Time Nick Message 00:04 Sketch2 why's uploading to the 'net so slow? 00:05 mauvebic prolly another DDOS against antispam people 00:06 Sketch2 nah, I mean back in the days of the Commodore 64, if you got a 300 baud modem, I'm pretty sure it was 300 baud both ways. 00:07 VanessaE Sketch2: two words: Copyright trolls. 00:07 Sketch2 even with 486's and such at 52k. 00:07 Sketch2 but cable caps it 00:08 VanessaE if it weren't for the litigious bastards out there who are scared shitless of fast upstream pipes, we would be seeing 30/30Mbps or more as standard. 00:08 Kacey afk 00:08 Sketch2 yeah, that must be it 00:08 VanessaE (I pay for 18/3, and get more like 30/3 on a good day) 00:09 Sketch2 this Gource render is gonna take 10 hrs to upload to YouTube 00:09 Sketch2 Minetest Gource - Uploading your video. 639 minutes remaining. Your video will be live at: http://youtu.be/eL9NGUD9Tl8 00:10 Sketch2 I get 2 gig down, think it's like 700k up 00:11 Sketch2 they were advertising something faster, but they haven't installed it in our area yet 00:11 mauvebic ISPs do trafic shaping, and alot more on UL 00:12 mauvebic a former ISP of mine cancelled my subscription in 2005 when i was able to prove it (and they sold me 'unlimited') 00:13 Sketch2 yea. gonna stretch my legs for a bit, maybe tidy up the room. 00:13 mauvebic we need better laws on usury and false advertising lol 00:15 Exio they do what they promise, they just "don't say stuff" in the "main paper" 00:15 VanessaE never gonna happen 00:15 Exio when you are buying their "service" you are accepting, because you probably never read, a thing like "you can fuck me and i will not say anything" 00:17 mauvebic well we used to have good laws on usury, once they were gone credit cards came along :p 00:18 mauvebic nowadays banks reserve the right to raise your rates and limit with prior warning/approuval 00:21 mauvebic *without lol 00:22 mauvebic checkpoints: http://ompldr.org/vaHltag/screenshot_3357330474.png 00:24 jordan4ibanez wow these sounds are coming out good, I guess this hq mic I got for christmaas is really nice :O 00:25 Sketch2 yeah, they act like you have to come to agreements of your own free will and accord 00:26 Sketch2 but once you're in agreement that you're thinking about an agreement, then the agreement always seems to change 00:26 mauvebic thank god they dont toss people in jail for debts here 00:26 mauvebic ive heard stories that in some states judges are putting debtors in jail 00:26 Sketch2 not officiallly. they just call it contempt instead 00:26 mauvebic which is strange since americans fought the revolutionary war in part for the right to bankruptcy 00:27 mauvebic a clean slate is part of the reason american industry took off as it did 00:27 mauvebic if youre not allowed to fail and start over, most people wont take the risk of trying 00:27 jordan4ibanez who would like to hear what i _hope_ will become the default sounds? :3 00:28 mauvebic youtube and link here :-) 00:28 Sketch2 they can't really order you tho, 'cuz once they order they're liable for the bill 00:28 mauvebic yall know what i think of money though - toilet paper with the queen's picture on it lol 00:29 mauvebic when banks make money/debt out of thin air i dont think much of it lol 00:29 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/23jql5z8rd4ndt0/soundpack.zip?token_hash=AAG7puPs-dTQqA-ZSTHP3wnBeGq9N3LVIHQepjqg45pkHQ&dl=1 00:30 mauvebic the only thing they dont produce is the interest to pay it off, so someone always loses 00:30 Sketch2 yea. I'll glance at it when I can. I don't wanna jinx my upload 00:31 Sketch2 with my luck, it'll get to 9-and-a-half hours of upload, then the connection will fail 00:31 mauvebic what are you uploading? 00:31 Sketch2 a render of the source code development 00:32 mauvebic big file? 00:32 Sketch2 4.5 gig 00:32 mauvebic dang lol 00:32 mauvebic i cant even upload an 800mb map lol 00:32 Sketch2 720p - 20 mins 00:32 Exio choripan ftw 00:36 OldCoder I think somebody did clearobjects... 00:36 Doyousketch2 code for alpha? 00:43 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HcI9ZmGeI we need this mod... 00:43 sokomine what does it do? 00:44 Kacey watch the video and find out 00:44 sokomine no. i usually don't watch youtube 00:44 sokomine can't even with my current browser. eliminated flash 00:45 kaeza sokomine, HTML5? 00:46 kaeza OldCoder, that's bad... someone should either fix or completely remove that command 00:47 mauvebic you need clearobjects, especially where bullets/arrows are involved 00:47 kaeza yeah, but it usually locks up the server 00:48 mauvebic well it needs to fixed not removed 00:48 kaeza Octupus called /clearobjects the other day... two days straight without server, until OC restarted it 00:49 mauvebic part of the blame lies with modders who dont take care of their own entities 00:49 kaeza mauvebic, that's not entirely true 00:49 mauvebic well if it takes *that* long, there must be a shitload of entities on the map 00:50 Sketch2 what is clearobjects? are you talking about alpha channel in images or something? 00:50 kaeza my firearms mod creates huge amounts of entities (especially the shotgun or the launcher w/ smoke enabled) 00:50 VanessaE clearobjects goes through the whole map and deletes all entities. 00:50 VanessaE MOBs, NPCs, dropped blocks, etc. 00:50 mauvebic well before you made firearms i made war and paysage mods and learned to add a killswitch after a timeout 00:50 mauvebic i dont need to clearobjets 00:50 kaeza and even then some entities are orphaned or whatever you call it 00:51 kaeza i.e. the game loses control of them 00:51 Sketch2 oh, ok. ty 00:51 mauvebic so youre saying people are placing too many mobs/NPCs ? 00:51 mauvebic a simple variable keeping track and capping the number of entities would fix that 00:52 mauvebic as for dropped nodes, im not quite fond of those as entities anyhow 00:52 Sketch2 currently tweaking stained glass into frosted glass and I'm having trouble with the lack of alpha, so I was hoping you were saying they were fixing that 00:52 mauvebic id rather delete/clear my inv 00:52 VanessaE Sketch2: not a chance. fixing that would be difficult at best 00:53 kaeza mauvebic, that's why I suggested that moretrees should not drop leaves as items on leafdecay 00:53 mauvebic well transparency works for water, using the same texture and alpha values on nodes and nodeboxes dont seem to work tho 00:53 mauvebic oh well i dont use moretrees per-say, i just use the models with an instant-spawner 00:53 mauvebic otherwise i treat the leaves like default leaves 00:54 mauvebic all im saying is, dont blame the devs if ya'll cant keep track of how many entities you let your players create :p 00:56 Sketch2 ok, wait- why's water different again? it's rendered differently than the rest? 00:56 kaeza mauvebic, it's not that you will fire a single shot/place a single mob in a 32 km³ 00:56 kaeza :) 00:56 mauvebic just a guess, but it must be the liquid drawtype 00:56 mauvebic i didn't quite understand that last statement :P 00:57 Sketch2 maybe it's calling a different part of the render engine 00:57 kaeza I mean, you have a 32000x32000x32000 world, and you plan to limit the number of npcs to 20 or 30? 00:57 mauvebic well take bullets for instance, real bullets fall to the ground after a certain distance and become inert, so theres no reason game bullets shouldn't 'die' after a certain time/distance 00:57 mauvebic as for mobs, put caps on how many of each can exist at any given time 00:57 Sketch2 wonder if glass could be considered solid water 00:58 kaeza mauvebic, IMHO that is the engine's task; to load/unload entities as need arises 00:59 kaeza you need not worry about that in mod code 00:59 kaeza *shouldn't need to 00:59 mauvebic hmm, well thats a debate you need to have with the devs not me 00:59 mauvebic i saw the problem and took care of it 01:00 mauvebic and its certainly technically possible with the API at hand 01:01 mauvebic thing is, performance improves slightly, so everyone goes overboard with the entities, which honestly, was shit a little while ago :p 01:01 Sketch2 kaeza, it's actually bigger than 32k x 32k x32k. it goes that far in each direction from 0,0,0 so it's really 64k overall. 01:02 kaeza ah yes :P 01:02 kaeza derp 01:02 Sketch2 it's ok 01:02 kaeza well... you got my pont anyway 01:02 Sketch2 yea 01:02 kaeza point* 01:04 mauvebic well, rather than remove a useful command, id go with a conf option to limit the total number of entities for any 1 instance of minetest 01:05 Naked turn down the power of the command 01:05 mauvebic naw, limit the total number of entities you can add to the world in the first place, so clearobject doesn't take a fortnight 01:06 Naked say /clearobjects 1 clears in your chunk or all the chunks surrounding your current position. like only 1 chunk outside your position 01:06 mauvebic ah well, maybe add a radius paramater to clearobjects? 01:06 mauvebic no param == all map 01:07 mauvebic though limiting the scope of clearobjects will do nothing to deal with the large amount of entities already present 01:07 mauvebic ittl just take longer to get it done 01:07 Naked also add a high level permission needed to use that command with a yes/no prompt after using it 01:07 mauvebic isnt clearobjects somewhere in /builtin? 01:08 mauvebic you can change /add the priv there 01:08 Exio http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#Mapgen 01:08 Exio "Fix ClearObjects - also add an option for active objects only " 01:09 mauvebic entities arent really mapgens/hmmmm's department tho 01:09 Exio that TODO list is mainly in "core" is what hmmmm wants to do 01:09 mauvebic mapgen just creates the world, its the ppl that add entities 01:10 Exio i know, i just said that to see what is the "things to do right away" 01:12 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HcI9ZmGeI we seriously need this 01:13 Naked the carts? 01:14 Doyousketch2 I've had the flippin' Scooby Doo background music rolling though my brain all day. kinda makin' me bonkers >:( 01:15 VanessaE Kacey: need what? that's a 33 minute video 01:16 VanessaE oh I se 01:16 VanessaE see* 01:16 VanessaE hah! good luck getting anything that fancy in MT any time soon 01:17 Exio what thing? 01:18 Exio i'm with a 7~11kbps download actually :/ 01:18 VanessaE watch the video, skip around through it 01:18 Exio i'd like to see it but i can't even load dpaste 01:18 VanessaE oh, well it's a cart with a fancy power and upgrade system and a fancy UI 01:18 Exio ah 01:18 Exio the only thing what i'd like in terms of fancyness is a proper shader support, but i just don't have idea how it works internaly 01:23 Doyousketch2 Exio, what's why I'm diagramming the source code. so we can get stuff like that done 01:25 OldCoder Hi 01:25 OldCoder News: I must cycle my worlds because one of them is gobbling CPU 01:25 OldCoder Possibly due to clearobjects; not sure 01:25 OldCoder Worlds will return in a few minutes 01:26 Exio BrandonReese: with "internaly" i meant how shader really work with irrlicht or even, where shaders run 01:26 VanessaE OldCoder: let it finish. 01:26 OldCoder VanessaE, cannot 01:26 VanessaE clearobjects takes upwards of 10 minutes and 10-12 GB to run 01:27 OldCoder I do not have CPU or RAM on that order of magnitude 01:27 VanessaE oh. 01:27 OldCoder It has been pegged for hours 01:27 OldCoder We can revisit this issue over the coming months 01:27 VanessaE eeek 01:27 OldCoder Indeeed :P 01:27 OldCoder Hmm. One world left... 01:28 mauvebic write a wrapper for add_entity that counts how many of them there are :p 01:28 OldCoder mauvebic, I mean... it does not wish to shut down 01:28 OldCoder I will give it a little more time 01:29 mauvebic yeah, like i said earlier, too many entities to begin with that shouldve been dealt with by the mod itself 01:29 Sketch2 Sketch != Brandon ; Sketch = Eli 01:33 mauvebic they should prolly just make a killswitch built-in for entities 01:33 Sketch2 I intend on mapping it down to the library level so we can all see that tho Exio 01:37 Naked do /clearobjects. the command counts how many entities it will clear and reports back to you: Clearing #### objetcs. To Continue type /yesclear or /Noclear 01:38 Exio the heavy/buggy thing is 01:38 Exio it loads the WHOLE map in ram 01:38 Exio and then does the stuff 01:38 Exio like, counting, clearing(?), etc 01:38 Doyousketch2 anyway, I gots'ta roll out to the store for a bit. - Sketch2 is AFK 01:40 mauvebic it loads the whole map in ram to clear objects? 01:40 mauvebic jesus 01:40 mauvebic even i dont do that for blueprints and theyre much smaller 01:49 Kacey jordan4ibanez, lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8BLWISYESI 01:49 jordan4ibanez :D 01:50 Kacey how did you get your voice so loaud? 01:50 Kacey loud* 01:53 jordan4ibanez i swallowed the microphone on accident 01:56 Kacey lol 02:00 Kacey night all 02:06 telek Anybody have a working ebuild for minetest? 02:07 jordan4ibanez ebuild? 02:07 jordan4ibanez the internet plays minetest?? 02:07 telek gentoo ebuild. 02:10 * telek had one working, but it's been acting up since the migration from c55's git repo. 02:12 * telek is currently getting a complaint about all the jthread namespace stuff not being prefixed. 02:20 Doc22 Hey Dogzilla131 02:20 Doc22 hey OldCoder 02:20 Doc22 long time no see :) 02:20 Dogzilla131 Hi Doc22 02:21 Doc22 hey' 02:21 Dogzilla131 I cant see you :P 02:21 Doc22 yeah yeah ik 02:21 Doc22 several months 02:21 OldCoder Hi 02:21 Doc22 im a heavy on/off kinda person 02:21 Doc22 one thing for a month 02:21 Doc22 another thing 02:21 Doc22 etc 02:22 OldCoder News: Restarting my worlds now. Allow a few minutes. Excuse delay. 02:22 Sketch2 telek, you're 'prolly just missing a dependancy somewhere 02:23 Doc22 oh Dogzilla131 the reason you cant see me is because I am not in 02:23 Doc22 ;) 02:23 Doc22 i cant right now 02:25 Dogzilla131 Im not either 02:25 Dogzilla131 I was talking about physically 02:27 Sketch2 you'll want to look for Gentoo versions of git or git-core build-essential libirrlicht-dev libgettextpo0 libfreetype6-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libsm-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev 02:27 Doc22 Dogzilla131 then why would you say I cant see you 02:27 telek Sketch2: Actually the ebuild used to use the native system versions of sqlite and jthread, which it appears minetest no longer likes. 02:27 Doc22 ohh 02:27 Doc22 :P 02:27 Doc22 now that i look at the text 02:27 Doc22 i see 02:27 Doc22 lol 02:28 Doc22 my thought is only the sentence im looking at 02:29 Dogzilla131 Can you see me? 02:31 Doc22 no lol 02:31 Doc22 i thought you meant in the user list 02:31 Doc22 or something 02:31 Doc22 so i was confused 02:32 Sketch2 if you can't find more recent builds for your system through the official repos, you might try them from FreeBSD, 'cuz Gentoo was upgraded with some FreeBSD code - http://www.freebsd.org/ports/master-index.html 02:32 Sketch2 tho I'd 'prolly build 'em from source. that's how Gentoo got started anyway 02:35 telek I'm already building them from source. 02:35 Doc22 soo bored... wish... i... could... be... on... my... own... computer... 02:35 telek It's just not working like it used to. 02:35 Doc22 want to code my video game soo much 02:36 Doc22 but im not a C++ coder; Im a java junkie :D 02:36 Sketch2 k, cool. if you have another computer laying around, you could put DistCC on there and speed up the compiling process 02:41 telek distcc is generally more of a hassle than it's worth. Also it's compiled fine, but appears not to be searching the right path for the minetest resources now. 02:45 kaeza what's up Doc? 02:46 Doc22 hey kaeza 02:46 Doc22 im not doing much 02:47 Doc22 i want to go back to my own computer sooo much 02:47 Doc22 im on a different one 02:47 Doc22 and i cant program 02:48 kaeza that sucks :( 02:49 Sketch2 telek, did you install it as user, or root? 02:49 Sketch2 you may have to change the folder permissions if you compiled with root 02:54 telek Sketch2: That was it. 02:54 telek There really needs to be some better sanity checks in the --verbose output for that. 02:56 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/fogRzSQ.gif 02:56 jordan4ibanez yeah 02:56 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaHluaw/screenshot_3366620276.png 03:02 telek Hrmm 03:02 telek sumpf is broken? 03:07 telek Also which foliage mods currently would 'clean up' the overgrown 'default' trees? I've got a bunch of trees up to or above cloud level that I'd like to ensure won't get chopped back to a 'reasonable' levels, if possible. 03:09 Sketch2 you could make a copy of the world then try moretrees. if it doesn't do what you want, swap it back 03:11 telek Already got it installed. 03:11 * telek will have to see if it munches them the next time he goes near a tall one. 03:12 Sketch2 I think it swaps out a few default ones with birch maybe. you'd have to glance at the thread or ask VanessaE, tht's her thing 03:13 * telek nods. 03:13 VanessaE moretrees replaces default trees at mapgen time only, with Beech 03:13 telek What's with this meshbuffer ran out of vertices error? 03:14 telek And is there a way to shut it up? 03:14 VanessaE it's a client bug. 03:14 VanessaE you might be able to shut it up by turning off fancy leaves 03:14 telek Also too many vertices for 16 bit something or other type. 03:14 * telek nods. 03:14 VanessaE RealBadAngel has plans to fix that issue 03:14 VanessaE properly I mean 03:15 telek Cool :) 03:15 telek Thanks RBA, whenever you get to it! 03:15 telek Say did Irrlicht 1.8 add OGL 3.x or 4.x support? 03:15 VanessaE dunno 03:16 * telek bets with some of the new scenegraph features and tesselation a lot of the current viewing range limitations could be reduced. 03:16 VanessaE dunno about that either 03:17 VanessaE I've built against 1.8 before but found no improvement (in fact, it was slower in the inventory screen) 03:17 telek Oh fun :( 03:17 Sketch2 I think it does OGL 3.x dunno 'bout 4 tho 03:17 telek Any idea why I'd be getting an error about incompatible versions when both the server and client are running 0.4.5 master? 03:20 telek Also is the animal mod any more stable now? 03:21 Sketch2 you know, I was seeing an error like that on V's server, about compatibility mismatch. I assumed I broke something by tweaking a file. 03:23 telek Might want to look through your recent commits then :D 03:25 telek Another question: Somebody was working on finite lava/water mods, how are they doing? 03:26 kaeza it's already in master 03:26 kaeza (in core engine I mean) 03:26 telek kaeza: Oh neat! 03:26 kaeza set liquids_finite = 1 in minetest.conf and create a new world 03:27 telek Does it require a player to be nearby, or will it automatically work through nodes with water movement? 03:27 kaeza it can fuck up existing worlds, so be sure to turn that off before switching to another world 03:27 * telek has seperate confs per-world. 03:27 telek Bummer though, so I'd have to regen to use it, eh? 03:27 kaeza not al all 03:28 kaeza it uses the default wter nodes 03:28 kaeza +a 03:28 telek Oh then how can it mess up existing worlds? 03:28 telek Just have all the water disappear down caverns? 03:28 kaeza dry up your oceans? flood your caves? 03:29 telek Yeah, that'd be alright on my world :) 03:29 kaeza okay, have fun then :) 03:30 telek Probably need a precipitation mod next to help replenish though, eh? :D 03:30 kaeza hmm... 03:30 telek Maybe with a raindance emote? :D 03:30 telek Rain rain come and stay, we need more water to fill our bay! 03:31 kaeza I bet that could be done with jeija's weather mod and an ABM that adds water nodes near the player 03:31 telek That would be pretty sweet. 03:32 telek Do unmodified nodes regenerate on reboot or something? 03:34 telek Sunny mildly cloudy day with a decent chance of spotty snowfall :D 03:35 telek Which mod would be cleaning up the ironwood trees? 03:35 jordan4ibanez pot was legalized in RI 03:35 jordan4ibanez stoners, stoners everywhere 03:35 jojoa1997|Tablet Exio: VanessaE http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-04-02#i_2977894 03:36 telek Rhode Island? 03:36 Exio what jojoa1997|Tablet 03:36 jojoa1997|Tablet I got $$-3)(,**$3%~√,§¥ once 03:37 telek About the only thing they can do to make up for that economic shortfall caused by throwing all their money at that baseball guy's games? 03:37 jojoa1997|Tablet It was a setup using trampolines and pistons 03:37 jojoa1997|Tablet I love the different things it gives but this one was weird 03:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Cause it still let me place blocks 03:38 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: haha 03:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol I just realized I found a portal to another dimension 03:39 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh and want to know what else I found? 03:39 jojoa1997|Tablet Guess 03:39 VanessaE no guesses. :) 03:39 jojoa1997|Tablet April Fools 03:40 VanessaE meh 03:40 VanessaE I hate April 1. 03:40 VanessaE for me that's over in 20 mins. 03:40 VanessaE THANK G*D 03:40 kaeza It was over 40 mins ago here :P 03:40 telek Well hey, better April 1st, than April 15th, amirite? :D 03:40 Exio Tue Apr 2 00:40:38 ART 2013 03:40 Exio grr kaeza :P 03:41 jojoa1997|Tablet Vanesaae 03:41 VanessaE telek: not for me, I'm retired :-) 03:41 VanessaE hm? 03:41 kaeza Exio, hmm... why do you have the same time as here? DST? 03:41 jojoa1997|Tablet I am the one who found the bug that teleports you 03:41 telek VanessaE: I suppose that could make it a little less of a hassle, eh? 03:41 Exio kaeza: because we are cool(tm) 03:41 kaeza lol nope 03:41 VanessaE telek: slightly so ;) 03:41 Exio kaeza: and no idea really :P 03:41 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: yep, that was you alright :-) 03:41 kaeza "hermanos" argentinos 03:42 kaeza gardel es uruguayo. punto 03:42 kaeza 03:42 jojoa1997|Tablet Funny 03:43 Exio uruguay == provincia de argentina sin "lo feo" de argentina :P 03:43 jojoa1997|Tablet When you have vertical setup you die but 03:43 jojoa1997|Tablet If you have horizontal you are teleported 03:43 kaeza lo peor es que los estamos copiando :( (planchas, etc) 03:44 * telek hrrms and is going to have to recruit all of his playerbase for a 'spring cleaning' of his server :) 03:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Any takers? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5389 03:55 jojoa1997|Tablet 5 more minutes 03:56 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, FFS, can't you use the "Edit" button? 03:56 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 03:56 jojoa1997|Tablet I'm confised 03:57 kaeza in the forums 03:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah 03:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Bit my tab Ida's being a pain in my *** right now 03:57 telek Erg 03:57 jojoa1997|Tablet 3 minutes 03:58 kaeza gawd, I leave for five minutes and there are 10 posts by you in there... 04:00 jojoa1997|Tablet Sorry had some unmade comments and dewcoded I wanted to do something special 04:00 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80641#p80641 at exactly midnight 04:01 telek Hrmm. 04:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Eh kaeza they were all in desperate topics 04:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Seperayte 04:02 kaeza ... 04:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Seperate 04:02 kaeza sepArate* 04:03 telek How is PilzAdam's boat supposed to be used? 04:04 jordan4ibanez you have to eat it 04:04 telek Nevermind it was either lag or client/server bugs. 04:04 jojoa1997|Tablet In what? 04:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordan 04:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Make skeletons and cows 04:05 jordan4ibanez math.sqrt(-1) am tired 04:05 jojoa1997|Tablet And maybe super non hostile creeperw 04:05 jojoa1997|Tablet I mean later on 04:06 jordan4ibanez I'm too tired to decypher wether or not people were kidding http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80578#p80578 04:06 telek That boat is pretty neat. 04:06 telek Is it possible to make larger ships and such yet, or is it only possible to bind one player to one object? 04:07 VanessaE can't one attach several entities together - one to another, in a chain to make a larger object? 04:08 telek Kinda like the human centipede? :D 04:09 telek Really need something kinda like the ship mod for morrowind. 04:09 telek Or nodes that can move independently of the 'static' world. 04:09 kaeza coming soon: Test Airlines 04:09 telek Jetpacks! :D 04:10 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza firearms 04:10 telek Only they're single use :D 04:10 telek Jetpacks by Kaeza Firearms :D 04:10 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, wut 04:10 jojoa1997|Tablet Add laser guns and bamboo dart guns made feo. Papyrus 04:10 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, realism pls 04:10 telek Make you have to carry both a jetpack and a parachute. 04:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Uh dart guns real 04:11 telek The latter for when the former stops functioning midair :D 04:11 telek Is it possible to make objects collidable? 04:12 telek IE so when you walk onto the raft you don't sink into the node under it? 04:12 kaeza IIRC there's entity<->entity collision already 04:13 telek Do you have to enable it? 04:13 telek Or is the raft just not considered an entity for collision purposes? 04:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Hoping to bed cya 04:13 Exio oh god, coursera doesn't respond my pigs 04:13 Exio it is overloaded 04:13 Exio or what the hell :( 04:13 telek =p Have a good night. 04:53 Exio night! 04:55 telek Night Exio! 05:27 kaeza congratulations on your second post hmmmm :P 05:28 us_0gb Ha ha, yeah. I saw that. 05:30 us_0gb I guess forums arent' the right medium for everyone. 05:31 us_0gb By "right medium", I mean "medium of choice". My bad. 05:32 hmmmm yay 05:32 hmmmm thanks 05:33 us_0gb That lighting error looks pretty cool. 05:33 hmmmm hrmmmm... i wish i knew how i did it 05:33 us_0gb Ha ha, nice. 05:34 hmmmm anyway if you think that's cool, wait 'till you see what will be possible with a patch i'll work on for the oregen after the feature freeze is over 05:35 telek Oh yeah 05:35 us_0gb I hope it's not to "fix" the even distribution. I like the even distribution. 05:35 hmmmm it's really simple, instead of taking a single string as the name of the node to place as ore, i'd take in a node structure, where you can also specify param1 and param2 05:35 telek Is it just me or is the enhanced_inventory mod or whatever it's called missing a back button from the craft menu? 05:35 us_0gb Oh, nice! 05:36 VanessaE you mean unified inventory? 05:36 VanessaE or inventory plus? 05:36 hmmmm proller needs it so he can make liquid springs with finite liquid enabled, but you can make stars with it too by placing air ore with param1 = 0xFF 05:36 us_0gb If you are using a modern copy of inventory_plus, no back button is needed on the craft page. 05:37 hmmmm in theory it should give off about the same effect as is in that screenshot 05:37 us_0gb Stars, that would be interesting. 05:37 hmmmm i also have another ridiculous idea that's actually just a simplified version of an old idea that was rejected, i won't mention what it is though 05:38 hmmmm well, i'll mention that my goal with it is to get minetest a bit more colorful 05:38 us_0gb Okay, I won't pry. 05:38 VanessaE oh, that. 05:39 hmmmm nope 05:39 hmmmm not colorlike 05:39 us_0gb hmmmm is adding VanessaE's flowers, as they are colorful. 05:39 VanessaE yeah, right 05:39 hmmmm yeah we really do need plants in minetest, that should be put in 05:40 VanessaE and I'm rewriting plants_lib into C++ 05:40 VanessaE sure. 05:40 VanessaE April 1 was over 1:40 ago on US east coast. :) 05:40 hmmmm when i was making the minecraft classic -> minetest map converter, i was missing nodes for the red/white flowers and the red/brown mushrooms 05:40 hmmmm and then at that point i realized 05:41 us_0gb We also need a ray to make grass/jungle grass/dry shrubs renewable. 05:41 VanessaE I'd love to see flowers added to the default game, but they depend pretty heavily on plants_lib (ditto for renewable grasses/shrubs) 05:42 VanessaE s/the default game/minetest \"common\"/ 05:42 us_0gb Yeah, common is what I care about. Not the four games. 05:43 Sketch2 hmm, well that kinda sux. the whole compiling minetest into a web app is being shot down by the devs that make the porting engine 05:43 VanessaE keep trying anyway 05:43 us_0gb Why make it into a web application anyway? I'm not against the idea, I just don't see it as useful. 05:43 Sketch2 they say it'd need to be written with websockets, and it's buggy when you use multiple libraries 05:44 Sketch2 so my kid can play it on my old ViewSonic Gtablet 05:45 telek Can having too many mods installed cause issues with blocks being picked up/dropped? 05:45 VanessaE telek: not usually. 05:45 Sketch2 Android users could get in on the action 05:45 mauvebic alot of people here need a dozen gigs to run minetest on an ordinary computer lol 05:45 telek Also are particle effects always on? 05:45 mauvebic cant imagine on an old tablet 05:45 telek Or does that mean I have an errant mod doing particle effects outside the togglable particle effects? 05:45 Sketch2 well yeah, it would cut down on worrying about who needs to install what 05:46 VanessaE telek: unless one of those mods is deliberately changing how pick-up/drop works. 05:46 Sketch2 you just open your browser and run it. no install, no thinking. an 8 year old could do it 05:46 telek mauvebic: It's running on less than 384 on one of my comps, with a 128 meg gfx card, so that seems unlikely unless you're hogging it out with texturepacks. 05:46 mauvebic i get by on 3 lol 05:46 telek Also compile it with uhmm 05:46 telek Enscripten and might not need to alter much at all. 05:47 telek mauvebic: 3 megs? 05:47 mauvebic kb 05:47 Sketch2 well the Gtablet had some pretty kick-ass stats for it's time 05:47 mauvebic got one of those brown and beige screens too 05:47 Sketch2 so it'd certainly run it 05:47 mauvebic 3 gigs 05:47 * telek snickers. 05:48 mauvebic actually did have a computer like that when i was kid lol 05:48 mauvebic commander keen, the old duke nukem, and some rabbit trying to deliver pizzas 05:48 VanessaE rabbit..pizza... "Avoid the Noid"? 05:49 Sketch2 hells yea, Jill of the Jungle, Kings Quest, Police Quest 05:49 mauvebic ahh jesus and i kept thinking it was jazz jackrabbit, but thats a completely different game 05:49 Sketch2 oh yeah, that's a good one too 05:49 telek Hehehe 05:50 mauvebic what passed for a laptop back then was bigger than the new towers for sale today lol 05:50 ruskie hehe 05:50 mauvebic can you imagine, people going to jail in the 80s, coming out with those big-ass cellphones today lol 05:51 mauvebic cant even pawn that shit 05:52 Sketch2 by old, it comes with Android 2.2 - http://www1.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm 05:53 mauvebic ugh, android lol when my contract is up (9 months) im going back to dumbphones at half the price 05:53 Sketch2 yeah, I hate cell phones all together 05:53 ruskie hehe 05:53 ruskie I'll be getting the new nokia dumbphone that lasts 35 days in standby on a single charge 05:53 mauvebic once you get over the initial thrill of installing website wrapper-gui's on your phone, android is more annoying than anything else 05:53 kaeza do diamonds spawn in the default game now? if so... at what depth? 05:54 VanessaE yes, but no idea where 05:54 ruskie mauvebic, well my main issue with droids is the link to google siphoning the data 05:55 mauvebic i flashed with cyanogen 05:55 ruskie it still links to google services doesn't it? 05:55 kaeza -128 I see 05:55 us_0gb Yeah, and I'm betting if you go down to -1024, you'll find everything including diamonds. 05:55 mauvebic any provider will try to put crap all over your phone 05:55 ruskie well I don't buy phones on contract anyway 05:55 ruskie but until my nokia n900 runs I'll be happy 05:55 mauvebic the real kick in the nuts: reading about features in the manual that your provider has disabled 05:55 * us_0gb prefers land lines 05:56 ruskie the 35day nokia will be as a second phone and backup phone 05:56 mauvebic all i know is my dumbphone cost on average 20~25/mo, droids always 60 and + 05:56 mauvebic and the batteries dont last 05:57 mauvebic whats the point of a phone as a distraction if it doesn't distract for long and cant take calls after lol 05:57 Sketch2 only 300 more minutes 'till the YouTube clip is alive :D 05:57 * ruskie pays 7eur for basic call/sms service(50minutes of calls to all mobile networks) and an extra 9 eur for 300mb data service(with no extra charges if going over 05:58 ruskie and I always buy my devices contract free 05:58 mauvebic well they recently passed a law here capping cancellation fees at around 4$/mo 05:58 mauvebic thankfully even if i split now it would cost much more than your average 1-mo bill 05:59 mauvebic *would not 05:59 mauvebic but yeah, when the provider has you by the balls, they can change all the terms and youre stuck with em 06:00 ruskie not here 06:00 ruskie they can change the terms here but you then have 30 days to cancel the contract no penalties 06:00 ruskie of course I'm not on a n-month contract anyway 06:00 mauvebic they tried to charge me 700$ cancellation for a 100$ phone 06:00 ruskie so don't really care 06:00 mauvebic so far as i know, 4 years later, they still havent collected lol 06:01 ruskie ahh if you want to keep the phone then you need to pay the difference until end of term 06:01 mauvebic i offered to buy the phone outright but they wanted me to pay 700 06:01 mauvebic so i laughed all the way to the competition 06:02 mauvebic and bought their phone upfront 06:03 mauvebic i mean, when you know they cant possibly justify the amount in court, theres not much they can do 06:28 mauvebic huh 3 SVU episodes i missed 06:29 us_0gb "SVU"? 06:29 mauvebic law and order :p 06:29 mauvebic funny show, they always secure more confessions than there are perpetrators 06:30 us_0gb Ah, the court/investigation show. 06:30 VanessaE Special Victims Unit. 06:30 mauvebic this one has less court though 06:30 mauvebic and its not so much split into halfs 06:30 mauvebic i loved CI, the seasons with d'onofrio anyways 06:30 mauvebic the other guy was just weird 06:30 mauvebic more used to seeing him in a comedic role 06:31 mauvebic like robin williams trying to do drama or david duchovny trying to be taken seriously after porn lol 06:31 * us_0gb is too busy watching an upload in Terminal to watch television. Terminal is more interesting. 06:31 mauvebic do both :p 06:32 mauvebic some people think im nuts, i can watch stuff on VLC, the news on freetuxtv, and still concentrate on a few tabs and gedit lol 06:32 VanessaE I gave up watching regular tv years ago. nothing but bullshit anymore. 06:32 mauvebic i didn't say cable tv :p 06:33 mauvebic and youre right it sucks 06:33 mauvebic 90% is crap so why pay for it 06:33 mauvebic throw in loud commercials, and having to arrange your schedule around your favorite shows... 06:33 mauvebic still, i like stories, good stories 06:33 us_0gb Yeah. Cable is nowhere near as interesting as Terminal. 06:33 VanessaE mauvebic: I didn't say cable tv either :) 06:33 us_0gb 2013-03-08.txt 34% 128MB 540.6KB/s 07:43 ETA 06:34 us_0gb The exitement! 06:34 Jordach morning us_0gb, VanessaE and mauvebic 06:34 mauvebic lately when i go on imdb i tend to look at the older stuff first lol 06:34 VanessaE morning Jordach 06:34 mauvebic good afternoon, captain Peacock 06:34 us_0gb Morning, Jordach. 06:34 Jordach VanessaE, 07:34 here 06:34 * mauvebic is tired :p 06:34 VanessaE 2:34 here. 06:34 mauvebic 2:33 06:34 * Jordach is up too early, jordach should get up around 11AM 06:34 * us_0gb is tired too, but has no time to sleep tonight 06:34 mauvebic but i was off today, rent lady came while i was in a state of undress, 06:35 mauvebic i thought it was sunday lol 06:35 Jordach mauvebic, reminds me of those B grade films 06:35 mauvebic us north americans seem to keep euro/india time lol 06:35 us_0gb It IS Sunday. 06:35 mauvebic no, yesterday was monday, its now tuesday 2:34am EST 06:35 * Jordach is pretty sure it is Tue, 02 Apr 7:35 06:36 us_0gb I'm in PST. Still Sunday for me. 06:36 IceCraft 8:36 06:36 mauvebic i kept reading all these april 1st jokes and it still didn't click what day it was lol i thought i was getting robbed or somewhat lol 06:36 IceCraft Btw. Good morning 06:37 mauvebic and the euro users seem to be on during the day in EST lol 06:37 mauvebic night for them i guess 06:37 mauvebic we all insomniacs? 06:38 us_0gb Hmm. I'm going to go down to the store at 23:37. See you when I get back. 06:38 mauvebic they stop selling beer at 23h here 06:39 us_0gb I don't drink. I just want potato rounds. 06:39 VanessaE I could go for a can of cheesy pringles right about now. 06:39 mauvebic re drinking - im scott and french lol 06:39 Jordach VanessaE, now I want pringles 06:40 us_0gb More potato product that sound good. 06:40 mauvebic ugh, cant digest chips 06:40 * us_0gb can't digest corn 06:40 mauvebic no longer very fond of sweets either :/ 06:41 mauvebic used to love that stuff 06:42 mauvebic heck, who here eats 3 squares a day? 06:43 us_0gb If you're going to eat 3, triangles are better. 06:43 mauvebic square meals :P im usually only hungry for 1 06:43 Jordach I am now considering eating a bag of crisps 06:45 Jordach hmm, lets see what a 3DS model files loads like in Blender 06:46 mauvebic usually have to zoom out :P 06:46 us_0gb Okay, I'm off on my midnight trip. I'll be back soon. 06:46 mauvebic and they dont all import correctly at my end 06:46 Jordach \O/ 450MB to render 06:46 Jordach mauvebic, http://en.wikipedia.org/Nintendo_3DS 06:47 Jordach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS * 06:47 mauvebic cant eat that 06:47 mauvebic well i could but it would prolly taste like my aunts' cooking 06:48 mauvebic but what are you rendering? a mesh of the 3ds or? 06:48 Jordach mauvebic, i ripped a 3DS E-Shop game 06:48 Jordach and is dissecting the model format 06:48 IceCraft :O 06:49 mauvebic dont brag if you ever use it here tho :P 06:49 Jordach I am having to use 450+MB in render memory 06:50 mauvebic but heck, most of the star trek stuff the fans or the producers posted themselves 06:50 mauvebic the ship models are considered old by today's standards 06:51 Jordach heh 06:52 Jordach anyways, im going to convert these "3d" models into a more minetest happy format 06:52 mauvebic obj? 06:52 Jordach .x 06:53 mauvebic forgot blender did that too 06:58 Jordach lol 07:00 Jordach anyways, working on a new kind of player mesh: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-020413-080039.php 07:02 Jordach instead of generating a MC like model, mines got more bones 07:12 Sketch2 ah, good stuff 07:18 mauvebic i think we got a holy (language) war lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80653#p80653 07:18 Jordach GOOGLE! https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/ 07:20 mauvebic ugh, prolly handy on the subway 07:20 mauvebic alot of april fools jokes sucked tho this year 07:20 mauvebic including most of the slashdot ones lol 07:50 Jordach right, finally ordered my 2GB ram sticks 07:50 Jordach Upgrading my 1GB tower to 2GB 07:56 celeron55 telek: you should complain to hmmmm about the modified jthread not being renamed 08:31 Jordach hello MinetestBot 08:31 MinetestBot Hey Jordach 08:33 us_0gb Are you actually a robot? 10:16 Infinity_69 hi 10:17 Infinity_69 Whatever you got it just ain't enough... 10:18 Infinity_69 If you ain't got love... 10:18 Infinity_69 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAMYIKfIVSQ 10:18 Infinity_69 Bon Jovi - What do you got? 10:18 Infinity_69 :) 10:26 Jordach Infinity_69, https://soundcloud.com/audio-warfare/free-download-audio-warfare-dr 10:27 Sketch2 What I got you gotta get it, put it in you - RHCP 10:28 Infinity_69 jordach, what is ur py lvl? 10:28 Jordach er what 10:29 Infinity_69 how good u @ python 10:29 Infinity_69 xD 10:29 Jordach alright 10:29 Infinity_69 i need to know how to make cobalt.py read a txt file from a website... 10:29 Infinity_69 without lxml 10:30 Infinity_69 Jordach, ♥ 10:30 Infinity_69 xD 10:31 Infinity_69 ▀ 10:31 Jordach Infinity_69, use import socket 10:31 Infinity_69 ☻ ☺ 10:31 Infinity_69 ok 10:31 Jordach socket is your friend when using internet stuff 10:31 Infinity_69 and then what? 10:31 Jordach Infinity_69, i'd probably wget the data 10:31 Infinity_69 ok :) 10:31 Infinity_69 wait, doesnt that download it? 10:31 Infinity_69 o.O 10:32 Infinity_69 i just need it to read it, not download a 0.???kb text file -.- 10:32 Infinity_69 xd 10:32 kaeza Infinity_69, ProTip: by "reading" you are downloading :) 10:32 Infinity_69 o.O 10:32 Infinity_69 ok, ill wget 10:33 Infinity_69 what line... 10:33 Infinity_69 new = wget(???) 10:33 Jordach wget is Bash 10:33 kaeza just wget the data and output to stdout, and read from a pipe 10:33 Infinity_69 O.O 10:33 Jordach if i only wanted the data once, i'd just do what kaeza says 10:33 * Infinity_69 's brain froze 10:34 Infinity_69 k kaeza, ill pm u 10:34 kaeza lol nope 10:34 Infinity_69 :o 10:34 Infinity_69 why not?! 10:35 mauvebic hm, im seeing bugs that aren't there - goodnight folks :p 10:37 Infinity_69 !g pipes in python 10:37 Infinity_69 oh, come on MinetestBot! 10:37 Infinity_69 i hate that guy 10:37 Infinity_69 y u not on?! 10:38 markveidemanis Hiii 10:43 Jordach hey markveidemanis 10:43 markveidemanis Can you edit me a mod? 10:43 Jordach hmm? 10:43 markveidemanis Stationary_npc mod 10:43 Jordach trader in MOBF is the same 10:44 markveidemanis I posted the request in mod requests 10:44 markveidemanis I was wondering if you could make it a command change wether or not npc stare at you 10:46 markveidemanis Also, when they are lying down, they lie in the middle of 1 block 10:46 markveidemanis so you cant make them go in a bed 10:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:47 kaeza hey Adam 11:10 Sketch2 NEWS: well, a good couple hours of rendering, and 10 hrs of uploading this 4.5 gig YouTube clip. 720p - 20 min - Minetest Gource vid, as requested. Enjoy if you will. 11:10 Sketch2 http://youtu.be/eL9NGUD9Tl8 11:11 Sketch2 oh wtf, they dropped it down to 480?? grr 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet what is that about 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet dont have time to watch 11:13 Sketch2 some kinda visualization that shows development branching as animated glowing dots 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet oh cool 11:14 jojoa1997|Tablet is this a program? 11:14 jojoa1997|Tablet that i could download 11:14 Sketch2 seems kinda screen-saver-ish. ought'a have music with it 11:14 jojoa1997|Tablet is it a program? 11:14 Sketch2 search for Gource. it's open source google code 11:16 Sketch2 it runs decent after you compile it, but takes a long time to render a full vid 11:18 PilzAdam Sketch2, nice 11:18 jojoa1997_Tablet does it include minetest_game 11:18 jojoa1997_Tablet pilzadam please make a build https://code.google.com/p/gource/ 11:18 PilzAdam no, I dont click google links 11:22 Sketch2 I can build it for you. are you using something like Debian? 11:24 Sketch2 jojoa1997|Tablet, what OS? 11:24 jojoa1997|Tablet Window 7 11:26 jojoa1997|Tablet Do you hace to type all the info in there 11:29 Sketch2 info for what? 11:29 Sketch2 oh dates, and people? no it pulls those from the commit comments 11:31 Sketch2 here' this looks like a proper Win build - http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Other-Programming-Files/Gource.shtml 11:31 Sketch2 eh, he's not around :P 11:46 celeron55 Sketch2: lol, that is relatively epic 11:49 Sketch2 ty. trying to figure out how to get CodeLite to do distributed compiling now 11:50 Sketch2 figured out how to set up minetest in there which is nice 11:51 Sketch2 Workspace > New Project > Template > Others > Custom Makefile 11:52 celeron55 it looks quite funky when the project layout was changed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL9NGUD9Tl8&feature=player_detailpage#t=552s 11:53 celeron55 the mod structure was added there 8) 11:54 Sketch2 yeah, there's a moment after that where things really bloom 11:57 celeron55 i don't like it how it skips inactivity though 11:57 PilzAdam Jeija made one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dICF9Zs_Ic 11:57 celeron55 it would be nice to see the codebase at rest when it was 11:58 Sketch2 oh, maybe there's a setting for that. dunno, I just ran it at it's default, tho I sped it up 3x and put the Minetest icon in. 11:59 Jordach minetest is busier than we realise 12:00 artur99 hi... Im trying to make my server... 12:00 artur99 can you test if this adress works> 192.168.2.103 12:00 artur99 port 30000 12:01 celeron55 that's your LAN address 12:01 celeron55 if you have port forwarding correctly set up, you might want to try 213.233.92.96 12:01 celeron55 !up 213.233.92.96 12:01 artur99 yes, i know, but i set it on port forwarding 12:02 celeron55 hmm, apparently there is no bot for those anymore 8) 12:05 artur99 and that ip cant be used as a minetest address? 12:06 Jordach sfan5|OFF, get your fucking bot online 12:07 artur99 what type of bot? 12:07 Sketch2 I'll try it. was trying to get this distributed compiler to go, but it's just giving me hell 12:08 Jordach MinetestBot 12:08 PilzAdam artur99, doesnt seem to work 12:08 artur99 k, thanks for trying 12:08 kaeza Jordach, http://youtu.be/a9nh1KvBU-s 12:09 artur99 i did this: http://artur99.hostyd.com/forw.png and i startad minetestserver.bat... why dosent working? 12:09 Jordach kaeza, its a craptop 12:09 Jordach minetestserver.bat is ancient 12:10 kaeza hah 12:10 Jordach kaeza, now we need some snapple piepads 12:10 artur99 minetestserver.bat has: "minetest.exe --server --worldname WORLDNAME" 12:10 Jordach artur99, youre missing game id 12:10 artur99 and the world WORLDNAME do exists 12:11 Jordach kaeza, s/snapple/fapple 12:11 artur99 and what that should be? 12:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Is there an android build for gource 12:11 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, it would even run 12:11 Jordach it requires PUREL OGL, and NOT OGLES 12:11 Jordach -L 12:11 Sketch2 oh, no clu jojo, but I found a compiled Win one 12:12 Sketch2 http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Other-Programming-Files/Gource.shtml 12:13 artur99 should i change the forwarding's private ip 12:13 artur99 ? 12:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Thanks 12:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Would a compiled Linux gamer work on android 12:14 kaeza thexyz should make the search bar bigger http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80683#p80683 12:16 Sketch2 jojoa, there's a way to change C++ into bitcode with LLVM, then port it to JavaScript with enscripten, so theoretically you could run it in a modern browser on Adroid 12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet thexyz: Please make it where we can delete polls 12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet Sketch you up to the challenge 12:18 Sketch2 but the enscripten devs tell me it's gonna be tough 12:18 Sketch2 they say that linking multiple libraries doesn't work so well with JavaScript 12:19 Sketch2 and the way that it interfaces with the net would need to use cross-platform code 12:21 Sketch2 rewrite with websockets is what they said 12:35 rubenwardy hi all 12:41 kaeza hai ruben 13:08 kaeza right-clicked one of the computers with grass in hand: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...c/minetest/bin/../games/common/mods/default/init.lua:2203: attempt to index local 'ret' (a nil value) 13:10 kaeza looks like a bug with on_rightclick again :( 13:11 PilzAdam can you add "or itemstack" to builtin/item.lua:247 ? 13:11 PilzAdam (at the end of the line) 13:11 PilzAdam this should fix it 13:13 kaeza lemme see 13:15 kaeza builtin/item.lua:247 says "return itemstack" 13:16 PilzAdam do you have latest minetest version? 13:16 kaeza I believe so, but lemme check 13:17 PilzAdam just tested it myself, it works 13:18 kaeza yes that seems to fix it 13:18 kaeza thanks 13:19 thexyz kaeza: wut 13:19 kaeza hm? 13:19 thexyz what search bar are you talking about? 13:20 kaeza thexyz, just kidding. I meant about a question asked like 12649864 times. 13:20 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Return an ItemStack in minetest.item_place() if nodes' on rightclick doesnt return it 9ff8012655 2013-04-02T06:19:02-07:00 http://git.io/JpaPow 13:20 PilzAdam kaeza, thx for reporting the bug 13:20 kaeza PilzAdam, np. 13:21 kaeza I was just trying to cover a computer in grass :D 13:21 PilzAdam tip: hold shift 13:22 kaeza hm? 13:22 kaeza ah! 13:23 kaeza it ignores on_rightclick 13:23 kaeza that's a handy feature 13:24 rarkenin That's client-side? 13:24 PilzAdam rarkenin, partly 13:24 webdesigner97 hi 13:25 rarkenin OK. So it is reported to the server as well with the key being down, and the server may then run a different set of actions? 13:25 PilzAdam rarkenin, for formspecs that are opened by the engine its client side, but for the on_rightclick() of wich are called in Lua its sever side (obviously) 13:25 rarkenin OK, 13:25 PilzAdam +nodes 13:26 PilzAdam it uses the regular minetest.env:get_player_control() for that 13:27 kaeza hey webdesigner 13:27 rarkenin OK. 13:29 webdesigner97 ah, now I found out why "sunlight_propagates = false" didn't work! I had "paramtype = 'light'"...... I wanted to ask you, but now I found out :D 13:32 webdesigner97 hmm.... which key is meant with "aux1"? 13:32 PilzAdam E 13:33 webdesigner97 oh....... and why is it calles like that :D 13:33 webdesigner97 *called 13:33 PilzAdam because its an auxiliary key 13:33 webdesigner97 aha 13:34 PilzAdam for fast walk and for descend ladders with aux1_descend = true 13:34 webdesigner97 ok. After checking the translation for "auxiliary" it's clear ;) 13:35 webdesigner97 bye. maybe bbl 13:39 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=53010#p53010 14:06 webdesigner97 hi again 14:06 webdesigner97 one question: which kinds of 3d models can I load as mesh for an entity? 14:07 webdesigner97 for example, the boats mod loads "boat.x" 14:09 PilzAdam b3d is also known to work 14:09 webdesigner97 the problem is that I'm not good at blender :D 14:10 webdesigner97 the wikipedia article about Irrlicht also mentions .dae 14:10 webdesigner97 but it doesn't seem to work :D 14:13 webdesigner97 what format is *.x? 14:15 Exio directx, iirc 14:16 webdesigner97 ah 14:16 webdesigner97 .obj does work :D 14:17 webdesigner97 exio, thx 14:56 Traxie21 Herro 14:56 Traxie21 Does anyone know how to use an either-or system for privs? 14:57 Traxie21 Eg if you have this priv, or this priv, you can use the command 15:02 kaeza Traxie21, minetest.check_player_privs("foo", {priv1=true}) or minetest.check_player_privs("foo", {priv2=true}) ? 15:02 Traxie21 Well that would work 15:02 Traxie21 But I want to do it in the priv field of a command 15:03 webdesigner97 hi again 15:03 Traxie21 hi 15:04 Traxie21 privs = {se_admin = true}, 15:04 webdesigner97 what does "physical = true" do in minetest.register_entity()? 15:04 kaeza Traxie21, just don't set any privs in the cmd's priv field 15:04 Traxie21 Can It allow se_admin or se_owner? 15:04 kaeza and use the check in func() 15:04 webdesigner97 hi calinou 15:04 Traxie21 kaeza, I don't want to redo every single command that I'm doing that for 15:04 kaeza Traxie21, that's what functions are for 15:05 Traxie21 sheet 15:05 kaeza function se_check_privs(player,privs) 15:05 kaeza and iterate thru all keys of 'privs' and check each one in turn 15:05 * Traxie21 gulps 15:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Is there an upload site for tablets 15:12 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, no 15:12 Calinou sell your tablet, build a PC instead 15:12 Jordach although your best bet ir Dropbox 15:12 Jordach is* 15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Is there a bypass 15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Maybe I can place file outside internal storage 15:15 Calinou root your tablet 15:15 Calinou then upload your xorg.conf 15:16 Exio lol Calinou 15:21 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80739#p80739 15:21 PilzAdam :-) 15:22 jojoa1997_Tablet what happens if i root my tablet 15:22 kaeza PilzAdam, OMG 15:23 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: neat, could the camera be moved for 2nd/3rd person? 15:23 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, that would require a lot more work 15:24 ShadowNinja well yes, but doable, do you plan on getting this merged? 15:24 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam merge it 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet does it load the player's entity 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet cause you might be able to make 3rd person view 15:26 PilzAdam ehm 15:26 PilzAdam are you serious? 15:27 PilzAdam you really want this to merged as is? 15:27 PilzAdam +be 15:28 jojoa1997_Tablet yes and curse you bad school connection 15:28 Exio seems awesome PilzAdam 15:29 jojoa1997_Tablet i have the best connection but it continueasly drops oon and off 15:29 jojoa1997_Tablet and what would you do to make it better 15:30 jojoa1997_Tablet STOP 15:31 ShadowNinja lol, my screen is half full of your joins and parts in -dev 15:31 Calinou http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/4/41/Tintglass.png < tinted glass from minecraft 2.0 kinda looks like colored steel blocks :P 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet i am so sorry 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant help the connection 15:32 PilzAdam just stop joinging -dev 15:32 jojoa1997|Tablet k 15:33 * Calinou finished downloading UrT 4.2 15:33 Calinou hmm nevermind 15:33 Calinou there are more files to do 15:33 Calinou silly progress bar 15:33 ShadowNinja Calinou: yep, has that been released/is comming up? 15:33 Calinou ShadowNinja: since a few months ago it's up as "beta", but there are quite a lot of players on it already 15:33 Calinou very few features have been added... 4.1 was released december 2007 15:34 Calinou new animations, hitscan weapon unlag, new maps 15:34 Calinou some balance changes, 1 or 2 new weapons 15:34 ironzorg 4.2 is not UrT HD, which will bring new features 15:34 ShadowNinja yea, MC doesn't have out dev team 15:34 Calinou lol, UrT "HD" looks like shit 15:34 ShadowNinja our* 15:34 ironzorg it's an entire new game 15:35 Calinou the game looks exactly the same visually, it is just a different art style 15:35 Calinou UrT was 1990s style, UrT HD will be 1995s style :P 15:35 Calinou they should've used tesseract + nice, high-res models/textures/sounds instead 15:35 ironzorg it's a different engine, they have to redo everything, it's going to take time 15:36 Calinou yes, but there is no improvement 15:36 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80739#p80739 + being able to walk in the walls + more movement + guns 15:36 Exio Calinou gets what I want 15:36 Calinou and there's even regressions: UrT was opencore, UrT HD will be fully proprietary, for visually no upsides 15:37 Calinou Exio: walk in the walls... causes a black screen right now 15:37 Calinou :p 15:37 Exio haha 15:37 Calinou +1 for ability to see your legs anyway, red eclipse devs added that recently too :P 15:37 Exio well, on, or left to whatever :P 15:37 Calinou walljumps would be nice 15:37 Exio yep 15:37 Calinou 3 per jump, cannot walljump on glass or leaves 15:37 Calinou would be balanced enough 15:42 webdesigner97 hehe: what could that be? I hope to implement it in the next version of my StreetsMod: http://im.bilderkiste.org/8136491734631/ 15:44 webdesigner97 hi jojoa! 15:44 webdesigner97 Give it a try: 15:44 webdesigner97 hehe: what could that be? I hope to implement it in the next version of my StreetsMod: http://im.bilderkiste.org/8136491734631/ 15:56 * Calinou finished downloading UrT 4.2 for real and is playing 15:57 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/shot0000.jpg 16:02 ironzorg Calinou: jump much ? 16:02 ironzorg my server should be running darkjumps atm :) 16:27 jordan4ibanez pilzadam 16:27 jordan4ibanez is there a build of that improved first person? 16:27 jordan4ibanez OH GOD ITS SO AWESOME 16:27 PilzAdam I can make one 16:27 PilzAdam (in 10 minutes or so) 16:28 jordan4ibanez okay :D 16:28 jordan4ibanez \ 16:36 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, http://ompldr.org/vaHl0aw/minetest-0.4.5-0770b3e-player_model-win32.zip 16:37 jordan4ibanez I think I'll make a funny video with this 16:37 jordan4ibanez thank you 16:37 PilzAdam seems like the offset isnt correct in the win build... 16:39 jordan4ibanez my body is a little jittery XD 16:39 jordan4ibanez pilzadam, I have some delicious sounds for you to include into the game 16:41 PilzAdam cool 16:46 jordan4ibanez well if I can freakin find them 16:46 jordan4ibanez thefawk, i installed ubuntu into windows with the windows installer, but where do the files actually get installed to? O.o 16:49 telek jordan: I would assume a .img file somewhere. Probably under Program Files/Ubuntu or something? 16:51 jordan4ibanez yeah I think I found it 16:52 jordan4ibanez .fuse_hidden0000000400000001? 730 mb 17:05 jordan4ibanez something that could be added to sounds, random pitch 17:08 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/l9lzl54ejrxygod/soundpack.tar.gz?token_hash=AAGYwNoXjeZuaw3LpIZkH1lHm6mkBCZAG4xn52C6Xu_bmw&dl=1 17:09 jordan4ibanez now keep in mind pilzadam, these are a WIP, I might make wool into grass, and make a more puff sound for wool 17:09 jordan4ibanez wood, dirt, stone, and sand aren't finished at all 17:09 PilzAdam who made this sounds? 17:09 jordan4ibanez me 17:09 PilzAdam license? 17:10 jordan4ibanez N/A xD 17:10 PilzAdam Ill look into it 17:11 jordan4ibanez which is fttp 17:12 rubenwardy1 0.4.6 already? !!!! 17:13 jordan4ibanez I thought it was 0.6 :O 17:16 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, are these sounds all footsteps? 17:16 jordan4ibanez they're whatever you want them to be 17:16 jordan4ibanez xD 17:20 jordan4ibanez I noticed I can fit them all into every class at different gain levels and my brain couldn't really tell the difference, and I put a soundspec file in there 17:31 jordan4ibanez I accidentally made a sound that sounds identical to the old dirt sound in minecraft :o 17:33 hmmmm http://www.geek.com/mobile/blackberry-10-tells-your-friends-when-youre-watching-porn-1550718/ 17:33 jordan4ibanez https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/dirt-1 17:33 hmmmm i like the minecraft sounds :( if there's not already one, i plan on making a minecraft soundpack 17:34 Jordach Naked, /nick NakedFury 17:51 STHGOM hi the family grog 66 17:52 Jordach STHGOM, try tab 17:54 thefamilygrog66 hey folks 17:55 kaeza hey grog 17:56 thefamilygrog66 did you try out the new beds yet, kaeza? 17:57 Traxie21 Per-player toggleable creative mode :D http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80793#p80793 17:58 thefamilygrog66 toggleable by the player themself, or by the owner/admin? 17:58 thefamilygrog66 I like that word, toggleable 17:59 Traxie21 toggleable by the player themself, if they have se_creative 17:59 Traxie21 priv 17:59 thefamilygrog66 cool 17:59 Traxie21 I will do it from admins in a bit 18:00 kaeza thefamilygrog66, I like the new colored beds; they give more diverse decoration 18:01 thefamilygrog66 right on, kaeza, thanks - PilzAdam has now merged them into his beds mod 18:02 Jordach PilzAdam, NICE 18:02 jordan4ibanez yay! now we can remove the create mode button and move it into world options or something 18:03 thefamilygrog66 I think I might work on a small mod for couches/loveseats - I like the armchair from homedecor/3dforniture, but I'd like more variety in the living room 18:03 mauvebic my wife makes furniture out of the various shapes of nodes like the ones found in morestairs 18:04 thefamilygrog66 I've done a bit of that as well, mauvebic 18:04 mauvebic nodeboxes are only useful for furniture <= 1m cube 18:05 mauvebic and even then its hard to balance the height difference between a simple seat and a small table lol 18:05 Traxie21 jordan4ibanez, It has some trouble if you join the world already in creative mode, but it almost works 18:05 jordan4ibanez use on join player 18:05 mauvebic random odd behaviour: in an area with 2m clearing, placing a pipe on the ground, one can climb 'onto' the pipe, sortof, but you can't climb down without free move 18:06 jordan4ibanez on leave player, or on server close, save all player's setting 18:07 jordan4ibanez make a server default for creative of survival 18:07 jordan4ibanez if a player's mode doesn't exist, set it to default 18:07 thefamilygrog66 mauvebic: the beds are 2 nodes long - can do the same sort of thing with couches, I figure 18:08 thefamilygrog66 even 3 nodes 18:09 mauvebic do beds have some sort of use though? i thought i remembered seeing a video in MC where players go to bed and morning comes faster? unless they were just screwing with time settings 18:10 kaeza yes they do 18:10 thefamilygrog66 yes, if all the players are in bed, then morning cmoes 18:10 thefamilygrog66 *comes 18:11 jordan4ibanez I was thinking of doing a series again called Simply Minetest where I start off with vanilla minetest, and add a mod every 5 episodes 18:11 mauvebic thats kindof odd, i suppose it works better when youre all alone 18:11 thefamilygrog66 less organizing for sure, mauvebic! 18:11 kaeza they also set your spawn point 18:11 thefamilygrog66 yes 18:11 thefamilygrog66 "okay, everyone get to bed" 18:11 mauvebic i gotta fix for that, if my map has a 'spawn' bookmark, all players spawn there 18:12 mauvebic also makes it easy to change ingame 18:12 thefamilygrog66 do you mean spawn when they log in, or respawn after dieing? 18:12 mauvebic i have yet to hook bookmarks to those detailed transporter pad nodeboxes i made 18:12 mauvebic on joinplayer 18:13 thefamilygrog66 the beds are for when players die 18:13 thefamilygrog66 they'll respawn where they last slept, essentially 18:13 mauvebic weird, dieplayer should take you to hospital bed, not home :p 18:13 kaeza hah! we need white beds for that :P 18:14 mauvebic i guess where the logic fails is that if youre too lazy to walk back home you can just kill yourself and wind up back there 18:14 mauvebic depending on what kind of transport mods you have on 18:15 thefamilygrog66 kaeza: I added white beds yesterday... 18:15 thefamilygrog66 as well as black and grey 18:15 kaeza you did? hmm... 18:15 thefamilygrog66 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80413 18:23 thefamilygrog66 hey 0gb 18:25 Traxie21 jordan4ibanez: Fixed, had the wrong function 18:25 jordan4ibanez good 18:25 Leoneof hello, i've downloaded minetest from git, and compiled, but i can't run it, i get these errors http://pastebin.com/CtVqFFbG 18:26 Traxie21 Adding sudo-change and making a default and independant form ServerExtended 18:26 mauvebic what video output are you using? 18:27 us_0gb Hey, thafamilygrog66. 18:27 jordan4ibanez I just realised 18:28 us_0gb *the 18:28 thefamilygrog66 "grog" is fine :) 18:28 jordan4ibanez grass should only grow on dirt if dirt is next to water, or dirt is next to other grass 18:28 Leoneof hi PilzAdam :) 18:28 PilzAdam hello 18:28 mauvebic even with light/sunlight propagate set to false for my signlike flowerbeds, the dirt turns to grass underneath 18:29 thefamilygrog66 hey PilzAdam - thanks for merging the coloured beds 18:29 PilzAdam thx for coding them! 18:29 mauvebic i dont quite understand how light/sunlight propagate works with nodeboxes, weather set to true or false, the lighting is not 'evened out' like they are for full nodes 18:30 thefamilygrog66 haha, no problem 18:30 thefamilygrog66 I'm new to Lua, but it's pretty easy to learn 18:31 Leoneof why i get segfault? 18:31 thefamilygrog66 reminds me of my old BASIC years... 18:31 mauvebic what video output are you using? 18:31 Leoneof mauvebic: oh, i didn't know that question for me 18:32 mauvebic well your own error logs show you couldn't get a visual, so id try changing outputs 18:32 Leoneof mauvebic: nvidia geforce 8600gt 512mb 18:32 mauvebic nnoo lol i mean, opengl, Dx? 18:32 mauvebic on a win/lin? 18:32 Leoneof mauvebic: it's linux 18:32 mauvebic what version openGL? 18:33 Leoneof don't know, how to check that? 18:33 mauvebic usually in the titlebar if it could start :/ 18:33 mauvebic No doublebuffering available. 18:33 mauvebic Fatal error, could not get visual. 18:34 mauvebic http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11747768/double-buffering-not-working-opengl 18:34 us_0gb I have two essays to write, and you people are way to distracting for me. So see you later! 18:35 thefamilygrog66 did you install all the dependencies, Leoneof? 18:35 jordan4ibanez I know my footer for the main menu is only good for 1280x1024 pc desktops, but can my header be made the new logo for minetest's main menu? :3 18:36 Leoneof thefamilygrog66: i think so, that's why it's compiled without errors 18:36 mauvebic google isn't turning up much non-dev stuff on double buffering :/ 18:38 mauvebic same problem it seems: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=13985#p13985 18:38 jordan4ibanez this is the header http://i.imgur.com/vd74yau.png 18:38 jordan4ibanez (looks better when it's compressed in the main menu, much sharper) 18:38 mauvebic isn't it lovely when people fix problems and dont share the fix in their bug threads lol 18:39 mauvebic if hackeridze is still around you might ask him/her how it got fixed 18:39 jordan4ibanez Hey I remember that guy! 18:39 jordan4ibanez He was such a jerk 18:40 mauvebic another same problem, no fix http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-01-22#i_2829658 18:41 Leoneof jordan4ibanez: yes? you have good memory? go and sleep. 18:41 mauvebic from what i gather, its in irrlicht 18:42 jordan4ibanez Shut up leoneof xD 18:42 Leoneof it's keyboard :) 18:44 mauvebic do you have compositing enabled and vsync disabled? 18:45 Jordach PilzAdam, how do i apply that patch for looking at yourself? 18:45 Leoneof mauvebic: compositing is enabled, not sure about vsync 18:45 PilzAdam Jordach, do you have git? 18:45 Jordach yes 18:45 mauvebic if youre not sure how to enable vsync, try disabling compositing and see if minetest will start 18:45 Leoneof mauvebic: ok 18:45 * Jordach would have preferred a git branch 18:46 PilzAdam Jordach, save the patch as pats.txt in the minetest folder and run "git apply patch.txt" 18:46 PilzAdam Im too lazy to push my branch :-) 18:46 Jordach in /src or /minetest 18:47 Leoneof mauvebic: same, how to debug ? 18:47 PilzAdam minetest/ 18:47 mauvebic hmm, im stumped, there isnt much info i can find through google, youll need one of the Holy Sages 18:47 Traxie21 Toggleable creative mode is so fun XD 18:48 mauvebic try #minetest-dev any one of them should know 18:48 sokomine sounds good, traxie :-) 18:49 Jordach PilzAdam, is this from latest git 18:49 PilzAdam yes 18:49 mauvebic though the other guy who had doublebuffering issue was also using debian 18:49 Traxie21 I mean, its fun to switch gamemodes and break the hell out of some shit, spawn some free stuff, and go back to survival looking all innocent :3 18:50 kaeza Traxie21, per-player? 18:50 Traxie21 Afaik, it should be 18:51 Traxie21 I havent offically tested it, but it would be illogical if it didnt XD 18:51 mauvebic not sure how debian works but found this nugget: Do you have double buffering enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? 18:51 Traxie21 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80793#p80793 18:51 mauvebic 'Load "dbe"' 18:51 kaeza Can you also post a link to SE[x]? :P 18:52 jordan4ibanez how did you make the hand dig instantly? 18:52 * Jordach tries terasology 18:52 mauvebic ewww 18:52 mauvebic migraine visuals lol 18:53 Traxie21 kaeza, I'm removing the serverextended dependancy 18:53 Traxie21 However, if you want a link, check my siggy :P 18:53 Jordach PilzAdam, jordach@jordach-Aspire-SA80:~/Desktop/minetest$ git apply pats.txterror: patch failed: src/content_cao.cpp:850 18:53 Jordach error: src/content_cao.cpp: patch does not apply 18:53 kaeza Traxie21, I have sigs disabled :/ 18:53 Jordach broken patch mate 18:53 jordan4ibanez traxie21 how did you make the hand dig instantly? 18:53 kaeza anyway, found it 18:54 Traxie21 jordan4ibanez: minetest.register_on_punchnode(function(pos, node, puncher) 18:54 Traxie21 kaeza: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69004#p69004 18:54 jordan4ibanez oh xD 18:54 kaeza yeah, already downloaded 18:54 Traxie21 you need unstable 18:55 Traxie21 unstable is rather stable XD 18:55 Traxie21 but the gui and economy modules included don't work completely 18:55 mauvebic they added gold to the game right? along with coins and such? 18:55 Jordach PilzAdam, could you push a git branch 18:56 PilzAdam Jordach, player_model branch pushed to my repo 18:56 Jordach sweet 18:57 jordan4ibanez can you see yourself like F5 in minecraft too? :o 18:58 kaeza jordan4ibanez, yes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 18:58 jordan4ibanez it's a rickroll, you already did that in the forum 18:58 jordan4ibanez pilzadam where is your branch? 18:58 Jordach jordan4ibanez, you know how halo shows your legs 18:58 Jordach https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/player_model 18:58 Jordach its the same :D 18:59 jordan4ibanez Yes I already saw, but I was asking if it did the f5 thing too :P 18:59 Jordach jordan4ibanez, no 18:59 mauvebic wow they made it physically possible to navel gaze lol 19:00 rubenwardy1 someone thinks they are hilarious: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/MinetestExtensions_Troller.png 19:00 mauvebic jesus christ, another gangrape, this one in Rio, wtf is wrong with people? 19:00 Jordach PilzAdam, make your patch work so that the player skin arm appears when digging 19:00 rubenwardy1 download links to minetest.net 19:01 jordan4ibanez that would be cool if it wasn't a hack anymore and it were actually included, and we had 3d player wielding items, we could remove the player wield hand :D 19:01 Traxie21 Done: ServerExtended is no longer needed 19:01 Jordach this is me right now@ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 19:01 jordan4ibanez it would be like crysistest xD 19:01 mauvebic id rather 3d person view than being able to see my own unit 19:02 thefamilygrog66 lmao 19:02 mauvebic i mean, which is more helpful for building? lol 19:03 jordan4ibanez the first person view dummy! 19:03 mauvebic not always 19:03 Traxie21 jordan4ibanez: Default_Mode added in config.txt 19:03 jordan4ibanez I think this should be further worked on until we can have it as the default view for minetest ;) 19:03 jordan4ibanez yay! 19:04 mauvebic 3rd person and birds' eye would be nice 19:04 mauvebic you could prolly limit the # of angles from map_meta or minetest.conf 19:04 Traxie21 bbl 19:04 Traxie21 Cyas 19:04 mauvebic but birds eye requires being able to load the ground from high above 19:05 NakedFury over the shoulder third person view? 19:05 mauvebic 3rd person comes in handy for building and pvp 19:06 Jordach NakedFury, Tank controls from Resident Evil 5 19:06 mauvebic though how exactly crosshairs/node place/dig would work... lol 19:06 jordan4ibanez gears of war style running XD 19:06 jordan4ibanez that would be cool! 19:06 Jordach ^ PS3 user 19:06 NakedFury grand theft auto view 19:07 Jordach s/grand theft auto/Saints Row: The third 19:07 jordan4ibanez if running is eventually included,when you're viewing from behind your player, and run, the camera zooms into near your shoulder, and the fov increases :D 19:07 mauvebic yeah ive seen that in some games the camera being 'dragged' behind 19:07 mauvebic trucking games too, along with turns 19:08 * Jordach waits 6 years for minetest to compile 19:08 mauvebic ^ another reason engine dev would suck for me, waiting around for compiles lol 19:08 kaeza Jordach, make -j 9001? 19:08 Jordach kaeza, insta crash 19:09 mauvebic i restart the game so many bloody times just doing mods lol 19:10 mauvebic OT, you know immigration policy is borked when they have to print in newcommers' guides that honour killings are frowned upon lol 19:10 Jordach mauvebic, im still waiting for UKIP to become the government 19:10 mauvebic UKIP? 19:11 Jordach United Kingdom Independance Party 19:11 mauvebic i dont hear much about the BNP in the news lately 19:11 mauvebic havent heard of UKIP at all yet 19:11 mauvebic indenpendence from what? 19:11 Jordach if they get in, they will send all immigrants to france 19:12 celeron55 as if france would take them 19:12 mauvebic lol 19:12 celeron55 (yay politics) 19:12 hmmmm they would, french foreign league 19:12 mauvebic heck why do you think the conservatives won the last election in canada 19:12 Jordach celeron55, the french always bend over and take it (bar calinou) 19:13 celeron55 and yes, the immigration in europe has been totally borked for the past 10 years 19:13 Jordach because EU 19:13 mauvebic of course, rich liberals dont have to live with the results of their immigration policies, they only see the rich people of those countries in their neighbourhoods 19:13 celeron55 it's pretty bad in UK and france as far as i've heard 19:13 celeron55 too many traditional muslims 19:14 celeron55 mauvebic: yes 8))) 19:14 * Jordach would like to see the BNP in power 19:14 mauvebic hard right isnt the answer 19:14 mauvebic all parties should have sane policies regarding immigration 19:14 mauvebic one of the two canadians in the algeria gas plant thing was a whitey 19:15 mauvebic the other one a muslim no one knows about 19:15 Jordach anyways, i need to make guiDeathScreen a bit more friendly: 19:15 Jordach YOU DIED YOU FUCKING FOOL! 19:15 hmmmm death is not friendly 19:15 celeron55 it should have only one button: "delete world" 19:15 Jordach instead of You died. 19:16 kaeza celeron55, permadeath? :D 19:16 Jordach we really need a minetest auto updater 19:16 mauvebic noooo 19:17 Jordach VanessaE, apparently the blocks in the bottom left render in Linux too 19:17 mauvebic if it autoupdates and mods are broken can you imagine the blowback lol 19:17 VanessaE Jordach: not for me, I never see them. 19:17 VanessaE it must be an nVidia thing or something 19:17 VanessaE (I have AMD) 19:17 kaeza intel graphics here... never seen that render thing 19:17 hmmmm we should render multiple textures at the same time to speed it up 19:18 VanessaE hmmmm: yes, 19:18 hmmmm for 0.4.7! 19:18 VanessaE but make them visible if it won't slow anything down 19:18 VanessaE it gives the user feedback that something is happening 19:19 kaeza VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=53010#p53010 :D 19:19 Jordach PilzAdam, you patch SOMEWHAT works, and in the right camera angle, i can see my head 19:19 kaeza more coming soon... 19:19 VanessaE idea: for each mod being rendered, display the mod name below the rendering space. Display "Done!" and move the rendering space to the right by some small unit after that mod finishes 19:19 VanessaE that way you get an OpenAerna-esque loading display. 19:20 mauvebic "Schools should train teachers to carry guns, NRA-backed task force says" how long before you start hearing about teachers going nuts on students lol 19:21 Jordach this is what digging looks like when the wieldhand.png is all alpha: http://i.imgur.com/s4DRL0v.png 19:21 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 19:21 jojoa1997|Tablet so it looks realistic? 19:21 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, this isnt part of git 19:21 Jordach and frankly, its rather buggy 19:22 Jordach still nowhere as smooth as Red Eclipse's method 19:22 jojoa1997|Tablet it is the windows build of the look at legs version 19:23 sokomine i see those updating blocks always (linux, nvidia) 19:24 mauvebic sweet, finally done with all my civic furniture nodeboxes, now onto dumb-as-doorknob animals :D 19:25 sokomine mauvebic: well, the next step would obviously be to arm the students as well for such cases of teachers going nuts........... 19:26 VanessaE bbl 19:26 sokomine *g* why so dumb animals? 19:26 mauvebic cops armed like soldiers, teachers armed like cops, i dont see any of this ending well lol 19:26 mauvebic dumb animals = save resources 19:26 mauvebic i have a tendency to strip mods down to their essentials lol 19:28 * sokomine puts a few sheep in front of mauvebic and waits until the wool is dropped 19:28 jordan4ibanez omg http://imgur.com/gallery/vw2IAig 19:28 mauvebic dont use wool or dyes, i dont add things just for the benefit of crafting other things i truly need 19:28 mauvebic leaves more room for the things i care about and use 19:28 sokomine if you want to do some nice models for animals, how about goats? they ought to be happier in a mt landscape than sheep 19:29 thefamilygrog66 are you Canadian, mauvebic? 19:29 sokomine hm, yes. still...they are decorative animals. best would be to have them gather in groups around another mob... 19:29 mauvebic french canadian yeah 19:29 thefamilygrog66 cool - eastern ontario here 19:29 mauvebic i was thinking, 3 maybe 4 animals yeah 19:29 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan have you made mobs for minitest et? 19:29 jojoa1997|Tablet yet? 19:29 mauvebic like near cornwall?\ 19:30 thefamilygrog66 kingston-ish 19:30 mauvebic ahhh my sister went to Queens', nice town 19:30 sokomine i thought jordans mod was the base for yours, jojoa? or am i confusing things? 19:30 thefamilygrog66 right on 19:30 sokomine ah, minitest 19:30 mauvebic looks alot like where i live actually, we have prisons too, but not fort 19:30 mauvebic *no fort 19:31 thefamilygrog66 I guess we're losing a prison here 19:31 mauvebic i hope not, brother-in-law fathers' is a guard at KP 19:31 thefamilygrog66 yeah, the conservatives are closing kp 19:31 mauvebic besides the cons are building more of them 19:31 mauvebic theyre closing it? wtf 19:31 mauvebic opening a private one instead? 19:31 thefamilygrog66 likely, yeah 19:32 mauvebic cocksuckers 19:32 thefamilygrog66 haha 19:32 mauvebic the same prison industry that pushes for harsher laws for nonviolent crimes 19:32 thefamilygrog66 good times 19:32 jojoa1997|Tablet guys this needs to be added to default http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 19:33 mauvebic though with all the police brutality stories coming out of the media lately, the main lesson seems to be don't stop for the cops 19:33 mauvebic were seeing more people shooting at cops as a result 19:34 jojoa1997|Tablet sokamine i meant simple mods iirc jordan4ipbanez said he would make some mobs for minitest 19:35 sokomine ah, ok 19:36 sokomine mauvebic: thought those private prisons and an insanely high percentage of people kept in them was mostly a problem of the us? 19:36 mauvebic the private prison industry donates to the conservative party of canada, they expect a return on investment 19:36 jojoa1997|Tablet also jordan made the original but i greatly expanded all he did was make the entity 19:36 jojoa1997|Tablet though i also edited that A LOT 19:36 mauvebic liberals = media companies 19:37 mauvebic quebec liberals = mafia 19:37 mauvebic and the english here still vote for the PLQ 19:37 thefamilygrog66 where does quebecor fit in?... 19:37 mauvebic politics in quebec are totally fucked up 19:37 mauvebic basically asked to chose the lesser of all crooks 19:38 mauvebic i make it a policy to vote against the sitting government, whomever they may be 19:38 sokomine maybe we ought to be glad then...the hotel industry donated to a party and got reduced mehrwertsteuer (tax) on their services 19:38 jojoa1997|Tablet sokamine jordan basically made about 75-100 lines of code for it i made the rest 19:38 mauvebic wanna take the wind of their sales? (private prisons), legalize drugs 19:38 ruskie sokomine, I belive the word you're looking for is "VAT" value added tax hehe ;) 19:38 ruskie for the correct translation 19:39 mauvebic *sails 19:39 mauvebic and sales lol 19:39 sokomine ah, thanks for the translation :-) 19:39 mauvebic god knows the gov't could use the tax revenu 19:39 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam please make likkkkkkkkke an api for the currennnnnnnnnt innvvvvvvvvventorry moddso i ccann mmake oth 19:39 jojoa1997|Tablet other stuff 19:40 sokomine that tax is usually 19% and got reduced to 7% for hotels. the reduced percentage existed already for a long time and is in use for e.g. food and books 19:40 jojoa1997|Tablet no tax on food in the us 19:40 mauvebic not surprising, post-industrial towns and cities are turning to tourism, cant do that without giving tax perks 19:40 sokomine not that our politicians are much better...maybe they're required to give up common sense and any care for everyone else once they got elected 19:41 mauvebic whats really stupid: alberta sells crude at rock bottom prices, quebec has idling refineries 19:41 ruskie yeah usually there are two levels... reduced and normal 19:41 ruskie ours are 20% and 8.5% 19:41 ruskie 8.5% for services and food 19:41 mauvebic 15% for everything here 19:41 mauvebic (sales tax) 19:41 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make a cap mod? 19:42 mauvebic apart from food which isnt taxed 19:42 mauvebic but is expensive enough regardless 19:43 sokomine what has reduced rate and what not is sometimes confusing. eating food at where it is sold has the higher tax rate, while taking it away to eat elsewhere has the reduced rate. apart from these oddities, i think it's a good system 19:43 sokomine no tax on food would of course be even better 19:43 sokomine cap mod? 19:43 mauvebic thats because restaurants are a luxury 19:44 sokomine hm, yes, they're a service (even if it's only a minimal one) 19:44 mauvebic and alot of them dont welcome people on benefits (dress code) 19:46 mauvebic heck even when i do follow the dress code i look like something out of reservoir dogs lol 19:46 ruskie I don't bother with dress code restaurants 19:46 sokomine guess that depends on the restaurant. those that don't welcome specially closed people most likely would sell you very expensive food in extremly small quantities on almost empty tables anyway... 19:46 ruskie if they don't want my money then then their loss 19:46 mauvebic seriously lol more expensive it is, the less food you actually get 19:47 mauvebic just like women's clothes actually 19:47 sokomine :-) 19:47 sokomine there are enough normal restaurants out there 19:48 mauvebic meh, i dont patronize restaurants because ive worked in a dozen of em, from dirt cheap to near 4 star 19:48 mauvebic and they all have practices to turn your stomach lol 19:48 rarkenin Such as? 19:48 mauvebic the fancy they are, the less they seem to care about regulations 19:49 sokomine very likely, yes. there are a lot of things happening to food i don't want to really know about..... 19:49 mauvebic such as taking leftover steak pieces and grinding them up for spaghetti meat sauce 19:49 mauvebic taking the top layer of old pizza's to make lasagna filler 19:49 mauvebic i could go on but its dinnertime in two hours 19:49 ruskie and you think that the mince you get at the store is any better? 19:49 hmmmm efficiency! 19:49 mauvebic i go to a local butcher that is locally sourced 19:50 hmmmm the resturaunt biz is already a very low-margin enterprise 19:50 mauvebic i have family who work for the large farming coop too, so i know abit what to avoid 19:50 hmmmm not so much for high-end resturaunts but 19:50 sdzen this is a first :) 19:50 mauvebic i worked at one high-end restaurant that was sourced by a guy who worked at and stole from the grocery stores 19:50 sokomine a first? 19:50 ruskie well most meat around here is localy sourced(localy being from within the country) 19:51 sdzen someone dug an apple on my server and crashed it 19:51 sdzen setpos was giving a string and expected a number 19:51 sdzen given* 19:51 mauvebic if you eat out, the less you know the better :p 19:51 ruskie hehe 19:51 ruskie I prefer to cook 19:51 mauvebic me too lol 19:52 mauvebic i only eat one meal a day ( never hungrier then that) so i might as well not be lazy about it 19:52 mauvebic *than 19:52 sokomine hm, maybe the server followed our discussion here and took some bad ram.... 19:53 mauvebic i guess thats what happens when you wake up at 13h and neither feel like lunch or breakfast lol 19:57 jojoa1997|Tablet FOOD 19:58 Sketch2 huh, this is weird. my firewall log has some extremely suspicious activity that looks very much like a DDOS attempt. 19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet what is DDOS 19:59 Sketch2 Distributed Denial of Service 19:59 mauvebic why would they target you tho? 20:00 mauvebic running some sort of ecommerce site or? 20:00 mauvebic some lame passtime for you know who 20:00 Sketch2 a whole lot of Ip addresses try to attack a certain port at the exact same time. tho it can be spoofed if someone sends out malformed packets 20:00 mauvebic spoofings' easy, i spoofed my MAC address for years, free internet in the city lol 20:01 Sketch2 well, it could be some script-kiddie lurking in one of the IRC channels. 20:01 mauvebic if you ever find yourself kicked off a network without cause, youve prolly be spoofed lol 20:01 mauvebic as in you-know-who lol 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet VOLDEMORT 20:02 mauvebic ive gotten severe lag while being logged in on IRC and #minetest, so it wuldn't surprise 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet 's brother 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 20:02 mauvebic the minute i disconect and refresh IP it stops 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet you are on #minetest 20:02 mauvebic i know, its the only channel i have open 20:03 mauvebic cant follow several convos at once lol 20:03 mauvebic i dont even like to socialize irl lol 20:03 Sketch2 yeah, people running minetest servers should definately see that their firewall is doing what it ought to do, 'cuz we may have a prob with that. 20:03 mauvebic irl people are dumber than internet people 20:03 mauvebic and its not like internet people are all einsteins lol 20:04 jojoa1997|Tablet guys this needs to be added to default http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 20:04 mauvebic seems more like a speciality item 20:05 mauvebic *specialty wtv 20:05 jojoa1997|Tablet naw 20:05 jojoa1997|Tablet it lets admins be creative while regular players be survival 20:06 mauvebic perhaps the servers should just gather statistics on mods and add those at the top? 20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet also it lets special people get creative and you switch to creative ingae 20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet *ingame 20:06 mauvebic i know i wrote a priv for the creative inv, but i wouldn't push it to default 20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet dude you have amazing stuff but you dont want to share it 20:07 mauvebic already explained that :P more trouble than its worth 20:07 mauvebic dont wanna start a debate on it tho 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet but that is a neede feature 20:08 mauvebic theres a diff between needed and desirable, if over half the players feel the need to remove the mod, it shouldn't be in common 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet ok post a poll 20:09 mauvebic sure :-) 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet but first add a pull request 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet cause you need to get it known before giving up 20:09 mauvebic get what known? we still talking about creative inv? 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet your stuff but mainly creative 20:11 mauvebic well, in the simplest terms, no matter what i do, someone complains, and most of you are better at dealing with that than i am 20:11 NakedFury if there was a way to give creative inventory to players in a survival world by some special permission it would be nice. like server moderators could have the inventory without having to type /giveme ... all the time 20:12 mauvebic well, why not a special creative chest instead? 20:12 mauvebic make em rare, or make em require privs, dont know how you'd do it 20:12 kaeza bbl 20:12 mauvebic better than screwing around with the inv itself 20:12 * Sketch2 still has Scooby Doo music rolling nonstop trough brain. 3rd day of it :( 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet cause the creative chest would be annoying 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet imagine on a huge house and having to place a chest to get something 20:13 mauvebic more annoying that having different game modes for each player? 20:13 mauvebic hard to figure what type of game you're playing in 20:14 mauvebic ive seen lots of houses with dozens of chests in them 20:14 mauvebic and most players hide them now 20:14 sokomine limited worldedit would be more helpful than creative mode i think...even in my singleplayer world, i usually use giveme + normal mode 20:14 mauvebic though the creative chest would likely be controlled by the admin, could even tie it into money or something 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet hay i like to change my gamemode in minecraft all the time 20:15 Sketch2 tryin' out this Saturday Morning Beats playlist from Songza to hopefully get something else in there 20:15 mauvebic im a pure creative player, and i dont need the overhead of being able to switch back and forth in game :p 20:15 jojoa1997|Tablet one world and bboth ssurvviviingg aandd messsinnnnnnnnng around 20:15 jojoa1997|Tablet creative is for the weak 20:16 mauvebic dont imagine that i think much of people who waste hours crafting stuff to build a hovel lol 20:16 NakedFury not game mode just a permission/priviledge for server helpers or mods 20:16 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam you need to make lapiz azul and emerald blocks for minitest 20:17 sokomine hovel? 20:17 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, why dont you do it? 20:17 Sketch2 oh WTF is this?? they mixed Scooby Doo music into the background of this song >:C 20:17 mauvebic https://www.google.ca/search?q=hovel&sugexp=chrome,mod=5&ie=UTF-8 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet cause i dont know how you want the strength to be and 20:17 mauvebic hov·el 20:17 mauvebic Noun 20:17 mauvebic A small, squalid, unpleasant, or simply constructed dwelling. 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont know what the best ore code is 20:18 sokomine the chests full of stuff are useful. they show who built the house. helpful on multiplayer-servers. that gets lost when in creative mode :-( 20:18 jojoa1997|Tablet also i am busy with homework and the aliases 20:18 mauvebic Synonyms 20:18 mauvebic shack - shanty - hut - shed - cabin - kennel 20:18 jojoa1997|Tablet helpful sometimes but always anoyying 20:19 mauvebic i want things to look good, dont care if people believe i did it legit or not lol 20:19 sokomine mauvebic: ah! thank you for the translation. i didn't know that word 20:19 jordan4ibanez where is the version of minetest_game which contains the diamonds mod? 20:19 mauvebic all the time i save on crafting is time i can put into to designing nodeboxes and coding better mods 20:19 jordan4ibanez and moreores and such 20:19 sokomine but i doubt people spend much time on those houses. they usually build them up and pop a "for sale" sign on it hoping for desperate visitors to buy the house to tear it down... 20:20 mauvebic can you sell property with any of the existing minetest mods? 20:20 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, its in the pseudo game common 20:21 jordan4ibanez ohhh okay, I get it now 20:21 sokomine mauvebic: more time gets lost when trying to place all those nodes. most intresting ones have a relevant facedir, so that means getting into a position where they can be placed and then placing them. the screwdriver is a valuable tool there 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet jordan also update minetest_game 20:21 mauvebic place the same facedir node enough times and you know by-heart at what angles to place em lol 20:22 mauvebic lol : SEATTLE — One of the usually peaceful springtime rituals of childhood, the Easter egg hunt, turned nasty at the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle. 20:22 mauvebic A statement on the Seattle Police Department blotter Monday says the brawl began Sunday afternoon, “when one woman reportedly pushed a child aside as her own child was scrambling toward some brightly colored eggs.” 20:22 sokomine well, you can claim the house now belongs to someone else...(in the same way it belonged to you in the first place...doesn't change who built it, so there isn't much point in it. people do it anyway) 20:22 mauvebic well node protection should work like deeds, transferable, sellable, seizable 20:23 mauvebic money mods' already there on most servers 20:23 jojoa1997|Tablet they shoould use yours 20:23 mauvebic protection zones should be defined before building not after, and deeds should preferably be bought the first time, not given away 20:24 mauvebic which would require players to mine and sell or perform services to earn their plot of land 20:25 mauvebic my mint mod in its present form is useless for the large number of nodes on each server 20:25 mauvebic if i had to rewrite, id make it so you place things to be sold in an empty inv, and set your own prices 20:25 mauvebic though right now im trying to figure out a way to "stock shelves" 20:26 mauvebic without making nodes for each type of stock 20:27 Mati^1 hi 20:28 Sketch2 how's it 20:28 mauvebic empty grocery store: http://ompldr.org/vaHl3dQ/screenshot_3429742822.png 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet we need capes or cloaks 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet they look cool 20:30 sokomine looks good, but needs more color (maybe that will come with the products) 20:30 mauvebic well i got enough produce 20:31 mauvebic but how do you put things inside a nodebox shelf? lol 20:31 sokomine clothing...yes, would be nice. you could put it in chests so that npc have something to wear. an inventory image would be sufficient 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic went to the farmhouse 20:31 mauvebic got a huge farm on my map lol 20:31 mauvebic next up a rice farm, a livestock farm 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet you have an entire world that is a farm and all automated 20:32 jojoa1997|Tablet all you need now is realms to give you a form of world all on one spot 20:32 mauvebic i suppose all these ships and buildings and streets contain hidden farms too: http://www.zimg.eu/i/511837822 20:32 mauvebic (yellow part is farm) 20:33 mauvebic and its only the irrigation system thats automated 20:35 sokomine hm, they have replicators 20:35 sokomine (or /giveme...) 20:35 mauvebic replicators? wrote that over a year ago lol 20:36 mauvebic MK1,2, and 3 20:36 mauvebic first did 1 node, 2nd worked faster i think, 3rd made stacks 20:36 Traxie21 Halps 20:36 Traxie21 please 20:36 Traxie21 00:36:50: ERROR[ServerThread]: register_ore: clust_scarcity and clust_num_oresmust be greater than 0Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 00:36:52: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 20:40 mauvebic sounds like connection troubles, nothing new there 20:40 Traxie21 nope 20:40 Traxie21 happens in singleplayer too 20:40 mauvebic even on lan i get that too much 20:40 Traxie21 It has something to do with CreativeChanger, I didnt get it until after I added that 20:41 mauvebic does it have an joinplayer routine? 20:41 mauvebic *a 20:41 Traxie21 Yes 20:41 Traxie21 Probably quite a long one too 20:41 mauvebic problems in there somewhere 20:42 Traxie21 Heres the relevant code, its all run through on joinplayer: http://pastebin.com/tYWPHDBi 20:42 PilzAdam bye 20:42 Traxie21 bai 20:43 Traxie21 Oh wow 20:43 Traxie21 Yeah, that code does take forever to run 20:43 mauvebic redundant? if not playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] == "Creative" then 20:43 mauvebic updategamemode(pname) 20:43 mauvebic end 20:43 mauvebic updategamemode(pname) 20:43 Traxie21 How might I optomize it 20:44 mauvebic seems like its doing the same thing regardless of conditional 20:44 Traxie21 good point 20:44 mauvebic unless theres something im not getting 20:44 Traxie21 I just took the default creative mod and modified it 20:44 sdzen where is sapier? 20:45 mauvebic this should be split up too: if not playerdata[pname] or not playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] then 20:45 mauvebic playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] = Default_Mode 20:45 mauvebic save_player_data() 20:45 mauvebic playerdata = load_player_data() 20:45 mauvebic if not playerdata[player_name] then playerdata[playername] = {} 20:45 mauvebic once you init your table, you can work on keys :p 20:45 Traxie21 hehe 20:45 Traxie21 didnt notice that 20:46 Traxie21 I have to be careful to keep it compatable with SEx though 20:47 Uberi SEx is a poorly named mod 20:47 Traxie21 Yeah 20:47 Traxie21 in the code, I call it SE 20:47 Traxie21 :P 20:47 Traxie21 mabye 20:47 Traxie21 ServerEx 20:47 Traxie21 Or SeEx 20:48 Uberi ServerEx is nice 20:48 Uberi descriptive 20:53 hmmmm -Ex is so exploitable 20:53 hmmmm reminds me of windows API struct names 20:53 hmmmm THREADPOOLSEX 20:53 Uberi hmmmm: we don't talk about that anymore :( 20:54 Traxie21 mauvebic Ok, it appears to take a long time the first time you switch gamemodes, after that its much faster O-o 20:54 mauvebic cant do anything for speed, everyone's mod list is diff 20:54 Traxie21 Its this mod specifically 20:54 mauvebic and people bitch about performance but wont cut down or optimize lol (more ram) 20:54 Uberi hmmmm: I'm irritated enough by ERROR_SUCCESS 20:54 Traxie21 I don't know how to optomize this sheet 20:54 Uberi why is success an error? 20:55 Uberi well, we are talking Windows here 20:57 ShadowNinja Uberi: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ..../mods/build/mesecons/mesecons_commandblock/init.lua:41: attempt to call field 'get_player_by_name' (a nil value) 20:57 Uberi aw no 20:57 ShadowNinja uh, and does minetest have to say ERROR: ERROR: ERROR: ERROR: ERROR:? I think I get it after one or two. 20:58 Uberi ShadowNinja: invalid name in /hp? 20:58 sokomine well, who knows. at least it says error :-) 20:58 sokomine better than "unknown exception: (blank)" or something 20:58 ShadowNinja yes, someone ran hp around that time 20:58 Uberi better than access violation bla bla bla 20:58 Uberi ShadowNinja: I'll add checks for all the commands, gimme a few mins 21:00 Uberi hey, what does get_player_by_name return if the player isn't found? 21:00 ShadowNinja and make sure it checks the player running the command if it uses get_player_by_name(name) for the runner of the command 21:00 Jordach does anyone remember this type of mapgen: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-020413-215803.php 21:00 ShadowNinja nil 21:00 ShadowNinja if not player then retun end 21:00 Uberi nil? if you say so 21:01 Uberi I'll try it out just to be sure 21:01 * Uberi loves the //lua command for quick experimentation 21:03 mauvebic anyone else having trouble with zimg.eu? 21:04 Uberi hmm crashed the server somehow 21:05 mauvebic lol lua injection attack? 21:05 Uberi print(nil) apparently causes some sort of internal explosion 21:06 Uberi something to do with ores :/ 21:06 mauvebic i saw another error message in a pastebin aout ores 21:06 mauvebic *about 21:06 Uberi might be related 21:07 Traxie21 00:52:43: ERROR[ServerThread]: register_ore: clust_scarcity and clust_num_oresmust be greater than 0Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 00:52:45: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 00:52:47: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 00:52:49: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge player 00:52:51: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=3: failed to emerge 21:07 Uberi but minetest.log() does indeed crash the server 21:07 Uberi ah, that's the one 21:07 mauvebic ^ what traxie posted 21:08 mauvebic ooh, what about the ignore/blueprint spawn bug, is that still ongoing? 21:08 Uberi apparently yeah 21:08 hmmmm hmm 21:08 Uberi hmmm? 21:08 hmmmm i can explain the ore part at least 21:08 hmmmm in that version, i forgot to print a newline, so it doesn't get printed out until after that other error happens and prints to the console 21:09 hmmmm the ore error itself is caused by making certain ore too scarce, this has been corrected some time ago 21:09 Uberi so I should upgrade, yes? 21:09 hmmmm wait for 0.4.6 21:09 Uberi cool 21:09 mauvebic time to test a local folder compile :-) 21:10 mauvebic oh, waits instead 21:10 Sketch2 gonna go to Radio Shack and see if I can find a suitable plug to solder into the laptop so it can get power properly again :) 21:11 Uberi this is impossible 21:11 Uberi how is the minetest object not available? 21:12 mauvebic that is bizarre 21:12 mauvebic its happenned to me once, a month ago i think 21:12 Uberi oh oops, I shadowed it by accident :/ 21:12 mauvebic shadowed? 21:12 mauvebic sounds evil lol 21:12 Uberi local var overrode upvalue 21:12 mauvebic aah 21:13 Uberi ShadowNinja: it's done! I'm gonna copy it over to the repo and commit it now 21:14 ShadowNinja great 21:15 Uberi oops lemme rebase first 21:17 Uberi e45a2a511e4e371642cf60a8d0cb5df0123eead1 21:17 Uberi aw screw it let MinetestBot deal with it 21:17 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Sanity checks for commandblock commands. e45a2a511e 2013-04-02T14:15:38-07:00 http://git.io/3bCBXQ 21:17 Uberi thanks bro 21:24 Traxie21 ohi Gambit 21:24 Gambit I am not the Gambit from the minetest forums. 21:24 Gambit Also hi. 21:26 Exio Uberi: he was right, shadowing is normally evil! :P 21:27 mauvebic well its usually cops and spooks that speak of shadowing :p 21:38 Traxie21 Which gambit are you then? 21:39 NakedFury minecrafts gambit 21:39 NakedFury and twin forgotten brother to xmens gambit 21:39 Gambit I am the "Gambit the Battle for Wesnoth developer who also ops #minecraft and has to hang out here because of all the trolls that originate in this channel" - Gambit 21:40 sdzen which trolls? 21:40 Uberi Gambit: you dev Battle of Wesnoth? 21:40 Uberi neato 21:40 NakedFury battle of wesnoth = great game 21:41 NakedFury and art 21:41 Jordach Gambit, i assure you we are not trolls 21:41 Gambit Jordach: Of course not :) 21:41 NakedFury we are not but we have some 21:41 Jordach were just free people who want some some 21:41 Jordach fun* 21:41 NakedFury every channel sadly has trolls 21:44 * sdzen looks over at NekoGloop 21:44 Jordach Gambit, i've never played BfW 21:48 mauvebic im not even sure our trolls play minetest 21:48 mauvebic they seem to get more fun out of riling people up 21:48 Jordach Gambit, I heard you like Wesnoth, so I put Wesnoth in your Wesnoth 21:48 Jordach :P 21:48 Jordach i poke fun, but i dont troll :) 21:49 mauvebic well pilzadam's java anouncement was pretty funny, considering all the conspiracy theories people have about him lol 21:50 * Jordach thinks he wanted to annoy the people playing who dislike the idea of MC-ish features 21:50 mauvebic probably the funniest april fool's troll ive seen this year, googles & slashdots' sucked 21:50 Uberi mauvebic: link me! I missed it! 21:50 mauvebic im pretty sure he knew they'd eat it up lol 21:51 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5370 21:51 Jordach > Eat it up, implies we have the ability to byte bitrs 21:51 Jordach bits* 21:51 Jordach 21:51 Uberi bwahahahah 21:52 mauvebic well, people are already convinced he's writing MC in C++, so that was a perfect troll lol 21:52 * Uberi o/'s PilzAdam 21:52 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam isnt here 21:52 Uberi heheheh, Javascript plugins, that's rich 21:53 mauvebic i joked about PHP too and someone thought it was a good idea lol 21:53 mauvebic and hey, why not make node defs in XML!? lol 21:54 Uberi ew ew ew 21:54 hmmmm that thread. 21:54 Uberi get that idea out of here 21:54 mauvebic lol leave it, at least youll know who's sane and who isn't 21:55 hmmmm pretidigiwhatever just _has_ to take potshots at me 21:55 mauvebic ah not the noise thread again? 21:55 hmmmm no, he did this in the april fools thread too 21:55 hmmmm i mean, come on, if you're going to insult me, at least contain it. 21:55 mauvebic re-reads 21:56 mauvebic dang 21:56 hmmmm in a nutshell, he thinks he's better than all of us because he uses an unmaintainable amount of object orientation in his code and we don't 21:57 mauvebic hmm, well php's and lua's classes were pretty limited, so i only ever used them when absolutely necessary 21:57 mauvebic otherwise yeah theres alot of gunk for nothing, functional works just as well and is slightly easier to comprehend 21:57 hmmmm you mean imperative 21:58 hmmmm and object-oriented programming can be either functional or imperative, it's describing a different aspect 21:58 Uberi hmmmm: but think of the AbstractFactoryFactoryConstructorBoxReferenceManagerDispatchController 21:58 hmmmm like Terasology 21:58 hmmmm have you ever looked at their repo? 21:59 hmmmm it's nuts. that's the sort of thing that people like him not only enjoy, but are convinced that makes everything easier and is superior in general 21:59 mauvebic the box object must have a color object and a size object lol 21:59 Uberi eh it's all subjective in any case 21:59 Uberi I shoulda put BoxBox 21:59 Uberi it refboxes the box 21:59 mauvebic multiple inheritance sounds like oodles of fun too 22:00 mauvebic i dont wanna have to get a phd to understand code lol 22:01 hmmmm oh, no, no, you don't need to be advanced to understand it, you just need to have been the one to write it to understand it 22:01 mauvebic true 22:01 hmmmm you'll also need several UML diagrams and flowcharts to help you understand what the hell is going on, when you could've spent that extra time you used for all that overhead to _just code_ 22:01 Exio the only thing what i don't like of an "OOP" code is the overhead of the code 22:01 mauvebic though im about to give lua classes a shot for pipes since the current code is a mess lol 22:01 hmmmm it's metaprogramming at its finest 22:02 hmmmm you're not actually getting anything accomplished 22:02 Uberi hmmmm: to write an API, you must first define the universe 22:02 hmmmm lua classes are fine 22:02 hmmmm the level of OO we use is great 22:02 hmmmm it simplifies things 22:02 mauvebic ok so its relative to spending lots of time on specs and little on coding? 22:02 hmmmm there's a point though 22:02 hmmmm more than that, but yeah, basically. 22:03 mauvebic yeah, we have something like that here, called the government lol 22:03 Exio hmmmm: you said it perfect 22:03 hmmmm i do agree with the political sentiment that big government is bad 22:03 mauvebic studies up the wazoo while the bridge is falling down lol 22:03 hmmmm that's just my personality 22:03 Exio there is some "point" of the objects what is perfect and make stuff simpler 22:03 hmmmm hah 22:03 Exio but not the whole thing 22:03 Uberi mauvebic: no, its original design was as a place for the extra money generated by the Mint to be disposed of 22:03 hmmmm i guess, from what we just said, we can extrapolate that presdigitator is an avid Obama fan 22:04 Uberi that's some impressive deductive reasoning 22:04 mauvebic well take pipes and its devices for instance: lots of similiar properties, but not necessarily the same connecting sides, amounts of flow pressure, or actions to be taken 22:04 hmmmm it might be wrong, who knows? but i'd be willing to bet $10 that i am right 22:05 Uberi hmmmm: you'd be correct 59% of the time anyways :P 22:05 hmmmm 90% of statistics are made up on the spot 22:05 Uberi mauvebic: pipeworks? 22:05 mauvebic i forked it 22:05 mauvebic pipes 22:05 Uberi I think the code is nicely partitioned 22:05 Uberi oh who am I kidding 22:05 Uberi I just grep around until I find what I'm looking for 22:05 hmmmm forking with pipes and dongles - adria richards status - angered 22:06 mauvebic too many files, too much code, too many nodes, and no reconciling the coding styles, easier to fork 22:06 Jordach i was just looking at the back of the manual of guitar hero and found something strange 22:06 mauvebic lol adria 22:06 Jordach and theyre not using impulse tracker, mp3, or any custom format 22:06 Jordach its actually closer to home than we think 22:06 hmmmm i hope she checked her cis privileges 22:06 Uberi the 6d facedir should really help I think 22:06 * Jordach saw xiph.org 22:07 Uberi speaking of which, I should upgrade mesecons pistons to use those too 22:07 Jordach yes, most game devs use ogg and not wav 22:07 mauvebic though, weather it be obama or romney, both were screwed into presiding over one of the worst economies of all times 22:07 mauvebic 6d facedir should come in handy for pipes 22:07 Exio Jordach: fofix! 22:07 mauvebic i already reduced by half by removing the loaded and unloaded varieties 22:08 mauvebic alot of nodes are still redundant even with the old facedir, they could just been rotated to connect properly 22:08 Uberi mauvebic: all time? I still think it's better than the '50s 22:08 mauvebic real wages havent gone up in 30 years, we had it better back then 22:08 Uberi hey mauvebic got a link to pipes? it doesn't seem to be on github 22:08 mauvebic and in the 50's, most other industrial countries lay in ruins, 22:09 mauvebic V wouldn't merge it :P 22:09 mauvebic i can zip but im not done working on it and code is still messy (fair warning) :p 22:09 Uberi why not? 22:09 mauvebic dont like my code style :p 22:09 Uberi ah well 22:09 mauvebic but i like being able to read a whole function without scrolling constantly lol 22:10 mauvebic not everyone is a fan of 1-liners i know, but if its simple enough, i dont mind 22:12 mauvebic [wip] http://ompldr.org/vaHl4eA/pipes-040213.zip 22:12 VanessaE back 22:12 Uberi|AoS hey VanessaE 22:12 VanessaE hi 22:12 jordan4ibanez Hmm, I wonder if this could randomly be played at night time in minetest https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/lullaby 22:12 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 needs to be in minetest_game 22:13 mauvebic i know i can count on the support of everyone here when i say, all mods should be in common ;) :p 22:14 jordan4ibanez I just realized I'm more of a sound guy than anything 22:14 mauvebic i do a pretty good beavis/cornholio, excellent for telemarketers 22:14 VanessaE mauvebic: too late, it's already April 2 all over the world :-) 22:15 mauvebic naw thats all-year round lol 22:15 mauvebic the best way to get rid of jehovas is to hit on them lol 22:16 mauvebic ask for religious roleplaying, watch them run lol 22:17 VanessaE mauvebic: nonono, ask if they're into furries ;) 22:17 Uberi|AoS genious! 22:17 mauvebic excellent way to get your own bus seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ftOKO0nx-w 22:19 Exio VanessaE: a random thing because i know you have more than 8 gb of ram, how many do you use normally (without minetest, of course) 22:19 mauvebic i think she has more than twice that 22:19 VanessaE Exio: I have 16GB, and my server+client uses about 8GB of that in total. 22:20 mauvebic oh no, twice exactly 22:20 VanessaE (7.5GB or so max in the client) 22:20 mauvebic 8 gigs? tabarnacle 22:20 VanessaE mauvebic: 512px textures = major RAM hog. 22:20 mauvebic who built an in-game watson computer out of mesecons? 22:20 Exio i'm thinking about buying a 4gb module (for getting 8gb), but i can afford actually other 4gb module, in that case, if i do other upgrade would be only a 8gb module, (if i only buy a 4gb module today, 16 later) 22:21 Exio what do you think? :P 22:21 mauvebic 512 yeah 22:21 VanessaE Exio: whatever amount you plan to buy, buy twice as much. 22:21 mauvebic i stick between 32~64 22:21 mauvebic depending on how much detail matters, less so for crops, moreso for building materials 22:21 VanessaE always buy two sticks of the same type and size at a time - matched - so you can use dual-channel access (this is about 50% faster than single channel) 22:23 mauvebic lol the whole subway system just went down in montreal, at rush hour 22:23 VanessaE mauvebic: 512 HDX is like that - 512px for everything that needs high resolution, 64px for everything that's meant for the inventory only 22:24 mauvebic dunno beyond 64px my weak eyesight cant tell the difference lol 22:25 mauvebic LED screens dont help with high detail either :/ 22:27 VanessaE my eyes suck but I can still tell the difference between 256 and 512, beyond that is just overkill 22:28 mauvebic 512px is 32 times the default tho, some might call that overkill :p 22:28 Jordach VanessaE, 2048^2 22:28 Jordach TRY THAT. 22:29 VanessaE hell no 22:29 VanessaE my machine would explode 22:29 mauvebic lol 22:29 mauvebic thats like, beyond most screen res' lol 22:29 Exio VanessaE: exactly, but the thing is: $$$ 22:29 VanessaE but not before screaming "you crazy bitch! look what you did to me! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" 22:29 Jordach Nope. 22:29 VanessaE Exio: I paid $77 for 16GB. this is chepa. 22:29 VanessaE cheap 22:30 Jordach VanessaE, i paid £12 for 2x1GB 22:31 Exio i have 78 USD here ("in hand") and the price of a 8gb module is ~117 22:31 mauvebic ugh, stomach still in knots - must be leftovers comboplate from last night lol 22:31 VanessaE Exio: you're shopping at the wrong places 22:31 Exio the price of a 4gb module is like 40~ USD 22:31 Exio VanessaE: argentin 22:31 Exio a 22:31 VanessaE Exio: buy online. 22:32 mauvebic dont trust UPS and the likes 22:32 mauvebic i worked for them :p 22:32 VanessaE use Pricewatch 22:32 mauvebic every see a delivery guy play basketball with a package? lol 22:32 VanessaE I *HATE* UPS. but ordering online is still the best way to get good deals. 22:32 Exio VanessaE: that will not work nicely here :P 22:32 VanessaE Exio: have you tried? :) 22:32 jordan4ibanez does this work? http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=313hummer 22:32 mauvebic and jokes about "what does FRAJILEE mean?" lol 22:33 * Jordach already added jordan4ibanez on YT 22:33 jordan4ibanez okay does that direct you to subscribing to me? xD 22:33 Exio half of the stuff gets stuck in the.. ehm, what is the word for the thing what "controls" the import-thing-stuff in english? 22:33 jordan4ibanez jordach, unsub me, and test it :L 22:34 Jordach no. 22:34 Jordach CPU? 22:35 VanessaE customs 22:35 VanessaE Exio: ^^^ 22:35 NotReallyNick Hey, everyone! 22:35 VanessaE hey 0gb 22:35 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#sCONjnWd 22:36 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#AyoNxlYS VanessaE 22:36 NotReallyNick You knew who I was? Drats. 22:36 VanessaE NotReallyNick (~us_0gb@ ..... ) 22:36 NotReallyNick Well, it's true. I'm not really Nick. 22:36 VanessaE you forgot to hide your username ;) 22:36 NotReallyNick Hide how? 22:36 VanessaE Kacey: try the "creamy chicken" variety :) 22:36 NotReallyNick It doesn't show up for me. 22:36 VanessaE 0gb: no idea. 22:36 Jordach us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net NotReallyNick im pretty sure its 0gb_us alright 22:37 NotReallyNick Well that spoils my plans for this name. 22:37 NotReallyNick I even came up with a motto. 22:37 NotReallyNick NotReallyNicK: All you know about me is that I claim to be an imposter. 22:38 NotReallyNick But apperently you know more. Too bad. 22:38 VanessaE Kacey: recipe for you: 1 pkg creamy chicken ramen. 100g or so chopped, cooked chicken breast. 50g or so of parmesan cheese. Cook ramen with the chicken, in as little water as you can get away with. Mix in the flavor packet and the cheese. Stick and orgasm. 22:38 VanessaE Stir* 22:38 mauvebic lol stick and orgasm 22:39 mauvebic and you said i had a dirty mind 22:39 VanessaE stir and enjoy -> orgasm :-) 22:39 mauvebic were not talking about those famed back-massagers right? lol 22:39 Jordach mauvebic, :D 22:39 Kacey lol VanessaE, what did i just read? an exerpt from 50 shadesof grey perhaps? 22:39 VanessaE mauvebic: don't go all Sigmund Freud on us here :) 22:39 jojoa1997|Tablet wow the perfect time to join 22:40 VanessaE Kacey: no, a really *REALLY* yummy way to prepare ramen noodles. 22:40 mauvebic in these dreams of yours, were there any cigars or bananas? 22:40 Kacey sure *rolls eyes* 22:40 jojoa1997|Tablet TO THE LOGS 22:40 Jordach VanessaE, I've just read the best recipe ever for a woman: Stick and orgasm. 22:40 Jordach :D 22:40 * Jordach knows what Jordach is doing tomorrow with Jordach's girlfriend 22:40 Kacey lol i may be too young to know about 50 shades of grey, but i know about it 22:41 VanessaE Jordach: you know how they say girls are made from sugar and spice and everything nice? They left out most of the sugar and everything nice, and left mostly just the spice in my case ;) 22:41 Jordach ohh arr 22:41 Jordach (oh-are as pronounced) 22:41 VanessaE but I'm just talking about a recipe :-) 22:41 mauvebic ohh arr = welsh? 22:41 VanessaE you guys are the ones with the dirty minds :) 22:41 mauvebic well you walked into it :p 22:41 Jordach VanessaE, please meet my girlfriende 22:42 Jordach -e 22:42 VanessaE no. :) 22:42 Jordach she's worse than me 22:42 * Kacey forever alone 22:42 Jordach if a NERD like me can get a girlfriend, then anyone can. 22:42 Kacey not me 22:42 VanessaE Jordach: I'm taken :-) 22:43 Jordach IKR 22:43 Jordach she's somewhat nerdy 22:43 mauvebic well nerds are always preferable to douchebags 22:43 VanessaE Jordach: somewhat? :P 22:43 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach i choose not to have one for now 22:43 mauvebic whats the range of careers for a douchebag? cop, football, finance 22:44 VanessaE mauvebic: don't forget fast food :) 22:44 Uberi|AoS all very high paying, might I add 22:44 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic mauvebic mauvebic those are the jobs 22:44 NotReallyNick VanessaE, can use still see who I am in your client? 22:44 mauvebic naw fast food hire out-of-country now and house them in questionable accomodations (re tim hortons in canada) 22:44 VanessaE /whois NotReallyNick 22:44 VanessaE [NotReallyNick] (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net): 0gb.us 22:44 VanessaE ... 22:44 VanessaE I'd call that a big "yes" :) 22:44 mauvebic and they shipem back when theyre fired (basically indentured servitude) 22:44 NotReallyNick Why does it have my name? 22:45 Uberi|AoS you're logged in NotReallyNick 22:45 NotReallyNick The ISP makes sense, but why a permutation of my name? 22:45 Kacey go to #freenode and ask for a cloak 22:45 VanessaE 0gb: probably your "real name" field. 22:46 VanessaE Kacey: it's not a freenode thing, that's an irc feature. 22:46 Kacey but then you will be 0gb_us@unaffiliated 22:46 Exio NotReallyNick: you will need to relogin for changing the username 22:46 NotReallyNick That explains the "0gb.us" part, but not the "us_0gb" part. 22:46 Exio reconnect, same foir the realname 22:46 Exio for * 22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet SCREENSHOTS WE NEED SCREEN SHOTS http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5403 SSSSCCCCRRRREEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNSSSSSHHHHHOOOOOTTTTTSSSSS 22:46 NotReallyNick If I reconnect, I turn back into us_0gb. 22:46 mauvebic dont need a cloak, im changing ISPs at the end of the month lol 22:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i had too much sugar 22:46 VanessaE 0gb: that's your "user name" field probably. 22:47 VanessaE at least that's what xchat calls them. 22:47 mauvebic my current ISP might as well tell me to bend over lol 22:47 NotReallyNick 0gb.us is my real name feild. But why is us_0gb showing up? 22:47 VanessaE I don't hide behind wussy things like cloaks :-) 22:47 jojoa1997|Tablet me+sugar+7/32 hours of sleep = drunk 22:47 VanessaE 0gb: us_0gb = "user name" 22:47 mauvebic seriously lol i equate cloaks = troublemakers 22:47 NotReallyNick No, 0gb.us == real name. 22:47 mauvebic and im all like, come at me bro lol 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet how do you get a cloak 22:48 VanessaE 0gb: nonono, your *user* name is the part that shows up ahead of the @ 22:48 VanessaE your *real* name shows up after the user@host 22:48 mauvebic ask the klingon 22:48 mauvebic *klingons 22:48 NotReallyNick OH! Sorry, I misread what you said, VanessaE. 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet what does claok do 22:48 VanessaE no prob. 22:48 jojoa1997|Tablet lets me pretend i am batman 22:48 mauvebic you mean the name i gave to my fly-by-night ISP? yeah lol i pay em cash 22:48 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: makes you look as "blahblah@freenode/unafliliated" or so 22:48 Kacey jojoa1997|Tablet, /whois Kacey 22:49 Kacey i have a cloak 22:49 VanessaE [04-02 18:09] * Kacey (~Kacey@unaffiliated/kacey) has joined #minetest 22:49 VanessaE like that 22:49 mauvebic *whoosh* im invisible 22:49 NotReallyNick So that's the user name on my computer then? Because on my computer I'm us_0gb@mint-0gb-us? 22:49 Exio that is an unaffiliated cloak, there are others 22:49 Jordach NotReallyNick, the @ indicates the network name 22:49 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb is in 22:49 Exio like /whois Exio :P 22:50 jojoa1997|Tablet chicago mauvebic washington 22:50 mauvebic thats what mine says? lol 22:50 NotReallyNick Why is my name in lower case now? Foolishness .... 22:50 mauvebic used to say montreal before they were bought out by mustang in miami 22:50 ShadowNinja no, that is just the nick you had when you logged in most likely, you login to us_0gb and then you can change nicks freely 22:50 NotReallyNick test 22:50 jojoa1997|Tablet nope 22:51 NotReallyNick Okay, back in capitals. 22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet haha you cant see my location with whois 22:51 mauvebic how often does stalking occur through IRC anyhow? 22:51 NotReallyNick Yeah. You see mine with whois as well. 22:51 ShadowNinja You can get it from geoloction 22:51 mauvebic these days people use facebook to check if people are home and what they own before robbing them 22:51 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE loves this mod ;-) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5404 22:51 * NotReallyNick doesn't use Facebook 22:52 NotReallyNick Let me rephrase: 22:52 * jojoa1997|Tablet doesnt have/want facebook 22:52 mauvebic i do but i use fake pictures and fake names everywhere, as it was in the 90s 22:52 * NotReallyNick doesn't really use Facebook 22:52 VanessaE ohhh brother. 22:52 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic show us a pic of you or pm me 22:52 NotReallyNick Toilet paper? Okay .... 22:53 mauvebic its up to them to prove it aint, and they dont wanna delete their own product profiles lol 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic show us a pic of you 22:53 mauvebic the more you load down facebook with fake crap, the less valuable your data is to others 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet or pm me 22:53 mauvebic no 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet pm me 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet please 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i will make a mod for you 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet done 22:53 jojoa1997|Tablet a folder named mauvebic 22:54 mauvebic lol 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet it has your forum pic 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet now showme who you are 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet please 22:54 mauvebic that pic is from Are You Being Served? lol 22:54 jojoa1997|Tablet now 22:54 VanessaE Kacey: you gotten any bites on your mesecons tubes work? I noticed your post on the forum. 22:54 Kacey idk 22:54 * jojoa1997|Tablet throw lightning bolt at mauvebic's head 22:55 mauvebic plus im white as a friggin sheet with all the sleep ive gotten in the last two weeks 22:55 * jojoa1997|Tablet misses and stalks mauvebic 22:55 * jojoa1997|Tablet finds mauvebics location 22:55 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, he's under 2000ft of snow 22:55 Jordach that's Canada! 22:55 mauvebic the last person to stalk me irl had a lengthy hospital stay :p 22:55 * jojoa1997|Tablet checks all logs to find wher he is 22:56 * jojoa1997|Tablet becomes superman batman and spiderman combined 22:56 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: http://dpaste.com/1044890/ 22:56 mauvebic related to that court thing i told yall about lol 22:56 Exio how a /whois looks here 22:56 * jojoa1997|Tablet forgets that and becomes the hulk 22:56 NotReallyNick The Hulk has no control over his power. Bad choice. 22:56 jojoa1997|Tablet tell me 22:56 jojoa1997|Tablet not really 22:56 jojoa1997|Tablet avengers movie 22:57 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: what do you think about my whois? :) 22:57 mauvebic and the guy that broke into my home last year, he left the city shortly thereafter lol 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet he figures out he can control it and kicks *ss 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i get secure connection 22:57 jojoa1997|Tablet wait i have secure connection 22:58 jojoa1997|Tablet my mom 22:58 * NotReallyNick has a mother too 22:58 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: connecting to freenode using SSL 22:58 jojoa1997|Tablet ?.? 22:59 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80886#p80886 22:59 NotReallyNick Okay, sse you all later. 22:59 NotReallyNick *see 22:59 * jojoa1997|Tablet runs to the bathroom after installing latest mod 22:59 mauvebic TMI 22:59 NotReallyNick A secure connection hide the data you send, not where you sent it from. 23:00 * jojoa1997|Tablet is dissapointed to see i have regular toilet paper 23:00 Exio http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml 23:00 mauvebic meh, the 5sheet stuff clogs the drains lol 23:01 mauvebic "there was a rather unusual drinking fountain in the bathroom" ... " sir, thats a bidet" 23:01 Jordach jojoa1997|BATH, taking a dump on IRC? 23:02 jojoa1997|BATH What is a bidet 23:02 mauvebic lol 23:02 mauvebic never watched crocodile dundee? 23:02 jojoa1997|BATH And yes I am actually 23:02 * Jordach high fives mauvebic for quoting good movies 23:02 jordan4ibanez doesn't excess flood mean you're spamming 23:02 Jordach why yes 23:02 mauvebic brings new meaning to the term "instagram dat shit" 23:03 Jordach 23:03 mauvebic its only a matter of time 23:03 jojoa1997|BATH Lol 23:03 Jordach eugh 23:03 jordan4ibanez I have a new series rendering :D 23:03 Jordach my VPS is either French or German 23:03 mauvebic which reminds me of another movie, Running with Scissors lol 23:04 * jojoa1997|BATH walks to the bathrrom and laughs from comments. Mom wonders what is happening 23:04 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#6adKSj8J THE COMMENT. PRICELESS. OMG!!!!! 23:05 jojoa1997|Tablet I was joking with everything 23:05 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: changing the nicks in that way is annoying as hell 23:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Every time I switch back to and chat I see this 23:07 mauvebic " Cable companies look to sports fans for salvation as ‘cord-cutting’ takes hold in Canada" well duh 23:07 mauvebic they did it to themselves lol 23:07 jordan4ibanez what is cord cutting 23:07 jojoa1997|Tablet 18:40] VanessaE, I've just read the best recipe ever for a woman: Stick and orgasm. 23:08 jojoa1997|Tablet I see that e very time I enter this app 23:08 mauvebic cord cutting is realizing constantly buying new TVs and disc players for more and more commercials is a pointless endeavour.... ie, switching to netflix :P 23:09 jordan4ibanez who didn't realize that 23:09 VanessaE mauvebic: did that years ago. 23:10 mauvebic boomers' still think its a fad apparently 23:10 jordan4ibanez You mean those things from gears of war? 23:10 VanessaE somewhere among our crap we have one of those DTV tuner/converter boxes which could connect to our entertainment system, but meh 23:10 mauvebic i remember i was so pissed off when they cancelled Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles to keep more of those crappy reality shows 23:11 jordan4ibanez You guys store your crap? Don't you have a toilet? 23:11 jojoa1997|Tablet wannawanna ar a joke 23:11 jojoa1997|Tablet wanna hear a joke 23:11 mauvebic things like jersey shore, encouraging kids to walk around looking like Oompa Loompa's 23:12 jordan4ibanez kids watch jersey shore? 23:12 VanessaE mauvebic: youtube + buy your own stuff on amazon = win :-) 23:12 mauvebic shows like Talking Dead start off courageous and end in blandness 23:12 mauvebic even on shows like SVU i noticed this pattern where every ally eventually becomes a villain 23:13 mauvebic its as if the whole world but the cops are perverts lol 23:13 mauvebic and anyone whos falsely accused one episode winds up guilty half a season later lol 23:13 VanessaE mauvebic: wait a sec - you mean to say the whole world isn't? 23:13 VanessaE ;) 23:13 jordan4ibanez this is one of the suggested videos for my cake video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG0D6pYSbUw 23:13 mauvebic well me thinks writers aren't nearly as smart as they think they are 23:14 mauvebic you know what star trek needs? more lens flares :p 23:14 mauvebic and movies obviously need more foghorns 23:14 VanessaE heh 23:14 mauvebic its like theyre all working from the same template :p 23:14 VanessaE seen the new one yes? 23:14 VanessaE yet* 23:15 mauvebic ooh and White House Down == Olympus something 23:15 mauvebic seems almost like twin movies lol 23:16 jojoa1997|Tablet `1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\aaasdfghjkl;''zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_++QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? 23:16 jojoa1997|Tablet that is my entire keyboard format 23:16 mauvebic sortof interested in World War Z, but i have a feeling ittl be another cop-out 23:16 mauvebic if they ever come up with a zombie flick with a plausible origin and endgame i think ill shit myself 23:17 jordan4ibanez That's my area of specialty 23:17 mauvebic do you keep up with Talking Dead? 23:18 mauvebic basically lost their balls, afraid to killoff the governor and try something new 23:18 jojoa1997|Tablet i hope minecraft gets a modding api with lua so we can easily get mods from theirs 23:18 mauvebic 'course when the writing sucks people blame "corporate interests" lol 23:18 Exio lol jojoa1997|Tablet 23:18 jojoa1997|Tablet nope 23:19 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm minetest needs the mods 23:19 jordan4ibanez 2.5 weeks after the beginning of the government testing a virus to kill of parts of the population; virus mutates; is able to partially revive dead tissue (not too long gone though); survivors are a group of 2 grown men 2 grown woman, and a teenager; takes place in nevada so zombies don't decay too quickly 23:19 Exio minecraft will get a mod api in java 23:19 jordan4ibanez it's the perfect set up 23:19 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft needs to get a builtin modloader so i can add mods easily 23:19 jojoa1997|Tablet tried to install forge and disaster 23:20 mauvebic you know the zombie/gov't lab thing is basically based on the AIDS conspiracy theories 23:20 jordan4ibanez wtf lol, all you had to do was delete meta-inf, and drop the files into the .jar 23:20 jojoa1997|Tablet read maze runners 23:21 jojoa1997|Tablet the 2nd book has zombie like people 23:21 jojoa1997|Tablet also jordan 23:21 jojoa1997|Tablet it is the fml 23:21 jordan4ibanez well mauvebic, not too long ago a government virus testing faciluty was set up between a school, an elderly center, a bunch of farms, and a city, so idk what that's about 23:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i think it is the bsecure my mom has on my computer 23:22 mauvebic bioweapons are nothing new, our ancestors gave blankets laced with smallpox to clear the great north american wilderness 23:22 mauvebic (of the natives) 23:22 jordan4ibanez well your ancestors, mine came from canada and scotland lol 23:22 jojoa1997|Tablet uh your ancestors 23:23 mauvebic yours too then lol 23:23 NakedFury native americans(all indians from the "new worlds") could be considered the first victims of bioweapons 23:23 jordan4ibanez no, my great grandparents, they came here around 1900 23:23 mauvebic and then there was africa 23:23 jojoa1997|Tablet half of mine from poland and the rest from 20 other countries 23:23 jordan4ibanez my generation of family wasn't around here for that. xD 23:23 mauvebic opium wars 23:23 jojoa1997|Tablet dOPIUM 23:24 jojoa1997|Tablet i gues dopium is high on opium 23:24 mauvebic the first use of concentration camps during the Boehr wars 23:24 jordan4ibanez this has turned into #conspiracy_theories 23:24 mauvebic uhm, these things happened 23:24 jojoa1997|Tablet https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEyOkBZeRWd4TUcPHHG-NZTOiYPhH_Rpq1L5w_R6XV85enL3WumQ 23:25 jordan4ibanez I know, but this is minetest not #conspiracy_theories or #history XD 23:25 mauvebic true, but dont act like any of it is new :p 23:25 jojoa1997|Tablet \/join #history 23:25 jordan4ibanez from this point on, people are only allowed to say the word minetest in #minetest 23:25 mauvebic minetest minetest minetest minetest, minetest minetest minetest minetest? 23:26 jordan4ibanez minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest minetest, minetest minetest, minetest. 23:26 mauvebic minetest ! 23:26 jordan4ibanez mauvetest... 23:26 VanessaE mesetint. 23:26 mauvebic lol 23:26 jojoa1997|Tablet MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT MINECRAFT DOGS PIZZA JOJOATEST MUWHAHAHA 23:26 Exio wtf 23:26 jordan4ibanez come on...man... 23:26 rarkenin competitive wire-winding. 23:26 jordan4ibanez don't be a....deek... 23:27 jojoa1997|Tablet vanejordauv1997test 23:27 NakedFury nakedVanejordauv1997test 23:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i can make you laugh 23:28 * jojoa1997|Tablet wistles 23:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i didnt know i could see head naked without a mirror or reflective surface 23:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i can make you laugh 23:28 jojoa1997|Tablet https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf5bL2yWueD3E-EMn-ZsV8SRf2VFRyomJ97SEK1NIVYNOcm-QsDw 23:28 jordan4ibanez the fuck 23:29 mauvebic i almost forgot the Duplessis orphans of the 50's, bastard children taken by the catholic church in quebec and dumped into learning hospital to be experimented on 23:29 sokomine the current map file format is...? 23:29 jordan4ibanez something 23:29 VanessaE an sqlite database ;) 23:29 sokomine (just wishing to understand the map file format) 23:29 jojoa1997|Tablet vote cats or dogs 23:30 sokomine yes, and using a mysql-database for having a look at that format is more helpul 23:30 jojoa1997|Tablet dogs +2 23:30 jojoa1997|Tablet https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbBVdgTD3a1hv0p34CRTAHg9-C5rx588ZjjBOcglRwv6fbTvRw 23:31 jojoa1997|Tablet wanna see a minetest pic 23:31 jojoa1997|Tablet https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRypzUo6J4kBqf-uRFzXhxTSWe-BrQ2KwTR7yuSzSlkgF8QEwT7UQ 23:31 VanessaE heh 23:33 jordan4ibanez I just realized something 23:34 jordan4ibanez in minecraft there's a hard limit because the player's position number gets so huge it starts to become imprecise 23:35 jordan4ibanez if you broke the map up into map sectors ( a part of the map that when the number gets to say, 31000, it starts to go back down as you go into the next map sector 23:35 jordan4ibanez if you did that, you could say, have 31000 map sectors with a limit of 31000 nodes 23:35 jordan4ibanez minetest* 23:35 VanessaE wouldn't do any good, precision in minetest is horribly imprecise that far out anyway 23:35 VanessaE you'd need to cut it off at more like half that range or less 23:36 VanessaE "precision [...] is horribly imprecise" ... heh 23:36 jordan4ibanez NO! it wouldn't be, because walking into the next map sector, would be like walking back to the center of the map of the sector that you just left, only it will be a different sector with different terrain 23:36 jordan4ibanez each sector could have it's own database 23:36 Exio code it 23:37 VanessaE yeah but when you're 30000 out from center, shit gets all glitchy. 2d objects disappear, nodeboxes jitter around 23:37 jordan4ibanez then limit the map sectors to 25000 23:37 VanessaE more like 16000 or less. 23:38 jordan4ibanez I have no idea how, I don't know c++ 23:38 VanessaE the correct solution of course is to just increase the range and fix whatever is causing that imprecision in the first damn place 23:38 jordan4ibanez I just know the logic behind fixing the glitch without rewriting a _huge_ amount of code 23:38 Exio VanessaE: what was the way to hang the server and make it eat the whole ram+cpu? 23:38 jojoa1997|Tablet i agree i want stuff but dont know C++ 23:38 VanessaE whether that would be hard or easy, I have no clue at all. 23:39 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: saying things is easy, coding them isn't 23:39 jordan4ibanez clearitems 23:39 Exio objects* 23:39 jojoa1997|Tablet eh 23:39 jojoa1997|Tablet it is hard when you got no sleep 23:39 VanessaE Exio: it just happens. I have no idea why, celeron55 says it's because of the way the engine checks for collisions - at high acceleration values, the check eats tons of CPU+RAM because it has to check huge volumes of space. 23:39 jojoa1997|Tablet \this summer i am staying up for 3 days stright 23:39 Exio well.. that is the stuff i changed 23:39 Exio https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/901795681df676ab77b386da95fa2d890347187d 23:39 VanessaE so your fix might have actually fixed it enough to stop it from happening 23:39 Exio it should fix both then, or what? 23:39 VanessaE possibly, yes 23:39 jordan4ibanez the only thing I do know, is that position would have to has an S value added for sectors, so {x=,y=,z=,s=} 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet no 23:40 VanessaE 5000 may be a bit high, why not 500? 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet then you wont know where you are 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe 23:40 Exio because you can reach 500 "legit" 23:40 Exio when falling in simplenode mapgen 23:40 jordan4ibanez or even sectors acting as HUGE nodes, like {x=,y=,z=,{sx=,sy=,sz=}} 23:40 VanessaE Exio: exactly, but 500 is half again as fast as a human being can possibly move through thin air. 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet {x=,y=,z=,x'=,y'=,z'=} 23:40 VanessaE iow insanely fast 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet the ' means sectores 23:41 VanessaE so 5000 is ludicrous speed :-) 23:41 Exio VanessaE: hm, the collisionMoveResult is not *only* for the player 23:41 Exio i see it "ok" because the engine is good enough to handle 5000 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe sectors are map chunks 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet a 23:41 VanessaE Exio: I know, but 5000 nodes/sec? that traverses the entire map in 12 seconds. 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet sa 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet sd 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet f 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet r 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet gg 23:42 NakedFury what is this about 500 or 5000? 23:42 Exio VanessaE: it is not nodes 23:42 VanessaE NakedFury: the cap on player/item/entity speed. 23:42 VanessaE Exio: what is the unit of measure then? 23:42 NakedFury if that is a huge problem make it a low not engine damamging cap 23:42 jojoa1997|Tablet wow that never happened before 23:43 NakedFury we arent playing for realism here 23:43 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: get control of your tablet and keep your cats off of it. 23:43 VanessaE NakedFury: of course not, but why go insane? 23:43 Exio i think it is "pixels" (as every node is 16, iirc) 23:43 Exio it is used with the BS value 23:43 VanessaE Exio: it would be 10, and they're not pixels. I noticed the *BS multiplier. 23:43 Exio what is used for everything, really 23:43 VanessaE so then 5000 would be 500m/sec 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet my dog stepped on it and almost broke the bluetooth keyboard 23:44 Exio yep, 10 then 23:44 VanessaE which is fine. 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet 80 pound dog 23:44 VanessaE that cap is reasonable then. 23:45 VanessaE Exio: as long as you're patching this, perhaps you should add a hard limit to player/object/entity positions to never go below -30912 or whatever it is. 23:45 VanessaE that's another known way to crash a server. 23:45 Exio ehm, how the hell a thing would get over those values? 23:45 Exio (outside overflowing the accel what should be fixed) 23:45 jojoa1997|Tablet simple 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet teleport entity there 23:46 Exio i'll check about that, but you will need to tell how to get that :P 23:46 VanessaE Exio: someone did it on redcrab's server. they dug all the way own from the surface to -30XXX and then someone else dropped somethign down the shaft 23:46 Exio wtf... 23:46 VanessaE yeah. 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae 23:46 NakedFury set a hard negative limit with a special block if possible. not craftable. not minable. not even possible to build from it. place it at -30500 and be done with it 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet what if i fly down there? 23:46 Exio NakedFury: that seems better for me :P 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet no 23:46 NakedFury also dont make an alias for the block 23:46 VanessaE Exio: I've been down there in the room they built. It was interesting to see that they'd done it. 23:47 jojoa1997|Tablet make a layer where you can build and then add a lava level 23:47 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: that has no effect if you fly. 23:47 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae can you show me 23:47 jojoa1997|Tablet on redcrabs server 23:47 VanessaE I guess it's the speed of movement of falling objects, so maybe Exio's fix will help that too 23:47 NakedFury could it be possibly to negate noclip effect with a node/block?? 23:47 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: I don't remember where it was at. 23:48 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone got the video lynxx posted 23:48 jojoa1997|Tablet i need to find it 23:48 Exio VanessaE: yep, i was thinking about that 23:48 Exio from "0" to -30000... would be... very fast 23:48 jojoa1997|Tablet me has to try it 23:48 Exio (if the server can handle the "mapblocks" loaded in ram 23:48 VanessaE Exio: in which case, maybe just give that a try. A little worldedit will help in making the mineshaft of course 23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make a mod 23:49 VanessaE see what happens if you cut a full 31km deep shaft, drop a few things down in it, and follow them down 23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet that digs a map chunk length down 23:49 jojoa1997|Tablet idea 23:50 Exio well, my client is still 23:50 Exio "jumping" in the trampolines 23:50 Exio VanessaE: the patch seems to work :P 23:50 VanessaE how long has it been cycling? 23:50 Exio 15~ minutes 23:50 VanessaE that's... long enough :) 23:51 VanessaE I'd say that bug is fixed. 23:51 Exio and my console (i have a weird build here outside the "dev" tree where i try the patches - with the lastest git or nearly the lastest) 23:51 VanessaE now to attack the mineshaft/bottom-of-the-world question :) 23:52 VanessaE I'd really *really* like to see my "hard iron" idea (e.g. bedrock) implemented during the 0.4.7 cycle 23:52 VanessaE (with or without jojoa1997's magma idea, I don't care too much either way about that 23:53 Exio just reach 700 legit with 40~50 seconds jumping in trampolines 23:53 Exio 800! 23:53 VanessaE 700? 23:53 VanessaE what, speed? 23:53 NakedFury vanessa that would act as bedrock? not to be mined or crafted or giveme to players? 23:53 Exio VanessaE: the "m_speed" values 23:53 Exio err, speed_f, the stuff what is caped 23:53 VanessaE NakedFury: correct - "hard iron" would be an impervious, indestructable, dark block in an rusty iron color, two meters deep, at the bottom of the world. 23:54 VanessaE a/an /a / 23:54 NakedFury I like it 23:54 VanessaE Exio: excellent. 23:54 Exio a: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 - s: 979.712585 0.000000 0.000000 23:54 VanessaE NakedFury: because I hate the term "bedrock" as used in minecraft - it's stupid. 23:54 NakedFury we need a way to remove the possibility of crashing servers if players reach that far 23:54 Exio aand this got bored :P 23:54 VanessaE NakedFury: I think exio just did. 23:55 NakedFury good exio good 23:55 VanessaE Exio: It's safe to say the trampolines aren't going to crash your client :) 23:55 Exio only 1 of the 100 ways of the crash the server! 23:55 Exio now to hunt the other 99? 23:55 VanessaE lol 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet WHAT!?!?!? 23:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant have fun on trampolines anymore 23:59 Exio hahaha 23:59 * Kacey is going to play some legit build for a while. anyone want to join?