Time Nick Message 00:02 OldCoder Back 00:02 OldCoder Kacey, k 00:15 Kacey dinner 00:16 NekoGloop Meow 00:19 sapier funny nobody seams to recognize if a fish swims tail front :-) 00:31 FreeFull sapier: How many fish do that? 00:33 sapier at least fish_blue white is swiming wrong way since mesh model was added 00:35 telek Hrmm. 00:35 telek voxel.js 00:35 telek Possible to write a minetest client against it? 00:44 Kacey back 00:45 kaeza wb 00:47 Kacey ty 01:01 Kacey if(B) sbi(C,A) 01:01 Kacey is that good code for a microcontroller? 01:04 VanessaE put a semicolon at the end. 01:05 Kacey -_- a freaking semicolon 01:05 Kacey ty though 01:05 VanessaE np. 01:05 Kacey made a d-flip-flop 01:20 Kacey hello 01:20 Kacey i made a d-flip-flop 01:22 VanessaE cool 01:22 Kacey that durn semicolon 01:23 sapier [MOBF 1.9.15 - feature freeze release prior to 2.0] http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 01:24 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhpcg/screenshot_2020581894.png my overly complicated lock 01:25 VanessaE that's some lock :-) 01:26 sapier what are those chips in this circuit? 01:27 Kacey AND gates 01:27 VanessaE at the left, microcontrollers. Everything else is AND gates 01:27 Kacey haha so many RS-flops 01:27 Kacey it is a little complicated 01:27 sapier thats next to cheating ;-) ... semiconductors ... tztz 01:27 VanessaE damn right :-) 01:29 Kacey more mesecons inventions 01:29 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvMA/screenshot_2040406637.png basic d-flop 01:30 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvMQ/screenshot_2040418785.png 7 seg display 01:30 sapier I wonder why everyone thinks porting halflife to linux is a big achievement ... halflife is quake1 engine ... quake1 runs on linux for ages 01:30 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvMg/screenshot_2040425920.png lightstone thing 01:31 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvMw/screenshot_2040434142.png big d-flop that goes to my door 01:31 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvNA/screenshot_2040446345.png the door 01:32 VanessaE what are these white blocks you're building on anyway? 01:32 sapier i once needed a whole cave in minecraft to create a 6 bit lock ... using flipflops seams like cheating 01:32 VanessaE (and why are they glowing in some places?_ 01:32 Kacey cloud blocks and lighting glitches 01:33 VanessaE sapier: no moreso than using a couple of 7474's instead of dozens of transistors in a real circuit. 01:33 VanessaE Kacey: get worldedit from git, select a HUGE area around the glitches (especially above), use the //fixlight command 01:34 Kacey i have worldedit 01:34 VanessaE is it the latest git with //fixlight ? 01:35 Kacey no but idc about the lighting bug 01:35 VanessaE ok 01:36 VanessaE sfan5|OFF: suggestion, if the user specifies //set air or //replace xxxx air, automatically run //fixlight on the nodes that were modified 01:36 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhvNQ/screenshot_2040893380.png huh nice concept 01:41 * VanessaE waits for minetestmapper.py to finish... 01:43 Kacey haha 01:44 VanessaE hmmmm: is it normal for a world to have sharp transitions between parts generated by the mapgen from before your "let's call it v6 and add a framework for v7" update and that which was generated after? 01:45 Kacey afk 01:47 hmmmm not at all 01:47 hmmmm vanessa, screenshot? 01:47 VanessaE ok. Guess I spotted a bug then :-) 01:47 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png 01:47 VanessaE look toward the bottom center area around -675 or so. 01:48 hmmmm yeah i see it... 01:48 hmmmm wtf i tested for this 01:48 hmmmm vanessa, i'm really sorry 01:48 VanessaE it's okay 01:49 hmmmm once it's fixed we can delete those blocks manually and regenerate it the right way 01:49 VanessaE I only just noticed it a few mins ago in fact. 01:49 VanessaE you can do this! 01:49 VanessaE ? 01:49 VanessaE manually delete blocks from the map file I mean 01:49 hmmmm obviously. 01:49 hmmmm the map file is just a database 01:50 VanessaE cool. I've been wanting, for a long while, to pretty much delete everything not already occupied by a structure of one sort or another just to let the map regenerate with my trees etc 01:51 hmmmm omg that is completely different 01:51 hmmmm wtf 01:51 VanessaE if the data is useful, the world file is at http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.tar.bz2 01:51 hmmmm what's your map seed? 01:51 VanessaE um, good question 01:51 VanessaE hold 01:51 VanessaE seed = 1432999081304730680 01:51 VanessaE hey bas080. 01:51 bas080 Hey VanessaE 01:52 VanessaE hmmmm: that world file should have all of the default data including all the mgv6* stuff in map_meta.txt 02:00 VanessaE hmmmm: I remember seeing similar things on one of my really old (now long lost) maps when it was imported from 0.3.x to 0.4.x 02:02 hmmmm christ..... 1.3GB 02:02 hmmmm i've gotta only save chunk differences fast 02:02 hmmmm ah most if it is rollback apparently 02:02 VanessaE ? 02:03 VanessaE oh 02:03 VanessaE I figured those changes were stored a log or something, not in the map, per se. 02:03 hmmmm they are 02:03 hmmmm rollback.txt is 1.0GB 02:03 VanessaE oh haha 02:03 VanessaE I didn't 02:04 VanessaE I didn't think to exclude it from the archive 02:04 VanessaE sorry about that 02:04 hmmmm it's okay 02:08 hmmmm omg i have no idea where to even start 02:09 * VanessaE updates her script accordingly 02:09 VanessaE leave it to me to make life difficult for you :-/ 02:10 hmmmm alright this might not take 5 minutes 02:10 hmmmm sorry 02:11 VanessaE it's okay 02:11 VanessaE shit happens 02:11 VanessaE I'm sorry for springing this on you so suddenly :) 02:21 kaeza night all 02:21 VanessaE night kaeza 02:27 hmmmm 704, 0, 0 02:27 hmmmm oh shit i know exactly what the problem is 02:27 hmmmm this is difficult to fix too 02:28 VanessaE oh boy. 02:28 hmmmm er no, nevermind, that's not a problem 02:28 hmmmm but it's something that may be a problem in the future when people start using different spread factors 02:30 VanessaE great, now my server won't start. 02:30 * VanessaE wonders what she broke :-/ 02:33 VanessaE ok something is fucked up - it won't start even with no mods installed. 02:33 VanessaE ok, it's one of the player files. 02:34 VanessaE oh well, fuck it. Everyone loses their inventories and spawn locations. 02:34 VanessaE they can all start out from the static spawn. it's not like items have any value on this server, being creative mode. 02:40 OldCoder It will be fine 02:40 VanessaE OldCoder: first, PlayerArgsEnd, then "too many items" in another file, now one of them is causing the server to lock up on the way up. 02:41 VanessaE so they're all moved out of the way and things are good again. 02:45 VanessaE I hope this isn't a sign of some deeper problem on my machine or so 02:46 mauvebic failing drive type problem? 02:46 VanessaE doubt it 02:46 VanessaE but I hope not 02:46 mauvebic ive experienced every type of hardware failure imaginable :P from hard drives to fans to leaking capacitors on the mobo lol 02:48 mauvebic refurbished often means recalled or defective lol 02:48 VanessaE a geek friend of mine years ago always told me, refurbished also means "whatever is going to break has already broken and been fixed" 02:49 VanessaE e.g. probably safer than brand new 02:49 mauvebic you'd be surprised sometimes lol 02:49 VanessaE no I wouldn't :-) 02:49 VanessaE I've had my share of hardware failures 02:49 mauvebic there were a couple of shops where i used to live that bought these defective computers and just sold them as is 02:49 VanessaE from literally smoked chips to mechanical failure to you name it 02:49 VanessaE now that's stupid 02:50 mauvebic yeah, though... theyre useful for parts 02:50 mauvebic you can get a refurbished for 100$ sometimes, and its got enough parts for my P4 to tough it out another 2-3 years 02:51 VanessaE well all I know is I've bought refurb for years and never had a failure that wouldn't have happened to a brand new item in less time anyway :) 02:51 VanessaE but then, I can't begin to count how many spinning rust drives I've had fail over the users 02:51 VanessaE s/users/years/ 02:52 mauvebic two months ago was the first time i had a drive fail on me while in the case lol 02:53 hmmmm jeez 02:53 hmmmm woah the mapgen used to be slow as anything 02:54 VanessaE hmmmm: it is indeed faster now 02:54 hmmmm vanessa, the regression happened before my commits 02:54 VanessaE oh? 02:54 VanessaE figures. 02:54 hmmmm i am looking at the same coordinates from c691d619c2 02:54 VanessaE at least you know you didn't break it :D 02:55 VanessaE I'll be back in 30-45 mins. 02:55 hmmmm yeah i knew it wasn't my stuff breaking because i tested it 02:56 hmmmm vs. 0.4.4-d1 02:56 hmmmm what's the last version you upgraded from? 02:56 hmmmm we can do a binary search on the commits to find where stuff went wrong 02:57 VanessaE I pull from git occasionally. I *think* my last major update was to ...well in fact I think it was THAT commit. 02:57 VanessaE c691d619c2 I mean. 02:58 VanessaE before that was probably 443bbe6z78[...] 02:58 VanessaE er, s/z/a/ 02:58 VanessaE so probably between those two commits is where it went wrong 02:58 hmmmm well i'll look for things in that range that might've broken this 02:58 VanessaE anyway, bbiab. 02:58 hmmmm but now here's the thing 02:58 hmmmm even if i do find it 02:58 hmmmm what are we going to do, fix it? 02:59 hmmmm the regression has been around for a couple months now or something 02:59 VanessaE no way, it ain't that old 02:59 VanessaE a couple weeks tops 02:59 VanessaE out for real now ---> 03:05 hmmmm it happened before it hit 0.4.4 03:05 hmmmm this is kind of old 03:07 hmmmm http://i.imgur.com/on90b3o.jpg 03:08 hmmmm compare that to ~704,0 in your world overview 03:08 hmmmm i'm going to say this isn't my bug at all, sorry vanessa :p 03:32 Kacey hello all 03:33 jojoa1997 kacey hunger games? 03:33 Kacey ? 03:34 jojoa1997 go on 0gb.us:30002 and see 03:34 jojoa1997 it is a hunger games server 03:34 Kacey !up 0gb.us 30002 03:34 Minetest-tan 0gb.us:30002 is up (0.393ms) 03:34 jojoa1997 join 03:34 Kacey i dont like the hunger games anyways 03:35 jojoa1997 oh ok nvm 03:36 Kacey maybe 0gb.us would host a mesecons server for me... 03:36 jojoa1997 no he is only doing this temporarily 03:36 jojoa1997 just for a couple weeks 03:41 Kacey :-/ 03:41 Kacey nobody will host a server for me 03:41 Kacey maybe M13 he likes me 03:46 harrison I like the rat 03:47 harrison I hope it is still in mine test 03:52 Kacey i am making a basic RAM unit 03:56 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyioWC3S2PY using this for reference 04:04 * VanessaE has returned. 04:04 VanessaE hmmmm: any idea what caused it? 04:04 Kacey wb VanessaE 04:05 VanessaE OldCoder: a world/game/etc update is available 04:07 VanessaE thanks 04:08 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4598 please move sil vous plait :-) 04:08 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhwZg/screenshot_2049999626.png can you tell what this is? 04:09 VanessaE Kacey: RAS/CAS addressing layout? 04:09 Kacey ? 04:09 Kacey uum no 04:10 VanessaE heh 04:10 Kacey RAM unit (wip) 04:10 VanessaE RAM (DRAM) uses rows and column addresses :-) 04:10 VanessaE RAS = Row Address Strobe 04:11 Kacey ? 04:11 VanessaE nevermind :) 04:11 Kacey it is still a work in progress but you know 04:12 Kacey btw thanks for that help with the d-flop 04:12 hmmmm vanessa, i do not, but whatever it is, it's definitely more than 2 months old. 04:12 VanessaE shows how much my map gets explored then 04:13 hmmmm hah, that's awesome, you're making ram in minetest 04:13 Kacey ya 04:13 hmmmm EE seems really funl 04:13 Kacey im working towards a computer 04:13 hmmmm fun* 04:13 Kacey im using minecraft vids and making them in minetest 04:14 Kacey (with some cheats of course) :P 04:14 hmmmm lol 04:15 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xTEfU1ODiI 04:15 Kacey you know... 04:16 Kacey someone should make review vids on my projects 04:18 VanessaE hmmmm: well I did make a mention in the server topic about resetting the map... 04:19 OldCoder hi 04:19 OldCoder VanessaE, I know, t y 04:19 VanessaE hi 04:19 OldCoder Hi! 04:19 OldCoder VanessaE, PM 04:27 VanessaE so far I got no consensus on resetting the map. 1 reset & copy all useful structures, 1 reset and start over from scratch, 1 no reset. 04:30 Kacey flip a coin 04:32 jojoa1997 ]i say restart from sscratch 04:35 hmmmm oh my god i'm dying here 04:35 hmmmm more questions than answers 04:35 VanessaE ? 04:35 hmmmm so many bugs 04:35 hmmmm i am about to give up and do something else 04:35 VanessaE are you still fighting it out trying to find the map regression? 04:36 hmmmm nope, i'm working on what i was doing before 04:36 VanessaE oh ok 04:36 Kacey bbl 04:36 hmmmm yeah i'm done with that one so i can figure out this one 04:36 hmmmm it's nuts 05:22 Kacey hello all 05:24 mauvebic blasts! i could use more beer but i let the chauffeur have the rolls tonight :/ 05:24 Kacey haha 05:25 * Kacey hands mauvebic a beer 05:25 mauvebic hmm, if i had a chauffeur id prolly be drinking fancy-ass wine with a bunch of posers lol 05:25 Kacey have one on me 05:26 mauvebic at this point its half past midnight so naturally were making coffee :p 05:26 * Kacey throws coffee beans at mauvebic 05:27 Kacey it is about half past 10 here 05:27 mauvebic midwest? 05:27 Kacey colorado 05:28 mauvebic so in relation to vancouver.... to south or south-east? lol 05:28 Kacey vancouver is where in canada? 05:28 Kacey east? 05:28 Kacey west? 05:29 mauvebic west coast 05:29 mauvebic above seattle 05:29 mauvebic well washington state 05:29 mauvebic true story: i aced history at 100%, failed geography at 4% lol 05:30 Kacey how are you later than me? 05:30 mauvebic well im on eastern time 05:31 Kacey aah 05:31 Kacey im in mst 05:31 mauvebic mountain time? 05:34 Kacey ya 05:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloBPxqV7sM 05:36 Kacey omg my sides hurt from this 05:37 Kacey PING 05:44 Kacey stupid wifi 05:50 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoO3K5vOEg 05:50 Kacey haha 05:56 Kacey herpderp 06:06 Kacey Doc22, PING 06:06 Doc22 what 06:06 khonkhortisan Pong: wrong return address 06:07 Doc22 hmm 06:07 Kacey haha 06:07 Kacey i made a basic RAM card with mesecons 06:07 khonkhortisan Are you going to go multi-process? 06:10 Kacey idk i still have to perfect the basic one lol 06:12 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhwZg/screenshot_2049999626.png the last screen i took of it 06:24 Kacey trolololo 06:25 khonkhortisan trolo: it looks small 06:30 * Kacey pokes VanessaE 06:31 VanessaE ow. 06:31 Kacey ^_^ 06:32 Kacey my RAM looks awesome 06:33 VanessaE cool 06:34 Kacey anyone interested in making a server for a group build of mesecons? 06:35 khonkhortisan I would go there 06:38 Kacey but we need someone to make and host a server for it 06:40 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI9rcHXr3uw 06:42 Kacey complicated... 06:48 Kacey 0001 06:48 Kacey 0010 06:48 Kacey 0100 06:49 Kacey 1000 06:49 Kacey 0011 06:49 Kacey 0101 06:49 Kacey 0110 06:49 Kacey 0111 06:49 Kacey 1001 06:49 Kacey 1010 06:49 Kacey 1011 06:49 Kacey 1101 06:50 Kacey 1110 06:50 Kacey 1111 06:50 hmmmm please stop flooding the channel 06:50 Kacey sorry 06:50 hmmmm it's okay 06:50 Kacey i was counting 06:50 Kacey in binary 06:50 hmmmm rotary binary encoding 06:50 hmmmm or actually no 06:51 hmmmm dunno what that is supposed to be 06:51 Kacey binary 06:51 Kacey 0001 is 1 06:51 Kacey 0010 is 2 06:51 Kacey all the way up to 15 06:51 hmmmm and is 0100 supposed to be 3? 06:53 Kacey no 06:54 Kacey 0011 is 3 06:54 hmmmm you can't really say you were counting then 06:54 Kacey (+8)(+4)(+2)(+1) 06:54 hmmmm "1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 7, frosted butts, 4, SHIT!" 06:54 hmmmm "i messed up again!" 06:54 Kacey i only said the bases first lol 06:55 Kacey Jeija hi 06:55 Kacey i made a RAM card using mesecons 06:59 Jeija hi Kacey, nice! 07:00 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDhwZg/screenshot_2049999626.png it looks different now but i am too lazy to take a new screenshot of it 07:11 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhFsuB5AKc garaunteed lag 07:14 khonkhortisan worldedit 07:15 Kacey ? 07:16 khonkhortisan it's easier to make that with worldedit 07:16 khonkhortisan and you can see the sandwave further than you can see the redstone on 07:17 Kacey make what with worldedit? 07:17 khonkhortisan a repetitive structure like that sandwave generator 07:17 Kacey aah 07:18 VanessaE I guess mesecons would be too slow for that .. 07:20 Kacey plus there is no delay 07:21 Kacey wtf is ftw backwards 07:25 VanessaE bbl. bedtime. 07:25 Kacey bedtime also 08:02 RealBadAngel hi all 09:39 RealBadAngel Technic is updated to work with latest mesecons, pipeworks and stairsplus 09:39 RealBadAngel more changes comin later today 09:56 Nore Could you add crafting recipes for the new pipeworks tubes? 09:57 Nore Something like normal tubes + mese for mese tube, + zinc for accelerator tube, etc. 10:10 sfan5 !server 10:10 Minetest-tan sfan5: Redcrab's Minetest Server 0.3.1 | redcrab.suret.net:30031 up (99.941%) 11:08 Rabbi_Bob Good morning 11:11 Jordach hey Rabbi_Bob 11:11 Rabbi_Bob Hi Jordach, how are you? 11:11 Jordach im doing fine 11:11 * Jordach is working on a gamemode for minetest 11:13 Rabbi_Bob Nice, is there a post or is this new? 11:16 Jordach i dont release until its done 11:16 Jordach i wont release it* 11:17 * Rabbi_Bob nods 11:19 Rabbi_Bob RealBadAngel, are you here? 11:20 RealBadAngel yes 11:20 Rabbi_Bob In regards to the technic update and mesecons, did your fix involve "'register_on_signal_on' (a nil value)"? 11:20 Rabbi_Bob or something else 11:21 RealBadAngel i just made it to work with current mesecons. idk nothin about such issue 11:23 Rabbi_Bob k 11:25 KikaRz Hi! 11:30 berome hey, RealBadAngel, what about adding an under sea (submarine ?) tree alike, a see-weed, but not floating one, a ~tree 11:31 berome and undersea mine richness, like "corail", for example ? 11:31 berome Is it an idea ? Minecraft has something similar ? 11:31 RealBadAngel quite interesting idea indeed 11:31 berome :-) 11:31 RealBadAngel ive never seen such stuff 11:32 berome you guess I'm not able to deal with that :-/ 11:32 RealBadAngel will try to make it 11:35 berome that "must" bring gameplay (recipe, items) something new and cool, but what ? :-) 11:40 Jordach anyone up for bauxite? 11:41 Jordach aluminium people. 11:44 berome yes of course ! 11:44 Jordach berome, parts of my gamemode cross irl and fantasy (probably better than moreores) 11:46 berome hm sounds interresting ! 11:46 Jordach berome, admantine can be found, however, you might end up with cobble 11:47 Jordach (since it is hard to break) 11:48 berome you are making new or better tools with admantine ? 11:49 Jordach berome, gamemode 11:49 Jordach ill release it sometime this week 11:50 berome nice new :-) 11:50 Umbron hello 11:51 Umbron someone here? 11:51 berome hello :-) Umbron 11:51 Umbron hi 11:54 * Jordach has just noticed the word "ingot" is strange to say 11:56 berome in french we say lingot, strange L switch between languages, too... 11:59 Jordach my iridium, not to be confused with google chromium 11:59 Jordach (irl, iridium shines like the rainbow) 12:08 Umbron ... 12:18 Jordach heres the six new ores: http://i.imgur.com/3FfPMhJ.png 12:19 KikaRz Jordach 12:19 KikaRz u could change a bit the position of the rocks... like... - X - X | in another ore: | X - X - 12:20 KikaRz thats one example 12:20 KikaRz depending on the kind of ore. 12:26 Umbron search a server with pvp and survival with people can anyone help me 12:36 RealBadAngel Umbron, http://minetest.org/worlds.html 13:43 Jordach KikaRz, now that i've been browsing imgur for an hour, i've lost where i was 13:43 KikaRz ? 13:43 KikaRz Why you said me that? 13:43 KikaRz '-' 13:43 KikaRz well... 20 people died... 30+ are hurted... 13:44 KikaRz and 248 people died on a party in Brazil, Santa Maria, Rio Grande do Sul. 13:50 Jordach does anyone know if replacements work in the cooking recipe? 13:50 Jordach no, wait, had a better idea 13:51 Exio Jordach: what better idea? 13:52 Jordach Exio, i planned on having the ingot return and the ingot case return, but i thought of a new way to do it 13:52 Jordach (irl, platinum needs to be hardened before it can be used) 13:52 Jordach (and iridium is the metal used.) 14:05 KikaRz w/e, who needs help to get textures for mods? 14:05 KikaRz i'm good at making them 14:05 KikaRz I first plan on the paper... then, i digitalize to the pc... next, i try to color... if i cant, i do bit by bit drawing on pc. 14:12 proller wtf on forum? Too more links in message. Allowed 1 links. Reduce number of links and post it again. - i try to post message without links 14:13 Jordach proller, grab a screenshoyt 14:13 Jordach shot* 14:15 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:15 Jordach hello PilzAdam 14:24 OldCoder Hi 14:24 Jordach morning OldCoder 14:24 * Jordach is close to finishing one part of jordach_game 14:25 OldCoder Oh? 14:25 Jordach i plan on economics, new types of minerals 14:26 Jordach (esp. phazon, a liquid that instant kills) 14:26 Jordach phazon can be bucketed, but is only furnace fuel 14:27 jojoa1997 Hello! 14:29 proller Jordach, swww>>^s swwwss^s ^ - 14:29 proller ершы ыекштп сфгыу уккщк 14:29 proller ups, this string cause error 14:29 proller with two www 14:49 rubenwardy fix it 14:58 rubenwardy hi all] 15:00 rubenwardy is "license holder" the correct term? https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/blob/master/README.md#license-for-code-and-images 15:10 rubenwardy lool 15:10 rubenwardy lol 15:10 rubenwardy Top 15 of Mistakes/User: 15:10 rubenwardy 1. xyz 14 Mistakes 15:32 sfan5 http://xkcd.com/1137/ 15:33 Calinou http://xkcd.com/1337 15:33 Calinou 404 until 2014® 15:39 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/user/StallmansWaifu lol 15:39 * Calinou upvoted that guy's posts 15:39 Calinou poor guy 15:40 Kacey hello all 15:41 Calinou ohai lahwran, karma farming much, btw? 15:42 Calinou hi Kacey :P 15:42 jojoa1997 hi kacey 15:42 Kacey hi 15:47 NekoGloop Meow 15:49 Calinou Jeija: clang didn't like your pull request: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/450 15:49 Calinou :3 15:50 Jeija clang doesn't like any pull requests since the update to clang 3.2, error in rollback.cpp (http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-01-27#i_2840705) 15:55 rubenwardy so many: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pulls 15:59 markveidemanis hi 16:00 rubenwardy hi... 16:01 * PilzAdam cant read forum topics: "502 Bad Gateway" 16:06 Kacey markveidemanis, hi 16:06 markveidemanis hi 16:08 Kacey i made a basic RAM card in minetest 16:09 markveidemanis mesecons? 16:12 Kacey yep 16:18 NekoGloop PilzAdam: Forums don't like you 16:24 rubenwardy my favourite server list does not work 16:25 Kacey how many bits in a byte? 16:28 Penguin_ hey 16:28 rubenwardy Kacey: 8 16:29 Kacey i made 1 byte of memory them ^_^ 16:29 rubenwardy lol 16:29 rubenwardy you almost have as much as Vista did 16:29 rubenwardy you almost have as much as Vista has left 16:30 Kacey haha 16:30 Kacey i am making a 2-bit ram inputto my 2 to 4 decoder 16:31 sapier hmm when is eta of arm instruction set support Kacey ? ;-) 16:33 Kacey ? 16:33 NekoGloop do pistons take into account torches and other attached_node's? 16:34 Kacey idk 16:34 sapier you're recreating microchips at some point you'll have to decide which instructionset to implement ;-) 16:35 Kacey still dont understand 16:35 sapier ok a joke that needs explanation is a bad one ... sorry :- 16:36 Kacey its ok (tech term noob lol) 16:37 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbHZ6uWeR3U 16:37 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibEdgQJEdTA 16:38 sapier ok there are 4 major cpu instruction sets out there arm mips,arm,powerpc and x86 :-) most processors will understand one of them ... maybe minetests cpu's will support one in future too ;-) 16:38 sapier hmm remove first arm to get 4 :-) 16:39 Kacey haha 16:40 Kacey well there need to be other people working on the cpus and what not also 16:40 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57mkfFdvREw for NekoGloop 16:40 NekoGloop Ah, the first one I listened to 16:41 NekoGloop that was a long time ago. 16:41 sapier I assume there's still some basic work to do to get even near a working cpu ... considering current processors have billions of transistors :-) 16:41 Kacey microcontrollers and patience and dedication 16:42 rubenwardy http://tinyurl.com/ar8ef4t 16:43 Kacey wow 16:43 NekoGloop It redirects to tinyurl. :l 16:44 NekoGloop Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=OnreY_SDmH4 16:44 Umbron hello 16:45 rubenwardy trying to get an infinite loop 16:46 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibEdgQJEdTA 16:46 NekoGloop you succeeded 16:46 * Calinou is playing around with VLC video recording 16:46 Calinou the video is 2× as fast as minetest, though... 16:48 rubenwardy !joke 16:48 rubenwardy Kacey: !joke 16:49 Kacey O.o 16:49 Kacey command not recognized 16:49 rubenwardy !g google 16:49 Minetest-tan rubenwardy: http://www.google.com/ 16:49 Kacey !g bing 16:49 Minetest-tan Kacey: http://www.bing.com/ 16:50 rubenwardy damn, someone told me that !g google would crash the internet... 16:50 sfan5 !g crash the internet 16:50 Minetest-tan sfan5: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-to-crash-the-internet/680 16:50 rubenwardy 16:50 sfan5 ^ 16:50 Umbron hahaha i will delete the internet xDDDDDD 16:50 Kacey !g Chuck Norris 16:50 Minetest-tan Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris 16:52 rubenwardy !wik how_to_communicate 16:52 Minetest-tan "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/How_to_communicate 16:52 rubenwardy !dev how_to_communicate 16:53 rubenwardy Hello Minetest-tan! 16:53 rubenwardy MinetestBot is a lot more social 16:53 Kacey haha 16:53 Kacey Kaceybot is not social 16:54 Calinou !g sarcasim 16:54 Minetest-tan Calinou: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Sarcasim 16:54 Calinou lol 16:54 sfan5 Hi Minetest-tan 16:54 Minetest-tan Hello sfan5 16:54 sfan5 Hi Minetest-tan! 16:54 sfan5 Hi Minetest-tan ! 16:54 sfan5 Hi Minetest-tan 16:54 Minetest-tan Hi sfan5 16:54 rubenwardy Hi Minetest-tan! 16:54 rubenwardy Hi Minetest-tan 16:54 Minetest-tan Hi rubenwardy! 16:54 Kacey !g !g 16:54 Minetest-tan Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force 16:54 Kacey haha 16:55 rubenwardy !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g !g 16:55 Minetest-tan rubenwardy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G 16:55 jojoa1997 !g +Minetest-tan 16:55 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmwhNEEXpA 16:55 sapier sometimes I wonder what a turing test on this chat logs would result 16:55 rubenwardy turing? 16:55 jojoa1997 turing? 16:56 sapier !g turing test 16:56 Minetest-tan sapier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test 16:57 jojoa1997 Hi all 16:58 Kacey !commands 16:58 Jordach do we have to play with the bots again 16:58 rubenwardy Minetest-tan bye 16:58 Kacey Jordach:yes lol 16:58 Kacey bye Minetest-tan 16:58 sapier maybe I should add communication support to mobf 16:59 jojoa1997 can someone help me with some modding 16:59 sapier talking to sheep may be interesting for someone 16:59 jojoa1997 https://github.com/Splizard/hungry_games/blob/master/mods/spawning/init.lua that is the code and what i want is when everyone but one person has become a spectator then everyone loses fly and fast and gets back interact 16:59 rubenwardy lol 16:59 Umbron ... 16:59 Jordach ... 16:59 jojoa1997 . . . 16:59 rubenwardy jojoa1997: on player join, add them to a table 16:59 sapier : : : 17:00 rubenwardy on step, check how many do not have fly 17:00 rubenwardy | 17:00 rubenwardy / 17:00 Umbron everytime i write points everybody wants to write points too 17:00 rubenwardy - 17:00 rubenwardy | 17:00 rubenwardy \ 17:00 rubenwardy | 17:01 sapier sorry I take back the ": : :" and add , , , 17:01 Umbron lol 17:01 rubenwardy | / - \ 17:01 Umbron so time for a sensless question: 17:01 Umbron how late is it whereever you are 17:02 rubenwardy 5:01:49 pm 17:02 Kacey 10 am 17:02 sapier hmm 1 minute later than a minute ago :-) 17:02 jojoa1997 sorry i dont know how to do it. it isnt even my mod. i just want that to be added to the mod 17:03 NekoGloop noon 17:03 Umbron 18:03 or 6:03 pm 17:03 jojoa1997 here is the stuff for spectating that makes the function happen when you die https://github.com/Splizard/hungry_games/blob/master/mods/dead_drop/init.lua 17:03 sapier it was anounced as senseless question why are you answering that precise? ;-) 17:04 Jordach jojoa1997, just wait until spilzard does it 17:04 jojoa1997 the problem is my hungergames server has a bunch of people dying and no way to get the privs back 17:05 jojoa1997 i have to amnually do it and when i am not there then tuff luck\ 17:05 jojoa1997 *mnually 17:05 jojoa1997 *manually 17:05 Jordach jojoa1997, write a script 17:06 jojoa1997 0gb hosts the server and i dont know how to write scripts 17:06 rubenwardy jojoa1997, you could register a /reset_privs command 17:07 jojoa1997 but how can it be done automatically 17:07 Kacey ooh look an ostrich 17:07 Kacey can i ride it? 17:07 Kacey aha! 17:07 rubenwardy (4:59:49 PM) rubenwardy: jojoa1997: on player join, add them to a table 17:07 rubenwardy (5:00:07 PM) rubenwardy: on step, check how many do not have fly 17:07 rubenwardy and if only one does, then reset 17:07 Kacey i will name you george and together we shall conquer all 17:08 * Jordach stabs the ostrich with a gold sword from moreores 17:08 jojoa1997 the problem is that i dont know how to do that or am too tired to think 17:08 * Jordach is tired and grumpy 17:08 Umbron so dont know which server i will visit now 17:08 sapier what happens when you stab it? 17:11 Kacey oops 17:13 Umbron come on when i want to join the hunger games they are down -.- 17:13 Kacey now i wait for my own server to load 17:14 Umbron know someone when it will be up again 17:14 Kacey crashed my server... 17:14 Kacey 10:14:04: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...st/games/animals/mods/animals/mobf_settings/init.lua:38: attempt to call field 'settings_save' (a nil value) 17:14 Kacey huh? 17:14 Kacey sapier^^ 17:15 sapier update cor 17:15 sapier e 17:15 Kacey ? 17:15 sapier settings_save was merged some days ago 17:15 Jordach Kacey, update mobf 17:15 Jordach core == mobf 17:15 Kacey -_- 17:15 sapier no 17:15 Kacey ok 17:15 sapier core is minetest core 17:16 sapier if you can't do that delete mobf_settings 17:16 Calinou does anyone here use VLC for video recording? does anyone know how to fix videos being too fast (editing them to make them slower is not an option, the speed is variable)? 17:17 sapier I don't think there's any chance to fix this if timing information is wrong 17:17 Umbron maybe windows movie maker and "pull the video longer" 17:18 * Jordach spits drink out 17:18 sapier yes but calinou says speed is variable? 17:18 * Calinou is on linux 17:18 Jordach is Calinou recording? 17:18 Calinou nope :) 17:18 Jordach then why would you ask such things 17:18 Jordach :P 17:18 Calinou for minetest 17:18 Umbron use linux movie maker or so 17:18 Calinou MT has no integrated video recording.. 17:18 Calinou lol 17:18 berome avidemux perhaps ? 17:19 Kacey go ostrich go! 17:19 Kacey how do i make him go? 17:19 Umbron calinou on your server are lots of unknown blocks 17:20 Kacey COME ON GEORGE!!!!!! 17:21 sapier :-) mount him kacey 17:21 Kacey i have 17:21 Kacey stupid george isnt going anywhere 17:22 sapier you can move around as usual but with more speed when mounting a ostrich? 17:22 Kacey lagged it lol 17:22 Kacey bad lag 17:22 sapier lag? with only ostrich? 17:23 Umbron its so boring 17:23 NekoGloop Mobf == lag :P 17:24 Umbron so another sensless question: 17:24 Umbron on which planet do you live? 17:24 Kacey how do i trade with npc? 17:25 sapier I don't experience any lag ;-) must be your machine ;-) 17:25 Calinou say "hi, i'm jérôme kerviel" 17:25 Calinou the trader will ask you for 4,9 billion € 17:25 berome !up minetest.org 30015 17:25 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.294ms) 17:25 Calinou s/you for/you 17:26 jojoa1997 does anyone know if there is a sponge mod 17:26 sapier rightclick the trader 17:27 jojoa1997 that isnt a sponge 17:28 Jordach :-) mount him kacey -- best sentance *snigger* 17:28 Kacey George and i are conquering all 17:28 sapier :-) good sentence to be take out of context :-) 17:28 jojoa1997 VanessaE: you there? 17:29 sapier [ANNOUNCEMENT] Mobf 2.0.0 is completed http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 17:29 Kacey GEORGE!!!!!!! :( 17:30 jojoa1997 will the finite water mod work with VanessaE's pipeworks mod 17:30 NekoGloop nope 17:31 sapier what happened to george kacey? 17:31 jojoa1997 is it possible to get it to work with the mod 17:31 Kacey he died :( 17:31 sapier everything is possible jojoa it's only a question of how much work you do to get it done. 17:31 Jordach Kacey, so you were riding George Romero's shoulders? 17:31 sapier kacey maybe some way to heal mobs should be added to 2.1 17:32 jojoa1997 ok 17:32 jojoa1997 bye modding time 17:32 NekoGloop pet food 17:32 Jordach sapier, consider using the barn 17:32 Umbron can someone recommend me a server with survival and damage? 17:32 Umbron and pls dont post only minetest.org 17:33 sapier jordach barn to heal mobs? 17:33 Jordach oh gosh this post is now irelevant: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=4798#p4798 17:33 Jordach sapier, yes 17:33 sapier I was thinking about punching with food? 17:33 NekoGloop pet food 17:34 Kacey sapier: make it so that you can throw eggs and have a 50% chance of hacthing a chicken 17:34 sapier interesting idea kacey 17:35 Kacey ^_^ 17:35 Kacey and pigs that you can ride 17:35 Kacey that you have no control over 17:35 sapier btw I'm collecting suggestions for mobf 2.1 atm so just tell me I'll consider about anything .. except ridable bigs thats to minecraft like ;-) 17:35 sapier -b+p 17:36 sapier hmm no control ... that'd be better for steers? 17:36 Umbron boar this guy post so often on facebook my news are full with his sensless posts -.- 17:37 Kacey oops 17:37 Umbron again: can someone recommend me a server with survival and damage? 17:38 NekoGloop sapier, that's how eggs work in MC 17:38 Kacey EGGWARD!!!!! 17:38 Umbron but they have there a 1/8 chance 17:38 Calinou can someone recommend me a server with survival and damage? 17:39 Calinou last time I saw a server without damage: 2011 :P 17:39 Calinou (not counting Jordach's pixel art) 17:39 sapier nekogloop ... maybe but it's quite realistic 17:39 Umbron shauns server is empty at the moment... 17:40 NekoGloop random r1 server now? 17:43 Umbron ... 17:44 * Kacey needs volunteers 17:45 Umbron trying zegs server 17:45 Kacey ##kacey if you are interested 17:47 Umbron wow nobody is online who can give me interact 17:48 * Kacey wants torches to be 3d 17:49 berome Umbron: once your read rules, you can perhaps ask OldCoder for interract 17:51 Umbron is someone here with a server? 17:51 Kacey i donthave port forwarded 17:53 sapier does anyone know if there's a way to create raillike behaviour of nodes with nodeboxes? 17:53 Umbron im so bored 17:56 Umbron super the hunger games server is still offline 17:57 Kacey drawtype = raillike i do believe sapier 17:57 sapier yes but you can only specify a texture for raillike not a nodebox :-/ 17:58 sapier e.g. if you want to create 3d rails 17:59 Kacey ... idk then 18:00 sapier :-/ I thought so 18:00 Kacey perhaps doing it the hard way... 18:02 Umbron play someone league of legends on west europe? 18:03 Umbron **** 1 min for log in -.- 18:03 sapier yes creating a node for each style is an option too but in this case I'd create a patch to add core support 18:03 Kacey1 damn 18:03 Kacey1 stupid internet 18:05 Kacey crap i have to go until tonight 18:12 babyface1031 VanessaE: is there a Jungle Tree Tree 18:12 babyface1031 in the moretree mod 18:12 VanessaE not anymore. 18:12 VanessaE I just pushed a fix to git :-) 18:13 babyface1031 ok so it will be gone when we get the update 18:13 VanessaE I think 18:13 babyface1031 ok thank you 18:13 VanessaE oh yeah. 18:13 VanessaE another fix is needed. 18:13 VanessaE hold. 18:16 VanessaE fixed in moretrees git. 18:32 markveidemanis Hi! 18:42 markveidemanis Hi!! 18:43 Calinou ...hi!!!? 18:44 VanessaE hi. 18:44 Umbron hi 18:45 markveidemanis Yay 18:45 markveidemanis ...so what now? :D 18:45 Umbron is the hunger games server up? 18:45 Umbron no -.- 18:46 OldCoder Hi 18:46 OldCoder Hunger Games Server? 18:46 markveidemanis Hunger games? 18:46 markveidemanis Ahh, jojoa's thing 18:46 markveidemanis he wants to host another server... 18:46 markveidemanis when he can just use the one he is the admin of :D 18:47 Umbron hunger games: up 1/1 or what xD 18:47 sapier oldcoder I've created a new branch for your special version on release of mobf 2.0 https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/tree/oldcoder_special_2.0 18:48 Umbron so which server should i join? 18:48 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 18:48 markveidemanis My server! 18:50 Umbron ah your server was pilzadams server 18:51 markveidemanis Yep 18:51 markveidemanis Mine now:D 18:53 VanessaE ARGH! 18:53 VanessaE HORRIBLE regression in the way furnaces work in creative mode 18:54 FreeFull How 18:54 VanessaE insert item. blink. blink. blink. try (blink) to add (blink) fuel... wait (blink) while it (blink) cooks.... try (blink) like hell (blink) to (blink) remove (blink) the results (blink) into your (blink) inventory 18:54 VanessaE where blink = the UI flashes between normal and blanked out e.g. it blinks. 18:54 VanessaE the furnace UI, I mean 18:54 FreeFull Oh 18:54 FreeFull It sounds like it keeps doing hacky swap node for no reason 18:54 VanessaE yep 18:54 VanessaE RBA just said the same. 18:54 VanessaE come on guys, this is a bullshit bug. 18:56 Umbron looks like shauns server is diing 18:56 VanessaE sorry, it is. I won't even begin to hold back my comment on how fucking stupid that was to use that feature in a critical component of the game versus using it in some future-for-testing object 18:58 thexyz sfan5: ok, i fixed all my "mistakes" 18:58 thexyz the left ones are done by NekoGloop 19:00 Umbron coder? 19:00 thexyz well, they include "Liscence" instead of "License" 19:01 PilzAdam thexyz, I get "502 Bad Gateway" when I try to access any forum topic 19:01 harrison talking to sheep 19:01 harrison lol 19:02 Umbron hallo pilzadam 19:02 PilzAdam hi 19:03 thexyz PilzAdam: no idea 19:03 thexyz >2013/01/27 23:00:48 [error] 26808#0: *4256404 upstream sent too big header while reading response header from upstream, client: *.*.*.* , server: forum.minetest.net, request: "GET /viewtopic.php?id=2434 HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/tmp/fastcgi.socket:", host: "forum.minetest.net", referrer: "http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=9" 19:04 thexyz though that one only happened once 19:04 sfan5 my script can access forum.minetest.net fine 19:05 mauvebic *** Page 2 | '[Mod] Multinode [20120810] [multinode]' by mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2398 *** 19:05 mauvebic [EE] No License found 19:05 mauvebic [EE] No Dependencies found 19:05 mauvebic [EE] No Download found 19:05 mauvebic ^ must be fixed 19:05 mauvebic there's nothing to fix, the mod is old, discontinued, and i dont have the files anymore 19:05 sfan5 should i move it to old mods? 19:05 thexyz then ask someone to move it into "old mods" 19:05 mauvebic i have a few times :p 19:06 mauvebic if its missing a download then ive either merged it or dropped it 19:06 sapier1 write a move request then it's some mods problem ;-) 19:07 mauvebic everything pre-mm2 was on the drive that died on me anyhow :/ 19:07 sfan5 mauvebic: moved to "old mods" 19:07 mauvebic thanks :-) 19:08 PilzAdam thexyz, it works now after a relogin 19:09 mauvebic even my older maps are gone :'( 19:09 sfan5 Top 15 of Mistakes/User: 19:09 sfan5 1. mauvebic 21 Mistakes 19:09 PilzAdam thexyz, but the unread topics are now marked as read 19:09 mauvebic most of those 21 mistakes were threads that i asked to be closed/deleted but was refused 19:10 sfan5 mauvebic: tell me which ones you want to have deleted/closed/moved to "old mods" 19:11 mauvebic ok gimme a sec ill comp a list 19:11 Calinou sfan5: I have no mistakes now :-) 19:11 sfan5 \o/ 19:11 sfan5 10. celeron55 4 Mistakes 19:11 sfan5 :O 19:11 sapier sfan whats order for same count of mistakes? 19:12 mauvebic multinode -> already in old 19:12 sfan5 sapier: 1-Z 19:12 sfan5 *A-Z 19:12 mauvebic 4seasons -> Old (was merged with mm2) 19:12 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2314 19:13 sfan5 moved 19:13 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2321 -> Old (was merged) 19:13 sapier then there's a problem VanessaE sapier Nemo08 LorenzoVulcan ... 19:13 VanessaE ? 19:13 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2657 -> Old (discontinued) 19:13 ShadowNinja PilzAdam your upside-down stairs have a server-crashing bug, line 184, ret is assumed to not be nil 19:13 thexyz PilzAdam: that's not related to hosting, punbb somehow messes with read/unread status 19:13 ShadowNinja Slabs* 19:13 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2750 -> Old (merged) 19:14 sfan5 sapier: its Z-A 19:14 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, report it on the GitHub issue tracker 19:14 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2399 -> Old (merged) 19:14 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2701 -> Old 19:15 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2433 -> Old 19:15 sapier no isn't have alook at Top7 least mistakes/User :-) 19:15 mauvebic that should be it :-) none of my active stuff shows up on the list today 19:15 sfan5 mauvebic: moved.moved.moved.moved.moved. 19:16 mauvebic Yay :-) now someone else can occupy #1 lol thanks :-) 19:17 mauvebic oh and http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4598 -> Releases (if not missing anything?) 19:18 Malar want -> http://voxeljs.com/ (^.^) 19:18 sfan5 mauvebic: is "alt-mint" the mod folder name? if not, you're missing that 19:19 mauvebic well its 'mint' but theres another 'mint' out there 19:19 sfan5 so ,yes? 19:19 sfan5 or no? 19:19 mauvebic should it be [alt][mint]? 19:20 OldCoder Hey 19:20 mauvebic fixed it '[mod]Nodex[mint][version]' 19:20 OldCoder sapier, should I try that? 19:21 sfan5 mauvebic: moved 19:21 mauvebic thanks :-) 19:21 sapier if you're updating next time you should update to this version, it's current stable 19:21 sfan5 i think its time for a new report 19:21 mauvebic a good start on the spring cleaning of the forums 19:22 NekoGloop sfan5: Your report cannot detect my depends because I make mine human-readable :l 19:22 sfan5 what does human-readable mean? 19:22 mauvebic pidgeon english lol 19:22 mauvebic j/k 19:23 mauvebic though some people i cant tell what language their posts are in lol 19:23 NekoGloop human-readable means in a sentence. Not as an entry in a list 19:23 sfan5 to all developers here: you can use the raw statistic data generated by my script with python easily 19:25 sfan5 NekoGloop: it checks for "dependencies","depends","dependency","dependens" and "requires" 19:25 sfan5 *or 19:25 NekoGloop "To run this modpack, you need only the mods found in minetest_game." 19:25 NekoGloop Ahem. 19:25 sfan5 hm 19:26 kaeza evenings 19:27 VanessaE sfan5: change requires to require (no s) so it can catch require(s) and requirement(s) 19:28 sfan5 ok 19:28 sfan5 Top 15 of Mistakes/User: 19:28 sfan5 1. cornernote 9 Mistakes 19:28 sfan5 ^ mauvebic 19:28 VanessaE I presume you look only at the start of a line of text for these words? 19:28 sapier i doubt cornernote will fix it 19:28 mauvebic lol hard to compete with a dead guy 19:29 VanessaE dead? 19:29 sfan5 he's banned 19:29 sfan5 VanessaE: it searches the whole post 19:29 VanessaE sfan5: I mean at the start of any given line of text in the post. 19:29 thexyz yes, there's no strict format so that tool is mostly useless 19:30 sfan5 it isn't 19:30 mauvebic ok not dead but a ban on the internet is pretty much the equivalent lol 19:30 VanessaE thexyz: afaic, my posts are as close to an official format as one can expect :-) 19:30 mauvebic and LM is like the internets' version of reincarnation lol 19:30 VanessaE (I just tend to change the order of the various sections; Download, Install, License, etc.) 19:30 mauvebic vanessae does it have the royal warrant on both sides? :p 19:30 sfan5 there are rules like "license", "download link", "dependencies listed", ... 19:31 VanessaE mauvebic: the what? 19:31 mauvebic not a fan of keeping up appearances i see :p 19:31 thexyz sfan5: but "dependencies listed" does not mean that your topic should look like "depends: a, b, c" 19:31 VanessaE are you kidding, I love that show. 19:31 VanessaE but I don't know what you mean :-) 19:31 sfan5 thexyz: the script als detects "This mod depends on default and whatever_mod" 19:31 VanessaE thexyz: maybe not, but that's about as crystal clear as it can get, and it's dead easy to make it look that way, so why shouldn't that be necessary? 19:31 mauvebic when he said official the first thing that popped to mind was hyacinth for some reason lol 19:32 marktraceur sfan5: What script is this? 19:32 thexyz sfan5: how about "You should have minetest_game installed"? 19:32 sfan5 marktraceur: https://gist.github.com/4642453 19:32 Rabbi_Bob "Mrs. Bucket?" 19:32 VanessaE mauvebic: heh 19:32 mauvebic its pronounced bouquet 19:32 sfan5 thexyz: well, that doesn't count 19:32 thexyz VanessaE: why should something be necessary when it's not really needed? 19:32 mauvebic the same reason we pay taxes 19:32 sfan5 thexyz: i'm working on supporting things like that 19:32 ShadowNinja PilzAdam, done, issue #115 19:33 VanessaE thexyz: easy readability and portability into some future mod database maybe? 19:33 marktraceur sfan5: "Statisctics" can you start with one mistake? :) 19:33 mauvebic my wife is building that huge-ass tower from the new Judge Dredd lol 19:33 sfan5 marktraceur: i just noticed that too 19:34 marktraceur sfan5: This script could probably benefit from some OOP, but otherwise looks cool :) 19:35 VanessaE thexyz: if each mod posted in the Mod Releases section has clearly defined fields, in whatever order, it would become almost trivial to scrape that forum section and import everything into a rolling database of mods to be used in some kind of future in-game installer. 19:35 sfan5 marktraceur: the script how it is now took me 1.5 days 19:35 marktraceur *nod* 19:35 marktraceur Time well spent, I'd say. 19:35 VanessaE thexyz: same reason the subject line of each posted mod already requires a clearly-delimited format now. 19:36 sfan5 VanessaE: i thought about that too and i'm thinking about a script that find mods conforming the guidelines in "modding general" 19:36 VanessaE sfan5: good idea 19:36 sfan5 *finds 19:36 thexyz VanessaE: the only problem ATM is that we don't have "a rolling database of mods" 19:36 VanessaE thexyz: well not yet of course, that's why I said "future"/ 19:37 mauvebic doesnt the forum also provide RSS streams? 19:37 VanessaE mauvebic: yes 19:37 sfan5 but its a pain in the ass to deal with html that is not xml-conform, xml.dom.minidom won't parse it 19:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, what is this "future" thing an where can I download it? 19:37 sfan5 mauvebic: yes 19:37 mauvebic you could scrape those for a mod db 19:37 sfan5 why rss feeds? 19:37 sapier you need a browsable database to get "normal" users 19:37 sfan5 ^ i agree 19:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: Jeija was working on something, and of course now there's an in-game mod enable/disable screen. Why can't these be tied to an online database, or just realtime scrape the web page? 19:37 thexyz sfan5: because html is not xml 19:38 sfan5 i know 19:38 sfan5 many sections of the html document are xml-conform, but the entire page isn't 19:38 VanessaE is there a punbb program that'll let us turn Mod Releases posts into an actual online database? 19:38 mauvebic could always use webkit and a tab leading to the forums? 19:38 sfan5 that makes it kinda hard to use the data 19:38 VanessaE you know, sorta like the form used for polls 19:38 VanessaE s/program/plugin/ 19:39 sfan5 VanessaE: no, but i could also write a script 19:39 sfan5 but that would take way more than 1.5 days 19:39 VanessaE heh 19:39 VanessaE I don't mean to scrape the page - I mean so that each post in that section *is* a database entry in its own right. 19:39 sfan5 as it has to parse basic sentences like "You only need the mods in minetest_game to run this mod." 19:40 sfan5 that'd be good too 19:40 mauvebic you could prolly tweak the forum to send 2 POST requests, one to the forums, another to a DB 19:40 VanessaE i.e. the user transferring the mod from Modding General to Mod Releases would run some script to scrape the post and extract the various fields, with the unrecognized stuff being dumped into a "description" field 19:40 sfan5 mauvebic: punbb plugins can define hoks 19:40 sfan5 *hooks 19:40 VanessaE s/user/moderator/ 19:41 mauvebic that sounds good 19:41 mauvebic then all we're missing is extra fields to define those properties that should be present in all mods (license, deps, etc) 19:41 VanessaE exactly 19:41 sfan5 it doesn't just sound good, it IS good 19:41 VanessaE each post would be expanded to have those fields, even if they're initially empty 19:41 VanessaE then we could work, over time, on populating them either by script or by ghand 19:41 VanessaE hand* 19:42 mauvebic well if license and dep fields were required to post, it would cut down on proofreading for you guys 19:42 sfan5 ghand -> ?o/ <- hand 19:42 VanessaE hehe 19:42 sfan5 ;) 19:42 sfan5 mauvebic: you need to list dependencies and license 19:43 mauvebic i know, thats why i said they should be required fields, otherwise the user cant post to general :-) 19:43 VanessaE that would require a realtime script to check the post before accepting it 19:43 VanessaE something server-side I mean 19:43 mauvebic well in php terms, youre just checking to make sure the field ain't blank or contains weird chars 19:44 mauvebic or if it blanks then it defaults to "none" and 'wtfpl' lol 19:45 sfan5 i had to del with (f**king) unicode because someone put an unicode char in his mod topic title 19:45 sfan5 *deal 19:45 mauvebic forums are UTF-8? 19:46 sfan5 mauvebic: yes 19:46 mauvebic php + javasript (ajax) + apache = UTF8 + unicode salad lol 19:46 mauvebic another reason i quit webdesign lol 19:46 sfan5 utf8 is a format of storing unicode 19:47 mauvebic yeah but managing all those formats is a PITA lol 19:47 sfan5 just use utf8 all the time. 19:47 mauvebic plus where im at it had to be english + french and the french here is a special subset lol 19:48 mauvebic meh this was a long time ago - aint as much work in webdesign these days 19:49 mauvebic way more easy solutions these days then writing your own site or paying someone to do it 19:50 thexyz wtf, ebay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inflatable-Otter-/170979579794 19:50 Doc22 hey 19:50 FreeFull thexyz: That's pretty expensive for a piece of shitty plastic 19:51 FreeFull It started at 0.99 19:51 FreeFull I have no idea why the bids went so high 19:51 FreeFull http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=170979579794 19:52 thexyz I see 19:52 kaeza VanessaE, has this happened before? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_2102869504.jpg 19:52 VanessaE aw shit 19:52 VanessaE I forgot to fix that :-/ 19:52 VanessaE hold. 19:52 kaeza ah ok :P 19:52 VanessaE er wait a sec. 19:52 kaeza no probs 19:53 kaeza it's not a critical bug :P 19:53 kaeza hey john 20:03 VanessaE kaeza: testing a fix now. 20:03 kaeza k 20:05 VanessaE kaeza: fixed in git. 20:06 kaeza thanks! :) updating local copy. OC said he will update everything later on his worlds. 20:07 VanessaE ok 20:09 mauvebic anyone know a good file host (150mb+) ? ive tried 3 times to upload my map to ompldr :/ 20:10 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/7BN8MLq.jpg screenshot from technic tests 20:10 Jordach mauvebic, dropbox 20:11 mauvebic will it force ppl to register to download? 20:11 VanessaE dropbox doesn't do that 20:11 mauvebic sweet thanks :-) 20:11 VanessaE now mediafire 20:11 VanessaE nor* 20:12 VanessaE ompldr works fine for most people also, your issue aside 20:12 mauvebic it takes like half an hour to upload my map to ompldr and i keep getting 'db lock' 20:12 VanessaE but 150MB? maybe Mega. 20:12 VanessaE good luck finding anyone willing to host that much data without paying for it. 20:13 VanessaE github if you're a bastard ;) 20:13 mauvebic what are the limits for dropbox and mediafire? 20:13 mauvebic i could prolly send my map via carrier pidgeon before figuring out how to upload anything to git XD 20:13 VanessaE OldCoder: at your convenience, please update plantlife again if you have not yet done so. 20:13 VanessaE mauvebic: git is easy. 20:14 mauvebic i know its remember the shorthands i suck at 20:14 mauvebic i also suck at remembering numbers for some reason lol 20:15 Jordach mauvebic, github4win 20:15 mauvebic something funny: i cant remember people's ages, not even my own sometimes 20:16 mauvebic the women in my family love it cuz i consistently give them younger ages lol 20:16 jojoa1997 Hello all! 20:16 markveidemanis go to #mtmt , jojoa 20:17 OldCoder VanessaE 20:17 * OldCoder laughs 20:17 OldCoder People are making a list 20:17 OldCoder Of all the new updates 20:17 jojoa1997 of what 20:17 markveidemanis making**MAde 20:17 jojoa1997 for what OC 20:17 markveidemanis and sent to you:D 20:17 markveidemanis Server 20:17 jojoa1997 ?.? 20:17 Jordach jojoa1997, dont keep asking questions.... (i know someone whos worse the the spanish inqusition) 20:18 jojoa1997 Jordach are you alive? 20:18 Jordach yes 20:18 markveidemanis Anyone seen Oblivion1500? 20:18 jojoa1997 No your not 20:18 jojoa1997 your a computer!! 20:19 * jojoa1997 unplugs Jordach's plug 20:19 * Jordach sighs 20:19 markveidemanis TIME TO GO TO #mtmt JOJOA1997!! 20:19 jojoa1997 Kaeza how is the moving head for the player coming along 20:19 Jordach dont piss me off please 20:19 jojoa1997 markv check who is on it 20:20 markveidemanis I mean talk on it 20:20 jojoa1997 for what i dont have anyhting to talk about 20:20 markveidemanis i am talking on it, tell me your thoughts on the topic. 20:20 markveidemanis hunger games thing. 20:21 jojoa1997 nothing i dont want it hosted on our server 20:21 kaeza jojoa1997, no progress 20:21 markveidemanis i do! :D 20:21 jojoa1997 all those buildings will be gone 20:21 kaeza Imma ditch that thing 20:22 jojoa1997 markv have you tested the game itself 20:22 jojoa1997 kaeza why 20:22 markveidemanis no, I will build it outside spawn. 20:22 jojoa1997 i like it 20:22 jojoa1997 markv test it out first on a private world 20:22 kaeza jojoa1997, cause it can't animate while moving the head at the same time 20:22 jojoa1997 then decide if you want to have it on our server 20:22 markveidemanis No, even i cannot screw up making 4 glass walls. 20:23 kaeza apparently Taoki is also trying to do that 20:23 VanessaE kaeza: don't ditch it, please 20:23 VanessaE surely someone will figure out the issue 20:23 jojoa1997 +1 20:23 markveidemanis unbreakable glass dome outside spawn 20:23 jojoa1997 Markv unless you test it i will be gainst adding it 20:23 jojoa1997 there is more to it than 4 walls 20:23 Taoki Manually positioning / rotating bones while animating is possible, but broken in current Irrlicht. Next version should allow it to work 20:23 jojoa1997 and also play it on survival 20:24 markveidemanis is it a mod? 20:24 mauvebic it would be cool if the mapper tools could draw the protection zones as outlines 20:24 VanessaE mauvebic: I think rubenwardy has something that does that 20:24 kaeza Taoki, yes, I read your post on the Irrlicht forums 20:24 jojoa1997 no it is a game like minetest_game and minimal 20:25 markveidemanis ok, then i will look at the mods in the game 20:25 kaeza I will try to manually animate 20:25 kaeza and see if that works out 20:25 jojoa1997 markv i will not add it to our server the answer is no 20:27 markveidemanis looks like it just adds a dome generator and unbreakable glass, we have those things 20:27 jojoa1997 no it doesnt 20:27 jojoa1997 it adds 4 walls 20:27 jojoa1997 makes digging impossible except with leaves and stuff like that 20:28 jojoa1997 you lose everything when you die 20:28 VanessaE kaeza: in practice, there are only three animations to modify, right? walk, dig, and walk+dig... so that expands to 6 animations if you have to do it manually. manageable, if hacky. 20:28 jojoa1997 and untill there are automatic resets once you die... 20:28 jojoa1997 you only have the privs fast,shout,fly 20:28 markveidemanis there will just be an arena 20:28 jojoa1997 but no ionteract 20:28 jojoa1997 it is not going on 20:29 jojoa1997 until you have tried it and fully understand what it does dont ask me again 20:29 markveidemanis can someone make me a clean mod with all the moretree nodenames please? 20:30 markveidemanis its not going on, i am making just the arena 20:30 markveidemanis and there is trees in the way 20:30 jojoa1997 keep the trees they add more battle ground 20:31 markveidemanis no, they make less - in minecraft trees look good, but in minetest, they lagg like hell 20:31 markveidemanis and then theres the shadows on removing them... 20:33 jojoa1997 markv theyt only lag when they spawn not when they are already made 20:35 VanessaE zzz 20:35 jojoa1997 VanessaE: me too 20:35 markveidemanis they lagg when made too 20:35 * Rabbi_Bob pours himself a coffee 20:35 markveidemanis All the rendering 20:37 jojoa1997 well what about spawn 20:37 jojoa1997 it has all those big buildings 20:37 VanessaE Rabbi_Bob: as in bobblocks? 20:37 Rabbi_Bob the same :) How are you? 20:38 VanessaE I'm fine. nice to see you here in IRC :) 20:38 jojoa1997 Rabbi Bob i love your mod :-) 20:38 Rabbi_Bob Thanks. Back in the day I lived IRC, it's been awhile though 20:38 Rabbi_Bob 1997 20:38 Rabbi_Bob thanks jojoa1997 20:38 jojoa1997 your welcome 20:38 Rabbi_Bob trying to sort the mesecons issue right now 20:39 jojoa1997 ? 20:39 Rabbi_Bob latest mesecons implementation breaks v6 of BobBlocks 20:39 Jordach Rabbi_Bob, it shouldnt take more than a minute to fix it though 20:39 VanessaE yeah I know 20:39 VanessaE there's a way to fix that though 20:40 VanessaE I wonder what else latest mesecons breaks :-/ 20:40 Rabbi_Bob I'm open to suggestions, was just looking through differences 20:40 VanessaE Rabbi_Bob: a soft-dependency would be a good idea btw 20:41 jojoa1997 what is a soft dependency 20:41 Rabbi_Bob yeah, I think I lobbied for that awhile ago and then I fell out of working on things 20:41 VanessaE jojoa1997: check for the presence of your depended-on mod first before registering your nodes so that you can register stripped-down versions of your nodes. 20:42 Penguin_ hi 20:42 VanessaE heh, that sounded repetitive didn't it... 20:42 jojoa1997 how would you code that? 20:42 Rabbi_Bob yeah ;-) 20:42 VanessaE jojoa1997: if minetest.get_modpath("some_modname_here") == nil then {code to register non-dependent nodes} else {code to register dependent versions} end 20:43 VanessaE so for example, 20:43 jojoa1997 'oh thanks. will keep in mind 20:43 VanessaE if minetest.get_modpath("homedecor") == nil then 20:43 VanessaE minetest.register_craftitem(":homedecor:plastic_sheeting", { 20:43 VanessaE description = "Plastic sheet", 20:43 VanessaE inventory_image = "homedecor_plastic_sheeting.png", 20:43 VanessaE }) 20:43 VanessaE end 20:43 VanessaE that's how pipeworks checks for the presence of the homedecor mod 20:43 Jordach VanessaE, no. bad. outside! 20:43 VanessaE (except it registers several recipes, not just that one) 20:43 Jordach use a goddamn pastebin 20:44 VanessaE Jordach: hush :-) 20:44 Jordach you hush. 20:44 VanessaE 6 short lines of code is not enough to need a pastebin :-) 20:44 mauvebic flooding map, mouhaha 20:45 Jordach OldCoder, pm 20:46 VanessaE Zx81 is here...but no C64? :( 20:46 VanessaE oh kaeza! ;) 20:46 Jordach ehm 20:46 Jordach i has a C question 20:46 kaeza hm? 20:46 Jordach this is driving me up the wall 20:46 kaeza Jordach, ? 20:46 VanessaE and down it too? 20:47 Jordach VanessaE, yes 20:47 * Jordach pokes OldCoder for signs of life 20:47 VanessaE (that joke is shamelessly stolen from an olllld Scooby Doo cartoon ;) ) 20:47 Jordach when shaggy was clearly a stoner 20:47 PilzAdam Jordach, whats your question? 20:47 Jordach PilzAdam, to -mods 20:48 OldCoder Hi 20:49 OldCoder Jordach, I just stepped away for a minute 20:49 Jordach ok, its a C related question 20:49 VanessaE so ask already :) 20:49 VanessaE (not that I can help) 20:50 jojoa1997 i know the answer 20:50 jojoa1997 chicken! 20:59 Rabbi_Bob on the good side, I know the code to remove to stop the load error 20:59 Jordach jojoa1997, already fixed and compiled 20:59 Doc22 VanessaE I made a special patch mod for pipeworks that re-inits the recipes 21:00 Doc22 do you think that it will work? 21:00 jojoa1997 back 21:00 VanessaE Doc22: probably not, because I *just* pushed some changes to pipeworks maybe an hour ago 21:00 jojoa1997 jordach what is compiled 21:00 Doc22 ok 21:00 Jordach jojoa1997, something secret 21:01 jojoa1997 i keep secrects 21:01 Doc22 well then how would I fix the recipes? I don't have a clue where to start 21:01 VanessaE Doc22: regular pipes are no longer affected by technic. Only tubes are affected. 21:01 Doc22 yeah thats what I want to fix 21:01 Doc22 so talk to rba? 21:01 Doc22 (me) 21:01 VanessaE but you can make all your necessary changes in pipeworks/crafts.lua 21:01 VanessaE just comment out the io.open line and the corresponding end 21:01 Doc22 ok 21:02 Doc22 I made a change to that file 21:02 Doc22 and turned it into a mod 21:02 Doc22 that works as a patch 21:02 Doc22 RealBadAngel, does technic change the recipies for pipeworks pipes? 21:03 Doc22 if it does, where is the recipies list 21:03 Doc22 recipe* 21:03 Doc22 vanessae says that it is technic 21:04 Doc22 ugh... 21:04 PilzAdam doesnt Minetest-tan print something when someone commits to the repo? 21:04 Doc22 i really want to use the pipes in that server... 21:04 Doc22 I had plans for a sorting system 21:04 jojoa1997 i already made one 21:04 Doc22 yeah I want to but the recipes are messed up in that server 21:04 VanessaE Doc22: pipeworks checks for the presence of the technic mod and disables several of the default recipes, so that technic can supply new ones. 21:05 Doc22 ok 21:05 VanessaE hence, comment out two lines in pipeworks/crafts.lua to disable that check. 21:05 Doc22 so that patch would theoretically work if i changed those two lines and put the file out as init.lua in a seperate mod? 21:07 VanessaE forget patching anything. 21:07 VanessaE just comment out those two lines. 21:07 Doc22 ok 21:07 VanessaE in crafts.lua 21:07 VanessaE no other changes should be needed. 21:07 Doc22 I did that and I am putting the crafts.lua file in a modpack 21:07 Rabbi_Bob crap 21:07 Doc22 as init.lua 21:07 Doc22 so it should register the recipes 21:07 VanessaE Rabbi_Bob: what? 21:08 Rabbi_Bob VanessaE, do you have your colors.txt url handy? 21:08 VanessaE sure 21:08 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt 21:08 Rabbi_Bob danke 21:08 VanessaE bitte. 21:10 Rabbi_Bob Updated my mod post and I saw that uber-list earlier, I put it under my mapper mention 21:11 VanessaE now if I could just get celeron55 to add this to the main minetest repo. 21:11 VanessaE it covers *everything* (at least everything useful on my mega-loaded server) 21:11 Rabbi_Bob I'll have to look at the effector handling later, I see that it changed and my quick attempt didn't give the result I wanted. For now I posted what edits can be done to BobBlocks to allow it to load under the most recent mesecons. 21:13 Rabbi_Bob yeah, it's a nice list. I love the mapper feature 21:14 VanessaE it has one unexpected side-effect...... it makes for a somewhat noisy map if you have a lot of shit scattered around :) 21:15 Rabbi_Bob yep 21:18 kaeza VanessaE, http://youtu.be/9lRyon8CdTU 21:18 kaeza at least it animates :P 21:21 kaeza Animation would also be smoother if I knew how to implement a sine wave 21:21 kaeza (i.e. pendulum effect for arms & legs) 21:21 jojoa1997 lol he is doing crunches 21:21 * VanessaE looks... 21:21 VanessaE wtf? 21:22 kaeza yeah :P 21:22 VanessaE poor Sam. split in half by a coding bug. 21:22 VanessaE :) 21:22 kaeza I have to position bones manually along with rotation 21:22 kaeza so Sam is the official name now? 21:22 VanessaE afaic. :-) 21:22 VanessaE but no one really settled onit 21:22 kaeza Sam Ain't Minecraft? 21:22 VanessaE HAH! 21:23 VanessaE YES! 21:23 VanessaE celeron55: ^^^^^^^^^ 21:23 kaeza I think hmmm came up with that idea lol 21:23 VanessaE hehe 21:24 kaeza or was it Jordach? 21:24 kaeza nvm, back to animating! 21:40 Rabbi_Bob I'm out. Nice to virtually meet you VanessaE 21:40 VanessaE cya 21:44 kaeza almost there 21:44 kaeza (at least the walking animation) 21:47 kaeza VanessaE, http://youtu.be/U53sIYQoWew 21:47 kaeza LOL 21:48 OldCoder 21:48 OldCoder WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=33 not found 21:48 OldCoder 20:47:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: 21:48 OldCoder ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': 21:48 OldCoder ...ctuteam_game/mods/animals/mobf/generic_functions.lua:296: 21:48 OldCoder attempt to index local 'pos2' (a nil value) 21:48 OldCoder sapier, ^ 21:48 OldCoder 21:49 sapier I'll have a look 21:50 kaeza :P 21:53 sapier oldcoder how did you do this?? 22:02 kaeza can somebody help me with something? 22:02 VanessaE what? 22:03 kaeza I need to do a pendulum effect. 22:03 VanessaE oh. 22:03 VanessaE oh, Taoki........ :D 22:03 kaeza And I need a value going back and forth smoothly between -1 and 1 22:03 kaeza Sorry, I'm bad at math :/ 22:04 VanessaE a sine wave would do that though 22:04 VanessaE I just don't know off the top of my head how to plot one 22:04 kaeza hmm 22:05 VanessaE not in the 3d space you're working in anyway 22:05 rark_ !up 0gb.us 22:05 Minetest-tan 0gb.us:30000 is up (0.503ms) 22:06 jojoa1997 !up 0gb.us 30000-30002 22:06 Minetest-tan 0gb.us:30000 is up (0.298ms) 22:06 Minetest-tan 0gb.us:30001 is up (0.303ms) 22:06 Minetest-tan 0gb.us:30002 is up (0.295ms) 22:06 jojoa1997 are those numbers good? 22:06 VanessaE they're so-so 22:07 VanessaE under 200 is decent, <150 is good, <50 os great 22:07 VanessaE is* 22:07 kaeza I found this: y = sin(x * 6.28/360); what does the 6.28 mean? Is it 2*PI? 22:08 VanessaE that's pi <-> radians I think 22:08 kaeza oh 22:08 sapier Oldcoder: https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/oldcoder_special_2.0.zip fixed the crash and added log message for this case 22:08 kaeza todl you I suck at these things :( 22:08 kaeza told* 22:08 dsimon hello, everyone 22:09 kaeza so y = sin(deg2rad(x)) ? 22:09 VanessaE generally speaking, the form is y=sin(x*f)*a 22:09 OldCoder sapier, Thank you! 22:09 VanessaE f = a value to set the frequency of the wave, a = a value to set the amplitude, x and y relative to your coordinate system 22:10 sapier oldcoder can you have a look at logfile from time to time? I wonder why this could even happen 22:10 jojoa1997 kaeza 22:10 kaeza so, in other words, f would be the time it takes to do a full step, and a the max angle 22:10 dsimon i'm the author of the changes in the client_transfers_blocks branch on the git repo 22:11 kaeza got it 22:11 jojoa1997 look at pm 22:11 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, more or less 22:11 VanessaE kaeza: it all depends on how you interpret the output of the formula :-) 22:11 sapier if posible I'm interested in the line containing "MOBF ... don't have targetpos ..." 22:11 dsimon haven't worked on it in a while, and i was wondering if any devs here could get me up to speed with (a) what's changed since 5 months ago and (b) what i need to do to make my changes good enough to end up in main branch 22:12 dsimon er, client_requests_blocks is the name of the branch 22:12 kaeza VanessaE, in that formula, I guess y is how much I should rotate the leg right? 22:12 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, scaled appropirately of course 22:12 kaeza ^_^ 22:12 VanessaE x*f would be how fast to scale it basically 22:12 VanessaE of course the formula I gave is for plotting sin on a graph :-) 22:12 VanessaE s/scale it/swing it/ 22:13 kaeza ok 22:13 kaeza gonna try 22:13 VanessaE you'll figure it out from here I'm sure 22:15 dsimon hm, should i come back and talk to c55 when they return? 22:15 dsimon they were the last to touch the branch 22:15 VanessaE for what? 22:16 VanessaE oh 22:16 VanessaE sorry missed that 22:16 dsimon np 22:16 VanessaE you should talk about core stuff on -dev 22:16 dsimon ah, ok 22:17 VanessaE less likely to get lost over there, and maybe more likely to get a response :-) 22:17 dsimon cool, thanks :-) 22:17 VanessaE np 22:17 kaeza SUCCESS!! 22:17 VanessaE kaeza: ? 22:17 kaeza (almost) 22:17 kaeza now legs & arms go back and forth 22:17 VanessaE sweet 22:17 kaeza smoothly ^_^ 22:18 kaeza I have to adjust a bit the angle. then I will upload a demo video 22:18 * VanessaE waits.... :) 22:23 * VanessaE waits some more... 22:24 * dsimon hums the Jeopardy tune 22:24 VanessaE lol 22:24 kaeza actually, I'm doing something wrong lol 22:24 kaeza the legs only swing forward while the arms only backward 22:25 kaeza gimme a min 22:25 kaeza (or 20 actually) 22:25 * VanessaE waits impatiently now ... :D 22:31 kaeza VanessaE, http://youtu.be/ywd7Z9BPcY4 22:31 VanessaE \o/ 22:31 kaeza \o/\o/\o/\o/ 22:31 VanessaE the legs/arms swing a little too far though 22:31 VanessaE back it off by..oh...20% 22:31 kaeza yup 22:31 kaeza that's just a minor edit 22:32 VanessaE yuip 22:32 VanessaE yup 22:32 kaeza but the thing is they work correctly now 22:32 VanessaE yes 22:32 VanessaE I guess my advice helped ;) 22:32 kaeza of course! 22:32 dsimon math: it's not just a good idea, it's the law 22:32 kaeza I wouldn't be able to do that without your tips :) 22:33 VanessaE I feel like I accomplished something then :D 22:33 OldCoder Good 22:34 dsimon brb 22:34 proller waterplus now is okay 22:34 VanessaE I'd love to see waterplus's code integrated into the C++ code 22:34 VanessaE it would give the pipes in pipeworks some real use. 22:35 proller im too 22:37 jojoa1997 hi kaeza pm me 22:38 kaeza can't we discuss it here? 22:38 jojoa1997 dwfine 22:38 jojoa1997 i want to see if you want to join my hunger games server. it is up and running now 22:38 proller VanessaE, waterplus now contains 50% code of tricks , c++ must be much better 22:38 kaeza jojoa1997, I'm a bit busy right now 22:38 jojoa1997 ok 22:39 kaeza jojoa1997, http://youtu.be/ywd7Z9BPcY4 22:39 jojoa1997 working on the player? 22:39 kaeza yup 22:39 VanessaE proller: Understood. I had to pull out all the stops to make plantlife and moretrees as efficient as they are. 22:39 kaeza now making digging and walk-digging anims 22:39 jojoa1997 O.o 22:39 VanessaE that should be easier 22:40 jojoa1997 PULL REQUEST THAT SUCKER 22:40 VanessaE start with walking+head turn, add digging, then subtract walking ;) 22:40 kaeza VanessaE, I left that anim in the video for a possible "running" anim 22:40 PilzAdam VanessaE, map.cpp:1617 <- start here to code the finit liquids 22:40 kaeza the walking anim now swings les 22:41 jojoa1997 running anim awsome 22:41 VanessaE PilzAdam: I haven't the skills for a C++ version. 22:41 PilzAdam gtg; bye 22:42 VanessaE bye 22:43 proller VanessaE, i want to build deep pool from glass, fill it with water, and lower glass must break from pressure and flood around 22:44 VanessaE actually that would be easily done in Lua. 22:44 VanessaE ABm to pick glass randomly, search upwards, count the number of water nodes. If your count exceeds some threshold, abort and remove the selected glass with some kind of fancy breaking animation. 22:45 VanessaE maybe break the nearby glass as well 22:45 dsimon i'd really love to see that as part of some more general water pressure system 22:45 VanessaE these are glass blocks, so they should probably be treated as though they're cemented together as is usually seen in real life 22:45 VanessaE so one or a few break rather than the whole floor 22:45 dsimon so that i.e. you can have a wide pool and a narrow pool connect underground, and use hydraulic pressure to lift a platform on the narrow pool by adding water to the wide one 22:46 dsimon but that may be over complicated :-) 22:46 VanessaE now THAT would be complicated. 22:46 dsimon it would imply a whole volumetric water system 22:46 dsimon there have been minecraft mods that do things like that, but they're extremely rough 22:46 VanessaE that would imply a robust water flow/fluid dynamics system 22:46 VanessaE :) 22:47 dsimon yah :-) 22:47 dsimon well, not that robust 22:47 dsimon it's kind of like the glass thing 22:47 dsimon what outward pressure does a water block put out? add up how much water is above it 22:47 dsimon that would probably be close enough 22:47 jojoa1997 keza are you changing the breathing animations 22:48 VanessaE lesse 22:48 dsimon well, hm, except for the hydraulic thing you'd also have to propogate that "push" through blocks 22:48 jojoa1997 kaeza ^ 22:48 VanessaE that's 1 metric ton of water per cube... 22:48 VanessaE that has to be some seriously strong glass :) 22:48 dsimon well, it IS one meter thick :-) 22:49 VanessaE true :_) 22:49 VanessaE :) 22:49 kaeza jojoa1997, not really 22:49 jojoa1997 ok :-) 22:54 kaeza VanessaE, jojoa1997, others interested: http://youtu.be/edzDAH6-WQU 22:55 VanessaE kaeza: nice 22:56 kaeza IDK what is the performance or bandwith used on high load servers 22:57 kaeza but I think I'll pull request this soon 22:57 VanessaE aroudn 60kB/sec for initial media download, some 15kB/sec for active building, less than 1kB/sec when it's just one person walking around 22:57 proller i think about pressure about a week - and it is not very complicated 22:57 VanessaE depends on how much of the map has already been sent to the client. 22:58 kaeza ok 22:58 proller but must be in c++ core 22:58 VanessaE proller: I guess propagate figures down and sidewaysand whenever a figure should propagate into something that can't receive it (e.g. cobble), then decide if the final propagated value is enough to push the other block aside or break it 22:58 VanessaE thous could be done in Lua but the result would be pretty slow 22:58 VanessaE this* 22:58 sokomine how about storing the map locally? at least the last known stage? for that copying of own buildings aspiremint suggested? 22:59 VanessaE sokomine: seems to me a hacked client could do that, in theory.. 22:59 thexyz 60kb/sec for media download? wtf, why is it THAT slow? 22:59 Kacey back 23:00 VanessaE thexyz: beats me, that's the fastest I've ever seen redcrab's server go - I'm lucky to get 30 kB/sec upstream out of mine (and it can do nearly 400) 23:00 kaeza this prolly will need a better implementation in C++. Currently, it's pure Lua 23:00 VanessaE thexyz: I can only assume it's a limitation of UDP 23:00 sapier currently minetest isn't able to keep entities in sync do you really believ this would work for maps? :-) 23:00 kaeza nevertheless anyone cares for a simple test? 23:01 VanessaE kaeza: you did this entirely in Lua?? 23:01 VanessaE gimme! 23:01 kaeza yup 23:01 kaeza modifying player.lua 23:01 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 23:01 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.308ms) 23:01 VanessaE oh. can't do this as a separate mod? 23:02 kaeza I'd have to copypasta most of it 23:02 AshleyWaffle I can't eveb connect to redcrab -_- 23:02 Kacey come check out my RAM units and other mesecons inventions 23:02 VanessaE kaeza: so copy it :-) 23:02 AshleyWaffle Kacey: YAY okay! :D 23:02 kaeza Kacey, http://youtu.be/edzDAH6-WQU 23:03 jojoa1997 wback 23:03 jojoa1997 what is this? [17:54] VanessaE, jojoa1997, others interested: http://youtu.be/edzDAH6-WQU 23:04 kaeza check :) 23:04 jojoa1997 what is the hand doing 23:04 kaeza digging 23:04 VanessaE it needs a faster, wider sweep 23:05 jojoa1997 what happened to the moving back and forth 23:05 kaeza VanessaE, I'll see what I can do about that 23:05 kaeza jojoa1997, later :) 23:05 jojoa1997 oh ok 23:09 sokomine hmm. a partly wrong map might be better than none at all :-) 23:09 sokomine that nothingness is sometimes disturbing while waiting for map load 23:10 AshleyWaffle Kacey: :( 23:10 sokomine !up redcrab.suret.net 23:10 Minetest-tan redcrab.suret.net:30000 is up (0.201ms) 23:11 AshleyWaffle ancient version is ancient 23:11 Kacey1 bacck sorry 23:11 AshleyWaffle Kacey:D 23:11 AshleyWaffle Kacey1: :D 23:11 Kacey1 i was having issues 23:11 AshleyWaffle aww 23:11 AshleyWaffle now what? 23:11 AshleyWaffle educate us! :D 23:12 AshleyWaffle :'( 23:12 AshleyWaffle how is celeron not an op? :/ 23:12 AshleyWaffle heresy 23:12 kaeza hmm 23:12 AshleyWaffle Kacey: YAY! :D 23:13 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 23:13 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.312ms) 23:13 Kacey ok 23:13 Kacey animals map 23:13 AshleyWaffle yay :D 23:13 AshleyWaffle Kacey: what? 23:13 Kacey that is my animals map 23:13 AshleyWaffle what's an animals map? 0_o 23:13 AshleyWaffle I guess I'm new to minetest, sorry... 23:13 Kacey with mobf installed 23:14 AshleyWaffle I hail from Minecraftia :3 23:14 AshleyWaffle Mobf??? 23:14 Kacey no problem you will learn 23:14 AshleyWaffle cool! :D 23:14 jojoa1997 it is mobs for minetest 23:14 AshleyWaffle whoa cool 23:14 jojoa1997 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 23:15 sokomine yes. they are very nice animals. not as...hm..cute? as the minecraft ones. but loveable :-) 23:15 sapier lol .. cute ... 23:15 jojoa1997 there is also this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4023 23:15 jojoa1997 and mine http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4167 23:16 AshleyWaffle ooo 23:16 AshleyWaffle a WTFPLer 23:17 Kacey im on an ostrich 23:17 AshleyWaffle Kacey: you're an ostrich 23:17 AshleyWaffle :D 23:17 Kacey no 23:17 Kacey can you move in game please 23:17 VanessaE This guy has WAY too much time on his hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=sUtS52lqL5w 23:17 AshleyWaffle Kacey: I'm joining 23:17 AshleyWaffle it's taking forever 23:17 Kacey ooh ya 23:17 AshleyWaffle oh now it's not connecting 23:18 Kacey ooh crap i died again 23:20 dsimon that lego machine is amazing 23:20 Kacey try now lol 23:21 Kacey this is greg the ostrich 23:22 Kacey (since george died) 23:22 sapier *smile* Kacey I'll add naming support in 2.1 specialy for you 23:23 Kacey ^_^ 23:23 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 23:23 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.308ms) 23:23 Kacey different map 23:25 AshleyWaffle Kacey: okey :D 23:25 kaeza just a question. If I put a model in the "models" dir, it gets transferred to the client right? 23:25 sapier yes 23:26 sapier .b3d .x .md3 and .obj 23:30 kaeza ok 23:30 kaeza thanks 23:31 NekoGloop Meow 23:31 AshleyWaffle mooo 23:32 * VanessaE takes a kitten from OldCoder's pile, adds water, and puts it on NekoGloop's head 23:33 * NekoGloop has a very wet, very pissed off kitten on his head 23:34 * Kacey is amazed his little acer can handle 4 people burning an entire map 23:37 Kacey its like everyone doesnt know what creative mode is 23:37 VanessaE Kacey: which is part of why I removed the fire mod from my server :-) 23:38 VanessaE aside from the lag it causes, it's kinda pointless to burn down that which only costs time and not resources to rebuild. 23:40 kaeza VanessaE, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-animplus-0.1.0.zip 23:41 kaeza Gonna post that soon on the forums 23:41 jojoa1997 where do we put this 23:42 kaeza it's in mod format now 23:42 jojoa1997 is it client side? 23:42 kaeza nope 23:43 VanessaE \o/ 23:44 VanessaE installed on my server. 23:44 VanessaE someone sign on, let's see it :-) 23:45 Kacey i cant load the video :( 23:46 Kacey im getting on 23:46 VanessaE I see you two 23:46 Kacey two? 23:46 VanessaE I notice the loading animation is slower than usual 23:46 VanessaE yeah, kaeza is coming up too 23:46 kaeza Kacey, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/out-13.avi 23:47 VanessaE look around 23:47 VanessaE kaeza: 23:47 VanessaE Kacey: 23:47 kaeza I'm still loading 23:48 kaeza VanessaE, I'm in 23:48 VanessaE Kacey: where'd you go? 23:48 Kacey ? 23:48 kaeza It's slooooooow 23:48 kaeza :( 23:49 VanessaE yeah it kinda is.. 23:49 Kacey let me reconnect 23:50 Kacey i wasnt lagging at all 23:51 Kacey huh 23:51 kaeza This is a good opportunity to say +1 to client-side mods :) 23:51 VanessaE odd, you guys keep just...disappearing 23:51 kaeza VanessaE, how is the net load 23:51 kaeza ? 23:51 VanessaE wow 23:51 VanessaE 150 kB/sec at present 23:52 kaeza frack 23:52 VanessaE holy crap 23:52 VanessaE you're spamming the shit outta my upstream :-) 23:52 kaeza this thing sends a bone rotation command every step 23:52 kaeza maybe I should put a timer 23:52 VanessaE perhaps I should remove this mod then 23:52 Kacey kaez is still loading lol 23:53 kaeza yeah :( 23:53 Kacey kaeza, even 23:53 VanessaE removed. 23:53 VanessaE server restarted without it.it was a nice test though 23:54 kaeza it is actually sending 5 bone rotation commands in every step, instead of letting the client do the animation 23:54 VanessaE isn't there a way to tell the client about the model the "right" way? 23:54 kaeza nope. due to the bug I was describing yesterday 23:55 VanessaE which bug? I forgot 23:55 VanessaE the animation blending thing? 23:55 kaeza Irrlicht does not support animating a model and rotating bones manually at the same time 23:56 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoO3K5vOEg haha 23:56 Kacey thats where i got george from 23:57 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4603 ? 23:58 kaeza ahh.. obvious trolling are the best trolling: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4601