Time Nick Message 00:12 khonkhortisan Does anybody have windowless doors? 00:16 JesseH um 00:16 JesseH I do :P 00:17 khonkhortisan in minetest? With a mod? 00:17 JesseH OH 00:17 JesseH LOL thought you meant in real life 00:17 khonkhortisan I can't make a bathroom 00:17 JesseH :P 00:18 JesseH Sure you can 00:18 JesseH L shaped 00:18 khonkhortisan then it looks like a public one 00:18 JesseH on man 00:18 JesseH no man* 00:18 JesseH wait dont say anything 00:18 JesseH _ 00:18 JesseH | | 00:18 JesseH |______| 00:18 JesseH like that 00:19 khonkhortisan My real life house doesn't have the space 00:19 JesseH not sure how to explain 00:19 khonkhortisan My school bathrooms had a door then an L shape 00:19 JesseH Not that large of an l shape 00:20 khonkhortisan but I want to be able to use just a door 00:21 JesseH http://hastebin.com/luwuhitafa.1c 00:21 JesseH d = door 00:21 JesseH t = toilet 00:21 khonkhortisan +---+-+ 00:21 khonkhortisan |ttt| / 00:21 khonkhortisan | | | 00:21 khonkhortisan | | 00:21 khonkhortisan +-----+ 00:22 JesseH not that large xD 00:22 khonkhortisan that's my school bathroom 00:22 JesseH toilets right next to each other 00:22 JesseH nasty 00:22 khonkhortisan not exactly 00:23 khonkhortisan but I'm looking for a mod with windowless doors 00:23 khonkhortisan like door + wood <=> windowless door 00:24 JesseH It might just be a texture pack thing :P 00:25 khonkhortisan but then I wouldn't have a windowed door 00:25 JesseH so add a object 00:26 JesseH copy the doors code 00:26 JesseH and find some way to add it in 00:26 JesseH I would do it if I had the time 00:26 khonkhortisan fine, I'll make it myself ☺ 00:26 JesseH hehehe 00:41 Kacey hello all 00:41 MinetestBot hi Kacey 00:45 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/8KN0luWt-zQ 01:02 Kacey i had a mapgen idea 01:03 khonkhortisan yes? 01:03 Kacey strongholds 01:10 kaeza hey jordan4ibanez 01:10 kaeza hey Kacey 01:14 Kacey hi 01:14 MinetestBot hi Kacey 01:14 Kacey ... 01:14 * Kacey wants to kill the bot 01:15 Kacey MinetestBot: die 01:16 khonkhortisan !die MinetestBot 01:17 khonkhortisan !killall 01:17 kaeza MinetestBot, rm -fr /* 01:17 khonkhortisan -fr? I always -rf 01:17 kaeza MinetestBot, deltree C:\WINDOWS\System32 01:18 jordan4ibanez hi kaeza 01:19 kaeza khonkhortisan, precedence does not matter mere :) 01:19 kaeza you cound do rm /* -f -r 01:19 kaeza could* 01:20 kaeza here* 01:20 kaeza aaargh 01:20 khonkhortisan it looks like it's forcing recursive 01:21 khonkhortisan hulk mad! hulk smash! 01:22 kaeza I once did a rm -fr $(dir)/* 01:22 kaeza guess what happens when 'dir' is empty? 01:22 kaeza yes, and I was root :( 01:22 khonkhortisan delete /* 01:23 kaeza everything up to and including /etc was wiped out :( 01:23 khonkhortisan the same thing happens with editor scripts 01:23 kaeza before I noticed 01:27 jin_xi brace for kittens 01:27 Kacey KITTEN BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIT THE DECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01:28 jordan4ibanez I lowered my falcon so much it got stuck on the raceline groove http://i.imgur.com/1wX00Zh.jpg 01:28 jordan4ibanez lol 01:28 hmmmm hey guys, in what mod does water + lava combine to make stone? 01:28 JesseH so many mods 01:28 hmmmm all of them except the default game 01:28 NekoGloop|Laptop hmmmm: gloopblocks has a thing 01:29 JesseH I mean, like what does the fault game offer? or is it just an engine? 01:29 * Kacey wishes he could play RoR 01:29 JesseH Heh me too! 01:29 NekoGloop|Laptop I think I see what you did there, Kacey. 01:29 JesseH wat 01:29 jin_xi http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1077 01:30 jin_xi ^ obsidian mod 01:31 NekoGloop|Laptop JesseH: R == L in japanese dialect 01:32 JesseH o 01:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=j-iJUbN0hzM me in minetest lol 01:36 kaeza doesn't technic convert lava to obsidian? 01:43 khonkhortisan there's also lava cooling which has its own obsidian 01:46 khonkhortisan and skyblock 01:47 kaeza seems like this: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png 01:51 MiJyn kaeza, haha yep 01:52 khonkhortisan 14 competing standards in the situation, 01:52 khonkhortisan 14 competing standards! 01:52 khonkhortisan develop a standard, cover everyone's use cases, 01:52 khonkhortisan 15 competing standards in the situation! 01:53 khonkhortisan ♫ 01:55 Kacey lol afk 02:03 kaeza okay, time to update my copy of MT :) 02:10 kaeza question: has the included Lua been updated? 02:11 khonkhortisan I need some tree climbing spikes to go with moretrees 02:21 Kacey back 02:21 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey! 02:21 Kacey ... 02:22 jordan4ibanez SLAMMED http://i.imgur.com/7alq95t.jpg 02:22 jordan4ibanez lmfao 02:26 Kacey D: stop showing off... 02:27 jordan4ibanez One last time :3 http://i.imgur.com/74aTYWF.jpg 02:28 jordan4ibanez I have it sitting back cutless style! 02:29 * Kacey rage qit 02:29 Kacey quit 02:30 jordan4ibanez Just get a free trial of windows 7 enterprise 02:31 jordan4ibanez reinstall it every 80 days, like you would do anyways...profit? 02:31 Kacey windows sucks 02:32 Kacey and i dont want to uninstall linux 02:32 jordan4ibanez you can duel boot you know 02:32 khonkhortisan Want to do something and blame the admin for it? 02:32 jordan4ibanez dual? dule? duel? dual. 02:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Duel booting sounds fun. 02:32 khonkhortisan dual. 02:32 Kacey i had to multiboot to get linux ON in the first place 02:33 khonkhortisan linux multiboots better than windows 02:33 Kacey i HATE windows 02:33 jordan4ibanez Windows 7 isn't too bad, I'm using xp and malware bytes is blocking trojans and worms left and right lol 02:33 khonkhortisan Question for windows person: What do I do to a window to place it behind all the other windows? 02:34 jordan4ibanez Why would you want to do that? 02:34 jordan4ibanez Minimize it? xD 02:34 khonkhortisan NO 02:34 khonkhortisan anti-raise 02:34 NekoGloop|Laptop The hell is the purpose of that? 02:35 khonkhortisan I click on a window to raise it all the way forward, double-click on a titlebar to move it all the way back. 02:35 khonkhortisan You'd use it if it worked 02:35 khonkhortisan it's an undo button for raise without having to raise every window around it 02:36 khonkhortisan and it keeps your minimized windows separate 02:36 jordan4ibanez I don't think I've actually known about that in any linux environment gui I've ever used, sounds kind of pointless 02:36 khonkhortisan :( 02:37 jordan4ibanez No offense lol 02:37 khonkhortisan un-raising is as useful as minimizing, it's two ways of doing the same thing 02:38 jordan4ibanez Oh nice, here is my response http://youtu.be/8KN0luWt-zQ?t=24s 02:39 khonkhortisan lol 02:39 khonkhortisan If you change this, it'll say the admin did it: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\DisableTaskMgr 02:56 jordan4ibanez Lol 02:57 jordan4ibanez Even modifying a car to the slightest is such a learning process 02:57 jordan4ibanez In rigsofrods 02:58 khonkhortisan rigsofrods the game where the vehicles wobble due to the physics system? 02:59 jordan4ibanez They wobble due to people badly designing them, i think it's called jelloing 02:59 jordan4ibanez Atleast that's what I call it, good cars are solid and realistic 03:00 jordan4ibanez When you make the strength of the body too weak, it could go from jelloing to totally failing over a small bump 03:03 jordan4ibanez if some of you minetest linux devs, went over there and helped compile a ppa that game would EXPLODE onto linux, right now there's only a latest release, which is unstable, but I dug out the latest stable version which windows' and servers use 03:04 jordan4ibanez http://www.rigsofrods.com/threads/97932-Announcement-PPA-for-Ubuntu-12-04/page2 03:04 jordan4ibanez post #29 03:06 jordan4ibanez I'll let you have my signature xb Falcon if you do. :3 03:07 khonkhortisan Phenylpropanolamine? 03:09 khonkhortisan what's ppa? 03:11 jordan4ibanez ppa? for ubuntu? 03:15 khonkhortisan yes, what is it? 03:16 khonkhortisan ah, I found it 03:17 khonkhortisan so it does rpm, too? 03:20 jordan4ibanez no, but i think there is a ppa to rpm converter 03:21 khonkhortisan but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Package_Archive says it makes an apt repo and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool says apt does both .deb and .rpm 03:22 khonkhortisan oh. apt-rpm. Nevermind! 03:38 hmmmm hmm, just got a chance to look at the ore stuff a little better 03:39 hmmmm would you guys agree that the primary reason why current ore distribution is so boring is because there is a constant number of ore clusters per volume? 03:39 sdzen I have never thought about the ores 03:40 Exio hmmmm: in my opinion there should be more rare 03:40 sdzen quite frankly it could be more realistic 03:40 Exio it is .. "0 mese.. 0 mese... 100 mese..." 03:40 hmmmm the more realistic thing being veins of it 03:40 Exio in terms of your inventory 03:40 Exio when you get the layer of the ore you get a lot of it in minutes 03:42 hmmmm well the layer at which they occur at is clearly exposed in the lua code, so there's really no surprises there 03:43 Exio the thing is, you don't have that ore, and when you get X layer, it becomes very common 03:44 VanessaE hmmmm: I would tend to agree with you - such an even distribution is boring. 03:44 VanessaE nothing a few layers of perlin can't fix ;) 03:44 sdzen it should be incremental from that point 03:44 hmmmm right, you see, i was originally writing two different ore generation things, and in the oredef you'd be able to specify which type of distribution it gets 03:45 hmmmm and i realized that the code for generateOreVein is pretty much going to be the exact thing as generateOreScatter, except with a perlin distribution of rarity 03:45 VanessaE like I did with the fertile ground layer with trees 03:45 hmmmm so i am going to combine the two and make there be a parameter for # ore clusters which could either be constant or perlin 03:46 VanessaE (except 3d) 03:47 hmmmm this is going to work out very cleanly i believe 03:47 Vadtec sup peeps 03:47 VanessaE hey Vadtec 03:47 hmmmm i can have both behaviors, the uniform randomness of default ores and the vein nature of moreores 03:47 VanessaE Vadtec: you needed my help earlier? 03:47 Vadtec VanessaE: do you know how i can get in touch with this Nore you keep mentioning? 03:48 Vadtec i think i know how teleport pipes work 03:48 ShadowNinja hmmmm: does this look ready for merging? https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs 03:48 Vadtec but im not 100% sure 03:48 VanessaE Oh, he's on the forums 03:48 VanessaE you should be able to just PM him 03:48 Vadtec ah, kk 03:49 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?section=pun_pm&pmpage=compose&receiver_id=3710 03:49 hmmmm oh, yes shadow it does, i'm sorry though, the feature freeze started two nights ago 03:49 hmmmm so it's going to have to wait a week 03:49 hmmmm no more new code execpt for bugfixes for critical things 03:50 ShadowNinja feature freeze? is 0.4.5 coming up? 03:50 hmmmm yes 03:50 hmmmm we were supposed to have 0.4.5 out two weeks ago but people just forgot about it i guess 03:50 * ShadowNinja looks for bugs to fix 03:50 hmmmm hah.. it's okay, you don't need to 03:51 ShadowNinja got a simple one I could fix? 03:51 hmmmm no 03:51 hmmmm i'm talking about things that are critical bugs from new features that were added, not things we knew about 03:51 Vadtec VanessaE: im not sure, but i think teleport pipes work on the principle that they will transport anything thats teleported to their exact location 03:51 Vadtec so if the pipe isnt loaded, the objects will still rez at the right spot 03:51 hmmmm i appreciate the offer to help though 03:51 Vadtec and the telepipes will pick it up 03:51 sdzen the ones known about generally are complex/nobody wants to try to fix them or cares about them 03:51 VanessaE oh good 03:52 sokomine where is the bottom of the map exactly? and where will it start generating problems? 03:52 sdzen or crazy rare 03:52 sokomine and: re :-) 03:53 Vadtec VanessaE: I *think* thats how they work, based on reading the code and observation about what happens when i send to a pipe that isnt loaded 03:53 sdzen -31000? 03:53 sdzen i think 03:53 VanessaE -30912 I think 03:53 VanessaE (and +30927 or some such for the top) 03:53 sdzen hmmmm? 03:54 sdzen no nice numbers? 03:54 hmmmm yes, -31000 03:54 sdzen they used to be nice numbers 03:54 sdzen :) 03:54 hmmmm if you want to be precise, it depends on the chunk size that's set 03:54 sdzen true 03:54 sdzen but normal size would be about -31000 wouldn't it? 03:55 hmmmm about that, yeah 03:55 hmmmm the exact number is pretty unimportant 03:55 sokomine ok...so -30900 ought to be relativle safe 03:55 hmmmm the whole reason for the number 31000 is to be safe 03:56 sdzen I once built at -31000 03:56 sdzen so it should be safe 03:56 hmmmm the actual limitation is more like 32768 03:56 kaeza how do I enable the new liquids in conf? 03:56 VanessaE going through the oldest issues against minetest (engine), I see one or two here that would be trivial to attempt fixes, but we're not doing non-showstopper bugs right now I guess 03:56 kaeza also, does this work for lava et cetera? 03:57 sdzen well if this person is willing to work on them 03:57 sdzen don't turn them down :) 03:57 VanessaE hmmmm: maybe for 0.4.6 we can expand to 64-bit X/Z coords ;-) 03:57 VanessaE (maybe not) 03:57 kaeza VanessaE, +(2^64)-1 03:57 hmmmm it's liquid_finite = true 03:57 hmmmm also set liquid_update = 0.2 for a decent experience 03:57 kaeza hmmmm, thanks :) 03:57 hmmmm and yes, it works for anything that's "liquid" 03:58 Vadtec VanessaE: 32bit coords would be more than fine 03:58 hmmmm how about 16 bit coords 03:58 VanessaE yeah, but you know how I am - if it's worth doing, it's worth going for overkill :D 03:58 kaeza has anyone reached a state where 16 bit coords are a problem yet? 03:58 hmmmm people who think that's not enough obviously haven't seen how big that is 03:58 Vadtec VanessaE: agree 03:58 hmmmm no, they just teleport to the map boundaries for shits and giggles 03:58 sdzen ahem I see VanessaE has fallen for the if its double the original number 03:58 sdzen it must be good 03:58 kaeza I mean, has anyone experienced a truly full map? 03:58 VanessaE hmmmm: I've had MC folks tell me they've been out well beyond +/- 31000 on their maps 03:59 VanessaE sdzen: um, no I have not. 03:59 sdzen just walking though 03:59 sdzen never building that much 03:59 VanessaE kaeza: the problem isn't so much a map getting full - as much as the map getting *empty 03:59 Vadtec agreed VanessaE 03:59 VanessaE as in everyone gathering resources until there's just nothing left to play with 04:00 kaeza ah, good point :) 04:00 sdzen its never empty though is the thing 04:00 sokomine the maps just *feel* full because everything clusters around spawn. that's ok to some degree. outer parts are difficult to reach without teleport or mods that provide teleport 04:00 kaeza that said, dirt and sand are kind of scarce resources 04:00 VanessaE true 04:00 hmmmm that's why you should be able to set spawn 04:00 hmmmm why don't we have beds yet 04:01 sdzen because we are so damn stingy with minetest_game 04:01 sdzen and don't add shit 04:01 Vadtec my old MC buds are known for building on 500x500 plots of land 04:01 hmmmm i want a lot of features added into minetest_game, but i don't deal with that at all personally 04:01 Vadtec that can eat up a map quickly 04:01 hmmmm speaking of minecraft 04:01 kaeza you could say a minetest world is 50% air, 48% stone, and the rest is dirt and sand 04:01 hmmmm a short project for me after i do this ore stuff is a minecraft classic -> minetest map conversion utility 04:01 sokomine clay and sand where original reasons for my mod. i'm glad sapier implemented the traders in his mobf so i could build on them 04:02 hmmmm so i can get my original map back 04:02 sdzen the common practice when someone asks being "if you want the features so bad add it on your own!" 04:02 kaeza and of course, gravel and the other vanilla stuff :P 04:02 VanessaE hmmmm: it's been done I guess. 04:02 hmmmm has it? 04:02 sokomine other ressources like papyrus not re-growing are a problem as well. those problems can be solved if these things can regrow or be obtained in another way 04:02 VanessaE yeah, someone pointed me to that just the other day 04:02 hmmmm well if it has that's cool, i'll just use that 04:02 hmmmm if not i'll do it up real quick 04:02 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=70882#p70882 04:02 VanessaE there it is 04:02 hmmmm jar 04:02 hmmmm ugh 04:02 VanessaE it goes in via worldedit, but there it is 04:03 hmmmm i don't have java installed here 04:03 sokomine vadtec: with commands - yes. worldedit allows to fill a map quickly. else it takes a lot of time 04:03 Vadtec sokomine: no world edit 04:03 Vadtec they did it all by hand 04:03 sokomine really huge structures are easier to build with worldedit. doesn't help much if you can't see them entirely 04:03 Vadtec with loads of help from everyone 04:04 sdzen seen it done Vadtec 04:04 sdzen I don;t doubt you 04:04 sokomine hmmm: i wrote such a mod already 04:04 Vadtec the last project i worked on was a "university" that was 800x1000 04:04 hmmmm oh noooo 04:04 Vadtec i personally cleared a volume of 300x450x200 04:04 hmmmm please don't tell me i lost the map file 04:04 VanessaE Doyousketch2 is building a really beautiful cathedral on my server. 04:04 Vadtec that was about 40% air 04:05 sokomine no, my mod doesn't use worldedit. it just uses add_node like worldedit 04:05 VanessaE entirely by hand 04:05 Vadtec VanessaE: i saw that 04:05 Vadtec its awesome 04:05 sokomine it reads the level.dat exported by the wom client directly 04:05 VanessaE sokomine: have you taken to using L-systems to generate the houses yet? :) 04:05 hmmmm yeah but add_node.. 04:05 VanessaE (or at least, the framework) 04:05 hmmmm that'll probably take forever 04:05 hmmmm i'd rather install java and do that 04:06 sokomine vadtec: my university in desert city on redcrabs server is a lot smaller. mc classic projects tend to get larger...but that is partly because you can't go into so much detail there. everything apart from blocks...is a slab. as stair, to sit on, table, ... 04:07 hmmmm oh... 04:07 * VanessaE drops the banhammer on another form spammer. 04:07 sokomine vanessa: l-systems is not suitable for the houses i want 04:07 kaeza hmmmm, just asking, but in MC what is the "goal"? I mean, in (vanilla) MT, you chop a tree, dig a bit of cobble, search for iron, and finally get MESE. 04:07 hmmmm one thing, that has a level.dat, i distinctly remember there being a level.mine 04:07 VanessaE sokomine: I was thinking just of the bare frames and stuff, to cut down on how much time each house takes to generate 04:07 sokomine have a look at the .we files of the houses :-) they're not terribly complicated but more than what l-system currently may do... 04:07 hmmmm the goal is to kill the enderdragon 04:07 kaeza well, maybe "goal" is not the correct word... 04:07 VanessaE floors, walls, windows, that sorta thing 04:07 hmmmm "goal" 04:08 sokomine hmmm: no, taking forever is not the problem. griefs by mapgen digging holes in it are. sometimes. 04:08 Vadtec so anyways, 32bit coords would be nice, but 64bit cords would be plain awesome 04:08 sokomine and not having loaded enough areas. that as well provides a problem. the rest...works 04:08 sokomine just use my mod... 04:08 Vadtec cya tomorrow peeps, gonna go to bed 04:08 hmmmm hah... no thanks.. 04:08 hmmmm sorry 04:08 VanessaE night Vadtec 04:08 hmmmm besides, it probably won't work for .mine files 04:08 sokomine looks reasonably like mc classic. there are a few drawbacks which can't be avoided...e.g. lighting. it's just very diffrent... 04:08 hmmmm which is what i want to convert from 04:09 hmmmm hah with minecraft classic, anything that was occluded vertically was completely dark 04:09 sokomine hmm: level.mine and level.dat can iirc be converted somehow 04:09 hmmmm there was no light diffisuion or spread 04:10 VanessaE bbiab. time to go get my ass kicked at bowling :) 04:10 sokomine vanessa: the analysis of the area might take more time than the actual building :-/ i have to check if the area is really free (no player-built structures...just to make sure!) and exists entirely... 04:11 VanessaE sokomine: check if an area is free is easy: find_nodes_in_area, with a search key of "air". table.getn() on that, compare against whatever the total volume is you're looking at 04:11 VanessaE (so 10x10x10 box = 1000 nodes) 04:11 VanessaE if it's less than the exact volume, the area is not free. 04:11 kaeza VanessaE, U Y NO POST THE UPDATE IN HOMEDECOR THREAD? :( 04:11 VanessaE kaeza: I forgot? :) 04:11 VanessaE bbl 04:11 sokomine doesn't work that easy. sometimes houses are built into trees 04:11 kaeza k :P 04:11 sokomine er, into the hill. to some degree 04:12 sokomine speed seems less of a problem i think. there arn't that many houses 04:12 sokomine not even with the entire "city" generating...even that worked relatively well 04:13 Exio kaeza: the "history" in MC is.. get iron, craft an iron pickaxe, get diamonds, mine obsidian, go to the nether, get blaze rods for the eyes of ender, get enderpearls, get an ender portal, go to the end, kill the enderdragon and that :P 04:14 sokomine hmm: you could try to rename your level.mine files to level.dat.gz uncompress them and try to import them. ought to be not much work. trouble is: i found no way to determine the size of a mc classic map... 04:17 sokomine hmm: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4445 :-) and .mine and .dat may be the same format 04:21 hmmmm the uncompressed format of a minecraft classic map is really just the java object for a level in a serialized state 04:22 hmmmm the size of it is in what you'd call the "header" somewhere, obviously. 04:22 hmmmm but it's really not a header, it's just the internal representation of an object in java 04:22 hmmmm some file format huh 04:24 kaeza interesting, so you say that should the java serialization format change, all maps will be lost? 04:24 kaeza that's a really nice idea 04:24 hmmmm should it change and old ones not be supported for some reason, yes 04:25 kaeza IMHO, game data files should not depend on language/environment file formats 04:26 kaeza unless ofc the language/environment provides backwards compatibility 04:26 kaeza that happened somewhat when allegro reached 4.0 04:27 kaeza old (3.x) datafiles had problems loading 04:27 hmmmm minecraft really just took the lazy way out 04:27 hmmmm but you can say so did we (by we i mean celeron, not me) 04:28 Exio minecraft's engine is slow as hell, and most of stuff in it is very slow 04:28 kaeza it's like distributing images as BMP 04:28 sokomine yes. i didn't worry much about the data in the java header since i had no idea how to read and interpret it in lua - so i just skipped it. which worked fine. except that this way i didn't get the imformation about the map dimensions 04:28 Exio the only thing in it what isn't "slow" is the client-side prediction 04:31 sokomine the slowness of minecraft classic was one reason for me to look for alternatives. the other was that i wanted more...the mc rollback equivalent wasn't working, and other things would have been fine there as well. but including them in classic would probably not have made much sense 04:39 kaeza I just wanted to play this game "Minecraft" that everyone was babbling about. II had no java nad OpenGL support for my card suxxed; when I got a better PC (and a good gfx card + driver) I has some stupid errors accessing the online version for testing. Decided to look for free alternatives, and here I am :) 04:40 Exio gfx? 04:40 kaeza graphics 04:40 Exio ah :P 04:41 Exio i only has a gt 610 04:41 VanessaE whew 04:41 kaeza wb V 04:41 VanessaE yup, as predicted, I got my ass kicked from here to Canarsie. 04:41 kaeza heh 04:42 kaeza hey Niko! Let's go bowling! 04:43 VanessaE 204 in the first game, 177 in the second. that's a far cry from my average :-S 04:44 kaeza you suck :P 04:45 VanessaE yup 04:45 VanessaE my average is around 220 or so, high score of 254. 04:46 VanessaE good workout though, whether I suck or not :) 04:46 VanessaE Abe tromped my ass left right and sideways tonight 04:47 NekoGloop|Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLUmVZVw1Ow :3 04:56 sokomine what kind of game? 04:57 VanessaE me? bowling 05:00 kaeza VanessaE, those inventory images look lovely :) 05:01 kaeza you should design a new full default background :D 05:01 VanessaE default background? 05:01 kaeza for the inventory formspec 05:01 VanessaE oh 05:01 VanessaE you mean like details behind the items 05:01 VanessaE I thought about it 05:01 kaeza yes 05:02 VanessaE I'm still trying to figure out just what to draw 05:02 kaeza I liked the one Mito made 05:02 VanessaE link? 05:02 kaeza a sec 05:04 kaeza a sorry, it was by ashenk69 05:04 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4001 05:04 VanessaE oh yeah, seen it 05:07 kaeza also, I'm a bit clueless on the GUI implementation; is it custom or is Irrlicht handling everything? 05:07 kaeza like Drag&Drop, etc 05:08 VanessaE well it takes a couple of minor tweaks to furnace, chest, inventory formspecs, but I guess MT hands it off to irrlicht 05:08 VanessaE dunno though 05:08 VanessaE oh you mean formspecs overall? I think they're managed mostly by irrlicht 05:08 kaeza yes 05:08 kaeza I also mean the drawing of stuff 05:09 VanessaE dunno 05:09 kaeza like for example, can you modify how base inventory slots are drawn? 05:09 kaeza ah ok 05:09 kaeza just being curious :) 05:09 VanessaE good question 05:10 kaeza I mean, ro make for example embossed background 05:10 VanessaE OH 05:10 VanessaE yeah that's easily done 05:10 VanessaE simple images 05:11 VanessaE I wonder if maybe I should take some HST photos for the formspec backgrounds 05:11 kaeza yeah. I mean, the current inventory looks like a sheet of paper put over the game 05:11 kaeza it gives not the actual impression of a "window" 05:12 VanessaE right 05:12 VanessaE you can fake that easily, but of course it is guaranteed not to blend into anyone else's setup but your own :) 05:13 kaeza yeah, simple images should work, but I mean not scaling things, but rather draw "highlights" and "shadows" on the formspec borders 05:14 kaeza aw nvm, I have no clue about how to program using Irrlicht anyway :( 05:43 VanessaE hrm 05:43 VanessaE I need some inspiration for those images.. 05:44 jordan4ibanez Ok 05:45 jordan4ibanez I'm trying to ask a guy if I can release a mod of his car 05:45 jordan4ibanez Do you think this will get him to say yes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PF0VVxjJ 05:54 kaeza_ jordan4ibanez, what game is that? 05:55 jordan4ibanez Rigs of Rods 05:55 kaeza_ ah 05:55 kaeza_ been looking for a good racing game for linux 05:55 kaeza_ TORCS is just shit 05:55 jordan4ibanez You'll have to compile it, it's a super simulation 05:55 jordan4ibanez Here is that car, finished http://i.imgur.com/LG9FnQm.jpg 05:56 kaeza_ looks awesome 05:57 jordan4ibanez I know, I'm going to like shit my pants if this guy says I can release it. 05:57 kaeza_ heh 06:00 kaeza_ aw hell naw I ain't DL'ing 2GB of files in my current net condition :( 06:01 jordan4ibanez Then you don't get to play, it's a mission to get rigs of rods, but the payout is insane 06:03 kaeza_ I guess I'll have to stick playing Gran Turismo 2 on ePSXe 06:05 M|Infinity_69 Hi 06:05 MinetestBot hi M|Infinity_69 06:06 M|Infinity_69 Nobody here huh :/ 06:07 M|Infinity_69 Thought so 06:07 M|Infinity_69 !tw shibby2142 06:07 MinetestBot @SGCBarbierian @machinima_com yep legit (@shibby2142) 06:07 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/0hyH5mS.gif 06:07 M|Infinity_69 Hi J 06:08 M|Infinity_69 M = mobile 06:08 jordan4ibanez hi m 06:10 jordan4ibanez Goodnight 06:19 M|Infinity_69 Hey, im back 06:19 M|Infinity_69 !g symbian nokia n youtube app 06:19 MinetestBot M|Infinity_69: http://mynokiablog.com/2010/12/08/official-youtube-app-available-for-symbian3/ 06:23 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:23 MinetestBot hi crackerenherbe 06:23 kaeza_ don't you hate when there are 200 users in a channel and not a single one is on at the moment? 06:23 kaeza_ I don't mean THIS channel :P 06:24 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:25 kaeza_ entered #winehq, asked a question, and not a single fck was given 06:25 kaeza_ and there are 184 users in there 06:25 kaeza_ that's GREAT support 06:26 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:27 kaeza_ heh 06:29 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:30 kaeza_ was the TTF font support merged to master? 06:30 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:30 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:30 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:30 kaeza_ yup 06:31 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:31 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:31 MiJyn crackerenherbe, I can help you ^^ 06:31 MiJyn so what's the error? 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:32 MiJyn ok, what is it? 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:32 MiJyn right 06:32 MiJyn ok 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:32 MiJyn install a display manager :P 06:32 MiJyn I use lightdm 06:32 MiJyn it's in the AUR 06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:33 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:33 MiJyn try slim 06:33 MiJyn or gdm 06:33 MiJyn or kdm 06:33 kaeza crackerenherbe, you'd be better installing a user-friendly distro 06:33 MiJyn or lxdm (might be the best option, actually) 06:33 kaeza like Puppy or Ubuntu 06:33 MiJyn kaeza, haha, if he wants arch, I think it's a good idea :D 06:33 MiJyn (sorry, I'm extremely biased towards it, and very biased against ubuntu and family) 06:34 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:34 kaeza Arch is too bare-bones for someone installing his first linux distro 06:34 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:34 MiJyn crackerenherbe, yeah, none of those are window managers, they are what we call "display managers" (they are like login screens) 06:34 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:35 MiJyn they pretty much manage the display, so you gotta choose one well. I like lightdm because it's nice and pretty, but lxdm is very nice too, very small, and does the trick perfectly well :) 06:36 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:36 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:36 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:36 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:36 MiJyn crackerenherbe, je connais un peu le francais si ca peu t'aider :) 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 MiJyn I see 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 MiJyn est-ce que on peut parler en PM? 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:37 crackerenherbe [deleted] 06:39 VanessaE there. 06:39 VanessaE HDX updated with new formspec images :-) 06:41 kaeza \o/ 06:41 kaeza now post the homedecor update :P 06:43 MiJyn honestly, c55 should make the formspec like in blockplanet 06:44 MiJyn where you can customize it by tiles 06:44 MiJyn like a tile for a button 06:44 MiJyn THEMES 06:44 MiJyn that's what I meant 06:44 MiJyn lol 06:44 MiJyn that way things would be SO much simpler 06:44 MiJyn and so much more customizable 06:44 MiJyn etc... 06:46 VanessaE kaeza: you just craft a steel ingot along with whatever needs locked? like a chest upgrade? 06:46 kaeza VanessaE, space photos? O.o 06:46 kaeza yup 06:46 VanessaE ok 06:46 VanessaE and yeah, they seem to work for me anyway 06:46 kaeza dang, I need to update HDX 06:47 kaeza I have one like from when I joined the community :P 06:47 kaeza about 4 or 5 months ago 06:47 VanessaE kaeza: added an appropriate note to the homedecor page :) 06:48 kaeza great :) very much appreciated :) 06:50 VanessaE as for the space images, I chose them because I couldn't figure out anything else that seemed to fit 06:50 VanessaE lack of good inspiration, but they look nice and they're public domain :-) 06:51 Aqua_sad Hello 06:51 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad 06:51 VanessaE evening Aqua 06:52 Aqua_sad Sorta pissed about what happened to Gameboom 06:52 VanessaE I saw on the forums just now 06:52 VanessaE terrible :( 06:52 VanessaE THIS is why I have node_ownership on my server 06:52 kaeza hello Aqua_sad 06:53 VanessaE (plus rollback is enabled, not that it ever works for me) 06:53 kaeza I just saw that too, pretty depressing :( 06:54 kaeza VanessaE, BTW, now updating HDX ^_^ 06:54 VanessaE go for it :-) 06:54 kaeza 128px version :) 06:54 VanessaE I think you'll like the latest changes 06:54 kaeza my card (and my inet plan) can't handle the larger packs 06:55 kaeza new mods supported? 06:55 VanessaE I don't have enough RAM to run the 512px size 06:55 VanessaE look at the mods list :) 06:56 Aqua_sad Diamonds would be nice] 06:56 kaeza BTW, I first thought of making the locked stuff use a slightly modified texture for the front (showing some kind of "lock" 06:57 Aqua_sad Do you know why Zeg9 has been away for over a month? 06:57 kaeza much like the locked chest 06:57 VanessaE kaeza: actually I was surprised you didn't do that 06:58 VanessaE Aqua_sad: no idea 06:58 VanessaE as for diamonds, I might add support for it at some point 06:58 Aqua_sad Zeg9 made some awesome mods. 06:58 Aqua_sad UFO, ingame switching, etc. 06:59 VanessaE I have the UFO mod anyway :) 06:59 kaeza VanessaE, you think I should do it? 06:59 kaeza I thought about TP authors 06:59 kaeza If(and users) 06:59 kaeza -If 06:59 VanessaE only if you're up to it 06:59 Aqua_sad Hello 06:59 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad 07:00 Aqua_sad Hi 07:00 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad 07:00 kaeza should I eat you? 07:00 MinetestBot kaeza: You decide 07:00 kaeza ^_^ 07:00 Aqua_sad How does it work? 07:00 kaeza the SPAM will go OVER NINE THOUSAND!! 07:02 kaeza Aqua_sad, I guess simple regex matches and some hardcoded strings 07:03 Aqua_sad should I eat you? 07:03 MinetestBot Aqua_sad: You decide 07:04 Aqua_sad should I talk to you? 07:04 Aqua_sad Well that doesnt work 07:04 kaeza lol according to the HDX pack topic, you have a slightly outdated version of pipeworks 07:12 MiJyn bye all 07:13 VanessaE night 07:13 VanessaE kaeza: correct :) 07:13 VanessaE a few textures need updated and I have been incredibly lazy lately :) 07:13 VanessaE anything nodebox-based tends to be a bit of a bitch to texture :) 07:14 kaeza ah ok :) 07:14 kaeza been playing my old 0.3.1 world in 0.4.4 07:14 kaeza guess what happens when you mix map generators :) 07:15 VanessaE the map blows up :) 07:16 VanessaE or at least, cliffs galore 07:19 kaeza yup :) 07:19 kaeza uploading some screenies right now 07:19 kaeza also, my old house's floor is made of sand on top of a big cliff :) 07:19 kaeza :( * 07:19 kaeza I don't dare touch anything anywhere near it lol 07:20 VanessaE eek 07:20 VanessaE time for worldedit. 07:20 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_444767519.jpg 07:20 kaeza MAP KABOOM 07:20 VanessaE yup 07:21 VanessaE time for me to get to bed, falling asleep at the keys 07:21 kaeza good night V :) 07:21 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_444756100.jpg 07:22 Aqua_sad Good night 07:22 Aqua_sad Kaeza have you finished your game? 07:22 kaeza ...game? 07:22 Aqua_sad Thought you were working on this game.? 07:23 Aqua_sad Legend of Cosmo 07:23 kaeza you mean my independent game? no 07:23 kaeza ah 07:23 kaeza no :( 07:24 kaeza been working on other stuff. I'm really losing interest on that one 07:24 kaeza I'll go with sosmething...simpler 07:24 kaeza -s 07:24 Aqua_sad :( 07:24 kaeza after all, I'm the only one doing the coding :/ 07:25 kaeza +graphics 07:25 Aqua_sad Log onto 0gb.us's server 07:25 Aqua_sad Please 07:26 kaeza addr:port 07:26 Aqua_sad C'mon 07:26 kaeza ? 07:27 Aqua_sad 0gb.us 30000 07:27 Aqua_sad brb dinner 07:47 Oblivion1500 Hello, anyone have a good place i can look for a working irc proxy that is not banned in freenode? 07:50 Aqua_sad Hello 07:50 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad 07:50 Oblivion1500 hi 07:50 MinetestBot hi Oblivion1500 09:28 kaeza anyone interested in this? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-intllib 09:28 kaeza It's a bit basic right now 10:00 Oblivion1500 anyone know a good irc proxy to use, the one i was using does not work any more... 10:08 kaeza cool! finite liquids are now able to fill up underwater caves ^_^ 10:09 kaeza instead of the old behavior where you would get some waterfalls 11:16 Akerok hi 11:16 MinetestBot hi Akerok 11:35 Akerok Does anyone know what upgrades there are for the MV furnace in the technic mod? 11:52 kaeza Akerok, currently none IIRC 11:52 kaeza HV tier was not even started yet 11:53 kaeza ...or was it? 11:58 Akerok Ok. I was wondering what I could use it for. 12:06 M|Infinity_69 Hi 12:06 M|Infinity_69 Hey 12:06 M|Infinity_69 Omg, i got ignored 12:07 jin_xi no, the bot has quit 12:07 M|Infinity_69 Wait no, he isnt here :/ 12:07 M|Infinity_69 But y? 12:15 Deivan Hello. How I access a single caracter in the string? 12:16 Deivan character... 12:17 jin_xi hi Deivan, can you give an example of the type of strings you're working with? 12:17 Deivan abc... 12:17 Deivan I need the b 12:17 Deivan The number 2 12:18 Deivan a="abc" 12:18 Deivan a2] 12:18 Deivan a[2] don't work... 12:18 Deivan I receive a nil... 12:18 Deivan string.sub(a,1,2) don't work to... 12:18 Deivan Ops. 12:19 Deivan string.sub(a,2,1) 12:19 jin_xi hmm, that was what i was gonna say 12:19 Deivan byte return single but the ascii code, no the character... 12:19 thexyz a:sub(2,2) 12:20 Deivan Ok... 12:20 Deivan Testing... 12:20 thexyz see http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial 12:23 Deivan Is it, is working now. Thanks. 12:23 Deivan AFK 12:30 ADFENO Hi all. :D 12:34 Akerok I cannot find what the injector is used for in the technic mod. 12:35 Akerok Does anyone know? 12:39 kaeza hmm 12:39 kaeza I think it's an old object 12:39 kaeza it used to store stuff in chests 12:39 kaeza or smth like that 12:40 kaeza it's now done by means of transport tubes 12:42 kaeza back 12:44 Akerok Alright. I wasn't sure. Thank you. 13:59 helpmeimRagnar hey guys, i need quick help 13:59 helpmeimRagnar how to make a .tar.bz2 archive in Xubuntu 13:59 helpmeimRagnar terminal 14:00 helpmeimRagnar VanessaE 14:00 helpmeimRagnar jon_xi 14:00 helpmeimRagnar jin_xi* 14:00 sdzen google? 14:00 sdzen :) 14:00 helpmeimRagnar didnt help much 14:00 helpmeimRagnar im in a hurry 14:00 helpmeimRagnar please 14:00 helpmeimRagnar :D 14:00 helpmeimRagnar wait 14:00 helpmeimRagnar no need 14:00 helpmeimRagnar he got it 14:00 helpmeimRagnar bye 14:01 helpmeimRagnar sdzen, please kick me 14:01 helpmeimRagnar :D 14:01 helpmeimRagnar wait you cant.. 14:01 helpmeimRagnar ok, bye 14:07 kaeza tar -cfj ragnar_chat.tar.bz2 helpmeimRagnar.chat ? 14:26 Kacey hello all 14:26 kaeza hi Kacey 14:28 * Kacey wants to shoot MinetestBot 14:31 kaeza he's not here :) 14:34 Kacey good 14:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tBJNYdHPcDE 14:35 Kacey everybody do the flop! 14:52 JesseH Anyone else feel weird, coming from Minecraft to Minetest? Like gameplay feels sort of odd? Anyone else or is that just me :P 14:53 Kacey nope (i never played MC lol) 14:54 JesseH :P Well I was mainly asking people that have played MC 14:54 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zFZm2wsmQ do the flop 14:55 * JesseH does a dance. 14:55 Kacey oops wrong link lol 14:55 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJNYdHPcDE do the flop 14:55 JesseH xD 14:56 Kacey i know right? 14:56 Kacey lmfao 14:56 Kacey *flop* 14:56 * JesseH does the flop. 14:57 JesseH Kacey, you are now my new best friend. 14:57 Kacey lol 14:57 Kacey i gtg 14:57 JesseH :( 15:01 kaeza hey JesseH 15:01 JesseH Hey kaeza :D 15:01 kaeza oh RBA isn't here :( 15:02 * kaeza puts a kitten on NekoGloop|Laptop's keyboard 15:02 kaeza >:D 15:02 NekoGloop|Laptop nbsglfsdkjlbjfda;kgnfdpijahbndga.hfda/.kjghfda;igfdaoingreapibneajt;knizojt;hgda'oibfa'hgireo' 15:02 JesseH typo -_- 15:02 JesseH obv 15:02 kaeza how's it going Neko? 15:03 NekoGloop|Laptop Busy. 15:10 kaeza hey brandy_ 15:26 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on kaeza's head 15:26 * JesseH is thinking of starting a PvP server, with guns and what not 15:28 * kaeza takes the kitten and hugs it :3 15:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:44 JesseH Sup PilzAdam 15:44 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a mushroom on PilzAdam's head 15:44 * PilzAdam puts a kitten on NekoGloop|Laptop 15:45 * Calinou puts a centered wooden tile on JesseH's head 15:45 * NekoGloop|Laptop mews 15:45 JesseH Jesus Calinou I see you many places 15:45 JesseH stop invading my channels D: 15:46 Calinou * [JesseH] #minetest 15:46 JesseH moar channel I know it 15:51 Calinou ##linux? 15:51 Calinou :> 15:52 Calinou no, I don't go to ##linux 15:53 JesseH :P idk Just seen you around 15:53 JesseH octaforge 15:53 JesseH :D 15:56 * VanessaE peeks in 15:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: regarding your default inventory formspec images patch, can you also include the default creative mode formspec, and push that to master? 15:57 VanessaE it seems to work as expected 15:58 Exio images patch? 15:58 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/32a552cae18067b805d47643ac619604304b16a3 15:58 VanessaE that 15:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, the problem is that the formspec stuff is just a complete mess 15:59 Exio wow, nice :D 15:59 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72822#p72822 16:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: problem? It seems to work nicely at my end? I even made some nice release images, and updates for HDX also, and worked with RBA last night. I was able to match everything up with a lot of effort 16:00 VanessaE (with RBA to do the same to Unified Inventory that is) 16:00 VanessaE there's nothing wrong with your code afaict. 16:01 PilzAdam read the forum post I linked 16:01 VanessaE I read it. 16:02 VanessaE I had the same problem last night, but I was able to finagle it into working properly. 16:02 PilzAdam also: updated version of the commit: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/b395f297759f5d1a4b532b92c7deccbbae2d288f 16:02 VanessaE one thing that will help is if you separate the background image from the actual inventory slots - overlay one on top of the other and it gets much easier to align everything 16:03 PilzAdam (note that I changed the license to CC BY-SA, so you have to credit me in your mod) 16:03 jin_xi hmm, wouldnt it make much more sense to have a background for both the formspec itself and the elements and not muck about the positioning 16:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: I didn't make any mod, I just made images to fit your code :) 16:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you update the link in your [texture] post to: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/b395f297759f5d1a4b532b92c7deccbbae2d288f 16:11 VanessaE sure thing 16:11 VanessaE done. 16:12 VanessaE don't forget to make a creative inventory image :) 16:13 PilzAdam and now give credit to me :-p 16:13 VanessaE why? 16:13 VanessaE I didn't use your images, and didn't make any code 16:14 VanessaE those are mine, hand-drawn to fit the resolution used in yours 16:14 VanessaE (except drawn at twice the detail, I noticed yours were scaled) 16:14 PilzAdam ... look at the crafting arrow 16:14 jordach ugh 16:14 VanessaE well if you like 16:15 jordach i broke my system last night, tyvm nvidia experimental 16:15 jordach back to nvidia 96 16:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, it took me several hours to do all the stuff correctly 16:15 VanessaE jordach: you suck :) 16:15 jordach VanessaE, GeForce 6 Series here 16:16 jordach anyways, rebooting :) 16:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah, it took a couple of hours last night working on ones for RBA's Unified Inventory, same alignment issues you ran into with yours 16:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, also, have you seen the topic of -dev? 16:17 PilzAdam "== FEATURE FREEZE FOR 0.4.5 IN EFFECT ==" 16:17 PilzAdam I dont merge it now 16:18 VanessaE oh right, forgot about the feature freeze, but I wonder if that applies to minetest_game or not 16:18 jordach there 16:18 jordach THANK FUCK FOR THAT. 16:18 PilzAdam it does 16:18 * jordach also would like to thank John D. Williams 16:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, fair enough 16:19 VanessaE but don't forget the creative mode image :-) I named mine default_creative_inventory.png 16:19 PilzAdam I will name it differentyl :-p 16:20 jordach differently* 16:20 jin_xi thanks for fixing that, jordach 16:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: bah. 16:22 jordach oh, and heres the bastard: http://i.imgur.com/KyPkDvu.png 16:23 VanessaE you can force that from the command line 16:24 kaeza hello all 16:25 VanessaE hey kaeza, Neko. 16:25 jordach hey NekoGloop|meow 16:25 NekoGloop|meow lol... 16:25 NekoGloop|meow Screwing with my bluetooth, attempting to connect a wii remote. 16:26 VanessaE have fun with that :) 16:26 jordach NekoGloop|meow, you'll get "pissed" off soon 16:26 NekoGloop|meow It's connected, I just have to get my computer to interpret it. 16:30 NekoGloop|meow Oh, hey, there's a way to set it up for mouse. Sweet. 16:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: I do NOT appreciate the accusation of just copying your images. You should know by now that I don't do shit like that without saying so. 16:34 kaeza Minetest: Y U NO CREATE EPIC MOUNTAINS LIKE -DELTA?? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981384811.jpg 16:35 VanessaE kaeza: I know, right? 16:35 VanessaE I miss seeing formations like those 16:35 jin_xi kaeza: different mapgen wich might make a reappearence at some point in the future 16:35 kaeza jin_xi, that would be awesome 16:36 kaeza but -delta had some weird formations, namely sky islands :P 16:36 kaeza also: cobblestone trees :D 16:36 VanessaE can the existing v6 be coaxed into making similar formations with those various settings 16:36 jin_xi you can easily make cobble trees if you like 16:37 VanessaE I wonder if it can, I mean. 16:37 jin_xi VanessaE: idk, but i think there are different procedures involved 16:37 VanessaE I assumed. 16:37 jin_xi i also think they can be ported to the new framework, which supports different mapgens 16:38 kaeza take a look at this one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981697002.jpg 16:38 jin_xi i believe that specific phenomenom is due to usage of 3d noise 16:39 NekoGloop|meow kaeza: did you know that there's a game maker extension for the wii remote? 16:39 kaeza NekoGloop|meow, :O 16:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, could you host a server of this? http://www.zimg.eu/i/2631271481 16:39 PilzAdam its the NMPR: http://dev.minetest.net/Core_Architecture 16:40 kaeza everyone is making wonderful games in latest GM, and I'm stuck creating stupid games in GM 5.3A 16:40 VanessaE holy moly, that's old 16:41 Calinou WTF is the item near the torch? 16:41 Calinou on this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981384811.jpg 16:41 PilzAdam a rat 16:41 VanessaE looks like a rat 16:41 Calinou rats are brown and have 1 yellow pixel 16:42 VanessaE as I recall the image gets deformed because it was non-square 16:42 kaeza and another one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981724009.jpg 16:42 PilzAdam minetest-delta is too high quality for me; ill stick in NMPR :-) 16:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: I think I will pass on that NMPR thing - with something that old I wouldn't even know where to begin just to test it :) 16:42 kaeza Calinou, yep, it's a rat 16:43 Calinou VanessaE: it was deformed but it still had 1 yellow pixel and not white-ish ones 16:43 kaeza also, there were no textures for swords yet :P 16:43 Calinou so you had acustom texture :P 16:43 jordach "with something that old I wouldn't even know where to begin just to test it :)" -- VanessaE if youre *that* old, then you should know how to run it 16:43 VanessaE jordach: I've never touched anything prior to 0.3.1, let alone compiled it :) 16:44 * jordach saw : as ! 16:44 jordach VanessaE, you know my humor is "wrong" 16:45 VanessaE Calinou: did you see the HDX version of your latest wooden tiles? 16:45 Calinou no 16:45 VanessaE (more blocks I mean) 16:45 Calinou will do :P 16:45 kaeza VanessaE, on that matter, any chance on making water texture darker? :P 16:45 Calinou "You'll need 64 bits and 6 to 8 GB to use the 512px size!" => minetest uses ~3GB of RAM with 512× textures 16:46 Calinou so 4GB of RAM should be enough 16:46 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, I'm not entirely happy with the water 16:46 kaeza it kinda breaks the suspension of disbelief 16:46 VanessaE Calinou: try using 512px and sign onto my server -> swap hell. 16:46 kaeza if there is such thing in MT 16:47 Calinou VanessaE: I'll try :p 16:48 VanessaE Calinou: hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. You'll need it after your hard drive bursts into flames :) 16:48 jordach PC Fried. 16:48 jordach inb4 Calinou's PC diesa 16:48 jordach dies* 16:48 Calinou VanessaE: reading 155MB of files is easy for an HDD... 16:49 VanessaE Calinou: swapping isn't :) 16:49 Calinou 12GB RAM :> 16:49 jordach VanessaE, so... how many writes does your SSD have left? 16:49 VanessaE you didn't say you had 12 :) 16:49 kaeza MT is taking 2.5 Gigs in 128px 16:49 VanessaE jordach: it has around 98% of its lifespan left. 16:49 kaeza so I guess512px would be that * 16? 16:49 jordach BULLSHIT. 16:49 VanessaE jordach: no shit. 16:50 VanessaE gah, I can never remember where that is among all the SMART data 16:50 jordach EFI? 16:51 * jordach runs sudo apt-get autoremove 16:51 jordach cleaning time! 16:52 VanessaE kaeza: how's this look? http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_water.png 16:52 kaeza hmm 16:52 jordach looking 16:52 jordach nice 16:52 kaeza looks just right :) 16:52 jordach really nice 16:53 * kaeza is still amazed at how the cobblestone texture tiles perfectly :) 16:54 Calinou VanessaE: looks like you didn't update changelog.txt for a while :P 16:54 VanessaE Calinou: oh? strange, I plug in a new entry every time I update HDX. 16:55 Calinou JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 62, caller expects 80 16:55 VanessaE the file must not be getting updated. I'll fix it later. 16:55 Calinou installing libjpeg8-dev and removing libjpeg62-dev 16:55 Calinou they conflict :| 16:56 jordach Calinou, youre a driver man no? 16:56 khonkhortisan print(minetest.setting_get("mg_flags")) is wrong. It tells me "trees, caves, v6_biome_blend" when map_meta.txt has "mg_flags = flat" 16:56 Calinou still doesn't work 16:56 Calinou jordach: no? 16:56 kaeza Calinou, at least they warn you and don't outright crash like when mixing Lua 5.1/5.2 libs :) 16:56 Calinou /set mg_flags flat 16:56 Calinou quit current game and crash :P 16:57 khonkhortisan I've set in in the map, isn't that enough? 16:57 Calinou kaeza: yes but jpg textures don't load :P 16:57 jordach Calinou, since my system fucked me in the ass, my GPU is no longer remembered 16:57 jordach (and additional drivers dont help!) 16:57 khonkhortisan huh. It's not. 16:57 Calinou jordach: how did you do that? O_o 16:57 VanessaE kaeza: updated in git. 16:58 Calinou maybe ask on the ubuntu forums 16:58 jordach Calinou, experimental went mental 16:58 kaeza VanessaE, DL'ing :) 16:58 khonkhortisan :( I don't want it in minetest.conf 16:58 * jordach right now is using noveau 16:59 Calinou too bad MSI doesn't want to make afterburner for linux 16:59 jordach and i have broken packages 16:59 Calinou nouveau + overclocking would be outright awesome :P 16:59 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: setting_get only reads from minetest.conf 17:00 khonkhortisan So I need to put in some file reading stuff to get to map_meta.txt 17:00 Calinou recompiled, textures work now 17:01 ShadowNinja yes 17:01 Calinou 1135MB of my VRAM are used... running trackmania and minetest with HDX 512× 17:02 webdesigner97 hi! 17:02 Calinou VanessaE: I find the still water animation a bit too "quiet", it's almost invisible :P 17:02 Calinou hi webdesigner97 17:03 kaeza VanessaE, a bit darker would look better IMHO 17:03 VanessaE Calinou: fixed the changelog. also, I meant for that animation to be very subtle. 17:03 jordach Calinou, SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 17:03 kaeza jordach, sudo rm -fr /* 17:03 kaeza :) 17:04 VanessaE kaeza: darker yet? ok 17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/2': Operation not permitted 17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/1': Operation not permitted 17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/0': Operation not permitted 17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/ptmx': Operation not permitted 17:05 thexyz wait, did you run it? 17:05 jordach thexyz, got a soloution to my fucked nvidia package? 17:05 kaeza VanessaE, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_479884867.jpg 17:06 thexyz kaeza: looks like a huge bubble wrap 17:06 thexyz jordach: no idea, but you definetly shouldn't rm -rf /* 17:07 jordach what does it do? 17:07 kaeza remove force recursive anything in root 17:07 jordach kaeza, IOU 1x minetest map 17:07 VanessaE kaeza: try it now. 17:08 VanessaE I think it looks perfect now 17:08 kaeza k 17:08 kaeza BTW I hope he seriously didn't take my command seriously lol 17:08 Calinou VanessaE: i am swaur server 17:08 thexyz kaeza: it seems he did 17:09 Calinou heh, "load PNG: not really a png" 17:09 kaeza :/ 17:09 VanessaE Calinou: eh? 17:09 Calinou VanessaE: I swapped :P 17:09 VanessaE oh. 17:09 VanessaE I warned you. 17:09 Calinou how can a pack eat 12GB of RAM ;-; 17:09 VanessaE blame c55 :) 17:11 VanessaE celeron55: any opinions on that? :) 17:11 * Calinou spotted a mistake in the french translation 17:12 kaeza 512x512x1200? 17:12 VanessaE 1200? 17:12 VanessaE what are you doing, texturing a 3d solid? :) 17:12 kaeza my bad, 2013 :D 17:13 Jordach there 17:13 VanessaE where? :) 17:14 * Jordach slaps kaeza 17:14 kaeza Jordach, BTW I hope he seriously didn't take my command seriously lol 17:14 kaeza aww sowwy 17:14 Jordach kaeza, i recently switched 17:14 Jordach ITS A FUCKING GOOD THING that my MEDIA drive DIDNT GET RM'D 17:15 * Jordach warms up gparted 17:15 Calinou VanessaE: about 300MB of RAM are used with misa :P 17:15 VanessaE kaeza: waiting for your opinion on that revised water 17:15 VanessaE Calinou: terrible ain't it 17:15 kaeza waiting for locked up MT client to give up 17:15 kaeza :) 17:15 kaeza ah there 17:16 kaeza VanessaE, excellent :) 17:16 * Jordach reformats sda5 17:16 Jordach kaeza, you also pancaked my MINETEST WORLD 17:17 thexyz lesson learned 17:17 Jordach ./ignore kaeza all 17:17 thexyz now you won't immediately run commands people post 17:17 Jordach (if you have something useful to say, fuck you.) 17:17 thexyz like this one 17:17 thexyz perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see' 17:17 kaeza Jordach, sorry, I thought you knew that was the classic "delete system32" joke of the Unix world 17:18 * jin_xi is tempted 17:18 kaeza actually, more than that :( 17:18 Jordach kaeza, luckily i can reinstall 17:19 Jordach also, VERY LUCKILY theres a map backup, when I JUST STARTED. 17:19 Jordach (which also has my TP) 17:20 Jordach can i murder kaeza? 17:20 jin_xi thexyz: i like this part :-@ 17:20 kaeza thexyz, just out of curiosity, what does that do? 17:20 thexyz try it! 17:20 thexyz rm -rf / 17:20 kaeza nope 17:20 * ShadowNinja is curious as to what that does 17:20 khonkhortisan I can't read perl like that 17:20 thexyz without *, iirc 17:20 khonkhortisan it looks like random stuff 17:21 thexyz so it won't work in modern systems 17:21 khonkhortisan might be a fork bomb 17:21 Jordach OH SHIT. 17:21 thexyz nah, fork bomb is easier 17:21 khonkhortisan much shorter 17:21 thexyz :(){ :|:& };: 17:21 thexyz in bash 17:21 khonkhortisan yeah 17:21 khonkhortisan overloads the colon, then runs it, releasing it from the terminal 17:22 Calinou VanessaE: btw, I'm getting low framerates on your server... 110% of my CPU is used when I have about 55FPS 17:22 * khonkhortisan actually tried that once, thinking he could kill it fast enough 17:22 Calinou (out of 800%, 8 threads) 17:22 khonkhortisan it was a near-instant freeze 17:22 VanessaE Calinou: moretrees is probably causing it - you're probably out of meshbuffer indexes. 17:22 khonkhortisan funnier would be :(){:|:&}; it's a trap 17:23 Calinou no warning in the console 17:23 VanessaE Calinou: dunno then 17:25 Calinou maybe less polygons could be drawn by drawing touching faces once, maybe they're being rendered twice right now 17:25 Calinou (for leaves & stuff) 17:26 VanessaE try turning off fancy leaves 17:26 khonkhortisan clouds are meshes too 17:26 khonkhortisan which reminds me, that's why we can't have server-side rain 17:28 Calinou VanessaE: is it just me or did you disable clientside block placement prediction on your server? 17:28 VanessaE I did not. 17:28 VanessaE btw, do you have image preload turned on in your client? 17:30 Calinou no 17:32 ShadowNinja I have also noticed that all placement prediction is disabled in latest 17:32 ShadowNinja jeija's patch seems like to only one that could have done it 17:33 khonkhortisan I haven't noticed 17:33 kaeza I noticed that too 17:33 kaeza placing blocks is a lot slower 17:37 * ShadowNinja disables fork-bomb 17:37 * john_minetest makes a spoon-bomb 17:41 * NekoGloop|meow makes a plastic-fork-bomb 17:48 khonkhortisan How _does_ one disable fork-bomb? 17:49 NekoGloop|meow By uninstalling your terminal. 17:49 khonkhortisan not by limiting the processess per program? 17:52 ShadowNinja add a limit in /etc/security/limits.conf, see here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-limiting-user-process.html 17:59 ShadowNinja maybe this should be false: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L3R202 18:13 kaeza wow HELLO_IM_DEATH is banned from the forums 18:15 khonkhortisan preventative measure 18:16 ShadowNinja hmm, this always fails: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L0R2535 18:16 kaeza what did he do this time? 18:16 * kaeza is stalking the forums 18:16 khonkhortisan wore the black cape with the scythe 18:16 khonkhortisan idk 18:18 kaeza meh, hope he is better when he comes again, but I really doubt it 18:20 ShadowNinja anyone here know why that line always evaluates to false? 18:20 ShadowNinja er, true 18:21 ShadowNinja client thinks all nodes are rightclickable, that is why there is no node placement prediction 18:24 khonkhortisan nodedef 18:25 * NekoGloop|meow puts kitten heads on all the heads 18:25 ShadowNinja my debug line reports: No placement prediction, prediction:default:dirt, Rightclickable:1 18:25 * john_minetest puts a head on NekoGloop|meow's kitten 18:26 ShadowNinja maybe the server is sending that all nodes are rightclickable 18:41 * iqualfragile steals the head, rips of the flesh and talks to the skull 18:47 khonkhortisan where's plants_lib? 18:47 VanessaE plantlife modpack 18:47 kaeza plantlife 18:47 VanessaE ninja'd :) 18:48 kaeza :) 18:48 khonkhortisan the moretrees github page doesn't have a link to it 18:48 VanessaE the forum page does :) 18:48 VanessaE I'll update the readme 18:50 VanessaE fixed in git. 18:51 ShadowNinja anyone here familiar with the c++ side of the lua api? 18:51 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, depends 18:52 ShadowNinja it appears rightclickable isn't set here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L5R1066 18:52 ShadowNinja it just stays the default, which is true 18:54 Jordach right, getting somewhere 18:55 NekoGloop|meow VanessaE, I see you've added ninja'd to your vocabulary, thanks to me :) 18:56 VanessaE yup :) 18:58 OWNSyouAll is there a list of the mapgen nodes that the map generator makes or do i have to look for them in mapgen.cpp? 18:58 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, *confirm* 19:14 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, do you have a solution for the node placemen prediction? 19:14 * Jordach spotted PilzAdam on XBOX360 playing BF3 19:14 * PilzAdam spottet Jordach spotting PilzAdam on Xbox playing BF3 19:15 Jordach "ENEMY SPOTTED!" 19:15 jin_xi its full moon 19:15 Jordach jin_xi, put yer pants back on then! 19:15 Jordach D: 19:15 jin_xi hm 19:15 jin_xi off to nethack, this it what it means 19:18 mauvebic i must finds meshes for : deep space 9 and minas whatever the fuck its called (LOTR) lol 19:19 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: no I am not sure why it is failing to set 19:31 mauvebic thats what i meant :p 19:32 mauvebic the nicer one lol 19:33 khonkhortisan morgul sounds like a bad guy 19:33 mauvebic minas morgul was the telemarketing capital of middle earth 19:44 ShadowNinja someone close this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/450 19:48 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, you can close it yourself, just post the commit hash of the merge-commit and click on close 19:50 ShadowNinja I can close others pull requests? 19:51 PilzAdam oh 19:51 khonkhortisan If you own the repo you can 19:52 PilzAdam s/own the repo/have push access 20:14 Oblivion1500 anyone know of a good irc proxy i can use? 20:15 * frogcrush would connect to the neighbors WiFi... if he had a laptop.... 20:15 * frogcrush wishes he had a laptop, or a Surface Pro 20:15 * frogcrush wonders how Minetest would work on a Surface 20:16 * Oblivion1500 wonders what the heck frog is talking about 20:17 * Jordach wonders if jordach could say: 20:17 Jordach SILENCE IN #MINETEST. 20:17 frogcrush You said you wanted an irc proxy 20:17 Jordach Your highest poster has spoken. 20:17 frogcrush I would just use the neighbors WiFi 20:18 frogcrush If I had a laptop 20:24 * Jordach crashed chromium 20:28 frogcrush Thats not hard... 20:31 Jordach !tw thebatman 20:32 * Jordach notices the no reply from minetestbot 20:33 sfan5 Jordach: thank you for reminding me to let minetestbot reconnect to the irc server 20:33 sfan5 !tw thebatman 20:33 MinetestBot Did you know you can get lotto scratchers printed that say “where’s my sandwich?” when you scratch them off? Neither does Alfred. Yet. (@thebatman) 20:34 sfan5 simply google tor 20:34 sfan5 !g tor 20:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.torproject.org/ 20:34 sfan5 like that 20:39 Oblivion1500 thanks, im using linux 20:53 Jordach hai sdzen 20:53 sdzen ello ach of Jord 21:00 khonkhortisan celeron55/minetest isn't in minetest/minetest's network 21:01 PilzAdam bye 21:01 VanessaE PilzAdam: wait 21:01 PilzAdam hm? 21:01 VanessaE don't forget creative mode in your formspec images patch, when you have time. 21:01 VanessaE :) 21:02 PilzAdam I tried it today 21:02 VanessaE oh ok 21:02 PilzAdam result: "Fuck this shit" 21:02 VanessaE lol 21:02 PilzAdam someone need to fix this formspec code 21:03 VanessaE well 21:03 frogcrush hmm... Anyone know if 1405 bad sectors on a 350GB laptop harddrive is bad? 21:03 VanessaE maybe I can try it later and pass the changes on to you 21:04 VanessaE frogcrush: Probably not "bad", but enough to warrant replacing the drive soon 21:04 MiJyn frogcrush, I wouldn't say so 21:04 VanessaE sectors are usually only 4k 21:05 PilzAdam bye 21:05 khonkhortisan exec PilzAdam.startup(); 21:06 MiJyn for i in 0..1000000 do PilzAdam.startup(); PilzAdam.shutdown(); end 21:06 MiJyn there, that'll keep him busy :P 21:06 khonkhortisan if PilzAdam.isDead() break; 21:07 MiJyn nonono 21:07 khonkhortisan ? 21:07 MiJyn if PilzAdam.isDead() then PilzAdam.resurrect() end 21:07 khonkhortisan ah. 21:07 MiJyn yes 21:07 MiJyn and I forkbombed that process 21:07 khonkhortisan it only starts one and stops it every loop 21:07 khonkhortisan oh 21:08 MiJyn khonkhortisan, ? 21:08 khonkhortisan nvm 21:09 MiJyn haha ok 21:09 MiJyn hi scifiboi 21:09 Scifiboi hello 21:09 MinetestBot hi Scifiboi 21:09 khonkhortisan hi Scifiboi 21:09 khonkhortisan hi MinetestBot 21:09 MinetestBot Hi khonkhortisan 21:10 MiJyn hi all 21:10 MinetestBot hi MiJyn 21:10 khonkhortisan Using web chat is science fiction 21:10 MiJyn MinetestBot, you are only one person, I was saying hi to EVERYONE 21:10 khonkhortisan hi MiJyn 21:10 MiJyn -_- 21:10 MiJyn xD 21:11 MiJyn john_minetest, haha, I was just being annoying :P 21:11 khonkhortisan MiJyn says hi to 21:12 khonkhortisan yep 21:13 * khonkhortisan is waiting on 6d facedir, raillike connecting to itself, and moretrees respecting mg_flags = trees. 21:14 MiJyn khonkhortisan, challenge accepted :P 21:15 * john_minetest is waiting for Battlefield and similar coming to Linux for free. 21:15 MiJyn haha 21:17 khonkhortisan the graphics quality is increasing faster than the peripheral quality 21:18 * john_minetest is waiting for Brain-Computer-Interfaces for less than 20€ 21:19 MiJyn okay, I did the challenge xD 21:19 MiJyn hi Xenux, sdzen, Roukoswarf-M, monkeycoder, roboman2444, pandaro, sfan5|OFF, MinetestBot, jfu, berome, mr0wl, TForsman, STHGOM, cisoun, Jousway, Vohveli, mauvebic, OWNSyouAll, LunaVorax, ttk2, proller, harrison, john_minetest, bas080, Kray, NekoGloop|meow, iqualfragile, ShadowNinja, kaeza, kumikumi, q66, JesseH, FreeFull, hmmmm, TheLastProject, Roukoswarf, telek, jin_xi, Oblivion1500, tango_, OldCoder, stump, khonkhortisan, SmugLeaf, TheBonsai, robertj, 21:19 MiJyn celeron55, ruskie, ecube, Deiz, DpEpsilon, Taoki, Matrixiumn, MiJyn, leo_rockway, @VanessaE, BackupCoder, Cerise, Morrolan, Kokorobet, mrtux, Fresh_meat, thexyz, xming, yazgoo, VadtecWk, Vadtec, TB`oFF|Vibe-X, xy, loggingbot_, codile, toabi, jrabbit, Exio, nyuszika7h, V0id, fortytwo, AndrewPH, dimeshake, MrSparkle, edwtjo, sokomine, Someguy123, klaxa, xrogaan, lahwran, dzho, @ChanServ, milleja46, ChauffeR, Gizmokid2005 21:19 MiJyn THERE 21:19 nyuszika7h !ops 21:19 MiJyn @everyone, SORRY 21:19 Exio err wat 21:19 nyuszika7h MiJyn: just don't 21:19 khonkhortisan oh _that_ challenge 21:19 JesseH ._. 21:19 nyuszika7h MiJyn: sorry? bitch please, you highlight everyone and all you can say is SORRY? 21:19 nyuszika7h shut up 21:19 ttk2 THE ANNOY EVERYONE BUTTON! 21:19 nyuszika7h go away 21:19 MiJyn MiJyn says hi to 21:19 codile :D 21:20 MiJyn I just _had_ to, sorry 21:20 JesseH I hope you die a thousand deaths 21:20 * NekoGloop|meow puts a kitten on MiJyn's head 21:20 JesseH drowning 21:20 xy nyuszika7h: that situation seems familiar to me 21:20 khonkhortisan that's what the bot was supposed to say when someone says hi all 21:20 ttk2 ok everyone lets get ready 21:20 nyuszika7h xy: wat 21:20 ttk2 every say MiJyn 21:20 mrtux ohai mijyn 21:20 ttk2 again and again 21:20 khonkhortisan that really got tha channel active 21:20 ttk2 MiJyn 21:20 mrtux Mijyn 21:20 jin_xi ahh 21:20 ttk2 MiJyn 21:20 JesseH MiJyn, 21:20 * john_minetest puts a also puts a kitten on MiJyn's head 21:20 NekoGloop|meow Look, it's Mijyn 21:20 mrtux Mijyn 21:20 nyuszika7h xy: oh, that. I'd rather not talk about it. k? k 21:20 MiJyn khonkhortisan, see, wasn't a bad idea, right? xD 21:20 JesseH Hey MiJyn 21:20 mrtux Mijyn 21:20 nyuszika7h why are we spamming, guys 21:20 xy nyuszika7h: with the difference that a certain person didn't even apoligize. 21:20 JesseH sup MiJyn :D 21:20 xy o* 21:20 ttk2 its a joke 21:20 mrtux dunnolol 21:20 TForsman MiJyn howdy 21:20 ttk2 he spammed all of us 21:20 nyuszika7h xy: shut up k? 21:20 JesseH MiJyn, How are you doing mate? 21:20 ttk2 so.. turnabout is fair play 21:20 mrtux oh wow, hi mijyn, never heard from him in a while 21:21 MiJyn haha 21:21 MiJyn yeah 21:21 MiJyn I left 21:21 JesseH I love MiJyn 21:21 nyuszika7h xy: fine, sorry. I don't expect you to do anything, but you should still know it was not intended to be run forever. 21:21 nyuszika7h but really 21:21 MiJyn JesseH, wtf? xD 21:21 Exio what happened with #mt 21:21 nyuszika7h why are we spamming? 21:21 nyuszika7h Exio: hai 21:21 Exio in 10 seconds, more messages than in a month 21:21 nyuszika7h lol 21:21 JesseH xD 21:21 khonkhortisan everyone was mentioned, so anyone that's here responds 21:21 MiJyn nyuszika7h, because of me :P 21:21 MiJyn Exio, YEP 21:21 xy Exio: MiJyn (we are all highlighting him as revenge) highlighted everyone 21:21 VanessaE bleh 21:22 Exio ah, MiJyn? 21:22 khonkhortisan yes, MiJyn. 21:22 Exio really? MiJyn ?!, nah 21:22 Exio i don't think MiJyn did that :) 21:22 nyuszika7h hai MiJyn 21:23 MiJyn holy cow, I only meant it as a joke to khonkhortisan... shouldn't have done that :/ 21:23 khonkhortisan maybe a pm would've been better 21:23 ruskie Ignoring ALL from MiJyn - enjoy the silence 21:23 MiJyn khonkhortisan, yeah, maybe 21:23 xy MiJyn: nobody likes you now, every one left you, they're all out without you, having fun. 21:23 nyuszika7h ruskie: weechat ftw :3 21:24 MiJyn xy, lol NO 21:24 MiJyn john_minetest, lol 21:25 NekoGloop|meow And still, half the channel is idle 21:25 khonkhortisan I voted the popular vote 21:25 khonkhortisan by untying it 21:25 MiJyn NekoGloop, haha, yeah, they'll wake up soon :P 21:25 MiJyn ? 21:25 SmugLeaf MiJyn: fuck you 21:26 * NekoGloop|meow coversv ears 21:26 MiJyn SmugLeaf, ugh, scroll up, I'm sorry 21:26 SmugLeaf i saw 21:26 thexyz i wonder what shall we do with him 21:26 SmugLeaf hence the fuck you 21:26 MiJyn SmugLeaf, ah 21:26 khonkhortisan Long after MiJyn disconnects, people will still be asking, someone messaged me? 21:26 SmugLeaf yes 21:26 jin_xi lol wow didnt think people would go full retard because of a highlight... 21:26 SmugLeaf s/disconnects/banned/ 21:27 MiJyn khonkhortisan, lol 21:27 MiJyn SmugLeaf, no one would do that 21:27 MiJyn It was a joke 21:27 MiJyn and I'm sorry 21:27 khonkhortisan a joke gone wrong 21:27 MiJyn yeah 21:27 khonkhortisan yeah 21:27 VanessaE piece of drek. 21:27 dimeshake a sane op would 21:27 SmugLeaf thexyz: add the ban 21:27 VanessaE what moron decided ctrl-Q should close from an IRC client? :) 21:27 SmugLeaf "as a joke" 21:27 MiJyn dimeshake, except that I've been trying to help minetest for over a year 21:27 khonkhortisan isn't ctrl-q standard? 21:27 MiJyn and helped in my way 21:27 MiJyn so no, they wouldn't ;) 21:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that was a joke :-) 21:28 khonkhortisan only three votes so far 21:29 MiJyn john_minetest, thanks :) 21:29 MiJyn haha yeah 21:29 MiJyn if anyone has something to discuss about in minetest, NOW IS THE TIME! 21:29 MiJyn xD 21:30 MiJyn talking about that, anyone interested in having minetest use LuaJIT instead of Lua? I heard it's like 100x faster 21:30 khonkhortisan 6d facedir ftw 21:30 MiJyn khonkhortisan, what's the current facedir thing? 21:31 frogcrush JIT like what .NET does? 21:31 khonkhortisan facedir is rotation around y axis. Wall mounted is +-axis. New facedir is facedir*wallmounted. 21:31 MiJyn frogcrush, sort of, google it (luajit) 21:31 khonkhortisan backwards compatible, of course. 21:31 MiJyn oh 21:31 MiJyn cool 21:31 khonkhortisan it's not easy to compile c# natively on linux 21:31 frogcrush !g luajit 21:31 MinetestBot frogcrush: http://luajit.org/ 21:32 NekoGloop|meow !g my_ass 21:32 MinetestBot NekoGloop|meow: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my%20ass 21:32 thexyz MiJyn: http://dev.minetest.net/TODO 21:32 MiJyn thexyz, epic! 21:38 khonkhortisan nobody else voted? 21:39 khonkhortisan MiJyn, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4807 21:40 MiJyn khonkhortisan, ah 21:42 MiJyn hallo crackerenherbe 21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:43 MiJyn how are you? 21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:43 MiJyn you missed the ... erm ... fireworks! xD 21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:43 MiJyn in this channel :P 21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:44 MiJyn ah, avec ton ordi ou avec linux? 21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:44 MiJyn ok 21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:44 VanessaE I/O error reading /dev/irc: Language not found. 21:45 VanessaE :) 21:45 MiJyn haha ok 21:45 crackerenherbe [deleted] 21:46 thexyz oh crap 21:46 thexyz https://github.com/4aiman/shared_autoban/blob/master/init.lua#L217 21:46 MiJyn wow lol 21:48 thexyz this is also not the best way to remove duplicates from a list https://github.com/4aiman/shared_autoban/blob/master/init.lua#L88 21:49 MiJyn does this guy know how to program? xD 21:49 jin_xi we all gotta start somewhere 21:50 thexyz yeah 21:50 pandaro jin:we all gotta start somewhere +1 21:50 MiJyn yeah, of course :) 21:51 pandaro i love newbie 21:51 jrabbit thexyz: send fixes 21:52 MiJyn john_minetest, have an issue with goto? 21:53 MiJyn xD 21:53 nyuszika7h C++ has goto? :O 21:53 MiJyn nyuszika7h, yes, because C++ is based on C 21:54 nyuszika7h since when does C have goto 21:54 nyuszika7h o_O 21:54 nyuszika7h anyway, night 21:54 MiJyn nyuszika7h, since it originated? and goodnight :) 21:55 MiJyn hope you don't get pinged ;) 21:56 thexyz jrabbit: why should I? 21:57 jrabbit thexyz: its simple lol 21:57 jrabbit or don't. 21:57 thexyz ? 21:58 thexyz I'd better spend time developing my useless jquery-like library for minetest 21:58 jrabbit it's FOSS, and you seem capable of fixing it with an miniscule amount of effort :P 21:59 MiJyn thexyz, mQuery? :P 21:59 iqualfragile whats up MiJyn? 21:59 thexyz http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress 21:59 thexyz MiJyn: ^ 21:59 MiJyn hi iqualfragile :P 21:59 MiJyn thexyz, NICE! 21:59 thexyz jrabbit: fixing doesn't take much time, designing stuff does 22:02 OldCoder Hi 22:02 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 22:03 MiJyn hi OldCoder 22:04 khonkhortisan hi OldCoder 22:05 MiJyn we're all bots! 22:05 khonkhortisan bots we all are! 22:06 MiJyn :D 22:08 MinetestBot john_minetest: What are you wondering about? 22:08 MiJyn john_minetest, idk xD 22:09 MiJyn OH, I see... LOL 22:20 OldCoder Hello 22:20 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 22:21 pandaro thexyz:a question I saw stress on minetest dev, in which case advice the use of these APIs? lighter?, easier? 22:25 mauvebic shouldnt be a performance difference, i think it might be more a matter of style and saving space 22:26 mauvebic which im all for when most scripts runs 2k lines lol 22:29 pandaro thanks 22:29 pandaro bye 22:32 khonkhortisan Is there an easy way to get it to tell me the nodename of a node in my inventory? 22:32 VadtecWk sup peeps 22:33 VadtecWk khonkhortisan, unified invetory mod 22:33 khonkhortisan and? 22:33 VadtecWk when you click on the item to the right, it will tell you the name of the item in the upper left area of the inv screen 22:34 khonkhortisan I don't see it 22:34 khonkhortisan "Filter:"? 22:34 VadtecWk look above the crafting boxes 22:34 RealBadAngel hello 22:34 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 22:35 RealBadAngel damn, he responds to hello too ;) 22:35 jin_xi its skynet 22:35 RealBadAngel shall we look for some rocket launchers? 22:36 jin_xi idk, nuke the bots i'd say 22:36 RealBadAngel hehe 22:36 khonkhortisan I see "Crafting" above the crafting boxes, and "Page: 1 of 7 | Filter:" above the creative inventory. 22:37 RealBadAngel can you make a screenshot? 22:37 VadtecWk make a screen shot for us 22:37 VadtecWk because it should be there 22:38 RealBadAngel VanessaE made backgrounds for UI today, idk if its related to it or not 22:39 VanessaE dobut it 22:39 VanessaE doubt it* 22:39 VanessaE I aligned my images to within 1 or 2 pixels (at 1280x1024). 22:39 RealBadAngel liked the joke? 22:39 VanessaE I didn't understand it 22:39 RealBadAngel lol 22:40 khonkhortisan I've removed default creative, if it makes any difference 22:40 khonkhortisan woah 22:40 khonkhortisan now I see the backgrounds 22:42 RealBadAngel it does 22:42 jin_xi http://ompldr.org/vaGx6MQ/treegen.zip treegen editor and axiom generator multitool 22:42 khonkhortisan Okay, so where should I see the nodename? http://postimage.org/image/7dvit0h65/ 22:44 khonkhortisan (not to be confused with node description) 22:44 RealBadAngel craft guide 22:45 RealBadAngel jin_xi: how to use it? 22:45 khonkhortisan place something in output I believe 22:45 khonkhortisan but it won't go in either when I try 22:45 RealBadAngel no 22:45 RealBadAngel select it in items list and click 22:46 khonkhortisan oh 22:46 jin_xi it opens editors on rightclick, and spawns tree/axiom on left 22:46 RealBadAngel complete name will be shown 22:46 khonkhortisan that's not obvious, it seems like I should still be able to place stuff in my inventory when creative is on 22:46 RealBadAngel jin_xi, right click doesnt work 22:46 jin_xi you need to point at something 22:47 jin_xi idk why 22:47 khonkhortisan So how do I get it to show me the node name of something that is hidden from creative inventory? 22:47 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, if youre in creative click will add a stack 22:48 RealBadAngel when selected guide tab it will show info 22:48 RealBadAngel while in surrival it will switch to guide, then show info 22:49 khonkhortisan when not_in_creative_inventory=1, how can I get the nodename? 22:49 RealBadAngel well, its not possible 22:49 khonkhortisan even if I have it in my personal inventory? 22:49 RealBadAngel at least without modifications 22:49 khonkhortisan :( okay 22:49 RealBadAngel dont worry, API with new GUI coming soon 22:50 RealBadAngel it will be easy to add modules for UI 22:50 * khonkhortisan removes regular craft_guide 22:51 RealBadAngel hardest thing was how to make options selectable, and lookin nice 22:51 khonkhortisan lol wooden axe uses an unknown item 22:51 RealBadAngel i decided to go for icons 22:51 RealBadAngel and a tool bar with icons 22:52 RealBadAngel when some1 will want to add a module he will have just to add Icon for it and the code 22:53 khonkhortisan So if craft guide tells me an unknown item is the input, I also have no way to get the nawme because the unknown item doesn't appear in creative 22:53 VadtecWk jin_xi, is that an updated version of the editor on the forum? 22:53 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, that means its a bug 22:54 jin_xi VadtecWk: yes slightly updated with better order of rules and merged with axiom generator into one multitool 22:54 VanessaE sigh, of course no one in -dev .. 22:54 VadtecWk sweet 22:54 jin_xi axiom generator allows stuff like: 22:54 RealBadAngel jin_xi, are multitools handy, arent they? :) 22:54 khonkhortisan nice on the alternate recipes 22:54 jin_xi 0 80 DO [ & & & & & & G G G G G G T T T T ] / G LOOP to make a big spiral... 22:55 jin_xi RealBadAngel: yes, i like it 22:55 VadtecWk so, 0 to 80 times for the loop? 22:55 khonkhortisan uh-oh, mese crystal makes both 18 and 16 mese 22:55 jin_xi yes 22:56 VadtecWk interesting...you should ban me from loop use...ill likely abuse it :P 22:56 jin_xi you can also define words using : and ; and reuse them (not persistent between games) 22:56 VadtecWk block decompression bomb anyone? :P 22:57 khonkhortisan ick, moreblocks flips the axe recipe 22:57 VadtecWk aight, about to head home 22:57 VadtecWk cya in a bit peeps 22:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: you've got something b0rked. 22:57 khonkhortisan aha! "default:wood " 22:59 Oblivion1500 hi MiJyn 22:59 Oblivion1500 lol 23:03 MiJyn hi Oblivion1500 :P 23:18 khonkhortisan that's an hour:40 response time. I wonder who'll beat that record next. 23:19 milleja46 MiJyn: PLEASE DON'T NAME PING EVERYONE O_O 23:20 khonkhortisan MiJyn has already learned 23:21 milleja46 khonkhortisan: I don't care :P I had to get that out of my system since that happens with someone at least once or twice every week 23:21 NekoGloop|meow default:shit 23:21 khonkhortisan how many channels are you on? 23:22 NekoGloop|meow All of them. ALL OF THEM. 23:22 milleja46 um i think 30 most i'm not even active in 23:22 khonkhortisan wow I'm on seven 23:23 khonkhortisan I'm seven years old in channel time 23:23 milleja46 well some I could do with to get out of but since I'm never on some of them I just forget their there like the corner that amy missed in her house in the eleventh hour of doctor who :P 23:24 * khonkhortisan saw that one 23:24 * milleja46 goes back to wishing he could buy classic doctor who arcs... 23:24 milleja46 I'm a american but i love that show :P 23:25 telek Pfehs @ MiJyn: I thought somebody was actually messaging me something important :D 23:25 milleja46 funny thing is I got hooked by a modern monster of the series that had nothing to do with the classic one: weeping angels 23:25 telek milleja46: They have them in the US I bought part of the Tom Baker years a few years back. Expensive as heck though, like 80 bucks for 2 years of eps. 23:26 * milleja46 bets khonkhortisan has no clue what episode he got hooked on... 23:26 milleja46 telek: i know :P and on a delievery driver pay I can only wish 23:26 milleja46 especially when I only get $2 and $3 tips no matter how good i felt like i did... >_> 23:27 telek Ouch :/ 23:27 milleja46 yeah... 23:27 * khonkhortisan saw weeping angels too 23:27 telek Could be worse, try working a convenience mart. Min Wage and no tips :D 23:27 milleja46 though i did get to see a Troughton episode with the doctors revisted special on now leading up to the 50th anniversary... 23:28 telek Also the chance of getting shot or stabbed either for money, or to get the liquor cabinet key to let the drunks get access :D 23:28 milleja46 funny thing is waiters/waitresses have the good life compared to me right now :P 23:29 milleja46 but with that classic episode it was "The tomb of the cybermen" in it's complete entirety of every episode of the arc 23:30 telek Nice. 23:31 Kacey EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP!!!!!!! *flop* 23:31 milleja46 telek: but the funny thing is it didn't feel like it was seperate episodes watching it....usually you would think it would feel like several episodes instead of one huge that is almost like a movie 23:31 khonkhortisan *flop* 23:32 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJNYdHPcDE lol yeah 23:33 khonkhortisan aw //replace doesn't keep facedir 23:34 ShadowNinja jin_xi: are you writing the in-game treegen axiom editor? 23:34 NekoGloop|Laptop Welcome to Standing Up School *flop* Aaand you fail. 23:35 Kacey lol yep^ 23:36 milleja46 telek: what would be great is if they release the ultimate collection of who up until the point after the 50th anniversary... 23:39 telek The odds of that are the same as Mr Roger's family releasing the unabridged Mr Roger's show in a... what 600 dvd megapack? 23:41 jin_xi ShadowNinja: yes, i did that 23:43 ShadowNinja well I have a patch that lets you use [ and ] in formspecs without corupting them 23:43 ShadowNinja so you can push and pop 23:45 milleja46 telek: yeah but it would be amazing to be able to get some kind of major pack containing a lot of the episodes... 23:48 khonkhortisan Anyone know why github thinks the whole file was changed when only one character is different? https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/pull/17/files 23:48 milleja46 khonkhortisan: because you changed something in the file :P 23:49 NekoGloop|Laptop Because windows? 23:49 milleja46 though it is odd how it does that sometimes 23:49 khonkhortisan Because web. 23:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT1YT9AOPA huh 23:50 khonkhortisan regular git diff would be smarter about it 23:50 khonkhortisan physical logic? cool! 23:50 Kacey right? 23:51 milleja46 i have such the odd tastes in tv XD 23:51 khonkhortisan so "current" is the continued spinning of a gear 23:52 Kacey yep 23:52 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBDoT8o4q00 cool 23:53 MiJyn [16:26] Pfehs @ MiJyn: I thought somebody was actually messaging me something important :D 23:53 MiJyn Sorry! xD 23:54 MiJyn [16:22] khonkhortisan: I don't care :P I had to get that out of my system since that happens with someone at least once or twice every week 23:54 MiJyn You got to be kidding me 23:54 MiJyn Where? 23:54 khonkhortisan in the many open channel tabs/windows 23:54 MiJyn haha 23:57 khonkhortisan Kacey, I've seen that 23:57 khonkhortisan most of it