Time Nick Message 00:00 STHGOM what kind? 00:00 Kacey machines 00:00 Kacey not mesecons or technic 00:05 khonkhortisan I remember seeing a node with a face on it that dug stuff 00:07 khonkhortisan it should be possible to throw wood into an engine, have the fire boil some water, have the steam go through a pipe, and power a train - though maybe not on the current rail. 00:07 STHGOM like cars? 00:09 Kacey khonkhortisan, that is the workers mod 00:20 STHGOM bye 00:29 jojoa1997 proller you there? 00:38 Kacey nope 01:04 khonkhortisan gif: http://76.121.156.73/mt/diagonal_rail.gif 01:15 Kacey cool 01:17 Kacey kaeza, you around? 01:24 sokomine hm. the smallest circle might even provide some of the images i'm looking for. it almost looks like a wooden wheel 01:25 OWNSyouAll Is there any plans to move the default.generate_ore into the api? 01:27 sokomine sorry, no idea 01:28 Exio into the api? what? 01:29 Exio it is "public" (or whatever it should be called), afaik you can use it if you use "default.generate_ore" and the mod has default in the dependencies (or whatever it is spelled :P) 01:30 Exio and there are plans for moving the ore generation to the C++ core/engine 01:30 Exio for reducing the load in lua 01:31 OWNSyouAll Exio: ah k thanks 02:02 Kacey idiots at school... 02:04 Exio kill them with fire 02:04 Exio (and be sure there are not water near) 02:04 Kacey wish i could 02:04 Exio maybe i can help 02:05 Kacey but i am already a security threat as it is 02:05 Exio 1000 USD every person, you pay the travel from my country to where you live 02:06 Kacey naw 3 pounds of dynamite would kill 'em all 02:07 Exio if you want dynamite i make a discout, 1500 USD / 4 people >:D 02:08 Kacey i can get dynamite 3 stciks for $1 02:09 khonkhortisan I typed in a 1 and google gave me this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 02:19 * Kacey wants a soft body physics game 02:21 khonkhortisan blender is horrible at that 02:24 Kacey im going to use cryengine 3 02:25 tripod naw 02:26 tripod IM going to use cry3 02:27 khonkhortisan The pictures of cry321 show the most obvious difference being light rays, light glow, and light. 02:27 mrtux Hi, how do I replace nodes in minetest? 02:27 mrtux I want to replace steel blocks with air 02:27 khonkhortisan minetest.env:add_node(pos, node) 02:27 khonkhortisan minetest.env:remove_node(pos) turns it to air 02:27 mrtux i mean in worldedit 02:27 khonkhortisan And what kind of steel block do you mean? Before it is dug, or after smelting? 02:27 mrtux sorry 02:28 khonkhortisan oh. 02:28 Kacey //set air 02:28 mrtux ok thanks 02:28 mrtux worked 02:28 khonkhortisan "//replace stone_with_iron air" or "//replace steel_block air" 02:28 khonkhortisan if you had more than that selected 02:29 khonkhortisan also, //fixlight if it goes bad. 02:29 mrtux thank you khonkhortisan and Kacey 02:29 khonkhortisan you're welcome 02:29 khonkhortisan Kacey you're welcome 02:29 Kacey ? 02:29 tripod mrtux you play xonotic? or a different mrtux 02:29 khonkhortisan can't do a /you, only /me 02:30 mrtux tripod, no. 02:30 tripod okay 02:30 tripod good. 02:30 khonkhortisan I'm bad at xonotic 02:31 * Kacey has the best mod idea 02:37 khonkhortisan minetest/minetest_game seems really slow to pull from 02:41 NekoGloop|Laptop Hai 02:41 khonkhortisan haiy'lo 02:41 Kacey no 02:43 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArM7sQJz0-Y 02:50 Kacey hahaha 02:52 Kacey aaw 02:53 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZODOCqNocA 02:54 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/Olge3or.jpg 02:55 hmmmm woo 02:56 Kacey lol i wish i could just make a mod like that... 02:56 khonkhortisan portal? stargate? teleporter? 02:56 RealBadAngel it is stargate 02:56 RealBadAngel with animated event horizon 02:56 khonkhortisan I didn't see the symbols on it, I thought it could be something else 02:57 khonkhortisan I take it you didn't add those tic-tac-toe lines yourself. 02:58 khonkhortisan are those beer trees? :) 02:58 hmmmm i don't suppose we can get jaffa mobs 02:59 hmmmm really bad angel, the facedir stuff 02:59 * khonkhortisan listens to the coming conversation 03:00 RealBadAngel what about it? 03:00 hmmmm where is that again? 03:00 hmmmm there is no pull request for it and i couldn't find it 03:00 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4807 03:01 hmmmm forum post 03:01 khonkhortisan and fork 03:01 RealBadAngel it on my github, but i want it to come with a little more features that are not finished yet 03:01 RealBadAngel per box textures and also animated ones 03:02 hmmmm ok 03:02 RealBadAngel i think whole update will be ready by weekend 03:02 khonkhortisan how do I search commits on github? 03:02 hmmmm great 03:02 RealBadAngel you can merge by now get_all_craft_recipes 03:03 RealBadAngel since 0.4.5 is out 03:03 hmmmm yea 03:03 hmmmm well i can't just merge it 03:03 hmmmm i have to manually do all that 03:03 RealBadAngel ah, split? 03:03 hmmmm yeah the split 03:03 hmmmm it's not like it's too bad though 03:03 hmmmm this screwed up a lot of peoples' patches 03:04 RealBadAngel btw seen this mega patch with dozens of features 03:04 hmmmm yeah 03:04 hmmmm that is not being merged like that 03:04 RealBadAngel i noticed enchant and smoke craft methods 03:05 RealBadAngel imho something else shall be done, just allow register new craft type 03:05 hmmmm enchanting, no idea about that, but it's something that should strictly be done in lua 03:05 hmmmm can be made into a mod 03:05 hmmmm yeah i guess i should take an actual look at it 03:06 RealBadAngel better add possibility to register new ones 03:06 hmmmm obviously 03:07 RealBadAngel this can unify ways of adding new machines/crafters or whatever 03:07 ShadowNinja New cloud menu background: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/menu_clouds Screenshot: http://ubuntuone.com/2AR2XT7php7PtTpZ29PICm 03:08 * VanessaE peeks in 03:08 hmmmm shadowninja, just the guy 03:08 hmmmm https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commits/master 03:08 hmmmm so that's what i ended up doing 03:09 hmmmm and unescapeString(), really, is generic enough to be moved to util/string.cpp 03:09 hmmmm string.h even, it's small enough to make a good candidate for inlining 03:09 hmmmm https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/54148290c81c13a1df4076a5af78dc2d321647fe specifically 03:10 ShadowNinja nice 03:10 hmmmm but 03:10 ShadowNinja so \[ works? 03:10 hmmmm i need you to test if that's actually what you want 03:10 hmmmm in theory, yes 03:11 hmmmm i can't really test it because i don't know how to use formspec. i tried modifying the formspec strings slightly for a couple builtin things but they seemed to have no effect at all 03:11 ShadowNinja you forgot to change minetest.escape_formspec() 03:11 hmmmm ah yeah i did 03:13 ShadowNinja btw do you like the cloud background? 03:14 ShadowNinja it can be disabled do you can still use the menubackground branch 03:14 hmmmm i do actually 03:14 hmmmm i need to take a closer look at that 03:14 hmmmm hopefully after this flood of merges i can get back to working on my own stuff 03:14 ShadowNinja you can probably optimize it 03:14 hmmmm yeah 03:14 hmmmm did you take the cloud code from clouds.cpp? 03:15 hmmmm ah yes good 03:15 ShadowNinja I used krisi's code, so yes 03:15 hmmmm krisi? 03:15 VanessaE cloud background? How does this affect texture packs that supply menulogo.png? 03:15 ShadowNinja you can disable it 03:16 hmmmm it uses menulogo-small.png 03:16 hmmmm so it would ignore the texture pack's logo 03:16 VanessaE :( 03:17 ShadowNinja yes, for the bottom in the main window with it disabled and for the credits 03:17 ShadowNinja it can be renamed of course 03:17 hmmmm if you were to use regular menulogo it probably would look really bad because it needs transparency 03:17 VanessaE well then I hope I can override menulogo-small.png or something then 03:17 ShadowNinja yes, you can 03:18 ShadowNinja and the big one 03:18 VanessaE hmmmm: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2003052013%20-%2010:18:02%20PM.png 03:18 VanessaE HDX with a custom menulogo.png 03:19 ShadowNinja that will still work 03:19 VanessaE oh, good 03:19 hmmmm wwwwwwoooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww lame 03:20 hmmmm you should've made the logo bigger if you wanted it to look good and not non-pixelated 03:20 VanessaE hmmmm: you can't. 03:20 VanessaE it gets scaled up by 4x by the engine. 03:20 hmmmm what? why not 03:20 hmmmm welp 03:20 ShadowNinja maybe I should have the old menulogo and menusplash or something 03:20 VanessaE which sucks rocks 03:20 hmmmm that needs to be fixed 03:20 VanessaE agreed 03:20 hmmmm low priority though 03:21 VanessaE I have a beautiful high-rez version of that logo just waiting for such a fix. 03:21 VanessaE ShadowNinja: +1 03:21 VanessaE menusplash.png 03:21 ShadowNinja should it show up with the old tiled background? 03:22 VanessaE if menusplash.png is provided, it should override menubg.png and be scaled to fit the window size 03:22 VanessaE or, 03:22 VanessaE it should be made possible for menubg.png to just fill the window if the provided image is large enough 03:23 VanessaE this might be easier and perhaps more logical than adding another image overlaty 03:23 VanessaE overlay* 03:23 ShadowNinja no, that would look terrible 03:23 VanessaE if the provided image is large enough - e.g. if it'x bigger than, say, 256px 03:23 ShadowNinja having a huge MINETEST logo? 03:23 hmmmm perhaps you want a blank menusplash and just a menubg.png with your text 03:23 ShadowNinja ^ 03:24 VanessaE that might work too 03:24 VanessaE ok, so menubg.png shows through wherever menusplash.png is transparent. 03:24 ShadowNinja yes 03:24 VanessaE and then menulogo.png layered atop that 03:26 VanessaE I like this idea actually. 03:26 ShadowNinja menulogo would be on the bottom, splash on the top 03:26 VanessaE right 03:28 VanessaE as long as it's 100% backward-compatible, I'm happy :D 03:29 ShadowNinja it should, the only difference will be that you will have the splash on old texture packs 03:34 ShadowNinja How it looks with clouds off now: http://ubuntuone.com/3pesXmpq9rFBYOEMa7Q3wo 03:34 VanessaE works for me 03:39 ShadowNinja It seems like there are two copies of the same code here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1523 and line 1557, changing the second one works but why are there two? 03:40 khonkhortisan probably the stuff in between is important 03:43 ShadowNinja seems to just draw something while it waits for other menus to close 03:50 hmmmm ahh 03:50 hmmmm in Lua, do you need to escape a backslash in a string? 03:50 hmmmm "\\" is actually \ 03:50 hmmmm i didn't think lua would've needed that 03:52 ShadowNinja hmmm: I think you do, \( just gave me ( 03:52 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I think I fixed your menulogo issue 03:53 VanessaE the scaling issue? 03:53 ShadowNinja yes 03:53 VanessaE sweet 03:54 ShadowNinja screenshot in a sec... 03:55 ShadowNinja http://ubuntuone.com/5EXeOWQAvKQiaduNluvOQ9 03:57 VanessaE er.. a bit hard to tell from that shot but I'll take yer word for it :) 03:58 ShadowNinja maybe I should have chosen an image that wasn't pixelated-looking :-) 03:59 VanessaE yep :) 03:59 VanessaE but that's okay 04:00 hmmmm ShadowNinja: https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/04171501f470657786dfcaa81155427d38594d29 04:00 hmmmm care to test that out? 04:00 hmmmm if it works, i'll squash it all and merge it 04:02 ShadowNinja should I draw the menulogo when clouds are enabled? 04:02 ShadowNinja hmmmm: nice, tested? 04:02 hmmmm no it's not tested, i need you to test it 04:02 hmmmm since i don't know how to test it 04:07 ShadowNinja compiling... 04:09 hmmmm you should make a forum topic asking people how they like the cloud menu 04:09 hmmmm or maybe we'll keep it on as default until too many people bitch about it 04:10 ShadowNinja spawning could be tweaked, I spawned 1000 nodes away from 0,0 and fell and took damage 04:11 hmmmm one of these days i'm going to find the problem with that and fix it once and for all 04:11 hmmmm that's not real damage though, if you log out and back in it'll be back to full health 04:12 hmmmm anyway is the formspec escape thing working as desired? 04:12 ShadowNinja no, fall damage, it is real 04:12 ShadowNinja one sec... 04:13 ShadowNinja yes 04:15 hmmmm alright so i can squash those all together 04:16 ShadowNinja you can also escape , and ; correct? 04:16 hmmmm yes 04:16 hmmmm you *could*, but you'd need to modify the lua escape function 04:17 hmmmm every character, in theory, should work. 04:17 ShadowNinja well add those while you're at it 04:18 ShadowNinja back to the cloud background, should the menulogo always be displayed? 04:18 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ^ 04:20 * VanessaE scrolls 04:20 VanessaE um 04:20 VanessaE hm 04:20 VanessaE good question 04:21 VanessaE maybe if the default menu logo looks good against the clouds, why not? 04:21 ShadowNinja that has to be edited btw, the -c55 removed 04:21 VanessaE yes 04:22 VanessaE I was beginning to wonder about that 04:25 khonkhortisan I'll have one commit/pull request each for four different repos. 04:26 ShadowNinja should the menulogo resize based on window size? 04:27 VanessaE yes 04:27 VanessaE to a degree 04:27 hmmmm alright well you get that ironed out and i'll come back to it 04:27 VanessaE since the menu doesn't change size 04:27 hmmmm now for RBA's things 04:27 VanessaE maybe have the logo resize in steps, e.g. 1x, 2x, 3x... 04:28 VanessaE actually strike that 04:28 VanessaE just scale it smoothly 04:29 VanessaE at least bicubic if not lanczos. 04:29 ShadowNinja should it be by height or width? 04:31 ShadowNinja maybe I can do both... 04:32 VanessaE keep it aspect-correct, scale according to the largest of the height or width 04:32 VanessaE that way all that'll happen is some portions may end up off-screen if the image is not sized properly. 04:32 VanessaE er, *smallest* of height or width I mean 04:33 VanessaE you get the point 04:34 hmmmm RealBadAngel, you fully tested your craft stuff, right? 04:34 hmmmm it's completely good to go? 04:34 hmmmm i'm trusting you that it works... 04:35 VanessaE he's probably in bed by now 04:35 hmmmm or up very early.... isn't poland like +7 hours? 04:35 VanessaE GMT +2 or so I think 04:35 VanessaE so yeah, +6 or 7 hours from here 04:36 NekoGloop|Laptop It's incorrect time, couldn't care less what it is. 04:36 NekoGloop|Laptop EST is Eastern *STANDARD* Time, dammit. 04:37 VanessaE heh 04:37 VanessaE ok fine, EDT then 04:37 hmmmm what's the status with the clouds thing 04:37 VanessaE whichever it is now 04:37 sokomine nice wheel done by vanessa: 04:37 sokomine http://www.zimg.eu/i/912705734 04:37 hmmmm still using 0.4.4-d1? 04:37 hmmmm for shame 04:38 VanessaE yeah really, 0.4.5 is out :) 04:38 ShadowNinja VanessaE: by smallest to you mean of the screensize, the image size or both? 04:38 ShadowNinja *do 04:38 VanessaE hmmmm: question... isn't there some way we can get a(n abbreviated) git commit hash appended to the displayed version number? 04:39 hmmmm umm.. 04:39 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I mean of the window size 04:39 ShadowNinja And what about the image size? 04:39 hmmmm i don't think we can unless you like running cmake every time you go to compile a new version 04:40 VanessaE actually I do that anyway 04:40 hmmmm yea the rest of the world doesn't 04:40 hmmmm sorry 04:40 sokomine actually right now i'm even using ...ah...it's d1 already...version modified by pilzadam for a flat world. working on blueprints in a normal world is rather annoying 04:40 VanessaE ShadowNinja: keep the aspect of the image; if the window shrinks by 10% in height, shrink the image height and width by 10%, etc. 04:40 hmmmm what's wrong with mg_params = flat? 04:40 hmmmm mg_flags rather 04:40 khonkhortisan How do I remove *all* local commits? 04:41 VanessaE hmmmm: the makefile can't go a quick git log and extract the current commit hash at build time? 04:41 khonkhortisan I have five, when I only need one, which I can recover from a .patch. 04:41 ShadowNinja I mean should I use the image width or height in scaling? 04:41 sokomine it wasn't available in -d1 to my knowledge? it seems quite new. read about it on the forum today 04:41 hmmmm i believe git fetch and then git reset fetch_head 04:41 hmmmm vanessa, now that you say so, it probably can.... but i have no idea how to do that 04:41 VanessaE ShadowNinja: um.. 04:41 khonkhortisan what's fetch_head? 04:41 hmmmm sokomine, it's been in there for about a month 04:42 VanessaE hmmmm: I do this: commit=`git log |grep commit|head -n 1 |cut -b 8-15` 04:42 hmmmm khon, don't mind me, i have no idea what i'm talking about 04:42 VanessaE when I build the server, my script does this to get the commit hash, abbreviates it, and plugs it into the motd 04:42 hmmmm it's FETCH_HEAD though, not fetch_head (if you are going to try that) 04:42 ShadowNinja I want a low-res image to work as well as a high-res one 04:43 VanessaE ShadowNinja: well, let's do this then: just scale the width of the image to match the window width, scale the height by the same factor. 04:44 sokomine that's good to know! can the trees be eliminiated as well? 04:44 ShadowNinja That is what I was doing 04:44 khonkhortisan ooh, "git reset --hard origin/master" does it (and is dangerous!) 04:44 VanessaE ShadowNinja: then let's just keep doing that. 04:45 hmmmm ah 04:45 hmmmm origin/master -> FETCH_HEAD iirc 04:45 hmmmm so basically the same thing 04:45 hmmmm sokomine, yes 04:45 khonkhortisan It didn't even replay my commits at the end, like git pull -rebase always does. 04:45 hmmmm you see with the mg_flags setting, the default is "trees, caves, v6_biome_blend" 04:46 khonkhortisan Someone asking about flatness again? 04:46 hmmmm if you remove trees then it'd make land without any trees, if you omit caves it'll generate without caves, without v6_biome_blend it'll get rid of the gross desert/grass blending 04:46 hmmmm add flat, it'll make land height constant 04:46 khonkhortisan oh, trees. Moretrees doesn't respect mg_flags yet. 04:46 hmmmm so if you make mg_flags = flat, it'll have no trees, no caves, no biome blending, and completely flat terrain 04:47 hmmmm i guess not... i wouldn't expect a mod to do that. 04:47 khonkhortisan completely flat + cactus + dry_shrub + junglegrass 04:47 khonkhortisan + biomes 04:47 hmmmm i don't really have control over what goes on in lualand 04:47 hmmmm if you want to remove desert completely you can do that too 04:48 ShadowNinja do these both look ok? http://ubuntuone.com/5AsoqVpdCJZUVtrrZrxbjr and http://ubuntuone.com/1H2nJoSi4johDDimKWeDf7 04:48 hmmmm set mgv6_freq_beach to -1 04:48 VanessaE ShadowNinja: looks fine to me 04:48 khonkhortisan I made the mistake of adding diagonal rails right over the top of connect_to_raillike, now I have to make it mergeable. 04:48 VanessaE ShadowNinja: except: 04:49 hmmmm err 04:49 hmmmm sorry 04:49 VanessaE one of the the two "minetest" logos should be something else, e.g. a small image like that little one to the right of "minetest-c55" 04:49 hmmmm mgv6_freq_desert = 1 04:49 VanessaE e.g. don't display "minetest" twice 04:49 sokomine hah! finally defeat the caves! that sounds great! guess i'll soon compile a new version :-) 04:49 hmmmm actually make it 5 04:49 khonkhortisan I see "minetest" thrice. 04:50 khonkhortisan No, five times. 04:50 NekoGloop|Laptop We could has kitteh. 04:50 khonkhortisan title, top-left, top, world, bottom. 04:50 khonkhortisan it has minetest written all over it 04:50 hmmmm you might forget that you're playing minetest 04:50 VanessaE well the identifier at the top left, should be ditched. 04:50 sokomine no, flat land is fine enough. the rest is less problematic 04:50 VanessaE at least in the menu 04:50 VanessaE we already have a graphical logo for it 04:51 VanessaE put the version number into the title bar. 04:51 NekoGloop|Laptop The only thing I've hated so far about windows 8 is WHY THE FUCK IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO DOWNLOAD JAPANESE CHARACTER SUPPORT. 04:52 khonkhortisan it's not just a .ttf? 04:52 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it's windows, remember? 04:52 VanessaE everything is overthought. 04:52 khonkhortisan Except who disabled the task manager. 04:52 khonkhortisan Admin is always blamed. 04:53 NekoGloop|Laptop Actually it might be. Just it has its own little download manager thingy so I'll never know. 04:53 NekoGloop|Laptop er, nvm. 04:53 NekoGloop|Laptop For some reason i thought he meant a patch file, not a font file. 04:54 ShadowNinja just the logo doesn't look right, anything I could wright there? 04:56 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix link if system json lib exists dd8593f2d6 2013-03-05T20:54:07-08:00 http://git.io/rkPk3A 04:56 VanessaE ShadowNinja: why not a small banner-sized strip from an in-game screenshot? 04:56 ShadowNinja nice commit ""! 04:57 VanessaE say from my server or redcrab's or anyone elses, where there's lots of stuff already built up 04:57 VanessaE else's 04:57 VanessaE and put the regular minetest logo next to the upper "MINETEST" image. 04:57 VanessaE (the splash) 04:58 ShadowNinja what do you mean?, add a watermark to the game? 04:58 VanessaE naw 04:58 ShadowNinja And should I remove the logo background? 04:58 VanessaE where you wrote "minetest" at the top, the menusplash image, stick the standard minetest logo right next to it. At the bottom, menulogo would be a short, wide strip cropped from an in-game screeshot. 04:59 VanessaE need a mockup? 04:59 ShadowNinja I think I got the splash part but maybe for the logo 04:59 VanessaE hold 05:00 * ShadowNinja steels PilzAdam's avatar 05:02 hmmmm also plizadam and thexyz haven't been around for a while... wonder what happened to them 05:02 hmmmm they don't commit stuff anymore 05:02 NekoGloop|Laptop They're taking a vacation 05:03 hmmmm hmm 05:03 hmmmm alright so what i think i'm going to do first is the dungeon code separation thing 05:03 hmmmm i dunno... celeron wasn't satisfied with the dungeons apparently but i certainly was and most others were too 05:04 hmmmm i'm bringing it back, except randomly in rooms there'll be a chest spawned with some loot 05:04 hmmmm and i'll have torches every so often 05:05 VanessaE damn it 05:05 hmmmm i wonder how i'm going to set node metadata with voxelmanipulator 05:06 hmmmm i'm probably going to have to make a node metadata queue to do after emerge and blit back to the map 05:09 VanessaE as for Pilzadam, he's been around 05:10 VanessaE mostly early in the day 05:10 VanessaE dunno why he isn't committing much 05:10 VanessaE ditto for thexyz. he's been around off and on too. 05:16 khonkhortisan waah! Somebody broke my rails! 05:16 VanessaE well I have that mock-up ready for shadowninja to look at when he shows up. 05:16 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/mockup-1.png 05:19 khonkhortisan oh. It was me :) 05:56 VanessaE zzz 06:07 MiJyn bye all 06:23 khonkhortisan Can I make a spoiler button on github? I want to give people the option to hide an animated gif. 06:23 VanessaE put the gif behind a clickable link to ompldr or so? 06:50 khonkhortisan okay 08:13 celeron55 > http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2003052013%20-%2010:18:02%20PM.png 08:13 celeron55 what the flying fuck? 08:13 celeron55 don't ever use that 08:13 celeron55 or any variation of it 08:14 celeron55 ShadowNinja's clouds and the simple pixelly "minetest" on top are fine-ish 09:32 TForsman proller: good morning 09:32 proller good 09:33 TForsman proller: when you build minetest yesterday in ubuntu, did you build it system wide or build it to "run in place" ? 09:34 proller cmake . ; make -j4 09:34 proller without params 09:35 TForsman ok 09:35 TForsman wonder whats default though, -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 or -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 09:38 thexyz RUN_IN_PLACE=1 is default on win 09:38 thexyz in all other cases RUN_IN_PLACE=0 is default 09:38 TForsman thanks 09:55 proller cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make -j8 цщклы 09:55 proller works 09:56 TForsman need to make sure not to run in place 09:57 TForsman as im building minetest for Foresight repository..... 10:01 TForsman is minetest building its own: libjthread.so for minetest? 10:02 kaeza morning all 10:04 thexyz TForsman: it depends 10:04 thexyz but when building with bundled jthread it should link statically 10:04 thexyz at least that's what it does for me 10:06 TForsman how about json now? used to work to have: libjson.so and now it renamed to: libjsoncpp.so and minetest needs to install that in /usr/lib64/libjsoncpp.so shouldent it be also building with bundled json-c package? 10:06 thexyz everything is linked statically 10:06 thexyz everything bundled 10:08 TForsman i just built minetest again, even updated cmake to 2.8.10.2 to make sure two different cmake fails..... 10:08 TForsman building minetest works fine, but it never installs libjsoncpp.so 10:08 TForsman minetest 10:08 TForsman minetest: error while loading shared libraries: libjsoncpp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 10:09 TForsman can see libjsoncpp.so in: minetest/minetest-master/src/json/ folder though 10:09 TForsman so seems it builds it fine, but nothing tells it to get it installed wide-system 10:10 thexyz apparently, you have BUILD_SHARED_LIBS set to true 10:10 thexyz by default (when BUILD_SHARED_LIBS is not present) cmake builds static libraries 10:12 TForsman like: -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON ? 10:13 TForsman or: -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=ON ? 10:13 TForsman if someone knows.... 10:16 TForsman testing again, see if it makes any difference 10:17 thexyz yes, you should have this one set to off 10:18 thexyz by default it doesn't set 10:19 TForsman ahh, off right 10:21 TForsman if minetest is building it's own libjthread.so, then it might need to be renamed. if someone already has jthread installed in their linux system and installs minetest from package manager, it will create a conflict right away. as jthread also provide that file 10:23 Calinou misa's pack and minecraft enhanced have been updated for moreblocks updates and 0.4.5, also added better mesecon support to misa's 10:24 TForsman someone played around too much with json and jthread :) been fine for few years until late february this year 10:28 thexyz minetest does not build .so library by default 10:28 thexyz any .so libraries 10:29 thexyz if you have BUILD_SHARED_LIBS set then you're at your own risk 10:30 TForsman ahh ok 10:30 thexyz have you managed to solve the issue yet? 10:30 TForsman just built it, installing it 10:31 TForsman thexyz: thank you, that was the issue, it's now stopped to ask about libjsoncpp.so and works to run the game 10:31 thexyz great 10:32 thexyz i wonder how've you ended with BUILD_SHARED_LIBS set to yes 10:32 TForsman for conary (package manager) it's set as default for BUILD_SHARED_LIBS to yes, as most libraries wants that. 10:33 TForsman not many packages demands to set to "no" 10:33 TForsman most packages has that as no as default from building with cmake, and need to provide "yes" instead 10:34 thexyz oh 10:35 TForsman im not building locally/manually. Building it "for making a distribution package" 10:35 thexyz i know 10:35 TForsman that's probably why I got more issues than most of the users 10:36 TForsman anyway, thanks again. Feels great to be back on track and can continue updating it without any issues, until something critical changes again :) 11:19 jojoa1997 hi sign on 2 players with the same name(different caps spots) on windows the names become: 11:19 jojoa1997 alpha, ALPHA0, alPHa1, ALpha2 11:19 jojoa1997 how can i do that in a mod 11:20 thexyz > intllib 11:20 thexyz > only US-ASCII characters 11:20 thexyz wow, great i18n you have there 11:21 jojoa1997 what is i18n 11:21 thexyz google it 11:21 jojoa1997 also where can i find initlib 11:22 jojoa1997 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4929 11:22 jojoa1997 there? 11:25 jojoa1997 thexyz how do i make mods do what minetest does with names 11:30 thexyz no idea 12:39 Infinity_69 hi 12:45 kwongo Hi 12:45 kwongo Anyone here? 12:54 Infinity_69|YT lawl 12:56 * Infinity_69 is making a new team for games, ViperForce 13:02 Infinity_69 hi 13:05 Infinity_69 LunaVorax 13:05 Infinity_69 crap :/ 13:20 Infinity_69 ping 13:20 Infinity_69 pong 14:12 NekoGloop|Laptop sfan's builds topic has OVER 9000!!!! views. 14:14 Infinity_69 It's over 9000! 14:14 Infinity_69 xD 14:14 Infinity_69 hey Neko, how good are you at PHP? 14:14 NekoGloop|Laptop Also paramat loves messing with mapgen. 14:14 NekoGloop|Laptop Infie, i know nil about it. 14:15 Infinity_69 ok 14:15 Infinity_69 :D 14:16 Infinity_69 btw, it was my b-day last saturday 14:16 Infinity_69 :D 14:16 Infinity_69 turned 14 14:16 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a party cap on Infie's head 14:16 * Infinity_69 colors it 14:17 * Infinity_69 sits on a chair and NekoGloop|Laptop lifts it up 13 times, then he passed out 14:17 NekoGloop|Laptop Wut? 14:18 Infinity_69 its a tradition here... 14:18 RealBadAngel hi all 14:19 Infinity_69 if a kid (less then 18 y/o) has a birthday, (s)he gets lifted up on a chair by the guests as many times as his/her age... 14:19 Infinity_69 hi 14:19 NekoGloop|Laptop I see. 14:20 Infinity_69 RBA, why doesnt the .htaccess run the .php file, it just shows the code... why? 14:20 Infinity_69 i made a 404.php file, and it just shows the code... 14:20 Infinity_69 not the site... 14:23 Kacey hi all 14:23 Infinity_69 hi kacey 14:23 Infinity_69 RealBadAngel 14:23 Infinity_69 [16:20] RBA, why doesnt the .htaccess run the .php file, it just shows the code... why? 14:23 RealBadAngel idk, not my area of interest 14:24 Infinity_69 oh ok 14:24 Infinity_69 got it to work :D 14:31 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix Irrlicht includes in scriptapi_* b3e7d15bd6 2013-03-06T06:31:06-08:00 http://git.io/HmJrNA 14:37 Infinity_69 bye yall 14:41 RealBadAngel looks like i do have all the necesary gfx/sfx and nodes definitions for Stargate thingy 14:42 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: pressing next in latest UI just flashes the next page for a second 14:43 RealBadAngel new features new bugs, shit 14:43 RealBadAngel i will take care of it later today 14:44 RealBadAngel got already on list 2 technic bugs and 1 UI 14:45 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, have you seen stargate screenshots? 14:45 jojoa1997 Real bad angel picks please 14:45 ShadowNinja as in the tv show? 14:46 tripod SG1 pretty kick ass 14:46 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/Olge3or.jpg 14:46 ShadowNinja What do you think of this: http://ubuntuone.com/2AR2XT7php7PtTpZ29PICm 14:46 RealBadAngel seen it, its great 14:46 jojoa1997 Is that a mod 14:46 ShadowNinja yes, I have seen the show 14:46 ShadowNinja you should use nodeboxes 14:47 RealBadAngel those are nodeboxes 14:47 RealBadAngel and event horizon is animated 14:47 ShadowNinja that is one flay nodebox 14:47 ShadowNinja *flat 14:48 RealBadAngel no 14:48 RealBadAngel this is 3x3 nodebox 14:48 RealBadAngel flat, yes 14:48 ShadowNinja yes, but I mean make it 3d 14:48 RealBadAngel no way with animations 14:48 jojoa1997 What is stargate 14:49 ShadowNinja 3d vs animated 14:49 ShadowNinja a tv show 14:49 ShadowNinja stargate is basicaly a big teleporter 14:49 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlRzQAt5xk 14:49 RealBadAngel this is stargate 14:50 * Diego puts a kitten on NekoGloop|Laptop's head 14:50 Diego whoops 14:50 RealBadAngel 10 seasons of Stargate Sg-1, 5 seasons of Stargate Atlantis and 2 seasons of Stargate Universe 14:50 ShadowNinja have you looked at that? 14:50 NekoGloop|Laptop Mrowr. 14:50 Diego stupid hexchat 14:50 RealBadAngel on of the most popular SF shows ever 14:50 RealBadAngel *one 14:52 RealBadAngel and youtube link is a fanmade video showing them all 14:52 RealBadAngel and rocks 14:52 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: http://ubuntuone.com/2AR2XT7php7PtTpZ29PICm 14:53 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, told ya already, nice work. i like it 14:53 ShadowNinja oh, sorry, didn't see it 14:53 ShadowNinja and thanks 14:53 RealBadAngel What do you think of this: http://ubuntuone.com/2AR2XT7php7PtTpZ29PICm 14:53 RealBadAngel seen it, its great 14:54 * ShadowNinja gets glasses 14:54 RealBadAngel lol 14:55 RealBadAngel i want to release preview of stargate mod today 14:55 RealBadAngel this is lookin fuckin awesome 14:56 RealBadAngel i spent 2 evenings to cut with gimp each frame of animation to be it 3x3 big 14:56 ShadowNinja Can anyone help me get the scaling for the top menusplash right? 14:57 ShadowNinja lol 14:57 RealBadAngel it is something wrong with the scaling 14:58 RealBadAngel take a look at my background for formspecs path 14:58 RealBadAngel i use ther images with proper scaling 14:58 ShadowNinja now it doesn't scale with the window and all I try either doen't show up or causes a floating-fount exception 14:59 ShadowNinja ok 15:00 * ShadowNinja clicks next repeatedly 15:00 RealBadAngel ok, im off to eat something, make stargate's spawn code and then take a nap 15:01 RealBadAngel i will fix all reported bugs later today 15:04 ShadowNinja I don't think that will work, can anyone else help? 15:12 Infinity_69 hi 15:12 Infinity_69 im back 15:13 NekoGloop|Laptop Instant Message Back? 15:14 kaeza lol 15:14 VanessaE celeron55: it's a mock-up to explain what I was talking about, not a proposed finished product. 15:15 Infinity_69 hi VanessaE 15:15 Infinity_69 i need an expert in licenses 15:15 Infinity_69 what is the best license for a commercial game? 15:16 ShadowNinja VanessaE: do you have that mockup? 15:17 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/mockup-1.png 15:18 ShadowNinja I see, however I have to get the splash to scale properly 15:18 Infinity_69 0.4.5? 15:18 Infinity_69 WTF 15:18 Infinity_69 What The F@!K! 15:20 VanessaE right 15:20 VanessaE Infinity_69: yep, marked as 0.4.5 day before yesterday 15:21 ShadowNinja VanessaE: do 90% of people time out on your server too? 15:21 ShadowNinja I don't have too many mods 15:22 VanessaE ShadowNinja: many people do the first time they connect, I dunno why that actually happens 15:22 Infinity_69 omg! 15:22 Infinity_69 :D 15:22 VanessaE otherwise usually they only time out if the client crashes 15:22 Infinity_69 players = 3D/2D 15:22 ShadowNinja well everyone seems to time out in about 10 seconds 15:22 ShadowNinja first login only 15:23 VanessaE my guess is the data being sent to the client is drowning out some kind of keepalive/ping that's going on at the same time. 15:23 ShadowNinja and that progress meter has to be added to the freetype build 15:23 Infinity_69 who has Xubuntu 12.04 15:24 VanessaE I have. 15:24 Infinity_69 rly? 15:24 Infinity_69 please compile 0.4.4 for me :) 15:24 Infinity_69 i mean 0,4,5 15:24 ShadowNinja why can't you do it? 15:24 Infinity_69 he wont install cMake 15:24 Infinity_69 idk the sudo pw 15:24 Infinity_69 -.- 15:25 ShadowNinja why do commandblock teleporters only work half or the time? 15:26 VanessaE Infinity_69: if you can't compile, use the daily builds ppa 15:27 VanessaE "the sudo password" would normally be the same password you log in with 15:30 ShadowNinja if you are in the sudoers file 15:30 VanessaE yes 15:30 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaLOASx7Lrc 15:30 NakedFury i wish for that in minetest 15:30 NakedFury instead of minecarts 15:40 ShadowNinja This junps beetween sizes, anyone know how to make it smoth? logosize *= screensize.Width/logotexture->getOriginalSize().Width; 15:48 VanessaE afternoon, adam 15:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:54 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=74174#p74174 15:54 thexyz khonkhortisan: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/528/files#L0R118 why is neighborRail a class and not a struct? 15:54 PilzAdam spam 15:54 thexyz PilzAdam: deleted 15:54 VanessaE ninja'd 15:55 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I decided to forget the dynamic scaling, how wide do you think the menulogo should be 15:55 VanessaE ShadowNinja: either scale it or don't include it. 15:55 VanessaE there's no in-between here, 15:56 ShadowNinja I mean it won't resize to window size but hd logos will work 15:56 VanessaE it needs to resize. 15:57 VanessaE you can't guarantee at all how big a given user's screen is 15:57 VanessaE what works in the 800x600 default window may not work properly on a 1280x1024 full screen display, or something like a 1920x1080 HD screen 15:57 ShadowNinja well give me some code that works and I will add it, but I have already spent enough time on this 15:57 ShadowNinja the main menu is also static 16:01 jojoa1997 proller 16:16 ShadowNinja Looks just about right now, screenshots coming 16:22 ShadowNinja What do you think? http://ubuntuone.com/5AsoqVpdCJZUVtrrZrxbjr http://ubuntuone.com/1H2nJoSi4johDDimKWeDf7 http://ubuntuone.com/5fWggn9YAr5O1mZj6ezOps http://ubuntuone.com/5BusWh4zwLnASHCGDKm08n 16:23 Infinity_69 hi 16:23 Infinity_69 VanessaE 16:23 Infinity_69 r u there? 16:24 VanessaE ShadowNinja: looks good 16:24 VanessaE Infinity_69: yes? 16:24 Infinity_69 where are the 0.4.5 changelogs? 16:24 VanessaE http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 16:24 PilzAdam Infinity_69, are you "Ragnar" in the forums= 16:24 PilzAdam *? 16:25 ShadowNinja should I draw the menulogo background? I think it would be better if I didn't 16:25 Infinity_69 PilzAdam, yes :) 16:25 VanessaE ShadowNinja: no, let the menulogo be as transparent as needed. 16:25 VanessaE (of course, you'll want to adjust the colors of the old one to fit well against the clouds/sky picture) 16:26 PilzAdam Infinity_69, you requested Estonian language, you can translate it here: http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/ 16:26 Infinity_69 thanks 16:26 Infinity_69 now, what do i translate actually? 16:26 Infinity_69 can you make a pic? 16:26 Infinity_69 and make an underline what to translate 16:27 Infinity_69 wait... 16:27 Infinity_69 the grey box after Source 16:27 Infinity_69 ? 16:28 PilzAdam 1) create an account 2) click on "Estonian" 3) Click on "Untranslated strings" 4) translate 16:28 Infinity_69 ok :) 16:29 * Calinou watches Infinity_69 translating as he puts bad words in the translation 16:30 Infinity_69 omg, im 14! 16:30 Infinity_69 im not a li'l kid anymore! 16:30 Infinity_69 im a young adult 16:30 VanessaE Calinou: a week later, backlash from the Estonian community. 16:30 VanessaE Infinity_69: 14 is still a child. 16:30 VanessaE sorry. 16:31 Infinity_69 yeah, from the outside, but im not a child from the inside o.o 16:32 * Calinou has 3 worlds: "test_world", "world", "only_chuck_norris_can_do_this" 16:32 Calinou third one was for making a screenshot of something that prevents fall damage :P 16:32 * PilzAdam has "Mapgen", "Mobs", "Master", "Test", and "Mine" 16:33 markveidemanis Hi 16:33 VanessaE Infinity_69: Not to insult, but you outwardly display the maturity, language skills, and general demeanor of a child of 14. You have some distance to go before you could rightfully consider yourself an adult. 16:33 * ShadowNinja thought up a new type of chat spamming 16:34 VanessaE worlds on my install are a couple of testing worlds, a few maps downloaded during the last mesecons competition, and my server world. Nothing really special there. 16:34 Infinity_69 -.- 16:36 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 16:36 markveidemanis Hi Minetest-tan 16:36 markveidemanis No? 16:37 Infinity_69 VanessaE, what is used more: Map or World... 16:37 Infinity_69 i mean in MT 16:37 markveidemanis Map 16:37 Infinity_69 didnt ask you o.o 16:37 PilzAdam use World 16:37 markveidemanis then World 16:37 Infinity_69 ok 16:37 VanessaE they're used roughly interchangeably, but if you want to be specific, "world" should refer to the files on disk, and "map" really should refer to a PNG overview image of it 16:37 Infinity_69 ok 16:38 Infinity_69 that makes sense 16:38 ShadowNinja VanessaE: how about menusplash, menufooter, and logo(for the credits tab) 16:38 markveidemanis i just do random 16:38 Infinity_69 whats the Menusplash? 16:38 markveidemanis who here knows TKinter 16:38 Infinity_69 like in MineCraft? 16:38 Infinity_69 ....! 16:38 Infinity_69 :D 16:38 Infinity_69 party(); 16:38 Infinity_69 .party(); 16:38 VanessaE ShadowNinja: sounds good to me. 16:38 Infinity_69 xD 16:38 Infinity_69 12345 is a bad password! 16:39 VanessaE that's putting it mildly. 16:39 VanessaE a password should be a random string of letters, numbers, and if possible symbols like @^&$. Perhaps arranged in an easy-to-remember order 16:39 Infinity_69 VanessaE, PilzAdam, will i be credited somewhere when done translating? 16:39 VanessaE and shoul dnever, EVER be based on a dictionary word. 16:40 PilzAdam Infinity_69, yes, in the git history and probably in the changelog 16:40 Infinity_69 yay :) 16:40 VanessaE I would assume so, in the form of your commit being "Authored by Infinity_69" or whatever 16:40 Infinity_69 :D 16:42 iqualfragile pwgen -nys 32 16:42 iqualfragile (at least thats how i create my passwords 16:42 iqualfragile here, take some: 16:42 iqualfragile $1liDn@t?1=Uqc$!L<$2n:eRyQ5I~KM= 7\Ag"l?^!WTNB/eaNK+_D{7vT;7(4>)/ 4X~cAI#IT|a"hiAo6JL=@aYu~r{DU`qT 16:42 markveidemanis SPAM 16:42 iqualfragile PASSWORDS 16:42 VanessaE that is not spam. 16:43 markveidemanis that is ^ 16:43 VanessaE hell that isn't even flooding 16:43 VanessaE that's just gibberish :) 16:43 markveidemanis can i have a go? 16:43 Infinity_69 i have a GREAT PW 16:43 markveidemanis :D 16:43 Infinity_69 ca#c##b##### 16:43 VanessaE Infinity_69: "password1"? 16:43 VanessaE :) 16:43 Infinity_69 every # is a number 16:43 Infinity_69 not gonna tell what number 16:43 iqualfragile Infinity_69: NEVER EVER publish any hints 16:43 VanessaE all of my passwords are generated by mashing the keyboard :D 16:43 Infinity_69 :) 16:43 Infinity_69 lawl 16:44 VanessaE Infinity_69: change your password. you've just compromised yourself. 16:44 Infinity_69 mine was sent to me from SacredSeasons 16:44 markveidemanis 6-9-6-9-6-9 ? 16:44 iqualfragile just do it now 16:44 Infinity_69 nope 16:44 Infinity_69 mark, nope... 16:44 Infinity_69 [19:34] mine was sent to me from SacredSeasons 2* 16:44 iqualfragile otherwise i will calulate how many minutes it would take to break that one 16:44 Infinity_69 omg... 16:44 VanessaE Infinity_69: this channel is publicly logged. your account is now compromised. 16:45 Infinity_69 i have it on so many places... 16:45 * VanessaE signs into Infinity_69's SacredSeasons account.. 16:45 iqualfragile thefuck? 16:45 iqualfragile never use a password twice 16:45 Infinity_69 gMail, iTunes, FreeNode etc... 16:45 Infinity_69 o.o 16:45 VanessaE wtf? Vampires? My Little Ponies? 16:45 Infinity_69 MLP? 16:45 sfan5 ponies? 16:45 Infinity_69 iDaFaQ 16:45 Infinity_69 hi sfan5 16:45 Infinity_69 im translating MineTest into Estonian 16:46 VanessaE Infinity_69: I am not kidding. go change your password. NOW. 16:46 Infinity_69 ok :D 16:46 VanessaE and change it to something different on every other site. 16:46 Infinity_69 how do i change it here? 16:46 iqualfragile 100000000 posibilites is not that much 16:46 Infinity_69 o.o 16:46 iqualfragile on freenode? 16:47 iqualfragile https://www.freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass 16:47 VanessaE now that we know the format of your password, 100M possibilities could be blown through in a matter of a few minutes of concentrated effort 16:47 Infinity_69 charlie sierra mike 8 QUEBEC 5 9 2 ECHO 7 KILO 4 VICTOR NOVEMBER 8 16:47 Infinity_69 :D 16:47 Infinity_69 my new pw... 16:47 sfan5 sure,sure 16:48 Infinity_69 csm8Q592E7K4VN8 16:48 Infinity_69 xD 16:48 Infinity_69 o.o 16:48 VanessaE we are NOT kidding about this, Infinity_69 16:48 iqualfragile are you kidding me? 16:48 Infinity_69 i know... 16:48 Infinity_69 im at StrongPasswordGenerator.com 16:48 Infinity_69 :D 16:49 Exio if he doesn't want his account, and does not want to read what you said, don't bother 16:49 VanessaE and NEVER USE A WEBSITE to generate a password!!!! 16:49 VanessaE how do you know that website isn't tracking you? 16:49 Infinity_69 idk :/ 16:49 iqualfragile dont use anything connected to the outer world to use a password 16:49 Infinity_69 omg, google knows my gMail pw! 16:49 iqualfragile the website could just save your password 16:49 Infinity_69 HOW?! 16:49 VanessaE Infinity_69: as I said before, you are still a child. 16:49 iqualfragile Infinity_69: no, it does not 16:50 VanessaE and it happens that google runs gmail, so of course the same password works there. 16:50 VanessaE (I thought everyone knew that?) 16:50 iqualfragile he knows that 16:50 Infinity_69 ugh, no i dont o.o 16:50 Infinity_69 xD 16:50 VanessaE are you sure? :) 16:51 sfan5 !c 10^8 16:51 MinetestBot 100 000 000 16:51 Infinity_69 omg, Youtube is Google? 16:51 sfan5 yes 16:51 VanessaE Infinity_69: yep. 16:51 Infinity_69 !c 16:51 MinetestBot Infinity_69: Nothing to calculate. 16:51 Infinity_69 oh 16:51 Infinity_69 !c is calculate 16:51 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 16:51 Infinity_69 lawl 16:51 VanessaE Infinity_69: there's a reason some people use the phrase 'googleplex'. 16:51 Infinity_69 !gc passwordhacker 16:51 MinetestBot passwordhacker: 4,460 16:51 VanessaE they've got their fingers in everything these days. 16:51 sfan5 !c Infinity_69's password strength 16:51 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 16:51 Infinity_69 omg... 16:51 Infinity_69 onlyt 16:51 Infinity_69 lawl 16:52 Infinity_69 Google thinks my password is strong 16:52 Infinity_69 it was green 16:52 VanessaE your password is weak if you already revealed any part of it to us. google doesn't know you did that. 16:52 Infinity_69 not that... 16:52 Infinity_69 i changed it... 16:52 VanessaE this channel is logged and is searchable on the web. 16:53 Infinity_69 i know 16:53 VanessaE and who knows how many "people" here are actually spy bots. 16:53 Infinity_69 somebody kickban loggingbot_ 16:53 sfan5 nope 16:53 sfan5 thexyz wouldn't like that 16:53 Exio in any case 16:53 Infinity_69 but i will .-. 16:53 Exio most of people here has local logs 16:53 sfan5 Infinity_69: what if i tell you .... oh wait Exio said it alreaday 16:54 sfan5 *already 16:54 thexyz privacy! 16:54 thexyz [off] 123 16:54 Infinity_69 X.X 16:54 thexyz that won't help you though 16:54 markveidemanis http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15253340/tkinter-image-viewer-with-buttons-and-entrybar 16:54 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://ubuntuone.com/7j9BuZ4X9KbtS3N4FOVJck 16:54 thexyz just prepend all your messages with [off] 16:55 Infinity_69 $privacy = file_get_contents('googleDB.mysql'); 16:55 Infinity_69 echo $privacy 16:55 Infinity_69 thats how all the pro's do it! 16:55 Infinity_69 xP 16:56 Exio yes, a pro 16:56 Infinity_69 yay :D 16:56 thexyz VanessaE: that background is really annoying 16:56 Exio what posts his password in a public logged channel. 16:56 Infinity_69 is it now... 16:56 Infinity_69 RLLY?! 16:56 Infinity_69 thexyz did it Exio, not me, i swear! 16:56 sfan5 what? 16:57 Infinity_69 [19:46] what posts his password in a public logged channel. 16:57 Infinity_69 [19:46] thexyz did it Exio, not me, i swear 16:57 Exio i don't think you need to flood-highlight me, but ok 16:57 Exio (flood highlight with useless stuff, i mean) 16:58 VanessaE thexyz: what background? 16:58 nyuszika7h 17:49:07* @VanessaE │ and NEVER USE A WEBSITE to generate a password!!!! 16:58 nyuszika7h strongpasswordgenerator.com uses JavaScript 16:58 nyuszika7h you can look at the code if you don't believe it :P 16:58 VanessaE nyuszika7h: so? it's still on the web. 16:58 nyuszika7h JS is executed client-side 16:59 VanessaE I know that. 16:59 thexyz VanessaE: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/mockup-1.png 16:59 markveidemanis how do i set a python variable to a random interger? 16:59 VanessaE thexyz: note the filename. "mockup" 16:59 VanessaE that is not at all intended to be anything useful 16:59 Exio markveidemanis: http://docs.python.org/2/library/random.html ? 16:59 thexyz VanessaE: it still makes me want to close the tab right after opening it 16:59 VanessaE it's supposed to just show the overall layout I was talking about 16:59 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: x = random.randint(first, last) 16:59 markveidemanis thanks 16:59 thexyz VanessaE: so i think this mockup is pretty much useless 17:00 thexyz by the way 17:00 VanessaE thexyz: um.. it isn't supposed to be useful. 17:00 nyuszika7h use .randrange() if you want the Pythonic way, that doesn't include the last number in the range (e.g. (0, 9) would be between 0 and 8, inclusive) 17:00 thexyz why do we care about Infinity_69's passwords all of sudden? 17:00 jojoa1997 guys i need help with some modding probs 17:00 jojoa1997 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=74186#p74186 17:00 sfan5 because he gave a hint what it is 17:00 VanessaE thexyz: because it comes as part of being a decent human being? caring about others? keeping them from making stupid mistakes? 17:00 jojoa1997 i have been trying for 2 days and nothing works 17:01 thexyz VanessaE: well, he doesn't seem to even try to understand 17:01 Infinity_69 Perlin noise maps (huge speed boost) = Less lag online? 17:01 VanessaE thexyz: and besides, apparently the mockup did its job, because that's overall format ShadowNinja went with. 17:01 thexyz of course i can't stop you from wasting your time 17:02 nyuszika7h Infinity_69: if the website doesn't limit my speed of guessing passwords, I can guess your password in 80 seconds 17:02 thexyz VanessaE: great then 17:02 nyuszika7h and that's without threading 17:02 nyuszika7h there are 8 numbers missing, and the 0..9 range is 10 numbers, 8 * 10 = 80 seconds with 1 password / sec 17:02 Infinity_69 then guess it :) 17:02 markveidemanis how do i get the second word of a typed line in pythoin 17:02 markveidemanis python 17:03 Exio hahaha 17:03 Calinou what site actually limits password guessing speed? 8D 17:03 markveidemanis setpass [password] 17:03 Infinity_69 i will stop you if you get it right 17:03 Calinou very basic thing, but very few sites do it 17:04 Infinity_69 nyuszika7h start guessing! 17:04 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: sys.stdin.readline().strip().split(' ')[1] 17:04 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://ubuntuone.com/7j9BuZ4X9KbtS3N4FOVJck 17:04 thexyz markveidemanis: "a word".split()[1] 17:04 nyuszika7h yes, the ' ' is not needed for the split 17:04 markveidemanis can i use * 17:04 VanessaE ShadowNinja: HD version of my menulogo: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/menulogo-hd.png 17:04 nyuszika7h you can also use raw_input() (or in Python 3, input()) 17:04 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: how do you mean? 17:05 jojoa1997 no one can help? 17:05 VanessaE ShadowNinja: already saw that 17:05 jojoa1997 if you can pm me i got to go 17:05 markveidemanis wildcard 17:05 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: in what context? 17:05 ShadowNinja is that just the menulogo? 17:05 Infinity_69 nyuszika7h 17:05 nyuszika7h Infinity_69 17:06 VanessaE ShadowNinja: at present, yes, but when your code is released I guess I'll use that ^^^^^ image as the menu splash and make the logo, bg, etc transparent/empty 17:06 markveidemanis i dont know, but i thought it was for 'guessing' 17:06 Infinity_69 start guessing... 17:06 Infinity_69 NOW!" 17:06 markveidemanis never mind...your right, im wrong :D 17:06 VanessaE jojoa1997: fix peaceful_npc so I can re-install it :) 17:06 ShadowNinja ah, thats how you got rid of the menulogo background 17:06 nyuszika7h Infinity_69: I'd post a list of possible combinations but I don't want to make it easier to get your accounts compromised. 17:07 VanessaE ShadowNinja: yep. I overrode it entirely, just by supplying a properly named-and-sized image in my texture pack. 17:07 nyuszika7h anyone can easily do it in Python 17:07 Infinity_69 i already changed the passwords, so now its just a combo... 17:07 VanessaE ShadowNinja: but because menulogo.png gets scaled up by 4x no matter its size, the HDX version is currently only 320x256 or some such. 17:09 Infinity_69 ok, my ex-password is(was*) **2*76*71777 17:09 Infinity_69 every * is a letter... 17:09 Infinity_69 find them :D 17:09 nyuszika7h Infinity_69: rofl 17:09 nyuszika7h are you really that stupid 17:09 nyuszika7h it's obvious now 17:09 nyuszika7h anyone who can read can guess it 17:10 VanessaE ca2c76b71777 17:10 VanessaE duh. 17:10 Infinity_69 [19:59] are you really that stupid: im pretty smart for my age 17:10 Infinity_69 vanessaE, yeah :D 17:10 Infinity_69 great pw huh :D 17:10 VanessaE sucky. 17:10 VanessaE weak as fuck 17:10 Infinity_69 *o* 17:10 VanessaE no capital letters, repeating digits, no symbols 17:10 Infinity_69 i told you... 17:10 Infinity_69 i changed it you dumbass 17:11 Exio even my old password was better 17:11 VanessaE you changed it on what, one site you use it on? 17:11 VanessaE you just said you used it in multiple locations. 17:11 Infinity_69 FN, Google(YT, GM, GdC) etc... 17:11 markveidemanis http://paste.pound-python.org/show/31016/ whats wrong 17:12 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: line = raw_input(">").rstrip('\r\n') 17:12 sfan5 my password matches [0-9a-zA-Z\-\\\?]* 17:12 sfan5 that gives almost no hint at all 17:13 Exio my password matches with ".*" 17:13 Exio (without the quotes :) 17:13 nyuszika7h Exio: lol 17:13 markveidemanis meh,i give up on that shitty random program 17:13 sfan5 mine too i bet we have the same passwords 17:13 VanessaE a strong password is like the ones I use - let's just say they're into the dozens of characters range, allowing for the entirety of the standard 7-bit ASCII character set, as long as the site considers it valid. 17:14 Exio VanessaE: this is mine! Sv4!sBZPb:a6gtY@;lO?;b{YP;,Fx6=k'|%#]0m:XXNt(f!F}j59=;7.~R|zzGd-;F5"Qe#u+.{|^ZW; 17:15 sfan5 !c 1024+768 17:15 MinetestBot 1792 17:15 VanessaE Exio: that's some password :) 17:15 VanessaE looks more like a perl script :D 17:16 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: the problem is you are exiting the program on 'randompass' 17:16 markveidemanis sfan, do b64e 17:16 nyuszika7h variables aren't stored between executions 17:17 sfan5 markveidemanis: why? 17:17 sfan5 !b64e 17:17 MinetestBot sfan5: Nothing to encode. 17:18 sfan5 i'll actually be nice to you 17:18 sfan5 !unignore markveidemanis 17:18 MinetestBot sfan5: 'markveidemanis' removed from ignore list. 17:18 markveidemanis b64e hello i am a witch, burn me 17:18 Infinity_69 Sfan5, put "Print Stacks" in a sentence... 17:18 markveidemanis thank you! 17:18 Infinity_69 i dont know how to translate it... 17:18 Infinity_69 kinda... 17:18 Infinity_69 o.o 17:18 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 17:18 sfan5 no 17:18 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 seems to be down 17:18 Infinity_69 cmon 17:18 Infinity_69 VanessaE 17:18 markveidemanis OldCoder 17:18 sfan5 stop hightliting everyone 17:18 sfan5 -t 17:19 ShadowNinja Github updated: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/menu_clouds 17:19 sfan5 !b64e hello i am a witch, burn me 17:19 MinetestBot aGVsbG8gaSBhbSBhIHdpdGNoLCBidXJuIG1l 17:19 sfan5 ^ markveidemanis 17:19 markveidemanis it takes the same amount of space? 17:21 OldCoder markveidemanis, yes? 17:21 Infinity_69 !b64e hi? 17:21 MinetestBot aGk/ 17:22 Infinity_69 lawl 17:22 markveidemanis why is minetest.org down? 17:22 Infinity_69 !b64e hi 17:22 MinetestBot aGk= 17:22 Infinity_69 ok 17:22 Infinity_69 !b64e ? 17:22 MinetestBot Pw== 17:22 Infinity_69 xD 17:22 markveidemanis !b64d 17:22 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Nothing to decode. 17:22 markveidemanis d. not e 17:22 Infinity_69 oh 17:22 Infinity_69 e is encode? 17:22 Infinity_69 d is decode? 17:22 Infinity_69 ok :D 17:23 Infinity_69 !b64d PW== 17:23 MinetestBot = 17:23 Infinity_69 ? 17:23 nyuszika7h markveidemanis: http://ideone.com/iwM5Nk 17:23 Infinity_69 markveidemanis, use Eric - a Python IDE 17:23 ShadowNinja !b64d aGVsbG8gaSBhbSBhIHdpdGNoLCBidXJuIG1l 17:23 MinetestBot hello i am a witch, burn me 17:24 Infinity_69 lawl 17:25 * nyuszika7h points at topic 17:25 Infinity_69 !b64d aGVsbG8gaSBhbSBhIHdpdGNoLCBidXJuIG1l 17:25 MinetestBot hello i am a witch, burn me 17:27 markveidemanis http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15253340/tkinter-image-viewer-with-buttons-and-entrybar 17:27 ShadowNinja !b64d L21lIHRlc3Rz 17:27 MinetestBot /me tests 17:27 markveidemanis lol good idea 17:27 markveidemanis /me 17:27 ShadowNinja awe, I can't ru commands :-( 17:27 ShadowNinja *run 17:27 markveidemanis that would be cool..... 17:29 Infinity_69 IWdjIHBvcm4= 17:30 Infinity_69 !b64d IWdjIHBvcm4= 17:30 MinetestBot !gc porn 17:30 nyuszika7h ShadowNinja: that's not how IRC works 17:30 Infinity_69 lawl 17:30 Infinity_69 look at what MinetestBot is google'ing 17:30 nyuszika7h when you send a message, the IRC server actually gets "PRIVMSG #minetest :foo" 17:30 Infinity_69 xD 17:31 nyuszika7h !b64d AUFDVElPTiBsb29rcyBhcm91bmQB 17:31 * MinetestBot looks around 17:31 ShadowNinja nyuszika7h: you need a nich andt is easier to type and I know 17:31 Infinity_69 !b64d SGV5IFBpbHpBZGFtLCB3aGF0IGRvZXMgTFVBIHN0YW5kIGZvcj8= 17:31 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam, what does LUA stand for? 17:32 nyuszika7h and before you ask, no, you can't make it quit with that, or do anything other than /msg, /me or other CTCPs 17:32 khonkhortisan !b64d SSBpcyBhIE1pbmV0ZXN0Qm90 17:32 MinetestBot I is a MinetestBot 17:32 khonkhortisan hehe 17:32 Infinity_69 xD 17:32 nyuszika7h guys, I think it's enough 17:32 nyuszika7h this is not a playground 17:32 nyuszika7h as the topic says 17:32 Infinity_69 [20:21] TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 17:32 Infinity_69 xD 17:32 nyuszika7h where? 17:32 Infinity_69 what? 17:32 Infinity_69 look 17:32 Infinity_69 !b64d SGV5IFBpbHpBZGFtLCB3aGF0IGRvZXMgTFVBIHN0YW5kIGZvcj8 17:33 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 17:33 Infinity_69 see? 17:33 Infinity_69 !b64d SGV5IFBpbHpBZGFtLCB3aGF0IGRvZXMgTFVBIHN0YW5kIGZvcj 17:33 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 17:33 khonkhortisan you don't have to do it twice 17:33 nyuszika7h !b64d DQpQUklWTVNHICNtaW5ldGVzdCA6Zm9v 17:33 Infinity_69 its because i dont put a = 17:33 MinetestBot PRIVMSG #minetest :foo 17:33 nyuszika7h k 17:33 markveidemanis .clear 17:33 Infinity_69 its /clear 17:33 Infinity_69 dumbass 17:33 nyuszika7h things called typos exist :P 17:33 nyuszika7h bbl 17:34 khonkhortisan //replace dumbass air 17:34 khonkhortisan poof! 17:34 ShadowNinja !b64d QUNUSU9OIHRlc3Rz 17:34 MinetestBot ACTION tests 17:35 Infinity_69 xD 17:36 Exio !b64d AUFDVElPTiB0ZXN0AQo= 17:36 Exio oops 17:36 Exio !b64d AUFDVElPTiB0ZXN0AQo= 17:36 * MinetestBot test 17:36 Exio ShadowNinja: ^ 17:36 Infinity_69 hey does MT 0.4.5 have "Friends" plugin? 17:36 Exio friends plugin? what? 17:36 ShadowNinja !b64d AUFDVElPTiB0ZXN0cwE= 17:36 * MinetestBot tests 17:36 Infinity_69 that allows to see if a "friend" is online via IP 17:36 Infinity_69 :D 17:36 Infinity_69 that would be nice 17:37 Infinity_69 add friends/enemies to a list that would store the IP's and look that do some servers have people with that IP 17:37 Infinity_69 !g GENIUS meme 17:37 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/genius 17:38 ShadowNinja !b64d AUFDVElPTiBzaG91bGRuJ3QgYWxsb3cgdGhpcwE= 17:38 * MinetestBot shouldn't allow this 17:38 Infinity_69 !g genius.png 17:38 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Scartol_language_genius.png 17:38 Infinity_69 !g nope.avi 17:38 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14 17:40 sfan5 !b16d 6D656F7721 17:40 MinetestBot meow! 17:40 Infinity_69 !b64d SGV5IFBpbHpBZGFtLCB3aGF0IGRvZXMgTFVBIHN0YW5kIGZvcj8= 17:40 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam, what does LUA stand for? 17:40 sfan5 !ignore Infinity_69 17:40 MinetestBot sfan5: 'Infinity_69' added to ignore list. 17:41 Infinity_69 !ignore sfan5 17:41 Infinity_69 omg, why?! 17:41 sfan5 !ignore sfan5 17:41 Infinity_69 WHY 17:41 MinetestBot sfan5: 'sfan5' added to ignore list. 17:41 Infinity_69 xD 17:41 sfan5 what now? 17:41 Infinity_69 lawl 17:41 Infinity_69 ugh... 17:41 Infinity_69 lmt 17:41 Infinity_69 .-. 17:41 thexyz > This isn't a playground. 17:41 sfan5 !unignore sfan5 17:41 MinetestBot sfan5: 'sfan5' removed from ignore list. 17:41 Infinity_69 .o)3 17:42 Infinity_69 NO 17:42 Infinity_69 i'll behave 17:42 Infinity_69 o.o 17:42 khonkhortisan Can MinetestBot be told to kick people? 17:42 sfan5 no 17:42 thexyz see 17:42 PilzAdam sfan5, your bot is annyoing 17:42 sfan5 PilzAdam: why? 17:43 PilzAdam Hey PilzAdam, what does LUA stand for? 17:43 sfan5 !b64d SGV5IFBpbHpBZGFtLCB3aGF0IGRvZXMgTFVBIHN0YW5kIGZvcj8= 17:43 sfan5 it decoded that base64 string because it was told so 17:43 sfan5 *to do so 17:44 ShadowNinja That is fun but I don't think we realy need it 17:44 sfan5 and after that this happend: 17:44 sfan5 <MinetestBot> sfan5: 'sfan5' added to ignore list. 17:44 sfan5 no wait 17:44 sfan5 *<MinetestBot> sfan5: 'Infinity_69' added to ignore list. 17:45 khonkhortisan it takes skill to kick yourself 17:48 thexyz that's how knockback works! awesome, right? 17:48 thexyz 5 minutes of silence 17:48 nyuszika7h lol? 17:48 thexyz *knockout 17:49 nyuszika7h thexyz: you should set +C 17:49 nyuszika7h it is possible to make the bot send CTCP requests with !b64d 17:50 nyuszika7h like I made it do a /me, that's a CTCP ACTION, others can be done too unless you set +C 17:50 nyuszika7h well, anyone could send a channel-wide CTCP, not just the bot 17:51 khonkhortisan like that 17:51 sfan5 -celeron55- VERSION MESE TÖÖT 17:51 thexyz sure 17:51 sfan5 -Crisco- NO, sfan5, you may not have my version 17:51 Exio [14:50:47] -- CTCP requested by sfan5: VERSION (blocked) 17:52 khonkhortisan 09:50|* Received a CTCP VERSION from sfan5 (to #minetest) 17:52 thexyz sfan5: plz no flood 17:52 sfan5 sorry 17:52 thexyz you're not sorry enough 17:52 thexyz try harder 17:52 sfan5 SORRY 17:53 sfan5 i am very perl('very' x 123) sorry 17:53 * VanessaE hands sfan5 some bold lttering 17:53 VanessaE lettering* 17:53 sfan5 sorry? 17:53 sfan5 i think i need to be op 17:56 nyuszika7h sfan5: you have +ov 17:57 sfan5 i have? 17:58 nyuszika7h yes 18:08 ShadowNinja pull 518 can be closed 18:13 ShadowNinja all but 5 or so people have timed out on my server, and two of them were greifers, what is going on? 18:14 VanessaE dunno 18:15 ShadowNinja can you connect? 18:15 VanessaE ip? 18:16 ShadowNinja 67.241.154.164 18:16 ShadowNinja !up 67.241.154.164 18:16 MinetestBot 67.241.154.164:30000 is up (0.295ms) 18:17 VanessaE connecting... 18:17 VanessaE items 18:17 VanessaE nodes.. 18:17 VanessaE media 18:17 VanessaE and I'm in 18:29 Deivan Hum... How a I get a single item from a group? I have a group, how I get one random item of this group? 18:30 Deivan Ie, the group:wood. 18:32 ShadowNinja something like things_in_group_wood[math.rand(1, #things_in_group_wood)] 18:33 Deivan Seeking... 18:33 Deivan I don't found this things in the api... 18:34 ShadowNinja math.rand is lua, not minetest api 18:34 Deivan Not the rand... 18:34 Deivan The "things_in_group_wood" 18:34 ShadowNinja you have to iterate through all nodes and add them 18:34 Deivan I found only the get_item_group 18:35 Deivan Maybe no... 18:35 ShadowNinja if minetest.registered_nodes.groups.wood 18:36 Deivan I need test it... Thanks. 18:36 Deivan AFK 19:05 * ShadowNinja sees annother person time-out 19:09 VanessaE ShadowNinja: now that said, 19:10 VanessaE a lot of people just simply...time out. 19:10 VanessaE Traxie21's client keeps segfaulting, for example 19:10 VanessaE or "Some Exception" or bad alloc 19:10 ShadowNinja but 99%? 19:11 VanessaE I do see it a lot on my server sadly 19:11 * ShadowNinja likes travelnet 19:24 ShadowNinja yay, two people were able to connect! 19:25 ShadowNinja and it seems travelnet does not remove stations when they are destroyed 19:25 VanessaE yeah so I noticed 19:26 VanessaE I used one in my server earlier and teleported to a location that no longer had one. 19:26 ShadowNinja do you have the patch handy or should I write my own? 19:26 VanessaE what patch? 19:26 ShadowNinja to fix it 19:27 VanessaE nope 19:27 VanessaE I'll have to bug sokomine about it 19:29 VanessaE hell my copy still has the incorrect nodebox defs :) 19:42 VanessaE bbl 20:31 Traxie21 Question 20:31 Traxie21 Is there a way to check a value in a table that may not exist, and have it return nil if it does not exist, or the value if it does? 20:37 PilzAdam bye 20:45 STHGOM hi 20:46 STHGOM im having trouble with the mesecons luacontroller 20:46 STHGOM i cant type in the code block and its black instead of green 20:49 STHGOM hello? 20:49 Traxie21 O_o 20:49 Traxie21 What version are you running? 20:50 STHGOM 0.4.4 20:50 STHGOM do i need 0.4.5? 20:50 STHGOM or do you mean of mesecons? 20:51 sokomine i have no idea, sorry 20:52 Traxie21 Try 0.4.5 20:52 STHGOM ok 20:52 Traxie21 I have no idea why it would be black... 20:52 thexyz screenshot? 20:52 STHGOM just the code block is black, i will try 20:53 STHGOM i will take one if 0.4.5 don't work, thanks 20:53 STHGOM just passing by.. 21:01 RealBadAngel problem above was irrlicht 1.8 and old sources 21:01 RealBadAngel btw, updated Technic with 2 bugfixes 21:03 ShadowNinja RBA: fixed the bug in UI? 21:04 RealBadAngel talkin of the devil 21:04 RealBadAngel i cannot reproduce that bug 21:05 RealBadAngel well, what version of UI are you using? standalone or bundled with technic? 21:05 ShadowNinja standalone 21:07 RealBadAngel i can see the reason 21:07 RealBadAngel by mistake i uploaded there version that will work in the future lol 21:07 RealBadAngel take the one that comes with Technic 21:08 RealBadAngel or hold on, i will sync those 2 versions 21:11 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, you can update it now 21:12 RealBadAngel well, all known bugs killed, im back to makin stargate :) 21:14 sokomine stargate? 21:14 sokomine beware! there might be some bugs on the other side :-) 21:26 STHGOM thanks 0.4.5 did the trick :D 21:26 STHGOM now i make robot :D 21:30 RealBadAngel sokomine, definitely. strange alien bugs with glowing eyes 21:38 OWNSyouAll if i set chunks_per_volume in generate ore to 1/24/24/24 dose that mean it will create one chunk in every 24^3 space? 21:47 Deivan Ok, my renewed version of the crafting guide is operational. Someone know a good server for host it? 21:53 khonkhortisan Is that the same crafting guide that's in unified_inventory? 21:53 Deivan No, but have the same origin... 21:54 Deivan Unified make all crazy in my menus... 21:54 Deivan I have workbench and the unified crash all fuctions. 21:54 Deivan Is a big mess. 21:57 Deivan This one have a small pc, you craft it and put in one place. 21:58 Deivan If need you go to this pc and search what you need. 21:59 Deivan Each pc have a independent bookmark. 22:01 khonkhortisan That's the one I had first, but I like it in the menu better 22:01 Deivan Don't work with the workbench... 22:02 Deivan And don't work with recipes with more than 3x3 22:10 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Change libjson to libjsoncpp in .gitignore aa77ee66c5 2013-03-06T14:09:28-08:00 http://git.io/oG74bw 22:13 telek jin_xi: Belatedly, thanks for the answer :) 22:16 telek What's json being added for? 22:17 thexyz http://servers.minetest.net/ 22:19 telek Publishing is opt-in I hope? 22:19 thexyz yes 22:20 thexyz server_announce in minetest.conf 22:20 telek Spiffy. 22:20 telek JSON going to start being used for other stuff as well? 22:20 thexyz dunno, what stuff? 22:22 telek Dunno. Thinking a mod api and json schema for database objects perhaps? 22:22 jin_xi lol 22:22 thexyz don't think so 22:23 telek Well suppose I'll come back in a week and check then :D 22:27 jojoa1997 what does the public option mean http://ompldr.org/vaG9pMw 22:28 NekoGloop|Laptop MinetestBot, who the fuck is commiting it?! 22:28 jojoa1997 what does that mean? 22:28 thexyz jojoa1997: accessible via net i guess 22:29 jojoa1997 so that means that i dont need to do the prot thing to have a server 22:30 thexyz oh, i was wrong 22:30 jojoa1997 then what is the right answer 22:30 thexyz public means it will be announced to master server 22:30 jojoa1997 oh 22:30 jojoa1997 :/ now i cant host from my server :( 22:32 thexyz why? 22:32 thexyz oh 22:33 thexyz doesn't matter 22:34 ShadowNinja sokomine: can you fix your travelnet mod so that digging one removes it from the network? 22:43 Uberi what do you think mesecons should sound like when you place/dig it? 22:43 Uberi I am considering adding some real sounds for them 22:44 kaeza I like the dig sound they have now 22:44 kaeza (the default one) 22:44 Uberi hmm, OK 22:44 Uberi hey VanessaE, do you like the current mesecons dig/place sounds? 22:44 kaeza but adding sounds for things like buttons and switches would be good 22:45 VanessaE I haven't noticed them actually 22:45 Uberi yeah I'm going through them now looking for the ones that don't have sounds 22:48 NekoGloop|Laptop They should sound softer. 22:48 * VanessaE looks around at her freshly-reinstalled system and wonders if she missed anything 22:48 NekoGloop|Laptop Think wool. 22:49 NekoGloop|Laptop Uberi ^ 22:49 Uberi I agree, NekoGloop|Laptop 22:52 NekoGloop|Laptop Also, buttons and levers could have nice little click sounds. Like a metal latch or something. 22:53 Uberi getting the sounds is a bit hard though, preferably use all CC0 and make licensing less of a pain 22:53 VanessaE use freesounds.org 22:53 NekoGloop|Laptop Or get a microphone. 22:54 VanessaE *grumble* 22:54 VanessaE that wasn't it 22:54 VanessaE http://www.freesound.org/ 22:54 VanessaE that was it. 22:54 VanessaE most stuff there is CC0/CC-By-SA 22:54 Uberi yeah I use freesounds.org for everything, sometimes with a bit of pdsounds.org 22:55 NekoGloop|Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X-IR1STMTY This was so obviously made by a linux user who can use Vocaloid in a dualboot or something. 22:55 Uberi (pdsounds is all public domain, just that they don't have much content) 22:58 Uberi wait a minute, mesecons don't have any sounds at all right now 22:59 kaeza brb, off to Linux 22:59 NekoGloop|Laptop Default nodedef defines sounds don't it? 23:00 Uberi nah you have to use sounds= default.default_sounds... 23:00 NekoGloop|Laptop Why don't you check because I'm a lazy ass? 23:00 Uberi I just did :) 23:01 NekoGloop|Laptop kaeza joinquitspam NAO. 23:01 kaeza hm? 23:01 kaeza sowwy 23:02 NekoGloop|Laptop Here have a song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsBgCYL9Dn8 23:02 kaeza stoopid xchat plugin is not authenticating me before join 23:02 * NekoGloop|Laptop whistles innocently... Hexchat will do it without plugins~ 23:03 * kaeza puts a CTCP VERSION on NekoGloop|Laptop's client 23:03 kaeza :3 23:03 NekoGloop|Laptop Little delay there eh? 23:04 kaeza indeed 23:09 kaeza question: does the current ttf font support japanese characters? 23:11 NekoGloop|Laptop Prolly not, why? 23:13 thexyz no 23:13 kaeza just asking 23:13 thexyz get uming.ttc 23:13 thexyz it's free/libre 23:13 kaeza ok 23:15 STHGOM does nyone know if the luacontroller can say stuff like signs? 23:15 STHGOM *know 23:16 Uberi STHGOM: what do you mean? 23:16 NekoGloop|Laptop No. 23:16 Uberi you want it to say "signs"? 23:16 Uberi use print("signs") 23:16 STHGOM no 23:16 NekoGloop|Laptop Uberi, no, s/he wants it to function as a sign 23:16 * jin_xi sings 23:16 STHGOM that not what i mean 23:16 STHGOM he 23:16 Uberi oh, in that case use a sign :P 23:17 kaeza thexyz, thanks for the suggestion; Mito on the forums is going to make jap translations for his game in the future. I pointed him to the fotn 23:17 kaeza font* 23:18 NekoGloop|Laptop STHGOM, You want it to display text in a manner similar to signs, do you not? 23:19 Kacey hi all 23:19 STHGOM yes 23:19 Uberi hey Kacey 23:19 kaeza copy PA's signs into the luacontroller, add the textures somewhere, ???, profit, crash 23:20 Exio lol "profit, crash" 23:20 STHGOM i was hoping that i could do something like this: if pin.a=true signprint ("example") 23:20 STHGOM ok... 23:20 STHGOM pa? 23:21 STHGOM PA? 23:21 NekoGloop|Laptop kaeza, he means like DEFAULT signs... 23:21 STHGOM yes 23:21 NekoGloop|Laptop not those horrible excuses for signs made by the one known as PilzAderp. 23:22 Uberi STHGOM: well yes I suppose it would be possible to add a function for that 23:22 Crisco who the heck is sfan5? 23:22 Uberi if jeija agrees I'll do it 23:22 STHGOM YAY 23:22 STHGOM you are awsome! 23:22 NekoGloop|Laptop Crisco, he is everyone. He is noone. He is you. He is me. 23:22 kaeza lol 23:22 Crisco NekoGloop|Laptop: I doubt that 23:23 Crisco all I know is he ctcp'ed me and highlighted me 23:23 kaeza well, he is OP here 23:23 NekoGloop|Laptop He is very overpowered here. 23:25 Exio he is offtopic here too >:D 23:25 kaeza Uberi, I bet a better approach is to expose the node position of the currently running luacontroller 23:26 Exio what are luacontrollers? 23:26 kaeza a bit more generic, and also allows you to edit it's infotext meta 23:26 Uberi programmable nodes in Mesecons, Exio 23:26 Uberi kaeza: expose node position to what? 23:26 Exio in lua? 23:26 Uberi Exio: in-game 23:26 Exio damn! i didn't know that was possible in mt 23:27 kaeza to the script running in the luacontroller 23:27 NekoGloop|Laptop Uberi, allow the luacontroller to modify the metadata of the luacontroller. 23:27 Uberi kaeza: no, luacontrollers are supposed to be usable by untrusted and potentially malicious players 23:27 Uberi giving it access to the metadata API can have disasterous consequences 23:28 STHGOM ? 23:28 kaeza like? 23:28 Uberi if, for example, you could modify the heat of the controller, you could crash the server 23:28 kaeza oh I see 23:28 Uberi meta:set_int("heat",-math.huge) while true do end 23:29 Uberi server is now hanged 23:30 NekoGloop|Laptop Well have some blacklisted ones. 23:30 Kacey you can also give yourself stuff with them... 23:37 Uberi NekoGloop|Laptop: in that case, the only ones that would be allowed is the infotext, so might as well have a setinfo() func instead 23:37 Uberi you can also crash the server by modifying the code while its being executed 23:37 kaeza Uberi, I see your point, but unless you also block access to find_nodes_in_area(), creative users can find a workaround 23:37 kaeza by trial and error 23:37 Uberi of course, we blocked the entire MT api 23:37 Uberi it's simply not available 23:37 Uberi only things you can use are print, pin, port, interrupt, digilines, mem, tostring, tonumber, string, and event 23:37 Uberi also you can't use while, for, repeat, until, or function 23:37 kaeza so... what's the real difference between that and a recular microcontroller? 23:37 Uberi which means that the execution environment is not turing complete 23:37 kaeza regular* 23:37 Uberi therefore we avoid the halting problem 23:37 Uberi kaeza: regular ones are programmed in ucScript 23:37 Uberi ucScript is a custom language that is rather limited and can't express a lot of things 23:37 * YoungDerp has a good mod idea 23:37 kaeza hi Kacey 23:37 YoungDerp hi 23:37 AspireMint Hello, is there somebody who own webpage on bugs3.com? (i have dummie question x) ) 23:37 Kacey i got disconnected 23:38 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluPGpkLUZ0 23:38 Kacey i want to make this mod 23:38 kaeza rick astley mod? :P 23:39 Kacey no 23:40 NekoGloop|Laptop When Kacey logs into his computer, it automatically puts a rickroll on his clipboard. 23:40 ShadowNinja sokomine: can you fix your travelnet mod so that digging one removes it from the network? 23:40 Kacey applied energistics 23:41 NekoGloop|Laptop AE doesn't have that much in it though... 23:41 Kacey yet 23:41 kaeza Kacey, TL;DW 23:41 Kacey but we could make our own version of it 23:54 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgiioDeo2Kk 23:54 Kacey even cooler