Time Nick Message 00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet sure 00:01 Kacey k let me set up the world 00:01 mauvebic LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jC1VrN96Yg&list=UUt3Ag7rdgR6mtzOMEhd_v6g&index=9 00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet nonono 00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant 00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet well maybe 00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet i say in 10 minutes 00:03 Kacey afk dinner 00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet kkkkkkkkkkkkk 00:07 Exio btw, "building" floating islands with the new generate_ore is pretty funny 00:07 Exio you can make "pseudo floating blobs of stone with dirt" with they :P 00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet mAkE a MOd 00:08 Kacey server is being laggy... 00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet floeting blocbs of every blocks. set with half earth grav and jump heaven 00:09 Exio ehm wtf you wrote? 00:10 mauvebic oh dear lol "Samoa airline introduces pay-by-weight pricing on first international flight to US territory" 00:10 jojoa1997|Tablet floating blobs of every block 00:10 jojoa1997|Tablet set gravity to 4.5 00:10 jojoa1997|Tablet 4.56 00:11 jojoa1997|Tablet and then it is jump heaven 00:15 Exio Kacey: pls 00:16 Exio why VERSION? 00:16 Exio (just checked in the status window, i have them blocked) 00:16 Kacey lol never got a reply 00:16 Exio using weechat-dev 00:16 Exio the lastest, should be 00:17 Exio WeeChat uptime: 13 days 07:32:15, started on Wed Mar 20 13:44:50 2013 00:18 Kacey uugh i need inventory_warp but download link is not working... 00:20 jojoa1997|Tablet im back 00:20 jojoa1997|Tablet hehehe 00:21 Exio huehuehue* 00:24 jojoa1997|Tablet who is backup coder in minetest-dev 00:25 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant wait for mapgen7 00:25 Exio [Backup.Coder] (~BackupCod@unaffiliated/oldcoder) 00:25 jojoa1997|Tablet biomes will be soo easy to define or so i heard 00:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean has he done anything or is he one of those untalking people like moruk or V0id or Weedy_lappy 00:27 Weedy_lappy > lurk 00:27 Weedy_lappy > me 00:27 Weedy_lappy jojoa1997|Tablet: you wot mate 00:27 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: don't random highlight everyone 00:27 Exio s/everyone/& who doesn't talk/ 00:27 Weedy_lappy DO YOU EVEN LIFT? 00:27 Exio hahaha 00:27 Weedy_lappy :v 00:27 jojoa1997|Tablet hay i had to make weedy_lappy say something 00:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i always see him/her/it? on 00:28 Exio being annoying you can do that stuff easily 00:28 Kacey anyone have the link for inventory warp? 00:28 Exio if you are busy and you get a random highlight at night where you live 00:29 Exio s|and|&/or| 00:34 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan 00:35 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez makea squid and skeleton mod for minitest please 00:35 jojoa1997|Tablet and 00:35 jordan4ibanez nu 00:36 jojoa1997|Tablet well make these mobs http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mobs 00:36 jordan4ibanez no 00:36 jojoa1997|Tablet jk i am not going to make you 00:37 OldCoder Hi 00:37 Exio hi OldCoder :) 00:37 NakedFury make some completely different monster 00:37 Exio called jojoa? 00:38 Exio "OH NOES, A JOJOA IS COMING, RUN!!!!!111!!one1!" 00:38 NakedFury heck dont even have chickens, have turkeys or duck. duck drop eggs and can be eaten 00:38 mauvebic jesus you could freeze your asterisk off outside today 00:40 Exio NakedFury: well, the problem for what i "know" is the laggy-ness of them 00:42 * jojoa1997|Tablet IM COMING FOR YOUR DIAMOND TOOLS 00:42 NakedFury I was talking for when that problem is resolved 00:42 Exio ah 00:42 jojoa1997|Tablet IM COMING FOR YOUR ENTITY ON THE SERVER HE . . . HE . . . HE . . . 00:43 NakedFury Ducks, Bulls, Rams, mammoths. instead of cows, chickens, pigs, sheep 00:44 jojoa1997|Tablet but minecraft got all the basic animals 00:44 jojoa1997|Tablet no fair 00:46 jordan4ibanez I think chip from chips challenge should be a mob 00:46 jordan4ibanez when he tries to go into a wall he'll make his sound 00:46 jordan4ibanez "HEESK" 00:52 rarkenin Chips Challenge mobs should be node-based... 00:52 jordan4ibanez what's the chance that minetest could be run completely in ram? 00:53 NakedFury isnt that minecafts job? to use ram like crazy? 00:54 Exio minecraft is slow as hell, but uses less ram than MT 00:54 jordan4ibanez well no, but for people like me who have ram to shit upon, could there be a "ram_overload = true" in the conf or something 00:54 jordan4ibanez exio: is the data base saved in ram, and then saved onto the hard disk? 00:55 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: well my minetest and vanessa_game together are about 150 MB, add in the mondo texture pack I use and the usage of the server, that would need about a 500MB RAMdisk to cover it, plus 8GB of free RAM above that. 00:55 VanessaE so yeah, you could run MT entirely from RAM, even with very high settings 00:55 jordan4ibanez That would be very cool, I wish it were possible, it would speed it up like crazy 00:55 VanessaE well, 1GB RAMdisk including the world files. 00:56 Exio jordan4ibanez: mount a ramdisk 00:56 Exio copy the stuff "for running mt" to it 00:56 VanessaE it IS possible, it's just a matter of how often you opt to sync the RAMdisk to local storage 00:56 Exio => profit 00:56 VanessaE and how much time you want to spend loading it from disk to RAM 00:56 jordan4ibanez Good idea! 00:57 Exio then you make "cron" backups to the disk every 10 minutes or so 00:57 mauvebic just watched The Sweeney trailer, cant understand anything with cockney accents lol 00:57 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: so for a server + large world + lightweight client with minimal or no texture pack + tons of mods, a 1-2GB RAMdisk and 1-2GB free RAM above that should be plenty. 00:57 Exio to copy the data what got modified (but with the map it is going to be... slow?) 00:57 Exio VanessaE: :( i don't even have 100 mb free 00:58 Exio my system is ..using.. 4100MB of the 3900 it can use 00:58 VanessaE Exio: rsync will help to some small degree, but really the whole database is one big file so there's not much you can do but copy the whole thing. 00:58 Exio (swap.. :P) 00:58 Exio VanessaE: yep, that is why i said "slow?" 00:58 VanessaE Exio: download it from RAM back to persistent storage once a night, should take less than 5 mins even if the world is a gig or more. 01:15 * Kacey is going to play some legit build for a while. anyone want to join? 01:18 jordan4ibanez nu 01:22 Kacey hi Menche 01:23 Menche hi 01:23 jordan4ibanez hi menche 01:24 jordan4ibanez menche 01:24 jordan4ibanez menche 01:24 jordan4ibanez menche 01:24 Menche hello 01:24 jordan4ibanez hi 01:25 jordan4ibanez infinite conversation loop 01:25 Menche hello 01:25 jordan4ibanez hey 01:25 Menche hi 01:25 jordan4ibanez howdy 01:25 Menche heeey 01:25 Exio xD 01:26 jordan4ibanez I forgot what to say 01:26 jordan4ibanez oh right, hi 01:26 jordan4ibanez https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/chips2 01:26 Kacey Menche, HAVEYOU SEEN MY HOUSE ON YOUR SERVER? 01:26 Kacey lol sorry 01:27 Menche the one that replaced your wool square? 01:27 Menche yeah 01:28 Kacey have you seen inside? 01:29 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 01:29 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 seems to be down 01:29 Menche ??? 01:30 jordan4ibanez OUCH! 01:30 jordan4ibanez THAT'S GOING TO HURT HIS SCORE! 01:30 Menche argh, must have crashed 01:31 jordan4ibanez WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS JOHNNY? 01:31 notjohnny I THINK YOUR RIGHT JORDAN! 01:31 Menche restarted it 01:31 Menche it was cgmr 01:32 Kacey lol 01:32 Menche attempted to index nil 01:32 Kacey come check out mah crib 01:32 * Menche sees errors related to "nil" a lot 01:32 jordan4ibanez I just realised, this is the captcha I got for webchat 01:32 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/7xWaB6o.jpg 01:32 Menche what does cgmr stand for anyway 01:33 Kacey craft guide mod reloaded 01:37 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/YQyTu0S.gif 01:37 Kacey Menche, please get on the server 01:54 Menche was there a mod that allowed admins to set player-specific skins? 01:54 Menche i see one that allows players to select from a list at will, but that's not what i want 02:00 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=A_cElFausf8&feature=endscreen me explaining to my grandpa 02:01 VanessaE Menche: player_textures mod. 02:01 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587 02:02 Menche that's what i was looking for, thanks :D 02:02 VanessaE np 02:04 telek Hey, can too many mods cause building to 'rubberband'? 02:05 Menche what do you mean? 02:05 NakedFury that only happens with lag 02:05 VanessaE "too many", no, but mods that cause but lag will 02:05 VanessaE -but 02:06 telek Meche: What they replied about. 02:06 telek Yeah I was getting some really terrible rubberbanding last night with 2 players connected. Any mods or mod interactions I should be looking for? 02:06 VanessaE so for example if you leave out things like moretrees ( :( ), snow biomes, landup, etc etc and just stick to simpler stuff like moreblocks, homedecor, carts, etc you'll be fine 02:07 VanessaE you could try disabling anti-cheat also 02:07 Exio what is "rubberband"? 02:08 Exio i can't get anything useful from the translator :P 02:08 NakedFury imagine being strapped to a huge rubber band 02:08 NakedFury and whenever you try to move you bounce back to starting position 02:08 Menche ah 02:09 mauvebic these 'failed to emerge player' messages, usually when my wife joins at the exact moment i start the server is the only way to succesfully connect :/ 02:09 Menche "player [name] moved too fast, resetting" 02:09 NakedFury like that old toy with a pingpong racket and a strapper ball that you bounce 02:09 Menche i *think* it's related to anticheat thinking you're going to fast? 02:09 Exio i think i got it 02:10 VanessaE that's precisely it, Menche 02:10 VanessaE Exio: well don't give it to anyone else :) 02:10 VanessaE this channel's sick enough as it is :D 02:11 Exio hehe 02:11 Menche argh, my server can't resolve domain names *again* 02:11 Menche i think i broke somethign 02:11 Menche *something 02:12 Menche had to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf 02:15 VanessaE Menche: change your settings in Network Manager if you're running that, point your DNS to something stable like 4.2.2.5 or 8.8.8.8 02:15 Menche i use opendns 02:15 Menche 208.67.220.220 02:16 Menche i'm using whatever networking daemon debian has by default 02:16 VanessaE ok 02:16 Menche i'm going to reinstall when debian 7.0 comes out anyway 02:16 VanessaE probably not nm then, if you're editing resolv.conf by hand 02:16 Menche isn't nm for gnome? 02:16 VanessaE well, xubuntu/xfce uses it too 02:17 Menche don't have an x11 server installed, just console 02:17 VanessaE what DE are you running anyway? 02:17 VanessaE oh 02:17 Menche ^ 02:17 Menche on my other computer's i use i3wm 02:17 VanessaE in that case... um... 02:17 Menche and arch's netcfg 02:18 Menche previously used xfce/lxde and wicd 02:18 Exio jordan4ibanez: link to that code? 02:18 jordan4ibanez let me see if I can find it 02:19 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jachoo/minetest-jachoo/commits/master 02:19 jordan4ibanez there were many good things in there 02:19 Menche minetest-jachoo? ooooold 02:19 VanessaE Menche: it really sounds like you need to consider another distro (and it really *really* surprises me that debian's being such a pain in the ass - it's supposed to be fairly easy to maintain) 02:20 Exio i don't have any problems with my debian6 setup 02:20 Menche debian is stable and easy to maintain, i was just screwing around 02:20 Exio and my gentoo laptop 02:20 jordan4ibanez very old, but there were good things 02:20 hmmmm http://i.imgur.com/lAw0aCg.jpg 02:20 Menche messed something up 02:20 Exio see, :P 02:20 Menche i *think* it was one of several probably stupid changes i made to /etc/hosts 02:21 Menche didn't know what i was doing 02:21 VanessaE Menche: well /etc/hosts is easy enough to fix 02:21 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jachoo/minetest-jachoo/commit/e982d5938570602f1959275c867cd894b2744fb8 this is it 02:21 Exio VanessaE: most of the problems are normally admin/user-induced :P 02:22 jordan4ibanez only the eye level section of the code should be included though 02:22 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: we saw already. wrong channel though... 02:22 VanessaE perhaps you should have linked to that in -dev 02:22 Menche commonly referred to as a "PEBKAC" error 02:23 Menche "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair" 02:23 VanessaE hehe 02:23 Menche i liked jachoo's teleports; players would keep their velocity when going through 02:23 Menche and they were really easy to set up 02:24 Menche i would link two teleports, one horizontal and the other vertical, then fall onto the vertical one from a great height 02:24 Menche and fly out the horizontal one for a long distance 02:27 Menche hi 02:27 VanessaE Menche: make a portal gun mod ;) 02:28 Menche is it possible for portals in lua to keep the player's velocity? 02:28 Exio save_player_speed;teleport;restore_player_speed? :P 02:29 Menche how would it get the player's speed? by the time the player hits the teleport and the abm or whatever sees him, he would have stopped already 02:30 jordan4ibanez youtube is taking 5 hours to upload a 2 gb file 02:31 jordan4ibanez ubuntu takes 2 minutes and it's 700mb 02:31 jordan4ibanez wat. the. mother. duck. 02:31 * Menche notices 2 nicknames from the same ip 02:31 Menche oh, the one left 02:31 NotReallyNick If it's a different file size, it will upload at a different speed. 02:32 NotReallyNick Also, I'm not really Nick. I'm 0gb.us. 02:33 jordan4ibanez Obviously 02:33 NotReallyNick So what's the issue? 02:34 jordan4ibanez The issue is imagenary 02:36 * Menche is trying to install mods on his server from another state over a cell data connection 02:36 jordan4ibanez Why? 02:37 Menche don't have wifi here 02:37 jordan4ibanez You're like bear grylls 02:37 Menche well, there are some networks that are only wep, but cracking isn't exactly legal 02:38 jordan4ibanez It is if you do it on accident 02:38 * Menche accidentally sniffs packets for an hour, accidentally cracks the key, and then accidentally connects 02:39 Menche oops, hate when that happens 02:39 Menche lol 02:39 jordan4ibanez lmao, "I swear officer I spilled water on the keyboard and it typed in the password itself! I was trying to connect to the ethernet too!" 02:40 jordan4ibanez AHA! I KNEW YOU WEREN'T NICK THE WHOLE TIME! 02:40 us_0gb I admitted in my nick that I wasn't really Nick! 02:41 us_0gb Hmm. NotReallyNick still identifies as 0gb.us. 02:46 Exio lol, "IsReallyMenche" 02:46 Menche you can't have 0 as the first character in your name? 02:46 Exio you can't 02:46 VanessaE Menche: no digits at all. 02:47 Exio nicks can't start with number at the start in IRC 02:47 Exio it is "reserved" for IDs 02:47 Menche us_0gb clearly has a 0 in his 02:47 Exio (you can get those nicks when netsplit or similar, like 0ABCDF, but you can't register them) 02:47 Menche it just can't be first? 02:47 Exio it can't be the first but it is allowed everywhere 02:48 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#3q3YHg3c 02:48 VanessaE oh this is SO wrong...... 02:49 us_0gb Yeah, IRC won't let me use 0gb.us, but it does allow us_0gb. 02:50 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/khSd9et.jpg if someone gets this, good on you XD 02:52 jordan4ibanez I think this is out of my hands now 02:53 Menche you're quitting and rejoining a lot 02:54 Menche lol 02:54 Menche yay, player_textures works 02:59 jordan4ibanez it took 3 minutes to upload 1% of the youtube video 02:59 jordan4ibanez 300 minutes, not exactly 5 hours, but feels like beyond that 03:02 * NotReallyNick tests 03:02 hmmmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYaRV6EwI3U 03:02 hmmmm some real good music 03:11 NotReallyNick Are you still here VanessaE? 03:12 jordan4ibanez Here, you guys can watch this before I make it public http://youtu.be/TXVl29wCMyQ 03:13 VanessaE yeah 03:17 VanessaE not for much longer though, what's up? 03:21 NotReallyNick Can you see that I'm 0gb.us still? 03:22 NotReallyNick Sorry, I got called away. 03:22 VanessaE * [NotReallyNick] (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net): Something other than Nick 03:22 VanessaE yup, for the user@ part, 03:22 VanessaE but your "real name" field is different not 03:22 VanessaE now* 03:22 NotReallyNick Hmm. I bet that's taking it from my computer user name then. I'm not sure I can fix it. 03:23 NotReallyNick Too bad. 03:23 NotReallyNick Thanks, VanessaE! 03:23 VanessaE no prob 03:23 VanessaE and, I'm off to bed. night 03:31 NotReallyNick Good night. 03:36 jordan4ibanez Goodnight 04:31 VanessaE well that didn't happen. 04:31 * VanessaE is back 04:32 ShadowNinja huh? 04:33 VanessaE couldn't sleep. 04:33 ShadowNinja ah 04:38 * NotReallyNick is still not Nick 04:38 VanessaE who are you then, Jane? Robert? Phillip? ;) 04:38 VanessaE (kidding) 04:39 NotReallyNick Unfortunately, it is illegal to get whois guard for .us domains. Hint, hint. 04:40 VanessaE heh 04:41 NotReallyNick It kind of sucks. Anyone who knows anything about DNS has access to my address. 04:47 hmmmm (ノ °益°)ノ 彡 04:47 * VanessaE turns the flipped-over air upright again. 04:47 VanessaE damn it hmmmm we only have a limited supply. :) 04:47 NotReallyNick Hmm? What? 04:48 VanessaE NotReallyNick: those symbols he posted are (mostly) japanese "ASCII art" depicting someone flipping something over (usually a table) 04:49 hmmmm that's not ASCII art, that's unicode art 04:49 NotReallyNick I see. What's with the air supply comment? And how do you set air upright? 04:49 NotReallyNick True. ASCII is far too limited for that. 04:49 VanessaE hmmmm: you know what I mean :-) 04:55 * VanessaE pokes DMackey 05:01 * NotReallyNick sings "see you in your dreams, yeah, baby, even if your dreams are nightmares" 05:01 VanessaE oh jeez 05:01 NotReallyNick It's a song. Papermoon. 06:21 ShadowNinja does anyone know how I can escape a space in the IRC protocol? I want to send a KICK message with spaces in the reason. 06:22 VanessaE you don't need to. 06:22 VanessaE /kick so_and_so some long and detailed reason here 06:23 VanessaE or you're going a level below that? 06:23 ShadowNinja I mean sending a raw KICK channel user message to the server 06:24 ShadowNinja your client auto-escapes the spaces, but how? 06:24 VanessaE the RFC says it's a backslash 06:24 VanessaE but even that is used sparing 06:24 VanessaE ly 06:24 ShadowNinja it doesn't seem to work 06:25 VanessaE tried %20? 06:25 kaeza ShadowNinja, are you escaping the python string or the actual string itself? 06:25 VanessaE looks like the protocol accepts those also 06:26 kaeza i.e. are you using "KICK ... :Long\ Reason" or "KICK ... :Long\\ Reason" 06:26 kaeza ? 06:26 ShadowNinja the first 06:26 ShadowNinja I see... 06:29 ShadowNinja even \\ doesn't work 06:31 VanessaE ShadowNinja: the RFC seems to indicate you shouldn't need to escape spaces. 06:31 VanessaE for example, 06:32 VanessaE QUIT :Gone to have lunch ; Preferred message format. 06:33 VanessaE the TOPIC command is similar (TOPIC #channel :some words here) 06:33 ShadowNinja sending "long stuff" shows up as "long" 06:33 VanessaE wait, maybe because you're leaving out the channel name? 06:34 VanessaE KICK #whatever username :some long comment 06:34 VanessaE try that? 06:34 VanessaE that's what the RFC says in fact. 06:34 VanessaE KICK #Finnish John :Speaking English 06:34 VanessaE ; Command to kick John from #Finnish 06:34 VanessaE using "Speaking English" as the 06:34 VanessaE reason (comment). 06:35 VanessaE eh, stupid spaces. 06:36 ShadowNinja phenny.write(['KICK', input.sender, input.nick, "Bad word"]) 06:36 ShadowNinja sender is the channel 06:36 VanessaE you missed the colon 06:36 VanessaE phenny.write(['KICK', input.sender, input.nick, ":Bad word"]) 06:36 ShadowNinja tried that too 06:37 VanessaE huh. You sure those params are being concat'd with real spaces and not tabs or some other weird char? 06:37 ShadowNinja nope, but I assume so, it works anyway, just ignores the second word 06:39 VanessaE huh. 06:40 webdesigner97 hi 06:40 VanessaE hi 06:40 webdesigner97 I'm working on cars for my StreetsMod ;) 06:41 VanessaE cool 06:41 webdesigner97 but it's not easy 06:41 webdesigner97 when I press W to move it forward, then ALL cars in the world start moving :/ 06:42 VanessaE err..that's a little wrong :) 06:43 webdesigner97 yep.... 06:43 webdesigner97 no idea how to fix it. for pilzadams boats it works fine, so it should be possible 06:44 VanessaE you'll figure it out, maybe just an entity ID issue or so 06:44 webdesigner97 yep 06:45 webdesigner97 maybe I should give every car a unique ID (whch can be used as licenses plate too :D) 06:45 VanessaE heh 06:45 webdesigner97 ;) 06:45 VanessaE as long as one of them is "A113" :) 06:45 webdesigner97 ? 06:45 * VanessaE likes Pixar movies 06:45 webdesigner97 :D 06:46 webdesigner97 but the cars aren't affected by gravity yet :( 06:46 webdesigner97 also no idea... 06:46 VanessaE and another of course must read "MESE" :) 06:46 webdesigner97 well, they should be random.... But the cars name can be like that 06:49 Sketch2 try percent zero zero 1 as the escape character. %001space 06:49 VanessaE 001?? 06:50 Sketch2 http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5948 06:52 webdesigner97 gtg. continue work now 06:53 kaeza VanessaE, seen the new feature in computers? :) 06:53 ShadowNinja Sketch2, VanessaE: fixed, this is the new line: phenny.write(['KICK', input.sender, input.nick], "Bad word") 06:54 Sketch2 ah, cool. 06:54 VanessaE kaeza: not yet, but I saw you talking about it. 06:54 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ahhh 06:55 kaeza also, something for dinner http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80939#p80939 06:55 VanessaE heh 06:56 kaeza aaaaaaand it's gone 06:58 ShadowNinja VanessaE: still op... 06:59 VanessaE (I always forget to stand down from that) 07:01 Doyousketch2 yeah, I'm upgrading my old pc and laptop to 2gig in a few days here too 07:03 Doyousketch2 wanna get'em hooked up so I can d\try out this distributed compiling thing 07:03 Doyousketch2 so far it eludes me. 07:03 VanessaE Distcc Is Your Friend ™ 07:03 VanessaE :) 07:04 Doyousketch2 have the daemon running, and open to the main PC, but the processor doesn't show anything on the system monitor 07:04 VanessaE been too long since I last used it actually 07:04 VanessaE not since my gentoo days actually 07:09 Doyousketch2 I've done something like it before when rendering 3D scenes, so I know it can be done 07:10 Doyousketch2 but I think the guys that made it shipped a newer ver than the readme. 'cuz it's called distcc-pump instead of pump 07:11 Doyousketch2 tho I'd imagine the commands are still similar, I feel as if I'm missing something, but I dunno what yet 07:24 VanessaE bbl 09:39 markveidemanis I decided to compile again 09:39 markveidemanis If an update comes out now i will shoot you 09:39 markveidemanis :D 09:41 webdesigner97 hi 09:42 kaeza hi wd 09:43 webdesigner97 does anybody have experience with entitys using a mesh? I'm having trouble with the textures... 09:59 Sketch2 not having a lotta luck with the distcc thing. I dunno where it's broken, but I been spinning wheels on it forever, so I gave up on that for now. thinking about installing a distributed OS instead 10:00 Sketch2 this KestrelHPC looks promising. it's a Debian Beowolf cluster - http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/index.html 10:09 Sketch2 this looks decent too, but I dunno if either will do Wheezy. I think they're both running on stable, not testing. 10:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:10 Sketch2 oh... by this, I meant PelicanHPC - http://pareto.uab.es/mcreel/PelicanHPC/ 10:11 Sketch2 how's it goin' 10:15 NotReallyNick markveidemanis: I think 0.4.6 come out today, so if you aren't wanting updates after you compile, you might as well wait a bit. 10:15 NotReallyNick Hello, PilzAdam. 10:15 PilzAdam yes, the plan is to release 0.4.6 today 10:15 PilzAdam hi 0gb.us 10:16 NotReallyNick Somebody was trying to tell me that was a lie. Though they also said they were going to shut down my server, which they of course can't do in a legal way. 10:19 markveidemanis Who can help me with 3 mods i want to run together... 10:19 markveidemanis My edited creative mod, inventory plus and creative-survival switcher 10:21 NotReallyNick Hmm. I'm not sure how to do that. 10:21 PilzAdam I guess the creative-survival switcher mod has to be rewritten to work with inventory plus 10:22 Deivan RealBadAngel, you submit a update to the git of the moreores? 10:23 NotReallyNick I guess you would need to make the button for the creative inventory not register like a regular page button. Then make it show up based on the creative/survival setting. 10:23 Deivan I think the copper is missing in the oredefs deffinition in the new version... 10:24 PilzAdam copper is in default now 10:24 NotReallyNick Copper has no ore definition, because it isn't an ore. It's a way of life. 10:24 Deivan Well, here I have a map full of holes... :-/ 10:25 NotReallyNick I'll look for some copper. 10:26 Deivan Searching all mods I don't found another deffinition of copper_lump 10:26 Deivan :-/ 10:27 NotReallyNick Are you looking in common/default/init.lua? 10:27 Deivan Moment... 10:28 NotReallyNick Okay, I just found and mined copper ore. 10:29 Deivan I don't found the common folder, location? 10:29 NotReallyNick common/mods/default/init.lua 10:29 Deivan Ok, this is my problem... 10:29 Deivan I need a new copy of the game. 10:29 NotReallyNick Oh, got it. 10:32 Deivan Thanks. AFK 10:32 NotReallyNick No problem. 10:35 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 10:35 markveidemanis last post 10:38 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you can link directly to posts by clicking on the date at the top of the post 10:38 markveidemanis Really? 10:38 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80962#p80962 10:38 markveidemanis I thought i had to get the line from the html code :D 10:39 NotReallyNick Okay, good night all. 10:48 webdesigner97 how can I make a texture like "character.png" for my own mesh? 10:52 Deivan Then now I have 3 git to obtaion the game, correct? 10:52 Deivan obtain... 10:52 PilzAdam you can use 2 more 10:52 PilzAdam survival and build 10:52 Deivan minetest, minetest-game and common. 10:52 Deivan Without the build I don't have the make? 10:53 Deivan Address, please. :D 10:53 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest 10:53 Deivan Already have it. 10:54 Deivan Wow... A list. 10:54 Deivan Thanks. 10:55 Deivan This one is the root: git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git 10:55 Deivan I put the git://github.com/minetest/common.git inside the games, correct? 10:56 PilzAdam yes 10:56 PilzAdam all the other games to 10:56 PilzAdam *too 10:56 Deivan Ok 10:56 Deivan :) 10:57 Deivan I have a script to update the game/mods and compile but now is all wrong. :-P 11:05 Deivan I need execute the "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1" any time or only in the first compilation? 11:05 PilzAdam everytime CMakeList.txt changes 11:06 PilzAdam (wich is only if a new file is added to src/) 11:06 PilzAdam s/only/mostly 11:06 Deivan Ok, thanks. 11:07 jojoa1997|Tablet starting on minitest aliases 11:07 Deivan I have here now the sequence: "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1" "make clean" "make -j2" 11:07 PilzAdam why do you make clean? 11:07 Deivan To clean the code... 11:08 PilzAdam just remove it, its not needed 11:08 Deivan When compilling my own programs sometimes strange things happen if I dont clean before. 11:08 Deivan And the clean don't is a big problem. 11:09 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80962#p80962 HELP 11:09 PilzAdam make -j2 will only compile changed files if you dont run make clean 11:09 PilzAdam wich is a lot faster 11:09 Deivan Now the entire process use 2~3 minutes, is a good time. 11:09 Deivan 42% here... 11:09 PilzAdam my average compile time is 10 seconds without make clean and 40 with make clean 11:10 Deivan 10 seconds? :-o 11:10 Deivan 49%... 11:11 Deivan Ops. 66% 11:11 Deivan Many warnings... 11:11 PilzAdam just remove this "make clean"; you wont have troubles 11:11 Deivan Is my personal option... 11:12 Deivan A bad obj file make all wrong without cause. 11:13 Deivan Done... Testing... 11:13 Deivan AFK 11:15 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam grr 11:17 markveidemanis Who can help me with an inventory? 11:20 markveidemanis Anyone? 11:20 PilzAdam markveidemanis, please be more patient 11:21 markveidemanis haha lol nailed it 1 line 11:27 Deivan Ok, the minimal is working, the minetest make some trouble here. 11:27 Deivan Errors in the common/mods/default/mapgen.lua:34: attempt to call field 'register_ore' (a nil value) 11:27 Deivan I miss some? 11:28 Deivan I lost some... 11:28 PilzAdam you dont have the latest version of the engine 11:28 Deivan Is the one from the git. 11:28 Deivan Have another one? 11:29 PilzAdam well, if register_ore() is not defined then you dont have the latest version 11:29 Deivan I removed the folder, used the git clone and have it. 11:29 Deivan From this one 11:29 Deivan git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git 11:30 PilzAdam strange 11:30 PilzAdam bbl 11:30 Deivan :-/ 11:30 Deivan I try again in some hours. 11:30 Deivan Cya. 11:30 Deivan AFK 11:31 Deivan I have the data from the terminal: 11:31 Deivan Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.3 11:31 Deivan Linux 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.32-1 i686 11:31 Deivan Using renderer: OpenGL 4.2.11931 11:31 Deivan AMD Radeon HD 6450: ATI Technologies Inc. 11:31 Deivan OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. 11:31 Deivan GLSL version: 4.2 11:31 Deivan Many lines... sorry. 11:40 Deivan More one thing. In the old version, before I remove all and download from the git again this register_ore is working, I don't know the cause... :-/ 11:41 Deivan Anyway the RL is calling. Cya. AFK 11:56 IceCraft I wish you a good morning 12:12 * Sketch2 is getting tired of 'puters. 12:13 Sketch2 trying to save time by linking 'em, but it's just wasting time trying to link 'em. 12:14 Sketch2 this is the one I'm trying at the moment. but I'm gonna do the sleep thing and try again later on tonight. https://github.com/KestrelCluster/KestrelCluster 12:18 MarkTest hello 12:18 bas080 Or is it already possible to configure formspec colors? 12:18 MarkTest The bold font doesnt work 12:18 bas080 Hey MarkTest 12:18 markveidemanis Hi 12:21 markveidemanis Channel modes on #minetest are: +Ccnt 12:21 markveidemanis c filters colour 12:23 markveidemanis jordan4ibanez 12:24 markveidemanis Jeija, Jordan4ibanez 12:25 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80962#p80962 12:25 jordan4ibanez that's not my mod why are you asking me to help? xD 12:26 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, nice youtube series! 12:26 jordan4ibanez Thank you! 12:28 jordan4ibanez hey this would make a great mod http://youtu.be/OczROmw6wFI 12:30 jordan4ibanez stack limit of stackpack to -1 or whatever the limit of itemstacks in minetest is 12:46 jordan4ibanez does this commit https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9ff8012655f13269f33d406f024374c67b650a9a make it so you can use on_rightclick for an item? 12:47 PilzAdam no 12:47 PilzAdam on_place() is the "on_rightclick" for items 12:47 PilzAdam but for some odd reason its not called if pointed_thing.type = "none" 12:48 jordan4ibanez oh okay, it appears it was not called because the return returned nil and just basically ran "return" 12:50 PilzAdam the commit you linked just fixes a crash when on_rightclick() of nodes returns nil 12:51 rarkenin How much network overhead is there with the current packet system? 12:51 rarkenin In Wireshark, I checked on a few, it seems... excessive. 12:55 jordan4ibanez can on_use be moved to right click so we can dig with tools? 12:56 PilzAdam no, we have on_place() for rightclick 12:56 jordan4ibanez on_place doesn't work if you're not pointed at a node 12:57 PilzAdam yes, that needs to be fixed 13:00 markveidemanis Kacey, are you any good with inventory mods? 13:03 Kacey nope 13:03 Kacey im not very good at mods 13:04 Kacey jordan4ibanez, lol i amwatching your new series, needs someone to be your "sidekick" 13:09 jordan4ibanez lol 13:12 Kacey seriously, you said you were lonely 13:12 Kacey and nobody is lonely with me on their game 13:13 Infinity_69 hi 13:14 Infinity_69 i got kicked out of #python :/ 13:14 Infinity_69 and i need help... 13:15 Infinity_69 thexyz, PilzAdam, VanessaE, i need help with Error fixing... 13:16 Infinity_69 count one of you help me? 13:16 Infinity_69 could* 13:16 markveidemanis I cant help but i can go to #python and say you are moaning :D 13:17 Kacey bbl 13:18 markveidemanis Go to #python-ops then 13:19 jordan4ibanez I said it was lonely because I haven't included any mobs yet :P 13:19 markveidemanis Infinity_69: go to #python-ops 13:19 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, try simple mobs if you want a challenge 13:19 jordan4ibanez I am making something for company :P 13:20 Infinity_69 what extension does a Compiled Python File have? 13:20 Infinity_69 :) 13:20 Infinity_69 .pyc? 13:37 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/kn1HcJD.png why did I try to play god 13:37 jordan4ibanez WHY 13:37 jordan4ibanez WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 13:37 PilzAdam the world would be funny if you were god :-) 13:38 jordan4ibanez I think it would be chaotic lol 13:39 Kray close enough 13:50 jordan4ibanez WAIT A SECOND, I know what new collision detection for entities is useful for! 13:57 jordan4ibanez we can have it so itemstacks use physical detection instead of using the lua collision detection 14:00 jordan4ibanez we can have it so carts pushes players out of the way 14:01 PilzAdam objects dont collide with players, only with Lua entities 14:01 VanessaE morning all 14:02 jordan4ibanez Pilzadam they collide with players 14:02 jordan4ibanez I'm walking on an entity right now 14:02 PilzAdam the player collides with entities, but not the other way round 14:02 jordan4ibanez Oh okay 14:08 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://i.imgur.com/4MjwKcA.jpg 14:08 * CobaltDev has just announced that Cobalt 0.1.0 is out, to download it go to http://bit.ly/13RftHk 14:08 CobaltDev SYNC = 100% 14:08 jordan4ibanez xD 14:08 * CobaltDev high-5's sfan5 14:09 CobaltDev Hello :D 14:09 CobaltDev btw, im Ragnar/RagnarLaud/EqualsRagnar/Infinity_69 14:09 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://i.imgur.com/Xs9lC5U.jpg 14:09 CobaltDev http://pythonvolt.bugs3.com/project/cobalt/releases/windows/Cobalt%20Installer.pyc 14:10 CobaltDev this works :D 14:11 * CobaltDev has announced a new Cobalt to be released in 10 minutes: Cobalt 0.1.5 14:11 CobaltDev Bugs fixed: 1 14:11 CobaltDev Name 14:11 jordan4ibanez sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/wVPSU9b.png 14:11 jordan4ibanez wtf is cobalt? 14:11 CobaltDev Sun Dogg1 14:11 sfan5 wtf? 14:12 CobaltDev its a program made in Python 14:12 CobaltDev my first actual program 14:12 CobaltDev that works... 14:12 CobaltDev kinda... 14:12 CobaltDev by me :D 14:12 CobaltDev has bugs... 14:12 jordan4ibanez What does it do? Why would you expect people to download it if you're not saying what it is 14:13 jordan4ibanez sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/VwPg1aL.png 14:13 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: wtf is dat 14:13 jordan4ibanez It's all snoop dog 14:14 jordan4ibanez I bet you can't make a snoop dog texture pack sfan5 14:14 sfan5 lets see 14:14 jordan4ibanez it has to be 1024x1024 each texture 14:15 CobaltDev Found another bug in "Cobalt Installer.pyc": Writes wrong name 14:15 * sfan5 thinks about /kick CobaltDev announce that in #whatever_you_want but not in #minetest 14:16 PilzAdam sfan5, +1 for kick 14:16 jordan4ibanez Wait, cobalt, the game by mojang? XD 14:16 CobaltDev what no?! 14:18 CobaltDev well, lets just say that its just like the Unity web player and the Ubuntu Unity Desktop 14:18 CobaltDev they sound familiar, but arent 14:20 PilzAdam CobaltDev, can you finish the translation: http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/et/ ? 14:21 CobaltDev soon... 14:21 CobaltDev :D 14:22 PilzAdam 0.4.6 will be released in a few hours 14:22 PilzAdam it would be better if you translate it before that 14:22 CobaltDev o.o 14:22 CobaltDev i cant do it in so little time 14:22 VanessaE translations would count as features I think. 14:22 CobaltDev VanessaE, im a programmer :D 14:23 VanessaE CobaltDev: so I assumed. 14:23 PilzAdam CobaltDev, there are only 37 strings to translate 14:23 CobaltDev i know... 14:23 PilzAdam that takes 2 minutes 14:23 VanessaE and feature freeze is still in place. 14:23 CobaltDev rlly? 14:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, no, translations will be merged before 0.4.6 14:24 Deivan Already have a portuguese translation? 14:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: um, you better talk that over with the other devs..... 14:24 PilzAdam Deivan, not 100% done: http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/pt/ 14:24 Deivan I don't have problem in help with this one. :D 14:25 PilzAdam Deivan, that would be awesome! 14:26 Deivan Well, this is Portugal portuguese, little different from here (Brazil) have another one? 14:26 CobaltDev VanessaE or PilzAdam how do i DEcompile a pyc file? 14:26 CobaltDev i screw the whole installer up... 14:26 PilzAdam CobaltDev, thats offtopic, please stop it 14:26 VanessaE CobaltDev: no clue, I don' work with python enough to understand it. 14:27 CobaltDev o.o 14:27 CobaltDev Please 14:27 PilzAdam VanessaE, translations arent a feature 14:27 CobaltDev PilzAdam, im begging you 14:27 CobaltDev o.o 14:27 CobaltDev :'o 14:28 Deivan Then... Have another translation file to Brazil? Have very small differences like "ficheiro" = "arquivo". 14:29 PilzAdam Deivan, new languages can be added after 0.4.6 14:29 Deivan Roger, roger... 14:31 Deivan The game still don't working here... I seek the entire code (C and CPP files) and don't found any referente to register_ore... :-/ 14:31 CobaltDev whats a kana? 14:31 CobaltDev o.o 14:31 PilzAdam AFAIK some exotic key 14:32 markveidemanis ERROR[main]: WARNING: updateListener: invalid value 14:32 CobaltDev Lunja? 14:32 PilzAdam markveidemanis, this bug is known 14:33 markveidemanis I was building a F**ing house... 14:33 markveidemanis Then i was teleported out of the world 14:33 markveidemanis What did it do? 14:34 PilzAdam CobaltDev, if you dont know the string that copy it and mark it as "fuzzy" 14:34 CobaltDev Attn = WHAT DA FUrry 14:34 Deivan I completed the portuguese translation... 14:34 CobaltDev CrSel = Alt Gr? 14:35 CobaltDev OEF? 14:36 PilzAdam Deivan, can you go through the checks/warnings and remove or fix them= 14:36 PilzAdam *? 14:36 Deivan The page say "100%" 14:36 Deivan I will check. 14:37 PilzAdam Deivan, http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/pl/translate/?type=allchecks <- "Not translated" 14:37 PilzAdam either translate it or remove the warning 14:37 CobaltDev whats a Gamespec.? 14:37 kaeza core/es/: "There are 180 strings, out of which 100.0% is translated and 0.0% is fuzzy." 14:37 kaeza \o/ 14:37 Deivan ;) 14:37 CobaltDev nice +1 14:38 CobaltDev whats a handy cap? 14:38 PilzAdam CobaltDev, can you link the string? 14:38 CobaltDev ugh. wut? 14:38 Deivan Print stacks... Hum... 14:38 CobaltDev Show stacks... 14:38 PilzAdam whats a Gamespec.? <- can you link the string? 14:38 CobaltDev it shows the quantity of a stack... 14:38 CobaltDev where is it 14:39 CobaltDev http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/et/translate/?type=all&pos=177 14:39 Deivan Done 14:39 CobaltDev whats a gamespec? 14:39 PilzAdam CobaltDev, a gamespec is the ID of the game 14:39 Deivan This is polaco? 14:39 CobaltDev xD 14:40 CobaltDev polaco = Uranus 14:40 PilzAdam Deivan, nice 14:40 Deivan :-o 14:40 kaeza Deivan, estonian IIRC 14:40 CobaltDev iirc? 14:40 Deivan My translation is wrong... 14:40 Deivan -.- 14:40 CobaltDev wait, did you actually put in Uranus? 14:40 CobaltDev xD 14:41 kaeza U ran [from] us? 14:41 CobaltDev :'D 14:41 Deivan How I undo a translation? 14:41 PilzAdam Deivan, just override it 14:41 CobaltDev Uranus = Your Anus 14:41 CobaltDev xd 14:42 CobaltDev done! 14:42 CobaltDev only 3.9% is fuzzy. 14:42 PilzAdam kaeza, you know spanish, right? 14:42 kaeza yep 14:42 * CobaltDev translated Minetest into Estonian 14:42 CobaltDev Like a Boss! 14:42 PilzAdam there are suggestions for spanish, can you check them? 14:42 kaeza sure 14:42 CobaltDev now i need help! 14:42 Deivan I don't know the translation... I "googled it", translated "print stack" to "stosy Drukuj" 14:43 CobaltDev how do i DEcompile a pyc program? 14:43 CobaltDev Deivan, Print Stacks = Shows the nr of a stack 14:43 thexyz i hopen we won't end with obscene language here and there 14:43 CobaltDev what? 14:43 CobaltDev who 14:44 CobaltDev oh, yeah, sure =) 14:44 CobaltDev *Cought* Uranus! 14:44 Deivan oO 14:44 Deivan The git already have a new version of the game? 14:44 Deivan I don't found nothing here. :-/ 14:45 Deivan PilzAdam, I completed the "polaco" translation to... :-o (But I don't know if is correct) 14:45 kaeza Deivan, do you understand spanish? 14:46 Deivan Yes, but don't is my main language. 14:46 kaeza "Print Stacks" would be something like "Volcar Pila" or "Imprimir Pila" 14:46 Deivan I think is "Imprimir Pilha" 14:46 Deivan Momment. 14:47 Deivan Pila, is correct. 14:47 Deivan "Imprimir Pila" 14:47 kaeza I get this using google http://translate.google.com/#en/pt/print%20stacks 14:47 PilzAdam CobaltDev, maybe its better to not mark the untranslated strings as "fuzzy" 14:48 Deivan Try translate "imprimir pila" to english 14:48 kaeza http://translate.google.com/#es/en/imprimir%20pila 14:48 CobaltDev ok :/ 14:48 CobaltDev kaeza, how do i decompile a pyc (Compiled Python File)? 14:49 CobaltDev pyccku xD 14:49 kaeza Deivan, maybe "Pilas" (as plural) 14:49 Deivan More than one, yes, pilas 14:49 kaeza CobaltDev, GIYF 14:49 CobaltDev no it isnt! 14:49 CobaltDev it isnt helping me :/ 14:49 CobaltDev not at all 14:50 PilzAdam CobaltDev, could you remove the "fuzzy" flag from the untranslated strings, please? 14:50 kaeza Deivan, lol: http://translate.google.com/#pt/en/imprimir%20pila 14:50 CobaltDev i dont have time atm... 14:50 Deivan You are evil... 14:50 CobaltDev :( 14:50 Deivan :-P 14:51 CobaltDev xD 14:52 kaeza lol "Pilha" translates to "Stack", but "Pilhas" translates to "Batteries" XD 14:52 Deivan Yes. 14:52 Deivan :d 14:53 Deivan Pilha is stack and is batterie 14:54 Deivan And is when you make pressure in someone to do some. 14:54 kaeza same as in spanish: "pila" == "batería" 14:54 Deivan A slang... 14:55 Deivan Maybe, portuguese have the roots in the same place from the spanish. 14:55 kaeza PilzAdam, done 14:55 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE someone posted a good question 14:55 PilzAdam kaeza, awesome 14:56 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdama i am a quarter way done with aliases 14:56 kaeza PilzAdam, actually, lemme check if anything else needs fixing, but for now, all suggestinos were handled accordingly 14:56 jojoa1997|Tablet someone needs to make a light mesecons for minitest 14:57 Deivan If you start a portuguese translation, a second one, please, copy the portuguese from portugal and I correct only the small differences. :) 15:01 Deivan How many strings? 180? 15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet what we need 15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet in minetest 15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet java 0.o 15:02 Deivan I need a debug for lua. 15:03 Deivan Sometimes a lua make a wrong thing and the game need 2 minutes to display the error message, some times I need kill it to restart. :-/ 15:03 kaeza oh dear... many fuzzy strings not marked as fuzzy -.- 15:04 Deivan Language? 15:04 jojoa1997|Tablet /join #minetest-dev 15:04 jojoa1997|Tablet oops 15:04 kaeza Deivan, español 15:04 jojoa1997|Tablet i love how minetest has ingame modloader and texture patcher 15:05 Deivan Send links and I try help you. 15:06 jojoa1997|Tablet is it? 15:06 jojoa1997|Tablet default:sand_stone 15:06 kaeza I'm reading the .po file and then searching for the strings badly translated 15:07 kaeza easier than using weblate 15:07 Deivan I found the file now in the site, I have a program here to help with this type of work. "Lokalize" 15:08 Deivan I have a version here to the GNU Debian. 15:08 Deivan Is a very small group of strings, easy to translate. :D 15:10 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest.register_alias(old, new)? 15:10 kaeza hrm... I cannot find a proper term for "mip-mapping" 15:10 PilzAdam yes 15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet pok 15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 15:11 kaeza ditto for "shaders" 15:11 PilzAdam kaeza, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mipmap 15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest.register_alias("default:stone_with_mese", "minitest:stone_with_gold")? 15:12 PilzAdam https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader 15:12 Deivan Mese = gold now? oO 15:12 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes 15:12 kaeza PilzAdam, thanks! "mapas MIP" sounds a bit silly though... 15:12 kaeza ah! but "MIP" is an acronym 15:12 jojoa1997|Tablet yes for minitest 15:13 CobaltDev for some reason the python IDLE crashes :/ 15:13 CobaltDev guess ill re-install it 15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet i am getting rid of mese 15:13 kaeza CobaltDev, use a real IDE 15:13 CobaltDev why? 15:13 CobaltDev i love IDLE 15:13 CobaltDev :D 15:13 kaeza not some half-assed Tkinter app 15:14 CobaltDev ??? 15:14 * CobaltDev repairing IDLE 15:15 * CobaltDev waiting for IDLE 15:15 * CobaltDev didnt fix IDLE, it broke 99.9% 15:15 * CobaltDev uninstalling Python 3.3 15:17 kaeza "Capital" == "Caps Lock"? 15:17 Deivan Git from the minetest is strange now... 15:17 Deivan :-o 15:18 * CobaltDev is installing Python 3.3 15:18 jojoa1997|Tablet also gravel will drop flint 15:18 Deivan Flint? 15:18 kaeza I'll leave it as that now 15:18 Deivan The stone to make fire? 15:20 Deivan Kaeza, capital is capital. :D 15:20 jojoa1997|Tablet yep 15:20 Deivan Like a big ship is the capital ship. :D 15:20 kaeza "Montevideo" :D 15:21 Deivan :-P 15:21 Deivan Brasilia. :D 15:24 kaeza ok, I hope it's 100% ok now 15:25 kaeza more like 99.999999999% but whatever 15:29 Deivan Hum... 180 strings... One error is like 0.5%. 15:41 CobaltDev hey! 15:41 CobaltDev im back! 15:41 CobaltDev i made another program :D 15:41 CobaltDev its called the EaZ Compiler 15:42 CobaltDev you put in the dir, the name of the file and *POOF* compiled1 15:49 Deivan RL is calling... AFK 16:00 jordan4ibanez The reason that digging grass in minecraft sounds like cardboard, is because it is cardboard, but c418 badly edited it 16:10 rubenwardy hi all 16:10 kaeza hai ruben 16:10 kaeza hai jordan 16:12 CobaltDev hi kaeza 16:12 CobaltDev :D 16:12 CobaltDev hi rubenwardy 16:13 CobaltDev its me, Ragnar/Infinity_69 16:13 CobaltDev im a developer 16:13 CobaltDev made 3 programs(Main, Installer, Uninstaller) and a plugin :D 16:14 CobaltDev working on a updater 16:19 * Calinou just got kicked from a TF2 server 16:19 Calinou hmm nevermind, the admin just kicked everybody 16:27 jordan4ibanez We need a multiban 16:28 jordan4ibanez Minetest is going to start getting more popular, and we need a way to handle players to keep them out of servers 16:28 jordan4ibanez (if they're horrible) 16:28 Calinou global ban lists are a no-no 16:29 Calinou please don't imitate red eclipse or minceraft in such things 16:29 Calinou on top of that, who should handle them if we make one? 16:29 Exio are there "global banlists" in RE? 16:29 jordan4ibanez minecraft doesn't do this, and that's the main problem 16:30 Calinou you can be gbanned on RE, Exio 16:30 jordan4ibanez We could have a strike list or a leaderboard of banned players and they're ips, and the reason they are banned, or even to go as far into the reason they are banned from each server they got banned from 16:30 Calinou it's your problem if you don't know how to know whether someone is a griefer or not when giving them interact 16:30 Exio Calinou: i don't get how they would work properly as you can change the nick 16:30 Calinou or not making a properly made protection system 16:30 Calinou Exio: IP 16:31 jordan4ibanez Then this: Minetest should have a builtin protection mod for claiming land 16:31 Exio Calinou: .. 99.99% of the IPs are dynamic :P 16:31 Calinou lol no 16:31 Calinou more like 30% 16:31 Calinou most ISPs in france give static IPs, especially in the optic fiber world 16:31 Calinou mine gives dynamic ones for ADSL only :P 16:31 jordan4ibanez A radius from the static spawnpoint, which only people with certain privelages can modify the terrain/hurt other players 16:32 Exio ahm 16:32 Exio as here in argentina the only IPs what are static are from servers and are expensive/similar :P 16:33 kaeza I agree we need a list with "known griefers" that server admins can consult. Of course, it's up to the admin to grant/revoke interact, but at least they are warned. 16:34 Exio you can change the nick in, well, what is your WPM? 16:34 kaeza Exio, 99% of neb's that come from MC do not change nicks at all 16:34 kaeza newb's* 16:36 kaeza speaking of which, 198.144.116.59 == you know who? 16:36 VanessaE yep. 16:37 VanessaE 198.144.116.* is already banned 16:37 kaeza n user named djduty connected from that IP 16:37 kaeza an* 16:38 VanessaE in fact that specific IP is also in the list. 16:40 Calinou griefing is part of the game, even if it is not allowed 16:40 Calinou there are no rules in MT 16:40 VanessaE no but there are rules on individual servers. 16:41 CobaltDev bye! 16:41 CobaltDev g2g 16:41 CobaltDev cya tmrrow 16:41 CobaltDev if CobaltDevComesBack == tomorrow: 16:41 Calinou VanessaE: this doesn't exclude griefing from the game 16:41 CobaltDev print('yay') 16:41 CobaltDev else: 16:41 jordan4ibanez 'zactly 16:41 Calinou CobaltDev: go learn lua 16:41 VanessaE print('good.') 16:41 CobaltDev print("I'll be back") 16:41 VanessaE fi 16:41 VanessaE ;-) 16:41 Calinou I decompiled your game, looks like shit. 16:42 CobaltDev its Python! 16:42 Calinou ~mojang 16:42 Calinou cobalt is lua 16:42 CobaltDev game? 16:42 CobaltDev no it isnt! 16:42 Calinou the game made by mojang 16:42 VanessaE s/fi/end/ 16:42 Calinou it is 16:42 CobaltDev its python 16:42 CobaltDev no! 16:42 Calinou source 16:42 kaeza VanessaE, fi? that's shell woman! :P 16:42 CobaltDev its like Unity web player and Unity Desktop 16:42 CobaltDev sound the same, are different 16:42 VanessaE kaeza: :P 16:42 CobaltDev well anyways bye 16:42 CobaltDev Calinou, .pyc = Compiled Python File 16:42 CobaltDev :P 16:43 Calinou yes but no 16:43 kaeza .pyo FTW! 16:43 jordan4ibanez I'm not talking about block or player griefing, I'm talking about players exploting glitches in the game to shut down the server, stuff like that 16:44 Calinou not our fault if your mods crash 16:44 kaeza Calinou, not mods 16:45 VanessaE Calinou: I think he means bugs in the engine 16:45 Calinou if you find one, tell the devs 16:45 VanessaE like that one that crashes servers if an entity falls into the void below -31000 16:45 kaeza the trampoline bug (which I think was fixed) is one such exploit 16:45 Calinou and use a restart script 16:45 Calinou VanessaE: that's why we need bedrock :P 16:46 VanessaE Calinou: I keep pushing for a "hard iron" layer at the bottom. 2m thick, indestructible, textured like a dark, rusty material. 16:46 kaeza Calinou, and make it impossible to go beyond bedrock (in general beyond the map limits) with noclip 16:46 jordan4ibanez A player gains access to the game, somehow exploits the code, installs a malicious mod, gains access to the server, ddoses it by frying it with a massive overclock, we need some kind of malicious player list 16:46 VanessaE kaeza: +1 16:46 Calinou VanessaE: and deals 20dmg/sec if you try to go in :P 16:46 VanessaE this shit coulda been done months ago. why wasn't it? 16:46 * rubenwardy is listening to the sound track of portal 2 16:47 Calinou jordan4ibanez: most servers cannot be overclocked 16:47 kaeza also, ent:setpos() should ignore calls with high values 16:47 Calinou you can't change a xeon's CPU freq ratio, and good luck overclocking with BCLK 16:47 kaeza rubenwardy, U like game OSTs? 16:48 kaeza rubenwardy, listen to "Dogs of War" from "MoH: European Assault" 16:48 jordan4ibanez What if it's a home server? We have to say we did something to try to resist malicious players as much as possible, because when people start joining and finding a lot of bugs/hacks in the server/client we need to say there's some kind of list for people to watch out for other wise people will get mad 16:48 Calinou anyway, IMO I'd put that "hard iron" block at -30000, and in other directions, the same kind of block but invisible 16:48 Calinou to prevent some side effects when you're near the border :P 16:48 VanessaE Calinou: why -30000? 16:49 VanessaE gonna put a nether world below that? 16:49 Calinou some margin to prevent side effects 16:49 VanessaE hrm 16:49 jordan4ibanez THAT's A GREAT IDEA! 16:49 jordan4ibanez The nether could be at the point where the mapgen is fucked up, so it looks like your suffering the effects of the nether 16:52 Calinou jordan4ibanez: also, CPUs throttle and stop if they reach too high temperatures :P 16:52 jordan4ibanez What if the server is running a p4 without thermal protection dummy? 16:53 NotReallyNick Calinou: It you're going to block off the bottom, you should block off the other five edges too, as they are equally buggy. 16:53 VanessaE even my last machine (Athlon 64 X2) wouldn't fare well in an overheat situation - it would just shut off entirely. 16:53 kaeza VanessaE, Nientiendo Wee: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3503289779.jpg 16:53 VanessaE kaeza: nice 16:53 VanessaE (though mine is black and not mounted vertically) 16:55 VanessaE haven't deployed the latest updates to the server yet, I'm waiting for RealBadAngel to finish his update for technic 16:55 kaeza I'm awaiting that too 16:55 * kaeza is starting a new hardcore survival server 16:56 Calinou inb4 fast 16:56 Calinou hardcore with fast priv is a joke 16:56 Calinou and without bones too 16:56 kaeza Calinou, hunger, thirst, drowning, bones, simple mobs 16:57 Calinou inb4 drowning's uber-annoying sounds 16:57 Calinou (can people learn how "gain" works?) 16:57 kaeza too loud? I can reduce that 16:58 Calinou we have zero normalization, that's annoying 16:58 kaeza and no, there won't be any fast priv 16:58 kaeza survive or gtfo 17:07 kaeza small question: if the server knows I'm at, say, (0,0,0), but the client sends "I dug at (1000,1000,1000)", how does the server handle it? 17:07 kaeza does it ignore the packet? 17:08 VanessaE I think so, problem is it doesn't tell the client to move back to 0,0,0 17:08 VanessaE (or the client doesn't move) 17:08 VanessaE I've seen this happen countless times, where the client's actions are being ignored because the server thinks the player is somewhere else 17:08 kaeza I mean about hacked clients. the client may ignore move commands from the server 17:09 VanessaE yes but even a hacked client has to be able to receive the map data. 17:09 VanessaE can't the server just force-update the apparent map data? 17:09 kaeza hmm... 17:09 NotReallyNick The apparent map data comes with coordinates though. 17:10 NotReallyNick SO the hacked client isn't fooled. 17:10 NotReallyNick *So 17:10 VanessaE so it can fake the coordinates too. 17:10 VanessaE not that it matters, 17:10 NotReallyNick I would think so. 17:10 VanessaE if the server says "no", that's the end of it. 17:10 kaeza that seems like a security issue or whatever you call it 17:11 VanessaE the server already knows that a player has like a 5-node dig/place radius. if the action happens outside that range, disallow it entirely. 17:11 kaeza but does it do that currently? or is planned to fix that? 17:12 VanessaE dunno 17:12 VanessaE maybe it does it by 'accident'. 17:13 kaeza anyway nvm... just asking some silly questions 17:13 kaeza It's not like I'm going to look at the server code and fix that thing (if it's not already) 17:17 jordan4ibanez I noticed that now I can sometimes walk through blocks 17:21 rarkenin What types of shaders are supported in Minetest? GLSL? Or DirectX? 17:21 VanessaE GLSL 17:21 rarkenin If someone made the framework for setting the shaders that affect nodes, I could make a few shaders for various material types. 17:22 jordan4ibanez How about nodeboxes, shadows for nodeboxes would be awesome saucem 17:22 rarkenin Yeah, that would be cool. 17:23 VanessaE even lighting for nodeboxes (and all flat objects) would be, too 17:23 rarkenin But I doubt Minetest will go as far as anything beyond primitive raytracing. 17:23 rarkenin Or even only one hop off the surface in question. 17:23 jordan4ibanez Are you stupid? XD 17:24 jordan4ibanez Someone out there is able to do that, they just haven't tried or haven't found minetest yet 17:24 rarkenin One direct hop is enough. 17:24 jordan4ibanez this* 17:24 rarkenin I suck at C/C++, but I'm pretty good with shader languages. 17:26 jordan4ibanez If we get shadow shaders with pilzadam's improved first person then minetest will officially be better than minecraft 17:30 rarkenin I'd love to see shaders that affect nodes, quite a bit. Our steel blocks are too flatly shaded. 17:30 VanessaE steel blocks can be better done with textures. 17:30 VanessaE shaders are not needed. 17:31 Calinou rarkenin: let's have screenspace shaders first 17:31 Calinou DoF/blur/HDR and so :P 17:31 VanessaE ugh.. 17:31 Calinou jordan4ibanez: these are very slow 17:31 Calinou inocudom is going to join this channel and say "thou shalt not ignore GT610 owners" 17:31 rarkenin Yeah. Shadow implies at least one hop of raytrace. 17:31 Calinou just like every other FOSS gamer 17:32 Calinou rarkenin: look at how tesseract does shadows, it's not raytracing iirc 17:32 Calinou deferred shading and stuff 17:32 rarkenin I'm a FOSS gamer, I use 4 660ti's in SLI. 17:32 jordan4ibanez Well if I can run the shaders with a bunch of mods in minecraft at above 40fps then shaders in minetest should be no issue 17:32 rarkenin Calinou: No, not Z-buffer shadows! :P 17:32 Calinou what's your CPU/mobo, rarkenin? 17:32 Calinou X79 is overly expensive :D 17:32 rarkenin Intel i5, 3rd gen. 17:32 rarkenin Motherboard, I don't recall. 17:33 Deivan I have a small problem with one of my mods... When I move the player to a unloaded area the player start falling before all blocks will be loaded, how I avoit this problem? 17:33 Calinou since when you can do 4-way SLI on B75/H77/Z77? 17:33 VanessaE Deivan: activate free move ("fly") and hold the player in position until the land under is generated. 17:33 VanessaE then release fly. 17:33 Deivan Is a good plan to me. 17:33 Deivan :D 17:33 rarkenin I don't do 4-way SLI. 17:34 Deivan Thanks. 17:34 Deivan AFK 17:34 rarkenin I have two of them SLId to each other, the other two are acting independently under pedantic control of Blender. 17:34 Calinou ah 17:34 rarkenin What GLSL version does Minetest use? 17:34 Calinou latest possible? 17:34 Calinou like always 17:35 rarkenin OK. 17:38 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/7245167360 17:38 sfan5 Calinou: no 17:38 sfan5 it uses glsl 1.1 17:38 sfan5 (the oldest possible version) 17:38 sfan5 and its hardcoded on that 17:39 sfan5 *thats hardcoded 17:39 ShadowNinja Jeija: LCDs reset if you send something on a different channel 17:39 ShadowNinja And the attachment bug is NOT fixed 17:41 rarkenin glsl1.1 is just a pain, since the spec changed so much after it... 17:43 Calinou can someone fix 3D entities being black, darker or brighter sometimes? 17:43 Calinou (lighting is shared between all entities in view) 17:43 Calinou :| 17:44 VanessaE Calinou: I wish someone would, it's fucking irritating 17:44 sfan5 <Calinou> (lighting is shared between all entities in view) <- who made entity lightning? 17:44 Jeija ShadowNinja: LCD bug fixed, what attachement bug? 17:44 PilzAdam Calinou, c55 once said something to Taoki how to fix it 17:44 PilzAdam something like copying the mesh or so IIRC 17:45 Taoki PilzAdam: The lighting on player models? 17:45 PilzAdam yes 17:45 Taoki PilzAdam: Yes. I tried fixing it at the time, but we soon found it cannot be fixed 17:45 Taoki Only fix is switching to hardware lighting and Irrlicht light entities. Which I really hope will happen someday :) 17:46 Taoki PilzAdam: It's because the (rather hacky) lighting system in MineTest changes the color of entities to make them brighter or darker. But models are only loaded once, and color is global to that mesh info 17:47 Taoki It's how Irrlicht (and possibly openGL as a whole) handles models. The same model would need to be loaded multiple times in memory so it can be colorized separately to give the feel of lighting changing on it. 17:48 Taoki Even if such was possible however it would be bad. Would mean loading the same mesh into memory multiple times (once for each player instead of once at all) and batch rendering (which improves performance) wouldn't be doable 17:48 Taoki The only way to fix it (and the right way) is hardware lighting. If only a way to stop such lights from shining in caves was found though... 17:48 Taoki Shaders were partly added for the intent of allowing that in the future. Way too much for me to know how to do it 17:50 Taoki Using real Irrlicht lighting would be awesome also because it would allow for pretty directional lighting. It's something MineTest will need to ever raise above the detail level in MineCraft. Such will also allow bump mapping, gloss and shiny surfaces, etc. 17:52 frogcrush Hi, anyone ever get about 5 fps with updated vid drivers? 17:52 mauvebic if irrlichts' lighting is better there must be some good reason we dont use it? 17:52 VanessaE Taoki: hmmmm is working on a new lighting system I think 17:53 Taoki VanessaE: Ohh? Any screenshots? 17:53 Taoki Hopefully it's real hardware lighting 17:53 mauvebic theres one in screenshots thread in general 17:53 Taoki mauvebic: Yes, one reason mainly: Light can't be masked so that the sun doesn't shine in caves for example 17:53 VanessaE Taoki: none that show it off yet, just one early one (see the "post your screenshots" thread) where he ran into a weird bug 17:53 Taoki ok 17:53 mauvebic well the sun shining in caves is kinda moot - at the edge of viewing range everything is white no matter how deep undeground you are :p 17:54 Taoki Ahh, this one http://ompldr.org/vaHJnNw 17:54 Taoki Doesn't look like HW lighting, though the feeling is pretty nice 17:54 Taoki Idea however is: Use the current voxel lightmaps as masks for hardware lighting. Not areas where to brighten the color in order to simulate light 17:56 Taoki Or well, cut lighting which would also yield in dynamic shadows. Would look beautiful and kill the FPS :P But it would keep light from shining in caves 17:57 jordan4ibanez Yes! And we'll be able to use dynamic light in torches, and have carriable torches and flashlights 17:57 jordan4ibanez also: should I give the sheep a rear wheel instead of legs? 17:57 Taoki I think the current lighting system is one of the biggest issues in MT. And having to use fake light over real hardware light. If only someone with knowledge could fix it... I tried and it's very hard to 17:57 VanessaE Taoki: hmmmm is working on it. :) 17:57 mauvebic fake light you say? :P all my light fixtures have to place invisible light nodes haha 17:58 Taoki VanessaE: Is his work really hardware lighting though? 17:58 mauvebic its the only way to achieve a decent amount of lighting with the present setup without placing torches up the wazoo 17:58 VanessaE Taoki: I don't know. 17:58 Taoki That screenshot didn't look like that 17:58 khonkhortisan_ Using some delayers, I made a button that turns on the clear wire,then on the set wire, off set, then off clear. When I connected it to the rest of my circuit, I found out I had to increase the delays just because of the complexity of what it connected to. 17:58 Taoki prolly not then, but I don't know what he's working on so 17:59 VanessaE well I take that back, the parts he is working on are mostly for trees 17:59 mauvebic well whatever he's doing with lighting, its gotta be better than what was there, that hasn't been touched in a long time :p 17:59 VanessaE (e.g. what you get with the L-systems, spawn_tree() call) 17:59 mauvebic what do lighting and trees have in common? 18:00 VanessaE mauvebic: because of the sheer number of nodes that have to be updated when a tree is spawned. 18:00 PilzAdam mauvebic, seen the black trees that randomly appear? 18:00 VanessaE big trees can be 5000+ nodes. 18:00 mauvebic lol thats nothing compared to schems and bins 18:00 VanessaE that's a huge load. 18:00 mauvebic the default trees were black yeah, i thought that was some funky leaf decay bug lol 18:01 mauvebic how am i to guess lol for the longest time i thought the "hand" was actually the end of a wood shovel lol 18:02 mauvebic anyways, the lighting problems affect many mods 18:02 mauvebic and even the mapgen, random bright and dark spots 18:03 NotReallyNick frogcrush: What operating system? 18:03 Taoki Yeah. Thre mapgen has to bake mightmaps which only increases world creation more 18:03 frogcrush NotReallyNick: Windows 8 18:03 NotReallyNick Well there's your problem, frogcrush. Windows doesn't function. 18:04 frogcrush NotReallyNick: Yes, yes, windows sux 18:04 frogcrush NotReallyNick: Unless you need it to participate in school classes (stupid GoToMeeting) 18:04 NotReallyNick Sorry, I know nothing of gaming on Windows. 18:05 NotReallyNick I use Windows to run one application I need for class. But Ubuntu for everything else. 18:05 mauvebic theyre both about as bloated lol 18:05 NotReallyNick In a week, I get to delete Windows, too. 18:05 frogcrush That's what Arch is good for 18:05 frogcrush Less bloat 18:05 frogcrush Its on my flash drive 18:05 mauvebic usually im the one to say that :p 18:06 Taoki Ouch... Windows 8. Many things are said not to work there 18:06 frogcrush I haven't found anything that hasn't worked 18:06 mauvebic crunchbang in the 9.04 days was a good take on debian/buntu 18:06 Taoki Win 7 is good though, I recommend it to non-Linux users 18:06 NotReallyNick mauvebic: I tried Debian instead, but I get a frame rate of two with all graphics options disabled. 18:06 frogcrush Windows 8 is what I recommend, because its easier to use 18:06 mauvebic i know, binary drivers on debian suck 18:06 mauvebic both of them 18:06 kaeza Taoki, that is not true. there's only ONE thing that does not work under Win8 18:07 kaeza Win8 itself :P 18:07 mauvebic i know they dont go out of their way to make proprietary work properly so i just dont bother with them, i want an OS, not politics 18:07 frogcrush kaeza: lol 18:07 NotReallyNick Taoki: That can be said about any version of Windows, not just 8. 18:07 Calinou Taoki: win 8 is faster, has a better task manager, and you can get the win 7 features with ClassicShell 18:07 Calinou and it's more up to date 18:07 Calinou (more support by microsoft and ISVs) 18:07 frogcrush And you can get apps 18:07 frogcrush I like playing Dodo Gogo on Windows 8 18:08 Calinou frogcrush: less bloat? even a $300 machine with a celeron can run xubuntu just fine 18:08 Calinou RAM is cheap 8) 18:08 Calinou (not really these days. but it still is.) 18:08 mauvebic our celeron or any celeron? :p 18:08 Calinou a more modern one 18:08 mauvebic lol 18:08 kaeza XD 18:08 Calinou the one in this room is 22 years old or so 18:08 frogcrush Calinou: idk, my sisters laptop can't run Ubuntu worth a crap, 3GB ram, 1GHz dual core processor 18:09 Calinou *cough*which dual core processor*cough* 18:09 Calinou in AMD world, "dual core" means "one module", in intel world, "dual core" means 2 real cores (and maybe HT) 18:09 mauvebic perhaps we should rename all our moderators after different processors? 18:09 Calinou both of them try to create fake cores with varying degrees of success :P 18:10 * Calinou renames mauvebic to i7-3970X 18:10 Taoki heh. It would be hilarious if sommeone named Intel made a MineCraft-like engine too. Then they'd meet the creator of MineTest :) 18:10 Taoki Or AMD 18:10 mauvebic i said moderatos :P 18:10 mauvebic *moderators 18:10 mauvebic moderatos = mexican moderators? 18:10 Calinou lol 18:10 Taoki c55's right hand should be named "i7" 18:10 * Calinou is updating misa's pack 18:10 Calinou diamond/bronze tools, jungle sapling, obsidian glass, snow mod updates 18:11 Calinou 0.4.6 support in advance :) 18:11 mauvebic did they pull the snow biomes to default? 18:11 NotReallyNick No. 18:11 Calinou nope, but I like supporting a lot of mods :P 18:11 Calinou oh also I'll add support for weather mod 18:11 mauvebic hm, seems natural that it would eventually be 18:11 mauvebic jeija got that old weather branch to work? 18:13 VanessaE Calinou: don't forget to add checks to moreores to disable the included ones if the new ones in default are present. 18:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: did copper blocks got excluded from default for a particular reason? 18:14 VanessaE get* 18:14 PilzAdam dunno 18:15 VanessaE Calinou: I believe those got deleted from moreores also, yes? 18:15 NotReallyNick You're the one that excluded them .. and you don't know? 18:15 VanessaE one of you two should probably add them back in :) 18:16 Calinou [suggestion] give worlds a random name (eg. World1133, just like guests) when not putting any name 18:16 Calinou I'm sick of naming my worlds "lol", "dude", "ttttt" or so to test stuff around 18:16 Calinou :< 18:16 PilzAdam Ill probalby add them to default 18:17 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: Thank you! 18:17 Calinou VanessaE: not yet, I'll do that 18:18 mauvebic calinou better than the names i came up with lol 18:18 mauvebic one of which, became a permanent map for a while lol 18:18 kaeza Calinou, +1 for auto naming worlds 18:19 jordan4ibanez Horrible idea: shaders, in lua 18:19 Jeija never tried to get it to work, mauvebic 18:19 mauvebic it already did? 18:19 Jeija no, i just never compiled it or anything 18:19 mauvebic ah ok so its new 18:20 Jeija What is new? 18:20 Exio [15:16:43] I'm sick of naming my worlds "lol", "dude", "ttttt" or so to test stuff around 18:20 Exio i just have like 15 random worlds 18:20 Exio with names like asdfqwerty 18:21 mauvebic well the weather mod, is it based on something or written from scratch? i saw the screen but dont remember the details 18:21 Jeija It's written from scratch, based on my particlespawners; has nothing to do with the weather branch apart from the textures 18:22 mauvebic ah cool, always better from scratch :-) 18:22 mauvebic especially with all the changes in api since weather branch lol 18:24 jordan4ibanez jeija: You should have your weather branch alias mapgen air to weather block, and spawn particles accordingly 18:24 Calinou 'dinner, bye :) 18:24 Calinou misa pack update will be up soon 18:24 Calinou (about 15 minutes) 18:24 Jeija Wut? Why should I do something like that? It would just totally lag everyting. I made ParticleSpawners, I know what I'm doing ;) 18:25 Calinou snow ABM == slow, very 18:25 Calinou even on my PC 18:25 khonkhortisan_ there's already a mod that uses rain nodes, and it's horribly slow 18:25 mauvebic i know :P but weve all seen some pretty crazy ideas on here too lol never hurts to ask 18:25 Jeija I know, snow ABM is a problem; but I already use neighbor air 18:26 mauvebic snow abm? 18:26 mauvebic snow biomes or weather? 18:26 kaeza what's up Doc? 18:26 Jeija The ABM for spawning snow covers when it snows 18:26 mauvebic kk 18:26 Doc22 hey Kaeza 18:26 Doc22 not much 18:27 kaeza haven't seen you around in octuteam lately 18:27 mauvebic though i could see where it might get confusing: if you have snow biomes installed, and its snowing in other biomes, then technically wouldn't the whole map turn to snow biome? 18:27 khonkhortisan_ there could be another weather type called hail where it's fewer larger snow particles that instantly create snow cover on impact 18:27 Doc22 ik kaeza 18:27 Doc22 i havent had time 18:27 Doc22 my life is getting cramped 18:27 Doc22 plus, I'm on and off with things 18:27 mauvebic well if someone comes up with a decent volcano mod you'd have lava springs/rain :p 18:27 kaeza oh :( 18:27 Doc22 so one month interest in this 18:27 Doc22 then another thing 18:27 Doc22 then another 18:27 khonkhortisan_ lava rain! 18:27 Doc22 then this again 18:28 Doc22 im kinda feeling like it so when i have time 18:28 khonkhortisan_ oh, oops 18:28 Doc22 i really have to get my game done 18:28 Doc22 im going to be in public school this year 18:28 khonkhortisan I already had one of these open 18:28 Doc22 so i will have hardly any time 18:28 Doc22 i need to finish my game, fast... 18:29 kaeza that's good 18:29 Doc22 my goal is first release 18:29 Doc22 so how is it going kaeza :D 18:29 kaeza just annoying the fine people of this channel as always :D 18:29 Doc22 lol 18:29 Doc22 working on anything? 18:30 Doc22 mods? 18:30 khonkhortisan Is there a mod that removes everything that's unregistered? 18:30 kaeza some updates to my long lost mods 18:30 Doc22 hmm 18:30 Doc22 sounds cool 18:30 mauvebic "Father who killed six of his kids by setting house on fire described as loving dad" ---> segfault 18:30 kaeza and getting inspiration to work again on my game 18:30 Doc22 and khonkhortisan there is but i dont remember the name been too long 18:30 Doc22 i think that it is world cleaner or something liek that 18:31 Doc22 and kaeza what is your game? 18:31 Doc22 any web sites or anything 18:32 khonkhortisan "clean" makes me type in the node names, I'm looking for something that can figure that out on its own 18:32 mauvebic ugh, how can i get phone calls on the cell saying i won a free cruise? i thought cellphone telemarketing was illegal 18:33 khonkhortisan maybe it's cell phone lottery instead 18:33 mauvebic have a hard time believing participating in a survey entitles me to a cruise lol 18:34 mauvebic and with all the stories lately, avoid cruise ships like the plague lol 18:34 MinetestBot GIT: minetest-services commited to minetest/minetest: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' 82709549ff 2013-04-03T11:32:13-07:00 http://git.io/lCQfoQ 18:34 khonkhortisan evacuation isn't fast enough either 18:34 rarkenin|Away Yeah, but the "cruise" is a leaky rowboat in the middle of a puddle on some random road. 18:34 VanessaE Calinou: you forgot to include aliases in moreblocks for those stairsplus nodes. 18:34 jojoa1997|Tablet yay halfway through aliases 18:35 mauvebic or a refurbished Lusitania lol 18:35 VanessaE (e.g. technic concrete) 18:35 mauvebic modern roads has concrete too 18:35 mauvebic another thing that makes sense in default 18:35 mauvebic what is concrete but sand and stone and water after all 18:38 NotReallyNick Concrete is modern, but the Minetest world really isn't. Concrete wouldn't fit in. 18:39 VanessaE NotReallyNick: my map seems to be reasonably "modern". 18:39 NotReallyNick Your map is very modern. But it's also nowhere near default. He said it would make sense to add it to default. 18:40 NotReallyNick I'm not against adding concrete, I'm just against bad logic. 18:40 VanessaE true, true. 18:40 VanessaE to be fair, 18:41 sfan5 i accidently applied the water shader to terrain: http://i.imgur.com/7Mf9SlI.png 18:41 VanessaE the explored the idea of concrete in The Flintstones movie ;-) 18:41 Doc22 hey vanessae long time no see :) 18:41 jojoa1997|Tablet what does it do different 18:41 VanessaE hey doc 18:41 VanessaE 0gb: if that isn't the antithesis of "modern", I don't know what else is ;) 18:41 mauvebic lol what mods do you run again? 18:41 mauvebic concrete wasnt invented recently, asphalt is the more modern equiv. 18:41 mauvebic and it makes sense to add something to default when several mods define their own versions of the same material 18:41 mauvebic leading to multiple entries in the inventory of the same bloody thing lol 18:41 mauvebic well youre logic is not to change anything at all so i doubt anyone's still listening to you :p 18:42 NotReallyNick I can't tell the difference with all that fog in the way. 18:42 jojoa1997|Tablet i think concrete should not be added 18:42 jojoa1997|Tablet until we get a smelting or mixing machine added to default 18:42 jordan4ibanez the fak sfan5 18:42 NotReallyNick No. As I said, I'm not against adding concrete. I'm just against it being added "because concrete is modern". 18:42 jojoa1997|Tablet we need more machines in default 18:43 VanessaE why? concrete has existed since at least 300 BCE. 18:43 VanessaE possibly as far back as 800 BCE. 18:43 jordan4ibanez add the water shader to sand, except don't make it animated, so we can have wavey deserts 18:43 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but we need a machine to mix it 18:43 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: i was working on a path to use all shaders in the client/shaders dir and not just the hardcoded test_shader_(1|2) ones 18:43 NotReallyNick Adding concrete is fine, and if the logic is "because a lot of people use it", that's way better than "because it is modern". 18:43 jordan4ibanez Oh nice 18:43 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: wrong again. the guy who did the remodeling on my house here mixed it in a wheelbarrow. 18:44 jojoa1997|Tablet a machine 18:44 jojoa1997|Tablet in minetest we mix with our hands 18:44 jojoa1997|Tablet also vanessae 18:44 VanessaE he used a shovel and wheelbarrow. 18:44 NotReallyNick In short mauvebic, I'm NOT against adding things. 18:44 jojoa1997|Tablet i think handmade stuff is better quality 18:44 jojoa1997|Tablet we use hands and hands 18:44 VanessaE heh, the driveway repair he did with it was definitely not higher quality than could have been achieved with a machine. 18:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean made by hand 18:45 NotReallyNick mauvebic: Besides obsidian, what have I been against adding? 18:45 rubenwardy jordan4ibanez: someone made a website that is a blacklist 18:45 jojoa1997|Tablet not placed 18:45 jordan4ibanez Why is there no links to it anywhere 18:45 jordan4ibanez is/are 18:46 jojoa1997|Tablet checking minecraft to see if i should remove desert sand 18:46 NotReallyNick Desert sand is not in Minecraft. 18:46 jojoa1997|Tablet thought so 18:46 jordan4ibanez Hey wait 18:46 jordan4ibanez items don't stop when they're on top of an entity 18:47 Doc22 in my game im going to aim for some epicly epic terrain gen 18:47 jordan4ibanez You can make a bowling alley using entities now 18:47 Doc22 not neccesarily realistic 18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet i like minecrafts creative and survival inventoery 18:47 Doc22 but ima play around with it and make some cool mountains 18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ping 18:47 PilzAdam pong 18:47 NotReallyNick Is the name ping thing not case sensitive? 18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet how have you progressed on the armor 18:48 Doc22 it isnt case sensitive 18:48 rubenwardy kaeza: nice wii 18:48 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, that is client based 18:48 jojoa1997|Tablet notreallynick test 18:48 NotReallyNick Ah. I see. 18:48 Doc22 well assuming your using qwirc 18:48 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, not started yet 18:48 kaeza rubenwardy, wee* 18:48 kaeza :P 18:48 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam 18:48 jojoa1997|Tablet you ned to make a chisel tool 18:48 jojoa1997|Tablet wait nvm 18:49 jojoa1997|Tablet not in minecraft 18:49 NotReallyNick Jojoa, I don't get pinged for things happening in the current tab, so that test was void. Thanks for trying though. 18:49 jojoa1997|Tablet you need to make some buildings that spawn like dessert and jungle temples 18:49 jojoa1997|Tablet and light redstone 18:49 mauvebic i didnt say concrete was modern, i said modern roads used it, read properly pls 18:49 mauvebic that back tarry crap they lay on roads now is the modern cheap stuff 18:49 mauvebic concrete makes more sense then obsidian for starters lol 18:49 mauvebic you build more things with concrete 18:49 mauvebic lol for the longest time people complained the game was imcomplete and didn't change, i can see why when everything is an eternal debate lol 18:49 mauvebic what the? lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5414 18:50 Exio did you get lag or that was me 18:50 NotReallyNick Fisrt, just about everything makes more sense than obsidian. That's not a high bar. 18:50 jojoa1997|Tablet uh i didnt know i built on any mapo 18:50 jordan4ibanez neked sheep does not approve of you http://i.imgur.com/Nzjqppw.png 18:51 NotReallyNick Second, "used for modern roads" is still about the same as adding it because it is modern. 18:51 Doc22 pilzadam in the big trees mod, how did they get the trees to generate over several chunks 18:51 Doc22 wouldnt it give an error 18:51 Doc22 because it generates into ungenerated chunk? 18:51 PilzAdam I think it loads mapblocks 18:52 Doc22 so it generates the mapblocks that it needs? 18:52 PilzAdam just a guess 18:52 Doc22 ok 18:52 Doc22 who made that mod again? 18:53 PilzAdam VanessaE 18:53 Doc22 ok 18:53 Exio moretrees? :P 18:53 Doc22 nununu the one with huuuge giant trees 18:53 VanessaE moretrees. 18:53 Doc22 hmm 18:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam http://minecraft-ids.grahamedgecombe.com 18:53 Doc22 ok then 18:54 Doc22 I just see the problems that could occur if I tried making somethign liek this 18:54 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, hm.. I think I just give you access to my MiniTest repo 18:54 Doc22 typos... 18:54 jojoa1997|Tablet Also pilzadam for Minitest please look at the cart and rails in minecraft 18:54 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok 18:54 Doc22 because say a tree generates in chunk a 18:55 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, just dont mess it up 18:55 Doc22 and needs to load chunk b 18:55 Doc22 to continue 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Though you would need to do the carts stuff 18:55 rubenwardy (7:30:43 PM) mauvebic: "Father who killed six of his kids by setting ... 18:55 rubenwardy I saw that on the news... 18:55 mauvebic ugh, speaking of rails, i have to do diagonals today lol 18:55 Doc22 then chunk b needs to load 18:55 Doc22 c 18:55 Doc22 which needs to load d 18:55 Doc22 etc 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet I won't add my request till aliases doen 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Doen 18:55 khonkhortisan diagonal rails? 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Done 18:55 mauvebic rubenwardy yeah and more more they are getting off scott-free on mental health defense, its sickening, shoplifters do more hard time 18:56 khonkhortisan I made diagonal rails 18:56 mauvebic i meant in nodebox 18:56 PilzAdam wtf is wrong with this guy? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81087#p81087 18:56 khonkhortisan diagonal vertically? 18:56 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/3930269302 18:57 Doc22 lol 18:57 Doc22 what a big city 18:57 mauvebic PilzAdam didnt know you were building there 18:57 PilzAdam me neither 18:57 mauvebic :p 18:57 jojoa1997|Tablet I didn't know I was either 18:57 khonkhortisan I'm not a builder 18:57 mauvebic haha 18:57 mauvebic 885 posts and absolutely nothing of substance said so far 18:57 Doc22 and what he says about c55 18:57 Doc22 lol 18:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Celeron55 are you beta testing likwid's link map 18:57 rubenwardy jordan4ibanez: I have no idea where it is 18:58 mauvebic c55 doesnt even play minetest anymore does he? 18:58 mauvebic or so i read somewhere on the forums 18:58 khonkhortisan he's still on the other channel 18:59 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81092#p81092 18:59 rubenwardy Kaeza: the real name is "Wii" I assume you have added a spoof one 18:59 jojoa1997|Tablet What channel 18:59 jojoa1997|Tablet He does but rarely I think 18:59 Doc22 lol 18:59 jojoa1997|Tablet After a year of knowing everything I think it might get boring 18:59 jojoa1997|Tablet Three years 18:59 Doc22 i didnt think you guys were building with him... 19:00 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81092#p81092 19:00 jojoa1997|Tablet Look at his comment 19:00 mauvebic well, the day people stop making mods is the day everyone tires of the game, but i dont see that happening soon 19:00 rubenwardy (7:56:48 PM) mauvebic: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3930269302 19:00 rubenwardy Nice 19:00 mauvebic without constant new content it would get boring fast 19:01 NakedFury too much fun to stop playing it 19:01 mauvebic thanks, missing diagonals and rail merge tho 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam I will make a list of what needs to be made/changed that I do not have the ability to do 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet And I will keep the biome stuff ignored until mapgen7 comes 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet Though I don't know what would be good things 19:01 Doc22 lol 19:02 mauvebic 90 degree angles on the default rails just looks, well, weird lol 19:02 rubenwardy wtf is wrong with this guy? ... 19:02 rubenwardy on the more positive side, at least it is in the right section 19:02 Doc22 he is really not understanding 19:02 Doc22 but yeah 19:02 Doc22 kinda improvement 19:02 rubenwardy I cant what for v7 19:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Same hete 19:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Here 19:03 jojoa1997|Tablet And he spots like me but I have MOSTLY credible posts 19:03 mauvebic zimg.eu hasn't worked for 3 days now... anyone had any success w/ it? 19:04 Sketch2 Iceweasel can't establish a connection to the server at minetest.net..?? 19:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Thexyz I can't connect to minetest.RU it says wrong password 19:04 Doc22 you impostor 19:04 jojoa1997|Tablet 19:04 Doc22 lol 19:04 jojoa1997|Tablet 19:05 jojoa1997|Tablet /nick Doc22 19:05 PilzAdam mauvebic, no 19:05 PilzAdam :-) 19:05 PilzAdam *:-( 19:05 Doc22 huh? 19:05 mauvebic ok so its not just me 19:05 Doc22 oh 19:05 Doc22 i know you are real jojoa 19:05 Doc22 i am joking because "thats why you cant get on" 19:05 mauvebic keep hearing steve jobs saying "youre uploading it wrong!" lol 19:05 jojoa1997|Tablet In tried add a before your name 19:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Space 19:06 Doc22 hrmm 19:06 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaHo5Ng/screenshot_3451299199.png 19:06 jojoa1997 hello 19:06 Doc22 lol 19:06 thexyz jojoa1997|Tablet: http://minetest.ru/auth/ 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet What 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Ft here is nothing there 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol 19:07 thexyz everything is there 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet I joined mineterst-dev 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet I get 404 19:08 thexyz login maybe? 19:08 thexyz isn't that obvious? 19:08 jojoa1997|Tablet i geti get 404 19:10 jojoa1997|Tablet when will tnt get added back into the game 19:12 NotReallyNick TNT is too dangerous. 19:12 mauvebic prolly never lol enough griefing materials already available :p 19:12 NotReallyNick I hope it isn't added. 19:14 NakedFury it if gets added give it the shape of dinamite sticks and not a cube/block/node shape 19:15 Exio there should be functions for doing the explosions in the core but for be used in mods 19:16 mauvebic removing a spherical area of nodes doesn't really require cpp optimization does it? 19:16 rubenwardy mauvebic: by "prolly" do you mean "probably" 19:19 mauvebic this aint #grammar 19:19 mauvebic and i aint english 19:19 mauvebic considering how many english people cant spell in their own language, i think im doing pretty good 19:19 VanessaE yeah but you're a canuck, we kinda expect good grammar/spelling from you lot :D 19:20 Exio mauvebic: the block damage should be "calculated" with the damage_groups or similar of the nodes plus using an option would be easy to do for disabling block damage (but not entity damage) in servers 19:20 NotReallyNick mauvebic: Agreed. Native speakers need to get their acts together. 19:20 mauvebic im a quebecker first though 19:20 rubenwardy mauvebic: I was just wondering what you meant 19:20 Doc22_ stupid disconnection 19:21 rubenwardy at first glance I thought you were mentioning proller_ (the dev) 19:21 mauvebic and we get enough of that crap from our own english minority 19:21 mauvebic its a touchy subject :p 19:21 mauvebic with 40 years of politics backing it up lol 19:21 rubenwardy A grand total of 0 people in #grammar 19:22 mauvebic naw i dont even know who proller is :p 19:22 kaeza rubenwardy, all my computers are spoofs :P 19:22 rubenwardy I see 19:22 * VanessaE watches /clearobjects feast on RAM. 12GB so far and counting 19:22 rubenwardy well, I dont see 19:22 kaeza "Snapple PiePad" 19:22 Doc22_ :O 19:22 rubenwardy but I understant 19:22 rubenwardy d 19:22 rubenwardy that is cool 19:22 Doc22_ thats a crapton of ram 19:23 mauvebic in quebec as little as 20 years ago, we were told to speak "white" 19:23 VanessaE /clearobjects completed after 13GB was used - which was not freed. 19:23 VanessaE holy smokes. 19:23 kaeza more of a joke than actual worry of © infringement lol 19:23 Doc22_ (>:) FEAST! FEEEAST!!!!) 19:23 Doc22 finally 19:24 rubenwardy (8:19:29 PM) mauvebic: considering how many english people cant spell in their own language, i think im doing pretty good 19:24 rubenwardy mauvebic: every society have their fair share of idiots :D 19:24 kaeza hehe 19:24 mauvebic lol yeah no kidding euro-french and quebec french have very little in common and we hardly understand eachother either lol 19:25 rubenwardy but not in chuck norris' kingdom 19:26 mauvebic in fact euro-french seems to employ more anglicismes than the french here lol 19:27 mauvebic 'des runnings" => 'espadrilles' qc 19:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: oh G*d I hate these powered rails. They can't connect to neighboring regular rails 19:27 VanessaE they look horrible on things like rollercoaster inclines/hills 19:27 NakedFury they should 19:27 Deivan I need force the load of one area of the map... Someone have a idea? 19:27 mauvebic lately were getting boatloads of french emigrants here 19:27 VanessaE they don't, and I'm at latest git for the engine and carts. 19:28 alex256 someone needs to put together a list of names/ips those who grief ...so others could just add them to the ban list of their map before it goes public....83.5.118.196|agiet....for intance is adds protection blocks and lava buckets...a real mess to clean up./ 19:28 mauvebic a simple hall of shame with a publicly accessible blacklist 19:29 alex256 yes! 19:29 alex256 their are more people destroying than building.... 19:29 Deivan AFK 19:30 mauvebic why do you think i run my server as a sealed off police state? lol 19:31 alex256 a mod that allows admins to undo everything a person has done would be awesome...i couldn't imagine the coding it would take though 19:31 mauvebic you mean rollback? 19:31 NakedFury link server accounts to forum accounts and it gets harder or more troublesome for bastards to mess with your server 19:31 alex256 yes but only affecting the one person screwing everything up 19:31 mauvebic well, the infrastructure is there with public server lists 19:32 mauvebic we just need public blacklists we can update and D/L 19:32 alex256 yes i agree 19:32 NotReallyNick Linking to forum accounts also requires people HAVE forum accounts though. 19:32 alex256 i have one 19:32 mauvebic linking to forums is bad idea 19:32 mauvebic what happens when forums go down 19:32 NakedFury then you cant have new players 19:32 NotReallyNick Also, it's centralized. When the forum goes down, no one can log into any Minetest server. 19:33 NakedFury same thing that happens to any other multiplayer game when account creation is down 19:33 alex256 how bout a git gub black list anyone can download? 19:33 NotReallyNick So, it's a bad idea. 19:33 alex256 ...github 19:33 mauvebic how about we just use hosts/ip 19:33 NotReallyNick An optional Github blacklist seems fine to me. 19:33 NakedFury well find an alternative because just simply creating a new account in less than 1 minute is shit 19:33 NotReallyNick Host/IP is also fine. 19:34 mauvebic it wont take long to track down all the proxies when the usual suspects go through their lists 19:34 NotReallyNick Attacking the game to the forum is even more shitty. 19:34 NotReallyNick *Attaching 19:34 alex256 agreed 19:35 mauvebic though i have a hard enough time connecting without firewalls and proxies i have no clue how others manage to do it lol 19:37 alex256 is there a priv for bucket ? 19:38 NotReallyNick No. 19:38 alex256 lava and water is my biggest issue 19:38 NotReallyNick You could add one. 19:38 mauvebic you could also remove buckets and rely on givemes 19:38 alex256 good idea! 19:38 Doc22 ahh, the joy of configuring a dns server 19:39 alex256 simple ishould have thought of that 19:39 alex256 i still think it should be in the privs 19:40 NotReallyNick Add it then. 19:40 alex256 hmm i'll have to work on it... 19:43 mauvebic lol http://youtu.be/LyDOAQNsTrI 19:43 rubenwardy (8:31:03 PM) alex256: a mod that allows admins to undo everything a person has done would be awesome...i couldn't imagine the coding it would take though 19:43 rubenwardy Roll back 19:43 rubenwardy only does one person 19:45 jordan4ibanez Man these sheep are probably going to have the most broken walk cycle ever :P either that or they're going to look like they have a disability 19:45 rubenwardy alex256: redcrab's 0.4.4 server has a mod that means that players can not empty buckets on others land, or unprotected land 19:45 mauvebic well at a certain point, the tradeoff in overhead isnt worth it when regular backups do the job fine 19:46 mauvebic what you need is a script that shuts down, backs up, and restarts the server at regular intervals 19:46 mauvebic im sure some people already have that in place 19:46 markveidemanis Hi 19:46 markveidemanis I need someone to test a mod on a server 19:47 VanessaE what mod? 19:47 VanessaE (and why can't you test it on your own server?) 19:47 mauvebic trojans dont work that way :p 19:48 markveidemanis 86.133.52.240 19:48 VanessaE haha 19:49 mauvebic "Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s personal popularity is anemic, as he has a dismal -30 favourable rating" who knew it could be in the negative lol 19:49 IceCraft Good Morning/Evening 19:49 markveidemanis Plz join 19:49 markveidemanis Im testing the gamemode mod 19:50 Exio connect multiple clients 19:50 alex256 #/undo_all ....that undoes everything has done would be sweet. 19:51 markveidemanis /rollback 19:55 rubenwardy bye all 19:56 VanessaE cya rubenwardy 19:56 rubenwardy :P 19:57 mauvebic wow, jim cramer is a real guy 19:57 mauvebic i thought he was some moron made up by king of the hill lol 20:38 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Bump version to 0.4.6 37acadc2af 2013-04-03T13:36:25-07:00 http://git.io/wezL8g 20:41 jordan4ibanez sheeps lose their wool when you punch them! http://i.imgur.com/3RPc2bL.png 20:42 hmmmm those sheep look surprised as fuck 20:42 jordan4ibanez I know xD 20:42 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Update doc/lua-api.txt f85c1165c2 2013-04-03T13:41:18-07:00 http://git.io/7kljwQ 20:43 jordan4ibanez When they stand, they kind of jive out 20:44 NotReallyNick Version bump .... The time may be drawing near ... 20:45 NotReallyNick Oh! Already tagged. 20:46 mauvebic OT question, how often do muslim extremists recruit natives in europe? the media is saying all sorts of things here (re cdn connection in algeria) 20:47 NotReallyNick No tags on common yet though, so not quite ready to release, probably. 20:58 kaeza VanessaE, spam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81113#p81113 20:58 kaeza (or flamebait) 20:59 mauvebic ugh im sick of all these nonposts lol 20:59 * NotReallyNick doesn't trust shortened URIs. 20:59 NotReallyNick Let me rephrase: 20:59 mauvebic how much you wanna bet its the same guy answering himself 21:00 * NotReallyNick doesn't really trust shortened URIs 21:01 NotReallyNick My server and laptop are racing to finish compiling Minetest first. 21:01 kaeza mauvebic, the link points to minecraft.net 21:01 kaeza obvious flamebait 21:01 mauvebic i meant likwid == OP 21:01 kaeza well... that wouldn't surprise me :P 21:02 kaeza after all, that guy is pretty crazy/st00peed 21:02 VanessaE kaeza: deleted, banned. 21:02 kaeza VanessaE, thanks :) 21:03 NotReallyNick And the laptop is winning. The server had a head start, and the laptop caught up. A bad sign for the server. 21:03 VanessaE kaeza: several armchair colors in homedecor git now. 21:03 kaeza wot 21:03 kaeza this I gotta see 21:03 VanessaE color-matched to the curtains :-) 21:03 VanessaE (except I didn't add white, figured that one wasn't really needed) 21:03 NotReallyNick Nice. 21:04 mauvebic ugh, we need to implement node painting :p 21:04 mauvebic dont have the slightest clue how it would work, but being able to define a node once and use different textures would save alot of IDs 21:04 mauvebic though that would likely mean a param3 21:05 VanessaE mauvebic: there are plans in the works for this also. 21:05 mauvebic sweet :-) 21:06 mauvebic like with pipes: sometimes i like em clean white, but for other projects (dirty old industrial stuff) a rusted color would do better, but imagine defining several sets for the number of nodes lol 21:06 kaeza VanessaE, cool :) 21:09 jordan4ibanez entity interpolation would be nice :3 21:13 VanessaE kaeza: why for you drop "Admiral" machines from computers mod? :( 21:14 kaeza VanessaE, I'm remaking them 21:14 VanessaE oh ok 21:14 VanessaE guess I better back up one version then 21:14 kaeza More detailed, and able to turn on/off 21:15 kaeza Let me add them 21:15 VanessaE ok 21:17 jordan4ibanez find_node_near(pos, radius, nodenames) for nodenames, what would I use for walkable? 21:17 VanessaE I don't think there's anything for that 21:18 VanessaE you have to do it the hard way 21:27 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix camera "jumping" when attached and the parent goes too fast c1bf6f9f7a 2013-04-03T14:22:40-07:00 http://git.io/Eu4jrw 21:32 kaeza VanessaE, updated. download from github 21:32 VanessaE thanks 21:32 kaeza They have the ugly old models for now 21:33 kaeza I'll update the models later 21:33 kaeza np :) 21:33 VanessaE heh, they weren't *that* ugly :) 21:34 kaeza yeah, but I'll make them a bit more detailed (raise the front of the 128 version) 21:34 kaeza and add the Nientiendo GameNode :D 21:34 kaeza (NGC) 21:36 VanessaE heh 21:36 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Check if the address field is empty when hitting enter on the multiplayer tab 2a0badf2d5 2013-04-03T14:33:17-07:00 http://git.io/PSQ3WA 21:39 mauvebic lol http://youtu.be/7cfVLFquuNc 21:57 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb ping 21:58 jojoa1997|Tablet NotReallyNick / 0gb ping 21:58 NotReallyNick Hmm? What? I'm awake. 21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet wil you server version add 0.0.1 to its curent version? 21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet OBSIDIAN! 22:00 NotReallyNick Why 0.0.1? We are up to 0.4.6, now. Much better than 0.0.1 was, I imagine. 22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet 0.4.5 + 0.0.1 = 0.4.6 22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet is it up to date? 22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet your server? 22:00 Jordach-360 hey all 22:01 NotReallyNick I'm working on the update, I hit a wall. 22:01 jojoa1997|Tablet joprdach xbox? 22:01 NotReallyNick Hello. 22:01 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb what the prob 22:01 Jordach-360 yes 22:01 NotReallyNick The issue is in adding the jungles to the old world. 22:01 us_0gb muwhahaha 22:01 NotReallyNick It should kick you off that name. 22:02 us_0gb wait 22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb why dont you use that name? 22:02 Jordach-360 anyways. my girlfriend is asking if the indev mapgen has sky islands 22:02 PilzAdam Jordach-360, yes 22:02 NotReallyNick Yes, it does. 22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet but hwat is the prob of adding jungles what happens 22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet what how do i add the sky gen 22:03 Jordach-360 anyways. thx 22:03 Jordach-360 bye 22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam how do i add sky islands 22:03 PilzAdam use indev mapgen 22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet is it in 0.4.6 22:03 PilzAdam yes 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i enable them 22:04 PilzAdam you can select it minetest.conf 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet grr 22:04 PilzAdam mg_name = indev 22:04 NotReallyNick The jungles and dungeons just don't want to join our old world. I'll make it work though, don't worry. 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet you need to add check boxes for mapgen 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet notreallynick why 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet what happens wrong 22:05 NotReallyNick Is indev basically the unstable mapgen packaged in the stable version? 22:05 PilzAdam yes 22:05 NotReallyNick Why is they don't show up. I'm on it though. 22:05 NotReallyNick I made it work yesterday, and I'll make it work today. 22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet you have to generate new land 22:06 VanessaE PilzAdam: the latest carts alongside the latest git with that camera following fix = MUCH nicer. 22:06 VanessaE good work. 22:06 jojoa1997|Tablet carts updated? 22:06 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, no 22:06 NotReallyNick Jojoa, even in new land they don't show up. 22:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, yes :-) 22:06 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: not since you last updated maybe, but my copy was getting pretty old. 22:09 NotReallyNick Jungle file acquired. 22:09 jojoa1997|Tablet i love it 22:09 jojoa1997|Tablet the new tools work correctly 22:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: one glitch. hard to explain here, can you come to my server? 22:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, if you hold shift while being detached you are teleported back to your starting point 22:10 VanessaE nope, that's not it :-) 22:10 VanessaE I know about that one. 22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet tell us 22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet here 22:11 VanessaE it has to do with how pistons, rails, and carts interact. 22:11 PilzAdam Ill come to your server 22:11 VanessaE ok 22:11 PilzAdam in like 19 hours when the media is downloaded >:-( 22:11 VanessaE heh 22:11 VanessaE there's a recent cache on my server page if it'll help any 22:11 PilzAdam why dont you set up a server so one can download it with curl? 22:12 PilzAdam link? 22:12 VanessaE too lazy to set up cURL. link = http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Cache.tar.bz2 22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet !up 0gb.us 22:14 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 seems to be down 22:14 NotReallyNick It's backing up the world, in case of damage. Then starting. 22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet cant wait 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet has obsidian factory made 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet and the diamonds mean faster digging 22:15 NotReallyNick I removed the obsidian. 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet WHAT \ 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet why 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet that is bad 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet stupid 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet why remove it 22:15 NotReallyNick Late April fools! Obsidian is still there. 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet >_< 22:16 Kacey hi all 22:16 NotReallyNick Hello, Kacey. 22:16 us_0gb i hate you all 22:16 us_0gb grrr 22:16 jojoa1997|Tablet hahaha 22:16 * jojoa1997|Tablet has the power 22:16 Kacey jordan4ibanez, do you need a sidekick (or want one) for your new series? 22:16 NotReallyNick Jojoa, no obsidian factory though. Lava doesn't regenerate. 22:16 jordan4ibanez no 22:16 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 22:16 jojoa1997|Tablet shoot 22:17 jojoa1997|Tablet wait 22:17 Kacey why not j4i? 22:17 jojoa1997|Tablet you are using build game right? 22:17 jojoa1997|Tablet so renewable lava 22:17 NotReallyNick No. I'm using common. 22:17 jojoa1997|Tablet then add the build mod 22:18 NotReallyNick Build has no land claims or warp points. 22:18 NotReallyNick Drats. I forgot to turn of particles after updating. 22:21 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: Build has no land claims or warp points. 22:22 NotReallyNick Oops. I was too late. 22:22 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb go to the build game folder 22:22 NotReallyNick !up 0gb.us 22:22 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 is up (0.330ms) 22:22 jojoa1997|Tablet do it 22:22 jojoa1997|Tablet are you there? 22:22 NotReallyNick Oh, I didn't miss you. 22:22 jojoa1997|Tablet go to 22:22 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest/games/build/mods 22:22 NotReallyNick I don't have the build game on my computer. 22:23 jojoa1997|Tablet there is your bones mod and a build mod 22:23 jojoa1997|Tablet oh one sec 22:23 NotReallyNick Even if I did, 0gb.us_game gets its node definitions from common. 22:23 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/minetest 22:23 jojoa1997|Tablet fine one sec 22:23 NotReallyNick I'm trying to get things moved to common. See my pull request there. 22:25 jojoa1997|Tablet ok but 22:25 jojoa1997|Tablet can i have link to 0gb_game github 22:25 NotReallyNick https://github.com/0gb-us/0gb.us_game 22:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam did you add me to minitest github? 22:25 NotReallyNick Yes, he did. 22:26 proller who can make parachute mod? 22:26 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb 22:26 jojoa1997|Tablet can you change mesefix mod to nodefix 22:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i will add my code there 22:26 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes 22:26 jojoa1997|Tablet since there is no other spot 22:26 jojoa1997|Tablet jojoa1997|tablet 22:26 NotReallyNick I can tomorrow. Today I have to finish work that was due yesterday. 22:27 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 22:27 NotReallyNick What code? 22:27 jojoa1997|Tablet lsvs nodes 22:28 NotReallyNick Or did you pull request? 22:28 jojoa1997|Tablet no 22:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant cause github doesnt paste 22:28 jojoa1997|Tablet wait one sec 22:29 NotReallyNick I paste into Github's web interface sometimes. 22:29 kaeza YouTube: Y U NO USE PLAIN TEXT FOR EMAILS?? 22:29 VanessaE there, roller coaster works again. 22:29 PilzAdam kaeza, Y U USE GOOGLE SERVICES? 22:29 NotReallyNick kaeza: Why do you not use good spelling and proper grammar? 22:29 VanessaE 0gb: a silly meme. 22:29 kaeza NotReallyNick, because meme? 22:30 VanessaE "http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/y-u-no-guy 22:30 VanessaE -\" 22:30 NotReallyNick I don't understand why that thing is popular. All it is is bad English all around. 22:30 kaeza PilzAdam, any other site for hosting videos? :) 22:31 kaeza let me guess... google it :) 22:31 PilzAdam myvideo.de 22:31 VanessaE kaeza: vimeo? 22:32 kaeza meh.. 22:34 jojoa1997|Tablet wtf 22:34 NotReallyNick Hmm? 22:34 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant add a pull request 22:34 kaeza will stick with YT 22:34 jojoa1997|Tablet 404 22:35 NotReallyNick I get that issue too. Try deleting your 0gb.us_game and redownloading it. Github says 404, but it's not really a 404, it's a different error. 22:35 NotReallyNick Or you can do a reverse pull request. Hold on. 22:35 NotReallyNick I'll pull request to yor copy. 22:35 NotReallyNick *your 22:35 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i do a reverse pull request 22:36 jojoa1997|Tablet too latew 22:36 NotReallyNick I don't see yours. Did you delete it before I could pull request? 22:37 jojoa1997|Tablet \yep 22:37 jojoa1997|Tablet mine was 9 days old 22:38 jojoa1997|Tablet so i updated by delete and refork 22:38 jojoa1997|Tablet and i added a pull request 22:38 NotReallyNick It was probably from before we removed everything from minetest_game. 22:39 NotReallyNick Jojoa: That's a common issue, not a 0gb.us_game issue. Pull request to common, not me. 22:39 ShadowNinja kaeza: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/530 22:39 jojoa1997|Tablet no i mean a temporary fix for your server 22:39 jojoa1997|Tablet wait 22:40 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, closed 22:40 kaeza ShadowNinja, seen that. Thanks! 22:40 rotor112 hi 22:41 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb please add it 22:41 rotor112 default_rail_crossing and default_rail_t_junction are not necessary 22:41 mauvebic ugh, havent written a class in ten years lol here goes nothing 22:41 rotor112 you can use ^ and transform 22:41 jojoa1997|Tablet it is temporary until the other code gets added 22:41 jojoa1997|Tablet you had said we would be using build mod 22:41 NotReallyNick That's a common issue, not a 0gb.us_game issue. Get build/build moved to common/build, and we'll talk. 22:42 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam 22:42 jojoa1997|Tablet can you move builb/build to common 22:42 jojoa1997|Tablet and 0gb thi is a fix for your game 22:42 NotReallyNick I'm already trying. In a pull request. 22:42 rotor112 it's 0:42 am in de 22:42 jojoa1997|Tablet a TEMPORARY fix 22:42 rotor112 p.a. is sleeping 22:42 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, of course not 22:43 jojoa1997|Tablet why not 22:43 NotReallyNick Temporary or not, it doesn't belong in 0gb.us_game. 22:43 jojoa1997|Tablet well neither does redefining mese 22:43 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, because its a game specifc mod and not a common mod 22:43 RealBadAngel im the same time zone, and it doesnt mean im sleeping at all ;) 22:43 jojoa1997|Tablet and pilzadam why not 22:43 NotReallyNick He just said why not. 22:43 kaeza hello RBA 22:43 rotor112 UTC+2 22:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i thought the point of common was to move all the mods to common not have basic and common 22:44 kaeza the stargates are awesome 22:44 rotor112 yes 22:44 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb why not add the tempoorary fix 22:44 * rotor112 thinks so, too 22:44 NotReallyNick I don't redefine mese, I only remove the mese shards because they do nothing. It's to prevent people from accidentally wasting their mese. 22:44 jojoa1997|Tablet iit wiiill be goonee when yyouur puull requesssssssst iss addeed 22:44 rotor112 default_rail_crossing and default_rail_t_junction are not necessary: you can use ^ and transform 22:44 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet issssssss a creeper! 22:45 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb you should add my pull request cause 22:45 NotReallyNick Temporary fixes are fine, but that sort of code doesn't belong there, it belongs in common, where everyone can use it. 22:45 jojoa1997|Tablet yours will never make it 22:45 NotReallyNick If mine will never make it, then the "temporary" fix isn't temporary, right? More reason NOT to add it. 22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet who can merge pull requests 22:47 NotReallyNick Anyway, I'm trying to get bones and give_initial_stuff moved to common. Those aren't "game specific", so maybe it will work. Who knows. 22:47 PilzAdam bye 22:47 NotReallyNick Bye. 22:47 kaeza bye 22:47 kaeza too late :( 22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb grr 22:47 NotReallyNick I'm powerless to help. I'm sorry. 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet my fix gives you power 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet you just chose to ignore 22:48 rotor112 default_rail_crossing and default_rail_t_junction are not necessary: you can use ^ and transform 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet cause it is still default 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet and 22:48 NotReallyNick Your fix is incompatible with the project goals. 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet from my memory and the logs somewhere you said you would be using the build game 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet so i am bringing build game to you 22:49 rotor112 https://github.com/HybridDog/minetest_TPconverter/commit/5320ea08867057c9becbf7661b524994a26dbb43 22:49 NotReallyNick Yes, that was while I was still confused from the game split. 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet but i still did what you said 22:49 rotor112 I made a mistake at the stonebrick 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet so it is compatable 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet rarkenin 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet didnt 0gb say he was going to use the build game for the server so we can have renewable lava 22:50 NotReallyNick No, not compatible. It being in my plan at some point doesn't mean it's compatible. 22:50 * VanessaE pokes Menche 22:50 rarkenin Yes, I am rarkenin. Punctuation would really be helpful so I know if you're asking a question, excited at my presence, etc. 22:50 NotReallyNick I did say that, but while I was still trying to get my bearings from the game split. 22:50 rarkenin Anyway, ask 0gb.us, AKA NotReallyNick. 22:51 VanessaE rarkenin: insert totally unenthusiastic, vague statement here. 22:51 VanessaE ;) 22:51 NotReallyNick 0gb.us really isn't Nick. Honest! 22:51 rarkenin VanessaE: Sorry, confused. Negative or positive? 22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet didnt 0gb say he was going to use the build game for the server so we can have renewable lava? 22:51 VanessaE rarkenin: neutral. 22:52 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: I did say that, but while I was still trying to get my bearings from the game split. 22:52 rarkenin OK. 22:52 VanessaE :D 22:52 jojoa1997|Tablet what you said at that moment IS THE LAW 22:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i choose what people say is the law 22:52 jojoa1997|Tablet naked fury please update your texture pack 22:53 rarkenin As admin and moderator, we choose otherwise. :) 22:53 NotReallyNick I also said arround that time that I'd not upgrade, and that I would upgrade, but remove obsidian. Should I do those too? 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet n 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet no 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i choose what people say is the law 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i choose 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet me 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet not you 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet me 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i say that comment is LAW 22:53 NotReallyNick Then you are being inconsistent. I can't help you. 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet no 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet i am consistant with my wants 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet muwhahaha 22:54 VanessaE you're consistent at being inconsistent ;) 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet haha i am consistant 22:54 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, could you please STFU? thanks :) 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet what does that mean? 22:54 NotReallyNick Okay. Fork it. It' under whatever license Minetest is under. Do whatever you like with the code, and turn it into your perfect game. 22:55 kaeza there is only one that can judge us 22:55 kaeza he is.... 22:55 kaeza Judge Dredd! :D 22:55 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb april fools 22:55 VanessaE haha 22:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i like the challenge of non renewable lava 22:56 NotReallyNick Untill we have renewable tools that break obsidian, renewable obsidian may be a bad idea anyway. 22:56 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i find a lava cave and boom enough lava for veryone 22:56 jojoa1997|Tablet renewable stone 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet go on server 22:57 NotReallyNick Stone is as strong as wood used to be. So it can't break even mese any more, let alone obsidian. 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet then what is wood 22:57 Menche and obsidian is really a type of glass... 22:58 NotReallyNick Wood is even weaker now. 22:58 NotReallyNick I KNOW! Obsidian is BRITTLE, not unbreakable ..... 22:58 Menche the only other place where obsidian is tough is in Minecraft 22:58 ShadowNinja I only need wood to break three stone, but everything else should be faster 22:58 NakedFury did someone add more options to weapons streangth and blocks too? 22:59 NotReallyNick I know "brittle" and "unbreakable" sound similar if you say them out loud, but still ... there is a difference. 22:59 NotReallyNick Menche: Yeah, it's a Minecraft cloning decision. 22:59 kaeza NakedFury, grab my firearms and blast the sucking nodes to hell with the rocket launcher 23:00 kaeza fuck damage calculation :) 23:00 ShadowNinja we should make it cracky level 3 23:00 * jojoa1997|Tablet grabs tnt mod 23:00 NakedFury add more levels to those cracky or squishy or whatever 23:00 jojoa1997|Tablet rarkenin 23:01 jojoa1997|Tablet update client please 23:01 rarkenin What? 23:01 jojoa1997|Tablet my protocol version doesnt match 23:01 ShadowNinja he gave you your hacked client? 23:02 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: I disabled anticheat because it was bothering everyone. But if you use your hacked client to use fast, I'll turn it back on. You've been warned. 23:02 ShadowNinja oh, right you use windows 23:02 jojoa1997|Tablet nono 23:02 jojoa1997|Tablet i like the night vision 23:02 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont use fast 23:02 jojoa1997|Tablet too easy on a survival server 23:03 NotReallyNick I don't care if you use a hacked client to fly or see in the dark, or whatever. Just no fast/teleport. 23:03 NakedFury I like how you add difficulty to survival when there is nothing to survive from 23:03 jojoa1997|Tablet from others 23:03 ShadowNinja lava and other players :-) 23:03 NakedFury players dont count 23:04 NakedFury not when you have -0% chance of hiding 23:04 ShadowNinja oh, and fall damage, 90% of my deaths are that 23:04 NakedFury that always on player names on top ruin that 23:04 ShadowNinja there is a setting for that 23:04 NakedFury we need to remove players name. and add dialog bubbles when a close character talks 23:05 NakedFury you can remove it? when did I miss that 23:05 jojoa1997|Tablet tyay 23:05 NotReallyNick I don't like the dialog bubbles thing. It should be configurable to be enabled or disabled. 23:05 ShadowNinja infinite_player_send_distance = False or something like that 23:06 NotReallyNick You only can remove it for distant platers, not all players. 23:06 NakedFury ok but still remove the visible names on top of characters 23:06 ShadowNinja I like those 23:06 NotReallyNick It only removes the visible names for distant players. 23:06 NakedFury that breaks ANY chance of player combat or survival in the game 23:06 jojoa1997|Tablet same 23:06 jojoa1997|Tablet then add a setting 23:06 jojoa1997|Tablet for only seeing same team 23:06 jojoa1997|Tablet or add if shift then hide na,e 23:07 ShadowNinja teams would be nice 23:07 NakedFury bubble chat dialog would be useful for roleplay servers where you see the dialog bubble on top of the chatting player only if you are close enough, say 20 nodes from him 23:07 kaeza Player names should be drawn like other objects in the game, not as an "overlay". also, maybe make them show only when pointing at player 23:07 jojoa1997|Tablet no 23:07 jojoa1997|Tablet then you cant know who people are 23:07 jordan4ibanez is the force_load commit in yet? 23:07 Menche simplest way would be to put the name on an entity, then attach the entity to the player 23:07 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb can i have noclip 23:07 NakedFury if shown by pointing at character then it has be incredibly close and direct line of sight 23:08 neganexus Is it just me or is minetest.net down? 23:08 kaeza neganexus, yes 23:08 jordan4ibanez it is down 23:08 jordan4ibanez forum.minetest.net 23:08 NotReallyNick No one gets noclip, not even us moderators. Rarkenin only phases through things because he hacked his client. 23:09 jojoa1997|Tablet oh 23:09 neganexus Sorry to ruin another conversation, I was just wondering. Thanks 23:09 jojoa1997|Tablet i thought you had it 23:09 NakedFury we need those hacked clients to find ways to counter them 23:09 NakedFury down with fucking cheaters 23:09 NotReallyNick Yeah, minetest.net is down. 23:09 kaeza ^ 23:09 NotReallyNick NakedFury: I agree. 23:09 jordan4ibanez Everyone must wear a diaper before they view my next mod I'm releasing 23:10 Menche could examining the logs of a server where hacked clients are used give a clue to how the hack works? 23:10 NotReallyNick jordan4ibanez: Then I will not view it. 23:10 Menche or is enough info logged? 23:10 kaeza jordan4ibanez, and maybe release it as non -ND? 23:10 NotReallyNick Menche: We know how they work already. 23:10 jojoa1997|Tablet nakedfury can you update your pack 23:10 Menche is it fixable then? 23:10 NotReallyNick At least some of them just don't check priveleges. 23:11 NotReallyNick I don't know if it's fixable. 23:11 NotReallyNick It would require a lot more server side checks. In other words add more to anticheat. 23:13 NakedFury Im all for Pro-anticheat features 23:14 NotReallyNick Me too. But we first need to fix the current anticheat to not pester non-cheating players, before we try to expand it. 23:15 NakedFury can this clients even play in a protected server? where they need priviledges to do anything? 23:15 NotReallyNick They can't build or dig, if that's what you mean. 23:15 NotReallyNick That's all server side. 23:16 Menche so they can't hack in "interact"? 23:16 NotReallyNick Correct. 23:16 NakedFury so for now all we can do is ban hackers and wait for them to come back with a new name and beg to let them play? 23:16 NotReallyNick Fly, noclip, and fast are the only client-side privileges, so the only ones they can hack in. 23:17 NakedFury could those be moved server side? 23:17 NakedFury would that stop them? 23:17 NotReallyNick I don't think banning is the answer. Then people just try to hide their hacked clients. 23:17 ShadowNinja fast is already prevented 23:17 EduardeCalibal I have a fail here: 23:17 EduardeCalibal 19:57:45: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...t/minetest/bin/../games/common/mods/default/init.lua:2450: attempt to call field 'cool_lava_flowing' (a nil value) 23:18 NotReallyNick I don't think they can be moved server-side without moving the whole client server side. 23:19 ShadowNinja fly and noclip would be possible but would require a lot more load on the server 23:19 NotReallyNick The same goes for night vision hacks, but I don't really mind those. I turn my monitor's brightness up and get the same effect without hacking. 23:19 jojoa1997|Tablet it would make too much lag 23:19 jojoa1997|Tablet well i cant 23:20 NotReallyNick Like I said, I don;t mind night vision hacks. I mind fast and noclip hacks. 23:20 NotReallyNick I don't even mind fly hacks, to be honest. 23:20 ShadowNinja night vision is imposible to stop without a custom os or something 23:20 rarkenin Or if Minetest sent rendered images to clients, which would be insanely slow and make me quit within seconds. 23:21 NotReallyNick That's what I meant by moving the client server-side. Only images and sound would be sent to the "client". 23:21 VanessaE ShadowNinja: it may not be impossible to stop, but there's a way to make it a real pain in the ass for such folks: cut the display down to like 2 or 3 shades of grey in the dark regions. Only ramp it up to full colors where there's light. 23:21 rarkenin Ah, OK. 23:22 VanessaE do this at the server side when the lighting of a given node is updated for day/night transitions 23:22 rarkenin VanessaE: That doesn't help against my modifications. Any light sent to Irrlicht is forced to 255. 23:22 VanessaE well maybe that would do much good I guess. 23:22 EduardeCalibal I don't see how use all translations in the game, have a option to it in some place? 23:22 VanessaE rarkenin: yeah but what good does it do to see dark grey lit up to light grey if there are no details to see? :) 23:23 kaeza EduardeCalibal, what OS? 23:23 EduardeCalibal GNU Linux 23:23 kaeza try this: 23:23 rarkenin What do you mean? I can easily descern nodes. 23:23 kaeza LANG=pt bin/minetest 23:23 Menche to use languages, i think you have to enable gettext 23:23 jojoa1997|Tablet sweet 23:23 VanessaE well I guess. 23:23 Menche cmake -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 23:24 jojoa1997|Tablet a mese block gives you a full set of mese tools 23:24 EduardeCalibal Not now... But thanks. :D 23:24 NotReallyNick VanessaE: You don't need to see what type of node it it, just WHERE it is. 23:24 VanessaE well that's true.. 23:24 EduardeCalibal I have a bug with old text in the air... 23:24 EduardeCalibal -.- 23:24 EduardeCalibal From some type of sign mode. 23:24 VanessaE then suppose the server sends you nothing but dark nodes ;-) 23:24 VanessaE all 1 or 2 colors. :D 23:24 jojoa1997|Tablet almost there 23:24 NotReallyNick Also, that sort of thing would make client texture packs impossible, I think. 23:24 Menche on one of my monitors, i can see in the dark really well; on another monitor, i can see nothing in the dark 23:25 jojoa1997|Tablet will 3d signs be added 23:25 jojoa1997|Tablet menche same here but 23:25 NotReallyNick Menche: Same here. 23:25 rarkenin Same here, before I modified everything. 23:25 jojoa1997|Tablet my bigscreen tv is the dark one 23:25 VanessaE 3d signs are part of homedecor, jojoa1997, for whatever its worth 23:25 NakedFury minetest nights are almost zero visibility nights 23:25 kaeza VanessaE, rendering is client-side; only the "shapes" are sent by the server; the client is free to do what it wants with the "shape" 23:25 Menche so a lot of that has to do with the client's computer's contrast and monitor 23:25 VanessaE kaeza: hrm, good point 23:25 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae it would be a good option to add to default 23:25 kaeza that means lighting hacks are truly impossible to avoid 23:26 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: no. pilzadam's code is buggy. 23:26 jojoa1997|Tablet also my tv is angled so i see the screen lightest way possible 23:26 VanessaE unless you're talking minItest again and not minetest/common 23:26 NotReallyNick By 3D sins, do you mean the signs with no infotext that you have to squint at to read? 23:26 VanessaE (in which case I don't give two shits what you guys do with minItest) 23:26 NotReallyNick *signs 23:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean the nodebox ones 23:26 jojoa1997|Tablet that also show the words 23:26 EduardeCalibal Putz... My game crash after load any time... -.- 23:26 ShadowNinja rarkenin: where did you put the code to change the light to be always 255, I know hmmmm was thinking of something like that, but he was doing it with the mapgen 23:27 NotReallyNick So yes. Those are a pain to read, the default signs are better. 23:27 rarkenin I was just doing it in light.cpp 23:27 Menche the signs that show the words are nice, but you have to punch them to update sometimes 23:27 VanessaE NotReallyNick: just make a bigger font then. 23:27 jojoa1997|Tablet but still it shows 23:27 kaeza VanessaE, that's also partly how the famous "wall hacks" on FPS shooters used to work 23:27 jojoa1997|Tablet and same happens to me with regulr signs 23:27 Menche i think they use entities? 23:27 VanessaE Menche: yes 23:28 NotReallyNick VanessaE: With a bigger font, nothing will fit on the sign. 23:28 jojoa1997|Tablet hehehe 23:28 Menche ah, so the server "eats" the text entity when that block is unloaded 23:28 Menche and you have to punch it to get it back 23:28 VanessaE NotReallyNick: make the sign bigger ;) 23:28 VanessaE really though, the problem is not the mod. 23:29 Menche the text on the sign is nice, but the huge amounts of text you can have on the current signs is also nice 23:29 Menche i like the multiline signs 23:29 NotReallyNick VanessaE: So .. a mult-node sign? Why not stick with the current signs, which actually work? 23:29 VanessaE the problem is the rendering engine being brain dead stupid at handling distance scaling. mipmap+aniso helps, but the engine still only uses nearest neighbor 23:29 Menche and anisotropic doesn't work on all clients 23:29 Menche on my laptop it's just fine, on my netbook it blurs everything 23:30 Menche i though bilinear got enabled at first 23:30 Menche *thought 23:30 VanessaE on my machine, aniso blurs everything, but I only use it with high-rez textures. 23:30 VanessaE well, blurs things in the distance, bilinear blurs further. 23:31 rarkenin I don't like *linear filtering. 23:31 rarkenin I do use anisotropic and shaders. 23:31 Menche anything below 128x looks horrible with *linear 23:31 jojoa1997|Tablet everything is blurred for me but i like it 23:31 jojoa1997|Tablet and i like low res blur 23:32 Menche mipmap+aniso is what i use 23:32 jojoa1997|Tablet i use all 23:32 Menche and fsaa 23:33 Menche fsaa makes the selectionbox much smoother 23:33 rarkenin I think nodes should be able to define their own shaders. 23:34 jojoa1997|Tablet what do shaders do? 23:34 Menche grr, no menu option for fsaa, only in minetest.conf 23:35 Menche jojoa1997|Tablet: something to do with lighting 23:35 jojoa1997|Tablet what fsaa do? 23:35 Menche smooths the selectionbox 23:35 jojoa1997|Tablet what do i put in cof 23:35 Menche also there's a difference on the horizon with fsaa 23:35 Menche fsaa = 8 23:35 jojoa1997|Tablet what 4 or 16 do? 23:36 Menche yeah 23:36 Menche 4 isn't as noticable, 16 blurs everything 23:36 Menche i think 8 is the best 23:36 jojoa1997|Tablet YAY 23:36 jojoa1997|Tablet i got to 5 digits on 0gb.us's server 23:36 jojoa1997|Tablet monument time 23:38 NotReallyNick Digits? 23:38 jojoa1997|Tablet 10000,0,10000 23:39 NotReallyNick I don't see why you all build so rediculously far away, but have fun! Did you see any jungles along the way? 23:39 jojoa1997|Tablet i was 300 nodes away 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet so not yet 23:40 NakedFury in a server so other undesirables dont mess with our stuff 23:40 NakedFury on my single game I build near spawn or where I find a cool place 23:40 Menche IMO, if you build far away to avoid griefing, you may as well play singleplayer 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet i still havent found a good spot and 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet i have TONS of papyrus and clay 23:41 NakedFury unless its a combat server and you want a secret hq and safe spot 23:41 NotReallyNick If you find one, would you mind picking my up a sapling please? I only need one. Don't go looking for them for me, just if you happen to see one. 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet find what 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet and what are you saying 23:41 Menche jungle sapling? 23:41 NotReallyNick No one has found my base yet, even as close to the spawn area as it is. 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet oh 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet i have 23:41 NotReallyNick Yeah, a jungle sapling. 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet but i will not tell others 23:42 NotReallyNick You found my base? where? 23:42 NotReallyNick *Where? 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet im not telling du secret 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet and also i am not going there 23:42 NotReallyNick PM it. I don't think what you found was my base. 23:43 NotReallyNick The room behind the wall isn't my base. 23:43 * Menche has the sudden urge to go on 0gb.us' server and scour the spawn area looking for it 23:43 * NotReallyNick welcomes the challenge 23:44 ShadowNinja lol, that didn't work: http://ubuntuone.com/0Pbj57vg8eYiWIePqOPADn 23:44 NotReallyNick By the way, the slightly hidden thing under 7.5,7.5 is not my base, Menche. 23:44 Menche ??? 23:44 Menche i haven't been on your server yet 23:44 kaeza ShadowNinja, wat 23:44 Menche ShadowNinja: what were you trying to do there? 23:45 ShadowNinja make everything full light, I see the issue now 23:45 kaeza custom skies? 23:45 kaeza ah 23:47 ShadowNinja why does changing a few charachters suddenly require a complete recompile? 23:48 hmmmm rarkenin, there is a Mapgen method called setLighting() that you can use 23:49 ShadowNinja hmm, now the ground is lit but the sky is brown 23:50 hmmmm shadowninja, because you changed a header file that everything uses 23:51 ShadowNinja yep, I guesed 23:51 jojoa1997|Tablet PAPYRUS 23:51 NotReallyNick Papyrus is no longer rare. Nothing to shout about. 23:52 jojoa1997|Tablet yes it is when you find it naturally 23:53 ShadowNinja it works properly now 23:53 Kacey get a piece and you have a farm now 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet rarkenin 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet ypou should move to florida it is hot water 3/4 of the year 23:59 NakedFury the other 1/4 is when you would actually want the hot water like in winter right? 23:59 rarkenin Jojoa1997: I don't like hot weather. I can stand cold weather better. 23:59 rarkenin And I have a heated inground pool anyway. 23:59 rarkenin And a large school one in which I regularly practice.