Time  Nick            Message
00:01 TheZenKitteh    sdzen you in the game?
00:01 sdzen           46%
00:02 Oblivion1500    loading takes forever, whats up with that?
00:03 sdzen           lots oh crap :)
00:03 TheZenKitteh    15+MB of cache
00:03 TheZenKitteh    lol
00:03 sdzen           otherwise known as lots of crap
00:04 sdzen           hoarders: minetest edition
00:04 TheZenKitteh    well gotta have enough to play with or it can get boring
00:04 TheZenKitteh    once loaded fully its much faster each time after
00:04 TheZenKitteh    server post has a somewhat recent cache archive
00:04 Oblivion1500    well thats good
00:04 TheZenKitteh    I need to get the cache archive updated
00:05 TheZenKitteh    there's over 80 mods so yea
00:05 Oblivion1500    80!?
00:05 Oblivion1500    holt shit balls
00:05 enchilado       There are peple I know in here! Amazing
00:05 enchilado       People, even
00:06 TheZenKitteh    oh excuse me over 90
00:06 TheZenKitteh    lol
00:06 TheZenKitteh    lots of textures
00:06 sdzen           speaking of 90
00:06 Oblivion1500    damn, are there lots of structures?
00:06 sdzen           90%
00:06 Oblivion1500    69
00:07 TheZenKitteh    I still think there should be a minetest.conf option to specify a 7z archive of a cache that can be hosted somewhere with a lot of bandwidth
00:07 TheZenKitteh    could be useful since a lot of servers are run from homes
00:07 sdzen           and minetest crashed........
00:08 TheZenKitteh    I noticed the dev version likes to crash a lot for me on load
00:08 TheZenKitteh    was unsure if graphics or what
00:08 TheZenKitteh    usually a core dump involved
00:08 TheZenKitteh    usually happens after everything seems loaded and about to enter world
00:09 Oblivion1500    i hope mine doesent crash
00:09 Oblivion1500    99
00:09 TheZenKitteh    if it does you shouldn't have to redownload any extra cache
00:09 TheZenKitteh    at least I never had to
00:10 Oblivion1500    im in
00:12 NekoGloop       hello enchilado.
00:12 enchilado       Hi NekoGloop!
00:12 enchilado       Long time no see
00:14 NekoGloop       heh.
00:15 Zetetic         enchilado!
00:15 Zetetic         Are you following me?
00:16 NekoGloop       Instead of playing a hacked Super Metroid i should update my mods with the tables xD
00:17 enchilado       Zetetic: not unless I'm doing it subconciously
00:17 Zetetic         That's a yes :)
00:17 OldCoder        Backe
00:18 enchilado       I mean subconsciously, of course
00:19 Zetetic         Still a yes :þ
00:20 Oblivion1500    kaeza: are you willing to vouch for me?
00:21 kaeza           hmm
00:22 Oblivion1500    ?
00:22 Oblivion1500    hmmm
00:23 Oblivion1500    im on redcrabs server, venessa's. alot of oldcoders worlds, ext never been kicked off one
00:28 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on enchilado's head randomly as hell
00:29 enchilado       Yay kittens
00:29 NekoGloop       :3
00:29 Elench          Favouritism!
00:30 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on Elench's head too
00:30 Elench          Yay!
00:30 enchilado       colonthorn
00:30 Elench          I needed a hat
00:31 * TheZenKitteh  pets the kittens
00:31 TheZenKitteh    well time for work
00:32 TheZenKitteh    ttyl
00:40 sdzen           Oblivion!
00:40 sdzen           Ive seen you before!2
00:40 sdzen           I vouch for ya
00:41 sdzen           don't do anything stupid and I won't be forced to hunt you down and kill you
00:42 Oblivion1500    oh thanks lol i was doing some reading ha
00:43 sdzen           now what do you need vouching for?
00:43 Oblivion1500    onisamadojo.net privs on that server ha
00:44 sdzen           ahhh
00:44 sdzen           easy
00:44 sdzen           just gotta wait for RAPHAEL
00:45 Oblivion1500    ok thanks
00:55 Renoki          new update for Minetest yet?
00:56 NekoGloop       nope
00:56 Renoki          aww
01:14 mauvebic        <enchilado> colonthorn <- sounds painful
01:15 NekoGloop       indeed.
01:15 enchilado       :þ
01:38 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg random
01:38 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: World's End Dancehall (English Cover)??ham + JubyPhonic P? - YouTube
01:52 OldCoder        NEWS: We have access to the Europe MT VPS after a month. All files will be recovered.
01:52 NakedFury       that is good news
01:53 OldCoder        Yep
01:53 OldCoder        It will migrate
01:53 OldCoder        To a nice fast server
01:58 NakedFury       and backup
02:08 iqualfragile    on LOCAL hdd
02:08 marktraceur     iqualfragile: Your bot still responds to !up
02:09 marktraceur     iqualfragile: Either you or sfan5|OFF needs to back off of it
02:09 iqualfragile    well, i had it first and thexyz had disabled the !up of Minetest-tan
02:09 marktraceur     I really don't care which one is disabled
02:10 marktraceur     Figure it out amongst yourselves
02:10 marktraceur     Hands-off opping
02:10 marktraceur     Until somebody totally disregards a reasonable request, then it can be more active.
02:10 * NekoGloop     opens irc.minetest.ru to know wtf is going on
02:11 marktraceur     NekoGloop: Just reminding iqualfragile to figure out which bot gets to respond to !up
02:11 NekoGloop       Minetest-tan :P
02:11 NekoGloop       because it does it right
02:11 marktraceur     Ideally there would be exactly one bot in the channel
02:11 iqualfragile    but minetest-tan is boring
02:12 NekoGloop       minetest-tan has feelings, unlike you and your bot.
02:12 NekoGloop       ;-)
02:12 marktraceur     Define "boring"
02:12 NekoGloop       not a whole lot happened since i left before...
02:12 iqualfragile    well, actualy i would let my bot do the work but it was missuesd for spamming
02:12 iqualfragile    NekoGloop:
02:12 iqualfragile    nope
02:13 iqualfragile    how to keep a NekoGloop buisy for 1:45? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZfnsvIqsfg
02:13 moltenbot       Masters link: ???????2011?? - YouTube
02:14 NekoGloop       concert compilation of 2011?
02:14 iqualfragile    marktraceur: boring as in: just a standard python bot with some additions
02:14 iqualfragile    boring in not-hackish
02:14 marktraceur     iqualfragile: I'd prefer not hackish
02:14 iqualfragile    well… im gona publish my sources tomorow
02:15 marktraceur     iqualfragile: But I'd settle for featureful and responsive to commands
02:15 iqualfragile    i have wanted to do that anyways
02:15 marktraceur     iqualfragile: I think one of the best bots I know is wm-bot, which is just a simple bot that stores keys and values
02:16 iqualfragile    well, mine is not hackish as in unclean/unreadable code/ race-conditions or anything
02:16 marktraceur     iqualfragile: You do something like "!string is A string in the vocabulary of the project" and then !string, henceforth, will make the bot output that string.
02:16 marktraceur     That's good enough for....just about anything we need a bot for
02:16 iqualfragile    mine is hacky as in written from scratch in bash
02:16 marktraceur     Uch.
02:16 marktraceur     iqualfragile: You're not helping your case
02:16 iqualfragile    but it can implement that feature, too
02:16 iqualfragile    why?
02:16 marktraceur     Bash is just...not something you should write in, regularly
02:17 iqualfragile    its quite easy to do that in bash
02:17 iqualfragile    its not
02:17 iqualfragile    i was bored
02:17 marktraceur     So....the reason we shouldn't go with the established bot, written in a normal language, is....?
02:17 iqualfragile    and have not written anything in a while
02:17 iqualfragile    hack-value
02:17 marktraceur     That's not a reason
02:17 iqualfragile    it is
02:17 marktraceur     That's a sentiment
02:18 marktraceur     And a pretty weak one at that
02:18 iqualfragile    you wont understand opensource when you dont understand the importance of the hack value
02:18 marktraceur     Ha.
02:18 marktraceur     I don't want to understand open source, it's not a useful concept for me.
02:19 marktraceur     But the free software I work with isn't proud of being written in a bad language. It works to re-factor into a better language.
02:19 iqualfragile    its not? well, you sounded quite different lately
02:19 iqualfragile    oh… picking words here?
02:19 marktraceur     That's how language works, yeah.
02:20 marktraceur     I choose some words to use in order to convey meaning to others.
02:21 mrtux           What happened to default:sign?
02:21 mrtux           I miss it ;_;
02:21 marktraceur     There are still signs
02:21 mrtux           yeah
02:21 mrtux           the signs mod
02:21 mrtux           the letters are very hard to read
02:22 Gambit          you're looking for an IRC bot?
02:22 marktraceur     mrtux: default:sign_wall
02:22 mrtux           ah
02:22 marktraceur     Gambit: We have two, we don't need another :)
02:22 marktraceur     Gambit: But thanks, if we decide that these two are both crap, we may ask you
02:23 NakedFury       XD
02:23 Gambit          hehe
02:23 NekoGloop       janebot would need a slight bit of alterations and additions, none of which should be too hard.
02:23 NakedFury       a good bot should be able to answer the question: Who am I?   bot: I'm Batman.
02:24 NekoGloop       Botman*
02:24 NekoGloop       ;-)
02:24 Gambit          Janebot used to be hooked up to a cool AI my friend wrote that could parse an answer questions smartassedly.
02:25 Gambit          But the useful features that actually matter to FOSS projects are bug tracker lookups, and forum/twitter polling.
02:25 iqualfragile    marktraceur: im not realy in the mood for this discussion right now, i had too less sleep lately, lets talk about it tomorrow when im awake again
02:25 NekoGloop       Currently is also good for op-kick-deop in one command too.
02:25 NekoGloop       That way y'all dont need to keep yourselfs op'd all the time
02:27 enchilado       OMG hi Gambit
02:27 NekoGloop       xD
02:27 Gambit          Oh by the way. This is enchilado. If he causes trouble, let me know and we'll ban him forever from #minecraft. :D
02:28 enchilado       Oh by the way. This is Gambit. If he causes trouble, let me know and we'll ban him forever from #minecraft. :D
02:28 Gambit          01-11 19:31:31| <enchilado> I feel like trolling #minetest
02:28 Gambit          You should just ban him now.
02:29 * NekoGloop     punts a kitten at enchilado
02:29 NekoGloop       :D
02:29 * enchilado     eats it
02:29 NekoGloop       xD
02:30 mauvebic        today's penalty its hot candle wax on one's nether regions
02:30 Gambit          Kinky.
02:30 marktraceur     enchilado: Why would you troll #minetest? Seems a little mean.
02:30 enchilado       marktraceur: I wouldn't
02:30 enchilado       Gambit is quoting out of context
02:31 * VanessaE      peeks in...
02:31 VanessaE        jeez, I turn away from here for a few hours and the whole network goes nuts.
02:31 VanessaE        :)
02:32 NekoGloop       yup
02:32 NekoGloop       #minecraft is invad- i mean visiting.
02:33 VanessaE        we must be causing a bigger prob^W^W^W^Wmaking a bigger impact than I thought.
02:33 VanessaE        ;)
02:33 NekoGloop       xD
02:33 NekoGloop       now now,
02:33 mauvebic        those who would spam other channels are without honour
02:34 Gambit          Yeah enchilado stop spamming.
02:34 mauvebic        lol
02:34 NekoGloop       this ^
02:34 enchilado       I spammed?
02:34 mauvebic        i was talking about him tho lol
02:35 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on enchilado and Gambit's heads
02:35 NekoGloop       Now c'mon, at least let it be minetesters vs minecrafters instead of fighting amongst yourselfs.
02:35 NekoGloop       hello Nikondork.
02:35 Nikondork       hello neko
02:36 mauvebic        they do that too? lol
02:36 Nikondork       or we could just peacefully coexist
02:36 NekoGloop       that too.
02:36 enchilado       What Nikondork said
02:36 Gambit          I will never coexist with enchilado.
02:37 NekoGloop       xD
02:37 Gambit          Death to those named after latin american foods!
02:37 Gambit          No but uh I think tomorrow I'll try Minetest again :)
02:38 enchilado       Minecraft and Minetest are different games; there's no reason people should play only one or the other
02:38 Nikondork       you have been pardoned on #minecraft, NekoGloop
02:38 Gambit          enchilado: that's not what you said in December.
02:38 Gambit          :D
02:38 enchilado       By which I mean: you don't have to be either a Minetester or a Minecrafter
02:38 enchilado       Gambit: it is not.
02:38 enchilado       Er...
02:38 enchilado       No, it's not what I said, but I never said anything to the contrary either.
02:39 NekoGloop       Nikondork: == #minecraft Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
02:39 Nikondork       hrm
02:39 NekoGloop       try unbanning my IP AND nick, since y'all banned both.
02:39 Nikondork       hold pls
02:40 Nikondork       NekoGloop: try now
02:41 kaeza           o hai all
02:47 kaeza           aaaaaaaaaargh http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=3949
02:47 moltenbot       kaeza's link: chase programer's profile - Minetest Forums
02:47 kaeza           ooop
02:47 kaeza           +s
02:47 kaeza           wrong link
02:47 kaeza           http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63336#p63336
02:47 moltenbot       kaeza's link: SPRAY paint mod (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
03:06 iqualfragile    enchilado: yes they are, to the greatest part
03:07 iqualfragile    dirt was changed a ibt
03:07 NekoGloop       um...
03:07 NekoGloop       does anyone have any idea what he's saying?
03:08 enchilado       I asked a question in #minetest-dev, but that wasn't the appropriate channel so he answered here
03:08 NekoGloop       ohright.
03:09 NekoGloop       that channel that i never bother joining.
03:09 enchilado       iqualfragile: okay, thanks
03:09 enchilado       Hrm
03:10 iqualfragile    !date
03:10 moltenbot       Sa 12. Jan 04:10:33 CET 2013
03:10 iqualfragile    time to go to bed
03:10 enchilado       The textures could be better
03:10 iqualfragile    improve them
03:10 NekoGloop       enchilado: Since the version cited there I have personally upgraded the orelumps and ingots.
03:10 NekoGloop       ;-)
03:11 iqualfragile    yaay, nearly all of my torrents have a ratio greater then one!
03:11 NekoGloop       And if I'm not utterly mistaken then there should also be other changes
03:11 NekoGloop       However the images shown in that image are, indeed, up to date.
03:11 NekoGloop       Also, enchilado, if you think they suck then why dont you try to do better ;-)
03:12 iqualfragile    ( i have changed grass on my server because i think it looked repetative
03:12 iqualfragile    )
03:12 enchilado       iqualfragile: yes, I was going to ask whether I might be able to help with that, and if so, how I would go about it
03:12 enchilado       Oh, he left
03:12 NekoGloop       xD
03:12 enchilado       NekoGloop: I could easily do better
03:13 NekoGloop       enchilado: well you could pull request to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ with better textures ;-)
03:13 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:13 NekoGloop       https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/cd604fa9c864160a6276b7fcf483a157ae339611 C'mon, if i could do it then you sure as hell can.
03:13 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: Better lump & ingot textures ?  cd604fa ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:14 enchilado       Those aren't better
03:14 NekoGloop       better than the ones that only used three colors.
03:14 enchilado       How many do yours use?
03:15 NekoGloop       somewhere closer to 20-30
03:15 enchilado       What the hell?
03:15 enchilado       In a 16*16 image?
03:15 NekoGloop       I'm good.
03:15 enchilado       No, I'm shocked.
03:16 enchilado       You should only need about four colours for something like that.
03:16 NekoGloop       idk, would take too long to count
03:16 NekoGloop       Well it looks a lot better
03:16 NekoGloop       and the orelumps are centered in the image
03:16 enchilado       It doesn't
03:16 NekoGloop       and the ingot is 16*16 instead of 16*17 >.>
03:17 enchilado       The shading is terrible, but it's nothing to do with the amount of colours used
03:17 NekoGloop       *sigh*
03:18 enchilado       The ingots in my Minecraft texture pack use 6 shades including the outline
03:18 NekoGloop       what you dont understand is that we dont want to look like a minecraft clone
03:18 NekoGloop       minetest is its own game.
03:18 NekoGloop       it should both feel and look like an entirely different game.
03:18 enchilado       Having ugly icons is going to make you look more like a Minecraft clone.
03:19 NekoGloop       and you propose that the old ones looked better?
03:19 enchilado       They're both so bad that it's hard to compare them.
03:20 NekoGloop       If you can do better, then by all means, do so.
03:21 sdzen           wait....
03:21 sdzen           new icon?
03:21 sdzen           where?
03:21 NekoGloop       sdzen: my orelump and ingots.
03:22 enchilado       NekoGloop: this is how I would start http://i.imgur.com/CpUGi.png
03:22 NekoGloop       Then by all means pull request it
03:22 sdzen           I dont like the ingot
03:22 sdzen           :P
03:22 sdzen           neko
03:22 enchilado       Well, that took about five seconds not including making the background white and resizing it
03:22 NekoGloop       sdzen: nobody does.
03:23 sdzen           :P
03:23 NekoGloop       enchilado: why did you make the background white
03:23 enchilado       Ideally I would spend a little longer than that
03:23 sdzen           ms paint man anyone?
03:23 NekoGloop       I dont think he uses windows xD
03:23 enchilado       NekoGloop: because if I CTRL+V an image with a transparent background into imgur it makes it black
03:23 sdzen           ahem
03:23 NekoGloop       enchilado: then upload it right.
03:23 sdzen           then dont use imgur
03:23 NakedFury       did you manually make the lighter and darker tones in that small image?
03:24 enchilado       NekoGloop: I do use Windows.
03:24 NekoGloop       awesome.
03:24 NakedFury       for a quick example it looks good and not crappy
03:24 enchilado       sdzen: what image hosting site would you recommend?
03:24 NekoGloop       enchilado: easy: omploader
03:24 sdzen           imageshack.us and ompldr.org are nice
03:24 sdzen           mediafire in a pinch
03:24 NekoGloop       mediafire is bad and you should feel bad.
03:24 NekoGloop       jk.
03:25 enchilado       Imageshack? Over imgur?
03:25 sdzen           yes
03:25 enchilado       Are you being serious right now?
03:25 NekoGloop       enchilado: omploader :P
03:25 NekoGloop       OMPLADOER
03:25 NekoGloop       wow my spelling.
03:25 sdzen           never go wroung with the omp
03:25 enchilado       I'm unsure what the problem with imgur is
03:25 sdzen           if you do then your a trad
03:25 enchilado       Transparency works fine if I upload it from a file, it only converts to blackness when I paste it.
03:25 NekoGloop       enchilado: the problem is that you have to make images not have transparent BG's.
03:26 sdzen           then dont paste
03:26 kaeza           jojoa1997, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63355#p63355
03:26 moltenbot       kaeza's link: PvP Survival Games (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
03:26 kaeza           and hi :)
03:26 enchilado       sdzen: why did it need to have a transparent background?
03:26 jojoa1997       kaeza:hi
03:27 NekoGloop       enchilado: because download directly and use immediately
03:27 sdzen           cause minetest likes them
03:27 NekoGloop       and also less to draw when loading the image
03:27 NekoGloop       and also you should upsize to 128*128, then we can really see it ;)
03:27 sdzen           i like his lump
03:27 sdzen           its nice
03:28 enchilado       I wasn't proposing that image should be used; that was a quick example of how to improve the shading a little
03:28 sdzen           mine are better!
03:28 sdzen           and nobody will ever get them!
03:28 sdzen           :P
03:28 NekoGloop       yeah fine
03:28 NekoGloop       obviously anything i make is shit and shouldnt have ever existed.
03:28 NekoGloop       :P
03:29 * sdzen         smacks neko with a fish
03:29 mrtux           I need help with worldedit
03:29 sdzen           not true
03:29 mrtux           it never works for me
03:29 kaeza           mrtux, ?
03:29 mrtux           I do //pos1
03:29 mrtux           then //pos2
03:29 mrtux           then //metasave building
03:29 mrtux           and it never gives me what I want
03:29 NakedFury       /p set
03:30 NakedFury       I use that
03:30 * NekoGloop     is smacked with a fish
03:30 mrtux           I don't get why it doesn't work
03:30 NekoGloop       ow.
03:30 NakedFury       .//p set then //save name
03:30 NakedFury       are you in a server?
03:31 sdzen           the save and load never work right for big things btw
03:31 mrtux           yeah
03:31 mrtux           ah
03:31 mrtux           it is a big thing
03:31 NakedFury       try saving it in parts
03:31 sdzen           that is a bit advanced though
03:31 jojoa1997       kaeza: for the feel of a hunger games mod watch some videos from here and see what they do http://www.youtube.com/user/MinecraftFinest/videos?query=hunger+games
03:31 moltenbot       jojoa1997's link: MinecraftFinest's Channel - YouTube
03:31 sdzen           he will need perfect positioning on it
03:32 jojoa1997       for example they can only dig food and leaves but can get stuff out of chests.
03:32 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on sdzen's head
03:32 mrtux           >75 nodes saved
03:32 mrtux           uh
03:32 enchilado       Were I going to spend a little more time on the icon
03:32 jojoa1997       also there is a game restarter so when a hunger game is over there is an automatic restart
03:33 jojoa1997       i know some of this is advanced but the no digging
03:33 * sdzen         asks the kitten if he enjoys heads
03:33 enchilado       It'd probably look something more like this http://i.imgur.com/IY8Ku.png
03:33 jojoa1997       but leaves and n apple would be a good start
03:33 sdzen           rollback!
03:33 sdzen           an altercation of that is easy
03:34 jojoa1997       kaeza: can i make a new group definition by using this "minetest.register_group({spleef})"
03:34 NekoGloop       enchilado: pull request. now.
03:34 jojoa1997       oh yeah'
03:34 sdzen           hmmmm
03:34 jojoa1997       sdzen what about having a point system
03:35 sdzen           ive used the spleef group before
03:35 jojoa1997       oh good
03:35 enchilado       NekoGloop: where can I get the full set of textures?
03:35 sdzen           I don't actually think you need to define groups
03:35 sdzen           just make sure they are in the node and tool registry
03:35 NekoGloop       enchilado: download https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/ using the "clone in windows" button
03:35 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
03:35 NekoGloop       yes you'll have to download and install github for windows
03:36 NekoGloop       and get a github account.
03:38 enchilado       NekoGloop: or just $ git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git ...?
03:38 NekoGloop       you need some kind of git protocols installed, but if you do have those then by all means do so.
03:39 enchilado       I hate git
03:39 enchilado       Err
03:39 enchilado       I have*
03:39 enchilado       I love git :P
03:40 NekoGloop       well we all hate git ;-)
03:40 NekoGloop       anyway, go ahead and do that.
03:42 kaeza           jojoa1997, so basically, it's a one-life match
03:42 kaeza           you die you are out?
03:42 enchilado       I'll have a look at some of these other textures a bit later on
03:43 jojoa1997       yeah but there is alot more
03:44 jojoa1997       the matches do restart automatically
03:44 jojoa1997       there are deathmatches where players fight at spawn
03:44 jojoa1997       chests refill after night on there own (so rollback cant be used for the entire server)
03:45 jojoa1997       yeah and there is more subtle stuff that i cant remember from the top of my head
03:47 kaeza           jojoa1997, I'm have that in mind, but that will have to wait until tomorrow
03:47 kaeza           I'll *
03:48 jojoa1997       ok
03:48 jojoa1997       oh and anyone who is intrested i am almost done with my spleef arena mod
03:51 kaeza           see you everyone, I'm off to bed
03:51 TheZenKitteh    Oblivion1500.. you around?
03:52 TheZenKitteh    k cya kaeza
03:52 Oblivion1500    yes i am
04:01 OldCoder        I updated glooptest but I am still getting
04:02 OldCoder        19:59:57: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "glooptest_tool_arolpick.png"
04:02 OldCoder        And similar errors
04:41 TheZenKitteh    OldCoder you sure the images exist?
04:56 OldCoder        TheZenKitteh, oddly I seem to have misplaced the errors so never mind for now and ty
04:56 OldCoder        NEWS Shutting down my worlds for backups and updates. Mod requests or suggestions welcome now
04:56 TheZenKitteh    I suggest my mods but im a little biased
04:56 TheZenKitteh    lol
05:18 NekoGloop       meow?
05:27 Oblivion1500    mooo
05:42 TheZenKitteh    woof
05:42 enchilado       baa
05:44 TheZenKitteh    am I the only minetest player that ends up with huge amounts of every material available?
05:44 TheZenKitteh    I have several thousand blocks of sand and glass
05:44 TheZenKitteh    as well as clay
05:44 TheZenKitteh    lol
05:45 * TheZenKitteh  strip mined a large beach area
05:47 NekoGloop       You dont have a lot of anything
05:47 NekoGloop       until you have an inventory FULL of talinite blocks.
05:48 TheZenKitteh    talinite?
05:49 NekoGloop       Yes talinite
05:49 NekoGloop       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4345
05:49 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: [ModPack][0.0.3] GloopTest Pack! [glooptest] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
05:49 TheZenKitteh    lol not tried that mod yet
05:50 NekoGloop       DO EEEEEEEET
05:50 TheZenKitteh    do ET?
05:50 TheZenKitteh    but ET will phone home and ill get my backside beat by some aliens
05:50 NekoGloop       xD
05:51 NekoGloop       no, do "eeeeeeeet"
05:51 TheZenKitteh    eeeeeeeeeeee t phone home?
05:51 TheZenKitteh    lol
05:52 Oblivion1500    what programs do you guys use to edit or add textures?
05:52 enchilado       GIMP
05:52 NekoGloop       Game Maker
05:52 NekoGloop       ;-)
05:52 enchilado       NekoGloop: whut
05:52 NekoGloop       enchilado: no, seriously.
05:52 TheZenKitteh    gimp
05:53 NekoGloop       i use game maker for texture making
05:53 NekoGloop       because fuck logic
05:53 Oblivion1500    lol nice
05:53 TheZenKitteh    long ago I liked paintshop pro.. then I said fek it and learned gimp.. too bad I still suck at making textures
05:53 TheZenKitteh    lol
05:54 NekoGloop       I used game maker 8.0 LITE EDITION to make the iron ingot you can see in upstream now.
05:54 enchilado       It's not really terribly difficult to make decent textures
05:55 TheZenKitteh    enchilado have you seen my textures I've made myself? lol
05:55 enchilado       I'm not saying you can do it straight off
05:55 TheZenKitteh    I will say im far better at pencil drawing
05:55 enchilado       But if you put a little effort into learning, you will get much better.
05:55 TheZenKitteh    I have considered doing a pencil drawing texture pack
05:56 TheZenKitteh    pencil draw all the textures, scan, resize and such
05:56 TheZenKitteh    lol
05:56 TheZenKitteh    might be interesting
05:56 enchilado       When I compare my pixel art from three or four years ago to my current stuff...
05:56 enchilado       TheZenKitteh: no.
05:56 enchilado       Don't do that.
05:56 Oblivion1500    TheZenKitteh: OMG DO IT
05:56 enchilado       You really, really, really need to draw low-res textures at their final size.
05:57 enchilado       With such a small canvas, you need to make sure every pixel is doing exactly the right thing.
05:57 NakedFury       scaling down just makes them blurry
05:57 Oblivion1500    and get a magnifying glass lol
05:57 TheZenKitteh    im aware of that enchilado.. however im not good at visualizing such tiny textures in my head
05:57 TheZenKitteh    64x64 is about as small as I can visualize currently
05:57 enchilado       I don't visualise things in my head before I draw them
05:57 enchilado       Also, remember that you're going to have to stylise
05:57 enchilado       You can't draw a realistic 16*16 texture
05:58 NakedFury       no such thing as realistic 16x
05:58 Oblivion1500    you can if you get graph paper
05:58 NekoGloop       enchilado: VanessaE would have some hell to put you through
05:58 enchilado       NekoGloop: why?
05:58 NekoGloop       because she did so
05:58 enchilado       No, she didn't. It's not possible.
05:59 Oblivion1500    she did and they look very well done
05:59 NakedFury       realistic are 128x and higher
05:59 enchilado       Can anyone provide me with a link?
05:59 Oblivion1500    give me a sec to find it
06:00 Oblivion1500    http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583
06:00 moltenbot       Oblivion1500's link: HDX Textures (16 - 512 px) [2012-12-30] (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums
06:00 NekoGloop       It's not all downsized to 16px, mind you
06:01 NekoGloop       most images are though
06:01 enchilado       No screenshots of the 16x version?
06:02 Oblivion1500    just look in the github link
06:02 NekoGloop       mind you, not all of the pack is downsized
06:03 enchilado       Without meaning any offence, I would not describe these textures as either realistic or very well done.
06:04 Oblivion1500    well, what do you got?
06:04 NekoGloop       >without meaning any offence
06:04 NekoGloop       >is enchilado
06:04 NekoGloop       what is this i dont even
06:04 enchilado       NekoGloop: er - what?
06:04 enchilado       I'm unsure what you're trying to say there.
06:04 Oblivion1500    so am i
06:05 NakedFury       he can say that without sounding mean
06:05 NekoGloop       And i have no idea what NF just said
06:05 Oblivion1500    what were we talking about agin?
06:05 Oblivion1500    again*
06:05 * VanessaE      peeks in for a sec
06:06 Oblivion1500    shhhh shes here
06:06 enchilado       NekoGloop: most of these icons seem to be 64*64, not 16*16...
06:06 NekoGloop       enchilado: as i said it's not all downsized
06:06 NekoGloop       AND STOP DFSABNFJKDSALFDSA CALLING THEM ICONS
06:06 NekoGloop       THEY ARE TEXTURES
06:06 Oblivion1500    hahaha
06:06 enchilado       In what way are they not icons?
06:07 NekoGloop       enchilado: in the sense that icons are the images that appear in folders when looking at files.
06:07 Oblivion1500    they arnt used to be put next to our names in the forums
06:07 VanessaE        enchilado: in the 16px size, I opted for 64px for the various items that are meant only for display in the player's inventory, so that they more or less match the apparent resolution of other objects such as cubes.
06:07 VanessaE        everything else is 16px.
06:07 VanessaE        if it is meant to be part of the actual world, i.e. something you build with, it's 16px.
06:08 enchilado       VanessaE: sure, but in that case referring to your texture pack as an example of realistic 16x icons is somewhat invalid.
06:09 NekoGloop       >icons
06:09 NekoGloop       please remove this person from my sight.
06:09 enchilado       < enchilado> In what way are they not icons?
06:09 enchilado       < NekoGloop> *silence*
06:09 NekoGloop       enchilado: no, you just cant read
06:10 TheZenKitteh    lol
06:10 * TheZenKitteh  sits down to watch the brawl
06:10 VanessaE        enchilado: they're as realistic as you can get for 16px.  I challenge anyone to make it more realistic at that size.  Besides, if you don't like 16px, use one of the other sizes.  Minetest natively supports any size you want to throw at it, limited only by your hardware (e.g. video card, RAM)
06:10 VanessaE        can someone make them "better"?  possibly.  more realistic?  I doubt it.
06:10 enchilado       VanessaE: but as you jut said, they're 64x64, not 16*16...
06:11 VanessaE        enchilado: no, I said, and I quote:  if it is meant to be part of the actual world, i.e. something you build with, it's 16px.
06:11 enchilado       Just, rather.
06:11 Oblivion1500    ...............
06:11 VanessaE        the 64px textures are only for items in the inventory/crafting display, not inside the world.
06:11 VanessaE        in Minetest, there is a distinction between these:  inventory image, wield image, and in-world texture ("tiles")
06:12 enchilado       I had inventory images in mind.
06:12 Oblivion1500    so anyone else looking at your damn house will see 16 px
06:13 VanessaE        yes.  But inventory images are only used in the inventory, not in the world, and they are only 64px in these packs because the game renders things like cubes, shaped objects ("nodeboxes"), models, etc at a much higher resolution that the 16px textures they are painted with.
06:13 Oblivion1500    why would you have that in mind.. i was asking what people used to edit/add textures
06:13 VanessaE        so I used 64px in the inventory to match the apparent rendering resolution of those objects.  Had I not done so, they would have looked horribly mismatched.
06:14 NekoGloop       Oblivion1500: that was answered a LONG time ago...
06:14 VanessaE        Oblivion1500: Inkscape for some of the renderings, GIMP for everything else.
06:14 Oblivion1500    well NekoGloop: she just answered my question lol
06:14 Oblivion1500    you all answered it long ago
06:15 enchilado       VanessaE: and? That still doesn't make it an example of realistic 16x item sprites.
06:15 VanessaE        hey, I'm late to the party, I get to answer redundantly if I want to :-)
06:15 Oblivion1500    lol
06:15 VanessaE        enchilado: they could just as easily have been done at 16px.  I just chose not to.  No other reason.
06:16 VanessaE        but then, they'd look like crap in the inventory, which is where they are seen 99% of the time.
06:16 enchilado       Yes, they'd look like crap in the inventory. Which is rather my point.
06:17 Oblivion1500    GAMES ARNT REAL! TheZenKitteh: make your drawings 64 px and VanessaE: good job with all the textures you must have put alot of time into them
06:18 enchilado       NekoGloop: eh, true, I somehow read that line and then forgot I read it.
06:18 TheZenKitteh    im using the majority of vanessaes textures on the dtamedia server. only a few I wasn't fond of and didn't use lol
06:18 enchilado       NekoGloop: I...
06:18 enchilado       So...
06:19 VanessaE        enchilado: which is the case using any texture pack, on any game, and on any platform you care to name.  If your inventory/HUD/etc. display's textures are low-resolution, they will look like crap next to any standard 3D renderings that appear on that same display.
06:19 enchilado       No, I'm still not getting it. In what way are they not icons?
06:19 TheZenKitteh    textures to me are like tiny little expressions of art so make them as you want. someone will like them and someone will hate them
06:20 enchilado       VanessaE: why are you telling me things that are obvious and irrelevant?
06:20 VanessaE        enchilado: because you are making the same comparison here, making your entire argument about the resolution of the inventory textures invalid.
06:21 enchilado       VanessaE: do you understand what my argument is?
06:21 VanessaE        enchilado: I guess not.
06:22 enchilado       I never mentioned your texture pack initially; I had never heard of it. I simply stated that 16x icons will not look realistic, and someone said that they were in your texture pack.
06:22 VanessaE        meh.
06:23 NekoGloop       when you dont use the right terminology, everyone is going to assume you mean a general form instead.
06:23 NekoGloop       I wonder if gambit got around to playing minetest
06:23 enchilado       NekoGloop: why isn't it the right terminology?
06:23 NekoGloop       enchilado: because you could mean any number of things by "icon"
06:23 enchilado       Surely it's just as accurate and less ambiguous to refer to item sprites as icons rather than textures?
06:24 NekoGloop       while you actually meant what is known as an "inventory image"
06:24 enchilado       NekoGloop: what other icons are there in Minetest?
06:24 NekoGloop       enchilado: "wield images" and "node tiles"
06:25 enchilado       How on earth are they icons?
06:25 NekoGloop       because kittens
06:25 NekoGloop       your arguement is invalid
06:25 NekoGloop       good night
06:25 enchilado       'Night.
06:26 VanessaE        the reason being, you can give an inventory image to an object without that image being what the object appears as in the world - even if it's dropped.
06:26 TheZenKitteh    lol kittens
06:27 Oblivion1500    you also can make real life things look 16px if you want.. and they are real
06:27 enchilado       If it's the texture used for a block or an item held in the hand, it's not an icon...
06:27 enchilado       Or a tile, or whatever.
06:27 enchilado       Oblivion1500: well, no.
06:28 VanessaE        enchilado: that's just it - all three texture declarations can be given for any node you want.
06:28 Oblivion1500    uhm?
06:28 VanessaE        that's why we don't use "icon" to describe them, because in some instances, it's the wrong word entirely.
06:29 enchilado       If you resize a photograph of an apple to 16*16, it's been severely manipulated. It's not really "real" any more, and it's certainly not going to look it when you view it at 32x32.
06:29 TheZenKitteh    why not just do as nekogloop would likely suggest and call them kittens.. problem solved
06:29 Oblivion1500    well if you get blocks and put them together to look like an apple that is a real redering of an apple
06:30 enchilado       VanessaE: but I was referring to the image that is shown in the inventory, which is surely an icon.
06:30 TheZenKitteh    16x16 kittens
06:30 TheZenKitteh    lol
06:30 VanessaE        enchilado: not always.  Sometimes the inventory image is actually one side of the cube you place in the world.
06:30 VanessaE        literally, the same filename used on one of the cube's sides is occasionally seen being used as the inventory image also.
06:31 enchilado       Why does that change it being an icon when displayed in the inventory?
06:32 Oblivion1500    cause thats called an inventory image
06:32 VanessaE        because the file in question will have been explicitly intended as one of the cube's sides, not as the inventory texture - when a modder gets lazy or doesn't understand how textures work, they may sometimes also specify the same exact file to be used in the inventory image.
06:33 TheZenKitteh    vanessae or when they suck at making textures like me
06:33 TheZenKitteh    lol
06:33 * TheZenKitteh  looks at code.. good nuff
06:33 VanessaE        I seem to recall that early versions of minetest did that anyway - some cube objects appeared as flat square images in the inventory, even though the image being shown was not in fact an inventory image.
06:34 VanessaE        if not, certainly many early mods did.
06:35 OldCoder        NEWS My worlds restarted. Only minor changes. VanessaE world demo updated.
06:36 enchilado       VanessaE: I still don't understand why it would be an "inventory image" but not an "icon", but okay.
06:38 VanessaE        the terminology matters because that's how you program mods for the game.
06:39 VanessaE        it's like saying cout is really print().  They may act the same, but if you get them wrong, they just won't work.  Same with modding the game - use the wrong terminology inside the mod and you have no hope of making it work right.
06:39 VanessaE        (even if you have the Lua skills of the entire Minetest community combined)
06:40 Oblivion1500    count = print
06:40 Oblivion1500    now they are the same
06:40 VanessaE        heh
06:42 enchilado       I'm afraid your analogy has little meaning for me as I am an artist, not a programmer, but I suppose I understand.
06:42 VanessaE        that's why we're so insistent on the correct terminology here.
06:42 VanessaE        most of us are also modders. :-)
06:43 enchilado       However, I don't see my error as being grave enough--particularly since I was not referring to the creation of any mod, but simply to inventory images in a very general way--to cause such an extreme reaction as NekoGloop had
06:43 enchilado       I did not even mean Minetest images in particular
06:44 VanessaE        well see,
06:44 VanessaE        Minetest's game content is *also* a mod.
06:44 VanessaE        literally.
06:44 VanessaE        if you took away all of the mods, both built-in and third-party, I think about all you'll get is ...  just air?  I forget exactly where the line is drawn.
06:45 enchilado       I figured that from the way the files were organised.
06:45 enchilado       With "default" being in the "mods" folder, I mean.
06:45 Oblivion1500    no
06:45 Oblivion1500    that is the default folder
06:45 enchilado       Er, well
06:46 Oblivion1500    mods can go in two places
06:46 enchilado       Oh?
06:46 Oblivion1500    in a certan world or in your entire client
06:46 enchilado       Anyway to correct what I said before, I suppose there are other mods in there by default as well
06:46 sfan5           mods/minetest worlds/poop/worldmods game/minetest_game/mods
06:46 sfan5           3 places
06:46 sfan5           but the last is only for built-in mods
06:46 enchilado       Oblivion1500: hmm, okay
06:47 enchilado       Oblivion1500: but the default game data is still stored in a folder called "mods"
06:47 Oblivion1500    yes
06:47 Oblivion1500    like stuff that comes packaged with your game
06:48 Oblivion1500    that is like basic do crap and textures that come with the game, alot of mods depend on those mods
06:48 VanessaE        yes, there are other included mods - about 10 of them, give or take.  "default" is just one of them.
06:48 Oblivion1500    sfan5: of corse
06:49 enchilado       I'm not sure how being able to install mods for a certain world contradicts what I said about why I assume the default game was a mod, though.
06:49 enchilado       Assumed, I mean.
06:50 VanessaE        no contradiction there.  Just another distinction is all.
06:51 enchilado       06.45.33 < Oblivion1500> no
06:51 enchilado       I thought that by that he meant to contradict me.
06:51 TheZenKitteh    at least we have mods. I remember when minetest didn't have mods lol
06:52 Oblivion1500    i thought you were talking about the default mod
06:52 Oblivion1500    being the folder for all your mods
06:52 Oblivion1500    i read what you said wrong
06:53 Oblivion1500    i read With "default" being the "mods" folder, I mean.
06:57 enchilado       Ah
07:00 VanessaE        jeez, 22.8C in here and I'm burning up.
07:01 Oblivion1500    see i may be oblivious but i do beleave in a little humility
07:02 Oblivion1500    VanessaE: thats pretty warm
07:02 Oblivion1500    were are you from?
07:03 VanessaE        I'm used to about 2 degrees cooler than this.  damn computers are heating up the room today something terrible.
07:03 VanessaE        I'm in the US actually.
07:03 VanessaE        Western NC.
07:03 Oblivion1500    me too,
07:03 Oblivion1500    im in FL
07:04 Oblivion1500    i still have to have my house at like 68 - 70 F
07:04 NakedFury       why was celsius created as a unit? was fahrenheit not enough?
07:05 Oblivion1500    i guess not, why do we have ants?
07:06 NakedFury       what?
07:07 Oblivion1500    I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION YOU ANSWER MINE
07:07 enchilado       NakedFury: because fahrenheit makes no sense
07:07 Oblivion1500    why is that?
07:08 Elench          Neither does Celsius
07:08 NakedFury       should have been replaced sooner so as not to confuse people
07:08 NakedFury       same stuff as the feet and centimeter stuff
07:08 VanessaE        Celsius makes sense if you think of it by its other name, Centigrade.
07:08 Elench          Not really
07:08 Elench          Still has a false zero
07:09 enchilado       Elench: it's nicely based on water's freezing and boiling points and has the same magnitude as kelvin, which is nice.
07:09 VanessaE        100 degrees from freezing to boiling for pure water at standard atmospheric pressure
07:09 VanessaE        seems pretty straightforward to me.
07:09 NakedFury       fahrenheit worked fine until some bighead genius decided to change it to celsius
07:09 enchilado       I just used "nice" twice. Ugh.
07:09 enchilado       Or is it melting point? I can never remember.
07:09 Elench          Melting I think
07:10 NakedFury       0 °C was defined as the freezing point of water and 100 °C was defined as the boiling point of water
07:11 sfan5           !sh v.gd https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/5f1fb56b8b02ec17f76f86b6e770ea8ad87fc68e
07:11 Minetest-tan    sfan5: http://v.gd/mBRzlN
07:11 moltenbot       sfan5's link: Rename //dig to //fixlight ?  5f1fb56 ? Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit ? GitHub
07:13 enchilado       Why double slashes?
07:13 sfan5           because its worldedit?
07:13 enchilado       Uhrm... and?
07:14 sfan5           minecraft's worldedit also uses //
07:15 enchilado       Okay
07:15 enchilado       But I don't know why it does either, and why should the Minetest one do the same?
07:16 enchilado       (Is it made by the same person?)
07:16 sfan5           !sh is.gd https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/6f3127f32e6d51d25f36e57c6fea7a7fb9de73fb
07:16 Minetest-tan    sfan5: http://is.gd/IyQzbX
07:16 moltenbot       sfan5's link: Fix Code ?  6f3127f ? Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit ? GitHub
07:17 sfan5           enchilado: no
07:17 NakedFury       was that # extra symbol a code breaking bug or a nothing happens I just misplaced # here error?
07:18 sfan5           misplaced
07:18 sfan5           i also wrote if node.name == "air":  <- lua uses no :
07:18 sfan5           i coded too much python
07:19 NakedFury       fix the fixed code then
07:24 NakedFury       I never saw this suppress command
07:25 NakedFury       what does it do?
07:26 sfan5           description = "Suppress all <node> in the current WorldEdit region non-destructively",
07:30 RealBadAngel    NakedFury, actually 0 deg in celsius scale is defined at ice melting point
07:30 NakedFury       that was copy pasted from wikipedia
07:30 RealBadAngel    which is the same but still
07:30 NakedFury       and search is not giving me worldedit topic which is weird
07:31 NakedFury       ok had to separate world and edit
07:32 NakedFury       ok sfan I will suggest a good editing of the original post for WE
07:32 NakedFury       with all the new commands
07:32 NakedFury       like suppress and fixlight
08:15 OldCoder        howdy
08:24 TheZenKitteh    moo
08:25 Zetetic         Hru-hru :@)
08:25 TheZenKitteh    hey Zetetic
08:25 TheZenKitteh    hey OldCoder
08:26 OldCoder        Hi!
08:26 OldCoder        Moo
08:26 OldCoder        TheZenKitteh, howdy
08:27 TheZenKitteh    when did gambit enter?
08:27 * TheZenKitteh  doesn't recall them entering.. same with hmmm
08:27 TheZenKitteh    hmmmm*
08:27 OldCoder        TheZenKitteh, he has been around for a day or two
08:27 TheZenKitteh    lurkers
08:27 OldCoder        MC Ambassador
08:27 TheZenKitteh    or spies
08:27 OldCoder        >.>
08:27 TheZenKitteh    lol spies
08:27 OldCoder        !
08:28 VanessaE        heh
08:28 TheZenKitteh    probably trying to steal our precious secrets mwuahahahaa
08:28 TheZenKitteh    lol
08:29 TheZenKitteh    I can tell im getting tired. im beginning to get retarded
08:30 TheZenKitteh    o my
08:30 TheZenKitteh    http://www.slashgear.com/users-advised-to-disable-java-due-to-security-weakness-11265030/
08:30 moltenbot       TheZenKitteh's link: Users advised to disable Java due to security weakness - SlashGear
08:33 TheZenKitteh    "Oracle has stated that it will release a patch for the issue on January 15 that will fix 86 security vulnerabilities. "
08:34 Oblivion1500    Java plug-ins on Firefox are now blocked from auto-loading unless the user manually authorizes it.
08:34 Oblivion1500    thats good news for me
08:35 TheZenKitteh    im "fairly sure" that most trying to use such security vulnerabilities are targeting Windows
08:36 Oblivion1500    yea if i was fully sure i would be happy with the change and had a cd r laying around i would probably find myself a nice linux os
08:37 Oblivion1500    its so hard to deside witch one though....
08:38 TheZenKitteh    well my suggestion if you have decent specs and not overly familiar with linux is mint with mate desktop if you like classic style desktops. cinnamon mint if you like fancy eye candy and such
08:38 TheZenKitteh    of course run live cd/dvd first to make sure everything works and still keep windows awhile in case something goes horribly wrong or you start to want to throw computer out the window
08:39 TheZenKitteh    of course windows makes me want to throw it through a window
08:39 TheZenKitteh    so I use tux
08:39 Oblivion1500    lol well cant i run it along side windows?
08:39 TheZenKitteh    yea you can install it alongside windows
08:40 Oblivion1500    yea not run duh its 3 am for me lol
08:40 TheZenKitteh    of course be sure to defragment before doing any installs alongside windows
08:41 TheZenKitteh    I still have windows but everytime I use it I feel so paranoid and it annoys me so badly I can't stand it
08:41 TheZenKitteh    lol
08:42 TheZenKitteh    I mainly have it for the few games I like that don't run on tux
08:42 Oblivion1500    still got to find a cd r, i have a sd, and a 1tb external i could run live on the sd... i kinda want to install on my external...
08:43 Oblivion1500    if i were to install on my external could i still get it to install along side windows?
08:43 TheZenKitteh    oh and if you can do it id suggest getting the mint dvd with codecs included unless you have broadband. then use whatever you want
08:44 TheZenKitteh    usually what I personally do is nuke windows, laugh in an evil maniacal way then install tux. this last time I kept windows though. never tried anything else with ubuntu based although I have installed puppy linux on an sdhc card
08:45 Oblivion1500    hmm
08:46 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, you can put Linux on any USB device if that is what you mean
08:46 VanessaE        OldCoder: another update is available :-)
08:47 VanessaE        (been doing some work on the plants lib and re-testing moretrees since the last update)
08:47 TheZenKitteh    yea oldcoder is right.. however most distros aren't optimized for such and will run very slowly
08:47 OldCoder        VanessaE, proceeding now then
08:47 Oblivion1500    can i do it without it touching my windows bianaries?
08:47 OldCoder        TheZenKitteh, even for a USB HD as opposed to Flash?
08:47 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, Yes
08:47 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, you can shrink Windows too
08:47 OldCoder        That is often an option
08:47 TheZenKitteh    not tried usb hd oldcoder only usb flash
08:47 OldCoder        TheZenKitteh, yes... For Flash you need a LiveDistro
08:48 OldCoder        USB HD is fast if you turn off the atime field
08:48 OldCoder        That is important!
08:49 Oblivion1500    what the heck is the atime field?
08:49 VanessaE        time of last file read.  gets updated every time a file is opened, which slows things down somewhat since it is rarely needd.
08:49 VanessaE        needed*
08:50 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, it is something minor that can be fixed
08:50 OldCoder        There is one line
08:50 OldCoder        That can be added to a file and problem solved
08:50 OldCoder        Anyway...
08:50 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, you can shrink Windows
08:50 TheZenKitteh    disabling atime is also good for paranoid feks like me
08:50 OldCoder        and Linux and Windows can share your HD
08:50 TheZenKitteh    lol
08:50 VanessaE        OldCoder: /etc/fstab, "noatime" in the flags field of the appropriate mount line.
08:50 OldCoder        Yep
08:50 OldCoder        There are runtime commands as well
08:52 OldCoder        VanessaE, updating
08:52 OldCoder        VanessaE, I have scripts just for your world now
08:52 OldCoder        mauvebic, when shall we update yours?
08:52 Oblivion1500    confusing as all heck for me.. but considdering, i am thinking i should just transfer all my important docs to my external and install linux along side windows
08:52 TheZenKitteh    backups should always be made
08:52 OldCoder        Yes!
08:52 TheZenKitteh    never know when something will fudge
08:53 TheZenKitteh    all my backups exist on separate drive from os drive
08:53 TheZenKitteh    lol
08:53 Muadtralk       good morning from EST #minetest!
08:53 TheZenKitteh    morning? must be nearing my bedtime
08:53 TheZenKitteh    :P
08:54 Oblivion1500    i dont really want to do a back up though.. i just want my important things there and if i have to i will do a fresh install.. with all my important things on my external ofcorse
08:54 TheZenKitteh    hey Muadtralk
08:54 Muadtralk       what time for you?
08:54 TheZenKitteh    EST for me
08:54 TheZenKitteh    lol
08:54 Oblivion1500    4?
08:54 TheZenKitteh    my body refuses to stick to a "sleep at night be awake in day" schedule
08:54 TheZenKitteh    I've tried numerous times
08:54 Muadtralk       ive been up since 3
08:54 Oblivion1500    same with me and it pisses me off
08:55 TheZenKitteh    I've been up since about noon EST
08:55 TheZenKitteh    I can't sleep later than that or the days I work long hours ill be tired at work which is no fun
08:56 TheZenKitteh    however my "natural" sleep schedule seems to be go to bed around dawn and sleep about 8-10 hours
08:57 Muadtralk       mine appears to be go to sleep around 8 EST and wake up around 2
08:57 Muadtralk       of course I never seem to follow that
09:02 VanessaE        bedtime for me.  night all.
09:04 Oblivion1500    good night
09:04 Oblivion1500    im thinking i should just get rid of windows....
09:05 Infinity_69     hi
09:05 Infinity_69     i need help with port forwarding :/
09:05 Infinity_69     i dont remember where is the password :/
09:05 Oblivion1500    ok all the files that i transfer over to my external will i still be able to access them like regular files on windows?
09:05 Infinity_69     who uses a Thomson TG84 router?
09:05 Oblivion1500    it probably is password
09:05 Oblivion1500    or admin
09:05 Infinity_69     no.
09:05 Oblivion1500    or user
09:06 Infinity_69     username is admin/Admin/administrator/Administrator
09:06 Infinity_69     but i remember the password was somewhere under the routers label
09:06 Oblivion1500    really, thats annoying
09:06 Infinity_69     what is?
09:06 Oblivion1500    having to look everywere to get a password for something you can just hardwire into and play with it
09:07 Infinity_69     umm...what?
09:07 Oblivion1500    i mean i can understand if it were wireless
09:07 Infinity_69     it does have wireless too...
09:07 Infinity_69     why?
09:07 Oblivion1500    but you can just plug into it and mess with it without all that nonsence
09:07 Infinity_69     but i use the Ethernet cable
09:08 Oblivion1500    hmm hold on let me google it for you
09:08 Infinity_69     already did
09:09 Oblivion1500    its your serial number
09:09 Infinity_69     and where is it?
09:09 Infinity_69     wait
09:09 Infinity_69     i think i know
09:09 Oblivion1500    its a bunch of numbers and letters that look like this AG$GR-GRGA4-GAGDFG-GG456
09:09 Infinity_69     oh
09:09 Infinity_69     OH YEAH
09:13 Infinity_69     umm there wasnt nothing like that
09:17 TheZenKitteh    well hate to run but time for some shuteye
09:17 TheZenKitteh    ta ta for now
09:17 enchilado       I hate to run as well
09:17 thexyz          07:08  < iqualfragil> | yaay, nearly all of my torrents have a ratio greater then one! | http://i.imgur.com/ucM14.png
09:17 enchilado       Such a waste of energy
09:18 enchilado       I hope he's not pirating
09:18 thexyz          enchilado: I'm from Russia
09:18 enchilado       Erm... okay.
09:18 thexyz          btw, enchilado, your texture of iron lump is awesome, do you plan to do more textures?
09:18 Infinity_69     I GOT IT!
09:18 Infinity_69     IM IN
09:18 Zetetic         Oh, is enchi doing pixel work here?
09:19 enchilado       thexyz: I'd like to, but I'm already very busy working on four different versions of a Minecraft texture pack. :S
09:19 * Zetetic       pats enchilado on the head
09:19 Zetetic         good boy!
09:19 Infinity_69     gonna make a server soon
09:19 Infinity_69     Who wants to join?!
09:19 Infinity_69     ports 30000-?????
09:19 Infinity_69     what ports to forward
09:20 Infinity_69     and TCP or UDP
09:20 Infinity_69     i think UDP
09:20 Infinity_69     not sure tho
09:20 Oblivion1500    both
09:20 Infinity_69     Jordach
09:20 Jordach         hmm?
09:20 Infinity_69     minetest server needs only port 30000?
09:22 enchilado       Zetetic: well, I'm not sure. It would feel... odd to do textures for a game I've never played. I'm not even really sure why I want to.
09:23 Zetetic         Still cool :)
09:23 Infinity_69     done :)
09:23 Infinity_69     hey ob...
09:23 Infinity_69     you wanna help me build a town?!
09:24 Zetetic         I need to get an external IP so I can experiment with servers
09:24 Infinity_69     who wants to help me build
09:24 Infinity_69     how do i start the server?
09:25 Infinity_69     i never tried it on ubuntu :/
09:26 Infinity_69     hey!
09:26 Zetetic         If I knew I'd tell you
09:27 Infinity_69     :/
09:27 Infinity_69     *chough*Windows sucks...*chough*
09:27 Oblivion1500    research is your friend
09:27 Infinity_69     Ob!
09:28 Zetetic         Infinity_69: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
09:28 Infinity_69     how do i start a server @ ubuntu?
09:28 Zetetic         The Fine Manual
09:28 Infinity_69     ok :)
09:28 Oblivion1500    that
09:28 enchilado       I do think Minetest looks a bit too much like Minecraft and wouldn
09:28 enchilado       Wrong button
09:28 Zetetic         enchilado: I was tempted to make it look like TMW
09:28 enchilado       Wouldn't mind helping make new textures that weren't so similar, if I could
09:28 Zetetic         Mostly because mouboos are cute
09:28 enchilado       Haha
09:29 Zetetic         And the Minetest engine is less evil than eA :)
09:29 Infinity_69     who wants to help me build!?
09:29 OldCoder        I can't help ATM but have fun
09:29 OldCoder        Folks I am cycling my worlds briefly
09:29 OldCoder        VanessaE, updating
09:30 Infinity_69     hi OC
09:30 Infinity_69     :)
09:30 OldCoder        o/
09:30 Infinity_69     im getting my server up :)
09:30 OldCoder        Good!
09:32 enchilado       If I was making a game like Minetest I would probably try to make it look as different from Minecraft as possible, but a lot of things - ores, bookshelves - are almost identical... hrm...
09:33 celeron55       i don't think you can make it look that much different without people seeing it as odd
09:33 Oblivion1500    that is just textures, the way the game is run is way different
09:33 Infinity_69     |!up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:34 Infinity_69     !up 90.190.79.31
09:34 celeron55       i think all cars look the same; why do all of them look the same? :P
09:34 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31 seems to be down
09:34 Infinity_69     !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:34 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:34 Infinity_69     wtf?!
09:34 Oblivion1500    |!up 90.190.79.31 30000
09:34 enchilado       Oblivion1500: sure. I draw, so that's what I notice.
09:34 Oblivion1500    !up 90.190.79.31 30000
09:34 moltenbot       Minetest server 90.190.79.31:30000 DOWN
09:34 Minetest-tan    Oblivion1500: 90.190.79.31 30000 seems to be down
09:35 Oblivion1500    lol well draw it different
09:35 Infinity_69     When i want dope, i get dope!
09:35 enchilado       I'd love to try drawing a complete new set of textures with a distinctive style--would there be any chance of them being used, though?
09:35 Infinity_69     When i want fuck, i get fuck.
09:35 Oblivion1500    your textures may get alot of credit in that area
09:36 Oblivion1500    it may actually be widely used.. i sure would try them out
09:36 Infinity_69     hey why cant i connect on my own server?
09:37 Infinity_69     !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:37 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:37 Infinity_69     WTF
09:39 Oblivion1500    did you follow directions properly?
09:39 Infinity_69     !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:39 Infinity_69     yes
09:39 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:39 Infinity_69     ?!
09:40 Infinity_69     !up 192.168.1.132:30000
09:40 thexyz          enchilado: what did you mean by "would there be any chance of them being used"?
09:40 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 192.168.1.132:30000 seems to be down
09:40 enchilado       Oblivion1500: well, I'd like to help with the default textures rather than making a texture pack, if that was possible, because my main interest is to help and a texture pack doesn't really do that... I guess I could just do that, but my motivation would probably be rather less.
09:40 enchilado       thexyz: ^
09:40 thexyz          oh, got it
09:40 Infinity_69     how do i see my public IP?
09:42 Oblivion1500    well there arnt really that many textures in default, you can do it and im sure people will put it in there servers but the real trick would be to implament it from most mods...
09:42 Oblivion1500    im guessing you dont have a static ip Infinity_69
09:42 Infinity_69     well DUC No-Ip doesnt open :/
09:44 enchilado       Oblivion1500: well, I don't really know much about Minetest yet--like how many mods there are, which ones people use mostly and such..
09:44 Oblivion1500    so you can have a themed server that has a decent amount of mods
09:44 Oblivion1500    if you played the game you would know.. look in the forums
09:45 enchilado       I might try it at some point, but I don't think I'd enjoy it.
09:45 Infinity_69     !up 192.168.1.132:30000
09:45 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 192.168.1.132:30000 seems to be down
09:45 Infinity_69     !up 90.190.79.31:30000
09:45 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: 90.190.79.31:30000 seems to be down
09:45 Infinity_69     oh screw this!
09:45 enchilado       (I find Minecraft boring, so I imagine I would Minetest as well. Maybe not, I suppose)
09:46 Oblivion1500    they are 2 different games
09:46 enchilado       Yes, I know, but still very similar.
09:46 thexyz          wait, not two
09:46 thexyz          oh
09:46 Zeg9            Hi
09:46 enchilado       Hi
09:47 Oblivion1500    well your making textures, so you can just dilly dally around and look at what you think needs to be changed
09:47 thexyz          nvm
09:48 enchilado       Oblivion1500: well, I think everything needs to be changed... :P
09:48 enchilado       Once I've finished what I'm working on at the moment I guess I'll try something.
09:48 Oblivion1500    hey Zeg9: you want to update your protector mod to allow for 4 nodes to be created with one craft
09:49 Zeg9            Oblivion1500, thanks for reminding me :)
09:49 enchilado       CHOCOLATE
09:49 enchilado       Er, sorry.
09:49 Oblivion1500    good, i cant wait to see what you have in store for us
09:49 Oblivion1500    Zeg9: thats why im here :)
09:49 Oblivion1500    what are you working on at the moment?
09:49 enchilado       I have a bar of roasted almond chocolate but I haven't tasted it yet, just smelt it, and it's driving my crazy. *cough*
09:50 Oblivion1500    if you dont mind me asking
09:50 enchilado       A Minecraft texture pack.
09:50 Oblivion1500    oh
09:50 Zetetic         enchilado: you wouldn't like it, send it to me
09:51 Oblivion1500    why the heck does time go by so fast?
09:51 enchilado       Zetetic: I've had them a few times before and I'm pretty sure I'm going to like it a considerable amount.
09:51 Zetetic         Are you in the presense of a large mass?
09:52 Zeg9            Oblivion1500, updated
09:52 Oblivion1500    ok great!
09:52 Oblivion1500    thanks
09:53 Oblivion1500    yea the earth
09:54 Zetetic         I meant something more massive, could be causing time dilation
09:58 Infinity_69     hi
09:58 Infinity_69     i need help with nodeblocks
09:58 Infinity_69     who can help me?
09:59 RealBadAngel    another tree finished and tuned. Oaks with new textures and acorns : http://realbadangel.pl/oaks.png
10:12 Zeg9            It's a bit quiet today...
10:12 enchilado       Too quiet.
10:13 Muadtralk       just wait it will get interesting
10:14 * Muadtralk     waits for the great irken army to come and enslave the humans
10:19 Infinity_69     how do i apply nodeboxes?
10:20 celeron55       enchilado: if you want to work only if your work will be used upstream, do some examples and come show them on #minetest-dev - i think we will be able to choose whether to go with them or not
10:22 RealBadAngel    and more "fruits"... http://realbadangel.pl/spruces_with_cones.png
10:26 celeron55       enchilado: also, if you find mine* boring, it would be interesting to hear what you would add/remove/change in order to make it not boring 8)
10:29 Zetetic         Mouboos!
10:32 Infinity_69     RBA
10:32 Infinity_69     help me?
10:32 Infinity_69     i need help with nodeboxes
10:32 Infinity_69     http://pastebin.com/fBbrKjAA
10:32 Infinity_69     look
10:32 Infinity_69     whats wrong
10:41 RealBadAngel    i havent played with nodeboxes too much
10:41 arvis           Hello
10:41 arvis           I am new at Minetest but I would like to try build something. Any good place/server to start?
10:45 arvis           :(
10:51 RealBadAngel    arvis, http://minetest.org/worlds.html
10:51 moltenbot       RealBadAngel's link: OldCoder Minetest Server Nexus
10:52 arvis           Thanks
10:52 OldCoder        Hi!
10:53 OldCoder        arvis, Ring me if you wish interact
10:53 OldCoder        We prefer you try not to pour lava on everything
10:53 OldCoder        If that is all right
10:53 arvis           Ok ;)
10:53 OldCoder        arvis we do wish that :( to be :)
10:53 OldCoder        Go pick a world
10:53 OldCoder        You can start in OpenMine right now
10:54 OldCoder        It has default interact
10:54 arvis           Ok, I will try
10:55 arvis           I am joining now.
10:56 arvis           Hmmm... not loading.
10:57 arvis           Well, for now I don't wish to build anything special but I would like to get some fun by working with other miners etc.
10:57 arvis           OldCoder: I can't join to OpenMine - 0% remaining.
10:58 arvis           OldCoder, no, now it is 1%. :D
11:02 celeron55       does OldCoder utilize the curl media transfer ability?
11:03 OldCoder        Hi
11:03 OldCoder        celeron55, I do
11:03 celeron55       in that case, arvis: get this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240
11:03 moltenbot       celeron55's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
11:03 OldCoder        If it does not work thexyz and I will debug it
11:03 celeron55       i guess arvis has the official 0.4.4 build which doesn't support it yet
11:04 arvis           celeron55 You are right, well, I have Linux version.
11:04 celeron55       ah; is it the newest one from github, or something else?
11:05 arvis           It is 0.4.4 version.
11:06 celeron55       there are two transfer schemes that minetest can use for gettin textures and sounds and stuff from a server - one is a slow UDP one, and the other one is a HTTP-based one which was added after the 0.4.4 release
11:06 celeron55       +g
11:06 arvis           Ok
11:06 celeron55       so you need a newer version than the 0.4.4 release
11:06 arvis           Ok :D
11:07 celeron55       for servers that have a lot of content
11:07 arvis           Any servers with not so lot of content?
11:08 Oblivion1500    ok i have another linux question
11:08 Oblivion1500    could i do a frugal install and not need a dvd or anything,, just install from my HD?
11:08 arvis           I know that you can install from HDD but I hadn't tried.
11:09 arvis           I usually install form my USB drive.
11:10 arvis           Oblivion1500: I think frugal installs are a bit difficult and you may get into the trouble because you need to partion your HD then select correct partions for installing etc.
11:11 Muadtralk       zenoheld.minetest.net doesnt have much in the line of mods arvis
11:11 Oblivion1500    cant i just do that and wipe windows? then just have linux?
11:12 Oblivion1500    then i dont have to worry about any partition.. just make it so its all for my linux
11:12 arvis           Oblivion1500: Anyway, I suggest to once install with DVD or USB-drive.
11:12 Oblivion1500    i have an sd card
11:12 arvis           Hmmm..., maybe it may work also for SD card too.
11:12 ruskie          it should
11:12 arvis           Just use unetbootin.
11:13 ruskie          if your system can boot from it
11:13 ruskie          well unetbootin is one option
11:13 Oblivion1500    already got it all set up.. i have to make sure my system can boot from it though.. but it still wouldent hurt to install to the sd chip first
11:13 Oblivion1500    is there a better one?
11:13 ruskie          some are enough to just raw copy the image to the device
11:15 arvis           Muadtralk: Anyone is on that map/world?
11:15 arvis           ruskie: Oblivion1500: I usually use unetbootin to install from my USB. Well, it doesn't work for Arch Linux based distros.
11:15 Muadtralk       me and some other people
11:16 Muadtralk       not on often but they do build still
11:16 Oblivion1500    i want to install mint
11:16 Oblivion1500    14
11:16 Oblivion1500    with cin desktop
11:17 arvis           Then it should work fine. ;)
11:18 Oblivion1500    good, i hope my computer doesent shit
11:19 Oblivion1500    i just have to backup a bunch of files before i do anything
11:21 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:29 Oblivion1500    hey
11:29 OldCoder        PilzAdam, Hi
11:31 Oblivion1500    ok and last question, if i use UNetbootin how do i make a hard install, i dont want a live os i want it on my computer at start up.. i want to totally get rid of windows
11:33 arvis           Oblivion1500: First you need to boot as a live-cd and then on the desktop there will be option to install mint on the hard drive.
11:33 Oblivion1500    ohhh, ok
11:34 arvis           Or when yopu will boot up then there also will be option to directly install the Mint.
11:34 arvis           And it the set-up process you will be asked to overwrite all the hard drive.
11:37 arvis           Oblivion1500: Any other questions?
11:37 Oblivion1500    not at the moment, still backing up
11:38 arvis           Ok
11:45 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/trees.png some work on textures
11:45 Oblivion1500    ok im installing on sd
11:47 webdesigner97   hi
11:48 arvis           Zeg(?
11:48 arvis           Zeg9?
11:48 Zeg9            Yeah?
11:48 arvis           sebi32 wants interact.
11:48 arvis           And I, arvis, too.
11:49 Oblivion1500    it seems to be stuck at 45%
11:49 Zeg9            ok, I'm coming
11:49 Oblivion1500    never mind
11:49 Oblivion1500    rebooting wish me luck
12:02 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/some_trees.png
12:03 RealBadAngel    some ready models together
12:04 Zetetic         Nice trees
12:04 Zetetic         Did you genetically engineer them?
12:06 RealBadAngel    those are L-Systems trees
12:18 Oblivion1500    so it did a unable to find a medium containing a live file system
12:18 Oblivion1500    ...
12:21 Oblivion1500    anyone have any ideas?
12:22 Zeg9            RealBadAngel, nice trees
12:22 Zeg9            Oblivion1500, what are you talking about?
12:22 Oblivion1500    im trying to install linux mint 14 via sd
12:22 Zeg9            sd... card?
12:22 Oblivion1500    yes
12:22 kizeren         Does anyone know, Minetest use OSS/Alsa or whatever is default on the system?
12:23 Oblivion1500    and my comp can do it
12:23 Zeg9            kizeren, it uses openal
12:23 Oblivion1500    but i got nable to find a medium containing a live file system
12:23 Zeg9            so it uses what AL uses
12:23 Oblivion1500    unable*
12:23 Zeg9            Does it say that at boot or what?
12:23 Oblivion1500    no
12:24 Oblivion1500    it says it when it does the countdown or whatever
12:24 Oblivion1500    i guess thats boot
12:24 Oblivion1500    format card and try again?
12:24 Zeg9            What tool did you use to burn it to SD card?
12:24 Zeg9            And what is the card's partition system?
12:24 kizeren         Zeg9 it seems to "steal" the sound away from every other program.  I had this happen once along time ago but can't remember if it was an ALSA or some other problem.
12:24 Oblivion1500    unetbootin
12:25 Oblivion1500    i beleave its FAT32
12:26 Zeg9            kizeren, do you use pulse, jack or something?
12:28 kizeren         pulseaudio if I remember right
12:30 Zeg9            look at pavucontrol, maybe the other applications are muted
12:31 kizeren         bash: pavucontrol: command not found
12:31 kizeren         Hm....
12:31 Zeg9            install it
12:31 Zeg9            oblivion1500, what OS are you on ATM?
12:31 kizeren         error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root.
12:31 Jordach         sudo su
12:31 kizeren         That is what I get for waking up 3 hours early :)
12:31 Oblivion1500    this gay windows shit
12:32 kizeren         Still working on my first cup of caffine
12:32 TheLastProject  Oblivion1500: Do you need to insult gays like that? :P
12:32 Zeg9            Yeah lol
12:32 Oblivion1500    i mean gay as in flamming and over payed
12:33 Zeg9            Oblivion1500, I remember there is a nice USB creator in ubuntu's iso, maybe you can find it somewhere
12:33 Oblivion1500    it seemed to add the iso correctly
12:34 Oblivion1500    i got all the promps and stuff and the nice loading screen but then that error poped up
12:34 Oblivion1500    do i need to change from IDE to AHCI?
12:34 Zeg9            I don't think, the SD drive is on USB isn't it ?
12:35 Oblivion1500    no....
12:35 Oblivion1500    i dont think so
12:35 Oblivion1500    built in
12:36 Zeg9            Maybe try what you said... I have no clue about that
12:37 Oblivion1500    i dont want to screw up my windows reg though.. well untill i know i can install linux
12:38 Zeg9            Don't you have a CD drive or something simpler?
12:38 kizeren         Zeg9 while that installs.  you would not by chance know how to do wool on OldCoders worlds would you?  Specifically black wool?
12:39 Oblivion1500    nope,
12:39 Oblivion1500    well i do have the drive but i dont have a dvd
12:43 Zeg9            kizeren, if there is the farming mod, you have to cultivate cotton
12:43 kizeren         I thought so but looks like it is Jordach woolcraft he is using.
12:44 Zeg9            and, to craft black dye, you need a grinder. grind 1 coal lump and grind again the resulting dust
12:49 kizeren         Sounds like this might be somewhat of a challenge.
12:51 Oblivion1500    im going to try YUMI
12:52 Zeg9            I remember that one
12:53 Oblivion1500    well it supports mint 14 the latest, so it must be updated.. the last one i used looked old as a rock
12:53 Oblivion1500    this one actually looks like its doing something lol
12:54 Oblivion1500    if i get the same problem im going to look for a usb stick
12:56 Oblivion1500    ok time to try again bye see ya in a bit
13:06 Oblivion1500    so uhm,,, looked nice but still the same error
13:07 Oblivion1500    going to ask #linux
13:47 Infinity_69     hey forum!
13:48 PilzAdam        meldrian, Hello!
13:49 Infinity_69     PilzAdam
13:49 Infinity_69     can you help me troubleshoot my mod?
13:49 Infinity_69     idk why, but for some reason it doesnt work
13:50 Infinity_69     <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:52 meldrian        hey PilzAdam :)
13:52 Infinity_69     meldrian
13:52 Infinity_69     can you help me?
13:53 Infinity_69     when i start a game with my mod, it puts an error
13:53 Infinity_69     <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:53 PilzAdam        meldrian, are you the one who made the "Ich spiele Minetest" LPs?
13:53 meldrian        well, i guess not? I'm not into modding, just a player :)
13:53 Infinity_69     oh ok :/
13:53 meldrian        PilzAdam, jeapp, itse mee
13:53 Infinity_69     PilzAdam
13:53 Infinity_69     <Invalid Multibyte String>
13:53 Infinity_69     what does that mean
13:53 Infinity_69     it was with YOUR fork :D
13:54 Jeija           Hi meldrian!
13:54 meldrian        Hi there Jeija
13:54 PilzAdam        /IGNORE Infinity_69 all
13:54 PilzAdam        meldrian, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4419
13:54 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: [German][Mod] Wilson [wilson] (Page 1) - Discussion in other languages - Minetest Forums
13:54 Infinity_69     why?
13:54 Infinity_69     no really, help me please!
13:55 meldrian        No REALLY? U did Wilson? :D
13:55 meldrian        great!
13:55 meldrian        ^^
13:56 Infinity_69     meldrian, nice voice you got :D
13:56 Infinity_69     for some reason, i sound like my mom when i use my mic... :/
13:56 Infinity_69     dunno why
13:57 meldrian        well ehm... thank you Infinity_69 :)
13:57 Infinity_69     :D
14:03 Infinity_69     NakedFury
14:03 Infinity_69     where's the minetest.conf on ubuntu?
14:04 Zeg9            infinity_69...
14:04 Infinity_69     hi Zeg
14:04 Infinity_69     :D
14:04 Zeg9            wiki is your friend
14:04 meldrian        PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/xIGJV.jpg ;)
14:04 PilzAdam        Ich hab die Texturen selbst gemalt :-)
14:05 Infinity_69     Ich ben ein Ragnar :D
14:06 Zeg9            Ich bin ton pere
14:06 Zeg9            il a free, il a tout compris
14:06 Infinity_69     is it in the minetest folder?
14:06 Infinity_69     cause i just searched and it wasnt :/
14:06 Infinity_69     only minetest.conf.example
14:06 Infinity_69     :/
14:06 Zeg9            Infinity_69, ~/.minetest/
14:06 Infinity_69     ko
14:06 Infinity_69     ok
14:07 Infinity_69     how do i open it with the term.?
14:07 Zeg9            gedit ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9            or nano ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9            or vim ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 Zeg9            or vi ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
14:07 * Zeg9          has been kicked for spamming
14:11 Jordach         hey OldCoder
14:11 OldCoder        hi
14:11 OldCoder        !
14:12 * Jordach       has seen that you have been busy
14:12 OldCoder        Yep
14:20 Jordach         OldCoder, the other day i found something strange (car boot sale), an intel "bubble" memory node
14:22 PilzAdam        meldrian, btw: mein nick wird deutsch ausgesprochen
14:23 meldrian        check, ich werde es mir einprägen. Nichts für ungut
14:24 OldCoder
14:24 OldCoder        Hmm
14:24 OldCoder        That goes back a ways Jordach
14:24 PilzAdam        bbl
14:31 kaeza           good morning :)
14:40 Exio            hi kaeza!
14:40 Exio            kaeza: can you help me? i need someone from argentina/uruguay for a ping :P
14:40 kaeza           sure
14:41 Exio            query?
14:46 Zetetic         Are there any mods for clothing that modifies the skin?
14:46 Zetetic         I'm searching but I've not found anything
14:52 kaeza           Zetetic, Zeg9's in-game skin switcher
14:53 Zeg9            Hi
14:53 kaeza           hey zeg
14:53 Zetetic         kaeza: that's a cool thing and what made me think of the question but not what I meant
14:53 Zetetic         I was thinking clothes you can wear that only change part of your skin, like jumpers and trousers
14:54 Zeg9            Zetetic, maybe it would be possible to attach clothes to players instead of changing their texture
14:54 Zeg9            and no, there is no mod that does that I thikn
14:54 kaeza           Zeg9, look at 3d armor
14:54 Zetetic         Could attached clotthe move with the arms
14:54 Zetetic         ?
14:54 Zeg9            Oh, it has been made already?
14:54 Zetetic         And legs
14:54 Zeg9            Zetetic, yes but I'm not sure it will be sync
14:54 kaeza           Zeg9, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4420
14:54 moltenbot       kaeza's link: 3d Armor - need help! (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
14:55 kaeza           Zetetic, ^
14:55 Zetetic         Interesting, thanks
14:58 kaeza           np
15:02 Oblivion1500    hello anyone with linux exp help please.. im new to all this jaz and i cant even figure out how to install something i downloaded.. im using mint which i thought was slackware but pkgtools dont work or i just dont know how to use them
15:04 kaeza           Oblivion1500, > #mint
15:04 thexyz          usually you don't have to download something, most packages are availible from apt, and yes, →#mint
15:04 thexyz          *anything
15:05 Oblivion1500    apt?
15:05 Zetetic         Fast moving things like games are often painfully out of date from repos though
15:07 kaeza           Oblivion1500, > #linuxmint *
15:07 Oblivion1500    ahh
15:07 Oblivion1500    yea mint didnt work
15:09 Oblivion1500    thanks!
15:11 kaeza           yw
15:12 Oblivion1500    so uhm yea nobody wants to talk to me lol
15:12 Oblivion1500    or nobody is talking at all
15:13 Exio            any way to "attach" info to a tool?
15:13 Zeg9            Exio, see technic's source for rechargeable stuff
15:14 Exio            ok :)
15:14 kaeza           Oblivion1500, heh yeah
15:15 kaeza           you gotta be patient to the extreme of patience
15:17 * OldCoder      will rest now
15:17 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, Hi
15:17 OldCoder        Oblivion1500, we'll chat later
15:17 OldCoder        I need to rest for a bit
15:19 kaeza           wowow! we are more popular than MC? http://www.lgdb.org/category/game_modes/sandbox
15:19 moltenbot       kaeza's link: Sandbox games by popularity | Linux game database
15:25 Calinou         lol
15:26 Zeg9            Weird
15:27 klunk           >linux< database could explain that
15:28 Exio            mc runs in linux
15:28 Exio            so..
15:28 klunk           java had so bad reputation
15:28 Exio            for me, it isn't just the "reputation", java sucks for a game
15:29 klunk           price should increase popularity too
15:29 klunk           yes :-)
15:29 klunk           by the way, good new !
15:30 Exio            2 FPS in MC with a 16x texture pack /10 fps in "optimized" places/ and 50 in MT with a 512x texture pack *here*
15:30 Calinou         Exio: no u
15:30 Exio            wat
15:31 Calinou         minecraft is slow because it is unoptimized, not because it uses java
15:31 Exio            Calinou: java lover
15:31 Exio            really?
15:31 Calinou         RAM is cheap and java is only 15% slower than C++, but yes, using C++ would've been a better choice (but we don't want to use wine -- so we'd have to convince mojang to make the game for linux)
15:32 Exio            java in graphics terms?
15:32 kizeren         I don't use wine to play minecraft on linux.....
15:32 Calinou         yes
15:32 Calinou         but if it was C++ we would
15:32 Exio            well, k, if you say it
15:32 Calinou         I don't see mojang making a linux port :P
15:32 kizeren         Oooo I see now what you mean.
15:32 Calinou         OS X probably, though
15:44 Dogzilla131     Whats the name of a mod that add hammers and woodcutters?
15:44 Calinou         Dogzilla131: workers?
15:45 Dogzilla131     not npc, but tool
15:52 klunk           this mod ? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 (industrial)
15:52 moltenbot       klunk's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
15:59 RealBadAngel    how do you like this prototype? http://realbadangel.pl/palms.png
16:00 klunk           a lot ...
16:00 Zeg9            RealBadAngel, love it
16:00 PilzAdam        the trunk shouldnt be a straight line
16:02 RealBadAngel    PilzAdam, but it would like stupid thx to size of nodes i afraid
16:02 RealBadAngel    but i can give it a try
16:02 PilzAdam        yea, prolly
16:05 RealBadAngel    nah, looks like shit, its not even worth a screenshot ;)
16:07 * Kacey         wants to get on xbox live
16:09 klunk           (Zeg9: bridges didn't work yesterday on Zegaton, for I and rotor. Perhaps it as something to deal with my version (0.4.4) and fact server is running 0.4.4-d1 ?)
16:09 delicado        hi can minetest use shaders?
16:09 Zeg9            klunk, bridge crafting or what?
16:09 Calinou         xbox live--
16:09 Calinou         delicado: can't you read changelogs? yes it can
16:09 Calinou         GLSL shaders
16:09 PilzAdam        delicado, there are shaders in 0.4.4
16:10 Calinou         no HLSL
16:10 klunk           Zeg9: recipe didn't work (vines and stuff in the middle =impossible to obtain "bridge floor" stuff
16:10 delicado        oh good.
16:11 Zeg9            klunk, yeah, it's because of stairsplus. If you want I can exchange stairsplus slabs for normal ones that will work in the recipe
16:11 delicado        one more question from me, whats the most populated minetest server right now and free?
16:12 Calinou         "free", there are no pay-to-play servers as of today :P
16:12 Calinou         redcrab.suret.net port 30401
16:12 klunk           Zeg9: hmmm, thanks! but I don't know how it affects other players and what they will prefer
16:12 klunk           I can't really figure what we will loose and what we will win
16:12 delicado        yeah thanks.
16:13 Zeg9            You will loose a slab, and win a slab that can be used to craft bridges.
16:14 klunk           Zeg9: if they are no risk to affect old buildings, why not ?
16:15 Zeg9            klunk, je demanderais à OldCoder de changer la recette plus tard. La il dort.
16:15 klunk           Zeg9: sur, aucun problème :-)
16:15 NekoGloop       Oh, i must have logged into the wrong channel
16:15 klunk           thanks !
16:16 klunk           ha ha ! you are coming just at the bad moment !
16:17 NekoGloop       Love that engrish.
16:19 klunk           NekoGloop: yes , sorry, at least it is mine (home made ...) and not google trad
16:19 Kacey           afk
16:19 NekoGloop       Lol
16:21 NekoGloop       I just died in nethack on the second floor O.o
16:22 Zetetic         Hmm, I wonder how easy it would be to repurpose the NetHack level generator :D
16:42 Kacey           back
16:43 Kacey           haha
16:43 thexyz          !seen thexyz
16:43 Minetest-tan    thexyz: ?
16:43 thexyz          !seen sfan5
16:43 Minetest-tan    thexyz: Sorry, I haven't seen sfan5 around.
16:44 sfan5           test
16:44 sfan5           !seen sfan5
16:44 Minetest-tan    sfan5: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:44:09 UTC on #minetest
16:44 sfan5           i need to write something..
16:44 Kacey           i can see again!!!!
16:45 sfan5           !seen Kacey
16:45 Minetest-tan    sfan5: kacey was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:44:49 UTC on #minetest
16:45 thexyz|         thexyz: lol
16:45 thexyz          hm
16:45 NekoGloop       !seen thexyzl
16:45 Minetest-tan    NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen thexyzl around.
16:46 thexyz          how's that one supposed to work
16:46 Kacey           !seen thexyz|
16:46 Minetest-tan    Kacey: thexyz| was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:45:31 UTC on #minetest
16:46 NekoGloop       Uppercase i isnt it.
16:46 thexyz          pipe
16:46 NekoGloop       Curse you sans serif font.
16:46 Kacey           no
16:46 Kacey           not an l
16:47 Kacey           | not l
16:47 Kacey           shift + \ key
16:47 PilzAdam        AltGr + < on a german qwertz layout
16:48 NekoGloop       ah.
16:48 NekoGloop       |
16:49 NekoGloop       too many things look like the same fucking thing in this font.
16:49 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, next challenge: find ¬ on your keyboard
16:49 PilzAdam        :-)
16:49 Zetetic         PilzAdam: shift + `
16:49 Zetetic         Where else would it be?
16:50 NekoGloop       It's not even accessible for me
16:50 NekoGloop       I dont have a real keyboard currently ;)
16:50 Zetetic         Android?
16:50 Kacey           ¬ i win
16:50 Zetetic         It's on the Hacker's Keyboard somewhere
16:50 PilzAdam        its AltGr + 6 on a german layout
16:50 Kacey           ~
16:51 Kacey           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ tildes
16:51 thexyz|         thexyz: test
16:52 thexyz          yes?
16:52 thexyz|         oh, wait
16:52 thexyz|         !tell thexyz he's awesome
16:52 Kacey           oops
16:52 thexyz|         um..
16:52 Kacey           timed out of the nick
16:53 sfan5           !q
16:53 MinetestBot     Shut up! Shut up! -Norman Bates(Psycho)
16:53 sfan5           !q
16:53 MinetestBot     Woah. That guy looks *really* pissed. -Ginny(Die Hard)
16:53 sfan5           !q
16:53 MinetestBot     I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. -Galileo Galilei
16:53 sfan5           !qoute
16:54 Kacey           !q
16:54 MinetestBot     I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. -Galileo Galilei
16:54 Kacey           !joke
16:54 sfan5           !quote
16:54 MinetestBot     Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -Martin Luther King, Jr.
16:54 sfan5           !quote
16:54 MinetestBot     In their proper place, the depths. -Joh Frederson(Metropolis)
16:54 Infinity_69     hi sfan5
16:54 sfan5           hi
16:54 Infinity_69     can you help me?
16:54 Kacey           !commands
16:54 moltenbot       Try !up <hostname.org> !teach <topic> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define <word> !joke
16:55 Infinity_69     i tried to install a txture pack, but it doesnt apply...
16:55 Infinity_69     i dont know why
16:55 sfan5           Kacey: that are moltenbot's commands
16:55 sfan5           !seen MinetestBot
16:55 Minetest-tan    sfan5: minetestbot was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:54:24 UTC on #minetest
16:55 MinetestBot     sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around.
16:55 Kacey           ooh
16:55 sfan5           lol
16:55 sfan5           lol
16:55 sfan5           !seen MinetestBot
16:55 Minetest-tan    sfan5: minetestbot was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:55:33 UTC on #minetest
16:55 MinetestBot     sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around.
16:55 Infinity_69     sfan5
16:55 Infinity_69     i tried to install a txture pack, but it doesnt apply...
16:55 Infinity_69     i dont know why
16:56 sfan5           hm
16:56 Infinity_69     can you help?
16:56 Kacey           !teach google
16:56 sfan5           yes
16:56 Infinity_69     i have 3 minetests
16:56 sfan5           !g google
16:56 Minetest-tan    sfan5: http://www.google.com/
16:56 MinetestBot     sfan5: http://www.google.com/
16:56 moltenbot       MinetestBot's link: Google
16:56 PilzAdam        !wik Texture Pack
16:56 Minetest-tan    "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Texture_Pack
16:56 MinetestBot     "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Texture_Pack
16:56 Kacey           damnit what can moltenbot teach?
16:56 sfan5           MinetestBot: quit
16:57 Infinity_69     lawl :D
16:57 Kacey           Minetest-tan: quit
16:57 Kacey           damn
16:57 sfan5           *facepalm*
16:57 sfan5           Minetest-tan, reload seen
16:57 Minetest-tan    sfan5: <module 'seen' from '/home/minetest/bot/modules/seen.pyc'> (version: 2013-01-12 16:43:04)
16:57 sfan5           !seen sfan5
16:57 Minetest-tan    sfan5: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-01-12 16:57:41 UTC on #minetest
16:58 sfan5           !tell sfan5 hello
16:58 Infinity_69     sfan5
16:58 Infinity_69     any help coming yet?
16:58 sfan5           ...
16:58 sfan5           in which folder did you put them?
16:58 Infinity_69     in minetest
16:58 Infinity_69     and changed the minetest.conf in ~/.minetest/
16:59 sfan5           which texture pack are your trying to install?
16:59 Infinity_69     Doku
16:59 Infinity_69     awesome one :D
16:59 sfan5           link?
16:59 NakedFury       textures go in textures>all
16:59 sfan5           ^
16:59 NekoGloop       Attack of the bots!
16:59 Infinity_69     wait
17:00 NakedFury       that folder has a txt file called textures_here
17:00 Infinity_69     http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3313
17:01 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/palms2.png
17:01 RealBadAngel    actually now it doesnt look that bad :)
17:01 sfan5           RealBadAngel: nice
17:01 kaeza           RealBadAngel, excellent!
17:01 kaeza           and hi :)
17:01 RealBadAngel    hi
17:02 Infinity_69     wait...
17:02 RealBadAngel    need to make small fix to the treegen engine for palms to work perfectly
17:02 Infinity_69     0.4.3 & 0.4.4 textures arent compatable arent they?
17:03 RealBadAngel    i need turtle command to place a fruit (coconut) and f command shall draw leaves with 100% chance
17:03 Infinity_69     thexyz
17:03 Infinity_69     are 0.4.3 & 0.4.4 texturepacks compatable?
17:03 sfan5           should be
17:03 Infinity_69     oh
17:04 Infinity_69     for some reason, on the wiki, it said, that they arent
17:04 kaeza           !seen kaeza
17:04 Minetest-tan    kaeza: Sorry, I haven't seen kaeza around.
17:04 kaeza           ?
17:04 thexyz          !seen kaeza
17:04 Minetest-tan    thexyz: kaeza was last seen at 2013-01-12 17:04:11 UTC on #minetest
17:04 Infinity_69     or somewhere
17:04 sfan5           kaeza: you have to write something for Minetest-tan to notice your
17:04 sfan5           -r
17:04 kaeza           oh
17:05 thexyz          Minetest-tan: tell thexyz something
17:05 Minetest-tan    You can tell yourself that.
17:05 thexyz          =(
17:05 Infinity_69     btw...
17:05 sfan5           Minetest-tan: tell enchilado hello
17:05 Minetest-tan    sfan5: I'll pass that on when enchilado is around.
17:05 Infinity_69     look at the compatability on Doku Test
17:05 Zetetic         Minetest-tan: help
17:05 Zetetic         Hmm, not a Phenny
17:05 kaeza           Minetest-tan, tell sfan5 +1
17:05 Minetest-tan    RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration (file "/home/minetest/bot/modules/tell.py", line 30, in dumpReminders)
17:06 sfan5           Zetetic: it uses phenny
17:06 Minetest-tan    sfan5: 17:05Z <kaeza> tell sfan5 +1
17:06 Infinity_69     DokuTest supports: Versions: 0.4.3 0.4.2 0.3.1
17:06 Zetetic         Ah, alright
17:06 Infinity_69     hey are there any good 0.4.3 servers left?
17:06 thexyz          lol
17:06 sfan5           Zetetic: it just has customised modules https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
17:07 moltenbot       sfan5's link: sfan5/minetestbot-modules ? GitHub
17:07 Zetetic         Fair enough
17:07 Infinity_69     !g minetest 0.4.3 source cpde git
17:07 Minetest-tan    Infinity_69: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
17:07 Infinity_69     thats 0.4.4, you moron!
17:07 thexyz          sfan5: how about fixing that one?
17:07 sfan5           *facepalm*
17:08 Infinity_69     hey where is a 0.4.3 source code?
17:08 sfan5           thexyz: ...
17:08 Zeg9            Infinity_69, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/0.4.3
17:08 moltenbot       Zeg9's link: celeron55/minetest at 0.4.3 ? GitHub
17:08 thexyz          Minetest-tan: tell sfan5 something
17:08 Minetest-tan    thexyz: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around.
17:08 thexyz          k
17:09 sfan5           thexyz: seems to be a race condition with threads, i can't solve that so easily
17:09 Minetest-tan    sfan5: 17:08Z <thexyz> tell sfan5 something
17:09 sfan5           thank you Minetest-tan
17:12 RealBadAngel    welcome to Palm Beach ;) http://realbadangel.pl/palms3.png
17:12 kaeza           RealBadAngel, WOW
17:13 kaeza           but why aren't the trunks generated?
17:13 thexyz          sfan5: http://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#dict.copy
17:13 kaeza           oh sorry
17:13 kaeza           me and my poor vision lol
17:14 sfan5           thexyz: that doesn't help me
17:14 jojoa1997       why wont the tool i made dig the node i made http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524228/
17:14 moltenbot       jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin
17:15 jojoa1997       look at the groups
17:15 Infinity_69     how do i delete a folder with the term.?
17:15 RealBadAngel    view from above http://realbadangel.pl/palms4.png
17:15 thexyz          sfan5: dict.copy() is atomic so it should be safe to copy dict before iterating over it
17:15 sfan5           oh..
17:16 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, nice
17:17 RealBadAngel    kaeza, what do you mean "not generated"?
17:17 kaeza           my bad, I didn't se the trunks lol
17:17 kaeza           I have very poor vision
17:17 RealBadAngel    hehe
17:18 jojoa1997       do you guys know what is wrong. the tool wont dig anyhting.
17:18 thexyz          !up 31.131.27.150:3000
17:18 moltenbot       Minetest server 31.131.27.150:3000:3000 DOWN
17:18 Infinity_69     http://www.lulztruck.com/53069/this-ruined-harry-potter-for-me-wtf-2/
17:18 Minetest-tan    thexyz: 31.131.27.150:3000 seems to be down
17:18 Infinity_69     look at THIS!
17:18 thexyz          !up 31.131.27.150:30000
17:18 moltenbot       Minetest server 31.131.27.150:30000:30000 DOWN
17:18 Minetest-tan    thexyz: 31.131.27.150:30000 is up (0.207ms)
17:18 PilzAdam        Minetest-tan, tell RealBadAngel that his palm trees are nice
17:18 Minetest-tan    PilzAdam: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around.
17:18 kaeza           wat
17:19 RealBadAngel    lol
17:19 Minetest-tan    RealBadAngel: 17:18Z <PilzAdam> tell RealBadAngel that his palm trees are nice
17:20 Jordach         Minetest-tan, tell Minetest-tan I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:20 Minetest-tan    Jordach: I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:20 Jordach         now lets watch.
17:20 RealBadAngel    so, now just pine trees (with cones) and sequoias and i will have 10 trees ready
17:20 kaeza           !up google.com
17:20 moltenbot       Minetest server google.com:30000 DOWN
17:20 Minetest-tan    kaeza: google.com seems to be down
17:21 kaeza           Minetest-tan, tell Minetest-tan tell Minetest-tan tell Minetest-tan
17:21 Minetest-tan    kaeza: I'll pass that on when Minetest-tan is around.
17:21 sfan5           !sh
17:21 Minetest-tan    sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:21 Minetest-tan    sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:21 sfan5           kaeza: it doen't work
17:22 sfan5           Minetest-tan, tell MinetestBot tell Minetest-tan tell MinetestBot
17:22 Minetest-tan    sfan5: I'll pass that on when MinetestBot is around.
17:23 sfan5           !sh
17:23 MinetestBot     sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:23 Minetest-tan    sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
17:23 MinetestBot     sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:23 Minetest-tan    sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
17:23 Minetest-tan    MinetestBot: 17:22Z <sfan5> tell MinetestBot tell Minetest-tan tell MinetestBot
17:23 Minetest-tan    KeyError: 'minetestbot' (file "/home/minetest/bot/modules/tell.py", line 101, in getReminders)
17:23 thexyz          awesome
17:23 sfan5           uhh
17:23 NekoGloop       holy shit
17:23 NekoGloop       ;-)
17:23 sfan5           !q
17:23 MinetestBot     Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile. -Albert Schweitzer
17:25 NekoGloop       !q
17:25 MinetestBot     Woah. That guy looks *really* pissed. -Ginny(Die Hard)
17:25 Zeg9            !q
17:25 MinetestBot     Shut up! Shut up! -Norman Bates(Psycho)
17:25 Zeg9            :(
17:25 thexyz          oh no, not again
17:25 sfan5           !quote
17:25 MinetestBot     In their proper place, the depths. -Joh Frederson(Metropolis)
17:28 thexyz          sfan5: wtf
17:28 Jordach         !quote
17:28 MinetestBot     I guarantee it. -Marty McFly(Back to the Future)
17:28 Jordach         yay!
17:30 NekoGloop       !quote
17:30 MinetestBot     You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself. -Galileo Galilei
17:40 Jordach         !quote
17:40 MinetestBot     It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one. -George Washington
17:50 Jordach         john_minetest, on*
17:51 Jordach         !quote
17:51 MinetestBot     Those who do not complain are never pitied. -Jane Austen
17:51 PilzAdam        copy just the german grammar
17:54 Zetetic         A witty saying proves nothing. –Voltaire
18:00 Kacey           is there a name for the default player texture?
18:01 Kacey           like MC's Steve?
18:01 PilzAdam        character.png
18:01 Kacey           we need to name him
18:01 PilzAdam        he has a name
18:01 Kacey           what is it
18:01 PilzAdam        character.png
18:01 Kacey           like a name name not file name
18:02 Kacey           how about Frank?
18:02 Zetetic         Looks more like a Gerald
18:02 PilzAdam        It looks like character.png to me
18:03 Zetetic         The PNG is just the skin though, right?
18:03 Kacey           im calling him Bob
18:04 Kacey           jojoa1997 hi
18:04 jojoa1997       who wants to try out my spleef arena mod
18:04 jojoa1997       kacey hi
18:04 Kacey           i want to name the default player
18:05 jojoa1997       what default player
18:05 jojoa1997       was that to me?
18:05 Kacey           anyone
18:05 Kacey           but give him a name like MC's Steve
18:06 jojoa1997       Kacey you want to test my spleef_arena mod
18:06 Kacey           no i have the lagz today
18:06 jojoa1997       GET A BETTER COMPUTER
18:07 jojoa1997       ;-)
18:07 Kacey           cant
18:07 Kacey           i have no monet
18:07 Kacey           money, even
18:07 Zetetic         jojoa1997: what's a "spleef"?
18:08 jojoa1997       you sure you dont want to try it. the mod has only 2 blocks and one tool
18:08 jojoa1997       it is a game
18:08 Zetetic         K
18:08 jojoa1997       it is where 2 players are in an arena and they try to make the other fall
18:08 jojoa1997       one sec
18:10 jojoa1997       finding a video
18:10 klunk           jojoa1997: spleef={times={[1]=2.0, [2]=1.0, [3]=>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<.1}, maxwear=0.05, maxlevel=1},  you should put a number ?
18:11 jojoa1997       here is a spleef video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcWW5tpJTks
18:11 moltenbot       jojoa1997's link: Things to do in: Minecraft - Spleef - YouTube
18:11 jojoa1997       klunk is that from an earlier post
18:12 klunk           ? your tool is working on your node now ?
18:12 jojoa1997       cause the prob was that the nodes had groups = {} instead of groupS = {}
18:12 jojoa1997       the "s" is exagerated
18:12 jojoa1997       klunk: want to test it
18:13 jojoa1997       here is github https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena.git
18:13 moltenbot       jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/spleef_arena ? GitHub
18:13 klunk           no thanks I can't now
18:15 rarkenin_       !up rarkenindyn.mooo.com
18:15 Minetest-tan    rarkenin_: rarkenindyn.mooo.com is up (0.376ms)
18:15 MinetestBot     rarkenin_: rarkenindyn.mooo.com is up (0.578ms)
18:15 moltenbot       Minetest server rarkenindyn.mooo.com:30000 UP
18:16 jojoa1997       VanessaE: you there?
18:17 PilzAdam        Minetest-tan, tell VanessaE that she is back now
18:19 thexyz          PilzAdam: i disabled this feature
18:19 PilzAdam        I noticed that
18:41 * Kacey         wants to experiment with mesecons, but cant
18:41 Infinity_69     hey i saw that when i compiled minetest, it doesnt have minetest_game in it :/
18:42 Infinity_69     so how do i get it?
18:42 Infinity_69     i want a 0.4.3 version
18:42 PilzAdam        do you use git?
18:42 Infinity_69     umm...
18:42 Infinity_69     i download from there, but i dont use it myself...
18:42 Infinity_69     dunno how
18:42 PilzAdam        https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tree/0.4.3
18:42 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: celeron55/minetest_game at 0.4.3 ? GitHub
18:43 Infinity_69     it doesnt have the minetest_game in the games folder
18:43 Infinity_69     i already checked that
18:43 Infinity_69     oh
18:43 Infinity_69     :D
18:43 Infinity_69     thanks
18:43 Infinity_69     it looked similar to the 0.4.3 source code link...
18:44 jojoa1997       VanessaE: Restart your server mapgen super lag
18:44 Infinity_69     ok, thanks PilzAdam, and bye fornow...
18:45 Infinity_69     oh, and before i forget, is there any good/populated 0.4.3 servers left?
18:45 NekoGloop       xchat looks like crap
18:45 NekoGloop       look better than webchat
18:45 Zetetic         That's why you should use emacs
18:45 Infinity_69     NekoGloop
18:45 thexyz          NekoGloop: irssi
18:45 NekoGloop       no and no
18:46 Infinity_69     do you know any good 0.4.3 servers?
18:46 NekoGloop       no
18:46 Infinity_69     oh :/
18:46 Infinity_69     ok
18:46 Zetetic         irssi is too hard for me :(
18:46 Infinity_69     whats irssi?
18:47 Zetetic         An IRC client
18:47 Infinity_69     oh
18:47 thexyz          Zetetic: ...of the future
18:47 NekoGloop       thexyz: ...of the past
18:47 Infinity_69     :D
18:47 Zetetic         thexyz: nonsense, it's not written in Lisp
18:47 Zetetic         We'll win eventually...
18:47 thexyz          NekoGloop: why?
18:48 thexyz          well, lisp is awesome
18:48 Zetetic         Emacs Lisp isn't @(
18:54 Kacey           i wish i had my xbox here
19:02 NekoGloop       irssi sucks, it doesnt even start up
19:02 NekoGloop       xchat sucks, you have to buy it.
19:03 jojoa1997       OldCoder you there
19:03 Zeg9            Nekogloop, what about HexChat?
19:04 NekoGloop       >windows
19:04 Gambit          Quassel.
19:04 NekoGloop       how about i stick with good ol' free webchat
19:04 NekoGloop       seeing as it a) works properly and b) is free.
19:05 Kacey           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F35bcEVHusw
19:05 moltenbot       Kacey's link: How to Make a Hyperion Cannon in Minecraft - YouTube
19:05 thexyz          webchat is awful
19:06 NekoGloop       but it works
19:06 NekoGloop       unlike irssi
19:06 thexyz          well
19:06 thexyz          i'm chatting from irssi now
19:06 thexyz          it works
19:07 thexyz          but even non-working irssi is better than webchat
19:07 NekoGloop       hah no
19:07 NekoGloop       irssi is in no way any "irc of the future"
19:07 NekoGloop       it's a fucking command line interface.
19:09 Calinou         GUIs are not always better, but GUI IRC clients definitely are
19:09 Calinou         IRC is fairly complicated
19:09 Gambit          channel and user lists are best manipulated with a cursor
19:10 thexyz          what do you need user list for?
19:10 Calinou         for seeing who is online?
19:10 Gambit          to quickly see who is online
19:10 Calinou         /names is so 1995
19:10 Calinou         Zeg9: hexchat ftw :3
19:10 thexyz          yes, /names
19:11 Calinou         <NekoGloop> xchat sucks, you have to buy it. <= no...
19:11 Calinou         thexyz: we're in 2013
19:11 thexyz          so what?
19:11 Calinou         we like having another tab with an user list
19:11 Calinou         to see who is online and who is op
19:11 thexyz          that's an option too
19:11 thexyz          (in irssi)
19:11 * Zeg9          is trying to find out why his "game" has a segfault on exit !
19:11 Calinou         yeah but how can you click the users?
19:11 thexyz          i mean, it's configurable
19:11 Calinou         to see their whois quickly :P
19:11 Calinou         or kick/ban them
19:11 thexyz          to see their whois quickly i type /whois name
19:12 thexyz          it takes less time
19:13 Calinou         then you have to switch to server tab
19:13 Calinou         (noone wants to see server notices in channels)
19:13 thexyz          yes, so I press alt+1
19:13 NekoGloop       Calinou: yes you do
19:13 Calinou         alt+shift+1
19:13 thexyz          that still takes less time than moving cursor, clicking, clicking, clicking
19:13 Calinou         FTFY
19:13 thexyz          no, alt+f1
19:13 Calinou         (azerty here)
19:14 thexyz          +1
19:14 thexyz          oh
19:14 Calinou         some languages have characters like é, blame them
19:15 thexyz          can I configure xchat to show all highlights in different "window"?
19:15 Calinou         no
19:16 thexyz          http://ompldr.org/vaDFyYw
19:16 thexyz          too bad
19:16 Calinou         you still have to type /names constantly to see users
19:16 Calinou         also you don't see seconds in timestamp :p
19:17 Calinou         (why don't ALL IRC clients do this...)
19:17 thexyz          well, I can *configure* it
19:17 thexyz          but I don't need to see nicknames all the time
19:17 thexyz          http://wouter.coekaerts.be/irssi/nicklist
19:19 Zeg9            Bye all
19:20 PilzAdam        thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/422
19:20 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Drop nodes as items when dugged and no room in inventory and dont remove... by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #422 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:22 NekoGloop       PilzAdam: dug* and fix that grammer :P
19:23 kizeren         dugged
19:23 RealBadAngel    reworked palms a bit: http://realbadangel.pl/palms2.png http://realbadangel.pl/palms1.png
19:23 thexyz          PilzAdam: why do you math.random(60)/60
19:23 thexyz          ?
19:23 thexyz          >math.random() with no arguments generates a real number between 0 and 1.
19:23 NekoGloop       kizeren: dug*
19:23 Infinity_69     i have a git!
19:23 thexyz          who cares
19:23 Infinity_69     :D
19:24 Infinity_69     idk...
19:24 Infinity_69     :/
19:24 kizeren         hehe atleast it wasn't digged.
19:24 Infinity_69     :\
19:24 thexyz          that message was directed to NekoGloop
19:24 NekoGloop       RealBadAngel: cool.
19:24 NekoGloop       thexyz: I know nobody cares about me, and i accept this.
19:24 thexyz          k, great
19:24 Infinity_69     -.-
19:25 thexyz          PilzAdam: why -0.3?
19:25 thexyz          shouldn't it be -0.5?
19:25 PilzAdam        no, this causes them to get stucked in the neighbour nodes
19:26 thexyz          how so?
19:26 PilzAdam        this is the same code that i used in the attached_node code
19:26 thexyz          with math.random()-0.3 you'll get [-0.3;0.7]
19:27 thexyz          and you probably want something like [-0.3; 0.3]
19:27 PilzAdam        seems I did something really strange there
19:27 thexyz          also, codestyle >local left=hitter:get_inventory
19:27 thexyz          " = "
19:28 PilzAdam        this is because of the line length
19:28 thexyz          umm?
19:28 thexyz          this line https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/blob/20b1620c3c1f5e8d9cb425fb5c5d9cd39c95a97a/builtin/item_entity.lua#L89 is longer
19:28 moltenbot       thexyz's link: minetest/builtin/item_entity.lua at 20b1620c3c1f5e8d9cb425fb5c5d9cd39c95a97a ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:29 thexyz          and line length is less important
19:31 NekoGloop       meow
19:33 NekoGloop       we should have a forum games section [/random]
19:34 Zetetic         On IRC?
19:34 Zetetic         Sounds confusing
19:34 NekoGloop       no on the minetest forums :P
19:34 thexyz          >Offtopic
19:34 Zetetic         That makes more sense
19:34 PilzAdam        thexyz, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/5ea358a2348695213595412e123d032a1f465829
19:34 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Fix code style and spread of items ?  5ea358a ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:34 NekoGloop       http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=398 I keep getting confused.
19:34 moltenbot       NekoGloop's link: Gambit's profile - Minetest Forums
19:36 thexyz          PilzAdam: i still don't get it
19:36 Minetest-tan    GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: fix integer overflow (fixes #414) 183c81b5ec 2013-01-12T11:32:09-08:00 http://git.io/rMEhww
19:36 MinetestBot     GIT: doserj (Jürgen Doser) commited to celeron55/minetest: fix integer overflow (fixes #414) 183c81b5ec 2013-01-12T11:32:09-08:00 http://git.io/rMEhww
19:36 thexyz          why do you use math.random(60)/100 instead of math.random()/2
19:36 NekoGloop       Why the hell do we need two of the same bot.
19:36 PilzAdam        because it should range from -0.3 to 0.3
19:39 NekoGloop       Gambit is going to need a forum name :P
19:39 thexyz          well, I'd prefer (math.random() - 0.5) * 3 / 5
19:39 NekoGloop       ack!
19:39 NekoGloop       forums went down!
19:39 thexyz          aw
19:40 sfan5           !q
19:40 MinetestBot     Change in all things is sweet. -Aristotle
19:41 NekoGloop       >new minecraft version uses individual images for each texture
19:41 PilzAdam        thexyz, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/6dacf6bc60a82f221cc8edc02944643b535ca9a9
19:41 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Fix code style and spread of items ?  6dacf6b ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:41 Infinity_69     hey how do i put sounds to stuff?
19:41 NekoGloop       >we've had that for forever
19:41 Infinity_69     in the code i mean
19:41 Infinity_69     wait
19:41 thexyz          apparently celeron55 does not want me to host minetest.net for some reason
19:41 Infinity_69     is *modname*.*soundname*() it?
19:42 Infinity_69     e.g.
19:42 Infinity_69     raxfood.toast()
19:42 PilzAdam        Infinity_69, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:42 NekoGloop       Infinity_69: no
19:42 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:42 Infinity_69     I JUST LOOKED AT THE API PAGE
19:42 thexyz          PilzAdam: ok, fine
19:42 Infinity_69     NOW THIS?!
19:42 Infinity_69     atleast gimme the L#
19:43 jojoa1997       can anyone help me with a server
19:43 sfan5           MinetestBot, reload quotes
19:43 MinetestBot     sfan5: <module 'quotes' from 'modules_/quotes.py'> (version: 2013-01-12 19:42:39)
19:43 NekoGloop       ctrl+F
19:43 PilzAdam        Infinity_69, Ctrl + F "Sound"
19:43 thexyz          PilzAdam: now you should discuss that with darkrose
19:43 jojoa1997       i am stuck in a hole ingame
19:43 Infinity_69     what?!
19:43 jojoa1997       and cant get out
19:43 RealBadAngel    another view. im quite satisfied with how the palm trees look like now :) http://realbadangel.pl/palm_trees.png
19:43 TheZenKitteh    jojoa1997 fly or dig out. only ways im aware of
19:43 Infinity_69     +1
19:43 Infinity_69     RealBadAnger
19:44 Infinity_69     help me please?
19:44 NekoGloop       >RealBadAnger
19:44 sfan5           thexyz: you could ask him if you could host a backup database for the forum(read-only)
19:44 TheZenKitteh    wow palm trees
19:44 NekoGloop       This is english, not japanese
19:44 NekoGloop       r's and l's are not interchangable.
19:44 jojoa1997       i meant someone come on the server and give me some dirt so i can get out. there is no fly and i have no materials
19:44 Infinity_69     screw it, found the line :D
19:45 TheZenKitteh    what server you on jojoa1997
19:45 jojoa1997       adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
19:45 TheZenKitteh    only one I have interact on is vanessaes
19:45 jojoa1997       but this gives interact by default
19:45 Infinity_69     nope, still need help... :/
19:46 sfan5[iPod]     !up 94.23.33.108:30001
19:46 Minetest-tan    sfan5[iPod]: 94.23.33.108:30001 is up (0.113ms)
19:46 MinetestBot     sfan5[iPod]: 94.23.33.108:30001 is up (0.123ms)
19:46 moltenbot       Minetest server 94.23.33.108:30001:30001 DOWN
19:46 Infinity_69     how do i make a sound play near a player if a player eats an item?
19:47 PilzAdam        thexyz, should I fix the item spread in falling code? (https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/falling.lua#L99)
19:47 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: minetest/builtin/falling.lua at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:48 PilzAdam        to math.random()/2+0.25
19:48 thexyz          -
19:48 PilzAdam        yea, -
19:48 thexyz          as you wish
19:48 thexyz          I'd prefer math.random()/2-0.25
19:49 PilzAdam        thats what I meant
19:49 Infinity_69     srsly, now i understand why so many people quit the community...
19:49 Infinity_69     because most of youare assholes!
19:49 thexyz          Infinity_69: sure
19:50 thexyz          we are!
19:50 Infinity_69     PROVE ME WRONG
19:50 thexyz          or, well, I am
19:50 thexyz          Infinity_69: SHUT THE FUCK UP
19:50 NekoGloop       thexyz, Calinou, etc. are assholes.
19:50 Infinity_69     PilzAdam is, well, the biggest asshole...
19:50 thexyz          oh, fuck, I'm even not the biggest one
19:50 sfan5[iPod]     exactly right, what about me?
19:50 Infinity_69     sfan5, youre ok...
19:51 Infinity_69     but PilzAdam sucks AND blows at the same time!
19:51 PilzAdam        Infinity_69, you cant expect me answer you every question, you have to do something yourself
19:51 Infinity_69     how old are you?!
19:51 Infinity_69     i learn when somebody teaches me!
19:51 NekoGloop       old enough to know you're younger
19:51 PilzAdam        thexyz, like this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/4fc03c9680eba0579be0427449c1d8d015ea4609
19:51 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Fix spread of items in falling code ?  4fc03c9 ? PilzAdam/minetest ? GitHub
19:51 Infinity_69     i cant learn by myself!
19:52 NekoGloop       !q
19:52 MinetestBot     Run away Simba... Yes, run away and never return. -Scar(Lion King)
19:52 NekoGloop       !q
19:52 MinetestBot     Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile. -Albert Schweitzer
19:52 PilzAdam        Infinity_69, there are tuorials at the web, you can read them and learn by yourself
19:52 NekoGloop       that one.
19:52 Infinity_69     NOT MINETEST'S API YOU ASSHOLE!
19:52 Infinity_69     ok, ban me!
19:52 Infinity_69     what do i care
19:52 thexyz          PilzAdam: probably, but as for me math.random() / 2 - 0.25 is better
19:52 PilzAdam        there are 2: lua-apit.xt and the dev wiki
19:52 NekoGloop       you thought *I* was an attention whore? :P
19:53 thexyz          that is not ban
19:53 thexyz          let me show you
19:53 sfan5[iPod]     Minetest-tan: tell Nikondork hi
19:53 Infinity_69     ok, sfan, youre not ok anymore
19:53 thexyz          that's how it works
19:53 sfan5[iPod]     thexyz: that was a warning kick
19:53 thexyz          hm?
19:54 sfan5[iPod]     Minetest-tan tell thexyz test
19:54 sfan5[iPod]     wtf?
19:54 thexyz          sfan5[iPod]: i disabled this module
19:54 PilzAdam        thexyz, math.random()/2 - 0.25 ?
19:54 sfan5[iPod]     why?
19:54 thexyz          (both)
19:54 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on Minetest-tan's head
19:54 MinetestBot     meow
19:54 thexyz          sfan5[iPod]: because of timeouts
19:54 sfan5[iPod]     oh,ok
19:54 NekoGloop       :D
19:54 sfan5[iPod]     lol
19:55 thexyz          PilzAdam: " / "
19:55 thexyz          that's not important, feel free to ignore
19:55 PilzAdam        it looks weird in this case
19:55 NekoGloop       I put a kitten on Minetest-tan's head and MinetestBot answered
19:55 NekoGloop       awesome.
19:55 * sfan5[iPod]   puts a kitten on's head
19:56 * sfan5[iPod]   puts a kitten on 's head
19:56 MinetestBot     meow
19:56 sfan5[iPod]     :D
19:56 NekoGloop       lol
19:56 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
19:56 MinetestBot     meow
19:56 sfan5[iPod]     !tw https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/290134808410079232
19:56 moltenbot       sfan5[iPod]'s link: Twitter / BarackObama: Why would we spend taxpayer ...
19:56 Minetest-tan    Why would we spend taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a 1-man starship? http://OFA.BO/yfxWt3 (@BarackObama)
19:56 MinetestBot     Why would we spend taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a 1-man starship? http://OFA.BO/yfxWt3 (@BarackObama)
19:56 moltenbot       MinetestBot's link: This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
19:56 sfan5[iPod]     *facepalm*
19:57 NekoGloop       MinetestBot: we dont care.
19:57 NekoGloop       note: do not use !tw
19:57 sfan5[iPod]     note: ....
19:57 sfan5[iPod]     MinetestBot, quit
19:58 sfan5[iPod]     -.-
19:58 Minetest-tan    GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix spread of items in falling code 443bbe6a78 2013-01-12T11:55:45-08:00 http://git.io/ctAvCg
19:58 MinetestBot     GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix spread of items in falling code 443bbe6a78 2013-01-12T11:55:45-08:00 http://git.io/ctAvCg
19:58 moltenbot       MinetestBot's link: Fix spread of items in falling code ?  443bbe6 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
19:58 celeron55       what the fucking fuck
19:58 thexyz          WELCOME TO #minetest
19:58 sfan5[iPod]     sorry
19:58 thexyz          hm
19:59 celeron55       enough of these
19:59 NekoGloop       Having fun?
19:59 thexyz          celeron55: you'd better fix minetest.net
19:59 PilzAdam        It is a strange feelin when you commit and celeron55 says "wtf" :-)
19:59 OldCoder        Hi
20:00 sfan5           PilzAdam: ...and kicks all bots out of the channel
20:00 NekoGloop       bot-slaughter
20:00 OldCoder        Bots in spots are fun bit Bots are nots hots I see
20:00 OldCoder        s/bit/but/
20:01 celeron55       now we will have a vote of what single bot can stay on the channel
20:01 NekoGloop       janebot
20:01 * NekoGloop     runs
20:01 OldCoder        Wait
20:01 sfan5           NekoGloop: no
20:01 OldCoder        List the options
20:01 sfan5           options?
20:01 OldCoder        Which bots
20:01 OldCoder        How they differ t y
20:02 NekoGloop       Minetest-tan and moltenbot
20:02 sfan5           celeron55: MinetestBot was just here for testing..
20:02 OldCoder        Just two? Go on
20:02 celeron55       sfan5: this is not a place to test bots on
20:02 NekoGloop       MinetestBot was Minetest-tan with a different nick with the only purpose being to spam the channel
20:02 jojoa1997       anyone wanna join  a pvp survival server
20:02 OldCoder        jojoa1997, Hi
20:02 sfan5           NekoGloop: thats wrong
20:02 jojoa1997       hi
20:02 PilzAdam        I like Minetest-Tan because of the git messages
20:02 sfan5           celeron55: i wanted to test one command and just left the bot on
20:03 sfan5           i like Minetest-tan because !up reports the ping time
20:03 NekoGloop       let's just give minetest-tan the url-grepping ability then throw molten away.
20:03 thexyz          k, fine, instead of fixing minetest.net let's bitch about bots
20:04 NekoGloop       thexyz: yes, lets.
20:04 OldCoder        So merge the bots?
20:04 NekoGloop       merge the bots and everyone's happy.
20:04 OldCoder        Will author/s be willing to do that? Sounds sensible
20:04 NekoGloop       except iqual but he can shove it.
20:04 PilzAdam        Id like a new name for Minetest-tan though
20:04 thexyz          PilzAdam: why?
20:05 PilzAdam        because the awesomeness of Minetest-tan is not enough?
20:05 OldCoder        It's kind of long
20:05 NekoGloop       apparently he can't settle for a japanese honorific on the name
20:05 OldCoder        Testtan?
20:05 PilzAdam        Minebot or something simmilar
20:05 thexyz          minebot is too boring
20:05 sfan5           yep
20:06 OldCoder        bestbot?
20:06 PilzAdam        mt-bot?
20:06 OldCoder        No dashes
20:06 thexyz          =(
20:06 thexyz          why?
20:06 PilzAdam        WTFPLbot
20:06 OldCoder        Dashes are confusing
20:06 NekoGloop       MTbot
20:06 thexyz          in what way?
20:06 OldCoder        Survey in forum!
20:06 OldCoder        Settle name that way
20:06 NekoGloop       ... when we have forums!
20:06 OldCoder        Well, yes
20:06 thexyz          the only problem is that I host Minetest-tan
20:07 * celeron55     laughs
20:07 * TheZenKitteh  sneaks in
20:07 * NekoGloop     puts a kitten on TheZenKitteh's head
20:08 * TheZenKitteh  pets kitten then puts it on NekoGloops head
20:08 celeron55       i guess the VPS starts to be totally borked, while it was just half-borked until now
20:08 * jojoa1997     hears both saying "ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
20:08 * john_minetest starts a kitten fight.
20:08 Jordach         celeron55, let thexyz host the damn thing
20:08 Jordach         or even OldCoder
20:08 OldCoder        celeron55, Possibly reinstall?
20:08 OldCoder        Can't ATM maybe later
20:09 OldCoder        Yes I could...
20:09 OldCoder        But forums will require time
20:09 OldCoder        thexyz, how 'bout you?
20:09 OldCoder        celeron55, are you using Debian?
20:09 TheZenKitteh    .. no forums... no no I need my forums o_O... *shakes*
20:09 TheZenKitteh    j/k lol
20:09 celeron55       the suspected problem is in the virtualization software or the physical hardware of the thing
20:09 thexyz          OldCoder: apparently, he doesn't want me to host forums
20:09 celeron55       the server OS itself is fine
20:10 OldCoder        celeron55, wish to switch providers? I will PM
20:10 celeron55       i'll see if emblica.org will do something to it now that it breaks all the time
20:10 OldCoder        celeron55, speak to that provider and he wishes to cut you a deal
20:10 OldCoder        He is looking for MT business models already
20:11 jojoa1997       why is minetest.net down
20:11 OldCoder        Scroll up jojoa1997
20:11 Jordach         because it is
20:11 OldCoder        He sort of just said
20:11 TheZenKitteh    the bots got angry and ate the site
20:11 TheZenKitteh    lol
20:11 sfan5[iPod]     :D
20:12 OldCoder        Angry Bots... Successor to a well known app?
20:17 * TheZenKitteh  looks around and then hears a cricket chirp
20:18 PilzAdam        its not a cricket, its /me eating
20:19 Oblivion1500    damn, i was about to download minetest for linux or whatever guess i have to wait
20:20 TheZenKitteh    could always use the github if you can compile
20:20 PilzAdam        https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
20:20 TheZenKitteh    PilzAdam beat me to it
20:20 TheZenKitteh    lol
20:20 celeron55       the files are hosted on github currently, and google caches minetest.net: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QCav8BOhTfkJ:minetest.net/download.php+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=fi&client=firefox-a
20:21 TheZenKitteh    one thing I don't miss about windows is the inability to "fairly easily" compile latest code for fun/testing/lulz/chans
20:21 PilzAdam        compiling Minetest is easier than setting up the ppa
20:21 TheZenKitteh    indeed
20:22 TheZenKitteh    compiling minetest is easy
20:22 TheZenKitteh    lol
20:22 sfan5[iPod]     yeah
20:22 Oblivion1500    ok well thanks guys
20:22 TheZenKitteh    just takes some time depending on resources of computer
20:22 PilzAdam        -j16 on intel core i7 is fairly fast
20:23 sfan5[iPod]     it takes around 45 secs with -j5 on my sys
20:23 TheZenKitteh    Oblivion1500 you on linux right now?
20:23 Oblivion1500    yep!! no windows and using mint 14
20:25 OldCoder        Kacey, hello
20:25 Kacey           hi OC
20:25 OldCoder        Kacey, Behaving yourself today?
20:26 PilzAdam        Oblivion1500, download the source from GitHub and read the README for information how to compile
20:26 Kacey           did you hear about the #minecraft affairs?
20:26 TheZenKitteh    minecraft affairs?
20:27 OldCoder        mauvebic, Hi
20:27 OldCoder        Kacey, enough to know one kid's a** is gra** if he pushes it
20:27 mauvebic        hey
20:27 OldCoder        mauvebic, shall we update
20:27 OldCoder        your world sometime?
20:27 mauvebic        forums down again... we should start a betting pool lol
20:27 OldCoder        Of your world I wish to rhyme
20:28 mauvebic        there hasn't been much update to the world ive been working more on optimizing my older mods this week :-)
20:28 mauvebic        id show you the pictures of the new plant textures i came up with but the forums are down and idont have the link :/
20:29 mauvebic        but theyll be banana and mango plants :-)
20:29 mauvebic        *there willll
20:30 mauvebic        axed about 1/4 of the code from my core mod, FPS jumped ten points lol
20:32 kaeza           marktraceur, you here?
20:33 Obiewan1111     Website down? :/
20:34 kaeza           yup
20:35 Obiewan1111     Anyone know why?
20:36 TheZenKitteh    someone decided to press the red button
20:36 TheZenKitteh    despite being told not to
20:36 TheZenKitteh    lol j/k don't know why exactly but celeron55 knows
20:36 mauvebic        and celeron55 couldn't get through to notch on the red phone
20:36 kaeza           o hai TheLastProject
20:36 kaeza           ?
20:36 kaeza           TheZenKitteh,
20:36 kaeza           lol
20:36 kaeza           fck you tab completion
20:37 mauvebic        i wish bars had tab completion
20:37 kaeza           ...lol?
20:38 NakedFury       http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1625503-146-aurora-rubealis-v100-auroras-in-minecraft/
20:38 NakedFury       nice ambient mod
20:38 mauvebic        of course, randomly loosing/crashing tabs is just as good (early chrome lol)
20:38 TheZenKitteh    I wish life had cheat codes :P
20:38 TheLastProject  Hi kaeza :P
20:38 mauvebic        i have an ambient mod for space i can't publish lool
20:38 NakedFury       afk
20:38 kaeza           ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → A B
20:38 TheLastProject  (Yep, the autocomplete stuff ALWAYS happens. Just don't autocomplete when you typed "the" :P)
20:39 kaeza           sorry TheLastProject ^_^
20:39 ashurii         Hi room :) I was wondering... can I use one of Minetest's sound effects? The smashing glass sound? If I am allowed, how do I reference it properly under the license?
20:39 mauvebic        i disabled autocomplete when it replaced "function" with another word that led to much confusion lol
20:39 TheZenKitteh    lol aurora.. that actually would be pretty neat if done right
20:39 Obiewan1111     When the forum is back online, check out the server called "DiamondMining". :D
20:40 kaeza           \o/
20:40 OldCoder        ashurii, if it is WTFPL can do WTF you wish
20:40 OldCoder        which sound?
20:41 TheZenKitteh    I think they mean the default glass sound
20:41 ashurii         OldCoder: One of the breaking glass sounds, either one.. when you remove the blocks.. yeah :)
20:41 jojoa1997       where is the leaf decay code in default
20:41 kaeza           aren't those released as CC?
20:42 PilzAdam        ashurii, see README.txt in the default mod
20:42 ashurii         Ah.. kewl, I wonder if people will look down on me for using the WTF :P hopefully!
20:42 ashurii         okay thanks :))
20:42 kaeza           jojoa1997, leafdecay.lua
20:42 jojoa1997       XD
20:42 PilzAdam        ashurii, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/README.txt#L92
20:43 ashurii         PilzAdam: Thanks :)) will read.
20:44 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg
20:44 mauvebic        haha sweet fixed :-) https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/414
20:45 OldCoder        Hi
20:45 OldCoder        ashurii, It should be fine
20:45 marktraceur     kaeza: Yup
20:45 mauvebic        dont know who doserj is but thanks
20:45 Ririshi         Heya
20:46 ashurii         OldCoder: Okay. That's good :)
20:46 kaeza           marktraceur, the remote admin interface is in a working state, an I test here?
20:46 ashurii         Need to sign up.. >.< more usernames :/
20:46 Ririshi         Can someone explain me how to install a texture pack? I put the textures in the textures\all folder, but they don't show up when playing..
20:46 marktraceur     kaeza: Noooo. Test somewhere else, like #minetest-admin-interface
20:47 kaeza           can*
20:47 kaeza           marktraceur, ok → ##mt-irc-mod
20:48 kaeza           now added ban/unban
20:48 OldCoder
20:49 TheZenKitteh    Ririshi, what's the folder structure?
20:49 TheZenKitteh    textures/all/texturename.png ?
20:49 ashurii         Is minetest.net down at the moment or is my ISP being silly?
20:49 thexyz          it is down
20:49 Ririshi         Thanks for responding :D Yes, it's textures/all/texturename.png indeed
20:50 TheZenKitteh    then Ririshi are the textures named the same as textures they are meant to replace?
20:50 jojoa1997       what is the difference between (leafdecay=3) and (leafdecay=1)
20:50 Ririshi         TheZenKitteh: I guess.. I got a WIP texturepack from the texturepack page.
20:51 Ririshi         Do I need anything else but the textures?
20:51 TheZenKitteh    have to make sure the textures are properly named or they won't show
20:51 Ririshi         Never modded minetest in any way until now xd
20:51 TheZenKitteh    also if pack is missing some textures then of course those won't be modded
20:53 Ririshi         book bookshelf brick chest_front chest_side chest_top clay clay_brick cobble crack funace_front furnace_side glass grass grass_footsteps grass_side gravel item_fence lump_of_clay lump_of_coal lump_of_iron mineral_coal mineral_iron mossycobble mud sand sign sign_back sign_wall stone torch torch_on_ceiling torch_on_floor tree tree_top water wood is what i have now
20:53 jojoa1997       can someone give me an abm that would work symiliar to leafdecay. i want to make it where if a node is not surrpounded on 4 sides then it will remove itself
20:53 Ririshi         sorry for big msg xd
20:53 ashurii         thexyz: Thanks :)
20:54 Ririshi         if node.sideblock = true then node.remove xD
20:54 jojoa1997       thanks
20:54 Ririshi         NO NO IM KIDDIN
20:54 jojoa1997       ._.
20:54 Ririshi         something like that should work.. but im bad at lua
20:54 Ririshi         ^-^
20:55 TheZenKitteh    ririshi you need to add default_ before those
20:55 TheZenKitteh    like default_sand.png
20:55 TheZenKitteh    default_sign_wall.png
20:55 TheZenKitteh    etc
20:55 Ririshi         jojoa1997: I've modded some new blocks but those are on my old pc.. and i haven't worked with newer versions of minetest than 0.3.x i guess.. i'll try to get some modding into my brains again ;p
20:56 Ririshi         TheZenKitteh: ain't there a cmd command to put a prefix before a file name?
20:56 ashurii         So, what are the specifics for referencing this sound file :/ ? can I just say "cmusounddesign - Creative Commons -  http://www.freesound.org/people/cmusounddesign/sounds/71947/" ?
20:56 jojoa1997       Ririshi did that code work with the old version
20:57 TheZenKitteh    I can't remember when naming of textures changed but it was somewhere in 0.4
20:57 TheZenKitteh    so if you use 0.3 no renaming needed I suspect
20:57 TheZenKitteh    but for 0.4 and beyond need to be default_ in front of texture names that are for the default mod
20:57 Ririshi         jojoa1997: that code is more VB or something.. I didn't try it..
20:57 TheZenKitteh    bucket_ before the name of textures to replace say the bucket mods
20:57 jojoa1997       well can anyone else help
20:57 Ririshi         TheZenKitteh: okay.. I'll have to put everything in front of it then >.<
20:58 TheZenKitteh    as for a shortcut unsure. linux or windows?
20:58 ashurii         I ask because the CC says to attribute according to author's wishes.. but I can't find any..
20:58 OldCoder        ashurii, If there are no wishes
20:58 OldCoder        For fishes or dishes
20:59 OldCoder        The wishes are BY-SA as a rule... sometimes NC too
20:59 OldCoder        Is this CC or WTF?
20:59 ashurii         ahh.. im a little confused, sorry.. It is CC
20:59 ashurii         from freesound.org.
21:00 mauvebic        NC is better if youre not 100% sure of the origins of all your media (safety)
21:00 TheZenKitteh    ririshi you on windows or linux?
21:00 ashurii         What is NC? Is there an idiot's guide explaining all these acronyms and the terminology in one place?
21:01 OldCoder        ashurii, http://creativecommons.org/
21:01 mauvebic        is non commercial
21:01 OldCoder        And NC ^
21:01 OldCoder        BY means attribution
21:01 Ririshi         TheZenKitteh: windows atm.
21:01 OldCoder        ND means no derivatives
21:01 OldCoder        etc.
21:01 OldCoder        It is fine... take a look these are good licenses
21:01 ashurii         ah, excellent.. Thanks :)
21:01 TheZenKitteh    ririshi xp by any chance?
21:02 ashurii         Does it make sense for me to say NC and CC ?
21:02 kaeza           forums still down :/
21:02 mauvebic        if you use textures or sounds with no clear licensing, your alot safer using a noncommercial license than taking the chance someone will make a product out of it and incur damages for you and him/her
21:02 ashurii         Oh I see.
21:02 mauvebic        if you made them all yourself then you got nothing at all to worry about and any license will do
21:03 TheZenKitteh    ririshi since im not on windows all I can do is give a link to help you find a batch renamer.. otherwise you have to manually do it http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-rename-utility.htm#Quick_Selection_Guide
21:03 TheZenKitteh    im sure there's also others
21:04 ashurii         Yeah sure.. I had a bottle up here.. getting ready to smash but decided better of it :P ..so I will go NC with the persons username and the URL.
21:04 Ririshi         I'll make myself a batch script :D
21:04 Ririshi         TheZenKitteh: I've got Ubuntu, Win7 and WinXP on here :D
21:05 jojoa1997       I NEED MINETEST FORUM please fix it
21:05 TheZenKitteh    jojoa1997 you can use google cache if you have the post url you need
21:05 TheZenKitteh    go to google and search for cache:http://urlofposthere
21:05 TheZenKitteh    otherwise have to wait
21:06 jojoa1997       iyeah but i mean for everyone to converse and it is jan. 3 not jan. 11
21:11 NekoGloop       um
21:11 NekoGloop       it's jan. 12
21:12 TheZenKitteh    no its december 22 2025
21:12 TheZenKitteh    o wait that was before I went back in time
21:12 TheZenKitteh    nvm
21:12 TheZenKitteh    lol
21:12 Ririshi         umadbro? it's 12 jan 1997
21:12 Ririshi         jan 12 ok ko
21:12 Ririshi         ok*
21:12 Ririshi         i'm not english..
21:16 Infinity_69     hi
21:16 Infinity_69     so, TheXYZ, i see you unbanned me, like you supposed to...
21:16 Infinity_69     +1
21:16 celeron55       re. http://www.freesound.org/people/cmusounddesign/sounds/71947/
21:17 Infinity_69     celeron55
21:17 celeron55       it says "This work is licensed under the Attribution License."
21:17 Infinity_69     can you please help me?
21:17 celeron55       the attribution license means that one is free to do anything with the thing being licensed, as long as attribution is given
21:17 celeron55       no share-alike, no non-commercial
21:18 Infinity_69     kaeza
21:18 Infinity_69     oh...
21:18 Infinity_69     she quit...
21:19 Infinity_69     Celeron55
21:21 Infinity_69_    ok im back:)
21:21 Infinity_69_    so can somebody help me?
21:22 jojoa1997       what you need help with
21:22 Ririshi         with what?
21:22 Infinity_69_    http://pastebin.com/sNrLYRXS
21:22 Infinity_69_    look at it
21:22 Infinity_69_    i dont understand what/where the error is
21:23 jojoa1997       add a comma on line 52 like this
21:24 jojoa1997       from this
21:24 ashurii         Thanks everyone for your help, much appreciated :)
21:24 jojoa1997       {'bucket:bucket_water', 'raxplants:flour'}
21:24 jojoa1997       to this
21:24 jojoa1997       {'bucket:bucket_water', 'raxplants:flour'},
21:24 Infinity_69_    oh
21:24 Ririshi         why would you jojoa?
21:24 Infinity_69_    nothing :/
21:25 Ririshi         shouldn't recipe be in ()?
21:25 jojoa1997       Ririshi why would i do what?
21:25 Ririshi         putting a comma after that..
21:26 jojoa1997       no
21:26 jojoa1997       because that is how i did my working recipe
21:26 jojoa1997       anyone wanna try my mod https://github.com/jojoa1997/spleef_arena
21:28 Ririshi         Infinity_69 putting a comma after it did help?
21:29 Infinity_69     nope
21:29 Infinity_69     all i understood was, that there was a '{' unclosed :/
21:29 jojoa1997       one sec
21:29 Infinity_69     but it wasnt
21:29 Ririshi         yeah..
21:31 jojoa1997       look at lines 1542-1587 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
21:31 Infinity_69     why didnt you link the lines you idiot?
21:31 ashurii         celeron55: Just caught your message regarding attribution license.. is this along the same lines as ( CC BY-?? 3.0 ) .. or would I need to do something else :/ ?
21:32 jojoa1997       Infinity_69 i dont know how to
21:32 jojoa1997       join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
21:32 jojoa1997       ashurii what is you problem
21:33 Infinity_67     im back -.-
21:33 marktraceur     Infinity_67: Chill
21:33 ashurii         jojoa1997: I am not sure how to reference the file I am going to use.. I have it under CC BY_NC 3.0 .. which is wrong I think as the file is has an attribution license perhaps..
21:34 Infinity_67     i got the "He's Dead, Jim" message...
21:34 jojoa1997       is it a sound file
21:34 ashurii         jojoa1997: I just need to add a comment giving the right acknowledgment :/
21:34 ashurii         Yhea
21:34 Infinity_67     jojoa
21:34 Infinity_67     you found anything helpful?
21:34 ashurii         Yes, it is :)
21:34 Infinity_67     marktraceur
21:34 Infinity_67     http://pastebin.com/sNrLYRXS
21:35 Infinity_67     please take a look
21:35 Infinity_67     and please help me
21:35 jojoa1997       ashurii i cant help you there unless you rerecord the sound and add some litle noise at the end maybe
21:35 jojoa1997       Infinity_69 please paste the code without the error
21:36 Infinity_67     there is a line...
21:36 ashurii         ah,.. lol, shall I just play it through the speakers and record it again >.<
21:36 Infinity_67     === Code ===
21:36 jojoa1997       kaeza join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
21:36 Infinity_67     between those lines is the WHOLE code
21:36 marktraceur     Infinity_67: Line 50, forgot a comma
21:36 jojoa1997       i knew is was a comma
21:38 Infinity_RAGE   hi
21:38 Ririshi         stupid commas xD
21:38 Ririshi         Hello
21:38 Ririshi         xd
21:38 Infinity_69     what?!
21:38 Infinity_69     i keep getting an invite to he's death >:o
21:39 jojoa1997       someone join adress:94.23.33.108 port:30001
21:39 Infinity_69     0.4.4 / 0.4.3?
21:39 jojoa1997       0.4.4
21:40 Infinity_69     nope, not going there :/
21:40 jojoa1997       why
21:40 Infinity_69     go to a 0.4.3 server, then
21:40 Infinity_69     i use Doku Test that only runs on 0.4.3
21:40 Infinity_69     :/
21:40 Infinity_69     :D
21:40 jojoa1997       then someone else join
21:40 Infinity_69     jojoa, go get 0.4.3 and lets play :D
21:40 jojoa1997       i need to fight someone and defend my house
21:41 Infinity_69     lets make a village
21:41 ashurii         I figured it out.. attribution license = CC BY 3.0 ... I hope :P .. new to all this.. either way I have to go... maybe I will just get in legal trouble at some point >.< thanks everyone.
21:44 Kacey           doku test is a texture pack right?
21:45 Kacey           if so, it should work on any version
21:47 jojoa1997       Kacey come join the server
21:53 Ririshi         Im going to work on a texture pack for minetest :D
21:53 jojoa1997       how far down do you have to go till you find mese
21:53 Ririshi         is there a list with textures?
21:53 Ririshi         at least -64 i think jojoa1997
21:57 Kacey           i dont have 0.4.3
21:58 Kacey           but i do have massive  lag
22:01 kaeza           jojoa1997, Y U NO use latest server???
22:02 jojoa1997       i have latest thexyz build. what do you mean by server
22:03 kaeza           jojoa1997, aren't you the server owner?
22:03 jojoa1997       no
22:04 kaeza           ok
22:04 Ririshi         Is it possible to add a gui as a mod?
22:04 kaeza           Ririshi, in a way, yes
22:04 jojoa1997       i think
22:04 Ririshi         could someone help me building a mod to assign a letter to choose the block you're pointing at if it's in your inventory bar?
22:04 Ririshi         "pick block" in minecraft
22:05 kaeza           Ririshi, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L660
22:05 Kacey           im making a sheep out of wool
22:05 Ririshi         or i mean a key, not a letter
22:05 jojoa1997       like how you press 'I' for inventory
22:06 kaeza           you mean keybindings?
22:06 Ririshi         yeah
22:06 kaeza           nope
22:06 Kacey           haha his feet lokk awesome
22:06 kaeza           not yet
22:06 Ririshi         too bad..
22:06 Kacey           look, even
22:07 Ririshi         it would be awesome :D
22:07 Ririshi         Is there a way to get the block you're holding?
22:07 kaeza           yes
22:07 jojoa1997       it is possible if you figure out how inventory opens with 'I'
22:07 Ririshi         sorry i mean looking at -.-
22:08 jojoa1997       what do you want to do in the mod
22:08 kaeza           yes
22:08 Ririshi         jojoa1997 isn't that hardcoded in C#? or C++ whatever it uses xD
22:08 jojoa1997       i dont know
22:08 NakedFury       cant do that yet
22:08 jojoa1997       i mean what does inventory plus and unified inventory do
22:09 NakedFury       we cant assign keys to actions yet. like if players presses R then do this
22:09 NakedFury       unless you code c++ and can add it
22:09 Ririshi         yeah..
22:09 Ririshi         so you'd have to decompile it.. or smth
22:09 Ririshi         or just take the source xD
22:10 Ririshi         and add the function
22:10 Ririshi         I don't code seriously..
22:10 Ririshi         too bad i'm not a pro lol
22:11 jojoa1997       do hearts regenerate them selves
22:11 Kacey           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5Sk4QNCxM
22:11 NekoGloop       jojoa1997: no
22:11 jojoa1997       they should cant find any apples and have 4 hearts
22:13 jojoa1997       where is the ore generation in default
22:13 jojoa1997       or where is it set
22:13 TheZenKitteh    jojoa1997 that's why its important to snag every apple you see when you see them and before you need them. on the server I play I always have at least 50 apples. if it dips below that I hunt for more. also have bananas
22:14 jojoa1997       if i plant sapling then they grow right
22:14 TheZenKitteh    then again I also have a banana plantation which helps
22:14 TheZenKitteh    too bad the banana trees look almost like apple trees
22:15 TheZenKitteh    oh and I can't remember who was doing palm trees but I suggest adding coconuts to them
22:15 TheZenKitteh    lol
22:16 jojoa1997       realbadangel was and vanessae will add them to moretrees soon too
22:17 NekoGloop       TheZenKitteh: there are.
22:18 sema4           forums down again??
22:18 NekoGloop       they never came back up from like 5 hours ago
22:19 NakedFury       RealBadAngel created the tre system and he and vanessa are doing a MoreTrees mod. you can make trees with the mod and give them to vanessa too
22:19 sema4           huh.
22:21 Kacey           soo much white wool...
22:23 Kacey           would his feet look better black or brown?
22:23 TheZenKitteh    I hope the forum doesn't lose all its posts and userdata. that would suck hard
22:24 jojoa1997       whos feet
22:24 Kacey           my sheep i am making
22:24 meldrian        the forum is down, isn'T it?
22:24 NakedFury       yes
22:24 meldrian        ah ok. thx
22:24 jojoa1997       Naked is furious of that
22:25 Kacey           !ping minetest.net/forum
22:25 NekoGloop       lol
22:25 TheZenKitteh    bots not here
22:25 Kacey           haha no bots
22:25 TheZenKitteh    celeron threw a fit and banned them
22:25 jojoa1997       i think that the bots were removed
22:25 TheZenKitteh    lol
22:25 Kacey           haha
22:25 TheZenKitteh    basically saying there needs to be only one bot
22:25 Kacey           Kaceybot!!!!
22:27 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY
22:28 TheZenKitteh    (02:58:26 PM) celeron55: what the fucking fuck
22:28 TheZenKitteh    (02:58:37 PM) mode (+o celeron55) by ChanServ
22:28 TheZenKitteh    (02:58:37 PM) thexyz: WELCOME TO #minetest
22:28 TheZenKitteh    (02:58:37 PM) sfan5[iPod]: sorry
22:28 TheZenKitteh    (02:58:41 PM) mode (+b *!*Minetest-@minetest.ru) by celeron55
22:28 TheZenKitteh    lol
22:29 NekoGloop       Adding "what the fucking fuck" to quotes list
22:29 jojoa1997       since forum is down how many nodes the the protector mod protect
22:29 NekoGloop       jojoa1997: 8 in all directions IIRC
22:29 jojoa1997       what is IIRC
22:29 NekoGloop       "If I Recall Correctly"
22:30 * jojoa1997     lightbulb!
22:30 NekoGloop       You need a new one!
22:30 * jojoa1997     screw screw screw CLICK
22:30 NekoGloop       crack
22:31 NakedFury       IIRNc: If I remember incorrectly
22:31 * jojoa1997     puts a lava_source on NekoGloop's head
22:31 NakedFury       is it recall? I always thought remember
22:32 meldrian        damn, i were about to check some parts of the mod-section ... :(
22:33 NekoGloop       NakedFury: it's either/or
22:34 NakedFury       http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/listing.php?id=mod
22:34 NakedFury       meldrian check tha
22:34 NakedFury       t
22:34 jojoa1997       come join minetest.org 30010 and there will be a spleef arena soon
22:34 jojoa1997       winner will get 6 diamonds
22:35 NekoGloop       >diamonds
22:35 NekoGloop       what is this minecraft
22:35 jojoa1997       no because if you do this
22:35 jojoa1997       d=diamond s=steel
22:35 jojoa1997       x=nothing
22:35 jojoa1997       xsx
22:35 jojoa1997       xdx
22:35 jojoa1997       xsx
22:36 NekoGloop       What is this, minecraft?
22:36 NekoGloop       we aint got no diamonds ;-)
22:36 Kacey           it should be a tower of pimps
22:36 jojoa1997       fine then you get something e;se
22:38 jojoa1997       will you join
22:38 NekoGloop       nope ;-)
22:38 jojoa1997       why
22:39 jojoa1997       You will get 5 mese blocks if you win
22:39 NekoGloop       dont want to ;-)
22:39 * jojoa1997     makes NekoGloop join by using mind control
22:40 NakedFury       you get limited edition cow dung in a cup
22:40 NekoGloop       It failed!
22:40 Kacey           haha my sheep has an anus
22:40 jojoa1997       you will become admin
22:40 jojoa1997       just kidding
22:41 jojoa1997       that is also up to ocr and markv
22:45 Kacey           IT WORKS!!!!!!1!!!!2!!!one!!!
22:46 jojoa1997       how do i use the last command when i press f10
22:51 Kacey           it worked...
22:55 celeron55       TheZenKitteh: the data is perfectly intact; it's just that the server has forgotten how to execute code without completely jamming at random times
23:03 Kacey           DAMNIT!!!!!!
23:04 Kacey           TURN OFF DAMNIT!!!!
23:05 NekoGloop       NO
23:05 NekoGloop       NEVERRRRRRR
23:06 Kacey           thats it im through trying with the damn shit
23:10 OldCoder        Kacey what is failing?
23:10 OldCoder        Good luck don't give up until you see the whites of their eggs and bacon
23:10 * OldCoder      is going to go eat now
23:10 OldCoder        o/
23:11 Kacey           my mesecons door
23:12 Zeg9            Hi.
23:16 kaeza           forums still down?
23:16 kaeza           bummer
23:17 Kacey           kaeza im making a giant sheep ^_^
23:17 kaeza           cool
23:17 kaeza           local server?
23:17 Kacey           ya
23:17 Kacey           singleplayer
23:18 Kacey           now to work on the tail...
23:23 kaeza           I think there's something wrong with right-click
23:24 kaeza           when I hold the RMB pointing at air, and then release it, it acts as if I rightclicked when I point at a node again
23:25 kaeza           anyone else experiencing this issue?
23:26 jojoa1997       im back \o/ this place just got cool
23:27 Kacey           he does not have much of a neck...
23:28 jojoa1997       kacey show me a pic of your sheep
23:28 Kacey           when its done k?
23:33 sema4           hey does minetest client have a command history
23:33 sema4           ?
23:34 jojoa1997       you mean ingame(f10)
23:34 Ririshi         f10 you mean?
23:34 Ririshi         or check the command prompt that opens..
23:36 sema4           yeah f10
23:36 jojoa1997       idk but it would be nice to press the up button and have the last command come up again
23:36 sema4           replace commands in worldedit can be very long :>
23:36 sema4           yes definitely
23:37 jojoa1997       i am usoing world edit now lol
23:37 sema4           i have saved 100s of man hours with that mod
23:37 Kacey           http://ompldr.org/vaDF1NQ/screenshot_824… my sheep
23:37 jojoa1997       O.O
23:38 jojoa1997       show us the back
23:38 sema4           lol
23:38 Kacey           not much, just a little tail
23:38 Kacey           do you like it?
23:39 PilzAdam        http://www.zimg.eu/i/3860861985 <- my flat mapgen
23:39 jojoa1997       yes but add some light gray blocks to break up the uniformity
23:39 PilzAdam        nice to see the perlin noise of trees
23:39 Kacey           later
23:39 Kacey           PilzAdam, how do i create flat mapgen?
23:39 jojoa1997       so that is how perlin noise works
23:40 PilzAdam        Kacey, I made a fork of MT and deleted the whole old mapgen and added some super flat one
23:41 Kacey           ooh so if i forked minetest_game and messed with the mapgen.lua it wold work?
23:41 PilzAdam        the forum is down so I cant point you to the topic with win build, but heres the source: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/flat
23:41 PilzAdam        no, you need to edit the core code
23:41 Kacey           i use linux
23:41 PilzAdam        then compile the source
23:42 PilzAdam        have you compiled Minetest before?
23:42 Kacey           last time i edited the core code, i was swimming through land
23:42 jojoa1997       sema4: at least with repeatedly retyping commands you will remember them
23:43 sema4           i suppose
23:44 PilzAdam        Kacey, you gonna try my branch?
23:44 Kacey           maybe
23:44 Ririshi         I'm off
23:44 Ririshi         cyahz!
23:44 jojoa1997       sema4: i still want a command history
23:45 NakedFury       pressing up or down on chat to bring past or present chat by you would be 100% appreciated
23:45 kizeren         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp90stM2Z8
23:45 NekoGloop       cant you already do that
23:46 NekoGloop       i coulda swore i just did that like yesterday
23:48 sema4           i tried all combinations of up/down/pgup/pgdn with shift,alt,ctrl.. nothing seemed to work
23:49 NakedFury       doesnt work
23:49 sema4           another Q:  is there an elevator mod?
23:49 sema4           i thought i read about one somewhere
23:49 sema4           want to not use 'watervators' unless i have to :>
23:50 FreeFull        I recall being on a server and there being a building with an elevator, where it worked by punching signs
23:51 jojoa1997       make a 2*2*X pillar X=height
23:51 jojoa1997       then dig one layer like this
23:51 jojoa1997       c=block a=air
23:51 jojoa1997       CA
23:51 jojoa1997       AC
23:51 jojoa1997       CA
23:51 jojoa1997       AC
23:51 jojoa1997       CA
23:51 jojoa1997       AC
23:51 jojoa1997       CA
23:51 jojoa1997       then you walk up against it and hold
23:52 jojoa1997       shift+space
23:52 jojoa1997       this is a helphul glitch
23:53 sema4           oh i saw one of those on redcrab's server and couldn't figure out how to ascend :)
23:55 NakedFury       can pistons move you now?
23:55 Kacey           no
23:55 jojoa1997       ?
23:56 Kacey           pistons cant move you
23:56 NakedFury       then how do you do an elevator with them?
23:56 Kacey           no idea
23:56 Kacey           perhaps
23:56 Kacey           hang on
23:57 jojoa1997       look up minecraft piston elevator
23:57 NakedFury       already tried to do it
23:57 NakedFury       would not move me
23:57 jojoa1997       you jump also
23:57 Kacey           i watched a video on a cool one
23:57 Kacey           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReyFfSDkKKc this on
23:58 Kacey           one, even
23:58 Kacey           anyone want to test to see if that works?