Time Nick Message
00:00 khonkhortisan You're still on that? I just had a meal.
00:00 NekoGloop|Laptop I don't think that just because I've watched some anime that you have to watch it. I might mention it if you seem like the kind of person who'd like it.
00:00 khonkhortisan Is it like spongebob?
00:01 kaeza don't tell me you don't like spongebob?
00:01 NekoGloop|Laptop It's like puke.
00:01 khonkhortisan I grew out of it, I used to be able to recite everything they said, but they changed the character of it over time.
00:02 khonkhortisan two sentences.
00:04 khonkhortisan Okay, that was odd. I //load ed in the air, then placed desert sand on the air-ground. It fell down to the real ground, stayed an entity, and destroyed the air-ground it was on.
00:04 khonkhortisan Then I placed dirt on the ground next to it, and the dirt moved down one node, fixing the entity.
00:05 kaeza It seems the new rightclick stuff has some bugs
00:14 khonkhortisan I was also using worldedit, so that might have made unusual conditions.
00:26 Traxie21 Guys, im stumped....
00:26 Traxie21 something so simple is becoming so hard
00:26 kaeza Traxie21, hi
00:27 kaeza what's the problem?
00:27 Traxie21 se = {} profile = "" function se.show_profile(name) profile = "size[15,10]".. "label[1,0;"..name.."]".. "button_image[0,1;4,4;/gui/avatars/avi1.png;Avatar; ;]" minetest.show_formspec(name, "profile", profile) end minetest.register_chatcommand('profile',{ description = 'Show your profile', privs = {}, func = se.show_profile(name) })
00:27 Traxie21 ...
00:27 Traxie21 I'll use pastebin
00:27 kaeza hmm
00:27 kaeza found the bug
00:27 Traxie21 Code ninja
00:28 Traxie21 I've been trying so many different things for the past hour
00:28 kaeza func = se.show_profile(name)
00:28 kaeza you are actually *calling* the function
00:28 khonkhortisan se.show_profile = function(name)
00:28 kaeza instead of setting a pointer to it
00:29 kaeza khonkhortisan, nope
00:29 khonkhortisan no?
00:29 kaeza Traxie21, func = se.show_profile
00:29 kaeza without "(name)"
00:29 Traxie21 tried that already
00:29 Traxie21 O_O
00:29 Traxie21 It worked this time...
00:30 khonkhortisan My mesecon machine is so big I had to //save it in two sections
00:31 kaeza Traxie21, also, anothenr thing:
00:31 kaeza the "texture" in button_image is wrong
00:31 Traxie21 I know
00:31 kaeza are you sure this works?
00:31 kaeza ah
00:31 Traxie21 I hadn't even gotten to testing that
00:31 kaeza ok :P
00:32 Traxie21 But there is a texture in /modname/textures/gui/avatars/avi1.png
00:32 kaeza that...should not work
00:32 Traxie21 What am I doing wrong?
00:32 PilzAdam bye
00:32 Traxie21 bai
00:32 kaeza you should put avi1.png directly in textures
00:33 Traxie21 must I?
00:33 Traxie21 is there any way to subfolder anything for images?
00:33 kaeza I bet 'print("bye")' is inside POilzAdam.shutdown()
00:33 kaeza PilzAdam*
00:33 Traxie21 I have so many images for this mod, or I will, and it will encourage the owner to add more
00:34 kaeza Traxie21, the best thing is to use a prefix
00:34 kaeza for example, gui_avatar_avi1
00:34 Traxie21 not very user-friendly
00:34 kaeza +.png
00:34 Traxie21 What I really need is for the curl fetching thing to be implemented
00:35 Traxie21 so, the only place textures can be loaded from is the textures folder?
00:35 kaeza Traxie21, but the texture must already be loaded in the game
00:35 Traxie21 Good point
00:35 kaeza and the game only loads from the textures folder
00:36 kaeza so for now, a prefix would be the best bet
00:36 Traxie21 daww
00:36 Traxie21 alrighty
00:39 kaeza also, thanks for the warning about the canyon mod
00:39 Traxie21 np
00:40 Traxie21 I think that happens for almost anything that slows terrain generation
00:44 kaeza The look itself is very impressive, but not really "playable".
00:44 kaeza 10 seconds to generate a chunk in singleplayer with vanilla game
00:46 Traxie21 Yeah
00:46 kaeza just curious, what is the exact job of the emerge thread?
00:46 Traxie21 We really need a better mapgen API
00:46 * Traxie21 has no idea
00:46 kaeza terrain generation?
00:46 Traxie21 Gosh
00:46 kaeza running lua?
00:47 Traxie21 I hate formspec, its so confusing, because the measurements can mean one thing or another
00:47 Traxie21 some mean inventory slots, others are percentages, and the only way to find out is to test
00:47 kaeza measurements are in "inventory slots"
00:47 kaeza hm?
00:47 kaeza percentages?
00:47 Traxie21 images are in percentages
00:48 Traxie21 you can throw an image at 20, 20, with an size of 0,0 and it will still show up
00:49 Traxie21 dosnt seem to conform to inventory slots like the rest
00:49 kaeza hmm
00:51 Traxie21 just realized, its image_button, not button_image XD
00:52 kaeza lol
00:55 kaeza testing the new flat mapgen: *junglegrass, junglegrass everywhere* :P
00:55 khonkhortisan junglegrass, cacti, and moretrees.
00:55 khonkhortisan And two-high non-stone at an unusual hight
00:56 Traxie21 O_o
00:56 kaeza this now looks like a drawing :P
00:57 * khonkhortisan feels silly using .wem files
00:57 Traxie21 Any of you guys heard of Zach Hemesy?
00:57 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_681125284.jpg
00:57 Traxie21 :O
00:57 Traxie21 Nice font
00:58 khonkhortisan Yep, that's what flatland looks like.
00:58 kaeza Traxie21, it's Vanessa's
00:58 Kacey hi all
00:58 kaeza hi Kacey
00:59 kaeza Kacey, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_681125284.jpg
00:59 Kacey how?
00:59 kaeza Kacey, edit minetest.conf
00:59 Kacey naw
00:59 kaeza add mg_flags = flat
01:00 Kacey i know how to make a flat world
01:01 Traxie21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzgYqiOjc4Q&list=PLKujbbfEGmdlA9HOQjqmIh6L7HrIlQhXb&shuffle=403
01:01 kaeza this is cool to make pixel art
01:03 kaeza some screens from octuteam: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1792266256.jpg
01:03 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_2228648488.jpg
01:03 Traxie21 clicky my link with speakers on please?
01:03 Traxie21 You won't be dissapointed
01:04 kaeza still waiting for something to happen
01:04 Traxie21 About 50 seconds in
01:04 Traxie21 its low volume until then
01:05 Traxie21 *30 seconds
01:05 Traxie21 0:58, epic part starts
01:05 kaeza now listening
01:05 kaeza :O
01:05 kaeza very cool
01:06 kaeza epic*
01:06 Traxie21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeA9Nus9Eg&list=PLKujbbfEGmdlA9HOQjqmIh6L7HrIlQhXb&shuffle=403
01:06 Traxie21 Another good one of his, but a bit more repetitive ^
01:06 Traxie21 That playlist is about all that I listen to :3
01:07 kaeza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1W_omigwg
01:08 Traxie21 O.O...
01:08 * Traxie21 Is rebooting adrenaline system
01:09 khonkhortisan /metasave works, though worldedit can only move so much at a time
01:09 NekoGloop|Laptop //metasave, you mean?
01:10 kaeza Traxie21, BTW, image size seems to work consistently with other widgets
01:10 khonkhortisan yes
01:10 khonkhortisan //metasave typed ///metasave to work in irc
01:10 kaeza at least for button_image
01:11 Traxie21 button_image differs form imge
01:11 Traxie21 I discovered this when I was working on the achievements mod
01:12 Traxie21 Btw, what do you recommend to get your mod noticed?
01:12 telek Post it on the forums :)
01:12 khonkhortisan If you can get it into mod releases, it's better than in modding general, but you have to have a license to do so.
01:12 telek And also not have any infringing material in it.
01:12 telek (Correct?)
01:13 kaeza Traxie21, I get what you mean; image is smaller than image_button, but they still use inv slots as measurement
01:13 Traxie21 Really?
01:14 Traxie21 I had a 0 0 size, and it was the only thing that showed up
01:14 VanessaE kaeza: can you post some kind of screenshot for the survival modpack?
01:14 VanessaE just something representative of it
01:14 Traxie21 Oh
01:14 Traxie21 I ought to put SE into mod releases
01:14 Traxie21 No wonder no one looks at it XD
01:14 kaeza VanessaE, it's pretty pointless, since nothing is "visual"
01:15 kaeza Traxie21, http://pastebin.com/05Q635Hi
01:15 kaeza that is the test code
01:15 VanessaE ok. moved anyway.
01:15 Traxie21 try using size[0,0] and see if image still renders
01:15 kaeza VanessaE, I will make a screenshot of the gauges
01:16 VanessaE ok
01:19 VanessaE Traxie21: moved.
01:19 Traxie21 TyvM :D
01:19 Traxie21 Now I might actually get some replies
01:20 Traxie21 Btw, If people want to start using it, AFAIK, the stable release is actually stable :O
01:21 NekoGloop|Laptop I. Want. A. FREAKIN'. 0.4.5!
01:21 kaeza NekoGloop|Laptop, SOON
01:21 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: soon.
01:22 kaeza lol
01:22 VanessaE ninja's
01:22 VanessaE 'd
01:22 NekoGloop|Laptop ninjas. ninjas everywhere.
01:22 Traxie21 So much that can be done with formspec, and no one does much with it :L
01:23 NekoGloop|Laptop Because I'm pretty much the only modder that halfassedly knows anything about it.
01:23 telek I don't care about the version number, I just want the random node thread crash fixed, and not to have random mods taking down my server because an object/player/node has disappeared while being accessed :D
01:23 Traxie21 @nekogloop
01:23 VanessaE Traxie21: seen the latest Unified Inventory? :)
01:23 NekoGloop|Laptop (RBA doesn't count seeing as he's pretty much playing god at this point)
01:23 Traxie21 http://ompldr.org/vaG1ueg/screenshot.png
01:23 Traxie21 Yeah
01:23 Traxie21 But theres a lot more that can be done than inventories
01:24 VanessaE sokomine has a similar mod, travelnet
01:24 Traxie21 Yeppers
01:24 Traxie21 Mine is an addon for ServerExtended warps
01:24 Traxie21 working on an entire player profile system ATM
01:27 kaeza VanessaE, this good enuff? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Kaeza-survival_modpack-bubbles.jpg
01:27 kaeza bubbles appear while underwater ^_^
01:28 NekoGloop|Laptop That's actually pretty cool
01:28 kaeza now, if someone could provide me with a nice "drinking" sound
01:29 kaeza lol? I'm hungry and it says "you are thirsty O.o
01:29 Traxie21 http://ompldr.org/vaG1ycg/Untitled.png
01:30 kaeza Traxie21, cool
01:30 kaeza does it get the profile from the net or smth like that?
01:30 Traxie21 Not functional yet
01:30 Traxie21 Nope
01:31 Traxie21 Will be server-specific
01:31 kaeza ah ok :)
01:31 khonkhortisan I have this long (straight) powered rail (from carts mod) The cart only gets about 100 meters before switching direction. My client has the whole rail loaded at the time.
01:31 Traxie21 written to /playerdata/[name].txt
01:32 khonkhortisan I might have to add two directions, and make them both one-way just to get the cart to the other side.
01:37 Kacey ...
01:38 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/c9jefxs.jpg
01:38 RealBadAngel how do you like UI now?
01:39 Kacey meh im more of a inv. plus person
01:39 kaeza RealBadAngel, O-M-G :O
01:43 telek Just make sure it either always fits inside the window, or there's a fallback in cases where the user's window is too small!
01:43 telek Cell phones and poor fools with old computers *cough* come to mind.
01:43 RealBadAngel 800x600 works fine, it fits
01:44 telek 8x6 is the minetest min?
01:44 * telek had figured it was 6x4, interesting.
01:48 kaeza well, I guess no one goes under 10x7 nowadays :P
01:52 Traxie21 Impressive RBA!
01:53 Traxie21 Cool Fact: Forum.minetest.net is one of the few sites that works perfectly on the Kindle web browser without needing to zoom in!
02:33 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/NMvhjbM.png
02:34 RealBadAngel technic got updated with new UI
02:42 Vadtec RealBadAngel: cool
02:49 kaeza http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2873#comic
02:58 Vadtec kaeza: lol
03:07 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on Vadtec's head
03:11 khonkhortisan I can't make a machine to take a cart on a rail and put it in a chest, the node breaker only takes the rail.
03:11 kaeza khonkhortisan, the cart is an entity
03:12 khonkhortisan I need something that can get an entity into a tube, then.
03:12 kaeza maybe code it yourself using the technic API?
03:13 khonkhortisan If it removed carts then nodes, I'd have to put a rail back every time, but it would work.
03:14 kaeza hmm
03:15 khonkhortisan lol the cart doesn't fall
03:16 kaeza Isn't there a carts mod that stores the items the cart is carrying into a chest?
03:16 khonkhortisan I could build a house out of carts
03:16 kaeza lol
03:16 khonkhortisan I don't know, the carts mod I have turns around if the rail is too long
03:17 kaeza if you can store things into a chest, you can have a filter take them out and transport them elsewhere
03:18 khonkhortisan I want to have a cart collection system where you have to take a cart out of a chest to use the rail, then it goes back in the chest when you're done.
03:18 kaeza ah
03:18 kaeza hmm
03:19 kaeza maybe create a "cart collector rail"
03:19 kaeza that sends the cart to a neaby chest
03:19 kaeza nearby*
03:27 kaeza lol changing map generator after map is generated: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_690068789.jpg
03:28 khonkhortisan deleting map_meta.txt without deleting map.sqlite will do that
03:28 kaeza this particular one is an old 0.3.1 map I have
03:29 kaeza loaded again into 0.4.4
03:30 kaeza also, the floor of my house was made of sand: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_690281065.jpg
03:36 Exio kaeza: at some point having things like that with the 3d noise will be awesoem
03:37 * khonkhortisan just saw a cart fly out of the ground
04:17 kaeza Anyone knows a good Gtk3 theme?
04:18 khonkhortisan I like the one with the dark green buttons
04:18 kaeza I'm bored of Ambience and Radiance
04:18 khonkhortisan Try going transparent
04:21 kaeza I'm looking for something bluish, like Clearlooks classic
04:22 kaeza this one looks pretty: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+w7?content=156016
04:23 khonkhortisan The scrollbars have lines for better grip
04:26 hmmmm by the way, does anybody actually like the new sand?
04:26 hmmmm isn't it a little bit too yellow?
04:26 kaeza hmmmm, new sand?
04:26 hmmmm yeah the one in minetest_game
04:26 kaeza gosh, need to update mt_game
04:27 hmmmm i usually use minimal
04:33 kaeza hmm... must be pulling the wrong repo; don't see any change with old sand
04:43 kaeza O-M-G YAY!! Found my first nyancat!!
04:46 khonkhortisan yay!
04:46 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_694794876.jpg
04:46 khonkhortisan mod?
04:46 kaeza nope
04:46 kaeza plain vanilla game
04:46 khonkhortisan why in the sky?
04:46 kaeza dunno
04:47 kaeza actually, it should be in a mountain
04:47 kaeza I'm using the flat mapgen
05:24 RealBadAngel UI is updated again
05:24 RealBadAngel this time with sounds :)
05:25 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic
05:26 Kacey kernel panicked
05:32 OldCoder MiJyn, are you around? PM?
05:33 VanessaE zzzz
05:34 * kaeza puts a water_source on VanessaE's head: her house floods
05:34 kaeza ah right
05:34 * VanessaE grabs an erlehmann sponge
05:34 kaeza finite liquids ;)
05:36 kaeza lol my underwater base completely flooded
05:36 VanessaE oops :)
05:36 kaeza I used a water elevator :(
05:37 kaeza also, my technic water mill farm was broken
05:38 MiJyn OldCoder, I guess
05:38 MiJyn but not for long
05:41 kaeza hmm... indeed the PRNG used to generate junglegrass generates patterns
05:41 MiJyn bye all :)
05:41 VanessaE kaeza: which is why I use perlin noise to place the grass, and a second random instance to break up those damn patterns
05:42 Vadtec sup peeps
05:42 VanessaE hey Vadtec
05:42 Vadtec how goes it
05:43 kaeza hi Vadtec
05:43 VanessaE it goes :)
05:43 Vadtec VanessaE: im gonna try to finish those lsystems for the juniper this weekend
05:44 Vadtec it still needs some tweaking
05:44 VanessaE oh cool
05:45 Vadtec when is 0.4.5 supposed to come out? next week?
05:45 VanessaE in a few weeks or less I think
05:46 Vadtec oh, i thought it was more imminent than that...
05:46 Kacey 0.4.5?
05:46 Kacey already?
05:46 VanessaE *checks blog*
05:46 VanessaE "We’ll try to make a proper release in a month or so, as/if a more suitable time is found."
05:47 VanessaE so that sounds like mid to late march
05:48 Vadtec ah
05:48 Vadtec i thought with the feature freeze it was gonna happen more quickly
05:48 OldCoder Hi
05:48 VanessaE that's the idea :)
05:48 VanessaE hey OldCoder
05:49 OldCoder Folks, Octupus isn't around much these days... if somebody sees him ask him to speak with me. Thanks.
05:49 Kacey hi OC
05:49 OldCoder Hi!
05:49 VanessaE sure will
05:49 OldCoder k!
05:52 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaG10OQ/screenshot_698856322.png i am awesome at interiors ^_^
05:53 kaeza nice
05:54 VanessaE heh
05:55 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaG10YQ/screenshot_699089686.png bookshelves ^_^
05:56 Vadtec night peeps
05:56 kaeza night
05:57 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_699123186.jpg
05:59 kaeza trust me, never /set fov 150
05:59 Kacey lol
06:00 lumerianking OldCoder,
06:00 lumerianking how have you been?
06:00 VanessaE kaeza: come on, make a HDX mese pick :)
06:00 VanessaE using the cotton mod, there should be enough colors to make a reasonable approximation of it :)
06:01 kaeza VanessaE, once I finish a pirate poker face based off my 60px forum avatar ;)
06:01 VanessaE heh
06:01 VanessaE ok, bedtime fo rme
06:01 VanessaE night all
06:01 kaeza I'll make the 512px mese pick ^_^
06:01 kaeza night V
06:03 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaG10ZQ/screenshot_699522299.png looks better with cobble floor
06:04 kaeza Kacey, see the cactus just above the crosshair? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_699475572.jpg
06:04 kaeza how far is it?
06:04 Kacey idk
06:04 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_699507047.jpg
06:04 kaeza 12 nodes
06:04 Kacey lol wow
06:06 kaeza I think I found a way to simulate a sniper rifle in singleplayer
06:06 kaeza /set fov 10
06:07 kaeza I wish MT had an API for camera/view control...
06:08 OldCoder
06:08 OldCoder monkeycoder, hi
06:08 OldCoder lumerianking, a bit worn around the edges
06:43 Kacey night all
08:04 dlittledlite Hi
10:27 rubenwardy hi all
10:51 Deivan Hello... I renamed my mod to aaaaaa_cdr but this still loading after all others... How I make him load first without change all other mods?
10:52 Deivan I am very close to overwrite the default mod... -.-
10:57 RealBadAngel Deivan, me too ;)
10:57 RealBadAngel btw, check latest version of UI
10:57 Deivan I only need the recipe list... This don't is very much... :-o
10:58 Deivan This is my problem... UI and the old crafting guide is loaded in the midle of mod load, don't the first one.
10:58 RealBadAngel at some point i will fix engines get_recipe to return table with all matches
10:58 Deivan But my mod is allways the last one. -.-
10:58 RealBadAngel my already requires deletion of creative from default
10:59 RealBadAngel since UI is already part of technic i rather will go with it game way
11:00 Deivan UI is a big problem here, I renewed the workbench mod and the UI in incompatible...
11:00 RealBadAngel UI will have customizable buttons
11:00 RealBadAngel im rewriting whole sections of the mod
11:00 RealBadAngel it has now new look and sounds
11:01 Deivan Don't is a button question, the crafting area is 2x2 at default but have 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5 if you have workbenchs with you.
11:01 Deivan UI have the same solution, using a aaa_recipeshook, but here is the last one load -.-
11:02 RealBadAngel i wont search for another Lua solution, i will patch the engine
11:02 Deivan This make me hapy. :D
11:02 RealBadAngel but have some other projects started, this have to wait
11:02 Deivan This don't is a lua question at last...
11:02 Deivan Ok.
11:03 RealBadAngel in a week or two i will make it
11:03 Deivan Nice.
11:03 RealBadAngel then the problem will be gone
11:03 RealBadAngel this weekend i want 6d facedir definitely finished
11:04 Deivan Well... Then I will cover all my other projects (renew of lavacooling, crafting guide and workbench)
11:04 Deivan I think I will start a mob project from the zero...
11:05 kaeza erm...possible adult content? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73389#p73389
11:05 RealBadAngel maybe i will finish today UI's API for folks being able to add more fuctions to it
11:05 Jordach kaeza, cant tell if last topic looked at..
11:05 * Jordach checks.
11:05 Jordach it twas.
11:06 kaeza I will just save the image in my HD as *ahem* evidence
11:07 RealBadAngel jin_xi, kaeza, Jordach: check out UI now
11:07 * Jordach runs a IP tracer on kaeza's router
11:07 kaeza RealBadAngel, k
11:07 * Jordach sees things that no-one should see
11:07 kaeza Jordach, /whois
11:07 RealBadAngel with VanessaE we have added lotsa stuff last night
11:08 kaeza RealBadAngel, seen the new image buttons
11:08 kaeza and the background :)
11:08 RealBadAngel ha! gotchya
11:08 RealBadAngel you cannot SEE the changes ;)
11:08 kaeza very nice work there
11:08 kaeza how so?
11:08 RealBadAngel pump up the volume :)
11:09 * Jordach should get around to fixing a certain bug in my VOXEL MODELER
11:09 Jordach it exports in .x
11:09 Jordach (yes, the choice of smooth it on export or leave as blocks is a choice.)
11:10 kaeza Jordach, can it export as nodeboxes?
11:10 Jordach kaeza, thats a later function
11:11 kaeza nice
11:11 Jordach kaeza, i'd piss on Boris' topic with a image at 13000x12000
11:11 Jordach my 3d renders usually head for 25500
11:11 kaeza rubenwardy was going to start his nodebox modeller again
11:12 Jordach kaeza, mine is the same style of placing nodes
11:12 jin_xi RealBadAngel: link?
11:12 Jordach (eg, as you would in minetest.)
11:12 RealBadAngel jin_xi, update technic just
11:12 RealBadAngel UI is part of it
11:12 jin_xi ok
11:13 RealBadAngel all technic machines will use same style
11:13 kaeza hmm...
11:13 kaeza for some reason I can't see the images now
11:14 RealBadAngel what images?
11:15 Jordach updating apt
11:16 kaeza ah there
11:16 kaeza my bad, it was loading an old version of Unified Inventory
11:16 Jordach afternoon PilzAdam
11:16 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:17 yugiohjcj_ Hello, I read "Minetest is an infinite-world..." on the website, does it means that I can't reach the end of the world walking in the same direction ?
11:17 Deivan Ok, I make a depend.txt to the default module and now my mod is working first... :-P
11:17 Deivan AFK
11:17 kaeza RealBadAngel, looking awesome: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-03-02%2009%3A15%3A58.jpg
11:18 RealBadAngel kaeza, turn on creative and test the sounds
11:18 RealBadAngel with creative there are 3 more icons
11:18 kaeza ah with sound too??
11:19 kaeza cool
11:19 Jordach kaeza, FOOD MOD USER ALARM
11:19 kaeza Jordach, ?
11:19 kaeza Jordach, Survival Modpack :)
11:20 kaeza hunger+thirst+drowning+lavasuit
11:21 kaeza RealBadAngel, small suggestion: the "click" sound is too quiet or that "ding dong" from sethome is too loud
11:22 * Jordach would like to remind people that Jordach does not use sound in Minetest
11:22 kaeza I can barely hear the click at max volume
11:23 RealBadAngel i can raise level of click
11:23 kaeza frach
11:23 kaeza ck*
11:23 RealBadAngel Jordach, cmon, sound is fun
11:23 Jordach RealBadAngel, WASTE OF CPU
11:23 kaeza I hit the last button in creative :(
11:23 RealBadAngel hehe
11:24 RealBadAngel trash can :)
11:24 RealBadAngel with it you can clear creative inv
11:24 Jordach oh thank fuck
11:24 kaeza all my inventory is gone!!!
11:24 yugiohjcj_ why we have 2 minetest websites (minetest.com and minetest.net) ?
11:24 Jordach yugiohjcj_, minetest.com is OUTDATED.
11:24 kaeza yugiohjcj_, and .org
11:24 kaeza but that's another story
11:25 Jordach .org is OldCoder's server nexus
11:25 kaeza yep
11:25 yugiohjcj_ is not confusing to have so many websites ?
11:26 kaeza !g minetest
11:26 kaeza ?
11:26 Jordach minetestbot aint here
11:26 Jordach sfan5|OFF, ^^^
11:26 kaeza yugiohjcj_, If you google "minetest", the first result is .net
11:26 yugiohjcj_ I don't know how I have done to have bookmarked minetest.com ^^
11:27 kaeza yugiohjcj_, also, .com means "commercial" which minetest isn't
11:28 kaeza RealBadAngel, those "set day" / "set night" do a really nice addition
11:29 kaeza +buttons
11:29 Jordach "You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-master/games/minetest_game/mods/xds.txtgames""
11:29 Jordach DAFUQ?
11:30 kaeza wat
11:30 kaeza .txtgames?
11:31 Jordach kaeza, downloaded moreores and the shiz needed for technic
11:31 Jordach mesecons and stairs+ worked
11:32 Jordach moreores and technic didnt#
11:32 kaeza Jordach, git clone?
11:32 Jordach kaeza, nodeload.github.com
11:35 berome "You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///home/jordach/ <-that's not OK. Did you compileor install it as root ?
11:37 kaeza Jordach, looks like your archiver is fuxxed
11:37 Jordach berome, installed by xubuntu disc
11:42 berome arf !? I think you should use some chown comand, (with recursivelly option) on /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-master/
11:42 berome because /home is THE place user should have full rights
11:44 berome and apt or synaptic or package manager had installed it "contaminating"files with root permissions
11:44 berome at less I think, but take someone more opinion about that :-)
11:45 kaeza so... does anyone have more comments suggestions on my internationalization lib?
11:49 kaeza hmm... one small bug I just noticed
11:50 kaeza when passing a nil value as `name' to minetest.chat_send_player(), it sometimes crashes the server (with an appropriate error message) and sometimes it does not show the message at all, continuing normally.
11:54 Jordach RealBadAngel, why are the recipes for technic items not in the craftbook
11:55 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4953
11:58 RealBadAngel Jordach, i need to fix get recipe funtcion
11:58 RealBadAngel it is not right it returns just one possible
11:59 jin_xi thexyz: nice, will try to rewrite painting with it sometimes
11:59 RealBadAngel and hooking does not work properly because you cannot force your mod to be loaded first
12:00 Jordach RealBadAngel, just support the mods manually rather than scan it
12:00 RealBadAngel with all the recipes?
12:00 RealBadAngel vanessa got severl k of nodes lol
12:01 RealBadAngel i will just fix fucked up Lua function
12:01 RealBadAngel it has to return all registered recipes not just the first one found
12:02 kaeza thexyz, looks good
12:02 RealBadAngel we dont have to find way in through window when doors being fucked up
12:04 kaeza RealBadAngel, how about making a change to minetest_game so all calls to minetest.register_craft() are stored into, for example, a minetest.registered_crafts[] table?
12:04 kaeza just like with nodes, etc
12:04 RealBadAngel its not Lua function
12:04 RealBadAngel its c++
12:04 kaeza ah
12:05 RealBadAngel i raised that problem some time ago
12:05 RealBadAngel but then darkrose said its a proper behaviour
12:05 RealBadAngel bullshit
12:05 kaeza +1
12:05 kaeza this should be available to mods
12:06 RealBadAngel and it will be
12:07 kaeza well, minetest.register_node works this way
12:07 kaeza it cheks arguments, stores into registered_nodes, and then calls register_node_raw
12:07 kaeza register_node_raw, I suppose, is in C++
12:10 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/scriptapi.cpp#L5430
12:10 RealBadAngel this has to be changed
12:10 RealBadAngel dont stop on if (got)
12:10 RealBadAngel but iterate over all recipes
12:11 kaeza RealBadAngel, if a minetest.registered_crafts was available, this could also be implemented easily in Lua
12:12 kaeza it's not that this function will be called THAT often to need a C++ implementation
12:12 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, be sure to not break backwards compatibility when fixing it
12:13 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i will try ;)
12:13 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, have you tried latest update to UI?
12:13 PilzAdam you mean unified inventory?
12:14 RealBadAngel yes
12:14 PilzAdam I dont use this mod
12:14 RealBadAngel it has new new gfx and sfx
12:15 RealBadAngel ah ok
12:16 RealBadAngel another stuff: you know that minetest can play local sounds?
12:16 RealBadAngel not sent by server
12:16 RealBadAngel i modified ambience mod to play all the music only to the client
12:18 kaeza RealBadAngel, now we need a way to send local settings to server :)
12:19 kaeza I'm thinking of customized sound alerts when someone pings you in game chat
12:19 RealBadAngel not really
12:19 RealBadAngel we do need default sounds for everything just
12:19 RealBadAngel if not provided by the server they gonna be fetched locally
12:20 RealBadAngel by now default dir is called /testsounds
12:20 RealBadAngel and files named name.x.ogg
12:20 RealBadAngel x= 0 to 9
12:20 kaeza like other files right?
12:20 RealBadAngel but this can be easily changed
12:20 kaeza is this in master already?
12:20 RealBadAngel yes
12:20 RealBadAngel for ages
12:21 kaeza define 'ages'
12:21 kaeza I've been out for almost a month
12:21 RealBadAngel ages
12:21 kaeza ok :)
12:21 kaeza so I just missed that part :)
12:22 RealBadAngel it is some test code some1 made moths ago
12:22 RealBadAngel i cannot find origins
12:22 jin_xi try git blame
12:22 kaeza can this be done also for textures?
12:22 RealBadAngel propably yes, just use same way
12:23 RealBadAngel hold on
12:23 kaeza seeing client-provided skins is one of the ideas that come to mind
12:23 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/game.cpp#L847
12:23 RealBadAngel read this function
12:24 RealBadAngel it is self explaining
12:25 kaeza good
12:25 RealBadAngel just remove hardcoded names
12:25 RealBadAngel allow any,and ambience is local
12:26 RealBadAngel at least its sound files
12:26 kaeza so I assume that the sounds are also player-only?
12:27 RealBadAngel yes
12:27 RealBadAngel client side only
12:27 RealBadAngel so whole ambience mod now has sense
12:28 RealBadAngel basic of it shall become minetest_game
12:28 RealBadAngel default sounds stored local
12:28 yugiohjcj_ I read "Minetest is an infinite-world..." on the website, does it means that I can't reach the end of the world walking in the same direction ?
12:28 kaeza modifying that to support *actually* sending of the textures (skins) to server would need lots of work
12:28 RealBadAngel for another theme you shall get only new sounds set
12:28 kaeza and prolly a change in protocol
12:29 RealBadAngel if players yes
12:29 RealBadAngel but if game skins, backgrounds etc, no
12:29 kaeza yugiohjcj_, if you don't use teleport or fly/fast, it takes about 4 (IRL) days to get to the end of the world
12:30 yugiohjcj_ wow !
12:30 yugiohjcj_ it's big
12:30 kaeza about 32000 nodes in each dir
12:30 kaeza save for heaven/hell
12:30 kaeza same*
12:32 yugiohjcj_ in singleplayer mode if I walk I must wait a moment because the next zone isn't yet loaded... is it normal is it so slow ?
12:33 kaeza RealBadAngel, you should put a nice notice above the last button in UI that says in alternating red/yellow letters "THIS LITTLE BUTTON WILL GET RID OF ALL YOUR HARD EARNED STUFF!" lol
12:34 kaeza "USE WITH CARE!" :P
12:34 RealBadAngel hehe
12:34 RealBadAngel need to add tooltips for those buttons just
12:35 RealBadAngel ive added them for item_image_buttons
12:35 kaeza hmm... now that you mention it, formspecs don't support tooltips except for inventory items
12:35 kaeza ah
12:35 RealBadAngel item_image_button also have tooltips
12:36 RealBadAngel will add the same for another elements
12:37 thexyz markveidemanis: plz stop changing hosts
12:37 markveidemanis What?
12:37 thexyz 16:35 --> markveidemanis [568eed5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.142.237.90] has joined #minetest
12:37 markveidemanis ip changes on every restart
12:37 thexyz 16:35 <-- markveidemanis [568eed5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.142.237.90] has quit (Changing host)
12:37 thexyz 16:35 --> markveidemanis [568eed5a@unaffiliated/markveidemanis] has joined #minetest
12:37 kaeza thexyz, I'm getting 502 bad gateway accessing the forums
12:37 thexyz 16:35 <-- markveidemanis [568eed5a@unaffiliated/markveidemanis] has quit (Changing host)
12:38 thexyz 16:35 --> markveidemanis [568eed5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.142.237.90] has joined #minetest
12:38 thexyz kaeza: no idea
12:38 thexyz works fine for me
12:38 markveidemanis idk why that happens
12:38 markveidemanis maybe because im cloaked and it changes host, then changes back
12:39 thexyz 2013/03/02 16:37:16 [error] 18516#0: *17339321 upstream sent too big header while reading response header from upstream, client: , server: forum.minetest.net, request: "GET /viewtopic.php?pid=73407 HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/tmp/fastcgi.socket:", host: "forum.minetest.net", referrer: "http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_recent"
12:39 thexyz well, crap
12:40 kaeza erm... does that mean the error is on my side?
12:40 thexyz no
12:41 kaeza ah well... I thought I fuxxed up my browser :P
12:44 markveidemanis who can help me with python
12:49 RealBadAngel im not, im afraid of snakes...
12:53 thexyz markveidemanis: what help do you need?
12:53 markveidemanis to make a GUI
12:53 markveidemanis but im not installing any libraries
12:54 kaeza markveidemanis, there are no GUI libs in python by default IIRC
12:54 thexyz I've never made GUI in python so I cannot help
12:54 thexyz kaeza: tk
12:54 kaeza Python for Windows has Tkinter
12:55 kaeza thexyz, that's in by default on linux?
12:55 markveidemanis ok, it works but no idea how to use it :D
12:55 kaeza markveidemanis, PM?
12:55 markveidemanis k
12:56 thexyz kaeza: it depends
12:57 kaeza not on Ubuntu 12.04 at least
12:57 thexyz i guess most distros have it
12:57 thexyz no?
12:57 * kaeza doublechecks
12:57 thexyz well, recompile it with USE="tk"
12:57 kaeza hmm... looks like I am wrong
12:57 thexyz oh, wait
12:58 kaeza it's already installed
12:58 kaeza no wait
12:58 kaeza I installed it manually the other day
12:58 kaeza using pip
13:02 RealBadAngel updated Haven TP with new mining drill textures
13:07 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/cLlctQJ.jpg
13:09 markveidemanis Who wants to play skyblock?
13:10 RealBadAngel do you have a server with it?
13:10 markveidemanis ues
13:10 markveidemanis yes
13:10 markveidemanis its on my server
13:10 RealBadAngel gimme ip
13:10 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010
13:11 markveidemanis il teleport you
13:11 markveidemanis or type .go skyblock
13:11 RealBadAngel a few minutes
13:11 markveidemanis /go skyblock
13:11 markveidemanis k
13:15 RealBadAngel its compiling, meanwhile going out for 5 minutes to do some shopping
13:15 RealBadAngel brb
13:29 markveidemanis Hi
13:29 markveidemanis I am having a vote
13:29 markveidemanis should i (right now) put up a server with ONLY default mods?
13:31 Jordach this also is a interact on join server too?
13:32 markveidemanis its local so whatever u want
13:32 markveidemanis il start a new map
13:32 markveidemanis whats your vote?
13:36 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4956
13:46 thexyz sdzen: got your "new language" request
13:49 kaeza still getting 502 from forums
13:50 thexyz hm
13:50 thexyz well
13:50 sdzen haha :P
13:50 thexyz i'll try to add random things to my nginx.conf
13:50 thexyz and hope it'll work
13:50 kaeza anyone got that error?
13:51 thexyz kaeza: does it work now?
13:51 kaeza let's se
13:51 kaeza nope :(
13:51 kaeza BTW It's when I follow a link from the "Active Topics" page
13:52 thexyz no idea
13:52 thexyz try clearing cookies
13:53 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, i dont have privs
13:53 kaeza AHA!
13:53 kaeza thexyz, I logged out and back in and now it works
13:53 kaeza seems something fuxxed up the cookies
13:54 thexyz well, I've just added two more random settings to nginx.conf
13:54 thexyz let's hope it'll work fine
14:05 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, stone generator is not working
14:06 markveidemanis stone?
14:06 kaeza thanks xyz, and sorry for the troubles :)
14:06 markveidemanis what do you mean
14:07 RealBadAngel cant make cobbe out of lava and water
14:08 markveidemanis oh yea...
14:08 markveidemanis sry
14:08 markveidemanis umm...
14:08 markveidemanis /go mine and get cobble lol
14:08 RealBadAngel this was vital point of skyblock
14:08 markveidemanis i need OC to add obsidian
14:11 RealBadAngel OC?
14:11 RealBadAngel OldCoder?
14:16 kaeza RealBadAngel, there's a weird glitch when using mesecons along with item_drop from technic, but I don't really know if it's a bug in item_drop or mesecons
14:17 kaeza long story short, mesecons receiver are dropped twice; once on creation and once when dug
14:18 kaeza thus allowing you to get infinite mesecons wires
14:30 markveidemanis_ sry crashed browser
14:31 kaeza markveidemanis, have you though about using a real IRC client?
14:31 markveidemanis i have but i dont like them
14:32 markveidemanis if i use browser, i can have 1 window for minetest forum and freenode
14:32 kaeza Alt+Tab works too
14:39 Infinity_69 hi
14:39 Infinity_69 kaeza
14:39 kaeza sup
14:42 Infinity_69 y u no like my coding skillz_
14:42 Infinity_69 its mah b-day
14:42 Infinity_69 :D
14:42 markveidemanis how do i load variables from another file in python?
14:42 thexyz what's the point of using cloak with webchat?
14:42 markveidemanis dont want the storyline to be in the code
14:42 Jordach markveidemanis, most programming languages with GLOBAL variables can access them
14:42 Infinity_69 cmon
14:43 Jordach even if they're included
14:43 thexyz flooding our chat with joins?
14:43 Infinity_69 nobody wishes me a happy b-day?
14:43 thexyz happy birthday, Infinity_69
14:43 * Jordach would like MinetestBot to say happy birthday
14:43 Infinity_69 thank you, thexyz
14:43 Infinity_69 :)
14:43 Infinity_69 lawl
14:43 thexyz I would like MinetestBot to just sit here silently
14:43 Infinity_69 yeah :D
14:44 thexyz like it already does
14:44 Infinity_69 like this...
14:44 * VanessaE peeks in
14:44 Infinity_69 prsn1 = "It's my birthday today"
14:45 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/tq2TX1TY
14:45 Infinity_69 MinetestBot = "Happy Birthday, $NICK"
14:45 Infinity_69 vanessae...
14:45 Infinity_69 its my bday
14:45 Infinity_69 :)
14:45 Infinity_69 im 14
14:46 VanessaE yay
14:46 Infinity_69 what?
14:46 Infinity_69 no wishes?
14:46 VanessaE happy birthday
14:46 Infinity_69 thank you :)
14:46 Infinity_69 http://grassblock.bugs3.com/
14:46 markveidemanis Hold on...il make you a preseent
14:46 VanessaE damn whipper-snappers. I'm nearly 3x your age. get off my lawn :)
14:46 Infinity_69 what do you think vanessae
14:47 Infinity_69 mark, rlly?
14:47 markveidemanis yep, making now
14:47 markveidemanis in python
14:48 markveidemanis it'll say happy birthday
14:48 Infinity_69 oh :D
14:48 Infinity_69 thats E-Z
14:48 Infinity_69 xD
14:48 markveidemanis with a GUI
14:49 Infinity_69 o.o
14:49 Infinity_69 Graphical User Interface RULZ
14:50 Infinity_69 hurry up mby?
14:51 kaeza VanessaE, happy birthday to you too (a bit off-date, but...)
14:51 VanessaE thanks
14:51 * kaeza has been stalking the IRC logs :D
14:51 kaeza sowwy
14:51 Jordach thexyz, then sfan5 is wasting bandwidth
14:52 thexyz ?
14:52 Jordach thexyz, if you havent realised this yet, i've found a way out of my depression.
14:54 thexyz ?
14:55 Jordach thexyz, i'm half as grumpy as i used to be
14:57 thexyz great
14:57 Jordach thexyz, being monotonous is bad.
14:58 Infinity_69 mark
14:58 Jordach thexyz, have fun, enjoy your day etc.
14:58 Infinity_69 if your ready, then upload it to http://grassblock.bugs3.com/projects/my_file.php
14:58 Infinity_69 i will look at all of the presents when i get back
14:58 Infinity_69 :)
15:00 Infinity_69 john
15:00 Infinity_69 http://grassblock.bugs3.com/projects/my_file.php
15:00 Infinity_69 uplaod a present for my b-day
15:00 Infinity_69 i got 14 today
15:00 Infinity_69 bye
15:03 kaeza LOL: Why do programmers always mix up Halloween and Christmas? Because Oct 31 equals Dec 25.
15:03 kaeza
15:16 markveidemanis http://grassblock.bugs3.com/projects/uploads/test.py
15:17 markveidemanis how do i use variables from other files in python
15:17 markveidemanis a file for the code and one for the storyline
15:17 RealBadAngel there are only 10 kinds of ppl that understand this joke, those who do and those who dont... ;)
15:18 PilzAdam markveidemanis, why do you ask this here?
15:18 markveidemanis idk...
15:18 thexyz why do you put those #end's?
15:18 markveidemanis not my code
15:18 markveidemanis i only do storyline
15:18 markveidemanis kaeza did them
15:21 kaeza thexyz, it's my coding style
15:21 markveidemanis kaeza
15:22 markveidemanis if i set ui output to a global variable, it says unknown command
15:22 markveidemanis ui.output(inventory);
15:23 M|Infinity_69 Hi
15:24 markveidemanis i uploaded the 'present'
15:24 M|Infinity_69 John_minetest
15:24 M|Infinity_69 Thanks
15:25 kaeza hi rubenwardy
15:25 * VanessaE pokes rubenwardy, just because
15:25 rubenwardy hi
15:25 M|Infinity_69 Rube, its my bday
15:25 VanessaE :)
15:25 rubenwardy :P
15:25 * rubenwardy returns that poke
15:26 rubenwardy yes kaeza, the nodebox editor is buggy
15:26 kaeza rubenwardy, I hope my small contrib helps
15:26 markveidemanis kaeza
15:26 M|Infinity_69 Ruben!
15:26 rubenwardy It does :D
15:26 M|Infinity_69 RUBEN!
15:26 rubenwardy have you seen what happens on the lattest version when you press A/D on a nodebox?
15:27 kaeza testing
15:27 M|Infinity_69 O.o
15:27 rubenwardy It shrinks then increases
15:27 M|Infinity_69 Ruben, please ='(
15:28 M|Infinity_69 Rubenwardy, please wish me a happy bday
15:29 sfan5 Jordach: what?
15:29 M|Infinity_69 Sfan5, it b mah bday
15:29 markveidemanis want to test the alpha release of my game first?
15:30 M|Infinity_69 I cant, im M|
15:30 kaeza rubenwardy, can you add a new node yet?
15:30 rubenwardy no
15:30 markveidemanis i know, but it will only be finished like couple of hrs
15:30 M|Infinity_69 Rube
15:31 rubenwardy I want the nodebox resize and output to work first
15:31 rubenwardy It has the capabiliyu
15:31 kaeza but I have no boxes :(
15:31 kaeza ah there
15:32 markveidemanis kaeza
15:32 M|Infinity_69 Rubenwardy
15:32 kaeza now... how do I "select" it?
15:34 VanessaE aw shit
15:34 VanessaE everyone hide, he's back
15:34 M|Infinity_69 Who
15:36 kaeza hmmmm... should I randomly ping someone?
15:36 kaeza oh crap
15:36 VanessaE kaeza: why? ;)
15:36 M|Infinity_69 Ping me K
15:37 hmmmm PONG
15:37 M|Infinity_69 Lawl
15:40 M|Infinity_69 Hmmmmm
15:40 M|Infinity_69 Hmmmm*
15:41 M|Infinity_69 Its my bday .-.
15:43 RealBadAngel happy birth day M|Infinity_69
15:43 M|Infinity_69 Thanks
15:43 * M|Infinity_69 will brb, checking fb msgs
15:50 M|Infinity_69 Hi
15:51 M|Infinity_69 Hi wd
15:52 M|Infinity_69 Cal
15:52 M|Infinity_69 Its my bday
15:52 Calinou hi
15:52 * Calinou smells fake
15:53 Calinou did I win?
15:53 Jordach ...and gay>
15:53 M|Infinity_69 No, rly
15:53 M|Infinity_69 It is my bday
15:53 M|Infinity_69 Http://www.Fb.com/askleptios
15:54 M|Infinity_69 Its me, ragnar
15:54 M|Infinity_69 Cana-duh
15:54 Calinou john_minetest: I too can throw felix baumgartner in the space
15:54 Calinou :-D
15:54 M|Infinity_69 Xd
15:54 Calinou jump from 39km -- inverse edition
15:55 M|Infinity_69 Me 1st
15:55 M|Infinity_69 Cal, no "happy bday"?
15:55 M|Infinity_69 -.
15:55 Calinou "happy bday"
15:56 M|Infinity_69 No quotes
15:56 M|Infinity_69 Cal, dequoge
15:56 * kaeza feels the quiethammer coming shortly...
15:57 Calinou 'happy bday'
15:57 M|Infinity_69 No single quotes
15:57 M|Infinity_69 ='(
15:58 M|Infinity_69 Rube
15:58 Calinou « happy bday »
15:58 M|Infinity_69 Its my bday
15:58 Calinou “happy bdayâ€, better :P
15:58 * M|Infinity_69 added calinou to the list of hated people
15:59 kaeza *and not a single fuck was given that day
15:59 Calinou have you ever seen quotes like this in an english book?
15:59 VanessaE ARGH
15:59 VanessaE quotes are SUPERSCRIPT damn it
15:59 VanessaE not subscript
16:00 kaeza I see zalgo text coming right up
16:00 * Jordach trolls everyone by installing windows xp sp3 on linux
16:00 Calinou french quotes: « » (spaces before and after), english quotes: “ †(space before or after)
16:00 M|Infinity_69 No!
16:00 Calinou programmer's quotes: "" and ''
16:00 Calinou :P
16:00 Jordach Calinou, "True"
16:00 M|Infinity_69 Xd
16:01 kaeza you forgot those silly japanese quotes... whatever they are called
16:01 Jordach if (Calinou == "True") jordach_dies();
16:01 M|Infinity_69 Nice
16:01 M|Infinity_69 Php4dummies
16:02 rubenwardy kaeza: the last box place is seleted
16:02 rubenwardy selected
16:02 M|Infinity_69 Ruben
16:02 kaeza rubenwardy, yes, I see :P
16:02 rubenwardy you see the glitch?
16:02 kaeza but the input system is a bit...buggy :P
16:02 rubenwardy the maths in the console is currect
16:02 rubenwardy correct
16:03 rubenwardy but, the output is not when scaled
16:03 kaeza current*
16:03 kaeza :P
16:03 rubenwardy no, correct
16:03 M|Infinity_69 jew-jitsu
16:03 rubenwardy I have M|Infinity_69 on ignore
16:03 M|Infinity_69 Oh
16:04 rubenwardy I saw you trying to contact me on the log
16:04 VanessaE ...
16:04 rubenwardy wat up VanessaE?
16:04 VanessaE nuffin'
16:05 kaeza rubenwardy, you mean about it not scaling correctly?
16:05 rubenwardy When you press A/D, it scale properly
16:05 rubenwardy but when the size is updated
16:05 rubenwardy it goes from one size to another
16:05 rubenwardy flickering
16:05 kaeza yep
16:06 M|Infinity_69 K tell r its my bday
16:06 rubenwardy Happy Birthday!
16:12 M|Infinity_69 I didnt see it
16:12 M|Infinity_69 But thanks
16:12 kaeza wat O.o now Esc is acting as "shrink"? O.o
16:12 M|Infinity_69 Lawl
16:13 kaeza seems like input is queued but not retrieved fast enuff
16:13 M|Infinity_69 Psbk
16:13 * Calinou finished 1st in a trackmania race (server with 27 players)
16:13 kaeza ...or not retrieved at all
16:13 M|Infinity_69 Psbl*
16:13 Calinou only 3 players finished the race in 8 minutes because it was a hard map :P
16:13 kaeza maybe input thread blocking, or csmth like that
16:13 kaeza -c
16:14 M|Infinity_69 Whats (+cnt)
16:16 M|Infinity_69 Kaeza
16:18 Kacey hi all
16:20 Calinou no color codes, no messages from outside, topic protection, the late M|Infinity_69 :P
16:27 Kacey how to i make teleport tubes?
16:31 Calinou /newent teleport
16:31 Jordach why arent we allowed colors?
16:31 VanessaE because some folks are irritated by them
16:31 Calinou colors are for mIRC users, they invented 'em :P
16:32 VanessaE Calinou: no, I'm pretty sure ANSI and VT102 were around before mIRC
16:35 hmmmm hey calinou, just a suggestion but whenever you're doing the changelogs it'd be really nice if the changes were categorized by which component of minetest, and whether they were big, new features that were added, minor changes, minor editions, bugfixes, etc.
16:35 hmmmm so if you could just remember to staple the cover sheets on your TPS reports from now on that'd be great
16:35 hmmmm and i'll send you another copy of the memo
16:37 Kacey RealBadAngel, PING
16:38 markveidemanis kaeza
16:40 Calinou hmmmm: ok then, I'll try to do it for future changelogs then
16:40 Calinou since you made your own version for the 0.4.4 → 0.4.5 changelog
16:42 hmmmm well that's not by any means finished
16:42 hmmmm i was hoping somebody could fill the rest in. i am not aware of any of the minetest_game additions or changes, for example, and the bugfixes are too numerous for me to write all those in
16:43 RealBadAngel pong
16:43 Kacey hi rba
16:43 markveidemanis who can help with Python
16:43 VanessaE hey RBA
16:43 Kacey i had a question
16:43 RealBadAngel nut not anymore?
16:43 RealBadAngel *but
16:44 Kacey i can only see old crafting recipes on technic.kosyak.info when will you update it?
16:44 RealBadAngel i wish i could
16:45 RealBadAngel but the guy seems not to be around lately
16:45 Kacey and since technic is installed, UI would not register the crafting...
16:45 Kacey plus i dont want to go to UI
16:46 RealBadAngel ok ok, i will fix get recipes in core
16:47 RealBadAngel it is already on my list
16:47 Kacey lol seems a little extreme...
16:47 RealBadAngel not really
16:48 RealBadAngel by now it stops at the 1st found
16:48 Kacey aah
16:48 RealBadAngel i raised that once before but then darkrose said it was intentional
16:49 RealBadAngel but it clearly is a bug, not intentional behaviour
16:49 RealBadAngel or at least laziness
16:50 jin_xi its wisdom: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-07-24#i_2387116
16:52 RealBadAngel take a look at the code
16:52 RealBadAngel if (found) im done
16:53 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: its good that you choose to add a seed to treegen
16:53 markveidemanis hi
16:53 markveidemanis http://bpaste.net/show/nccIaT3s6E0FDJs1IEHy/
16:53 markveidemanis it wont work
16:53 RealBadAngel well, i was convinced to do so ;)
17:05 * Kacey has nothing to do
17:06 Kacey bye all bbl
17:14 Jordach kaeza, trying out your sprite editor
17:14 Jordach (which you mentioned)
17:14 kaeza it's pretty good indeed
17:15 kaeza the only thing is lack of more professional tools/filters, but it has at least blur, sharpen and a few more
17:16 Jordach kaeza, is there a ppa:
17:16 kaeza Jordach, I think it's on the 'buntu repos
17:16 kaeza sudo apt-get install aseprite
17:17 kaeza don't worry, it won't wipe your HDD this time. I promise :)
17:18 * kaeza has learned the lesson and won't post that joke again
17:18 Jordach E: Unable to locate package aseprite
17:18 kaeza hmm..
17:20 kaeza Jordach, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/quantal/games/getdeb/aseprite
17:26 Jordach not even useful
17:27 Jordach kaeza, simple is the best way
17:28 kaeza ?
17:33 kaeza Jordach, you don't like the program?
17:45 markveidemanis kaeza !!!
17:49 markveidemanis hi
17:49 jordan4ibanez ohai
17:49 markveidemanis help
17:50 markveidemanis http://bpaste.net/show/btY6v0YFCOuVGXBrRI4J/
17:50 markveidemanis if a button's variable is changed, it does not seem to change on the button
17:50 markveidemanis can u help?
17:50 Calinou u ⇒ you
17:51 markveidemanis i think he gets it...
17:52 jordan4ibanez Lol you should be in #minecraft
17:52 jordan4ibanez now go along, scamper on
17:53 markveidemanis do U do Python
17:53 Jordach kaeza, its the install thats a bitch
17:53 jordan4ibanez I do, but I have no idea what you need help with
17:53 kaeza markveidemanis, changing a variable holding a reference to a widget does not actually change the widget unless you remove the old one and add this new one
17:54 markveidemanis and how do i do that
17:54 kaeza read the docs :)
17:54 kaeza !g tkinter manual
17:54 MinetestBot kaeza: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TkInter
18:00 OldCoder RealBadAngel, yes
18:00 markveidemanis HI OldCoder
18:00 VanessaE zzzz
18:01 VanessaE *snork*...zzz...mmmph.....huh? wha? zzz
18:02 Jordach kaeza, how do you install liballegro4.4
18:03 kaeza Jordach, dunno, I compiled Allegro from sources
18:03 kaeza http://alleg.sourceforge.net
18:12 Jordach kaeza, docs are RATHER USEFUL
18:13 rubenwardy is this type of rendering called Orthogonal?
18:13 rubenwardy http://minetest.web1337.net/map.php
18:14 VanessaE isometric
18:14 kaeza rubenwardy, orthogonal is when you have no depth correction, or whatever that was called
18:14 VanessaE how do I get that kind of projection?
18:14 VanessaE I love that mapper
18:14 rubenwardy ah, that is what i need
18:15 rubenwardy https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
18:15 rubenwardy ^ VanessaE
18:16 VanessaE cool
18:16 kaeza xyzz == thexyz?
18:16 VanessaE yep
18:17 markveidemanis minetestmapper...
18:17 kaeza I get confused when people do not use the same nick everywhere...
18:17 markveidemanis what if we could see players in real time?
18:18 rubenwardy widthOfViewVolumn?
18:22 kaeza kaeza, docs are RATHER USEFUL
18:22 kaeza ?
18:22 Jordach they do nothing
18:27 Jordach kaeza, packages.debian.org FTW
18:29 kaeza wget -q -O - http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb-archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
18:29 kaeza sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu quantal-getdeb games" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list'
18:29 kaeza Jordach, ^
18:29 kaeza then sudo apt-get install aseprite
18:29 Jordach kaeza, it never worked
18:30 kaeza hrm... maybe using a diff version than 'quantal'?
18:30 VanessaE quantal is evil.
18:30 VanessaE :)
18:30 VanessaE use precise.
18:30 kaeza IKR :)
18:30 Jordach kaeza, ubuntu 12.04
18:31 kaeza Jordach, then change 'quantal' to 'precise'
18:33 kaeza erm... where should I start? http://pastebin.com/GGeWRVKr
18:33 Jordach kaeza, im still waiting for the button that say: I know the consequences, I just don't give a fuck
18:33 thexyz onomatopoeia is broken and I don't know why
18:33 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia/tree/stupid_v2
18:34 jordan4ibanez That name sounds so amazing
18:35 thexyz because it is!
18:35 Jordach kaeza, i cant scale the window in sfce
18:35 Jordach xfce*
18:35 kaeza weird
18:36 kaeza I'm using xfce and it works fine
18:36 jordan4ibanez http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7KBxxX3R
18:36 jordan4ibanez What could be wrong?
18:36 kaeza no idea about AS
18:37 Jordach Kokorobet
18:37 Jordach oops
18:37 jordan4ibanez This is like backwards land, compiled fine in windows and now in linux it's a pain in the arse
18:37 Jordach kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/ET2zbOb.png
18:37 jordan4ibanez ooo a sound volume slider
18:39 jordan4ibanez there's flickering on the left side of the renderscreen though
18:39 kaeza Jordach, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-03-02%2016%3A37%3A21.png
18:40 kaeza oh, you are using 0.9.5
18:40 kaeza maybe there is a problem in that one...?
18:40 markveidemanis how do i install aseprite?
18:48 Jordach kaeza, what version are you currently running?
18:48 kaeza 0.9.2
18:48 kaeza updated just now to 0.9.5
18:49 jordan4ibanez what are you guys even talking about?
18:49 kaeza jordan4ibanez, Minetest
18:49 kaeza
18:49 jordan4ibanez Snap
18:50 jordan4ibanez oh my god
18:50 jordan4ibanez I just fixed the ror build error
18:56 VanessaE by changing it to a rol? ;)
18:57 VanessaE (sorry, old joke. to me "ror" = "rotate right")
19:01 kaeza your joke is bad, and you should feel bad >8(
19:03 Vadtec VanessaE: thats old school programmer humor there...
19:03 Vadtec lol
19:03 VanessaE :P
19:04 RealBadAngel just shift it
19:04 RealBadAngel ror
19:04 VanessaE fine, and you can just handle the damn carry yourself ;)
19:07 Jordach kaeza, fixed it
19:07 kaeza Jordach, good :) care to share the fix?
19:08 * Jordach warms up the cromer
19:08 kaeza anyway, what do you think of it?
19:08 Jordach kaeza, its the one before latest latest
19:08 Jordach http://www.tootips.com/2013/02/aseprite-pixel-art-and-animated-sprites.html
19:10 artur99 how to make a table?
19:12 kaeza artur99, ?
19:12 artur99 in the game
19:12 kaeza 3dforniture
19:13 kaeza W=wood,anyway, gonna take a quick(ish) nap
19:13 kaeza whoops
19:13 kaeza W=wood,S=stick
19:13 kaeza WWW
19:13 kaeza S-S
19:16 thexyz http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-2013.03.02-3823878305.zip
19:16 thexyz i guess this one is very similar to what we'll see as 0.4.5
19:16 thexyz so test & have fun
19:20 jordan4ibanez I just got banned from minecraft for posting this http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/scopes_packagers/quantal/main/base/unity-lens-minecraft O.o
19:22 jordan4ibanez I think they over reacted to the maximum :D
19:26 jordan4ibanez I just drank a monster so I am full of energy, here is my first idea: Someone should create a build bot using a chron job, which builds the daily unstables from github twice a day, packa
19:27 jordan4ibanez ges them into a deb or the aur or whatever, and uploads them to the repo.
19:27 VanessaE isn't that what the nightly builds ppa is for? :)
19:28 thexyz i guess that *someone* has a lot of free time
19:29 jordan4ibanez Yes, yes they do, but how would I upload them with a script?
19:29 thexyz also
19:29 thexyz you don't understand how aur works
19:29 thexyz we just need to create minetest-git
19:30 jordan4ibanez You're right!
19:30 thexyz and then you can update it daily
19:30 jordan4ibanez okay
19:30 thexyz https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52717
19:30 thexyz this one already exists
19:30 jordan4ibanez https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds not so nightly builds
19:30 thexyz probably should email maintainer
19:30 thexyz as minetest has moved to minetest/minetest
19:30 thexyz Kray: ^
19:31 Kray wat
19:31 jordan4ibanez y u no update your aur? :o
19:31 thexyz Kray: minetest has moved to minetest/minetest & minetest/minetest_game
19:31 thexyz update aur PKGBUILD plz, thx
19:43 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/NodeBoxEditor_Scrn.png
19:44 hmmmm blurring out code? really?
19:44 blaze lol
19:44 hmmmm good thing you did otherwise people would steal your work and sell it for immense profit
19:44 jin_xi or be offended?
19:45 rubenwardy it is just an effect
19:45 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator
19:46 hmmmm ah
19:46 hmmmm sorry then
19:48 rubenwardy it does not work yet
19:48 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
19:49 STHGOM brb
19:55 Kray https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/minetest/ someone check this package is now correct
19:55 Kray next I'll do the -git package
19:59 jordan4ibanez steam and tf2 on linux mint, now this is like luxury in the linux world
20:00 jordan4ibanez omg http://www.cafepress.com/sk/minetest
20:03 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Add one more curl_easy_setopt(curl, CURLOPT_NOSIGNAL, 1); 5917e86297 2013-03-02T12:02:00-08:00 http://git.io/uC-pRQ
20:05 jordan4ibanez is there a possibility that someone can make a language change option in the settings menu?
20:08 thexyz no
20:09 jordan4ibanez poop
20:10 thexyz rubenwardy: fix your indentation
20:10 rubenwardy ??
20:10 thexyz https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/blob/master/cEditor.cpp#L68
20:10 thexyz https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/blob/master/cNodes.cpp#L21
20:11 thexyz some other places too
20:13 Kray thexyz: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/minetest-git/ test that this is ok now
20:14 Kray hmm, I could probably update the website infos
20:16 Kray ...and I apparently didn't use the xdg-icon-resource correctly
20:19 jojoa1997 Can anyone tell me what is am doing wrong http://pastebin.com/AFLJaPq3
20:20 PilzAdam jojoa1997, look at the default mod
20:21 jojoa1997 look at what?
20:21 jojoa1997 i know how to register tools
20:21 rubenwardy do you?
20:21 jojoa1997 i just want to make life easier later on
20:22 rubenwardy http://dev.minetest.net/register_tool
20:22 PilzAdam rubenwardy, dont feet this troll
20:22 rubenwardy what the hell is minetest.register_tool(name, desc, inv_img, mdrop, crack1,...
20:22 rubenwardy yeah, ok
20:23 jojoa1997 im not a toll
20:24 rubenwardy no, but you are a troll
20:24 jojoa1997 i am trying to do this with tools https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/init.lua#L459
20:24 jojoa1997 kaeza said it was possible so i tried
20:25 jojoa1997 is it possible/
20:25 jojoa1997 ?
20:26 PilzAdam jojoa1997, look at mods that register tool, e.g. the default mod
20:26 PilzAdam (found in minetest_game/mods/default/init.lua)
20:27 jojoa1997 i have been using the default
20:27 jojoa1997 but i want to do it like https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/init.lua#L459 so i can make alot more easily
20:29 rubenwardy you need to register a function
20:29 jojoa1997 thank you
20:30 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/TvTPn5r9
20:30 rubenwardy ^ untested
20:30 rubenwardy woops
20:30 rubenwardy add "end" before register_tool2("megatools:shax_wood....
20:31 jojoa1997 i will
20:31 thexyz Kray: I don't have arch
20:31 jojoa1997 what about the none part
20:31 Kray ok
20:31 thexyz but it seems ok
20:31 thexyz thanks
20:31 rubenwardy replace it with NIL]
20:31 rubenwardy * NIL
20:32 jojoa1997 local n/a = NIL
20:32 rubenwardy Nil is null
20:32 jojoa1997 i know
20:34 jordan4ibanez I just realized in c55's last post " and we (me and xyz)" should be " and we (xyz and I)" :L
20:34 NekoGloop|Laptop shove it jordan
20:35 jordan4ibanez shove it where?
20:36 jordan4ibanez And what am I shoving?!
20:48 rubenwardy bye all
20:51 jordan4ibanez I just realized one of my friends smashed an apple 2
21:23 STHGOM bye
21:34 jojoa1997 where can i find registered groups like "group:wood"
21:35 jojoa1997 oops i am looking in minimal
21:37 NekoGloop|Laptop Also you can use any groups you want
21:37 NekoGloop|Laptop shit=1337 is a valid group
21:38 jojoa1997 i know but i am making recipes
21:39 jojoa1997 for inside recipes
21:39 jojoa1997 could i do this
21:39 jojoa1997 {'group:stone=1', 'group:stone=2', ''group:stone=1'}
21:40 PilzAdam no
21:40 jojoa1997 ok
21:40 jojoa1997 also
21:41 jojoa1997 for shapeless recipes could i do this 'megatools:ring_wood 2',
21:41 jojoa1997 and have the recipe need 2 wood rings
21:47 jojoa1997 is there anything that uses a steel group?
21:48 jojoa1997 i am making a steel ring recipe and of course i will use steel ingot but i dont know what else to use
21:48 Uberi not in default, at least
21:49 jojoa1997 should i use mese in it?
21:53 Uberi it depends, I would add one in the middle myself
22:04 jojoa1997 back
22:04 jojoa1997 almost done with my mod being ready to test
22:17 harrison it must be that by using higher level languages because C is ugly coders simply do not have the design space available to them to create the intricate faberge eggs of code that flow ceaselessly from my fevered brain
22:17 Uberi design space?
23:32 anunakki OldCoder, been a while :)
23:36 OWNSyouAll I'm trying to make a liquid and the source block looks great but the flowing blocks are all purple any ideas what causes that?
23:37 Uberi purple?
23:37 Uberi do you have a screenshot by any chance?
23:38 OWNSyouAll Uberi: http://imgur.com/Gaj1Kcw
23:39 Uberi what is your flowing texture?
23:39 OWNSyouAll ah woops
23:39 OWNSyouAll i meant the pink
23:39 OWNSyouAll it looked like purple when it was dark
23:40 * VanessaE peeks in
23:40 OWNSyouAll my flowing texture is the same texture as the source blocks
23:40 OWNSyouAll the blue one on the right and the red one on the left
23:42 Uberi hey VanessaE
23:42 VanessaE hey hey
23:42 Uberi OWNSyouAll: is your code available somewhere?
23:43 OWNSyouAll Uberi: https://github.com/KristopherKram/kram_kraft
23:43 OWNSyouAll not sure if that code is the latest ill check
23:44 OWNSyouAll Uberi: k it should all be there now
23:45 Uberi lava?
23:45 OWNSyouAll Uberi: https://github.com/KristopherKram/kram_kraft/blob/master/kram_kraft/mods/kram_kraft/nodes/mapgen_nodes.lua
23:45 Uberi yes, I know
23:45 OWNSyouAll textures are here https://github.com/KristopherKram/kram_kraft/tree/master/kram_kraft/mods/kram_kraft/textures
23:45 Uberi I am wondering if the liquid is lava?
23:46 Uberi or water
23:46 OWNSyouAll well the screenshot had both of them there
23:46 Uberi oh yeah, didn't notice the water :P
23:46 OWNSyouAll they both flow off the source block as pink though
23:46 Uberi guess it's lava then
23:50 Uberi OWNSyouAll: the only thing I can think of is that you might be missing some obscure property that normal water has
23:50 Uberi like here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1043
23:53 OWNSyouAll everytime i reload the game they are a diffrent color
23:53 OWNSyouAll da hell is going on
23:54 PilzAdam byw
23:54 PilzAdam *bye
23:55 OldCoder Hi
23:55 OldCoder anunakki, yes
23:56 OWNSyouAll ah figured it out
23:56 OWNSyouAll you need special_tiles = {
23:56 OWNSyouAll {name="default_water.png", backface_culling=false},
23:56 OWNSyouAll {name="default_water.png", backface_culling=true},
23:56 OWNSyouAll },
23:56 OWNSyouAll or else flowing water will change colors randomly for no reason
23:58 Uberi oops
23:58 OWNSyouAll Uberi has left the room (Quit: Excess Flood).
23:58 OWNSyouAll your a bad man
23:58 Uberi copied the text instead of the pastebin link :P