Time Nick Message 00:00 OldCoder Should be Kacey_of_Minetest 00:00 Kaceyofminetest and my more descriptive nick 00:00 OldCoder Or MTKacey 00:00 OldCoder Or if you rap 00:00 OldCoder MTKaceyMC 00:00 Kaceyofminetest (Kacey_of_minetest wouldnt fit) 00:00 OldCoder Ah 00:00 Kaceyofminetest actually 00:01 OldCoder Or KC 00:01 OldCoder MTKCMC 00:01 OldCoder :P 00:01 kaeza Kaceyofcommunistcraft :P 00:01 Kacey_of_Minetes darn 00:01 NotReallyNick If it wasn't so easy to tell who I really am, I'd have the perfect tagline: "NotReallyNick: All you know about me is that I claim to be an imposter." 00:01 OldCoder KaceyofMinetest is fine 00:02 VanessaE there, my computer is now about 100dB quieter :) 00:02 kaeza NotReallyNick, better register it 00:02 NotReallyNick Nice! 00:02 VanessaE (replaced bad PSU fan, only two more to go) 00:02 kaeza (or group to your account) 00:03 NotReallyNick How do I stop people from using a registered name? us_0gb IS registered, yet when I don't use it, Jojoa is able to use my name. 00:03 Menche you can ghost them 00:03 Kacey /ns ghost 00:03 VanessaE NotReallyNick: you have to turn on protection also. 00:03 kaeza NotReallyNick, /msg NickServ ghost us_0gb 00:03 VanessaE nonono forget ghosting 00:03 NotReallyNick How do I turn on protection? 00:03 NotReallyNick Ghosting doesn;t help. 00:04 NotReallyNick I need prevention, not after-fixes. 00:04 VanessaE /msg nickserv set ENFORCE 00:04 VanessaE I think. 00:04 VanessaE /msg nickserv set ENFORCE on 00:04 kaeza /msg nickserv set ENFORCE ON 00:04 VanessaE that's the one. 00:04 VanessaE ninja'd :) 00:05 kaeza :P 00:05 mauvebic what is ghosting and protection? 00:05 VanessaE protection tells nickserv to change others' nick name from yours if they try to use yours without IDENTIFYing 00:06 VanessaE e.g. us_0gb -> Guest547853 00:06 mauvebic not a bad idea 00:06 VanessaE for whatever reason, that seems to be turned off by default. 00:06 mauvebic but what do i do when i login and it gives me a spare name? 00:06 VanessaE other networks I've been on, it's turned on by default. 00:06 VanessaE you ghost the offending one and change nick. 00:07 us_0gb 30 seconds .... 00:07 mauvebic i might not remember all that then lol 00:07 us_0gb Is there a way to shorten it to 2? 00:07 VanessaE us_0gb: now configure your IRC client to sign you in automatically. 00:07 Guest44372 It does. 00:07 VanessaE no it don't :) 00:07 Guest44372 Yeah, it does. 00:07 Kacey * us_0gb is now known as Guest44372 00:08 Guest44372 This is my other account, which doesn't have us_0gb's password. 00:08 Kacey haha 00:08 kaeza group it 00:08 Guest44372 My us_0gb account DOES log me in automatically. 00:08 Guest44372 No, I want them seperate. 00:08 Kacey how do i unidentify? 00:09 Guest44372 Send NickServ the word "logout". 00:09 Kacey nick us_0gb 00:09 Kacey * us_0gb :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable 00:09 Kacey lol 00:09 Guest44372 Is there a way to shorten the time limit on an account? People have 30 seconds to make a post as me ... 00:10 NotReallyNick One second is sufficient for autologin. 00:10 Kacey brb 00:10 MinetestBot GIT: MirceaKitsune commited to minetest/minetest: Allow modifying movement speed, jump height and gravity per-player via the Lua API. c5a8448c41 2013-04-04T17:00:59-07:00 http://git.io/i6qsjw 00:10 kaeza \o/ 00:10 kaeza Taoki, +1000 00:11 Taoki kaeza: Thanks :) 00:11 Exio where is my potion mod 00:11 Exio WHERE IS 00:11 * Exio looks at kaeza 00:12 kaeza hah 00:12 Exio NotReallyNick: you can't 00:12 kaeza I was thinking about running boots or the Fire Pendant of Agility +5 00:12 Exio i really want mc-like potions, not custom armor now :P 00:12 kaeza you know, RPG-ish things :P 00:13 Exio as we don't have a "support" in for the armor stuff in the engine 00:13 Exio a potion seems more l33t 00:14 Kacey QUANTUM SUITS!!!!!!!!! 00:16 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJOVctgkto 00:16 NotReallyNick Exio: That really sucks. So people can post as me even with a "protected" name ... 00:17 Exio NotReallyNick: do you know what? don't care about trolls or you are going to get mad 00:17 Exio i know that feel 00:17 Exio as a *real* reader will think that 00:18 Exio and see "oh, god, this is a fake 0gb.us" 00:18 Exio more than "OMG SEE WHAT HE SAID THATS ..." 00:19 Kacey afk dinner 00:21 NotReallyNick It's not that I really care too much, it's that there doesn't seem to even be a point in having a registered nick. The registration is pointless. So why have it? 00:21 NotReallyNick Not that I even use us_0gb here anymore. 00:22 Exio NotReallyNick: the point is for having a "way" to say "i'm X person and i confirm that" 00:22 * NotReallyNick wants a new Minetest feature: dots in user names 00:22 Exio the point is not "that" 00:22 NotReallyNick How do yu confirm it? 00:22 NotReallyNick *You 00:25 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add a delay to nodeupdate() 76b86c0368 2013-04-04T17:24:39-07:00 http://git.io/ixDb7g 00:34 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix nick completion b0e6806077 2013-04-04T17:31:58-07:00 http://git.io/9Gw-YQ 00:37 arsdragonfly hey guys 00:37 arsdragonfly where can i find the changelog for 0.4.6? 00:37 arsdragonfly thanks 00:38 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.5_.E2.86.92_0.4.6 00:39 jordan4ibanez minetest should be part of this http://internetdefenseleague.org/ 00:45 jordan4ibanez "Uploading your video. 1159 minutes remaining." 00:45 PilzAdam what video? 00:45 jordan4ibanez simply minetest episode 2 00:45 jordan4ibanez it's 4.5 gb 00:45 PilzAdam yay! 00:46 VanessaE hm. 00:46 VanessaE 20:44:49: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for "fire_bas 00:46 VanessaE ic_flame_animated.png" 00:46 VanessaE what else uses that image except for the fire mod? 00:46 VanessaE (I don't have that installed, deliberately) 00:46 jordan4ibanez stoves 00:47 jordan4ibanez I mean furnaces 00:47 VanessaE since when? 00:47 NotReallyNick Furnaces use an image in default. 00:47 jordan4ibanez Since I said so 00:47 VanessaE oh you mean in the formspec? 00:47 VanessaE that's animated now? 00:47 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, no 00:47 jordan4ibanez Uploading your video. 1858 minutes remaining and no 00:48 NotReallyNick The formspec uses an image in default, not an image in fire. 00:48 PilzAdam default doesnt use fire_basic_flame.png 00:48 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you have admin tools installed? 00:48 VanessaE PilzAdam: yep. 00:49 PilzAdam Calinou said something about "fakefire" 00:49 VanessaE in fact I just updated that today. 00:49 VanessaE that would explain it then 00:49 PilzAdam oh 00:49 PilzAdam Im so good in fixing bugs! 00:49 VanessaE perhaps the two fire images should be moved to default then. 00:49 PilzAdam no 00:50 VanessaE why not? 00:50 PilzAdam because they are not needed there 00:50 NotReallyNick Fire doesn't belong in default, but admin tools should deliberatly depend on fire if it needs that image. 00:50 VanessaE ok 00:50 VanessaE NotReallyNick: fuck no! 00:50 PilzAdam but he is right 00:50 VanessaE no, hell no, fuck no, and no fucking way, in that order. 00:51 VanessaE I should not have to leave a destructive mod like fire installed just to have maptools. 00:51 PilzAdam or adming tools could just use its own fire texture 00:51 NotReallyNick Well, you could edit your copy to both include the image and not depend on fire. 00:51 PilzAdam -g 00:51 VanessaE better to have maptools include a copy of the image then. 00:51 PilzAdam but give it a different name, or it will override fire mods' one 00:52 VanessaE yeah 00:52 NotReallyNick If it's the same exact image, does it matter if it overrides the default? 00:52 PilzAdam well, the one in the fire mod can change 00:52 NotReallyNick True enough. 00:52 PilzAdam bye 00:54 jordan4ibanez The file was corrupteD ! OJKPQWERJEAW! 00:54 jordan4ibanez bye pilzadam (late) 00:55 VanessaE haha 00:55 NakedFury so many changes from 4.5 to 4.6 00:55 NotReallyNick 4.5 and 4.6 aren't out yet. 00:56 * VanessaE throws a zero at NakedFury 00:56 NakedFury wont be bothered to waste time putting a zero when everyone knows what was mentioned 00:56 NotReallyNick Try telling your math professor that 0.4 and 4 are the same thing. They won't buy it, as it simply isn't true. 00:56 NakedFury it is minetest channel 00:56 Menche can i have your time machine? i want a head start on using the 4.6 modding api 00:57 NotReallyNick Yeah, me too. 00:57 NotReallyNick I want to see what cool features I add too, so I can get a jump start on coding them. 00:57 Menche there some secret repository with a super-accelerated development cycle? 00:58 NotReallyNick I have a couple ideas in the works too, and would like to know if they will make it in. 00:58 Menche does minetest actually become minecraft in the future? 00:58 * NotReallyNick gasps 00:58 NotReallyNick The horror! 00:59 Menche does seem headed that way sometimes... 00:59 VanessaE hahah 00:59 VanessaE NakedFury: as you can see, it matters if you include the zero :)_ 01:00 NotReallyNick Whatever. Hopefully some of us can keep enough non-Minecrafty features in. Although to be honest, one of my new ideas does draw on Minecraft a bit. 01:00 VanessaE nothing wrong with importing minecraft features to minetest if they are reasonable and useful. 01:00 Menche i don't have a problem with using minecraft features, as long as the primary reason is not because it's from minecraft 01:00 NakedFury ^ 01:00 NakedFury yeah 01:00 NotReallyNick THis is both reasonable and useful. Don't worry. 01:01 NotReallyNick This isn't to be like Minecraft either. 01:01 jordan4ibanez I like the delay in falling sand, you can make traps with that 01:01 NotReallyNick Why does lava make obsidian? It should make mese! 01:01 Menche and why is obsidian nearly indestructible? 01:01 VanessaE NotReallyNick: it makes obsidian, basalt, and pumice in gloopblocks :) 01:02 Menche the behavior of lava is nearly identical to mc 01:02 NotReallyNick If the obsidian isn't horribly hard to break, that sounds great, VanessaE! 01:02 VanessaE NotReallyNick: it's default obsidian. 01:02 Kacey back 01:03 VanessaE pumice and basalt the new ones, and they're not all that hard to break I don't think 01:03 NotReallyNick Yeah, Meneche. He denies it, but I'm sure the new lava behaviour was INTENDED to imitate Minecraft. 01:03 Menche i really don't see any other reason for making it so similar 01:04 NotReallyNick Hard to break basalt is fine, just not heard to break volcanic GLASS. 01:04 NotReallyNick *hard 01:04 Menche and having flowing / source lava form different blocks doesn't make a whole lot of sense 01:04 VanessaE Menche: sure it does. the same happens in real life too 01:04 NotReallyNick What do you mean, Menche? 01:05 NotReallyNick OH! I misread. 01:05 VanessaE except the materials are different. 01:05 NotReallyNick I like the hardening lava, as originally written (infinite lava, hardens into cobble and stone). 01:06 mauvebic christ allmightly, zimg, ompldr, any working anon uploaders? lol 01:06 mauvebic nvm, finally worked lol 01:06 Menche that's how it was originally? that makes more sense 01:06 NotReallyNick I need to stop arguing this. It isn't going to change now, it's too late. I need to start working on new solutions. 01:07 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaHpyNQ/screenshot_3619001881.png 01:07 NotReallyNick It was that way until Jojoa pulled for glasslike obsidian, and PilzAdam warped it into Minecraft-like obsidian. 01:08 Menche anyone have opinions on my suggested change to sticks? 01:08 Menche it makes them drop from leaves 01:08 VanessaE NotReallyNick: pull requests against gloopblocks welcome if you think you can work the real lava cooling features into it without breaking what it has now 01:08 Menche IMHO that makes more sense than breaking wood planks into sticks 01:09 VanessaE sticks from leaves is just "okay" 01:09 mauvebic twigs :p 01:09 VanessaE it would at least give them some use other than for saplings. 01:10 Menche also, i find myself not using fences a lot, because i don't want to use up all those wood planks for the sticks 01:10 mauvebic maple trees -> syrup (for edges of winter biomes) 01:10 Menche when leaves drop them, i have plenty of surplus sticks 01:10 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Gloopblocks sounds like it's fine, aside from the finite lava and unbreakably hard obsidian, but those are defined elsewhere. I can't fix what isn't broken. 01:10 NotReallyNick Thanks though. 01:10 VanessaE NotReallyNick: actually I could have gloopblocks redefine the default obsidian to make it less tough 01:10 VanessaE that's quite easy to do. 01:11 VanessaE the finite lava, well..that's a different matter :) 01:11 NotReallyNick Yeah. But it doesn't seem like the RIGHT thing to do. Easy and right aren't the same. 01:11 mauvebic what about special tool for obs? 01:12 NotReallyNick A fix at the source is better than a patch in a plugin. 01:12 kaeza [ 20%] /home/diego/src/minetest/po/ko/minetest.po: warning: Charset "CHARSET" is not a portable encoding name. 01:12 kaeza /home/diego/src/minetest/po/ro/minetest.po: warning: Charset "CHARSET" is not a portable encoding name. 01:12 kaeza thexyz, ^ 01:12 VanessaE NotReallyNick: it's not the "right" thing to do, but it's the only solution there is, really, unless you can get it changed in defaul. 01:12 VanessaE default* 01:12 NotReallyNick Yeah. I'm working on that. 01:13 * VanessaE pokes mrdragons 01:13 VanessaE gah! 01:13 * VanessaE pokes mrtux, rather 01:13 NotReallyNick I have a few other things to work on first. I want to tweak some things with coal and cacti first. Oh yeah, and clay. 01:13 kaeza tab completion phail 01:13 VanessaE kaeza: nick complete prediction fail :) 01:13 mrtux VanessaE: that hurt 01:13 mrtux :p 01:14 arsdragonfly What was the reason for charcoal to be removed? 01:15 arsdragonfly I have to write a mod myself now 01:15 VanessaE arsdragonfly: probably because it isn't needed anymore - it's easy to get coal now 01:15 NotReallyNick I don't know. But I plan to add it back in, as part of my coal pull. 01:15 mauvebic does burning trees give coal? 01:15 NotReallyNick No. 01:15 mauvebic should 01:15 mauvebic played alot of games that do 01:15 VanessaE coal is way too common though. 01:15 NotReallyNick It should, but they won't go for that. 01:15 mauvebic make it less common and add the tree thing to produce new coals in exhausted areas 01:16 NotReallyNick No worries, I have a plan for coal. 01:16 mauvebic are ores distributed more like vains? i know hmmm is working on it tho not familiar with deets 01:16 NotReallyNick Mostly, I need to get a texture made, then I'll be ready to pull request. 01:16 VanessaE mauvebic: not by default, but they can be so distributed using the 'sheet' method I think 01:16 mauvebic okie doke 01:17 NotReallyNick I hope ores are never distributed as veins. Even distribution makes my tunnel project profitable. 01:18 RealBadAngel granite and marble in technic use sheet type 01:18 mauvebic well ores are usually found in deposits/veins, not randomlly but equally spread out :p 01:18 mauvebic leads to having mines just about anywhere 01:19 NotReallyNick Also, land isn't made of cubes. Do you want to make that realistic too? 01:19 RealBadAngel hold on, it isnt? 01:19 mauvebic meh, if it were up to you the game would be the same its always been 01:19 RealBadAngel shit 01:20 NotReallyNick Until Minetest no longer takes place in a voxel-based world, I don't see why we need to head toward realism. 01:20 mauvebic wouldn't hurt 01:21 jordan4ibanez Realismtest 01:21 arsdragonfly voxel is just a not-so-good way towards realism 01:21 mauvebic fans are usually proud when parents boast these games are somewhat educational, we shouldn't be teaching the wrong lessons 01:21 NotReallyNick Uneven distribution WOULD hurt. It would hurt my poor treasury. 01:21 arsdragonfly or nothing can be destroyed 01:21 VanessaE in that case, let's just make the land out of sponge instead of dirt, jell-o instead of water, and brownies instead of stone 01:22 mauvebic and just because the game is made up of blocks doesn't mean the whole thing should be modelled after a fantasy world, otherwise what was the point or playing with gravity and such? 01:22 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Yes. Let's do it. 01:22 jordan4ibanez WELL! Water is pretty much jello already 01:22 sdzen yes 01:22 NotReallyNick Gravity is a necessary evil. It makes the game playable. 01:22 * Menche can jump a dozen nodes high out of water 01:23 sdzen I would like it if we couldn't jump a meter 01:23 mauvebic as much as you bitch about pilzadam's changes, you're more set in your ways 01:23 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: unless you can swim at 20m/sec through water, it ain't exactly jell-o 01:23 sdzen hehe or at least can we change how big the nodes are? 01:24 jordan4ibanez I can swim at least 5 times faster than the player can damnit and I'm fat, the water is like Jellur! 01:24 VanessaE sdzen: not easily, but if jumping height is an issue, turn gravity up a little. 01:24 sdzen cause everytime I think about how large the blocks are compared with me jumping over them like nothing 01:24 NotReallyNick Actually, I'm thinking of the wrong thing. Lack of gravity is fine, it's lack of collision detection that is bad. SO permanent noclip is the enemy. 01:24 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: you can't swim at 20 meters/second. 01:24 sdzen its funny 01:24 jordan4ibanez OH I CAN 01:24 sdzen neither can the minetest person 01:24 sdzen :) 01:24 VanessaE BULLSHIT. 01:25 jordan4ibanez The minetest person swims at 0.001 ft/s 01:25 sdzen cant use feet 01:25 Exio what is ft? 01:25 Exio is what i think? 01:25 sdzen minetest is on the metric system 01:25 jordan4ibanez it's when you measure with your feet 01:25 Exio if yes, use a PROPER system :) 01:25 VanessaE the guness book of world records says the record holder "only" did about 2.29 meters/second. 01:25 Exio a logical system if possible 01:25 VanessaE Guiness* 01:25 VanessaE (whatever) 01:26 mauvebic dont mind if do 01:26 NotReallyNick Here's a question: How do we know Minetest is on the Metric system? While it should be, how do we know for sure that that is indeed the case? 01:26 * mauvebic beers 01:26 jordan4ibanez If we make it realistic, it will take an hour to get across a lake, when the player can still jump huge heights 01:26 VanessaE NotReallyNick: because it's generally been agreed, plus we know that minecraft is for sure. 01:26 sdzen VanessaE: I am not speaking of the games mechanics when jumping, I mean the actual size of a minetest block is 1 cubic meter 01:26 sdzen ergo 01:26 sdzen when you jump a block 01:26 NotReallyNick Minecraft is irrelevant. Agreed by who? 01:26 sdzen your jumping 3 ft in the air 01:26 Menche i think yards are more sensible 01:27 VanessaE sdzen: gravity directly affects how high you can jump. 01:27 Menche the player is 2 nodes high 01:27 VanessaE the player is about 2m high, with eyes at 1.5m 01:27 jordan4ibanez the player can jump 1.2 meters high 01:27 mauvebic speaking of which, any word if crouch is coming ? 01:27 Menche yard node: 6' meter node: 6.5' 01:27 Menche that's reeaally tall 01:27 jordan4ibanez and jump off of a 35 meter building xD 01:27 sdzen yes 01:27 * VanessaE is exactly 6 feet tall..... 01:28 sdzen and people are terrible jumpers 01:28 Menche not 6 feet 6 inches 01:28 VanessaE Menche: I am when I have my stilettos on ;) 01:28 jordan4ibanez Is there an on_collide for collision detection? 01:28 NotReallyNick * Manche thinks VanessaE is REALLY tall 01:28 sdzen 5' 4" 01:28 sdzen :) 01:28 VanessaE sdzen: shrimp :) 01:29 sdzen and 97 pounds 01:29 Menche and the player is 6' 6" 01:29 mauvebic 5'11" and 125lbs 01:29 jordan4ibanez The minetest player is fucking huge 01:29 VanessaE 6' and 380 pounds :-/ 01:29 mauvebic i run mostly on dilithium 01:29 Exio well people 01:29 mauvebic naw seriously, dont sleep, dont eat much 01:30 mauvebic even worse since i cut out the weed, ironically, on 4/20 lol 01:30 Exio i have an idea, can you start using a logic system for the stuff? why the hell the convertion is not just a *10 or similar like the metric system? 01:30 Menche well the tallest person in recorded history was 8' 11" 01:30 NakedFury minetest player could have been made three blocks tall and other possible races 2 or even smaller 01:30 jordan4ibanez We should make the player a little shorter to make the world appear bigger 01:31 mauvebic yeah cuz a 2 node high clearance means your practically got the POV from the ceiling 01:31 mauvebic *you 01:31 NakedFury yeah I agree on that 01:31 mauvebic and nodebox furniture always appears small even though a cubic meter is bigger for certain items 01:31 NakedFury its gonna be a pain if an even smaller player race is added. like gnomes 01:31 Menche based on the player's height, i think that yards make more sense 01:33 mauvebic "Automated System Developed To Grade Student Essays " because ianno, 2-3 months + sabbaticals aint enough for some teachers lol 01:44 jojoa1997|Tablet Pizadam update github 01:44 jojoa1997|Tablet For minites 01:46 kaeza join -> post 2 messages with 2 errors -> part 01:46 kaeza bravo jojo 01:47 rarkenin I must agree. I need punctuation to function. 01:48 Kacey lol 01:51 arsdragonfly I need a new font in minetest 01:51 NotReallyNick Me as well. 01:51 arsdragonfly the default one doesn't support Chinese 01:51 * VanessaE hands rarkenin a small bucket of punctuation. Here ya go, leftovers from jojoa ;) 01:51 rarkenin Thanks! 01:51 rarkenin Anyway, we should use the Ubuntu font. 01:52 NotReallyNick Ah, that would be a problem. I don't know how to add fonts though. 01:52 NotReallyNick Is the Ubuntu font available to non-Ubuntu systems? 01:52 Menche i use the ubuntu font on arch 01:52 arsdragonfly Is the Ubuntu one free-to-use? 01:52 Menche there's an official package for it in arch 01:53 NotReallyNick Does the Ubuntu font include Chinese? 01:53 arsdragonfly yes it does 01:53 jordan4ibanez Does the ubuntu font cast spells? 01:53 sdzen whats its license? 01:53 Menche ah, the ttf files in minetest/fonts 01:54 rarkenin The Ubuntu font is free to use on any OS. 01:54 Menche there a setting for which font to use? 01:54 rarkenin Ubuntu Font License. 01:54 sdzen now shut up :) 01:54 rarkenin It includes most characters that we would want. 01:54 sdzen and choose a real license 01:54 sdzen :) 01:54 Menche font_path 01:55 sdzen (I suppose I have to be a stickler for this since the people that normally whine about licensing seem to be sleeping) 01:55 Menche and font_size 01:55 NotReallyNick Spells? Why would a font cast a spell? 01:56 Exio VanessaE: random thing, i asked for 4gb*2 1600mhz-hyperx-kingston ram today, i should be able to know if i can get it tomorrow :D 01:57 jordan4ibanez Because fonts are MAGICAL 01:57 VanessaE not bad. How much? 01:58 NotReallyNick Magic isn't real. Even today, I proved that a certain magic trick isn't magic, it relies on five bit binary. 01:59 Exio if he can get it: 200 ARS / stick (38~ USD / stick) 01:59 Menche can't get the font_path setting to work :( 01:59 VanessaE well I guess that's okay-ish. 01:59 VanessaE a lot more than I paid, you really should look for more resources. 02:00 Menche oh, had it disabled :P 02:00 Menche suppose setting the font works best when you have font support compiled in 02:01 NotReallyNick Yeah, probably. 02:01 Menche had to update anyway 02:03 jordan4ibanez I think I went ocd overload with editing this episode, it took me an hour to decide if I should use two tracks of music or one 02:04 NotReallyNick Yeah, I know what you mean. 02:09 kaeza > Magic isn't real <--- you seriously need to revive your inner child man 02:09 Menche yay, got the ubuntu font working in minetest :D 02:10 Menche it's kind of difficult, you have to specify the full path to the .ttf file 02:11 Exio ? 02:11 Menche changing the font in minetest 02:11 Exio you copy the .ttf to %mthome%/fonts/ 02:11 Doc22 does anyone know how to make a ttf 02:11 Exio you change the value from "fonts/stuff" 02:11 Exio to "fonts/" 02:11 Exio ?? profit 02:11 Doc22 or do you need pricey programs 02:11 Exio it works for me 02:11 Menche i couldn't do that 02:11 Exio Doc22: you need l33tness 02:11 Doc22 thank you 02:12 Exio *for making it read-able* 02:12 Exio what 02:12 Menche i had to specify the full path to the ttf 02:12 Doc22 oh 02:12 Doc22 ... 02:12 Doc22 u trolled me 02:12 Doc22 all im getting is a gaming term 02:13 Exio Doc22: http://goo.gl/IuUnk 02:13 Doc22 never heard of l33tness 02:13 jordan4ibanez WAIT 02:13 jordan4ibanez Wait a second 02:14 Doc22 ive tried that once a long time ago and i got a bunch of crap 02:14 jordan4ibanez hold the boop on 02:14 jordan4ibanez we can change the font, and font size 02:14 Doc22 lol i love lmgtfy 02:14 jordan4ibanez and NO ONE made a menu setting for it 02:14 jordan4ibanez klndglkadfjhlhr 02:15 Exio jordan4ibanez: 99.99% of the things NEED to be changed in the .conf 02:15 Doc22 hello jordan 02:15 Exio AND YES, NOBODY DID THE FANCY-MENU THINGY 02:15 * Menche loves the Ubuntu fonts 02:15 jordan4ibanez WHY 02:15 Doc22 and no* 02:15 Doc22 :3 02:15 * sdzen loves liberation 02:15 Doc22 i like ubuntu fonts too 02:15 jordan4ibanez There should be menu objects for everything :'( 02:15 Doc22 soo smoooth 02:15 Exio jordan4ibanez: because nobody coded that, if you want that, code the stuff 02:15 sdzen there should be menu objects for menu objects 02:16 jordan4ibanez I WILL! When the client side lua coding for the main menu comes in :3 02:16 sdzen wait! 02:16 Doc22 make a change 02:16 Doc22 then request a puch 02:16 Menche it would be a bit of a pain currently, as not all systems will have the fonts in the same place, probably 02:16 Doc22 push 02:16 sdzen you should be able to edit the conf from the menu 02:16 jordan4ibanez Exactly 02:16 jordan4ibanez There should be a lua section for the main menu 02:16 jordan4ibanez so people can make custom menus 02:16 Exio sdzen: i think there should be a "tab" called advanced with a small and shitty integrated editor 02:17 Exio jordan4ibanez: code it 02:17 NakedFury im all for voting FOR including all menu and configuration things inside the games menu 02:17 jordan4ibanez Exio: teach me c++ 02:17 Exio if it were easy someone would've coded that 02:17 sdzen hehe 02:17 jordan4ibanez No: No one thought of it 02:17 * sdzen has been thinking it for about a year 02:17 * sdzen never told anyone 02:17 NotReallyNick Everyone thought of that particular ides though. 02:17 jordan4ibanez fak u sdzen 02:17 NotReallyNick *idea 02:18 NotReallyNick So many people want an in-game settings page. 02:18 NotReallyNick It's not that no one thought of it. 02:19 sdzen jordan4ibanez: 1.)your mother beat me to it. 2.) you should win the MSPAINT challenge on the forums, your entry was amazing. 02:19 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/546 02:19 rarkenin Wouldn't it require a ton of lengthy reloading, which we're trying to avoid in thr first place? 02:19 jordan4ibanez OH GOSH 02:20 jordan4ibanez I love the in game settings 02:20 sdzen how lengthy is restarting the entire game compared with reloading rarkenin 02:20 sdzen ? 02:20 Exio the same time? 02:20 jordan4ibanez sdzen, I dare you to ask a hot girl out on a date, and talk about your mother the whole time 02:20 jordan4ibanez Exio NO 02:21 rarkenin Well, there's the unexplained freeze after getting stuff from the server, but before anything actually renders. 02:21 jordan4ibanez sometimes minetest hangs like a bitch 02:21 kaeza Menche, use Webdings 02:21 kaeza :trollface: 02:21 sdzen now if only I didn't fall for the crazy ocd girls :) 02:21 rarkenin On the first placenode, it hangs. It also hangs on the first dignode. MEsh update queue error? 02:21 Exio jordan4ibanez: http://goo.gl/HhUzP 02:22 sdzen who I actually could talk about my mother the whole time and they would find it interesting 02:22 sdzen (and I have a reputation of boring people to the brink of insanity) 02:22 jordan4ibanez Exio: http://goo.gl/Yhkw1 02:23 rarkenin Good night! 02:23 Exio < Location: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=teach+me+it+%20+%20+%20+%20+%20also+your+mother 02:23 Exio lol 02:23 NotReallyNick Good night. 02:23 sdzen good night! 02:23 Exio good night 02:23 jordan4ibanez Good day. 02:24 sdzen jordan4ibanez: is it true rhode islanders taste like chicken? 02:24 sdzen or do they have a more gamey taste 02:24 jordan4ibanez I could have made a dirty joke right there which would have gotten me kicked, but yes 02:25 jordan4ibanez Do you vermonters taste like maple syrup? 02:25 sdzen no we taste like milk :P 02:25 sdzen and bones 02:27 NotReallyNick You cannibals. 02:28 sdzen oh don't pretend you haven't wanted a bite as well! 02:28 NotReallyNick Yet one more group of people I will never understand. 02:28 NotReallyNick No. No, I haven't. 02:29 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/542 02:29 jordan4ibanez THIS 02:29 sdzen lets see... people taste like veal, it solves over population, civic disputes are resolved quickly, it solves the hunger crisis 02:29 jordan4ibanez items should be dropped as 1 item each, and when you hold shift you can throw the whole stack 02:29 jordan4ibanez wouldn't that make more sense? it's like a DURRRR moment 02:30 NotReallyNick Okay. So cannibalism is a good thing. Duly noted. 02:30 jordan4ibanez Today I learned sdzen is a zombie 02:31 sdzen not a zombie 02:31 sdzen an alien 02:31 sdzen from planet clair 02:31 sdzen claire* 02:31 NotReallyNick No, I don't think shift should alter the number of things you drop. That's easy enough to do with the formspec. Hold an item stack and right click outside the formspec to drop a single item fron the stack. 02:31 sdzen no one ever dies there 02:31 sdzen no one has a head 02:31 sdzen all the trees are red 02:32 NotReallyNick That sounds like a lovely planet. I would one day like the chance to visit. 02:32 jordan4ibanez Well notreallynick, what if you have itemdrop, your friend is next to you, you need to throw a stack of it to him, but that instant? 02:32 NotReallyNick If I come, to I get to avoid death too? 02:32 jordan4ibanez hmmmmm? 02:33 sdzen only if you bring some polish for the guillotine 02:33 sdzen its getting rather tarnished 02:33 NotReallyNick For starters, item_drop is annoying as heck. If you add that, it's your own responsibility to compensate. So pull to item_drop, not minetest. 02:33 NotReallyNick Okay. Polish it is. 02:34 NotReallyNick Sounds like a small price to pay for immortality. 02:34 jordan4ibanez What? What if you need to give a person 3 of the 99 blocks in your stack and that instant? there are so many scenarios which this will be useful 02:34 sdzen NotReallyNick: I think he means dropping a stack, not picking it up, you would still click it like you do now 02:34 NotReallyNick Then use the formspec right click three times. 02:34 jordan4ibanez what if you need to activate 3 mesecons pistons with a stack of 3 in quick sessesion? 02:35 NotReallyNick I know. 02:35 sdzen click hard and fast 02:35 jordan4ibanez What if you're dropping gold and diamonds down to the people who are in your town square? 02:35 NotReallyNick It's as quick from the formspec as it is while holding shift. 02:35 jordan4ibanez So many uses which I can think of, it's making my head spin 02:36 NotReallyNick And all those uses can be done from the formspec. 02:36 jordan4ibanez but, notreallynick, it's not about what can be done, it's about ease of use, and that there is an easier way that can be easily changed in the default game 02:37 NotReallyNick What if you are holding shift to avoid falling, and you want to drop the whole stack? 02:38 jordan4ibanez then you can press the button fast 02:38 jordan4ibanez BUT 02:38 jordan4ibanez you don't have to go into your forumspec to do so 02:38 jordan4ibanez what if you are holding shift to avoid falling and need to drop 1 item? 02:39 jordan4ibanez without the change? you're fucked! 02:39 NotReallyNick That drops 99 entities. Bad idea, you'll overload the area and delete the items. Then the other person has to pick up 99 entities as well. It's all around a bad situation. 02:39 jordan4ibanez 99 entities don't get deleted, it's 250+ 02:39 jordan4ibanez just use tnt and you'll find that out! 02:40 NotReallyNick You still have to pick up 99, one at a time. 02:40 sdzen and wouldnt it be a stack? 02:40 sdzen so only one 02:40 jordan4ibanez So what? if you are in a scenario which you need to, you'll do it :P 02:40 NotReallyNick Not if you drop 99 one at a time like jordan4ibanez was sugesting. 02:41 NotReallyNick And if you are in a situation without the change, you'll do what you need to. 02:41 jordan4ibanez I think the positives of my side of the argument outweight the negatives of your side of the argument 02:41 NotReallyNick No, the shift thing is just inconsistent. 02:41 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Fv_HtzPLg, i wouldnt be so afraid of amount of items 02:41 NotReallyNick How about if it's a config setting, per client? 02:42 RealBadAngel this is important only when unloading area, so more cannot be stored just 02:42 NotReallyNick RealBadAngel: I'm worried about number you need to pick up as well. It's annoying to pick up 99 items one at a time. 02:42 jordan4ibanez It is very consistant 02:42 jordan4ibanez cool rba! 02:43 RealBadAngel NotReallyNick, use item_drop(pickup) mod then 02:43 NotReallyNick item_drop is even worse! 02:43 jordan4ibanez Not my version 02:43 kaeza jordan4ibanez, +1 02:43 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, what your version? 02:43 jordan4ibanez want to try it? it has a special timer which allows you to throw down items and not pick them up instantly 02:44 NotReallyNick item_drop and hunger are the two most annoying plugins made for the game. 02:44 kaeza re: able to drop a single item 02:44 jordan4ibanez it also has a detection, if you are higher than the item, you don't pick it up 02:44 jordan4ibanez helpful for mining, throwing items into a garbage 02:44 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, link, link :) 02:44 jordan4ibanez okay hang on a sec 02:45 RealBadAngel im getting annoyed a bit not being able to throw away anythin ;) 02:45 NotReallyNick If it weren't for the item_drop feature built in, I'd probably have technic in my private world. 02:46 RealBadAngel its PilzAdam's mod, i included it with technic because of lasers and drills 02:47 RealBadAngel it looks way better when beam leaves items on the ground instead adding multiple collects at once into inv 02:47 kaeza NotReallyNick, fun fact: you can disable item_drop(pickup) 02:47 NotReallyNick The same goes for one of Traxie's plugins. It add cool stuff, but the built in item_drop makes it too annoying to be worth using. item_drop is already a seperate plugin, why does it need to be built into other plugins as well? 02:48 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/config.lua 02:48 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/7neofth4sdao8ke/item_drop.zip?token_hash=AAF0emdgAc8jkLLl2oTcthz8tEB_r6LEldAH1IlSeYj7YA&dl=1 02:49 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, thx. btw cannon is cool 02:49 jordan4ibanez technic conflicts with item_drop though 02:49 NotReallyNick kaeza: Disabling item_drop in these plugins requires remembering to edit the files every time I update. If it was a conf setting, it would be fine, but having a configuration file within the plugin itself is just plain sloppy. 02:49 jordan4ibanez and thank you! 02:49 RealBadAngel NotReallyNick, check the link above, and set both item_ to false 02:50 VanessaE RealBadAngel: he makes a good point, config files should be stored outside the mod. 02:50 kaeza NotReallyNick, edit .gitignore, add config.lua, ???, profit 02:50 RealBadAngel i will go different way 02:50 RealBadAngel mod itself will have configuration GUI. 02:50 NotReallyNick RealBadAngel: That config is within the plugin, meaning I have to remember to edit it every time I update. Config files withing the plugin are just sloppy. If it was in minetest.conf, it would be fine. 02:50 RealBadAngel as UI plugin 02:51 kaeza maybe something like this can be included in default? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-survival_modpack/blob/master/survival_lib/config.lua 02:52 RealBadAngel and the config file will be stored within your world's folder 02:52 NotReallyNick Okay, that would be a lot better, with or without the GUI. 02:52 RealBadAngel so update will not erase it 02:52 NotReallyNick Thank you! 02:53 Exio omfg 02:53 VanessaE nice 02:53 Exio i just had a FPS drop when killing grunts in RE 02:53 Exio from 90 FPS to 3 02:53 Exio just a blood-overflow xD 02:53 kaeza the gore level is OVER NINE THOUSAND!! 02:54 kaeza meh 02:54 Exio :D yeah 02:54 Exio legs everywhere 02:54 jordan4ibanez hey, could gamemodes have .conf files? or is this already something? 02:54 NotReallyNick Over 9000 what? Please include a unit of measure. 02:54 jordan4ibanez 9000ML! 02:54 NotReallyNick Yes, they have minetest.conf s in game modes already. 02:55 sdzen 9000 exobytes 02:55 kaeza NotReallyNick, not sure if trolling or asking legit question 02:56 sdzen goodbye random creatures of the day 02:56 NotReallyNick Without a unit of measure, numbers are meaningless. 02:56 sdzen without time, we are meaningless 02:56 NotReallyNick But we have time. 02:56 sdzen without us units of measure are meaningless 02:56 Exio exiobytes? :D 02:57 sdzen and time doesn't actually exist 02:57 sdzen look it up 02:57 kaeza NotReallyNick, http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-over-9000 02:57 jordan4ibanez realbadangel, if I give you the cannon mod for you to include in technic, you should give me credit. :P 02:57 sdzen time is mathematically impossible 02:57 NotReallyNick kaeza: Memes are no excuse for meaningless statements. 02:58 kaeza NotReallyNick, lacking humor is no excuse to be an asshole 02:58 * NotReallyNick 's game is royally messed up 02:58 NotReallyNick I don't lack hummor. 02:58 NotReallyNick Also, I don't think I'm being an ass hole. 02:59 jordan4ibanez WELL you're acting like one! Lighten up! 02:59 NotReallyNick I'm not acting like one. 02:59 NotReallyNick Also, I'm about as loose as I can be, considering the due date of the homework I'm working on. 03:00 jordan4ibanez Then don't Internet mad. 03:00 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, theres plenty of space inside technic modpack, youre welcome :) 03:00 * RealBadAngel is off to work 03:01 NotReallyNick I'm not mad in any way, I've just never liked memes. Memes tend to make little to no sense, and are almost never actually funny. 03:02 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/OnNDBr2.gif 03:02 * NotReallyNick needs to fix his minetest.conf 03:02 jordan4ibanez peace realbadangel 03:04 * NotReallyNick considers 9000 mL of gore to be more than he can stomach 03:04 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/MDRw2.gif 03:05 Exio NotReallyNick: the funny thing of the memes is the "nonsense" of them 03:05 jordan4ibanez This is how I feel when new users post shit http://i.imgur.com/qUrIF.gif 03:06 Exio i'm going to sleep, good night 03:07 kaeza nite Exio 03:07 Exio :P 03:09 NotReallyNick enable_fog = false 03:09 NotReallyNick show_debug = true 03:09 NotReallyNick There we go. Perfect! 03:10 jordan4ibanez why didn't you just hit f5 and f2 03:10 NotReallyNick I get tired of hitting F2 and F5 EVERY time I log in. 03:11 NotReallyNick There should really be a setting in minetest.conf that does that automatically. Oh wait, there is. 03:12 NotReallyNick I agree with whoever set it up that fog should be on by default. But if I'm going to disable it every time I log in, it might as well disable itself. 03:13 NotReallyNick Most users do better with fog though, I imagine. 03:13 NotReallyNick It hides the jagged edges of the world. 03:14 Menche what's the difference between disabling fog and enabling full viewing range? 03:14 NotReallyNick Disabling fog still has a veiw limit. Full range does not. 03:14 NotReallyNick *view 03:15 NotReallyNick So with full range, your FPS takes a huge hit. 03:15 NotReallyNick With fog disabled, it looks better and is easier on your machine than fog on. 03:15 Menche oh, so distant blocks still aren't displayed, but aren't fogged out 03:15 NotReallyNick Correct. 03:15 kaeza Menche, /teleport -30000,0,0 then /teleport 30000,0,0 03:16 kaeza turn on full range and you can see from one edge of the world to the other 03:18 NotReallyNick It looks like with the new setup, I only need to set four setting from minetest.conf on my laptop. Everything else is set from the GUI, set from the game's minetest.conf, or not needing to be set. 03:20 NotReallyNick I like these jungle trees. I just have to find a jungle sapling in my server world now. 03:20 sokomine where is the list of servers one connected to stored? 03:20 NotReallyNick I spwan in a jungle on my local world. 03:20 NotReallyNick I'll look. Hold on. 03:21 NotReallyNick minetest/client/serverlist/favoriteservers.txt 03:22 NotReallyNick Does anyone know where in the code a "random" seed is chosen? 03:23 kaeza jordan4ibanez, http://cheezburger.com/7204465408 03:24 jordan4ibanez kaeza http://i.imgur.com/vuI5f.gif 03:24 kaeza lol 03:25 sokomine aah. thank you 03:27 VanessaE damn how I wish nodes could have simple vector models 03:27 jordan4ibanez How does the new video intro style feel? 03:27 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/FG1QLcf7cew 03:29 NotReallyNick VanessaE: I was going to add jungle grass to top cactus after it grows to its max height. Does that sound like a good idea, or am I just nuts as usual? 03:30 arsdragonfly| Hey guys how can I set my font path? 03:31 NotReallyNick Sorry, I don't know. 03:31 VanessaE my junglegrass mod does that already :) 03:31 VanessaE (or it's supposed to....) 03:31 arsdragonfly| The example in minetest.conf.example seems to be broken 03:31 NotReallyNick Yeah, but I'm trying to add it to default. Though I guess that answers the question. If you already do it, you must not think its nuts. 03:32 arsdragonfly| or what's the global variable of minetest directory v 03:32 arsdragonfly| *? 03:32 Menche arsdragonfly|: is freetype support compiled in? 03:32 arsdragonfly| yes 03:32 Menche and, the font_path needs the complete path to the ttf file 03:32 Menche mine was in /usr/share/fonts/TTF 03:33 arsdragonfly| the example just says /fonts/*** 03:33 Menche fonts/[whatever] didn't work for me 03:33 sokomine why does it grow on cactus? does it do so rl? 03:33 Menche in 0.3.x, junglegrass grew on top of cactus 03:33 arsdragonfly| can i add a varible before that? 03:33 NotReallyNick That's where I got the idea, Menche. 03:33 Menche i don't know, i have it set to the full path and it works 03:34 sokomine there is an alternate font vanessae supplied some time ago. i always forget how it was named :-( 03:34 arsdragonfly| a global variable which stands for the minetest directory 03:34 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4436 03:34 VanessaE sokomine: ^^ 03:35 VanessaE fontlucida.png and fontdejavusansmono.png 03:35 Menche VanessaE: that's for the old irrlicht font maps 03:35 VanessaE Menche: yup, which I still use because ttf support has no shadowing behind the text 03:35 Menche the new freetype fonts are completely different 03:35 VanessaE (it works in 0.4.6) 03:36 jordan4ibanez minetest.net's banner is slightly lighter, very pleasing to the eye 03:37 Menche my font_path is set to /usr/share/fonts/TTF/Ubuntu-R.ttf 03:37 * NotReallyNick likes seeing his server at the top of the server list, and would see it there more often if the servers were alphabetized by address 03:40 * Menche doesn't get why his server isn't on the list 03:41 NotReallyNick Have you set the right settings in minetest.conf? 03:42 NotReallyNick server_announce = true 03:42 sokomine hmm. how do i use the new build/survival versions? 03:42 sokomine and - where does the server list come from? havn't seen it in any of my builds yet 03:42 NotReallyNick Start a new world, and chose build or survival as the game mode. 03:42 Menche the relevant section from my config file: http://pastebin.com/m4i18hqU 03:43 NotReallyNick The server list is busted in Windows. ☺ 03:43 Menche any idea? 03:43 NotReallyNick Menche: Did you compile it with cURL? 03:43 Menche yes 03:43 sokomine oh. the server-list is windows-only? sounds strange 03:43 NotReallyNick No idea then .... That should work ..... 03:44 NotReallyNick No, the server list is Linux only. 03:44 mauvebic is there a mod that uses the new particle spawner? 03:44 NotReallyNick I don't know. 03:44 NotReallyNick sokomine: So you are on Linux? 03:45 mauvebic hmm, guess ill be one of the first then :P 5 documentaries later and titanic is coming along nice :-) 03:45 Menche debian has libcurl3 and libcurl4, and openssl and gnutls versions 03:46 NotReallyNick sokomine: If you are on Linux, don't use the official build. It's buggy. Compile it yourself. 03:46 Menche which does minetest need? 03:46 NotReallyNick I'll check. Hold on. 03:46 NotReallyNick libcurl4-openssl-dev 03:47 VanessaE sokomine: amd64 ubuntu by chance? :) 03:47 Menche and that's the one i have 03:47 sokomine hmm. where do i find the server list? the "official" one i mean (not the local one - that could be copied thanks to notreallynick) 03:47 Menche servers.minetest.net 03:47 NotReallyNick http://servers.minetest.net/ 03:48 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Is there an error in AMD64 Ubuntu Minetest? 03:48 sokomine vanessae: ...not without switching kernel etc. to 64 bit, no. the cpu could do it. i really need to buy an ssd.... 03:48 VanessaE NotReallyNick: not that I know of; I was going to suggest trying my build is all. 03:48 NotReallyNick Oh, got it. Good, because my laptop is AMD64 Ubuntu. 03:48 sokomine mauvebic: how about the weather mod? that creates rain and snow? doesn't that use the new particles? 03:48 VanessaE sokomine: if you have an amd64-capable computer, you should run the amd64 build of Ubuntu. it works perfectly fine now. 03:49 VanessaE (I use 12.04) 03:49 Menche how many people are providing builds? 03:49 Menche i think at least 3 03:49 Menche not including the official ones 03:49 NotReallyNick I'm told 12.10 isn't very popular. 03:49 sokomine notreallynick: i just compiled the newest version from https://github.com/minetest 03:49 mauvebic hmm, what happen to doc lua api.txt? cant find it :/ lol 03:49 VanessaE pilzadam, thexyz, sfan5, me, one or two others also 03:49 NotReallyNick Okay. I don't know why it won't show up then. 03:49 mauvebic weather uses particle spawner? ill check that out cuz its not documented in the pages im finding 03:49 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81560#p81560 03:49 VanessaE here's mine, built it just now. 03:50 sokomine aah. so the serverlist is not inbuild but has to be downloaded from minetest.net? 03:50 VanessaE sokomine: yep 03:51 NotReallyNick Yeah, but downloaded by the game itself, so it's an in-game list. 03:51 sokomine no, i run debian 32 bit 03:51 NotReallyNick I can't get Minetest running well on Debian. 03:51 Menche go to the multiplayer tab and select "show public" 03:52 sokomine and how do you make the game download the list? 03:52 NotReallyNick Although RealBadAngel uses Debian, and has no issues with Minetest. 03:52 Menche my minetest server runs fine on debian 03:52 NotReallyNick My server runs fine on Debian, but not the client. Also not the server's NIC. 03:52 Menche sokomine, it downloads it when you click "show public" 03:52 sokomine er...perhaps i'm blind :( can't find a "show public" there? 03:52 Menche on the multiplayer tab? 03:53 Menche should say either "show public" or "show favorites" 03:53 NotReallyNick I don't think it shows up if not compiled with cURL. 03:53 NotReallyNick Did you compile with cURL? 03:53 sokomine it does run well on debian. the only real trouble is identifying all the packages you need to compile and run it. once you've got those installed it works fine (apart from crashes here and there, but that seems to happen to all people now and then) 03:54 NotReallyNick Install libcurl4-openssl-dev. 03:54 sokomine hmm. maybe i missed curl? 03:54 NotReallyNick Then compile Minetest again. 03:54 jordan4ibanez The most beautiful song ever http://youtu.be/uiPJHbsYuq8 03:54 sokomine fine, thanks. building will work relatively fast 03:54 Menche when you run cmake, one of the lines of output should be "-- CURL_INCLUDE_DIR = /usr/include/curl" 03:55 Menche and "-- cURL support enabled" 03:56 sokomine i didn't watch the cmake output that closely 03:56 Menche heey, mine finally decided to announce to the server list 03:56 NotReallyNick Try "sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev". 03:56 Menche lets see if it actually shows up 03:56 * sokomine congratulates the server :-) 03:56 NotReallyNick Menche: Yay! 03:56 Menche yep, it's up :D 03:57 NotReallyNick Yep, I see it. 03:57 Menche and at the very bottom... 03:57 sokomine already working on that in the background 03:57 arsdragonfly Does the Show Public and Show Favourite buttons show up if i build minetest without cURL? 03:57 NotReallyNick I don't think so. 03:58 sokomine without curl, i see only "Favorites:" and the list where every server i connect to is stored 03:58 Menche my client seems to freeze for a second or two as it downloads the list 03:58 NotReallyNick Yeah, it does that. 03:58 NotReallyNick I'm the first in your world through the list! 03:59 NotReallyNick Nice sideway lilipads. 03:59 NotReallyNick *sideways 03:59 NotReallyNick *lily pads 03:59 sokomine compiling.... 04:01 * NotReallyNick found a ton of dropped vines 04:01 Menche yeah, i was experimenting with making them decay 04:01 Menche got the wrong node name 04:01 Menche i'll have to look at the vines mod closer 04:02 arsdragonfly compiling... 04:02 NotReallyNick You should update plant life too, if you haven't already. 04:03 Menche ssh connection is laaaaggggyyy 04:04 * Menche is on a cell data connection 04:04 NotReallyNick I know, it is for me too, even within the same LAN network. 04:04 * Menche isn't even going to try joining the server 04:04 NotReallyNick Oh, I'm not on a phone though. 04:04 Menche when i connect my phone to my computer, it creates a new network interface 04:04 Menche so i can use the cell data from my laptop 04:05 Menche was sorta surprised that Apple made something that works OOTB on linux 04:06 Menche was expecting some silly proprietary interface 04:06 NotReallyNick Why? Apple actually follows standards. 04:06 Menche like their usb cables? 04:07 NotReallyNick What's different with their USB cabbles? 04:07 Menche that's not really standard, plus they just changed it so you need to buy new ones :P 04:07 NotReallyNick *cables 04:07 Menche the end that goes into the phone 04:09 Menche wooo, my server just jumped up 4 spots on the list :D 04:09 Menche how is the list ordered anyway? 04:09 NotReallyNick It's sorted based on number of curent players. 04:10 Menche so, if i keep a bunch of bots on all the time... 04:10 NotReallyNick Exactly. 04:10 Menche or, easier, hack it to report the wrong number 04:10 NotReallyNick rarkenin was discussing that earlier. 04:10 Menche meh, have better things to do with my time 04:11 NotReallyNick Me too. 04:11 Menche than fudge the server list 04:11 NotReallyNick I'm just happy to be ON the list, myself. 04:11 Menche i have *no* idea why it wasn't working for me earlier 04:12 mauvebic cant find any documentation on particlespawner :/ 04:12 NotReallyNick I hate it when there is no apparent change, but the problem goes away. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT FIXED IT! 04:12 VanessaE heh 04:13 NotReallyNick If I don't know what the problem was, how can I prevent it or fix it nex time? 04:13 Menche i am 90% sure nothing was changed from the last time i restarted it 04:14 Menche could it have caught servers.minetest.net at the wrong time? 04:14 mauvebic ok found some stuff in the pull comments 04:15 Menche i notice i have the 3rd worst ping of any of the servers 04:16 NotReallyNick Aw. I have the worst. 04:16 VanessaE no, looks like I do now 04:16 Menche which just means that we're far away from russia 04:16 VanessaE no I don't. 04:17 Menche it appears to be hosted from minetest.ru? 04:17 VanessaE dunno 04:18 NotReallyNick Menche: Do you have some sort of free stuff place I could drop all these vines off at? 04:18 Menche wait, the IP looks like it's in germany 04:18 Menche NotReallyNick, they aren't really useful for much, you could just pulverize 04:18 Menche but i guess you could drop them in the chest behind the city hall desk if you must keep them 04:19 Menche they are certainly plenty renewable too, i have 2 full stacks 04:19 NotReallyNick If no one has a use for them though .... Although I never /pulverize. I'll make a chest somewhere and hide it. 04:20 Menche they can be used to craft ropeboxes 04:20 Menche i think that's the only use 04:20 kaeza offtopic: anyone knows if there's a tool to batch-copy files from a directory to another preserving relative paths? 04:20 NotReallyNick Oh, awesom. They're those vines. 04:20 NotReallyNick *Awesome 04:20 NotReallyNick Yeah. 04:20 NotReallyNick cp -r will do it, I think. 04:21 kaeza err...move rather 04:21 Menche mv? 04:21 NotReallyNick mv 04:21 kaeza mv will overwrite the dirs no? 04:21 kaeza hmm 04:22 NotReallyNick Oh, I think I get what you mean. I don't think mv deletes anything, it will merge the two directories. I think. 04:22 kaeza ah that's exactly what I wanted! 04:22 kaeza thanks :) 04:22 NotReallyNick TEST IT FIRST. 04:23 NotReallyNick Or look it up. 04:23 * Menche would verify on a less importand dir, of course 04:23 Menche yes 04:23 kaeza too late :P 04:23 kaeza I already merged 04:23 Menche important* 04:23 * NotReallyNick is done gathering vines for now 04:24 NotReallyNick Let me rephrase: 04:24 * NotReallyNick is not really going to gather any more vines today 04:24 Menche is there a way to let something decay *without* dumping it's drops on the ground? 04:25 NotReallyNick Is the drop different than the node itself? 04:25 Menche yes 04:25 NotReallyNick Hold on. I;ll write you something. 04:26 NotReallyNick Actually, I sort of assumed something. 04:26 NotReallyNick Are you wanting it similar to leaf decay? 04:27 Menche yeah 04:27 sokomine menche: connected to your server but framerate is extremly low. perhaps i forgot to deactivate shaders.... 04:27 Menche i'll look at the leaves code, they don't drop leaves when they decay 04:28 kaeza umm no 04:28 kaeza mv didn't work 04:28 kaeza # man mv 04:28 NotReallyNick Menche: copy the leaf decay function, but remove lines 76 - 86. 04:29 Menche i need a custom leafdecay function? 04:29 Menche so how does it decide whether or not to drop something? 04:30 kaeza hrm... 04:30 NotReallyNick It drops it if it isn't the nod itself, but if you remove those lines, it drops nothing every time. 04:30 Menche default:leaves doesn't have a 'rarity' option 04:30 kaeza I think I will have to write a shell script myself 04:31 NotReallyNick Pastebin your custom code, and I'll tell you what lines to delete. 04:32 Menche or i could just have them drop themselves 04:32 NotReallyNick That would work. 04:32 Menche and make a 'vines' group to use for ropebox crafting 04:32 NotReallyNick But then when people dig them, they'll get the nod itself. 04:32 NotReallyNick Okay. 04:32 NotReallyNick *node 04:32 Menche so then they could be used for decoration also 04:32 Menche or a ladder alternative 04:33 NotReallyNick I would actually prefer placable vines, but wasn't sure you would. 04:33 Menche yeah, the plain craftitem is pretty useless 04:33 Menche you only need so many ropeboxes, and it's only 2 vines 04:35 Menche of course, they would need to be close to a tree trunk to be used for decor 04:35 NotReallyNick True. Just like using leaves for decor. 04:36 Menche on the "decaying apples" thread, someone mentioned using param2 to store if the node was placed or generated 04:36 Menche maybe could use that so placed vines don't decay 04:36 NotReallyNick Yeah. PilzAdam said that. 04:36 Menche and while i'm at it i could make normal leaves like that too 04:37 NotReallyNick Okay. That would be nice. 04:37 * Menche remembers houses built of leaves back in the 0.3.x days 04:38 Menche now if my ssh connections wouldn't time out all the time 04:40 * NotReallyNick finally understands why water rots leaves in Minetest 04:43 VanessaE leaves rot near water? 04:43 VanessaE I never noticed that before.... 04:44 NotReallyNick Leaves need air or water to rot. If enclosed in, for example, glass, they do not rot. 04:44 VanessaE oh you mean leaf decay. 04:44 NotReallyNick Yeah. 04:44 VanessaE my leaf decay code just looks for proximity of leaves to their respective trunks 04:45 NotReallyNick So unlike the default, it doesn't check for air? 04:45 VanessaE nope. 04:45 VanessaE didn't seem to be any reason to do otherwise. 04:46 NotReallyNick Yeah, you're probably right. 04:46 NotReallyNick Why does moretrees have a custom leaf decay? 04:47 VanessaE because default leaf decay sucks :) 04:47 VanessaE plus default leaf decay doesn't cover moretrees' leaves 04:47 NotReallyNick In what way? I don't know much about leaf decay. 04:47 VanessaE it's slow 04:47 NotReallyNick Also, it uses group:leaves, so it COULD cover moretrees if you let it. 04:47 VanessaE (as in it's a CPU hog) 04:48 NotReallyNick And group:tree. 04:48 VanessaE exactly. 04:48 VanessaE I wanted each leaf type to be directly associated with their respective trunks 04:48 NotReallyNick I'm not saying you should use the default, just that not covering moretrees is an invalid argument. 04:48 NotReallyNick OH! That makes sense. 04:49 VanessaE why should sequoia leaves be able to survive next to a pine :-) 04:49 NotReallyNick True enough. 05:53 mauvebic bizarre, why does 0.4.6 change the map flags from map meta? 06:12 * mauvebic starts bonfire 06:21 * kaeza brings marshmallows 06:23 * VanessaE grabs a box of graham crackers and chocolate 06:23 mauvebic i may have noticed a bug 06:23 VanessaE oh G*d, not a bug! 06:23 NotReallyNick In? 06:23 VanessaE say it ain't so! 06:23 mauvebic lol 06:24 VanessaE :) 06:24 mauvebic well i compiled 046 with drun=1, 06:24 mauvebic copied the map and game of mine 06:24 VanessaE I saw that. 06:24 mauvebic and the map_meta.txt was completely overwritten :S 06:24 VanessaE it happens on my map too 06:24 mauvebic just once or ? 06:24 VanessaE oh, well not the map_meta.txt part, but the part of invisible light sources 06:25 mauvebic good thing i tested :P suddenly found myself with new chunks of vanilla-style map 06:25 mauvebic is it because i was missing the two lines that the whole file was overwritten? 06:25 NotReallyNick What does your map usually look like? 06:25 mauvebic flat 06:25 mauvebic seed was changed too 06:25 NotReallyNick Ah, got it. 06:25 VanessaE mauvebic: now, that said 06:26 VanessaE when the majority of the mapgen rework got committed, my map broke too 06:26 VanessaE chunks being generated that were definitely not from the seed I'd been using before. 06:26 VanessaE so since the rest of the map was kinda crappy, I used that as an excuse to re-format my world 06:26 VanessaE (and copy everything over structure by structure) 06:26 mauvebic my wife would kill me 06:26 mauvebic i spawn ships, she legit-builds lol 06:27 VanessaE heh 06:27 VanessaE oh NOW it's legit building versus what you do ;) 06:27 mauvebic well she does houses and stuff and how many meshes of those are laying around lol 06:27 NotReallyNick ☺ 06:27 VanessaE you coulda bit my head off the other day when I asked how much of your recent structures were spawned via worldedit ;) 06:27 mauvebic none cuz i dont use worldedit :p 06:27 VanessaE s/the other day/a while back/ 06:28 mauvebic though using worledit to fill a wall area is still legit in my books 06:28 mauvebic binvox took the un-legit to a new level lol 06:28 VanessaE heh 06:28 VanessaE I never said it wasn't legit ;) 06:28 mauvebic buuut... how do i maintain my seed and flags? 06:28 VanessaE I guess restore map_meta.txt from a backup 06:29 VanessaE or let it get re-written and then plug in the old data 06:29 mauvebic do you think it was overwritten because it was missing two mgv6_ lines? 06:29 VanessaE I dunno 06:29 VanessaE wish hmmmm were here, he'd know 06:29 mauvebic lemme try something, ill copy the apple_trees and humidty lines over to the map, THEN copy it to new minetest and start that up, see what happens 06:30 VanessaE worth a try 06:30 NotReallyNick Hmmmm. If only there where some way to get hmmmm's attention .... 06:30 VanessaE NotReallyNick: he's not in channel. 06:30 VanessaE [04-05 01:51] * hmmmm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 06:30 mauvebic the compiler cursed at me too :( 06:30 NotReallyNick Hmmmm. So it doesn't work across channels? Too bad. 06:31 VanessaE nope 06:31 VanessaE and he's not -dev either. 06:31 NotReallyNick It was a joke. Of course it wouldn't work .... 06:31 VanessaE he probably went off to bed. 06:31 NotReallyNick Yeah. 06:35 mauvebic thats it 06:35 mauvebic the file got overwritten because of the missing lines 06:35 VanessaE you better file a bug report on it then 06:35 VanessaE this'll hit others too 06:35 VanessaE and I bet you dollars to donuts that's what happened on my old map, too 06:35 mauvebic seed is same, flags are the same 06:36 mauvebic because ofthe missing lines i bet the client thought the file was corrupt or something and just wrote a new one 06:36 NotReallyNick Hmmmm. Good thing I manually added a 0.4.6 map_meta.txt in order to add dungeons and jungles .... 06:36 mauvebic ill start by updating my post before it frightens anyone lol 06:40 mauvebic do i copy paste this into github or link to the post? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81583#p81583\ 06:40 VanessaE copy&paste 06:40 VanessaE in case your post gets moved or whatever. 06:41 mauvebic true day, anounce is in general, but bugs is in bugs :/ lol 06:41 mauvebic *true dat 06:43 mauvebic no one else posted on issue on it? i dont wanna dp 06:43 VanessaE dunno, better check 06:48 mauvebic apart from that and the lighting, new clients pretty fast 06:49 mauvebic spawned another titanic in no time 06:49 VanessaE yep, it moves like a rocket compared to 0.4.4 and prior 06:49 VanessaE you should see how it performs with luajit :-) 06:49 mauvebic i thought that was in? 06:49 VanessaE not yet. 06:50 mauvebic because it doesnt support the next version lua? 06:50 VanessaE nope, there's no reason not to use it. 06:50 VanessaE my builds and thus my server have it 06:50 VanessaE zero problems. 06:50 mauvebic well theres a newer version lua than what minetest or luajit uses 06:51 VanessaE that's not really of a concern here 06:51 VanessaE we're consistent with 5.1 which is what LuaJIT uses anyway (plus a few extras) 06:51 mauvebic well i only mention since new lua supports bitwise operators, though thats useless to 99% of people here lol 06:53 mauvebic i think once people get into the bitwise stuff they figure why not cpp lol 06:53 arsdragonfly I'd like to know if there is anything like Gettext in Lua ;-( 06:53 mauvebic like to load meta string into formspec elements? 06:54 kaeza arsdragonfly, you may like this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4929 07:00 arsdragonfly lol Thanks it looks really cool 07:00 arsdragonfly hope it'll be included by the master branch 07:01 VanessaE kaeza: so, what's the next thing to do for homedecor? :-) 07:01 VanessaE (your i18n post reminded me) 07:01 arsdragonfly and support non-ASCII characters 07:01 kaeza VanessaE, have any plans? 07:01 mauvebic stripper poles for the study? 07:01 kaeza arsdragonfly, AFAIK, it works with non-ASCII chars 07:01 VanessaE mauvebic: there's already a round, brass pole :) 07:01 mauvebic lol 07:01 VanessaE kaeza: nothing concrete. Maybe add some random item here or there perhaps. 07:02 kaeza a /concrete/ post? 07:02 kaeza :D 07:02 VanessaE mauvebic: but because of the lighting bug withnodeboxes, it looks more like it's made of mese than brass. 07:02 kaeza punpunpun 07:02 VanessaE kaeza: nope, RealBadAngel already has that covered in Technic :) 07:02 arsdragonfly kaeza,i'll try it out then 07:02 mauvebic so thats a bug where the lighting is uneven all around nodeboxes? 07:02 kaeza arsdragonfly, where are you from if I may ask? 07:02 mauvebic i noticed with light_propagate on or off the lighting was effed 07:03 VanessaE mauvebic: lighting on nodeboxes doesn't follow the "smooth lighting" flag. it's all flatly lit. 07:03 arsdragonfly kaeza, I'm from China 07:03 mauvebic i got rid of my wallpappers due to that lol 07:03 VanessaE which also causes the engine to screw up the contrast and brightness of the textures. 07:03 kaeza arsdragonfly, can you translate some strings from english to chinese? 07:04 mauvebic i thought they spoke mandarin? 07:04 mauvebic or is it cantonese? 07:04 VanessaE mauvebic: I believe both dialects are in use in China. 07:04 arsdragonfly kaeza, lol i've translated all the core strings in Weblate 07:04 kaeza cool :) maybe you can translate some mods too? 07:05 kaeza At least homedecor, moreblocks, moreores, and maptools support translation 07:05 mauvebic reminds me of when people ask "do you speak mexican?" lol 07:05 arsdragonfly kaeza, yes maybe 07:05 NotReallyNick Well, do you? 07:05 mauvebic speaking canadian is easy, its english + a six pack 07:05 kaeza no, mauvebic speaks canadian 07:06 mauvebic lol true 07:06 kaeza lol 07:06 VanessaE "english plus a six-pack" 07:06 VanessaE hah 07:06 arsdragonfly but the community here in China is just around 60 ppl now 07:06 mauvebic minetest community or weblate? 07:06 arsdragonfly minetest community 07:06 mauvebic not bad 07:07 arsdragonfly less than 1/1000 of that of minecraft :( 07:07 mauvebic prolly all of 2-3 canucks here lol 07:07 kaeza that I know of, I'm the unly uruguayan in here 07:07 kaeza only* 07:07 mauvebic anyone that comes over to my place goes "oh you play minecraft" lol 07:08 arsdragonfly lol so this IRC channel will be on 24/7 right ? 07:08 mauvebic yep 07:08 kaeza hah no I play communistcraft :) 07:08 mauvebic and we all keep odd hours despite our timezones lol 07:08 mauvebic example, me and vanessae should technically be sleeping at this hour lol 07:09 VanessaE sleep? what's that? 07:09 mauvebic im guessing were both insomniacs 07:09 VanessaE ;) 07:09 kaeza 04:08 here 07:09 VanessaE you guess correctly, in my case. 07:09 VanessaE kaeza: impossible, unless you live in the atlantic ocean ;-) 07:09 VanessaE (seriously, what's east of Easterm tz?) 07:09 mauvebic lately its getting pretty bad, to bed at 6am, up at 11 lol 07:09 mauvebic am 07:09 kaeza GMT-3 07:10 mauvebic heres' hoping we got a few west coast users for during the day here lol 07:10 VanessaE oh wait, you're in Uruguay or so, right? 07:10 kaeza that I know of, I'm the unly uruguayan in here 07:10 kaeza ;) 07:10 VanessaE duh :) 07:10 VanessaE I missed that :) 07:10 mauvebic -3? if EST is -5, then, shouldn't it be earlier there? 07:11 VanessaE mauvebic: insomnia doesn't always imply lack of fatigue ;) 07:11 VanessaE mauvebic: -4 is one hour later than -5 07:11 VanessaE because GMT is east of us :) 07:11 mauvebic timezones confuse the eff out of me lol cant we all live on globaltime 07:12 mauvebic ianno we still got DST here 07:12 kaeza arsdragonfly, copy this file, translate the strings (put them after the '=' sign) and save as "ch.txt". Then send it to either VanessaE or me: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/locale/template.txt 07:12 VanessaE arsdragonfly: or make it a pull request against that ^^^^ 07:12 kaeza or that ;) 07:13 arsdragonfly VanessaE: great 07:13 mauvebic yay smooth update, in there like swimwear 07:13 arsdragonfly and i'll have to learn to use git then 07:13 mauvebic good luck with that lol 07:13 kaeza then it's prolly better to just copy the file :P 07:14 kaeza anyway, if you have homedecor installed, you should already have that file on your pc 07:14 mauvebic i cant find the /common folder thats been spoken of 07:15 VanessaE in games. 07:16 VanessaE minetest/games/common 07:17 mauvebic im guessing that was in a seperate repo lol 07:18 mauvebic well i dont seem to be missing anything anyhow 07:18 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/common/ 07:18 mauvebic my game has a tweaked default 07:18 kaeza ah 07:19 mauvebic in fact, added a smokegen tonight for the plumes 07:19 mauvebic did you know, 1 of the 4 plumes on the titanic was a fake? 07:19 kaeza then you will have to delete "default" from the "common_mods =" line in "game.conf" (if there is such line) 07:20 mauvebic plumes or smokestacks? same thing i think 07:20 kaeza and put your customized default in mauvegame/mods/default 07:20 mauvebic ee if my game.conf doesnt have that line than i imagine it doesn't load any of the commons at all? 07:21 kaeza ah yes 07:21 mauvebic okay better that way no conflicts 07:21 kaeza hmm... probably would be best to download minetest_game again, and do as I said with that dir 07:22 mauvebic eventually yeah i made this game a few decimal places ago lol 07:22 mauvebic funnels! not plumes 07:22 mauvebic lol plumes is what comes out 07:23 kaeza sorry, my english is not very good looking 07:23 mauvebic naw it was my english that was off lol 07:23 mauvebic its funny, they could afford a fake funnel, but they wouldn't spring for extra lifeboats lol 07:24 kaeza it's because the ship was supposedly "invincible" 07:24 kaeza or some crap like that 07:24 mauvebic though, they made the Brittanic twice as solid and it only sunk several times faster lol 07:24 mauvebic when i research a construction project i go all-out lol 07:25 mauvebic i could use the same mesh for the brittanic and olympic, the former being a medical ship 07:27 mauvebic though the story of the Lusitania is even more tragic: they used the passengers as cover to transport munitiions, then the admiralty *let* the germans torpedo it, to draw the americans into ww1 07:27 * mauvebic is a suppository of information 07:28 VanessaE because all your info comes out of your ass? ;) 07:29 mauvebic i would have thought its because people thought i was a pain in the ... lol 07:29 VanessaE hehe 07:29 mauvebic naw it all comes from reputable sources, wikipedia lol 07:29 kaeza Microwaves! 07:30 mauvebic microwaves? 07:30 kaeza ...too simple 07:30 mauvebic ah homedecor 07:30 mauvebic espresso machine? 07:30 mauvebic or coffemaker 07:30 kaeza hmm 07:30 mauvebic could always check out the online catalogues of places like walmart, that always gives me ideas lol 07:31 kaeza http://www.whenwasitinvented.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Coffee-Maker.jpg ? 07:31 VanessaE kaeza: yes, homedecor needs a microwave oven 07:31 VanessaE coffee maker? meh. 07:31 VanessaE if you wanna add it, go for it 07:31 VanessaE I want to add my projector at some point, but I'm too lazy :D 07:31 mauvebic i would have gone w/ espresso, you can get away with charging 6$ 07:32 VanessaE kaeza: think you can make it actually operate? e.g. cook stuff, only things from the food and farming mods maybe? :) 07:32 mauvebic give it an inv slot 07:33 mauvebic put a routine to register oven recipes 07:33 mauvebic and bam, miniapi 07:33 kaeza VanessaE, oven copypasta! 07:33 kaeza :D 07:33 VanessaE kaeza: go for it :) 07:33 VanessaE but make it cook faster than the oven 07:34 mauvebic if craftings' to get more interesting, we need to add different ways of doing it 07:34 VanessaE (maybe 25% faster than the oven, which if I had any sense at all, would have been maybe 25% faster than a stone furnace) 07:34 mauvebic you still can 07:34 mauvebic not set in *stone* lol :P 07:34 VanessaE yep I know 07:35 VanessaE again, too lazy :) 07:35 mauvebic microwaves though are more like 1/4 of the time 07:35 mauvebic but they take more juice 07:35 mauvebic dunno ifyou need to hook up appliances before using /em 07:36 VanessaE more juice? hah! 1kW versus about 2kW for an oven. 07:36 VanessaE naw, homedecor appliances don't require a wiring infrastructure 07:36 mauvebic cuz wires are impractical for now 07:37 mauvebic thought about that too: what if you had junction boxes (breakers or fuses) that control outlets within a certain range? 07:37 VanessaE that's a thought, except that the outlets themselves still take a node space. 07:37 VanessaE can't use entities because we all know how unreliable those are 07:37 mauvebic theyd just disapear 07:37 mauvebic on clear 07:38 VanessaE exactly 07:38 mauvebic well in a room big enough, a signlike outlet wouldn't take too much room 07:38 mauvebic mesecons has wireless too though? 07:39 VanessaE I don't think so, no 07:39 VanessaE not for a long while now 07:39 VanessaE besides, mesecons is TTL 07:39 mauvebic TTL? 07:39 mauvebic i know TLC is the learning channel 07:40 VanessaE I wouldn't wanna act like I'm pulling 2kW 240 VAC through a wire designed for 3.3v/0.01mA :-) 07:40 mauvebic ah ok mesecons is electronics not electricity 07:41 mauvebic sucks because for once i really do need pistons, 07:41 VanessaE TTl - Transistor to Transistor Logic. aka 2.5v and up = "high", and less than 1.2v = "low". 07:41 VanessaE (with nominal voltages of 5v or 3.3v, and 0v/ground respectively. 07:41 mauvebic hmm yeah thats not really suitable for wiring buildings/civic stuff 07:42 VanessaE no. definitely not :-) 07:42 mauvebic might as well just make a custom piston for the steam engine in the boat 07:42 VanessaE Technic, however, is well-suited to the idea. 07:43 VanessaE with its high-power energy-based system 07:43 VanessaE energy is actually measured out across the wires 07:43 mauvebic im not quite sure what technic is focused on though, its kinda like my mods lol 07:43 mauvebic prolly less random 07:44 mauvebic i know it has wires too and that they work with mesecons 07:44 mauvebic tools and stargates 07:45 mauvebic ok yeah just checked it depends on a few big ticket items 07:45 NotReallyNick Yeah, for sure. 07:46 NotReallyNick I can't run mesecons or pipeworks on my server, I don't have enough resources. 07:46 mauvebic calinoumods + mesecons + pipeworks (inc tubes) + plantlife = how much ram? 07:47 VanessaE mauvebic: nothing much. your map uses more RAM than the mods. 07:47 mauvebic the old map maybe 07:47 VanessaE NotReallyNick: pipeworks should run fine on your machine 07:47 mauvebic havent touched it in weeks 07:47 VanessaE mesecons m 07:47 VanessaE ight be 07:47 VanessaE mesecons might be too heavy though 07:47 NotReallyNick VanessaE: When I use pipeworks, I get huge lag. 07:47 mauvebic minetest running right now: 7% of 3 gigs 07:48 NotReallyNick That's pipeworks WITHOUT mesecons. 07:48 VanessaE strange, it never causes lag for me... 07:48 mauvebic and my old map is much laggier on OC's setup for some reason 07:49 mauvebic that might be mod conflicts from other stuff installed 07:50 VanessaE my server is using 145MB of RAM at present 07:50 VanessaE my client, on the other hand, weighs in at a heafty 7.2GB 07:50 VanessaE hefty* 07:50 mauvebic the whole shebang runs on 210mb here 07:51 mauvebic (7% of 3000mb) 07:53 mauvebic which aint bad with 1K + nodes a map editor, mesh spawner and ltrees 07:53 mauvebic crops, doors, animated stuff, and tons of nodeboxes 07:57 mauvebic xfce4-panel thought takes up 60% of ram, go figure 07:58 mauvebic its prolly written in JS lol 08:12 kaeza what is the curl name for apt-get? 08:12 VanessaE libcurl4-openssl-dev 08:13 kaeza thanks! no wonder I didn't see the public server list :P 08:13 kaeza waiting 30 mins for MT to build -.- 08:14 mauvebic 30? 08:14 mauvebic my P4 took 15 08:15 NotReallyNick "P4"? 08:15 kaeza try to stop for 5 minutes while trying to test something and those 5 mins feel like two whole hours 08:16 kaeza Pentium 4 08:16 mauvebic ^ 08:16 mauvebic or, Ye Olde Pentiume 4 08:16 kaeza hehe 08:17 mauvebic worth now 11 pence 3 farthings 08:17 mauvebic damn thing underclocks itself because of heat threshold lol 08:19 markveidemanis HI 08:19 pandaro hi 08:20 markveidemanis Come on my server:D its survival 08:20 kaeza ugh... the client downloads the public server list every time you switch to MP tab >.< 08:20 NotReallyNick I tried to come on earlier, but it was down. 08:21 mauvebic doesnt it have to refresh? 08:21 NotReallyNick kaeza: Yes. Yes it does. 08:21 kaeza it'd be better if it had a "Refresh" button in there 08:21 markveidemanis IP:86.165.91.19:30000 08:21 markveidemanis Can i ask somoene: 08:22 kaeza ah no 08:22 markveidemanis When you see an ip of complex numbers, how do you enter it into minetest? 08:22 markveidemanis conf file or manually 08:22 NotReallyNick By typing it. 08:22 mauvebic lol 08:22 markveidemanis k 08:22 NotReallyNick Manually. 08:22 kaeza it just locks up while populating the list 08:23 markveidemanis Im making a subdomain 08:24 mauvebic locks up... doest it end up working or ? 08:24 markveidemanis !up TEST 08:24 markveidemanis !up markmt.strangled.net 08:25 markveidemanis Well thats the IP i just set up 08:25 NotReallyNick That's not an IP address, it's a domain name. 08:25 markveidemanis subdonamin 08:25 markveidemanis Well, join please! 08:26 NotReallyNick A sub domain is a subclass of domain, so it's still a domain name, but not an IP address. 08:26 NotReallyNick I was going to join earlier, but it was down. But now I'm busy doing homework. Sorry. 08:26 markveidemanis ok... 08:27 markveidemanis Who else can join? 08:32 sfan5 !up 86.165.91.19 08:32 MinetestBot 86.165.91.19:30000 is up (0.324ms) 08:33 sfan5 markveidemanis: you forgot that MinetestBot ignores you 08:33 sfan5 !up markmt.strangled.net 08:33 MinetestBot markmt.strangled.net:30000 is up (0.392ms) 08:33 markveidemanis thanks 08:33 markveidemanis Who wants to build an adventure map with me? 08:58 pandaro I just tried "set_physics_override (speed, jump, gravity)." Well guys, I have no words. Maybe it's time to start talking about what minetest (communistcraft) and has instead minecraft does not have. 08:58 pandaro sorry for confusion 08:59 Calinou hi 08:59 Calinou wtf, my pc just randomly rebooted 08:59 Calinou while I was away :< 09:00 mauvebic its a random safety feature 09:00 mauvebic :P 09:00 mauvebic you sure the power didnt go out? 09:00 Calinou and it randomly sucks 09:00 Calinou no? 09:00 mauvebic meh, sometimes just one breaker resets here lol 09:01 mauvebic havent had a random reboot in a while tho 09:01 mauvebic minetest, vlc, sometimes chrome close by themselves 09:11 markveidemanis Who here is really creative and has made a map before? 09:20 sfan5 http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6981445_700b.jpg 09:21 markveidemanis LOLLOL 09:25 mauvebic sexy 09:26 mauvebic even the iranians are sitting down to talks lol 09:34 markveidemanis FUCKING SHIT 09:34 markveidemanis updatelistener thing 09:42 Exio Calinou_: did you try with other CPU 09:42 Exio err, Calinou 09:42 Calinou ... 09:42 Exio 06:43:35 up 18 days, 19:33, 3 users, load average: 1.09, 2.62, 2.91 09:42 Exio >:D 09:42 Calinou not only I received 1×8GB of RAM instead of 2×4 today, my RAM sucks 09:43 Calinou can't compile minetest without a freeze 09:43 Exio ha 09:43 Exio i should be buying with 2*4 ram today 09:44 Calinou fuc yea, i'll have to send stuff again 09:44 Exio i hope i can get 1600mhz ram with HyperX 09:44 Calinou btw, heatsinks on ram are totally useless 09:45 Exio overclock the RAM to 8GHz! 09:46 Exio (suddenly, nuke-RAM mode enabled) 09:46 * Calinou starts compiling MT with 1 thread only 09:49 Exio ehm, don't you have your old ram somewhere? 09:52 Calinou finished 09:52 Calinou Exio: who said I used my new acer-syndrom RAM? 09:52 Exio ehm 09:52 Exio wtf then? 09:53 Exio you can't use your old ram? 09:53 Calinou I'm using my old RAM right now. 09:53 Exio and with it you can't use 8~ threads? 09:53 Calinou nope 09:53 Exio why not? 09:53 Calinou freezes, even after undoing the overclocking 09:53 Exio hm.. i have stock fans 09:53 Calinou and? 09:54 Exio and overclock this up to 4GHz and AMD... 09:54 Calinou my CPU isn't overheating 09:54 Exio i still don't get what happens with the stuff :P 09:55 Calinou bad RAM can cause freezes 09:55 Exio i got that, but can't you just underclock it and have it usable? 09:56 Exio grr, bbl 09:56 ImQ009 Calinou, I'd check the PSU 10:00 Calinou ImQ009: no u 10:03 VanessaE Calinou: I presume you've already done memtest86? 10:04 Calinou no 10:04 kaeza https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/14 10:04 Calinou I'm going to replace my RAM soon, so why should I bother? 10:04 VanessaE because bad RAM will also lead to corrupt files. 10:04 Calinou but I need to wait another 15 days 10:04 VanessaE and you don't need that. 10:04 * Calinou doesn't care 10:05 ImQ009 Calinou, Retarded answer to a serious statement. Couldn't expect anymore from you as always I can see :P 10:05 VanessaE Calinou: I mean personal files, minetest maps, music, OS files, ... 10:05 Calinou anyway, going to backup my stuff on the SSD I currently don't use 10:06 markveidemanis Who wants to go bungee jumping 10:06 VanessaE kaeza: check the front/front_active images, something looks off about those 10:07 VanessaE (one appears to be larger than the other) 10:07 markveidemanis Wanna hear the second part of my joke? 10:07 VanessaE markveidemanis: that joke is a real stretch.. 10:07 VanessaE *rimshot* 10:07 markveidemanis Who wants to go bungee jomping: 10:08 markveidemanis Not me, i came into this world with a broken rubber and i'm not going out the same way 10:08 markveidemanis :D 10:08 VanessaE markveidemanis: old joke. 10:08 markveidemanis Know it? 10:08 VanessaE seen it on iFunny some days ago. 10:09 markveidemanis The welsh have found a new use for sheep! 10:09 markveidemanis WOOL! 10:09 Calinou lunch, bye 10:10 VanessaE aw he wasted the opportunity to write "excess food" there 10:10 kaeza VanessaE, done. check again 10:11 VanessaE much better :) 10:11 kaeza thanks :) 10:11 VanessaE merged 10:11 kaeza for now it acts the same as the oven 10:11 kaeza I'll add support for food-only later 10:11 VanessaE right 10:11 VanessaE we'll work on that another time 10:13 VanessaE kaeza: let's add a variant of this that fits under a counter 10:13 VanessaE and also tune the selection box to match the nodebox 10:14 VanessaE hm, there's only one output slot. 10:14 kaeza only one? 10:14 kaeza hrm 10:14 VanessaE *nod* 10:14 kaeza derp 10:14 kaeza changed one def but not the other 10:14 VanessaE and it destroys items that aren't cookable 10:14 kaeza fixed 10:15 kaeza that's new 10:15 kaeza does that happen with the oven too? 10:15 VanessaE leave it to me to find obscure corner cases ;) 10:15 VanessaE um 10:15 kaeza I just copy-pasted the oven code 10:16 kaeza I guess I'll update both to latest furnace code 10:16 VanessaE nope, it doesn't. 10:16 VanessaE lemme check the oven too 10:17 VanessaE hm 10:17 VanessaE oven does 10:17 VanessaE furnace doesn't. 10:17 VanessaE I wonder what I broke? :-/ 10:18 kaeza the furnace has been updated 10:18 VanessaE ah 10:18 VanessaE maybe the one I based the oven on had that same bug 10:18 kaeza maybe 10:18 kaeza I'll update that 10:18 VanessaE oh, thanks 10:20 kaeza ah! I didn't notice the problem with the selectionbox because of my patch 10:21 kaeza also, any sensible recipe for the MW? 10:22 VanessaE lemme think a sec 10:23 VanessaE S S S 10:23 VanessaE S G Si 10:23 VanessaE S S MC 10:23 VanessaE S = Steel ingot, Si = silicon lump, G = glass, MC = Mese crystal 10:24 VanessaE yield 2 10:25 kaeza seems good 10:37 kaeza VanessaE, what did you put in the oven that shouldn't have burned? 10:38 kaeza err... which item did you test? 10:38 VanessaE I started cooking some cobble, and when the top slot was empty, I stuck in a tree trunk 10:38 VanessaE then tried a glass table top 10:38 VanessaE both of which I know can't be cooked into anything 10:39 kaeza that seems to be fixed now 10:39 VanessaE oh good 10:39 kaeza I can't cook an oven in an oven :P 10:40 VanessaE heh 10:40 kaeza 10:41 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#5vbX8y8J 10:41 VanessaE speaking of 'yo dawg' moments. 10:42 kaeza hah 10:43 VanessaE aw shit, everyone hide 10:50 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:50 VanessaE hey 10:54 VanessaE ok, I'm off to bed now 10:55 VanessaE night all, or something 10:56 FreeFull VanessaE: Yeah, I stuck some tree trunk in hoping to make coal, and watched it disappear 10:56 FreeFull Connecting to a server doesn't seem to add it to favourites 10:57 kaeza https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/15 10:58 Exio hi 10:59 kaeza hi 11:03 Exio bbl :P 11:08 jojoa1997|Tablet i love the new modding api 11:08 jojoa1997|Tablet now we can edit gravity 11:34 pandaro jojoa:you're working on player classes? 11:39 FreeFull jojoa1997_Tablet: Gravity changes? Cool 11:39 FreeFull Now it should be possible to replicate that tunnel in forest temple from Ocarina of Time 11:42 jojoa1997_Tablet dero no 11:42 jojoa1997_Tablet pandero no 11:45 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone own minecraft 11:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou you have minecraft 11:46 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 11:46 Calinou yes, since like 2.5 years ago 11:46 jojoa1997|Tablet can you send me a download of the textures 11:47 jojoa1997|Tablet just the textures folder 11:47 jojoa1997|Tablet the one with iitems aand bbloockks diireccttorries 11:47 Calinou no. 11:47 Calinou http://assets.minecraft.net/1_5_1/minecraft.jar 11:47 Calinou ^ get them from here 11:47 Calinou (open the .jar with 7-zip or such) 11:47 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, Calinou, what are you fighting about? 11:47 jojoa1997|Tablet school web filter 11:48 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, what file sharing sites can you access? 11:48 jojoa1997|Tablet i need a download of just the textures folder in minecraft.jar 11:48 Calinou Jordach: fun fact: with my single channel 8gb RAM, it looks like my RAM bandwidth (read speed) is the same 11:48 jojoa1997|Tablet i am not on pc so i cant get textures 11:48 Jordach or even, i can email it to you 11:48 Calinou no idea how to test write speed 11:48 Jordach Calinou, MemtestX86 11:48 Calinou I have better things to do 11:48 Jordach Calinou, yeah 11:49 Jordach i suppose you do# 11:49 Jordach -# 11:49 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach you have mincraft? 11:49 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, used to play it 11:49 tripod i bet white supremisits love Bioshock infinte. 11:49 tripod HELL NAW 11:49 jojoa1997|Tablet do you have current version 11:49 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, nope. 11:49 Jordach 1.4.x here the last time I plated 11:49 jojoa1997|Tablet grrrr 11:49 Jordach played* 11:50 jojoa1997|Tablet i need that texture folder 11:50 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, hold onb 11:50 Jordach hold on* 11:50 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach the one with seperate texture files 11:50 Jordach again: HOLD ON. 11:53 * Jordach is grabbing the packages 11:53 Jordach yup, MC doesnt work for me :P 11:53 Jordach even though it works on windows fine 11:54 jojoa1997|Tablet what does "is_ground_content = true" mean? 11:54 kaeza hai Jordach 11:54 Jordach kaeza, hey# 11:54 Jordach -# 11:55 kaeza computers hazSnapple Piepad now ^_^ 11:55 kaeza *haz Snapple 11:56 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: nothing right now 11:56 Calinou I've removed it from moreblocks definitions personally, no impact 11:56 jojoa1997|Tablet gourps = {cracky=1, level=2.5}? 11:56 jojoa1997|Tablet that right 12:00 Calinou you can only use 1, 2 or 3 as group level 12:02 Calinou cool, there's simplemobs on gameboom :) 12:03 Calinou first time I see a server using it 12:06 Jordach Calinou, or that gameboom wants AI griefers ! 12:10 PilzAdam Calinou, jojoa1997|Tablet, is_ground_content will be moved as a flag for the cave generator; nodes with it will be removed by it 12:11 PilzAdam s/moved/used 12:15 Calinou will it be true by default? 12:15 Calinou imo it should, more logical 12:15 PilzAdam no 12:20 Calinou lol, I'm jumping on a rat on gameboom 12:23 jojoa1997|Tablet Can someone make a mod that when you place a special block it will generate ore like join mapgen.lua 12:23 jojoa1997|Tablet But you choose the different types like scatter sheet or the third ine 12:23 PilzAdam not possible 12:25 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#CaYua0js 12:25 jojoa1997|Tablet Curse you school filter 12:28 BlockMen hi everyone 12:30 BlockMen PilzAdam, where can i find the default tree def? the example in the lua-api is just a too large apple tree 12:30 PilzAdam the default trees dont use the L-System# 12:30 PilzAdam -# 12:31 BlockMen can i transform the default to L-System? 12:31 BlockMen or spawn the default trees shomehow? 12:31 BlockMen *somehow 12:32 PilzAdam in my farming mod I ported the algorithm for the default trees to Lua 12:33 * Jordach waits for VPS to compile 0.4.6 12:34 BlockMen PilzAdam, so there is no way to spawn the default tree without converting to lua and use L-System? 12:34 JesseH2 .______. why is #minecraft so strict D: 12:34 PilzAdam BlockMen, the API has no function for it 12:35 BlockMen hmm, it should have next release 12:35 BlockMen and then i will use you farming:generate_tree 12:40 BlockMen PilzAdam, for what is underground in your function? 12:40 PilzAdam the block that the sapling grows on IIRC 12:42 BlockMen but why using a for loop for that? 12:50 BlockMen PilzAdam, your code works fine 12:51 PilzAdam :D 12:51 BlockMen and with wich chance are default trees apple trees? 12:51 BlockMen *which 12:52 PilzAdam on mapgen its perlin noise based (AFAIK) and the growing ABM is in content_abm.cpp 12:53 BlockMen ok, thx 12:56 BlockMen PilzAdam, i'm not good at c++, but does this "bool is_apple_tree = myrand() % 4 == 0;" mean chance = 4%? 12:56 PilzAdam no, 25% 12:56 PilzAdam % in c++ is modulo 12:57 BlockMen ah, ok 12:57 BlockMen btw..wiki[de] is updated 13:02 MinetestBot GIT: MirceaKitsune commited to minetest/minetest: Dont allow fast move in water or ladder when aux1_descend is true e38d65f8d1 2013-04-05T05:58:35-07:00 http://git.io/GtFlVw 13:06 markveidemanis Hi 13:09 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Install "build" and "survival" games with "make install" 1a5dcfd0c8 2013-04-05T06:03:05-07:00 http://git.io/Zpwk9Q 13:16 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Use the nodebox as selection box if it's not set manually 2fb0e547a0 2013-04-05T06:14:37-07:00 http://git.io/J_ZEfw 13:18 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Remove selection_box from stairs and slabs since the engine uses the node_box now 9951ac3152 2013-04-05T06:17:14-07:00 http://git.io/iXmu2g 13:19 jojoa1997|Tablet There should be a forge in mineytes 13:19 jojoa1997|Tablet That let's you make tools stronger 13:21 RealBadAngel hi all 13:22 RealBadAngel BlockMen, replacement for default trees are beeches 13:23 Taoki RealBadAngel: So... gonna be making any low-gravity space ships or jump / running boots mods with the feature I added? Curious if you have plans for that soon, since I think you were the first who asked for support with per-player physics :) 13:23 RealBadAngel Taoki, definitely yes. i will try to add some new items this weekend 13:24 Taoki nice ^^ 13:24 PilzAdam anything against this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/573 13:25 RealBadAngel heh, im not quite sure if im better developer or modder, because i do develop stuff for better modding, so i use other folks code to get my mods better ;) 13:25 BlockMen RealBadAngel, replacement? why replacement? 13:26 RealBadAngel just so. no more sticks with some leaves. only trees 13:26 iqualfragile http://minetest.net/news.php please update 13:27 RealBadAngel BlockMen, have you actually seen beeches ingame? 13:28 PilzAdam iqualfragile, you cant get to this site without knowing the URL 13:28 PilzAdam so we dont need to update 13:28 PilzAdam it isnt used anymore 13:28 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#1 13:29 iqualfragile but there are people out there who do not enjoy reading throught the commits of 3 repositories 13:29 iqualfragile (i read those anyways so it does not realy matter to me) 13:29 Taoki PilzAdam: Nope. Private messaging is a good idea :) 13:31 BlockMen RealBadAngel, haven't seen yet 13:31 BlockMen and when they relpace default? 13:34 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add private messaging with /msg 1bae82e6c4 2013-04-05T06:25:59-07:00 http://git.io/o99C1Q 13:34 RealBadAngel BlockMen, when biomes revolution will start. 13:35 markveidemanis Bedrock:done 13:35 markveidemanis whoops 13:35 RealBadAngel and this is up to hmmmm 13:36 iqualfragile https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/23590a8383f068509265d5724458c7966d71a0e3 well, actualy that was quite usefull for giving players build before they ever join so they can start building right away 13:36 iqualfragile maybee add some kind of /forcegrant ? 13:36 RealBadAngel we have tree models ready for quite a long time (with some extra not seen before just in case) 13:37 RealBadAngel like red desert trees, giant cacti, hell trees etc 13:37 RealBadAngel also silverlight tree 13:38 BlockMen RealBadAngel, it would be nice to get function to spawn the trees with lua 13:38 RealBadAngel ofc you have it 13:38 PilzAdam iqualfragile, you cant be sure that the correct player will connect the first time 13:38 RealBadAngel just read moretrees code 13:39 iqualfragile PilzAdam: i know 13:39 PilzAdam and typos in player names are more common than granting player privs before they join 13:39 PilzAdam (although we have working nick completion now) 13:40 * Taoki is still waiting and hoping for RealBadAngel's big trees mod to be in minetest_game 13:40 PilzAdam are you serious? 13:40 PilzAdam its way too slow 13:40 BlockMen RealBadAngel, you mean "minetest.env:spawn_tree"?? 13:40 PilzAdam it has to be done in core mapgen 13:40 iqualfragile isnt it in the engine allready? 13:41 PilzAdam has anyone benchmarked moretrees? 13:41 PilzAdam (the on_generated()) 13:41 PilzAdam iqualfragile, no, all the placement is done in Lua with minetest.env_spawn_tree() 13:42 RealBadAngel BlockMen, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1189 13:42 Taoki PilzAdam: Yeah, I mean the functionality. Didn't know about it being slow 13:42 RealBadAngel it is not slow 13:42 Taoki I'm also surprised if a big trees mod would be slow. What is there to calculate? 13:42 RealBadAngel slow part is lua part 13:42 BlockMen [14:32] the default trees dont use the L-System# 13:42 RealBadAngel all tree generation can be called from engine directly 13:43 PilzAdam can someone use os.clock() to benchmark moretrees? 13:44 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, ofc it wont be so fast as old tree 13:44 Taoki RealBadAngel: Does your latest version of the mod do that? 13:44 RealBadAngel big oak, with 3k nodes surely will consume some time 13:45 arsdragonfly 3k nodes? 13:45 RealBadAngel but dont compare shitty hotdog to dinner in restaurant 13:46 RealBadAngel arsdragonfly, http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#3 medium sized oak 13:51 Jordach PilzAdam, at what height are floating islands generated at? 13:51 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4698 13:51 PilzAdam 500 and upwards 13:52 BlockMen hi Jordach 13:52 Jordach hello BlockMen 13:53 PilzAdam the default on_generated() call takes 0 to 19 ms, while moretrees has 70 to 900 (!) ms 13:53 PilzAdam that is definetly too slow 13:54 RealBadAngel dont compare please lua stuff to engine only 13:55 RealBadAngel your comparisions are just a lie 13:55 RealBadAngel of course l-systems will consume more time 13:55 PilzAdam I compare Lua to Lua 13:55 RealBadAngel but atm most of it is lua interface 13:56 markveidemanis how do i revoke a priv with lua 13:56 PilzAdam I compare how the default mod uses on_generated() to moretrees 13:56 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i will prepare for you fork with l-system trees in mapgen 13:56 PilzAdam just to show that moretrees need to be done in core 13:56 RealBadAngel without any lua shit 13:56 RealBadAngel then you will be able to compare 13:57 iqualfragile markveidemanis: use /revoke 13:57 RealBadAngel by now just stop 13:57 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, _then_ i would compare Lua to core 13:57 markveidemanis with lua 13:57 BlockMen PilzAdam, thats why i needed default tree gen 13:57 iqualfragile markveidemanis: look at the revoke function in chatcommands.lua 13:57 BlockMen *http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81662#p81662 13:58 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, whatever. I do prefer beauty over leaves on sticks. 13:59 RealBadAngel and i think most of us think so 13:59 RealBadAngel And dont try to tell mc doesnt have such trees 13:59 RealBadAngel it does, even bigger ones 14:00 PilzAdam of course it has to be done in a reasonable time 14:00 iqualfragile idea: RealBadAngel implements it in c and everybody is happy :D 14:00 PilzAdam no 14:00 PilzAdam hmmmm already plans to do it in v7 14:00 iqualfragile idea: we wait till mapgen v7 and everybody is happy :D 14:01 RealBadAngel l-systems tree generator is part of the engine 14:01 iqualfragile i know 14:01 markveidemanis ive looked but it wont work :( 14:01 RealBadAngel what is slow its lua code to place them 14:01 iqualfragile and when hmmmmmmmmm uses it in the future thats great 14:01 RealBadAngel without biomes 14:04 markveidemanis minetest.set_player_privs(name, {priv1=false}) 14:04 markveidemanis minetest.set_player_privs(name, {priv1=true}) 14:05 MinetestBot GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: unkn own block -> unkn own node 1586cdac53 2013-04-05T06:57:39-07:00 http://git.io/h1sbOQ 14:08 markveidemanis jojoa how do i revoke privs with lua 14:08 BlockMen g2g..bye 14:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Why 14:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Take a look at hungrygames 14:12 Jordach there we go 14:12 Jordach a nice new 1080p monitor installed! 14:14 Jordach OH GOD 14:15 moala yes? who called me? 14:15 Jordach lol 14:15 moala Jordach: what can I do for you? 14:15 Jordach im just stunned by this 1080p monitor :D 14:16 moala don't get too much sunburn! 14:18 kaeza hah that gave me a silly idea 14:20 iqualfragile ühm… 1080p… thats like the resolution my monitor had about 5 years ago 14:20 iqualfragile well… less than that 14:26 proller now 1080p even in china mobile phones 14:31 PilzAdam fun fact: burning trees in the furnace is more effective than burning four wood 14:32 markveidemanis Help: http://pastie.org/7328156 14:32 markveidemanis revoke on jail, grant on release 14:33 Jordach which there is no code for. 14:51 * Jordach sees Calinou at QuakeNet @ #assaultcube 14:58 markveidemanis Zeg9 14:58 Zeg9 Hi 14:58 markveidemanis Come on my server, i edited some mods and am testing them 14:59 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net i think 14:59 Jordach sfan5, wheres minetestbot 14:59 sfan5 uhh 15:00 sfan5 hello MinetestBot 15:00 MinetestBot Hi sfan5! 15:00 sfan5 right her 15:00 sfan5 +e 15:00 rubenwardy hi all 15:04 rubenwardy qwerty 15:05 rubenwardy qwe 15:05 Jordach rubenwardy, what are you doing 15:05 rubenwardy erm 15:05 rubenwardy in chat? 15:05 rubenwardy or now? 15:05 Jordach qwerty 15:05 Jordach qwe 15:05 rubenwardy my brother is being a <> 15:06 Jordach CUNT. 15:06 rubenwardy He is sitting next to me, and he is 10 15:06 Jordach OH 15:07 * Jordach then sha's the word 15:24 mauvebic necrochatting lol but whats wrong with l/moretrees? works fast for me 15:27 markveidemanis Today you are the oldest you ever were and the youngest you ever will be 15:27 Jordach dafuq 15:29 mauvebic dont look at me lol 15:29 Calinou rubenwardy: being a fish 15:29 Calinou ><> = fish 15:29 mauvebic is it odd that the steam engines would be on in drydock? 15:31 mauvebic smoky drydock: http://ompldr.org/vaHp2Mw/screenshot_3648785743.png 15:40 mitori hello everyone! 15:40 mauvebic oy 15:42 Jordach mitori, sup 15:42 mitori not much, what about you? 15:42 mitori is celeron here? 15:43 Jordach celeron55, mitori wants a word 15:44 mauvebic id like a vowel 15:45 mitori what for? 15:45 kaeza hello mitori 15:45 mitori Thanks, Jordach 15:45 mitori hi there 15:47 mitori how's your modding going? 15:52 Jordach fine. 15:52 Jordach anyways, cant believe how much porting is being done for sphax 15:54 Calinou it's not hard 15:54 Calinou a matter of mv as of 1.5 15:54 Calinou and a few textures to color yourself 15:58 Jordach pretty much 16:03 NakedFury grass and leaves must be colored 16:08 Jordach i think redcrab should update his server and ignore the bugs that ensue; other server admins do it 16:09 NakedFury what version is he using? 16:09 Jordach 0.4.4 16:10 Jordach ancient. 16:12 Jordach also: my gaming headset works in linux 16:13 Jordach markveidemanis, you should really be using a real IRC client 16:17 Jordach OH CMON 16:17 Jordach http://jordachscity.tk/map.png 16:17 Jordach i've seen those REPEATING DOTS AGAIN 16:18 * Jordach hates this bug# 16:18 Jordach -# 16:23 Jordach is enable_texture_atlas = false correct? 16:23 khonkhortisan yes 16:29 khonkhortisan ick, the order of tiles is ±Y±X±Z and the order of facedir axes is +Y±Z±X-Y 16:29 Jordach RealBadAngel, 16:29 Jordach ick, the order of tiles is ±Y±X±Z and the order of facedir axes is +Y±Z±X-Y 16:33 Jordach mitori, you about? 16:34 mitori about what? 16:34 khonkhortisan around, here, present 16:34 Jordach i restarted my city world 16:34 Jordach the map corrupted itself, (this is why levelDB is NEEDED) 16:35 Jordach it now runs on flatland and uses paramat's canyon and ravine mod 16:37 sdzen ello peoples 16:38 sdzen I have seen people adding static images to the clouds 16:38 sdzen how is this done? 16:38 sdzen in the main menu screen 16:38 PilzAdam with menusplash and menulogo 16:40 sdzen menu splash? 16:40 sdzen new .png? 16:40 mitori i'm so-so :D 16:40 sdzen wait.... 0.4.6? 16:41 * sdzen has just looked at the topic 16:41 PilzAdam yes, this is only for 0.4.6 16:41 PilzAdam and you just add menusplash.png and menulogo.png to some texture folder (AFAIK) 16:42 khonkhortisan What's the right thing to do if a function is run with an out-of-range number? Nothing? Pick the last case? Print an error? Purposely cause a crash? 16:43 sdzen print an error 16:43 PilzAdam depends 16:43 khonkhortisan k 16:43 khonkhortisan ? 16:43 PilzAdam you can assert(0) to crash the server 16:44 sdzen if its a malignant thing then yes crash it 16:44 khonkhortisan it's a function to rotate the facedir on an axis, and I have if 1 elseif 2 elseif 3 and I have to decide what to do with any other numbers 16:45 sdzen just print an error 16:46 celeron55 use lua's error function 16:46 celeron55 it'll print an error and quit 16:46 khonkhortisan that works 16:47 celeron55 not completely failing in such a case is the reason why for example php is prone to very buggy shit 16:47 sdzen if its just rotating something, I wouldn't want it to quit 16:47 celeron55 sdzen: it's a programmer error, programmer errors should be made imemdiately visible to programmer 16:47 celeron55 in some way 16:47 Jordach khonkhortisan, make a random facedir if it goes over 16:47 celeron55 some error going by is not really such 16:48 khonkhortisan the error shows up just like a syntax error, I like it 16:50 celeron55 in some cases it makes sense to just print an error, but if you always do it like that, it results in bugs that are a combination of multiple odd behaviors and then it's a pain 16:52 celeron55 logging something is always much better than silently ignoring it though; that's like the root of all evil 16:55 mitori celeron55 you there? 16:56 khonkhortisan probably didn't leave in the last four minutes 16:56 * khonkhortisan runs off and errorifies his code 17:05 Jordach huh 17:05 Jordach hey OldCoder 17:24 khonkhortisan https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/107 can be closed 17:25 OldCoder Jordach, Hello 17:26 Jordach hello OldCoder 17:28 khonkhortisan https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/594 was not closed 17:33 FreeFull I still can't figure out how to add a server to favorites 17:33 Jordach FreeFull, anytime you join a server from the multiplayer tab, it automagically adds it to the list 17:34 rubenwardy It is broken 17:34 rubenwardy on windows 17:34 FreeFull Jordach: It doesn't do that for me, and I'm on Linux 17:34 khonkhortisan Adding too many ip-only favorite servers makes it difficult to actually use them, as there's no way to add owners' names to them. 17:35 Jordach FreeFull, modify /minetest/client/favoriteserver.txt and add this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5680480/ 17:35 Jordach FreeFull, what minetest version are you using 17:37 FreeFull 0.4.6 17:37 FreeFull Jordach: I'm using a system-wide install, not a local install 17:37 Jordach FreeFull, works for me as run in place 17:40 FreeFull Jordach: My client is in /usr/bin 17:44 FreeFull Where would the favoriteserver.txt go? ~/.minetest/ ? 17:50 Calinou hello, system-wide isntall user :P 17:51 mauvebic particlespawner uses the same id's over and over :P 17:52 mauvebic storing them in meta, and restarting the map, caused all sorts of confusion lol 17:52 mauvebic ie punch a smokestack to turn it on, another one turns off instead 17:53 mauvebic was hoping to avoid using a table indexed by pos 17:54 mauvebic is there any chance of randomizing id's? 17:54 mauvebic or making the id, a hash of the pos 17:54 mauvebic ugh, jeija's not even here lol 18:14 markveidemanis I will be hosting a TheWalls map on my server tell me if you want to join 18:15 markveidemanis i need 3 players 18:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: I already benchmarked moretrees. 18:22 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3898 18:22 VanessaE scroll to "Benchmarks", which were done with only plantlife and moretrees as the mods using that code. 18:23 VanessaE (/me skips the rest of the scrollback. tl;dr) 18:26 * Calinou is going to benchmark it :> 18:26 VanessaE have fun 18:26 VanessaE :) 18:26 Calinou btw, I got my new RAM, but I'm in single channel now :| 18:26 VanessaE ick 18:26 Calinou there is no impact on real world performance 18:27 VanessaE well, dual-channel is about 50% faster on my system 18:27 Calinou I never use ramdisks :P 18:27 VanessaE (as measured by the time required to test the RAM) 18:27 PilzAdam VanessaE, you should benchmark the default on_generated() to have something to compare with 18:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: I might do that at some point, but the code that generates those figures is entirely in plants_lib, so it would need an extra mod to properly benchmark it 18:29 Calinou nothing in console, really 18:29 Calinou also I'm not using luajit 18:30 Calinou the log "looks" normal, it has nothing else than world starting & stuff 18:30 VanessaE PilzAdam: that said, I believe hmmmm has already done some benchmarking of the mapgen and has it somewhere in the low double-digit millisecond range now, on average 18:30 PilzAdam yes, something from 0 to 19 ms 18:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: at any rate, I'm not sure I could benchmark on_generated() itself, that would need some C++ code. 18:35 Calinou VanessaE: dual-channel brings no improvement for me in read speeds, btw 18:35 PilzAdam I mean the on_generate() in the default mod 18:35 Calinou does it have any effet on read speeds for you? 18:35 mauvebic is using on_generated really that slow? 18:36 Calinou PilzAdam: idea: add an "offset" parameter to register_ore, so that we can offset the generated blocks 18:36 Calinou would allow generating flowers/cacti/papyrus with C++ 18:36 VanessaE Calinou: off, you should be seeing a measurable difference in speed. 18:36 VanessaE odd* 18:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: Oh! 18:36 Calinou 13990MB/s in sequential read 18:36 Calinou I had the same speed before 18:37 mauvebic 'cuz for me, i use the sapling, after_place() remove_node(self) minetest.after(0, ... spawntree() ..)) 18:37 Calinou (1600mhz C9 vs 1333mhz C9 x 2) 18:37 mauvebic and its pretty fast 18:38 mauvebic or why not use an abm on grass and let the mapgen do its work? 18:39 markveidemanis PING 18:53 GhostlyDeath Is there a command to tell you your current position? 18:55 RealBadAngel you mean lua function to get player pos? 18:55 RealBadAngel or you just want to know where you are? 18:55 NakedFury if its in the game its one of the F# keys 18:56 RealBadAngel f5 18:56 NakedFury yeah. that will show X, Y, and Z coords 18:57 GhostlyDeath thanks 18:59 STHGOM howdy! 19:01 FreeFull Jordach: I put the favoriteserver.txt in ~/.minetest/ and nothing 19:02 GhostlyDeath I discovered a giant chasm filled with magma 19:02 Jordach FreeFull, system wide installs dont often work :P 19:03 kaeza FreeFull, I think it goes into ~/.minetest/client/servers/favoriteservers.txt or smth like that 19:04 FreeFull I don't even have a client subdirectory in ~/.minetest/ right now 19:04 kaeza mkdir it? 19:04 whirm1 what settings should I modify to get more map chunks per second when on single player? 19:04 Jordach OW BITCH. 19:05 kaeza FreeFull, $ mkdir -p ~/.minetest/client/serverlist 19:06 FreeFull Nope, favorites still empty 19:07 kaeza FreeFull, dunno then. it works ok for me 19:07 STHGOM who made minetest-7DA0A66? 19:07 FreeFull kaeza: Which version do you have? I have 0.4.6 19:08 kaeza 0.4.6 pulled 5 seconds ago 19:11 kaeza hmm... now that you say it, it does not work in system-wide install 19:11 GhostlyDeath Is there a no clip key>? 19:12 GhostlyDeath hmm found it 19:12 kaeza J 19:12 FreeFull Well, that's useless for me then =P 19:13 kaeza let me rephrase that 19:13 kaeza I just found it does not work in system-wide install 19:13 kaeza I usually build run-in-place 19:15 STHGOM how does minetest handle falls? 19:16 kaeza ah well... so good support from #virtualbox. no one gave a shit about a legit question 19:16 STHGOM how fast you are falling? 19:17 kaeza offtopic: is it possible to make a chroot jail to compile stuff for other variant of Linux? 19:18 kaeza google is not my friend :( 19:21 GhostlyDeath after -30,912, I appear to have hit a wall 19:21 GhostlyDeath A wall of nothing, where droppable objects fall through 19:22 whirm1 kaeza: another distro? 19:22 kaeza whirm1, yeah 19:22 mauvebic google does suck lately lol 19:22 whirm1 kaeza: yes, you can 19:23 mauvebic getting alot of fake results generated from my search 19:23 whirm1 kaeza: mount --bind /dev choot/dev ; mount --bind /sys chroot/sys ; mount --bind /proc chroot/proc ; chroot chroot/ 19:23 Jordach mauvebic, not porn though! 19:23 kaeza mauvebic, they match words like "of" and such but do not match "supercallifragillisticexpialidocious" 19:24 STHGOM who has heard of google nose beta? 19:24 kaeza and their suggestions suck 19:25 kaeza whirm1, ...that's not exactly what I had in mind... 19:25 whirm1 kaeza: if you want to build for debian/ubuntu 32/64 bit from a debian/ubuntu, you can just use debootstrap to create the chroot, for other distros you will need to look for the equivalent command 19:25 whirm1 kaeza: what do you want? 19:26 kaeza whirm1, basically I have unpacked the files from the Puppy distro to a dir, and set that dr as root 19:26 kaeza dir* 19:26 kaeza I only need the libs, compiler, etc 19:27 whirm1 then the chroot thing would be what you want, right? 19:27 kaeza ah lol 19:27 kaeza I misread that 19:28 kaeza hrm... 19:28 mauvebic sounds complicated lol 19:28 kaeza I guess I'll just nuke my Puppy install and upgrade 19:28 Calinou scumbag kaeza: nuke puppy, install ubuntu 19:29 kaeza Calinou, I'm on Ubuntu :| 19:29 whirm1 mauvebic: nah, I have this script: http://paste.debian.net/247620/ , works like a charm :) 19:29 mauvebic i have one or two empty partitions to those ends, but i rarely use 'em 19:29 mauvebic oh no whirm1 i was referring to what kaeza was trying to do w/ puppy :p 19:29 * Calinou had 4 primary partitions on a MBR-formatted HDD 19:29 Calinou so pro 19:29 Calinou has* 19:29 kaeza Win7+Puppy+Ubuntu here 19:30 mauvebic your setup sounds even more complex lol 19:30 Jordach Calinou, same here 19:30 Jordach one of which is used for SWAP FILE 19:30 mauvebic just archbang here 19:30 mauvebic you guys break your dists' that often? 19:30 whirm1 then you don't want to look at mine... 19:30 Jordach mauvebic, i dont 19:31 mauvebic 3 OS's is overkill for me lol 19:31 mauvebic i have 3 computers instead XD 19:31 whirm1 I keep copying my debian from one machine to the other :D 19:31 mauvebic old, tiny, and newbie 19:31 Calinou first one: P4, 128MB RAM, second one: P4, 256MB RAM, third one: P5, 16GB RAM 19:31 kaeza mauvebic, Win for gamin, 'buntu for work, Puppy for nostalgia :'| 19:31 Calinou xubuntu for everything here :> 19:31 Jordach Calinou, high five 19:31 mauvebic most of my favorite games i got to work in wine 19:32 mauvebic if you check out the winehq, arch is usually top for all games 19:32 mauvebic gold/plat, 19:32 kaeza mauvebic, then plz tell me how to make Borderlands + GTA IV run under wine kthxbai 19:32 * Calinou is playing trackmania right now, in wine 19:32 Calinou runs perfect 8D 19:32 mauvebic dont have those games 19:32 Jordach anyone play TF2 in wine? 19:32 kaeza GTA IV is a fucking resource hog 19:33 mauvebic cities XL 2012, Simcity 4K, the sims and sim societies for the female, and 19:33 mauvebic homeworld2 19:33 Calinou Jordach: last time I did was in 2011 or so 19:33 mauvebic what else 19:33 Calinou now I play it native 19:33 Calinou in wine, you'll get freezes when entering water 19:33 whirm1 Jordach: TF2 is available for linux 19:33 mauvebic alot of newer games i played for very brief periods (theyre getting worse like TV) lol 19:33 Calinou and random black polygons on weapons/pickups 19:34 kaeza mauvebic, Sim Ant :D 19:34 mauvebic pretty soon youll need microtransactions to pause the bloody thing so i dont bother anymore lol 19:35 Calinou we should add that to minetest 19:35 Calinou pay $1 + 1 mese block if you want to pause 19:35 kaeza I have BL, GTA4, Warcraft3, Diablo (1, not 3), Doom 3, and CS 1.6 19:35 mauvebic and is it just me, or are graphics evolving much slower than in the 90s? 19:36 kaeza ^^^ 19:36 mauvebic alot of games *are* old but don't feel it lately 19:36 kaeza well, you can see a real transition from say Doom to Quake 19:36 Calinou mauvebic: they kinda are 19:36 mauvebic meh, either way, im slowly transforming my minetest into a combo simcity/railroad tycoon/star trek game lol 19:37 Calinou metro 2033 devs approve 19:37 NakedFury the graphics are evolving as fast as the consoles do 19:37 Calinou game that can't run at max settings in 1920×1080 with 60 fps or more... on a titan 19:37 kaeza but recent games look like made with GM or some shit like that 19:37 kaeza they look all similar 19:37 mauvebic i was surprised that Cities XL 2012 runs on the P4 and runs decently 19:37 Calinou NakedFury: soon, we'll have the PS4, where actually optimized games will land, unlike the PC where there are intentional bottlenecks (conspiracy? :D) 19:37 Calinou PS4 = its GPU will have similar perf to a HD 7850 19:38 mauvebic DRM: making games so shitty, pirates (and consumers) dont bother lol 19:38 Calinou try to run a game in 1920×1080 at max settings on an HD 7850 19:38 NakedFury the PS4 and Xbox 3 are just severely limited PCs without any ability to customize them and you have to pay extra for online play 19:38 mauvebic i hear the new simcity is as bad as sim societies 19:38 NakedFury its bad mauvebic 19:38 Calinou the new simcity is a simulation of chypre 19:38 Calinou or whatever that country is called in english 19:38 Calinou :p 19:38 NakedFury horrible pathfinding of cars 19:38 Calinou go to the bank, get your money, fast 19:39 mauvebic Cyprus :P 19:39 mauvebic Chypres en francais 19:39 NakedFury bugged and glitched to hell. I saw a video of a city without any utilities work out 100% 19:39 NakedFury you need online all the time to even play it. maps are very small 19:40 NakedFury and other players can go to your city and deploy disasters or delete it 19:40 mauvebic what happens when the servers go offline? 19:40 NakedFury you are fucked 19:40 NakedFury ^^ 19:40 NakedFury dont waste your time and keep playing sim city 4 or cities xl 19:40 mauvebic so theres no use in *buying* a game like that, you dont really own it and cant play it once they decide youre done 19:40 NakedFury yep 19:41 mauvebic its an excellent time for indie devs to wipe the floor with those big companies lol 19:41 Jordach mauvebic, and you wonder why Minecrap done so well 19:41 Calinou indie games have shit graphics, just like FOSS games 19:41 Calinou I see "tri-sli 680 owner" saying: "lol shit graphics looks like a game from 1999" 19:42 * Jordach looks at a few xbox 360 indie games 19:42 mauvebic i can deal with shittier graphics much more than i can deal with shitty gameplay 19:42 Calinou guess why few people play red eclipse 19:42 NakedFury we just need a truly indie city simulator to wipe sim city and maxis and ea out of business 19:42 Calinou Jordach: there are no indie games on consoles 19:42 mauvebic nodebox texture glitches haven't driven me away from here 19:42 Calinou you need to be approved or such to have a game on a console 19:42 Jordach Calinou, xbox 360 has them 19:42 Calinou without homebrew 19:42 Jordach theyre download only 19:42 Calinou "homebrew" sounds like notch making speed potions 19:42 mauvebic maxis as it existed during sc2-3-4 doesnt really exist anymore 19:42 NakedFury yeah 19:43 NakedFury they died 19:43 NakedFury sold their souls. just like DICE 19:43 jojoa1997|Tablet when your inv is full do items drop when you dig them? 19:43 mauvebic well, can you blame them? if you could cash out multi-million style, wouldn't you? 19:43 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, NAW SHIT 19:44 NakedFury no if it meant making real shit games and seeing my fans say shit stuff about me in every forum possible 19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet what 19:44 * kaeza sees c55 selling MT to EA 19:44 mauvebic yeah but by then youre in your villa somewhere in the meditarrenean (sp) 19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet i think a good option to add to the game is item_pickup 19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet not drop but pickup 19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet and a smaller pickup range 19:44 kaeza fuck.no. 19:44 kaeza ....maybe 19:45 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm 19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet like you stand on top of it 19:45 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down 19:45 mauvebic i mean thats what the tech bubble was all about, bullshit businesses by people hoping to be bought-out before anyone realized lol 19:46 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm 19:46 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.261ms) 19:46 mauvebic facebook IPO: only the techies saw that coming 19:46 Jordach dante123, if you need a permaserver, i can host one for you 19:46 NakedFury the problem with EA in this case is that they are blinded by short term cash from all this horrible games they are making while if they thought in the long term and making good games and not whoring them out then it would be even better 19:46 mauvebic well theyre not making games for adults 19:47 mauvebic they make games for the annoying children who hassle their parents for more items/expansion packs 19:47 NakedFury stupid parents 19:47 mauvebic microtransactions are just cheap enough that parents will buy the peace 19:47 mauvebic older teens/young adults obviously have bills/debts to pay 19:48 dante123 Jordach, I may take you up on that offer...at a later time. In a hurry right now but will chat with you later. Thanks. 19:48 mauvebic and its no different then say, the last two star trek tv series where they basically rehashed the same stories to sell more gear 19:51 mauvebic thats whats fun about minetest though mods aren't written for a little extra scratch 19:52 mauvebic in MC they might sell you the toilet and the toilet paper separately lol 19:52 mauvebic (dont touch the leaves on jordach's server :P) 19:55 mauvebic anyone wrote a steam engine? 19:55 kaeza yes, Valve 19:55 mauvebic no lol 19:55 mauvebic minetest steam engine, like coal-powered 19:55 kaeza jordan4ibanez had a model 19:55 mauvebic i wrote a smokegen for the funnels, but id like it to be relatable to steam engine 19:56 kaeza I don't know what he did with it 19:56 mauvebic just the model? thats okay 19:56 mauvebic i can write some code, (repeated effort = wasted effort) 19:56 kaeza IIRC it was a modification of carts mod with a steam engine model 19:57 mauvebic i think he did that for my 3d rails lol 19:57 mauvebic got a few train models too of varying poly count 19:57 kaeza I still have he model around I think 19:57 kaeza the* 19:58 mauvebic though i wish the collision/selection box would rotate with the bloody entity lol 19:58 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/engine.x 19:58 mauvebic anything rectangular shape is borked 19:58 mauvebic thanks 19:58 kaeza np 19:59 mauvebic steam-powered pistons :D 19:59 mauvebic surprised no one wrote a steampunk mod 19:59 mauvebic the visual style is nice 20:00 mauvebic and its a century or two removed from mesecons and closer to default minetest medieval period 20:01 mauvebic Oh forgot: particlespawner fires look NICE, but can you have them as light sources? 20:01 NakedFury im back 20:02 NakedFury a few weeks ago there was an indie sim city project on kickstarter: civitas. it planned to have modding, extensive terrain editors 20:02 kaeza wb NakedFury 20:02 NakedFury but the owner took it out 20:02 kaeza mauvebic, this is the source blender file if you need it: http://opengameart.org/content/electric-mine-locomotive 20:03 mauvebic yeah though 90% of kickstarts never reach their funding goal (says /.) 20:03 kaeza whoops 20:03 kaeza it's electric, not steam powered 20:03 NakedFury the problem I see with trains is that they would have to be bigger than the player to look right 20:04 NakedFury and making them 1 block wide seems ridiculous 20:04 mauvebic and the visual_scale bug is still there :/ 20:04 mauvebic standard gauge is 1.44m wide 20:05 mauvebic trains are wider obvs 20:06 mauvebic and while attach is nice, its not really enough in this case 20:06 mauvebic we need to be able to move in moving structures (be it nodeboxes or meshes) 20:06 NakedFury I think for proper train set we would end up needing atleast a minimum of 2 wide. at least 1 for the alley where you can walk inside the train car and the other for seats or storage 20:07 mauvebic so technically, if the thing youre standing on is moving, then you should be moving with it, and if youre moving within it, then theres that law on relativity that gets tricky lol 20:07 mauvebic i guess this all relates to gravity 20:08 mauvebic though thankfully with 3d rails i wouldn't need to follow the track, the train would simple move forward or backwards and the rails themselves would limit the range of motion 20:09 mauvebic i setup the titanic next to the railway (supplies) and am gonna build this shipyard: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Britannic_launching_postcard.jpg 20:10 NakedFury what we need is that while inside a device that is moving we can move freely without feeling any preassure or having our chaacter move back as if pushed or something 20:10 STHGOM has john_minetest been on latley? 20:11 mauvebic yeah, and not just hand for trains, but elevators and such too 20:11 mauvebic planes, ships 20:11 mauvebic perhaps node groupings with vel/acc 20:11 proller SPAM - http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69801#p69801 20:12 NakedFury yep. any type of vehicle or moving device 20:12 mauvebic though, fat chance of seeing that, most people are already running on fumes with 8,12,18 gigs of ram lol 20:13 mauvebic i only need 210mb for the client & server 20:13 kaeza spammers gonna spam 20:13 STHGOM spamspamspamspamspam 20:13 kaeza at least this one was less obvious 20:14 STHGOM what counts as spam here? 20:15 mauvebic anything pointless 20:15 STHGOM like this?: 20:15 STHGOM lamas taste good 20:15 mauvebic yep 20:15 STHGOM when there nice and crispy 20:16 STHGOM and basted in jelly beans 20:16 mauvebic its a waste of time for the readers and a waste of time for the mods who have to clean it up 20:16 mauvebic tho they have a shit-ton more patience than i do lol 20:16 kaeza mauvebic, if pointless stuff were spam, this entire channel would've been banned long ago :) 20:16 mauvebic we get OT here sometimes but the conversation goes back to MT fast enough 20:17 STHGOM no lamas on #minetest 20:17 mauvebic talking about pointless forum threads/post taking up space and bandwidth 20:17 mauvebic dont think xyz gets paid to host the forums 20:19 STHGOM hello 20:22 Jordach mauvebic, dont touch the leaves???? 20:24 mauvebic TP mod :P 20:24 Jordach mauvebic, remember sim city 2000, with the doom orb? 20:24 mauvebic doom orb? 20:26 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYt_-tC0GOw 20:26 mauvebic despite the shitty graphics its still a pretty complex game 20:27 mauvebic wasnt crazy about a million plus water pumps 20:27 mauvebic though i miss the dams 20:28 NakedFury I miss Maxis 20:29 mauvebic though dams aren't much more possible in MT, all water sources are at the same level 20:33 NakedFury generate high lvl water sources for rivers, waterfalls, and lakes 20:33 GhostlyDeath I should create a Nuclear Bomb mod heh 20:33 GhostlyDeath Destroys everything within 5,000 radius 20:33 mauvebic uhm, i cant even tell the diff between SC4K and the the new simcity lol 20:34 mauvebic (graphics-wise) 20:34 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I tried nick completion and it only worked for my player nick 20:35 GhostlyDeath Is there a base tutorial for the development of mods? 20:36 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, do you have latest version? 20:37 ShadowNinja yes, at least on the client, the server is stable 20:40 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: it seems your commit was all client-side, does the server version matter? 20:40 PilzAdam nope 20:40 PilzAdam its client side 20:44 mauvebic ugh, MC steam engines are fugly 20:45 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: it is working on my server, seems it does require latest server 20:47 proller GhostlyDeath, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=638 but you cant destroy 5000r in few days 20:49 STHGOM join #RC 20:49 STHGOM sry 20:49 STHGOM just seeing what channels there are 21:03 kaeza bbl 21:04 STHGOM byebye 21:11 Kacey goddamnit teamviewer 21:17 Kacey (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #minetest 21:18 NotReallyNick Yes, I joined. What of it? Am I not allowed here any more? 21:18 * NotReallyNick sadly turns to leave 21:19 Kacey lol no it still says us_0gb 21:19 Jordach NotReallyNick, why are you using that nick?# 21:20 NotReallyNick I think that is attached to my computer account name or something. 21:20 Jordach ./nick us_0gb 21:20 NotReallyNick So I'd have to log in as a different user on my computer to fix that. 21:20 NotReallyNick Nah, you don't want to be us_0gb. 21:27 us_0gb Kacey: What did it say when I joined? 21:27 us_0gb I don't see what you see from my client. 21:28 NakedFury * us_0gb (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #minetest 21:29 us_0gb Still us_0gb? Okay. This makes no sense ..... 21:30 us_0gb On this computer, underscores are no allowed, so I'm us0gb. 21:30 us_0gb *not 21:47 paxcoder PilzAdam, what's the sytax to checkout 0.4.6 again? 21:47 GhostlyDeath oops 21:47 GhostlyDeath Started a forest fire 21:47 PilzAdam paxcoder, from git? 21:47 paxcoder ye 21:47 PilzAdam git checkout 0.4.6 21:48 paxcoder PilzAdam, git checkout 0.4.5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git ? 21:49 paxcoder *.6 21:49 PilzAdam have you set up the upstream repo as a remote in your local repo? 21:50 paxcoder sec 21:51 paxcoder wait cloning -_- 21:52 NotReallyNick Yay! Someone updated the link on the homepage to point to https://github.com/minetest, not https://github.com/minetest/minetest. 21:53 paxcoder NotReallyNick, don't you mean the other way around? 21:53 NotReallyNick No. They switch to the shorter address. 21:54 NotReallyNick Which is easier for navigation. 21:54 paxcoder minetest_game, right? 21:55 NotReallyNick I often want to go to minetest/common, but following the old link, I'd end up at minetest/minetest, then go to minetest, then go to minetest/common. 21:55 NotReallyNick No, not minetest_game. 21:56 NotReallyNick The link used to point to the engine, now it points to the whole Minetest project. 21:56 paxcoder k 22:00 Jordach NotReallyNick, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-04-05#i_2990052 22:01 Jordach NotReallyNick, you can thank me later 22:02 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 22:03 NotReallyNick Well then, thank you Jordach! When the game was still in celeron55's personal repository, it made sense to link to the engine, but with the separate repository we have no, it makes a lot more sense to link to the whole project. 22:03 NotReallyNick *now 22:03 Jordach separate repositories* 22:03 Jordach not repository 22:03 Jordach there are 5 repos 22:03 Jordach IIRC 22:04 NotReallyNick Okay. The repository isn't the right word, because I don't mean plural. 22:04 NotReallyNick Account, maybe? 22:04 NotReallyNick *then 22:05 Jordach NotReallyNick, more like organisation 22:05 Jordach we really need a proper minetest help desk 22:05 NotReallyNick Okay. So celeron55 is an organization? 22:06 sdzen see wiki 22:06 sdzen :P 22:06 Jordach NotReallyNick, https://github.com/minetest is an organisation 22:06 Jordach https://github.com/celeronxyz is not 22:06 Jordach the minetest group has several people in it, while celeronxyz is only celeronxyz 22:07 NotReallyNick In any cast, the minetest stuff was removed from "/celeron55/" to "/minetest/". Whatever word I'm looing for covers both "/celeron55/" AND "/minetest/". 22:07 NotReallyNick *case 22:07 Jordach looking for* 22:07 Jordach looing for sounds like your in need 22:07 NotReallyNick Yeah, that too. 22:07 Jordach no ctcp time? honestly 22:08 NotReallyNick Also, *Minetest, for the one that isn't a directory name. 22:08 Jordach NotReallyNick, im rather lazy, so deal with it 22:08 * Jordach puts on shades 22:08 NotReallyNick Deal with what? I was correctiong my OWN lack of capitalization. 22:08 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=Rp6-wG5LLqE&gl=GB 22:09 Jordach ^ thats the tune to me putting on shades 22:09 NotReallyNick I see. 22:09 NotReallyNick I didn't realize putting on shades required a tune. I'll keep that in mind for next time I put some on. 22:10 Jordach NotReallyNick, it just adds emphasis 22:10 NotReallyNick Ah. Good to know. 22:10 Jordach anyways, time for a full image update 22:11 * Jordach is updating Minetest forum graphic 22:11 NotReallyNick Oh, nice. 22:12 NotReallyNick Give is a red banner at the top. Possibly with a star. 22:12 ShadowNinja VanessaE: can you please make the xsigns in homedecor use the infotext, it is very usefull on long signs 22:12 Jordach ShadowNinja, tell me about it 22:13 NotReallyNick Definitely. The lack of infotext is difficult, even on short text, let alone long text. 22:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/4zyl5ta.png 22:14 * Jordach needs to crop this bastard 22:14 NotReallyNick Is that you? 22:14 Jordach yes and yes 22:14 NotReallyNick So ... you call yourself a bastard? 22:14 Jordach as in, image file 22:15 * NotReallyNick giggles 22:15 NotReallyNick I guess that image never really did have a father. 22:16 Jordach NotReallyNick, good reference 22:16 * Jordach knows that Austin Powers joke 22:17 * NotReallyNick has never seen Austin Powers, and did not intentionally reference it 22:18 Jordach NotReallyNick, ever seen Iron Man? 22:18 ShadowNinja hmmmm, PilzAdam: Can you please pull this, I think everyone was okay with it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/578 22:19 NotReallyNick Jordach: No, I don't watch movies. 22:19 Jordach :(# 22:19 Jordach -# 22:19 Jordach i just noticed how much my tache looks like Tony Stark 22:19 iqualfragile http://howfarisittomars.com/ wow, its far to mars 22:19 NotReallyNick Aw. I didn't mean to hit your chin that hard. Or at all. 22:22 Jordach iqualfragile, thats the most smooth html5 anim ever 22:22 iqualfragile yeah, ruskie would enjoy it 22:22 Jordach NotReallyNick, http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?section=about&id=332 22:23 Jordach NotReallyNick, the other week, my beard was 7cm long 22:23 * NotReallyNick forgot that his cheesebread was in the oven, and now it is black 22:23 Jordach NotReallyNick, go order a subway 22:24 NotReallyNick Too expensive. 22:24 NotReallyNick What am I looking for on your profile? 22:25 Jordach new image 22:25 * Jordach used to be black and white 22:25 Jordach this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81752#p81752 22:26 NotReallyNick Ah, okay. I don't look at profiles often, so I didn't see the old image. Or at least, I don't remember the old image. 22:27 NotReallyNick Hmm. That's an interesting proposal. 22:27 NotReallyNick Is there a way to respawn still? 22:27 Jordach yes 22:27 Jordach through esc. menu 22:28 Jordach i just spotted a bad ass user: Cheesus 22:29 Jordach and one of my WINNING! posts: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81764#p81764 22:29 Jordach (winning as in, best reply yet.) 22:31 NotReallyNick Hmm. Why does fire burn away torches? The fire on the torches themselves never burns them away. 22:32 NotReallyNick Add two "m"s to that. My bad. 22:32 Jordach hmmm. 22:32 Jordach hmmmm. 22:34 * NotReallyNick prepares to issue a post containing the names of everyone in the room 22:34 * Jordach facepalms 22:34 Jordach huh, we passed the 100 users mark in here 22:34 NotReallyNick Yay! I'll get a lot of peoples' attention when I do that then. 22:35 * Jordach hugs Gambit 22:35 * NotReallyNick IS Gambit 22:35 Gambit "I'm not the Gambit from the minetest forums" 22:35 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Only enqueue falling nodes if they really want to fall 97f0bb0342 2013-04-05T13:33:11-07:00 http://git.io/x0gJfw 22:36 Jordach Gambit, not that 22:36 mauvebic https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/605 duplicate? 22:36 Gambit lol okay 22:36 paxcoder PilzAdam, thanks btw 22:36 Jordach Gambit, whos that i see idling in that other game 22:37 PilzAdam paxcoder, hm? 22:37 paxcoder PilzAdam, i checked out .6 22:37 Gambit Jordach: hmmm? 22:37 PilzAdam oh yea 22:37 Jordach look in your other channel 22:37 Jordach :P 22:37 PilzAdam paxcoder, the tags for the version are also set in the other repos 22:37 Jordach there, now check 22:37 NotReallyGambit Gambit: You missed an "m". 22:38 paxcoder PilzAdam, yeah, i figured (did it for minetest_game) 22:38 paxcoder thanks 22:38 PilzAdam you should also do for survival, build and common 22:38 mauvebic any fixes for map_meta.txt being rewritten? 22:38 PilzAdam (if you have these= 22:38 PilzAdam *) 22:38 sapier1 can someone tell me what staticize is? 22:38 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: did you see what I wrote 22:38 * VanessaE pokes Jordach 22:39 NotRealy01234567 I get eight characters. Perfect. 22:39 ShadowNinja +? 22:39 Gambit Jordach: I'm so confused 22:39 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, hm? 22:39 VanessaE ShadowNinja: re: signs info text...I have no idea how to do that; pull requests welcome. 22:39 Jordach hey VanessaE 22:39 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Can you please pull this, I think everyone was okay with it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/578 22:39 Jordach Gambit, dinnerbone 22:39 Jordach *wink* 22:39 NotReallyPilzAda Oops, I missed an "l", so I only get seven. Not enough. 22:39 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, hmmmm wasnt sure about it IIRC 22:41 mauvebic ^ annoying 22:41 NotReallyJordach What is? 22:41 mauvebic pick a name and stick with it :p 22:41 Gambit You need a #minetest-dev :P 22:41 NotReallyJordach Nah. One name is too few. 22:42 Gambit from which you can boot the children 22:42 VanessaE we have such. 22:42 mauvebic no reason not to boot them here too :p 22:42 mauvebic some kids are mature beyond their years, and some adults never matured :p 22:43 NotReallyJordach True enough. 22:43 sdzen ello 22:43 * sdzen might be a child 22:43 Kacey i am theyoungest on irc ^_^ 22:43 sdzen I don't remember anymore :) 22:43 Kacey the youngest* 22:43 * Jordach has greatest intelligence 22:43 * Jordach just shit at english 22:44 * NotReallyJordach is not really Jordach 22:44 * Kacey speak english good 22:44 Jordach NotReallyJordach, naw shit 22:44 * NotReallyJordach is an imposter! 22:45 sdzen quel âge êtes-vous? 22:45 Jordach VanessaE, let /kick do the talking 22:45 sdzen sapier! 22:45 * NotReally0gb_us giggles 22:45 VanessaE now I'm all confused. 22:45 sdzen I have something to tell you! 22:45 Jordach VanessaE, look at the not really ** list and kick em 22:45 NotReally0gb_us What? No! 22:46 mauvebic jesus 22:46 VanessaE "_ 22:46 Jordach and everyone goes to normal 22:46 VanessaE :) 22:46 paxcoder 'There is no any "cmake clean".' *facepalm* 22:46 NotReallyNick My usual nick contains "NotReally". 22:46 sapier :-) I thought I was in stealth mode now ;-) 22:46 sapier what do you wanna tell me sdzen? 22:46 VanessaE 0gb: bah, just use us_0gb like usual 22:46 sokomine hi :-) 22:46 paxcoder fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 22:46 NotReallyKacey *trollface* 22:46 VanessaE hey soko 22:47 NotReallyNick VanessaE: us_0gb is in the wrong order. 22:47 sdzen http://pastebin.com/NjmgAwJm 22:47 VanessaE paxcoder: rm CMakeCache.txt 22:47 sdzen this 22:47 VanessaE I think. 22:47 VanessaE 0gb: so start with a _ 22:47 VanessaE _0gb_us 22:47 VanessaE afaik that is allowed 22:47 sapier wich version? 22:47 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Besides, my name is pretty meaningless without the dot. 22:47 sdzen I don't remember 22:47 sdzen not very old though 22:47 paxcoder VanessaE, yay! thanks 22:47 sapier stable or developmentß 22:47 sdzen hmmm 22:48 sdzen I think development 22:48 sdzen foreign keyboard settings sapier? 22:48 VanessaE NotReallyNick: so use _0gb_dot_us ;-) 22:48 sdzen the ß 22:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/16 22:49 * Jordach goes to register nicks 22:49 sapier no just same key and missed shift by sime milliseconds ;-) ... at least to me it's not foreign ;-) 22:49 NotReallyNick It's equally meaningless if you spell out the dot. It's a domain name, after all. 22:49 sdzen true 22:50 sapier line 135 doesn't contain anything that can be nil in current dev version ... difficult to find out what went wrong in your version sdzen 22:51 ShadowNinja Jordach: -970299? 22:51 VanessaE ShadowNinja: merged. 22:51 Jordach my only complaint with linux is that when i switch from caps lock quickly, the next letter is a capital 22:51 Jordach VanessaE, i just grabbed a new user image 22:51 NotReallyNick I don't have that issue on Ubuntu. 22:51 Jordach NotReallyNick, i use xubuntu 22:51 VanessaE Jordach: um..cool? 22:52 NotReallyNick Hmm. i don't know then. 22:52 Jordach im up late and bored 22:52 sapier hmm maybe some lines later .... thx sdzen at least I've fixed another bug near that line ;-) 22:52 * Jordach only woke up about 12:40PM 22:53 VanessaE ShadowNinja: you may want to add something to translate "|" into a line break; can infotext display multiple lines? 22:54 Jordach yes 22:54 Jordach doesnt mesecons use multilines for digilings 22:54 Jordach digilines 22:54 NotReallyNick Infotext displays multiple lines, but I don't think it uses \n. 22:54 VanessaE Jordach: dunno, never used digilines. 22:54 NotReallyNick Me neither. 22:55 NotReallyNick I remember when mesecons alone where the hot thing. 22:55 Jordach NotReallyNick, i remember the day when it came out 22:55 * Jordach was THERE 22:55 * NotReallyNick was not really there 22:55 Jordach clever, 22:55 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I think so, one minute 22:55 Jordach ShadowNinja, 24/12/11 22:55 Jordach is the first post 22:57 NotReallyNick That's okay though. In my server world, I use just the stuff from common, and in my private world, I have mesecons, but I almost never build with them. SO I guess I don't need to keep tabs on mesecons. 22:57 NotReallyNick *So 22:57 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=2022#p2022 <-- n00b spotted :-) 22:58 Jordach and f5 22:58 PilzAdam this is my first post: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2451 23:00 Jordach hehe# 23:02 Jordach if i never cleaned my gmail inbox, it would have 3000+ from github. 23:02 mauvebic ugh, should have laid floor tiles before the lights lol 23:03 NotReallyNick I had to disable emails from Github. I never check my email, and I check the notifications on Github daily. 23:05 ShadowNinja VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/pull/17 23:05 VanessaE merged 23:06 NotReallyNick Yay! 23:06 * NotReallyNick likes working signs 23:06 NotReallyNick Or should that be: 23:07 * NotReallyNick does really like working signs 23:07 NotReallyNick I'm still getting used to this name and its style of speech. 23:09 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Didn't you merge some functionality into pipeworks to make it move liquids on its own? 23:10 VanessaE NotReallyNick: mauvebic wrote that 23:10 NotReallyNick Yes, but is it in standard pipeworks now? 23:10 VanessaE it can make liquids at the pump appear at the output of a pipe, but the nodes aren 23:10 VanessaE aren't actually moved. 23:11 VanessaE so far it only works with water (still waiting for mauvebic to rewrite his latest code to fit my code style so he can pull-request it :) ) 23:11 NotReallyNick So it isn't in yet? Okay. 23:11 VanessaE no 23:13 NotReallyNick You sure do have a lot of content. It makes me feel kind of silly, I only have one thing. 23:14 VanessaE I have a few contributors to thank for some of it :-) 23:14 NotReallyNick Nice. 23:14 NotReallyNick Oh, how good are you at using advanced Github features? 23:16 VanessaE I suck at it :) 23:17 NotReallyNick Okay, thanks anyway then. ☺ 23:17 Taoki BTW. I found out a new method of trolling in MineTest which just happened to me on a server. Trolls can dig holes in stone. If a new player falls in them without either a pickaxe or nodes to put under themselves, and there's no command to teleport to spawn or otherwise, you're stuck there 23:18 NotReallyNick True. Which is part of why I added a /die command to my server. 23:18 VanessaE which is why I have a /spawn command, and set/go home commands, and no interact by default 23:18 NotReallyNick That, and so people don't get trapped in THEIR OWN holes. 23:19 Taoki This one doesn't seem to have die either 23:19 NotReallyNick The set/go home only helps if that is set in a safe place. Your /spawn command is perfect for escapes though. 23:20 NotReallyNick Also, the fact that you give players fly by default. 23:26 ShadowNinja hmm, chanserv seems to be down 23:30 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, the people on #freenode say its a netsplit 23:31 ShadowNinja yep, saw 23:39 Jordach i dont often get mad, but when i do, its a infinite barrage