Time Nick Message 00:51 NekoGloop meow 00:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: Whattup? 00:52 NekoGloop nothing. 00:53 * VanessaE places a kitten on NekoGloop's head. 00:53 NekoGloop I just accidentally my RPG maker, but nothing relavent to this channel. 00:54 kaeza hey Neko 00:54 kaeza YOU WHAT?? 00:54 kaeza oh :( 00:54 NekoGloop wut 00:56 NekoGloop kaeza: wut? 00:56 marktraceur Ha, RPG maker. 00:57 NekoGloop Some very good games are made in RPG maker. 00:57 NekoGloop And not just RPG's, either. There are platformers, beat 'em ups, action-rpgs, etc... 00:58 kaeza NekoGloop have you played "The Bad Guy"? 00:58 NekoGloop nope. 00:58 kaeza it's a spoof of all the mainstream RPGs done in RPGM 00:59 NekoGloop heh. 01:00 Kacey hi 01:01 kaeza searching google it seems it has been lost in the pages of history :( 01:01 Kacey bbl 01:01 kaeza I still have a compy somewhere on my HDD backups 01:02 kaeza copy* 01:02 NekoGloop what RPG maker version is it 01:02 kaeza 9X 01:02 kaeza err... "H 01:02 kaeza 2K* 01:02 NekoGloop eh? 01:02 NekoGloop ah. 01:03 kaeza RPGM2K 01:03 NekoGloop most people would say RM2k 01:03 kaeza yeah 01:03 NekoGloop and RM2k3 for RPG Maker 2003. 01:04 NekoGloop what website was it on? rpgmaker.net? 01:04 kaeza I wish I still had a copy of my *cough*h4x3d*cough* RM2K 01:04 NekoGloop or a different one? 01:04 kaeza hellsoft.net 01:04 NekoGloop Don Miguel 4ever. ;-) 01:04 kaeza yup :) 01:05 NekoGloop it's still impossibly easy to find. 01:07 NekoGloop kaeza: looks like that website doesnt have an english version. 01:08 NekoGloop which, I'm assuming, means that an english version wasn't made. 01:08 NekoGloop sitting through an RPG that is continually babbling in a language you don't know is boring and un-fun. 01:09 kaeza I used to have a Spanish version 01:09 kaeza which may be easier than jap for you 01:09 NekoGloop I don't know spanish. 01:09 NekoGloop I know more japanese than spanish. Which I only know a single japanese symbol. 01:10 kaeza heh 01:11 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sEfeTmj7dw 01:11 NekoGloop pfft 01:11 NekoGloop I can't be totally random today it seems 01:11 NekoGloop background off-vocal for that song is from Ib, an RM2k game. 01:12 NekoGloop I'm accidentally on-topic. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO. 01:12 kaeza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWB4y6aaASk 01:13 NekoGloop >spanish 01:13 kaeza translate.google.com :) 01:13 NekoGloop I ain't translating every single line of dialogue. 01:14 NekoGloop and what can be translated easily is done automatically. ;-) 01:14 NekoGloop chrome ftw. 01:14 kaeza o/ 01:14 kaeza HELL YEAH 01:14 NekoGloop /\o/\ 01:15 NekoGloop If you can make anything out of that, you're welcome to share. 01:15 NekoGloop also: Ib best puzzle-rpg ever. 01:16 kaeza YAY! RM2K works under Wine!! 01:16 NekoGloop 'course it does. 01:16 NekoGloop it's not really resource-intensive. 01:16 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Muadtralk's head 01:16 kaeza I expected it to bitch like it did with Diablo 01:17 * Muadtralk watches as his cat gets jealous and attack the new threat 01:17 NekoGloop ouch. 01:22 kaeza LOL "GO Hepathic Rat!" -- Ash sending Pikachu to battle 01:30 NekoGloop dafuq youtube 01:30 NekoGloop I have it on 240p and it's STILL NOT DOWNLOADING FAST ENOUGH 01:34 VanessaE bbl 01:39 Kacey hi 01:40 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 01:40 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 seems to be down 01:40 Kacey hmm? 01:40 Kacey i bet... 01:41 Kacey brb 01:44 NekoGloop eh? there's a bot now? 01:54 Dogzilla131 Can you tame a wild wolf in MOB framework? 01:56 NekoGloop why, nikon? 01:56 Nikondork there is a user on #minecraft that hasnt discovered alt + A 01:56 NekoGloop Neither have i, apparently. What does it do? 01:57 Nikondork sets you as away 01:57 kaeza WOW 01:57 Nikondork they keep changing their nick to whatever the activity they are doing to set away 02:00 kaeza I only use a different nick when connecting from elsewhere, like from the IRC plugin from my IDE 02:09 NekoGloop meow 02:12 bas080 Pls topic move http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=60593#p60593 to mod releases <<? 02:28 kaeza as you can see from the screen, this one was at -611 02:28 NekoGloop I dont remember what the rarest is :) 02:29 kizeren NekoGloop, Just tried 3x3 and no go..... 02:29 kaeza hmm... found ruby. emerald, sapphire, and another one I can't recall 02:29 NekoGloop kizeren: ah? 02:29 NekoGloop Try making an alatro or arol block. 02:29 kizeren on the talinite block 02:29 kizeren Ok 02:29 NekoGloop Or, better yet, make sure your glooptest version is up to date. 02:29 kizeren 3x3 is one in each square. 02:30 kizeren And no go on Arol blocks either. 02:30 kizeren Um....it is one of OldCoders worlds. 02:30 NekoGloop IIRC I royally screwed up the recipes on everything before 0.0.3 02:30 NekoGloop Yeah it's probably outdated. 02:30 NekoGloop kizeren: because stupid me forgot arol doesn't make blocks 02:31 NekoGloop It isn't *supposed* to make a block for arol ;-) 02:31 kizeren Glooptest is Jan 09 04:23 2013 on minetest.org 30004 02:31 NekoGloop Odd. 02:31 kizeren Just tried Alatro 02:31 NekoGloop Can you try making an alatro block? 02:31 kizeren no go. 02:31 NekoGloop Hm... 02:32 NekoGloop File it as a github issue or I'll forget. 02:32 NekoGloop kaeza: Topaz is the rarest one 02:32 kizeren Which file you put recipes in? 02:33 NekoGloop kizeren: api.lua in ore_module. github issues are universal for the project though. 02:33 kaeza NekoGloop, the world had to be restored from backup due to Octu calling /clearobjects :( 02:34 kaeza I need to dig again :( 02:34 NekoGloop what is the problem with /clearobjects? 02:34 kaeza locked up the server 02:34 NekoGloop Has it counted the player as an object now? ;-) 02:34 kaeza prolly :P 02:35 kizeren NekoGloop, let me try another one of his worlds real fast. 02:35 kaeza nah, there were so many loose leaves from conifers that the server prolly went kaboom 02:35 bas080 Kacey, yey, what are you using it for? 02:35 bas080 firestone that is 02:35 Kacey fireplaces 02:36 NekoGloop kaeza: /clearobjects would only remove entities, not nodes... 02:36 Kacey it did a good job of setting the fences on fire 02:36 NekoGloop So, has anyone figured out the use of Kalite torches yet? 02:37 Dogzilla131 Kacey: You almost gave me a heart attack, with the fire noise 02:37 Kacey i am burning down the fences 02:37 NekoGloop punch the fire. 02:37 NekoGloop bas080: Wanna take a jab at why kalite torches are so useful? 02:38 Kacey haha the forest is still on fire 02:38 NekoGloop Anyone? 02:38 NekoGloop Anyone wanna guess why kalite torches are useful? 02:38 Kacey nope 02:39 NekoGloop Well it's because they don't catch fire. 02:39 kizeren Did not know torches can catch fire... 02:39 NekoGloop ironic, isn't it? 02:40 kizeren report filed on github 02:41 bas080 NekoGloop, why are they useful. You still need wood if you want to turn it into light. 02:41 bas080 So just as useful as coal 02:41 NekoGloop kizeren: It helps if I use my own damn API properly. 02:41 bas080 owww. that's why 02:41 NekoGloop bas080: because it doesn't light on fire ;) 02:41 kizeren Hmm...so there is a bug? 02:42 bas080 feature 02:42 NekoGloop kizeren: nope. just my idiocy. 02:42 NekoGloop bas080: a "feature" where you can't craft storage-blocks? 02:42 kizeren :) 02:43 NekoGloop Pushing fix and table_module to github now. 02:48 NekoGloop kaeza: Topaz and Talinite generate both at -250. 02:48 NekoGloop Anyone who cares: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/9f2974d210eaaf46ebf2a97685c50cdac2845382 Ignore the first file. 02:53 bas080 NekoGloop, I ignored the first file and noticed that you added a table to a mod that is mainly an ore and tools mod... nice! 02:54 kizeren yea nice looking table. 02:54 NekoGloop It's supposed to be a MCtechnic-minor-feature-adder thing. 02:54 NekoGloop Obviously with my own twists. 02:55 NekoGloop YOUTUBE. Y U NO DOWNLOAD 320p VIDEOS WITHIN THIS CENTURY. 02:55 NekoGloop 360p even 03:01 NekoGloop bas080: If you were wondering, the ore_module has an API for pretty much everything you need for making a fully-working ore. If you can use it properly, unlike me apparently. 03:11 Doc22 hey 03:13 mrtux http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/minetest 03:14 mrtux someone ported minetest to slitaz gnu/linux 03:14 Doc22 gtg bai 03:14 mrtux cya 03:14 Doc22 cya 03:47 bas080 Question, can one abm air? 03:51 bas080 Yes, 03:51 bas080 one can 04:03 sokomine won't that cause too many abms firing? 04:04 bas080 Abms don't hurt cpu that bad? 04:05 bas080 your right 04:06 sokomine i don't know 04:07 sokomine but there is a lot of air. it does seem to work with grass nodes 04:14 kaeza wb Doc22 04:14 Doc22 thx 04:14 Doc22 and ha 04:14 Doc22 hi 05:42 kaeza some art at octuteam https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1792266256.jpg 05:42 kaeza by yours truly 05:45 OldCoder hi! 05:45 OldCoder kaeza, that is great 05:46 OldCoder could you post coords if you have them? not important 05:46 kaeza gimme a sec 05:47 kaeza -196, 24, 124 05:47 kaeza OldCoder, ^ 05:48 OldCoder TY!! 05:48 OldCoder kaeza, ^ 05:48 kaeza yvw 06:26 hmmmm hey guys, what are some Lua APIs that deal with arrays? 06:29 kaeza in what sense? 06:30 kaeza what do you need to do exactly? 06:30 kaeza hmmmm ^ 06:30 hmmmm do you know of any APIs that return an array of something? 06:31 kaeza you mean MT Lua API? 06:31 hmmmm yes 06:32 kaeza minetest.get_connected_players(), minetest.find_objects_in_radius() 06:32 hmmmm ahh great thanks 06:32 kaeza why? 06:32 kaeza np 06:32 hmmmm just curious 06:32 kaeza k :) 06:48 LunaVorax Hi 09:24 kaeza_ /g 13:32 jojoa1997 hi 13:33 kaeza hey 13:33 jojoa1997 anyone know of a hunger games server/map 13:33 kaeza nope 13:33 kaeza I'm making a firearms mod 13:34 jojoa1997 i here lots of promises but i havent seen one 13:34 kaeza this may come in handy 13:34 kaeza currently, theres a .45 pistol, a shotgun, and a M4 carbine 13:34 jojoa1997 nice 13:34 kaeza oh and a grenade launcher 13:35 jojoa1997 kaeza maybe you should make a hunger games server. i would help build a huinger games arena\ 13:35 jojoa1997 one mod anyone should add to hunger games is the adventures mod 13:35 kaeza my connection isn't fast enuff 13:35 jojoa1997 ah man 13:36 kaeza but I could help you if you want to make one 13:36 jojoa1997 i would make a map but i have too many tre/ore generator mods 13:36 jojoa1997 a server? 13:36 kaeza a map 13:36 jojoa1997 cool 13:36 jojoa1997 could you make a server and send me the adress 13:37 jojoa1997 just so we both could work on it together 13:38 jojoa1997 well? what do you say 13:41 kaeza told ya, my connection is a slow one 13:41 kaeza not enuff to host a server 13:41 kaeza gimme a sec 13:41 jojoa1997 oh i thought you didnt want to cause of lag. ok 13:41 kaeza would you care to test something for me? 13:41 jojoa1997 sure 13:44 kaeza gimme a sec 13:45 kaeza 186.122.187.79 port 30000 13:45 jojoa1997 ok one sec i am on marktwain server testing out mobf 13:45 kaeza ok 13:45 kaeza tyt 13:49 jojoa1997 the ostrich is wiocked 13:50 jojoa1997 ok what is that adress to 13:50 kaeza gimme a sec, i'm doing a /clearobjects 13:50 * jojoa1997 took a klunk earlier 13:50 jojoa1997 sorry i had to 13:50 kaeza john_minetest ...should I take that comment as good or bad? 13:51 kaeza thanks :) 13:51 kaeza jojoa1997, 186.122.187.79 port 30000 <== john_minetest, if you want to try, join 13:52 jojoa1997 joining 13:52 jojoa1997 john_minetest could this be a hunger games server? 13:52 klunk jojoa1997: I don't understand ... 13:53 jojoa1997 i read a book and they used the word klunk as poo. every time you join i imagine.... 13:53 kaeza john_minetest, jojoa1997: this is a temporary server for testing the firearms. Also, they don't require ammunition for now (to test them easily). I will add that before I upload it 13:53 klunk oh yeah, great 13:53 jojoa1997 kaeza ok 13:54 jojoa1997 klunk read the maze runner series 13:54 klunk yeah, thanks for information. 13:54 jojoa1997 it is a great series though 14:00 kaeza john_minetest, could you test the guns? 14:01 kaeza oh :( 14:01 jojoa1997 i think he means on a private server 14:02 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 14:02 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 14:02 * jojoa1997 viruses +Minetest-tan 14:04 RealBadAngel hello minetest 14:04 jojoa1997 hi 14:04 kaeza hey RBA 14:04 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel how is hometree for pandora coming along 14:05 RealBadAngel be patient, we are not ready with basic trees mod 14:05 jojoa1997 ok 14:05 RealBadAngel but are very close to finish it 14:05 jojoa1997 also why does your tree spawner mod spawn on;ly 2 trees 14:05 RealBadAngel btw, there was update to treegen engine yesterday 14:06 jojoa1997 did anyone make a build 14:06 markveidemanis Hi! 14:06 kaeza can somebody explain what this post means? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4556 14:06 markveidemanis Where can i talk about 3D engines and platforms? 14:06 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, to get all the trees aviable use plantlib/moretrees mod 14:06 kaeza the english is too broken :P 14:07 jojoa1997 there is an ostrich rider on the loose in marktwain server 14:07 RealBadAngel theres a contest, but author forgot to mention bout what 14:08 kaeza lol guessed so 14:08 RealBadAngel maybe the goal is to guess what the contest is about? 14:09 kaeza hehe 14:09 markveidemanis Yop 14:09 kaeza BTW does MT support WAV sound files? 14:09 RealBadAngel ogg 14:10 kaeza hmm... gonna have to install audacity and convert them... 14:10 RealBadAngel convert them to ogg, mono if you would like to get positional playin 14:10 * jojoa1997 sighs 14:10 klunk mono ! 14:10 * jojoa1997 sighs heavily 14:10 kaeza jojoa1997, ? 14:10 markveidemanis Moooo 14:10 jojoa1997 i am sick 14:10 RealBadAngel http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg 14:10 jojoa1997 bronchitis 14:11 kaeza RealBadAngel, thanks! 14:11 RealBadAngel i used that to convert some files to ogg easily 14:11 jojoa1997 and i have to miss 2 days of school while in the IB program(a step above AP) 14:11 markveidemanis Lucky 14:11 jojoa1997 why i am sick 14:12 kaeza bitrate does not matter right? 14:12 jojoa1997 and have to make up at least 6 hours of work 14:12 kaeza or for that matter, frequency 14:12 RealBadAngel for short shound i guess so 14:12 RealBadAngel for music better to have higher bitrate 14:12 markveidemanis jojoa 14:13 markveidemanis make a program 14:13 kaeza these are short sounds 14:13 kaeza some under half a sec 14:13 RealBadAngel i guess gun shots 14:13 kaeza yup 14:13 RealBadAngel so propably low bitrate will be good for them 14:14 RealBadAngel btw there will be a shotgun? 14:14 kaeza yup 14:14 kaeza with buckshot 14:14 RealBadAngel and "its time to chew bubble gum and kick some ass" ? 14:15 kaeza yeah baby! 14:15 markveidemanis Yop 14:15 kaeza I still need to make the grenade explode 14:15 kaeza (I have a "Blooper" ^_^) 14:15 RealBadAngel "your face, your ass... whats the difference" 14:15 jojoa1997 i just got an idea 14:16 jojoa1997 could some one make a portal where you place one end down 14:16 jojoa1997 go exploring 14:16 jojoa1997 and the place the other side down 14:16 kaeza a slight modification to the teleporter should do it 14:16 jojoa1997 you could see through the portal cause you already generated the other terrain 14:16 kaeza nope 14:17 jojoa1997 why not 14:17 kaeza (not yet at least) 14:17 RealBadAngel we need to create world anchors in the first place 14:17 RealBadAngel somethin that will keep an area around it loaded 14:17 kaeza jojoa1997, you should stop looking at Likwid's ideas :D 14:18 jojoa1997 why? 14:18 RealBadAngel somethin that will prevent server from unloading areas where are no players 14:18 kaeza well... you could say the guy has no ideas of the current possibilities of the engine, or for that matter, it's limitations 14:19 RealBadAngel maybe fake player instance 14:19 jojoa1997 make an entity that needs areas loaded 14:20 kaeza RealBadAngel, NekoGloop was talking about something like that to make the furnaces/etc keep active when the player is not around. Is it possible? 14:23 jojoa1997 can anyone tell me why tnt was removed from vanilla 14:24 jojoa1997 kaeza how do i set the seed of a map 14:25 kaeza jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65766#p65766 14:26 kaeza and it's not "world.mt" 14:26 jojoa1997 did you see my reply 14:26 kaeza it was a typo 14:26 kaeza the file is "map_meta.txt" 14:26 jojoa1997 ok i made a world and havent gone in 14:26 jojoa1997 there is only one file right? 14:26 kaeza edit the "seed=" line in "map_meta.txt" 14:27 jojoa1997 but it never made a map meta 14:27 kaeza hm? 14:28 kaeza then copy the file from other world and edit it 14:28 Kacey what are you guys talking about 14:28 jojoa1997 but that has stuff like tree frequencies 14:29 jojoa1997 i want a world made from a seed 14:29 jojoa1997 not one like another world that has the same stuff 14:30 jojoa1997 one sec 14:31 RealBadAngel kaeza, to keep stuff active area has to be loaded 14:31 jojoa1997 here is the info in the file http://pastebin.com/CLzwzh8F 14:32 jojoa1997 can i erase all and change the seed to 0 14:33 Kacey seed = 0 14:34 Kacey makes a cool world 14:35 Kacey just tried it 14:36 jojoa1997 so i can just be spawn = 0 in it 14:37 kaeza RealBadAngel, M4 Carbine: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1824806308.jpg 14:37 kaeza Benelli M3 (shooting): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1824812597.jpg 14:38 kaeza the textures are low quality 14:38 kaeza (64px) 14:40 * Kacey feels lucky enough to use VanessaE's 120x textures 14:41 kaeza Every gun has their own caliber (so you can't use .45 rounds on the 5.56 carbine), spread (deviation from shooting direction), and range (for example, the shotgun has minimal range). 14:42 RealBadAngel my neighbour fallen down from the roof and is dead 14:42 RealBadAngel was tryin to remove snow 14:43 RealBadAngel 63 yrs old 14:43 Kacey 512x pack... 14:43 kaeza oh... sorry to hear that... 14:44 Kacey ya sorry to hear 14:44 jojoa1997 me too 14:45 jojoa1997 RBA could you make the worldedit gui compatable with unified_inventory 14:45 RealBadAngel not now 14:45 RealBadAngel i got too much another work now 14:45 jojoa1997 of course i mean later 14:47 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 14:47 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.307ms) 14:47 Kacey alright 14:49 Kacey now i have high def textures 14:50 jojoa1997 what is that server to 14:50 Kacey my little one :P 14:50 jojoa1997 afk 14:51 Kacey wow... they r going to kill my computer i do think... 14:53 Kacey c'mon little computer... you can do it 14:55 Kacey ooh boy 14:55 Kacey i must go 14:58 Mustek marktraceur, are you there? 14:59 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/aaee2786a76dedb52b154223dac813ac02099a91 15:04 kaeza okay, this guy is just posting nonsense: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65793#p65793 15:31 kaeza is there a helper in the MT API to get the distance between 3D points? 15:31 kaeza 2 3D points* 15:32 kaeza I have already done a routine to calc it, but was just asking in case... well... I reinvented the wheel :P 15:32 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000' 15:32 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 15:32 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Invalid Port: 30000' 15:32 marktraceur jojoa1997: What's up with your little foray to #minecraft? 15:33 jojoa1997 ? 15:33 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 15:33 Minetest-tan jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 15:33 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 15:33 marktraceur jojoa1997: http://i.imgur.com/ujOFcUv.png 15:33 jojoa1997 oh i thought i would introduce some of them to minetest 15:34 jojoa1997 is this right? !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000 15:34 jojoa1997 !up diamondmining.no-ip.org 30000 15:34 Minetest-tan diamondmining.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 15:34 marktraceur jojoa1997: Yelling "MINETEST" and leaving is not how we do that. 15:34 jojoa1997 ok nvm 15:34 jojoa1997 sorry this morning i was a little out of it 15:35 marktraceur jojoa1997: Please apologize to Mustek, he's an op over there and has to deal with problems like this 15:36 marktraceur jojoa1997: He's in this channel right now. 15:37 sfan5 marktraceur: which problems? 15:37 marktraceur sfan5: #minecraft has pretty frequent problems with our users 15:37 jojoa1997 i stupidly put a post in #minecraft earlier i dont know what i was thinking 15:38 marktraceur sfan5: This led to a sort of understanding that we would help them smooth things over when that occurred 15:38 marktraceur john_minetest: Why's that? 15:41 RealBadAngel they do feel breath of Minetest on their necks, simply 15:41 jojoa1997 we do mod more than them on irc 15:42 jojoa1997 it is like one big family here 15:42 marktraceur john_minetest: If you have some logs of that I would like to discuss them 15:43 RealBadAngel they already started to copy our solutions 15:43 marktraceur RealBadAngel: That's no reason to be rude to the Minecraft community on this network 15:43 sfan5 ^ 15:43 RealBadAngel am i rude? 15:44 jojoa1997 i am going to make a hunger games map and hopefully it will be on a server 15:44 marktraceur RealBadAngel: No, but there have been multiple instances of (at least perceived) rudeness on #minecraft by our community. 15:44 sfan5 no, but it sounds like you'll get rude because of that 15:45 RealBadAngel no way 15:45 RealBadAngel i like minecraft 15:45 RealBadAngel played it for almost a year 15:46 RealBadAngel but wanted "more" that mc wasnt able to offer 15:46 marktraceur RealBadAngel: This doesn't surprise me, but some people don't really care about that, they're looking to make a difference in this community, or maybe they're looking to troll someone 15:46 RealBadAngel thats why ive chosen minetest 15:46 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I specifically said to the mods over there that I would help them deal with these issues, *and* I changed the topic here to reflect that. 15:47 RealBadAngel nothin wrong with rpg elements, it went in the much worse direction 15:48 RealBadAngel mc is spinnin in the circle now 15:48 RealBadAngel not knowin what direction it shall choose 15:48 marktraceur OK, my point is, the people over at #minecraft aren't the people we need to be fighting. Just do good work here, in this community, and leave them alone. 15:49 RealBadAngel imho we shall not fight them 15:49 RealBadAngel sooner or later they gonna see we have much more to offer 15:49 RealBadAngel no need for flame wars 15:51 RealBadAngel and mt each day is getting better and better 15:51 RealBadAngel way faster mc did 15:52 marktraceur Mustek: To hear jojoa tell it he's been a bit tired this morning. Mind giving him a pass on this one? Not to worry, I have an eye on him. 15:52 harrison are you going to hike up your roots and skedaddle like a box turtle on nitrous oxide? 15:52 marktraceur (public message because you bloody well know you're on my list) 15:54 marktraceur harrison: What on earth does that mean? :) 15:55 harrison i don't know -- it comes from a dream right before i woke up 15:55 jojoa1997 anyone got any ideas for my hungergames map 15:55 jojoa1997 i got the spawn area done mostly 15:55 jojoa1997 gonna give pics soon 15:55 Mustek The one in our channel was more colorful, harrison 15:55 harrison one would think that nitrous oxide would make a turtle sluggish and unable to skedaddle 15:55 harrison such is dream logic 15:56 harrison i have confirmed that #minecraft is intolerant 15:56 harrison just now 15:57 marktraceur harrison: By what method? 15:57 harrison by being kicked out/. my crime? only that i loved too much 15:57 Mustek http://i.imgur.com/EqQF2py.png 15:57 harrison that too 15:58 marktraceur So....same deal? 15:58 harrison i have not built minetest since last year. i sincerely hope that the 2d rat has not been deprecated 15:58 harrison i loved the rat 15:58 Mustek no ban, just a kick 15:58 marktraceur Oh. K. 15:59 jojoa1997 here is what i have so far 15:59 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcQ 16:00 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcg 16:00 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vaDdlcw 16:02 Mustek hexchat 16:02 jojoa1997 me? 16:02 jojoa1997 oh nvm 16:04 Mustek and john, you have to ask skuld, not me 16:05 kaeza marktraceur, are you busy? I need some help with math. 16:06 marktraceur kaeza: I'm around, what do you need? 16:06 kaeza I'm trying to calculate the distance between two 3D points 16:06 kaeza here's my code so far: http://pastebin.com/R1RSY8hW 16:06 kaeza I believe there's something wrong there 16:07 kaeza the "damage" does not get calculated correctly 16:08 marktraceur Looks right to me 16:08 marktraceur kaeza: Maybe you should try some debug statements to see what it comes up with? 16:08 kaeza okay 16:10 marktraceur kaeza: Also, how do you know that it's wrong? 16:15 kaeza marktraceur, think I found the bug 16:15 kaeza it's doing the opposite things 16:15 kaeza the more the distance the more the damage 16:16 kaeza it should be less distance == more damage 16:16 kaeza I have fixed that 16:18 kaeza nice! works ok now! 16:18 kaeza dist: 4.0935563115241,damage: 1.8128873769518 16:18 kaeza dist: 3.3436000870188,damage: 3.3127998259625 16:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 16:20 sfan5 hello 16:22 mauvebic lol fancy that - 24 hours after switching to ubuntu, alan cox quit lol http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/01/24/1334234/alan-cox-update---leaves-linux-development-and-intel?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 16:23 markveidemanis Hiii! 16:25 harrison omg http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19981004&id=Xw8wAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6gMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3281,871019 16:34 kaeza lol throwing grenades at myself 16:39 * kaeza is now doing an RPG 16:41 marktraceur harrison: Well, that explains where the dream came from, I guess. 16:41 jojoa1997 kaeza can you send me the download to test the mod 16:41 kaeza jojoa1997, I need to tidy up some things first 16:41 kaeza posting in forums real soon 16:42 jojoa1997 ok 16:42 jojoa1997 ant dependencies? 16:42 markveidemanis Hello, jojoa1997 16:42 jojoa1997 hi 16:42 markveidemanis You no longer have spawn due to holes in the floor and chests being placed. 16:43 jojoa1997 what do you mean 16:43 kaeza my intention is not to depend on any external mods if possible 16:43 kaeza oh 16:43 jojoa1997 is this for marktwain server? 16:43 markveidemanis However, my final decision will depend on what you do with spawn in the future. 16:43 kaeza talking to markv? 16:44 markveidemanis kaeza: i would also like to test it. 16:44 markveidemanis :D 16:44 rubenwardy hi all 16:44 jojoa1997 markv what final decision 16:44 jojoa1997 hi 16:44 harrison marktraceur: so i must have seen the story in 1998 and it recrudesced ... 16:45 markveidemanis wether or not to grant you access to spawn area 16:45 harrison as a phase i spoke in a dream.... 16:45 Calinou lol fancy that - 24 hours after switching to ubuntu, alan cox quit lol http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/01/24/1334234/alan-cox-update---leaves-linux-development-and-intel?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 16:45 jojoa1997 how can we not give acces to spawn area? 16:45 markveidemanis E.g. lava pit, holes, trees, chests 16:45 Calinou did he search a post about himself qutting from the dash? 16:45 Calinou :-D 16:45 Calinou he should've used xubuntu 16:45 markveidemanis i do /list_areas then /remove_areas 16:45 mauvebic yeah and it gave him amazon results XD 16:46 jojoa1997 markv grant me the grant priv 16:47 mauvebic i can understand his frustration though - very few distros work out the box these days (regression) 16:47 markveidemanis i am compiling irrlicht atm 16:47 markveidemanis very slowly... 16:47 Calinou mauvebic: EVERYTHING SUCKS!!!!! 16:48 * Calinou jumps from a building and lands on mauvebic 16:48 harrison coxucker 16:48 mauvebic between 06-08 though it looked as if they were getting their shit together 16:49 mauvebic its still funny that it took 24 hours of unity to produce a ragequit lol 16:50 jojoa1997 markv grant me all 16:50 rubenwardy1 can anyone think of more questions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65522 16:52 harrison why does the porridgebird lay his egg in the air? 16:52 mauvebic tho i still find xfce on ubuntu is assrapingly slow 16:52 harrison use siduction instead 16:52 Calinou let's use the distros noone uses 16:52 Calinou then complain about lack of support 16:52 harrison http://siduction.org/ 16:53 Calinou yep. noone uses it. 16:53 mauvebic arch and slack have decent support and they havent follow the path of others 16:53 Calinou mauvebic: you can remove some startup daemons, it frees up like 50MB of RAM :-) and a few seconds of boot time 16:53 Calinou both are complicated to install and maintain 16:53 Calinou *buntus are not 16:53 harrison the true bleeding edge never heals. hell, it doesn't have time to CLOT 16:53 markveidemanis jojoa not funny! 16:53 kaeza just asking, but is NC appropriate on the forums? 16:54 sfan5 linux 3.4-rc4 is finally compiled 16:54 kaeza (license) 16:54 mauvebic a few years of trying to fix ubuntu and youll have more than enough skills to install and maintain arch/slack lol 16:54 rubenwardy1 kaeza: it is not "polite" 16:54 Calinou harrison: ubuntu might become rolling release, be happy :-D 16:54 kaeza ok 16:54 rubenwardy1 you can use it 16:54 mauvebic how can ubuntu be complicated to install? last i checked they removed most the options lol 16:54 Calinou mauvebic: I use xubuntu 12.10, didn't use any fix or hack to make it work 16:55 Calinou I'm using xorg-edgers PPA to use the 313.18 driver (faster and supports opengl 4.3), only "hack" I did to have latest driver, in addition to downloading some software from upstream 16:56 Calinou mauvebic: if I were canonical I'd make one distro instead of one distro + derivatives with their DEs, then you choose the DE and applications to install when installing... so that you're not forced to install apps you don't want ;-) 16:56 kaeza rubenwardy1, I was looking for a good explosion sound, but the one I like is released as CC-BY-NC 16:56 kaeza http://www.freesound.org/people/harpoyume/sounds/86026/ 16:56 Calinou kaeza: record yourself farting 16:56 rubenwardy1 that is fine 16:56 rubenwardy1 use it then :d 16:56 kaeza Calinou, that would be more appropriate for a nuke :D 16:56 markveidemanis haha 16:57 mauvebic anyways, how long has canonical got left? they tried support, they tried selling hardware, have they got to begging yet? 16:57 markveidemanis yop 16:57 Calinou yeah, when you download ubuntu (other *buntus are not affected) they ask for a donation 16:57 Calinou there is a small-ish button "continue without donating" 16:58 mauvebic final stage 16:58 Calinou but, WTF is wrong with making money? at least we have a popular distro with good hardware support and everything 16:58 mauvebic even millionaires get tired of throwing away money like piss in the wind 16:59 mauvebic nothing wrong with making money, i just dont see how you can make much with FLOSS 16:59 harrison Calinou: rolling release or not why would i use a distro named with a swahili word? 16:59 mauvebic if you sell support, you have financial incentive to write buggy software 16:59 Calinou harrison: because? :3 16:59 Calinou nothing wrong with making money, i just dont see how you can make much with FLOSS 16:59 Calinou so we should make all our software proprietary? 16:59 mauvebic selling hardware: hard to compete in that arena 17:00 Calinou 17:00 mauvebic no, show me a way to make money with FLOSS without resorting to begging, merchandising or having to sell support for overly (intentionally?) complicated software 17:01 Calinou F2P games, selling art for games, subscribing for some premium services such as cloud hosting, etc 17:01 Calinou :P 17:01 Calinou mauvebic: guess how id software makes money for their older games 17:01 Calinou the engine is open source but if you want to play the game, you have to buy the art 17:02 mauvebic thats basically what's happenning yeah lol 17:02 mauvebic youre not buying your software upfront but you're encouraged to pay for it every month with subscriptions 17:03 Calinou you still make money 17:03 mauvebic and by virtue of being FLOSS any problems you have are your own fault lol 17:04 kaeza It's funny how all the public domain (or WTFPL or CC0) stuff is pretty crappy 17:04 Calinou ...since always 17:04 Jordach hehehe 17:04 Calinou as soon as I see good art, I think it is non-free :-D 17:05 Calinou there are exceptions of course (eg. xonotic) but it's almost always the case 17:05 berome [17:50] can anyone think of more questions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65522 17:05 berome why we stay here ? 17:05 kaeza Calinou, srsly, do you think this is an "explosion"?? WTF is wrong with these guys?? 17:05 kaeza http://www.freesound.org/people/Cyberios/sounds/145788/ 17:07 mauvebic ideally if you need development capital you start out propietary and you opensource a year later 17:07 berome answers can be entertaining for visitors 17:08 Calinou inb4 someone makes "ask minetest" 17:12 Jordach Calinou, heh 17:13 * Calinou is backing up his home folder to an external HDD 17:13 Calinou thunar is awesome for doing this! must run it with gksudo :| 17:22 kaeza again, a question: is the BSD license accepted for mods in the forum? 17:23 mauvebic why wouldn't it? 17:23 kaeza just asking :) 17:23 Calinou yes, any license is accepted, even proprietary ones 17:23 Calinou proprietary is discouraged of course 17:24 mauvebic im glad ppl finally got over that lol 17:24 kaeza what I mean is that some people do not like things like CC-BY-NC 17:24 kaeza so BSD is OK then... 17:24 Calinou yes 17:25 mauvebic NC covers your ass though if someone tries to make a product out of something you didn't 100% make yourself 17:25 Calinou it only enforces attribution over two other small things 17:28 markveidemanis hi 17:28 kaeza hmm... I'm OK with BSD, but I don't understand that "All Rights Reserved" thing 17:30 rubenwardy1 it means all your rights to the mods are yours 17:30 markveidemanis hi 17:30 rubenwardy1 it means allthe rights to the mods are yours 17:31 markveidemanis hello 17:31 rubenwardy1 are there websites where you can get irrlicht maps from? 17:31 markveidemanis im bored 17:31 markveidemanis irrlivht maps? 17:31 rubenwardy1 *.irr 17:31 markveidemanis can you help me get irrlicht 17:32 rubenwardy1 are there websites where you can get irrlicht maps from? (*.irr or *.quake) 17:32 rubenwardy1 damn 17:32 rubenwardy1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=irrlicht 17:33 rubenwardy1 i know 17:33 rubenwardy1 coppercube is shit 17:33 markveidemanis anyone seen Oblivion1500? 17:36 Calinou *.quake? 17:36 Calinou people still give shitty extensions to *.bsp files? :( 17:36 rubenwardy1 quake maps 17:36 rubenwardy1 bsp? a ha 17:37 rubenwardy1 any good "bsp" editors (not QuArK) 17:37 Calinou netradiant 17:37 Calinou gtkradiant, but updated and more stable 17:49 markveidemanis i want to make a game like yogventures, i need a 3d engine any suggestions? 17:50 rubenwardy irrlicht 17:50 rubenwardy what is your experience level with game design, or any programming? 17:53 markveidemanis None 17:53 markveidemanis but i am good at design and making things look pretty 17:54 markveidemanis and *some* understanding in programming. 17:54 rubenwardy try Scratch 17:54 mauvebic excellent skills for gnome shell 17:54 rubenwardy (joking) 17:56 kaeza rubenwardy, you can try an old version of WorldCraft 17:57 kaeza (originally for Quake) 17:57 kaeza newer versions dropped support for quake BSP files 17:57 kaeza (they edit Half Life BSPs now) 17:58 markveidemanis any *sensible* suggestions? 17:59 rubenwardy Unity? 17:59 rubenwardy ( Unity3d, that is) 18:00 markveidemanis idk...i think i tried it 18:00 markveidemanis something for 256MB ram 18:00 markveidemanis and a really bad proccesor 18:00 kaeza hmm don't have any experience with unity 18:01 kaeza (besides playing Slender :D ) 18:01 rubenwardy no not unity 18:01 rubenwardy Unity 3D 18:01 rubenwardy game engine 18:01 kaeza yup 18:01 kaeza Unity 3D is used by Slender 18:01 markveidemanis for a raspberry pi 18:02 rubenwardy I was talking to markveidemanis 18:02 markveidemanis 3d and first person 18:02 kaeza IIRC 18:02 markveidemanis or too slow? 18:02 rubenwardy yu huh 18:02 kaeza oh sorry 18:02 rubenwardy depends on the content 18:02 rubenwardy it exports to linux 18:02 markveidemanis scoring system and win/lose conditions 18:02 rubenwardy ... 18:02 markveidemanis maybe some buttons and puzzle stuff 18:03 kaeza I have him in my ignore list, so thought you were talking to me :D 18:03 markveidemanis Old and pyramid/dwarf based 18:04 mauvebic i *had* him on ignore, dont know how i can see him now lol 18:04 markveidemanis its magic 18:05 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4557 <== ??? 18:06 kaeza I reserve my comments on that one ^^ 18:06 mauvebic i saw it lol 18:06 mauvebic like "wah wah why arent you as good as MC?" 18:07 mauvebic where in the mission statement does it state anyone is aiming for a perfect clone of MC? 18:07 kaeza nowhere 18:07 kaeza srsly, why don't these guys go play MC? I don't have anything against that game, but you can't come here and cry like that 18:08 mauvebic the crux yeah lol 18:08 mauvebic if you already own MC and prefer, then whats the point? 18:09 kaeza ...or maybe we're just feeding a troll :| 18:09 mauvebic thats why i didnt answer lol 18:09 rubenwardy he does play minetest though 18:10 mauvebic if people cant figure it out on their own nothing you say will help them better appreciate the facts 18:10 thexyz instead of replying in that thread Calinou could just say something like >fuck off 18:10 marktraceur mauvebic: The point is you can't own MC :) 18:10 Calinou thexyz: would work too :D 18:10 thexyz why does he want to "hear your opinion on these" instead of trying to make Minetest better? 18:11 thexyz that has no point 18:11 Calinou "trying to make minetest better" isn't always easy 18:11 Calinou not everyone is a programmer or an artist 18:12 mauvebic he doesnt want opinion just validation and rubbing it in a little lol 18:14 kaeza we should go there in a group and post as many "no" posts as possible before a COMBO BREAKER 18:14 kaeza troll the troll :D 18:15 kaeza :/ 18:17 STHGOM can anyone here give me fly on minetest.org? 18:18 markveidemanis omg i just started unity on lubuntu 18:18 kaeza depends 18:18 markveidemanis looks *similar* to ubuntu 18:18 kaeza which server? 18:18 mauvebic there are 20 servers on org arent there? 18:18 markveidemanis STHGOM: which port 18:18 kaeza 19 18:18 STHGOM port 30015 18:18 markveidemanis plz be 30010... 18:20 STHGOM zegaton 18:21 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30010,30015 18:21 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30010 is up (0.294ms) 18:21 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.285ms) 18:23 markveidemanis i want to use sudo to do the opposite of apt-get install 18:23 rubenwardy markveidemanis: http://www.unity3d.com/ 18:23 rubenwardy NOT UNITY 18:23 rubenwardy unity 3d 18:23 markveidemanis i need to get rid of unity now 18:23 rubenwardy free for non commercial use 18:24 markveidemanis i need to get rid of unity with sudo 18:24 sapier thats the good old "what is non commercial" problem again 18:24 rubenwardy actually 18:24 rubenwardy you can use it for commercial 18:24 sapier sudo "rm -rf /" 18:24 STHGOM whoever can please come to minetest.org port 30015 18:24 STHGOM over and out 18:24 sapier DON't execute last command ;-) 18:25 kaeza sapier: rm -fr /: command not found 18:25 rubenwardy "May be licensed and used by companies or incorporated entities that had a turnover in excess of US$100,000 in their last fiscal year." 18:25 rubenwardy sorry 18:25 rubenwardy "May not be licensed and used by companies or incorporated entities that had a turnover in excess of US$100,000 in their last fiscal year." 18:25 sapier :-) I hope no one executes that commands :-) 18:26 markveidemanis help me get rid of a program from terminal!!! 18:26 sapier you can't easyly remove unity from ubuntu 18:27 sapier it's nearly as complicated as removing internet explorer from winxp 18:27 markveidemanis lubuntu 18:27 kaeza sapier: fun fact: I once did a sudo rm -fr ${DIR}/* 18:27 kaeza guess what happens when DIR is empty :( 18:27 sapier with DIR not being set? 18:27 sapier something similar happened to me to ... I guess everyone does make this misstake at least once 18:28 kaeza I C-c'd, but everything up to and including /etc was gone :( 18:28 sfan5 it annoys me that "forum.minetest.net/admin/users.php?show_users=123.*.*.*" doesn't work 18:28 berome (john_minetest: [19:17] can anyone here give me fly on minetest.org? had you seen that ?) 18:28 FreeFull kaeza: alias rm = "rm -i" 18:30 kaeza FreeFull, that negates the use of -fr on the useful cases. 18:32 rubenwardy lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4400 18:32 sapier hmm ... there are two possible ways to solve this ... admit I'm wrong ... or pretend you don't exist ... I choose second option ;-) 18:33 sfan5 seems like jordan4ibanez got his facebook account disabled/removed 18:33 Jordach sfan5, huh? 18:34 sfan5 all his messages are flagges as spam and i can't reply to the conversation.. 18:34 sfan5 *flagged 18:35 sfan5 john_minetest: do you mean the minetest forum? 18:35 sapier banned for 3 days in facebook? 18:35 FreeFull john_minetest: What's fun with a cd and a spare machine is writing random junk to ram 18:35 mauvebic how do you get banned on facebook? 18:36 sapier I was wondering too mauvebic 18:36 mauvebic really? 18:36 mauvebic what did ragnar pull? 18:37 rubenwardy I am just saying that, that never happended 18:37 rubenwardy "release on the 13 jan" 18:37 mauvebic ragnar doesnt seem to be banned 18:37 sfan5 he should be 18:37 rubenwardy he is not now 18:38 sfan5 ... 18:38 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3352 18:38 mauvebic i know he's abit annoying but has he done anything serious? 18:38 Jordach sfan5, your usually not this active, what gives? 18:38 rubenwardy spamming, time wasteing, trolling 18:38 kaeza mauvebic, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830234 18:38 sfan5 Jordach: what do you mean? 18:38 FreeFull Who did he insult? 18:38 mauvebic i guess he or someone removed his sig :p 18:38 Jordach you've been talking recently and posting often 18:39 sfan5 i was playing minecraft a lot recntly until my computer broke... 18:39 sfan5 and i decided to be active in minetest community again 18:39 sfan5 mauvebic: i removed his sig 18:40 mauvebic what i found funny was his plans on competing with steam with apple-grade comissions lol 18:40 berome john_minetest: true ! 18:40 mauvebic found it http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830260 18:40 rubenwardy no, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-22#i_2830268 18:41 mauvebic i somewhat suspected he was immature, only kids make huge plans with few skills to back them up 18:41 Jordach mauvebic, heh 18:41 sfan5 where did ragnars ban go? 18:42 * Jordach doesnt know what to do with the shirt clip for the headset 18:42 sfan5 throw it out of the window? 18:42 Jordach nope. 18:42 Jordach ill probably clip it to my ear 18:43 mauvebic dunno who unbanned him but it wasnt me lol is cornernote still banned? (doubt he's coming back) 18:43 sfan5 mauvebic: you aren't a moderator on the forum, so you can't unban him 18:43 rubenwardy who is he? http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=93 18:43 mauvebic (that was the joke) 18:43 sfan5 cornernote is still banned 18:44 sfan5 rubenwardy: person celeron55 seems to know IRL 18:44 Jordach Vohveli, rubenwardy is asking who you are 18:44 rubenwardy thexyz is an admin? 18:44 sfan5 yes 18:45 rubenwardy oh yeah, he hosts the forum 18:45 * Jordach wants to see more moderators that are 24/7 18:45 mauvebic rba and olcoder if they have the time 18:46 rubenwardy pilzadam would be good 18:46 PilzAdam hm? 18:46 mauvebic isnnt he already? 18:46 rubenwardy no 18:46 sfan5 we could distribute moderators over different timezones 18:46 sfan5 no 18:46 mauvebic then theyd all have to stick to that schedule 18:46 rubenwardy or Jordach could be 18:47 rubenwardy not nesseciarly 18:47 Jordach VanessaE pretty much covers GMT-6 18:47 Exio http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3 18:47 Exio the best account 4ever 18:47 Jordach thats not the test user: http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2 18:47 Jordach this is. 18:47 kaeza lol 18:48 kaeza ... who is the first one then? 18:48 Jordach id=1 does not exist 18:48 kaeza thought user #1 was c55... 18:48 Jordach i tested 18:48 Jordach kaeza, id=2 is the first user 18:49 kaeza ah 18:49 sfan5 i just found a bug in punbb: i can't see the ip of celeron55 on his user site bbecause he has a higher rank than me, but i can access the ip stats for him 18:49 sfan5 *because 18:52 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010 18:52 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30010 is up (0.283ms) 18:55 Jordach john_minetest, yup, people get tired 18:55 Jordach ...and bored 18:56 mauvebic http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2004/images/golden_honey_spam_large.jpg 18:56 Vohveli Jordach: rubenwardy will need to clarify the question 18:58 rubenwardy I have never seen you on the forums before (cause you have 0 posts) 18:59 rubenwardy I was wondering the reason that you are a moderator 19:00 Jordach mauvebic, more like this: http://i.imgur.com/8i8WgOM.jpg 19:00 kaeza is the smoke thing when you destroy a mob from MOBF or is it from default/builtin? 19:01 Jordach kaeza, builtin 19:01 kaeza ah thanks 19:01 kaeza I'm new with entities and things like that 19:01 mauvebic I was wondering the reason that you are a moderator 19:01 Vohveli rubenwardy: so that I can move stuff to where it belongs, I seem to recall 19:01 mauvebic secret super powers http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/shower-mask.jpeg?w=300&h=221 19:02 rubenwardy are you a friend of celeron55? 19:02 mauvebic re jordach: lol 19:02 mauvebic spamserver 19:02 Jordach :P 19:02 Jordach sometimes im a cunt, today is one of those days 19:02 Jordach >:) 19:03 mauvebic im such a dick: when they bury me, i want to be upside down in the casket so everyone can kiss my ass XD 19:03 Jordach mauvebic, nono, fill your body with popcorn kernels and be cremated 19:03 Jordach :D 19:03 kaeza wow c55 reached (and passed) his 300th post. Congrats! :P 19:04 Jordach kaeza, i broke 1000 around march 2011 19:04 Jordach s/2011/2012 19:04 mauvebic well the embalming process does involve shoving loads of cotton up one's ass (mod idea?) so might as well be popcorn kernels 19:04 * john_minetest has got 117 posts 19:04 Jordach i broke 2000 about june 2012 19:04 Jordach me and sfan5 raced to 2000 19:04 * kaeza is about to reach 500 ^_^ 19:04 Jordach (or was it 1000? i never remember) 19:05 Vohveli rubenwardy: something like that 19:05 rubenwardy ok 19:05 Jordach how many pages of posts do i have? http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=332 19:05 sfan5 Jordach: we raced to 1000 19:05 Jordach sfan5, much better, i remember now, and you won :P 19:06 kaeza and jojoa just passed 1000 in just a month?? O.o 19:06 mauvebic lol 19:06 mauvebic but he talks to himself alot 19:06 mauvebic (hasn't noticed the edit button) 19:07 hmmmm btw sfan5 19:07 hmmmm did you see the final fix for mingw 19:07 sfan5 yes 19:07 hmmmm okay 19:07 kaeza 99% of his replies are "how do I do this thing that's VERY CLEARLY WRITTEN ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF THE MANUAL?" and the other 1% is "me too!" 19:08 * Jordach wonders whether to work out how to make the map size set to long int map_size_motherfuckers; 19:08 mauvebic or map_size_yomama would be acceptable 19:08 Jordach ah shizzle 19:09 Jordach opened hexchat again :P 19:09 iqualfragile or map_size_B16B00B5 to do it microsoft-style 19:09 Jordach iqualfragile, ha 19:10 Jordach or while we are at the jokes: im_tired_of_these_muthafuckin_snakes_on_this_mutherfuckin_map 19:10 kaeza what was the original point in making the map size/pos/whatever 16 bits wide? 19:10 kaeza If I may ask 19:10 Jordach dunno 19:10 hmmmm what should've it been? 19:10 Jordach long int 19:10 hmmmm lol. too big. 19:11 Jordach at least maps will never run out 19:11 mauvebic infinininite! 19:11 hmmmm you'll never run out with the current maximum 19:11 kaeza Jordach, http://trinit.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/vista.jpg 19:11 PilzAdam you have to walk 2.7 days to reach the limit of the map 19:12 PilzAdam and you can dig not digable blocks in 1.6 days 19:12 mauvebic less then that in a hover car :/ 19:12 rubenwardy real or ingame days? 19:12 PilzAdam real 19:12 berome with or without fly ? 19:12 PilzAdam walking 19:12 Jordach bullshit, i covered 9000 by walking in 0.3.2 19:12 Jordach thats one hour 19:13 Jordach bbl xonotic 19:13 sokomine some people for unknown reasons did build a city at 30k on redcrabs server. if the limit would have been higher they'd probably have gone there as well. it's a pity there is no convenient way to visit them :-( 19:13 rubenwardy kaeza: lol 19:13 mauvebic client-side mods for blueprinting and shit would be cool 19:14 kaeza :P 19:15 rubenwardy what would a mod that adds client-side shit be called, mauvebic? 19:16 kaeza fecal mod 19:16 PilzAdam Jordach, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=50463#p50463 19:16 sokomine blueprinting? what kind of blueprinting? 19:20 mauvebic didnt the santa mod handle that? lol 19:20 mauvebic client side mods for saving buildings you find on other servers 19:21 mauvebic which could lead to a client side editor for converting nodes and rotating the blueplrints 19:21 rubenwardy like world edit, but with no place capability 19:21 rubenwardy //p set 19:21 rubenwardy //save 19:21 mauvebic client side means the server doesn;t need to have it 19:22 mauvebic so yeah you couldnt set or remove nodes 19:23 mauvebic avatars would typically fall to the client side too 19:23 rubenwardy minetest.register_temp_node 19:24 mauvebic besides you can set markets without setting nodes 19:27 markveidemanis how do i control another persons computer without them installing any software? 19:27 rubenwardy ask chuck norris 19:27 mauvebic Bones: how can you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing? 19:28 PilzAdam markveidemanis, the echo command is really helpful; read the manpage 19:29 sfan5 test test 19:29 markveidemanis echo? 19:29 PilzAdam no, its "Minetest" 19:29 markveidemanis in termonal? 19:29 PilzAdam markveidemanis, yes 19:30 mauvebic if you have to resort to hacking peoples computers to get them to play your servers, you might want to rethink the strategy 19:30 markveidemanis it just copies what i say 19:30 markveidemanis no, i need to assist someone in getting minetest 19:30 rubenwardy (7:27:51 PM) rubenwardy: ask chuck norris 19:30 mauvebic cant you explain it to them? 19:31 PilzAdam markveidemanis, what OS does the target computer have? 19:31 PilzAdam s/have/run 19:31 markveidemanis Windows 7 19:31 PilzAdam then its easy 19:31 markveidemanis but i have lubuntu 19:33 rubenwardy (7:30:41 PM) rubenwardy: (7:27:51 PM) rubenwardy: ask chuck norris 19:33 PilzAdam cant you just tell them the link and then doubleclick minetest.exe? 19:34 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4245 19:35 sokomine mauvebic: ah. yes. that would be nice. i thought about something similar...a mod that allows you to export your own buildings in your protected area by sending them via email... 19:35 thexyz markveidemanis: http://www.teamviewer.com/ 19:36 mauvebic sokomine i wonder if bots can post on pastebin 19:37 sokomine hm. pastebin...or maybe an extra site for such things? but that would require a webserver on the server 19:37 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4558 19:37 rubenwardy funny if nobody answered... 19:37 sokomine pastebin did work for me without javascript or such. so it ought to be usable for a bot as well i think. but email might work likewise (if the address is known) 19:38 mauvebic well blueprints are already saved to file you could use lua or python to post it on the net 19:39 sokomine i wonder if it could be done locally 19:39 sokomine hm. maybe easier on the server side...else how to select a part on the client side? 19:40 markveidemanis Look... 19:40 sokomine something else: it annoys me that there appears to be no chatlog. i'd like to have one where i could look up what was typed while i was building. the log found after pressing f10 is of limited help because it too often crashes the client - with everything said lost 19:41 markveidemanis I am sorry for spammming i will refrain from doing so in the future. 19:41 mauvebic i wish there was a filesize limit on the debug log i often forget to delete it 19:41 sfan5 !sfu landmine 19:41 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'list' objects (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in ) 19:42 rubenwardy if think the forum should have something like, if the last poster is the current user, and the last posts time was less than one hour ago, it cancels the posting 19:42 thexyz wtf is sfu? 19:42 PilzAdam sfan5, shes unhappy, leave her alone for a while 19:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload forumutils 19:43 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-01-24 19:44:58) 19:43 sfan5 !sfu landmine 19:43 thexyz PilzAdam: that's not Minetest-tan 19:43 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'users' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/forumutils.py", line 62, in search_forumuser) 19:43 mauvebic not cancel, just automatically append 19:43 thexyz btw, could you *please* test this non-working shit somewhere else, sfan5? ^^ 19:43 sfan5 yes 19:44 sfan5 the bot already quit 19:44 thexyz that'd be really great 19:44 markveidemanis test on #mtmt 19:46 mauvebic http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/976/lumbergh.jpg 19:47 sfan5 markveidemanis: no 19:47 markveidemanis ok 19:53 webdesigner97 hi 19:53 rubenwardy hi 19:53 webdesigner97 does this work? I'm currently using Thunderbird to chat here 19:53 webdesigner97 at least it seems so :D 19:54 webdesigner97 ok, bye then :) 19:54 markveidemanis hi 19:55 sfan5 color 19:55 markveidemanis no 19:55 sfan5 !sfu ACDC 19:55 MinetestBot ACDC Banned 42 posts, registered on 2012-05-12 19:55 markveidemanis minetest tan is bot 19:55 sfan5 :( no fancy colors 19:56 markveidemanis sfu? 19:56 markveidemanis !stfu :D 19:56 sfan5 sfu -> searchforumuser 19:57 markveidemanis ok 19:57 Jordach !sfu Jordach 19:57 markveidemanis !sfu MooMooMoo 19:57 Jordach aw man 19:57 * Jordach missed the leaving line 19:58 markveidemanis sfan... 19:59 sfan5 markveidemanis: the bot is gone 19:59 markveidemanis it seems you are testing a bot here 19:59 markveidemanis Were, then 19:59 sfan5 i won't tell you 19:59 markveidemanis ? 19:59 Jordach i won't tell you -- sfan5 is a magician# 20:00 sfan5 MinetestBot> Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 20:00 sfan5 lol 20:00 markveidemanis artur99 ilyus01 <== recognise anyone? 20:01 Doc22 umm 20:01 Doc22 they are on minetest.org:30004 20:01 PilzAdam PilzAdam Member 1,393 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 20:01 Doc22 i recognise em.. 20:01 markveidemanis Nop 20:01 Doc22 huh? 20:01 Doc22 i saw em today 20:01 markveidemanis lookie here http://minetest.org/data/worldlogs/marktwain-log.txt 20:01 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd91KZyptlQ 20:01 markveidemanis near end 20:02 Doc22 yeah they didnt have interact... 20:02 harrison confiers have NEEDLES 20:03 Doc22 what am i looking for 20:03 Doc22 i see that they tried all that stuff without interact 20:04 markveidemanis want them to come back on... 20:04 Doc22 ohhhhh 20:04 Doc22 okay 20:04 Doc22 a bit ago 20:04 Doc22 i saw artur trying to join 20:04 Doc22 but he left almost immediately 20:04 Doc22 he was on for a while 20:04 Doc22 and he has a house 20:05 Doc22 he'll be back i think... 20:05 markveidemanis r u sure he is not TheArtur 20:05 markveidemanis He grief... 20:05 Doc22 he was artur99 20:06 markveidemanis How do i disconnect someone from the server? 20:06 Doc22 he didnt grief when i was on earlier 20:06 Doc22 i think /kick (name) 20:06 markveidemanis not in irc... 20:06 Doc22 When i was on he didnt seem like griefer 20:06 Doc22 ill spy on him if you want 20:06 marktraceur markveidemanis: Tell them that they can get a special item if they press alt-f4? 20:07 Doc22 lol 20:07 markveidemanis they afk 20:07 marktraceur Well, then they aren't doing much damage. 20:07 Doc22 hmmm... 20:07 * FreeFull presses alt-f4. Nothing happens. 20:07 markveidemanis what DOES that do...? 20:07 Doc22 in the game... 20:07 marktraceur markveidemanis: Pretty sure /ban will do it 20:07 markveidemanis no, tried 20:07 Doc22 yeah if he causes any trouble? 20:07 Doc22 oh. 20:07 markveidemanis not disconnected 20:08 Doc22 you are talking about 30010? 20:08 Doc22 or 30004 20:08 marktraceur markveidemanis: Best bet is to revoke privileges, then, and they can just rail against their mute impotent selves until they give up 20:08 Doc22 i agree 20:08 markveidemanis ok 20:08 markveidemanis 30010 20:08 Doc22 what did he do? 20:08 Doc22 grief-wise 20:08 markveidemanis griefed skycity 20:08 markveidemanis D: 20:09 Doc22 D: 20:09 Doc22 okay then... 20:09 * Doc22 wonders when i will get moderator on 30004... 20:09 thexyz tell them to press alt+sysrq+b then 20:09 Doc22 lol 20:10 Doc22 (windows) system failure 20:10 Doc22 (windows) hard drive has been combusted 20:10 FreeFull My laptop doesn't have sysrq written on the prt sc key 20:10 Doc22 (windows) hard-drive-wipe.exe took 793ms 20:10 Doc22 (windows) please reinstall your operating system 20:11 Doc22 (windows) if you have oem, please repurchase it 20:11 RealBadAngel ive updated moretrees palm model (very latest build needed for it) 20:11 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/coconuts.png 20:11 RealBadAngel palms are now generated with coconuts 20:12 RealBadAngel also thx to the engine changes pines are lookin now way different and better 20:12 FreeFull I wonder if you could make palm leaves look better somehow 20:13 marktraceur Probably, with nodeboxes 20:13 kaeza Doc22, is arthur causing troubles on 30004? 20:13 Doc22 no 20:13 harrison the other children were cruel to me 20:13 harrison at the orphanarium 20:13 Doc22 i wouldnt have known he was a griefer 20:14 marktraceur moretrees:palm_frond_curved_down, moretrees:palm_frond_curved_left, moretrees:palm_frond_curved_right or something 20:15 RealBadAngel marktraceur, there randomly twisted already 20:15 Doc22 cool trees realbadangel 20:15 marktraceur They're* 20:15 Doc22 what are coconuts used for 20:15 RealBadAngel feed the beast 20:15 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I mean, make nodeboxes that are thinner fronds, so you don't need to make them so huge to achieve the effect 20:15 Doc22 okay 20:16 thexyz love reworked github search feature 20:16 thexyz https://github.com/search?p=1&q=-----BEGIN+RSA+PRIVATE+KEY-----&ref=searchresults&type=Code 20:16 kaeza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZusRnxOqPY 20:16 RealBadAngel marktraceur, im not any good with nodeboxes 20:16 kaeza RealBadAngel, need help with that? 20:17 Doc22 oh cool i want to learn more about nodeboxes... 20:17 RealBadAngel you can try to make it look better 20:17 Doc22 where does one learn about such things. 20:17 Doc22 ? 20:18 RealBadAngel reading other folks mods, search the forums? 20:18 Doc22 ok ill look through 20:18 RealBadAngel theres a topic bout basic nodeboxes models 20:18 Doc22 probably that computers mod is good for what I need to learn? eahh whatever 20:18 Doc22 and yeah i read that 20:18 Doc22 ill just experiment sometime 20:19 Doc22 i think i got collision detection down for my game (woooot) 20:19 Doc22 cheeers 20:19 Doc22 just need to add the logic 20:19 kaeza Doc22, computers has a helper function to design nodeboxes based on a texture 20:19 Doc22 okay 20:19 Doc22 ill look through it 20:19 kaeza see computers.pixelnodebox() 20:20 kaeza -s 20:20 Doc22 okay 20:20 Doc22 also im working on some more music so whoever wants to test it... 20:20 Doc22 ill pm link to those who are interested 20:21 rubenwardy bye all 20:21 Doc22 bye 20:21 Doc22 aww too slow 20:22 Doc22 :/ nobody interested.... 20:22 Doc22 oh well 20:31 Doc22 lol 20:31 Doc22 kaeza you double logger you 20:32 * sokomine grabs a few trees from realbadangel and runs away with them 20:36 Doc22 lol 20:37 kaeza wat 20:37 Jordach OH SHIT 20:37 Jordach i just found a bug 20:37 Jordach and this is horrible 20:38 * markveidemanis have ideas for trees mod 20:38 markveidemanis make trees from the twilight forest mod underground 20:38 Jordach PilzAdam, this is partly your fault 20:39 Jordach for the love of god: dont right click while weilding anything that uses facedir like furnaces 20:39 Jordach IT DELETES LOCKED CHESTS 20:39 Jordach since the right click change, it only happens now 20:40 PilzAdam Jordach, nope, just tested 20:40 kaeza john_minetest, lol 20:40 Jordach PilzAdam, head to lpgc 20:41 Jordach also: it happens on 0.4.4-minetest-d1-minetest.ru 20:41 * markveidemanis shoots a UFO outside 20:50 kaeza inb4 !up mt.org 30010 20:51 markveidemanis i need a teleporter mainframe like on gameboom server... 20:51 markveidemanis but i cant build 20:51 markveidemanis help... 20:51 kaeza guys what do you think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZusRnxOqPY&feature=youtu.be 20:55 jojoa1997_ kaeza when will you post the gun mod 20:55 kaeza john_minetest, I think I'll disable the smoke 20:56 kaeza it has a tendency to leave entities lying everywhere 20:56 kaeza and I suspect this would lag servers horribly 20:57 jojoa1997_ kaeza when will you post the gun mod 20:57 markveidemanis jojoa: 20:57 kaeza I'm pushing to github 20:57 kaeza and then I'll make a post in the forums 20:58 markveidemanis do /nickserv ghost jojoa1997 20:58 jojoa1997_ markv: what 20:58 markveidemanis that will disconnect jojoa1997 20:58 markveidemanis Yop 20:59 markveidemanis so can you help me build a mainframe for teleporters, jojoa? 20:59 jojoa1997 sorry i am making a hunger games map 20:59 Taoki Jordach: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/112 Just fixed what you reported to me a month ago, about UV mapping on the legs being broken 20:59 jojoa1997 want to test kaeza's gun mod to see if i will add it 20:59 kaeza jojoa1997, there are still missing textures and sound 21:00 jojoa1997 oh 21:00 jojoa1997 i strill want to try it 21:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/palmHD.png 21:02 RealBadAngel name says it all ;) 21:03 jojoa1997 we can set time by saying 6am instead of 6000 21:03 PilzAdam gtg; bye 21:03 jojoa1997 cool 21:03 jojoa1997 oh and nice tree 21:03 Jordach i have the video evidence of said bug 21:04 Jordach (well the right click error) 21:04 jojoa1997 what bug? 21:04 Jordach its the repeat right click function 21:04 Jordach i'll explain more tomorrow 21:04 jojoa1997 so i like using that. it is better than keeping on clicking the right button 21:06 jojoa1997 kaeza is it synced? 21:09 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, UI when used settime buttons post such message 21:10 jojoa1997 oh i forgot about those 21:10 jojoa1997 anyone: what is the configure on the singleplayer tab in the main menu for 21:11 jojoa1997 brb 21:16 jojoa1997 hi all 21:20 KikaRz hi 21:20 Taoki Is it normal that transparent water stops being transparent sometimes? 21:20 KikaRz i'm again on floor 21:20 KikaRz people, my mod isnt working 21:20 KikaRz you can discover what's the problem? 21:20 KikaRz glad. 21:21 KikaRz I can compress it 21:21 KikaRz and then, send to someone to check it 21:21 KikaRz I can't make /giveme test:block 21:22 kaeza ok textures are done 21:22 kaeza now I need to make the sounds... 21:22 kaeza Taoki, happens sometimes 21:22 KikaRz Someone? 21:22 Taoki kaeza: Any way to fix it? 21:23 Taoki It didn't happen in the past 21:23 KikaRz this is being like #AoS on Quakenet... 21:23 KikaRz no helps. 21:23 kaeza not sure, I don't touch C++ code 21:23 KikaRz VanessaE, are you there, sweetie? 21:24 kaeza maybe something related to your gfx card config 21:25 KikaRz Someone? 21:26 marktraceur KikaRz: Can you post your code somewhere? 21:26 KikaRz ok 21:26 marktraceur Preferably not in the channel? 21:26 markveidemanis pastebin 21:26 KikaRz query? 21:26 KikaRz code is not too big. 21:26 marktraceur Doesn't matter 21:26 KikaRz just register node 21:26 marktraceur Get into a good habit now 21:26 KikaRz ... i can't access pastebin 21:26 KikaRz neither github 21:26 markveidemanis minetest.register_node{ 21:26 KikaRz System is updating 21:27 marktraceur KikaRz: Then do this after the system is updated 21:27 markveidemanis paste line by line :D 21:27 marktraceur NO. 21:27 KikaRz just 4 lines. 21:28 marktraceur KikaRz: And you have a depends.txt? 21:28 KikaRz No... 21:28 KikaRz ok. depends.txt 21:28 KikaRz default 21:28 KikaRz '-' 21:28 KikaRz lets try? 21:28 marktraceur Yeah. 21:28 KikaRz what i put on depends.txt ? 21:28 KikaRz just default ? 21:29 berome default = { } 21:29 KikaRz berome, what i put in {} ? 21:29 kaeza wut 21:29 kaeza KikaRz, just "default" 21:29 kaeza no "= { }" 21:30 KikaRz Ok 21:30 KikaRz let me test 21:30 berome it is this syntax in minetest 0.4 default mod 21:30 berome after I don't know . 21:30 marktraceur berome: In depends.txt? Really? 21:31 markveidemanis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh 21:31 KikaRz lol 21:31 markveidemanis {INTERRUPTION} 21:31 marktraceur markveidemanis: What the fuck, dude? 21:31 markveidemanis could not resist... 21:31 KikaRz mod "firstmoddd" has unsatisfied dependencies: ""default"" 21:31 KikaRz i guess it's just default 21:31 KikaRz without "" 21:31 berome no marktraceur : you are true 21:32 KikaRz now working 21:32 marktraceur Yay. 21:32 KikaRz error cannot give unknown item 21:32 KikaRz ... 21:32 KikaRz i hate this 21:33 markveidemanis why not JUST GIVE UNKNOWN ITEM? 21:33 kaeza yay got fragged by my own grenade lol 21:33 KikaRz ... 21:33 markveidemanis send mod... 21:33 KikaRz i typed: 21:33 KikaRz ./giveme firstmoddd:test 21:33 KikaRz thats the node 21:33 KikaRz are you really serious? 21:34 KikaRz WHY FUCKING STUPID MOD ITS IN BLANK??? 21:34 KikaRz DJ(=Q"#UR/=(#Q$RY"#Q($&!"()$&!"/$RW" 21:34 KikaRz well... in the old folder, it isnt 21:34 KikaRz Linux trolled me 21:35 KikaRz cool node... 21:35 KikaRz problem: unbreakable 21:37 markveidemanis add a group... 21:37 KikaRz what group? 21:37 markveidemanis groups = cracky, and all that 21:37 KikaRz just cracky? 21:37 markveidemanis oddly_breakable_by_hand 21:37 KikaRz where is the level of crackyness? 21:37 KikaRz e_e' 21:38 KikaRz i want to be breakable with a stone pickaxe 21:38 KikaRz not only with hand 21:38 markveidemanis then stonelike 21:38 KikaRz well 21:38 markveidemanis drawtype 21:38 markveidemanis hold on 21:38 KikaRz going to host the pic 21:38 KikaRz on the imgur 21:38 KikaRz e_e' 21:39 markveidemanis groups = {cracky=3}, 21:39 markveidemanis i think 21:40 markveidemanis !g spammy baker 21:40 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://bakernow.com/content/denver-loyalty-program-saving-baker-residents-money 21:40 markveidemanis i like it! 21:40 * markveidemanis gives thumbs up 21:40 KikaRz you will see... my fantastic invention 21:40 marktraceur markveidemanis: Care to be more off-topic? 21:40 markveidemanis ... 21:41 markveidemanis ok 21:41 KikaRz Use Cyan red glasses to see that in 6D 21:41 KikaRz u_u' 21:41 KikaRz Uploading 21:41 markveidemanis i can be more off-topic... 21:41 markveidemanis umm...StarWars! 21:41 marktraceur Good luck with that 21:41 KikaRz you ready? 21:42 KikaRz GET READY... 21:42 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/Ql0NGWB.png 21:42 KikaRz pretty? 21:42 KikaRz :D 21:42 KikaRz now im stuck on this 21:42 KikaRz i cant break it 21:42 KikaRz e_e' 21:43 markveidemanis COUGH** Sure, pretty 21:43 markveidemanis but make less...circular 21:43 KikaRz e_e' 21:43 KikaRz it'll be more circular... 21:43 KikaRz so... 21:43 KikaRz not my problem 21:43 KikaRz i have new models 21:43 KikaRz for technic 21:44 KikaRz it should be like that? 21:44 KikaRz wait 21:44 KikaRz groups={level=1} 21:44 KikaRz ups 21:44 KikaRz groups={level=1, cracky=3} 21:45 KikaRz ok 21:45 KikaRz it is 21:45 markveidemanis groups = {...} 21:45 KikaRz what are groups? 21:45 markveidemanis good question... 21:45 KikaRz how i make a name to my block? 21:46 RealBadAngel next one, http://realbadangel.pl/oakHD.png 21:46 KikaRz epic 21:46 KikaRz crunchbang updating 21:47 KikaRz 791 MB for dist-upgrade 21:51 KikaRz listening to music 21:51 KikaRz on the floor 21:52 KikaRz well 21:52 KikaRz i'm on the floor... isnt it? 21:52 KikaRz so... i'll listen to on the floor. Jennifer Lopez. 21:52 kaeza ding dong: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-firearms 21:53 kaeza KikaRz, wanna play AOS on MT? ^ 21:53 KikaRz ? 21:53 KikaRz AOS on mt? 21:54 markveidemanis YES!!! 21:54 KikaRz ... 21:54 KikaRz sucks. 21:54 markveidemanis wait... 21:54 KikaRz it isnt AoS anymore. 21:54 markveidemanis Ace Of Spades? 21:54 KikaRz it is Build and shoot 21:55 kaeza aaand posted :) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65900#p65900 21:55 KikaRz No Screenshots 21:55 kaeza whatchacallit, there are now firearms in MT 21:55 KikaRz and my feedback : Sucks. 21:55 KikaRz Real AoS don't have Bazooka 21:55 kaeza thanks! you too :P 21:55 KikaRz neither grenade launcher 21:56 marktraceur nor* 21:56 KikaRz so.... it sucks 21:56 marktraceur KikaRz: In English, the first term of a negative list is prefaced with "neither" and the rest with "nor" 21:56 KikaRz nor? 21:56 marktraceur KikaRz: So it's "neither X nor Y nor Z" 21:57 KikaRz ok 21:57 marktraceur KikaRz: I'm aware that, at least in French, it's all the same word--"ni X ni Y ni Z" 21:57 KikaRz lol. 21:57 KikaRz Portugal: nem X nem Y nem Z 21:57 KikaRz in Spanish: ni X ni Y ni Z 21:57 kaeza same in spanish "ni X ni Y ni Z" 21:57 kaeza yup 21:57 kaeza ninja'd 21:58 marktraceur "siesta, little sleep? same in espanish!" --Fawlty Towers 21:59 mauvebic lol 21:59 mauvebic dont mention the war 21:59 marktraceur mauvebic: I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it 21:59 mauvebic lol "once" 22:00 marktraceur "You started it!" "No we didn't!" "Yes you did, you invaded Poland!" 22:01 marktraceur Ah, great show. 22:01 mauvebic Oooooh i knooooow 22:01 mauvebic "whats wrong with the speaking clock? my wife isn't talking to it is she?" 22:02 marktraceur Don't be alarmed, it's just my wife laughing. Sounds like a seal being machine-gunned to death. 22:03 mauvebic you are men, orally men? 22:03 marktraceur Ha. 22:03 mauvebic or lol 22:04 mauvebic 'when i asked you to build me a wall, i thought rather than dumping the bricks in a pile you might have found time to cement them together?' 22:04 marktraceur In the traditional manner! :) 22:04 mauvebic forgot that bit lol 22:04 marktraceur "Mr. and Mrs. Twitchin, this is the Colonel, Colonel, this is...." (Colonel twitches) "Oh, you've met have you?" 22:05 mauvebic or the one day he's a in a good mood (because one of the guests died) lol 22:05 marktraceur "What's the point in being alive?" "I don't know, we're stuck with it I suppose" 22:06 mauvebic there's a kipper sticking out of your jumper lol 22:06 * marktraceur had better stop this before it gets ridiculous :) 22:07 mauvebic i have to admit frasier is just about the only american sitcom i watch, the rest is even older lol 22:07 kaeza I'm getting bored of everyone b*tching about everything: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4561 22:08 mauvebic meh, fiddling with little things always generates controversy lol 22:09 mauvebic i have to admit tho, the signatures are pretty friggin pale, we dont have those old-ass CRT's here 22:09 RealBadAngel there will be same with trees "omg theyre bigger, i have to spend more time to cut it. im fuckin lazy.. lets make a poll to revert to old trees." 22:10 kaeza exactly :) 22:10 kaeza I like those trees 22:10 kaeza bigger trees == more wood :D 22:11 mauvebic well the key is to preserve or increase customization options, not changes things with no way back 22:11 kaeza RealBadAngel, just tell them to install moreores, make a golden axe, be less lazy, and f*ck themselves 22:12 RealBadAngel propably this will end with an option to world gen 22:12 mauvebic i figured the new mapgen would handle it 22:12 mauvebic v7? 22:12 RealBadAngel "Generate trees instead of sticks" Yes/No 22:12 markveidemanis no 22:13 mauvebic trees cant spawn independently of their associated biomes 22:13 RealBadAngel not yet, not yet ;) 22:13 mauvebic and you know, theres room for default trees, smaller trees, the more the merrier when it comes to vegetation 22:14 RealBadAngel each biome will define kinds of trees that can spawn in it 22:14 mauvebic for the longest time we just had plain trees and flowers lol 22:14 RealBadAngel for some default tree lovers theres similar tree model, beech 22:15 RealBadAngel not much bigger 2-3 nodes 22:15 mauvebic in any case i want to see the default tree split from the mapgen since they dont spawn properly on nullmaps 22:15 sapier is vanessaes problem with trees killing minetest performance already fixed? 22:15 RealBadAngel theres an option in config to disable default trees 22:16 RealBadAngel sapier, generation speeded up a lot recently 22:16 RealBadAngel whats left is not our fault, emerge thread has to be fixed 22:16 KikaRz see you in few minutes 22:16 KikaRz going to reboot 22:16 sapier I mean problem discussed yesterday 22:16 sapier trees haven too much vertices effectivly killing minetest graphics core 22:17 RealBadAngel ah this 22:17 RealBadAngel i got the engine fix for this ready 22:17 sapier great :-) 22:17 mauvebic i though emergethread was fixed 22:17 RealBadAngel need to test it a bit more before pulling 22:17 sapier emerge thread isn't fixed it's a workaround that makes problem less often occur 22:18 RealBadAngel mauvebic, theres a patch out there that starts to fix the problem, but just starts 22:18 mauvebic i noticed yesterday the map loads faster but the inventory now takes a few minutes 22:18 sapier but the more features are added the bigger the chance it'll reoccur 22:18 mauvebic meh, feature freeze, fix all the bugs, call it 0.5 22:19 RealBadAngel call 911 to get them all fixed first ;) 22:19 sapier fix all the bugs? emerge thread fix most likely will touch about any core system to be completely fixed 22:20 mauvebic well its just gonna be more work as more features keep being added no? 22:20 sapier and not even the collision handling bugfix was accepted by celeron ... hope he's going to read the detailed explanation I added .... 22:21 mauvebic death by a thousand paper cuts lol 22:21 sapier yes at some point rewriting is only way to fix it ... still i believe minetest hasn't reached this point 22:22 mauvebic i have this bug on 0.4 stable where nodeboxes aren't selectable at certain facedirs 22:22 mauvebic nodebox textures still flicker yaw change 22:23 sapier player and entitys should be merged (at least their representation) 22:24 mauvebic mutinode and worldedit still have/need fix light commands 22:25 sapier they don't need a fix they need a complete rewrite of node change mechanisms in core 22:25 mauvebic and -d1 is just slow lol 22:26 jojoa1997 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 22:26 sapier jeijas recent patches improve situation but only fix one of two major problems 22:27 mauvebic though im in no immediate hurry to upgrade so i dont care if its bug fixes or new features/bugs 22:28 kaeza jojoa1997, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65908#p65908 22:31 jojoa1997 kaeza, i suggest making shotguns and hanguns have the close range fix 22:32 jojoa1997 the explosives have their own consequences 22:32 jojoa1997 and make a rifle that has the bug so it can only be used at long range 22:32 jojoa1997 also adding a bow would be nice 22:33 * john_minetest is waiting for Zeg9. 22:33 kaeza patience little grasshopper 22:34 lauxrena hello earthlings 22:34 kaeza sorry, I'm from the moon 22:34 kaeza :) 22:35 lauxrena hello moonite?? 22:35 kaeza better :) 22:35 lauxrena :D 22:36 jojoa1997 kaeza also if possible make the bullets entities(if you havent done so) and if the explosives connect with eachother then they explode 22:36 lauxrena awesome 22:36 kaeza jojoa1997, can you open up a fast server to test it? 22:36 kaeza jojoa1997, areyoukiddingme.jpg 22:37 marktraceur Minetest: PARTICLE PHYSICS 22:37 jojoa1997 i cant open up servers cause i havent forwarded a port. i did test it using 2 clients and a local server though 22:37 * marktraceur builds LHC in minetest 22:38 jojoa1997 kaeza, maybe make the bullets cut leaves or damage one block 22:38 kaeza jojoa1997, O RLY? 22:38 kaeza wanna test at doing that? 22:38 jojoa1997 are you being sarcastic? 22:38 jojoa1997 and at what 22:38 marktraceur Actually, it might be cool to damage a node with bullets 22:39 marktraceur Depending on the groups it has, you could break it from afar 22:39 kaeza jojoa1997, have you actually read the "TO-DO" section on the forum post? 22:39 mauvebic marktraceur plasma rifles lol 22:39 jojoa1997 no i mean for the shotgun and stuff 22:40 marktraceur mauvebic: That could just transform stuff into lava :) 22:40 jojoa1997 i know about explosives but having a shotgun break glass would be awsome 22:40 mauvebic naw well i wrote that a month ago 22:40 mauvebic not gonna change it now 22:40 jojoa1997 pair it up with the drop mod and there is realisticism 22:40 mauvebic https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/war-mod 22:40 marktraceur REALISTICISM. 22:40 marktraceur jojoa1997, everybody. 22:40 marktraceur Tip your waitresses. 22:41 sapier everyone is talking about adding features but have you looked at buglist? am i the only one concerned about those things? 22:41 jojoa1997 marktraceur i tip you 22:41 mauvebic sapier me lol 22:41 kaeza marktraceur, I'm working on it, but it's a bit hard to make it compatible with the protection mods out there 22:41 kaeza mauvebic, BFG9000 :) 22:41 kaeza wow 22:41 kaeza new word 22:41 marktraceur sapier: No, you're not 22:41 marktraceur sapier: Want to triage bugs this weekend? 22:42 marktraceur Actually, question for the channel: Should we triage bugs this weekend? 22:42 telek What does 'run_tests(): 1 / 12 tests failed.' mean? I'd been getting it on and off a few months back, but now it's doing it all the time. 22:42 hmmmm yeah i dunno.... 22:43 hmmmm just do --disable-unittests 22:43 lauxrena triaging bugs is allways good (IMO) 22:43 kaeza telek, using latest minetest AND minetest_game? 22:43 sapier I've already fixed some bugs I need feedback if it works or not! And maybe adding it would be great to as continuing to find other bugs is difficult without having old ones fixed. 22:43 hmmmm telek, why are you running as debug? 22:43 mauvebic it is getting more difficult to track down the cause of new bugs lol 22:43 KikaRz Hi. 22:43 KikaRz We can make one node in 15x15 and other in 30x30 ? 22:44 KikaRz or 32x32 ? 22:44 telek KikaRz: Power of 2. 22:44 KikaRz telex, <3 22:44 telek Maybe indexed from 0 (Hence 15/31) 22:44 KikaRz we can make it like that? 22:44 KikaRz mauvebic? 22:44 telek Nodes aren't currently done like that? 22:45 KikaRz well 22:45 KikaRz the image. 22:45 * telek assumed the default texture size was aligned with potential subdivisions of nodes. 22:45 KikaRz son 22:46 KikaRz lay on your bed, and sleep just a bit. 22:46 telek >.< 22:46 mauvebic what was the question? 22:46 KikaRz We can make one node (for mods) on 15x15 and another in 32x32 ? 22:46 telek hmmmm: Because I was getting random segfaults before. 22:47 telek kaeza: I'll double check. 22:47 mauvebic texture size? 22:47 KikaRz yea 22:47 kaeza http://software.wackonet.net/tgc/tgc.html 22:47 mauvebic if you use atlas best to stick to 16 22:47 KikaRz i'll make in 16x16 22:47 mauvebic if you have atlas disabled then any square size should be good 22:47 KikaRz i dont have atlas enabled... 22:47 KikaRz so... 22:48 mauvebic whatever looks good then 22:48 KikaRz but other people that will use this mod must have it on 22:48 KikaRz *could 22:48 mauvebic i start on the assumption that im the only one playing my mods and if anyone complains i fix it lo; 22:50 KikaRz hey 22:50 KikaRz what is the node extension? 22:50 KikaRz Png? 22:51 KikaRz mauvebic 22:51 KikaRz hello? somebody? 22:52 sapier what's a node extension? 22:52 KikaRz ... 22:52 KikaRz file image extension 22:52 KikaRz ... 22:52 sapier texture extension is png 22:52 mauvebic sorry was making coffee (cold pills knocking the wind out of me lol) 22:52 KikaRz ok 22:52 KikaRz bye 22:52 KikaRz tomorrow: RAINING TEXTURES FOR MY MOD! 22:52 KikaRz :D 22:52 KikaRz i love texture making 22:53 KikaRz specially when its colored. 22:53 sapier I need a clownfish mod and texture ;-) 22:53 sapier mod == model ;-) 22:53 mauvebic i saw the minecraft equivalent of rain - very crappé 22:53 telek kaeza: Looks like my minetest_game wasn't updating properly. Unfortunately now it's throwing errors because my worldmods are broken :D 22:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/birch_spruceHD.png 22:54 RealBadAngel 2 more trees textured 22:55 mauvebic omg i remember when there were birch growing_trees, damn things grew through buildings lol 22:56 sapier :-) that was fixed long time ago ;-) 22:57 mauvebic oh i know i dont even remember when exactly lol 22:57 mauvebic lost the screens on this comp (p4) 22:58 mauvebic well, i hope no one's planning any trips to north korea lol 23:01 Dogzilla131 Hi kaeza 23:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/beechHD.png 23:03 RealBadAngel this is replacement for old default tree 23:05 mauvebic moderator plz: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65922#p65922 inaccesible file 23:08 telek Attempt to index global default a nil value? 23:08 mauvebic ? 23:09 mauvebic you forgot to add default to depends.txt prolly 23:09 telek Ahh ok. 23:09 mauvebic and while not having a depends.txt or not declaring default still works on linux, it does not on win builds :-) 23:12 Kacey hello 23:15 kaeza Hey! why didn't I ask this guy for tips/suggestions? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65911#p65911 23:15 kaeza 23:15 telek kaeza: I think I botched my git update of minetest_game. Appears to have started now. Thanks kaeza 23:15 kaeza ok np :) 23:16 mauvebic i doubt likwid is anyone new 23:17 blah_craft_ hello 23:17 kaeza mauvebic, what do you mean? 23:17 kaeza hey 23:18 mauvebic no one can be that stupid, he's trolling 23:18 mauvebic and it wouldnt surprise me to learn he's the troll we all know lol 23:18 telek Just out of curiousity, how is the Media handled? With more than a few mods involving textures it seems to hang pretty hard at the media loading message when connecting to servers. And it seems to get exponentially longer the more texture related mods you have installed. 23:19 kaeza mauvebic, I've started to think he's jojo in disguise lol 23:20 mauvebic i really dont like multis ive had to deal with mentally ill people in the past and i can see them coming a mile away lol 23:20 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/sequoiaHD.png 23:20 kaeza not a single "well done" post. Just smartasses that think the engine can do marvels 23:20 mauvebic telek all media is hosted serverside and downloaded by the client 23:21 mauvebic the more you add the slower it gets 23:21 mauvebic and if your hosting locally on residential DSL, better be a good connection 23:21 telek mauvebic: I thought it did checksums against the client-side cache, is that wrong? 23:21 telek Actually same switch, and it's still slow. 23:21 mauvebic yeah but i think it starts over when you add new stuff 23:21 mauvebic checksum wouldnt be the same would it? 23:22 bas080 May i request topic move. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2784 23:22 telek mauvebic: For any unmodified file it would be. 23:23 telek assuming per-file checksums. 23:23 mauvebic kaeza> not a single "well done" post. 23:23 mauvebic thats cuz the minute you finish something people are already asking for the next thing lol 23:23 telek Yeah, like where are my speed improvements!!!!! 23:24 telek I've only been waiting like since scripting went in! :D 23:24 mauvebic i mean its good to talk about these things, but theres a line between constructive and plain bitchin 23:24 blah_craft_ I like minetest better than minecraft - well done 23:24 kaeza telek whether the textures are cached or not, the server still has to communicate checksums with the client 23:25 telek kaeza: Yeah. But I've got like a 3-5 minute wait on connects now. 23:25 kaeza mauvebic, agreed 23:25 kaeza telek, texture loading 23:25 telek Any idea what the checksum format is? 23:25 telek kaeza: On a 100 megabit connection? 23:25 kaeza telek, a net connection has NOTHING to do with loading textures :) 23:26 mauvebic uhm 23:26 telek Oh you mean the clientside loading of textures? 23:26 kaeza yup 23:26 mauvebic most residential DSL's have a nice DL rate but a shitty UL rate so it does make a difference :p 23:26 telek mauvebic: This is on the LAN 23:26 mauvebic LAN? no probs then 23:27 telek Lots of probs, they just appear to be client/server, rather than connectivity related :D 23:27 kaeza telek, try unchecking "Preload Media" (or smth like that) on the config tab 23:27 mauvebic aparently us oldies are perverts ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-brenoff/breaking-up-with-minecraf_b_1940252.html 23:28 mauvebic lol 23:28 mauvebic "Sure, Minecraft monsters come out at night, but those weren't the ones I was worried about. I worried about the perverts who pose as other 11-year-old boys and want to play Minecraft with my son" 23:28 kaeza yeah 23:28 telek Y'know the minetest modding community should band together and make a minetest distro with some sort of shinies to lure in customers. 23:29 kaeza and I love the proverbial "he wasn't socializing with other kids" 23:29 telek Then you could all quit your day jobs when 7.7 million people pay for it :D 23:29 kaeza WTF? 23:29 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/PXyaA#0 23:29 RealBadAngel made album with screenshots 23:29 Kacey anyone have the link to worldeditgui? 23:29 mauvebic if anything id love an 18/mature board 23:29 kaeza !g lmgtfy 23:29 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://lmgtfy.com/ 23:30 kaeza Kacey, ^ 23:30 telek Wow that is one crackpot mom. 23:30 telek Seriously, hasn't she taught her son to pretend he *IS* the 30 year old pervert, in order to keep perverts from hitting on him? 23:30 mauvebic cuz ianno, playing return to castle wolfenstein is so much healthier for kids lol 23:30 mauvebic ill admit to shaving off a few years, but not that many lol 23:31 telek mauvebic: Sure it is. You gotta learn how to take care of your enemies somewhere :D 23:31 kaeza umm... I don't dare ask how old mauvebic is 23:31 Kacey anyone? 23:31 telek He's graduated from the greybeard to the whitebeard phase :D 23:31 mauvebic :P 23:31 telek Kacey: Can't say that I do. 23:32 mauvebic i wont give any hints on age but ill say ive had over 30 jobs 23:32 blah_craft_ has anyone experienced a bug where you're jumping and you place a block right where you're about to land and you end up "inside" it ? 23:32 Kacey yep 23:32 Kacey all the time 23:32 kaeza blah_craft_, yup 23:32 blah_craft_ ok cool - i figured a bug like that wouldn't go unnoticed for long 23:33 blah_craft_ and I'm sure the devs are already on it 23:33 Kacey it cannot be fixed 23:33 blah_craft_ that's not a good attitude! lol 23:34 blah_craft_ anything is possible with time and money 23:34 mauvebic emphasis on the money 23:34 blah_craft_ hehe 23:34 kaeza wat http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4564 23:35 mauvebic but even if you paid celeron he;'s got school and other things going on, so its also a matter of time 23:35 * kaeza facepalms 23:36 Kacey VanessaE: are you around? 23:36 Kacey that bug cannot be fixed 23:36 mauvebic then put a bounty on it 23:36 Kacey because it is a placement issue 23:36 mauvebic node placement prediction or ? 23:37 Kacey the player is where the block is going to go 23:37 blah_craft_ that's what I would think 23:37 mauvebic heck sometimes i place a block, and it replaces the block behind or underneath it (wtf) lol 23:37 kaeza mauvebic, should I return the favor >:D http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4565 23:37 mauvebic what do you want to post there? 23:37 telek mauvebic: Did you check out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-brenoff/? After reading the bio and the topmost headline I winced. 23:38 mauvebic oh, she's from california, that explains it (just joking marktraceur :P) 23:38 telek Certainly explains why the kid would need a digital escape :D 23:38 * telek is too. 23:39 mauvebic i know that type of mother well lol 23:39 telek Thankfully my part of the state is more of the neglectful parent than the overbearing one :D 23:39 mauvebic my father was absent and for a while in a sanitarium, so she' definately went into overdrive parenting lol 23:39 telek Not to say we don't have both, just not as bad as the wealthier parts of the state. 23:40 mauvebic while michael jackson was busy becoming a white woman, my father was become a latin woman lol 23:40 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4297 interesting 23:41 mauvebic thats cool but i dont like the little lines 23:41 Kacey ? 23:42 mauvebic could nodeboxes be adapted to draw slopes and curves? 23:42 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm from Minnesota, and enjoy Cali-bashing as much as anyone :) 23:42 mauvebic without resorting to a billion microcuboids 23:42 mauvebic oh sweet 23:43 marktraceur And I can do it really well because of field study! 23:43 telek mauvebic: As long as they fit inside the nodebox and don't need to stack in a non-square fashion? 23:44 * telek had been considering something like that for a while. 23:44 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 23:44 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.314ms) 23:44 mauvebic im an equal opportunity kind of guy - i dislike both quebeckers and the ROC lol 23:46 mauvebic quebeckers because they're crooked and the ROC because theyre getting to be radical 23:47 mauvebic i miss the peacemaking, take-no sides canada lol 23:53 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSfWcW8cYA 23:56 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaDdubQ/screenshot_1861917251.png the roof i just made 23:59 blah_craft_ it's because the US gvmt are bullies and have forced their way into a lot of things in CA