Time Nick Message 00:21 mekkakupa Just found mindtest, freak'n awesome! 00:21 mekkakupa er.. minetest 00:21 marktraceur mekkakupa: Welcome! 00:21 Uberi hey mekkakupa 00:22 marktraceur mekkakupa: We're glad to hear it :) 00:23 berome mekkakupa: ...it will be ever better with your touch :-) 00:23 marktraceur berome: Thaaaat was a bit creepy :) 00:24 mekkakupa Agreed. 00:24 mekkakupa ;-) 00:26 iqualfragile mekkakupa: try dwarf fortress, its way better 00:28 berome ouch, sorry for that, I return learn english :-/ 00:29 * marktraceur disagrees with iqualfragile 00:29 NakedFury why not try TestFortress 00:30 marktraceur Dorf Fortress may be *good*, but it's....not better 00:30 NakedFury the ultimate fussion between minetest and df 00:30 marktraceur Quit fussion 00:30 NakedFury the entry level for DF is high 00:30 mekkakupa oh wow, the debian testing version is crazy out of date 00:31 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/galery.png from left to right: oak, sequoia,palm,birch, spruce 00:31 marktraceur mekkakupa: Yeah, better to build it yourself or at least download a less-official package 00:32 NakedFury RealBadAngel: http://terrafirmacraft.com/wiki/Trees 00:34 mekkakupa marktraceur: This is probably a dumb question, but do I just download everything in the minetest folder from github? 00:34 marktraceur mekkakupa: Yep! You can get an archive of it or a git clone and build from that. 00:34 Uberi mekkakupa: what OS? 00:35 mekkakupa Uberi: Debian. Just want to make sure I pull down the right folder before I compile. I think I saw the requirements in the radme 00:35 Menche you need both minetest and minetest_game 00:35 marktraceur mekkakupa: You should definitely think about using git to get it...that way you can build any version of the game 00:36 Menche it is much easier to update using git 00:36 RealBadAngel NakedFury, thx, that can give me colour ideas for rest of the trees 00:36 NakedFury no problem 00:37 NakedFury and tree ideas too 00:37 Uberi hey RealBadAngel, that looks nice, are they biome specific? 00:37 RealBadAngel form tree idea to the model is loong way ;) 00:38 RealBadAngel Uberi, im not takin care now bout biomes, im just creating tree models and all necesary nodes for them 00:38 RealBadAngel its kinda tree framework 00:39 RealBadAngel somebody else shall take them and use 00:39 Uberi ah, I see 00:41 RealBadAngel but answering to your question, trees shall grow in their own specific biomes 00:41 Uberi awesome, this adds some much needed biome diversity 00:42 RealBadAngel it would be stupid to find coconut palm in the snowy mountain biome ;) 00:42 NakedFury first we need the biomes 00:42 mekkakupa Just curious, which distros do you guys run? 00:42 NakedFury I run the windows seven distro 00:42 RealBadAngel lol 00:43 RealBadAngel im on debian squeeze 00:43 marktraceur mekkakupa: I run Ubuntu 12.04, Debian Squeeze, and various versions of Trisquel on different computers 00:43 mekkakupa NakedFury: Never heard of it.. is it like Mint? 00:43 RealBadAngel rotfl 00:44 NakedFury havent seen mint but you can compare it to microsofts Windows OS 00:46 iqualfragile night 00:47 iqualfragile & read awsomeness: http://dfstories.com/the-hamlet-of-tyranny/ 00:48 Oblivion1500 m m ""# ""# 00:48 Oblivion1500 # # mmm # # mmm 00:48 Oblivion1500 #mmmm# #" # # # #" "# 00:48 Oblivion1500 # # #"""" # # # # 00:48 Oblivion1500 # # "#mm" "mm "mm "#m#" 00:49 Oblivion1500 ok that doesent look like i expected it to look 00:49 marktraceur Oblivion1500: It would be great if you could not do that in channel 00:49 Oblivion1500 ok 00:52 babyface1031 hi 00:53 Oblivion1500 hey 00:55 * marktraceur waves 00:59 babyface1031 what can you do with conifer leaves 01:00 marktraceur It depends on what kind of conifer it is 01:00 marktraceur White pine needles make a fine tea 01:01 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/dawn.png 01:01 babyface1031 i mean i cant make rope from them i cant use them in a furnace as fuel what good are they 01:02 marktraceur Oh, in minetest. 01:02 babyface1031 yes 01:04 NakedFury lensflare! 01:07 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/red_cliffs_wallpaper.png 01:07 RealBadAngel this was better one 01:09 NakedFury is that you working on shadows and sun glare? 01:11 babyface1031 hi RealBadAngel 01:12 RealBadAngel hi 01:13 babyface1031 on OldCoder server i cnat get the electric furnace to work 01:13 RealBadAngel NakedFury, that is im workin with gimp, and made just new wallpaper for myself ;) 01:13 NakedFury awwww 01:13 NakedFury you broke my heart 01:13 RealBadAngel hehe 01:14 TheZenKitteh finally im back.. 3 hours later than I cared for ~_~ 01:16 NakedFury welcome back 01:16 TheZenKitteh ty naked fury 01:16 TheZenKitteh I did get an idea for the bash installer while away 01:17 OldCoder Hi 01:17 TheZenKitteh it would be trivial to make an alternate that can use free hosting like omploader for mod storage 01:17 TheZenKitteh hey oldcoder 01:17 OldCoder babyface1031, I know little of furnaces... talk to the authors and let me know 01:17 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Hi! 01:17 babyface1031 i am OldCoder 01:21 kaeza RealBadAngel, new Wallpaper? 01:22 kaeza have been using the red cliffs since you released it ^_^ 01:23 kaeza hey TheZenKitteh 01:23 TheZenKitteh hey kaeza 01:23 RealBadAngel i made just another one with sequoias 01:23 kaeza nice 01:27 kizeren I can no longer make wood planks from conifer trees? 01:28 RealBadAngel kizeren, hold on, planks etc are gonna be aviable soon 01:28 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/galery.png 01:29 kizeren Ahh ok. Took a break from AngleFury world and come back with messed up graphics, wood planks missing and holes in the side of chests..... 01:29 kizeren Oo those look awesome. 01:30 RealBadAngel holes in chests are for transport tubes 01:31 kizeren I thought so. 01:31 kizeren Last I looked there was only an injecter. can chests recieve now? 01:32 RealBadAngel some1 else took VanessaE and mine code and made it work 01:32 VanessaE yup 01:32 VanessaE and I integrated it into pipeworks. 01:32 VanessaE current git HEAD contains flowing water and item transport 01:32 VanessaE Nore/Novatux is the person's name btw 01:32 kizeren I wonder if OldCoder has it on his servers yet. 01:33 VanessaE dunno 01:33 OldCoder kizeren, have which? 01:33 OldCoder I updated all of the VanessaE mods last night 01:33 OldCoder We have moretrees now for example 01:33 kizeren port 30000 01:33 OldCoder Pipe Works etc. updated 01:33 OldCoder Check and see 01:33 kizeren I think I am the only one playing on that port :) 01:33 VanessaE that answers that :) 01:34 NakedFury right now 01:34 NakedFury thats the port I play on 01:34 kizeren I know....but you been down in the dungeon for weeks it seems. 01:35 NakedFury came to the surface for a construction 01:35 kizeren I will have to go explore and see what your doing then :) 01:37 kizeren So .... I will be using technic tubes instead of pipeworks? or anyone point me in the right direction for this item transport. 01:38 VanessaE they are pipeworks tubes in both cases. 01:38 VanessaE (technic depends on pipeworks to get tubes) 01:39 kizeren ahh okay 01:49 kizeren Once you have ingots you can not turn them back into dust can you? 01:49 NakedFury dont think so. lump to dust to ingot 01:49 RealBadAngel no you cant 01:50 RealBadAngel only lumps can be grinded down to dusts 01:50 kizeren ok 01:50 kizeren A mining I shall go then. 01:51 RealBadAngel if ingots were grindeable down to dusts, the system would break and allow to make infinite ammounts of ingots 01:51 kizeren True 02:03 babyface1031 is there anything you can do with conifer leaves 02:04 TheZenKitteh finally 02:05 TheZenKitteh bash mod installer is ready for release... and has the beginning of a repo hosted from the github account itself 02:05 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-bashmodinstaller 02:05 kaeza babyface1031, nothing :/ 02:05 kaeza stash them away 02:06 babyface1031 ok 02:06 TheZenKitteh this setup of this test repo also makes it so the mod authors can get their mods in the repo pretty easy if they use git already 02:06 Dogzilla131 Hi kaeza 02:07 TheZenKitteh brb I've worked up a hunger 02:09 kaeza hey Dogzilla131 02:12 kaeza hey Kacey 02:13 * Kacey is ranting about the stupid people in the workd 02:13 Kacey world 02:14 Kacey What is happening to our world? People are acting like total idiots. Honestly. They are acting as though walking into a school and shooting everyone (sandy hook elementary never forget) is cool. It's not. To be honest, I think doing that kind of stuff is sutpid. lms if you agree and pass this on. with enough people, we can make real change in the world. 02:14 Kacey i posted that on facebook 02:15 Menche who's acting like it's cool? 02:15 Menche apparently some people deny that it happened 02:16 Kacey do you live in the us menche? 02:16 Menche yes. CA 02:16 Kacey the sandy hook school shooting 02:16 Kacey the guy posted on facebook after that that doing that was awesome 02:17 Menche ...how is murdering 20 young kids awesome 02:17 NakedFury why dont we ever get one of this insane guys to do that in a prison? 02:17 NakedFury its always against kids 02:17 Kacey and then james holmes (i hate to be in the same state as the aurora shooting) also posted the same thing on facebook 02:18 Dogzilla131 kaeza: check the top buttons 02:18 kaeza what? 02:18 hmmmm james holmes posted 'that was awesome' on facebook in response to the school shooting? 02:18 Menche and so now everyone goes crazy about gun control because of a few sick idiots 02:18 hmmmm citation needed 02:19 Dogzilla131 Nevermind 02:19 kaeza Dogzilla131, O.o 02:19 Kacey james holmes posted about the aurora theater shooting 02:19 TheZenKitteh nakedfury because kids don't put up any fights.. unlike prisoners. also prisoners don't have access to guns. also schools are totally unarmed to defend themselves in any way from the crazies 02:20 Dogzilla131 kaeza:im having problems in the craft in the mod 02:20 hmmmm james holmes didn't have a facebook account. 02:21 TheZenKitteh if every teacher was required to train in proper firearm handling and was "requested" to conceal carry at school.. I bet yer arse there would be no school shootings within 5 years 02:21 kaeza Dogzilla131, what mod? 02:21 Menche in the aurora theater there was one "bad guy" and what, twenty+ "good guys". the one "bad guy" won because he was armed and nobody else was 02:21 Dogzilla131 Dog Blocks :D 02:22 kaeza Dogzilla131, what problems 02:22 kaeza ? 02:22 NakedFury this kind of mental morons should be killed 02:22 Dogzilla131 what blocks to use, and in which positions? 02:22 Kacey and then kids in schools are dropping out and contributing to the crimes 02:23 TheZenKitteh of course the gun debate is all over the place and technically this isn't the place to discuss it. however I will say my opinion is people in general should get mental assessments before handgun purchases and more people need to be armed and trained in self defense. the reason being criminals care not for the law so no law will stop them. only other solution is arm the potential victims and train them so they won't go accidentall 02:23 kaeza NakedFury, death is not enough punishment for these guys 02:24 Menche TheZenKitteh: i agree completely 02:24 NakedFury kaeza: unless the goverment is willing to torture them for a set amount of time prior to putting them down like rabid animals just shipping them to prison is not enough 02:24 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/morewood.png 02:24 NakedFury loading image 02:25 RealBadAngel almost all types of leaves, bark and wood 02:25 Kacey but then we pay more taxes to keep them in prison. tax money that could go to schools and educate the kids 02:25 TheZenKitteh many prisoners nakedfury hate any other prisoners who committed crimes against children.. and guards typically look the other way when said prisoners are getting their arse handed to them by the other prisoners 02:25 kaeza NakedFury, they should be left with his hands tied before all the families of those kids 02:25 kaeza s/they/he/ 02:25 Kacey and then we lose money and people commit crimes formoney 02:25 Menche apparently holme's cellmates looked down on him and he had to be separated from them for safety 02:25 Kacey it is a vicious cycle 02:25 NakedFury TheZenKitteh: not enough. you end up paying for their stay in prison. even if he did that I dont want him to just go get some from behind. 02:26 NakedFury RealbadAngel that looks yummy 02:26 Menche wow the two conversations on the channel contrast quite sharply 02:26 NakedFury gonna be hard to find so many tree textures from other texture packs but worth it 02:27 TheZenKitteh anyway no disrespect intended but this convo isn't suited for #minetest I would think (unsure since no firm topic set).. how about we talk about minetest 02:27 TheZenKitteh lol 02:27 NakedFury yeah well gonna stop that now. I dont like prison for life, if you get life then they need to kill them there and then. 02:27 * Kacey is going to go punch a wall 02:27 NakedFury and yes thats all 02:28 TheZenKitteh lol I could go on for hours about how messed up this country (the usa) is.. but some people have it worse in some other countres 02:28 TheZenKitteh countries* 02:28 Menche CA where I live is one of the more messed up states 02:28 Kacey CO is screwed up also 02:29 kaeza Menche, most of us try to focus in other things when this happens. It's not that we don't care; it's that if we truly manifested our feelings with words, freenode would prolly just shut down the channel from all the profanity and death threats 02:29 TheZenKitteh would anyone on linux be willing to test the new bash mod installer I did and tell me if it works properly and if documentation is "enough"? I have confirmed it works on puppy precise and ubuntu precise 02:29 Menche apparently north dakota is the best. gets kinda cold there though 02:29 kaeza TheZenKitteh, sure 02:29 TheZenKitteh kaeza yes.. if I said what I felt on the topics of crazies and guns and laws and so forth.. id be banned for life 02:29 TheZenKitteh lol 02:30 TheZenKitteh menche I've lived in california for a few years in placer county 02:30 TheZenKitteh now back on east coast 02:30 TheZenKitteh where I was at I didn't think it was overly bad.. just expensive 02:31 TheZenKitteh real estate in california is insane and so is rental properties 02:31 Menche ya, its expensive here 02:31 Menche and the majority of CA is politically opposite me 02:32 TheZenKitteh I've been tempted to visit alaska 02:32 TheZenKitteh lived in texas about a year as well 02:32 TheZenKitteh I've lived in 3 states within a 4 year period 02:32 TheZenKitteh lol 02:32 Menche been in california my entire life 02:33 TheZenKitteh now im not sure where you are but if southern california I've heard a lot of bad things about southern california 02:33 kaeza TheZenKitteh, link to your bash mod manager? 02:33 Menche wow this thread has gone offtopic 02:33 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-bashmodinstaller 02:34 TheZenKitteh the only mods available with it right now is in the Repo folder. also you need to edit the script to point to where you want the mods installed 02:34 TheZenKitteh life has no topic 02:34 TheZenKitteh lol 02:38 kaeza TheZenKitteh, looks good, but you don't need to include 7z along with the package. You should also consult the 7z license to see if this is possible. 02:39 TheZenKitteh 7z included for 7zip archive support 02:39 kaeza the 7z package is readily available on most distros anyway 02:39 TheZenKitteh not by default kaeza 02:39 TheZenKitteh lol 02:39 TheZenKitteh zip tar.gz and tar.bz2 are fine and all but I feel 7z is superior when it comes to finished archive size in many cases 02:39 TheZenKitteh I have considered a 7z'less fork 02:39 Menche what mods use 7zip compression anyway? most are zip and a few tar.gz 02:40 TheZenKitteh there's a packmod script to easily pack mods 02:40 Menche i think lzma or xz has the best compression ratio 02:40 TheZenKitteh if I remember right 7z uses lzma 02:40 kaeza TheZenKitteh, there's a .tar.lzma format 02:41 kaeza that is more standard on Linux IIRC 02:41 Menche my archiver has an option for .7zip and a separate one for .tar.lzma 02:41 kaeza anyway, it's a good job there 02:42 kaeza I'll proceed to test it now 02:42 kaeza there's always time for improvements :) 02:42 TheZenKitteh lol yea improvements can be done im very sure 02:43 TheZenKitteh when I get the time I want to compress various mods to different archive formats and see which is better overall 02:44 kaeza TheZenKitteh, .tar.bz2 02:44 kaeza the bulk of mods are the textures 02:44 kaeza and those are already compressed anyway 02:45 * Kacey is back 02:45 Kacey my knuckles hurt now... 02:45 Menche i think lzma is the best. but most mods are so small it shouldn't matter much 02:46 TheZenKitteh wb kacey 02:46 Kacey ty 02:46 kaeza TheZenKitteh, also, if you just use the installed tar + bzip2 programs, your script will run successfully undef MinGW32 02:46 kaeza under* 02:46 TheZenKitteh minGW32? 02:47 kaeza Minimalist GNU for Windows 02:47 kaeza is a sort of compilation of unix programs targeted at Windows platforms 02:48 * OldCoder is updating stuff again tonight 02:48 OldCoder Kacey, TheZenKitteh That is how I build Windows MT 02:48 TheZenKitteh lol forum polls added an extra ? at end of question 02:50 TheZenKitteh one of the main reasons I chose 7z is in case at some future time a windows installer comes into being 02:50 TheZenKitteh tar.bz2 still will need 7zip to extract on windows 02:50 Kacey i must go night all 02:50 TheZenKitteh lol didn't even give time for anyone to wish them goodnight 02:51 kaeza lol 02:53 TheZenKitteh mint is so sluggish after using puppy for a few days 02:53 * NekoGloop puts kittens on all ten heads 02:53 NekoGloop kittens > puppies 02:53 * TheZenKitteh covers nekogloop in catnip 02:53 * NekoGloop om nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom 02:55 TheZenKitteh lol I might need to hold off on new minetest related projects for a short while.. I've managed to take on 10 total projects... not very active projects but still 02:55 kaeza hey NekoGloop :3 02:56 NekoGloop However stupid the name of the parody sounds, "Like an enderman" is actually a good mc parody song of gangnam style 02:56 TheZenKitteh doesn't anyone find it odd how a song from a basically unknown person becomes most watched youtube video ever within half a year? 02:57 TheZenKitteh I watched part of it and found it to not be that worthy imo 02:57 TheZenKitteh I've seen better videos, heard better music 02:57 kaeza TheZenKitteh, apparently, the guy is very famous on his country (sorry, can't recall where he's from) 02:57 NekoGloop Well personally better than "Minecraft Style" by CaptainSparklez 02:57 NakedFury South Korea 02:57 NekoGloop I like the rest of sparklez's music videos, except that one. 02:58 kaeza thanks Fury 02:58 NakedFury he was a famouse pop singer or some other genre 02:58 NekoGloop s/Fury/Furry/ 02:58 kaeza Naked Furry? 02:58 NakedFury gangnam style just went viral world wide 02:58 kaeza lol 02:58 NakedFury his dancing helped too 02:59 NekoGloop Who, the enderman. 03:00 NekoGloop kaeza: EsperNet #minecraft topic joke. 03:01 kaeza :? 03:01 NekoGloop For a while it contained the phrase "NakedFurry is best furry" 03:01 kaeza oh 03:01 * TheZenKitteh not fond of minecraft for many reasons that can be left unsaid 03:01 kaeza oh lol 03:02 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: Only thing i hate is endermen and creepers. 03:02 NekoGloop Auto-griefing == dumbass idea 03:02 TheZenKitteh only things I liked were those nekogloop.. and weather 03:02 TheZenKitteh I wish minetest had rain 03:02 NakedFury java? 03:02 TheZenKitteh lol 03:03 TheZenKitteh however rain and mobs aren't worth the downsides of minecraft to me 03:03 NekoGloop Those would be? 03:03 kaeza TheZenKitteh, rain is possible, but too laggy to implement right now 03:04 kaeza I think sfan5 made one rain mod or something like that 03:04 NakedFury with time most of the MC stuff can be brought over but the engine needs to evolve a lot more 03:04 TheZenKitteh nekogloop.. slow, not enough to do, modding too "difficult" and many mods conflict without modding the mods.. and slow and did I mention slow? 03:04 kaeza modding the mods... modception? 03:04 NekoGloop TheZenKitteh: Get a real (not intel) graphics card 03:04 TheZenKitteh I have an nvidia card 03:04 TheZenKitteh just not newest 03:04 TheZenKitteh lol 03:04 NekoGloop Also ID resolver mod. 03:05 TheZenKitteh 256MB agp which still plays 99% of games I like 03:05 TheZenKitteh why should I get a new expensive card to play a crappy nonfree game? 03:05 TheZenKitteh lol 03:05 NekoGloop Then get a real driver 03:06 TheZenKitteh I can even play sims 3 with this card without issue 03:06 NekoGloop Oh wait, you have a shit os. 03:06 NekoGloop nvm. 03:06 TheZenKitteh on windows of course 03:06 TheZenKitteh I have windows and linux 03:06 TheZenKitteh minecrap slow on both 03:06 TheZenKitteh lol 03:06 NekoGloop Then get a real graphics card 03:06 TheZenKitteh I do have a real graphics card 03:06 TheZenKitteh and a real computer 03:06 TheZenKitteh and I play a real game called minetest 03:06 TheZenKitteh not written in java 03:06 TheZenKitteh lol 03:07 TheZenKitteh java has its uses.. but not for games 03:07 NekoGloop real games are written in assembly. 03:07 * TheZenKitteh has never spotted an assembly coded game 03:07 khonkhortisan goto? yuck 03:08 TheZenKitteh with the funds minecraft has they should have redone it in c++ by now 03:08 TheZenKitteh lazy fekers 03:08 TheZenKitteh lol 03:09 NakedFury thats too 03:09 Menche wasn't there a recent scare over a vulnerability in java? 03:09 TheZenKitteh yep menche 03:10 TheZenKitteh dept of homeland security sent out the alert 03:10 TheZenKitteh saying basically disable java till its updated 03:10 TheZenKitteh lol 03:10 Menche wonder if mojang noticed their servers go really quiet 03:11 Menche i bought minecraft, but since i discovered minetest, i don't play it much 03:11 NekoGloop No 03:11 NekoGloop They dont give a fuck if their servers go quiet 03:12 kaeza TheZenKitteh, line 49 of mtmodinstall.sh: change to ...installed at \"$INSTALLLOC\"" 03:12 Menche i remember really early on in it's development, notch said he planned on opensourcing minecraft 03:12 Menche i think thats probably off now 03:12 NakedFury yes 03:12 TheZenKitteh when people stop buying minecraft they will open source it a couple years later 03:13 RealBadAngel they wont move because thanks to java they can easily migrate to other enviroments 03:13 RealBadAngel handhelds, pocket whatever, even microwave owens 03:13 Menche is the ios minecraft rewritten? i thought apple only allowed objective-c to be used 03:14 Menche lol, minecraft-running microwave 03:14 Menche touch-screen first-person games are annoying at best and unplayable at worst 03:15 Menche minecraft pe is hard to use 03:16 RealBadAngel its just another gadget 03:16 RealBadAngel nice but not useable 03:17 Menche don't care how much apple fanboys say tablets are the future, a tablet is *never* replacing my laptop 03:17 RealBadAngel future of techno morons 03:17 TheZenKitteh menche it will once your laptop becomes too slow to use and laptops stop getting made 03:17 RealBadAngel not real users 03:17 NekoGloop Tablets *are* the future. Just not as they stand now. 03:18 jojoa1997 what can you do with server and admin privs and what is the difference? 03:18 RealBadAngel same as touch pad 03:18 Menche server priv allows /shutdown and /set 03:18 RealBadAngel worst invention in history of mankind 03:18 NekoGloop Pull-out keyboards similar to those seen on some phones. Those will be on tablets. 03:18 TheZenKitteh of course I still don't have a touchpad or tablet or any of that nonsense. not even a cell phone. don't want them either 03:18 jojoa1997 what is /set 03:19 jojoa1997 sttime? 03:19 Menche jojoa1997: it allows changing settings 03:19 jojoa1997 settime 03:19 jojoa1997 oh and what does admin priv do 03:19 kaeza jojoa1997, Read The Fine Manual 03:19 Menche there is an admin priv? 03:19 Menche gah, can't begin my messages with a / 03:19 RealBadAngel *Fuckin 03:19 jojoa1997 link please? 03:19 TheZenKitteh Read The Full Manual? 03:20 jojoa1997 or where could i find it 03:20 kaeza Menche, leave a space 03:20 RealBadAngel menche put space 03:20 kaeza /trollolo 03:20 * Menche just discovered how to do this 03:21 NekoGloop trawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawlawl 03:21 jojoa1997 where is the full manual 03:21 * TheZenKitteh no idea 03:21 Menche is there one? 03:21 kaeza jojoa1997, RTFM and GIYF 03:21 Menche minetest.conf.example is useful 03:21 * TheZenKitteh doesn't even know what you all are talking aboot 03:21 jojoa1997 jojoa1997, Read The Fine Manual 03:22 kaeza jojoa1997, see what Menceh said 03:22 kaeza frack 03:22 jojoa1997 k 03:22 kaeza Menche* 03:22 kaeza gotta use tab completion more often... 03:23 * Menche just discovered tab completion 03:24 kaeza just a random question: what happened with markv? I haven't seen him lately 03:24 * NekoGloop just discovered fire 03:24 kaeza +b perhaps? 03:25 * NekoGloop just burned down his house 03:25 * Menche hacked real-life fire to burn dirt and stone 03:25 * NekoGloop just made this into Twitter 03:26 * Menche is addicted to 3rd-person posts 03:26 * kaeza made a house out of CONTENT_IGNORE 03:26 * NekoGloop made a house out of melon in mc 03:26 * khonkhortisan watches them use /me 03:26 * TheZenKitteh sits back and watches as well 03:27 NekoGloop CCCCCCCOMBOBREAKER! 03:27 * kaeza just posts a random /me 03:27 kaeza a fck 03:27 * TheZenKitteh /me /me /me /me /me /me /me 03:28 TheZenKitteh lol 03:28 * khonkhortisan says /you 03:28 kaeza /meme ? 03:28 * TheZenKitteh is guilty of having a rageface smilie pack.. just not installed currently 03:29 * kaeza requests a link 03:29 TheZenKitteh GIYF 03:29 TheZenKitteh lol 03:29 kaeza lol you're learning quickly 03:29 TheZenKitteh I did make a rage face pack for pidgin back when I couldn't find any rageface packs 03:29 TheZenKitteh now they are everywhere 03:30 kaeza !g rage smiley pack 03:30 kaeza oh...right 03:30 TheZenKitteh Flips a coin: TAILS 03:30 kaeza sorry, too lazy to Alt-Tab 03:30 * TheZenKitteh rolls 2 6-sided dice: 6 1 03:31 khonkhortisan 2d6: 2-12 03:31 khonkhortisan result 7 03:31 TheZenKitteh my messenger has coin flip, dice roll, 8ball and stargate 8 ball features lol 03:31 TheZenKitteh The Purple Stargate Ball says: I got nothin' 03:31 TheZenKitteh lol 03:31 OldCoder O.K. 03:32 OldCoder So I update Technic... what else? 03:32 * OldCoder scrolls up 03:32 OldCoder Is that it for tonight? 03:32 * kaeza pokes OldCoder to update IRC as well :P 03:32 TheZenKitteh do you need a jail? 03:32 OldCoder Ah 03:32 TheZenKitteh lol 03:32 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, sure 03:32 OldCoder Lots of those 03:33 OldCoder Dogzilla131 has made a nice one 03:33 * TheZenKitteh notes the jail mod 03:33 TheZenKitteh useful for naughty players 03:34 TheZenKitteh I need to work on it so it will become better 03:34 TheZenKitteh but it's a learning project for me. pushing my skills in lua beyond what I know for the purpose of learning 03:34 TheZenKitteh wb kaeza 03:35 kaeza thx :) 03:36 TheZenKitteh afk a sec 03:39 OldCoder 03:40 OldCoder Folks, I am updating technic and irc mods 03:40 OldCoder What other changes do people wish tonight? 03:40 OldCoder VanessaE, are there any changes since last night? 03:40 TheZenKitteh back 03:41 OldCoder Gambit, Hi; I see you are still here 03:41 OldCoder jojoa1997, you wanted an update 03:41 OldCoder But I need the link and to ask about it 03:41 OldCoder Does anybody wish mods? 03:41 OldCoder <-- Ask for mods! 03:41 Gambit I want a minetest mod that adds dildos and unicorns. 03:41 Gambit Dinnerbone won't add them to Minecraft :( 03:42 OldCoder Hmm? 03:42 OldCoder That is... 03:42 TheZenKitteh lol @ gambit 03:42 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena 03:42 OldCoder an odd combination 03:42 OldCoder jojoa1997, is it tested? 03:42 TheZenKitteh do it gambit 03:42 jojoa1997 upadte spleef arena 03:42 jojoa1997 yes 03:42 OldCoder jojoa1997, k that too then 03:42 Gambit TheZenKitteh: But OldCoder said to ask for mods. 03:42 Gambit :< 03:42 jojoa1997 i just changed the speeda 03:42 OldCoder Gambit, you complain about nonsense in *your* channel 03:42 TheZenKitteh what would such a mod even be named gambit? 03:42 OldCoder Hmpph 03:42 OldCoder Gambit 03:42 OldCoder Of course 03:42 OldCoder It would be his signature mod 03:43 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc 03:43 Gambit (One time someone hired a twitter botnet to ping Minecraft developers with thousands of requests for unicorns and dildos) 03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, that one 03:43 jojoa1997 i fixed a texture naming error 03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, is not quite working 03:43 OldCoder They requested it be removed 03:43 jojoa1997 what is 03:43 OldCoder jojoa1997, Peaceful NPC 03:43 jojoa1997 npcs 03:43 jojoa1997 ok that is fine 03:43 OldCoder please talk to Oblivion and Mark if you can find them 03:43 OldCoder I will update Spleef Arena now 03:43 jojoa1997 one sec 03:44 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/special_tools 03:44 jojoa1997 it adds super fast leaf cutters 03:44 jojoa1997 it works and is on a couple of servers 03:44 TheZenKitteh lol spleef sounds too close to another word that's dirty for my liking 03:44 * jojoa1997 covers ears 03:46 kaeza how Windows works: http://www.mrlovenstein.com/comic/364 03:46 OldCoder I am updating technic, spleef-arena, and irc 03:47 OldCoder Mods mods come and get yer mods 03:47 OldCoder Or other changes 03:47 OldCoder Last Call For Mods! 03:47 kaeza heh 03:47 jojoa1997 gtg cya 03:47 OldCoder etc. 03:47 OldCoder VanessaE, you AFK? 03:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, cu 03:47 jojoa1997 are you gonna add special_tools 03:47 kaeza Call of Moddy: Minetest Warfare 03:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, link? 03:48 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/special_tools 03:48 TheZenKitteh oh why not.. how about industrial oldcoder? 03:48 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Link? 03:49 TheZenKitteh https://github.com/TheZenKitteh/minetest-industrial 03:49 kaeza babyface also wanted industrial 03:49 OldCoder Wait 03:49 OldCoder jojoa left... 03:49 OldCoder I can't add special tools without the thread 03:49 OldCoder and more info 03:49 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, hold on 03:49 TheZenKitteh k 03:49 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, where is the thread? 03:49 OldCoder for Industrial? 03:50 TheZenKitteh http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=692 03:50 OldCoder ty 03:50 VanessaE OldCoder: I am here, just busy. What's up? 03:50 OldCoder R 03:50 OldCoder VanessaE, quick question only 03:50 OldCoder Any changes since last night? 03:50 VanessaE nope 03:50 OldCoder ty! 03:50 VanessaE nothing that needs to be pushed right away anyways 03:50 kaeza great, we bitched to Dogzilla131 to not add pokemons and jojoa adds them right away 03:51 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, are you Raphael? 03:51 TheZenKitteh oldcoder yep 03:51 OldCoder figured 03:51 OldCoder Now... 03:51 OldCoder What sorts of depends are there? And is this high CPU? Finally: stable or crashy? 03:52 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, ^ 03:52 TheZenKitteh industrial has no dependencies and no known issues that im aware of 03:52 OldCoder Really? 03:52 OldCoder ?? 03:52 OldCoder Sounds good 03:52 TheZenKitteh I used to depend on another mod but I removed that dependency 03:52 OldCoder How is it on CPU? 03:53 TheZenKitteh it* 03:53 TheZenKitteh it just adds new themed blocks, safes filing cabinets and crates 03:53 OldCoder High CPU? Low CPU? 03:53 OldCoder So pretty safe everywhere? 03:53 TheZenKitteh I would suspect low cpu 03:53 OldCoder So pretty safe everywhere? 03:53 TheZenKitteh I've never personally had any issues with that mod and nobody has complained about it 03:53 TheZenKitteh lol 03:53 OldCoder Does not cause craft conflicts? 03:53 OldCoder LOL? 03:54 OldCoder Hell try running 19 worlds 03:54 OldCoder You'll learn :P 03:54 TheZenKitteh craft conflicts no idea. its been around awhile 03:54 OldCoder Does not cause craft conflicts? 03:54 OldCoder Then 03:54 OldCoder We added asphalt 03:54 TheZenKitteh when it was first made it had no conflicts 03:54 OldCoder We shall industrialize 03:54 OldCoder ! 03:54 TheZenKitteh since then its possible someone made a mod that used one of my crafting recipes 03:54 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, If I add this everywhere 03:54 OldCoder Will you test it out in a couple of worlds? 03:54 OldCoder And watch for people complaining 03:54 TheZenKitteh sure 03:55 OldCoder About broken recipes n such? 03:55 OldCoder k 03:55 OldCoder You are promising 03:55 TheZenKitteh if anyone complains direct them to that forum post so I will know and can fix 03:55 OldCoder I need the help 03:55 OldCoder *crinkle* 03:55 OldCoder ^ sound effect 03:55 TheZenKitteh of course I need urls and ports to servers you wantme to play with 03:55 * OldCoder opens the shrinkwrap 03:55 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 03:55 OldCoder Take your pick! 03:55 OldCoder Hang on... adding mod 03:56 TheZenKitteh do I need a special client? 03:56 OldCoder Nope 03:56 OldCoder 0.4.4 03:56 OldCoder Mine is recommended 03:56 OldCoder for Windows 03:56 kaeza TheZenKitteh, 30004 :3 03:56 * OldCoder adds Raphael to the authors list 03:57 OldCoder Looks good... 03:57 TheZenKitteh there needs to be work done to the multiplayer tab so one can have multiple servers bookmarked 03:57 TheZenKitteh some servers (not yours exactly) have some odd urls or ports lol 03:57 * OldCoder shrugs 04:00 jojoa1997 OldCoder what was updated/added 04:01 OldCoder jojoa1997, preparing now 04:01 OldCoder jojoa1997, I can't do special tools 04:01 OldCoder without more infor 04:01 OldCoder without more info * 04:01 OldCoder need thread or details 04:01 OldCoder Got more info? 04:01 jojoa1997 giving thread 04:01 jojoa1997 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4444 04:01 kaeza TheZenKitteh, problems in octuteam world? 04:02 OldCoder R 04:02 TheZenKitteh kaeza: ? 04:02 jojoa1997 for now there is only one tool but i plan on adding more 04:02 Menche grr, forum polls make refreshing really hard 04:02 OldCoder jojoa1997, where has this been posted? 04:02 OldCoder Oblivion1500, have you tried special tools? 04:03 jojoa1997 what do you mean where 04:03 OldCoder Has it been tested? 04:03 jojoa1997 yes it has 04:03 Oblivion1500 special tools? 04:03 OldCoder nvm you will see it 04:03 Oblivion1500 sorry i was having internet issues 04:03 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am going to call it jojoatools 04:03 Oblivion1500 its in the mod list 04:04 jojoa1997 no that wont work with the code 04:04 jojoa1997 why rename it? 04:05 Oblivion1500 it makes it easy for him to stay organized 04:05 Menche load in vim -> %s/oldname/newname/g -> changed to the new name 04:05 OldCoder jojoa1997, It is too narrow a mod for such a broad name 04:05 OldCoder Changes done! 04:05 OldCoder Last Chance! 04:05 jojoa1997 ok but it will have more later 04:05 Oblivion1500 nothing i can think of but is there a link for the new add? 04:06 OldCoder Worlds going down! 04:06 OldCoder Oblivion1500, ? 04:06 OldCoder Oblivion1500, what? 04:06 jojoa1997 and you can change name 04:06 Oblivion1500 oh found it 04:06 * TheZenKitteh roars klaxxon 04:07 Oblivion1500 well there is no readme... im just wondering what the mod is going to do... is there a link to the forum for special tools? 04:07 OldCoder Apparently not 04:07 OldCoder Looks like 04:07 OldCoder Wait... 04:07 * jojoa1997 turns TheZenKitteh into a dog 04:07 OldCoder http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4444 04:08 jojoa1997 it is very simple 04:08 Oblivion1500 thanks 04:08 jojoa1997 yeah that is it 04:08 TheVoidedWarrant arg 04:08 * jojoa1997 gets a new warrenty 04:09 Oblivion1500 lol thats all the mod does.. cuts leaves.. my pic axe does that 04:09 OldCoder Let him learn 04:09 OldCoder It is a teaching aid 04:09 jojoa1997 yeah but this does it super fast with a cool texture 04:09 Oblivion1500 oh i see 04:10 OldCoder Oblivion1500, tell me if it works 04:10 jojoa1997 TheZenKitteh HA!! i win 04:10 OldCoder It will just be in Mark Twain World first 04:10 Oblivion1500 ok will do 04:10 jojoa1997 mark twain up? 04:10 Oblivion1500 no 04:10 OldCoder Rebuilding worlds now 04:11 Oblivion1500 he will let us know, he always does 04:11 jojoa1997 also Oblivion1500 are you an admin 04:11 Oblivion1500 no 04:11 OldCoder If not now, probably soon 04:11 OldCoder I have not seen Mark around enough 04:11 jojoa1997 good 04:11 jojoa1997 He never is 04:11 OldCoder I hope he comes by occasionally 04:11 OldCoder When I get to know people, I miss them 04:12 jojoa1997 OldCoder do you want me to give him privs 04:12 Oblivion1500 human nature 04:12 OldCoder jojoa1997, yes 04:12 jojoa1997 done deal 04:12 Oblivion1500 sweet 04:12 jojoa1997 Oblivion1500 welcome to the crew :-) 04:12 * jojoa1997 shakes Oblivion1500's hand 04:13 Oblivion1500 :) thanks, i have been helping oldcoder with testing for a little bit now. 04:13 Oblivion1500 i think the site will be awesome once minetest is in beta 04:13 jojoa1997 wait what is it in now? 04:14 Oblivion1500 i thought it was in alpha 04:14 Oblivion1500 untill 1.0 if im not mistaken 04:14 OldCoder jojoa1997, I thought you said you tested the mode 04:14 OldCoder * mod 04:14 jojoa1997 spider webs http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/pictures/111202-best-news-pictures-national-geographic-top-ten/#/pakistan-floods-drive-spiders-into-trees-adult_34026_600x450.jpg 04:14 OldCoder 04:14:25: ERROR[main]: ...etest/games/metropolis_game/mods/jojoatools/init.lua: 04:14 OldCoder 'register_alaise' (a nil value) 04:14 OldCoder jojoa1997, that does not look very tested to me 04:15 OldCoder In fact 04:15 jojoa1997 i did i was talking about minetest itself 04:15 OldCoder Not tested AT ALL D: 04:15 OldCoder I wanted to know if you had tested the mod 04:15 OldCoder Please do NOT 04:15 jojoa1997 but i did 04:15 OldCoder submit them again until testing 04:15 OldCoder Oh? 04:15 OldCoder 'register_alaise' (a nil value) 04:15 OldCoder Explain that then 04:15 jojoa1997 wtf i changed that 04:15 Menche how did you even get it loaded during testing? 04:15 kaeza jojoa1997, may I get a link to test here? 04:16 Oblivion1500 did you push the commit? 04:16 Menche thats what i was about to say 04:16 jojoa1997 minetest.register_alias("shears", "special_tools:shears") 04:17 jojoa1997 did you use github 04:17 OldCoder Damn 04:17 OldCoder When this happens 04:17 OldCoder things are a mess 04:17 OldCoder cleaning up now 04:17 jojoa1997 do i have a download link on the topic 04:18 kaeza jojoa1997, seems you should update your package 04:18 kaeza ... 04:18 kaeza that sounded nasty somehow lol 04:18 jojoa1997 there it uses only github now 04:19 jojoa1997 look at this sinkhole http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/pictures/111202-best-news-pictures-national-geographic-top-ten/#/giant-sinkhole-guatemala-city-why_21263_600x450.jpg 04:20 kaeza loos like someone divided by zero 04:20 * jojoa1997 awwwww http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/02/pictures/120215-smallest-chameleons-new-species-madagascar-science/ 04:20 Menche make a mod that randomly creates huge holes in the landscape 04:20 OldCoder Restoring worlds 04:20 jojoa1997 not me X| 04:20 kaeza Menche, ask kizeren about his experience with nether mod ;) 04:21 Menche or have a moderator command /smite that opens a hole under the targetted player 04:21 jojoa1997 kizeren could you tell us 04:21 TheZenKitteh lol mod idea: a mod that when a player types in chat /0 it creates a 100 block deep hole under them that is about 10 blocks wide.. of course totally useless unless im missing something 04:21 kaeza Menche, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_4262554471.jpg 04:21 jojoa1997 kizeren you here? 04:22 kaeza jojoa1997, he's asleep 04:22 Menche kaeza, wow. once I had a huge hole in a server due to map corruption 04:23 Menche it was weird, the bottom wasn't entirely rendered, and there was a lava lake with a sandy beach at the bottom 04:23 kaeza Menche, that has happened several times on Shaun/kizeren's server 04:23 jojoa1997 gtg parents say bedtime Oblivion1500 i will give you privs tomorrow unless OldCoder can 04:23 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am removing the mod 04:24 OldCoder jojoa1997, test it again sometime 04:24 jojoa1997 ok why 04:24 OldCoder good night 04:24 TheZenKitteh night jojoa1997 04:24 OldCoder It is broken 04:24 OldCoder and has broken all my worlds 04:24 OldCoder But sleep well 04:24 Oblivion1500 bye 04:24 OldCoder Oblivion1500, you will be opped shortly 04:24 kaeza Menche, the funny thing is the water does not flow 04:24 jojoa1997 good night yall and sorry i will try to see what is wrong tomorrow 04:24 kaeza night 04:24 Oblivion1500 ok, thanks OldCoder and Jojoa 04:25 TheZenKitteh oddly whenever I see big deep random holes that fus ro dah thing pops into my head 04:25 Menche kaeza, yeah thats weird. it didn't flow when it happened on mine, but mine was different; the walls and floor were'nt rendered 04:26 kaeza Menche, in this case, I commited the stupidity of placing a node near the how 04:26 kaeza huge mass of water flows to minus infinity 04:26 kaeza server killed 04:26 kaeza lol 04:26 TheZenKitteh /0 04:27 kaeza s/how/hole/ 04:27 * TheZenKitteh getting sleepy 04:27 Menche iirc, falling sand/gravel disappeared when falling into the hole on my server 04:27 * kaeza will steal TheZenKitteh's idea and code a divide_by_zero mod 04:28 TheZenKitteh lol go for it kaeza.. just be sure to offer disclaimer since a greifer could have a lot of fun with such a mod 04:28 OldCoder NEWS Worlds are UP 04:28 TheZenKitteh yay 04:28 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, Industrial should be in most of them 04:28 kaeza nukes+divzero == griefer's paradise 04:29 OldCoder Oblivion1500, opping youo 04:29 TheZenKitteh im trying to connect to 30004 04:29 OldCoder *u 04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, what OS are you? 04:29 Oblivion1500 sweet 04:29 TheZenKitteh mint 13 04:29 TheZenKitteh before worlds went down I got stuck at loading media 04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, k let us know 04:29 TheZenKitteh got stuck at 0% 04:29 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, restart 04:29 TheZenKitteh I just fired it up and its still apparently stuck on 0% media 04:30 TheZenKitteh kaeza said to wait since a lot of mods 04:30 Oblivion1500 im using mint 14 and its fine for me 04:30 TheZenKitteh does the client have to be 0.4.4 stable or will a dev work? 04:30 Oblivion1500 it would tell you usually wouldent it 04:30 kaeza Menche, falling nodes (entities) disappear if the player is not close to them, but in your case, looks like a portal to hell lol 04:31 TheZenKitteh well I recall seeing it said servers running minebest so was curious if there would be an issue connecting from a dev minetest 04:31 TheZenKitteh hmm still on 0% 04:31 Oblivion1500 uhm,,, my minetest just closed itself... 04:32 TheZenKitteh gonna try another server to see if its just that one 04:32 Oblivion1500 will try again.. might just have been a bug 04:34 TheZenKitteh do do do 04:34 TheZenKitteh hmm seems 30003 is same 04:34 * kaeza tosses a random screenshot at the channel https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_3930614684.jpg 04:34 TheZenKitteh I know my net is fast enough 04:35 TheZenKitteh ill give it a min to see if it connects 04:36 TheZenKitteh I don't think this is gonna work 04:36 TheZenKitteh lol 04:36 TheZenKitteh o wait 04:36 TheZenKitteh I see movement 04:36 TheZenKitteh lol 04:37 kaeza suddenly... crashes 04:37 kaeza lol 04:37 TheZenKitteh that was a long wait to start downloading 04:37 kaeza TheZenKitteh, the good thing is that you need to do that only once ^_^ 04:37 TheZenKitteh well this I think is 30003 04:37 TheZenKitteh about 50% now 04:38 TheZenKitteh kaeza I presume you use 30004? 04:38 kaeza yes 04:38 kaeza (I'm admin there) 04:38 TheZenKitteh lol 04:39 TheZenKitteh god mode 04:39 kaeza yup ^_^ 04:39 TheZenKitteh k 30003 cache done.. now onto 30004 04:39 kaeza but to grant interact I need your email address, street address, driver's license, social security number, ... 04:40 TheZenKitteh lol fek that 04:40 OldCoder ? 04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, where would you like interact? 04:40 TheZenKitteh btw im curious why are there so many servers? 04:40 kaeza lol just kidding 04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, simple... 04:40 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, two reasons: 04:40 TheZenKitteh well if I can connect.. first off 30004 since kaeza plays on there. id rather play on a server I know some people 04:41 kaeza I trust you will not grief there :P 04:41 OldCoder 1. There are a few worlds large enough or unique enough they deserved servers. 2. People kept demanding their own. "I am special! Give me servers! I am different!" I am mostly going to limit to #1 for now 04:41 TheZenKitteh im waiting on the server to make up its mind if it will send me the media 04:41 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, let us know when you are in 04:42 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, for example Skyblock is fun and different 04:42 kaeza TheZenKitteh, I just gave you interact 04:42 kaeza have fun 04:42 * TheZenKitteh pokes server for signs of life.. 04:42 OldCoder TheZenKitteh, and I rescued Calinou World when its server died 04:42 OldCoder We nearly lost the world 04:42 TheZenKitteh btw RAPHAEL is the nick on there 04:42 kaeza (if you ever connect lol) 04:42 OldCoder thexyz helped us fix the database 04:42 TheZenKitteh there it goes 04:42 TheZenKitteh 50% and counting 04:43 TheZenKitteh 70% 04:43 TheZenKitteh 80% 04:43 TheZenKitteh lol 04:43 OldCoder Good 04:43 TheZenKitteh I guess the server decided to send me the media 04:46 Oblivion1500 hmm sence using linux i have been getting like 10-20 maybe 30 fps... whats up with that? 04:48 TheZenKitteh graphics drivers? 04:48 TheZenKitteh I get more fps on linux than windows generally 04:51 Oblivion1500 im thinking it may have something to do with my wireless driver.. i seem to have crappy speeds... but it could also be the new modem they put in, it fregging sucks.. they try to fix one problem by giving me a modem that cant handle the speeds that we should be getting 04:51 Oblivion1500 shitty isp 04:52 Oblivion1500 i have had them out multipul times to fix a timeout error and they deside that giving me a modem that doesent use as much resorces is going to help 04:52 Oblivion1500 well it did, i dont time out, i just go SSssssllllooooowww now 04:53 Oblivion1500 i should just call them out every day for dinner or something.. 04:53 Oblivion1500 have the table set, and when they come over just sit them down and eat and talk about what the problem is and send him on his way only telling him im going to have another sent the next day 04:54 TheZenKitteh cable dsl or what? 04:54 Oblivion1500 uhm i beleave dsl hold on 04:54 Oblivion1500 its roadrunner lightning 04:55 Oblivion1500 provided by brighthouse 04:55 TheZenKitteh I know before I had cable net and had issues with timeouts and super slow speeds.. changed MTU in router to 1400 and it fixed it 04:55 Oblivion1500 im supposed to get 40mb download and 9 upload 04:55 Oblivion1500 i get 5 download and 5 upload 04:55 Oblivion1500 yea, you see the problem 04:55 Oblivion1500 mtu? 04:56 TheZenKitteh yea the default tends to be 1500 if I remember right but most cable services do better with a setting of 1400 04:56 Menche i thought larger mtu sizes were more efficient 04:57 Oblivion1500 where might i find this opption? 04:57 TheZenKitteh not for cable net in this area 04:57 TheZenKitteh router admin 04:57 TheZenKitteh the isp told me to do that here after I had tried everything I know and everything server levels of techs knew 04:58 TheZenKitteh top tech said change it to 1400 and bam no issues for 2 years 04:58 TheZenKitteh lol 04:58 Oblivion1500 wow i cant find the option... 04:58 TheZenKitteh each router different can't help there 04:59 Oblivion1500 yea i know.. but it should be somewhere, im looking everywhere.. 04:59 TheZenKitteh on my router at the time the MTU setting was on front admin page 05:00 Oblivion1500 really 05:00 Oblivion1500 hmm,,, my other modem had more options than this one has.. maybe it doesent have that option? 05:01 TheZenKitteh router? 05:01 TheZenKitteh I've never seen one without an MTU setting but if you can't find it just next time you talk to the techs ask them about it 05:02 Oblivion1500 no modem 05:03 Oblivion1500 i do recall having something like that in my last modem.. im still doing some looking around and changing settings anyway.. maybe that will help me 05:13 Oblivion1500 ok well it looks like i have to make sure all my comps have firewalls because once i disable the firewall on my modem speeds sky rocket 05:13 TheZenKitteh lol 05:15 Oblivion1500 again, stupid isp 05:16 Oblivion1500 well its time for me to see what that did to minetest 05:22 Oblivion1500 nope its still the same,, 05:22 Oblivion1500 let me download another, that might be the problem... 05:24 TheZenKitteh .. hello and bye celeron55 05:24 TheZenKitteh lol 05:28 Oblivion1500 lol 05:36 Oblivion1500 i still need to figure out why im downloading minetest at 100 kb a sec... 05:37 NakedFury you got some freeloader on your internet? 05:37 NakedFury downloading torrentz 05:37 Oblivion1500 no, 05:38 Oblivion1500 just trying to play minetest 05:38 NakedFury I just helped a friend setup passwords for internet and it got faster so he probably had some neighboor using his 05:40 Oblivion1500 no, my pass is set up, my isp is crap, i have had them out multiple times to fix internet loss issues 05:57 Oblivion1500 hey, does anyone know what ip6-allnodes is? 05:58 NakedFury no 05:59 Oblivion1500 well im runing etherape and it seems to be sending constant data back and forth to another thing on my network... 06:00 Oblivion1500 something with a weard mac address, im not to sure if that is my printer though 06:00 NakedFury kill it 06:00 Oblivion1500 how do i kill it? 06:00 NakedFury is there no way to stop its connecting except taking out the cable? 06:01 Oblivion1500 uhm,? i cant get to my printer at the moment 06:02 Oblivion1500 the protocal its using is ICPMPV6 06:03 NakedFury Internet Control Message Protocol version 6 (ICMPv6) 06:04 Oblivion1500 hmm, well its not connected to my computer 06:04 Oblivion1500 it just seems as if its sending constant data back and forth 06:04 Oblivion1500 and do you know what mcast.net is? 06:05 Oblivion1500 that may be my printer, because it says hp, 06:08 NakedFury I just google all that 06:08 NakedFury but something is weird with your connection if you arent getting the speed you pay for 06:09 Oblivion1500 well yea 06:10 Oblivion1500 hold on im going to kill most of what would be using my internet and see what happens 06:18 * TheZenKitteh wonders if oblivion1500 is using windows 06:19 VanessaE jeez my internet is acting up today... Oblivion1500 must have traded my modem for his while I wasn't looking. 06:19 TheZenKitteh night everyone 06:19 VanessaE night 06:20 kaeza VanessaE, I know that feel sis 06:20 VanessaE Oblivion1500: I want my modem back! you gave me your shitty ISP problem :) 06:21 Oblivion1500 lol you can have this junk 06:21 kaeza imagine you are in a creepy dark cave, and all of a sudden, you find this when you turn around the corner: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1103833664.jpg 06:21 Oblivion1500 i just want to know what this ip6-allnodes crap is 06:22 VanessaE no clue. 06:22 VanessaE kaeza: you are likely to be eaten by a grue. 06:22 Oblivion1500 its constantly sending a signal to this fe23::43d:dccc:frs2:4r84 06:22 kaeza hah 06:23 kaeza hmm...talinite... 06:29 Oblivion1500 that is not the same mac address as the one thats using my network. so yea if your waisting your time you should stop 06:30 Oblivion1500 also it seems to be isolated 06:30 Oblivion1500 like doesent do anything but talk to ip6-allnodes 06:46 VanessaE stupid busted-ass ISP 06:58 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png 06:58 VanessaE if anyone cares, I just made a kick-ass colors.txt file :-) 06:58 VanessaE ^^^^ that is the result 06:59 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt 06:59 VanessaE there's the file. 07:02 Oblivion1500 lol changed my dns's and everything seems great 07:03 Oblivion1500 omg! you need to give that script to oldcoder 07:04 Oblivion1500 both of them 07:05 Oblivion1500 oh wait, that isjust telling where everything is,... 07:05 Oblivion1500 you should make a script that pulls all the items and puts them on a txt file 07:05 OldCoder Hmm? 07:05 Oblivion1500 oh, your there 07:05 OldCoder VanessaE, what should I do with that? 07:05 OldCoder Oblivion1500, of course 07:05 VanessaE Oblivion1500: actually, I already filled in pretty much everything worth using :-) 07:06 VanessaE OldCoder: if you want to use it, put it in minetestfolder/util in place of the old colors.txt and then run minetestmapper as usual. 07:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I am not familiar with minetestmapper 07:06 OldCoder Comment please 07:07 OldCoder How is that run? 07:07 VanessaE OldCoder: it's a program that comes with the engine that draws map overview images. 07:07 OldCoder Where is this program? 07:07 VanessaE util/minetestmapper.py --drawscale -i ~/.minetest/worlds/My_World_server/ -o ~/Digital-Audio-Concepts-Website/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png 07:07 OldCoder Reviewing 07:07 VanessaE in the minetest sources, /util directory. 07:07 OldCoder Ah 07:07 OldCoder That one 07:07 OldCoder It does not work for me 07:07 OldCoder Python problem 07:08 OldCoder But I will fix it sometime 07:08 OldCoder Thank you for the file 07:09 OldCoder Hmm 07:09 OldCoder I'll trying reinstalling PIL when I have a chance 07:19 kaeza ADVERTISING IN FORUM??? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4460 07:19 kaeza VanessaE, ^ 07:20 VanessaE deleted and banned. 07:21 kaeza nice ^_^ 07:21 kaeza stupid spammers 07:21 kaeza thanks V ^_^ 07:32 Oblivion1500 hey oldcoder 07:32 OldCoder Yep 07:33 Oblivion1500 did you recently install jungle trees? 07:33 OldCoder Nope 07:33 OldCoder But 07:33 OldCoder I *did* install Plant Life 07:33 OldCoder and 07:33 OldCoder moretrees 07:33 VanessaE OldCoder: moretrees 07:33 OldCoder Yep 07:33 OldCoder I figured 07:33 VanessaE (provides jungle trees) 07:33 Oblivion1500 moretrees.... 07:33 Oblivion1500 sssssssssllllllllloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww 07:33 VanessaE Oblivion1500: don't like it? 07:33 Oblivion1500 they look cool and all but my fps is like 10 around them 07:34 VanessaE sowwy 07:34 Oblivion1500 and there big and in my front yard 07:34 Oblivion1500 you know how hard it is to take one of these down? 07:34 Oblivion1500 like an hour 07:35 Oblivion1500 i ment how long... yea its late for me 07:35 VanessaE Oblivion1500: I can fell a jungle tree in about 5 minutes with an admin pick. :-) 07:35 Oblivion1500 what is the item:name for that 07:35 VanessaE maptools:admin_pick I think 07:37 Oblivion1500 thats not it... 07:37 kaeza pick_admin? 07:37 VanessaE maptools:pick_admin 07:37 VanessaE yep kaeza's got it. 07:38 kaeza pick_wood, pick_stone, ..., so it should be pick_admin I guess 07:38 Oblivion1500 cannot give unknown item 07:39 VanessaE guess you don't have maptools then 07:39 VanessaE got gloopblocks? 07:39 kaeza Oblivion1500, grep 'register_tool' maptools/init.lua 07:39 VanessaE gloopblocks:sword_evil is almost as fast (:also pick_, :axe_, and :shovel_) 07:40 Oblivion1500 one sec 07:41 VanessaE or the toolsizes mod has some fast tools also. 07:41 VanessaE large mese pick for example 07:43 Oblivion1500 hmm no toolsizes, im on oldcoders server the marktwane one 07:44 VanessaE hm 07:44 VanessaE what about mese starter kit? got that? 07:44 VanessaE it has a mese axe which should be fairly quick 07:45 VanessaE greetz, taoki 08:16 Oblivion1500 i think im just going to run around and plant these jungle trees round peoples houses, i think thats what happened to me 08:16 VanessaE now now 08:17 Oblivion1500 if you plant them in a line will they grow right next to eachother? 08:17 VanessaE they grow naturally near water, but limited to biome-like zones 08:17 VanessaE I think so 08:18 Oblivion1500 biome? whats that? 08:18 VanessaE but don't go griefing like that 08:18 VanessaE a biome is a software-defined area of a map with some particular property 08:18 Oblivion1500 i was actually thinking about making a wall of them around my house 08:19 VanessaE in this case, it's a sort of unnamed jungle-ish biome :-) 08:19 Oblivion1500 so they grow aroud houses? 08:19 VanessaE no 08:19 VanessaE if planted they will 08:19 VanessaE but they spawn near water and only if the water is in the right biome area 08:19 Oblivion1500 ohh i see 08:20 VanessaE and only then if the elevation is between -5 and +10m 08:20 Oblivion1500 i guess my house was the right area for all these damn trees to pop up 08:22 VanessaE yup 08:22 VanessaE my brick house on 30017 was also 08:24 Oblivion1500 omg i just flew up and there are so many of these things.. i dont know what to do 08:27 VanessaE sowwy :-) 08:28 Oblivion1500 lol its ok, what can i do with conifer trunks? 08:28 VanessaE nothing as yet, except build with them 08:28 VanessaE there's some crafting recipes but I think I still need to activate the 08:28 VanessaE them* 08:28 Oblivion1500 bah, 08:29 OldCoder VanessaE, Is moretrees working in my worlds? 08:30 VanessaE OldCoder: apparently it is ^^^ :-) 08:30 VanessaE but lemme go look around 08:30 OldCoder I see 08:30 Oblivion1500 its working on marks world, they popedup everywhere on my land haha 08:32 VanessaE yep, they seem to be working on 30017. 08:33 VanessaE OldCoder: your map loader is as slow as mine :( 08:33 VanessaE (at least I know it ain't just me) 08:33 OldCoder All right 09:02 kaeza good night everyone! off to bed :) 09:02 VanessaE night 09:03 Oblivion1500 good night! 09:54 Oblivion1500 so,,,, how is everyone? 10:06 Jordach oh fuck, its -7'c here 10:06 Jordach hello OldCoder 10:10 Jordach bbbbrrrrrr 10:59 celeron55_ Jordach: it's -21°C in here 10:59 celeron55_ nice and refreshing 10:59 Jordach :O 11:01 Jordach even the 2.6Kw Quartz heater cant do shit 11:01 Jordach (then again, there is little to NO insulation in this 1920's house) 11:05 celeron55_ all houses in finland have plenty of insulation and heating capability 8) 11:05 celeron55_ regular inside temperature in here 11:05 Jordach aw man 11:06 celeron55_ on the other hand, housing does cost a lot in here 11:07 * celeron55_ sees he just used "in here" enough times for the rest of the week 11:07 Jordach celeron55_, its worse over here 11:07 * Jordach isnt shitting you 11:07 celeron55_ give an example 11:08 Jordach lemme pull up some links 11:11 Jordach celeron55_, pm 11:12 Jordach i dont know the exact euro (conv.) so 11:45 arvis Where is zeg9? :( 11:50 Jordach arvis, somewhere on planet earth in the solar system in the universe 11:51 arvis You forget the Milk Way. Jordach 11:51 Jordach meh 11:51 BillyBlueHat And the local group 11:51 Jordach why bother with details that NO ONE knows of? 11:59 jojoa1997 Hi who is here 12:00 Jordach not many people 12:22 arvis Any administrator there for zeg9 map? 12:24 Jordach nope. 12:24 Jordach john_minetest is 12:24 Jordach but hes no here 12:49 iqualfragile ima here 14:02 thexyz /quit 14:02 thexyz oops 14:09 Jordach lol 14:16 RealBadAngel hi all 14:16 RealBadAngel thexyz, is the seed stuff for trees really needed? 14:17 thexyz sure it is 14:17 RealBadAngel so ok, i will make it 14:17 thexyz because maps with equal seed should be equal 14:17 thexyz k 14:18 RealBadAngel sorry for my attidute before, but i was tryin to make them as random as possible 14:19 thexyz that thing does not make them less random 14:20 RealBadAngel yeah, i was thinkin bout it and now i agree. but at the start it affected me as red colour for the bull 14:21 RealBadAngel sorry for that 14:21 thexyz np 14:21 Jordach hey RealBadAngel rather than work on your trees 14:22 RealBadAngel im pretty close to finish the tree framework 14:22 Jordach make a node group to handle is_conntected = so things like mesecons are updated by the engine and not lua 14:22 Jordach (should only work within the mod_ 14:23 RealBadAngel technic needs lotsa updates 14:23 RealBadAngel i will make them as soon as im done with trees 14:23 RealBadAngel need to finish textures, post 2 patches against treegen 14:24 RealBadAngel polish everythin, then on weekend i plan to start again with technic 14:25 RealBadAngel thexyz, 2 patches because one is ready, it adds new features 14:25 RealBadAngel second will be seed stuff, to wrote 14:27 RealBadAngel btw, i posted that already but not everyone has seen it propably, so: 14:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/morewood.png 14:27 jojoa1997 wow what are the types of trees 14:29 Jordach RealBadAngel, and FINALLY implement High Voltage 14:29 Jordach (thats annoyed me for weeks) 14:29 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel have you seen avatar the blur people on Pandora 14:29 Jordach "blur" ?? 14:29 RealBadAngel "indians" 14:30 jojoa1997 blue 14:30 RealBadAngel blue ones ;) 14:30 jojoa1997 yeah make a home tree 14:30 RealBadAngel i can, but that definitely will be a mod 14:31 RealBadAngel about screenshot, from left to right: 14:32 jojoa1997 vanessae wont add it to here moretrees but i would really like to habe it 14:32 jojoa1997 avatar-anywhere, like the giant tree from avatar, one per world, 100 blocks tall*30 blocks wide 14:32 RealBadAngel default (beech), oak, sequoia, palm, birch, spruce, pine, willow\ 14:32 jojoa1997 and only one poured would 14:32 jojoa1997 one per world 14:33 jojoa1997 could you add it to your mood or make a new one 14:33 RealBadAngel so we will make worldtree mod 14:33 RealBadAngel no problemo 14:34 jojoa1997 worldtree-the avatar home tree 14:35 RealBadAngel big enough to built city in it 14:35 RealBadAngel i like the idea 14:35 jojoa1997 have you seen the movie 14:35 RealBadAngel many times 14:35 jojoa1997 make and outer ring and a inner ring 14:35 jojoa1997 innner ring=20 blocks 14:36 RealBadAngel got the 40gb version on my hd 14:36 jojoa1997 outer+inner=50 blocks 14:36 kizeren Someone will have to make a skin to go along with it :) 14:36 jojoa1997 i can find one 14:36 jojoa1997 http://www.minecraftskins.com 14:36 RealBadAngel some1 should make avatar like textures for all the flora 14:37 Jordach wasnt there a minetest game for this? 14:37 RealBadAngel glowing at night 14:37 init pandoratest 14:37 jojoa1997 yeah but it was for 0.2 14:37 Jordach nope. 14:37 jojoa1997 IIRC 14:37 RealBadAngel so, the request 14:37 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2845 14:37 init having the new mapgen will be better, i think 14:38 RealBadAngel some1 makes textures for the plants 14:38 RealBadAngel i will make the HUGE trees 14:38 jojoa1997 make 200-500 high 14:39 RealBadAngel this can end with a game mode 14:39 RealBadAngel another gravity, floating mountais, world trees etc.. 14:40 jojoa1997 so RealBadAngel this mod is a go 14:40 jojoa1997 go game mode 14:40 RealBadAngel plants glowing at night 14:40 RealBadAngel i like the idea 14:41 RealBadAngel and jungle everywhere 14:41 jojoa1997 i love it too 14:41 jojoa1997 make huge jungle trees but add smaller trees and finally 5 block high trees 14:43 RealBadAngel Jordach, screenshots links are somehow fucked up in this topic 14:43 Jordach somehow 14:44 jojoa1997 which topic 14:44 RealBadAngel ^^ jordach posted 14:45 jojoa1997 what tools would be there and oh 14:45 jojoa1997 i think bows and arrows 14:45 RealBadAngel i think two sets 14:45 init start smaller 14:46 init first code the basic stuff, then expand it 14:46 RealBadAngel wonder how to determine that depending on startin players pick 14:46 RealBadAngel i mean technic for humans 14:46 RealBadAngel bow and arrows like stuff for the blue ones 14:46 jojoa1997 use tha faction mod 14:46 jojoa1997 to make 2 groups 14:47 jojoa1997 that you cchooose in thhe beginiig 14:48 jojoa1997 /nahi /human 14:48 RealBadAngel what i can say right now. i see lotsa coding there 14:48 jojoa1997 and default is regualer 14:48 jojoa1997 yep 14:48 RealBadAngel some1 should take the lead of the project 14:48 jojoa1997 anyone want to make a topic on it so we can keep track of ideas 14:49 jojoa1997 I cant beginner proggramer 14:49 RealBadAngel Jordach, are you busy lately? 14:49 Jordach yes 14:49 Jordach see pm: 14:50 init jojoa1997: i already said 14:50 init if you want to code something big, start smaller 14:50 jojoa1997 i know gtg 14:50 RealBadAngel ha, i got an idea 14:50 RealBadAngel i will try to "sell" the idea to VanessaE 14:50 RealBadAngel :) 14:51 RealBadAngel shes able to handle stuff like that 14:51 RealBadAngel and prolly shes gonna like it 14:52 pandaro I am happy that my idea was liked 14:56 OldCoder Hi 14:56 OldCoder Jordach, Hello 14:56 Jordach hey OldCoder 14:57 Jordach OldCoder, pm 14:57 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder 15:21 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:22 Jordach hey there PilzAdam 15:40 OldCoder Hi 15:40 OldCoder PilzAdam, Howdy 15:40 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Ditto. The updates were made. 15:40 babyface1031 hi 15:40 OldCoder babyface1031, Good morning to you as well. Your 3D avatar went in the other day. 15:41 babyface1031 ty all the other 3d avatar were guys 15:47 Infinity_69 hi 15:49 Calinou hi Infinity_69 15:49 Infinity_69 Calinou, do you like forums? 15:49 Infinity_69 http://hvgaming.bugs3.com/forum 15:49 Infinity_69 please register :) 15:49 init i still don't know why Infinity_69 isn't banned or quieted 15:49 Infinity_69 why should i be? 15:50 Infinity_69 hmm? 15:50 init spammer and flooder 15:50 Infinity_69 no 15:50 Infinity_69 theres gonna be a minetest forum/category there soon... 15:50 Infinity_69 i just installed the forum 15:50 Calinou we already have a forum 15:50 Calinou I like forums, but not yours 15:50 Calinou 15:50 Infinity_69 i just installed it :/ 15:50 Infinity_69 -.- 15:51 Infinity_69 Calinou, pick, either you go and register, or im banning you there! 15:51 Infinity_69 PICK 15:51 Calinou nope.avi 15:51 Infinity_69 why nope.avi? 15:51 Infinity_69 ive seen it so many times, and not asked why .avi? 15:52 Infinity_69 so why? 15:52 Infinity_69 why not .png, .flw etc... 15:52 Calinou TF2 joke ;) 15:52 Infinity_69 oh :D 15:52 Calinou http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Nope.avi#nope.avi 15:53 Infinity_69 just saw it :d 15:53 Infinity_69 hat up, *nope* head up 15:53 Infinity_69 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBCjejaZbJo 15:54 Infinity_69 look at this 15:54 Infinity_69 this is what the U.S. army will look like :D 15:54 Infinity_69 if not already :D 15:58 thexyz we already have forum, what's the point in creating another board, Infinity_69? 15:59 Infinity_69 not just for Minetest 15:59 Infinity_69 its for the gaming community 15:59 Infinity_69 there will be several games there... 16:00 Infinity_69 first 2 are Counter-Strike & Minetest 16:01 thexyz so, what's the point? 16:01 Infinity_69 its the community were talking about 16:01 Infinity_69 THE COMMUNITY! 16:02 thexyz huh, community? 16:02 Infinity_69 btw, can somebody get me a .torrent for The Hunger Games? 16:02 Infinity_69 the movie 16:02 Infinity_69 :D 16:02 Infinity_69 i cant open magnet links :/ 16:02 thexyz >Total number of registered users: 1 16:02 thexyz Infinity_69: shall I call freenode staff? 16:03 Infinity_69 its me 16:03 Infinity_69 sure :D 16:03 Infinity_69 for what? 16:03 Infinity_69 wait... 16:03 Infinity_69 please dont +q or +b me 16:03 Infinity_69 i did nothing wrong! 16:04 thexyz Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network 16:04 Infinity_69 what?1 16:04 Infinity_69 I JUST INSTALLED THE FORUM 16:05 Infinity_69 thats why i need/want/would like some new members 16:06 thexyz 19:59 < Infinity_69> | btw, can somebody get me a .torrent for The Hunger Games? 16:06 thexyz discussing piracy @ freenode is not a good idea 16:06 Infinity_69 why not? 16:06 Infinity_69 tell me that you have NEVER torrented/pirated anything -.- 16:07 thexyz I'm not discussing it here as it is against guidelines 16:07 Infinity_69 LMAOROF 16:23 * Calinou plays minetes 16:23 Calinou minetest* 16:23 Calinou i'm offtopic, ban me 16:27 KikaRz Hello! 16:28 KikaRz It's Minetest... Minetest... tomorrow we will play the Mineteeest... 16:28 KikaRz e_e' 16:29 thexyz Calinou: ? 16:30 init > file 16:30 thexyz > file 16:32 thexyz if you wish to pipe stderr too then >file 2>&1 16:32 init &>file should work too 16:33 Infinity_69 im getting The Hunger Games 16:33 Infinity_69 :d 16:33 Infinity_69 soon done :D 16:34 Infinity_69 hi Pool Go Ken1 16:34 Calinou seems legitr 16:34 Calinou -r 16:34 Infinity_69 what does 16:34 Calinou my hands are cold :| 16:34 Infinity_69 then touch my...umm...nvm -.- 16:35 Infinity_69 xD 16:35 NekoGloop pool-go-ken == inverse of NekoGloop, Calinou. In case you missed that. 16:35 Infinity_69 :D 16:35 Infinity_69 its clever, huh :D 16:35 Infinity_69 CLEVERBOT! 16:35 Infinity_69 http://www.cleverbot.com 16:36 NekoGloop cleverbot == ben 16:37 Infinity_69 no! 16:37 Infinity_69 srsly, go there 16:37 Infinity_69 that asshole is clever >:/ 16:37 NekoGloop ask him about ben 16:37 Infinity_69 she wont even take her clothes off1 16:37 Infinity_69 she needs me :d 16:37 Infinity_69 http://www.cleverbot.com/j2log-xGsTLtKGAWBQGACEFMEE-detail 16:39 Infinity_69 ok, shes an idiot 16:39 KikaRz Who? 16:39 NekoGloop Infinity_69: that log is empty 16:39 Infinity_69 really_ 16:39 Infinity_69 wtf Öd 16:39 Infinity_69 :d 16:39 Infinity_69 Clever Bot 16:39 Infinity_69 lawl 16:39 Infinity_69 she forgot Estonian ÖD 16:39 Infinity_69 :D 16:40 Infinity_69 oh no she didät! 16:40 NekoGloop Let's see if i can make him talk more about ben. 16:42 * Jordach wonders why i ignored him 16:42 Infinity_69 omg, she wants to marry me :) 16:42 NekoGloop Jordach: because spam 16:42 Jordach yup 16:43 Infinity_69 oh... 16:43 Infinity_69 Pool, Go Ken! 16:43 Infinity_69 i know why it was empty 16:43 Infinity_69 its cached in my pc... 16:43 Infinity_69 xD 16:43 Infinity_69 so it takes the whole conversation... 16:44 Infinity_69 lol 16:45 Infinity_69 my upload rate is 0-50 kb/s 16:45 Infinity_69 :D 16:45 Infinity_69 dude, stop harassing the bot! 16:45 NekoGloop john_minetest: Therefore the supierior OS is Windows. 16:45 Infinity_69 TheXYZ 16:45 Infinity_69 ban john_Minetest 16:46 Infinity_69 his harassing the bot1 16:46 Infinity_69 >D 16:46 Jordach high five 16:47 * Infinity_69 gives Jordach a high-five, but misses his hand and hits his face 16:51 * Infinity_69 waits for a slap-back 16:53 * Infinity_69 is correcting the HTML code before putting it online 16:54 Infinity_69 hey if i have warnings, is it bad? 16:54 Infinity_69 not errors, just warnings 16:56 Infinity_69 MY CSS3 doesnt have any errors too :D 16:56 Infinity_69 IM CLEAR :D 16:57 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AJBNQ6x7Bw What in... 17:07 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010 17:08 babyface1031 is smooth stone and stone the same if not how do i make smooth stone 17:09 Jordach smooth stone is refered to cooked cobble, since there are usually no sticky out-y bits on default:stone 17:09 babyface1031 ok ty 17:14 marktraceur Heh, sticky outy 17:14 markveidemanis Stone? 17:15 Jordach marktraceur, best way top describe 17:16 NekoGloop -p 17:17 marktraceur Jordach: Prottruding? 17:17 Jordach better 17:17 marktraceur Protruding* 17:19 NekoGloop meow 17:20 marktraceur Youow 17:20 bas080 woef woef.. 17:22 klunk hello ! 17:22 NekoGloop :3 17:24 klunk marktraceur: I'm sorry for yesterday; I worked more my engrish, and for now, my welcome message will be Hello. It should be said what I mean. 17:25 NekoGloop what was the problem? 17:25 marktraceur klunk: Hi, I'm sorry, I don't remember what was up yesterday 17:25 marktraceur klunk: But sure, what's up? 17:26 babyface1031 can someone help me find the newest 0.4.4 everyone i have tryed i log in the server adn it still says i am not on the right 0.4.4 17:26 klunk I had talking to someone, a newcomer, I think and said him stuff wich appeared to not said what I wanted to say. 17:26 NekoGloop 0.4.4-r1 can be found on github 17:27 klunk because it should be "welcome" but appears like "BOUH !!" (threatened) 17:27 Jordach babyface1031, your problem is that you probably have the newest and the stable wont work with the latest. 17:28 klunk so, no worry of nothing, just if someone arrives here, I must let you talk to him before to welcome without misunderstanding. 17:28 marktraceur klunk: Oh, right 17:29 marktraceur klunk: It's OK, I joked about you sounding creepy but it was only a joke :) 17:29 babyface1031 anyone have the link to the 0.4.4 that OldCoder has on his servers 17:29 marktraceur klunk: IRC is always international, so we imperialist Anglophones all understand that we have to half-translate sometimes 17:31 klunk marktraceur: ok ! I had thought I hadn't said something correct for a welcome; I'm used to failed english speaks :-) 17:32 * marktraceur looks it up 17:32 OldCoder Hi 17:32 OldCoder babyface1031, It is my 0.4.4 17:32 OldCoder babyface1031, You may have the sources; see me later. 17:33 babyface1031 ok 17:33 * OldCoder is on a short errand 17:33 marktraceur klunk: "It will be ever better with your touch" does sound like something you might say to a lover over candlelit dinner 17:33 NekoGloop Or a very bad pickup lin 17:33 NekoGloop line, if my e key will work 17:34 marktraceur Bad Pickup Lin: Chinese game show about a guy bombing with women at a bar 17:34 klunk yes I was afraid about my use of touch, now I know ... 17:34 marktraceur klunk: I suppose you meant something like "influence", which was sort of understood 17:35 klunk marktraceur: influence sounds ok, I will try to remember, thanks ! 17:36 klunk Hi OlCoder, john_minetest. I just connected two times to Zegaton and it appears I havn't worldedit. Oldcoder, do you wants me to see that with john ? 17:36 marktraceur klunk: Also, emoticons and exclamation marks certainly help express enthusiasm, and differentiates it well from other emotions (e.g. arousal) 17:37 klunk marktraceur: yes, good idea :-) 17:37 klunk john_minetest, OldCoder ok ! 17:38 Obiewan1111 Is there a way to stop a sapling growing without obscuring the sight? 17:39 marktraceur Obiewan1111: Make it dark? 17:39 marktraceur (that may not matter) 17:39 PilzAdam saplings grow in the dark 17:39 marktraceur (experimentation is fun) 17:39 marktraceur (boy that parenthetical statement could have used some emoticons and exclamation marks) 17:40 Obiewan1111 If there isn't a way, there should be! 17:40 Obiewan1111 Like a "Fake Sapling". 17:41 Obiewan1111 Dunno how to.] 17:46 marktraceur Obiewan1111: That would be more like a bush 17:46 Obiewan1111 Not really. o.o 17:46 marktraceur Obiewan1111: Simple enough to do, see e.g. the farming mod(s) 17:46 Obiewan1111 It would be a planted sapling. 17:47 marktraceur Obiewan1111: You could probably do something like "plant seed, which grows into sapling, which grows into bigger sapling, which grows into tree" 17:47 marktraceur When I was chatting with RealBadAngel about L-system trees, a big part of my theory was that we would support incremental growth 17:47 marktraceur (I don't know whether that's the case now, I haven't tried his trees yet) 18:09 NekoGloop marktraceur: it is not 18:57 sfan5[iPod] my computer broke 18:57 Jordach uh-oh 18:57 * NekoGloop mutters something about linux 18:57 sfan5[iPod] ... 18:57 NekoGloop Actually the odd thing is that my computer was being strange this morning 18:58 Jordach NekoGloop, they do that, like women 18:58 sfan5[iPod] it beeps and fails to connect to any hardware like sound card or hdd 18:58 NekoGloop My system is set up so that a "System Restore" function is set as a dualboot-able OS. 18:58 Calinou recovery partitions ahoy? 18:58 Calinou i've removed these on my desktop 18:58 Calinou :> 18:58 NekoGloop Well, this makes a boot manager appear instead of just going straight to windows 18:58 Calinou frees up 50GB 18:58 Calinou out of 2TiB 18:59 Jordach thats like 4% 18:59 NekoGloop And if i never press anything, it automatically goes to windows after 3 secs or so 18:59 NekoGloop It didnt do that this morning 18:59 Calinou TiB != TB by far, heh, thunar and df -h both seem to count with decimal prefix 18:59 Calinou ...the standard is binary prefix since like 15 years ago 18:59 RealBadAngel offtopic: does 8 hobbits equals 1 hobbyte? ;) 18:59 Calinou lol 18:59 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: no 18:59 sfan5[iPod] :D 19:00 Jordach RealBadAngel, haha! 19:00 Calinou welcome to my forum signature 19:00 RealBadAngel ;) 19:01 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on RealBadAngel's head 19:01 NekoGloop So do your solar panels not send fractions of power now? 19:01 RealBadAngel its night out there, how they could? 19:02 NekoGloop I mean in technic, stupid. 19:02 RealBadAngel i will get back to technic when im done with trees framework 19:02 NekoGloop So basically you dont give a fuck. 19:03 NekoGloop Got it. 19:03 RealBadAngel no, i dont have time for that 19:03 RealBadAngel each day 10 hrs takes job 19:03 marktraceur NekoGloop: Wow, want to be more confrontational about that? 19:04 NekoGloop s/each day 10 hrs takes job/I work for 10 hrs each day/ 19:04 RealBadAngel im off 5 am returnin 5:15pm 19:04 NekoGloop marktraceur: I'm sure I could. 19:04 marktraceur NekoGloop: Or you could not be rude instead, and we'd all be happier for it 19:04 NekoGloop marktraceur: I'm only returning his favor. 19:04 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2016012013%20-%2020%3A01%3A39.png 19:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: Where was he confrontational like that? 19:05 thexyz Calinou: lol 19:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: I dont think you were here then. Long time ago. 19:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: Logs, maybe? 19:05 Jordach Calinou, lolollol 19:06 NekoGloop marktraceur: Dont care, maybe? 19:06 marktraceur NekoGloop: Then quit being pissy about it 19:06 NekoGloop marktraceur: Then stop bringing it up. 19:07 marktraceur NekoGloop: This isn't a question of which came first. You called RBA stupid and swore at him unnecessarily, *then* I warned you about not being rude and pissy. 19:07 Jordach ladies, hambags down 19:07 NekoGloop Indeed. 19:08 RealBadAngel im gloop-proof 19:08 RealBadAngel dont count that 19:08 NekoGloop aka he has /ignore 19:08 Jordach if im going to be the one who is end all to be all arguments, then this is a problem 19:08 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If it were just about you, I wouldn't say anything. This is a channel for a serious free project, and we can't risk alienating people. 19:09 marktraceur Not that we haven't already, but I can't be blamed for that. 19:09 NekoGloop Then why dont you stop it then. 19:09 marktraceur ....accurately, anyway. 19:09 RealBadAngel cats are strange, folks have just to get used to them 19:09 marktraceur NekoGloop: I intend to, but a warning suffices for now. 19:09 NekoGloop Aha. 19:12 Jordach marktraceur, you wont know what hell is until you have kids :P (i've had to babysit before and its harsh) 19:14 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel you there? 19:14 marktraceur Jordach: Hell? I can't wait to have kids. 19:15 marktraceur Well, I can wait. But it's certainly an exciting idea. 19:19 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, yes, but not for long 19:20 jojoa1997 what has the avatar idea come to 19:20 RealBadAngel nowhere yet ;) 19:20 Muadtralk I heard cats being brought up 19:20 Muadtralk whats up #minetest :P 19:21 RealBadAngel hi sdzen 19:21 NekoGloop meow 19:21 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel will you be making the tree at least 19:21 Muadtralk watch out neko I broke my cats tail this morning 19:21 RealBadAngel sure 19:22 RealBadAngel but now im off to sleep 19:22 RealBadAngel cya all 19:22 jojoa1997 k good night 19:26 * Jordach has noticed strange behaviour with jordach's 'q' key 19:26 Jordach sometimes it works, sometimes it dont wanna 19:28 Muadtralk hmmmm 19:28 Muadtralk I think you will have to consult the q dimension for that jordach 19:28 Muadtralk they may be conversing with your keys 19:28 Muadtralk telling them to not work 19:29 Muadtralk or you may need to clean under the key 19:46 Infinity_69 hi 19:46 Infinity_69 i saw The Hunger Games 19:46 Infinity_69 AWESOME :D 19:46 Infinity_69 Cathrene and Peter won :d 19:46 Infinity_69 w00t! 19:50 marktraceur Jordach: Are you saying there's something wrong with the q continuum? 19:52 infinity_69 hi 19:53 infinity_69 hey niko 19:57 babyface1031 hi 19:59 erlehmann i commented on the shirt effort http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63922#p63922 19:59 erlehmann hello minetest 19:59 erlehmann :) 19:59 marktraceur erlehmann: Hi! 19:59 erlehmann how can i put sponge into the map generator? 19:59 erlehmann is that possible via lua mod? 19:59 erlehmann i want them to be not craftable, but findable somewhere in the sand 20:00 marktraceur erlehmann: See e.g. moreores 20:00 marktraceur erlehmann: You have to hook into minetest.on_generated or something 20:00 marktraceur Then replace random bits with your node 20:00 sapier on_generated needs a major overhaul 20:01 sapier at least if it's supposed to significantly modify generated blocks 20:02 marktraceur Hm....this gives me a thought 20:02 sapier if you touch a node core touches at least 6 others 20:02 marktraceur Well yeah 20:02 sapier so modifying large amounts of nodes isn't quite anything to be done by lua 20:03 erlehmann wow http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2671 20:03 erlehmann sapier, i do not want to have many sponges 20:05 sapier I just wanted to warn you as yesterday someone wanted to replace all air nodes by water ... no chance to do this from lua 20:07 sapier at least not with current setnode function 20:08 erlehmann sapier, underwatercraft? 20:08 erlehmann MINAQUARIA 20:08 sapier something like that yes 20:09 thexyz how about aliasing air to water? 20:09 PilzAdam you can easily set air to water in the mapgen aliases for mapgen_air 20:10 sapier of course ... but you can't replace it with "setnode" maybe transformation handling needs to be disabled for "on_generated" handler too 20:13 marktraceur Woo, minetest merch on the way 20:14 markveidemanis ? 20:15 erlehmann marktraceur, in the forum post? or do you have some other source? 20:15 marktraceur erlehmann: I bought some from cafepress 20:16 erlehmann marktraceur, gibe link. 20:16 marktraceur erlehmann: http://www.cafepress.com/+minetest+gifts 20:16 erlehmann also, be aware that you can re-use and modify it (CC BY-SA 3.0) :3 20:16 * marktraceur will draw a moustache on the logo 20:16 marktraceur Woohoo, free culture! 20:17 markveidemanis LoL 20:17 markveidemanis I like the MeSe shirt 20:25 PilzAdam bye 20:36 erlehmann marktraceur, thanks for the link to the shop. I mailed cafepress to explain CC BY-SA. 20:38 marktraceur Excellent. 20:53 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155 20:54 VanessaE Nore added the ability to sort items in tubes by color tags \o/ 20:55 Jordach VanessaE, OMFG 20:56 VanessaE also on another note, I've lost 45.8 kg as of today :-) 20:56 Jordach pipeworks awesomeness level: 999 20:56 Jordach oh and well done VanessaE 20:56 Jordach night all 20:56 VanessaE nigh t:) 20:56 VanessaE night :) 20:56 Jordach :P 20:57 Octupus Hello 20:58 babyface1031 hi Octupus 20:58 VanessaE bahahahahaha 20:58 VanessaE look at today's Google doodle 20:59 VanessaE with a built-in NES-style minigame 20:59 erlehmann whom of you made mesecons? 21:00 Octupus Hi babyface1031 21:00 erlehmann i like it, but the microcontroller does not seem to be in style 21:00 thexyz Jeija did 21:00 erlehmann and the and/or things need better graphics 21:00 VanessaE hey now, be nice - I did the graphics for mesecons :) 21:01 Menche I don't understand why the mesecons.tk website uses those super-ultra-mega-high resolution textures. I think it should use the default ones. 21:01 VanessaE Menche: because they look flashy? 21:01 VanessaE (and those are from my HDX texture pack) 21:02 Menche VanessaE: but they don't match the default mesecons textures and could be confusing 21:02 VanessaE that said, it's just a website :-) 21:02 VanessaE also, mesecons.tk is deprecated. 21:02 VanessaE use mesecons.net 21:02 thexyz why is it still here then? 21:03 VanessaE thexyz: dunno, ask jeija :) 21:03 Menche oh, it's down. anyway, mesecons.net still uses the obscenely huge textures 21:03 Menche doesn't match mesecons 21:04 VanessaE Menche: they're the same texture as mesecons, just higher resolution. 21:04 thexyz >"Mesecons" is a (free) mod for the game minetest-c55 21:04 thexyz Minetest, not minetest-c55 21:04 Octupus Hi Menche 21:04 Menche hi Octupus 21:04 thexyz and yeah, I agree with Menche 21:05 Menche they are just a higher resolution, but, well, they're a higher resolution, not the default 21:05 Menche and i thought the full name was minetest-c55 21:06 VanessaE I guess not anymore, it does just say "Minetest" at the top these days 21:06 VanessaE (though I also still use the -c55 nomenclature in places, like HDX's menu screen) 21:06 Menche suppose i'll have to change the menutitle.png of my pack 21:07 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/1d13d106dd58cd18a019046840c180da25001b02 21:07 Menche ...and get around to finishing it too 21:07 Menche lol 21:10 Menche argh, my audio cable was 3" too short, so I had to use a 5' one 21:14 Octupus I have an idea 21:14 Octupus But it might be an engine thing 21:16 * Menche is all ears 21:16 Menche the suspense... 21:16 VanessaE what idea 21:17 Octupus Well 21:17 Octupus I been playing mc this past month 21:17 Octupus Again i see that they have a feature that allows players to update from there client instead of the download 21:18 Octupus so i suggest to make a single client that can update isnt of having ppl to download and delete all the time 21:18 thexyz useless 21:18 thexyz too hard to implement 21:18 Octupus :/ 21:18 Menche would have to check that it's in a folder the user has write access to 21:19 thexyz that should be done by your distro's package management system 21:19 Octupus VanessaE, Menche,What do you guys think 21:19 Menche but would be nice for people who don't use git 21:19 Menche wouldn't have to open a web browser to dl the latest 21:19 Octupus arent i smart :P 21:20 Menche would be mainly useful for windows, as linux has package management 21:20 VanessaE Octupus: I'd have to decline also. 21:20 Octupus like me because i use windows 21:21 Octupus VanessaE,As i said it was just an idea :P 21:21 VanessaE Octupus: we try not to hold that against you (using windows ;) ) 21:21 Menche it would be annoying to have to open the browser to dl the latest version 21:21 Octupus :P 21:21 thexyz windowsfags should suffer 21:21 thexyz oh, wait, forgot to put some ^W's 21:21 Octupus xD 21:22 Menche I keep an installation of windows around in dual boot 21:22 thexyz ATM there are: official win32 builds, sfan5's ones and mine 21:22 Menche because Apple makes me 21:22 Menche iTunes is the only reason i have windows 21:22 thexyz how should the thing determine which update to download? 21:22 Octupus xD 21:22 Menche i thought they were competitors... 21:22 marktraceur Menche: Why must you use iTunes instead of others? 21:23 Menche marktraceur: silly iPod 21:23 Octupus marktraceur: because itunes is the best :3 21:23 thexyz libimobiledevice 21:23 Menche libimobiledevice, for some reason, lets me take music off of the iPod but not put it on 21:23 marktraceur Menche: RockBox is a great replacement for the handcuffs that come with iPods 21:23 Menche its an iPod touch 21:23 marktraceur Oh, yeah, that's just a bad idea 21:24 marktraceur Menche: I'd suggest selling it and getting a less restricting device, mate 21:24 thexyz lol 21:24 Menche perhaps it was foolish of me to update it, i should have known Apple breaks other platforms with every update 21:24 Menche and most jailbreak utilities are windows and mac only 21:25 VanessaE kaeza: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2155 \o/ 21:25 thexyz freedom is damn expensive, isn't it, marktraceur? 21:25 VanessaE also, hi 21:25 Menche its almost dead, the battery's horrible and the screen's starting to flicker 21:25 thexyz then just throw it out 21:26 marktraceur thexyz: Not particularly, it means I spend a lot less on new tech 21:26 thexyz hm... 21:26 marktraceur thexyz: "OMG OMG THE NEW IPHONE CAME OUT MY OLD ONE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A YEAR" 21:26 erlehmann Octupus, update is a feature of your operating system distribution or it is not. i know only four distributions (osx, windows, android/linux, ios) which have sub-par package management. 21:26 marktraceur I had the same phone for three years, then switched to one that will, in all likelihood, last 3 more. 21:27 marktraceur (OK, there was an interim step, but it's still cheaper) 21:27 erlehmann VanessaE, your pipes seem too round for me. 21:27 erlehmann VanessaE, can we have more blocky pipes? :3 21:27 VanessaE erlehmann: no. :-) 21:27 Menche yeah, minetest is about blocks 21:27 kaeza VanessaE, +1e+100000 21:27 erlehmann transparent pipes are an awesome idea 21:27 Menche IMO, super high detail nodeboxes are a little out of place in mt 21:28 Menche in most cases 21:28 VanessaE some of us use MT differently than others :) 21:28 erlehmann VanessaE, you seem to be an awesome modder btw. 21:28 VanessaE if it's about cubes, then flowing water is our, too 21:28 VanessaE out* 21:28 thexyz marktraceur: well, http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04 21:28 VanessaE and 45 degree rails 21:28 VanessaE and signs 21:28 VanessaE and.. and.. 21:28 Menche well, to some extent. i personally like and use tonyka's 3d tree trunks 21:29 pandaro i love openmoko 21:29 Menche is tonyka still around anyway? 21:29 VanessaE erlehmann: that said, there are some blocky, boxy-looking pipes in the mod, they're just disabled by default because they don't "work". 21:29 VanessaE (look at init.lua, uncomment the dofile line near the top) 21:29 Menche tonyka was awesome at nodeboxes. look at the chains he made 21:30 init hai VanessaE 21:33 erlehmann Menche, links? 21:34 erlehmann maybe i can make mechanics mod again! 21:34 kaeza hay init/Exio 21:34 kaeza hai* 21:34 init wazzup kaeza 21:34 Menche erlehmann, to what? tonyka's 3d stuff? 21:34 Menche http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2207 21:34 kaeza not much 21:35 erlehmann > forniture 21:35 erlehmann hahaha 21:35 erlehmann lol bathroom crafting 21:35 Menche is that how furniture is spelled in Spanish? 21:35 Octupus OMG SFAN LATEST ADDS HUNER WOOOT 21:35 Menche he's from spain 21:35 jojoa1997 whats hunter woot 21:36 erlehmann toilet lol 21:36 kaeza Menche, forniture[sic] is a typo 21:37 kaeza it's "muebles" in spanish 21:37 kaeza or "mueblería" 21:37 Menche oh, duh. been 3 years since i took spanish 21:37 * kaeza is native Spanish speaker 21:37 Octupus thats not furniture 21:37 Octupus furniratura 21:38 Octupus thats furniture is spanish 21:38 kaeza well, "muebles" is in Uruguayan Spanish 21:38 Menche well google translate sais it's muebles 21:38 init kaeza: what about my spanish! 21:38 Octupus muebels is sofa :/ 21:38 * Menche is only fluent in english 21:38 kaeza or 21:38 kaeza right :) 21:39 Octupus :P 21:39 Menche plus a bit of spanish and a tiny bit of latin 21:39 Octupus lait and spanish are same :/ 21:39 Menche not really 21:39 Octupus *latin 21:39 kaeza nope 21:39 Menche some words are similar 21:40 init muebles for me, is more than "sofa" 21:40 kaeza latin is the language from which others like English and Spanish were born 21:40 Menche "casa" for example is the same. but plural is "casas" in spanish and "casae" in latin 21:40 Octupus ok 21:40 Octupus :) 21:46 sapier john_minetest I don't assume latin and chinese to have to have lots of words in common ;-) 21:50 marktraceur thexyz: I caved and went with the N900, which is about as good as it gets right now 21:51 Menche most of my immediate family are extreme apple fans 21:51 init marktraceur: do you have a N900? 21:52 init i'll steal it 21:52 sapier die 23:38 Menche i am assuming that the suit takes the damage, and you can hurt the player if you hit in the head or legs? 23:38 Octupus but minetest can be different from MC that why i say we shud us clothing instead of armour that gives protection 23:38 init well, die doesn't mean losing the inv 23:40 Menche if so, this armor is awesomely better than MC armor 23:43 init well, can someone code the lua_hook/whatever for the playing taking damage? :P 23:43 Kacey maybe celeron55 and some devs could work out how to make 3rd person view possible... 23:44 Menche yeah, I hadn't seen the 3d player for a while before i was on my server yesterday 23:44 erlehmann init, then cacti could work! 23:44 Kacey haha 23:44 * marktraceur thinks step 0 in further engineering efforts for Minetest is the documentation sprint this weekend, enabling more casual hacking 23:44 erlehmann Kacey, I made a mod once to clear lava. obsidian. 23:45 erlehmann I can fix it so it works on current minetest \o/ 23:45 Menche erlehmann: you could just make cactus a bit smaller and add a damage=value to it 23:45 erlehmann ima gonna fix obsidian 23:45 init marktraceur: ++ 23:45 NakedFury step 1 would then be bug extermination 23:45 NakedFury step 2 add more stuff 23:46 mauvebic step1 +1000 23:46 marktraceur NakedFury: It would be useful to work on bugs, but also useful to continue work on the infrastructure 23:46 NakedFury after step 0 and 1 we can talk about adding core features 23:46 Kacey marktraceur: irc or what? 23:46 marktraceur NakedFury: After docs are up, it might be good to split a few tasks off to be more manageable 23:47 Menche if it's a bug that makes minetest require more processing power, that must be fixed 23:47 marktraceur Kacey: I'm thinking bug tracking and triaging, regular(ish) events to drive development, and some work on the modding system (like package management, for example) 23:47 Menche my pentium 4 lags :( 23:47 mauvebic mine too and i changed the gfx card less than a year ago lol 23:47 Kacey marktraceur: can i be the test monkey? 23:48 marktraceur Kacey: For what, the documentation? 23:48 Kacey to find bugs and that 23:48 marktraceur Oh 23:48 Uberi look at all these open issues 23:48 Uberi half of them are just feature requests 23:48 NakedFury we are all test monkey for minetest 23:48 marktraceur Kacey: If you play the game regularly, and report bugs you find, you already are a test monkey :) 23:49 mauvebic at least 3 issues that seem to be the same thing too lol 23:49 marktraceur Then start closing and tagging them! 23:50 mauvebic you usually dont close issues until they're fixed, no matter how long? 23:50 marktraceur mauvebic: If three issues are the same, they should be closed as duplicates. 23:50 marktraceur mauvebic: One left open, of course. 23:51 marktraceur mauvebic: If a report is a request for a mod, close it as invalid, and link the person to the mod requests forum. 23:51 marktraceur Alternatively, file it as a bug against minetest_game. 23:51 Uberi marktraceur: I think only the repo collabs can close issues 23:51 marktraceur Oh. 23:51 mauvebic id assume the grunt work would be taken on before the secretarial work :P 23:51 marktraceur Well, then VanessaE should hop on this! 23:51 marktraceur Maybe PilzAdam also has some ability. 23:52 VanessaE huh? 23:52 marktraceur VanessaE: Can you and others with admin on the github repo try to triage bugs in the near future? Maybe with help from some of us? 23:52 mauvebic 128,214 and 229 according to pa 23:52 VanessaE marktraceur: I don't have access to the minetest repo. 23:53 marktraceur Oh, hm 23:53 marktraceur VanessaE: Who does? 23:53 mauvebic the shadow people 23:53 VanessaE marktraceur: thexyz, pilzadam, darkrose 23:53 VanessaE and at least one other who I can't remember. 23:54 Uberi celeron55, maybe? :P 23:54 NakedFury sfan? 23:54 marktraceur Ooh, darkrose, perfect 23:54 marktraceur Someone I can bend to my^W^W^Wask for help 23:55 mauvebic shuffling the bugs around dont get anything fixed though, it just *looks* like activity 23:55 marktraceur mauvebic: It's important to triage bugs so we can e.g. assign new people to easy ones 23:55 marktraceur "hey here's this great project with awesome documentation and you should contribute" won't mean anything if there aren't any easy bugs 23:56 kaeza lol I just got that silly^Wnice joke 23:56 mauvebic its all creative inertia if no one is actually taking them on lol 23:56 marktraceur kaeza: :) 23:56 marktraceur mauvebic: Exactly. Lowering the bar for people is priority one for me right now. 23:57 Uberi marktraceur: there are some pretty infeasible feature requests in there, should be pretty easy to bring it down to about 90 open issues 23:57 marktraceur Uberi: We'll see 23:57 marktraceur Uberi: Again, my first thing is the doc sprint 23:57 Uberi of course 23:57 mauvebic true, might help to reduce our churn rate too :p 23:57 marktraceur Uberi: Maybe next week sometime for bug triage 23:58 marktraceur Uberi: If I can get interest up for a code sprint we may be able to close some bugs 23:58 Uberi a code sprint? might be a bit of a stretch 23:58 marktraceur I am stubbornly optimistic about the idea 23:59 marktraceur But it's at least two, maybe three weeks down the road 23:59 mauvebic you do cpp? 23:59 marktraceur mauvebic: In and out, yeah