Time Nick Message 00:00 kaeza PilzAdam, anyway, is it planned to add intllib (or some derivative) into minetest_game/builtin? this can get more support from other mods for testing the system and discover new needs? 00:01 PilzAdam yes 00:01 PilzAdam lemme find that link... 00:01 kaeza I've read something about that on #-dev 00:01 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/modtranslate 00:02 PilzAdam c55 said someone need to port intllib to builtin 00:03 khonkhortisan Is anyone working on the inability to jump on ledges? 00:03 kaeza PilzAdam, I have a working branch somewhere on my comp (intllib directly in builtin) 00:03 khonkhortisan Or is that intended? 00:04 kaeza But I think the API details need to be discussed first 00:04 Uberi khonkhortisan: you mean exactly on the edge you can't jump? 00:04 PilzAdam intllib uses the servers lang, doesnt it? 00:04 kaeza is it OK to go with something like the gettext way(using a _() or S() macro)? 00:05 kaeza currently yes 00:05 Uberi kaeza: I think the intention was to send all strings in all langs to the client 00:05 khonkhortisan yes 00:05 Uberi and the client would decide which one to use 00:05 Uberi (in-place language switching!) 00:05 khonkhortisan the jump radius is smaller than the fall radius 00:06 kaeza Uberi, some things are difficult to translate 00:06 kaeza (e.g. formspecs) 00:06 kaeza the only way I see is to add support to every fs widget 00:06 PilzAdam kaeza, the branch I linked from c55 transfers tables like {en="String", de="GermanString"...} to all clients and they pick the language 00:06 thexyz good 00:07 PilzAdam so intllib should produce those and autmatically set it for the item description 00:07 thexyz that's just how I thought it should be 00:07 kaeza PilzAdam, IMHO a better approach would be for the server to get the client lang setting and send only that string 00:07 PilzAdam it should _not_ be like this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/3fbdb46574dcb815d8d4897c14d8bca68ceb5e70 00:07 thexyz does it tell server about client's language? 00:07 PilzAdam currently not 00:08 PilzAdam (but its a good starting point) 00:08 thexyz yeah 00:08 PilzAdam the intllib should act in minetest.register_node() and automatically set the correct tables for the description 00:08 PilzAdam and read it from mod/translation.txt or so 00:09 kaeza it already does in my branch, but will have to fix manually (remembered it fucked up in a pull) 00:10 PilzAdam and we need to figure out a way to translate formspecs 00:10 kaeza hmm... now what to do about formspecs? 00:10 kaeza ah 00:10 PilzAdam (and chat messages) 00:11 PilzAdam (only chat messages from Lua, though) 00:11 kaeza where is the "formspec parser" defined? I may tweak it a bit and see what happens 00:12 kaeza nvm, I'll grep the code 00:12 PilzAdam there are two ways the client can get a formspec: 00:12 PilzAdam 1) in nodemeta the "formspec" field 00:12 PilzAdam 2) minetest.show_formspec() 00:13 kaeza I mean the function that actually makes the UI 00:13 kaeza CUI* 00:13 kaeza GUI* 00:13 kaeza the one that finally parses the formspec into the GUI widgets 00:14 Kacey I used to think guns were loud. Then I dropped the damn shampoo in the shower. 00:15 kaeza PilzAdam, maybe → #minetest-delta ? 00:15 PilzAdam maybe -dev 00:17 PilzAdam but I have to go to sleep soon 00:18 kaeza ah ok, this can wait anyway. It's not as it will magically write itself in a couple of hours 00:18 kaeza so I'll just try tweaking some stuff 00:19 PilzAdam maybe just create minetest.translate() wich will return the correct translation table 00:20 PilzAdam and serialize the table when passing it to the client 00:21 PilzAdam bye 00:21 kaeza cya 00:27 Kacey I used to think guns were loud. Then I dropped the damn shampoo in the shower. 00:45 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#4z2Y2j8J 00:46 NakedFury totally agree on you about that 00:47 NakedFury specially hotel showers 00:47 NakedFury always the first 15 minutes is to experiment so not to burn myself 00:48 Kacey I used to think guns were loud. Then I dropped the damn shampoo in the shower. 00:50 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#PgTIBj8J 00:50 khonkhortisan my shower has h and c about halfway to the ends 00:51 mauvebic the best kind 00:51 khonkhortisan that's enough to get someone killed in the time it takes them to figure out the clown's appearance 00:51 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#R9Wdoq8J 00:53 khonkhortisan they forgot to write one-time use 00:53 khonkhortisan this coupon invalidates any future coupons/sales on this item 00:55 mauvebic slidy doors! :D http://www.zimg.eu/i/997754750 00:56 mauvebic fun part is how they close by themselves after 4s lol 01:10 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#3N9JKJVQ 01:23 Kacey bCK 01:23 Kacey back* 01:23 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#BJFn9mVS best calculator ever 01:26 onpon4 Hey, I don't see a crafting recipe for the animal modpack's net in the source. Is there one, or do you need to use /giveme to get it? 01:27 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#4GgBQqzZ 01:33 Kacey STUPID INTERNET!!!!! 01:40 * Kacey hates his isp 01:45 Kacey 12.4 second lag... 01:45 Kacey 23.4 01:45 Kacey 30 01:48 Kacey stupid internet 01:48 jordan4ibanez Oh nice sapier made path finding 01:50 jordan4ibanez Realbadangel have you released your pc mod yet? 01:52 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#6H5Zixpr 02:27 kaeza onpon4, w = wool 02:27 kaeza -w- 02:27 kaeza w-w 02:27 kaeza -w- 02:27 * VanessaE pokes kaeza 02:28 onpon4 kaeza: Ah, thanks! 02:28 kaeza err... I think it's the other way aroung 02:28 kaeza -g+d 02:29 * kaeza pokes VanessaE 02:29 kaeza onpon4, np 02:30 kaeza I think I'll leave the intllib stuff for tomorrow, and finish my update for computer already 02:31 kaeza too tired now to do complicated stuff 02:38 khonkhortisan RealBadAngel isn't near the computer right now 02:42 Leoneof :) 02:46 VanessaE if my guess is right, RealBadAngel is asleep right now, after a very long day 02:46 VanessaE probably getting up in the nest couple of hours 02:46 VanessaE net* 02:46 VanessaE next* 02:53 sokomine well, if you are bored and not tired you may try the building chest of my random_buildings mod (in a new world). it still has some bugs but it's progressing 03:04 VanessaE too tired to mess with anything right now 03:05 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#1Jfhdl8J 03:08 kaeza *NekoGloop found a new toy :D 03:08 NekoGloop ? 03:09 kaeza heh cn jokes 03:17 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, who's the diamond breaker guy? 03:17 NekoGloop no idea 03:20 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#cjpJkn8J 03:20 kaeza has anyone seen TheZenKitteh/RAPHAEL lately? 03:21 VanessaE hah 03:22 kaeza this pretty much sums it up lol http://ifunny.mobi/# 03:22 kaeza whoops 03:22 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#5pbRw5lb 03:24 NekoGloop No. this does. http://ifunny.mobi/#H9C49vEb 03:27 bull3trulz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2qv4sjHpRM 03:28 VanessaE damn you NekoGloop. 03:28 VanessaE now I'm browsing that site. 03:29 VanessaE it's fukung all over again!!!! 03:29 VanessaE :) 03:29 NekoGloop No. It's youtube all over again. \o\ 03:36 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#LYlckklS 03:37 kaeza iFunny: Y U SO ADDICTIVE?? 03:38 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#DJXBHr7o 03:38 NekoGloop Because we're spiting the people who made the site by not browsing it on an iphone 03:39 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#GWBLoGKq 03:39 NekoGloop rickroll, image meme versino 03:40 NekoGloop version* 03:40 VanessaE yep 03:41 NekoGloop Nevuh gonna give you up 03:42 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#gFUxJKVr all of my yes 03:43 VanessaE I like the "torch" light though :-) 03:44 NekoGloop Indeed. 03:44 NekoGloop That reminds me, i saw this one MC mod earlier... it makes torch levers. 03:46 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#1O6Q7m8J All the win... ALL OF IT. 03:46 VanessaE h! 03:46 VanessaE ha! 03:50 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#r8vq159J It's better. 03:50 VanessaE hah! 03:52 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#r7bIkl8J Yes. Yes it should. 03:54 khonkhortisan I like the cup 03:56 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#1jzrlI3l 03:56 VanessaE give this one to cornernote :D 03:57 khonkhortisan You can't attempt to eat the same meat twice 03:57 NekoGloop I've seen that one only fifty times by now, why didn't i think of that 03:58 kaeza rofl http://ifunny.mobi/#Fkwduy2W 03:58 jordan4ibanez pilzadam is like evil notch 03:58 jordan4ibanez he puts in all the awesome stuff lol 03:59 NekoGloop pilzadam is secretly notch 03:59 NekoGloop plot twist 03:59 khonkhortisan plot twist ftw! 03:59 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#BVTongZo 03:59 VanessaE O.O 03:59 jordan4ibanez That would be really cool 03:59 VanessaE no shit? 03:59 jordan4ibanez I bet notch is the one who challeneged c55 in the first place 03:59 khonkhortisan that would be cool if notch was part of our community 04:00 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#5me24kca 04:00 VanessaE (no shit, the image I linked, not the conspiracy stuff_ 04:00 NekoGloop What conspiracy? 04:00 NekoGloop After all, he thinks that the same ideas are good... 04:01 jordan4ibanez It would be cool if tools used the "tool" group so they could be enchanted somehow 04:01 NekoGloop http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/199/693/disgusted-mother-of-god.png (perfect response to my above post) 04:02 jordan4ibanez every time a node is dug, if the item has a metadata string of unbreaking it could have life put back into it on each node dig 04:02 kaeza VanessaE, WTF is that sorcery??? :O 04:02 VanessaE kaeza: freeky, no? 04:03 VanessaE I wonder if that's even the least bit true 04:03 khonkhortisan it's way too much work 04:03 khonkhortisan you're welcome to try more digits 04:03 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not for a preschooler who probably can't even multiply 2x2 yet :) 04:03 kaeza yes, it's too much work, but the point is... 04:03 kaeza THAT. IS. FREAKY 04:03 khonkhortisan on the 156 I don't see where the extra 3 goes 04:04 khonkhortisan oh 04:04 khonkhortisan nevermind 04:04 khonkhortisan I'm thinking it's only more ovals but still two dots 04:04 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#qz88d4Zg 04:04 VanessaE WIN! 04:04 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#nbFoEx8J 04:05 NekoGloop no.jpg 04:05 kaeza VanessaE, LOL. Sonic suxx anyway XD 04:05 khonkhortisan sonic&mario (forget what the turtle's called) 04:05 NekoGloop My samurai kittens shall murder you in your sleep. 04:05 VanessaE turtle is koopa troopa/paratroopa. 04:05 NekoGloop dino is yoshi 04:05 VanessaE ot bowser for the big one, but that's Yoshi in the pic. 04:05 khonkhortisan ah, yoshi 04:06 NekoGloop VanessaE, http://ifunny.mobi/#nbFoEx8J this is win. 04:06 VanessaE saw 04:06 VanessaE cute :) 04:06 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#vOZKMi8J 04:06 VanessaE how true it is. :) 04:06 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#9PDHAPuV 04:06 VanessaE HA! 04:07 VanessaE damn you NekoGloop. damn you to hell. :-) 04:07 VanessaE now I'm addicted. 04:07 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#MpYH0n8J 04:07 kaeza http://ifunny.mobi/#MB4r6Wxj 04:08 VanessaE hha, that one (http://ifunny.mobi/#MpYH0n8J) got Abe to laugh :) 04:09 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#pvNIi3Yn 04:12 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/#1dyOGXqU 04:14 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#bIG62UXs 04:14 VanessaE +5, Insightful 04:16 VanessaE http://ifunny.mobi/#Dd2SzJzk 04:16 VanessaE EPIC FAIL 04:16 NekoGloop and then the blue truck falls in... 04:26 lamefun hi 04:27 lamefun I just found an underground lake (of water) in latest git SP world. Is it a bug or an official feature? 04:27 kaeza feature 04:27 VanessaE "It's not a bug, it's a feature!" 04:27 VanessaE :) 04:30 kaeza "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature" 04:30 kaeza therefore, the "feature" to speed-quit using F10 04:32 VanessaE hah 04:41 jordan4ibanez Can I set groupcaps in game? 04:41 jordan4ibanez or for a specific stack? 04:42 VanessaE no clue 04:43 jordan4ibanez realbadangel are you fimiliar with this? 04:46 kaeza If I create a Wiki on github, is it editable by the public? 04:47 kaeza jordan4ibanez, I think you can't :( 04:47 kaeza that's basically modifying the tool def 04:48 kaeza It would be good if you could set those params for individual stacks. 04:50 jordan4ibanez No there's got to be a way 04:57 kaeza fak 04:57 kaeza GitHub MD is fuxed up 05:06 jordan4ibanez Damn I was hoping that'd be possible 05:09 jordan4ibanez I hope jeija's water wave branch gets merged, even though his waves need to be smaller 05:14 kaeza anyway, time for bed 05:14 kaeza nite all 06:21 VanessaE off to bed... night all 10:22 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:15 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5193 11:16 * Calinou chooses PilzAdam as official Mark Shuttleworth of the Minetest community 11:16 Calinou "we need to bring Minetest to the desktop, so we should put Mese crystals on people's desktops" 11:16 Calinou poor PilzAdam :) 11:16 Calinou people being pissed off about the 150,000 lava sources of a game world not being renewable 13:05 * STHGOM moos 13:21 Jscherro sup 13:21 Jscherro new minetester 13:22 Jscherro anyone know if theres a terraria mod for minetest? 13:23 ironzorg what 13:24 Jscherro i play terraria (2d sandbox game) was wondering if there3 was a mod to include monsters/abilities/sprites from terraria into minetest 13:24 Jscherro there is one for minecraft 13:24 ironzorg I don't recall anybody doing that, and I don't see the point 13:24 Jscherro ok 13:25 Jscherro the point being bringing the things people like from the 2d terraria world into a 3d world like minetest/minecraft :) 13:26 Jscherro anyhow.. for something different 13:27 Jscherro if i want to run a minetest dedicated server 13:27 Jscherro what excactly do i do 13:27 Jscherro got any links to any guides 13:27 Jscherro just for setting up the world. i know how to forward ports ect 13:28 ironzorg such a mod would result in implementing terraria with minetest's engine 13:28 Jscherro ye 13:29 Jscherro would love to see that 13:29 Jscherro but it would prolly be a huge workd 13:29 Jscherro would begin the process if i knew how to mod 13:31 PilzAdam Jousway, what OS do you use? 13:31 Jscherro win7 13:31 Jscherro sry 13:32 PilzAdam you can run a dedicated server in the command line with "minetest --server --worldname your_world" 13:32 PilzAdam see minetest.conf.example for settings like default privs, password etc. 13:32 ironzorg also gameid 13:33 Jscherro k 13:35 Jscherro ok i managed to start a server using --config and --server 13:35 Jscherro cool tnbx 13:35 Jscherro i want to set up minetest on our youth club i think 13:36 Jscherro im just afraid people would just go around destroying eachothers builds 13:36 Jscherro any way to get around that? 13:36 PilzAdam there are different protector mods in the forum 13:36 Jscherro k 13:36 PilzAdam if you dont want to install a mod for that, you can only give the "interact" priv to players that you trust 13:37 Jscherro interact meaning? 13:37 Jscherro ahh 13:37 Jscherro meaning only interactors can build 13:37 PilzAdam the interact privilige is needed to build/destroy blocks 13:37 Jscherro ye 13:37 Jscherro k 13:37 Jscherro ill need a mod then.. they all need to be able to build 13:38 Jscherro is it possible for users to auth on the server 13:38 PilzAdam you can see all privs when opening minetest, press F10 and type "/help privs" 13:38 Jscherro so that when they have built something while logged in with a certain user and pass others wont be able to destrou it 13:38 PilzAdam password protected user registration is supported 13:39 Jscherro ooohh nice 13:39 Jscherro hmmm 13:39 Jscherro im definately gonna look more into this 13:39 PilzAdam we have a nice user wiki: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki 13:39 Jscherro looking.. 13:39 PilzAdam its a bit outdated but most things are still up to date 13:40 PilzAdam especially the server commands and privilege articles are interseting 13:41 PilzAdam *interesting 13:43 Jscherro hmm k im looking at privs atm 13:43 Jscherro i see the commands but dont know how to use them 13:43 Jscherro cant type in the server console 13:43 PilzAdam you need a client to execute the commands 13:43 Jscherro k 13:43 Jscherro im logged intot he client too 13:43 Jscherro on my local iå 13:44 Jscherro ip 13:44 PilzAdam you can use t to open a dialog or press F10 to get a console 13:45 Jscherro hmm k 13:45 Jscherro i gave myself privs all 13:45 Jscherro but how do the server know that i can be trusted to have all privs? 13:46 Jscherro or wait not sure i gave myself privs anywya 13:46 PilzAdam by default all players get the priviliges that are set in minetest.conf (see default_privs) 13:46 Jscherro k 13:47 PilzAdam only players with the "priv" privilege can change the privs of other players with the "/privs" command 13:47 Jscherro where is the minetest.conf 13:48 PilzAdam in your minetest folder 13:48 Jscherro oh yea i see an example file there 13:49 Jscherro its all jerked up tho.. no word wrap in the file its just one long text 13:49 PilzAdam the real minetest.conf is generated when you exit minetest 13:49 PilzAdam thats probably windows :-) 13:49 Jscherro k 13:49 PilzAdam get notepad++ or so to read it correctly 13:50 Jscherro i found one 13:50 Jscherro on github by celeron 13:51 Jscherro i should use minetest.conf when making a dedicated server then 13:52 PilzAdam oh, and IIRC you always get all privs if you login to a server that runs on the same computer 13:55 Jscherro oohhh ok 13:56 Jscherro if a person logs in with username and a password are they added to the serverconf? 13:57 Jscherro so that i can give them privs that way 13:58 PilzAdam they are in worlds/your_world/auth.txt 13:58 Jscherro nice! 13:58 PilzAdam and the player files (with inventory and so on) are in worlds/your_world/players/ 13:59 Jscherro ok.. know of any protector mods? 13:59 Jscherro that i can fiddle around with 13:59 Jscherro just dont want people to destroy eachothers work.. its gonna be a semi public world 13:59 ironzorg the best protection is education ! 13:59 Jscherro k 13:59 Jscherro yea i could define some rules int he destrpction 13:59 Jscherro i guess 13:59 ironzorg just go on the mods forum 14:00 Jscherro but i have no way to enforce them :) like i cant keep them out of the server if they do bad 14:01 Jscherro k 14:01 Jscherro looking at the protector mod of glomie 14:08 Jscherro hmm 14:09 Jscherro been looking around but dont see how to enable the mod on my server 14:09 Jscherro extracted it into the mods folder 14:13 Jscherro nm found out 14:14 Jscherro made a folder worldmods in my world folder and put it there now its loaded 14:42 RealBadAngel hi all 14:49 Jscherro hmm 14:49 Jscherro i stated fullscreen in my server config 14:49 Jscherro but when i connect it connects in window 14:50 PilzAdam you should only edit minetest.conf if minetest isnt running 14:50 PilzAdam it only reads it at startup 14:50 Jscherro i know i did do that 14:50 Jscherro i mean i shut down the server then edited and saved then started up server 14:50 Jscherro but client still connects in window 14:50 PilzAdam have you set it minetest.conf for the client? 14:50 Jscherro no 14:51 Jscherro ahh you set resolution in the client? 14:51 PilzAdam yep 14:51 Jscherro k tnx 14:51 Jscherro but other than that everything seems to be working perfectly :D got protection block in inv and users are getting regged 14:51 PilzAdam everything in the "Client Stuff" section in minetest.conf.example is only in minetest.conf for the client 14:51 Jscherro k 14:52 Jscherro dont really have any sections in my cibf 14:52 Jscherro conf 14:52 Jscherro wait 14:53 Jscherro i see it now 14:56 Jscherro i tried addding farming and plants mod but my server crashes then 15:16 PilzAdam http://www.zimg.eu/i/2696023019 15:18 Matsetes Hi 15:19 Matsetes I've some problems with Technic 16:42 Jordach i have found a infinity loop 16:42 Jordach * Jordach removes channel operator status from Jordach 16:42 Jordach * Q gives channel operator status to Jordach 16:48 RealBadAngel Jordach, Moebius found it way before you ;) 16:52 hmmmm http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fired-by-sendgrid-for-outting-developers-on-twitter/ 16:56 mauvebic lol 16:57 mauvebic sounds like adria could use a big dongle too 16:57 mauvebic that kind of thought-police mentality is exactly why i hate working in teams lol 16:58 hmmmm yep, you have to tippy toe around women who are like that at jobs 16:58 RealBadAngel thats just stupid 16:58 hmmmm or else bam, you're done 16:58 hmmmm hey, she got fired for this bunch of nonsense. at least there's some justice in the world. 16:58 mauvebic theyre usually like that when they're not getting any - otherwise they'd be contributing jokes of their own 16:58 RealBadAngel everybody know that fuckin let live the mankind 16:59 RealBadAngel but talkin bout it or doing it is forbidden? 16:59 RealBadAngel its like man sitting on a branch and cuttin it 17:00 mauvebic theres seems to be no distinction between political activism in the workplace and costing people their jobs 17:01 mauvebic im not at all surprised she's getting threats over this BS, if i lost my job to her, i would too lol 17:02 mauvebic the worst is missionary coworkers (religous nuts) 17:02 mauvebic *religious 17:03 rubenwardy hi all 17:05 rubenwardy I dislike religion. 17:05 rubenwardy But it is free choice/ 17:06 mauvebic idc about religion so long as the 'personal' is emphasized in personal worship 17:06 mauvebic you have to be pretty weak-minded to let yourself be converted by a coworker/stranger, makes you wonder how many more times it could be accomplished with the same target lol 17:13 RealBadAngel weirdo. ppl will fuck as they used to be, no matter what god is watchin, but they will sue for proposition to do so 17:14 RealBadAngel its not even fuzzy logic, its fucked up logic 17:17 RealBadAngel not to mention without fulfillin it, in one generation time all mankind would be gone 17:20 * Mati^1 hi All 17:20 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: I updated the forcefield branch, seems I forgot to add a few minor changes to the commit 17:24 mauvebic refit bridge http://www.zimg.eu/i/1968214881 17:29 Jordach you know youve got a problem when you can seed a torrent faster than downloading it 17:29 Jordach fuck throttling 17:29 mauvebic usually the other way around - my UL speed is capped, though they wont admit to it 17:30 mauvebic until i sent my ISP several months' worth of logs showing a speed dropoff right around 17hrs 17:30 mauvebic (they could at least try to make it look random) 17:31 Jordach hold it, lemme turn spotify on -- ill get a faster speed (which always works :D) 17:31 mauvebic another thing, torrents are uber-slow during trafic shaping, but youtube at 1080p works fine lol 17:32 Jordach mauvebic, udp vs. tcp 17:32 Jordach tcp > udp 17:32 Jordach but function wise udp > tcp 17:34 Jordach there it is: 2kb/s straight to 400kb/s 17:34 mauvebic sometimes ill restart the torrent app, and suddenly speed picks up, (makes me think theyre almost flagging the activity) 17:35 Jordach i just disquise my traffic as minetest on port 30000 17:35 Jordach usually works 17:36 mauvebic my map, i think ill have to offer it as a torrent, at 700mb lol 17:37 Jordach yup 17:37 Jordach just use magnet links 17:38 mauvebic ugh, hate making those tho, last time i did, it was to put all of thebox.bz's stuff on public trackers lol 17:38 Jordach mauvebic, i generally seed to 11.0 17:38 Jordach (sometimes 1110.0 is i accidentially forget to turn transmission off) 17:39 mauvebic ill never really understand the private trackers - how do impose rules on activities that are essentially illegal? and how do you expect user to respect your rules more than they would the law? lol 17:39 mauvebic + the hypocrisy of private trackers acting like they have a monopoly on piracy lol 17:39 Jordach mauvebic, the problem lies in the MPAA 17:39 Jordach NOT Law 17:39 mauvebic is that britains' RIAA? 17:39 Jordach no 17:40 Jordach Motion Picture Association of America 17:40 mauvebic ugh, they should worry less about piracy and worry more about the crap they keep putting out 17:41 Jordach mauvebic, either way, all big corporations (that are apple, google and MS) are bitches to them as they MPAA has more money and are corrupt 17:41 mauvebic i haven't DL'ed a movie that i felt was worth watching or buying in years now lol 17:41 dante123 hi all, I need someone to test and see if my server is accessible via the internet 17:41 Jordach dante123, sure 17:41 dante123 if this works, i am going to try and use it with my students 17:41 Jordach i use 0.4.5 default 17:41 dante123 yeah it is o.4.5 17:41 Jordach even though this is a linux box, i dont like living too close to the edge 17:41 dante123 do i give you the minetest.info.tm or actual ip 17:42 dante123 im using freedns.afraid.org 17:42 mauvebic both should work 17:42 mauvebic you could always try checking 'public' 17:42 Jordach dante123, checking 17:42 mauvebic see if it shows up on other comps 17:42 dante123 not sure how to check freedns to see if it is working 17:43 mauvebic if its pointing to the right IP and it doesn't work, its your network/computer 17:43 Jordach dante123, throw me the IP 17:43 dante123 okay 17:43 dante123 sent you private message 17:44 dante123 did you get it 17:44 Jordach yes 17:44 dante123 not working? 17:44 dante123 i have tried to setup my router properly....and I think I have it right 17:44 Jordach waiting 17:45 Jordach it doesnt respond to pings 17:45 dante123 i have port forwarding and port triggers (not sure if I need one or both) 17:45 Jordach dante123, as a reminder, minetest is UDP and not TCP 17:45 Jordach and it uses 30000 17:45 dante123 i have it setup for both, but can change to just udp 17:46 Jordach dante123, this a home pc, make sure the IP, like 192.168.1.2 matches the computer it is port forwarding from 17:46 Jordach (eg, LAN) 17:47 dante123 hang on checking 17:47 Jordach because thats where most people fall down, they dont check their assigned router IP 17:47 Jordach from DHCP 17:48 Jordach actually i THINK THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE SERVERS EASIER 17:48 Jordach uPnP 17:48 Jordach and that complementary thing 17:48 dante123 http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-03-20_16_47_21-omhpNqMH.png 17:48 dante123 that is what the port forwarding settings are 17:48 dante123 I also did port triggering (not sure if I am supposed to or not) 17:48 Jordach that should work 17:48 Jordach dante123, remove the triggers 17:49 dante123 ok triggers gone 17:49 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:49 Jordach (my router is a belkin so it;s easy) 17:49 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:49 dante123 my local ip on this machine is is 192.168.0.12 17:49 dante123 and that seems setup right 17:50 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:50 dante123 http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-03-21_13_50_23-A24A2SCU.png 17:51 dante123 this is what my configuration screen for router looks like.... 17:51 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:51 Jordach dante123, why does it require an external IP 17:51 Jordach try 127.0.0.1 17:52 dante123 this router/cable modem does have a setting I can enable for uPnP 17:52 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, there are so called "games" for the minetest engine that are bundles of mods 17:52 dante123 not sure, should I just leave that blank 17:52 Jordach dante123, uPnP is for UDP programs without the hassle 17:52 PilzAdam minetest_game is one example for such a gem 17:52 PilzAdam *game 17:52 Jordach Minetest doesnt have it yet 17:52 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:52 dante123 so Jordach, I will delete the external ip references or just change it to 127.0.0.1 17:52 dante123 what do you suggest 17:52 Jordach yes 17:53 Jordach because external IP probably refers to another ip 17:53 Jordach if 127.0.0.1 fails, try the local ip of the server 17:53 dante123 okay and leave ports 30000 in there for both internal and external 17:53 dante123 ?? 17:53 Jordach yes 17:54 dante123 ok try again, right now it is set to 127.0.0.1 17:54 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:54 PilzAdam what? 17:54 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:54 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:55 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:55 dante123 i was able to connect yesterday, but that was from another computer on my home network, so not really the internet...although I used external (public) ip address 17:55 Jordach dante123, then it's still local 17:55 dante123 so i take it you cant connect? 17:55 Jordach im currently using your ip adress 17:55 dante123 so I will try putting the 192.168......local address in there 17:56 Jordach your host at minetest.info.tm 17:56 Jordach is correct 17:56 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:56 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:56 PilzAdam yea 17:56 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:56 PilzAdam modpacks are bundles of mods, not games 17:57 Jordach --- minetest.info.tm ping statistics --- 17:57 Jordach 57 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 56000ms 17:57 dante123 okay just put in the 192 stuff 17:57 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, every world has only one game, but can run many modpacks 17:57 dante123 for external 17:57 dante123 check it now 17:57 dante123 I also have DMZ host settings on router.... 17:57 dante123 but have not tried those 17:57 Jordach remove DMZ 17:57 Jordach turn on DMZ as sometimes it wont work 17:57 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, so a game is the basis of each world, while modpacks are just bundles of single mods 17:58 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:58 Jordach in fact, you would need no port forwarding with DMZ OFF 17:58 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:58 Jordach since all data is moved 17:58 dante123 okay just applied the local address as dmz 17:58 VanessaE good afternoon all 17:58 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:59 dante123 any luck? 17:59 crackerenherbe [deleted] 17:59 Jordach dante123, enable DMZ on the server and remove the port forwards 18:00 mauvebic ugh, we need to be able to set tiles per nodebox {p1,p2} 18:00 dante123 http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-03-21_13_59_39-wfImgfTu.png 18:00 dante123 are more settings 18:00 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, games are more than modpacks; each world is linked to one game, wich adds the very basic blocks to each world 18:00 PilzAdam (like dirt) 18:00 Jordach dante123, oh god 18:00 Jordach found your problem. uncheck WAN BLOCKING 18:01 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, when you create a new world, you can choose the game you want to have for this world 18:01 Jordach Wide Area Network is the internet 18:01 Jordach (WAN is just a bigger name) 18:01 dante123 http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-03-21_14_00_43-XfWvf5fP.png 18:01 dante123 okay 18:01 mauvebic i thought was wireless area network? 18:01 dante123 okay try now 18:01 Jordach works 18:01 PilzAdam mauvebic, thats W-LAN, wireless _local_ area network 18:02 dante123 right now settings are DMZ for this local ip......and wan blocking disabled 18:02 dante123 thanks 18:02 dante123 so should I try to do the port forwarding thing later.....and disable dmz so the whole computer is not visible? 18:02 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:02 dante123 thanks Jordach, gotta go....recess is over 18:03 Jordach dante123, at least it works for now 18:03 Jordach dante123, my ping is pinging back now 18:03 dante123 yeah thanks,.,will check in pater 18:03 Jordach so yes, it works 18:03 dante123 check in later i mean....thanks a million\ 18:03 Jordach dante123, just doing my job 18:03 Jordach :P 18:03 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, yes, mods and modpacks just extend the game 18:04 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:04 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:04 mauvebic you sure youre not helping a kid install MT on his/her school network? :p 18:05 Jordach mauvebic, no, this is a teacher that want to let the kids use minetest when not at school 18:05 Jordach and for once i can salute a school that isnt using non foss stuff 18:06 mauvebic problem with foss stuff in gov't academics is that the money you spent on software now goes to support, same difference lol 18:06 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:07 Jordach mauvebic, im probably the best support minetest has 18:07 mauvebic only diff is you pay once for each major version of software, whereas support is ongoing because linux is a moving target lol 18:07 mauvebic ie , ill give you the code for free, but you have to keep me on the payroll for eternity to support the damn thing lol 18:08 mauvebic once FLOSS admits to this we might see more realistic corporate expectations of it lol 18:08 Jordach i thought floss was for teeth 18:08 Jordach :D 18:09 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:09 mauvebic Free/Libre OSS ive seen it used :p 18:09 PilzAdam crackerenherbe, mod packs should go there 18:10 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:10 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:10 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:11 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:11 PilzAdam modpacks should go into the same directory as mods 18:11 PilzAdam the games/ path is only for games 18:12 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:12 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:13 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:14 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:14 PilzAdam because they can differ between worlds 18:15 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:16 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:19 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:19 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:20 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:20 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:21 jordan4ibanez We should have a contest on the forum 18:22 jordan4ibanez Instead of making mods to do random stuff or make some silly thing, we should see who can make the best mods to make the default game more fun 18:24 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:24 jordan4ibanez What? 18:24 rubenwardy jordan4ibanez: define "fun" 18:24 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:24 jordan4ibanez More things to do, a point, better sounds, better anything. Make the game more like a game. 18:25 rubenwardy ahh, good idea 18:25 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: read -dev for the last few hours. Some changes taking place. 18:25 VanessaE (the logs thereof I mean) 18:25 jordan4ibanez Could you give me a short changelog pastebin? ^^ 18:25 VanessaE you may be interested in the goings on there. 18:26 jordan4ibanez Where is the log for minetest-dev? 18:26 PilzAdam the changelog would be pretty small because nothing has changed for the end user :-) 18:26 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:26 Jordach jordan4ibanez, http://irc.minetest.ru 18:26 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-03-21 18:27 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:28 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:28 mauvebic so they wanna split the games? good on them 18:29 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:29 mauvebic insteading of lobbying for the 1 game to include all the mods people can lobby different games :p 18:30 jordan4ibanez Space survival could be cool, but before that it could have multiple world support for one actual world, like different realms with some way to transport a player in between realms with lua 18:30 mauvebic thats not really within the scope of a 'minetest game' tho 18:30 mauvebic thats more of a server/client patch 18:30 mauvebic which i think, rba is working on w/ stargates 18:31 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:31 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:31 PilzAdam Jeija has worked on this too 18:31 mauvebic mind you i asked a year ago to be able to jump worlds so i could setup "other world" type places (trek) 18:32 mauvebic basically i guess a server that runs many worlds on different ports? 18:32 jordan4ibanez It would be better if you could give entities AI coded in the c++ not lua 18:32 mauvebic and being able to jump from those to eachother and other addresses (internet) 18:32 jordan4ibanez So that way the game isn't slowed down insanely 18:32 PilzAdam Jeija worked on client redirecting to other servers 18:32 jordan4ibanez That's cool 18:32 RealBadAngel mt has already this feature built in 18:33 RealBadAngel when you connect 18:33 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:33 mauvebic well when i saw the galactic mod from MC i was like "wtf" lol 18:33 mauvebic thats exactly what i wanted while back 18:33 RealBadAngel point is to allow REconnecting for within the game 18:34 RealBadAngel to keep consistency 18:34 mauvebic that means being able to authenticate ingame (changing names/psswds) 18:34 jordan4ibanez "such a space thing would also require the sun/moon/day turned off, and a good amount of always-present light to make things practical (both could be simple settings transferred from the server to the client)" 18:34 mauvebic or cross your fingers your name is free on all the worlds (not with griefers they wont be) 18:34 jordan4ibanez a setting in lua to control the ambient light? 18:34 RealBadAngel NONE 18:34 RealBadAngel each time you will connect to new server 18:35 mauvebic well if you want to create a moon type situation you need a few things: no sun/moon, and possible a background image for the sky 18:35 RealBadAngel and get new mods (if for the first time) 18:35 RealBadAngel that also solves pass problems 18:35 jordan4ibanez I wish in minetest that we had a real arm like the 3d player, not a muffin. That'd make me want to play again 18:36 mauvebic so basically you need the connection formspec ingame and what some DE's call re-cycle 18:36 crackerenherbe [deleted] 18:37 mauvebic idea for the moon: change the sun color to blue :p 18:38 mauvebic remove the tiny moon 18:38 VanessaE why would the sun be blue in space? 18:38 VanessaE it'd be bright yellow-white, just no blue atmosphere 18:38 mauvebic the earth is blue in space 18:38 mauvebic blue and white 18:38 mauvebic a bit of green 18:38 markveidemanis Hi 18:38 mauvebic so unless you want to apply a texture to the sun, i'd go w/ a light blue 18:38 VanessaE which I do, btw 18:39 VanessaE texturable sun/moon/sky is a must. 18:39 mauvebic ive been asking for it for a while too lol 18:39 jordan4ibanez Also, could you call minetest game minetest_0.4.5_stable if you guys are going to develop another version? So that that could be the latest stable version that people could use 18:39 mauvebic but anyone can change the source and change the colors/size of moon/sun, (thats about all i could do lol) 18:39 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, you can pull the stable_0.4 branch from github 18:39 PilzAdam or use the tags 18:40 jordan4ibanez No that's what I meant, in the info for minetest game, put 0.4.5 stable lol 18:41 mauvebic though if you wanna do something different with the sun/sky/moon, id suggest making them elements you define in lua, with the possibility of multiple suns/moons or none at all 18:41 jordan4ibanez Just in case any future update of the game engine makes the game mode incompatable 18:42 jordan4ibanez I think the reason minecraft>minetest for me is the sound are better the music is very relaxing and nostalgic, and the textures of things just relaxes me 18:43 mauvebic aesthetics 18:43 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77576#p77576 18:43 mauvebic can be achieved with mc_game 18:44 mauvebic i just dont think anyone wants to be responsible for grabbing all the sounds and textures and putting it up for download lol 18:45 jordan4ibanez I don't want minecrafttest I want to help create what minetest could be, but I don't know how yet 18:48 mauvebic but thats the point, if people want different games why not make different games? why all bitch about the one? 18:48 jordan4ibanez Damnit vanessae please delete: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77582#p77582 18:48 mauvebic we used to debate features now we just debate shit anyone can fix in lua, is kinda pointless 18:49 VanessaE deleted. 18:49 vytautas hi minetest_game not working. 18:49 jordan4ibanez because mauvebic, to create a better game engine, you must create a better game, and to create a better game we must come to a common agreement on features, and all throw our ideas into the hat 18:50 vytautas with latest git 18:50 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77574#p77574 18:50 mauvebic i would have thought diversity would lead to a better game engine (ie, people doing new things and asking for new things) 18:52 STHGOM howdy 18:52 jordan4ibanez Well more cpu cores are better than one right? It's better to have more people working on parts of a game mode and then explain why a feature should be added to the engine then having one person trying to create a bunch of features for a game mode 18:52 mauvebic howdy 18:53 vytautas http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c147.0.403.403/p403x403/150468_229172783892656_955926602_n.jpg 18:54 jordan4ibanez Weird issue with the votes counter 18:54 jordan4ibanez Warning! The following errors must be corrected before your message can be posted: 18:54 jordan4ibanez Count of days and count of votes can't ... 18:56 jordan4ibanez Jordach your post in general made me lol. 18:57 VanessaE well my server is transitioned over to that separated minetest_game/minetest_common model. that wasn't too difficult. 18:59 mauvebic does default have snow and ice nodes? 18:59 Jordach nope. 19:00 mauvebic i put em in mine, along with a full grass node 19:00 jordan4ibanez You can use nodeboxes for blocks, could "" which is the default item for your hand have a nodebox of an item called "" ? 19:00 jordan4ibanez hacks hacks hacks 19:03 STHGOM hi 0gb im sparky 19:03 jordan4ibanez Oh yeah, pilzadam can we change the tool definition for an itemstack? 19:04 PilzAdam hm? 19:04 jordan4ibanez in essence is that even possible? 19:04 PilzAdam you mean changing the tooldef at runtime? 19:05 jordan4ibanez Say I wanted to give a wooden axe the tool definition of a steel shovel while the server is running with some kind of lua code, could I do that? 19:05 jordan4ibanez And I mean only the wooden axe I am wielding 19:05 PilzAdam no, that is v 19:05 PilzAdam ooops 19:05 PilzAdam no, that is basically the same as changing nodedef at runtime 19:06 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, could that possibly be a metadata feature in the future? Tooldef could be heald in metadata instead of tool definition? 19:06 jordan4ibanez for enchanting and stuff ^^ 19:08 jordan4ibanez I mean groupcaps for a tool 19:09 jordan4ibanez So you can change the group caps of a specific tool in your inventory without changing the rest of the same tools, if that makes sense 19:09 Calinou how does one announce a server to servers.minetest.net? 19:10 Calinou I've added server name/description and server_announce = 1 to minetest.conf, nothing 19:10 Calinou whoops, nevermind 19:14 bas080 Hey guys, i had an idea. What if there was a server where modders can "post"/build/demo there mods and users/players can visit to try the mods out, and if they like, download the modders mod by pressing a download button (download node) so the mod download to their default game or opens the mod page in browser. An alternative to an mod manager ui 19:15 mauvebic curl? 19:15 bas080 curl is good 19:15 bas080 mauvebic, you like idea? 19:16 mauvebic neutral lol 19:18 mauvebic i mean you cant really miss 'em if you google for mods in the browser 19:18 Calinou what port is used for server announces? does the server need any dependency that is not required? 19:19 thexyz Calinou: curl 19:19 bas080 true, i don't mind the forum either. But all is in english and this would make the understanding of mods universal. 19:19 Calinou ah, ok 19:19 Calinou thexyz: is it enabled by default when doing "cmake .", or is it off by default? 19:21 * Calinou did "cmake . -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_CURL=1" 19:21 bas080 not all mods can be showcased... :S 19:22 thexyz Calinou: it should be enabled if you have it 19:22 Calinou k 19:28 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: technic/ores.lua:71: attempt to call global 'register_stair_slab_panel_micro' (a nil value) 19:29 RealBadAngel thats VanessaE 19:29 RealBadAngel i dont know nothin bout it lol 19:30 PilzAdam 'register_stair_slab_panel_micro' is from stairs+ 19:31 mauvebic how many shapes for every node in stairs+? 19:31 jin_xi hasnt that been merged into moarblocks recently? 19:32 PilzAdam yep 19:33 mauvebic good its getting harder to distinguish all the mods with more before it or + after it lol 19:33 VanessaE no, your copy of moreores is probably out of dare 19:33 VanessaE date* 19:33 VanessaE er 19:33 VanessaE moreblocks 19:34 VanessaE ShadowNinja: moreblocks now includes stairsplus as part of it, and technic uses those functions to register stairs. You need to get the latest moreblocks git, as everything is piped through the circular saw 19:34 VanessaE (to reduce creative inventory clutter) 19:35 VanessaE fwiw, my server used to have 33 pages in Unified Inventory. Now it has 18. 19:35 VanessaE thanks to circular saw 19:35 ShadowNinja ok 19:35 mauvebic i have 5 lol 19:35 VanessaE Calinou: can you put sokomine's technic fix in plz? (see forum) 19:35 ShadowNinja editing my updater now for common 19:36 VanessaE already updated my build scripts 19:36 VanessaE I should upload a new build 19:38 rubenwardy I have been working on this: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/my_mods/food/?mode=view&id=food:bread 19:38 rubenwardy 100% database controlled 19:38 rubenwardy bye all 19:40 VanessaE there, new build is up. 19:40 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77600#p77600 19:42 mauvebic so have they figured out why emerge is slower despite luajit? 19:42 Menche emerge is slower with luajit? 19:42 mauvebic well when i compiled the latest minetest + jit, it took 15 spawns and it never finished lol, the same binvox spawned in 3 go's 0.45 stable 19:43 mauvebic vanessae told me it was emerge 19:43 Menche does that affect map loading as well? i thought i noticed more map loading lag with luajit 19:43 VanessaE eh? 19:43 Menche could be wrong though 19:43 VanessaE when did I say that? 19:43 VanessaE oh that thing 19:43 mauvebic tuesday 19:44 VanessaE that's not so much a Lua problem, jit or otherwise, as much as a problem with the engine telling the client those blocks have been changed. 19:44 mauvebic my FPS was the same with luajit, mods werent faster and binvox wasn't working at all - i dont know the cause 19:44 VanessaE whether that's emergethread or not I'm not sure, ask hm 19:44 VanessaE hmmmm: 19:44 VanessaE I was just guessing at it 19:45 mauvebic possibly, ive gotten used to compiling local folder versions for testing before upgrading my playing setup :p 19:45 Menche actually in my case it was probably not luajit, i just remembered i had too many emergethreads 19:45 mauvebic but as it stands i wont use latest + jit, dont know which is at fault tho 19:47 Menche apparently there is a cracked client that can gain extra privs on servers? 19:47 Menche i heard some players talking about it in gameboom 19:47 mauvebic LM prolly 19:47 VanessaE hacked* 19:47 Menche cracked, hacked, whatever 19:48 VanessaE and there are a few people who have such things, but it's more a matter of it exploiting bugs in the server that don't adequately control what the player can do 19:48 mauvebic hence my private server lol 19:48 Menche anyone know what it exploits? 19:49 mauvebic i doubt they would publish it here 19:49 mauvebic unless you wanna kiss your server goodbye 19:49 Menche someone has been digging the ropes from the vines mod on my server 19:49 Menche they are undiggable 19:50 mauvebic then theyre using whatever node from whatever mod that removes a node beneath/ontop/near it 19:50 Menche the player in question was bragging that he found some cheat i didn't block or something 19:51 mauvebic with the # of mods doing a # of different things, its very easy for anyone to figure cheats 19:51 mauvebic find an exploit, crash the server 19:51 mauvebic find an exploit, detroy nodes that you shouldn't be able to dig 19:51 mauvebic etc. 19:52 mauvebic thats why i suggest merging common-enough stuff and building up a solid base for them 19:55 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: can you please add : to the characters in your signs mod? 19:58 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: cannot open .../minetest_game/mods/stairs/init.lua: No such file or directory 20:00 ShadowNinja hmm, seems git does not like deleting directories 20:01 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, what? 20:04 PilzAdam gtg; bye 20:08 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: pushed 20:15 ShadowNinja um, fire is a required common mod 20:15 mauvebic you can disable those in the game.conf right? 20:15 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, ok, will test it a bit later today 20:17 ShadowNinja ah, yes, thanks 20:18 mauvebic is there still a modpack/mod going by 'nature'? 20:19 ShadowNinja moreblocks junglewood got removed, yay lets modify worldedit and //replace it all 20:27 Jscherro HEY GUYS 20:27 Jscherro sry caps 20:27 Jscherro im having a problem.. was setting up a server earlier.. now when i start it and join it with a client its all black 20:27 Jscherro and i get a few glitches of light of the sky but nothing else 20:27 Jscherro any ideas? 20:29 Jscherro no? :( 20:39 dante123 hi all, my students were building a world in 0.4.4 but I now have a server they can access (i think) from school or home that is running 0.4.5....can I move or export the 4.4 world to 4.5?? 20:40 mauvebic keep a backup and try it out 20:40 dante123 jscherro, have you tried teleporting or flying to another area....maybe you are in a bottomless pit 20:40 VanessaE sure, just copy it over 20:40 VanessaE worlds are portable between versions usually 20:40 dante123 mauvebic is there a specific folder that I move..... 20:40 mauvebic /home/.minetest/ 20:40 VanessaE dante123: copy minetestfolder/worlds/yourworld --> other_minetestfolder/worlds 20:41 mauvebic oups yeah that ^ 20:41 mauvebic forgot a folder level lol 20:41 VanessaE you just copy the whole folder named for your world and make sure the new minetest instance is configured to find it 20:41 mauvebic why wouldnt it? druninplace=0/1? 20:41 VanessaE if your worlds are all in something like /home/dante123/.minetest/worlds then you don't need to move anything. just run the new version 20:41 dante123 ok thanks 20:42 dante123 Thanks again for help yesterday VanessaE..... 20:42 VanessaE mauvebic: exactly. I always build for not-run_in_place, but others seem to prefer the opposite 20:42 VanessaE dante123: no prob. 20:43 mauvebic depends if youre testing or upgrading the client/server you play with 20:43 dante123 I had someone (jordan or some name like that) enter my world today....using DMZ. But Im going to try just the port forwarding thing now....do you mine testing to see if you can connect? 20:43 mauvebic i almost replaced my primary instance with all the buildscripts when testing jit lol 20:43 VanessaE mauvebic: use my buildscript for jit ;) 20:43 Jscherro i found out i was somewhere under the ground 20:43 mauvebic yeah but yours had druninplace = 0 i had to change to 1 lol :p 20:44 VanessaE heh 20:44 mauvebic otherwise i would have been royally screwed finishing ds9 20:44 Jscherro it was night i think so couldnnt see when i was underground but managed to get up during daytime 20:44 VanessaE ds9 is the big 1km thing you were trying to spawn? 20:44 mauvebic its done now :-) 20:44 VanessaE ahhh.. I thought it looked familiar. 20:44 BlindBanana is there a place where some different minetest server configs are shared and explained or is anybody using the default config? 20:44 mauvebic the battlestar is also over a km long lol 20:45 VanessaE BlindBanana: minetestserver --config /some/path/to/otherconfig.conf 20:45 mauvebic for an impression of the size: http://ompldr.org/vaHVhbA/mapr.png 20:45 VanessaE use the same syntax and options in your alternate config 20:45 VanessaE this works for minetest client also. 20:46 Jscherro wth.. my server crashes on startup now.. even with only --server in the command line 20:46 mauvebic one thing: when i played with map_meta, i changed the water level, but instead it rose the ground, is that normal? 20:47 mauvebic like, i wanted ground to stay at 0, and the water to rise 100m above (like a flooded world) 20:47 VanessaE weird 20:47 mauvebic perhaps seperate ground, water levels 20:47 VanessaE I've never played with those settings 20:48 mauvebic i did and raising the water level also raises the ground, which defeats the purpose of param i find lol 20:48 mauvebic ideally its up to the editor of map_meta to config peaks and islands on said map 20:49 mauvebic (ive only started to play with those [perlin] settings) 20:49 VanessaE imho there should be options in the world "configure" dialog (main menu) that let you change those settings before you start the world 20:49 mauvebic true 20:50 mauvebic current way is to create world, start with blank username, then edit map_meta, for uniform map 20:50 VanessaE but not by entering numbers, more like choosing a few options like "super hilly" or "lots of cliffs", "enable jungles", and the like 20:50 mauvebic hackish but works 20:50 mauvebic simple integer values representing a scale of 1 to 100 20:50 VanessaE and let the program plug in some numbers that subjectively seem to cause the selected terrain 20:50 Jscherro how come.. i set my name to be admin in the serverconfig file.. when i log in with that name and password i cant interact? 20:50 mauvebic 0 = flat, 100 = peaks and chasms everywhere sortof thing 20:51 mauvebic of course thats pointless if you use the flat flag :p 20:51 mauvebic im kinda curious why flat maps dont have water though 20:51 mauvebic it doesnt really ruin the flatness 20:51 kaeza hi all 20:51 mauvebic howdy 20:51 VanessaE hey kaeza 20:52 VanessaE mauvebic: I think it would need at least two or three controls for terrain, but nothing that should confuse 20:52 mauvebic simple scales but with enough of a range for real diversity 20:52 mauvebic cuz 1 to 10 is 10 to the power of the # of params = total number of possible worlds 20:54 mauvebic some things i just dont get and perlin is one of them lol hence paysage 20:54 ShadowNinja how do I replace an unknown node? 20:54 mauvebic kill it 20:54 VanessaE just break it with a pick and put down whatever shoulda been there 20:55 mauvebic [dig] + [q] 21:00 ShadowNinja I mean a few thousand nodes 21:00 ShadowNinja I will just re-define them 21:00 VanessaE find out what the node was and alias it to something else. 21:00 VanessaE or use pilzadam's "clean" mod 21:01 ShadowNinja it is junglewood and stonebrick 21:01 BlindBanana VanessaE: No, I want to know which server configs other people use and why 21:01 ShadowNinja will an alias change the actual one that is stored on the map? 21:01 BlindBanana VanessaE: I'm fine using the defaults 21:01 Jscherro guys 21:02 VanessaE BlindBanana: ohhh 21:02 Jscherro how come when on my own server i dig the tile is replaced immidiately 21:02 VanessaE well that's kinda random really 21:02 VanessaE everyone has their favorite settings 21:02 Jscherro in the minetest.conf i stated myself as admin 21:02 Jscherro and in my auth file my name has shout, interact 21:03 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5635250/ 21:03 VanessaE my config, for example. 21:05 BlindBanana Thx. Bit I mean as in http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 21:05 BlindBanana '*But 21:07 Jscherro how do i give myself interact?? 21:11 VanessaE /grant singleplayer all ;-) 21:11 VanessaE also, 21:11 VanessaE do this: sign out of your server, shut it down, delete your player file and delete your entry from ..what was it, auth.txt? then make sure you have your name set right in your minetest.conf 21:11 VanessaE start the server, log in with the correct name, and it should grant you all privs right away 21:12 Jscherro k ill try that tnx vanessae 21:12 Jscherro i deleted the entry from minetest.conf where i set my admin name 21:12 Jscherro you know what to type there ? 21:14 VanessaE nono don't delete it from minetest.conf, delete it from your world's auth.txt 21:14 VanessaE and it's just: name = somethinghere 21:14 VanessaE whatever your in-game name is 21:14 Jscherro k 21:14 Jscherro did that now.. still no privs.. 21:15 VanessaE did you delete your entry from your world's auth.txt ? 21:15 Jscherro did delete it from auth.txt.. will try again 21:15 VanessaE did you shut down the server before editing both files? 21:18 Jscherro ye 21:18 Jscherro i checked my auth and players and im not being created there now 21:18 jordan4ibanez Who wants to know the secret to animated chest blocks in minecraft? 21:19 VanessaE Jscherro: ok, now start your server 21:19 VanessaE log in with *exactly* the same spelling of your in-game name as you put in minetest.conf 21:20 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/0NaykgZq_ME 21:20 jordan4ibanez Chests aren't a block, they're an entity 21:22 kaeza jordan4ibanez, I have an animated chest model, can you make animated chests? 21:22 jordan4ibanez Yes 21:22 kaeza hold on 21:22 mauvebic attach the chest formspec to the chest entity 21:24 kaeza jordan4ibanez, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/animated_chest.zip 21:25 kaeza aww... sorry, you don't have blender right? 21:25 jordan4ibanez \o/ 21:25 jordan4ibanez I do 21:25 jordan4ibanez What do I export this as? 21:26 kaeza .x or .b3d 21:28 jordan4ibanez Can You upload an exported version so I can start working on the code now? 21:28 kaeza gime a sec 21:29 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/animated_chest_x.zip 21:29 kaeza in .x format 21:29 Jscherro got it to work :) tnx vanessa 21:30 kaeza if it needs some tweaks, ping me. I haven't tested if scale/rotation is right 21:31 VanessaE Jscherro: excellent 21:37 jordan4ibanez kaeza what is the opening animation key frames? 21:37 jordan4ibanez are* 21:38 kaeza hmm lemme check... the model is not mine 21:39 kaeza credits go to STHGOM 21:39 Jscherro how do i do so people dont spawn with full inv when they enter my server? 21:39 Jscherro i want people who join my server to make their own starting gear and tools 21:41 paxcoder remind me, do i need 0.4.x or unstable? 21:41 paxcoder for 0.4.5 21:43 paxcoder umm yello? 21:43 Jscherro sry no idea 21:47 kaeza frack... this thing does not even have animations :( 21:49 paxcoder cisoun, 0.4.x stable, or unstable/github ? 21:49 paxcoder for the 0.4.5 version? 21:50 PilzAdam paxcoder, use the stable_0.4 branch 21:50 PilzAdam it contains always the latest stable release 21:50 paxcoder which iiis? 21:50 PilzAdam 0.4.5 21:50 paxcoder kthx 21:50 PilzAdam or just checkout the 0.4.5 tag 21:51 paxcoder meh, I'm a git with git 21:52 jordan4ibanez kaeza please use ctrl+a and apply scale rotatation and location 21:52 PilzAdam you can checkout tags like normal branches 21:52 PilzAdam you just cant push to tags (as if you would push to branches) 21:52 jordan4ibanez kaeza please use ctrl+a and apply scale rotatation and location 21:53 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, double post? 21:53 jordan4ibanez no my client quit 21:53 kaeza jordan4ibanez, ah... reduce it half the size? 21:57 jordan4ibanez No I mean it doesn't have a texture http://i.imgur.com/U205Rkc.png 21:57 jordan4ibanez No I mean it doesn't have a texture http://i.imgur.com/U205Rkc.png 21:58 kaeza hrm.... 21:58 kaeza I just happened to have that model around 21:59 paxcoder Jordach, cool story, bro. Say it again. 21:59 paxcoder jordan4ibanez * 21:59 kaeza I'm completely clueless about how to use blender 21:59 paxcoder autocompletelyfails 21:59 kaeza brb 22:02 jordan4ibanez I just realized 22:02 jordan4ibanez I am making a chest entity 22:02 jordan4ibanez carts+chest=? 22:02 jordan4ibanez profit? 22:02 paxcoder XD 22:03 paxcoder mining operations just got easier 22:03 paxcoder and... more horizontal 22:04 jordan4ibanez Yep, and the funny part is that that makes a lot of sense now, I always wondered how jeb attached a chest to a minecart 22:20 jordan4ibanez So what can I export an animated entitiy as? 22:21 PilzAdam .x 22:21 jordan4ibanez anything else? 22:22 jordan4ibanez what exactly is a .x file called? There is no .x in the blender exporter 22:23 PilzAdam you can also use .b3d 22:23 PilzAdam and there is a .x exporter in blender, but you have to enable it somewhere 22:24 jordan4ibanez yeah I just did 22:24 jordan4ibanez I'm still kind of waking back up to this 22:26 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: buckets are now left click to pick up and right to place 22:26 PilzAdam yes 22:26 ShadowNinja that is inconsistent 22:27 PilzAdam there was a vote in the forum 22:27 PilzAdam s/vote/poll 22:28 ShadowNinja and right-clicking on a door places it, bad if it was lava 22:30 lamefun inconsistent? blocks are mined with left, placed with right and everything else is 22:31 ShadowNinja lamefun: yes, if buckets place with right-click they should pick up with right click 22:32 PilzAdam an empty bucket is a tool to "dig" water 22:32 PilzAdam and you dig with leftclick 22:32 ShadowNinja I see what you mean but it feels weird 22:35 jordan4ibanez The wittlest chest http://i.imgur.com/OR63E6n.png 22:37 jordan4ibanez exactly 5 times bigger was perfect http://i.imgur.com/CkSSuuy.png 22:40 Jscherro how do i use a furnace lol 22:40 Jscherro put in some wood and it says out of fuel 22:40 Jscherro trying to get some coal for torches 22:40 mauvebic kaeza's a genius 22:41 mauvebic just solved my massive binvox spawning problem with coroutines 22:41 PilzAdam Jscherro, you cant get coal out of wood 22:41 Jscherro how do i get coal then? 22:41 PilzAdam go minging 22:41 Jscherro k 22:41 mauvebic watching voyager being spawned line by line lol 22:42 Kacey hi all 22:43 kaeza mauvebic, lol 22:43 kaeza just a small trick 22:43 kaeza hey Kacey 22:44 Kacey mauvebic, you should make VanessaE's pipeworks store water and make valves work 22:44 Kacey hi kaeza 22:44 Kacey (i would but i am no good at coding) 22:45 mauvebic only thing missing now is to teleport the player every n number of nodes to load the region 22:45 mauvebic though with caves disabled thats less of a priority now 22:45 mauvebic still with binoxes loading slowly i can move and check my compass/map 22:46 mauvebic its like watching a 3d printer in action lol 22:46 kaeza hehe 22:46 kaeza It's better than loking up the server I guess :P 22:46 kaeza +c 22:46 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4950&p=3 22:47 mauvebic and i can restrict each user to one thread on binvox 22:47 kaeza thexyz, wut 22:47 thexyz wtf? 22:47 mauvebic ban 22:47 kaeza Is that allowed in there?? 22:47 kaeza +1 ban 22:48 mauvebic memes ok, porn no 22:48 PilzAdam the ban hammer has to decide 22:48 thexyz but 22:49 thexyz it's no porn! 22:49 VanessaE thexyz: it doesn't belong. 22:49 VanessaE but I wouldn't call it porn either. 22:49 mauvebic yeah but imagine all the parents who will find that in the cache 22:49 mauvebic the school libraries, lol 22:49 mauvebic theyll block minetest lol 22:49 mauvebic without really knowing why lol 22:49 VanessaE (I warned you guys that "Offtopic" was a bad idea.) 22:49 thexyz I'll just cut it out 22:50 PilzAdam you know that also childreen play minetest? 22:50 mauvebic offtopic aint the problem, its the maturity of some people posting there lol 22:50 kaeza agreed 22:50 kaeza topics like "What other voxel games have" are good 22:50 mauvebic its funny youd rather close a forum than deal with the person posting it :P 22:51 thexyz well, google safe search almiost won this time 22:51 thexyz almost.. 22:52 thexyz meh, it still sucks 22:52 dante123 hi all transferred world the kids were working on to my server and that is working. Now I have a question, there are some blocks I cant seem to destroy....do I have to use pulverize command or what? 22:52 thexyz dante123: try worldedit 22:53 thexyz also, what are those blocks? 22:53 mauvebic kaeza as much as coroutines work for binvox, the threaded mapp only pops up once and never again, ? 22:53 kaeza wut 22:53 kaeza lemme check that 22:53 VanessaE dante123: an easier idea might be to get the maptools mod, then /giveme maptools:pick_admin 22:53 mauvebic i click the tool, i get the map the first time, every other click after that nothing 22:53 VanessaE use that to destroy the offending blocks. 22:54 mauvebic i gots 0.4.5 22:55 khonkhortisan ooh, luajit is a pull request now 22:55 PilzAdam but its wrong 22:55 khonkhortisan oh 22:55 PilzAdam it shouldnt be included into minetest 22:55 PilzAdam oh, that reminds me: Ill add common to ohloh 22:55 mauvebic ^ 22:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: the pull request shouldn't, or luajit shouldn't? 22:56 PilzAdam luajit shouldnt 22:57 khonkhortisan Should it be added as a compile option only? 22:57 mauvebic that yeah 22:57 mauvebic but i dont want it default 22:57 mauvebic (imo) 22:57 VanessaE why? 22:57 PilzAdam best would be: use luajit if found, else compile the Lua shipped with minetest 22:58 kaeza mauvebic, it does work for me 22:58 mauvebic no noticeable different when i tried it, rather stick to mainstream lua 22:58 mauvebic *difference 22:58 VanessaE mauvebic: because what you do doesn't benefit from it. 22:58 dante123 okay, so the main goal is for the kids to make a pioneer or native village, eventually have some animals and garden/crops. I dont want to add the animals and plants until they have the main buildings and village built. What mods can I add that will give cool features for the village and maybe improve looks before I bring in the animal/plant ones. I want to avoid lag if possible but still give cool items. VanessaE suggested the homedecor and 22:58 dante123 moreblocks....any others 22:58 VanessaE you're stressing the living shit out of the map loader/gen/emerge code 22:59 mauvebic well the spawns were finishing faster but the job never really finished - which makes me think its just fancy garbage collection 22:59 VanessaE mauvebic: whatever it is, it ain't Lua that's the problem. 22:59 PilzAdam dante123, homedecor goes against the voxel idea of minetest 22:59 VanessaE (beyond a certain point though) 22:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: why? 90% of the stuff in homedecor uses default draw types. 23:00 PilzAdam and 10% not 23:00 mauvebic what i do now isn't stressing 0.4.5 23:00 dante123 Cant seem to locate the maptools mod 23:00 PilzAdam and I also mix it up with 3D furniture 23:00 PilzAdam so its prolly not that bad... 23:00 VanessaE dante123: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882 23:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: just because *you* don't like non-blocky items doesn't mean everyone else feels the same way. 23:01 PilzAdam then go play bf3 if you want non blocky games 23:01 VanessaE ... 23:01 Jscherro anyone want to test out my server? :) 23:01 VanessaE remove all the non-blocky drawtypes if you want a strictly-blocky worlds. 23:01 VanessaE -s 23:01 Jscherro and maybe give some advice on what mods should be put on it ect 23:02 PilzAdam Jscherro, IP and port? 23:02 Jscherro its in the game browser 23:02 Jscherro 95.166.106.34:30000 23:02 PilzAdam "Powernoobs Minetest server"? 23:02 Jscherro the powernoob one 23:02 Jscherro ye 23:03 kaeza PilzAdam, playing Minetest is about fun; not having everything 100% blocky 23:03 kaeza +necessarily 23:03 jin_xi infidel 23:03 PilzAdam 100% blocky _is_ fun 23:03 dante123 where do you put mods in linux version 23:03 Jscherro just let me know if its laggy 23:03 PilzAdam Jscherro, I spawned on a 10x10 island... 23:04 kaeza dante123, ~/.minetest/mods/minetest 23:04 mauvebic i dunno before nodeboxes i found the selection of nodes to be sameish 23:04 mauvebic plus with people being anal on 16 pixel textures theres only so many combinations of blocks you can have lol 23:04 kaeza or /mods/minetest for ruRUN_IN_PLACE version 23:04 kaeza -ru 23:05 thexyz ru! 23:05 kaeza well... IIRC DMs and Oerkkis weren't blocky 23:05 kaeza (I mean the textures) 23:06 dante123 when I go into /.minetest the only folders in there are cache and worlds 23:06 PilzAdam kaeza, guess why they arent in the game anymore :-) 23:06 kaeza PilzAdam, not because of that reason :) 23:08 dante123 bash: /home/bill/.minetest/mods/minetest: No such file or directory 23:08 kaeza mkdir -p ~/.minetest/mods/minetest 23:08 kaeza :) 23:08 dante123 ok 23:10 dante123 thanks, on windows those directories are already there.....i thought i had done something wrong 23:10 kaeza dante123, they are there if you download the source or a "run in place" version, but are not created by the game (?) 23:12 Exio i'm l33t and because that i play frets on fire what is wrote in python in an intel celeron with an old igp 23:12 Exio 400 ms of delay or so 23:12 dante123 i downloaded the build for ubuntu/mint.....okay just started server and got all black screen and in lower left corner blocks appearing and changing...different types....is that normal? 23:13 dante123 ok its all good now 23:13 VanessaE you get that on Linux?? 23:13 VanessaE am I like, the only person whose minetest install doesn't do that?? 23:14 dante123 /giveme maptools:pick_admin said it could not be added to inventory 23:15 lamefun anyone working on C++ modding API? 23:15 VanessaE dante123: /mods 23:15 VanessaE does "maptools" appear in the list? 23:15 Exio lamefun: "C++ modding API"? 23:16 lamefun yes 23:16 lamefun instead of Lua 23:16 Exio there is no "a standard way" for coding mods in C++, as far as i know 23:16 dante123 iokay now it added pick_admin to inventory 23:16 dante123 is there a special colour for this pick 23:16 dante123 pink 23:17 VanessaE pinkish-purple 23:17 Exio you can try looking around in dev.minetest.net, and if you don't get info for the stuff, you will need to "look around" in the code :P 23:17 VanessaE it destroys pretty much anything, most of the time instantly. 23:17 dante123 it still won't let me destroy this block, vanessaE do you want to try? same ip 23:17 VanessaE wtf? 23:17 VanessaE sure 23:17 VanessaE hold 23:17 Exio probably other people can help you (in -dev?) for that thing, i only know the basics for configs :P 23:18 VanessaE I'll bite :-) 23:18 Deivan How I send a message to the F10 terminal? 23:18 VanessaE just type. 23:18 Deivan I only have success using minetest.log("error","message") 23:19 Deivan Maybe this one: minetest.chat_send_player(name, text) 23:19 Deivan I will try now. AFK 23:21 Deivan Is it. I release my new version of the lava cooling renewed now. :D 23:21 Deivan Cya. 23:21 Deivan AFK 23:25 VanessaE dante123: first time I've actually *seen* that in a map, in person 23:26 dante123 ok 23:26 VanessaE (for the rest of the channel: the bug where occasionally a hand can be found just floating in the air) 23:26 Deivan The thing from the Addams? 23:26 Deivan :-o 23:26 VanessaE haha 23:26 dante123 well i cant do anything with those little blocks 23:27 PilzAdam doesnt minimal use the hand texture for the testing tool? 23:27 Exio wtf VanessaE 23:27 VanessaE when I picked it up, I got a CONTENT_IGNORE warning while trying to replace air 23:27 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2003212013%20-%2007:21:51%20PM.png 23:27 VanessaE (HDX texture pack, but that's a hand and a half-not-quite-falling sand entity) 23:28 dante123 how come your resolution is so much better 23:28 dante123 than mine in that picture 23:28 VanessaE dante123: I use a custom texture pack. 23:28 dante123 which one 23:28 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1583 23:28 VanessaE that one. 23:30 dante123 ok 23:30 dante123 any ideas why i cant get rid of those little blocks 23:31 VanessaE did you sign out/in? your server thinks you're dead :-) 23:32 dante123 i ended it and just restarted 23:32 VanessaE (you were laying down the whole time I was online) 23:32 dante123 hmm...thats not what I saw 23:32 dante123 come back in 23:32 VanessaE ok, now just walk up close, point the white crosshairs at the object, and left-click. 23:32 VanessaE hah! 23:32 VanessaE you're still lying down 23:32 VanessaE wtf? 23:33 VanessaE you exited to OS and restarted the client/server completely? 23:33 dante123 yes 23:33 dante123 could it be because this map was originally on windows server 23:33 VanessaE doubt it 23:34 VanessaE ok, experiment. I'm going to "kill" you and see what happens 23:34 VanessaE wtf? 23:35 VanessaE "choppy 2, fleshy 3". tjay' 23:35 VanessaE "choppy 2, fleshy 3". that's normal 23:35 dante123 i may have turned off damage 23:35 VanessaE but "hp 0"?? 23:35 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol 23:35 jojoa1997|Tablet My client never shut off 23:35 VanessaE try exiting to the menu, reset damage to "on", then start the server again 23:36 VanessaE then turn it back off again leter 23:36 VanessaE later* 23:36 jojoa1997|Tablet What you talking about sum it up I spent want tibread liogs 23:37 Kacey cgmr doesn't like the word sapling 23:37 jojoa1997|Tablet I don't want to read logs 23:38 VanessaE read 'em anyway :) 23:38 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh o saw way far h up 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet Kettles sovkhozes Lazuli's Hackensack 23:40 jojoa1997|Tablet Oops wrong channel 23:41 Kacey lol Menche'sserver has a jungle tree infestation lol 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet Ns help 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet How do I do the help command for irc 23:41 jojoa1997|Tablet I want to add a name to my account here 23:42 VanessaE no idea 23:43 VanessaE try /help :-) 23:43 jojoa1997|Tablet /ns hekp 23:43 jojoa1997|Tablet Help 23:43 VanessaE you didn't say nickserv 23:44 kaeza VanessaE, /ns == /msg nickserv 23:44 kaeza :P 23:44 VanessaE I know that. 23:44 VanessaE I meant he never mentioned it before. 23:44 VanessaE I figured he wanted to set a custom nick for his client 23:44 jojoa1997|Tablet Nope 23:45 * kaeza wil read backlog and shut up from now on 23:45 kaeza +l 23:45 VanessaE heh 23:45 kaeza :P 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet CAN I HAV MORE THAN 2 REGISTERED NAMES 23:46 VanessaE yes 23:46 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry caps 23:46 VanessaE you just need to tell nickserv they're all associated..something about groups I think 23:46 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, /nick newnick 23:46 kaeza then /ns group 23:47 kaeza (you must be logged into the account you want to group the nick to) 23:48 jojoa1997|OFF i already am on my account 23:49 jojoa1997_Tablet grrr 23:49 khonkhortisan what's the default drop item button? 23:49 PilzAdam q 23:53 kaeza wut 23:57 jojoa1997_Tablet how do i set the letter G or B to do something 23:57 Exio can't play with this computer :( 23:57 Exio 10 or 15 FPS in .. frets on fire 23:57 Exio jojoa1997_Tablet: what something and where 23:58 jojoa1997_Tablet ? 23:58 Exio [20:57:01] how do i set the letter G or B to do something 23:58 jojoa1997_Tablet OH I WANT TO MAKE IT WHERE i press b and a fromspec opens or a function occurs 23:58 Exio ah 23:58 PilzAdam not possible with current API 23:59 jojoa1997_Tablet why 23:59 Exio because nobody coded that 23:59 jojoa1997_Tablet i know it isnt but i am taking myslef through the steps why 23:59 Exio go ahead, learn c++ and do it 23:59 PilzAdam because the server only gets the keys from the client that have a use 23:59 jojoa1997_Tablet why not let all the keys have a potential uses 23:59 PilzAdam see what Exio said