Time Nick Message 00:00 mauvebic figures they would dump american mobsters in our waters :P (kidding) 00:00 rarkenin No, that refers to New York City. I'm three hours from there. 00:02 mauvebic meh im an hour north of montreal, which is where that kinda stuff goes down lol 00:04 mauvebic though theyll be building a new bridge soon, concrete foundations are usually another good spot to hide bodies lol 00:06 mauvebic though back to fences/rock-climbing, how about grip? like the ability to grip sides and climb slowly 00:07 mauvebic along with crouch for 1 node high tunnels, that would be cool 00:20 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Add missing recipes for diamond and mese sword and axe f37e7e176d 2013-03-28T17:19:07-07:00 http://git.io/-49N3Q 00:26 NekoGloop all mods will be written in Flash. 00:30 rarkenin Yeah, crouch and climbing could be useful. Requires client changes though to get more map node definition data. Could also be used in conjuction with wielding a tool with groups like suction, sticky, sharp. 00:33 mauvebic well crouch shouldn't be too dificult, its basically laying the player on his stomach as opposed to standing up to go down 1m wide sewers 00:33 mauvebic a hack would be to change the collision box 00:44 jordan4ibanez I wish that the player physics update included block friction 00:47 rarkenin Can someone try to export my messed up mesh properly? It renders correctly in Blender but when in Minetest, the animations aren't even running at the same frames as given in player.lua. 00:53 jordan4ibanez they are 00:54 jordan4ibanez you messed up something in the init.lua 00:54 jordan4ibanez check again 00:56 rarkenin I did not add an init.lua. I simply overwrote player.x 00:56 rarkenin This is a test system. 01:32 Kacey hi ShadowNinja 01:33 ShadowNinja hi 01:41 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79700#p79700 01:53 * ShadowNinja looks at Jeijas entry 01:54 ShadowNinja that is realy neat, and another reason for the download pull 01:56 kaeza sfan5, post fixed: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73067#p73067 01:57 kaeza please delete: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79498#p79498 02:12 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/ddu0nLh.jpg 02:14 jordan4ibanez That was the only thing I could think of 02:23 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/96Fli1BHb-Q 02:23 Tecan (96Fli1BHb-Q) "Minetest- ModPack[coming soon] - THE MONSTER" by "313hummer" is "Games" - Length: 0:06:04 02:23 jordan4ibanez tecan 02:23 jordan4ibanez I'm gettin real sick of your shiz tecan 02:25 Tecan hmm ? 02:26 jordan4ibanez No tecan, go back to being a bot 02:26 Tecan y ? 02:26 jordan4ibanez Tecan, relax, you've become self aware, just calm down 02:31 * Tecan smokes a bowl then opens minetest 02:33 Kacey O.o 02:33 Kacey wtf just happened? 02:33 jordan4ibanez That's not good for your circuits tecan 02:34 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: sure it is. it'll just slow down his clock a bit, making him cool off a little 02:34 VanessaE which is always good for electronics :) 02:34 Kacey win 02:37 jordan4ibanez Maybe 02:38 jordan4ibanez instead of a complex series of things, minetest could just scan the chunk, to scan for non air blocks, then check above it if it's air, then the block is the surface, and the node you want to add to the surface is added 02:38 jordan4ibanez how big is a chunk? 02:38 Exio chunk_size in the .conf 02:38 Kacey 16*16 believe is default 02:39 jordan4ibanez Wow, I think I said something intelligent 02:39 VanessaE a chunk is 80x80x80. 02:39 VanessaE a mapblock is 16x16x16 02:40 jordan4ibanez which generates? a chunk or a mapblock? 02:40 VanessaE mapblocks, but they're generated in chunk-sized sections. 02:40 jordan4ibanez what does on_generated use? 02:40 VanessaE register_on_generated acts on chunks I believe 02:40 jordan4ibanez hmm this could be very interesting 02:41 jordan4ibanez If this acts how I think it does, we could be in business for faster surface node generation 02:42 Exio ok 02:42 Exio i just pressed random keys 02:42 Exio and the world name is in use 02:43 eldiablo hello 02:43 jordan4ibanez YOU FAIL! 02:43 jordan4ibanez hi eldiablo 02:43 eldiablo I need help. I cant seem to run the TNT mod 02:43 eldiablo Is Pilzadam around? 02:44 kaeza eldiablo, what problem are you encountering? 02:44 jordan4ibanez outdated client 02:44 eldiablo The problem is an init.lua error. 02:44 kaeza eldiablo, have you tried renaming the folder to just 'tnt'? 02:45 eldiablo kaeza: negatory 02:45 kaeza do so then :) 02:48 Kacey afk 02:52 jordan4ibanez Brain fart 02:52 eldiablo are there any servers with tnt 02:53 jordan4ibanez what is it called, a number no matter how far from 0 on a number line, it can either be negative or positive and you still write it as positive 02:53 kaeza absolute? 02:53 jordan4ibanez thank you 02:53 kaeza welcome 02:56 Tecan the boats are really buggy 02:56 eldiablo are there any servers with TNT? 02:56 eldiablo ??? 02:56 Tecan the idea is to create things that last 03:01 eldiablo Tecan:Art is short and sweet, as Deidara once said 03:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Holy cow 03:04 jojoa1997|Tablet I'm gone for a day and I check the mod release section and there are new posts all the way to page 2 03:04 VanessaE I haven't even read the whole of the forums today, just a couple of select threads 03:05 VanessaE holy shit 03:05 VanessaE 4 pages of new posts!?! 03:05 kaeza sfan's spambot 03:05 kaeza lol J/K 03:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah 03:06 jojoa1997|Tablet It should be the modders job to check not the spammers 03:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Anything new I have been gone all day at SeaWorld 03:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Vanessae you know it right? 03:07 VanessaE never been there. 03:07 kaeza I have been all day at DreamWorld 03:07 VanessaE as for new posts, I'm just now opening tabs 03:07 Exio I don't even have dreams :( 03:07 VanessaE celeron55: can you *please* add an "open all new posts in tabs" function? 03:08 kaeza a global RSS feed would be better 03:09 eldiablo kaeza: init.lua error persists 03:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Vanessa 03:09 VanessaE hj? 03:09 VanessaE hm? 03:09 jojoa1997|Tablet A change poll option would be nice 03:09 kaeza eldiablo, can you pastebin the error? 03:09 jojoa1997|Tablet I have had that stupid poll in my npc topic for a long time now 03:10 eldiablo kaeza: will imgur the error 03:10 VanessaE celeron55: let me rephrase that - open all threads with new posts in new tabs. 03:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Yay my mods didn't get spambotted 03:11 VanessaE hopefully none of mine did either 03:11 eldiablo kaeza: here http://imgur.com/VhyYUqc 03:12 kaeza eldiablo, that does not help at all 03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet I don't think they did 03:12 kaeza eldiablo, do something: 03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Anything new added to mcommon or minetest? 03:12 kaeza go to your minetest folder and delete debug.txt 03:13 kaeza restart the game and as soon as it shows the error close it 03:13 kaeza now pastebin the last few lines of debug.txt (the section that reads "LUA ERROR") and post link here 03:14 eldiablo kaeza: no debug.txt present? 03:14 eldiablo kaeza: using windows version of Minetest. 03:15 kaeza eldiablo, open minetest.conf in notepad, and try to find a line that says debug_log_level= 03:15 kaeza or smth like that 03:16 eldiablo kaeza: cannot find a minetest.conf 03:17 jordan4ibanez it does work, but it's incredibly slow http://i.imgur.com/RiVGFd5.jpg 03:18 eldiablo kaeza: found it sorry what to do with debug log level? 03:18 kaeza set it to debug_log_level=4 03:18 kaeza and do as I said 03:19 eldiablo kaeza: what should I do 03:19 kaeza go to your minetest folder and delete debug.txt 03:19 kaeza restart the game and as soon as it shows the error close it 03:20 kaeza and pastebin the last few lines of debug.txt (the section that reads "LUA ERROR") and post link here 03:20 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol 03:20 jojoa1997|Tablet What did I do? I have no idea http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79259#p79259 03:22 eldiablo kaeza: says it fails to run the init.lua for tnt 03:22 * VanessaE considers adding snow mod to her server... 03:22 VanessaE (snow biomes I mean) 03:22 kaeza ...I know that... but we need the actual error message to know what went wrong 03:22 jojoa1997|Tablet No 03:22 jojoa1997|Tablet Yes 03:22 jojoa1997|Tablet Maybe 03:22 jojoa1997|Tablet Idk 03:23 VanessaE luajit makes it + moretrees (with beeches replacing default trees) fast enough to be useable :-) 03:23 eldiablo kaeza: says there is no such file or directory as init.lua in the tnt folder... 03:24 kaeza eldiablo, is there a subfolder named 'tnt' or something? 03:24 eldiablo kaeza: not to my knowledge, 03:27 eldiablo kaeza: it worked thanks bro 03:27 kaeza okay, I guess 03:27 kaeza welcome 03:27 jordan4ibanez Wow 03:28 kaeza eldiablo, by any chance, do you speak spanish? 03:29 eldiablo kaeza: no bro 03:29 kaeza ah ok... just asking :) 03:29 eldiablo kaeza: I speak urdu hindi and punjabi though :D 03:30 kaeza hehe 03:30 eldiablo kaeza: ok take care bro 03:30 kaeza you too 03:34 Kacey back 03:36 VanessaE I wonder if sfan5's bot spamming the mod releases forum like it did can be considered as necroposting in some of the older, almost-outdated threads :) 03:36 VanessaE (i.e if it's a bot, does it count?) 03:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Cough cough annoying not protection not working 03:41 jordan4ibanez minetest didn't release the port it was on 03:41 jordan4ibanez wtf 03:51 VanessaE maybe the server half is hung 03:52 jojoa1997|Tablet Someone say something 03:53 VanessaE something. 04:01 jordan4ibanez I think I successfully created a flower generator lol 04:02 jordan4ibanez Happy accident 04:06 jordan4ibanez kind of strange http://i.imgur.com/ojkas0u.jpg but very fast 04:11 jojoa1997|Tablet ?.? 04:12 VanessaE gevalt! 04:12 kaeza ? 04:12 VanessaE I am somehow reminded of an episode of Star Trek:TOS. 04:13 VanessaE (the one with the explosive rocks, and the computer named Vaal) 04:13 * jojoa1997|Tablet needs a good android game 04:13 VanessaE The Apple. 04:13 VanessaE that was the name 04:13 VanessaE [03-29 00:06] kind of strange http://i.imgur.com/ojkas0u.jpg but very fast 04:13 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^ 04:14 kaeza what the... 04:14 jojoa1997|Tablet spam spam SPAM 04:14 kaeza BATMAN! 04:14 kaeza ah no 04:19 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#oGUmfw8J 04:19 VanessaE lol 04:22 kaeza hah 04:23 ShadowNinja sfan5: how did you change the phenny command prefix from . to !? 04:23 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam 04:23 jojoa1997|Tablet and he isnt here 04:24 kaeza http://www.explosm.net/comics/2030/ 04:27 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#gkh8GfZk 04:29 jojoa1997|Tablet should we add farming and carts o default 04:30 ShadowNinja farming yes, carts maybe not 04:31 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah relized cats are buggy 04:36 kaeza NekoGloop is buggy? 04:36 NekoGloop me-bzzt-ow 04:36 kaeza lol 04:50 jordan4ibanez version 2 of flower generation 04:50 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/JzC2s2e.jpg 04:52 jojoa1997|Tablet Now we just need a lot of fire 04:52 jordan4ibanez You can generate fire and lava with this lol 04:54 kaeza where is the most recent version of worldedit located? 04:55 VanessaE https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/ 04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh cool an Armageddon mod 05:00 kaeza VanessaE, thanks :) 05:00 VanessaE np 05:01 VanessaE you're lagging again ;) 05:01 kaeza I won't blame my modem this time :P 05:01 VanessaE lol 05:07 Kacey night all 05:07 VanessaE night 05:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Bed time flor me toó night everyone 05:09 kaeza nite 05:09 VanessaE night 05:16 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#RLYXeE9J 05:16 VanessaE that's just...ill 05:17 jordan4ibanez I DID IT 05:17 jordan4ibanez I FUCKING DID IT 05:17 jordan4ibanez Third try! 05:17 VanessaE you did? well then off to jail with you 05:17 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/YX0CBZz.jpg 05:18 jordan4ibanez I finally created a fast way to find the surface of a chunk (basically) 05:18 VanessaE you should have looked at how I did it in plants_lib 05:19 VanessaE basically, find_nodes_in_area(chunk minp, chunk maxp, "default:dirt_with_grass"); iterate through the returned list checking for air above each position. 05:19 jordan4ibanez This isn't 100% complete 05:20 jordan4ibanez it scans the center of the chunk for the tallest node, then generates from the bottom up and saves cpu not trying to do the rest 05:20 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/MhQWdLN.jpg 05:20 jordan4ibanez Look at dem flowers 05:21 VanessaE my way takes advantage of the fact that grass will only ever appear adjacent to air :-) 05:21 VanessaE (or with the occasional plantlike object such as junglegrass) 05:21 jordan4ibanez nice, version 4 will get 100% of the surfaces, but it will be the slowest 05:22 jordan4ibanez I wrote an api, which contains the versions, fastest to slowest 05:25 VanessaE No one has good, fast surface-finding algorithm in game | Writes fastest possible one | Everyone keeps writing their own slower ones | :forever alone: 05:25 VanessaE :) 05:27 kaeza VanessaE, IKR 05:27 kaeza everybody complauns that there's no dangers for survival gameplay | unifies hunger, drowning, thirst | no one cares 05:27 kaeza -u+i 05:28 VanessaE yup 05:28 jordan4ibanez AHA! 05:28 jordan4ibanez this one gets the surface 100% of the time with minimum lag! 05:28 jordan4ibanez Holy crap 05:28 jordan4ibanez It actually works 05:32 jordan4ibanez for me http://i.imgur.com/FhOuKNh.jpg THIS adds on 2-5 seconds per chunk generated or mapblock or whatever 05:32 jordan4ibanez the chunk on the left was generated with version 3 05:33 jordan4ibanez it scans the top, until it meets a block, then works it's way up from the bottom of the chunk to find surface 05:34 jordan4ibanez Who wants to try it? :] 05:34 kaeza jordan4ibanez, 2-5 secs/chunk == meh, 2-5 secs/mapblock == bad 05:35 jordan4ibanez kaeza: I was getting that while recording, I closed bandicam and it only adds on 1-2 seconds per whatever generated 05:36 kaeza jordan4ibanez, lemme compile again and will test that 05:37 kaeza BTW, what CPU? 05:37 jordan4ibanez Okay! 05:37 jordan4ibanez amd athlon ii x2 05:37 jordan4ibanez but with other terrain gen mods, it takes 20-50 seconds to do the same things 05:37 jordan4ibanez per chunk 05:37 kaeza intel dual core 05:37 jordan4ibanez I didn't even know this was possible 05:37 kaeza e5700 I think 05:38 kaeza you should compare to plants_lib 05:40 jordan4ibanez Hang on I'm writing the mod article 05:40 jordan4ibanez topic* 05:40 VanessaE I've never benckmarked the placement code, but the search code only takes about 1 second per chunk or some such, without luajit 05:41 VanessaE with luajit I couldn't even begin to guess 05:41 VanessaE (2.8 GHz box here) 05:50 us_0gb That's a lot of flowers ... 05:53 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#DDJgjwIl 05:53 VanessaE WIN! 05:54 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79732 05:55 jordan4ibanez us_0gb I know! It's crazy! 05:59 us_0gb Does it work on the latest stable, or require the dev version? 06:00 jordan4ibanez I'm using the latest stable I think 06:00 jordan4ibanez all it uses is on_generate so it should run fine 06:01 us_0gb The ad gives you a choice of Windows, Windows, Windows, or other. But if you click other, it still gives you an .exe. 06:01 jordan4ibanez then just click download lol 06:02 us_0gb Yeah, I did. But why say other it's still Windows? Foolish ad. 06:07 jordan4ibanez Well goodnight peoples 06:22 alex256 the minetestc55_201303290104-0~2024~precise1_i386.deb for ubuntu works great in puppy linux! Awesome job developers! love the already added server list btw... 06:22 us_0gb The Linux packages were added back now? Sweet! 06:23 alex256 4 hours ago 06:23 us_0gb Better late than never. I was worried that Linux was being dropped as a priority. 06:24 alex256 hope not 06:25 alex256 i like puppy 5.5 better than any other linux distribution i have tried so far... 06:26 us_0gb I haven't had time to try it yet. 06:26 alex256 its freaking fast! 06:26 us_0gb I'd like to try as many as I can, but am a busy guy. 06:26 kaeza puppy 5.5 is out? 06:26 alex256 tyes 06:26 alex256 yes 06:26 kaeza gosh... I'm stuck in 5.2.5 06:26 alex256 sorry for the t ...its a gaming habit... 06:27 VanessaE too much minetest ;) 06:27 us_0gb Yeah. I do it too. 06:27 kaeza lol happens ofter here 06:27 kaeza often 06:27 alex256 yea i did a frugal install on a fat 32 runs sweet! 06:28 us_0gb FAT32? Ugh. Case sensitive. 06:28 alex256 i am used to it 06:28 us_0gb *insensitive 06:28 alex256 tlol 06:28 us_0gb I'm tired. 06:28 alex256 the puppy saves are not fat 32 though 06:29 kaeza us_0gb, under Puppy everything is stored in a compressed 3fs image 06:29 us_0gb Does Puppy have a case sensitive file system option? If not, I already know it's not for me without trying it. 06:29 alex256 i like grub for dos better than grub 2 06:29 us_0gb Oh, so it has cas sensitivity on a case insensitive file system? 06:29 us_0gb *case 06:29 kaeza yep 06:30 us_0gb Okay. I take bake my remarks then. 06:30 kaeza only when accessing the real disk you are in a case insensitive system 06:30 us_0gb Why is it on an insesnistive disc? 06:31 kaeza because frugal install :) 06:31 alex256 i knowi have a piece of crap comp running like champ....thats all that matters to me. 06:31 kaeza it allows you to "install" puppy along with Windows 06:32 alex256 lol i dont even have windows on my computer 06:32 kaeza alex256, IKR :) 06:32 kaeza Intel Celeron @333MHz w/160 MB of RAM 06:32 kaeza and a 4GB disk 06:32 alex256 tbut iwidows sucks haven't used it since i figured out linux...now i am never going back 06:32 us_0gb Yeah, I'd love to erase Windows, but I need it this term for school. But the terms almost up. Then I can erase it. 06:33 us_0gb I was never a Windows user. I used to be a Mac user, before I tried Linux. 06:33 alex256 ahh microsoft word ehh 06:34 alex256 unix is the boss 06:34 us_0gb No. I use LibreOffice. 06:34 alex256 for school? 06:35 us_0gb Yeah, I use LibreOffice for school. 06:36 us_0gb One of my cources next term is no Linux administration though. 06:37 us_0gb Unfortunately, it's a Windows-based school, and sees Linux as not viable for anything but servers ... 06:37 us_0gb So it's going to be mostly server-related probably. 06:41 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#2GFuk3Pt 06:41 us_0gb Okay. That's odd. 06:41 VanessaE hey wait a second here.. 06:42 VanessaE didn't we agree a while back that non-free no-derivs licenses were not welcome in Mod Releases? 06:42 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5259 06:45 kaeza VanessaE, according to j4i, he "will relicense after it's done" 06:46 kaeza Also, us_0gb, http://ifunny.mobi/#lOcRpB9J 06:46 us_0gb So does that mean it should be moved back untill then? 06:46 us_0gb Remove the Apple, and that's me! 06:46 VanessaE dunno, no other forum mods are around to give opinions on it 06:47 us_0gb I'm not pro-Apple or pro-Linux, just anti-Windows. 06:51 us_0gb http://ihatewindowsblog.blogspot.com/ 06:51 us_0gb ... Outlook ... 07:30 celeron55 VanessaE: i don't want to try to learn how to do things in punbb 07:31 VanessaE *shrug* ok 07:44 sfan5 ShadowNinja: https://github.com/sbp/phenny/blob/master/phenny#L140 07:49 ShadowNinja Thanks 09:32 markveidemanis HI 09:32 us_0gb Hello. 09:34 markveidemanis In python, how do i remove all instances of a character in a variable of list? 09:35 markveidemanis look at my IRC client: http://pastie.org/7159793 09:35 us_0gb I'm not sure I understand. Is this a list of single characters, and you are removing all instances of one? 09:36 BOTUSER Hello! 09:36 us_0gb Hello. 09:36 markveidemanis yes, in the response of IRC, it says: ---@freenode*76d9d69*987d97fd987f.sddd(somemoreshit) 09:36 markveidemanis I need to remove all that, ive done it but need a simpler way 09:37 markveidemanis PM the bot and il tell you what it says 09:37 us_0gb You could iterate over the list. There's a better way than that, but I haven't used Python in ages, so I goget how to do it. 09:38 markveidemanis :us_0gb!~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #minetest 09:38 markveidemanis ( BOTUSER ) us_0gb: test message 09:38 markveidemanis :us_0gb!~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG BOTUSER :test message 09:38 markveidemanis Uh-oh: i got a PING, what do i do? 09:38 us_0gb I don't know. Sorry. 09:39 markveidemanis i need to reply PONG or i get disconnected 09:39 us_0gb What? 09:39 markveidemanis Can you come on #mtmt so i dont have to ... spam :D 09:40 thexyz umm.. 09:40 thexyz i see #mtmt spam 09:40 thexyz i ban 09:47 markveidemanis Hi 09:47 markveidemanis I have a problem... 09:48 markveidemanis do i use var.find or if "" in var 10:38 markveidemanis If Apple made a car, would it have Windows? 10:40 us_0gb It would have windows, but not Windows. 10:41 us_0gb After all, OS X does have application windows. 10:55 markveidemanis Get the joke !!! :P 11:55 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:55 markveidemanis Hi 11:55 markveidemanis Can you help with python? 11:56 PilzAdam this is the wrong channel 11:56 markveidemanis Im not asking for help, i need YES/NO 11:56 rubenwardy hi all 12:02 kaeza hi ruben 12:11 markveidemanis IT WORKS!!!!! 12:11 markveidemanis sfan5: how do i get him out now? 12:11 markveidemanis I want him to leave but stay on freenode 12:12 sfan5 PART 12:12 markveidemanis k 12:12 sfan5 e.g. PART #minetest 12:12 markveidemanis can i have more that 1 if statement under an else? 12:13 sfan5 yes 12:13 sfan5 just do: 12:13 sfan5 if abc: 12:13 sfan5 ... 12:13 sfan5 elif def: 12:13 sfan5 ... 12:13 rarkenin In what language? Python? C++ proprocessor #if's? 12:13 sfan5 python 12:13 rarkenin C++ itself? ASM? Brainf*ck? 12:13 rarkenin Oh, OK. 12:14 sfan5 if's in brainfuck are a bit tricky 12:15 proller fuuuthon 12:15 markveidemanis !part #minetest 12:16 markveidemanis shit i did PRIVMSG instead of PART 12:17 markveidemanis !part minetest 12:17 markveidemanis !part #minetest 12:17 markveidemanis HOORAY !!!!!!! 12:30 BOTUSER hello 12:30 BOTUSER i 12:31 markveidemanis shit... 12:31 markveidemanis I need to send all after the '!msg' 12:33 BOTUSER It-ONLY_Sends-the-first-word-of-the-message 12:33 BOTUSER how-do-i-fix-this-? 12:33 markveidemanis if "!msg" in message and nick == "markveidemanis": 12:33 markveidemanis s.send("PRIVMSG "+message.split()[1]+" "+message.split()[2]+"\n") 12:34 markveidemanis I see the mistake 12:34 markveidemanis but i dont know the correct replacement 12:35 kaeza s.send("PRIVMSG "+message.split()[1]+" "+message.split()[2:]+"\n") 12:36 sfan5 kaeza: you can't do "some text " + ["some", "array"] 12:37 kaeza well... my python skills are not good :P 12:37 markveidemanis i can get the bot to message people now 12:38 markveidemanis kaeza i sent 'hello test' 12:38 markveidemanis it crashed 12:39 markveidemanis cannot concatenate str and list 12:39 sfan5 WHAT DID I JUST SAY 12:39 sfan5 geez! 12:40 markveidemanis can you correct it? 12:40 markveidemanis : = str(:) ??? 12:40 sfan5 i won't 12:40 sfan5 you said you will get further without help 12:42 markveidemanis I did not say that 12:42 sfan5 but-the-thing-is-i-got-there-and-will-do-so-in-the-future-without-help 12:42 markveidemanis its not me though is it? 12:42 sfan5 don't lie to me 12:42 sfan5 its your bot that is under your control, so.. 12:43 markveidemanis if len(message.split()) < 2: 12:43 markveidemanis None 12:43 markveidemanis thats the problem 12:45 markveidemanis message.replace(" ", "-" FIXED IT 12:47 Jordach markveidemanis, my server is now operative 12:48 markveidemanis I need to go as soon i have fixed the auto bot 12:48 Jordach who, Optimus Prime or Bumblebee 12:49 kaeza lol 12:49 markveidemanis kaeza i sent ' hello there kaeza' 12:49 markveidemanis gtg byr 12:49 markveidemanis bye 12:49 Jordach i could probably make my own Python IRC Client in a day 12:59 sfan5 oh.. hai Jordach 12:59 Jordach sfan5, afternoon 12:59 * Jordach woke up about 12:30PM 13:12 Infinity_69 Hi 13:16 kaeza hello sparky 13:16 STHGOM hahah hello goodbye 13:27 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm 13:27 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.604ms) 13:27 Jordach dante123, is your school on easter holiday by chance? 13:27 dante123 yes 13:27 Jordach same here 13:27 dante123 but im sure kids will be in today 13:27 dante123 playing 13:27 Jordach anyways, i made my own server for building 13:28 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 13:28 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.308ms) 13:28 dante123 okay, well i might direct my daugher there to play....she likes to build 13:33 Jordach heres my bandwidth usage in the last hour for jordachscity http://94.249.200.2:5353/graphs/__client/__65281/_bandwidth_835e267069fbdf42e4c5f99897cfe811-786c39b23b6b7c9fa3f1dc5a675510ff.png 13:34 PilzAdam Jordach, how many players were on? 13:34 Jordach average of 2-3 clients 13:35 Jordach i have a 20MB line, so this can handle about 100 clients 13:42 Exio not found 13:45 Jordach Exio, they dont last long 13:45 Jordach Exio, http://94.249.200.2:5353/graphs/__client/__65281/_bandwidth_76b2dc1dd9e3e1d92bdd942f79843806-9bb69f81bfa3d3522e8a35c373a89b5e.png 13:48 Exio how is the hostname? 13:49 Jordach Exio, it works for all now 13:50 Jordach DNS has completely propagated 13:50 Jordach My server aims to be the first mega city spawl in Minetest, and also aims for the Guiness Gaming Book of REcords 13:51 Exio and what is the hostname, because i can't recall it? :P 13:51 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 13:51 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.388ms) 13:51 Exio ok, :P 13:51 onpon4 Hey, people have usually been having a hard time connecting to my server; you usually time out when you try, though I can connect just fine on the local network it's on. Can anyone think of why this would happen? 13:52 Exio do you have your router properly configured? 13:52 onpon4 Yes. The computer it's on has a local IP address of 192.168.2.2, and that's where port 30000 (both TCP and UDP) is being forwarded. 13:53 onpon4 It's not consistent; rarely, someone will successfully connect. 13:55 Jordach Exio, are you anton on jordachscity? 13:55 Exio nope 13:56 Exio i'm searching a clean -git release in my ~/ 13:56 onpon4 For example, right now I'm away from the local network. Yesterday (also away from the local network), I connected just fine, but just now, I waited a minute or so and cot no connection. 13:56 onpon4 *got 14:10 Exio meh, i will connect later 14:10 Exio too lazy for git clone other time (with this network it is 30~40 minutes downloading) 14:14 Jordach dante123, i do believe your client has timed out 14:17 sfan5 any beta testers for a musicd( http://tsundere.fi/musicd/ ) debian package? 14:17 Jordach i think tomorrow i might have a electro house night 14:19 beka !up jordachscity.tk 14:19 Jordach beka, your client disconnected, rejoin 14:19 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.403ms) 14:19 beka ok hang on....computer locked up for some reason 14:21 Jordach hey Traxie21|Kindle 14:21 Traxie21|Kindle *poke* 14:21 Traxie21|Kindle Hia 14:22 Traxie21|Kindle slow day? 14:23 Traxie21|Kindle Is there a way to tell minetest to look in a different directory for mods? 14:24 Traxie21|Kindle I talk too mich :I 14:24 Traxie21|Kindle *much lol 14:26 Traxie21|Kindle with this many people on IRC, I'd expect to not be the only one talking.... 14:27 Traxie21|Kindle hmm 14:27 Traxie21|Kindle Jordach, PilzAdam, VanessaE, kaeza, Taoki 14:27 Jordach yes 14:28 kaeza wha 14:28 Traxie21|Kindle you have your sound on XD 14:28 beka why a shut down 14:28 Jordach beka, installing new mods 14:29 beka ooooooh ok cool 14:29 Traxie21|Kindle kaeza, just testing who has their sound on :3 14:29 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, sound? 14:29 beka im putting my sound on in a sec 14:29 kaeza O_o 14:29 Traxie21|Kindle boop when your name is mentioned in IRC 14:30 PilzAdam Traxie21|Kindle, hm? 14:30 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, desktop notifications? taskbar flashing? 14:30 Traxie21|Kindle course, it could be several other things, but the sound always gets my attention 14:30 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, BTW, I don't jave sound on my IRC client lol 14:30 Traxie21|Kindle taskbar flashes? 14:30 kaeza -j+h 14:31 Traxie21|Kindle well, it was a fair guess 14:32 Jordach SERVER ONLINE IN 10 MINS 14:32 beka sweet 14:32 Traxie21|Kindle CityBuild? 14:32 beka yea 14:32 Traxie21|Kindle nice 14:32 beka well we are building a city 14:32 Traxie21|Kindle How long did it take to get your host1free server? 14:33 Traxie21|Kindle took like 2 weeks for mine 14:33 beka O_o 14:33 beka thats a long time 14:33 Traxie21|Kindle yea 14:34 Traxie21|Kindle chunkhost still hasnt gotten back to me XD 14:34 beka :O 14:35 Traxie21|Kindle Minetest seems really low RAM serverside 14:36 Traxie21|Kindle 128MB can handle 18+ players 14:37 Jordach Traxie21|Kindle, one day for me 14:37 Traxie21|Kindle lucky 14:38 Traxie21|Kindle do you have an auto-restart script? 14:38 beka what kind of mods are u installibng 14:38 Traxie21|Kindle without one, the server will shutdown when it runs out of RAM 14:39 beka :O:O:O:O:O 14:39 Traxie21|Kindle beka: MiniTest, ServerExtended, Slime, ButterCreepers, Blockmens mods, a couble of 0gb.ux's 14:40 beka how much longer till we play and COOOOOL 14:41 Traxie21|Kindle Jordach, is Unified inev installed? 14:41 Jordach nope 14:42 Traxie21|Kindle creative or survival? 14:42 Jordach ONLINE 14:42 beka :I 14:42 Traxie21|Kindle Shit, Im not going to work for hours... 14:43 beka ... 14:44 Traxie21|Kindle Jordach, what kind of city is it? is there a theme or plan? is it creative or survival? 14:44 Jordach creative 14:44 Jordach build till you dro 14:44 Jordach drop* 14:44 beka should we lvl out everything 14:44 beka for the city 14:44 Traxie21|Kindle beka, not thats boring 14:45 Traxie21|Kindle flow with the land 14:45 beka ok 14:45 beka just wondering 14:45 Traxie21|Kindle build roads first, then buildings 14:45 beka yea 14:46 Traxie21|Kindle make the roads kind of curvy at places, for atmosphere 14:46 beka how many buildings and what are they goona be 14:46 Traxie21|Kindle 14:47 beka should we put up signs to lable were we are putting each building??? 14:47 Traxie21|Kindle idk 14:47 Traxie21|Kindle Lol, I'm not the directpr, I'm just bored 14:47 beka same 14:47 Traxie21|Kindle *director 14:48 Jordach beka, its common sense, and the server is now online again 14:48 Traxie21|Kindle Ask Jordach 14:50 Traxie21|Kindle luh, looah, looh, looa, lowah, louah, How do you pronounce LUA? 14:50 Jordach loo-uh 14:50 beka idk 14:50 Traxie21|Kindle kape 14:52 Traxie21|Kindle How does lua pronounce you? 14:52 Jordach like this: 1001010011101010101110110010010010011111101010001010101 14:52 beka idk 14:52 kaeza Traxie21|Kindle, loo-ah 14:53 IceCraft Hi 14:53 Jordach hey IceCraft 14:53 Jordach IceCraft, check my cloak :D 14:53 Traxie21|Kindle Hi FrozenArt! 14:53 kaeza lol 14:54 IceCraft Okay 14:55 Traxie21|Kindle Yako 14:55 Kray how about just lua 14:55 Traxie21|Kindle I am overbored 14:56 Traxie21|Kindle Joke------------*You are here-----------------------Punchline 15:03 rubenwardy hi all 15:04 Traxie21|Kindle hia 15:04 Jordach VanessaE, people are LOVING YOUR HOME DECOR MOD 15:17 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Don't replace existing nodes in singlenode mapgen b0f39da131 2013-03-29T08:15:49-07:00 http://git.io/tj0z4A 15:18 RealBadAngel people sings: hey! ho! 15:18 RealBadAngel ;) 15:18 RealBadAngel hi all 15:22 kaeza hey RBA 15:22 kaeza how's it going? 15:22 Jordach @Minetest JOIN jordachscity.tk (everybodies here!) 15:26 kaeza client crash :( 15:30 kaeza Jordach, I can haz interact? 15:32 Jordach NekoGloop, cmon down, were overdriving my server 15:32 NekoGloop Ah, sorry, I've got stuff to do 15:33 Jordach aw man 15:36 NekoGloop I'm actually trying to fix technical problems with my minecraft server. 15:37 NekoGloop Overnight it just went to hell. 15:37 NekoGloop The hardware seems to have just taken a shit on the server. 15:37 kaeza awww sorry Jordach. I'm having too much lag 15:43 sam__ beka here, switching computers..... 15:51 IceCraft Jordach it laggs a little bit. 15:58 Jordach IceCraft, that would be expecteed 15:58 Jordach expected* 16:02 Jordach sam__, tunnel is complete# 16:03 Jordach Construction of Palisades Mall under construction 16:14 Jordach shit 16:14 Jordach client died 16:19 Jordach sfan5, the use of the checkered obsidian indicates theres a major route 16:19 Jordach going through a building 16:21 * rubenwardy is making a terrain generator in scratch 16:21 rubenwardy because I can 16:22 Jordach rubenwardy, http://scratch.mit.edu/users/jordach 16:22 Jordach already beat you there 16:22 rubenwardy mine will be better 16:22 Jordach mine has biom,es 16:22 Jordach biomes* 16:23 rubenwardy mine has a character that walks on blocks, and the world scrolls 16:23 rubenwardy basically like territa or what ever it is called 16:25 rubenwardy It uses multi-dimensional lists 16:25 rubenwardy and so you can dig blocks 16:25 jordan4ibanez that'd be cool rubenwardy 16:25 jordan4ibanez just set mapgen aliases to nothing 16:25 rubenwardy and it knows where every block is 16:26 rubenwardy lol, all air 16:27 rubenwardy at the moment my actual generator is just sin(position)+5 16:27 rubenwardy but I will be adding a real biome generator when I finish doing the player 16:27 rubenwardy anyways... 16:29 jordan4ibanez So I was thinking and thinking and thinking 16:29 jordan4ibanez I created a way to super optimize mapgen 16:29 jordan4ibanez not mapgen, surface node generation 16:31 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/ScratchMapGen_1.png 16:31 rubenwardy takes 1 second to render from scratch 16:31 hmmmm i have found the cure for world hunger: http://i.imgur.com/qjjlkGm.gif 16:32 PilzAdam rubenwardy, it seems like the overlaying of the grass doesnt support alpha channel 16:32 rubenwardy yeah 16:32 hmmmm mannnnn where is calinou when we need him 16:33 PilzAdam hmmmm, do you have a high res version of this? :-) 16:33 hmmmm lol 16:37 rubenwardy Mapgen for screen size: 8 secs. 16:37 rubenwardy Rendering from scratch: 1 sec. 16:37 rubenwardy DrawQueue: 0.1 sec. 16:37 rubenwardy EditQueue: 0.1 sec. 16:37 rubenwardy any news? 16:38 rubenwardy (Jordach's one takes 12 seconds to mapgen) 16:38 jordan4ibanez can I do a for statement from a higher to lower number? 16:38 rubenwardy language? 16:39 rubenwardy for(int a=10;a>0;a--){} 16:39 rubenwardy in c++/c 16:40 jordan4ibanez lua......................dot................ 16:40 PilzAdam for i=10,5,-1 do 16:41 jordan4ibanez Okay I was just wondering if it was possible 16:44 jordan4ibanez pilzadam want to try my surface finder? Well in a couple minutes when I do some final tests 16:44 Jordach markveidemanis, come on down if you want 16:45 markveidemanis I have to fix this IRC bot im making 16:45 markveidemanis Would it be possible for a bot to control a minetest server with the IRC_commands mod? 16:48 jordan4ibanez also, pilzadam, what is the chunk size that on_generated uses? 16:48 jordan4ibanez 16x16? 16:50 PilzAdam the mapgenerator generates 5 blocks with 16x16x16 nodes each 16:50 PilzAdam so its 80x80x80 16:52 hmmmm it's 16^3 * chunksize^3 16:52 hmmmm you can set chunksize to anything you'd like, as long as it's greater than 0 16:53 hmmmm by default, it happens to be 5 16:53 hmmmm a larger chunksize will give you more clay thanks to the asstarded way clay generates in the default on_generate() 16:54 Jordach hmmmm, clay is rare enough, and some places need more 16:55 markveidemanis Can someone help with my python... 16:55 markveidemanis s.send("PRIVMSG "+message.split()[1]+" "+message.split()[2])+"\n" 16:55 PilzAdam markveidemanis, wrong channel 16:56 hmmmm should ask a girl to do that 16:56 markveidemanis it will be !msg + MESSAGE 16:56 markveidemanis I need the message to be more that 1 word 16:56 markveidemanis message.split()[so maybe have smth in here])+"\n" 17:02 markveidemanis Jordach 17:02 Jordach better 17:05 Jordach markveidemanis, concatenate words 17:07 jordan4ibanez bbl 17:13 rarkenin Is enable_rollback_recording = true enough to allow rollback? 17:14 PilzAdam yes 17:14 PilzAdam but it doesnt perform good 17:15 rarkenin OK. 17:18 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix last singlenode modification 5b854f95d2 2013-03-29T10:18:09-07:00 http://git.io/WYT1gg 17:20 Jordach bbiab 17:24 hmmmm http://ompldr.org/vaHhibw 17:24 hmmmm ...they had to put me in a pure white padded room with indestructable nodes... 17:25 hmmmm i'm CRAZY i tell ya 17:28 webdesigner97 hi 17:28 Kacey hi 17:30 webdesigner97 I just saw that there's a new page /extends.php occured on minetest.net :) 17:30 webdesigner97 *extend.php 17:32 webdesigner97 i like it ;) 17:32 hmmmm aand here we go http://ompldr.org/vaHhidQ 17:32 hmmmm FINISHED 17:32 hmmmm my first world in minecraft, ported over to minetest 17:33 webdesigner97 hi ruben! 17:33 celeron55 hmmmm: not bad 17:35 hmmmm yeah, and looking at the terrain a bit closer, i don't think they originally used *perlin* noise, or at least didn't smooth it out with easeCurve(), or something like that 17:37 rubenwardy hi 17:39 Jordach I WORKED OUT WHY THE NODE REPLACE BUG HAPPENDS 17:41 hmmmm jordach, why? 17:42 Jordach hmmmm, i spotted it on my server 17:42 Jordach you know node prediction 17:42 hmmmm yesssss 17:42 Jordach it happened, but node prediction stopped it 17:42 Jordach it seemingly realised it wasnt C_I 17:42 Jordach (content ignore) 17:42 hmmmm it's not because of content_ignore being buildable_to, i tried setting that to fault 17:42 hmmmm s/fault/false/ 17:42 hmmmm and it still happened 17:44 PilzAdam hmmmm, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/574 17:44 markveidemanis Can i run an IRC bot on andriod? 17:45 Jordach nope. 17:45 markveidemanis *Android... 17:45 hmmmm mmmm.... i'm telling you.... it's not buildable_to, i tried it already 17:45 hmmmm PilzAdam, did you verify that fix works? 17:45 PilzAdam nope 17:46 hmmmm this might work though because it doesn't do exactly the same thing 17:46 hmmmm i say we merge it and find out 17:46 bas080 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79863#p79863 17:46 PilzAdam can you merge it? im busy 17:47 hmmmm sure 17:47 Traxie21 Jordach: This is the script to be called by init.sh 17:47 Traxie21 http://pastebin.com/FCAghbx9 17:47 rarkenin Is there a reliable way we can test this? 17:47 hmmmm you just run around and place nodes underneath you like a madman 17:48 rarkenin The problem is pretty rare, and we risk missing it and releasing something stated to work. 17:48 Jordach Traxie21, whats disable unittests 17:48 Traxie21 not sure, but it seems to make the server faster :3 17:48 rarkenin Maybe develop a set of usecases? Or a setting to cause more such engine failures for testing? 17:49 Traxie21 Jordach: This is init.sh, which is what you should run 17:49 Traxie21 http://pastebin.com/f7bSxJdr 17:49 hmmmm --disable-unittests is necessary to run minetest in debug mode, for some reason something screwed up with the networking and it won't pass a unittest but it appears to not be a bug 17:49 hmmmm it doesn't make "the server faster" or anything 17:50 Jordach server down for maintainence 17:50 Traxie21 oke 17:50 markveidemanis Jordach... 17:51 markveidemanis Is it possible to make a bot for the IRC_COMMANDS mod that controls the server automatically? 17:53 Jordach Traxie21, so where do i stick em 17:53 Traxie21 Anywhere, as long as init.sh points to start.sh 17:53 VanessaE [03-29 11:04] VanessaE, people are LOVING YOUR HOME DECOR MOD 17:53 VanessaE Yep I know, I've been trying to make it good, and kaeza has been a great help in that regard. 17:53 Traxie21 and start.sh points to minetestserver 17:56 VanessaE afternoon all. 17:57 Kacey it's noon here 18:09 webdesigner97 hi again 18:09 mauvebic howdy 18:09 webdesigner97 I need some help with a nodebox I'm making... 18:09 Jordach Traxie21, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658865/ 18:09 webdesigner97 Hope I can explain it: 18:10 webdesigner97 I made a nodebox, which consists of 4 boxes: 18:10 Jordach improved: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658871/ 18:10 Calinou of course 18:10 Calinou cd / 18:10 Calinou cd /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-master/bin 18:10 Calinou useless® 18:11 webdesigner97 {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,-0.4,0.5,0.5}, 18:11 webdesigner97 {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.5,-0.4}, 18:11 webdesigner97 {0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.4,0.5,-0.5}, 18:11 webdesigner97 {0.5,-0.5,0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.4} 18:11 Calinou "cd /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-master/bin" is an absolute path 18:11 Calinou so no need to cd / 18:11 webdesigner97 and now the last 2 ones aren't walkable while the first ones are walkable 18:11 hmmmm hey calinou, how are the ores coming? 18:11 Jordach so actually put that path in " " 18:12 webdesigner97 maybe I should give you an image about what I mean... 18:13 Calinou webdesigner97: you went backwards 18:13 Calinou it's a glitch :P and a nicely exploitable one 18:13 Calinou always go forwards in nodebox defs 18:13 Calinou eg. from 0, 0, 0 to 0.5, 0.5, 0.5 18:13 Calinou not the inverse 18:13 webdesigner97 oh 18:14 webdesigner97 ok, I'll try to fix it :D 18:14 Calinou hmmmm: I'll make a separate version of moreores for those using git 18:14 Calinou we need a way to detect current minetest version :( 18:15 hmmmm yea about that 18:15 hmmmm can we tell if a certain node is registered already? 18:15 mauvebic registered_nodes 18:15 rubenwardy PilzAdam, Jordach, jordan4ibanez: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/ScratchMapGen_2.png 18:15 hmmmm exactly 18:16 hmmmm so we check if the ore node is registered already 18:16 hmmmm if it is, then it must be a new version, so don't bother adding those ores 18:16 VanessaE there's another way... 18:16 PilzAdam Calinou, if minetest.registered_nodes["default:stone_with_gold"] then 18:16 webdesigner97 so what do I need to change in {0.4,0.5,-0.5,0.5,-0.5,0.5} ? :) 18:17 VanessaE aside from detecting the existence of a node, you can also look for the existence of a texture file for it, or do what I do with my homedecor doors and check for the existence of some random function that was added around the same time as the nodes. 18:17 mauvebic {0.4,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5} 18:17 mauvebic smaller numbwe 18:17 Calinou PilzAdam: haha 18:17 Calinou why not :P 18:17 mauvebic *smaller numbers first 18:18 VanessaE (right click to open detects the presence of some ore-related function I think it was) 18:18 webdesigner97 oh, smaller numbers first..... ok :D 18:20 webdesigner97 thx, now it works fine :) 18:21 sfan5 Jordach: is your server up again? 18:21 Jordach sfan5, no, im working on some bash so if the server dies, it keeps alive 18:22 VanessaE Jordach: while true; do sleep 1; minetestserver --blah --foo --bar ; done 18:22 us_0gb Sounds good. 18:22 VanessaE no need to overcomplicate it :-) 18:23 MinetestBot GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/minetest: Fix node replacement in not-quite-loaded chunks 02cbb58107 2013-03-29T11:18:51-07:00 http://git.io/EzdnbA 18:23 us_0gb YES!! 18:23 VanessaE sweet 18:24 VanessaE recompile! ---> 18:24 us_0gb Oh, I though that was pulled or something. It isn't. 18:24 Jordach how does one end a bash script 18:24 VanessaE Jordach: exit 0 18:24 VanessaE (or exit 1 if you want to signal an error) 18:24 Jordach VanessaE, heres the code; http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-290313-182440.php 18:25 us_0gb What was that announcement about my commit then, if it hasn't been accepted yet? 18:25 Jordach us_0gb, your pull request just got merged 18:25 Calinou it works :D 18:25 VanessaE us_0gb: someone probably cherry-picked it and merged it. 18:26 us_0gb When I go to Github, it says the pull request is still open though .... 18:26 Jordach VanessaE, is your code in bash form? 18:26 VanessaE Jordach: that little one-liner? that's valid bash, yes. 18:26 VanessaE I use something substantially similar on my own server. 18:26 Jordach does it have to be in the /bin/ folder of the server? 18:26 Calinou moreores now uses C++ ore gen when possible 18:26 Calinou faster :p 18:27 VanessaE and...new builds are up. 18:27 Jordach VanessaE, can you paste me that code? 18:27 Jordach for your dead app switch 18:27 us_0gb Okay. It looks like my code was pulld, but somehow, my pull request is still open ...? 18:27 Jordach someone forgot to close it 18:27 VanessaE Jordach: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5658919/ 18:28 Calinou people, please test the new moreores with git and 0.4.5 to see if it works 18:28 Calinou (and if the ores are not too common or too rare) 18:28 * Calinou feels like a modern ISP 18:28 us_0gb I thought is auto-cloesed. It always auto-closes when I accept pull requests. 18:28 * Kacey doesnt like the diamond update... 18:28 Calinou telling people to test stuff 18:28 VanessaE Calinou: deployed to my server. 18:29 us_0gb Oh, well. Might as well ignore the irrelevant, and close it myself. I hate that bug, and now it's gone. Yay! 18:29 celeron55 us_0gb: people don't tend to use github's features for merging pull requests 18:29 celeron55 github pollutes the commit history with merge commits 18:30 us_0gb Okay. How do they do it then? 18:30 celeron55 manually using git remote and git cherry-pick or rebase or so 18:30 celeron55 there are many ways 18:31 Jordach VanessaE, nano keeps inserting a newline for no damn good reason 18:31 celeron55 anything that ends up with your commit directly on top of the previous commits :P 18:31 Exio Jordach: -cxw 18:31 Exio (nano -cxw ) 18:31 Jordach just did that 18:32 Jordach the bash file is in DOS 18:32 VanessaE Jordach: bash doesn't care about newlines usually. 18:32 Exio tr -d '\r' script.bash.dos-end-of-lines > script.bash.unix-end-of-lines 18:32 Jordach unexpected end of file 18:32 Exio in that case, it is not about the \r\n 18:32 hmmmm hmm 18:32 Exio or the enters, it is just a "layer8" problem ;P 18:32 hmmmm us_0gb, do you have an email in particular you'd like to be contacted by? 18:33 us_0gb 0gb.us@0gb.us is fine. All my other email addresses dump into that account, anyway. 18:34 sfan5 thats the first mail i've seen that matches ([^@]+)@\1 18:35 us_0gb I know, right? Coolest. Address. Ever. 18:35 Jordach Exio, only one string may be given when deleting without squeezing repeats 18:36 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Update Credits tab c9135dee60 2013-03-29T11:35:35-07:00 http://git.io/F9Gt_A 18:37 Kacey ok i am looking through stuff and it occured to me. 18:37 Kacey PilzAdam is slowly making Minetest into MineCraft 18:37 hmmmm right, it's totally him and not anybody else 8) 18:37 VanessaE Jordach: my little script also has the advantage that I can `sudo killall minetestserver` from anywhere to restart it. 18:38 Kacey well everyone else is trying to make minetest individual 18:38 hmmmm it already is, minecraft doesn't have mese, silver, copper, bronze 18:38 Jordach it keeps writing it as DOS format 18:38 mauvebic no matter what changes are made to minetest_Game people will complain because theyve been used to it not changing at all over long periods :p 18:38 hmmmm the obsidian is a different (neater looking) texture 18:39 hmmmm instead of portals we have stargates 18:39 hmmmm etc. 18:39 VanessaE Jordach: weird. Still, it shouldn't matter 18:39 sfan5 Jordach: dos2unix 18:39 mauvebic i think where it gets a bit ridiculous is when a feature is so obivously a duplicate but we just change the name to make it look different lol 18:39 Kacey PilzAdam is the one who added diamond and gold (both mc ores) and made mese more rare (uugh) obsidian (which i am ok with) and other stuff like the cobble texture (i think) ans then he says he isnt copying mc 18:40 hmmmm minetest is clearly a minecraft clone 18:40 hmmmm that's how it was intended 18:40 mauvebic you have gold and diamonds in most games, MC didn't invent those :p 18:40 * sfan5 agrees with mauvebic 18:40 Calinou minetest is clearly a minecraft clone => finally someone admits it 18:40 hmmmm and yeah, adding a lot of the things we do isn't copying because it's so common 18:40 Calinou it's like saying minetest should be 4D because 3D is soo old 18:40 * Kacey is going to go play 0.4dev or something 18:41 hmmmm but in spirit it was intended to be a free minecraft, at least at the beginning 18:41 Jordach 1) We either remove PA's push ability 18:41 Jordach 2) WE monitor every new feature 18:41 Kacey The Cloud Background is another thing in common 18:41 hmmmm wow pilzadam is really unpopular :( 18:41 Calinou or enable hyperthreading to fix PA 18:41 Calinou hmmmm: just like pulseaudio :p 18:41 hmmmm yeah except poettering makes shit software 18:42 mauvebic people will get over it (or write mods to fix it back) 18:42 mauvebic lua changes are hardly permanent 18:42 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Update Credits tab 6731dbf994 2013-03-29T11:42:21-07:00 http://git.io/Dqc3nA 18:43 Calinou hmmmm: don't you use systemd? :P 18:43 us_0gb Calinou, did you write diamonds, or just moreores? 18:43 mauvebic im usually more concerned with engine changes since obviously alot of us can't reverse those if we dont like it 18:43 PilzAdam hmmmm, I dont care about these people, I make a good game, thats all 18:43 Calinou us_0gb: just moreores 18:43 v2px grep MinetestBot 18:43 v2px oops 18:43 Calinou hmmmm: his software is fine imo, just configure it properly 18:43 Calinou my opinion :) 18:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: wtf?! you already posted that a minute ago 18:43 sfan5 -- 18:44 sfan5 oh.. different commit hash 18:44 celeron55 lol poettering 18:44 hmmmm er 18:44 VanessaE um... 18:44 Calinou just noticed 18:44 hmmmm sfan, yeah i modified history 18:44 sfan5 i just noticed that 18:44 hmmmm i needed to change a hyphen to a dot, and it was well within 10 minutes 18:44 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Update Credits tab 3640c8c051 2013-03-29T11:43:47-07:00 http://git.io/88KGzw 18:44 sfan5 again? 18:45 hmmmm er yeah, i did it twice on accident. but whatever 18:45 v2px :D 18:45 hmmmm i amended it without adding the file 18:45 celeron55 do it once more, just because 18:45 hmmmm whatever it's FIXED 18:45 hmmmm calinou, i don't use systemd, systemd is ridiculous 18:46 hmmmm besides, systemd is linux-only 18:46 Jordach server online with repeating boot 18:46 sfan5 yay 18:46 Jordach i just /shutdown to test the water 18:47 Jordach it does work 18:47 Jordach HEHE 18:47 hmmmm so wait, minecraft has a cloud background? 18:48 hmmmm well, whatever.... the beauty of minetest is that if you don't like it, you can change it! 18:48 hmmmm don't like the new ores? 18:48 hmmmm remove the register_ore lines! 18:48 hmmmm don't like the cloud background? menu_clouds = false! 18:49 sfan5 Jordach: you have too many mods, minetest tries to generate all the inventory images and then crashes because it ran out of video memory 18:49 Jordach sfan5, huh? 18:49 Calinou hmmmm: don't like the game? delete it! 18:49 Calinou :P 18:49 sfan5 that happens when i try to join your server 18:50 hmmmm well i wouldn't go THAT far.... 18:50 * us_0gb is back 18:51 * us_0gb wishes his server would play nicely with its NIC 18:52 * sfan5 wishes some important person had a twitter account password that doesn't match .+ 18:53 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 18:53 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 18:53 us_0gb You want blank passwords? That sounds like a bad idea .... 18:54 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 18:54 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 18:54 * us_0gb checks public list 18:54 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 18:54 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.144ms) 18:55 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 18:55 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.138ms) 18:55 Jordach worldedit ONLINE 18:55 sfan5 ahh 19:10 Todolev hello 19:10 us_0gb Hello. 19:10 Todolev when i installed a texture pack how i enable this texture 19:11 us_0gb There's a line you need to add to minetest.conf. 19:11 us_0gb I forget what line, I'll look it up. 19:12 us_0gb texture_path = /path/to/texture/directory 19:12 us_0gb Make it point to wherever you installed the texture pack. 19:16 Todolev thanks 19:16 Todolev need test 19:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add different place sound for nodes 5e7e0347cd 2013-03-29T12:14:18-07:00 http://git.io/jLd2gw 19:20 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Add default place sound 4d95634e52 2013-03-29T08:56:18-07:00 http://git.io/T5B6UQ 19:22 PilzAdam proller, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79905#p79905 19:24 Kacey VanessaE, are you around? 19:25 PilzAdam when was the node replacement bug introduced? 19:25 PilzAdam before 0.4.5? 19:27 proller PilzAdam, how favoriteservers must work? where add to it button? 19:28 PilzAdam proller, what? 19:28 proller how to add server to favorites? without direct editing 19:28 PilzAdam just connect 19:29 PilzAdam (to any server) 19:29 proller ok 19:29 STHGOM bye 19:30 proller i think favorite list must be in path near minetest.conf 19:31 PilzAdam well, in my linux build everything works fine with the default settings, but in my win builds and in other peoples Linux builds it doesnt 19:33 us_0gb What doesn't work? 19:34 PilzAdam the file only contains the most recent connected server and the GUI doesnt show any entries 19:34 us_0gb Aside from client crashes, everything seems to work on my Linux build. 19:34 us_0gb Hmm. That is odd. 19:34 us_0gb And this is the latest Github version? 19:36 Kacey just added a craft for autocrafter 19:36 PilzAdam yea, a few commits before 19:37 PilzAdam but the last change in the code for it were by proller 19:37 VanessaE Kacey: uberi already did that. 19:37 VanessaE autocrafter has a recipe now. 19:37 Kacey of corse 19:37 Kacey i like mine though 19:38 Kacey course*^^ 19:40 us_0gb Does the file have the wrong permissions? 19:40 Kacey https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/pull/22 19:40 PilzAdam us_0gb, no, the most recent server is written correctly to it 19:40 VanessaE Kacey: your copy of pipeworks is out of date, and I've already got a recipe I want to use. 19:40 us_0gb Oh, right. 19:41 webdesigner97 guys, I need your opinion (just 1 min) 19:41 webdesigner97 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79908#p79908 19:41 us_0gb Those look nice. 19:42 VanessaE not bad, webdesigner97 but I don't think it should be red, and it should be nodebox-based. 19:42 VanessaE so that it has 'thickness'. 19:42 webdesigner97 it has nodeboxes 19:42 VanessaE oh wait 19:42 VanessaE you're right 19:42 webdesigner97 latest post :D 19:42 VanessaE couldn't see it initially, not enough contrast :) 19:43 webdesigner97 the red colour = rust ;) 19:43 VanessaE guess I'll have to update HDX then :-) 19:44 webdesigner97 if you want to :) The new version isn't released yet, but I expect to release it during the next week 19:44 Todolev VanessaE: hi vanessa 19:44 VanessaE hi 19:45 Jordach Todolev, since youre a fedora dev, make an OS that brings me the latest of cats 19:46 Todolev Jordach: im not fedora dev 19:46 Jordach im jokinh 19:46 Jordach joking 19:48 Todolev Jordach: i help in translation to spanish and publiciy 19:48 Todolev Jordach: publicity 19:50 Jordach sfan5, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-290313-195002.php 19:50 Jordach never go afk in front of me :P 19:50 sfan5 Jordach: :( 19:51 Jordach sfan5, no one did the joke yet, so im having first dibs 19:52 sfan5 *maximizes window* *runs out of memory* 19:56 Jordach sfan5, i even have more memory than you apparently 19:56 sfan5 ok, i won't be able to join your server in fullscreen mode 19:56 Calinou what server :P 19:56 Calinou hi 19:56 Jordach sfan5, i've just seen the most evil bug ever 19:56 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 19:56 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.242ms) 19:57 sfan5 ^ Calinou 19:58 Calinou :O on sunrisetest, I collide with slimes 19:58 Calinou ^ lots of potential 19:58 Calinou platforms/elevators 19:58 Calinou though elevators would probably need a fix to make them work upwards 19:59 Calinou heh, I spam walking sound when I'm on the slime 19:59 Calinou erm, it works 19:59 Calinou if I'm on the slime, I jump with it 19:59 Calinou not always though 20:06 sfan5 shit!shit! 20:06 sfan5 shit! 20:06 sfan5 Jordach: shut down your server! now! 20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet What? 20:06 sfan5 i accidently worldedit 20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet What is happening 20:06 us_0gb Hey, Jojoa. 20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Hi 20:07 VanessaE OH SHIT! 20:07 VanessaE :) 20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet What 20:07 * jojoa1997|Tablet confused 20:07 VanessaE sfan5: I hope he has backups 20:07 Calinou yep, jordach's server lagged out 20:07 Calinou sfan5: suggestion: add preventions for huge worldedits 20:07 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: shut it down before the command completes! 20:07 Calinou and timeout of selection maybe 20:07 VanessaE Jordach: ^^^^^ 20:07 Calinou (eg. no selection in 5 mins = timeout) 20:08 Calinou Jordach: spy's sapping your map :P 20:08 sfan5 its going to take some time until that accident is "completed" 20:08 VanessaE stupid tab complete 20:08 VanessaE do what I mean, not what I say damn it :) 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet I think there should be an multi player game with protections like us_0gb claim mod and better pvp 20:09 us_0gb My claims need engine changes before they become viable enough for a default game. 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Ping pong 20:09 PilzAdam hm? 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet So 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet I will be editing Minetest a lot to be more like minecraft 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet So you will see a giant pull request or I will send you a download of it 20:10 PilzAdam pull request is better 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet K 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet And 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet The Minetest mod will be completely redone due to changes I. Common 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Like mess is gold and the swords a will be redone 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Also I will redefine brass stuff to nothing 20:12 PilzAdam the plan is to not include default from common but do it all in the minitest mod 20:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah but 20:12 jojoa1997|Tablet You need dwfault 20:12 mauvebic so youre dropping common or ? 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet It is better to redefine not need stuff to nothing 20:13 mauvebic mintest > common? 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet I have idea 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Make a function to redefine useless stuff 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet I will close it 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Code 20:13 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, no, dont include default anymore 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet But 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet You need stairs with sefault 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Default 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Stairs needs defau 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet T 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Alao 20:14 PilzAdam just create an empty mod called default 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Mods will break 20:15 sfan5 !up jordachscity.tk 20:15 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.276ms) 20:15 jojoa1997|Tablet Easier to depend on defwult 20:15 PilzAdam I dont care much about mods 20:16 jojoa1997|Tablet Well I already coded a bunch 20:16 jojoa1997|Tablet So it will still use default 20:16 PilzAdam dependencies can be fixed by creating the empty mod called default 20:18 jojoa1997|Tablet No I already coded a bunch redefining default 20:18 sfan5 oh thank god! 20:18 sfan5 ..... 20:18 sfan5 jordachs server crashed while doing the big accident worledit operation 20:18 jojoa1997|Tablet Maybe next week but for now I am staying with this 20:18 sfan5 nothing happend to the world 20:19 sfan5 *calms down* 20:19 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, sure, nobody is in a hurry here 20:19 jojoa1997|Tablet OK also 20:19 jojoa1997|Tablet I am depending on plants_lib and flowers ,od 20:19 jojoa1997|Tablet Mod 20:19 jojoa1997|Tablet To make dyes 20:19 jojoa1997|Tablet And minecraft has flowrrs 20:20 PilzAdam no, dont include plants_lib 20:20 PilzAdam I dont like this mod 20:20 VanessaE plants_lib is not suitable for inclusion in default - and hmmmm I believe said he'd rather rewrite it into C++ anyway 20:20 PilzAdam just plant the flowers like grass is planted in default 20:21 VanessaE besides, plants_lib does nothing by itself. 20:21 VanessaE you need to actually *use* it for it to do anything 20:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, we are talking about minitest 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet Wait 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet I just found a list of recipes 20:21 VanessaE oh minitest again 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet We need to add squids 20:21 Kacey no! 20:22 VanessaE you need to change the name of that damn thing so as not to confuse it with minetest. A one-letter difference makes for confusing conversations. 20:22 jojoa1997|Tablet Make it crafttest 20:22 Kacey we need a computercraft type mod that adds turtles and computers 20:22 jojoa1997|Tablet Or testcraft 20:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe that on purpose >:-) 20:22 VanessaE mineclone ;) 20:26 jojoa1997|Tablet Idea 20:26 jojoa1997|Tablet Me second light for default game 20:26 jojoa1997|Tablet Mesecons light 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet The swords are messed up 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet Steel is better than diamond 20:31 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, see latest commits of default 20:31 PilzAdam and use the same system 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah just saw 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet Is it in the lua AP doc 20:32 PilzAdam yes 20:33 jojoa1997|Tablet Sweet 20:33 jojoa1997|Tablet I will check it out 20:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Please send a pm explaining the new damage system 20:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Gtg now 20:49 Calinou tablet users, making too many new lines since 2008® 20:52 VanessaE sfan5: you awake? 20:54 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add varying levels of precision to TimeTaker df49b93877 2013-03-29T13:53:15-07:00 http://git.io/0PsFTA 20:56 sfan5 VanessaE: yup 20:57 VanessaE sfan5: can you write a script to go through all of those failures in Mod Releases and move them to Modding General? 20:57 VanessaE maybe execute it on Monday or something? 20:58 sfan5 yes 20:58 VanessaE also, 20:58 VanessaE check for case insensitivity in thingsa like "[Mod]" vs "[mod]" 20:58 VanessaE -a 20:58 VanessaE in your regular script I meamn 20:59 VanessaE mean* 20:59 sfan5 i'll just add a move functionality to my regular script 20:59 VanessaE good idea. 21:02 sfan5 VanessaE: case intensivity... does that mean "[MoD]" == "[mod]" or the opposite 21:03 VanessaE sfan5: if someone writes "[mod]" it should be taken as valid 21:03 sfan5 my script uses if not topic_name.lower().startswith("[mod]") or ... : raise_error() 21:03 VanessaE Mod, mod, MOD should be valid 21:04 sfan5 you didn't see the .lower() part 21:04 VanessaE I'm being told that it's not catching them, though 21:04 sfan5 link or it didn't happen 21:04 VanessaE heh 21:04 VanessaE lemme check 21:06 ShadowNinja sfan5: you should ask celeron55 to /msg chanserv flags #minetest MinetestBot +V 21:06 sfan5 ShadowNinja: done 21:08 VanessaE +V ? 21:08 sfan5 IIRC that should be auto-voice 21:09 VanessaE ah 21:13 Calinou VanessaE: mod and MOD look like crap 21:13 sfan5 MOD looks like crap 21:13 Calinou and mod too 21:13 sfan5 mod... nah, its acceptable 21:14 VanessaE they both look like crap compared to "Mod", but at least [mM]od should be acceptible. 21:14 VanessaE acceptable* 21:15 sfan5 ShadowNinja: <celer.n55> why does it need voice 21:15 ShadowNinja sfan5: well why does it? 21:16 sfan5 because its a bot 21:16 sfan5 but thats not a (good) argument 21:19 ShadowNinja well you can at least use /mode +v-o MinetestBot sfan5 to compact it 21:22 sfan5 VanessaE: random side information, how moving topics works: http://pastie.org/7166293 21:36 sfan5 VanessaE: done. https://gist.github.com/sfan5/4642453/revisions 21:46 VanessaE sweet 21:50 Teddypig Rark? 21:50 rarkenin Yes? 21:50 Jordach hey rarkenin 21:50 Jordach hey VanessaE 21:50 Teddypig Ok, i never been here. Didn't know if I did it right. Lol. 21:50 rarkenin Teddypig: Be sure to include my full nickname so I get notified. 21:50 VanessaE hi 21:51 * Jordach ponders if OldCoder is fine 21:51 Teddypig What happend? 21:52 rarkenin The server died after we unvoiced and quieted its IRC account. 21:52 OldCoder Hi 21:52 Teddypig It's not back yet. Lol. 21:52 OldCoder Jordach, the answer is no but I am doing what I can 21:52 rarkenin Hi. Zeg9 was looking for you after a chest disappeared from minetest.org:30015 21:52 OldCoder Hmm 21:52 OldCoder Are the worlds running? BTW please do not do /clearobjects ever 21:52 Jordach rarkenin, it might be related to the node swapping bug 21:53 rarkenin Probably. But the area all around the missing chest is claimed, and it is not on a chunk boundary. 21:54 rarkenin The world IS running, I don't have access to /clearobjects. 21:55 rarkenin VanessaE: How do you kick players from your server in Lua? I know it's possible, I've been actively kicked from it ocne by accident. 21:55 VanessaE I don't know that you can 21:55 VanessaE you can ban 21:55 VanessaE that will cause them to sign off 21:56 VanessaE but I don't think there's a kick function 21:56 VanessaE and I know I don't have one :) 21:56 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOibU2XlHDs << Minetest customizer; an easy way to preinstall mods 21:56 VanessaE I just restart the server when I need to, which has the same effect 21:56 VanessaE :) 21:56 Tecan (VOibU2XlHDs) "Minetest customizer take 1" by "norrepli" is "Tech" - Length: 0:00:35 21:56 bas080 Hey, i changed my password several times but someone uses my username in my world. what is going on here? 21:57 VanessaE bas080: check carefully - are they signing in as bas080, or as basO8O ? 21:57 OldCoder bas080, where is the world? 21:57 VanessaE or maybe as basØ8Ø 21:57 bas080 it is my server. i have changed password several times. 21:57 bas080 someone keeps getting in 21:57 VanessaE bas080: look at what I wrote 21:57 bas080 ok. does that register as bas080? 21:58 VanessaE it won't register with the server as exactly "bas080" but it might look like they're using your account, after all 0 O Ø might look similar in some fonts. 21:58 rarkenin Try giving it two other unrelated modes. 21:59 rarkenin Sorry, wrong channel. 21:59 bas080 I think my computer or minetest has a security issue 21:59 VanessaE O and 0 look almost identical in my "bigger" font, maybe also in the game's default one 21:59 bas080 Or maybe i'm sleeptesting 21:59 VanessaE haha 21:59 VanessaE you got some logs of the incident? 22:00 bas080 Yes, with my name :P 22:00 Jordach more than likely an issue with the font 22:00 VanessaE show me 22:00 bas080 This is a mind**ck 22:06 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver: report gameid, uptime, cosmetic fixes on server web page 16c11eb4a3 2013-03-29T15:03:24-07:00 http://git.io/rRzrtA 22:08 Jordach YOU MUST BE FUCKING KIDDING ME: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-290313-220800.php 22:09 Jordach Calinou, ^^# 22:12 Jordach ugh 22:12 Jordach i swear im seeing curves with 90' blocks 22:13 Kacey Uberi keeps making mesecons things for the competition. 22:13 Kacey im going to make something better 22:13 Jordach Kacey, even better 22:14 VanessaE Jordach: if you're seeing curves in right-angles, you need to smoke less, or more, I'm not sure which 22:15 Kacey BOTH! 22:15 Jordach OH CMON 22:15 Jordach im getting McDonalds ads now 22:16 * Jordach is now hungry 22:16 VanessaE haha 22:16 Calinou lol, IE ad, Jordach 22:16 * Calinou has to go, night 22:18 us_0gb Good night. 22:19 Calinou good night windows user 22:19 * Calinou removes his moustache 22:20 VanessaE Calinou: wait 22:21 VanessaE eh, nevermind. 22:21 us_0gb Who? I don't use Windows. 22:21 * us_0gb is on Ubuntu 22:21 * Jordach is Xubuntu 22:22 * us_0gb is considering using Debian for a while 22:22 us_0gb Or maybe Arch. 22:22 Jordach us_0gb, same, but my system is how i like it 22:22 us_0gb Or BSD. 22:22 us_0gb Yeah. I like my setup too. 22:22 Jordach BSD for 3D gaming is 200X faster 22:23 us_0gb Exept, I could use a desktop that is less fancy. 22:23 Jordach the drivers arent shoved up the kernels ass 22:23 rarkenin Assuming you can get the game to compile and run. 22:23 us_0gb Hmm. Right. Linux it is then. 22:23 Jordach rarkenin, PC-BSD FTW 22:23 us_0gb That still leaves me with Debian and Arch as options. 22:23 Jordach mauvebic uses arch 22:24 Jordach although arch is more of a DIY system 22:24 us_0gb Yeah, he seems to think Arch is awesome. That's why I'm considering trying it out. 22:24 Jordach I have no problem with any distro that doesnt fuck about 22:24 Jordach e.g. **buntu 22:24 us_0gb Never mind then. I want my system to just work on its own. 22:25 us_0gb Which ones fuck about? 22:25 Jordach probably the wises 22:28 mauvebic arch is the only one that doesnt have me swearing at the computer lol 22:28 IceCraft *Kubuntu 22:29 VanessaE xubuntu or bust. 22:30 sfan5 Jeija: nice! 22:31 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79974#p79974 22:31 Calinou Jordach: on nvidia cards, opengl performance is the same on windows/linux/bsd, but the driver is more frequently updated for windows and linux... 22:31 Calinou (as soon as you have compositing off) 22:32 Calinou with BSD it'd probably get worse with compositing on :P 22:32 STHGOM a digiline tv? 22:33 Jeija sfan5: My only problem is that it doesn't work on my webspace as it should, even if it performs perfectly locally 22:34 Jeija the webspace seems to have some trouble with ob_flush(), and anything the flushes the buffer in general 22:34 Jeija Which means there is no progress displayed 22:34 Jeija That can be very annoying as it can take quite a long time 22:35 sfan5 Jeija: what about caching the latest version of mesecons etc. on the webspace 22:35 sfan5 also just the image for worldedit is not enough 22:35 Jeija I'm already caching minetest, some major mods like mesecons may also be cached; but I don't want to update all the mods all the time 22:35 sfan5 what about an iframe to the worldedit thread 22:35 Jeija It's just for testing, that image 22:36 Jeija I'd be happy if the output buffer thing worked at all 22:36 MichaelEh okay how do i dropbox 22:36 VanessaE use ompldr, or just any old pastebin 22:36 VanessaE worldedit files are plaintext 22:37 STHGOM sooooo... no lua/microcontrollers? 22:37 STHGOM forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=79974#p79974 22:37 MichaelEh ompldr 22:37 Jeija sfan5: You can test it here btw: http://mesecons.net/mt-customizer/ 22:37 VanessaE http://ompldr.org/ 22:37 MichaelEh pastebin 22:38 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ 22:38 VanessaE (better to use ompldr, in case the file's too big for the pastebin) 22:38 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Fix backward compatibility for server uptime in master server web page 177ca4f4d5 2013-03-29T15:36:06-07:00 http://git.io/TZHiHw 22:39 MichaelEh pastebin.ubuntu.com/5659647/ 22:40 STHGOM is there new version of mesecons? 22:40 MichaelEh somehow cmpldr.org was blocked.. at free wifi spot 22:40 STHGOM nvm 22:41 VanessaE got it, but all I see is a whole lot of black wool 22:41 VanessaE is that all there is in it? 22:41 MichaelEh lots of cobble. 22:41 VanessaE ok then the whole file didn't come through 22:42 MichaelEh yeah... just looks like it didn't save right 22:42 VanessaE maybe try with dropbox 22:42 VanessaE oh ok 22:43 MichaelEh sigh 22:44 MichaelEh It's One's Cathedra or at least from the pics I had from way back 22:44 bdjnk hey minetest people 22:44 VanessaE no chance of getting the whole file? 22:44 VanessaE hi bdjnk 22:44 bdjnk so, I'm on vacation, with no mouse 22:45 bdjnk was gonna play some minetest, but... 22:45 bdjnk http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5337 22:45 VanessaE that would be...difficult 22:45 bdjnk the mousepad just isn't the right tool :) 22:46 bdjnk like trying to dig sand with the pickaxe 22:46 bdjnk *touchpad 22:48 Jordach i should really spend a shit ton of time making a replica city of Norwich, Norfolk, UK in 1:1 scale 22:48 bdjnk sounds like a great idea :) 22:49 STHGOM bbl 22:50 Sketch2 Hello all 22:50 bdjnk hey Sketch2 22:51 MichaelEh weird... tried again and all it saved was 97 nodes 22:51 VanessaE sfan5: false positive on http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4129 22:52 rarkenin Quick question about the forum: I regularly log into rarkenin from two locations, one of which is shared. Now I cannot log in at the shared IP address and the forum claims I'm a bot. Is there something wrong with my account? 22:52 Sketch2 was trying to compile Minetest as a web app. didn't have much luck with that, 'cuz I ran into some stupid Python bug 22:53 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 22:53 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.341ms) 22:53 Jordach fuck me 22:53 Jordach thats a quick restart from crash 22:54 proller trying to jump from 1000 mountain, and want more aircontrol 22:57 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#5yuU3j8J 22:58 Exio what 22:58 Exio did you i just read archlinux 22:58 Exio on a server? pure madness, even windows xp sp1 in a server is better 22:59 Kacey i think i may have just won category 3 of the mesecons competition 22:59 Jordach sfan5, i feel REALLY OLD. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=11116#p11116 23:00 * sfan5 remembers that 23:01 Jordach City Build 1 23:01 MichaelEh okay got it this time I think http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5659699/ 23:02 Jordach NO FUCKING WAY 23:02 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=11601#p11601 23:02 Jordach MY ORIGINAL SERVER WORLD 23:03 Jordach and it still live 23:04 MichaelEh better than Gameboom.. everything is gone. 23:04 VanessaE ok, got it michael 23:05 MichaelEh logging back on to your server.... this will be cool if it transfers right 23:05 VanessaE *nod* 23:05 VanessaE but let's not put it where you are now, let's put it somewhere where it can be seen maybe? 23:06 MichaelEh up to you but I wanted to expand it to a whole medival town setting 23:06 VanessaE oh ok 23:06 VanessaE then it goes wherever you want it :-) 23:06 Jordach sfan5, MY OLD CITY BUILD 1 WORKS IN 0.4.5 23:08 MichaelEh I was going to post an article on how to deal with bad players.. 23:08 MichaelEh my idea was it's better to reward good players through graduated privs while bad players lose 23:09 MichaelEh what's the difference if all you get is build or not. 23:11 Sketch2 woo! making progress 23:14 Jordach uploading the lost world of mine 23:14 Jordach MichaelEh, remember this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=10964#p10964 23:14 VanessaE "only_peaceful_mobs = true" <-- early 0.4.0 map? and it still works? :-) 23:14 Jordach VanessaE, that's the remanants of the Mega City Build 1 23:15 VanessaE cool 23:15 Jordach I plan on leaving a memorial in the second one 23:15 Jordach im uploading some F12 from that broken world 23:15 Jordach most things are still broken. 23:16 Jordach I'll probably convert some mods so it works again 23:16 Jordach i started pixel art back then 23:17 Jordach most of these images were built by me and bwog (a long gone user. :( ) 23:17 Jordach http://imgur.com/a/Boe5H 23:17 Jordach VanessaE, ^ 23:18 MichaelEh hmm.. no I either built in local mode or gameboom but have moved to other servers 23:22 Jordach i put lots of work into that ancient world 23:23 Jordach City Build 1 will return... 23:24 kaeza 'ello 23:24 khonkhortisan 'i 23:25 STHGOM the eiffel tower on you pixel art server is BIG 23:25 rarkenin One of my friends might be able to do actual Mac builds that work... 23:26 MichaelEh Hey Jordach... a build for game dev conference... https://www.facebook.com/DIGLondonConference/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=4905917048663&set=o.24413881117&type=1&theater 23:27 Exio hi kaeza 23:27 MichaelEh another ... https://www.facebook.com/DIGLondonConference/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=4877430336513&set=o.24413881117&type=1&theater 23:28 Sketch2 oh, Dylan's here 23:28 STHGOM could different digiline sensor use the same digiline line/ 23:29 Sketch2 gonna pause on the whole compile thing. 23:30 Sketch2 ran into some sqlite3 thing anyway 23:31 MichaelEh ciao 23:31 MichaelEh QUIT 23:31 STHGOM and what is the "channel" in the LCD? 23:31 khonkhortisan With digilines, the channel is indistinguishable from the message. You could swap the two, and it would still work. 23:33 STHGOM ok 23:33 STHGOM how do you get at the rtc and send to the lcd 23:34 khonkhortisan ack! My compile went bad, and I lost the previous copy. 23:34 khonkhortisan What is an rtc and lcd? 23:34 Kacey new digiline things 23:34 STHGOM real time clock and liquil crystal display 23:35 STHGOM liquid* 23:35 khonkhortisan hi Kacey 23:35 STHGOM i think 23:35 khonkhortisan I don't know how a display would work without digilines being insulated 23:36 STHGOM i want to know what i should type into the luacontroller 23:36 STHGOM digiline_send? 23:37 khonkhortisan if event.type != "digiline" then digiline_send(channel, msg) end 23:37 khonkhortisan the if keeps two luaCs from talking in a loop 23:39 STHGOM i want to make the lcd say the what the rtc is 23:39 jojoa1997|Tablet Is there an android app to upload pics 23:40 khonkhortisan What does the lcd look like? Is it pixels or 7-segment? 23:41 STHGOM http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5263 23:41 khonkhortisan working on this: 'clock_gettime@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in DSO /lib64/librt.so.1 so try adding it to the linker command line 23:42 khonkhortisan oh 23:44 khonkhortisan Can't you just set the lcd to the same channel as the rtc? 23:44 STHGOM i dont understand what this means: For the display, just send your text on the channel you selected when right-clicking it, in order to retrieve time or light data, send a "GET" to RTC or light sensor on the selected channel. 23:45 khonkhortisan I can't try it myself, but it looks like you have to right-click to select an rtc channel, make the luacontroller send "GET" on that channel, get a response, then resend that on the lcd channel 23:47 STHGOM um. 23:48 STHGOM i was thinking is would be like luaC talking to each other 23:48 STHGOM the lcd would already print the digiline message 23:49 khonkhortisan When I see "CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS" I expect that variable to only be used on windows 23:58 STHGOM bye: i go 23:59 khonkhortisan bye