Time Nick Message 00:01 Sh1fty Kacey, what kind of help? 00:02 Kacey making components 00:07 Kacey what is an ALU? 00:08 marktraceur Arithmetic and Logic Unit 00:08 marktraceur It's what does math and comparisons. 00:08 * marktraceur can't believe he remembers Assembly Language class 00:08 Kacey aah ok 00:08 Sh1fty who doesn't :) 00:08 Kacey marktraceur, are you interested in the computer? 00:08 Sh1fty you should maybe start with something simpler 00:08 Kacey what like RAM? 00:09 Sh1fty like a brainfuck interpreter 00:09 marktraceur Kacey: Not particularly interested, but I'll help when I can 00:09 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck 00:09 marktraceur Yeah, brainfuck, that's easy. 00:09 Kacey alright can you explain ROM to me? 00:10 kaeza Kacey, maybe a computer is too complicated using plain Âµcode 00:10 marktraceur Kacey: Nobody uses ROM anymore, do they? 00:10 Kacey well i want toknow what it is in case i need it 00:11 marktraceur Kacey: Read Only Material 00:11 kaeza marktraceur, what is ROM :P 00:11 kaeza ? 00:11 marktraceur It's something that you can only read from, as opposed to writing also. 00:11 Kacey but what does it do? 00:11 kaeza 00:11 marktraceur Kacey: It's just read-only storage. Static. 00:11 jin_xi it stores stuff 00:11 Kacey RAM stores 00:11 Sh1fty marktraceur, harvard arch uses it 00:11 marktraceur So does ROM. 00:12 kaeza I mean, even BIOS is not "ROM" anymore 00:12 marktraceur Maybe it's Read-Only Memory? I don't know. 00:12 marktraceur Yeah, memory. 00:12 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_architecture 00:13 marktraceur Kacey: The only things that could be useful for ROM might be e.g. version information for your computer, maybe some authour information, or some constant values 00:13 kaeza marktraceur, ROM = Read-Only Memory, RAM = Random Access Memory 00:13 marktraceur Axectly. 00:13 marktraceur Exactly. 00:13 * marktraceur facepalm 00:13 kaeza random, as in "you can access bytes from random addresses" 00:13 kaeza and both read/write 00:14 marktraceur kaeza: We weren't really discussing RAM, but yes, that's true. 00:14 marktraceur IIRC Kacey has already built RAM. 00:14 Kacey i have ^_^ 00:14 Kacey i need more to do 00:15 kaeza how many data can you store in it Kacey ? 00:15 Kacey well... 00:15 kaeza much* 00:15 Kacey i can make them in all sizes 00:15 VanessaE a better question is what is your volume-to-storage ratio? 00:15 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 00:15 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.301ms) 00:15 VanessaE 10x10x10 nodes stores how many bytes? 00:15 Kacey 1 input for 1 output 00:17 kaeza hmm... 00:17 Kacey join that kaeza 00:18 Sh1fty so you made a D flip-flop? 00:19 paxcoder bb 00:19 Kacey that was the basic RAM 00:20 jojoa1997 is it possible to have a config file just for a certain world 00:20 VanessaE jojoa1997: sure, I do that with the server. 00:20 VanessaE the --config option 00:20 jojoa1997 oh can i do that with singleplayer 00:20 VanessaE point that to whatever your particular config file should be for the world/server in question 00:21 jojoa1997 how 00:21 VanessaE minetestserver --config /path/to/minetest.conf 00:21 VanessaE or minetest --config ... 00:21 jojoa1997 one sec 00:22 jojoa1997 so i made a world what next? 00:22 jojoa1997 i didnt go in it yet 00:22 VanessaE make a copy of minetest.conf, call it something like minetest-myworld.conf 00:22 VanessaE then do 00:23 VanessaE minetest --config /path/to/minetest-myworld.conf 00:23 VanessaE any changes you make to the game's settings will go into *that* file only 00:23 jojoa1997 so i can out it in the world folder? 00:23 VanessaE you can but MT doesn't care where it is - you're using --config to force it. 00:24 jojoa1997 it says add ons what do i do? 00:24 jojoa1997 and has mod:N/A in the corner 00:25 VanessaE I don't know how that thing works 00:25 jojoa1997 ok so do i use the config button in the main menu or is it a command line 00:25 VanessaE and it's always giving me "ERROR: these mods were not found:" (with nothing listed) at the top of the screen when I start a world. 00:26 VanessaE wait a minute, what exactly are you trying to do? 00:26 VanessaE that Configure button has no relationship to your minetest.conf file 00:26 VanessaE (or the alternate one you are pointing to) 00:26 jojoa1997 i want to make a config file for a world that i will be giving to someone to put on their server. also i need to get the right seed and want to use the conf 00:27 VanessaE only way I personally know of to do that is just as I said, then, and tell the user to use that config file. 00:28 jojoa1997 but where do i put the words for the conf file 00:28 jojoa1997 the words to set the path to that file 00:29 VanessaE minetest --config path/to/your/config/file 00:30 VanessaE command line 00:30 jojoa1997 yeah but where do i type this "minetest --config path/to/your/config/file" 00:30 jojoa1997 oh 00:30 jojoa1997 so it will change the seed if i change the fixed seed 00:30 VanessaE yes 00:31 VanessaE anything you specify in that new config file will be specific to that file, including things like fixed seed, static spawn points, etc. 00:31 VanessaE but bear in mind 00:32 VanessaE anything you change in the main menu will be saved only to that config file 00:32 VanessaE not to your regular minetest/minetest.conf 00:32 jojoa1997 in the main menu? 00:32 VanessaE yeah 00:32 VanessaE for example, 00:33 VanessaE if you create a custom config file, and use --config to point to it, and then let's say you go change the shaders option, that option will only be saved to your new config file, not your default one. 00:33 VanessaE same for anything else that gets saved to the config normally. 00:33 jojoa1997 so feor me it would be 00:35 jojoa1997 /minetest --config C:\Users\\Desktop\minetest\worlds\server\hunger_games_config 00:35 VanessaE something like that I guess 00:35 VanessaE I don't know how windows paths work 00:35 VanessaE but that looks right in the general DOS sense. 00:42 Kacey herpderp 00:42 * Kacey herpderp 00:43 * Kacey herpderp 00:43 Kacey oops sorry 00:43 kaeza lolwut 00:43 Kacey it is quiet... 00:43 marktraceur Kacey: That's no excuse for flooding 00:43 marktraceur Or it will be much quiter for you very quickly 00:44 Kacey i hit the wrong button 00:44 Kacey shift and up are right next to eachother 00:44 marktraceur Mmmmmhm. 00:45 kaeza I don't get it 00:46 Kacey stupid little keys 00:47 Sh1fty what's up with minetest.net? 00:48 Kacey hm? 00:48 Kacey it appears to be down 00:48 Sh1fty that was helpful :D 00:49 * Kacey announces the obvious 00:52 Kacey i think a flat_mapgen should be in the default game... 00:52 VanessaE there will be one available. 00:53 Kacey is there one yet? 00:53 Kacey or a game mode even? 00:53 kaeza1 why is hexchat so painfully slow on windows? 00:53 VanessaE it'll be a mapgen setting. 00:54 VanessaE it may already be possible now with all the work that was done to mapgen v6 (the existing one) 00:54 kaeza1 and it's ignoreing my /nick commands 00:54 kaeza1 -e 00:54 VanessaE Kacey: from my server's map_meta.txt file: http://pastebin.com/7WENHzCh 00:55 VanessaE I expect one or more of those values there could be changed to get the effect you wanted. 00:56 VanessaE hmmmm: what would be change to force a flat map? 00:56 Sh1fty i love the fact that everyone is using github for mods :) 00:57 hmmmm uhh 00:57 hmmmm set the terrain_base and terrain_higher offset and scale to 0 00:57 hmmmm hold on 00:58 hmmmm kacey, add these two lines to minetest.conf (you have to be using a newer version of minetest for this to work) 00:58 hmmmm mgv6_np_terrain_base = 0, 0.0, (200, 200, 200), 12345, 1, 0.6 00:58 hmmmm mgv6_np_terrain_higher = 0, 0.0, (200, 200, 200), 12345, 1, 0.6 00:59 Kacey hang on 00:59 Kacey newer? 00:59 Oblivion1500 can someone tell me redcrabs server ip and port please.. cant seem to be able to get on the forums 00:59 VanessaE hmmmm: I'm curious - could one of those values be why my map got broken? I didn't add this stuff, it was done for me at some point recently. 00:59 hmmmm you would've needed to use a non-official build of minetest or compile it on your own from the source 00:59 hmmmm vanessa, no, not at all 00:59 VanessaE s/broken/\.\.\.\"altered\"\.\.\./ 00:59 VanessaE oh ok 01:00 VanessaE hrm, I still wonder how it happened :-) 01:00 VanessaE not a big deal 01:01 VanessaE it gives people a reason to use ladders :D 01:01 hmmmm whatever it is, it's not my problem since it was like that at least 2 months ago 01:02 VanessaE no prob. 01:02 Oblivion1500 anyone know redcrabs server? 01:02 VanessaE Oblivion1500: redcrab.suret.net:30401 01:02 VanessaE what about it? 01:02 Oblivion1500 thanks VanessaE 01:06 Kacey brb dinner 01:06 VanessaE asve me some! 01:06 VanessaE save* 01:06 VanessaE :) 01:06 Kacey naw 01:14 telek So what's the benefits of these new mapgen formats? 01:15 VanessaE I'll let hmmmm field that one :) 01:15 hmmmm formats? 01:15 RobertArkenin I heard a rumor carts were going to be part of the Minetest engine, and would be partially progrssed client-side. Is this true? 01:16 telek hmmmm: Are they just script/API changes? 01:17 hmmmm well i'm not really sure what you're referring to by formats 01:18 VanessaE perhaps he means to ask, what mapgen v7 offers that v6 does not, 01:20 telek And what v6 offers that whatever the previous versions were didn't? 01:21 hmmmm lots of things, for one it takes a fundamentally different approach to terrain generation 01:22 hmmmm take a look at the way maps look in the 0.3.x versions of minetest if you'd like 01:22 VanessaE http://minetestbb.suret.net/map.0.3.1.20120402.png 01:22 VanessaE an example thereogf. 01:22 VanessaE thereof. 01:23 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png 01:23 VanessaE versus 0.4.4 01:24 hmmmm a top-down view doesn't do it justice 01:24 VanessaE (translation: always assume your audience is as lazy as slashdotters are to googling for stuff ;) ) 01:24 hmmmm not trying to sell him anything.. 01:24 hmmmm no point 01:31 Sh1fty do trees regrow now? 01:32 VanessaE it you plant saplings, sure. 01:32 VanessaE if* 01:32 Sh1fty but generated ones don't? 01:32 VanessaE no. 01:32 Kacey back 01:32 VanessaE wb 01:32 Sh1fty btw moretrees and plantlife are awesome 01:32 VanessaE thanks :) 01:33 Sh1fty and i love the new tree system 01:33 Kacey the flat_mapgen failed :( 01:37 VanessaE hmmmm: whoa, there's something very wrong here. 01:38 Kacey what? 01:38 VanessaE I just created a copy of my server world, deleted the map.sqlite so it could regenerate, signed in and teleported myself to where the spawn should be. The land surrounding those coords looks nothing like the live map at all 01:38 VanessaE what does this mean? 01:39 Kacey seed is the same? 01:39 VanessaE yes 01:39 hmmmm of course, it looks like whatever map was being newly generated in those weird chunks you were experiencing 01:39 VanessaE hmmmm: right. 01:39 hmmmm that's not really anything wrong 01:44 VanessaE overview map coming up in a few mins as soon as this other unrelated upload is done. 01:47 arsdragonfly is the official website down? 01:47 VanessaE yes. 01:47 arsdragonfly i mean minetest.net 01:47 VanessaE forums are up, though. 01:47 arsdragonfly oh 01:48 arsdragonfly thx a lot 01:48 VanessaE forum.minetest.net 01:49 * kaeza wonders if sfan5 can make a script to rewrite all the URLs in posts to point to forum.minetest.net instead of minetest.net/forum/ ... 01:50 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map2.png 01:50 VanessaE there we go. 01:50 VanessaE the yellow dot in the middle of that lake is where the spawn is in the live map. 01:52 arsdragonfly cool 01:52 arsdragonfly so what's the matter about the website? 01:52 VanessaE arsdragonfly: no idea. 01:52 Sh1fty these oaks are really huge 01:52 VanessaE Sh1fty: yep 01:53 Sh1fty i've been cutting one for half an hour now :) 01:53 VanessaE they're supposed to be 01:53 arsdragonfly i wonder if celeron55 has a twitter account or so 01:53 Sh1fty found myself a small island with one huge oak :) 01:53 Sh1fty carving it for a tree house :) 01:53 VanessaE cool :) 01:54 VanessaE and to think, jojoa1997 wants me to make a mod with Home Tree (Avatar) 01:54 VanessaE puhleaze :-) 01:55 Sh1fty i haven't seen any trees with flowers, are there any? 01:55 VanessaE no 01:55 VanessaE but pines, firs, spruces have cones 01:55 VanessaE and of course, there are proper apple trees too 01:55 Sh1fty those are awesome too 01:55 VanessaE try making a new map, but edit init.lua to enable beech trees also :) 01:55 Sh1fty one apple tree gave me a boatload of apples :) 01:56 VanessaE hehe 01:56 marktraceur VanessaE: There are flowery trees in a mod somewhere, I think. Maybe just the vanilla flowers mod. 01:56 VanessaE I might need to reduce how many are made. 01:57 VanessaE marktraceur: Nature Pack adds apple blossoms to default trees. 01:57 VanessaE Sh1fty was talking about moretrees mod specifically though. 01:58 Kacey i have stacked 2 1-bit RAM units semi-successfully 02:01 VanessaE In have to wonder, comparing these two images... how I would come up with a seed that would at least somewhat resemble my live map 02:05 VanessaE I guess I could just tell everyone a severe thunderstorm blew through and flooded the spawn ;) 02:06 Kacey heh 02:09 Kacey quite a delay on changing the output... 02:21 telek hmmmm: Ahh neat. I thought that stuff had been in for a while though. 02:22 telek VanessaE: You also need to start the map with the exact same mods as you started the other map with. 02:22 VanessaE telek: I didn. 02:23 VanessaE er, 02:23 telek I'd never be able to reproduce my current map if I had half the mods I currently have installed working :) 02:23 VanessaE telek: I did. 02:23 telek Oh very weird then. 02:23 VanessaE in fact it's an exact copy of the whole world folder then from the server, minus player files and the like, running the same mod collection as on the server. 02:24 RealBadAngel hi all 02:25 * telek will have to try that himself when he has some spare time, see how it turns out. 02:25 VanessaE get 02:25 VanessaE hey 02:25 telek Sup RBA? 02:25 RealBadAngel just woke up 02:26 RealBadAngel goin to work soon, but im takin one day off, on friday to get looong weekend for coding 02:28 Kacey it is 19:30 over here 02:28 RealBadAngel VanessaE, just saw your map picture, you can really recognize the type of the tree from above 02:29 Sh1fty 3:30 am here :) 02:29 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yep; I think btw there aren't enough jungletrees. 02:29 RealBadAngel indeed, and too many sequoias 02:29 VanessaE maybe so 02:30 VanessaE of course that's just a tiny sample of that map 02:30 RealBadAngel they were supposed to form sequoia woods, but can be found everywhere 02:30 VanessaE enough to show that someone, somewhere changed how a seed is turned into map data :-) 02:32 RealBadAngel btw some sold me an idea to make underwater trees 02:32 VanessaE oh? 02:32 RealBadAngel will have to try make coral reefs 02:32 VanessaE interesting 02:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: How much did it cost? 02:32 VanessaE that's something better suited to plants_lib though 02:33 RealBadAngel hehe 02:33 RealBadAngel a lot ;) 02:33 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i was thinkin bout l-system reefs 02:34 VanessaE RealBadAngel: the problem with that idea is making them follow the contours of the seabed. 02:34 RealBadAngel different shapes, colorful, ocean biome 02:34 RealBadAngel we will find a way 02:35 BackupCoder that is an anthem 02:39 Sh1fty i got over 3 stacks of oak leaves from clearing a 3 block high platform :D 02:42 RealBadAngel pick the biggest one you can find, it will give you 3,5k of leaves and 300+ wood 02:43 Sh1fty that wasn't my goal, i was building a tree house :) 02:44 RealBadAngel i know, just pointed how big they are 02:44 VanessaE and I'm not about to make them smaller, either :) 02:44 VanessaE however, a new leafdecay routine is certainly needed. 02:44 Sh1fty speaking of 02:45 RealBadAngel indeed 02:45 Sh1fty how far does an oak tree need to be from oak leaves? 02:45 VanessaE right now it doesn't matter 02:45 VanessaE leaves don't decay 02:45 VanessaE btw, how many saplings did you get from that big tree? 02:45 Sh1fty oh 02:45 NakedFury leaf decay and no giving you leafs 02:45 Sh1fty no idea 02:46 Sh1fty ~30-40 i think 02:46 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think that's too many for a big ol' oak tree, no? 02:46 RealBadAngel yeah 02:46 VanessaE current drop rate is 1/20 02:46 VanessaE maybe I should make this about 1/100. 02:46 RealBadAngel cut it at least by half 02:46 Sh1fty 1/100 would be ok 02:46 RealBadAngel ok 02:47 Sh1fty it would take a couple of minutes to get a sapling 02:47 RealBadAngel and users being angry "gimme that fuckin sapling you.... tree!" 02:48 Sh1fty that's how it's supposed to be :) 02:48 Sh1fty when you need one, it's annoying and you get plenty when you don't :D 02:48 VanessaE any other changes? 02:48 VanessaE biomes need a lot of tuning, but I'm too tired to mess with that now. 02:49 RealBadAngel for proper biomes we shall wait for hmmm 02:49 RealBadAngel imho 02:49 Kacey night all 02:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: well with temperature, land fertility, humidity, elevation, and the other controls in plants_lib, I think we can do fine now :) 02:50 RealBadAngel then we will need to make also new kinds of trees 02:50 RealBadAngel nether biome trees, aether ones 02:50 VanessaE ew. 02:51 Sh1fty do we really need the nether? :D 02:51 RealBadAngel to make use of range 0 to -30000 ? 02:52 RealBadAngel yes 02:52 RealBadAngel same for opposite direction 02:53 VanessaE there, changed sapling probability, on git. 02:53 RealBadAngel currently it has no real use we could go so far 02:53 Muadtralk ultimate building? 02:53 RealBadAngel and exploring the map means walkin on the surface 02:54 RealBadAngel hi Muadtralk, some new textures will be needed soon 02:54 Sh1fty i just built some tools and torches 02:54 Sh1fty that's enough for tonight :D 02:55 Sh1fty i spent the last hour and a half using nothing but a pickaxe and axe and messing with trees :D 02:55 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, check MV electric furnace, 32x textures for it are already uploaded, code for it will come soon 02:55 Muadtralk hmmmm 02:55 Muadtralk I will 02:56 Muadtralk crap 02:56 Muadtralk he is on 02:56 * Muadtralk removes an m 02:56 RealBadAngel lol 02:56 NekoGloop why doesn't he just call himself hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 02:57 RealBadAngel hmmmm i dont know 02:57 Sh1fty VanessaE, i think placing/chopping a tree block should turn leaf decay off/on in a certain radius 02:57 VanessaE maybe 02:58 Sh1fty that would make it almost event based, which is best for cpu usage 02:58 RealBadAngel could be a solution 02:58 Sh1fty i don't see any other option that would use less cpu 02:58 Sh1fty and it would work perfectly 02:58 RealBadAngel in fact its an good idea 03:08 RealBadAngel just found one joke, translated it 03:08 RealBadAngel Doctor, i have very same nightmare every night. Im in Antarctica, there are penguins, 03:08 RealBadAngel lots of them. And they keep coming and coming. And they are pushin me towards the cliffs. 03:08 RealBadAngel Each time i land in a very cold water and drown. 03:08 RealBadAngel Doctor replies: You know, usually we cure such cases in no time, but with you, mr Gates we can have some problems... 03:15 NekoGloop So the Linux penguins are fated to be in Antartica? 03:16 NekoGloop Remind me to not visit. 03:21 kaeza is there a way to enable shaders while still using full-block water? 03:22 NekoGloop Personally I'd want the exact opposite. 03:22 kaeza let me rephrase that: is there a way to have full-block water with shaders turned on? 03:23 NekoGloop I would want the chopped water without the shaders. 03:26 kaeza the water looks silly sometimes 03:26 kaeza especially when it's under a node 03:26 VanessaE especially when it has waterlilies on it 03:27 kaeza yup 03:29 kaeza or this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_2389664015.jpg 03:30 telek Oh speaking of which. 03:30 telek Waterlillies are re-placable on water? 03:30 telek Erm aren't? 03:31 kaeza BTW is it normal that the game runs considerably faster with shaders on? 03:44 VanessaE telek: no 03:44 VanessaE kaeza: for me, I get lower fps with shaders 03:45 telek Ok, just wanted to make sure :) 03:45 VanessaE I could probably make them do that if someone can tell me how :-) 03:45 telek Kinda bummed me out the first time I ran into it, since I was planning to move a couple to an indoor pool :) 03:45 kaeza VanessaE, 25FPS w/o shaders, ~35 with. O.o 03:46 VanessaE kaeza: for me, ~35 without shaders, 25-30 with. 03:46 VanessaE (256px textures though) 03:46 NekoGloop http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8254/71005118.png Look, trees. 03:53 VanessaE well you got conifers figured out, not what about jungle trees, palms, pine, ... 03:53 VanessaE ;) 03:54 VanessaE now* 03:55 NekoGloop http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5580/19215078.png More trees. More upper layer overlapping like a boss. 03:56 VanessaE hehe 04:00 kaeza NekoGloop, events? 04:00 NekoGloop Damn. 04:00 kaeza or pictures? 04:00 NekoGloop pictures are laggy and bad and you should feel bad. 04:01 kaeza hehe right 04:01 kaeza try doing a custom HUD using pictures 04:01 kaeza :/ 04:24 Sh1fty minecraft trees look really crappy after moretrees :) 04:50 VanessaE thanks :) 04:53 * telek thinks he needs another free day to dig back through all the recently developed mods again. 05:45 bulletrulz minetest net down? 05:51 VanessaE yes 05:59 bulletrulz VanessaE: why is it down xD 05:59 VanessaE beats me, ask c55 :) 05:59 bulletrulz nah im not really a c55 guy 06:00 VanessaE at least the forums are still working 06:00 bulletrulz VanessaE: yeah tru can u give me alink to the download page please? 06:00 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 06:00 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 06:00 bulletrulz VanessaE: the deb? 06:01 VanessaE I don't have a link to that. I compile. 06:01 VanessaE if you can use a deb, you can compile it too. 06:01 bulletrulz ok i guess ill be doing work today xD 06:02 VanessaE compiling is easy on debian-based systems. 06:02 bulletrulz i kno VanessaE xD 06:02 VanessaE 10-15 mins for a slow system starting with nothing :-) 06:08 bulletrulz VanessaE: what is ur system? 06:08 VanessaE Phenom II X6 1055T (2.6 GHz) w/4GB RAM, 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, running Ubuntu 12.04. 06:08 VanessaE (well, Xubuntu) 06:11 bulletrulz oh snap thats way better thin mine 06:11 bulletrulz VanessaE: i have a 1 gb 1.6ghz intel processer with lubuntu 12.10 06:12 VanessaE that's still respectable 06:12 bulletrulz oh and a 250 gb hardrive 06:13 VanessaE 500 GB spinning rust here in addition to that OCZ, but it just serves as a media drive, nothing special about it. 06:15 bulletrulz yea lol 06:17 bulletrulz building 06:18 VanessaE I update so often, I wrote a simple script to automate the process :-) 06:20 bulletrulz x 06:20 bulletrulz XD 06:21 bulletrulz i probaly wont update too ofton just wanna play mp u know 06:21 VanessaE sure 06:22 bulletrulz well ill ttyl 06:23 VanessaE bye 06:50 VanessaE I'm off to bed. Night all. 06:50 kaeza night 09:52 DarkDragon490 hello there 09:55 berome hello 09:55 DarkDragon490 can u help me with a problem in minetest? 09:55 berome perhaps, what is OS and what is problem ? 09:56 berome I'm sure someone else will help you if I can't. 09:56 DarkDragon490 Windows 7, when i try to connect to a server (with no password, first time) it just keeps loading the "connecting to server" page 09:57 ruskie well what server are you connecting to? 09:57 DarkDragon490 24.5.2.67 09:57 DarkDragon490 ecube's 09:57 DarkDragon490 i jsut wanna 09:57 DarkDragon490 i mean 09:58 DarkDragon490 i just wanna try any server 09:58 ruskie and is the port correct? 09:58 DarkDragon490 yes, 30000 09:59 ruskie maybe your firewall is blocking or the server is down 09:59 DarkDragon490 well, do you have a working server's ip so i can try it? 09:59 ruskie check any of the minetest.org 09:59 ruskie http://minetest.org/worlds.html 09:59 berome !up 24.5.2.67 30000 09:59 Minetest-tan 24.5.2.67:30000 seems to be down 09:59 DarkDragon490 oh 10:00 DarkDragon490 ok any working servers? 10:00 ruskie the list is in the URL 10:00 berome !up minetest.org 30015 10:00 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.291ms) 10:00 berome for example 10:00 DarkDragon490 ok gonna try it 10:00 DarkDragon490 thx 10:01 berome my pleasure, but you won't have interract by default here. 10:01 DarkDragon490 ye it says it doesnt allow empty passwords :/ 10:01 ruskie so just put in a password 10:01 berome yes 10:01 ruskie it's whatever you want 10:01 DarkDragon490 k 10:01 ruskie if an account doesn't exist it will be created 10:02 DarkDragon490 waiting content.. i think its gonna work thx :) 10:02 DarkDragon490 so it was just that the servers i tried were off? 10:03 ruskie probably 10:03 berome I think that, for now :- 10:04 DarkDragon490 thank you :) 10:27 mitori good day 10:28 mitori is 10:28 mitori there anyone? 10:30 berome hello mitori :-) anyone for ...? 10:33 berome mitori: do you need some help with minetest ? 10:39 OldCoder Hi 10:39 berome hi OldCoder :-) 10:39 OldCoder :-) 10:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:48 OldCoder Hi 11:02 kaeza PilzAdam, it seems there's a bug in beds. For some reason, it thinks I'm always in bed (i.e. says "Good Night" and there's no night). 11:03 kaeza not sure how to reproduce 11:03 PilzAdam its recommended to go out of the bed by rightclicking it 11:04 kaeza ah ok 11:15 kaeza Minetest in Spanish: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-01-31%2008%3A11%3A57.jpg 11:33 kaeza PilzAdam, are your win32 builds compiled with ENABLE_GETTEXT? 11:33 PilzAdam im currently working on it 11:33 kaeza ah ok. sorry 11:37 Exio nice kaeza! 11:37 kaeza hm? 11:37 Exio the mt in spanish :P 11:37 kaeza ah :P 11:45 mitori hi 12:05 PilzAdam kaeza, test build was succesfull, win32 gettext build will be here soon 12:06 kaeza PilzAdam, great! thanks! 12:06 kaeza ^_^ 12:07 PilzAdam do you use windows? 12:08 kaeza It's for a friend that wants to play in spanish 12:09 kaeza I use Ubuntu 12:11 PilzAdam kaeza, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=67370 12:11 PilzAdam but I dunno how to set the $LANG variable correctly 12:11 kaeza hmm 12:11 PilzAdam the build works in wine 12:11 kaeza have been googling about that 12:12 kaeza it seems you need to set LC_ALL 12:13 kaeza testing... 12:15 PilzAdam seems like it reads the system language 12:15 PilzAdam (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/install.html) 12:15 PilzAdam but you can also set LANG and LANGUAGE 12:18 PilzAdam bbl 12:29 whirm kaeza: is your friend's ubuntu in spanish? 12:29 kaeza he uses Windows 12:30 kaeza why? 12:32 whirm ah, sorry I understood it the other way around :D 12:34 whirm I think for windows you have to go to my computer > right click > properties > advanced tab > environment variables 12:34 kaeza yes, I already pointed him to that one 12:34 kaeza LANG=es 12:35 kaeza by any chance, do you speak spanish? 12:42 PilzAdam kaeza, does it work? 12:43 kaeza PilzAdam, apparently he got it to work 12:43 kaeza I'm still struggling to make it work on wine 12:44 kaeza he says that the LANG variable is not needed and actually caused conflicts 12:44 PilzAdam wine reads LANG, I guess 12:44 PilzAdam has he changed something? would be nice if he posts it in the forum topic 12:49 kaeza PilzAdam, he says he didn't change anything 12:49 kaeza it worked out of the box 12:49 PilzAdam good 13:28 mitori berome 13:30 berome yes ? 13:31 berome mitori ? 13:31 mitori you were ready to help me, weren't you? 13:31 berome sure ; at least I will try :-) 13:31 mitori i've got this problem 13:32 mitori i cant get the node to emit light 13:33 berome ok 13:33 berome wait 13:34 berome in minetest .register_node , 13:34 berome did you put correctly 13:35 berome light_source = something 13:35 mitori light_source = LIGHT_MAX, 13:35 berome light_source = LIGHT_MAX - 1, for lava, for example ? 13:36 PilzAdam if you use LIGHT_MAX you have to depend on default 13:36 berome I think it needs a number after 13:36 mitori the thing is 13:36 mitori it all worked 13:36 mitori until the builds which were built after 20th of January 13:39 mitori oh well. 13:39 mitori it works now 13:39 mitori thank you 13:39 mitori the depends thing wasn't there 13:39 berome :-) 13:40 PilzAdam use 14 instead of LIGHT_MAX, so you dont have to depend on default 13:46 mitori yeah. true. 13:47 mitori is there any way to recacultate the light? 13:48 PilzAdam the light in a block is recalculated if a block with ligh_source != 0 is changed (i.e. placed, digged) 13:49 PilzAdam *second block = node 13:49 mitori no 13:49 mitori the thing is 13:49 mitori i have a region (about 5 blocks) 13:49 mitori and it's dark 13:49 mitori being under a sun 13:51 PilzAdam place a torch 13:51 mitori tried that. 13:51 mitori didn't help : ( 13:51 PilzAdam fill the whole region with dirt or something and then dig it away 13:52 kaeza mitori, use the //dig command of worldedit 13:52 mitori ok 13:52 mitori thanks 13:53 kaeza select a block where you think the "fake ceiling" is, and use //dig 13:54 mitori i'll try to do that a bit differently 14:20 PilzAdam nope 14:21 PilzAdam only minetest.net 14:21 PilzAdam but you can still go to the forum 14:21 berome http://forum.minetest.net/index.php is ok 14:21 Kacey !up 213.179.58.83 8001 14:21 Minetest-tan 213.179.58.83:8001 seems to be down 14:21 Kacey really? that is freenode 14:22 PilzAdam ummm... it checks for minetest servers 14:22 kaeza !ping 213.179.58.83 14:22 kaeza ? 14:22 Kacey aah' 14:22 Kacey mt servers 14:23 kaeza !ping 127.0.0.1 14:23 kaeza ... 14:23 kaeza no !ping? 14:23 Kacey !up 127.0.0.1 14:23 Minetest-tan 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.103ms) 14:23 Kacey !coomands 14:23 Kacey !commands 14:24 Kacey ? 14:24 kaeza 14:24 Kacey ok 14:24 Kacey 14:27 Kacey youtube is broken for me :/ 14:27 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.286ms) 14:28 Exio "on linux"? hm? 14:28 Exio in what distro? :P 14:29 Kacey ... i dont have that much time 14:32 Kacey besides it is playing the video but the little buttons dont appear 14:32 kaeza bbl 14:50 Kacey bbl 16:25 markveidemanis hi 16:27 markveidemanis Python and Lua programmers type /me 16:27 markveidemanis you have to be Lua programmer, not minetest modder 16:27 markveidemanis im making a game:D 16:28 markveidemanis help me think pf a name aswell 16:28 markveidemanis *of 16:31 rubenwardy hi all 16:31 PilzAdam hey rubenwardy 16:32 * VanessaE types /me and looks in.. 16:32 VanessaE hi all 16:32 PilzAdam hey VanessaE 16:32 VanessaE how goes 16:33 * PilzAdam has done a win build with GetText 16:33 VanessaE I saw 16:33 VanessaE what does gettext offer? 16:33 VanessaE (I've heard of it but know almost nothing about it) 16:33 PilzAdam translate minetest 16:33 VanessaE ah 16:37 VanessaE the range is -30927 to +30927 right? 16:39 VanessaE (for the map's coords I mean) 16:42 PilzAdam its +/- ~31000 16:42 VanessaE oh ok, wasn't sure if that was the real range or not 16:42 ShadowNinja When I make a commit on github the author shows up as unknown, if I go to the commit page it shows my username but it isn't linked to my account, anyone know why? 16:44 Sh1fty RealBadAngel, what's up with realbadangel.pl? 16:47 marktraceur markveidemanis: This isn't a place for headhunting, please try job boards or places where volunteers look for projects 16:47 marktraceur markveidemanis: http://openhatch.org being one good one 16:47 markveidemanis ok 16:48 markveidemanis Nah, i use github 16:48 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then use that and don't pollute the channel 16:48 markveidemanis 1 more thing 16:49 markveidemanis i need a creative name for a 2D game mixed with 3D 16:49 PilzAdam VanessaE, FAQ added: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65717#p65717 16:49 VanessaE good idea 16:50 VanessaE ..I wonder where it was I got that +/- 30927 from.. 16:50 markveidemanis how about "Bazinga" ? 16:51 PilzAdam I wonder if I should drop the "normal" builds 16:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: no reason to keep them really, everyone has gettext on their systems these days 16:52 marktraceur markveidemanis: How about "off fucking topic" 16:52 markveidemanis ok 16:52 markveidemanis seems fine to me 16:52 * marktraceur is in a bad mood, sorry 16:52 markveidemanis now i need a description 16:52 marktraceur But seriously, ask somewhere else 16:52 sfan5 ^ i agree 16:53 marktraceur I wonder if I can set the "deaf" flag for other users. 16:54 sfan5 what do you mean? 16:54 thexyz marktraceur: that'd be great 16:54 marktraceur thexyz: Sadly you can't 16:54 thexyz because that's user flag, yeah 16:55 marktraceur sfan5: There's a flag you can set on yourself, +D, that prevents you from hearing messages 16:55 sfan5 ah, ok 16:55 sfan5 the ircop should be able to set such flags for users 16:55 marktraceur I wonder why they don't let you set that on others. I guess because it would be too mean. 16:57 markveidemanis i found a name... 16:57 markveidemanis Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about psychic-octo-nemesis. 16:57 markveidemanis lol 16:58 hmmmm aw crap, don't you hate it when you misclick in minetest? http://i.imgur.com/jOJZd.jpg 16:58 VanessaE hahaha 16:59 Umbron2 super a 2 -.- 16:59 berome :-)) 17:00 marktraceur markveidemanis: I'm dead serious, this is not a channel for your inane ramblings about some other game you're writing. 17:00 Umbron2 wow firefox crashed -.-Â² 17:01 markveidemanis Â²? 17:01 VanessaE oh that's a big surprise...not 17:01 markveidemanis Å‚Ã¸Å‚ 17:02 * VanessaE pokes rubenwardy 17:03 rubenwardy hi 17:04 VanessaE PilzAdam, hmmmm: http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/07/17/67/1899993/3/628x471.jpg See? I told you that right-click-and-hold autoplace thing was a bad idea. :-) 17:09 rubenwardy VanessaE, what? How is that relevant? 17:10 VanessaE rubenwardy: it was a joke. :) 17:10 VanessaE [01-31 11:58] aw crap, don't you hate it when you misclick in minetest? http://i.imgur.com/jOJZd.jpg 17:11 Jordach VanessaE, hmmmm, LOLZ 17:12 VanessaE haha 17:14 PilzAdam can anyone explain me why I get framedrops all the time when I play Minetest in wine? 17:14 Jordach because WINE 17:15 Sh1fty PilzAdam, how much work would it be to convert your mobs mod to 3d? 17:15 PilzAdam not much 17:16 markveidemanis i need help with github 17:17 Jordach VanessaE, http://imageshack.us/a/img35/2933/screenshot2388373360.png 17:17 Jordach VISIBLE TOOL IN HAND 17:18 VanessaE doubt that 17:18 VanessaE it was probably dropped. 17:19 PilzAdam Minetest is completly unplayable in wie 17:19 PilzAdam *wine 17:20 markveidemanis yop 17:20 Jordach nah shit, i thought it would run on my TV bios 17:23 PilzAdam lol, video_driver = burningsvideo 17:23 PilzAdam everything is red! 17:23 PilzAdam and 7 FPS 17:24 VanessaE red. shaders. but you knew that. 17:25 PilzAdam video_driver = software segfaults :-( 17:30 VanessaE wine sucks anyway :-) 17:32 bulletrulz VanessaE: not with everything 17:32 VanessaE Jordach: that said, I wonder what prevents us from having handheld tools? 17:32 Jordach nothing 17:34 * Jordach tests my new audio setup 17:34 markveidemanis my ==> his 17:34 markveidemanis who wants to go on my server to see my new bar and have a beer 17:35 markveidemanis you know...like the 0.3.1 times on gameboom server *sniffle 17:36 thexyz PilzAdam: it was completly playable for me a while ago 17:37 marktraceur markveidemanis: What's wrong with GitHub? 17:37 markveidemanis cant find how to upload 17:37 marktraceur Upload....what? 17:38 berome you mean "fork" or instakk git ? 17:38 berome ohh, nice, *install 17:38 marktraceur markveidemanis: What are you uploading? 17:39 markveidemanis idk.. but there is no button 17:39 marktraceur You don't know what you're uploading? That'll make it difficult to upload. 17:39 rubenwardy you can not upload on the internet 17:39 rubenwardy what os do you have? 17:39 PilzAdam markveidemanis, http://dev.minetest.net/Git 17:40 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/GitHub 17:40 rubenwardy If you have windows, they is a GUI version (graphical user interface) 17:42 markveidemanis also...i have a mod request 17:42 markveidemanis not much of a mod but an admin tool 17:42 markveidemanis to stop world render globally 17:42 markveidemanis or to unload the whole world 17:42 rubenwardy ? 17:42 markveidemanis to stop lagg on servers 17:43 rubenwardy would not really help 17:43 rubenwardy kicking players out would be more effective 17:43 rubenwardy unless, 17:43 rubenwardy you mean something that deletes unchanged from mapgen areas 17:43 markveidemanis like a disable camera update but global 17:44 rubenwardy no need. camera update is local 17:51 markveidemanis how do i take out of a chest in pipeworks? 17:52 markveidemanis right, im starting my other server (take cover!) 17:55 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net 17:55 markveidemanis help with pipeworks 17:56 markveidemanis VanessaE 17:56 markveidemanis help with pipeworks 18:24 bulletrulz cm Punk 18:25 marktraceur bulletrulz: What? 18:35 Umbron hi 18:37 marktraceur Umbron: Hi! What's up? 18:38 Umbron so so you? 18:40 marktraceur I'm just workin'. What brings you to #minetest? 18:44 OldCoder ATTN: I am shutting down my worlds for backup 18:59 babyface1031 i have a question what should i do about the game not alowing night it will just give me a message of Good Night! and switch back to day i thought i remembered this happening back when we used 0.4.3 but i cant remember when it happen and what had to be done to fix it 19:00 PilzAdam seems like the beds mod thinks that you are in a bad 19:00 PilzAdam *bed 19:01 PilzAdam its recommended to leave the bed by rightclicking (or leftclick if you use an old version) to prevent such bugs 19:01 babyface1031 thats what i was thinking cause it wont do it if 2 ppl are on 19:02 artur99 hi 19:02 babyface1031 hi artur99 19:03 rotor114 why can't I connect minetest.org 30015? 19:04 artur99 i cant connect either 30010 or 30004 19:04 babyface1031 server down for back ups 19:04 babyface1031 [13:44] ATTN: I am shutting down my worlds for backup 19:04 rotor114 ok 19:05 artur99 how much time will take this? 19:05 artur99 and why the worlds need backup? 19:06 babyface1031 i dont know how long it will take but they are backed up for saftey just so if the worse happens adn the world crashes not everything will be gone 19:06 OldCoder artur99, the worlds need backup to be safe :-) 19:07 OldCoder and it is done now 19:07 OldCoder I am restarting shortly 19:07 artur99 ok 19:07 rotor114 19:08 OldCoder Penguin_, hi 19:08 rotor114 hi 19:08 OldCoder rotor114, hello 19:08 Penguin_ hi oldcoder 19:09 OldCoder ATTN: Worlds are restarted! Backups are made. 19:09 OldCoder artur99, ^ 19:09 rotor114 I can connect to 10015 19:09 rotor114 30015 19:09 OldCoder Does it work for you? 19:09 Penguin_ Octu teams channel ? 19:09 OldCoder 30004 19:09 babyface1031 it works now 19:11 Sh1fty OldCoder, you could try using this: http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/redisfs/ 19:11 webdesigner97 hi. is minetest.net down? I can't access it :/ 19:11 rotor114 the forum not 19:11 rotor114 only the main site 19:11 webdesigner97 ok 19:11 webdesigner97 thx 19:12 Sh1fty redis has copy-on-write forking for backups, so this shouldn't take a lot of ram and i guess you wouldn't have to stop the server to back everything up 19:12 rotor114 it lags 19:13 rotor114 It's not easy to dig at minetest.org 19:22 rotor114 there's a new person at Zegaton 19:23 rotor114 seed = 718889367954862277 19:33 VanessaE markveidemanis: you asked about pipeworks. Use a "filter" to push items from a chest into a tube. either punch it or send mesecons signals to it. 19:41 PilzAdam bye 19:46 VanessaE sowwy 19:46 VanessaE but then, the main domain is down anyway 19:55 harrison i just clone the git repo. now i must compile. strangely i seem not to have "cmake" 19:56 VanessaE should be fairly trivial to obtain :-) 19:56 Taoki http://25.media.tumblr.com/142251408fc0a2446612ef96e7cffbe7/tumblr_mhhkzdIv621qhnszoo1_400.gif Coolest thing I seen in some time 19:57 harrison here is the odd thing: apt-get says that "This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or 19:57 harrison is only available from another source" 19:57 VanessaE Taoki: ow. 19:57 VanessaE you just made my eyes hurt. :) 19:57 Taoki :P 19:57 harrison Old concept, glossy new instantiation 19:58 VanessaE that'll fuck your your head though. 19:58 harrison oh, we KNEW recursion back in the day 19:59 harrison and we oldtimers LIKED it 19:59 harrison it was all we knew 19:59 VanessaE heh 19:59 VanessaE which explains why you old farts are stuck in the past :-) 20:00 harrison strange then that the future of graphics tech is not flowing from YOUR keyboard "VanessaE" 20:00 VanessaE heh 20:00 marktraceur harrison: You understood recursion because it interested you, and it interested you because you understood it. 20:00 VanessaE please. I'm an old bat also :-0 20:00 VanessaE you want the latest in graphics tech, look to the teenagers of this era. 20:01 harrison Sorry, no. 20:01 harrison There was a strong hidden claim in my snarky comment above. 20:01 harrison (implied) 20:01 VanessaE (besides, in the MT community, I'd like to think I've already been doing that :-) ) 20:02 harrison MT is headed in the direction provided by your guidance? 20:02 VanessaE nope. 20:02 VanessaE not really. 20:02 harrison Or rather, you ar MT headed? 20:02 VanessaE no one actually gives a shit about what I do except for a few people 20:03 VanessaE :P 20:03 harrison Compared to me, you pander to the plebes then. 20:04 harrison Oh, Ihave a channel here on teh freenodes and I would be delighted if you would join it and insult me at yeur leisue 20:04 harrison #spasim 20:04 harrison we have a strict allops policy 20:05 harrison your leisure 20:06 Jordach biscuits in my presense please 20:06 harrison THERE IS ONLY ONE COOKIE 20:06 Jordach (i hate US ENGLISH) 20:06 Jordach 'tis not English 20:06 harrison or a countably infinite number of cookies 20:07 * Jordach eats the /gif to eat endless cookies 20:07 harrison You are trying to aggravate me. 20:07 harrison Obviously they are the SAME COOKIE 20:08 harrison ar across the pond they would say "bilocated biscuit" 20:08 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net, best thing to happen to minetest 20:08 Jordach even though minetest.net is down, the forums are not! 20:09 harrison forums are but a pale evocation of the full glory that is irc 20:12 marktraceur As The Streets says, "The differences in language are just the bits you got wrong, 'cause we were the ones who invented the language" 20:12 marktraceur (that's my favourite rap quote ever) 20:14 harrison cisoun hlo 20:14 VanessaE bbl 20:14 harrison remember when we were trapped underground ? 20:17 cisoun sup' 20:18 * marktraceur imagines harrison and cisoun saying "We're going to pull a Panama!" 20:18 marktraceur Jordach would be in the background saying "No! NO PANAMA!" 20:18 cisoun harrison: hell yeah 20:18 cisoun long time ago 20:18 harrison for a youngster such as yourself time seems longer.... 20:18 harrison for me, it was fairly recent 20:19 cisoun haha 20:19 Jordach marktraceur, ha 20:25 harrison cisoun my latest 4 films: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuIgg2cySo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaE2_pnoQ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd91KZyptlQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLyYl4YSRA 20:31 OldCoder Hi 20:31 cisoun harrison: nice reverb man ! 20:31 cisoun glad you're still working on this ! 8) 20:31 * OldCoder must go to San Jose again today. If anybody wishes changes please present a list this evening 20:31 harrison oh cisoun you have no idea how obsessed i am 20:32 cisoun that's good to have a passion ! 20:32 harrison if i cannot code i froth at the mouth and must be sedated 20:32 cisoun harrison: which application it is on the 4th video ? 20:32 harrison you mean reverb on the first one, "downloading.."? 20:33 cisoun yeup 20:33 harrison 4th video is http://code.google.com/p/reaction-diffusion/ 20:34 harrison you have a multicore box right? 20:34 harrison i7 or such? 20:34 harrison linux? 20:34 cisoun yes 20:34 harrison like all the popular kids do? 20:34 cisoun rofl 20:35 harrison http://code.google.com/p/xenoxolotl-spasim/source/checkout 20:35 harrison grab that if you would be so kind 20:35 cisoun I don't have the time right now :( 20:35 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaGFzdg/simpleinv-1.zip <- for of unified inventory for creative/more default look 20:35 cisoun I have some math exams next week. 20:35 Jordach cisoun, nice 20:35 cisoun FOURIER SERIES/TRANSFORM BITCHEEZ 20:36 harrison i didn't say we have to do anything 20:36 harrison just clone it so we can use it later 20:36 harrison it's fairly large 20:36 harrison at most i would ask you to run a single command and find out what error it gives 20:38 cisoun aw sorry man, not this evening, I really have to work 20:38 cisoun by the way, i'm out for a while 20:51 cisoun kinda. worst nightmare for engineering students. 20:54 RealBadAngel hi all 20:55 nickroseville hello all, just downloaded minetest and am having prolbems connecting to a server, getting an error about my client isnt supported. i'm on win7 and have the version off the website, 0.4.1 20:55 sapier1 nickroseville: most likely you're trying to connect to a development server 20:56 nickroseville minetest.cloud.tilaa.org is tyhe last server i was trying to connect to 20:57 sapier I don't know what version this server is using 20:58 nickroseville server's protocol_version is 13...15 clients protocol_version is 11...11 is the exact error from the terminal window 20:59 harrison woohoo i have just built minetest 20:59 harrison first time in over a year prolly 20:59 harrison i do hope the rat is still there 21:00 sapier nope 21:00 sapier no rats 21:00 sapier except you're using mobf 21:00 harrison do you remember it? 21:00 harrison it was 2d 21:00 harrison and it wandered around 21:00 sapier now it's 3d 21:01 harrison what server should i see first? 21:01 sapier if you like mobs try one of oldcoders 21:01 nickroseville so is there a 044 version of minetest for windows 7? 21:01 sapier but rats are rare 21:01 nickroseville the download link on the website downliads 0.4.1 21:01 nickroseville i dont see where to get a diffrent version 21:01 harrison can you phrase your answer in the form of a address/port? 21:02 Jordach nickroseville, try READING 21:02 sapier oops didn't read this previous ... you should try to get 0.4.4-d1 21:02 nickroseville i HAVE. i am USING THE minetest website's download link... which is 0.4.1 21:02 sapier harrison sorry I can't 21:02 nickroseville i'm tryi9ng to get an answerr here, not be treated line an all 21:02 nickroseville like an ass 21:03 Jordach nickroseville, minetest.com is OUT OF DATE and NOT UPDATED 21:03 Jordach https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.4-win32.zip 21:03 nickroseville ok. then what server can i connect to and stuff? and what is the up to date site 21:03 Jordach minetest.net 21:03 Jordach and forum.minetest.net since the forums are 10% up now 21:03 sapier jordach who is responsible for minetest.com can someone replace it by a redirect to minetest.net or at least a outdated notification? 21:03 Jordach john_minetest, yes i know 21:03 Jordach sapier, dunno 21:07 Sh1fty minetest.net should be hosted somewhere else 21:07 Sh1fty it looks like it's hosted on someone's home server 21:17 bulletrulz is minetest net up yet? 21:19 RealBadAngel seems to be down 21:19 RealBadAngel Sh1fty, my domain should return in a few days 21:19 Sh1fty RealBadAngel, serious problems? 21:19 RealBadAngel i just paid bill i should paid last month, but forgot to ;) 21:21 RealBadAngel i will call operator tommorow and ask when it will be accesible again 21:21 bulletrulz xD 21:24 bulletrulz time to get half life :D 21:27 bulletrulz 50 mbs done :D 150 to go :D 21:28 marktraceur bulletrulz: This isn't #halflife 21:29 bulletrulz marktraceur: i know but i like sharing xD 21:30 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: hows bedrock going? 21:31 RealBadAngel two nerds talkig: come to me today, there will be a party, music, beer and chicks. -Cool! how many chicks? -8gB! 21:31 bulletrulz lol no its a game 21:31 bulletrulz xD 21:31 RealBadAngel bulletrulz, bedrock? 21:32 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: BEDROCK OS? 21:32 RealBadAngel im not quite sure what are you talkin about ;) 21:33 dimeshake bedrock linux looks cool, but i've no reason to try it 21:33 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: bedrock linux? 21:33 RealBadAngel im using bedrock solid one, but its debian squeeze ;) 21:34 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: so u an run rpms on it also right? 21:34 RealBadAngel rpm stuff is redhat 21:34 RealBadAngel debian is deb package format 21:35 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: i know but isint bedrock linux able to run that or just arch linux 21:35 dimeshake RealBadAngel: bedrock linux is a system that allows several distros to be installed side by side, using packages from any of them on a single amalgamated platform 21:35 dimeshake hence his questions about being able to use RPM on your system as well 21:36 RealBadAngel that may be good for newbies. i do prefer to compile from source 21:37 RealBadAngel thus i dont need such bedrock 21:37 RealBadAngel even multiboot is gone. windows been dismissed 21:38 dimeshake eh, it's certainly not noobie friendly. it's just a different approach 21:38 RealBadAngel propably yes, but i really dont need it 21:39 RealBadAngel one and only thing i miss now is flex builder, but i guess i shall read more bout eclipse 21:41 dimeshake http://bedrocklinux.org/ 21:41 dimeshake read their intro 21:42 dimeshake i'm not saying it's good, or anyone should use it, it's just interesting 21:42 dimeshake abuse of chroots :) 21:42 RealBadAngel better is always an enemy of good 21:43 RealBadAngel so i think with such ideas one can expect lotsa BSOD's in linux manner ;) 21:44 RealBadAngel http://media02.hongkiat.com/bsod/bluewindow.jpg 21:45 Sh1fty i can't imagine a situation in which you'd want to run that 21:46 RealBadAngel me neither 21:46 Sh1fty with lxc and kvm, you have all your needs covered 21:47 RealBadAngel i got my own, squeeze 21:47 RealBadAngel last rebooted mid december 21:47 RealBadAngel when i added new soundcard 21:48 Sh1fty i turn my desktop off every night :) 21:49 Sh1fty i have arch on all boxes at home and squeeze at work 21:49 RealBadAngel you know when electric stuff get broken at most? 21:49 Sh1fty yeah 21:49 RealBadAngel when you turn it on and off 21:49 dimeshake http://lwn.net/Articles/515709/ 21:49 Sh1fty but computers are designed for it 21:49 Sh1fty only servers are designed to run 24/7 21:50 RealBadAngel sure it sleeps sometimes, turns off hdd etc 21:50 RealBadAngel but since 3 yrs wasnt really turned off 21:50 RealBadAngel just when i was adding somethin to the hardware 21:51 RealBadAngel john_minetest, indeed 21:51 Sh1fty i usually buy a new desktop every 3-5 years 21:52 RealBadAngel i also need to buy new one 21:52 RealBadAngel maybe this summer 21:52 Sh1fty last time my motherboard burned down :D 21:52 RealBadAngel im talkin summer because that time i dont have to buy coal lol 21:52 RealBadAngel so i got more spare money ;) 21:53 Sh1fty :D 21:53 Sh1fty for your furnace? :D 21:53 RealBadAngel lol kind of 21:53 RealBadAngel its fuckin winter there now 21:53 RealBadAngel and coal is not so cheap 21:54 Sh1fty geothermal heating ftw 21:55 Sh1fty as long as you have electricity :D 21:55 Sh1fty real world needs redstone engines :) 21:55 RealBadAngel sure, i will start to dig holes all around to find a source 21:55 Sh1fty no source, you just plant some pipes 21:56 RealBadAngel sorry sir, got an idea, can i dig over your house? 21:56 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump#Horizontal 21:56 Sh1fty next to it 21:56 Sh1fty friends of mine have that set up 21:56 Sh1fty heating in the winter costs them <$100 a month 21:57 Sh1fty decent insulation is also important 21:57 RealBadAngel shit, you had to remind me :P 21:57 Sh1fty :D 21:57 Sh1fty of what? 21:57 RealBadAngel insulation 21:57 RealBadAngel i need to make it this year 21:58 RealBadAngel have new windows already 21:58 Sh1fty you're in germany? 21:58 RealBadAngel poland 21:58 Sh1fty your country is in the news today :D 21:58 RealBadAngel oh rly? what for? 21:59 Sh1fty EU funds 21:59 RealBadAngel we want to pay more or get more? ;) 22:00 Sh1fty neither, you were supposed to get more, but didn't :D 22:00 RealBadAngel oh those bastards 22:00 RealBadAngel i knew it 22:00 Sh1fty hehe 22:01 Sh1fty we should have those in minetest 22:01 Sh1fty with 0.00001% chance of giving you ability to fly :D 22:01 RealBadAngel btw 22:01 RealBadAngel Sh1fty, john_minetest how old are you? 22:01 Sh1fty 23 i think 22:01 Sh1fty i always forget 22:01 RealBadAngel lol 22:02 Sh1fty yup 22:02 RealBadAngel so you both propably wont get it but i will try 22:02 Sh1fty last.fm says i'm 23 and i believe it :) 22:02 RealBadAngel (im 40 btw) 22:02 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU 22:05 marktraceur Heh. 22:05 Sh1fty hehe 22:05 Sh1fty i'm not that young :) 22:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I have sort of the opposite feeling. I'm sad that shooters aren't more realistic more often. 22:06 marktraceur Hostile Intent....I miss you so much.... 22:07 Sh1fty i loved cs 1.6 :) 22:07 RealBadAngel is Heroes Of Might And Magic III any good for ya? 22:09 marktraceur john_minetest: Who is crying? And why? 22:09 marktraceur Ah. 22:09 marktraceur That much, I think, I can understand 22:09 marktraceur German politics is fraught with concern about military power. 22:11 marktraceur Yeah, COD is realistic. Pff. 22:11 marktraceur (I don't know the others well enough to scoff, but I suspect I would) 22:11 Sh1fty john_minetest, that's because i didn't play the other ones 22:12 Sh1fty actually, i did play first cod and moh, but they were crappy 22:12 Sh1fty i liked bf vietnam :) 22:12 Sh1fty music was great, maps were big and you had choppers :) 22:12 * marktraceur considers whether it would be easy to do an H/I-like mod for a free shooter. Probably not. 22:22 RealBadAngel anybody here remember UT2? 22:22 marktraceur Yeeeees. 22:22 RealBadAngel i was a sniper in my clan 22:22 RealBadAngel THAT was gaming 22:22 Sh1fty finally done with work, time for minetest :) 22:24 RealBadAngel not to mention some older games 22:24 RealBadAngel like Duke Nukem 3D, Warcraft 2 22:25 RealBadAngel they do have INCREDIBLE playability 22:25 RealBadAngel from time to time we gather and make whole night session of warcraft II 22:26 RealBadAngel fuck the WOW 22:26 RealBadAngel it doesnt have same feelin 22:26 marktraceur Well duh, it's an MMORPG. 22:26 RealBadAngel thus fucked up 22:26 marktraceur Naw, just not the same 22:27 RealBadAngel they have chosen a direction 22:27 marktraceur I mean, it's fucked up for other reasons, but ain't nobody cares. 22:27 RealBadAngel nothin like 6hrs long duel 1vs1 human vs orcs 22:27 Sh1fty warcraft 3 was where it went wrong :D 22:27 RealBadAngel until last mine is emptu 22:28 RealBadAngel empty 22:28 Sh1fty i wasted a lot of hours on warcraft 2 22:29 RealBadAngel idk if you folks are aware of it 22:29 RealBadAngel but those games have been remade 22:29 RealBadAngel duke, wc2 and others 22:29 RealBadAngel by community 22:30 Sh1fty one of my favourite new games is hitman: sniper challenge 22:30 Sh1fty too bad they didn't make a whole game out of it 22:30 * marktraceur is happy with Minetest and some other small distraction games :) 22:31 marktraceur FLARE, too. That's been fun to watch. 22:31 bulletrulz I am AWESOME JK 22:31 bulletrulz im stupid 22:32 bulletrulz lol trolololol 22:32 RealBadAngel example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm3gAacXJso 22:33 marktraceur bulletrulz: What the hell? 22:34 RealBadAngel http://wargus.sourceforge.net/index.shtml 22:34 RealBadAngel its possible to play WC2 in HD 22:36 bulletrulz whats i good server? 22:41 marktraceur bulletrulz: Look at the list. http://servers.minetest.ru/ 22:46 RealBadAngel or http://minetest.org/worlds.html 22:48 Sh1fty what are hardware reqs for minetest servers? 22:48 marktraceur Sh1fty: A CPU, some memory, and hopefully a network connection. 22:48 marktraceur Storage helps 22:48 Sh1fty hahaha 22:59 RealBadAngel even Raspberry PI can handle MT server 23:00 RealBadAngel http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1903 23:00 marktraceur Why did you capitalize PI? 23:00 RealBadAngel because its called so 23:00 marktraceur Uh, no, it's not 23:01 RealBadAngel maybe Pi 23:01 RealBadAngel ok :P 23:02 marktraceur Just like when people say "LUA". It's Lua. 23:02 RealBadAngel sure 23:02 Sh1fty how many users can it run? 23:03 RealBadAngel but you know what "pedantic" means? ;) 23:03 Sh1fty i was thinking of running a small server for maybe a couple of friends on an atom box 23:03 RealBadAngel try Pi 23:03 RealBadAngel its cheap 23:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Yeah, it's an adjective for "good at crushing small hive insects with feet" 23:03 Sh1fty don't have a pi, but i do have an atom box in a DC :) 23:03 RealBadAngel lol 23:04 RealBadAngel Pi is an creditd card sized computer 23:10 RealBadAngel fully functional, 512mb of ram, network, usb, hardware video encoder, card slot 23:10 RealBadAngel can run linux on it 23:10 RealBadAngel thus server too 23:10 RealBadAngel costs circa 40$ 23:10 RealBadAngel bad? 23:10 RealBadAngel goooood 23:10 RealBadAngel you got wrong monitor then ;) 23:10 berome still pre-order or production is ok now ? 23:10 RealBadAngel i do have 2pcs here 23:10 RealBadAngel arrived last week 23:10 berome yes but I mean I discover it today, can I have one in five days ? 23:10 RealBadAngel i want to put one into the keyboard chasis 23:10 RealBadAngel to make internet surfing unit 23:10 RealBadAngel when i will be using this main box shall remain shut 23:10 RealBadAngel if Pi is able to run quake 3 and xbmc its fast enough 23:10 berome RealBadAngel: you gaot two last week, but odered long ago ? 23:10 RealBadAngel waited circa 1,5 month 23:10 berome hmm, ok, thanks. 23:10 RealBadAngel but shit it was worth waitin like hell 23:10 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: u got pi? 23:10 berome sure ! 23:10 berome two 23:10 RealBadAngel i got 2 23:10 harrison_ Is "Is it a meme?" a meme? 23:11 RealBadAngel i have even an idea for a business 23:11 RealBadAngel build in Pi in a keyboard case 23:12 RealBadAngel and sell it together with a power supply 23:12 RealBadAngel this plus a monitor will make fully functional internet computer 23:13 marktraceur var isIt = function ( str ) { return 'Is "' + isIt( str ) + '" a meme?'; }; console.log( isIt( 'Is it a meme?' ) ); 23:14 RealBadAngel 40 for PI, like 15$ for keys and supply, plus around 20$ for me would make 75$ ready to play system 23:14 RealBadAngel thats fuckin cheap 23:18 berome yes, price/ watt consomation/power ratio is the feature, in fact 23:18 berome because you can find "client lÃ©ger" for free, a lot more powerfull, but not working on 5V 23:20 berome "client lÃ©ger"is thin client 23:20 RealBadAngel is github down? 23:23 RealBadAngel http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/RaspberryPi.jpg/300px-RaspberryPi.jpg 23:31 VanessaE hi all 23:31 * VanessaE is back. 23:31 VanessaE (yay.) 23:34 Sh1fty wb 23:35 Kacey hi guys 23:35 Kacey and gals 23:36 Kacey Nickserv appears to be down... 23:36 Kacey brbr 23:36 Kacey brb 23:37 Kacey hello anyone on? 23:38 Sh1fty is there any mobs mod that uses gambit's models? 23:39 Kacey aah much better 23:40 Kacey hi all 23:49 bulletrulz hi Kacey 23:56 * Kacey wants to work on mesecons projects but cant 23:58 marktraceur Kacey: Define "can't".