Time Nick Message 00:00 Kacey weed is legal where i live ^_^ 00:01 blah_craft_ lucky 00:01 Kacey haha 00:01 Kacey not really 00:02 blah_craft_ honestly i think if weed were 100% legal here, i wouldn't smoke any more than I already do, which is very rarely 00:02 Kacey i almost get ran over by druggiees 00:05 blah_craft_ quick question about the minetest wiki - there's a little section under ""gameplay" that gives some basic recipes... are there more recipes than that? 00:06 blah_craft_ forgive me for asking common knowledge... i just came across minetest this morning 00:07 mauvebic eventually theyre gonna legalize drugs if only to balance the budget through tax revenues 00:07 mauvebic you end up having to treat addicts weather its legal or not anyhow 00:08 blah_craft_ it sure looks that way but I'm not holding my breath 00:08 blah_craft_ good point too 00:08 marktraceur blah_craft_: Yes, there are a *lot* of recipes, because we can add them through mods. Most mods (IIRC) aren't documented at the main wiki 00:08 blah_craft_ oh ok - thx 00:09 mauvebic isnt california having a hard time housing inmates too? 00:09 blah_craft_ lol. yep - i think schwarzanegger pardoned a bunch of ppl years ago but I don't know what effect that had, if any 00:10 blah_craft_ there's a lot of problems in cali but i'm moving out of cali next year anyway 00:11 marktraceur mauvebic: I heard a story about a federal prison in California 00:11 marktraceur mauvebic: They had an execution room that was some size, I don't remember the dimensions exactly 00:11 mauvebic its ironic they wont discuss legalizing drugs but having a public debate about euthanizing old folks is ok lol 00:12 blah_craft_ lol 00:12 marktraceur mauvebic: Anyway, they spent millions building this room, and then a District Court judge came to visit and said "Eh, it's not big enough". 00:12 mauvebic cali has executions? 00:12 marktraceur So they're required to make it bigger or risk having cases overturned on cruel and unusual punishment grounds 00:12 marktraceur mauvebic: At least in the federal prisons, yeah 00:12 marktraceur mauvebic: The federal government has no qualms about executing federal offenders 00:13 kaeza I wish I could delete annoying posts from my topics... 00:14 mauvebic if my gov't wanted to get rid of someone they'd probably have it done by a foreign gov't when said citizen went overseas 00:14 mauvebic ironic how capital (and your job) can move freely through borders but you cant lol 00:15 mauvebic then again who wants to follow the jobs to china or india and be paid what they are paid 00:18 blah_craft_ cost of living is lower there too. the trick is to get a high paying job in a big city and convince them to let you work remotely and live somehwere with a very low cost of living 00:19 mauvebic that comes in trends too 00:19 mauvebic every few years they realize they can save money by having people work from home 00:19 mauvebic every other few years they realize its better to have everyone inhouse for pointless meetings and powerpoint presentations 00:20 Kacey does pipeworks have an api? 00:20 Kacey i want to make an extension on it 00:21 mauvebic my experimental one has some sort of an API 00:21 mauvebic cant say for sure about master 00:21 telek Hey, is it possible to make animated weapons, similiar to the animated torches? 00:21 * Kacey forgot mauvebic worked on pipeworks 00:22 Kacey since they are only held, no 00:22 telek Wait 'Mauve Bic'... You're a tan lighter? 00:22 mauvebic it used to be purplebic before the sex change 00:23 blah_craft_ mauve is purple bro 00:23 telek Erm purple :D 00:23 mauvebic lol i am joking 00:23 telek Well I just reasserted my straight maleness at least :D 00:23 blah_craft_ dang it - i walked straight into that one 00:24 telek Lol, sorry blah :D 00:24 mauvebic actually for a white guy i have a pretty barry white-ish voice 00:24 blah_craft_ no worries - I am very secure in my sexuality. If you try to challenge that, things could get real gay, real quick 00:25 mauvebic i only scream like a woman when im surprised/frightened 00:25 blah_craft_ lol 00:25 mauvebic but ive noticed thats most men lol 00:27 blah_craft_ ever seen the video on youtube - "no homo goes too far"? 00:27 mauvebic doesnt ring a bell 00:27 mauvebic youtube keeps proposing all these conspiracy videos 00:27 mauvebic just because i looked up that 'strange hum/noise" thing from last year 00:28 mauvebic i hate personalized results - it gives the same videos over and over and rarely what im actually looking for lol 00:28 blah_craft_ lol. my netflix keeps suggesting all these crappy chic-flics cause my wife likes to watch those when I'm at work 00:29 mauvebic well they cancelled Boss this year 00:29 mauvebic and renewed mad men which had a god awful season 00:30 mauvebic walking dead was good the first season 00:31 mauvebic and im waiting for berman and bragga to retire so they can make a decent star trek 00:31 blah_craft_ until they started doing split seasons - i heard it's coming back next week for the second half of the season though 00:31 blah_craft_ it's like not quite enuogh to get a good fix 00:31 mauvebic i wouldnt want to be a UK resident though - i hear TV license people harass citizens who dont buy their stupid licenses ( i have no cable anymore lol) 00:32 blah_craft_ what do u mean? this is new to me 00:32 mauvebic BBC/TV licensing? 00:33 mauvebic where do you live? 00:33 blah_craft_ in the US, CA 00:33 mauvebic they pay a tax over there just to have a TV 00:33 blah_craft_ what kind of rackett r u talkign about now? 00:33 mauvebic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence 00:34 mauvebic no one here would ever pay more to be subjected to loader and longer commercials lol 00:35 mauvebic *louder 00:35 blah_craft_ oh now i see - yes our commercials are way out of hand 00:35 mauvebic and buying a dvd doesn't solve anything - youre forced to watch previews for half an hour lol 00:36 blah_craft_ i take those ones back 00:36 blah_craft_ just on principle 00:37 mauvebic well after replacing my dvd player for xxth time a few years ago i said it fuck it 00:37 telek Out of curiousity, has anyone run minetest on a platform other than x86/amd64/arm? 00:37 mauvebic just when i thought i was done building up my dvd collection, hd=dvd and bluray came out too lol so double-fuck-it 00:38 mauvebic beta/vhs/dvd/hdvd/ its all a big racket to get you to buy the same crap over and over 00:38 blah_craft_ ^ that 00:38 blah_craft_ and they wonder why everyone pirates 00:39 mauvebic well its like OS's getting bloatier and bloatier to force people to buy a new computer 00:40 mauvebic what they dont say is how much of the pirated stuff people have owned in one format or another over the years... 00:40 mauvebic and its not like we haven't been there with VCRs lol 00:41 telek Or the fact that they wouldn't have valuable IP to claim against us if not for the hundreds or thousands of years of now-public domain work which they pillaged for ideas, but to which they no longer feel a need to contribute? :D 00:41 telek Oh, and y'know our forefathers allowing them copyright in the first place :D 00:41 mauvebic thats because we dont sell quality products anymore, we sell knowledge 00:42 mauvebic knowledge = power is 20th century 00:42 mauvebic knowledge = money is 21st 00:42 blah_craft_ what's 22nd going to be? 00:43 mauvebic its hard to predict what the economy will look like in ten years 00:43 telek Knowledge=3d printing schematics? :D 00:44 mauvebic not just 3d printing /personal manufacturing 00:44 blah_craft_ i like it 00:44 mauvebic robots are becoming cheap enough to take away even the low wage jobs 00:44 blah_craft_ back to the UKs licensign thing... how do they even catch license evasion? 00:44 telek It's not just robots. 00:44 telek It's also specialized computer software. 00:45 telek OCR, Voice Recognition/Knowledgebase systems. 00:45 mauvebic software is getting rid of alot of ancillery jobs 00:45 mauvebic *ancillary? 00:45 mauvebic yeah 2nd one 00:45 telek Pretty soon they won't need entry level tech support jobs because they'll have something like watson calmly talking the customer through fixing their computer. 00:45 mauvebic and even programmers aren't immune - eventually computers will write better code than people 00:46 telek mauvebic: They'll never write better code than people. 00:46 telek For one simple reason: Falliable developers can not devise infalliable systems :D 00:46 dzho this is heavily dependent on your definition of "better" 00:46 telek Well open-ended ones anyways :D 00:47 mauvebic i had an interest in vrml and neural systems in the 90s, theyve come a long way 00:47 mauvebic in effect the gov't isn't "watching" us per say, software filters all the raw data and flags the suspicious bits 00:48 mauvebic they couldn't hire enough people to eyeball every camera 00:48 telek Indeed. 00:48 mauvebic some countries they pay surfers to watch cameras and report crimes 00:48 telek But once they can identify individuals it opens up the possibility of persecution. 00:48 mauvebic weve had persecution without computers 00:49 telek Yeah, but now if you decide some day you don't like someone there's potentially a body of evidence there for you to hang them without having to wait and gather it after deciding such. 00:49 telek And perhaps cooling your head in the meantime. 00:50 mauvebic "body of evidence" requires a crime to have taken place 00:51 telek And do you have a firm enough grasp on every law in your country to such a degree that you're sure you haven't infringed any for which you could be convicted? 00:51 mauvebic as politicians will attest, the trick is not getting caught 00:52 telek Or knowing the right people to get the charges dropped. 00:54 telek .... 00:54 mauvebic the worse thats happenned to me was 1K$ tickets (i was drunk and slightly obstreperous) 00:54 telek 10k here now. 00:55 mauvebic 10K in tickets? 00:55 telek I think it's actually 6k ticket plus all the court fees, but yeah. 00:55 telek Unless you plead guilty and get it dropped to a lower charge. 00:55 mauvebic i dont go to court 00:55 mauvebic i contest yes, 00:55 mauvebic that gives me 3 years to come up with the scratch 00:55 blah_craft_ I did get a DUI when I was 19 - I can tell you first hand, when u add alll the costs, it is well over 7,500 00:55 mauvebic and i pay it before the deadline to court 00:56 mauvebic theyre gonna start seizing vehicles for that here (good) 00:56 mauvebic we have problems with repeat offenders 00:57 mauvebic and ive always been a pedestrian/bus/metro person so, +100 00:57 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjoSIBAWBHc sfan5|off will appriciate 00:58 mauvebic though im real careful with that now because tickets and student debts are the only things you cant discharge through bankruptcy here 00:58 blah_craft_ yep, part of that cost was 1,800 to get my truck out after 30-day impound 00:59 blah_craft_ try holding a field-services job without a license 01:00 * telek nods. 01:00 telek Mechanics job :D 01:00 telek I've met at least three people with pulled licenses working as mechanics, and only one of them lost a job over it. 01:01 telek One of the others was working for a dealership no less. 01:01 mauvebic yeah no i dont take travellin' jobs with the winters we have here lol 01:02 telek Nah, that's at the shop :) 01:02 blah_craft_ basically - that was the worst decision i ever made and you will not catch me doing it again 01:02 telek But it means they can't test drive, pull cars in, etc. Some places they can't even be insured to work on-premises. 01:02 * telek nods. 01:02 mauvebic i tend not to mouth off to cops unless theyre just looking to hand out tickets for whatever, and ive gotten some funky ones 01:02 kaeza is it possible to store arbitrary data on an entity? 01:03 mauvebic jwalking at 3am on a dead street... 01:03 telek It's not worth mouthing off. Actually best I've heard if you wanna contest it is get down to the department before the end of the shift and contest it with the chief. 01:05 mauvebic i once got a ticket for drinking beer on a bench during a festival 01:05 telek Or sergeant, I don't really know the whole ranking order for LE. 01:06 mauvebic (this while someone was peeing on the streets, and drugdealers operating at the subway station one street away...) lol 01:06 mauvebic civil servants are a special breed of incompetent lol 01:06 blah_craft_ they were supporting the local economy 01:07 telek Dunno, seems like plenty of corporate types are giving them a run for their money. 01:07 blah_craft_ the pee-er was giving the cleaner something to do, and the drug dealers were giving the doctors something to do 01:07 blah_craft_ you were giving the leo somethign to do 01:07 telek I personally thing it's a broad cultural shift rather than problems with specific groups, at least nowadays. 01:07 mauvebic well whatever it worked, i drink at home now screw the bars and festivals and their economy lol 01:08 blah_craft_ I'm just joking - probably just some over-zeleous rookie 01:08 mauvebic naw montreal is the ticket capital of north america 01:09 mauvebic they go trolling events to give obvious tickets 01:09 telek Oh you poor sod. 01:09 * telek heard Edmonton is pretty bad too. 01:09 blah_craft_ How's Vancouver? 01:10 telek So in other news.... JJ Abrams, fresh off a Star Trek reboot, is now directing the Star Wars reboot. 01:10 telek Due in '2015 01:10 mauvebic canadian cities cant raise taxes like american ones, so they resort to issueing more tickets for everything 01:12 mauvebic will this star wars be in incest-free? 01:14 mauvebic i doubt they'd do it the same way this time lol 01:16 Dogzilla131 Who knows what is this? 01:16 Dogzilla131 http://imgur.com/gT6j2eD 01:17 blah_craft_ i don't know - wut is it? 01:17 blah_craft_ sounds fishy 01:17 Dogzilla131 It out the water, its in land 01:17 Dogzilla131 *its 01:19 blah_craft_ did u build that space? 01:19 Dogzilla131 ? 01:20 blah_craft_ the room in which the snapshot was taken.. 01:21 Dogzilla131 nope 01:21 telek mauvebic: Not as a Disney subsidiary :D 01:23 blah_craft_ I have no idea - I thought minetest didn't have monsters, but what do i know? i just found minetest this morning. lol 01:23 Kacey /clearobjects really lags me 01:25 Dogzilla131 http://imgur.com/qyr98MZ 01:25 Dogzilla131 Its in the MOB Framework mod 01:25 Dogzilla131 i think 01:26 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 01:26 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.309ms) 01:26 Dogzilla131 it gave me 3 toxic meat 01:26 Kacey hey sweet 01:26 Dogzilla131 i should eat it 01:29 Dogzilla131 it took me 2 and half lives 01:29 Dogzilla131 when i ate it 01:29 Dogzilla131 ill eat again :P 01:30 kaeza kaeza> is it possible to store arbitrary data on an entity? 01:31 Kacey idk 01:33 Kacey memory capacitor 01:33 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOuo_aWOQAU 01:33 Kacey ima make it 01:34 kaeza nice 01:35 kaeza BTW, Kacey: shameless plug: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 01:38 NekoGloop Is it just me or is login to freenode taking longer? 01:42 NekoGloop Meow? 01:43 NekoGloop Is there any way to detect the light level of a particular nodespace? 01:45 Kacey ok ima make a calculator 01:46 Kacey bbiab 01:58 kaeza NekoGloop, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 01:58 kaeza and hi :) 01:58 NekoGloop I saw 01:59 kaeza comments? 01:59 NekoGloop idk. 01:59 kaeza I'm extending it to support other things 02:00 kaeza like mortars and such 02:00 kaeza NekoGloop, I think you can do it with minetest.env:get_node_light() 02:11 NekoGloop kaeza: The importance of this, if you're wondering, is a random chest generation procedure. 02:11 NekoGloop It would produce chests only in areas where the light is below a certain level. 02:12 kaeza seems good 02:12 kaeza that function should do the work 02:12 NekoGloop Chests may be interchangable with pots or anything else relly. 02:12 NekoGloop really even 02:14 kaeza so you mean something like the chests in the dungeons 02:14 kaeza but with any shape 02:15 NekoGloop Sure. If you feel like making a nodebox and sending it my way later. 02:18 kaeza sure. do you have anything in mind? 02:19 NekoGloop A pot. 02:19 NekoGloop The type that would be made from e.g. ceramic 02:21 telek You should make it double as a helm for the armor mod. 02:21 telek Then we can claim wearers of it are 'potheads' 02:21 NekoGloop heh. 02:21 NekoGloop The pot won't be collectable. 02:22 kaeza hmm... 02:22 NekoGloop kaeza: Half a node in height, too. 02:23 kaeza NekoGloop, how about something like this? http://trialx.com/g/Pots-2.jpg 02:25 NekoGloop kaeza: http://wiki.pixbits.com/index.php/Vase is what i'd like 02:26 kaeza looks nice 02:27 NekoGloop Indeed. 02:28 NekoGloop However i want that design in halfnode height. 02:28 kaeza no prob 02:29 NekoGloop Don't send it to me now, i'm on my ipad. 02:30 NekoGloop Won't do me much good. 02:33 * NekoGloop pokes the channel for signs of life 02:33 kaeza I'll try to make it later. Too tired now. 02:33 * NekoGloop is attacked by a swarm of flys 02:34 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on kaeza's head 02:35 * kaeza puts it along with his 4 other kittens 02:35 kaeza *hiss* 02:35 * NekoGloop sits on kaeza's head 02:36 NekoGloop The kittens tell me it's comfy =w= 02:51 Dogzilla131 Hi all 02:51 Dogzilla131 Finish my mod :D 02:51 NekoGloop hello random person i can't remember 02:51 Dogzilla131 Hello stranger 02:52 bas080 What did you make? Dogzilla131 02:52 * Dogzilla131 puts puppies in NekoGloop head, and pockets. 02:52 Dogzilla131 Dog Blocks 02:52 Dogzilla131 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65952#p65952 02:52 bas080 Hey NekoGloop, Are you really making a pot/vase? 02:53 * NekoGloop hisses and removes them, throwing them across the room. 02:53 NekoGloop bas080: Indeed. No need to link your post, i saw it. 02:53 * Dogzilla131 saves all of them 02:54 NekoGloop bas080: Other than that, is there anything else you can think of for glooptest? 02:55 bas080 ***Bas080 is thinking 02:56 NekoGloop ***NekoGloop is using stupid astericks when typing 02:56 bas080 hehehe 02:56 bas080 How do you do the *** thing? 02:56 Dogzilla131 me dont know whats astericks 02:57 * Dogzilla131 dont know whats astericks is, but still laughs 02:57 NekoGloop bas080: in minetest that means something was said by the server. 02:57 Dogzilla131 put /me 02:57 NekoGloop Which minetest's version of /me does. 02:58 NekoGloop You tell the server to say playername..contentofmessage 02:58 bas080 ok 02:58 NekoGloop actually it's saying "***”..playername.." "..contentofmessage 02:58 NekoGloop But you get my point. 02:59 NekoGloop Because i dont think the three astericks are included in server messages by default. It's just a standard. 03:00 NekoGloop Like 50% of my visible chat is me 03:00 kaeza srsly, this guy is really pissing me off http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65954#p65954 03:01 BackupCoder ? 03:01 kaeza o hai BackupCoder 03:01 kaeza wb 03:01 BackupCoder :) 03:02 NekoGloop kaeza: What? 03:03 kaeza jojoa 03:03 kaeza he's getting up my nerves 03:03 kaeza he does not post constructive criticism, he's just plain b*tching 03:07 Dogzilla131 Its ok kaeza, im okay with the criticism :) 03:07 mauvebic perhaps we could do something to his voice box 03:07 kaeza he somewhat reminds me of this lol http://cheezburger.com/6977654272 03:09 bas080 be nice kaeza, everyone can have an of day Sometimes i can typing 03:09 NekoGloop Like that one. 03:11 kaeza okay, I'll let it pass this time. But he and that Likwid guy seen to be spamming one-line posts everywhere 03:12 * kaeza needs to cool off a bit 03:12 mauvebic since when do cold pills produce auditory hallucinations? 03:13 mauvebic i keep hearing knocks at the door (like picard) 03:13 Dogzilla131 These freak me out. http://cheezburger.com/6993793024 03:13 NekoGloop Since you took them, mauvebic. 03:15 NekoGloop Dogzilla131: I succeeded at keeping my eyes on the cross. 03:16 mauvebic they told me generic was the same lol buckleys never did this 03:16 Dogzilla131 Yes, but din't you see their faces while keeping eyes in the cross, NekoGloop 03:17 NekoGloop Dogzilla131: I saw them changing, not them themselves. 03:37 bas080 NekoGloop, What about some areas have really dense ore amounts. Let's call them mines. I know there has been allot of discussion on this topic. I'm not sure myself but you could ad it for dessert coal or something else just to test if it works for the gameplay. Other ideas are explosive ores. Don't punch the ore or it will explode! Very rare and only between certain narrow heights(to not make it to annoying). 03:37 bas080 Other ideas... still thinking 03:39 OldCoder Hey 03:39 bas080 Hallo OldCoder 03:40 OldCoder bas080, Hello. 03:54 OldCoder VanessaE, what should I update? Are things ready now? 04:26 kaeza sorry to repeat myself (yet again), but how can I store arbitrary data in an entity? 04:37 OldCoder VanessaE, around? I wish to discuss your mods 04:37 VanessaE I am now 04:37 VanessaE but only for a minute or two 04:38 VanessaE mods... Homedecor is stable and ready to be updated. Experimental, improved versions of plantlife and moretrees are up as well (see "newapi" branch of each of their respective repos) 04:38 VanessaE all of these are in service on my server now. 04:40 VanessaE well a few more minutes anyway 04:48 * VanessaE pokes OldCoder 04:48 OldCoder 04:48 OldCoder I don't want experimental 04:48 OldCoder I want not broken 04:48 VanessaE ok 04:48 OldCoder That is not meant 04:48 VanessaE haha 04:48 OldCoder to be negative 04:48 OldCoder 04:48 VanessaE I know 04:48 OldCoder Please indicate 04:48 OldCoder what to install 04:48 OldCoder 04:49 VanessaE in this case "experimental" means i'm not yet convinced this is stable, but it hasn't crashed in the couple of hours it's been under test. 04:49 VanessaE anyway if you wanna stick to the stable stuff, just update Home Decor ( https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor ) 04:50 VanessaE I rewrote all of the doors' code to condense into two files with the help of some loops, and made them respond to right click to open, if the user's version of Minetest supports it. 04:50 VanessaE (else they punch to open) 04:51 VanessaE there was also a bugfix to plantlife but nothing that you need to worry about. 04:51 VanessaE (to the master branch) 04:54 OldCoder 04:54 OldCoder Did you not 04:54 OldCoder tell me to update pipeworks? 04:56 VanessaE oh yes 04:56 VanessaE pipeworks is stable afaik 04:57 VanessaE No one's mentioned any bugs, and no pull requests from Nore to correct anything, so go for it 04:57 VanessaE but, bear in mind: 04:57 OldCoder 04:57 OldCoder ? 04:57 VanessaE er, nevermind. bear nothing in mind ;) 04:57 OldCoder k 04:58 OldCoder So homedecor and pipeworks 04:58 VanessaE yeah 04:58 VanessaE go for it. 04:58 OldCoder plantlife too if I pull the same one as before? 04:58 VanessaE as long as you pull from master, plantlife will only show a minor bugfix. 04:58 OldCoder that is fine 05:00 VanessaE are you running the latest moretrees also? 05:00 VanessaE it's stable, and strictly mapgen-based 05:00 VanessaE (well, of course saplings eventually grow if planted) 05:06 OldCoder How recent is "latest" ? 05:06 OldCoder I have been away for a few days 05:08 VanessaE um 05:08 VanessaE Jan 22,. 05:32 Linxx hello :) 05:51 kaeza new update for anyone interested: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 06:15 jordan4ibanez1 Moo 06:17 jordan4ibanez1 Moo. 06:18 VanessaE moo. 06:18 jordan4ibanez1 Moo... 06:20 jordan4ibanez1 I wonder if I can get my server light commands into minetest vanilla when I'm done. 06:35 kaeza wat 06:45 * VanessaE pokes kaeza with a homedecor door. :_) 06:45 VanessaE :) 06:46 kaeza *the server crashes* :D 06:46 kaeza sup V? 06:46 VanessaE not much 06:47 kaeza have you seen my new mod? It's not...very peaceful at all. But it seems many users were looking for smth like that. 06:48 VanessaE no, haven't seen it 06:48 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 06:48 VanessaE feel like playing around with something experimental? :) 06:50 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/commits/newapi 06:50 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/commits/newapi 06:50 VanessaE also, you forgot to put a proper railgun in your mod ;) 06:50 kaeza sure 06:50 kaeza :O 06:50 kaeza nice idea! 06:53 kaeza haven't played around with the plant_lib API yet 06:53 VanessaE those links are for the new version of the API. 06:54 VanessaE it's what I've been working on all day :) 06:54 hmmmm EnvRef::get_perlin_map() is looking pretty good, rev up your mods for some super fast perlin noise! 06:54 hmmmm :)!! 06:54 hmmmm sorry it took so long to get to this point 06:55 VanessaE how does that differe from perlin....:get2d() ? 06:56 hmmmm it uses my perlin noise functions 06:56 hmmmm which makes it literally over 80x faster 06:56 hmmmm which means you can use perlin noise less sparingly in mods 06:56 VanessaE ah 06:57 hmmmm it's not going to be worth much without a 'get' analog to PlizAdam's set_node_range 06:57 hmmmm i suppose 06:57 hmmmm what i really want to do is scrap that altogether and work on a VoxelManipulator interface with lua 07:00 kaeza is there any way to create a player entity from Lua? 07:00 VanessaE while you're at it, could you extend remove_node() so that it can take minp, maxp and rapidly clear out the specified cube? 07:00 hmmmm i don't think so 07:01 hmmmm vanessa, how is that different from set_node_range with the air node? 07:01 kaeza I've seen that it is posible to :remove() the entities representing players 07:01 kaeza effectively making players "inviisible" 07:01 VanessaE set_node_range? 07:01 VanessaE *looks at api* 07:01 hmmmm it's not in there yet 07:02 hmmmm oh sorry 07:02 hmmmm set_nodes() 07:02 hmmmm https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/440 07:02 VanessaE ah 07:02 VanessaE yes that's just what I was thinking of. 07:03 hmmmm minetest.env:set_nodes({{minp=p1, maxp=p2, node = {name="default:air"}}) would be an alias for your remove 07:03 VanessaE in which case, I take back my request. :-) 07:26 thexyz lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4561 07:29 VanessaE haha 07:29 VanessaE thexyz: to be fair, the revised theme is a little... odd. Any chance of getting some additional themes installed? 07:33 thexyz sure 07:33 thexyz just give me links to them 07:33 VanessaE I'll look into it tomorrow when I'm less tired :) 07:35 thexyz and can you tell me what is odd? 07:36 VanessaE well, as mentioned on the thread you linked to, the yellow highlight for text 07:36 theabc very odd 07:36 VanessaE also, it feels like a lot of screen space is wasted - too much whitespace 07:37 VanessaE but that's just my obsessive nature talking :) 07:37 kaeza it also removed the "Last edited..." message 07:37 VanessaE I think that message was moved to the top of the post 07:37 VanessaE thought I saw it yesterday 07:38 VanessaE "2012-06-12 10:11:59 (edited by VanessaE 2013-01-23 07:03:22)" 07:38 kaeza oh 07:38 VanessaE (homedecor thread) 07:38 kaeza I can barely see it 07:39 kaeza okay, forget my bitching then :) 07:39 VanessaE lol 07:41 thexyz ok, i removed the highlight 07:41 thexyz is it perfect now? 07:42 VanessaE heh 07:42 VanessaE yes, it's better :) 07:42 VanessaE the other grips from that thread seem trivial to me, the highlight was the main thing I found off-putting :) 07:42 VanessaE gripes* 07:42 kaeza while you're at it change the background to VanessaE's HDX texture :P 07:43 thexyz and about >too much whitespace, can you be more precise? 07:43 thexyz kaeza: link? 07:43 kaeza nah J/K 07:43 thexyz well, I was just going to say "nope" 07:43 VanessaE thexyz: https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/menubg.jpg 07:43 kaeza IKR :) 07:43 thexyz nope! 07:44 kaeza trollololo 07:44 VanessaE re: whitespace, look at the main forum page - all that empty space below/around the forum section titles and to the right of the last post time/user, for example 07:44 thexyz though making it changeable may be nice 07:45 VanessaE the Topics column should be shifted left so that the last post user name can be placed next to the date, then all of those sections can be vertically shrunk by a bit 07:45 thexyz that'd look really weird 07:46 celeron55_ ha, this is awesome http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65834#p65834 07:47 celeron55_ VanessaE: make a punbb theme and ask it to be added to the forum 07:47 VanessaE celeron55_: too lazy ;) 07:47 celeron55_ themes can be selected in personal preferences there 07:47 celeron55_ to me, the current theme is 100% right and almost any modification is bad 07:48 * OldCoder is resting 07:52 kaeza okay, time for bed. night all 07:52 kaeza o/ 07:53 thexyz hm.. 07:53 thexyz >Another minor annoyance I just thought of: the "quick quote" option seems redundant; it does pretty much the same thing as "reply". 07:54 thexyz that's odd, quick quote doesn't work as it's intended to in threads with poll 07:55 celeron55_ thexyz: can you check the server logs of where all these views are coming to that topic? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65973#p65973 07:56 celeron55_ ...i guess with my lock you don't have any log of referrers though 8) 07:56 celeron55_ luck* 07:57 lauxrena hello earthlings 07:58 celeron55_ the topic is like 1.5 weeks old and has many times the viewcount of redcrab's 8 month old topic 8) 07:58 thexyz celeron55_: well, i have access_log disabled 07:59 thexyz (for forum.minetest.net) 07:59 thexyz shall i enable it? 07:59 celeron55_ i'd say do that temporarily, for science 07:59 celeron55_ and put the referrers in there 07:59 celeron55_ i guess it should accumulate many accesses to that thread in minutes 08:00 lauxrena so i have a question; what servers do you recommend for someone whos just getting into the whole multiplayer aspect of minetest?? 08:00 thexyz ok, done 08:00 thexyz referrers are there already 08:00 lauxrena i've already visited one and was greated not so warmly haha 08:01 VanessaE lauxrena: http://servers.minetest.ru/ 08:01 VanessaE which one you play on depends on how you like to play 08:02 lauxrena i'd just like to explore for now 08:02 lauxrena i've been combing through the forums and yeah 08:02 lauxrena thought it'd be quicker here 08:03 VanessaE lauxrena: not really, not at this time of night anyway :) 08:03 celeron55_ thexyz: how does it look? a grep will probably tell something already 08:04 lauxrena pssh what is this 'night' you speak of? 08:05 lauxrena :D 08:05 VanessaE lauxrena: that event that happens ocne every ~24 hours, when the light in the big blue room gets shut off for a while 08:05 VanessaE ;) 08:05 VanessaE once* 08:06 lauxrena lol so that's what that is 08:08 thexyz celeron55_: nothing 08:08 thexyz only my ip there 08:11 celeron55_ guess we'll leave it on for an order of magnitude longer then 8) 08:12 thexyz sure 08:14 celeron55_ if it has been a reddit or 4chan or similar post, it could get practically no hits anymore and be completely undetectable :P 08:15 VanessaE bbl. 08:15 VanessaE night all 08:16 lauxrena thanks for the list VanessaE 08:21 lauxrena well earthlings i'm off 08:23 thexyz celeron55_: then it's most likely minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4504, so check your logs too 08:24 thexyz oh, wait, no 08:25 thexyz well, you can check this one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4431 08:32 celeron55_ thexyz: umm? 08:34 thexyz this one has 96 replies and >140k views 08:35 thexyz oh fuck 08:35 thexyz my brain is dead now 08:35 thexyz celeron55_: forget it 08:55 thexyz huh, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/444 08:57 celeron55_ fun 8) 08:58 celeron55_ that piece of log though is 99% likely just the port being used that the unit test stuff attempts to use 08:59 thexyz i had similar problem before 08:59 thexyz probably related to nvidia crap 09:00 thexyz though other games don't cause it 09:04 celeron55_ probably because minetest causes kind of unusual workload compared to traditional games 09:39 berome Hello. I'm gonna see if an IDE will be helpfull for me, for debbuging lua scripts. I choose ZeroBrane Studio, with an ubuntu. 09:40 berome They are several interpreters, wich I must choose ? 09:41 berome Loved2d, Moai, Gideros, coronna, GSL-shell ? 09:41 berome http://studio.zerobrane.com/documentation.html 09:44 thexyz how can ide help you to debug lua scripts that're run inside minetest? 09:44 thexyz apparently, you should choose "minetest" as interpreter 09:45 berome an IDE will help me to write correct syntax at least, no ? 09:46 thexyz probably 09:46 berome ok, seems I'm wrong again...thanks for your answer. :-) 10:05 thexyz >4) graphical engine - irrlicht doesn't give good graphic - in future we should move to OGRE (of course IMHO) 10:05 thexyz suuuure 10:42 whirm1 celeron55_: are you still interested in the hosting? 11:26 Brianetta Hi guys! 11:27 Brianetta I cloned Minetest master last night, got it built. Compared to the 4fps I got from Minecraft, it was an absolute delight. 11:59 jojoa1997 hi 11:59 Mika_R hi 12:00 jojoa1997 hi 12:00 jojoa1997 again 12:00 Mika_R Does the new release save servers? 12:01 jojoa1997 yes 12:01 jojoa1997 it also has a new mapgen 12:01 Mika_R nice 12:01 jojoa1997 well a fixed and revised on 12:01 jojoa1997 it is still V7 12:01 jojoa1997 V6 12:01 jojoa1997 V7 will have definable biomes and rivers 12:02 jojoa1997 what os do you use 12:03 Mika_R I'm back to ubuntu now when i crashed my XP yesterday 12:29 Brianetta Is it normal to encounter bits of terrain that are hovering? 12:29 Mika_R hovering? 12:30 Brianetta Not attached to the terrain ebelow it. 12:30 Brianetta I was playing last night, in the mini-dev-test world. 12:31 Brianetta I kept falling down very deep holes, and finding apparent discontinuities in the terrain. 12:31 Brianetta I do quit and restart a lot. 12:32 Brianetta Hello again, John 12:32 * Brianetta met john_minetest over on #Pioneer yesterday 13:26 sfan5 redcrab.grief New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-07-26 | id: 2523 13:26 sfan5 ^ interesting 14:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:07 sfan5 hi PilzAdam 14:34 Kacey hello 14:43 Kacey anyone on? 14:56 LAD hi kacy 14:56 LAD kacey* 14:56 Kacey hi ^_^ 14:57 LAD :) 14:58 RealBadAngel hi all 14:58 LAD hi RealBadAngel 14:58 Kacey i must go 14:59 LAD stupid computer clock is an hour slow 15:02 jojoa1997 hi 15:03 jojoa1997 who is here? 15:05 jojoa1997 :/ 15:12 NekoGloop Meow 15:12 MinetestBot NekoGloop: meow 15:13 NekoGloop Is my ping-time that low or is the bot laggy? 15:14 sfan5 NekoGloop: i did it by hand 15:14 NekoGloop Oh. 15:14 NekoGloop Why bother. 15:17 sfan5 !g +s irc 15:17 Minetest-tan sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat 15:18 NekoGloop Again, why link me to a definition of irc. 15:19 sfan5 not for you 15:27 NekoGloop whatever 15:27 NekoGloop has anything interesting happened in core dev? 15:29 sfan5 my pull request got merged and github rss feeds seem to be broken 15:33 NekoGloop So when do we get a stable with fancy trees? 15:37 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#0 15:38 RealBadAngel we are still workin on them 15:39 RealBadAngel link is to album with screenshot of trees with HD textures 15:39 RealBadAngel *screenshots 15:46 KikaRz Hi 15:46 KikaRz I'm again... on the desk! :D 15:46 KikaRz VanessaE, sweetie, are you there? 15:47 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, before stable with trees (which will require mapgen v7) trees will be aviable to play with plantslib/moretrees mod 15:47 NekoGloop mapgen v7 is upstream isnt it. 15:47 RealBadAngel no it isnt 15:47 KikaRz well 15:47 RealBadAngel improved v6 is 15:47 KikaRz people 15:47 KikaRz where i set the node name? 15:47 KikaRz like: 15:48 KikaRz Ploty place 15:48 KikaRz or something 15:48 KikaRz or ploty block 15:48 KikaRz (im not going to use ploty. 15:54 NekoGloop Meow. 15:58 Jordach hey NekoGloop 15:58 NekoGloop haihai 16:00 Jordach i did find some strangeness with the new right mouse button functions 16:02 Jeija @Jordach saw your post, will try to find the bug as soon as I can watch your video 16:02 Jordach Jeija, done 16:02 Jordach its up 16:02 Jordach http://youtu.be/pFhxJRwG0Gs 16:03 Jordach last night on LPGC, i somehow replaced a LOCKED CHEST with stairs 16:03 Jordach it also deleted the nodemeta with it 16:03 Jordach you can see its placing nodes where it shouldnt 16:05 Jeija yep, seems to be some incompatibility with my and PilzAdam's patch 16:07 Jordach so you can replace locked chests if youre not careful 16:07 Jordach and lose several stacks of mese while doing so 16:09 NekoGloop Who the d 16:09 NekoGloop Dfmhz 16:09 NekoGloop Damn ipad 16:09 NekoGloop Who the fuck puts mese in chests 16:09 NekoGloop Carry it with you 16:10 Jordach NekoGloop, it wastes a fuckton of space 16:10 Jordach and considering one of my mining trips results in 16 stacks of cobble, space is greatly needed 16:10 NekoGloop Never mind... 16:20 Jordach we have spam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66081#p66081 16:23 KikaRz hey 16:24 NekoGloop You'd think it would at least make its own topis 16:24 NekoGloop topic 16:24 KikaRz why when i do Ctrl + V, the window closes? 16:24 KikaRz or when i press Enter 16:24 KikaRz (on the "explorer" of crunchbang / debian) 16:25 Zeg9 6 16:25 Zeg9 Hi ! 16:28 KikaRz someone? 16:28 OldCoder Hi 16:29 RealBadAngel Jordach, why dont you use bags? 16:29 Jordach because extra menu 16:29 RealBadAngel have you tried UI? 16:29 Jordach because extra menu 16:29 KikaRz people, how i change file manager? 16:30 Zeg9 Install another one 16:30 RealBadAngel in UI its max simplified to use the bags 16:30 Zeg9 (no kidding ...) 16:30 KikaRz ... i said: how i change file manager. 16:30 KikaRz not how to install it 16:30 KikaRz i want a better one, this one is glitchy. closes when i press Ctrl + V or Enter on text boxes. 16:30 RealBadAngel in original Cornernote's version it wasnt so handy 16:34 rubenwardy hi all 16:36 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Care to share 16:40 rubenwardy spam bot, I think: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66079#p66079 16:41 markveidemanis hi 16:43 jojoa1997 VanessaE: you there? 16:43 jojoa1997 anyone: Does VanessaE's plantlife mod contain the habitat mod by here? 16:44 markveidemanis Hi jojoa 16:44 jojoa1997 hi 16:44 jojoa1997 :/ 16:45 jojoa1997 i am still sick. i got to school but last period i felt :/ and had to have my mom pick me up. 16:46 markveidemanis theres just one week left 16:46 jojoa1997 no 16:46 jojoa1997 not for me 16:46 markveidemanis Ok 16:46 jojoa1997 how is the server 16:47 jojoa1997 marktwain one 16:47 markveidemanis Umm... 16:47 NekoGloop so all the spammers are friends. 16:47 NekoGloop Seems legit 16:47 markveidemanis empty 16:47 jojoa1997 NekGloop: i am not a spammer 16:48 markveidemanis animals needs removing 16:48 markveidemanis along with all the other crap 16:48 markveidemanis that takes ages to load media 16:48 jojoa1997 they are great but cause too much lag 16:48 jojoa1997 go to #mtmt 16:48 markveidemanis :D 16:49 rubenwardy (4:47:58 PM) jojoa1997: NekGloop: i am not a spammer 16:49 rubenwardy You just post on average 24 posts a day 16:50 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933 16:50 rubenwardy 24.837209302325581395348837209302 posts a day 16:50 rubenwardy 1068 posts in 43 days 16:50 RealBadAngel sorry, was talkin and havent seen your request 16:51 jojoa1997 so i just am giving ideas. do you want me to consolidate all my posts to one a topic 16:51 RealBadAngel yeah, write a book ;) 16:51 jojoa1997 also i do hold back on a bunch i want to say 16:51 RealBadAngel kidding ;) 16:51 jojoa1997 RBA whos request and what is the request 16:52 RealBadAngel NekoGloop's 16:52 rubenwardy No, but I have seen may times that you have forgoten to use the edit button. 16:52 rubenwardy :P 16:52 RealBadAngel he asked for a link 16:52 jojoa1997 i am learning this is the first forum i ever joined 16:52 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/tb/17976v 16:52 Calinou noooo 16:53 jojoa1997 also can somone help me with an error 16:53 jojoa1997 11:48:07: ERROR[main]: The following mods have unsatisfied dependencies: bamboo 16:53 rubenwardy you need to install bamboo mod 16:53 jojoa1997 i check dependencies and i have them. also i can still play the game but it wont load the bamboo mod 16:54 rubenwardy is bamboo directly called "bamboo" 16:54 rubenwardy (folder name) 16:54 jojoa1997 and the bamboo mod has unsatified dependencies 16:54 jojoa1997 yes 16:54 rubenwardy sometimes they all need to be in the same mod folder (ie: minetest/mods/minetest) 16:55 rubenwardy compared to "minetest/game//mods 16:55 rubenwardy " 16:55 jojoa1997 could it be in this 16:55 jojoa1997 minetest/mods/test 16:55 jojoa1997 the game is called test_game 16:55 jojoa1997 and the mods do load 16:56 rubenwardy huh? 16:56 jojoa1997 i have others in it but the bamboo mod is the only one with an erroe 16:56 jojoa1997 error 16:56 rubenwardy do you mean minetest/game/test 16:56 jojoa1997 nonono 16:56 rubenwardy or minetest/mods/minetest/test 16:56 jojoa1997 i have a game called minetest/game/test_game 16:56 jojoa1997 and the mods are in minetest/mods/test 16:56 markveidemanis jojoa go on the server, look at mainframe 16:57 markveidemanis 0,502,0 16:57 jojoa1997 one sec 16:57 rubenwardy they have to be in the minetest folder 16:57 rubenwardy minetest/mods/minetest/test 16:58 * Calinou is trying this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66046#p66046 16:58 jojoa1997 nope same error one sec 16:59 jojoa1997 this is the dependencies 16:59 jojoa1997 default,habitat 16:59 rubenwardy I wish sfan5 would format this list better http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ 16:59 jojoa1997 that is what is written in the depends.txt 17:00 jojoa1997 do i need to have it like this default habitat or this default,habitat 17:01 rubenwardy sfan, what is the latest build you have done? 17:01 * Jordach plays the waiting game with rendering a videop 17:01 Jordach -p 17:01 Jordach and yes, im doing a first minetes video properly 17:01 Jordach minetest* 17:02 markveidemanis you timed out 17:02 Jordach 26 mins, how fun :P 17:02 jojoa1997 guys with the favorite servers in the multiplayer tab do you have servers listed 17:03 Jordach jojoa1997, not saying mine :P 17:03 jojoa1997 as in it isnt saving the server 17:03 Jordach after 27 mins of hell -- im not going through that again 17:03 berome jojoa1997: 17:04 berome depends.txt: 17:04 berome List of mods that have to be loaded before loading this mod. 17:04 berome A single line contains a single modname. 17:04 jojoa1997 ok thanks but i deleted it 17:07 rubenwardy (5:01:32 PM) rubenwardy: sfan, what is the latest build you have done? sfan5 17:09 markveidemanis how do i do a link in forum? 17:09 rubenwardy [url] [/url] 17:10 markveidemanis k 17:12 markveidemanis help... 17:12 markveidemanis SpringLobby 17:14 markveidemanis HI! 17:15 markveidemanis OldCoder 17:15 OldCoder Hi! 17:15 OldCoder Had a PC problem 17:15 OldCoder I am here for the day except for small errands 17:16 markveidemanis go on #mtmt , i need to give links and its *spammy* 17:16 OldCoder PM 17:16 OldCoder Channel not needed for links 17:16 Jordach hey OldCoder 17:16 jojoa1997 oc i also want to talk to you on #mtmt 17:16 Jordach had a nice trip? 17:17 jojoa1997 OC where did you go? 17:19 OldCoder jojoa1997, Jordach Hi. jojoa1997 a city 400 miles away. Things will be explained over time. 17:19 OldCoder This was my first flight in about 20 years. 17:19 Jordach OldCoder, i think i got your gist 17:19 Jordach (of the overall reason) 17:19 * OldCoder shrugs 17:19 jojoa1997 nice you went to the moon 17:19 OldCoder Over time 17:19 OldCoder 400 miles not as far as Moon 17:19 OldCoder Instead of Luna this was a land of Tuna 17:19 jojoa1997 i know 17:20 jojoa1997 i was goping to say jupiter but then i htought nah too far 17:20 jojoa1997 *going 17:20 markveidemanis ... 17:20 markveidemanis i could have said uranus... 17:21 jojoa1997 how about venus hay hay 17:21 markveidemanis stop now 17:22 jojoa1997 bbl 17:27 markveidemanis do the ghost thing... 17:27 jojoa1997_ what is it again 17:27 markveidemanis nickserv ghost name password 17:28 jojoa1997_ jojoa1997 hi 17:28 jojoa1997_ nnvm 17:28 markveidemanis everyone associated with my server join #mtmt 17:28 jojoa1997_ was gonna try to see if that did anything 17:29 markveidemanis jojoa do you have an email 17:30 Jordach i decided to draw myself with my art style: #http://i.imgur.com/ht5YwVQ.png 17:30 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ht5YwVQ.png 17:30 Jordach (screw you hash key!) 17:31 jojoa1997 markv i do but cant register my name 17:31 jojoa1997 one sec 17:31 Jordach jojoa1997, /join #freenode and ask on how to register nick 17:32 Jordach (beware, you will need to re-enter the password with /msg nickserv identify 17:32 Jordach ) 17:32 berome Jordach: nice; on side of collar is special... 17:32 jojoa1997 what do i ask 17:32 Jordach berome, thats my hoodie 17:32 markveidemanis /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com 17:32 Jordach jojoa1997, "how do i register my nick" 17:33 thexyz inb4 /kick from #freenode 17:33 Jordach 30 seconds 17:33 Jordach (before video finalizes) 17:33 jojoa1997 markv i cant use my email 17:34 NekoGloop Then get a real email. 17:34 berome Jordach: ok, not same colours inside and outside, I have it 17:34 jojoa1997 i have a rreal one but my mom controls it 17:35 NekoGloop ... 17:35 NekoGloop You got on the forums, didn't you... 17:35 jojoa1997 yeah but my mom left here pc on. now it isnt 17:37 jojoa1997_ ok that didnt work 17:37 jojoa1997_ any know a good archiver for windows 17:38 NekoGloop winrar 17:38 Jordach winrar 17:38 jojoa1997_ for all formats 17:39 thexyz fuck winrar 17:39 berome 7zip is cool, no ? 17:39 jojoa1997_ thexyz what do you use 17:39 Jordach http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE my video is being uploaded, so please wait an hour 17:39 thexyz oh, youtube, >This video contains content from We Are The Hits, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. 17:39 thexyz jojoa1997_: i use gentoo 17:39 thexyz fuck youtube too 17:40 Jordach thexyz, lol music in youtube 17:40 thexyz Jordach: sure 17:40 jojoa1997_ thexyz does it compress and decompress all formats or alot of formats 17:40 thexyz this is music video by Lindsey Stirling and I can't fucking watch it 17:40 thexyz i'm depressed 17:40 thexyz jojoa1997: of course it can 17:41 jojoa1997 also is it free 17:41 thexyz as in freedom, yeah 17:41 * Jordach hands thexyz a kitten 17:41 NekoGloop 7zip is good if you don't mind shitty interfaces 17:41 NekoGloop Which goes with the irssi user 17:41 berome :-) 17:41 jojoa1997 thexyz that is for linux not windows 17:41 thexyz shitty interface? 17:42 jojoa1997 is the any archiver that is on windows by default 17:42 thexyz wtf do you use unarchiver for? 17:42 NekoGloop buttons that use a whopping 2 colors? 17:42 thexyz there should be only one fucking command: decompress 17:42 jojoa1997 what about compressing 17:42 thexyz oh, well, one more button 17:43 NekoGloop jojoa1997: explorer.exe can open and make .zip's if i'm not mistaken. 17:43 Jordach bbiab 17:43 thexyz well, in 7zip for windows you just right-click archive and select 7zip→decompress 17:43 thexyz iirc 17:43 NekoGloop winrar supports a lot of formats as well. 17:43 thexyz it's not free 17:43 NekoGloop it is 17:44 thexyz nope 17:44 NekoGloop they *want* you to pay for it, but don't *make* you pay for it. 17:44 jojoa1997 i was using hamster archiver but that has problems 17:45 NekoGloop Why would you use a hamster for archiving 17:45 thexyz NekoGloop: read the fucking license 17:45 thexyz The software is distributed as try before you buy. This means that anyone may use the software during a test period of a maximum of 40 days at no charge. Following this test period, the user must purchase a license to continue using the software. 17:46 thexyz it's not free 17:46 thexyz and you have to buy it 17:46 NekoGloop thexyz: If that's the case then why don't they actually make it so you have to. 17:46 jojoa1997 i am trying 7zip 17:46 NekoGloop You just get a popup when the program opens, which is easily closed with the close button... 17:46 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, have you tried UI? 17:47 thexyz NekoGloop: dunno 17:47 thexyz still 17:47 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: An old version, apparently. 17:48 thexyz there was a possibility to get a free win8 key 17:48 thexyz though that didn't make your win8 "legal" 17:48 RealBadAngel who cares bout 8 17:48 NekoGloop Neither rba nor 0gb.us like to keep update logs or update version numbers. 17:49 RealBadAngel http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/windows-good-and-shit.jpg 17:50 thexyz where's win 2k? 17:50 jojoa1997 so just wait for windows # 17:50 jojoa1997 #=an odd number 17:50 marktraceur RealBadAngel: There are some typos there, they spelled "shit" as "good" a few times 17:51 RealBadAngel its a funny picture just 17:51 RealBadAngel imho there nothin like "good" microsoft OS 17:52 jojoa1997 hay windows 7 is good 17:52 RealBadAngel usable, but not any good 17:53 jojoa1997 i like it and i am perfectly happy 17:53 Doc22 the only reason I use windows 17:53 Doc22 is because of call of duty, and a ton of other stuff that isnt on linux 17:54 RealBadAngel answer is Wine 17:54 RealBadAngel and i bet you can run Call of Duty on linux 17:55 Doc22 hmm it uses steam so.. 17:55 Doc22 well at least for black ops 2 17:55 marktraceur jojoa1997: People in insane asyla can also be happy, but that doesn't make an asylum good 17:55 thexyz Doc22: so? 17:56 Doc22 I also need to learn more about linux 17:56 thexyz steam can be run via wine 17:56 Doc22 oh ok 17:56 Jordach RealBadAngel, problem with your image, what about win2000 17:56 Doc22 well i already payed 200$ for windows 7 :/ 17:56 Doc22 and loaded all my stuff 17:56 Doc22 I know that linux is better, but I am not that experienced. 17:57 jojoa1997 markv you there 17:57 Doc22 eventually I want to host a web server on linux 17:57 marktraceur Doc22: You should also try GNU, it's really useful 17:57 Doc22 with dns, mail, etc 17:57 Doc22 okay 17:57 RealBadAngel call of duty: moder warfare. status Gold. means runs perfectly on linux 17:57 RealBadAngel http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8613 17:58 RealBadAngel world at war too 17:58 RealBadAngel http://appdb.winehq.org/index.php 17:59 RealBadAngel if some would like to check what games runs on linux 18:00 * Jordach gives NekoGloop a kitten 18:00 marktraceur RealBadAngel: You mean it runs perfectly on WINE 18:00 marktraceur Which isn't Linux, because it's compiled for other kernels also (IIRC) 18:00 RealBadAngel and thus on Linux 18:00 NekoGloop wine == windows 18:00 RealBadAngel no 18:00 marktraceur NekoGloop: With type coercion, yes 18:00 marktraceur WINE !== Windows 18:01 RealBadAngel its API compability layer 18:01 marktraceur But WINE == Windows 18:01 RealBadAngel and Wine Is Not Emulator 18:01 marktraceur Interestingly, !WINE == Windows also 18:01 thexyz but RealBadAngel but wine for arm is 18:01 Jordach 21 mins in my newest yt vid, aint nobody got no time for that 18:01 thexyz there's also wine for windows, btw 18:01 Jordach (uploading wise) 18:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Anyway, the ultimate lesson in this conversation is, this is neither a place for Call of Duty tech support nor for WINE tech support. 18:06 RealBadAngel hehe, indeed 18:09 Calinou well i already payed 200$ for windows 7 :/ 18:09 Calinou lol 18:10 Calinou I accidentally my IRC client 18:14 NekoGloop I accidentally my cares. 18:15 Doc22 oh ok realbadangel 18:15 Doc22 anyway I already have all my stuff set up on windows... 18:15 Doc22 ill learn more about linux 18:15 Doc22 right now im just a hobbyist 18:16 Doc22 so its easier for me to use windows... (inexperience with linux) 18:18 NekoGloop s/for me// 18:18 marktraceur NekoGloop: That's simply not accurate :) 18:19 NekoGloop One does not simply call me inaccurate. 18:19 marktraceur NekoGloop: It would be far easier for me to use GNU/Linux than Windows. 18:19 marktraceur So your statement is in accurate. 18:19 marktraceur inaccurate* 18:20 NekoGloop Why, so you can fuck up your os even more than you can on windows? 18:20 marktraceur NekoGloop: What do you mean? It's easier for me to run an OS that I understand than it is to run one I don't. 18:22 marktraceur NekoGloop: And yes, changing the OS in more basic ways is part of that, it enables me to do more awesome things, better :) 18:23 Doc22 well i grew up on windows xp so im the same way you are marktraceur, except on windows... 18:23 Doc22 I want to learn more about linux 18:24 Doc22 but at this point, i can use windows easier, because I understand it more 18:24 marktraceur Doc22: I grew up on Win98, so I understand 18:24 Doc22 yeah 18:24 Doc22 itll take time for me to really understand linux 18:25 marktraceur Doc22: But working with GNU/Linux for a few years has really been amazing, I can do so much more with this system than I ever could with Windows. 18:25 Doc22 i only started with ubuntu like a year ago 18:25 Doc22 and i had soo much trouble installing it 18:25 Doc22 with compatibility etc 18:25 marktraceur Doc22: The cool thing is, most of your normal functions from Windows-land are pretty similar in the big GNU/Linux distros 18:25 Doc22 yeah i have used ubunty 18:25 Doc22 ubuntu 18:25 Doc22 on a laptop for a while 18:25 Doc22 but I have a lot to learn 18:25 Doc22 about security 18:26 Doc22 etc 18:26 Doc22 how to install stuff 18:26 marktraceur Doc22: The really big advantages are when you can get into the more arcane shortcuts and features. Things like workspaces and command line hacks will be very useful. 18:26 Doc22 itll just take time 18:26 Doc22 yeah 18:27 Jordach http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE my video is now uploaded! 18:28 marktraceur Doc22: If you ever need help with GNU/Linux, I'm available, PM me :) 18:28 Doc22 ok 18:28 Doc22 thanks :) 18:28 Doc22 i also have learned about workstations 18:28 Doc22 its where you have like 4 desktops right? 18:28 marktraceur Workspaces :) 18:28 marktraceur I have 15 on my home computer 18:28 Doc22 workspaces* 18:28 Doc22 lol 18:28 Doc22 wow 18:28 marktraceur I've found that 3 rows is about all I can handle 18:28 thexyz Jordach: 360p? 18:28 Jordach 480p 18:29 marktraceur 5 columns is barely manageable 18:29 Doc22 haha 18:29 Jordach (i play in 800x600) 18:29 Doc22 im pretty happy with my windows 7 pc for now 18:29 Doc22 after all i did spend 200$' 18:29 Doc22 but I will come to you later when I work with it more 18:29 Doc22 I want to set up web server 18:29 marktraceur Doc22: I suspect that most of that was hardware, not software... 18:30 Doc22 and set it up as a host for the network 18:30 Doc22 no it was just for windows 18:30 marktraceur Oh wow. 18:30 Doc22 i put it together from scratch 18:30 Doc22 ikr. 18:30 * marktraceur didn't realize the level of extortion they'd reached 18:30 thexyz yeah, windows is damn expensive 18:30 Doc22 marktraceur is it reasonable to set up a computer between the modem 18:30 Doc22 and a network switch 18:31 Doc22 then connect clients to the switch 18:31 marktraceur Doc22: Yeah, you can use a computer as a router. IIRC VanessaE does that. 18:31 Doc22 and also have a wireless card 18:31 Doc22 in the pc 18:31 Doc22 ? 18:31 sfan5 rubenwardy: look it up on my site 18:31 Doc22 ok because I want to be able to host stuff without worrying about crappy router... 18:31 Doc22 lol 18:31 Doc22 youll have to help me out with that. 18:31 Doc22 masquerading? right? 18:32 NekoGloop marktraceur: 7 is expensive, 8 is somewhere in the range of 69-89 dollars. 18:32 Doc22 yeah but 8 is a pos from what i heard 18:32 Doc22 unstable... 18:32 Doc22 etc 18:32 NekoGloop Indeed. 18:32 Doc22 7 is the best one yet in my opinion 18:32 Doc22 definitely not vista... 18:32 Doc22 probably vista is the most unstable 18:32 NekoGloop I think 7 is down to 179-200 now? Not sure. 18:32 Doc22 hmm 18:32 Doc22 i got mine for 190 18:33 Doc22 i think 18:33 Doc22 or something like that 18:33 Doc22 but i needed non-oem 18:33 thexyz well, I'd better buy SSD for ~$120 18:33 Doc22 i got a ssd 18:33 Doc22 and it runs like lightning 18:33 thexyz Doc22: which one? 18:33 Doc22 1 sec... 18:34 Doc22 http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT128M4SSD2 18:34 Doc22 and it runs like lightning 18:34 Doc22 has 128gbs 18:34 mauvebic do SSD's still burn out faster than hdds? 18:34 NekoGloop I got my whole computer with windows xp and an office suite which isnt MS office but i cant remember what it was. 18:34 Doc22 (actually slightly less) 18:34 Doc22 and yes mauvbic 18:34 mauvebic i got 7 years out of an old 160gb pata lol 18:34 thexyz well, I bought MZ-7PD128BW at ebay for 88$ + 30$ shipment to usa + ~$40 shipment to russia (fuck) 18:34 Doc22 ssds take a slightly higher voltage to reset from 1 to 0 int he memory 18:34 mauvebic shipping here is worse lol 18:34 Doc22 and so after a while (so long that it isnt work fussing about) they become smaller 18:35 NekoGloop The computer has a decent processor, but the graphics card is ew. 18:35 Doc22 not even worth worrying about 18:35 Doc22 it increases the speed a TON 18:35 mauvebic ups charges a fortune and breaks most shit 18:35 Doc22 lol 18:35 Doc22 i had a lot of trouble with asus... 18:36 Doc22 i ordered on amazon.com but forgot to look at the seller... 18:36 Doc22 it was some guy in an apartment 18:36 mauvebic my last netbook they wanted me to ship it myself, it cost 60$ (netbook costed 200$0 18:36 mauvebic *cost 200$ 18:36 thexyz ukraine post is http://www.ilyke.net/uploads/2012/10/19/sub/13616-large-13616-5635989_700b.jpg 18:36 Doc22 and it came with bent cpu pins, heat fluid spilled on it, and missing packaging 18:36 Doc22 as "new" 18:36 thexyz lol 18:36 mauvebic lol 18:36 Doc22 i was just like "ooh 40$ off (click)" 18:37 Doc22 and amazon was like "your order has been placed" 18:37 mauvebic dont worry, if UPS guys smell things like marijuana, ittl disapear and no one dares complain lol 18:37 Doc22 and then it came in and i was very dissapointed... 18:37 Doc22 lol 18:38 Doc22 sooo... 18:38 Doc22 :/ 18:38 Doc22 back to hw 18:38 thexyz Doc22: Samsung 840 pro is faster :P 18:38 Doc22 you mean the ssd? 18:38 thexyz yeah 18:38 Doc22 ok 18:38 Doc22 well i wouldnt know 18:38 Doc22 :p 18:38 Doc22 i just wanted an ssd 18:38 Doc22 its fast enough 18:38 mauvebic i want an external 3tb 18:38 Doc22 by the time my monitor calibrates 18:39 Doc22 it is already loaded 18:39 Doc22 and loading any game takes just as long as the monitor takes to calibrate 18:39 mauvebic i have 1tb + 500gb + 250gb on 3 seperatecomputers lol 18:39 Doc22 i have a 128gb ssd 18:39 Doc22 and an external 1tb hd 18:39 Doc22 usb3.0 18:39 thexyz mauvebic: buy internal one + usb case 18:39 Doc22 i got it on black friday sooo... 18:39 mauvebic that could be cheaper yeah 18:39 Doc22 it was 30$ off 18:40 Doc22 and i dont have to worry about all the stuff and compatibility 18:40 thexyz i do have ST3000DM001 (ok) and WDC WD20EARS (fuck) 18:40 Doc22 i have several old hds 18:40 Doc22 from like 2000 18:40 Doc22 can i do the external case for them? 18:40 Doc22 (they arent sata) 18:40 * Calinou has a 200GB HDD from 2004 18:40 Doc22 what came before sata 18:40 Calinou using it to backup my /home 18:40 Calinou :3 18:40 Doc22 what is it called 18:41 marktraceur IDE 18:41 Calinou IDE 18:41 thexyz Calinou: well, I also have 16gb one 18:41 mauvebic i still haven't yanked the fucked 160gb from the P4, so it takes 15 mins to boot lol 18:41 Doc22 ok 18:41 thexyz somewhere 18:41 Doc22 i can remember that because im a programmer :D 18:41 Calinou Doc22: Samsung 840 pro is faster :P 18:41 Calinou and much more expensive too :P 18:41 marktraceur Ding ding ding, and marktraceur advances to the Jeopardy championships 18:41 Calinou but it has a few more GB 18:41 Calinou no, you have -3,400$ 18:41 Doc22 i spend 2000$ on this computer... 18:41 mauvebic each time i open the case some plastic bit somewhere breaks lol 18:41 Doc22 i dont need to spend more 18:41 Calinou Doc22: lol 18:41 Calinou what's your hardware? 18:41 Doc22 im happy with what i got 18:41 Doc22 ok i have the asus sabertooth x79 18:41 thexyz it's fun to compare it with 64gb microsdxc card 18:42 Calinou who cares about mobos? 18:42 Doc22 8gbs of the "good stuff" ram 18:42 Calinou asus kinda sucks at linux anyway 18:42 Calinou MSI is probably the "less worst" 8) 18:42 Calinou Doc22: 12GB here :-D 18:42 Doc22 i care because it has all the new stuff so that when the stuff os obsolete 18:42 Doc22 i can pop in the newer chip 18:42 mauvebic mobos matters lol 18:42 Doc22 yeah i agre 18:42 marktraceur Calinou: "least bad" 18:42 Doc22 anyway.. 18:42 mauvebic my P4 has a defective bios 18:42 Doc22 i got the 17-2880 processor 18:42 Doc22 LGA2011 18:42 Doc22 i got the corsair H-100 cooler 18:43 Doc22 http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT128M4SSD2 18:43 Doc22 ssd 18:43 Doc22 the HAF-912 tower 18:43 Doc22 (epic) 18:43 Doc22 and a viewsonic 27" monitor :O 18:43 Doc22 its awesome having a 27" monitor 18:43 marktraceur Calinou: How would you say that in French? "le moins mauvais"? (you speak French, right?) 18:43 Calinou CPUs with 2011 socket is for heat condensers :P 18:44 Calinou quad core is enough for me anyway :D 18:44 Doc22 it has a liquid cooler with a 240mm radiator 18:44 Doc22 yeah 18:44 Calinou i7-2600K here 18:44 Doc22 i never get above 20-30 cpu usage 18:44 Doc22 with a 300$ processor 18:44 Doc22 :D 18:44 Calinou (not overclocking it, heh, this is a bought computer, not a built one) 18:44 mauvebic "incorrect IRQ routing tables" 2007 emachines 18:44 Doc22 me neither 18:44 Calinou hexacore CPU for $300? 18:44 Calinou wait 18:44 Doc22 yeah... 18:44 Calinou the cheapest one is 525 euros here 18:44 Doc22 :O 18:44 Doc22 whoah 18:44 Calinou with 270 euros in france you get a i7-3770 18:44 Doc22 ill send you a link 18:44 Calinou 300 euros for the 3770K 18:45 Calinou Doc22: cheapest _intel_ one ;-) 18:45 Doc22 wait a sec... 18:45 mauvebic you can get a tower for around 320$ cdn 18:45 Calinou marktraceur: "le moins pire" 18:45 Doc22 its not 2880 18:45 Calinou "pire" = "worst" 18:45 Doc22 i meant 3820 18:45 Doc22 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3820-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B006YM9JSW/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359139508&sr=1-3&keywords=intel 18:45 Calinou in france, you pay the same number, but in euros instead of dollars :P 18:45 Calinou a $1000 computer in the US will cost you #1000 18:45 marktraceur That makes sense, then 18:46 Doc22 this processor never gets above 30% ysage 18:46 Doc22 usage* 18:46 Calinou €1000* 18:46 Calinou Doc22: 0-4% usage at idle, linux ftw :3 18:46 Doc22 even with heavy gaming, multitasking, etc 18:46 Doc22 me too 18:46 Doc22 when idle 18:46 marktraceur Calinou: It's weird that you would use two superlatives in the same sentence, but no less weird than double negatives. 18:46 Calinou 9% right now (running trackmania and red eclipse, clementine, pulseaudio) 18:46 Doc22 it gets up to around 10 when im using it 18:46 Calinou 1900MB RAM used 18:46 mauvebic http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2817501&Sku=J001-22025 18:46 Doc22 but when nothing is going on 18:46 Doc22 its around 4%' 18:47 Doc22 the highest ive seen is 28% 18:47 Doc22 8) 18:47 Doc22 this computer will last forever 18:47 Doc22 well at least 8 years or so 18:47 mauvebic and then you can reincarnate it with new parts 18:47 Doc22 yeah because of the epic mobo 18:47 Doc22 spend 100$ more on mobo 18:48 hmmmm r u srs 18:48 Doc22 and dont have to replace everything later 18:48 hmmmm mauvebic, is that a good deal? 18:48 Doc22 good value in mah opinion 18:48 hmmmm you're spending $322 on a c2d 18:48 hmmmm before s&h 18:48 Doc22 doesnt have that good of a cpu 18:48 hmmmm you can get something brand new for that price that's way better 18:48 Doc22 but i guess for servers 18:48 jojoa1997 does anyone know if there is a 0.4.4 stable version of minetest for macs 18:49 mauvebic i was thinking servers 18:49 Doc22 yeah 18:49 Jordach jojoa1997, no one here uses a MAC 18:49 hmmmm doesn't matter what it's for - it's a horrible deal 18:49 Doc22 i HATE APPLE 18:49 Doc22 soo confusing... 18:49 Doc22 once i got an ipod... 18:49 Doc22 and I HATED IT 18:49 Doc22 sorta 18:49 thexyz apples are delicious 18:49 Doc22 kinda 18:49 Doc22 lol 18:49 hmmmm the last time someone tried using minetest on a mac he was saying he had problems..... problems that in theory shouldn't be happening.... he never came back though so i couldn't solve it. 18:50 Doc22 better for nomming than using as a computer/ipod/ipad etc 18:50 hmmmm now that my computer has VT-x i can install mac OS X in a vm and do some testing 18:50 mauvebic well i got a new tower recently and its a dualcore too tho it didn't come with 6gbs of ram 18:50 Doc22 :-) 18:50 Doc22 hmmmmm 18:50 jojoa1997 i need to get 0gb.us a minetest build for his powerpc mac 18:50 Doc22 i got 8 gbs of ram 18:50 Doc22 and its "the good stuff" 18:50 hmmmm powerpc mac? you're gonna need to build it on your own 18:50 Doc22 1866mhz is faster 18:50 Doc22 from what i have been told 18:51 Doc22 (ram) 18:51 mauvebic i get by on 3 and the biggest consumer so far seems to be xfce4-panel @ 35% (wtf? lol) 18:51 Doc22 and so far its living up to its name 18:51 Doc22 lol 18:51 Doc22 i use 3 gbs sometimes 18:51 Doc22 because i have like 20000 things up 18:51 Doc22 once i was bored 18:51 thexyz ^^ http://i.imgur.com/qTq1qmu.jpg 18:51 thexyz are there any phones with non-crappy camera? 18:51 Doc22 so i spammed double click on my internet browser like 50 times 18:52 mauvebic minetest runs on 20% of 3gbs here 18:52 Doc22 and it didnt even lag 18:52 Doc22 or get close to 80% cpu 18:52 hmmmm heh, i have an IBM UltraStar that I use in my HP 9000 18:52 mauvebic and chromium at 2% after that 18:52 Doc22 i mean srsly once i had 84 tabs open on my internet browser :/ 18:53 Doc22 my new computer only lags when the program goes into a loop and stops responding 18:53 jojoa1997 can anyone compile the irrchilt for powerpc mac. just that file 18:53 Doc22 and it messes up the timing on some games so it looks like im speed hacking 18:53 Calinou well at least 8 years or so 18:53 Doc22 lol 18:53 * Jordach slaps mauvebic with a: 18:53 Doc22 yeah 18:53 Jordach AWESOME SCREENSHOT 18:53 Calinou let me bet in 8 years, i3s will pwn your computer :P 18:53 Doc22 lol 18:53 Calinou future proofing is not useful 18:54 Doc22 the new ivy bridges are coming out 18:54 Calinou remember that programs in 8 years will be made for CPUs that will exist in 8 years 18:54 Doc22 for i-7 18:54 Calinou ivy bridge is so 2012 18:54 Doc22 yeah 18:54 Calinou we will have haswell in 2013... 18:54 hmmmm ivy bridge has already been out since june of last year 18:54 Doc22 but its the new thing 18:54 Calinou better IGP performance :3 18:54 Doc22 yeah 18:54 Doc22 i dont know that much 18:54 hmmmm haswell is useless for desktops 18:54 jojoa1997 can anyone? 18:54 Calinou on i7s, it should be as fast as a GT630 18:54 Calinou better than nothing 18:54 Calinou hmmmm: no u 18:54 Doc22 all i know is that my computer is epic and it will last for 8 years 18:54 Doc22 i dont care if its obsolete 18:54 Doc22 as long as it doesnt lag... 18:55 Doc22 if its fast, i dont care :3 18:55 hmmmm well that's the reason why i didn't bother waiting 18:55 hmmmm i just upgraded 2 months ago 18:55 Doc22 MMMMMMM BACON 18:55 hmmmm the projected performance increases of haswell are like 2-5% from ivy bridge 18:55 Calinou my computer is almost 1 year old :P 18:55 Calinou hmmmm: intel says 10% at least 18:56 Calinou anyway the prices won't change 18:56 hmmmm even if so, it sure wasn't worth waiting 8 months 18:56 Calinou Doc22: what is your graphics card? :P 18:56 hmmmm and the higher end desktop Haswell parts were reported to come around Q3 18:56 Doc22 its just some radeon.. ill look it upo 18:56 Calinou k 18:56 hmmmm the real cool part about Haswell is the idle power savings 18:57 hmmmm so it's a no-brainer to wait for haswell if you're in the market for a new laptop 18:57 hmmmm also the laptop variants are being released earlier 18:58 Doc22 calinou: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1366279&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE&gclid=CMDG7p-YhLUCFeGpPAodChIAtg 18:59 Doc22 works pretty well 18:59 Doc22 gets me about 60fps in minetest, constant 30fps in call of duty etc 18:59 Doc22 justputting nums out there 18:59 Doc22 i know you dont care about fps in cod 18:59 Doc22 :P 18:59 * Calinou finished 2nd in a trackmania race 18:59 Calinou its just some radeon.. ill look it upo 18:59 Calinou lol'd :-D 19:00 Calinou Doc22: type "dxdiag" after pressing windows+R 19:00 Doc22 lol thats like the category of every video card 19:00 Doc22 kk 19:00 Doc22 nauw what 19:00 Doc22 a program came up 19:01 Doc22 directx diagnostics took 19:01 Doc22 tool* 19:01 Doc22 calinou: ^ 19:02 Doc22 nauw what 19:02 Doc22 hmm ill just start barfing information :-) 19:02 Doc22 Name: amd radeon 6670 19:03 Doc22 manufacturer: advanced micro devices inc 19:03 hmmmm >mfw i have an 8400gs 19:03 Doc22 approx total memory: 726 mb 19:03 Doc22 chip type: amd radeon graphics processor (0x6758) 19:04 Doc22 dav type: internal dac (400mhz) 19:04 Doc22 dac* 19:04 Doc22 Current display mode: 1920x1080 (32 bit) 60 hz 19:04 Doc22 monitor: 19:05 Doc22 generic pnp monitor 19:05 Doc22 (27") 19:05 Doc22 :-) 19:05 thexyz pastebin 19:05 Doc22 ok 19:05 Doc22 ((But its not pastable D:) 19:05 Doc22 lol 19:06 * Doc22 wonders where calinou is... 19:06 * Calinou finished 1st in another trackmania race 19:06 Calinou 8D 19:06 Doc22 lol 19:07 Doc22 soo i got da information... 19:07 Doc22 (up) 19:07 Doc22 calinou what did you want me to do that for? :3 19:07 Doc22 Doc22: type "dxdiag" after pressing windows+R 19:08 Calinou dinner now, bye 19:08 Doc22 :/ 19:08 Doc22 bye 19:08 Calinou Doc22: you can generate a report and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com 19:08 Doc22 ok 19:09 hmmmm hrm 19:09 Doc22 hmmmmmmmmmmm 19:09 hmmmm hey guys, how do i install mods? 19:09 thexyz no idea 19:09 Doc22 ok to install them.. 19:09 Doc22 you go to the folder you downloaded 19:09 hmmmm am i going nuts, do i have to do anything special aside from placing the directory into the mods/minetest thing 19:09 Doc22 then go to /mods 19:09 Doc22 then /minetest 19:09 hmmmm nothing is being loaded for me 19:10 Doc22 then paste the mod folder into there 19:10 thexyz isn't mods/minetest deprecated? 19:10 hmmmm i have no idea. 19:10 Doc22 so paste it into minetestX_X/mods/minetest 19:10 hmmmm this is honestly the first time i tried to use a mod because i need to test my new apis 19:10 Doc22 where the exe is in minetestX_X/bin 19:11 hmmmm well hold on a minute 19:11 hmmmm does it matter if i have only minimal? 19:11 thexyz hmmmm: place it to games/minimal/mods 19:11 hmmmm does builtin/minecraft or whatever load the mods from the mod directory? 19:11 hmmmm ah 19:11 hmmmm yeah see i figured 19:11 marktraceur Ha, minecraft. 19:11 hmmmm mods mods mods 19:11 hmmmm minectest rather 19:11 hmmmm minetest 19:13 hmmmm aha that worked, I guess i'm right in that mods from the mod/ directory aren't loaded without minetest_game 19:13 hmmmm somebody should probably point that out. 19:13 Calinou hey guys, how do i install mods? 19:14 Calinou O_o 19:14 Calinou you don't know how to install mods? 19:14 Calinou :P 19:14 hmmmm that means "i thought i knew how, but apparently not, because it isn't working for me" 19:14 Calinou ah 19:16 Doc22 marktraceur is it you who was asking about artur99 19:17 marktraceur Uh, nope 19:17 Doc22 hmm 19:28 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66120 19:54 markveidemanis hi 19:54 markveidemanis OC: join #mtmt please 19:55 markveidemanis and i think jojoa wil come 19:59 markveidemanis OldCoder 19:59 markveidemanis ^ 20:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, Hi! I was delayed but will proceed with updates shortly 20:00 markveidemanis ok 20:00 OldCoder And yes animals will be removed from your world! 20:00 markveidemanis YAY 20:00 markveidemanis At last...:D 20:00 markveidemanis could you join #mtmt as well please 20:00 markveidemanis and grant me +F in ##mtmarktwain 20:01 markveidemanis and +o but -O 20:01 markveidemanis also, remove the signs that make entities, i know they glitch 20:01 markveidemanis default signs or another sign mod 20:03 markveidemanis OldCoder: to #mtmt 20:03 markveidemanis so i dont have to *spam* here 20:03 OldCoder markveidemanis, I will add that to my list 20:03 OldCoder or try it 20:04 OldCoder If you ask later maybe 20:04 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/lfcn0a Server mod 20:04 OldCoder But can't you just PM links? 20:04 OldCoder markveidemanis, I said to wait for that 20:04 markveidemanis And remove home mod and kill mod 20:04 markveidemanis ok 20:04 OldCoder I will not remember ANY of this 20:04 OldCoder except animals; so please hold it for a bit 20:04 markveidemanis Why can you not add the server mod now? 20:05 babyface1031 hi OldCoder are we going to get VanessaE more tree mod? 20:05 markveidemanis ah yes, add some nodes to clean mod 20:05 markveidemanis all conifers and jungle tree 20:05 markveidemanis s 20:05 babyface1031 or atleast the update 20:07 markveidemanis !ping ompldr.org 20:09 markveidemanis http://i.imgur.com/4zoh59r.png 20:09 markveidemanis that monstrosity... 20:09 markveidemanis and the junglegrass mod 20:09 markveidemanis to clean 20:09 FreeFull Is that minecraft leaf textures? 20:10 * mauvebic coffees 20:11 mauvebic still got 6.2km of underground highway left to go lol 20:13 markveidemanis OldCoder: the server mod is important; it will allow me to set the message of the day and the spawn area, this will be useful 20:13 markveidemanis and i will change it every day with news 20:14 markveidemanis and poison ivy ==>remove 20:14 OldCoder Hi 20:15 OldCoder markveidemanis, do not discuss here 20:15 OldCoder We will PM later if you are around 20:15 markveidemanis then to #mtmt 20:19 jojoa1997 if i put textures in minetest/textures/all do they overide the default textures 20:20 markveidemanis Yop 20:20 markveidemanis And go to #mtmt, jojoa 20:20 jojoa1997 but why doent it work 20:20 markveidemanis named correctly? 20:20 jojoa1997 i am using a texture pack 20:21 jojoa1997 do i put it in all or base 20:21 markveidemanis all 20:22 jojoa1997 but they are in there 20:23 markveidemanis anyone associated with MarkTwain server, join #mtmt 20:23 markveidemanis so that means mod requests, news, screenshots, *stuff* 20:26 RealBadAngel Mark Twain is running any servers? Hes long dead, died like in 1910 i think... 20:26 RealBadAngel or we do talk now bout some paranormal activity? 20:27 RealBadAngel but never heard of ghosts runnin servers tho 20:27 markveidemanis Ahem... 20:27 markveidemanis Its my server and its a name 20:31 markveidemanis ARRRGGGHHH 20:31 markveidemanis teleported to 0,0,300010 20:31 markveidemanis fullrender made no difference 20:31 markveidemanis what is the limit? 20:32 markveidemanis ...? 20:36 markveidemanis Hi Doc22 20:37 markveidemanis 308927 20:37 markveidemanis 30927* 20:40 * Jordach has already wrote 3 theme songs for each type of youtube video 20:40 * markveidemanis goes on google.com 21:24 VanessaE hi all. 21:25 Doc22 oh hai markveidemanis 21:25 Doc22 sorry for late response :P 21:28 * VanessaE pokes Doc22. just because. 21:29 * Doc22 pokes VanessaE. just because. 21:29 VanessaE hehe 21:29 Doc22 :') 21:29 Doc22 err :-)* 21:29 Doc22 lol 21:29 Doc22 XD 21:37 Kacey hello all 21:38 Kacey !up 127.0.0.1 21:38 Minetest-tan 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.103ms) 21:38 Kacey haha 21:38 marktraceur Kacey: Don't abuse the bots. 21:38 Kacey i wanted to see if that worked.... 21:47 marktraceur Kacey: That's no excuse. Test bots in private channels. 21:47 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/3.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/4.jpg 21:47 Calinou ^ sauerbraten 21:47 Kacey i dont have a Minetest-tan... 21:47 Calinou :3 21:48 Doc22 lol 21:48 Doc22 wait so ! + up uses the bot? 21:48 Doc22 to test minetest server 21:49 marktraceur Yes. 21:50 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 21:50 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.308ms) 21:50 Jordach hey VanessaE 21:50 Kacey Doc22: join that server 21:51 Jordach VanessaE, i uploaded a minetest video 21:51 Doc22 okay 21:51 VanessaE hi 21:51 VanessaE you did? 21:51 * Doc22 nudges VanessaE while saying hi 21:51 Jordach http://youtu.be/H_D4y69o7VE 21:51 Jordach 27 mins 21:52 * VanessaE watches it, sans audio 21:52 Doc22 kacey what mods are in? 21:52 mauvebic gots 1.7km of highway left to build lol 21:52 Jordach VanessaE, its just me playing and anotating 21:52 marktraceur mauvebic: How wide of a highway? 21:52 Kacey mesecons, pipeworks, all sorts it is creative mode though 21:52 mauvebic enough for two hovercars 21:52 marktraceur mauvebic: In metres? 21:53 mauvebic its mostly underground with parts downtown above ground 21:53 mauvebic driving surface is 7m 21:53 marktraceur Not bad 21:53 mauvebic tunnel is round though 21:53 mauvebic stretchy 21:54 mauvebic it should connect both ends of my map which has 7K nodes between lol 21:56 mauvebic i wanted to add hover sounds but it already takes forever to load server 21:59 Kacey lagging... 22:02 Kacey Doc22 i must go so i am shutting the server down 22:02 Kacey bye all 22:03 Doc22 awwww 22:03 meldrian ^^ 22:17 bas080 Is anyone willing to make nodeboxes of crates, pots etc... The code is done. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4550 22:21 kaeza hello everyone 22:29 OldCoder NEWS My worlds are shutting down for backups and updates 22:31 kaeza hi OldCoder 22:31 OldCoder kaeza, Hi 22:31 OldCoder I will list proposed changes... 22:32 OldCoder # dogblocks # Dogzilla131 22:32 OldCoder # food # rubenwardy 22:32 OldCoder # docfarming # Doc22 22:32 OldCoder # homedecor, moretrees, pipeworks, plantlife # VE 22:32 OldCoder # animals dropped from mark twain world 22:32 OldCoder Other suggestions are welcome 22:32 sokomine did you restart the calinou world on port 30003, oldcoder? 22:32 OldCoder sokomine, Read above please 22:33 sapier1 oldcoder are there any bugreports by now? 22:33 OldCoder Backups in progress to be followed by updates. sapier just one IIRC... 22:33 OldCoder sapier, there is a report that unknown blocks are flying around. It must be an interesting sight :-) 22:34 sokomine aah. ok. then it's no crash and nothing to worry about 22:34 OldCoder Did node names change for birds? 22:34 sapier hmm have you disabled some mobs? 22:34 OldCoder sapier, I have not changed anything 22:34 sokomine unkonwn blocks happen sometimes. perhaps animals whose names got changed 22:34 OldCoder I am using what you gave me 22:34 OldCoder Do not be concerned for now 22:34 OldCoder Would anybody like to suggest more changes; add to preceding list? 22:35 sapier changed names should be automaticaly updated to new ones ... at least if I didn't miss any 22:35 kaeza OldCoder, mint 22:35 OldCoder That looked complicated 22:35 OldCoder Money has lots of files 22:35 sokomine yes. the removal of the logfiles if you didn't do so already 22:35 OldCoder What is mint? 22:35 OldCoder sokomine, Let us seek consensus here and now 22:36 OldCoder sokomine does not wish public logs. But others find them useful for anti griefing. What are people's thoughts on the matter? 22:36 kaeza OldCoder, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4111 22:36 sapier I've fixed some problems again when are you going to update? 22:37 OldCoder sapier, Right now! 22:37 OldCoder sapier, Do I need to remake a patch? And which two animals needed fire? 22:37 OldCoder kaeza, Short on time. What does that say? 22:37 sokomine i do not agree with the logfiles of who did place/dig which block when beeing publicly visible. there is no way to reach consensus there. either you make it more hidden (developers, modders and players can have a look at it if they need it for development) 22:37 sokomine ..or i have to leave the server :-( 22:37 OldCoder Would people like to respond politely to sokomine? 22:37 OldCoder sokomine, We do not wish that 22:37 OldCoder Would people like to respond politely to sokomine? 22:37 kaeza OldCoder, adds coins as actual items and selling machines 22:38 kaeza the locked_shop mod is buggy 22:38 OldCoder kaeza, that sounds complicated. How widely tested is it? 22:38 sapier animal_creeper and dm need fire 22:38 OldCoder sapier, and did I need to remake a patch? 22:38 OldCoder I will diff now and see 22:38 sapier I'll update your branch to current one moment please 22:38 kaeza OldCoder, tested on Shaun's survival server and locally. Works well. 22:38 * OldCoder goes to diff animals. Would people like to discuss sokomine point? 22:39 OldCoder sapier, I will wait a minute then 22:39 OldCoder Indicate when 22:39 OldCoder Can others comment on mint? 22:39 OldCoder How does it work out? 22:39 OldCoder kaeza, what do you think of logs? 22:40 kaeza OldCoder, you place a vending machine, set the price, and all the items you put in it's inventory are sold at that price 22:40 OldCoder sokomine, issue is griefing and not development 22:40 OldCoder kaeza, are there lots of files? The money mod is messy 22:40 kaeza OldCoder, don't see a problem with the logs being public 22:40 OldCoder sokomine, what is the objection? 22:40 OldCoder marktraceur, VanessaE ^ ? thoughts 22:41 sokomine griefing does require mods who can *do* something with the logfiles. i have no objection against moderators to have access to the logfiles 22:41 OldCoder sokomine, comment further regarding the issues of concern 22:41 sapier oldcoder https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/oldcoder_special_1.x.zip 22:42 kaeza OldCoder, mint uses not many files. 22:42 kaeza but I have no problems if you are against installing it 22:43 VanessaE I have no opinion about the logs thing. 22:43 sokomine the excerpt that is shown may be of limited help against griefers. maybe you can add an interface where people could enter coordinates (or a region) and see who last modified which blocks there. that would actually be more helpful and be less critical 22:43 sapier anti-grief is planed for mobf 2.1 22:44 Jordach VanessaE, seen my video yet? 22:44 VanessaE part of it 22:44 VanessaE had to go do other stuff 22:44 kaeza I don't get it. What does MOBF have to do with griefing? 22:44 sokomine and yes, regarding griefing, i regulary call cactuz_pl on redcrabs server when i notice places where someone has griefed something. but that is diffrent from showing who did exactly what at which time to everyone 22:45 VanessaE sorry to say but the video quality is terrible. it's all blurry, mpeg artifacts everywhere 22:45 VanessaE use high-quality settings net time, let youtube downconvert it 22:45 marktraceur OldCoder: What's the question? 22:45 marktraceur Oh 22:46 marktraceur OldCoder: It might be interesting, but I wouldn't enable it. Make it configurable at least. 22:46 OldCoder marktraceur, the question is logs 22:46 OldCoder marktraceur, I called to you to comment on sokomine point 22:46 OldCoder I am not sure of consensus 22:46 sapier ppl stealing sheep for example 22:47 kaeza ah 22:47 OldCoder sapier, I will get that now then try to settle logs issue 22:47 kaeza true 22:47 sapier ok 22:47 OldCoder kaeza, will comment on mint too 22:48 sokomine yes, i've suggested to build something into the animals to prevent stealing (which might occour on some servers). yet that does not mean that i agree to all my activities beeing shown online and serchable via google 22:48 kaeza OldCoder, another option would be to patch the money mod on the server. Users can take away items from the shop's inventory without buying. 22:49 sapier mobf won't log anti grief it'll just prevent it 22:50 OldCoder Hang on... adding animals again 22:50 OldCoder k, animals updated... 22:50 OldCoder sokomine, what is the primary problem with public logs? 22:51 sokomine that they show who did what when -> violation of privacy 22:52 sokomine yes, i know that this channel is logged as well. it's a public channel. ingame activity is something else 22:53 OldCoder sokomine, hang on a minute while I check something 22:53 sokomine ok 22:53 kaeza sokomine, I see your point, though I don't really care about that. I care more about chat messages being logged. 22:54 * OldCoder watches exchange with interest 22:54 OldCoder sokomine, debate john_minetest if you are willing 22:55 sokomine the visibility of the logfiles could be limited to mods. oldcoder seems quite capable of handling a server 22:55 sapier I'm with sokomine open logs are a privacy issue (but depends on what is logged) 22:55 kaeza john_minetest, agreed. Some users do trust others and have no problems relaying personal info. Making that available to the general public is not a good idea. 22:57 OldCoder sokomine, I can handle a server but my life is changing... I will not have time to do much for a while. 22:58 sokomine especially if there are only some players online those might expect that they can talk amongst themshelves. if something occours that needs intervention by a mod (griefing, technical problem, severe spamming/insults/...), the moderator can look at the logfile. it is the job of whoever appoints the moderator to make sure that that person knows how to handle things - that is, do the job, but gain no further advantage from it or publis 22:58 OldCoder john_minetest, note: yes, chat can be sorted out 22:58 OldCoder Would removing chat help? 22:58 OldCoder sokomine, ^ ? 22:59 * OldCoder proceeds to remove chat 22:59 sokomine for me - no. time+name+what digged is too much for public viewing. but i may stop from visiting the servers now that i know. but i'd expect there to be a visible hint on the website that there are extensive publicly viewable logs so that people may decide weather they want to play under those conditions or not 23:00 OldCoder sokomine, is Calinou World your favorite server? 23:04 sokomine i won't mind if everyone could see *ingame* who placed a block. that would even be helpful. or if all timestamps get removed 23:04 sokomine time + name 23:05 sokomine might not matter if you never build on a server or visit it for 5 minutes once 23:06 kaeza Is't the time logged in server time? 23:06 OldCoder 23:06 jojoa1997 is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does 23:06 OldCoder I propose a temporary compromise. Calinou World is now temporarily not logged. 23:06 OldCoder That one world. 23:06 jojoa1997 why is it not logged 23:06 OldCoder To make sokomine feel comfortable 23:07 jojoa1997 !up minetest.org 30010 23:07 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30010 seems to be down 23:07 OldCoder We will revisit the matter 23:07 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am updating 23:07 jojoa1997 ohok 23:07 OldCoder This leaves mint 23:07 OldCoder Do people wish a mint in worlds? 23:07 jojoa1997 so.....is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does 23:07 OldCoder Does it work and so on? 23:07 jojoa1997 what do you mean mint 23:07 OldCoder jojoa1997, a mod that kaeza proposes 23:07 OldCoder kaeza, I wish others to test it 23:08 OldCoder Then perhaps we will add it 23:08 jojoa1997 kaeza forum link? 23:08 OldCoder It does not appear to be well known 23:08 jojoa1997 i think i might know it 23:08 jojoa1997 but what about using the money mod 23:08 jojoa1997 nvm about the monet mod 23:08 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4111 23:08 jojoa1997 *money 23:09 OldCoder kaeza, mint is possible but I wish to hear from more people 23:09 sokomine the mint-mod looks intresting. i havn't tested it. probably no point on the calinou world since no one else plays there :-( 23:09 OldCoder Any other changes for now? 23:09 kaeza jojoa1997, there are some bugs with the money mod 23:09 OldCoder sokomine, traffic will grow I am sure 23:09 OldCoder Any other changes for now anybody? 23:09 sapier oldcoder do you have reports if "trader"-mob is used? 23:09 * OldCoder prepares to rebuild and restart 23:09 jojoa1997 i think this mod should be added 23:09 jojoa1997 the mint one 23:09 OldCoder sapier, How would it be used? 23:10 jojoa1997 also kaeza's firearms 23:10 OldCoder jojoa1997, It needs to be tested 23:10 OldCoder No firearms 23:10 OldCoder Projectiles are tricky 23:10 jojoa1997 but i dont remember if i alreadyt asked 23:10 OldCoder 23:10 sapier its a trader ;-) you can exchange nodes for other ones when talking to him 23:10 jojoa1997 :(] 23:10 OldCoder sapier, nobody has mentioned it yet 23:10 sapier funny 23:10 jojoa1997 OC the mint would be used by... 23:10 OldCoder jojoa1997, Be :) I am sure you will survive 23:10 kaeza sapier, in octuteam there are a few shops in the middle of nowhere where mobs seem to spawn more frequently, it's useful 23:10 jojoa1997 people give me coin and i give them items 23:10 OldCoder Any other changes? 23:10 OldCoder Going once 23:10 OldCoder Going twice 23:11 sokomine sapier: on the calinou world it is 23:11 Brianetta I can't make doors or stairs. Is that normal? 23:11 jojoa1997 FIREARMS but no 23:11 OldCoder Rebuilding 23:11 sokomine there are traders there. if you want to look... 23:11 kaeza Brianetta, no 23:11 kaeza more info is welcome. 23:11 sapier It's goods are still limited I was hoping for feedback what to add 23:11 kaeza what recipe are you using? 23:12 jojoa1997 so.....is anyone using firearms on their server or know of a server that does 23:12 Brianetta I'm using Git master, and I'm runnign the dev mini thing 23:12 sokomine sapier: oh, i have some ideas about that :) but i'd like to run it on the kingarthur server as well 23:12 Brianetta I'm using the recipes here: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting 23:12 sokomine seems i'm getting a lot of timeouts with servers today :-( 23:12 jojoa1997 sokamine: king arther adress and port 23:12 kaeza hmm... strange 23:13 kaeza Brianetta, you using the "minimal" game you say? 23:13 Brianetta The only one that comes with the Git clone, yes 23:13 kaeza hmm 23:13 kaeza let me test 23:14 sokomine 80.152.199.113 port 30000 23:14 kaeza Brianetta, confirmed 23:15 kaeza you can't make door in minimal game 23:15 jojoa1997 what about this that i saw in forums minetest.king-arthur.eu 30000 23:15 kaeza you ned the "minetest_game" game 23:15 Brianetta I guess I should install the bigger one 23:15 jojoa1997 it says invalid password 23:15 kaeza Brianetta, git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ 23:16 dangertank44 Hello 23:16 jojoa1997 and i forgot it 23:16 Brianetta ta 23:16 kaeza hey tank 23:16 dangertank44 How are you? 23:16 kaeza fine and you? 23:16 dangertank44 Good 23:16 jojoa1997 sokamine you host that server? 23:17 kaeza Brianetta, and move that into ~/.minetest/games/ 23:17 dangertank44 Any idea when the minetest.net 30004 server will be back up? 23:17 kaeza you'll need to create a new world afterwards 23:17 jojoa1997 minetest.org or minetest.net 23:17 dangertank44 sorry .org 23:17 kaeza tank: OC is updating things 23:17 dangertank44 I know this much 23:17 sokomine strange: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx t/o=0.865412): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=537 is what the server gets when my client somehow looses connection 23:17 dangertank44 Any idea when He'll be done? 23:18 kaeza dangertank44, he is getting some comments and reaching consensus about some mods. It'll be up soon 23:19 dangertank44 Alright 23:19 OldCoder NEWS 23:19 OldCoder Worlds back up. Please test! Thanks! 23:19 dangertank44 :D 23:19 jojoa1997 firearms rule kaeza cant wait till a server gets them 23:19 dangertank44 Hoorah 23:19 kaeza jojoa1997, thanks :D 23:20 OldCoder Look for new animals, food, updates to trees etc., and Doc Farming too! 23:20 jojoa1997 kaeza please just make a file recipe.lua on the github 23:20 OldCoder Rather, improved animals 23:20 dangertank44 Oldcoder, the textures are still messed up 23:20 jojoa1997 github client is acting weird for me 23:20 kaeza jojoa1997, you can create it yourself :) 23:20 dangertank44 It's loading dummy images 23:20 Brianetta > ls ~/.minetest/games/minetest_game/ 23:20 Brianetta game.conf mods/ README.txt 23:20 Brianetta Is that the right layout? 23:20 dangertank44 Again 23:20 jojoa1997 18:20] github client is acting weird for me 23:21 OldCoder dangertank44, "messed up" is a matter of debate. There is a fundamental issue and I can't fix it without help. 23:21 dangertank44 Alright. 23:21 OldCoder Willing to revisit that point once I have time; if people will help. Done for today though. 23:21 jojoa1997 try redownloading the mod with the prob 23:21 dangertank44 Alright 23:22 kaeza Brianetta, yup 23:22 Brianetta Didn't work at all. 23:22 kaeza Brianetta, create a new world using the "minetest" game 23:22 Brianetta Did work when I moved it into minetest/games 23:22 Brianetta but not the user-specific directory 23:23 Brianetta Ouch. I didn't fall as far this time (: 23:27 kaeza Brianetta, worked? 23:28 Brianetta It did (: 23:28 Brianetta but I had to move it into my source tree 23:28 sokomine ohhh! the sheep got nicer! 23:28 Brianetta into that game/ 23:29 kaeza Brianetta, maybe you are building a RUN_IN_PLACE version...? 23:29 Brianetta kaeza: I believe I am, yes 23:30 OldCoder 23:29:59: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: 23:30 OldCoder LuaError: error: ...es/octuteam_game/mods/animals/mobf_settings/init.lua:37: 23:30 OldCoder attempt to call field 'settings_save' (a nil value) 23:30 OldCoder 23:29:59: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 23:30 OldCoder Pipeworks loaded! 23:30 OldCoder sapier, ^ 23:30 OldCoder I'll need to downgrade Animals 23:31 sapier latest core version? 23:31 OldCoder sapier, that is what you gave me 23:31 sapier minetest core 23:31 OldCoder Oh... 23:31 OldCoder Hang on 23:31 sokomine but is mobf_settings really needed? a rm -rf on the subfolders of unwanted animals does the job as well 23:31 sapier no isn't 23:31 OldCoder sapier, it is January 15 23:32 sapier jan 15th is to oldm but delete mobg_settings you don't use it either 23:32 * OldCoder is confused 23:32 OldCoder Delete what where now? 23:32 sapier delete the mobf_settings folder 23:32 OldCoder And must I rebuild core? 23:33 * OldCoder does not like to update so many things 23:33 sapier you can decide what you want to do 23:33 sapier if you delete mobf_settings you don't need to rebuild 23:33 OldCoder Should I downgrade Animals? 23:33 OldCoder Fine 23:33 sapier no 23:33 OldCoder Hold on 23:33 sapier don't downgrade 23:33 OldCoder Deleted 23:33 OldCoder Let's see what happens 23:33 sokomine no. just delete mobf_settings and the subfolders of the animals mod that contain unwanted animals 23:35 kaeza anyone care to comment on this one? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4580 23:36 kaeza VanessaE, "Moretrees is not yet to a completely stable state" <== ??? 23:37 VanessaE kaeza: it's still in development, and there are new features on the horizon for it and plantlife. 23:37 VanessaE (see the newapi branch on both) 23:37 kaeza VanessaE, Do you guys think *moreores* should be in the default game <== THIS 23:37 VanessaE oh fuck 23:37 kaeza :) 23:38 * VanessaE deletes the post. 23:38 VanessaE I read that as moretrees 23:38 * VanessaE is an idiot :D 23:38 kaeza cannot unsee 23:38 kaeza :D 23:38 VanessaE (O).(O) "What has been seen cannot be un-seen." 23:39 VanessaE (imagine a picture of a wide-eyed cat here) 23:39 VanessaE thanks for catching that 23:40 * sokomine digs the cat and sells it later on to nekogloop :-) 23:40 VanessaE lol 23:40 kaeza VanessaE, hehe should've quoted that comment for posterity 23:40 kaeza :P 23:41 VanessaE heh 23:42 * Doc22 wonders when 30004 will be back up 23:42 * Doc22 takes cat from sokomine and spoils plans of sale to nekogloop 23:42 kaeza https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/446 <== \o/ 23:43 Doc22 ohh nice 23:43 * sokomine reports doc22' grief to the local cat protection organization :-) 23:44 * Doc22 runs 23:44 Doc22 oh crap 23:44 * Doc22 hides behind cow 23:44 * sokomine stares into the eyes of the first cow she comes accross 23:44 * Doc22 runs from pooping cow 23:45 * Doc22 hides behind sheep 23:45 * Doc22 runs from male sheep 23:45 Doc22 ram* i guess 23:45 * kaeza hands Doc22 an ostrich and a saddle ^_^ 23:45 * Doc22 killz chicken 23:45 * Doc22 thanks kaeza 23:46 * Doc22 runs away on ostrich 23:46 * Doc22 finds computer 23:46 * Doc22 plays minetest 23:46 sokomine sheep are still one-gender 23:46 Doc22 lol 23:47 * sokomine catches up with doc22 23:47 * sokomine looks at the screen 23:47 sokomine cows and chicken come in two versions :-) 23:47 * Doc22 calls times as sokomine is about to put cuffs on 23:47 * Doc22 runs during times 23:49 Brianetta I seem to have stopped being able to harvest stuff 23:49 * Brianetta tried quitting and coming back 23:50 Brianetta Now it's just eating my CPU "Shutting down stuff..." 23:53 kaeza are you using plain vanilla game? or do you have some extra mods installed? 23:53 AshleyWaffle Hi :D 23:53 sokomine happened to me sometimes as well. that was when new areas where generated with lots of rather complex mods installed. sometimes had to be killed by hand 23:54 VanessaE that was when new areas where generated with lots of rather complex mods installed <--- like moretrees? :) 23:54 sokomine er...yes :-) 23:54 Brianetta What do you do when there's only one tree anywhere, and you've already used it? 23:55 VanessaE Brianetta: you hunt around for another, get some saplings, and replant :-) 23:55 Brianetta Hmm. I'm not used to this desert stuff. 23:55 sokomine but it wasn't only moretrees. i was trying the full set of animals as well (those hostile things) and some other mods that change the world as well (technic, though no mesecons, darkage, plantlife, moreores, ....) 23:55 Brianetta I'm not actually used to mine* games 23:56 Doc22 ok im back........ 23:56 sokomine the deserts arn't that large. you can move faster after you pressed j once and after that walk with w+e pressed simultaneiously 23:56 Doc22 hey babyface 23:56 sokomine ah. do you play in singleplayer or on a server? 23:57 babyface1031 hi Doc22 23:57 Doc22 I think that if the terrain generation was changed a bit (space coordinates of perlin noise out more) that it would be better 23:57 Doc22 and hi babyface :-) 23:57 Doc22 I mean for more gradual terrain, more building spots, etc. 23:58 Doc22 and it would be easier to navigate 23:58 Doc22 also having some extreme hills