Time Nick Message 00:02 kaeza Kacey, the lump->dust->ingot is not a quirk of technic; It's how it's designed. 00:03 Kacey the quirk is doubling your output 00:03 kaeza yeah, but you have to invest some time in getting a grinder and power first 00:04 kaeza so it's a reward in itself 00:04 Kacey true 00:05 kaeza also, finding diamonds is not easy at the start of the game 00:05 Kacey at the start 00:05 kaeza you need diamonds to create basic power sources 00:06 kaeza Diamonds start to appear at -300 or so 00:07 Exio -500 or -512 by default, if i recall correctly 00:07 kaeza hmm 00:07 kaeza you may be right :) 00:07 Exio wait, the diamonds "standalone" 00:07 Exio or does technic has some weird-diamonds in it? 00:07 kaeza I mean technic diamonds, ofc 00:07 Exio hm 00:08 Exio not sure then 00:08 Kacey -450 or so 00:08 kaeza you also need mithril if you want to make solar panels 00:09 kaeza and that does not appear in large quantities until -600 or so 00:09 Kacey unless you are me 00:10 kaeza err...I mean it's hard without noclip, fast and fly 00:10 kaeza and ofc without /giveme or creative 00:11 Kacey nope 00:11 Kacey i find huge veins of mithril 00:11 kaeza hmm... looks like it's time to update moreores :P 00:12 kaeza my copy is from a year ago 00:12 Exio suddenly, mt crashes and corrupts the maps 00:12 VanessaE and moreblocks if you haven't already 00:12 kaeza I installed mb for the first time a week ago :P 00:12 Kacey lol i have found GIANT veins of stuff on Menche's server 00:13 VanessaE kaeza: it just got updated a few days ago - you're already out of date ;) 00:13 VanessaE (get it from calinou's git repo) 00:13 kaeza gawd, in the time it takes to DL a mod, two newer versions are already out :O 00:15 VanessaE like I said, pull from his repo 00:15 VanessaE then you can just git pull every so often 00:15 VanessaE takes like 10 seconds to get an update :) 00:16 kaeza Exio, loading an old 0.3.1 world in 0.4.4: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_444767519.jpg 00:19 Exio changes in the mapgen? :P 00:22 kaeza yup :) 00:28 Kacey i have a music player ^_^ 00:31 kaeza VanessaE, could you please close this when you have the time? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73190#p73190 00:31 kaeza thanks :) 00:32 VanessaE closed. 00:33 kaeza thanks again ^_^ 00:34 VanessaE np 00:35 kaeza hmm... need to change my signature... too much (useless) stuff added lately 00:35 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaG1kZQ/screenshot_593468427.png my technic setup 00:36 kaeza lol 00:36 kaeza I have 15 of each of these in my basement 00:36 VanessaE jeez 00:36 kaeza :P 00:36 Kacey lol 00:37 kaeza plus 5 chests totally full of cobble 00:37 kaeza I was bored :| 00:37 Kacey lol 00:38 kaeza Mining Laser Mk1, I LOVE YOU <3 00:39 Kacey lol 00:39 kaeza Kacey, wanna see a nice trick? 00:39 Kacey what? 00:39 kaeza enable item_drop in technic 00:40 Kacey done 00:40 Kacey item_drop or item_pickup? 00:40 kaeza now start, and place a cobble/other node 00:40 kaeza _drop 00:40 Kacey k 00:40 kaeza or both if you want 00:40 jfu ok, that griefer is back on menches server again. 00:41 Kacey hang on jfu i will come investigate 00:41 Kacey kaeza, continue 00:41 kaeza place a mesecons button or lever in the side of the node 00:41 khonkhortisan Remind me, does facedir start from one? 00:42 kaeza ok? 00:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yes 00:42 jfu kaeza: as you can tell =) 00:42 khonkhortisan okay thanks 00:43 kaeza now place a wire on the other side of the node (opposite to the button) 00:43 kaeza to make a "receiver"/whatever 00:44 kaeza Kacey, did it? 00:44 khonkhortisan If you place the button on glass, you'll be able to see the mesecon connect through it. 00:44 Kacey ill do it later but keep going 00:44 kaeza yep 00:44 Exio Posts: 600 00:44 kaeza you should get a mesecons wire bach from item_drop 00:44 Exio kaeza: so 1337 00:45 Kacey how does that work? 00:45 kaeza dunno, but is a bug 00:45 kaeza now you dig the receiver and get another wire 00:46 kaeza placce another wire and repeat for infinite wires 00:46 kaeza -z 00:46 kaeza -c 00:46 kaeza * 00:46 kaeza Exio, OMG! And VanessaE closed the topic!! I cannot celebrate :( 00:47 VanessaE yeah, you asked me to :) 00:47 Exio poor kaeza :P 00:47 kaeza bummer :( 00:47 jfu Kacey: thank you! 00:48 kaeza nah J/K 00:49 kaeza I'll make a big ascii art of VanessaE's mansion when I get my 1337th post :D 00:49 kaeza ...here >:D 00:51 Exio suddenly, kaeza banned >:) 00:53 VanessaE heh 00:54 jfu is there a command to list people that are online at the same server? like /list or something? 00:54 VanessaE /status 00:54 jfu ok 00:54 jfu thx 00:55 VanessaE np 00:55 VanessaE has anyone ever noticed how 90% of the time, Taoki becomes Taoki|away without ever actually *saying* anything? :) 00:55 Kacey lol 00:55 Exio s/90/99.99/ 00:55 VanessaE heh 00:55 hmmmm perhaps he has it on a timer? 00:55 Taoki|away Triggered when I go to sleep, happens on all servers ;) 00:56 VanessaE hmmmm: she. 00:56 hmmmm she?! 00:56 hmmmm why are there so many females 00:56 VanessaE there. see? 00:56 VanessaE :) 00:56 Taoki|away Clarification: She online 00:56 hmmmm and nevermind that, how do we know taoki is really a girl 00:56 hmmmm you know the saying about irc and women 00:56 Taoki|away Well, "really" is a confusing term :P 00:56 hmmmm woah 00:56 VanessaE hah 00:56 hmmmm i did not see you there 00:56 hmmmm crap 00:56 * hmmmm goes away 00:56 Exio i'm walking away 00:56 VanessaE hmmmm: clean yer glasses :D 00:57 Taoki|away xD 00:57 Exio er, i got ninja'd by hmmmm 00:58 Taoki|away Curses! My dark secrets are getting uncovered :P (nah, j/k) 00:58 VanessaE haha 00:58 Taoki|away But yeah, IRL I'm a guy I guess... I still like being called a she just because I do 00:58 Taoki|away It's the internet after all 00:58 VanessaE interesting. 00:58 Taoki|away But I need to go now, later. Later 00:59 hmmmm hahaha.. he does that thing that some WoW players do and pose as a girl online in order to get free items 00:59 hmmmm i bet taoki plays WoW 00:59 VanessaE *shakes head* 00:59 Taoki|away Pose means pretending you're one, but I just said I'm a guy IRL. And no, don't play WoW... commercial games aren't my thing 00:59 VanessaE now I have to wonder about sokomine :) 01:01 Taoki|away Wellm dunno about her, never saw a video stream or anything. Doesn't matter to me online really, generally speaking 01:03 VanessaE http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/02/28/1615207/intercontinental-mind-meld-unites-two-rats 01:03 VanessaE O.O 01:03 MinetestBot VanessaE: What are you wondering about? 01:04 VanessaE "from the my-squeeks-to-your-squeeks dept." 01:04 VanessaE sfan5|OFF: PLEASE turn that crap off :( 01:06 VanessaE hey sdzen. 01:06 sdzen hello 01:06 MinetestBot hi sdzen 01:07 * kaeza puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 01:07 MinetestBot kaeza: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens 01:07 kaeza lol 01:07 sdzen MinetestBot 01:07 Exio hahaha 01:07 VanessaE sfan5|OFF: turn it off, or I will. 01:07 sdzen i suppose his nick says off for a reason VanessaE 01:07 VanessaE yeah yeah 01:08 VanessaE just being a little bitchy tonight. 01:08 kaeza tonight? :P 01:08 * kaeza hides 01:09 * kaeza feels as the banhammer is going to strike again 01:09 VanessaE naw, I ain't gonna ban it. 01:09 VanessaE I 01:09 VanessaE I'll just +q it 01:11 Kacey /mode +q MinetestBot 01:12 kaeza I wonder if you know who has discovered the "hi" feature... 01:12 kaeza I surely hope not :| 01:12 VanessaE well it's irritating 01:13 VanessaE a bot that says hi to everyone is not useful 01:13 VanessaE (those commit messages, on the other hand, are useful) 01:13 * Kacey wants a @ 01:13 * VanessaE hands Kacey an @. 01:13 Kacey ... lol 01:13 kaeza on another channel I frequent, there's a bot that analyzes user's messages and remembers them 01:14 kaeza every once in a while it spits out a made up sentece 01:14 VanessaE kaeza: one of the channels I used to be on has one of those 01:14 VanessaE but it's usually used as more of a funny quotes/log bot 01:14 kaeza yep 01:14 Exio i have a bot what uses markov 01:15 VanessaE and some nitwit on slashdot has been running such a thing for a while 01:15 Exio it should be called "trolololololbot" 01:15 Exio more than bot alone 01:15 kaeza this particular bot has usually...catastrophic results 01:15 VanessaE nearly every thread has at least one post with one or two pseudo-sentences that ALMOST make sense 01:15 MiJyn hi minetestbot 01:15 MinetestBot Hi MiJyn 01:15 MiJyn :P 01:15 MiJyn sorry, just had to xD 01:16 kaeza should I eat you? 01:16 MinetestBot kaeza: You decide 01:16 MiJyn O.O 01:16 MinetestBot MiJyn: What are you wondering about? 01:16 VanessaE should I kick you? 01:16 VanessaE :) 01:16 Exio poor MinetestBot 01:16 MiJyn should I quiet you? 01:16 MiJyn Exio, I feel for him too :) 01:17 kaeza the good thing is that the bot I'm talking about autokicks any user who uses bad language 01:17 Kacey afk 01:17 VanessaE kaeza: which I object to quite strenuously. 01:18 VanessaE by G*d if someone wants to launch into a tirade of colorful expletives, let 'em 01:18 jfu it depends on the definition of bad 01:18 VanessaE no virgin ears/eyes here 01:18 kaeza jfu, something that starts with "F" and ends in "UCK" for example :) 01:19 Exio fak 01:19 kaeza FIRETRUCK :D 01:19 VanessaE fuckity fuck. 01:19 VanessaE :) 01:19 Exio >:D avoided 01:19 Exio lol kaeza 01:19 sdzen frell this dren! 01:19 jfu kaeza: haha =) nice one 01:20 Exio kaeza's brain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw 01:21 kaeza Exio, while we're at it, also this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 01:21 jfu anyone seen Louie CKs rant about using the term "the f-word" or the "c-word" etc? i think it is spot on. 01:22 VanessaE Louie CK? blah. George Carlin was the master of such rants :) 01:22 Exio kaeza: xD 01:22 kaeza lol 01:23 kaeza you, sir, have been justly rickrolled XD 01:23 jfu yeah Carling had the topic "the 7 words you can not use in tv" rant. that was good 01:23 jfu or was it 5? 01:23 jfu anyway 01:25 jfu *Carlin 01:25 jfu i always add g to words that ends in -in =) 01:25 VanessaE it was 7 words. 01:26 jfu ah nice 01:26 kaeza hmm... Is that patch that allows per-coboid texturing in nodeboxes in master? 01:26 VanessaE and whoever it was who did the recording "The Usage of Fuck" 01:26 VanessaE (usually attributed to Carlin, but it wasn't him) 01:26 kaeza cuboid* 01:27 VanessaE kaeza: coming soon 01:27 VanessaE RBA's working on that 01:27 kaeza ah good :) 01:28 VanessaE it's almost a side-effect of the "6d" rotation code, which requires getting rid of the now useless texture atlas 01:28 VanessaE by doing one, he can do the other very easily, he's said 01:28 VanessaE RealBadAngel: *ping* 01:28 kaeza also, I now want to get me some of those "3D glasses" 01:29 kaeza to *actually* try the anaglyph thing 01:29 VanessaE I have a pair 01:29 VanessaE but I'm partial to polarized 3d ("RealD" or whatever it is) 01:29 VanessaE my eyes don't work so well with anaglyphs 01:30 kaeza I used to make them with colored cellophane when I was little 01:30 kaeza hmm... polarized 3d? 01:30 kaeza to wikipedia! 01:31 VanessaE two lenses, one per eye, with different polarizations made to match that which is being shown to you 01:31 VanessaE (e.g. via a projector, special TV/monitor, etc) 01:32 kaeza I've seen a guy make that with a laptop screen 01:32 kaeza by removing the polarized film and adding it to his glasses 01:33 kaeza well... maybe that was a different thing 01:33 VanessaE ew 01:33 VanessaE anaglyph mode is busted 01:33 VanessaE shit flickers all over the place 01:33 khonkhortisan sounds like something I'd want to fix 01:33 VanessaE yes 01:33 VanessaE and the red tint is wrong 01:34 Kacey ? 01:34 VanessaE er, the blue one is 01:34 khonkhortisan you have to add in the third color into the color of one eye 01:34 VanessaE at least for my glasses. 01:34 khonkhortisan blue instead of cyan? 01:34 Kacey anaglyph mode? 01:34 VanessaE Kacey: yeah 01:34 kaeza Kacey, what you commonly call "3D" in films 01:34 Kacey how do i activate it? 01:34 VanessaE anaglyph = true 01:34 khonkhortisan ^ 01:34 VanessaE anaglyph_strength = 0.02 01:35 VanessaE in minetest.conf 01:35 Kacey nvm then 01:35 VanessaE but there's no way to tune the colors 01:35 sdzen haha that only means that we need more settings for the different shades of 3d glasses 01:35 VanessaE so useless to me :-/ 01:35 sdzen :) 01:35 khonkhortisan no color tuning is common in 2/2 games 01:35 Kacey dont like tampering with my .conf 01:35 khonkhortisan really? 01:36 kaeza Kacey, then you are missing the finite liquids too :P 01:36 Kacey nope 01:36 kaeza It's way more realistic 01:36 * Kacey doesnt like finite anything 01:36 khonkhortisan finite liquids are merged? 01:36 sdzen yes 01:36 Kacey i cant make infinite lava/ water 01:36 sdzen very very cool 01:36 khonkhortisan use pipeworks for infinity, no? 01:37 kaeza I like how you can now fill caves entirely 01:37 kaeza instead of just leaving a waterfall 01:37 khonkhortisan plumb your showerhead to the ocean 01:37 Kacey dinner 01:37 khonkhortisan or plumb the shower to itself, with a water tank in between 01:37 VanessaE horrible fps too in anaglyph mode 01:38 kaeza VanessaE, 10 FPS in mine :( 01:38 khonkhortisan well yes, it's doing around twice the work 01:38 VanessaE kaeza: and stuff flickering all over the place? 01:38 kaeza dunno, I just see two images superimposed :P 01:38 kaeza but no flickering 01:39 khonkhortisan I don't have the glasses, I cross my eyes to see 3d 01:39 khonkhortisan there's a youtube mode for that 01:40 VanessaE I wonder if crossed-eye 3d is doable in MT 01:40 khonkhortisan I tried to add it to bzflag, but the font system messed up 01:41 khonkhortisan went past the edge of the screen because it's based on height I htink 01:41 Exio https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zLcujTQnHtc/TxWW-Il9SUI/AAAAAAAAAKA/ZQvqVKU1tpY/s2000/terence.parr.png 01:42 khonkhortisan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZQr-0fSsk 3D -> Change viewing method... -> Side by side. Then wait for the words to go away. 01:42 VanessaE heh 01:42 khonkhortisan it also matters how far your head is from the screen 01:45 khonkhortisan You must add anaglyph_strength or it'll remove anaglyph from the .conf 01:46 khonkhortisan anaglyph makes fov more obvious 01:46 khonkhortisan VanessaE, flickering meaning moire patterns? 01:46 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, objects on the screen flashing and blinking, especially transparent objects e.g. windows, leaves 01:47 jfu it sort of works, but i feel like an idiot 01:47 khonkhortisan jfu, the video or minetest? 01:47 jfu can I say both? no i ment the video 01:48 jfu oh wait... i chose cross-eyed haha 01:48 khonkhortisan I warn you, there's a rail ride video with the dimensions all off. It hurts to watch. 01:49 jfu the side by side was better but that was also weird... really cool vide though 01:50 khonkhortisan this one might be easier to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=x7TLDvl24Zk 01:51 khonkhortisan leaves are fine for me 01:51 Vadtec sup peeps 01:51 khonkhortisan 3D! | 3D! 01:52 khonkhortisan lol I can actually focus on that if I put my head way forward 01:53 kaeza VanessaE, I find it strange that there's no fire texture in your HDX pack... 01:53 VanessaE I've been too lazy to make a good animated fire :-) 01:53 kaeza heh 01:53 VanessaE unless you know of a really nice free one :D 01:54 kaeza hmm 01:54 khonkhortisan connect to a live feed of a fireplace for the texture 01:54 jfu i have like two of those Real3D glasses at home. but they wont work without some very expensive equipment... 01:54 VanessaE jfu: not really - any cheap projector will be fine. you just need polarized filters and an appropriate 3d splitter 01:55 VanessaE total expenditure depends on your setup; a good high def 3d projector can be had for around $1400 now. 01:55 khonkhortisan You can't tell for sure it's a polarized filter until you try it, it could just be tinted plastic 01:55 VanessaE hey neko. 01:55 khonkhortisan hello longname 01:55 kaeza ...sooo a simple paper sheet+celophane vs a special projector+filter+... 01:55 jfu VanessaE: that was interesting... gonna google it 01:56 RealBadAngel hello all 01:56 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 01:56 khonkhortisan RBA, I posted on your forum topic exactly what was wrong with the 6D facedir textures. 01:56 kaeza inb4 /mode +q MinetestBot 01:56 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 01:56 MinetestBot NekoGloop|Laptop: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens 01:57 khonkhortisan what I see: "kaeza: /mode +q MinetestBot ... MinetestBot: I don't want it" 01:57 kaeza lol 01:57 NekoGloop|Laptop Oh hey look, he's lying. 01:58 khonkhortisan why, 'cause it's you? 01:58 NekoGloop|Laptop Because i know you don't have anyone ignored. 01:58 khonkhortisan ? 01:59 khonkhortisan I forgot who ignored who. who ignored whom? whom ig... 02:00 kaeza wow I still have D******a's PMs ignored :P 02:01 kaeza gawd, I wonder how many times he PM'd 02:01 NekoGloop|Laptop who? 02:02 kaeza D******a 02:02 kaeza :) 02:02 NekoGloop|Laptop ... 02:02 VanessaE ? 02:02 khonkhortisan So either that's the actual name, or you just don't want to say 02:02 kaeza second one 02:02 NekoGloop|Laptop VanessaE: That one character sums up the channel. 02:02 VanessaE NekoGloop hahah 02:03 NekoGloop|Laptop "Minetest is developed by a random group of lunatics." 02:03 NekoGloop|Laptop Love it. 02:03 VanessaE yup 02:03 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: and you're among them now :D 02:03 NekoGloop|Laptop Nope. 02:04 khonkhortisan Do mods count? 02:04 NekoGloop|Laptop I ain't developed shit. 02:04 VanessaE yup, you contributed to the game, therefore you're a lunatic :D 02:04 VanessaE textures are as important as the code 02:04 kaeza NekoGloop|Laptop, IIRC, you pushed new textures :D 02:04 khonkhortisan shit 2.0 is much better 02:04 kaeza ah ninja'd 02:04 khonkhortisan but nobody wants to update 02:04 VanessaE (unless you want everything to just be covered in 1's and 0's) 02:04 NekoGloop|Laptop Technically I didn't push it. 02:04 NekoGloop|Laptop :) 02:04 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, all rotations are made same way 0, -90, 180, 90 02:04 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/blob/master/src/mapnode.cpp#L150 02:05 khonkhortisan why 1's and 0's? Just go with the stuff from Matrix 02:05 khonkhortisan animated, of course 02:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I've always thought that was something of a plot hole - why would a computer choose to map everything to a bunch of weird glyphs when it already 'thinks' in binary anyway? 02:06 khonkhortisan that makes it worse if you're only rotating corners 02:06 RealBadAngel and rotating by 180 is not the same as flipping image 02:06 khonkhortisan encryption 02:06 khonkhortisan I think 02:06 khonkhortisan intense encryption 02:06 NekoGloop|Laptop ... 0.4.5? pl0x? 02:06 kaeza strong* 02:06 khonkhortisan or, compression 02:07 khonkhortisan strong compression then 02:07 VanessaE compression maybe, but if that were the case, why only a few dozen symbols? why not thousands? 02:07 NekoGloop|Laptop stronk* 02:07 khonkhortisan Flip X; Flip Y; Rotate 180° = original image 02:08 khonkhortisan it originated in the country that used those characters. I'm running out of reasons. 02:08 NekoGloop|Laptop That means we're winning, khon. 02:10 VanessaE I know of no country that uses mirrored images of japanese and latin text :) 02:10 VanessaE (except Russia does) 02:10 khonkhortisan they're mirrored? That's even worse 02:10 sdzen I smell unicode 02:10 khonkhortisan My improved facedirtools test node 02:10 sdzen :) 02:10 khonkhortisan http://postimage.org/image/i2uew8v2j/ 02:11 NekoGloop|Laptop I smell kittens... oh right. 02:11 khonkhortisan ^ was supposed to be on the same line 02:11 jfu VanessaE: isnt that cyrillic? (spelling?) 02:11 VanessaE jfu: yes (and yes) 02:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: suddenly, I have images of 4d rubik's cubes in my head 02:13 khonkhortisan interesting 02:14 khonkhortisan How many dimensions is your imagination using? 02:14 NekoGloop|Laptop NYANCATS. :3 02:14 VanessaE oh, 15 or so, why? 02:14 VanessaE ;) 02:14 khonkhortisan yep nyancats 02:14 khonkhortisan I can't go any higher than 4 02:14 NekoGloop|Laptop My mind thinks in all 11 dimensions 02:15 khonkhortisan I prefer to call time dimension zero 02:15 jfu im surprised there is no companion-cube in minetest, or a mario-question-mark one... 02:15 khonkhortisan I saw one 02:15 Kacey back 02:15 kaeza jfu, there are two companion cubes 02:15 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey! 02:15 kaeza dafuq? 02:15 Kacey ? 02:15 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4269 02:15 kaeza that is new :D 02:15 RealBadAngel can you upload somewhere the test node? 02:15 VanessaE jfu: there are at least two mods that add such 02:16 VanessaE gah, ninja'd again 02:16 khonkhortisan sure 02:16 VanessaE RealBadAngel: *poke* 02:16 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE 02:16 khonkhortisan aw, it's not a git repo 02:16 VanessaE RealBadAngel: care to expand on this: [02-28 20:29] it's almost a side-effect of the "6d" rotation code, which requires getting rid of the now useless texture atlas 02:16 VanessaE [02-28 20:29] by doing one, he can do the other very easily, he's said 02:16 RealBadAngel hold on i will create one 02:16 khonkhortisan I was going to go with a branch 02:16 kaeza SPAAAAAM 02:17 VanessaE kaeza: spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans, spam spam spam and spam. 02:17 kaeza hehe 02:17 VanessaE [vikings] 02:17 VanessaE SHUT UP! 02:17 RealBadAngel texturing each nodebox will be also possible 02:17 khonkhortisan I read right, I read left, and I read right and stopped at baked beans. 02:17 VanessaE baked beans are off. 02:17 VanessaE wait, what? ;) 02:17 khonkhortisan I read it thrice 02:18 khonkhortisan "read", not "read" 02:19 khonkhortisan !up https://github.com/RealBadAngel/facedirtools 02:19 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 02:21 khonkhortisan there it is 02:25 khonkhortisan I'm already where I can push to my repo, but I can't fork yours until it's not empty 02:25 khonkhortisan I think 02:26 * Kacey likes this music 02:26 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, uploaded 02:26 khonkhortisan now to figure out what to do if merge doesn't work 02:28 RealBadAngel btw, screwdriver mode 4 is fucked up 02:28 RealBadAngel it was made manually before 02:28 khonkhortisan I figured out 1 and 3 02:28 RealBadAngel but then i started to rotate nodeboxes 02:28 VanessaE and then everything went to shit 02:28 VanessaE :) 02:29 RealBadAngel then have to redefine the rotations table to follow the way nodeboxes are rotated 02:29 RealBadAngel core table is updated, mod's one is still old 02:30 RealBadAngel by now for testing use just mode 3 to reset rotation and set axisdir 02:30 RealBadAngel then mode 1 to rotate around axisdir only 02:31 khonkhortisan I didn't know 3 reset rotation 02:31 khonkhortisan I was doing three then one 02:31 RealBadAngel mode_text={ 02:31 RealBadAngel {"Change rotation, Don't change axisdir."}, 02:31 RealBadAngel {"Keep choosen face in front then rotate it."}, 02:31 RealBadAngel {"Change axis dir, Reset rotation."}, 02:31 RealBadAngel {"Bring top in front then rotate it."}, 02:31 khonkhortisan aah! How do I get it to forget I have to merge? 02:32 RealBadAngel also tool dumps value of facedir to console 02:32 RealBadAngel in format axisdir, rotation 02:33 jfu khonkhortisan: what do you want to do? i know git inside out. 02:33 khonkhortisan I'm trying to add a change I made to a mod before it became a git repo 02:34 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, you have push rights to facedirtools 02:34 khonkhortisan oh 02:34 khonkhortisan it ended up being three commits 02:35 Kacey rba, how do i get obsidian with Technic? 02:35 jfu khonkhortisan: do a git rebase master -i and squash them together 02:35 RealBadAngel it waits for code to spawn it 02:35 RealBadAngel i would like it to be found near lava lakes 02:35 khonkhortisan I was going to do a rebase-type thing 02:35 Kacey aah 02:36 Kacey how about water hitting a lava source 02:36 RealBadAngel havent found a reasonable way to do so yet 02:36 RealBadAngel maybe with new biomes it will be easier 02:36 khonkhortisan jfu, do I put my commit message there, or a single-letter command? 02:37 jfu khonkhortisan: if you do not supply the -m flag (for message), the default $EDITOR will open up and you can write the message there 02:38 jfu it will actually be two steps if you use the -i (or --interactive same thing). first it will show you which commits you are able to squash, and then in step two it will ask for the commit message 02:38 khonkhortisan no such branch: (my commit message) 02:38 khonkhortisan I'll just recheckout 02:38 jfu ah sorry... 02:38 jfu -m is for git commit only. 02:39 khonkhortisan I mean reclone 02:39 jfu ah ok 02:39 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, http://www.syntevo.com/smartgithg/index.html 02:39 RealBadAngel easy to use 02:41 khonkhortisan I got merge comments in my init.lua 02:43 jfu that is probably wrong 02:43 khonkhortisan huh. You removed the arrow texture from the init.lua 02:43 jfu you just want to add your commit on top, not merge 02:43 RealBadAngel forgot bout it 02:43 khonkhortisan I did my commit before forking, if that makes any sense 02:44 RealBadAngel it was replaced with some other texture for tests 02:44 jfu you said there was no repo before so how could you fork? 02:44 RealBadAngel just replace it with yours 02:45 khonkhortisan I think I have it right now 02:45 khonkhortisan I spammed the github page until it appeared, then when it did, I cloned an empty repo 02:46 khonkhortisan then git pull, merge conflict 02:46 jfu ah, you should have git pull --rebase to get your stuff on top without merging 02:46 khonkhortisan 403‽ 02:47 khonkhortisan error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing https://github.com/RealBadAngel/facedirtools/info/refs 02:48 khonkhortisan Now I'm lost. 02:48 VanessaE 404 for me. 02:48 RealBadAngel info? 02:48 RealBadAngel refs? 02:48 khonkhortisan I have my commit in the right place, origin is https://github.com/RealBadAngel/facedirtools, I do a git push with the correct password 02:49 RealBadAngel there are no such directories 02:49 khonkhortisan I think I need ssh 02:50 RealBadAngel use smartgit 02:50 RealBadAngel http://www.syntevo.com/smartgithg/index.html 02:50 RealBadAngel it has builtin ssh 02:51 khonkhortisan non-fast-forward commit? 02:51 khonkhortisan oh 02:51 * khonkhortisan is feeling slow 02:53 khonkhortisan And a quick rebase to remove the merge... 02:53 khonkhortisan this may take me a while 02:56 Kacey night all 02:56 khonkhortisan I lost track of how many times I committed, but I managed to push just one. 02:57 khonkhortisan even had the textures get added separately from the text 02:57 khonkhortisan RealBadAngel, it's in 03:00 * khonkhortisan downloads smartgit 03:01 MiJyn hi 03:01 MinetestBot hi MiJyn 03:01 MiJyn thanks minetestbot :) 03:01 MinetestBot MiJyn: Although i'm only a bot I appreciate your thanks. 03:01 khonkhortisan hi MiJyn 03:02 * NekoGloop|Laptop turns it up to 11 03:02 MiJyn thanks khonkhortisan :) 03:02 MiJyn I see @MinetestBot... 03:02 khonkhortisan Although I'm not a bot I'm not incapable of appreciating thanks. 03:03 MiJyn I see @khonkhortisan... 03:03 khonkhortisan what's the @for? 03:04 NekoGloop|Laptop gtfo twitter. 03:04 khonkhortisan +khonkhortisan 03:05 MiJyn $khonkhortisan, better? 03:05 khonkhortisan bash variable? 03:05 MiJyn delete($khonkhortisan); 03:05 MiJyn ah right 03:05 khonkhortisan eek! 03:06 MiJyn export khonkhortisan="" 03:06 MiJyn there 03:06 MiJyn :) 03:06 khonkhortisan I still exist, I'm just empty 03:06 MiJyn yes 03:06 MiJyn unset khonkhortisan 03:06 MiJyn there 03:08 MiJyn :P 03:09 khonkhortisan I checked "Non-commercial use only (all features, but no support)", but at the end of the setup it tells me "To request support or report a problem, use the items in the Help menu." 03:09 khonkhortisan And going , it remembers everything except my username 03:15 khonkhortisan woah smartgit finds people's pictures 03:16 MiJyn that's why it's called _smart_git :P 03:20 NekoGloop|Laptop :(){ :|:& };: 03:20 * NekoGloop|Laptop watches as the fork bomb explodes 03:20 khonkhortisan been there, done that 03:21 khonkhortisan I prefer :(){:|:&};: 03:21 NekoGloop|Laptop it's the same damn thing ain't it? 03:21 khonkhortisan I like it better without spaces 03:21 khonkhortisan forkbombs don't need to follow conventions 03:22 NekoGloop|Laptop %0|%0 Windows batch forkbomb 03:22 khonkhortisan I think perl has something similar 03:22 NekoGloop|Laptop perl -e "fork while fork" & 03:23 avi_ yes sh\&|sh 03:23 NekoGloop|Laptop I've made a few forkbombs in Game Maker on accident. 03:24 NekoGloop|Laptop Too many while-loops and repeat-loops can be deadly. 03:24 khonkhortisan by accident | sh&|sh makes a parent do all the forking 03:24 * khonkhortisan likes until loops and unless statements 03:30 MiJyn khonkhortisan, #define until(b) while(!(b)) 03:30 khonkhortisan #define unless(x) if(!(x)) 03:30 khonkhortisan I got blamed for the original problem when I half fixed it (in mesecons) 03:31 khonkhortisan that's the second time that's happened to me, must be common 06:37 MiJyn wow, silence in #minetest for 3 hours... *calls 911* 06:37 MiJyn wait, better idea! 06:37 MiJyn /ping `/names` 06:37 MiJyn :P 06:37 MiJyn THERE 06:38 MiJyn or: 06:38 MiJyn hi ..... 06:38 MiJyn xD 06:50 kaeza MiJyn, you should go to #winehq; literally ten words written in almost a day. 06:53 MiJyn kaeza, ah, I'll use my ... erm ... "treatment" on them :P 06:53 MiJyn (and see how fast they'll ban me :P) 06:53 kaeza hehe 06:53 MiJyn xD 06:53 MiJyn jk 06:57 kaeza hrm, got the Lava Suit working by getting wear on damage, instead of using separate energy cells, but now the rest of survival_modpack does not get updated... 07:02 kaeza got it 07:03 kaeza yay it's working perfectly 07:15 kaeza anyway, time to go. night everyone 07:16 VanessaE night 07:26 VanessaE think I'll do the same. 07:26 VanessaE night 08:29 thexyz hi 08:29 MinetestBot hi thexyz 08:30 thexyz you're annoying 08:30 thexyz die 08:59 Oblivion1500 lol, thexyz 12:39 ashurii Hey all, mind if I ask about creative commons? I am struggling to understand what can and cannot be done with someone else's work :/ 12:41 Infinity_69 hi 12:49 RealBadAngel hello all 12:50 ashurii john_minetest: Thanks :) I still don't quite understand : modify, remix or adapt. What are the limits? There are no explanations for idiots. Can I take ten random pixels from an image and construct something entirely different which doesn't resemble the original, so long as I give credit to my sources? 12:50 Infinity_69 hi rba 12:50 Infinity_69 hi john_minetest 12:52 RealBadAngel ashurii, here in minetest you can take anything you want and make with it anything you like 12:52 RealBadAngel but, its rude to claim its your own. just say thx to the original author in credits 12:53 Infinity_69 !g asdf 12:53 Infinity_69 ok :/ 12:54 ashurii Okay, wow the concept is lost on me.. is there that much flexibility? What if the end work looks nothing like the original. Suppose you took some eyes from a photo and graph them onto another image is that okay? Would you need to be specific about where the eyes came from? I think that is why I am confused. 12:54 RealBadAngel this is open source project 12:55 RealBadAngel most of the work is either wtfpl or creative commons 12:56 RealBadAngel which means we all coding the same thing, at some point one stopped other can continue 12:56 ashurii Okay, kewl :) How long as wtfpl been around? 12:58 RealBadAngel wtfpl means you dont even say thank you, but as i said 12:58 RealBadAngel it would be just rude 12:58 RealBadAngel *have 12:58 ashurii ah okay, fully in the public domain so to speak. 12:59 Infinity_69 http://greenopia.bugs3.com what do you guys think about the bg? 12:59 ashurii ah thanks :) 12:59 RealBadAngel take this way, if you are using some1's work and create something new based on it, just say thx 12:59 Infinity_69 its 2x2 pixels 12:59 RealBadAngel it will be enough 12:59 Infinity_69 :D 12:59 Infinity_69 RBA 12:59 Infinity_69 http://greenopia.bugs3.com what do you think about the bg? 13:00 RealBadAngel that is green? 13:00 RealBadAngel hehe 13:00 Infinity_69 kinda 13:00 Infinity_69 its 2by2 pixels 13:00 Infinity_69 like this: 13:00 Infinity_69 BG 13:00 Infinity_69 GB 13:00 Infinity_69 Green Black 13:00 Infinity_69 :D 13:00 Infinity_69 E-Z 13:00 Infinity_69 D: 13:00 RealBadAngel btw i got some news about UI, VanessaE made something 13:01 RealBadAngel lemme do a screenshot 13:01 Infinity_69 ok 13:03 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/cIpAx32.jpg 13:03 RealBadAngel new look of UI 13:04 Infinity_69 it has mods, eh? 13:04 Infinity_69 inventory+ 13:04 Infinity_69 bags 13:04 Infinity_69 and creative 13:04 Infinity_69 :D 13:04 Infinity_69 its just a new background eh? 13:04 Infinity_69 Cana-duh! 13:05 RealBadAngel UI is a rework of Cornernote's inventory+ 13:05 Infinity_69 ok... 13:05 RealBadAngel it has bags, settime, sethome etc 13:05 Infinity_69 isnt UI User Interface? 13:05 RealBadAngel Unified Inventory 13:05 Infinity_69 oh :D 13:05 Infinity_69 ok 13:06 RealBadAngel it replaces completely creative 13:06 RealBadAngel and also has crafting guide 13:06 RealBadAngel more things will come as soon as i finish API for it 13:09 Infinity_69 RBA, your making the API? 13:09 Infinity_69 make a code so that an image could be showed on the screen... 13:09 Infinity_69 like this: 13:09 Infinity_69 minetest.register_image({ 13:10 Infinity_69 :D 13:10 Infinity_69 display: ??? 13:10 Infinity_69 etc... 13:13 RealBadAngel you can show any image using formspecs 13:14 RealBadAngel http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2002272013%20-%2007:48:22%20PM.png 13:14 RealBadAngel VanessaE's own version of UI 13:15 Infinity_69 RBA, check my website again 13:15 Infinity_69 i changed the pixels 13:15 Infinity_69 2x2 to 8x8 13:15 Infinity_69 same pattern 13:15 RealBadAngel worse effect 13:15 Infinity_69 i know right xD 13:15 RealBadAngel before it was more readable 13:15 Infinity_69 yes... 13:17 Infinity_69 hey, suggest a background that would suit the website in both the X axis and Y axis 13:17 Infinity_69 :D 13:20 Infinity_69 got one 13:20 Infinity_69 check it out now 13:34 RealBadAngel this is way better 13:35 Infinity_69 i know 13:35 Infinity_69 im changing the domain of it.. 13:35 Infinity_69 greenopia was taken... 13:35 Infinity_69 so... 13:35 Infinity_69 Green Node 13:35 Infinity_69 :D 13:38 Infinity_69_ hi 13:38 Infinity_69_ i crashed 13:57 Kacey hi all 14:00 Infinity_69 hi 14:01 Infinity_69 i cant seem to get my website up :/ 14:01 Infinity_69 do you know any better website hosters than bugs3 and boxhost? 14:01 Infinity_69 i made a website in both, none work 14:02 Infinity_69 http://greennode.bugs3.com 14:02 Infinity_69 http://greennode.boxhost.me 14:11 Infinity_69 http://ompldr.org/vaG1qZg/2.jpg 14:11 Infinity_69 http://ompldr.org/vaG1qZQ/1.jpg 14:11 Infinity_69 realbadangel 14:15 RealBadAngel Infinity_69, talk to rubenwardy when he will be online 14:15 Infinity_69 ok :/ 14:22 RealBadAngel im not webdesigner. im low level coder 14:23 Infinity_69 oh :D 14:23 Infinity_69 me too...kinda... 14:25 Kacey low level? i think not rba 14:26 RealBadAngel low level means assembler, c++ 14:26 Kacey aah 14:27 RealBadAngel i used to be demoscene coder 14:27 RealBadAngel assembler only 14:36 Infinity_69_ bye 15:20 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on his damn internet connection 15:24 * john_minetest builds an internet connection with 10000000GB/s out of cat food. 15:50 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:51 ShadowNinja Hello! 15:52 ShadowNinja Issue 454 can be closed I think 15:54 PilzAdam thexyz, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73250#p73250 15:57 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, done 16:02 Jordach oh well, PC work up as expected 16:04 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73255#p73255 - 1 post guy pwning all. 16:04 * Calinou rolls eyes like a phoronix forums smiley 16:04 Calinou "hey, how about you fix catalyst. :rolleyes:" 16:08 TheChrispyLP hi 16:08 MinetestBot hi TheChrispyLP 16:11 troller PilzAdam, works, but missed some textures in inventory 16:12 Jordach hm? troller whats in the new stuff? 16:13 thexyz PilzAdam: http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/et/ 16:13 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Add Estonian language template 3823878305 2013-03-01T08:12:19-08:00 http://git.io/VWcRJg 16:14 thexyz fuck 16:14 thexyz sfan5: disable bot's "ai" 16:14 troller Jordach, im about PilzAdam's build 16:14 sfan5 thexyz: its not enabled 16:14 thexyz hi 16:14 MinetestBot hi thexyz 16:14 sfan5 oh 16:14 sfan5 !ar disable 16:14 MinetestBot AR disabled. 16:14 sfan5 you can do it yourself 16:14 sfan5 (if you need to) 16:16 Jordach UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTRE! I CHOOSE YOU! 16:21 celeron55 sfan5: you should probably completely remove it altogether, it's horrible and utterly useless 16:21 sfan5 ok 16:23 sfan5 done 16:23 Jordach "Twitter is over capacity." <- MY BIGGEST annoyance EVER. 16:24 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit 16:24 troller PilzAdam, but all ok on second run 16:25 * Jordach wants the OAuth key 16:34 lumerianking OldCoder, you around? 16:34 Jordach lumerianking, which server is this? 16:35 lumerianking ? 16:35 lumerianking freenode 16:35 lumerianking lol 16:35 lumerianking <- anunakki 16:35 Jordach OH 16:35 Jordach i was just thinking about him right this second actually. 16:35 lumerianking its been a while, was hoping he wasnt idle, but i'll have to catch him at another time when i get home from work 16:35 lumerianking are you guys still running the europe server from my vps? 16:36 Jordach lumerianking, feel free to stop by, i'll hand out a highlight when he's abouty 16:36 Jordach -y 16:36 lumerianking alright, i probably wont be idling, due to work etc.. but i'll be back in a few hours, just let him know that i'm anunakki lol, my client crashes when i try to connect as anunakki for some weird reason 16:39 Jordach i really should do more of these: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73271#p73271 16:39 VanessaE hi all. 16:41 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Dont place doors if node under it has on_rightclick 6c70e0295a 2013-03-01T08:40:26-08:00 http://git.io/CZX9Hg 16:41 rubenwardy hi all 16:42 Jordach hai rubenwardy 16:42 Jordach hai VanessaE 16:42 sfan5 hi rubenwardy 16:42 sfan5 hi VanessaE 16:42 VanessaE heh, good timing huh :) 16:43 * PilzAdam reads 2 forum posts by Jordach – all capslock 16:43 Jordach PilzAdam, why not? 16:43 Jordach you need to learn monotomy isnt good 16:43 PilzAdam you normally dont shout at people 16:44 Jordach monotony* 16:44 Calinou Jordach: GNOME users totally agree 16:44 Jordach Calinou, *high five* 16:44 Jordach or: it broke my workflow! 16:45 ShadowNinja repeat rightclick timer is slightly off, possibly due to new physics, it misses one every 15 nodes or so 16:46 PilzAdam not for me 16:46 PilzAdam (just tested) 16:46 PilzAdam have you changed the setting? 16:47 Jordach PilzAdam, better? 16:48 ShadowNinja no 16:48 ShadowNinja moving sideways 16:51 ShadowNinja actualy I was moving backwards and facing down 16:52 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, I tested moving sideways 16:52 ShadowNinja it took a lot longer sideways 16:55 VanessaE every so often it misses a block for me also, or did last time I did a long run 16:55 VanessaE about every 10 blocks, for me 16:55 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt -- changelog updated a bit 16:55 Jordach heh. 16:55 Jordach filing a bug 16:58 thexyz Calinou: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 16:58 thexyz can you contribute here? kthx 17:00 * Jordach spotted Calinou in QuakeNet's /list 17:07 Jordach1 my died 17:07 Jordach1 my pc* 17:08 VanessaE well fix it dammit :) 17:08 Jordach1 VanessaE, the PC's emerge thread went pissy 17:08 VanessaE you're not running latest? 17:09 VanessaE emergethread is less pissy now 17:10 Jordach there 17:10 VanessaE it still hangs up a little here and there but it's far more responsive than it used to be. 17:10 Calinou git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git && cd minetest/games && git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game && cd .. && cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 && cd src && make -j8 && cd ../bin && ./minetest 17:10 Calinou running this now :> 17:11 jin_xi is is possible to use a different key for down and use? using multitools and fly is really stupid like this... 17:13 VanessaE Calinou: please always include -DRUN_IN_PLACE= 17:13 VanessaE don't leave that out - for some people it causes weird installation issues 17:14 VanessaE jin_xi: turn off aux1 descends? 17:15 rubenwardy What would be the currect C++ type for a number variable with decimals and no signs? 17:15 Calinou VanessaE: works fine for me... it just puts user data in ~.minetest 17:15 rubenwardy unsigned float does not work 17:15 Calinou run in place is only useful for portable installs. 17:16 rubenwardy Calinou: I disagree 17:16 VanessaE Calinou: I know, but for some folks leaving that variable out (whether it's 1 or 0) causes weird install issues 17:16 VanessaE of course those people might just have been idiots too ;) 17:17 jin_xi VanessaE: thanks 17:18 VanessaE in a way I kinda wish the current defaults had always been there - I got so used to 'E' for descend that my fingers just refuse to work the shift key for that purpose :) 17:19 jin_xi pinky for down sucks, no matter what imo 17:19 jin_xi but i think there should be single seperate key for both use and down and none of that checkbox lets complect unrelated things stuff 17:19 VanessaE "C" might have made more sense than shift 17:20 jin_xi i mean not key but possibility to select which key 17:20 Calinou shift is a good sneak key 17:20 Calinou more and more games use it as default, including minecraft 17:20 VanessaE Calinou: for sneak yes, for descend? hard to use. 17:20 jin_xi yeah, but sneak has nothing to do with down 17:20 Calinou for descend it's nice too 17:20 Calinou it can be used as an universal key 17:20 * Calinou removed his 124,4MB debug.txt 17:21 VanessaE one's pinky doesn't have much strength compared to other fingers, which makes it hard to use shift for such things 17:21 VanessaE that's nothing - my rollback log is 1.3 GB 17:21 VanessaE (!) 17:21 VanessaE the fucking MAP FILE is smaller than that 17:22 thexyz Calinou: now symlink it to /dev/null 17:22 thexyz or, well, disable logging 17:22 ShadowNinja mine is 3x the size of the map 17:23 VanessaE my map is only about 230 MB 17:23 VanessaE rollback log, 1.3GB 17:23 VanessaE what is wrong with this picture? :) 17:24 celeron55 by the way, some stuff for the murricans: https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=9048 17:24 ShadowNinja the rollback log doesn't exactly use industry standard compression 17:25 VanessaE eek! No wonder it's so huge 17:25 VanessaE there's WAY too much content here for the purpose 17:26 Jordach ...of actual rollback 17:26 VanessaE yes 17:26 VanessaE well "way too much" is probably an overstatement. 17:27 Jordach probably...not 17:27 VanessaE well 17:28 VanessaE I won't make any judgments, because someone will just shoot it down 17:28 * VanessaE rm's is. 17:28 VanessaE it 17:30 celeron55 the rollback feature of minetest is kind of in a proof-of-concept state, but was included because it does work adequately for certain purposes 17:30 VanessaE oh I'm sure it does 17:30 VanessaE I'm just saying the log file is a little ...bloated :) 17:31 Jordach VanessaE, it needs to take a leaf from you, and lose a few pounds 17:31 Jordach :D 17:31 VanessaE :P 17:31 markveidemanis vanessae: its bigger because it has names:D 17:32 VanessaE it has lots of unnecessary quotation marks, brackets, spelled out actions add node (or whatever it was), etc 17:33 VanessaE and some values in each entry look like they're redundant (at least for the dozen or so lines I looked at) 17:33 VanessaE the log could be compacted somewhat without actually compressing it as such 17:34 celeron55 removing quotation marks in some cases is nonsense 17:34 celeron55 but having a way for saying eg. "same value as on previous line" could make sense 17:34 VanessaE why? if you create the file, by definition you already know the format 17:35 VanessaE this is a case where positional unquoted fields make sense, imho 17:35 VanessaE why waste space on parenthesis around the coords, for example? 17:35 VanessaE or spelling out "player:" in front of the player's name, when it could just be "P:" 17:37 Jordach VanessaE, go fix the rollback then 17:37 VanessaE no 17:37 VanessaE my "fixes" will just be shot down 17:38 celeron55 i'm choosing between saying "go to hell" and "i'll just go to hell" 17:38 VanessaE how about "I don't like that idea. It stays the way it is." 17:39 Jordach ...and this is the problem 17:40 celeron55 do you understand this is a file format with existing files, and by doing those changes you would have to leave full support for all that was before too? 17:40 celeron55 and that it would not actually bring any considerable space saving anyway 17:40 thexyz or just write a converter 17:40 VanessaE or you could just discard the old format, tell everyone to just delete their rollback.txt and let it start over? 17:40 thexyz wow 17:41 thexyz that's evil 17:41 VanessaE it's not like it's a fucking critical component or something 17:41 thexyz don't do that 17:41 FreeFull Format for what? Maps? 17:41 thexyz backwards compatibility is very damn important 17:41 VanessaE for rollback.txt? 17:41 VanessaE o.O 17:41 thexyz for pretty much anything 17:42 VanessaE well for many things, sure. 17:42 Jordach celeron55, minetest.conf new_type_rollback = false 17:42 Jordach problemo solved] 17:42 FreeFull Could write a separate tool to convert old format to new 17:42 VanessaE but we got by for a long time without even having rollback at all. Ripping up the existing format for something that doesn't eat 5 times as much space as the map file itself is not gonna cause any real problems afaics. 17:42 FreeFull Or backwards 17:43 celeron55 by the way, am i right to assume 98.28347% of the rollback file content is some stuff made by worldedit? 17:43 VanessaE dunno 17:44 * Jordach has noticed something wrong with media playback 17:45 VanessaE a bug? SAY IT AIN'T SO!! :) 17:45 celeron55 also, your real problem probably is just infinitely long rollback log; having it delete week old stuff would have you made not notice the file ever at all 17:45 Jordach my music seems oddly "sadder" 17:45 celeron55 (which it does not do, which is a lack of feature, which should be added) 17:48 Jordach1 ugh. died again. 17:48 khonkhortisan /unkill Jordach 17:48 khonkhortisan your cloak is slow 17:49 Jordach ...and 17:49 Jordach ShadowNinja moaned 17:49 khonkhortisan you actually said something before it activated 17:49 * Jordach DNGIF 17:49 Jordach OH FOR FUCK SAKES 17:50 Jordach fuck OAuth tokens by sudo apt-get upgrade 17:50 khonkhortisan or zypper, or yum 17:50 Jordach Hotot BROKE AGAIN 17:51 Jordach also: Spotify should stop spinning core #1 at 28% 17:51 rubenwardy very wierd bug: https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator 17:52 rubenwardy no idea how to fix it 17:53 Jordach OH CRAP. 17:53 Jordach Linux's emerge thread locked up 18:27 rubenwardy hi 18:32 Calinou Jordach: blame flash/silverlight/java/whatever spotify uses for its DRM 18:32 Jordach Calinou, its HTTP streams 18:38 ShadowNinja bug in minetest: sometimes placing a node will replace the node that you are trying to place it on, I lost a chest from that once 18:39 VanessaE I can confirm that 18:39 VanessaE had it happen to me more times than I can count 18:39 ShadowNinja do you have any idea why? 18:40 Jordach hold right click to multi place 18:40 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on the floor 18:40 VanessaE ShadowNinja: no idea. 18:41 MiJyn rubenwardy, I've been trying in vain to figure out how your app works 18:41 MiJyn how DOES it work? 18:41 rubenwardy I will do some docs 18:41 MiJyn ok 18:41 MiJyn all I figured how to do is move the camera and add a nodebox 18:42 ShadowNinja I found out that the masterserver counts you logging in to your own server multiple times 18:45 rubenwardy oh, that is all you can do 18:46 MiJyn rubenwardy, oh, can you move it? 18:46 rubenwardy A/Z to resize by x, that is all it does 18:46 rubenwardy code structure docs: https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator/wiki/HowItWorks 18:47 MiJyn I like the animation there ^^ 18:49 * MiJyn puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 18:55 rubenwardy it is not meant to glitch... 18:55 MiJyn lol i know... xD 18:56 Traxie21 I has a question 18:56 Traxie21 Is there any way to determine what button was pressed in a formspec without knowning the name of the button? 18:56 VanessaE no clue 18:57 Traxie21 I'm making a page that shows all warps on the server 18:57 Traxie21 and I need it to warp when the button for a warp is clicked, but I cant find a way to determine what button was pressed 19:00 khonkhortisan it's not as simple as reading an array, it's fields.buttonname 19:01 Traxie21 Wait 19:01 Traxie21 I think I got it 19:04 * Jordach is going for virtualbox 19:04 Jordach (with windows xp sp3 for ITUNES...) 19:06 Traxie21 This is insane 19:06 Traxie21 I just have to check what button is pressed 19:06 Jordach thats MInetest 19:06 Traxie21 but I cant find the system that fields uses 19:09 MiJyn Traxie21, would the teleports mod help? 19:09 MiJyn I know they have something like that 19:09 MiJyn *it 19:09 Traxie21 No, I think i got it 19:10 webdesigner97 hi 19:10 Traxie21 hai 19:10 khonkhortisan I have my buttons named L1-3 R1-3 so I check if fields.L1 elseif fields.L2 elseif... 19:10 Calinou Jordach: clementine all the way 19:10 Calinou ditch your ipad :3 19:10 Traxie21 Nvm, it works now 19:11 Jordach Calinou, its the best jukebox i got, and no, MPD is shit 19:11 * Calinou looks at c-fifty-five and says: "musicd" 19:11 Jordach (not to mention the games are actually good!) 19:11 * Jordach highlights that my music is DRM-FREE 19:11 khonkhortisan I don't think he can hear you when you say c-fifty-five 19:12 Jordach UHOH 19:13 Jordach Clementine Error 19:13 Calinou clementine never crashed for me 19:13 Calinou or once, when doing something weird with the play list 19:13 * Jordach had the CPU Sucking Task Manager Open 19:14 Calinou thing currently sucking my CPU is teamspeak like always 19:14 Jordach thing currently sucking my CPU is teamspeak like always -- o.o 19:14 Jordach who dafuq uses teamspeak? 19:14 khonkhortisan bzflag riker cup uses teamspeak 19:15 Calinou some people in a french community of sauerbraten 19:15 Calinou even though the admin is paying a small license every year ;-; 19:15 khonkhortisan sauerbraten is similar to minetest in editable cubes 19:23 Jordach 1) Install Xubuntu 19:23 Jordach 2) Install VirtualBox 19:23 Jordach 3) Get Windows XP DISC. 19:23 Jordach 4) Listen to music with Windows Media Player. 19:23 Jordach 5) Profit 19:25 Jordach Calinou, 19:25 Jordach ^^ 19:25 STHGOM *4) Listen to music with VLC 19:26 * Jordach feels like god 19:26 STHGOM how would you know? 19:26 VanessaE 6) set up a digital loop and rip all your windows media/itunes/etc to MP3 :) 19:26 Calinou VLC is not good as a muci player :P 19:26 Calinou VanessaE: MP3? no, OGG or FLAC >:( 19:26 Jordach no. its pretty crap. 19:27 Jordach LOL FLAC 19:27 Calinou flac is big but nice 19:27 Calinou on good headphones you hear the difference 19:27 VanessaE ok ogg then, but flac is useless if you're starting from lossy compression anyway 19:27 Jordach i'd rather accept DOG SHIT than FLAC 19:27 Calinou but good ogg is enough most of the time 19:28 Jordach yes you heard, I'd rather take SHIT than FLAC. 19:28 Jordach ...and eat it too! 19:28 * Calinou eats flak 19:28 VanessaE what's wrong with flac? 19:28 STHGOM well old windows media player cant play OGG 19:28 STHGOM *OO 19:28 Jordach huge, waste of disc...just like rollback logs 19:29 STHGOM **OOG 19:29 Jordach ***ogg 19:29 STHGOM haha 19:29 STHGOM :P 19:29 Jordach anyways, i leik MP3 19:29 VanessaE well yeah flac takes quite a bit of disk space, but that's because it's lossless :) 19:29 STHGOM i forgot twice 19:29 Calinou OGG has better compression of MP3 :P 19:29 * Jordach is a ehm-pee-freetard 19:29 Calinou than* 19:29 VanessaE in practice, 320kbps MP3 or quality 10 ogg is indistinguishable from uncompressed anyway 19:29 Calinou STHGOM: WMP could never play OGG 19:29 Calinou that 19:30 Jordach Calinou, K-Lite video codec 19:30 Jordach comes with FF-MPEG 19:30 STHGOM oky dan VLC is bettr 19:30 sfan5 meow!meow!meow! 19:30 STHGOM i wsnt sure 19:30 * PilzAdam prefers Minetest to listen to OGGs 19:30 sfan5 meow!... meow! 19:30 sfan5 meow! 19:30 STHGOM RRAAAAAARRHHHH 19:31 * Jordach feels old 19:31 VanessaE you ARE old. 19:31 VanessaE ;) 19:31 VanessaE of course, so am I. yesterday was my 39th :-S 19:32 STHGOM he IS?!?!? 19:32 Jordach STHGOM, nope. 16.8 19:32 Calinou oh, happy birthday then :p 19:32 STHGOM happy birthday 19:32 VanessaE thanks 19:32 Calinou mine is in 1 week 19:32 STHGOM i younger dan you both 19:32 VanessaE for my birthday present, I bought myself 16GB of DDR3/1333 :-) 19:32 Calinou I'll be born in 1988 instead of 1987 in one week :) 19:32 * Jordach didnt expect that 19:32 STHGOM i 3 19:32 Calinou better buy 1866mhz one instead, it's only 10 euros expensive per 8GB on average :P 19:33 STHGOM :D 19:33 * Calinou sees no use for 16GB of RAM currently 19:33 Calinou RAMdisking huge minetest worlds? ;) 19:33 VanessaE Calinou: believe me, I can find uses for it :D 19:33 * Jordach coughs up a lung 19:34 Calinou or putting debug.txt in RAM 19:34 VanessaE heh 19:34 * Jordach coughs up a liver 19:34 STHGOM oooOOOooooo 19:34 STHGOM ooOOOOOoo 19:34 VanessaE and in so doing, my hubby gets another 4GB in his box :-) 19:34 Jordach du du du du 19:34 VanessaE win-win :) 19:34 Jordach *repeats drumming* 19:35 STHGOM 30TB ram XD 19:35 Jordach Windows 2012 Server Datacentre ED. supports 4TB of ram 19:35 Calinou Z77 chipset mobos support 32GB at most, 64GB for X79 chipset 19:35 Jordach and infinite amount of CPUs. 19:35 Calinou 64GB is max amount with 32 bit PAE 19:35 VanessaE Calinou: besides, it was only $77. I wanted a moderate boost, and my machine maxes at 16GB anyway, so I couldn't pass up a deal like that :) 19:36 STHGOM :( 19:36 * Calinou wouldn't be surprised to see "private copy tax" on RAM soon 19:36 Calinou in france, anything where you can put stuff = tax to pay "artists" (lol) 19:36 Jordach VanessaE, i wouldnt be surprised if they added RAM pointer DRM 19:36 Calinou RAM doesn't have that tax currently :P 19:37 Jordach Calinou, FIndus some RAM burgers 19:37 VanessaE if they wanna charge me extra for having lots of RAM, they can kiss my rosy red ass. 19:37 Jordach find us* 19:37 STHGOM how you make different player in minetest 4.4 19:37 Calinou 0.4.4* 19:37 STHGOM 0.4.4 19:38 * Jordach wants a minetest birthday commit 19:38 STHGOM 0.0.0.0.4.4 19:38 Jordach ^^ Shit versioning 19:38 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577219/ 19:38 Calinou (in #redeclipse) 19:39 sfan5 you died? 19:39 Jordach aO.O 19:39 Jordach -a 19:40 Jordach Calinou, judge me! 19:41 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577229/ 19:41 Jordach but why the kick? 19:42 Calinou because 1) you aren't in the channel 2) no luck :P 19:42 Jordach Calinou, i was actually 19:43 Calinou oh 19:43 Jordach Calinou: A total of 289 people have been killed in the name of the law 19:43 Calinou dinner, bye 19:44 * Jordach watches windows xp setup and sees FAX SUPPORT 19:45 berome fax support ? => chéguette .... (enormous epic win) 19:45 khonkhortisan I have a fax machine in the garage 19:46 berome yes , serious respect 19:46 berome 3 D printer is better, but more expensive ... 19:46 khonkhortisan When the 3D printer breaks, just print out more parts. 19:47 OldCoder Hi 19:47 OldCoder I will be here later today 19:47 khonkhortisan Hello OldCoder 19:47 OldCoder o/ 19:47 avi_ if you can print on cardboard 19:47 avi_ you have a cheap 3D printer 19:47 berome hi all :-) 19:47 avi_ YOu just need scissor dexterity 19:47 avi_ slice your object into N layers and cut it out 19:47 khonkhortisan probably just a motorized arm with a model knife 19:48 avi_ well a laser cutter or cnc would work 19:48 khonkhortisan laser cutting cardboard? :) 19:48 sfan5 i'm looking for a video codec that is easy to use for the programmer 19:48 avi_ if you supervise it and tune it appropriately? sure 19:48 avi_ sfan5: opencv already provides most ffmpeg bindings 19:49 avi_ sfan5: if you want per frame access, opencv does it 19:49 sfan5 !g opencv 19:49 MinetestBot sfan5: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/ 19:49 sfan5 let me see 19:49 berome Jordach: that's was a joke, of course; I like idea you are try some GNU/Linux stuffs 19:50 berome khonkhortisan: I was serious 19:50 avi_ sfan5: https://github.com/abramhindle/Video-Score-Gen check the .cpp files out 19:51 Jordach berome, hm? 19:52 sfan5 avi_: what does Video-Score-Gen do exactly? 19:52 berome Jordach: nothing important 19:52 berome :-) 19:52 avi_ sfan5: it watches a video, produces statistics and then makes a musical score associated with the video 19:52 avi_ sfan5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiE-WCG7SHQ 19:53 avi_ sfan5: I give it my buddy's video as input, and it produces the music based on the properties and motion of the video 19:53 sfan5 i don't know if my ears will like that ;) 19:53 avi_ probably not... 19:53 Jordach tch. IE6 crash. 19:53 Jordach no biggie 19:53 avi_ my tastes are pretty dissonant 19:53 sfan5 that sounds like a train 19:54 avi_ sfan5: some events are in time with events in the video 19:54 sfan5 ..stopping at a train station 19:54 avi_ sfan5: all I did was provide some thresholds and equations 19:54 avi_ sfan5: so the computer makes music based on video 19:54 avi_ sfan5: opencv is a nice framework 19:54 avi_ gtg 19:54 avi_ ttyl sfan5 19:55 Jordach OMFG. IE6 Displaying fancy features. 19:55 Traxie21 ServerExtended updated with a GUI warp list! (Unstable Branch) 19:56 berome (bye, not enough cared "random people of internet") 19:56 Jordach IE6 = crash. crash. crash. 19:58 khonkhortisan I can't jump if I'm standing on the very corner of a node 19:59 khonkhortisan it's weird, the jump radius is smaller than the fall radius 20:13 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a puppy on MinetestBot's head 20:13 NekoGloop|Laptop Ok, don't want it then? 20:14 khonkhortisan hi MinetestBot 20:14 MinetestBot Hey khonkhortisan 20:15 * MiJyn places a kitten on MinetestBot's head 20:15 * MiJyn puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 20:15 * MiJyn puts a kitty on MinetestBot's head 20:15 MiJyn ? 20:15 * khonkhortisan watches the puppy and kitten on MinetestBot's head 20:17 * STHGOM watched khonkhortisan watch the kitten on MinetestBots' head 20:17 khonkhortisan looks like I can edit a text file right on github, but I can't upload a changed image on github. 20:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, the public server list says that one need a password for your server 20:18 VanessaE correct. 20:18 VanessaE I don't allow passwordless logins 20:18 VanessaE so just sign in and make one. 20:19 khonkhortisan I wouldn't allow passwordless either 20:19 PilzAdam I just wanted to check if the code is correct 20:19 khonkhortisan I want to know someone is the same person 20:19 VanessaE oh ok 20:19 VanessaE yeah 20:21 PilzAdam proller, are you arround? 20:21 proller me 20:21 PilzAdam why do you need server_dedicated in the settings? 20:21 proller only for sending to master 20:22 proller maybe better make it via global var 20:24 * Jordach is working on Faithful 2.0..NOW WITH LESS BLUR 20:24 sfan5 MiJyn: autoresp module got deleted by celeron55's request 20:28 khonkhortisan All I need is the link and it highlights the name: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/pull/5 20:31 khonkhortisan Swipe has the images on the opposite sides as 2-up and Onion Skin compares do 20:32 khonkhortisan never mind, they're on the right side but the slider goes the other way 20:33 Obstru Hello all ! 20:33 khonkhortisan Hi 20:33 khonkhortisan MinetestBot is being lazy 20:34 Obstru On what server are you playing ? 20:34 STHGOM halooo 20:34 khonkhortisan I'm not personally, I'm making rail conductive. 20:35 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Hzbdlqq.png I must be bricking it 20:36 Obstru what's the id to the server halo ? 20:36 khonkhortisan that brick engraving must be the company logo 20:37 STHGOM you mean like servers.minetest.ru ? 20:39 Obstru yes exactly 20:40 sfan5 khonkhortisan: <sfan5> MiJyn: autoresp module got deleted by celeron55's request 20:41 MiJyn sfan5, that's cruel! WE NEED AUTORESP! 20:41 sfan5 tell that celeron 20:42 MiJyn http://poll.pollcode.com/uy5giq 20:42 MiJyn there 20:42 STHGOM i play on minetest.org: 30015 20:43 khonkhortisan what autoresp? 20:43 VanessaE sfan5: having problems? 20:43 sfan5 yes 20:43 khonkhortisan oh. 20:43 sfan5 minetest/src/client.cpp:1716: void Client::ProcessData(irr::u8*, irr::u32, irr::u16): Assertion '!m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed. 20:44 sfan5 VanessaE: does your server use curl for media downloads? 20:45 VanessaE nope, too lazy to set it up 20:45 Obstru In minetest can we choose a map ? 20:45 VanessaE (and kinda stubborn, to be honest, that kinda stuff belongs in the engine, not in some third-party program) 20:45 STHGOM you can chose the server 20:45 VanessaE yes I know 20:45 VanessaE oh, nevermind,. 20:46 Obstru yes, and how you know the map to the server ? 20:47 STHGOM my in-game name is sparky 20:47 frogcrush Hi, my game is crashing (access violation) when I try to use creative mode and switch pages. Has anybody else had that? 20:47 Obstru Can you download map ? If you want create a server ? 20:52 sfan5 frogcrush: look at the github.com/minetest/minetest bugtracker 20:55 MiJyn just wondering, in what way is minetest a game engine? 20:55 khonkhortisan all the cubes can be changed 20:57 MiJyn so it's a moddable game 20:57 MiJyn right? 20:57 MiJyn my question is: how is it a game ENGINE? 20:58 MiJyn put really simply, all you can _really_ do is add new blocks 20:58 MiJyn (blocks includes nodes, items, entities, etc...) 20:58 MiJyn or edit (which is essentially the same as adding a new block) 20:58 MiJyn you can't change the HUD, you can't change how the game behaves 20:59 MiJyn honestly 21:02 VanessaE MiJyn: http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#TODO_in_minetest_game 21:03 VanessaE if you look, you'll notice the TODO has those things already listed 21:03 khonkhortisan PilzAdam, still there? 21:05 Jordach PilzAdam is sleeping 21:06 MiJyn VanessaE, that's not my point 21:06 khonkhortisan My pull request scared him off 21:06 RealBadAngel ha, funny thing 21:07 khonkhortisan I split my commit into two, and that's the smaller part 21:07 MiJyn it's just that... it's not a game engine... it's a moddable game 21:07 RealBadAngel minetest is able to play local sounds, without caching them 21:07 VanessaE it would be more accurate to call it a sandbox engine perhaps, but you can modify the behavior to your heart's content, it's all a matter of imagination 21:07 RealBadAngel so ambience mod is able to play music only on client side 21:07 VanessaE look at the UFO mod for example 21:07 khonkhortisan that's the read-only section of the cache 21:08 MiJyn VanessaE, umm... you know what a game engine is, right? 21:08 VanessaE of course I do. 21:08 VanessaE which is why I just proposed a different term 21:08 khonkhortisan You can't make a fighter jet yet, the player won't do loop-de-loops or barrel rolls 21:08 Jordach WE SHOULD TOTALLY MAKE A VOXEL GAME IN UNREAL ENGINE 21:09 Jordach >:D 21:09 * Jordach heads off to bed 21:09 MiJyn VanessaE, oh, sandbox engine, right 21:09 MiJyn Jordach, haha, that would be funny 21:09 VanessaE but your argument is invalid - there's nothing stopping an experienced coder from making an entirely new game based off the minetest engine - it need not even have anything do DO with minetest and the like 21:09 khonkhortisan How do I "freeze" a pull request where further commits to the same branch won't get added? 21:10 Jordach khonkhortisan, don't commit to that one branch 21:10 Jordach simple. 21:10 MiJyn VanessaE, well, duh, he can fork it 21:10 MiJyn anyone can 21:10 MiJyn but then it would be a DIFFERENT game engine 21:10 khonkhortisan It would be more complicated if my second commit was added before the first. My first commit changes a file, the second moves it. 21:10 VanessaE um 21:10 VanessaE you take minetest, the engine, build a new Lua game on top of it 21:11 VanessaE 99% of the game's content is in Lua now anyway 21:11 khonkhortisan then make the lua game take mods written in c++ 21:12 MiJyn lol... 21:12 sfan5 :D 21:13 MiJyn if you're gonna call minetest a game engine, you might as well call sauerbraten a game engine too 21:14 MiJyn honestly lol 21:14 sdzen I only bring up the whole minetest is an engine thing when I want to irritate people 21:14 sdzen I will never stop thinking of it as a game 21:14 MiJyn sdzen, same here 21:15 MiJyn I find it sort of silly to call it a game engine... before game engines were things like blender, unreal, cryengine, ogre3d, etc... 21:15 MiJyn now even things like amnesia are called engines :/ 21:15 MiJyn and then someone's gonna tell me sauerbraten is an engine too? 21:16 khonkhortisan sauerbraten uses cube, same with assaultcube 21:16 MiJyn yeah, of course 21:16 MiJyn but sauerbraten is not lol 21:17 khonkhortisan that'd be like calling skyblock an engine 21:17 MiJyn yeah exactly 21:19 khonkhortisan Oh! I said that right when he wasn't here. "All I need is the link and it highlights the name: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/pull/5" 21:21 RealBadAngel some is using ambience mod here? 21:21 khonkhortisan I was using it, not right now 21:22 RealBadAngel i just forced it to play locally stored music 21:22 * sokomine looks susupicously at all the bots around before considering greeting 21:22 sokomine h i everyone 21:22 khonkhortisan it's been turned off 21:22 VanessaE hey soko. 21:22 khonkhortisan hi all 21:22 khonkhortisan but it'll still respond if you address it directly 21:22 RealBadAngel so server doesnt have to send music files to the client 21:22 MiJyn hi MinetestBot 21:22 VanessaE piss off, MinetestBot 21:22 VanessaE ;) 21:22 MinetestBot Hi MiJyn! 21:22 MiJyn ah :) 21:23 RealBadAngel all what is needed to do is put the oggs in main game folder in /testsounds 21:24 RealBadAngel and rename them to name.0.ogg, name.1.ogg etc, up to .9.ogg 21:24 RealBadAngel and change filenames to be played in ambience mod 21:25 sokomine ah, ok. so the bot behaves well now :-) 21:25 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/game.cpp#L847 21:25 RealBadAngel all thx to this code 21:45 Akerok hello. 21:46 STHGOM halloooo 21:46 Akerok Can anyone tell me why /clearobjects causes my server to take up all the ram on my computer and makes everything unstable? 21:47 NekoGloop|Laptop Because too many objects 21:47 VanessaE this is a known bug, no idea of any solution though 21:47 Akerok I shouldn't use it then, correct? 21:47 VanessaE usually it isn't needed 21:47 Akerok Or, will it fix itself? 21:50 VanessaE just leave it be, and if it bugs out, kill and restart your server (or game) 21:51 Akerok Ok. What exactly is that command for? 21:51 VanessaE it deletes all entities in the map 21:52 VanessaE e.g. dropped items, mobs, etc 21:52 VanessaE it's normally intended for cleaning up when you have way too many in the map, or if some entity-based mod goes wrong 21:52 Kacey hi all 21:52 VanessaE hey 21:53 STHGOM howdy 21:53 * Kacey had a mod idea earlier, but forgot :/ 21:53 * khonkhortisan ran git commit --append 21:54 Kacey aah it wanst a mod idea, but an extension to technic, yes i remember now! 21:54 STHGOM aircraft? 21:54 Akerok Ok. That's what I thought. We have been having a big issue with dropping items. They seem to go through the floor. That's ok, though. I will just restart the server if it gets buggy. 21:55 khonkhortisan I had to submit my pull request for "Files Changed" to notice my commit had changed 22:02 khonkhortisan :( git diff doesn't work after git add 22:06 thexyz git diff --staged 22:06 thexyz git diff --cached 22:07 proller git diff HEAD 22:07 khonkhortisan Well it should ask me if I meant that, instead of giving me a blank stare. 22:07 thexyz why? 22:07 khonkhortisan Because that's the same answer it gives me if there really _is_ no diff. 22:08 proller git diff origin/master 22:08 jfu how did i build a ropebox again? 22:08 NekoGloop|Laptop git explode 22:09 Kacey wood over 2 vines 22:09 jfu ok thx 22:09 khonkhortisan 'explode' is not a git command. 22:09 NekoGloop|Laptop like hell it isn 22:09 NekoGloop|Laptop 't 22:20 STHGOM bye 22:22 Kacey bbl 22:23 khonkhortisan I like how digging the sand under a rail makes the rail fall too 22:26 NekoGloop|Laptop Do falling nodes pull attached nodes? 22:26 khonkhortisan Rail falls when placed on airlike (includes mesecons) 22:28 NekoGloop|Laptop as dropped item or as node? 22:30 khonkhortisan dropped item 22:33 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/mapp.zip 22:33 VanessaE khonkhortisan: use copper rails. 22:34 VanessaE those don't fall 22:34 RealBadAngel changed the map to be a tool 22:34 RealBadAngel works quite nice 22:35 khonkhortisan I forgot about those 22:36 khonkhortisan Copper rail also doesn't connect to other rail 22:39 VanessaE yeah I know 22:39 VanessaE Jeija has an engine patch waiting that'll fix that 22:39 khonkhortisan I'm fixing all the rail I can find to use that patch 22:40 khonkhortisan I want a transportation system for a museum of mesecon machines 22:44 jin_xi was just testing the mapp thing, it is nice 22:44 khonkhortisan copper rail is slightly less useful if I have to build a bridge anyway to get a mesecon signal across 22:46 khonkhortisan Has anyone done diagonal rail? 22:50 kaeza _hi all_ 22:50 khonkhortisan it's off 22:50 Exio hey kaeza 22:50 kaeza sup Exio? 22:51 Exio i was playing RE, now, ehm, doing nothing ^^, you? 22:54 khonkhortisan mesecons have a temporary maximum signal distance 22:55 Deivan How I make a mod start before all others? 22:56 khonkhortisan There should be a different solution 23:01 VanessaE Deivan: make "default" depend on it ;-) 23:02 khonkhortisan that'll work 23:02 Deivan To invasive... Hehehe. 23:02 Deivan Ok. 23:02 Deivan Thanks. 23:04 VanessaE well, wouldn't it be just a one-line change? 23:04 VanessaE surely default has a depends.txt 23:05 Deivan You use the unified mod in your server no? 23:05 Deivan The crafting guide, my project now have many similarities to this mod. 23:06 Deivan But, sometimes I have less itens in the craft list than the total. 23:06 Deivan Then I make my own function but I don't have all recipes. 23:06 Deivan The overrite of the register function only work after the load then all registered itens before it will be lost. 23:06 Deivan :-/ 23:07 Deivan I need a better API. :-P 23:07 VanessaE RealBadAngel solved that by adding a mod to act as a hook, named aaa_recipeshook 23:07 VanessaE the theory was that mods were loaded in alpha order, dependencies aside 23:08 VanessaE so this one would, in theory, always load first. 23:08 Deivan Nice. 23:08 Deivan Have a tutorial to it? 23:08 VanessaE no, sorry 23:08 Deivan To bad. 23:08 Deivan Have a mod doing it? 23:08 Deivan unified? 23:08 VanessaE just try it like that, name it aaaa_mymod 23:08 Deivan Now I understood your point... 23:09 Deivan I will try it. 23:09 Deivan Thanks. 23:09 Deivan (I need a better api...) 23:09 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/aaa_recipeshook/init.lua 23:09 kaeza Exio: RE? Which one? 23:09 Deivan Thanks. 23:10 Exio kaeza: RedEclipse :P 23:10 kaeza ah lol 23:10 kaeza thought you meant Resident Evil 23:10 Deivan You code is the same of from the crafting guide. 23:10 Exio is it opensource, runs on linux and that stuff? 23:10 Deivan I try the rename possibility then. 23:10 Exio >:D 23:10 Deivan Thanks. 23:10 Deivan AFK 23:11 RealBadAngel UI is a rework of cornernote's mods 23:12 Deivan A doubt... What happend if two mods try override the register function? 23:12 kaeza Exio, open source: no, runs on linux: yes 23:12 Exio kaeza: with our w/o wine? :P 23:12 Deivan Wine is very cool. :D 23:12 Exio with or * 23:13 kaeza Exio, ePSXe :P 23:13 Exio atm i haz wine only for stranded 23:13 Deivan Very cool to. :d 23:13 Exio i love that game 23:13 Deivan Emulation make possible to me play Vandal Hears to the end. :D 23:13 NekoGloop|Laptop ePSXe ftw :D 23:14 * NekoGloop|Laptop is playing an FFT mod 23:14 kaeza Exio, There's also am unreleased version or Resident Evil for the NES 23:14 kaeza an* 23:14 Deivan 8 bits nes? 23:14 Deivan Oo 23:14 kaeza yep 23:14 Deivan :-o 23:14 Exio what about my sega? 23:14 jojoa1997 Hi all! 23:14 VanessaE hey 23:14 Exio hey jojoa 23:15 jojoa1997 What painting programs do you use 23:15 Deivan Resident Evil come after the end of the 8bits, is a hack game? 23:15 Exio jojoa1997: mypaint, pinta, gimp 23:15 Exio and so on 23:15 jojoa1997 my current one is good for pixel art but bad for editing 23:15 NekoGloop|Laptop I can emulate a NDS on my pc. Suck it. 23:15 Deivan Use gimp + inkscape. :d 23:15 kaeza Deivan, google "Biohazard for NES" (Biohazard is the JAP name or Resident Evil) 23:15 Exio for*? 23:15 kaeza for* 23:15 Deivan I remember this name... 23:15 Exio :P 23:16 jojoa1997 i have gimp but cant figure out how to make the paint brush only do one pixel and also to choose the colors 23:16 kaeza jojoa1997, tick "hard borders" 23:16 kaeza or smth like that 23:16 jojoa1997 kaeza? 23:16 Exio kaeza: google ☣ 23:17 Deivan Is a hack game... 23:17 Deivan Made by some crazy fan. 23:17 Deivan :d 23:17 jojoa1997 i will just try to find a different one than gimp 23:17 kaeza yep 23:17 Deivan inkscape? 23:17 kaeza jojoa1997, ASEprite <3 23:17 Exio use ms paint 23:17 jojoa1997 no 23:17 Exio or better, POWERPOINT 23:17 Exio >:D 23:17 Deivan oO 23:17 Exio jk :P 23:18 jojoa1997 mspaint doesnt have background clear by defau;t 23:18 kaeza fuck that! I use notepad to edit my images 23:18 Deivan I have work to do... But is a nice chanell. :d 23:18 Deivan AFK 23:18 NekoGloop|Laptop I use notepad for-- DAMMIT 23:18 Exio kaeza: why notepad, microsoft word is better! 23:19 jojoa1997 Vanessae i checked out ubuntu and i think i will stick with windows 23:19 VanessaE jojoa1997: suit yourself 23:19 NekoGloop|Laptop I have a better one 23:19 NekoGloop|Laptop I use minetest to edit images. 23:19 VanessaE I've been using linux for longer than I can remember. 23:19 Exio NekoGloop|Laptop: we use your for editing images! 23:19 Exio you* 23:20 jojoa1997 i would like to download and actually test it but i dont have a flashdrive and i dont want to mess around with the hardrive until i actually own the computer 23:20 VanessaE jojoa1997: burn it to a CD or DVD 23:20 MiJyn Exio, I use kittens to edit images 23:20 jojoa1997 VanessaE: until i actually own the computer 23:20 jojoa1997 it is mine but my mom owns it 23:21 VanessaE jojoa1997: you can run it from CD/DVD. works the same way as running it from a thumbdrive, just slower. 23:21 jojoa1997 in 2 more years it is mine XD 23:21 VanessaE (you just can't save anything) 23:21 PilzAdam who hightlighted me? 23:21 jojoa1997 no it is my mom that is the problme 23:21 Exio jojoa1997: you can use it in the livecd 23:21 MiJyn jojoa1997, why don't you just buy one? 23:21 Exio without installing it 23:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: (random highlight, just because)... not me 23:21 VanessaE :) 23:21 Exio and btw, get some money and buy an APU 23:21 MiJyn PilzAdam, ME! :P JK 23:22 MiJyn not me 23:22 Exio in my backlog 23:22 jojoa1997 Exio: livecd? MiJyn: i dont have a job and my parents are not rich 23:22 Exio [18:03:24]* PilzAdam, still there? 23:22 Exio [18:05:39]* PilzAdam is sleeping 23:22 kaeza MiJyn, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/6901202688.gif 23:22 PilzAdam if anyone is interested in what I have done the last 2h 1m: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/77927690/2/265755239/ 23:23 jojoa1997 kaeza that your cat? 23:23 MiJyn jojoa1997, oh 23:23 VanessaE kaeza: haha 23:23 kaeza Re: Exio, I use kittens to edit images 23:23 MiJyn kaeza, https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoHg5SJYRHA0&ei=gjgxUZDuKtOpqwGxkICAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEcy3X8QxEz3ZqmxAznmt4YfNijBQ&sig2=gFdnbDQe6pMDtD6VKTJQag&bvm=bv.43148975,d.aWM 23:23 MiJyn oops 23:23 MiJyn whatever 23:24 MiJyn kaeza, oh, I see... 23:24 jojoa1997 o.o o.o o.o o.o o.O O.o o.O o.O O.o O.O O.O 0.0 0.0 0.0.0 0.0 23:24 kaeza frak 23:24 VanessaE *real* artists ask Chuck Norris, who just has to look at the computer just right to get the pixels to arrange themselves. 23:24 kaeza can't believe I fell for that one :P 23:24 Exio i love flash 23:25 MiJyn kaeza, haha 23:25 khonkhortisan PilzAdam, it was me. I have a pull request for carts. 23:25 MiJyn VanessaE, ah, yes, of course 23:26 * jojoa1997 = Chuck Norris yall = GONE 23:27 * kaeza extends his third hand to high five PilzAdam 23:27 kaeza :P 23:27 Exio JS + flash = 3 GB ram usage + 100% always in one core 23:27 * NekoGloop|Laptop uses butterflies to edit images 23:27 khonkhortisan I was waiting for the butterflies 23:27 MiJyn NekoGloop| 23:27 khonkhortisan |Laptop 23:27 MiJyn yeah, missed that one :P 23:28 MiJyn was that like an MLP reference? xD 23:28 NekoGloop|Laptop ew. 23:28 NekoGloop|Laptop gtfo 23:28 NekoGloop|Laptop NOW. 23:28 khonkhortisan dunno 23:28 kaeza MiJyn, N 23:28 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: issue with that? xD 23:28 MiJyn kaeza: thanks xD 23:28 NekoGloop|Laptop YES. G.T.F.O. 23:28 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: What's your issue? 23:29 khonkhortisan Something can only be so cute before it gets ugly 23:29 NekoGloop|Laptop You dare insult me 23:29 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: It's not an insult... it's an epic TV show! 23:29 jojoa1997 in my paint can i have the backgroung transparent like github 23:29 MiJyn khonkhortisan: ? 23:29 khonkhortisan Not specifically about that show, but I've heard something about overcuteness being bad 23:31 MiJyn khonkhortisan: ah, you haven't watched it yet... you got to! 23:31 khonkhortisan I haven't. 23:31 NekoGloop|Laptop I'd call him gay but then I'd be insulting homosexuals. 23:32 khonkhortisan ^ saying he's lower than the gay 23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Actually I'm saying I have a higher opinion of homosexuals than you do. 23:33 MiJyn come on guys, you just gotta watch and enjoy the show 23:33 khonkhortisan same thing, gay > MiJyn, wherever those values actually land 23:33 MiJyn I love horror movies... and I love MLP 23:33 MiJyn issue? 23:33 NekoGloop|Laptop If I wanna hear high pitched girly voices I'd go to an orphanage. 23:34 khonkhortisan I'd prefer medical surgery blood over horror movie ketchup 23:34 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: ugh... people these days... 23:34 MiJyn khonkhortisan: horror movie KETCHUP? 23:35 khonkhortisan monsters inside me, mystery diagnosis x, untold stories of the er, etc. 23:35 khonkhortisan Well, not exactly ketchup, but not all of it looks real. 23:36 MiJyn oh 23:36 MiJyn xD 23:37 NekoGloop|Laptop Trust me... the art in MLP is better than the story which is better than the voice acting. 23:37 NekoGloop|Laptop And the art is horrible. 23:38 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: Hmm, the voice acting is actually pretty good, the story, yeah, is horrible. What makes it cool is how it portrays each character 23:39 MiJyn it takes pretty much the 6 types of people these days, and exaggerates them 23:39 MiJyn and then builds its story off of that 23:39 NekoGloop|Laptop Oh, well there's the difference between you and me. 23:39 NekoGloop|Laptop You think people can be defined in sets. 23:39 MiJyn there is :) 23:39 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: you know what I mean 23:40 NekoGloop|Laptop Oh I know exactly what you mean 23:41 MiJyn ok 23:41 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop|Laptop's head 23:41 MiJyn great 23:41 * MiJyn puts fluttershy on NekoGloop|Laptop's head 23:41 * NekoGloop|Laptop shoots it with a shotgun 23:42 * MiJyn gathers the millions of MLP fans against you >:) 23:42 * NekoGloop|Laptop reloads shottie 23:44 MiJyn good luck 23:46 MiJyn talkinb about that, someone should _definitely_ make a MLP mod! 23:46 MiJyn *talking 23:46 * john_minetest makes ready the kitten cannon 23:47 * MiJyn calls Pinkie Pie to ready her party cannon 23:47 * john_minetest calls a kitten riding on a Robo-Unicorn. Beat that. 23:47 NekoGloop|Laptop * The horse takes a shit on MiJyn's foot 23:48 MiJyn john_minetest: hey, I'm not trying to beat you, we're working together, right? 23:48 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: *hoof 23:49 NekoGloop|Laptop You're a fucking human. You don't have hooves. 23:49 MiJyn NekoGloop|Laptop: I'm a brony 23:49 NekoGloop|Laptop I don't hate the show as much as I hate those who watch it... 23:49 NekoGloop|Laptop And you know how much I hate the show. 23:49 MiJyn and why? 23:50 NekoGloop|Laptop "lolz you should watch dis show it has poniez and you're stoopid if you don't watch it lolz" 23:50 MiJyn umm 23:50 MiJyn alright... 23:51 MiJyn you're closed-minded if you hate it without watching it 23:51 MiJyn that's what 23:51 NekoGloop|Laptop I *have* watched it... 23:51 NekoGloop|Laptop I don't hate on things without trying them. 23:52 MiJyn how many? 1? 23:52 NekoGloop|Laptop 2 episodes that were somewhat forced on me (long story) 23:52 MiJyn ah 23:52 MiJyn ok 23:52 MiJyn then that's fine 23:52 MiJyn just don't start saying it's stupid 23:52 MiJyn or people who watch it are "gay" 23:58 NekoGloop|Laptop My problem is that people think that you HAVE TO WATCH IT. 23:58 NekoGloop|Laptop I *do not* watch girls' television shows. 23:59 MiJyn well, if you haven't, then I strongly recommend people to watch it 23:59 MiJyn if you have, then fine :)