few GB sized files 23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet what is it meant to be 23:50 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, great bug report :) 23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet math.random? 23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza it is your mod 23:50 kaeza math.mod == math.mod 23:50 Exio module 23:50 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza did you test this mod? 23:51 jojoa1997|Tablet attempt to call dield 'mod' (a nil value) 23:51 kaeza no I just released it not working 23:51 jojoa1997|Tablet field 23:51 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, works here 23:51 kaeza are you using LuaJit? 23:51 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 23:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i am using pilzadams latest build 23:52 jojoa1997|Tablet it is the lua hud one 23:52 kaeza dafuq 23:52 kaeza LuaJit has no math.mod() ? 23:52 Exio i'm using the nearly lastest 23:52 Exio with luajit 23:52 Uberi just use x%y instead of math.mod(x,y) 23:52 Exio what mod? 23:52 Uberi there's a built in modulo operator 23:52 kaeza Uberi, does lua support % operator? 23:52 Exio (mod in terms of mods) 23:53 Uberi no need to use the ath lib 23:53 Uberi of course 23:53 kaeza hmm 23:53 Uberi it's also faster,I ight add 23:53 Exio works for me 23:53 kaeza first time I hear of that one, but indeed works 23:53 Exio if the mod is the clockything 23:54 kaeza yep 23:54 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 23:54 Exio debian6, luajit 23:54 jojoa1997|Tablet dos your games have this commit? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/527deb947ca992d2b0533db02eddf38e8150960b 23:55 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, change line 7: from math.mod(math.floor(x), y) to "math.floor(x) % y" 23:55 Exio nope, lemme try 23:55 jojoa1997|Tablet NO ME 23:56 YoungDerp bbiab 23:56 jojoa1997|Tablet works 23:56 jojoa1997|Tablet noppe 23:56 jojoa1997|Tablet oh wait 23:56 Exio last commit 23:57 Exio git pulled 1 minute ago, compiled and mod working 23:57 Exio at least on minimal :) 23:57 jojoa1997|Tablet ok it loaded 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet works 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet though why do texture packs weird out 23:58 Exio layer 8 problems 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet my hearts are longer than inven hotbar 23:59 jojoa1997|Tablet GOT SPHAX_DB_CRAFT 23:59 jojoa1997|Tablet lol